1 00:00:01,700 --> 00:00:02,967 Where does it hurt the worst? 2 00:00:02,967 --> 00:00:05,000 [narrator] Previously on Little People, Big World. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Tori had called me and said, uh, "This is an emergency." 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,333 Do you feel nauseous? 5 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:14,200 [Tori] I have never seen Zach in that much pain. 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,333 He started crying and saying, "I'm dying." 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,367 I think that we have been sitting on a knife's edge. 8 00:00:23,367 --> 00:00:24,467 And we just didn't know it. 9 00:00:27,467 --> 00:00:28,800 There was something going on. 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,166 Well, he's apparently doing good. 11 00:00:31,166 --> 00:00:33,000 I'm kind of giving him space to heal, now. 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,000 You know, like, I got up there for birthdays 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,367 but, um, they don't come to the farm. 14 00:00:39,367 --> 00:00:41,533 I think they just want space, still. 15 00:00:42,867 --> 00:00:46,500 I never pictured the house that I raised my kids in for the last 30 years 16 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:48,000 to be a short term rental. 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,567 I just see it as very sad. 18 00:00:49,567 --> 00:00:52,867 When it comes to my dad, I think he really screwed over the farm, 19 00:00:52,867 --> 00:00:54,667 everything that the family built. 20 00:00:54,667 --> 00:00:55,900 When he's around, you know, hey. 21 00:00:55,900 --> 00:00:57,567 He's grandpa to the kids and everything, 22 00:00:57,567 --> 00:01:00,667 but that doesn't change that I think he screwed over the family. 23 00:01:00,667 --> 00:01:02,600 Like, Tori and me are taking a break. 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,533 We're definitely separating ourselves from our family more. 25 00:01:19,767 --> 00:01:22,000 [Tori] Oh my gosh, are you going to do the laundry? 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,400 -Thank you so much. -No, this is what you're doing. 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,767 Dad's going to do the laundry. 28 00:01:25,767 --> 00:01:27,233 I'm just bringing it here for you. 29 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:28,367 Wow. 30 00:01:30,100 --> 00:01:31,500 Don't throw it. 31 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:34,734 [Zach] Hey, hey, hey. I told you this was going to get out of hand. 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,066 [screaming] 33 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:42,300 Every time I play or roughhouse with the kids, 34 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:46,066 I seem to get in trouble for doing it but then Zach can do it. 35 00:01:47,767 --> 00:01:50,066 -[laughing] -Ow! 36 00:01:50,567 --> 00:01:53,166 That one... [laughing] 37 00:01:53,166 --> 00:01:56,967 That one went so fast I didn't even see it. [laughs] 38 00:01:56,967 --> 00:02:00,667 You guys get all crazy and then he doesn't know how to calm down 39 00:02:00,667 --> 00:02:04,967 and then you yell at him and then the whole emotional uproar. 40 00:02:06,367 --> 00:02:09,166 Here, take it. [laughs] 41 00:02:14,667 --> 00:02:16,133 Okay. Mom's done. 42 00:02:16,967 --> 00:02:18,567 Before I get in trouble. 43 00:02:18,567 --> 00:02:21,667 Testosterone's raging through that kid's body. 44 00:02:21,667 --> 00:02:23,867 That's why I say simmer down. I see it. 45 00:02:23,867 --> 00:02:26,367 Like, he's, like, raging. 46 00:02:26,367 --> 00:02:28,367 I think Si-Si is ready for bed. 47 00:02:28,367 --> 00:02:30,133 [Zach] I'll put him down toward you. 48 00:02:31,166 --> 00:02:33,500 We're going to put the cute little baby to bed. 49 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:36,066 [Zach] It's been one month since my shunt surgery. 50 00:02:36,066 --> 00:02:37,767 I don't have any restrictions, or-- 51 00:02:37,767 --> 00:02:40,867 You were more restricted than I was after a C-section, though. 52 00:02:40,867 --> 00:02:43,166 Like, the things that you couldn't do. 53 00:02:43,166 --> 00:02:45,133 Yeah, 'cause they had to take care of me. 54 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:50,867 About two weeks after my surgery, I got my staples out. 55 00:02:50,867 --> 00:02:52,300 [Tori] Let me see. 56 00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:54,767 -Ooh. A little bit of dandruff. -Can you see holes? 57 00:02:55,767 --> 00:02:56,834 Can you see the holes? 58 00:02:58,166 --> 00:03:00,266 Wait, they kept your staples? 59 00:03:00,266 --> 00:03:02,300 And Jackson's touching them? 60 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:05,567 Yeah, I told the guy, I was like, I'm just going to breathe really hard. 61 00:03:05,567 --> 00:03:06,567 Don't mind me. 62 00:03:06,567 --> 00:03:09,166 And then, like, the first one, I'm like [breathes] 63 00:03:09,166 --> 00:03:10,467 or whatever I was doing 64 00:03:10,467 --> 00:03:11,567 and he's like, are you okay? 65 00:03:11,567 --> 00:03:13,166 I'm like, yep. I told you, I'm fine. 66 00:03:13,166 --> 00:03:14,767 -Just do it. -Just do it. 67 00:03:14,767 --> 00:03:16,567 Did they put any, like, numbing cream 68 00:03:16,567 --> 00:03:19,233 or was it just like balls to the wall, they just did it? 69 00:03:20,467 --> 00:03:21,767 -Balls to the wall. -Ew. 70 00:03:22,767 --> 00:03:24,266 Stick your hand in 71 00:03:24,266 --> 00:03:25,634 and then pull it out. 72 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,767 Like that. 73 00:03:28,767 --> 00:03:30,634 Okay, now go. Fold it. 74 00:03:31,266 --> 00:03:33,166 Man, folding laundry is the worst. 75 00:03:33,967 --> 00:03:36,233 You folded two articles of clothing. 76 00:03:36,567 --> 00:03:37,567 I know. 77 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:40,767 Do you have any appreciation for me 78 00:03:40,767 --> 00:03:43,000 that I do this every day of my life? 79 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,867 I, but, yeah, I do. 80 00:03:44,867 --> 00:03:46,367 -[Tori] But what? -I have a lot of appreciation. 81 00:03:46,367 --> 00:03:48,233 -[Tori] But what? -I do. It's simply the worst. 82 00:03:49,166 --> 00:03:50,767 It's simply the worst 83 00:03:50,767 --> 00:03:52,767 and I can never be on top of it. 84 00:03:52,767 --> 00:03:54,467 It's never ending. 85 00:03:54,467 --> 00:03:55,900 Life's definitely been busy. 86 00:03:55,900 --> 00:03:58,967 Three kids and a husband recovering from surgery. 87 00:03:58,967 --> 00:04:00,333 Change a couple more diapers. 88 00:04:01,066 --> 00:04:02,266 Make a couple more meals. 89 00:04:02,266 --> 00:04:04,433 -She had to play a little bit more defense. -Yeah. 90 00:04:05,166 --> 00:04:06,767 Look at Lilah trying to help. 91 00:04:06,767 --> 00:04:09,900 Lilah's so helpful compared to the rest of you knuckleheads. 92 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:12,400 When I can't pass the kids off to go take a shower, 93 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,266 I definitely notice it a little bit more. 94 00:04:14,266 --> 00:04:17,066 I feel like it's an emotional thing rather than a physical burden. 95 00:04:17,700 --> 00:04:18,867 Totally. 96 00:04:18,867 --> 00:04:21,166 I have an appointment coming up 97 00:04:21,166 --> 00:04:24,567 and I think it ends this whole shunt situation. 98 00:04:24,567 --> 00:04:25,467 [Zach] I don't think I've had any-- 99 00:04:25,467 --> 00:04:26,900 Well, it's never going to be done with, 100 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:30,467 so don't get in that mindset when your brain explodes again. 101 00:04:30,467 --> 00:04:32,166 Honestly, I think I'm just grateful too 102 00:04:32,166 --> 00:04:34,900 that I think we finally have answers 103 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:37,400 of what's been going on for the last 10 years 104 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,700 and hoping that we don't have to deal with it for another 10 years 105 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:45,900 and yeah. We're happy to have him home. 106 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:49,000 How are you doing since this whole scenario? 107 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,100 Good. 108 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:51,934 Like I'm the only one who's kept it together. 109 00:04:53,767 --> 00:04:55,867 You have. 110 00:04:55,867 --> 00:04:58,900 You did good. [laughs] 111 00:04:58,900 --> 00:05:00,867 [Zach] Some wives would have freaked out 112 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,233 and had mental breakdowns. 113 00:05:03,767 --> 00:05:05,300 You kept it together. 114 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:08,867 Tori handles everything that comes with me very well. 115 00:05:08,867 --> 00:05:09,867 [laughs] 116 00:05:09,867 --> 00:05:12,100 And she supports me awesome. 117 00:05:12,100 --> 00:05:13,767 And yeah, I put her through a lot. 118 00:05:13,767 --> 00:05:14,667 [laughs] 119 00:05:14,667 --> 00:05:16,567 And she's still here, so... 120 00:05:16,567 --> 00:05:18,767 Well, imagine if you had a wife that, like 121 00:05:18,767 --> 00:05:20,467 -couldn't deal with this. -Oh, God help me. 122 00:05:20,467 --> 00:05:24,266 Imagine if you had a wife that, like, any little thing happened, they completely-- 123 00:05:24,266 --> 00:05:26,767 Oh, yeah. It would have been over. 124 00:05:26,767 --> 00:05:29,200 She's kind of like the rock. [laughs] 125 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,533 I'm like the sandstone. Just keep breaking. [laughs] 126 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:37,100 Like, I was definitely nervous in the hospital. 127 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:40,567 Hopefully this thing stays together for another 15 years. 128 00:05:40,567 --> 00:05:42,734 I hope you stay together for another 15 years. 129 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,767 I'm still in, like, you know, post-traumatic stress 130 00:05:46,767 --> 00:05:49,300 from, like, the pain and, like, the headaches 131 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:52,200 and every time my head aches or something, 132 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,767 you know, oh, is this going to lead up to something worse? 133 00:05:55,767 --> 00:05:59,300 So that might take a while to get out of that. 134 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:01,200 [Zach] Well, I'm still here, you're still here. 135 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,467 -Thank you. -Yeah. 136 00:06:02,467 --> 00:06:03,500 For being here. 137 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:07,166 Now the crisis is over, we can start living life. 138 00:06:07,166 --> 00:06:09,934 -Um, do you want to tackle this bucket now? -Oh, yeah. 139 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:23,967 Well, you have been a busy bee. 140 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,700 Is this the fireplace? 141 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:30,867 -That's one possibility. -Oh, okay. 142 00:06:30,867 --> 00:06:34,767 -On your wish, we added-- -Thank you. 143 00:06:34,767 --> 00:06:36,100 Isn't that better? 144 00:06:36,100 --> 00:06:39,500 I think it is, yeah. Finn certainly liked it better. 145 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:42,100 -Finn always likes what I say. -Yeah. 146 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:43,367 'Cause he's an artiste. 147 00:06:43,367 --> 00:06:46,100 Early next week, Karen is going to be heading out of town 148 00:06:46,100 --> 00:06:50,567 so I'm going to give her one last chance to influence the plans 149 00:06:50,567 --> 00:06:53,767 and the decisions and a lot of the choices that I'm making 150 00:06:53,767 --> 00:06:57,400 and I'm sure there'll be a million other things that come up while she's gone. 151 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,367 If this shelf came to the top of this, it was like a border. 152 00:07:02,367 --> 00:07:03,367 Okay. 153 00:07:03,367 --> 00:07:05,567 And then this lined up with that. 154 00:07:05,567 --> 00:07:07,166 Yeah, you like it better. 155 00:07:07,166 --> 00:07:08,166 Yeah. 156 00:07:08,166 --> 00:07:10,967 We've engaged with a, you know, designer 157 00:07:10,967 --> 00:07:14,066 to help us, uh, work out the details of the house. 158 00:07:14,066 --> 00:07:18,000 She's really just helping us narrow down this or that. 159 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 We're kind of coming in with ideas 160 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,066 and then she's like, oh, this would be great and it's all overwhelming 161 00:07:24,066 --> 00:07:26,667 and so she's sort of our sounding board. 162 00:07:26,667 --> 00:07:28,867 Are you going to be okay when you're gone 163 00:07:28,867 --> 00:07:31,100 with me making all these decisions? 164 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:33,200 I'm going to have to be. [laughs] 165 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,000 Okay. All right. 166 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,567 -Just call me first. -All right. 167 00:07:37,567 --> 00:07:40,800 -I want this to be our house. -Well, I appreciate that. 168 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,166 But it is still always going to be your house 169 00:07:44,166 --> 00:07:45,767 -No. -that we're going to share. 170 00:07:45,767 --> 00:07:47,700 I do look at it that way. We're not married. 171 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:53,166 This is Matt's house that I happen to cohabitate in. 172 00:07:53,166 --> 00:07:57,567 We have heard that building homes, construction, remodel, 173 00:07:57,567 --> 00:07:59,066 can cause divorces. 174 00:07:59,066 --> 00:08:00,567 We don't have to worry about that. 175 00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:03,266 [laughs] Don't have to worry about that. 176 00:08:03,266 --> 00:08:08,266 Um, and then are you happy about moving the shower so you're closer? 177 00:08:08,266 --> 00:08:09,567 Yeah, let me look at that. 178 00:08:09,567 --> 00:08:11,600 It was funny, 'cause I mentioned that to you 179 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,266 and you're like, oh, no, we're not doing that. 180 00:08:13,266 --> 00:08:15,867 And then the designer's like, why is the shower way over here? 181 00:08:15,867 --> 00:08:17,400 Well, you pushed on it. 182 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,567 She's got to agree to some of the stuff, you know. 183 00:08:20,567 --> 00:08:22,266 I tell you all the time. 184 00:08:22,266 --> 00:08:24,367 You make the final decision. 185 00:08:24,367 --> 00:08:26,100 In the end, it doesn't matter to me 186 00:08:26,100 --> 00:08:27,533 if the house is this, or this, or this. 187 00:08:28,266 --> 00:08:29,967 Karen's famous. 188 00:08:29,967 --> 00:08:33,767 That's a crazy idea, but you make the call. 189 00:08:33,767 --> 00:08:35,767 That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. 190 00:08:35,767 --> 00:08:38,033 That will look so ugly, but you decide. 191 00:08:38,367 --> 00:08:39,333 Click. 192 00:08:40,767 --> 00:08:42,467 I get left with... 193 00:08:42,467 --> 00:08:44,567 Hey, I'm trying to work through a collaboration. 194 00:08:44,567 --> 00:08:47,066 That's a terrible idea, but it's your decision. 195 00:08:47,066 --> 00:08:49,233 That's a terrible idea but it's your call. 196 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,567 Go to bed with that. 197 00:08:52,567 --> 00:08:54,800 She's in Arizona, I'm up here and I get that. 198 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,066 And then, good night. 199 00:08:57,767 --> 00:09:01,400 So beside all house stuff, 200 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,500 what else are you going to do while I'm gone? 201 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:05,367 Chris and I are going forward with that guys' night. 202 00:09:05,367 --> 00:09:07,000 That'll happen a couple of nights after you leave. 203 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,900 -Oh, good. -So you're going to have a girls' thing. 204 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:10,400 We're going to have a guys' night 205 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,266 and I talked to Zach, haven't talked to him in the last couple of days, 206 00:09:14,266 --> 00:09:16,400 but when I talked to him, he seemed to be doing good, 207 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,867 so I'm happy that he got through all that revision stuff. 208 00:09:19,867 --> 00:09:22,667 Yeah, probably feels better than he has in a long time. 209 00:09:22,667 --> 00:09:24,266 Yeah, I think last time I talked to him, 210 00:09:24,266 --> 00:09:27,867 he definitely was noticeably better. 211 00:09:27,867 --> 00:09:29,600 Checked in on Zach a couple of times 212 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,567 and it seemed like he was recovering well. 213 00:09:31,567 --> 00:09:34,767 I think the phrase he used for me was gamechanger. 214 00:09:34,767 --> 00:09:41,300 So he's not expecting any more headaches like he had before. 215 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:45,567 Um, it feels like Zach's on a good road to recovery. 216 00:09:45,567 --> 00:09:49,266 Well, now that we're getting a home, we've got to figure us out. 217 00:09:49,266 --> 00:09:52,767 -But let's give it a little breathing room. -Okay. 218 00:09:54,667 --> 00:09:56,967 I mean, we won't have any baby footsteps running around. 219 00:09:56,967 --> 00:09:58,166 -That's not where we're at. -No. 220 00:09:58,166 --> 00:10:00,467 But grandkids... 221 00:10:00,467 --> 00:10:02,800 It's a little bigger than we should have built, probably. 222 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,467 I mean, you know, but I think at least we don't worry 223 00:10:05,467 --> 00:10:07,533 about not having room for all my junk. 224 00:10:15,166 --> 00:10:18,500 Lilah has started taking dance classes and she loves it. 225 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:21,433 Oh, oh, whoa. 226 00:10:22,867 --> 00:10:24,767 Well, we'll see how this fundraiser goes. 227 00:10:24,767 --> 00:10:27,467 Amy and I were talking about doing a charity event. 228 00:10:27,467 --> 00:10:29,300 I think the biggest thing is, um, 229 00:10:29,300 --> 00:10:31,166 do I want to go down this road again? 230 00:10:31,166 --> 00:10:34,000 Having it at the farm and with them. 231 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,200 Matt offered the farm up to, you know, host this, 232 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,300 but Matt and I have history and it wasn't always pleasant 233 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:43,667 so we'll see how smoothly it goes. 234 00:10:59,567 --> 00:11:00,834 Come on. 235 00:11:03,266 --> 00:11:05,166 [Zach] We're building a shop right now. 236 00:11:05,166 --> 00:11:07,667 Downstairs is going to be for the tractors and all the tools. 237 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:11,033 And, uh, create more of an official workspace. 238 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,133 Oh my goodness. 239 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,100 [laughs] Yeah. 240 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:17,567 Jackson, look at this. 241 00:11:17,567 --> 00:11:19,934 [Zach] Shop's where Dad is going to spend a lot of time. 242 00:11:20,467 --> 00:11:22,567 Dad's space, not Mom's. 243 00:11:22,567 --> 00:11:25,967 Growing up, I didn't spend a lot of time tinkering at the farm. 244 00:11:25,967 --> 00:11:27,367 I spent a lot of time walking around the farm, 245 00:11:27,367 --> 00:11:30,967 but I never got into, like, the tinkering, fixing things, 246 00:11:30,967 --> 00:11:35,033 but now, I'll be able to have my own space and maybe get into that more. 247 00:11:35,667 --> 00:11:36,867 So this is going to be a wall. 248 00:11:36,867 --> 00:11:38,333 There's going to be a wall right here. 249 00:11:40,266 --> 00:11:41,834 Hang on, let me see what Lilah's doing. 250 00:11:42,367 --> 00:11:43,533 What are you doing? 251 00:11:44,667 --> 00:11:45,934 Get unstuck. 252 00:11:46,467 --> 00:11:47,634 Pull. 253 00:11:49,767 --> 00:11:50,934 Can you back up? 254 00:11:52,367 --> 00:11:53,433 Gosh. 255 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,233 This is why we walk around the mud, okay? 256 00:12:07,266 --> 00:12:08,834 -[Tori] What? -What? 257 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,967 [Tori] How'd you get up there? 258 00:12:11,967 --> 00:12:15,567 [Zach] The next steps for it is just finishing that framing 259 00:12:15,567 --> 00:12:17,266 and then getting the plywood on the roof, 260 00:12:17,266 --> 00:12:19,467 building out the dormer windows. 261 00:12:19,467 --> 00:12:22,767 I've never seen a structure be built from foundation to roof. 262 00:12:22,767 --> 00:12:24,166 Oh, yeah. Big learning experience. 263 00:12:24,166 --> 00:12:27,166 So it's been kind of fun to, like, learn. 264 00:12:27,166 --> 00:12:31,066 I say instead of, 'cause we talked about doing one of those porcelain sinks 265 00:12:31,066 --> 00:12:32,667 -that doesn't have any storage. -Yeah. 266 00:12:32,667 --> 00:12:35,834 I say we get a short sink in here 267 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:39,667 and its cabinet built in. 268 00:12:39,667 --> 00:12:42,166 -So you have storage underneath. -I think that ship has sailed. 269 00:12:42,166 --> 00:12:44,767 No it hasn't. I'm the one that's in charge of that. 270 00:12:44,767 --> 00:12:46,900 The light switches and the windows are low. 271 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:49,467 And the bathroom sink is going to be super low. 272 00:12:49,467 --> 00:12:53,867 And all the light switches are, like, 24 inches high. 273 00:12:53,867 --> 00:12:55,467 So our kids can sit there and turn them on and off. 274 00:12:55,467 --> 00:12:57,967 Yeah, so our kids can sit there and turn them on and off. 275 00:12:57,967 --> 00:12:59,667 All right. Do you guys have to get ready for dance? 276 00:12:59,667 --> 00:13:01,467 We do have to get ready for dance. 277 00:13:01,467 --> 00:13:02,900 Tell the boys, bye. 278 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:04,367 -[Zach] All right, Lilah. -Goodbye, boys. 279 00:13:04,367 --> 00:13:05,567 -[Zach] You're going to dance? -Bye. 280 00:13:05,567 --> 00:13:07,767 Lilah has started taking dance classes 281 00:13:07,767 --> 00:13:09,900 and she's doing just ballet right now. 282 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:12,400 [Tori] I was just thinking she really needs to be socialized 283 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,166 and if I put her on a sports field, 284 00:13:14,166 --> 00:13:16,567 -she'd probably think that we were killing her. -[Zach] Oh, yeah. 285 00:13:16,567 --> 00:13:19,066 -Anything with bouncing balls. -Anything, anything that-- 286 00:13:19,066 --> 00:13:20,767 A basketball comes up to her, ugh. 287 00:13:20,767 --> 00:13:23,100 Yeah, I just couldn't imagine her doing sports. 288 00:13:23,100 --> 00:13:27,400 So I did dance and she went to two classes and ended up loving it. 289 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,967 And she talks about it. 290 00:13:28,967 --> 00:13:31,266 She comes home and shows everyone her dance moves 291 00:13:31,266 --> 00:13:33,266 and she loves it, so it stuck. 292 00:13:43,100 --> 00:13:44,233 Can you do that? 293 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,200 [Tori] In front of all the dance moms, 294 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,667 one little girl came out and said she had to go to the bathroom. 295 00:13:49,667 --> 00:13:51,700 So then Lilah comes out and says she has to go to the bathroom. 296 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:53,367 And I'm like, no, no, no. We're not going to play this game. 297 00:13:53,367 --> 00:13:54,900 Just because somebody else is going pee-pee, 298 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:56,667 we're not going to, like, do it. 299 00:13:56,667 --> 00:13:59,467 Well, five minutes later, she peed her pants right there 300 00:13:59,467 --> 00:14:01,567 and I felt like a terrible mom. 301 00:14:01,567 --> 00:14:04,166 So bad, it was, like, a whole big thing, too. 302 00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:08,233 But that was my fault. It was a bad mom move. 303 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:11,233 Now we always go to the bathroom before dance class. 304 00:14:15,066 --> 00:14:16,667 Wait, Lilah. Come here. 305 00:14:16,667 --> 00:14:18,000 Come right here and do it. 306 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,367 Go right on this little dot. Do it right there. 307 00:14:20,367 --> 00:14:21,767 Okay. Do your twirl. 308 00:14:23,066 --> 00:14:26,200 Oh! Perfect. 309 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,166 Okay. Do it again. 310 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:31,600 Ooh. That was good. 311 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,867 I think the dance class has given Lilah something of her own. 312 00:14:35,867 --> 00:14:36,800 Yeah. 313 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:37,900 It's something that she does 314 00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:40,166 and I think that that's given her a lot of confidence. 315 00:14:40,166 --> 00:14:41,367 Yeah. 316 00:14:41,367 --> 00:14:42,500 Okay. Really quick. Show Daddy, then we've got to go. 317 00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:43,467 Are you ready? 318 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,800 Oh, oh, whoa. 319 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,066 Hey, Lilah. 320 00:14:48,066 --> 00:14:49,567 [Tori] Wait, Lilah. Try one more time. You've got it, girl. 321 00:14:49,567 --> 00:14:50,734 Lilah. 322 00:14:50,734 --> 00:14:52,667 -Lilah, you've got to do that without falling. -Hey, Lilah. 323 00:14:53,266 --> 00:14:54,567 -Yeah. -[Tori] There you go. 324 00:14:54,567 --> 00:14:55,667 Hey, Lilah. 325 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,800 [Tori] See, it's not easy. 326 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,100 -[Zach] Okay, okay. I think we're all done. -[Tori] All right. Got to go. 327 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:05,100 -Ow! -[Zach] Yeah. 328 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:07,433 [Tori] Are you okay? Let's put your shoes on. 329 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:18,867 Main thing, cabinets, carpet, flooring. 330 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,533 Now, you want to know the truth, right? 331 00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:24,100 The truth? Yeah. 332 00:15:24,100 --> 00:15:25,066 You can't handle the truth. 333 00:15:25,900 --> 00:15:27,500 You can't handle the truth. 334 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:30,700 The truth is I don't care much about all this stuff in here. 335 00:15:30,700 --> 00:15:32,767 I care about what's happening back at the farm. 336 00:15:32,767 --> 00:15:35,567 Well, that's obvious, but it all has to work together. 337 00:15:35,567 --> 00:15:40,066 You can't just abandon me with all this stuff. 338 00:15:40,066 --> 00:15:42,567 Karen's leaving for Arizona tomorrow, 339 00:15:42,567 --> 00:15:47,567 so Cherie, our designer, sent us to the flooring store 340 00:15:47,567 --> 00:15:52,266 to look at some flooring, you know, textures and color. 341 00:15:52,266 --> 00:15:53,767 I feel a lot of pressure right now, 342 00:15:53,767 --> 00:15:56,200 because Karen's going to be leaving, going out of town, 343 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,266 so it's more difficult to make decisions 344 00:15:58,266 --> 00:16:00,667 when you're trying to save time, 345 00:16:00,667 --> 00:16:02,667 you know, you're not physically right there 346 00:16:02,667 --> 00:16:05,100 in the same showroom together. 347 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:06,367 You ready? 348 00:16:06,367 --> 00:16:08,300 What have you got? 349 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:10,166 Da, da, da. 350 00:16:11,367 --> 00:16:12,533 No. 351 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:14,600 Too light. 352 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Okay, that's your tadum, tadum, tadum. 353 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,734 Look at my tadum, tadum, tadum. 354 00:16:21,867 --> 00:16:23,367 There. The top one up there. 355 00:16:23,367 --> 00:16:24,433 [laughs] 356 00:16:25,166 --> 00:16:27,066 That's like a black floor almost. 357 00:16:27,066 --> 00:16:28,300 That is so dark. 358 00:16:28,300 --> 00:16:30,900 How about, look at the grains in this one. 359 00:16:30,900 --> 00:16:34,367 You want the grains or the color? 360 00:16:34,367 --> 00:16:35,567 Both. 361 00:16:35,567 --> 00:16:38,000 All right. I mean, if you want to throw that in the mix. 362 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,166 You think that's too dark? 363 00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:43,166 I do, but here's the good thing. 364 00:16:43,166 --> 00:16:44,266 The designer decides. 365 00:16:44,266 --> 00:16:46,467 We pick the ones we like and then she decides. 366 00:16:46,467 --> 00:16:49,667 You know what's interesting? As soon as it starts going in a direction you don't like, 367 00:16:49,667 --> 00:16:52,266 then it goes, oh, let's get the designer to help. 368 00:16:52,266 --> 00:16:54,800 The designer has picked up what I do. 369 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,100 Well, you can do that. 370 00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:58,533 I mean, I think it's a terrible idea, but yeah. Go ahead. 371 00:17:00,066 --> 00:17:01,867 I think it's a terrible idea but go ahead. 372 00:17:01,867 --> 00:17:03,367 -I think it's going to look terrible. -Yeah, she does say that. 373 00:17:03,367 --> 00:17:04,700 But it's up to you guys. 374 00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:07,166 That's really bad. That's really ugly, but okay. 375 00:17:07,166 --> 00:17:10,066 That's what Karen says to me all the time. 376 00:17:10,066 --> 00:17:11,667 I'm like, I love that style. 377 00:17:11,667 --> 00:17:15,066 I want to put some barnwood in my office. Just, like, one piece. 378 00:17:15,066 --> 00:17:17,567 All right. Well, that would be really obnoxious, but okay. 379 00:17:18,567 --> 00:17:23,066 Maybe one of the bathrooms has this barnwood look. 380 00:17:24,967 --> 00:17:26,233 Seriously? 381 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,900 The house is definitely more contemporary 382 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:32,200 than anything else on the farm 383 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,767 and so it's not a barn 384 00:17:33,767 --> 00:17:37,100 and so, you know, you don't want to try to make it look like a barn. 385 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:39,000 Why not? 386 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,367 This is the way we're going to do it from now on. 387 00:17:41,367 --> 00:17:42,667 Find a product that you like. 388 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:45,500 You tell me where you don't want it 389 00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:47,367 and wherever's left is where I'll put it. 390 00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:49,967 Is this a product you like? 391 00:17:49,967 --> 00:17:51,166 That's a product I like. 392 00:17:52,266 --> 00:17:53,367 You want to know where I want it? 393 00:17:54,166 --> 00:17:55,467 In the, where? 394 00:17:55,467 --> 00:17:56,934 -Nowhere. -Nowhere? 395 00:17:57,967 --> 00:18:01,767 Now that we're making all these decisions on this house, 396 00:18:01,767 --> 00:18:03,767 I can kind of sympathize with Amy. 397 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,467 You're so persuasive and you just stay on it and gnaw at it 398 00:18:09,467 --> 00:18:10,634 until I'm like, you know what? 399 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:12,100 I don't care. 400 00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:13,967 My mother used to say, he grinds on it. 401 00:18:13,967 --> 00:18:15,500 [laughing] 402 00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:18,066 You know what? You just hurt my personal feelings. 403 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,900 I'm actually kidding. 404 00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:21,667 I mean, yeah. Let's bring it out 405 00:18:21,667 --> 00:18:23,667 and maybe Cherie can find a place for it. 406 00:18:23,667 --> 00:18:27,266 By rejecting that product, I am now damaged goods. 407 00:18:27,266 --> 00:18:29,467 But look. Elegant. 408 00:18:29,467 --> 00:18:32,000 -I'm going to go with that. -Sophisticated. 409 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,066 Still warm and rustic. 410 00:18:35,166 --> 00:18:36,767 Barn doesn't... 411 00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:39,467 So certain things just need to-- 412 00:18:39,467 --> 00:18:43,000 What's that hotel we went to years ago where every room is different? 413 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,867 Madonna Inn or something like that. 414 00:18:44,867 --> 00:18:46,266 You went there with Amy, not me. 415 00:18:46,266 --> 00:18:47,233 Oh, sorry. 416 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,266 Get your girlfriends straight. 417 00:18:50,667 --> 00:18:52,400 [laughs] 418 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,600 Okay. Well, every room was different. 419 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,100 That's what I want to achieve. 420 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:58,133 -Well... -When you walk into every room, 421 00:18:58,500 --> 00:18:59,734 it's unique. 422 00:19:01,166 --> 00:19:03,900 We've got problems, then. 423 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:06,667 'Cause we talked about a cohesive look. 424 00:19:06,667 --> 00:19:12,300 Well, there's a lot of choices and Karen's taste and my taste are not always, 425 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:16,000 I mean, we're sort of in the same neighborhood, often. 426 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,800 Um, but, you know, I like certain things 427 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,867 and she likes different things. 428 00:19:20,867 --> 00:19:23,667 Uh, I wish we had made a little more progress, 429 00:19:23,667 --> 00:19:25,700 but I guess something's better than nothing. 430 00:19:25,700 --> 00:19:28,333 I like a little more rustic, a little more natural. 431 00:19:29,066 --> 00:19:30,300 Rustic and natural. 432 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:31,634 And I like steel. 433 00:19:32,166 --> 00:19:34,066 Metal steel with big bolts. 434 00:19:34,667 --> 00:19:35,900 She doesn't like big bolts. 435 00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:38,200 I never said I didn't like big bolts. 436 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,800 I don't like big bolts from 1917. 437 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,900 It happened to be 1937 that the Golden Gate Bridge was built 438 00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:48,367 and they used lots of rivets. 439 00:19:48,367 --> 00:19:50,467 And it looks a wonderful look. 440 00:19:50,467 --> 00:19:52,367 -Do you think we've made any progress? -No. 441 00:19:53,367 --> 00:19:54,533 But it's a good start. 442 00:19:55,767 --> 00:19:58,266 I think that, like, everything that we went through 443 00:19:58,266 --> 00:20:00,667 definitely, like, puts things into perspective. 444 00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:02,400 All these issues are still here 445 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,166 and, you know, the other shoe can drop at any time, 446 00:20:05,166 --> 00:20:07,400 but I would go through millions of surgeries 447 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,667 before I want my kids to go through a surgery. 448 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:31,400 [Tori] Hey, who's gonna win? 449 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,967 -[Lilah speaking] -[Jackson speaking] 450 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:34,934 [Lilah speaking] 451 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,467 [Zach] It's been a month since my surgery, 452 00:20:37,467 --> 00:20:39,567 and the whole family's gonna go bowling. 453 00:20:39,567 --> 00:20:42,467 Feels good. Feels, you know, still not out of the woods, 454 00:20:42,467 --> 00:20:45,467 but it feels good to be out of that, you know, time. 455 00:20:45,467 --> 00:20:47,266 Why don't you put your shoes on? 456 00:20:47,266 --> 00:20:51,100 Oh, we're not just gonna pull our pants down right here, thanks, though. 457 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:53,767 [Tori] The actual reason why we went bowling, 458 00:20:53,767 --> 00:20:55,367 was because a couple of weeks ago, 459 00:20:55,367 --> 00:20:57,700 one Saturday, we're sitting around, just bored, 460 00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:00,867 -and Dad's like, "Hey, who wants to go bowling?" -[Zach] Oh, yeah. 461 00:21:00,867 --> 00:21:03,166 And all of us were, like, "Yeah! Let's go bowling!" 462 00:21:03,166 --> 00:21:04,266 -Yeah. -And we're packing up, 463 00:21:04,266 --> 00:21:06,467 we're literally getting in the car, 464 00:21:06,467 --> 00:21:07,767 and Jackson goes, 465 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:09,800 "Guys. 466 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,166 Dad can't lift more than 10 pounds." 467 00:21:12,166 --> 00:21:15,100 -Yeah. Yeah. -"And a bowling ball is more than 10 pounds." 468 00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:18,000 -And Zack and I looked at each other... -So we didn't go bowling. 469 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,367 Our five-year-old is being more responsible than we are at this point. 470 00:21:22,367 --> 00:21:24,433 So we didn't go bowling. [chuckles] 471 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,967 We like bowling. We like... 472 00:21:37,967 --> 00:21:39,734 -We've done it a couple of times. -Easy with the kids. 473 00:21:40,867 --> 00:21:43,066 -[Tori] Oh, Daddy-o! -[Zach] There we go! 474 00:21:43,066 --> 00:21:45,767 -[Tori] Wow! Oh! -[Zach] There we go! 475 00:21:45,767 --> 00:21:47,667 [Tori] Honestly, it's like, easy, 476 00:21:47,667 --> 00:21:49,700 'cause we just get out of the house for a couple of hours. 477 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:52,066 -[Zach] Yeah. -It's nice to just get out. 478 00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:55,367 -Let them get some energy out. -And it's fun watching Jackson do new things. 479 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,100 [Tori] Watch fingers! 480 00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:01,767 -[Jackson speaking] -[Lilah speaking] 481 00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:08,433 -[Jackson] Wow, straight! -[Zach] Oh, wow, wow, yeah. 482 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:11,700 [Tori] Ooh! 483 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:13,000 [Lilah squeals excitedly] 484 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,400 [Tori] That's so cute. Jackson helps Lilah with her ball, 485 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,767 Lilah does not care, as long as there's snacks. 486 00:22:17,767 --> 00:22:19,867 She's, like, "Sure, I'll go along with it." 487 00:22:19,867 --> 00:22:21,767 -[Lilah speaking] -Go. 488 00:22:23,967 --> 00:22:26,900 [Tori] Wow, look at it, Lilah! You gotta watch it! 489 00:22:26,900 --> 00:22:27,934 [Zach] Uh-oh. 490 00:22:28,667 --> 00:22:30,200 [Tori] Wow, Lilah! 491 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,333 [Jackson speaking] 492 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,800 Well, nobody got any stripes, 493 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,667 -'cause we're not tigers. -They're called strikes. 494 00:22:42,567 --> 00:22:43,934 -There you go. -Strikes. 495 00:22:44,767 --> 00:22:46,567 [Tori] Oh! 496 00:22:46,567 --> 00:22:48,767 [Tori and Zach] Oh! Oh! 497 00:22:48,767 --> 00:22:50,066 [both yelling] Oh! 498 00:22:53,367 --> 00:22:54,467 [Tori] Good job, J! 499 00:22:54,467 --> 00:22:56,000 [Tori] How big was your bowling ball? 500 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,667 [Josiah babbling] 501 00:22:57,667 --> 00:22:59,266 Or, like, how heavy? 502 00:22:59,266 --> 00:23:00,834 So what was the number that was on it? 503 00:23:01,767 --> 00:23:03,900 -Six pounds. -[Josiah continues babbling] 504 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:05,667 [Zach] Tori, you were losing the whole game! 505 00:23:05,667 --> 00:23:06,867 Now you're gonna win it. 506 00:23:06,867 --> 00:23:08,567 I'm gonna, I'm gonna blow it right here. Watch. 507 00:23:08,567 --> 00:23:10,634 You just have to hit one pin, and you're gonna win. 508 00:23:11,367 --> 00:23:12,533 [Tori] Oh wait, really? 509 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,867 -[Tori] Strike. -[Zach] Oh my gosh. 510 00:23:18,867 --> 00:23:20,467 -[Tori] Whoa! -[Zach laughs] 511 00:23:20,467 --> 00:23:22,000 [Tori] Finally! 512 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,300 -That's annoying. -[Tori] I win! 513 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:25,533 [Zach] Who's the best bowler? 514 00:23:26,467 --> 00:23:28,767 -[Zach laughs] -Pretty sure I won. 515 00:23:28,767 --> 00:23:30,333 Yeah, Mom did win. 516 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,300 Mom got a strike at the very end. 517 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:40,467 I think Si-Si's the best bowler. 518 00:23:40,467 --> 00:23:42,100 [Tori chuckles] 519 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:45,066 [Zach] Glad I'm over my ordeal. 520 00:23:45,066 --> 00:23:46,667 [Tori] You were falling apart. 521 00:23:46,667 --> 00:23:49,467 I know, I am falling apart. I already told you that. 522 00:23:49,467 --> 00:23:52,400 I think I've been pretty clear about my falling apart since day one. 523 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,667 [Tori] I don't know, though. Have you? 524 00:23:53,667 --> 00:23:56,200 I have. You chose to ignore it. 525 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,667 -Did I, though? -Yeah. [chuckles] 526 00:23:57,667 --> 00:23:59,000 [Zach] It's always something. 527 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,367 -There's always some-- -There's always some headache, 528 00:24:01,367 --> 00:24:04,000 -some gut ache. -Ache. Yeah. 529 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,567 -Some ache. -Knee ache, toe ache. 530 00:24:06,567 --> 00:24:07,767 Brain ache. 531 00:24:07,767 --> 00:24:09,200 [Tori] I think, though, once you hit 30, 532 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,567 it's really just a new world for everyone. 533 00:24:11,567 --> 00:24:14,066 It's, like, things just make noises, and... 534 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,567 -Yeah. -...things start breaking down. 535 00:24:17,567 --> 00:24:20,667 No, I think that, like, everything that we went through, 536 00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:22,867 for sure, makes you, like, more grateful, 537 00:24:22,867 --> 00:24:25,967 for every, like, day that everyone's healthy, 538 00:24:25,967 --> 00:24:27,567 and everyone's good. 539 00:24:27,567 --> 00:24:28,900 -[Zach] Oh, yeah. -[Tori] You know? 540 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:31,266 -[ball crashes into pins] -Right? 541 00:24:31,266 --> 00:24:32,734 I think about that all the time, now. 542 00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:37,333 It definitely, like, puts things into perspective. 543 00:24:38,767 --> 00:24:41,667 And, like, the fact that all of our kids are able to bowl. 544 00:24:41,667 --> 00:24:43,367 Oh, yeah, bowl. Not just bowl, 545 00:24:43,367 --> 00:24:45,000 but they're all very capable kids. 546 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,467 [Tori chuckles] Okay, can you just turn around? 547 00:24:46,467 --> 00:24:47,867 [Zach] Regardless, you know what I'm saying? 548 00:24:47,867 --> 00:24:49,867 -Right. -They're all very capable. 549 00:24:49,867 --> 00:24:51,400 Right. 550 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,600 [Zach] When it comes to what I just went through with hydrocephalus, 551 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,166 and shutting all function, and all that, 552 00:24:56,166 --> 00:24:57,967 I feel like our kids are old enough now 553 00:24:57,967 --> 00:24:59,567 that they might be out of that. 554 00:24:59,567 --> 00:25:01,367 -Hopefully. -It's a very common thing, 555 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,300 at a young baby age. 556 00:25:03,300 --> 00:25:05,700 But you can get a shunt at any time. 557 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:08,300 You can get a need for a shunt any time. 558 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:10,066 You know, you can get cancer, you can, 559 00:25:10,066 --> 00:25:12,300 there's a lot of different things that can happen. 560 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,166 Three dwarf kids are doing pretty good. 561 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,800 We're blessed. That's for sure. 562 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,567 [Zach] They still got a lot of life to live, though. 563 00:25:19,667 --> 00:25:21,667 They have a lot of time to break down, like Dad. 564 00:25:21,667 --> 00:25:23,567 Yeah. [chuckles] 565 00:25:23,567 --> 00:25:25,567 [Zach] I would go through 20 surgeries, 566 00:25:25,567 --> 00:25:27,100 a hundred, millions of surgeries, 567 00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:29,100 before I want my kids to go through a surgery. 568 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,767 But, um, all these issues are still here, 569 00:25:31,767 --> 00:25:34,300 and, you know, the other shoe can drop any time. 570 00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,767 I don't think that's in Tori's mindset, 571 00:25:36,767 --> 00:25:38,867 to wait for the other shoe to drop. 572 00:25:38,867 --> 00:25:40,467 I don't think that's her personality. 573 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,000 It's probably more mine, if anything. 574 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,100 With, like, kids, like, I'll, my next, 575 00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:47,166 when's one of our kids gonna have an issue? 576 00:25:47,166 --> 00:25:48,800 But, you know, we'll take it one step, 577 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,133 one, you know, day at a time. 578 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,333 Gonna break the floor! [laughs] 579 00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:58,767 [Matt] Coming up... 580 00:25:58,767 --> 00:26:00,367 So being relatively new married, 581 00:26:00,367 --> 00:26:01,467 how's that changed your life? 582 00:26:01,467 --> 00:26:05,000 That's what I wanna know! What is the hardest part? 583 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,600 [Chris] It was hard sharing, 584 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,767 and cleaning up after somebody else, and closing doors. 585 00:26:09,767 --> 00:26:11,567 [Matt] You're not trying to convince me that Amy 586 00:26:11,567 --> 00:26:13,367 doesn't close doors behind her? 587 00:26:13,367 --> 00:26:15,100 She's always been like that? 588 00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:16,667 [both laugh] 589 00:26:16,667 --> 00:26:18,767 Drives me a little nutty too, when people don't do that. 590 00:26:30,567 --> 00:26:32,567 Boy, it's a little slippery out there, isn't it? 591 00:26:32,567 --> 00:26:34,433 -[Ty shouts] -Very. Very. 592 00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:36,100 I can see your breath! 593 00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:38,100 Caryn's away, and it's a perfect time 594 00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:39,867 to get Chris and Bill and Ty, 595 00:26:39,867 --> 00:26:41,300 a couple of my buddies together, 596 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:42,800 and, you know, just kind of hang out. 597 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,166 I think both of 'em have met Chris briefly, 598 00:26:45,166 --> 00:26:47,667 on multiple family events and things. 599 00:26:47,667 --> 00:26:50,667 So Ty came to me specifically, 600 00:26:50,667 --> 00:26:53,567 and said, "We gotta set up a guy's night, 601 00:26:53,567 --> 00:26:55,800 and hang out with them." I said "Great!" So we did. 602 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,166 -[Ty] Oh, fire. -[Chris] Wow. 603 00:26:58,166 --> 00:26:59,667 [Ty] Get that thing stoked up. 604 00:26:59,667 --> 00:27:01,400 [Chris] Oh, the cabin looks good. 605 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,100 -It does. -Let's go check it out, gentlemen. 606 00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:04,166 All right. 607 00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:08,166 I've known Matt now for, what, six years, I think? 608 00:27:08,166 --> 00:27:11,567 And in the beginning, I was really kind of surprised that, uh, 609 00:27:11,567 --> 00:27:13,667 Matt was, uh, as friendly as he was. 610 00:27:13,667 --> 00:27:15,600 You know, usually, you know, 611 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,166 you hear exes not being too friendly with, uh, 612 00:27:19,166 --> 00:27:20,667 new significant others. 613 00:27:20,667 --> 00:27:22,000 I just know that when we sit down, 614 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,166 and we have a conversation, 615 00:27:23,166 --> 00:27:25,000 you know, it feels like we're talking the same language, 616 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,600 we just seem to have a lot in common, 617 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,667 and, uh, it's a great opportunity 618 00:27:28,667 --> 00:27:31,567 to, you know, expand my friend circle, 619 00:27:31,567 --> 00:27:32,800 and, nice to be included. 620 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,934 Whoa! 621 00:27:34,467 --> 00:27:36,266 It's a little warm in here. 622 00:27:36,266 --> 00:27:37,767 [Chris] Oh! 623 00:27:37,767 --> 00:27:39,300 Oh, yeah. That feels good. 624 00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:41,867 Amy wasn't, by any means, 625 00:27:41,867 --> 00:27:44,000 encouraging me to go over 626 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,166 and do a guy's night, 627 00:27:46,166 --> 00:27:47,767 with Matt and his friends. 628 00:27:47,767 --> 00:27:50,266 But, you know, she knew it was something I wanted to do, 629 00:27:50,266 --> 00:27:52,367 and, um, fortunately, 630 00:27:52,367 --> 00:27:55,567 Amy's kinda gotten used to the idea that, 631 00:27:55,567 --> 00:27:58,300 you know, we're gonna keep running into each other, you know? 632 00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:00,166 And, um, 633 00:28:00,166 --> 00:28:02,634 and it's, I think in a healthy way. 634 00:28:03,166 --> 00:28:05,266 Ty, thanks for pushing on this. 635 00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:06,767 [chuckles] 636 00:28:06,767 --> 00:28:09,600 -[Matt] Yeah, if Ty hadn't been so persistent... -[Chris chuckles] Yeah. 637 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,467 I really wanted to do this. 638 00:28:11,467 --> 00:28:12,667 Cheers to all of us. 639 00:28:12,667 --> 00:28:14,200 -[Chris] Yeah. -[Ty] Here's to friends. 640 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,200 -[Matt] Here's to friendship, yeah, yeah. -[Ty] Whoo. 641 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,200 -[Bill] Cheers. -[Ty] No, I really wanted to do this. 642 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,266 Whoa, whoa. 643 00:28:19,266 --> 00:28:21,567 Am I the only one in the group that's not married? 644 00:28:21,567 --> 00:28:22,767 [Ty] Yes! 645 00:28:22,767 --> 00:28:24,500 -[Ty laughs] -That's not right. 646 00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:26,367 -[Ty] I know-- -Yeah! 647 00:28:26,367 --> 00:28:27,767 [all laugh] 648 00:28:27,767 --> 00:28:30,266 -I thought maybe this was gonna be a bachelor-- -[Matt] Go back around! 649 00:28:30,266 --> 00:28:32,100 [Ty] I thought this was gonna be a bachelor party. 650 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:33,266 I was gonna, like, pop the news on you? 651 00:28:33,266 --> 00:28:35,033 Yeah, I thought you were gonna pop the news to us. 652 00:28:36,667 --> 00:28:38,500 Hey, you guys like? I just added-- 653 00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:40,066 [Ty] No, don't change the subject. 654 00:28:40,066 --> 00:28:42,266 [Matt] I am changing the subject. 655 00:28:42,266 --> 00:28:44,934 I've added curtains since anybody's been down here. These are new. 656 00:28:45,467 --> 00:28:46,500 [Ty] Those are nice. 657 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:48,567 Are you gonna start a family, Chris? 658 00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:50,967 [all laugh] 659 00:28:50,967 --> 00:28:54,400 We got a dog in September, we're set. 660 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,467 -Yeah, Amy wants to be pregnant again, right? -I don't know! 661 00:28:56,467 --> 00:28:58,467 I don't if you know the king of awkward questions. 662 00:28:58,467 --> 00:29:00,066 [all laugh] 663 00:29:00,066 --> 00:29:02,200 I know how much Amy loves kids, man. 664 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,367 -You gotta have one more. Come on, Chris. -No, no. You know, 665 00:29:04,367 --> 00:29:05,767 never having kids of my own, 666 00:29:05,767 --> 00:29:08,367 I never thought I would experience, you know, the grandchild thing. 667 00:29:08,367 --> 00:29:11,500 -Oh, man. And you-- -But, uh, having hooked up with Amy-- 668 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,066 -Jackpot. -Yeah. 669 00:29:13,066 --> 00:29:14,900 Yeah, seven grandkids already, 670 00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:17,367 -and more on the way, and you know, so... -Yeah. 671 00:29:17,367 --> 00:29:19,567 [Matt] Yeah, you know, and I must admit, 672 00:29:19,567 --> 00:29:21,300 Chris fits into the family very well. 673 00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:24,000 -Everyone, all the kids, rant and rave. Yeah. -[Chris] Oh, well, thank you. 674 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,266 And it's really great that you guys are such good buddies... 675 00:29:28,266 --> 00:29:30,500 -[Chris chuckles] -...because you don't see it very often. 676 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:32,867 Well, you know, it is, it's not like, you know, 677 00:29:32,867 --> 00:29:35,900 Matt and I aren't anywhere near as close as you guys are, 678 00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:38,266 but Matt's more like a really good neighbor. 679 00:29:38,266 --> 00:29:40,500 If I need to borrow a power tool, I can call him up. 680 00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:42,967 -[Ty] Right. -If he's got a question about drywall, he calls me up. 681 00:29:42,967 --> 00:29:45,100 -Yeah, that's true. -You know? We just, you know, 682 00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,266 So there's, we're just very comfortable 683 00:29:47,266 --> 00:29:49,700 about reaching out if we have a question about anything. 684 00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:53,300 You know, we don't just call each other to talk for an hour or two. 685 00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:54,800 Right, no, exactly. 686 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,066 [Matt] I gotta respect Amy's, you know... 687 00:29:57,066 --> 00:29:59,100 -What does Amy think about it? -[Matt]...whatever you call it. 688 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,467 You know, initially, she, when I first met her, 689 00:30:01,467 --> 00:30:02,667 she wouldn't have approved of this at all. 690 00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:05,266 But over time, it's just kind of evolved naturally. 691 00:30:05,266 --> 00:30:07,266 -[Matt] Right. -But still, on the way here, 692 00:30:07,266 --> 00:30:10,467 I stopped at the, uh, the spot over there, 693 00:30:10,467 --> 00:30:12,000 on, uh, West Union. 694 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,100 and got a bouquet of flowers, I've got 'em in the car. 695 00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:15,467 -Oh, good! -So when I go home tonight-- 696 00:30:15,467 --> 00:30:16,867 [all laugh] 697 00:30:16,867 --> 00:30:19,100 Good move! This guy here! 698 00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:22,100 -[all laughing] -[Matt] Everybody get out your notepads! 699 00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,300 -[Ty] Cheers to that! -[all chuckling] 700 00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:26,100 [Ty] That's, good for you! 701 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:27,800 You know, one of the things I love about her, 702 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,567 is a bouquet of flowers go a long way. 703 00:30:29,567 --> 00:30:31,266 -[Ty] Oh, I bet! -Oh, I know that! 704 00:30:32,066 --> 00:30:34,300 I'm happy that Amy, you know, 705 00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:36,100 seems to be more and more okay, 706 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:37,667 -I mean, the flowers don't hurt. -[chuckles] 707 00:30:37,667 --> 00:30:38,967 But, you know, 708 00:30:38,967 --> 00:30:41,767 but it's good that, um, Amy seems to be okay with it. 709 00:30:41,767 --> 00:30:44,567 We get together to just, you know, catch up on what 710 00:30:44,567 --> 00:30:46,867 -he's doing, what I'm doing, and yeah. -Yeah. 711 00:30:46,867 --> 00:30:49,667 It's neat that you guys have a, you know, that you get along. 712 00:30:49,667 --> 00:30:51,767 Like I said, it's probably-- 713 00:30:51,767 --> 00:30:53,500 I, you know, honestly, 714 00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:55,767 I feel I can call Amy and talk to her about things. 715 00:30:55,767 --> 00:30:58,567 Honestly, we get along better now than, than we did. 716 00:30:58,567 --> 00:31:00,567 -Funny how that happens. -Yeah, funny how that happens. 717 00:31:00,567 --> 00:31:02,500 Time always heals, too. 718 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:04,767 I mean, don't you feel like you're getting along better now 719 00:31:04,767 --> 00:31:05,967 than you did five years ago? 720 00:31:05,967 --> 00:31:07,166 Yeah. Definitely. 721 00:31:07,166 --> 00:31:09,400 Amy does seem to have, 722 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,000 a lot of people say, she's relaxed a lot more. 723 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,500 I've heard that about you, too. 724 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:16,867 I mean, I didn't know you very well five years ago, 725 00:31:16,867 --> 00:31:19,867 but I've heard people say that you've kinda relaxed a little bit too. 726 00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:24,166 I mean, obviously I haven't really gotten to know Matt 727 00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:26,500 until probably just the last couple of years. 728 00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:29,100 But, so, I don't know what Matt was like before, 729 00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:32,767 uh, we met, but, uh, from what I hear, 730 00:31:32,767 --> 00:31:34,100 you know, I've heard some good things, 731 00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,567 that you've sort of mellowed with age. 732 00:31:35,567 --> 00:31:38,266 and, uh, which is natural, I think most people do. 733 00:31:38,266 --> 00:31:40,500 There have been some things that have happened out here, 734 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:41,567 some events and stuff, 735 00:31:41,567 --> 00:31:43,000 and Amy said to me, in the old days, 736 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,166 you never would have agreed to that. 737 00:31:44,166 --> 00:31:46,200 And so, I think even she has said 738 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,867 -that you've kinda mellowed, softened in some areas. -Yeah, yeah. 739 00:31:48,867 --> 00:31:49,900 That's true. 740 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:52,934 -I don't sweat the petty stuff as much. -Yeah. 741 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,800 So being relatively new married, 742 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,066 how's that changed your life? 743 00:31:57,066 --> 00:31:59,900 Well, it's, you know, I've been a bachelor all my life, 744 00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:02,367 -and, you know-- -[Matt] That's what I wanna know, 745 00:32:02,367 --> 00:32:03,934 what is the hardest part? 746 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:06,100 It was hard sharing, 747 00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:07,900 and cleaning up after somebody else, 748 00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:11,266 and closing doors, and drawers, 749 00:32:11,266 --> 00:32:14,166 um, that took a lot of adjusting, you know? 750 00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:15,600 Putting the toilet seat down. 751 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,467 -[Chris] Yeah! -[all laugh] 752 00:32:18,467 --> 00:32:20,200 -Oh... -[Matt] You're not saying, 753 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,266 you're not trying to convince me that Amy 754 00:32:22,266 --> 00:32:24,100 doesn't close doors behind her? 755 00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:25,767 She's always been like that? 756 00:32:25,767 --> 00:32:27,300 [all laugh] 757 00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:29,600 Drives me a little nutty too, when people don't do that. 758 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,000 When Chris is sitting there in the cabin, 759 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,800 you know, you would never know that, 760 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,767 you know, me and Bill and Ty go back quite a few years, 761 00:32:36,767 --> 00:32:40,467 and that Chris is just, you know, recently, 762 00:32:40,467 --> 00:32:42,100 um, but you'd never know that, 763 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:45,500 we visited as if we'd all been fishing buddies for 30 years. 764 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:47,367 Caryn and I were trying to figure out, like, 765 00:32:47,367 --> 00:32:51,166 we had the whole, don't fix what's not broke, 766 00:32:51,166 --> 00:32:53,266 we got that whole thing going, you know, like... 767 00:32:53,266 --> 00:32:55,066 -Right. -...it's just, it's working so well, 768 00:32:55,066 --> 00:32:57,433 we're, I think we're afraid that, 769 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,767 I mean, it's not that we have anything 770 00:33:00,767 --> 00:33:02,567 against the institution of marriage, 771 00:33:02,567 --> 00:33:04,967 we've both liked it, we've been married, 772 00:33:04,967 --> 00:33:08,300 but, like, do we need to do that, exactly? You know... 773 00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:10,266 I was concerned about that too. 774 00:33:10,266 --> 00:33:11,467 You know, I mean, at 59, 775 00:33:11,467 --> 00:33:13,400 it's not like I felt like I had to get married, 776 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,166 but I'd heard so many stories from other couples that, 777 00:33:17,166 --> 00:33:18,700 were together for a long time, 778 00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:20,166 and as soon as they got married, 779 00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:21,200 the relationship changed. 780 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,367 -Yeah. -I was a little... 781 00:33:22,367 --> 00:33:23,467 They're allergic to the metal. 782 00:33:23,467 --> 00:33:25,700 -[Matt] Don't talk to us about that! -The jewelry. 783 00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:27,867 [Matt] That's all I need to know, in real life, don't tell me about that. 784 00:33:27,867 --> 00:33:30,000 So did you feel that kind of shift, or? 785 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,567 -Well... -[Matt] Not yet. 786 00:33:31,567 --> 00:33:33,367 [Chris] Fortunately, that didn't happen. 787 00:33:33,367 --> 00:33:34,800 But no, I was concerned about that, 788 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,300 but fortunately, it didn't change. 789 00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:38,333 -Okay. -I don't even feel like, 790 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,166 if anything, it became easier. 791 00:33:41,166 --> 00:33:44,100 We're not, we're not taking anything off the table. 792 00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:45,700 We always, when we talk about it, 793 00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:47,100 we always say we'll talk about it again 794 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,700 in a couple of weeks, or months, or whatever. 795 00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:50,400 You know, but the house right now, is, 796 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,266 a lot of it was, push stop because of that. 797 00:33:53,266 --> 00:33:55,767 So that does sort of, it's a game changer. 798 00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:57,266 -You're scared. -Petrified. 799 00:33:57,266 --> 00:33:58,467 -[Chris chuckles] -[Ty] You are! 800 00:33:58,467 --> 00:34:00,467 -Petrified! Yeah. -[Chris] You are? Really, you are? 801 00:34:00,467 --> 00:34:03,467 You are, I feel it. You're scared. 802 00:34:03,467 --> 00:34:05,734 -I'm shaking in my boots. -[Ty] You're shaking in your boots. 803 00:34:06,567 --> 00:34:08,567 You don't like that... [stammers]...commitment. 804 00:34:08,567 --> 00:34:10,867 -[Matt] No, it's not that commitment, no. -No? 805 00:34:10,867 --> 00:34:12,800 No, it's just, I understand. 806 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,867 I don't ever see myself with anybody other than Caryn. 807 00:34:14,867 --> 00:34:16,767 I think she feels the same way. 808 00:34:16,767 --> 00:34:19,767 One of the things that's very good about Caryn and I's relationship, 809 00:34:19,767 --> 00:34:22,867 is we're able to give each other space. 810 00:34:22,867 --> 00:34:26,467 We enjoy, sort of, our mixture of independence. 811 00:34:26,467 --> 00:34:28,467 We've tested our waters 812 00:34:28,467 --> 00:34:30,767 by having our place together in Arizona, 813 00:34:30,767 --> 00:34:31,767 being able to go down there. 814 00:34:31,767 --> 00:34:34,266 We did talk about once the house is real, 815 00:34:34,266 --> 00:34:35,767 we would revisit it, 816 00:34:35,767 --> 00:34:37,667 so we're starting that process of, like, 817 00:34:37,667 --> 00:34:39,200 hey, does this change anything? 818 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,900 [chuckling] We're both kinda like, not necessarily, 819 00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:43,367 other than, you might sell your house 820 00:34:43,367 --> 00:34:44,667 and move in, you know. 821 00:34:44,667 --> 00:34:46,567 So, um, but you know, 822 00:34:46,567 --> 00:34:49,367 we very much respect 823 00:34:49,367 --> 00:34:51,867 and appreciate the, 824 00:34:51,867 --> 00:34:53,300 the concept of marriage, 825 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:55,400 and the principles behind it, 826 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,867 and we're weighing all of our options. 827 00:34:57,867 --> 00:35:00,700 No matter what I do, one thing I can promise. 828 00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:02,266 You guys will be the last to know. 829 00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:03,500 -[all chuckle] -Whoo! 830 00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:05,667 -[Ty] Salute! -[all chuckling] 831 00:35:05,667 --> 00:35:07,000 [narrator] Coming up... 832 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,467 [Amy] It's so funny, I'm getting so many people commenting 833 00:35:09,467 --> 00:35:11,767 -on yours and Matt's romance. -[Chris chuckles] 834 00:35:11,767 --> 00:35:14,500 People think you guys will talk about me. 835 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:15,967 I don't think so. 836 00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:40,266 [Chris] Wow. What a great day. 837 00:35:40,266 --> 00:35:41,767 [Amy] I have to get a map of this park, 838 00:35:41,767 --> 00:35:43,166 I haven't been here in so long. 839 00:35:43,166 --> 00:35:46,300 [Chris] Yeah, I'm glad that we kinda have it to ourselves, too. 840 00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:48,133 [Amy] Oh, yeah. Me too. Come on! 841 00:35:49,266 --> 00:35:50,867 [Chris] If you guys wanna walk up to this table... 842 00:35:50,867 --> 00:35:52,667 -[Amy] All right. -...I'll go back to the car and get our lunch. 843 00:35:52,667 --> 00:35:54,700 [Amy] Oh, good! I get to watch her, you do all the work? 844 00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:55,800 [Chris] Yeah. 845 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,767 We're kind of in our early spring, 846 00:35:57,767 --> 00:35:59,700 and wanna take advantage of the nice weather, 847 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:02,266 so, we wanted to have a different kind of scenery, 848 00:36:02,266 --> 00:36:04,900 -taking Daisy for a walk. -[Chris] Yeah. We got spring fever. 849 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:07,934 -We wanna get out in the sunshine, and open air. -Yeah. 850 00:36:09,467 --> 00:36:10,867 All right, to our first picnic. 851 00:36:10,867 --> 00:36:12,500 I know, isn't that great? 852 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:15,166 First picnic of the year. 853 00:36:15,166 --> 00:36:17,867 It's so funny, I'm getting so many people commenting 854 00:36:17,867 --> 00:36:19,867 -on yours and Matt's romance. -[Chris chuckles] 855 00:36:19,867 --> 00:36:23,066 Lisa's, like, what in the world is that all about? 856 00:36:23,066 --> 00:36:24,867 and I said, "Yeah, i know." 857 00:36:24,867 --> 00:36:26,734 You're getting okay with it, though, right? 858 00:36:27,467 --> 00:36:29,800 As long as it doesn't get too crazy. 859 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,433 People think you guys will talk about me. 860 00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:35,266 I don't think so. 861 00:36:35,266 --> 00:36:38,300 I'm glad that Amy is getting more comfortable with, 862 00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:39,800 uh, you know, Matt and I. 863 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,967 -You know? -I swallow it. 864 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:43,967 [laughs] Okay. 865 00:36:43,967 --> 00:36:45,233 [both chuckle] 866 00:36:46,166 --> 00:36:48,166 I'm glad Amy could choke it down. 867 00:36:48,166 --> 00:36:49,367 [both laugh] 868 00:36:49,367 --> 00:36:51,867 Well, in a way, when Matt and I get together, 869 00:36:51,867 --> 00:36:54,567 she knows it's safe, we're not talking about Amy. 870 00:36:54,567 --> 00:36:56,667 You know, no one's throwing her under the bus. 871 00:36:56,667 --> 00:36:58,533 -Don't be comparing notes, man. -[Chris chuckles] 872 00:36:59,767 --> 00:37:02,600 You know, occasionally, I mean, some relationship comes up. 873 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,066 Oh, like what? 874 00:37:04,767 --> 00:37:06,567 I might make a comment about, you know, 875 00:37:06,567 --> 00:37:09,200 you and I do this, or this is an issue, 876 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,467 and he might say something about he and Caryn, 877 00:37:11,467 --> 00:37:13,367 but we don't compare notes about you. 878 00:37:13,867 --> 00:37:15,000 [Amy] What's the issue? 879 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,367 Oh, no issue. 880 00:37:16,367 --> 00:37:18,433 [chuckles] I'm in heaven. 881 00:37:27,266 --> 00:37:29,100 Really? 882 00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,266 What did you say, babe? 883 00:37:30,266 --> 00:37:31,767 -I-- -What'd you say about me? 884 00:37:31,767 --> 00:37:33,333 I have no idea what he's talking about. 885 00:37:34,567 --> 00:37:35,567 [Amy] Tell me the truth. 886 00:37:35,567 --> 00:37:38,500 Um, yeah. Apparently, you know, 887 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:40,166 Matt and I both, uh, 888 00:37:40,867 --> 00:37:42,266 think that it's kind of, 889 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,100 I don't know. 890 00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:46,200 Maybe a little irritating 891 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,166 that you're always leaving doors 892 00:37:48,166 --> 00:37:50,100 and drawers open, for no reason! 893 00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:51,467 You grab something, 894 00:37:51,467 --> 00:37:54,467 and then you just walk away, and leave the door open! 895 00:37:54,467 --> 00:37:56,867 Well, I leave it open because I have to go back and shut it 896 00:37:56,867 --> 00:37:57,967 when I return the item there-- 897 00:37:57,967 --> 00:38:00,500 But it could be weeks before you go back! 898 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:01,867 In the meantime, 899 00:38:01,867 --> 00:38:04,300 I'm tripping over an open door! 900 00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:05,567 -You know? -You know what? 901 00:38:05,567 --> 00:38:08,166 Those incidents rarely happen, 902 00:38:08,166 --> 00:38:11,667 -and when they do, I think they're blown out of-- -[groans] Oh my god. 903 00:38:11,667 --> 00:38:13,300 ...blown out of proportion! 904 00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:14,567 Rare? Oh. 905 00:38:14,567 --> 00:38:17,367 I think I know BS when I see it, most of the time. 906 00:38:18,467 --> 00:38:20,867 Well, we'll see how this fundraiser goes. 907 00:38:20,867 --> 00:38:23,533 Are you into helping, or being with me on it? 908 00:38:24,166 --> 00:38:26,066 I mean, I've been trying. 909 00:38:26,066 --> 00:38:27,767 What more would you like me to do? 910 00:38:27,767 --> 00:38:29,400 [Amy] Well, once I get a date, 911 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,900 maybe think about a few people 912 00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:33,400 that maybe would be interested in coming. 913 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,900 [Chris] Amy and I are talking about, uh, doing a charity event. 914 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:38,100 Amy has in the past, 915 00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,867 and now I'm finally at that point in life 916 00:38:39,867 --> 00:38:42,700 where I wanna start doing some more charitable work, and giving back. 917 00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:44,266 And so far, it's been kind of fun. 918 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,166 [Amy] And then the, um, 919 00:38:46,166 --> 00:38:47,867 things that I was thinking about raising money for, 920 00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:50,000 I think it's just easier to do it 921 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,200 for organizations I'm familiar with. 922 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,900 And that is DAAA. 923 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,066 What does the DAAA stand for? 924 00:38:57,066 --> 00:38:59,300 Dwarf Athletic Association of America. 925 00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:02,867 So the charity we're supporting is DAAA. 926 00:39:03,967 --> 00:39:05,567 [Amy] There you go! You're picking it up! 927 00:39:05,567 --> 00:39:08,200 [Amy] It formed back in 1985, 928 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,567 to give the opportunity for dwarves 929 00:39:10,567 --> 00:39:13,567 to really compete in sports. 930 00:39:13,567 --> 00:39:14,667 We have national games, 931 00:39:14,667 --> 00:39:17,467 we compete, we have, uh, medals. 932 00:39:17,467 --> 00:39:20,900 There's a, uh, international dwarf games. 933 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:22,567 It's a wonderful organization, 934 00:39:22,567 --> 00:39:25,033 and now that I have grandchildren, 935 00:39:25,567 --> 00:39:26,867 um, it's an organization 936 00:39:26,867 --> 00:39:28,867 I'll be with, you know, forever. 937 00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:31,000 Can you handle me being in charge? 938 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,467 I don't mind you being in charge. 939 00:39:32,467 --> 00:39:34,967 But I don't wanna be a mute gopher for you. 940 00:39:34,967 --> 00:39:36,667 -[Amy laughs] -You just want my mouth shut, 941 00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:39,300 and just do whatever you point and tell me to do. 942 00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:42,266 This will be our first time collaborating on anything like this, 943 00:39:42,266 --> 00:39:44,166 so if I'm gonna be a part of this event, 944 00:39:44,166 --> 00:39:46,567 I actually wanna be a part of the meetings, too. 945 00:39:46,567 --> 00:39:48,467 Obviously, you can really, you know, 946 00:39:48,467 --> 00:39:50,000 only have one chief when it comes to 947 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,867 planning any kind of special event, 948 00:39:51,867 --> 00:39:53,200 I just wanna be able to, 949 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,100 you know, throw some of my own creative ideas and input into it, 950 00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,867 and be proactive, 951 00:39:57,867 --> 00:40:00,367 rather than just being reactive 952 00:40:00,367 --> 00:40:02,000 to whatever the boss says. 953 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,767 I gotta pick a date. 954 00:40:03,767 --> 00:40:05,500 I thought Matt only had one date available, 955 00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:06,867 which I still think he does. 956 00:40:06,867 --> 00:40:09,100 Or he has another date, I don't know. I gotta see. 957 00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:11,767 Matt offered the farm up, to, you know, 958 00:40:11,767 --> 00:40:15,066 host this, so, you know, that was, checkmark, 959 00:40:15,066 --> 00:40:16,500 you know, a done deal. 960 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:19,467 I think the farm was a good option, 961 00:40:19,467 --> 00:40:21,667 because it's not taking anything 962 00:40:21,667 --> 00:40:23,367 out of the budget or cost, 963 00:40:23,367 --> 00:40:25,400 and I'm familiar with the venue. 964 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,066 It's a beautiful, interesting place 965 00:40:27,066 --> 00:40:28,767 -for almost any event. -[Amy] Yeah. 966 00:40:30,867 --> 00:40:32,967 I think the biggest thing is, um... 967 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,166 ...do I wanna go down this road again? 968 00:40:38,166 --> 00:40:41,367 Having it at the farm, and with them. 969 00:40:41,367 --> 00:40:44,166 [Amy] I think the place I'm at with Matt and Caryn, 970 00:40:44,166 --> 00:40:46,200 is a little more neutral right now. 971 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,200 But Matt and I have history, 972 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,367 And, you know, history sometimes stays with you. 973 00:40:51,367 --> 00:40:52,600 It wasn't always pleasant, 974 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,500 and Matt has a harder time when someone else is in charge, 975 00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:59,066 and so, we'll see how smoothly it goes. 976 00:41:01,867 --> 00:41:04,100 [narrator] Next, on Little People, Big World... 977 00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:05,367 Go get Mom's suitcase! 978 00:41:05,367 --> 00:41:07,100 Thank you! That's so helpful. 979 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,967 Now that Zach is feeling better, doing better, 980 00:41:09,967 --> 00:41:12,467 I'm gonna go out of town with two of my girlfriends. 981 00:41:12,467 --> 00:41:14,567 [Zach] I'm not, like, nervous, it's just, you know, 982 00:41:14,567 --> 00:41:17,767 you're diving in for three days, of, like, who knows what. 983 00:41:17,767 --> 00:41:19,100 [Zach] All right Jackson, you ready to roll? 984 00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,767 Let's go do your hair! 985 00:41:20,767 --> 00:41:23,700 Lilah. Find your shoes. 986 00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:26,467 I mean, a lot of things can happen in 72 hours. 987 00:41:26,467 --> 00:41:28,266 -[Lilah] No! -[Zach] Lilah... 988 00:41:28,266 --> 00:41:30,066 -[screaming] -[Zach] Lilah. Lilah! Jackson! 989 00:41:30,066 --> 00:41:31,367 -[crying] -[Zach] Jackson! 990 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:34,500 Thank you! 991 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:35,967 Chris and I were thinking about 992 00:41:35,967 --> 00:41:39,066 maybe to put on a small little charity function. 993 00:41:39,066 --> 00:41:41,600 Are Matt and Caryn participating in this too? 994 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,667 I would assume so. 995 00:41:42,667 --> 00:41:44,367 He's gonna wanna be in charge. 996 00:41:44,367 --> 00:41:45,967 That's his farm now. 997 00:41:45,967 --> 00:41:48,467 -Who's gonna be in charge-- -Me! Me. 998 00:41:48,467 --> 00:41:50,967 Girlfriend, let me tell you something. 999 00:41:50,967 --> 00:41:52,867 -[Amy] No. They said-- -That is not your farm. 1000 00:41:52,867 --> 00:41:54,467 I am running the show. 1001 00:41:54,467 --> 00:41:57,467 When it comes to the charity and how it's gonna be run, 1002 00:41:57,467 --> 00:41:58,634 we'll do it my way. 1003 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,467 We got a date blocked out. 1004 00:42:00,467 --> 00:42:02,000 Well, from what you told me, 1005 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,066 there's no other dates available. 1006 00:42:04,066 --> 00:42:06,100 They were very sparse, yes. 1007 00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:08,567 Well, is there any way that you can check these dates? 1008 00:42:08,567 --> 00:42:10,767 [Matt] Amy's made it very clear that she's in charge. 1009 00:42:10,767 --> 00:42:14,900 Amy, if you're lucky, I'll let you plan my fundraiser. [chuckles] 1010 00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:16,667 -This is gonna be fun. -[Matt chuckling] Yes. 1011 00:42:16,667 --> 00:42:18,567 [Matt] I loved the idea 1012 00:42:18,567 --> 00:42:20,266 of this party being out here. 1013 00:42:20,266 --> 00:42:22,367 [Caryn] Okay, that is not the indication 1014 00:42:22,367 --> 00:42:25,000 you gave multiple times!