[narrator] Previously on Little People, Big World...
[woman speaking]
Clunky, slow.
-Clueless. -Clueless.
[woman speaking]
I don't know if she's a dancer.
We'll see.
-Matt and Caryn are engaged. -[Amy] I know.
-Oh my God. -What the heck?
How does it change the dynamic on the farm?
Like, when you go there,
does it feel weird to you, or--
Well, it's like a whole different lifetime.
It feels empty.
So maybe if we start just with a rough itinerary.
I will work on that.
We're hosting a DAAA fundraising event
along with Matt and Caryn.
We could definitely have a number of hiccups
that could make this very chaotic.
I still gotta go to some restaurants
and kinda build that up.
Amy is a little bit more haphazard, you know,
so we're letting her be in charge,
let her be the boss.
Being that my nature is to plan events,
it's gonna take a little extra effort for me
to just let it go.
But the menu, like, do you guys care?
I kinda wanna tweak it, though.
Whatever happens is fine.
It's on her shoulder.
[laughs]
[dramatic music playing]
[Caryn] Hey.
I bet it did. Okay. I got your pillow.
[Matthew] Well, my esophagus has been acting up
a little bit here and there.
It's been happening for a couple years.
What happens is seems sort of...
Seems like it's closed off at times.
Not every meal but, you know, not really sure
what brings it on.
You know, I'm not sure if it's...
I'm eating too fast or too much,
but it gets mad.
The esophagus gets very angry very quickly
and generates phlegm.
[groans]
I don't need anything right now.
Are you sure?
Why don't you take a little sip?
It bubbles up like a volcano until it comes out
-and you're, like... -It's shocking.
-It's actually shocking.
It's very, very dramatic.
So this doctor, you know, recommended us,
we need to go down there with the scope,
you know, then they saw that it was real tight,
so they wanted to stretch it
so the food would go down a little easier.
Very routine procedure.
And that didn't... It didn't go as planned.
That was kind of traumatic.
I don't remember much.
I know. You were, like, out.
[sighs]
What happened?
Well, they had told me several hours, right?
'Cause you got sedated and you were gonna...
They were gonna do the test.
And then, I walked downstairs to get coffee
and my cell phone rang and they're, like,
"He's out, you can come back."
And then, the doctor came in and said,
"There's been a complication.
We're concerned that
we may have perforated his esophagus."
-And that's why they... -I remember...
-rushed their test. -everybody being panicked.
I remember that.
I remember the panic in the room.
It was just... It was a weird vibe.
-And so... -Yeah.
I said, "Okay, what happens now?"
And they said, "We're gonna do a test
that will tell us if we perforated the wall."
They did the test and you were drinking this stuff,
and I was watching.
They let me stay in there and I could see,
I thought, "Oh God."
And so as you drank it, you know, it went down
and they did it to you, like, three or four times,
they had you take sips
and it didn't show a perforation.
But I could tell that the doctor thought that
that could have happened.
It was honestly, in the end, more of an emotional
sort of experience than physical.
Once we found out that he...
They did not perforate the esophagus,
and that we had dodged that bullet
'cause that could have been very dangerous.
So it was... It...
We got through it, but it's definitely opened up
a lot of future conversations that we're having
about how we would handle health issues for both of us.
When she came in and she asked me if I was your proctor
that could make that decision for you
because you were still so sedated,
and that freaked me out.
I don't know if I am.
So now that we're engaged,
we need to get that dialed in.
It's scary for anybody who goes in for a routine
and something happens.
It's more scary when you have a little person
because the doctors may not be familiar
with everything going on.
Things can go wrong very quickly.
Any kind of anesthesia, there's more risk.
Everything just has an extra layer it can be dealt with.
But in a crisis situation,
it's not easy to just make a quick decision.
One other thing that he did say
was that you have a lot of damage from acid reflux.
They didn't need to measure it
because they already can see the damage that it's caused.
So old Matt Roloff is gonna die from esophagitis.
No.
-That's what gonna get me. -I don't think so.
-I'm not-- -But gosh,
-nothing's ever just... -I thought I was...
-simple... -gonna get hit by a tractor.
and easy-breezy
with you, it was, like,
chaos and drama and oh my gosh,
-I was so scared. -Oh boy.
But he did say that you should feel better
because where it was so tight,
you know, he was able to stretch it.
Apparently, he might've went too far.
Luckily, he didn't go through and perforate,
but he, it must have got it open so you shouldn't have,
you know, the symptoms.
I feel like, you know, with us being engaged
and definitely planning to spend the rest of our my life together,
I'm taking it a little more seriously.
Like, I wanna be prepared
in case something should come up.
So whether he was a dwarf or not,
I don't know that I would be behaving
any different other than
a little more information needs to be gathered
and thought through.
One of the most interesting things,
I don't know if you remember this,
your actual esophagus...
-Mmm-hmm. -is average size.
Average size?
You do not have a little person esophagus.
-It's crammed in there? -It's kinked.
So a normal esophagus, you know, is...
Goes straight down and you have a diaphragm,
then your stomach.
So he said yours is longer
than your body can handle.
So it's pushed to the side.
Yeah. My guts are squished.
[laughs]
It all makes sense and...
You know, yeah, and something...
It's too much, you know, packed into.
You know, there's too much Matt Roloff.
-Too much goodness in there. -Yeah.
Poor little esophagus all crammed in there and...
-I feel like... -kinked over.
I went in... I went in all good
-and came out all bad. -No.
I mean, what's up with that?
No, you didn't come out all bad
but, I mean, at least now you know
why you're having those spells,
'cause those spells are scary.
-Okay. -I'm sorry.
Well, let's just...
Let's just take a breath.
-Relax. -Yeah.
-You know. -Okay. All right.
Why don't you close your eyes for a little bit?
-Yeah. -Okay?
Thank you for taking me. That was nice of you.
-You're welcome. -Bet your whole good morning.
Just holler if you need something.
[upbeat music playing]
[Zach] Jackson, where's your insect thing?
[Jackson speaking]
[Zach speaking]
Why are you crying over it?
Because it's our baby.
Jackson's kindergarten graduation,
it went really well,
but it was a little tough for me.
-He's grown so much... -[Zach] Yeah.
-So much. -[Tori] in a year.
[Zach] And every now and then we'll look at,
like, old videos of him
and be, like, oh my gosh. So--
[Tori] That, like, chubby baby fat is gone
-and he's just... -Just different...
-like a kid. -personality. Yeah.
He's a person now.
Jackson, you did two school reports this year.
What was your first report on?
[Jackson speaking]
And what was your second report on?
Not only are you cooler than I was at your age.
Not... You're better at soccer and you're smarter...
-Is he better at soccer? -than I was at your age.
Oh yeah. He's so much better than me, when...
-Wait. Really? -Oh, yeah.
You kidding me? I didn't score my first outdoor goal
until I was in high school.
Okay.
[Zach] I was very different than Jackson as a kid.
I was very shy, timid.
Yeah, I didn't like heights, or the dark, or people.
Like I didn't like much of anything.
Should we compare soccer trophies?
Um, Lilah needs to show her trophy.
Lilah, you get a trophy?
Do you wanna go get it?
Okay, Lilah, go get your trophy
and bring it out here, okay?
But be very careful.
Yeah. Lilah, go show us your trophy.
Don't drop it.
[Jackson] If you drop it,
it's all done.
-[Tori] All done. -Okay. Go get it.
Oh my. I am obsessed with her.
Is she serious?
[Zach] Lilah had her very first dance recital
on a big stage in front of a huge crowd
and she did awesome.
[crowd cheering]
-Yes. -She went out.
-She did great. -She did it, like, yeah.
-Fantastic. -Yeah.
[crowd cheering]
[Tori] Dance has, I think, grown her confidence immensely.
She loves dance.
We both just really wanted something
that would socialize Lilah as well,
like, get her out with the kids her age
and, like, just in a new situation.
And it was something that she took ownership of
and had a ton of fun with.
[crowd cheering]
[Zach] Look at her hold it.
Look at that mood.
[Tori] Wow.
-What is that? -Can I see it?
-Is this for dancing? -[Tori gasps]
What's on top?
Is that a ballerina?
The whole day was slightly terrifying.
-Yeah. -Like, I don't know
if I wanna do it again.
-But she did it... -Perfect.
-and she rocked it. -Yeah.
And she was so cute.
[Zach] You guys ready for summer?
[Jackson speaking]
Jackson, what do you wanna do this summer?
-[Zach] Every night? -Yes.
-No. -Every single night?
You can't have daddy every night.
That's not fair.
-Right? -[Zach] Should we get mom...
-I'll put it right here, okay. -to camp out with us?
You guys have a friend named mom that likes to camp?
Camping in my backyard
when I'm a hundred yards away from my bed
is not my ideal situation.
I got you the nicest cot.
Babe, a cot is not nice that...
You can't use those adjectives...
-Cot. -in the same sentence, like--
That's because you guys both weigh 50 pounds.
You weigh 20 pounds, you weigh 50 pounds.
Mom weighs this... Like, I'm not gonna say
how much I weigh but in a cot...
-130? -it's just not...
Okay, Zach, can you shush up...
-130. -over there?
-Was that right? -No.
-Like way off? -Way off, honey.
I weighed a hundred thirty, like, in high school.
Sure. We'll go with that.
Lilah, are you gonna camp out with us?
I did this growing up. We all camped out together
and it's a fun thing to do for all families.
I think, all families should put themselves
all in a tent for the night and, you know,
I think it's a good experience,
and I think the kids will remember it.
And it's always just good to be together
as a family like that.
Well, we're gonna make you a comfy spot
whether you like it or not,
and you can choose to sleep with us
-whether you like it or not. -[Tori] Okay.
-No! -[Jackson laughing]
What is that?
[laughter]
You got mom so good.
He just got me so good.
-[Zach] Is that snake skin? -Yes.
That was not very nice, Jackson.
[Zach] Let's go.
[Amy] Coming up.
So just out of curiosity,
who do you think will be taking care
of who as we get older?
Oh, I'm bringing someone in to take care of you.
How am I gonna take care of you?
If I need assistance, you're gonna hire it out?
[Jackson speaking]
[Matt] And later.
So how is it working with the house?
Oh, well you should know.
[Amy] For me it's still kind of awkward
to meet up with Caryn,
but it'll always impact me till the day I die.
[upbeat music playing]
[Amy] What are you doing Daisy May?
[Chris] She found something in that dirt to chew on.
You never know what that girl's gonna eat.
[Amy laughing]
Put these in here just in case.
-Look at that. -[Chris] Mmm-hmm.
-So my visit went well. -[Amy] Oh, did it?
Did you bring the gun?
-You brought the gun over? -[Chris] Yeah, yeah,
I showed him my new toy.
I went to the farm to talk to Matt
about the upcoming fundraiser
and I'll be helping out
setting up all the games.
-Does this look Western? -Oh, my goodness.
[Chris] I kinda like the idea of having a shooting gallery
because it's a western thing,
you know, like, uh, like you'd see in a carnival.
Check this out. Because, yeah, I want to try to get something...
-[Matt] Yeah. -to go with the western thing.
-Yeah, that's... -So it's a Nerf gun,
but the Nerf things are loaded into these shotgun shells.
Oh my goodness. Aren't those cute?
Now watch this, just like a real shotgun.
-Oh, yeah. -Ain't that cool?
That gives you the...
-That is cool. -Yeah.
So I am gonna go ahead and build a shooting gallery,
and he's gonna let me use the tools
and leftover lumber stuff out there.
Well, good. I'm glad that'll work.
He was talking okay.
I thought with, uh, you know...
-[Amy] Oh, yeah. How is that going? -the surgery going down?
I... You know, I guess it went okay.
So what he found out is that he has...
His esophagus, it's the same size as an average person's.
-It's too big... -Oh.
for his body, and so there's a kink in it.
Yeah, he's... You know, he... He's... He...
He's a different type of dwarfism and I mean, he...
-He's run into some problems. -Mmm-hmm.
And, you know, later on in life,
all our bodies change, but--
Caryn was a good support there.
We kinda got into a conversation, you know.
So just out of curiosity,
who do you think will be taking care of who as we get older?
Oh, I'm bringing someone in to take care of you.
How am I gonna take care of you?
I can bring you soup. I can bring you a drink.
Really? If I need assistance, you're gonna hire it out?
No, I... But I mean, I can't,
like, lift you, I can't, you know,
-do any of that stuff. -[Chris] That's true.
Well, It's okay, hon. I'm bulletproof.
I'll be taking care of you.
Are you up for that?
Sure.
[Amy] I mean, there's really no comparison
between Matt and Chris
because when you're born
with dwarfism and stuff,
you kind of already know some point in your life
that you're gonna be dealing with some health concerns.
But with Chris, you know,
he's just like average Joe Blow,
and bulletproof and rarely ever sick.
And so, hopefully, he'll be able to handle it if I am.
It is in the back of my mind.
I just know so many other people
with achondroplasia dwarfism
that they've had surgery and they're doing better,
but it's forever changed.
I definitely worry a little bit about my own limitations
and, you know, the impact that if I have to have surgery,
what would that look like?
How would that be?
How would that change my lifestyle,
but also our lifestyle and just living together?
I just hope it's not to the extent
where, you know, Chris has to take care of everything.
Yours seems to be starting in your neck.
-Yeah. -Do you think that's a start
of something more serious?
I hope not,
but achondroplasia dwarfism
have a history of spinal stenosis.
Spinal stenosis is the tightening
around your spinal cord.
A lot of archons have a smaller space
between the vertebraes,
so it tightens up the spinal cord.
Then you can have numbness,
you can have pain,
you can have lack of movement.
That to me is pretty serious.
And mine may be happening in the neck first,
which is to me the worst part.
I don't know, babe, but that's not good.
[Chris] I'm just not the type to worry about something
that hasn't happened yet.
You know, I just always,
you know, assume or hope for the best,
but, you know, I won't have any trouble adapting
-if something-- -You mean you'll take care of me?
Absolutely, hon. You know, I--
You'll carry me up the stairs if you have to?
Or turn the office into a bedroom.
[laughter]
[Amy] It's like having your favorite old car
and it's like, I will do anything to keep it...
lubricated and moving and...
You know, all of that stuff.
-Put oil in it. Do all that. -Yeah.
-And so that's like us. -Am I your old car, babe?
You're gonna make sure that I lubricated and keep moving.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, babe.
[laughter]
You're so silly. You're so silly.
[upbeat music playing]
Let me make sure Lila doesn't see this stuff.
I'm gonna surprise her, okay?
Look at her. She's got all these little cool things.
[Jackson speaking]
Because we need her to like camping, okay?
And she's not gonna like it
unless she has a bunch of fun stuff, okay?
-What's that? -Her own little table,
just like you have your own little table, okay?
Yeah.
We're gonna camp out as a family for the first time.
The entire family in the tent in the backyard,
and so we're gonna try to make the tent
very friendly for Lilah and Tori.
-Mommy. -[Jackson speaking]
No, don't show her.
Lilah look. Look at your pool.
[gasps] Look all that stuff.
[Zach] Lilah's never camped out.
So we got her, her own cot,
very colorful own sleeping bag,
some lamps, a new blankie, her own little table.
So she'll have her own little space
that she can say, "This is mine, mine, mine."
And then, Tori gets her brand new cot,
splurged a little bit and got her a mat on top of the cot.
We'll hope that she's comfortable as well
and hangs out with us.
Mom's cots probably gonna take up all this room,
so Josiah might have to be right here.
Okay.
I have zero expectations.
No offense.
-Gosh. -[laughs]
[Tori] Okay. To be fair, though,
my camping experiences with you
also have been so bad.
Like the last trip with your old roommate,
you guys picked a lake that was infested
with mosquitoes, infested.
So that was already... I'm like, I'm done.
But then you guys took the boat out
and I got left on the shore
for, like, a solid three hours
and, like, by the time everyone came back in,
they were all too tired to go back out,
so I never got to go on the boat.
And then, we're all sitting around the fire making dinner
and they were making beans in a can
that they didn't poke any holes in it,
and so there was nowhere for the air to be released.
It exploded in the pot and it hit me.
And so, I got like...
I thought I was gonna need stitches.
I got a huge cut on my leg
and I got hot beans all over me,
huge gash in my leg.
And that was the last camping trip I've been on.
Oh, it was the worst. It was the worst.
Will you still ride a horse with me
even if I don't camp out tonight?
-No. -What?
What kind of horse?
A ponytail horse?
Are we gonna do like a big horse
or a little one?
Oh no, we're doing a big one.
You're gonna do it with me.
It'll be safe.
You're kind of nervous?
Why are you nervous?
You are gonna be like a real cowboy at the end of it.
-[Jackson speaking] -[Tori] Okay, we gotta wait, Lilah.
This is mama's.
-[speaks indistinctly] -Okay.
This is Lilah's.
-[Jackson] We're ready! -[Zach] All right.
[Tori] Oh, wow.
[Zach] Right next to Jackson, nice and close.
[Tori] Wow.
[Jackson speaking]
-Lilah... -[Tori] This is pretty cool.
Lilah, are you gonna be able to sleep in that?
-[Lilah speaking] -Wait, that's so cute.
It's like low to the ground for her.
[Zach] Yeah.
[Tori] Look at it Lilah.
[Zach] Lilah, those are your flashlights.
[Tori] Lilah, look, you got your own sleeping bag.
[Zach] Lilah, how cool is that?
Jackson, we did awesome,
I think, setting up that for everyone.
I think everyone loved it. Secret handshake?
Oh, you guys have a secret handshake?
No, it's the other hand.
Now, it's not a secret.
-Everyone just saw it. -Stop.
Stop.
Oh, not everyone? Okay.
Wow, guys, this is impressive.
I like the little table.
Lilah's got her own little table for her wa wa.
This is pretty cool.
You guys did set it up really well.
I just... I wake up so tired in my own bed...
-[Zach] I know. -so I don't know how
tomorrow's gonna be if I sleep out here.
Yeah? You're not gonna do it with us?
I'll do it.
You have to ride a horse with me then.
-Yeah, I will. -Mom, can we cook this?
[Zach] All right.
Yeah, I struck a deal with my six-year-old
that if I camped out with the family,
that he would go horseback riding with me.
Game on, kid.
[chuckles]
[Matt] Coming up.
Jackson asked why Beckett couldn't play DAAA with him.
-Did I tell you this? -No.
And I said, because he's not a dwarf.
And then, he goes, "What?"
You know, the questions are gonna come
and the curiosity about themselves,
but I don't have it planned out in my head.
[upbeat music playing]
[Jackson speaking]
Wait, don't hit me, though.
I think it's going. Just let it...
Give it a minute.
Tonight is the first night
the entire family is gonna camp out together.
I'm excited. I think this will be fun.
-Good family memory. -Are you excited?
I'm excited. I'm excited.
I think all the kids are gonna love it.
They're gonna remember it, you know.
I think it's gonna be a good time.
[Zach] Jackson's very excited about camping,
and wants to show us all how to do it,
and what to do and I love it.
I love that he loves it so much
and he wants everyone else
to be just as excited as he is.
Get it, dude.
[Zach] Yeah.
[Lilah speaking]
[Tori] No, just eat your hotdog.
-[Zach] There's also-- -No, just eat your hotdog.
No.
Lilah's not gonna camp out tonight.
[Lilah] No.
[Zach] Lilah's kinda having a rough evening.
Very particular about how her hotdog is cooked
and she didn't take a nap earlier.
Si Si is apparently bullying her
and she doesn't like bugs or dust.
So I just feel like when it comes to Lilah and the outdoors,
she doesn't have the best of luck.
What are you doing?
Get unstuck.
Pull.
-[Zach laughs] -[Lilah cries]
Honestly, it's that one I'm more worried about.
[Lilah cries]
Unbelievable.
Yeah, she just has a tendency to...
-Injure herself. -injure, or trip,
or get scraped up.
You go play with Jackson in the tent, okay?
So yeah, the rest of this night could be...
Could be rough.
Tori, do you think Lilah's gonna need a surgery
-on that left leg, though? -Yeah.
What did the doctor say about it?
It's not as bad as J's, but she'll probably need help.
When though?
He didn't say.
[Zach] Lilah's legs are showing bowing,
like Jackson's were.
Whether it's as severe or not,
we don't know until we make measurements
and everything.
But she might have to have leg surgery as well.
Surgery is another...
That's a... That's a huge ball game.
You hope that's the only one that she needs.
Yeah.
I wonder if we'll see him in Austin, though.
All the doctors hang out, like I don't know where,
but like you'll probably see him,
like he'll be at a table like...
-Somewhere? -[Zach] Yeah.
And then, now you'll, like, register.
This year we're going to Austin
for the LPA/DAAA convention,
Little People of America and Dwarf Athletic Association.
One of the awesome things about LPA
is they bring in specialists on people with dwarfism
and, you know, give free clinics
and things of that nature.
So we might take it an opportunity
to have Lilah seen.
We'll see, though.
Jackson asked why Beckett couldn't play DAAA with him.
-Did I tell you this? -No.
And I said, because he's not a dwarf.
And then he goes, "What? I'm a dwarf?
-What does that mean?" -No, you did not...
-And, uh... -tell me this conversation.
[Zach] Yeah, straight up.
I had to have the dwarf talk with my son
way too early, you know.
Was he just like, oh, okay, and moved on, or--
[Zach] Kinda. He was like kinda just confused,
like, why aren't other people dwarfs?
I said, "You know, that's how God made you
and this and that."
But he was like totally fine with it? He was--
-[Zach] Yeah, he was... -[Tori] Okay.
[Zach] ...fine with it and everything,
but he kinda laughed, like
he almost thought I was, like, name calling him, you know.
He's like, I'm not a dwarf, you know, like...
It's not a conversation I'm prepared to have
but, you know, families have dwarfism.
Those moments come up
that you have to then talk about.
You know it's coming,
you know the questions are gonna come
and the curiosity about themselves,
but I don't have it planned out in my head,
it's just kinda however my kids bring it up,
because I don't think it's gonna be like a conversation.
I think it's gonna be, like, more like moments.
Tori, my philosophy on him and all of our kids
is I'm a big believer in the more we react to everything...
-Oh, yeah. -they're affected by it negatively
-because we're affected by it. -[Tori] Right.
So it's all about like,
when he does bring that stuff up,
-not overreacting-- -[Tori] Staying calm.
Not... It's not about us in that moment.
It's about the next 50 years for him,
you know what I'm saying?
How we react in these early ages...
-[Tori] Yeah. -affects how he deals with this
-for the rest of his life... -[Tori] Yeah.
you know what I'm saying?
When he asks me these questions
or tells me these things,
I'm obviously truthful,
but I am careful how I present myself.
I don't wanna show too much emotion
or make too big of a deal of it.
As parents, we project so much
of our own insecurities and just worries
that they shouldn't even think about it
for, like, 10 years.
My parents had the same sensitivity for sure.
And I just hope Tori and me
can help him mentally get through it,
can help him keep up.
Let's go inside, get jammies on.
-Let's all, like, go reconvene. -Yeah.
[Tori] We got to let Murph out to come eat this...
-[Zach] Yeah. -so there's no bears tonight.
Oh, we also have another kid.
-[Zach] Oh, hey, Si Si. -[Tori] Hi, Si.
[Amy] Coming up...
Did you hear about Matt's health scare?
-He's cried wolf so many times. -[Caryn chuckles]
No matter whatever happens,
Amy and I will have Matt in common,
the good, the bad, the whatever,
and so, I'll just leave it at that.
I think that probably says it all.
[upbeat music playing]
-Hello. What do you got? -[Amy] Geez.
Oh, you got all kinds of stuff. Here.
[Amy] No, I got it, because if...
-It will all fall-- -Okay.
[Amy] You know... You know those situations?
[Caryn] Yeah.
Here, let's start off in the barn.
Yeah.
I'm going to the farm today
to just meet up with Caryn
and go over some rough ideas
and plans for decorating.
How do we need to get the barn ready
for this fundraiser for DAAA,
which is in a month.
You go run around, Daisy.
This is your chance.
She's so cute.
[Amy] For me, it's still kind of awkward
to meet up with Caryn,
but we're also meeting up
with each other for a cause,
and you don't have to get into personal things
and, you know, go in that different space,
because it's not necessary.
It's doesn't serve anything.
Not that, you know, way back
in Matt and I's situation
that still doesn't have an impact on me
because, you know,
it'll always impact me till the day I die.
But, you know, you just do the best you can.
I think my main thing is I would really like to
get that barn cleared out as soon as we can.
Not, like, tomorrow,
but in the next couple of weeks,
because I wanna set up these tables
-and get a visual... -Got it.
and see what it's gonna look like.
Do we have enough room to pull out chairs and stuff?
[Caryn] Working with Amy is good.
She knows what she's doing.
She's done these events before.
She knows the farm.
She's got a good head on her shoulders.
I think there's been some history
where she had a lot of feelings
about the farm and her space
and I totally got that.
And so I'm just glad
that she made the choice
to embrace a relationship with Matt and I,
because it's made all of our lives easier.
And so I have a true respect for that maturity.
-Let's think about this. -Okay.
Um--
We'll get the bug out,
then we could have the two check-in booths,
maybe a table there and a table there.
They take care of it, and then once they walk in,
I don't know, the caterer is set up,
-there's a bar and then... -Yup.
-the tables. -[Amy] Yup. Yup.
We're all the team,
but Caryn's specific role is to,
I don't wanna say manage Matt,
but can you help him
like get the barn ready, remind Matt
that he's got to do this, this and this and that,
because that's not my job anymore.
I... I'm leaving that in her hands.
Oh, by the way, I bought treats.
Oh, you brought treats for us?
I thought they were for the dog.
[Amy] Well, I did for her too because...
Oh, that's the sweetest thing ever.
it's a forever toddler.
Daisy, she brought treats for you and me.
I've always liked Amy. I always think she's funny
and we kinda laugh at each other because we're...
You know, we're roughly the same age,
and we're both a little forgetful,
and maybe a little clumsy and...
I mean, for God sake,
we're both married to the same guy.
Oh, I'm not married yet but you know what I mean.
We've both been with Matt forever.
And no matter what ever happens,
Amy and I will have Matt in common,
the good, the bad, the whatever.
And so, I'll just leave it at that.
I think that probably says it all.
So how is it
-working with the house? -[Caryn] Oh.
Ooh, well you should know.
Of all people who can relate to my shoes,
it would be you, Ame. Thank you.
I mean, he can't make a decision.
[Amy laughs]
I know, he keeps saying I can.
It's like, yeah, I can.
-[Caryn] Right? -I say no.
-Right. -[Amy] But you didn't like it.
-[Caryn] It makes me the most crazy... -Okay. Chocolate croissant.
-Where'd your thing go? -Oh, right here.
Thank you. Oh, my gosh.
Going through a big project of building a house,
I've been there, been there, done that
with Matt on the two major remodels and other remodels.
And I can make a decision,
but I'm just not, you know,
because when you make a decision in a snap of a moment,
oftentimes you have to go back and change it,
you're gonna have to go back again and again.
I mean, who can function
in that kind of chaos half of the time?
It was funny to hear that some things haven't changed.
Did you hear about Matt's health scare?
Well, he mentioned it briefly
when we got together before, but--
It was, like, crazy
because they're like, "Okay. We had a complication."
And then, I'm trying to absorb all that,
and then the lady was like,
"What if he's not coherent
to make the decision to go back under?"
-Because he was on... -[Amy] Mmm-hmm.
sedation.
And that really hit me.
So I was like... They're like,
"Who is his person in charge?"
And I'm like, "I don't know."
I mean, "I guess, it's me, but I don't...
You know, legally, I'm...
I don't know. We're not married yet."
Well, it doesn't matter if you're married or not,
he can always designate anyone he wants.
-Right. But I didn't know. -[Amy] You know?
-[Caryn] It was scary. It's... It just... -Yeah.
goes to show that anything can happen at any time,
and you have to have these preparations in place.
[Amy] Yeah, you do. And you have to,
if something were to go wrong--
[Caryn] I mean, have you and Chris had those like con...
-Hard conversations? -A little bit.
[Caryn] 'Cause I...
Matt and I...
I mean he always says,
you know, I don't wanna linger.
That's what his word is. I don't wanna linger.
It's like, "Okay. Well, what does that mean?"
Listen, I've heard his story so many times.
-[Caryn] Oh, yeah. He-- -He's cried wolf so many times.
Is that when it actually happens, I'm like,
"Well, it's about time."
You know, like, "It's like okay."
You're still here.
I don't... I don't really get too shook up.
But then there's a part of you it's like,
"Well, is this it?"
When I say Matt cried wolf a lot,
it's not that something wasn't going on,
but just because you stubbed your toe
does not mean you're losing your leg.
So, when that happens so many of the times,
it's like, "Okay. Well, I'm not gonna come and run.
You'll be okay. You'll be fine."
But I've also know
that when we're entering
this season of life that we're in now,
some of those health scares
can become a lot more significant.
I don't think he cries wolf as much anymore
because it's more real.
So, are you ready for these later years,
taking care of someone who may need it?
Oh, good. I'm good. Thank you.
-No, you gotta have another one. -No, I can't have two.
Yes, you do. I'm having two.
I'm gonna have more berries.
No. You have another one and I'll have one.
-I'm having the other one. -Thank you.
-That's-- -This is... This is lunch.
-How about that? -[Caryn] Yeah.
You know, when you're young,
you don't think about being old, which is good.
-You don't think about-- -[Amy] Yeah.
-No, you shouldn't. -You know,
and just like Matt said,
"We could worry all about me and me being a dwarf,
and you could be the one that comes down
-with breast cancer." -[indistinct]
[Caryn] I mean, anything can happen.
And then, I don't think he could take care of me,
but he'd do what he does best. He'll hire somebody.
Yeah. Yeah.
So, you just kinda gotta go with each day we know,
but none of us know the future.
Uh-uh.
There are more complications when you know
that you have someone that has dwarfism
because there's always a little bit more risk.
But I can't fix dwarfism,
I can't fix anything that may happen with Matt,
but I can try to be prepared and I...
I'm in for the long haul.
I'm up for the challenge.
I can see that you didn't eat your croissant.
I mean, I got good half of it done.
-[Amy] Well... -I'm trying.
I'm gonna put the guilt trip on you because I ate mine.
Okay. Well, I'm not walking away from...
-[Amy] That's right. -this gazebo until this thing is gone.
[Amy] That's right.
So sweet that she brought these pastries
and so I didn't wanna like
stuff it in my pocket when she turned around.
You know, that would've been really weird.
We might be sitting here a while
-but I'm doing it. -[Amy] Mmm-hmm.
[Matthew] Coming up...
[Lilah crying]
Can you hand her a flashlight back, Jackson?
Let's go camping, they said,
it'll be fun!
[Lilah crying]
[Zach laughs]
[upbeat music playing]
[Zach] You guys ready to go back out?
-[Jackson speaking] -[Zach] All right.
Let's do it.
[Lilah] Yes!
When you're camping out, it's kinda tough to go to bed
here in the northwest because it stays light pretty late.
But we're gonna try to see if everyone wants to lie down.
[Tori] Here we go.
[Lilah crying]
[quirky music playing]
[Tori] Come here.
Come here. What happened?
[Lilah speaking]
[Tori speaking]
[Lilah] No.
[Tori speaking]
[Zach] Yeah, it's not a great start.
Lilah trips
and falls on her face and is pretty upset.
We haven't even made it off the patio yet.
Lilah just has these accidents that happen to her
and it's tough because she takes a long time to calm down.
[Lilah crying] Ow! Ow!
[Zach] Lilah.
[crying]
[Zach] Lilah?
Can you hand her a flashlight, Jackson?
Let's go camping, they said, it'll be fun!
Originally, I wasn't worried about Lilah
spending the night out there.
I was worried about myself.
I was worried about how I was gonna wake up the next day.
That's what I was worried about.
But here we are.
[Jackson speaking]
No. I think Lila's been tortured enough tonight.
[Zach] Can you lie in your bed?
[Lilah speaking]
I'll help you.
-Lilah, where's-- -Ready? Get in.
-Where's your water? -Get in.
Your little table.
[Lilah crying]
Lilah finally gets in bed, and then she hits her table
and the water bowl comes down and hits her in the face,
and she's pretty upset about it.
Get your feet up.
-[crying] -[Zach] No. No.
-Lilah. Lilah. -[crying]
-Okay. Then we're gonna go outside. -Hey. Hey.
Just the boys!
[Zach] Mom's not coming back.
It's not happening.
I don't think mom's worried about that right now.
[Zach laughs]
[Jackson speaking]
Lilah was so uncomfortable
and I felt bad for her,
and I was just kinda at this point
where I'm like, "I'm not gonna force her
to sit out here and camp."
Well, I'm just gonna try again.
I took her inside.
She was in her bed for a couple minutes,
was able to calm down, and then she decided
that she wanted to come back out
and try it again.
[Zach] You're gonna sleep?
You wanna sleep with Da-da?
I think Tori taking Lilah inside
and just reset the night for her.
[laughs] Yeah.
[Zach] All right. Ready.
[quirky music playing]
[Tori] Josiah woke up in the middle of the night with a dirty diaper.
And so I had to leave with him,
but I think he would've made it
had he not gotten a gross diaper.
[Zach] Yes, he would've definitely made it.
[Tori] He would've totally made it.
[birds chirping]
[upbeat music playing]
I was actually very into camping.
Yeah, Tori got into it, okay?
She was a good spirit about it.
[Tori] I could have stayed out there all night long.
[Lilah] Pee.
I think camping is... Definitely, it's not about
being comfortable and it's not smooth sailing.
It's for sure about, like,
the experience, being together.
And honestly, not being super comfortable
and, like, things going the same, you know?
I think that's what camping's all about.
So, this is all just part of the adventure and memory.
What's up, dude?
[Zach] Josiah.
[Jackson speaking]
[narrator] Next on Little People, Big World...
[Zach] All right, Jackson, you ready to go, bud?
[Tori] Are you nervous?
Jackson said he was nervous, which is...
I mean, he's never done it before.
I don't blame him for being a little nervous.
It's a big animal.
You good, J?
Our event is here.
I need stuff gone from here
at least by midweek.
We're hosting a DAAA fundraising event.
There's certain things that we need to get done
in a matter of like a week-and-a-half, two weeks.
You're not moving any more of my stuff, are you?
You know that she didn't do that, right?
-[Amy] I didn't do-- -No. And she gave the...
-Gave the guys instructions. -No, I did not.
-[Chris] No, she didn't. -No, I did not.
[Matthew] I had specific instructions
that were different than what happened,
so I don't know why all of a sudden
she's all miss deniability, you know?
Are the kids coming to the fundraiser?
You know, Zach and Tori said, no.
I'm very disappointed, honestly.
I didn't ask them, Amy did,
but they came up with some reason.
It's an unfortunate thing.
[dramatic music playing]