1 00:00:01,410 --> 00:00:02,292 [Amy] Previously on Little People, Big World... 2 00:00:05,214 --> 00:00:06,755 [Zach] Oh, yeah, yeah. 3 00:00:07,717 --> 00:00:08,990 [nurse] What is it? 4 00:00:08,992 --> 00:00:13,595 [Zach] It's a boy, it's a boy! It's a boy. 5 00:00:13,672 --> 00:00:14,972 Yeah, Josiah's a little person, 6 00:00:15,016 --> 00:00:17,516 has achondroplasia like his siblings, 7 00:00:17,593 --> 00:00:20,477 and yeah, now there's four of us. 8 00:00:20,512 --> 00:00:22,146 My little dwarf tribe. 9 00:00:22,148 --> 00:00:23,856 -Yeah, my tribe. -[Tori] Posse. 10 00:00:23,858 --> 00:00:25,149 [Zach] My army, my posse. 11 00:00:25,192 --> 00:00:26,382 [Tori] Thank you guys for being 12 00:00:26,384 --> 00:00:29,028 such good, good brothers and sister. 13 00:00:30,072 --> 00:00:31,864 [Chris] How long you think it'll be 14 00:00:31,940 --> 00:00:33,866 before we can get all the family back together 15 00:00:33,942 --> 00:00:36,702 for, like, a holiday gathering and that sort of thing? 16 00:00:36,704 --> 00:00:38,111 Probably say five years. 17 00:00:38,188 --> 00:00:39,788 -Really? You think it'll be that long? -Mmm-hmm. 18 00:00:39,865 --> 00:00:41,206 Must be some hurt feelings 19 00:00:41,283 --> 00:00:42,708 if you think it'll take that long. 20 00:00:43,586 --> 00:00:45,753 This was something that I think hit to the core 21 00:00:45,755 --> 00:00:48,338 and so I think that's hard 22 00:00:48,340 --> 00:00:50,716 just to sweep it underneath the rug and say, 23 00:00:50,793 --> 00:00:51,884 "Okay, yeah, it's all good." 24 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,471 I think it'll take time for them. 25 00:00:55,547 --> 00:00:57,347 [Caryn] Well, cheers to you, boss. 26 00:00:57,391 --> 00:01:01,226 You pulled it off. You always do. 27 00:01:01,303 --> 00:01:04,146 The farm's officially been on the market for a few days now. 28 00:01:04,223 --> 00:01:06,732 I think the relationship with Zach kind of set back 29 00:01:06,809 --> 00:01:08,150 with me putting the farm on the market, 30 00:01:08,227 --> 00:01:10,694 and him not feeling like it was done properly. 31 00:01:10,696 --> 00:01:13,155 [Caryn] At some point, you and Zach 32 00:01:13,232 --> 00:01:15,282 need to have another conversation. 33 00:01:15,284 --> 00:01:17,493 Maybe he needs to hear that you're sorry 34 00:01:17,578 --> 00:01:18,935 it didn't work out. 35 00:01:18,937 --> 00:01:19,986 [Zach] Since the farm announcement, 36 00:01:19,988 --> 00:01:21,497 we haven't seen much of my dad. 37 00:01:21,573 --> 00:01:24,541 In my mind, we, like... My dad screwed the family. 38 00:01:24,585 --> 00:01:26,752 And, you know, he's playing victim. 39 00:01:26,829 --> 00:01:32,091 I, like, I would look at it like farm's done. 40 00:01:46,524 --> 00:01:51,110 [children babbling] 41 00:01:54,657 --> 00:01:56,698 [shouting] Ah! 42 00:01:57,827 --> 00:02:00,744 [Zach] Oh, oh, oh, okay. Okay. 43 00:02:00,788 --> 00:02:03,330 She just headbutted him. 44 00:02:03,407 --> 00:02:06,792 It's just been over two weeks since we brought Josiah home, 45 00:02:06,910 --> 00:02:08,293 and it's been going great. 46 00:02:08,295 --> 00:02:09,503 You know, it's an infant, 47 00:02:09,580 --> 00:02:11,255 it's a newborn in the house, you know. 48 00:02:11,298 --> 00:02:13,882 [Tori] I feel it's our, like... it's my niche, 49 00:02:13,884 --> 00:02:15,759 like I... this is where I wanna be. 50 00:02:15,761 --> 00:02:17,719 There's nothing I'd rather be doing 51 00:02:17,796 --> 00:02:21,265 other than hanging out with three little kids. 52 00:02:24,186 --> 00:02:26,770 [Tori] Jackson, what's been your favorite part 53 00:02:26,772 --> 00:02:28,230 about being a big brother? 54 00:02:28,232 --> 00:02:30,232 Again. 55 00:02:30,234 --> 00:02:32,234 You're good at helping Josiah, huh? 56 00:02:33,529 --> 00:02:35,654 [Zach] Pretty much all of my immediate family 57 00:02:35,656 --> 00:02:37,114 has met Josiah now, 58 00:02:37,158 --> 00:02:40,576 my mom, my dad and my siblings. 59 00:02:40,578 --> 00:02:44,454 But we don't have plans for Caryn to meet Josiah. 60 00:02:44,498 --> 00:02:46,206 There still hasn't been any recognization 61 00:02:46,283 --> 00:02:47,916 from Caryn or my dad. 62 00:02:47,918 --> 00:02:49,877 Like, they still think they did nothing wrong. 63 00:02:49,953 --> 00:02:53,088 Which, like, I don't see how Caryn doesn't see this, like, 64 00:02:53,165 --> 00:02:55,924 my dad put her in a situation also where it's like, 65 00:02:56,010 --> 00:02:57,426 you got into family business here. 66 00:02:57,502 --> 00:03:00,554 Family is always gonna be, like... 67 00:03:00,631 --> 00:03:02,264 It's gonna be different than when someone else 68 00:03:02,341 --> 00:03:03,515 rubs you the wrong way. 69 00:03:03,592 --> 00:03:05,809 But I don't excuse my dad, like, 70 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:07,477 I hold my dad responsible 71 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:10,314 for that breakdown in that relationship. 72 00:03:12,776 --> 00:03:14,276 [Tori] She's just trying to hold his hand. 73 00:03:14,278 --> 00:03:16,236 [Zach laughing] Oh, wait. 74 00:03:16,238 --> 00:03:17,587 Only Daddy can say that. 75 00:03:17,589 --> 00:03:19,323 -[Tori] "No, no, no, no." -[Zach] Yeah, what? 76 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:21,366 Who makes you the authority? 77 00:03:21,443 --> 00:03:23,452 -No, no, no, no. -Jackson, let her, let her. 78 00:03:23,528 --> 00:03:24,828 [Tori] Oh, and he holds his hand? 79 00:03:24,872 --> 00:03:25,913 Yeah, look at this. 80 00:03:25,989 --> 00:03:29,124 I can never deny Matt and Caryn 81 00:03:29,201 --> 00:03:30,918 that they were amazing to us, 82 00:03:30,994 --> 00:03:33,170 that they helped us through many times. 83 00:03:33,172 --> 00:03:35,756 I mean, the kids loved them 84 00:03:35,832 --> 00:03:37,841 But no matter what, 85 00:03:37,885 --> 00:03:41,428 when you have two adults, and there's kids involved, 86 00:03:41,505 --> 00:03:45,390 if those two adults don't get along well, 87 00:03:45,467 --> 00:03:47,267 the relationship with the kids is gonna suffer. 88 00:03:47,269 --> 00:03:49,353 [Zach] Lilah, I don't know if he needs that right now. 89 00:03:49,355 --> 00:03:51,146 I don't think he needs his bink right now, Lize. 90 00:03:51,148 --> 00:03:52,314 [Jackson speaking] 91 00:03:52,391 --> 00:03:55,400 [whispering] 92 00:04:01,784 --> 00:04:03,075 [Tori] Secrets don't make friends. 93 00:04:03,151 --> 00:04:05,160 [Zach] Yeah, what was that? 94 00:04:05,237 --> 00:04:07,871 I definitely think Jackson and Lilah have gotten closer 95 00:04:07,873 --> 00:04:09,831 -since Josiah's come into the picture. -Yeah. 96 00:04:09,866 --> 00:04:11,083 Which I think we were really worried about, 97 00:04:11,085 --> 00:04:12,834 'cause they have such a good bond, 98 00:04:12,911 --> 00:04:14,419 that we were kinda worried about, like, 99 00:04:14,496 --> 00:04:15,462 throwing a wrench into it. 100 00:04:15,539 --> 00:04:17,881 I think this is your best. 101 00:04:17,883 --> 00:04:20,801 [Tori] I feel like I'm trying to enjoy it more this time, 102 00:04:20,877 --> 00:04:23,553 because, like, it's the last one. 103 00:04:23,597 --> 00:04:25,389 [Zach] You're relaxed, you're not, like, all, like... 104 00:04:25,432 --> 00:04:26,431 [Tori] Well, he makes it easy, though. 105 00:04:26,508 --> 00:04:27,933 He doesn't have any, like, quirks. 106 00:04:28,010 --> 00:04:30,018 Even at night, even at night you're not, like, 107 00:04:30,020 --> 00:04:32,145 all freaking out and, like, getting upset 108 00:04:32,222 --> 00:04:34,231 -and all that stuff. -Yeah. 109 00:04:34,275 --> 00:04:35,607 [Tori] I don't know, he's just, like... 110 00:04:35,684 --> 00:04:38,402 He's so easy, and I really am trying 111 00:04:38,529 --> 00:04:39,761 to just enjoy it this time, 112 00:04:39,838 --> 00:04:41,947 'cause I don't think we're having any more. 113 00:04:42,024 --> 00:04:43,865 So... 114 00:04:43,867 --> 00:04:46,702 -[Zach] Let's say we aren't having any more. -What? 115 00:04:46,737 --> 00:04:49,037 I'm gonna put a little bit more of a definite on it. 116 00:04:49,114 --> 00:04:51,957 [Tori] I also feel like recovery this time has been, uh... 117 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:53,107 [Zach] Been better? 118 00:04:53,185 --> 00:04:55,669 [Tori] Well, like, the hospital sucked. 119 00:04:55,746 --> 00:04:58,171 And the first two nights sucked, home, 120 00:04:58,248 --> 00:04:59,798 but now I'm like... 121 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:03,093 I don't hurt as bad. 122 00:05:03,128 --> 00:05:04,303 I am feeling better. 123 00:05:04,305 --> 00:05:06,430 I think I've just been up faster, quicker. 124 00:05:06,473 --> 00:05:09,516 It's definitely like, you gotta... Life goes on. 125 00:05:09,593 --> 00:05:11,268 You got two other kids that you gotta worry about, 126 00:05:11,303 --> 00:05:13,228 so you're up and going faster. 127 00:05:13,305 --> 00:05:15,314 He also just doesn't have weird quirks 128 00:05:15,432 --> 00:05:17,232 like the other kids did. 129 00:05:17,309 --> 00:05:19,484 You know? There's nothing for me to, like, worry about. 130 00:05:19,486 --> 00:05:21,069 The worst thing he's had is diaper rash. 131 00:05:21,071 --> 00:05:23,572 I'm like, there's nothing else, like, 132 00:05:23,574 --> 00:05:26,241 weird about, like... There's no throwing up. 133 00:05:26,243 --> 00:05:28,327 There's no crying all the time. 134 00:05:28,403 --> 00:05:30,120 You know? 135 00:05:30,164 --> 00:05:33,290 Jackson as an infant was also very easy. 136 00:05:33,292 --> 00:05:35,500 However, he was my first, 137 00:05:35,577 --> 00:05:39,588 and so I panicked about every little thing. 138 00:05:39,664 --> 00:05:41,923 I mean, he hiccupped and I, like, panicked. 139 00:05:41,925 --> 00:05:45,594 Lilah, love her so much. 140 00:05:45,596 --> 00:05:49,806 She was very colicky, very finicky. 141 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:52,934 She had really bad GERD, 142 00:05:52,936 --> 00:05:54,644 so she threw up all the time, 143 00:05:54,688 --> 00:05:56,438 she had, like, really bad reflux. 144 00:05:56,515 --> 00:05:58,190 She was a hard baby. 145 00:05:58,266 --> 00:06:00,442 Josiah's been easy, 'cause he's easy. 146 00:06:00,444 --> 00:06:03,153 Like, he's a straightforward kid. 147 00:06:03,155 --> 00:06:05,197 He eats, he poops, he sleeps. 148 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:08,909 Like, he's not colicky, he's not finnicky, 149 00:06:08,985 --> 00:06:12,329 he's just easy, so it's made it easier to enjoy everything. 150 00:06:13,207 --> 00:06:14,414 What are they doing right now? 151 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:17,250 Are they playing together right now? 152 00:06:17,327 --> 00:06:20,253 I mean, I don't hear screaming, so... 153 00:06:20,330 --> 00:06:22,506 [children giggling] 154 00:06:31,517 --> 00:06:35,310 -[Caryn] Look at this view. -[Matt] I know. It's nice. 155 00:06:37,064 --> 00:06:38,522 This will be our backyard. 156 00:06:38,565 --> 00:06:39,973 [Caryn chuckles] 157 00:06:39,975 --> 00:06:42,401 [Matt] Now that the farm's on the market, um, 158 00:06:42,477 --> 00:06:45,487 and, you know, I'm making progress on my new house, 159 00:06:45,522 --> 00:06:47,948 thought I'd bring Caryn out to the house site, 160 00:06:47,950 --> 00:06:50,867 the house pad, and give her kind of the lay of the land 161 00:06:50,911 --> 00:06:53,495 on which way we're gonna orient this new home. 162 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:56,790 The house is going to be right here. 163 00:06:56,867 --> 00:06:58,583 I mean, this will be a little bit in the backyard. 164 00:06:58,660 --> 00:07:02,796 I've been trying to design m ultimate dream home for year 165 00:07:02,873 --> 00:07:05,590 Many artists have been hired to come up with ideas. 166 00:07:05,667 --> 00:07:07,801 -It's at least four or five, I think, yeah. -Yeah. 167 00:07:07,803 --> 00:07:10,262 Because of the supply chain issues, 168 00:07:10,338 --> 00:07:12,889 a lot of my craziest ideas, you know, 169 00:07:12,933 --> 00:07:14,891 are just gonna be more difficult to achieve. 170 00:07:14,935 --> 00:07:18,854 So Caryn found a builder, 171 00:07:18,930 --> 00:07:20,814 and there's a floor plan that works for us mostly. 172 00:07:20,891 --> 00:07:22,232 Just a few little tweaks. 173 00:07:22,276 --> 00:07:24,359 We could put some of our ideas into it, 174 00:07:24,436 --> 00:07:26,445 but for the most part, this is a home 175 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,946 that's already been built a couple of times. 176 00:07:27,948 --> 00:07:30,740 It's a little different, a bit scaled back 177 00:07:30,742 --> 00:07:32,451 than what we originally wanted, 178 00:07:32,527 --> 00:07:34,828 but when Caryn brought this to me 179 00:07:34,905 --> 00:07:37,122 it just, click-click-click, made sense, 180 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:38,915 and it, you know, could be done and achievable. 181 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:41,751 [Caryn] So now it's in the realtor's hands, 182 00:07:41,795 --> 00:07:43,545 so do you hear from her? Does she give you updates? 183 00:07:43,622 --> 00:07:45,881 Yeah, a couple times a week, and, uh... 184 00:07:45,883 --> 00:07:49,926 there's been, you know, a handful of, um... 185 00:07:49,970 --> 00:07:52,804 preapprovals, so that's encouraging. 186 00:07:52,881 --> 00:07:56,016 You know, these kind of large deals take six months. 187 00:07:56,092 --> 00:07:59,227 We're what, just one month into it. 188 00:07:59,262 --> 00:08:02,147 Um, and I've been meeting with a lot of the buyers 189 00:08:02,224 --> 00:08:06,610 and giving them the details that they're asking for, 190 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:10,197 and if nobody turns out that's the right fit, 191 00:08:10,199 --> 00:08:13,617 or, you know, can take on this farm, 192 00:08:14,369 --> 00:08:16,453 then I'm gonna start looking at plan B. 193 00:08:16,497 --> 00:08:19,706 Plan B is, we're working on it, developing plan B, 194 00:08:19,708 --> 00:08:21,917 but we know there's gonna be a plan B. 195 00:08:21,993 --> 00:08:23,793 'Cause I always have a plan B. 196 00:08:23,828 --> 00:08:25,228 [chuckles] 197 00:08:25,230 --> 00:08:28,924 I'm planning on starting the build process, um... 198 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,675 even though, um... 199 00:08:30,752 --> 00:08:33,845 So that not being sold quickly 200 00:08:33,922 --> 00:08:36,306 doesn't deter anything on this? 201 00:08:36,308 --> 00:08:38,725 [Matt] No. If it doesn't sell, 202 00:08:38,727 --> 00:08:41,102 I'm still gonna go ahead with the build. 203 00:08:41,179 --> 00:08:42,771 I'm still gonna start the build. I'm not gonna wait. 204 00:08:42,847 --> 00:08:44,356 Gotcha. 205 00:08:44,432 --> 00:08:46,983 [Matt] I'm very happy with my decision to sell. 206 00:08:46,985 --> 00:08:49,528 Of course I can look back and say I'd do things differently. 207 00:08:49,604 --> 00:08:51,863 Almost everything I've ever done in life, 208 00:08:51,865 --> 00:08:53,031 I look back and think, 209 00:08:53,108 --> 00:08:54,315 "Oh, jeez, I could have done this better." 210 00:08:54,317 --> 00:08:56,368 You know, you learn from your mistakes. 211 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:58,662 So there's no doubt I should have sat down 212 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:00,664 with both Jeremy and Zachary 213 00:09:00,699 --> 00:09:03,542 at the same time and tried to, you know, 214 00:09:03,618 --> 00:09:07,546 come together, "Hey guys, how do we do this?" you know? 215 00:09:07,548 --> 00:09:09,923 You definitely get, you know, smarter. 216 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,550 Never smart enough, though. 217 00:09:11,552 --> 00:09:13,001 It's always just, 218 00:09:13,077 --> 00:09:17,055 you're always one word short of saying the right thing, 219 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:19,140 but I think, um... 220 00:09:19,977 --> 00:09:23,353 you know, I'm happy with where things are right now. 221 00:09:23,397 --> 00:09:27,732 I went to, um, see the little Josiah and he's... 222 00:09:27,809 --> 00:09:29,568 Oh, I've seen photos. He's so cute. 223 00:09:29,570 --> 00:09:33,113 -Yeah, he's very professional. -Does he look like Jackson? 224 00:09:33,189 --> 00:09:34,864 [Matt] Uh, yeah, looks, but... 225 00:09:34,908 --> 00:09:36,866 I don't know if he looks as much like Jackson, 226 00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:40,203 I didn't quite see that, but what I saw is 227 00:09:40,247 --> 00:09:42,789 -he's calm like Jackson. -Ah. 228 00:09:42,866 --> 00:09:45,208 -Remember Jackson was very, like, calm? -Yeah. 229 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:47,961 Like, you wake him up and he looks around and goes, 230 00:09:47,963 --> 00:09:49,713 "That all you got?" then goes back to sleep. 231 00:09:49,798 --> 00:09:51,238 -You know? -[Caryn chuckles] 232 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,676 [Matt] I have seven grandkid now, and, um, 233 00:09:54,678 --> 00:09:58,847 I got a chance to, you know, go meet little Josiah 234 00:09:58,923 --> 00:10:00,599 and hold him, and, um... 235 00:10:01,602 --> 00:10:03,018 very cute, very calm. 236 00:10:03,094 --> 00:10:05,020 Very wonderful little fella 237 00:10:05,096 --> 00:10:07,606 And, you know, little person and, uh, 238 00:10:07,682 --> 00:10:10,650 he reminds me a lot of Jackson. He's very calm. 239 00:10:10,652 --> 00:10:13,028 -Jackson seemed so big. -Yeah. 240 00:10:13,104 --> 00:10:16,531 -I bet he's just the best big brother. -Yeah. 241 00:10:18,285 --> 00:10:20,160 [Caryn] I would love to see the grandkids. 242 00:10:20,236 --> 00:10:22,495 I miss them so much. I haven't met Josiah. 243 00:10:22,614 --> 00:10:26,583 But I don't feel welcomed so I'm just kinda standing down 244 00:10:26,668 --> 00:10:29,085 and letting Matt do the grandfather thing right now 245 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:34,507 Three little achon, dwarf babies, and, um... 246 00:10:34,584 --> 00:10:35,800 Four out of five in that family. 247 00:10:35,877 --> 00:10:37,594 [Matt] Four out of five in that family. 248 00:10:37,596 --> 00:10:40,847 I was super happy to meet Josiah 249 00:10:40,924 --> 00:10:43,516 after he was born and get to hold him. 250 00:10:43,518 --> 00:10:45,435 I was a little sad that Caryn wasn't there. 251 00:10:45,437 --> 00:10:47,562 She loves babies, 252 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:49,939 and, you know, even though we're not officially married, 253 00:10:49,983 --> 00:10:52,442 I think people know that, you know, 254 00:10:52,444 --> 00:10:55,028 Caryn isn't going anywhere. 255 00:10:55,105 --> 00:10:57,781 She's a big, big part of my life now. 256 00:10:57,824 --> 00:11:02,035 And Caryn's getting a lot of blame 257 00:11:02,112 --> 00:11:04,829 from Zach and Tori, and I don't... 258 00:11:04,906 --> 00:11:06,247 I don't think it's deserved. 259 00:11:06,249 --> 00:11:08,875 Caryn, more than me, 260 00:11:08,877 --> 00:11:11,878 I think she's really hurt by the process. 261 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,339 I think they should show her some respect. 262 00:11:14,341 --> 00:11:15,840 She's on their team. 263 00:11:15,917 --> 00:11:18,593 Um, you know, and so to alienate her is probably, 264 00:11:18,670 --> 00:11:21,262 you know, not a mature way to handle things. 265 00:11:21,339 --> 00:11:23,765 Come to Caryn and her relationship with Tori, 266 00:11:23,767 --> 00:11:25,074 I hope it heals. 267 00:11:25,076 --> 00:11:28,103 Two people can never come together and heal 268 00:11:28,105 --> 00:11:30,063 if they don't each give a little bit. 269 00:11:33,777 --> 00:11:34,859 [Matt reading] 270 00:11:34,936 --> 00:11:37,320 [Chris] I got this bike for Jackson, 271 00:11:37,322 --> 00:11:38,905 and this had the lowest 272 00:11:38,907 --> 00:11:40,407 -seat setting I could find. -Yeah. 273 00:11:40,442 --> 00:11:43,284 I hope Zach and Tori don't feel like I'm intruding on... 274 00:11:43,361 --> 00:11:47,789 [laughs] That I'm getting his first bike instead of them. 275 00:11:47,866 --> 00:11:49,432 [Matt reading] 276 00:11:49,434 --> 00:11:51,267 [Caryn] I know it's probabl weird for you guys, 277 00:11:51,302 --> 00:11:53,336 -coming to town and there's no kids. -No little Jackson. 278 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:56,798 I wish we could have sat and talked about it like adults, 279 00:11:56,833 --> 00:11:58,007 because they just left, 280 00:11:58,009 --> 00:11:59,926 and so I don't know what to do. 281 00:12:14,401 --> 00:12:15,734 [tool whirring] 282 00:12:18,655 --> 00:12:20,405 -Hey babe. -Hey. 283 00:12:20,482 --> 00:12:24,033 You got room in here amongst all my garage sale stuff? 284 00:12:24,035 --> 00:12:27,412 Well, I'm glad you're getting rid of a bunch of it. 285 00:12:27,489 --> 00:12:29,706 Well, we'll see how it goes. 286 00:12:30,333 --> 00:12:32,041 Okay, what are you doing now? 287 00:12:32,085 --> 00:12:33,835 -I cut the post down... -Uh-huh. 288 00:12:33,912 --> 00:12:35,754 ...on the bottom of the seat so now it's bottomed out. 289 00:12:35,830 --> 00:12:38,131 -Uh-huh. -I mean, that's kinda what... 290 00:12:38,208 --> 00:12:40,175 You know, even though this is a used bike, 291 00:12:40,177 --> 00:12:41,843 what inspired me to get it is 292 00:12:41,845 --> 00:12:44,846 -this had the lowest seat setting I could find. -Yeah. 293 00:12:44,931 --> 00:12:48,725 [Chris] I got this bike for Jackson, and, uh, 294 00:12:48,769 --> 00:12:50,351 it's kind of a belated birthday gift. 295 00:12:50,353 --> 00:12:52,562 I wasn't able to go to his actual birthday party 296 00:12:52,606 --> 00:12:54,105 at the time and take the bik 297 00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:56,274 and actually I think this is working out better, 298 00:12:56,351 --> 00:12:58,109 you know, 'cause we can kinda focus on 299 00:12:58,186 --> 00:12:59,602 him trying it out, 300 00:12:59,613 --> 00:13:02,947 versus he'd be distracted with all the other toys, 301 00:13:03,024 --> 00:13:04,616 birthday present. 302 00:13:04,692 --> 00:13:09,120 I'm hoping this'll work, but if not, 303 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,500 I'm gonna cut these blocks out, I'll do four of 'em. 304 00:13:13,618 --> 00:13:15,168 That's how I did it when I grew up. 305 00:13:15,245 --> 00:13:16,377 Well, my dad did it. 306 00:13:16,379 --> 00:13:18,421 -Wood blocks on the pedals? -Yeah. 307 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:20,799 I totally remember that. 308 00:13:20,875 --> 00:13:23,676 I remember really liking, you know, riding a bike. 309 00:13:23,753 --> 00:13:27,764 I don't really remember a lot of 310 00:13:27,766 --> 00:13:30,892 modifications that my parents did. 311 00:13:30,894 --> 00:13:33,978 But once I was able to do a two-wheel bike, 312 00:13:33,980 --> 00:13:35,396 my dad came up with 313 00:13:35,473 --> 00:13:39,359 getting some wood and attaching it to the pedal 314 00:13:39,435 --> 00:13:41,820 so that my feet could reach it. 315 00:13:41,822 --> 00:13:44,739 I think this is a very good starter bike 316 00:13:44,741 --> 00:13:46,366 since he's really never had one 317 00:13:46,401 --> 00:13:48,159 -except for maybe a trike. -Yeah. 318 00:13:49,162 --> 00:13:52,455 I hope Zach and Tori don't feel like I'm intruding on... 319 00:13:52,499 --> 00:13:56,084 [laughs] That I'm getting his first bike instead of them, 320 00:13:56,086 --> 00:13:58,628 but I don't know, this is like a rite of passage, you know? 321 00:13:58,663 --> 00:14:01,172 For me it's just a lot of fun to be able to be a part of it. 322 00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:02,924 Oh, you just like having kids around 323 00:14:03,001 --> 00:14:05,468 and having that little moment of an experience. 324 00:14:05,470 --> 00:14:06,845 Well, that too. Maybe we'll have to leave... 325 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,588 you know, keep this here, 326 00:14:08,590 --> 00:14:10,640 -and he has to come here to ride it! -Oh yeah, that could be. 327 00:14:10,642 --> 00:14:12,976 I think if I'd ever had the opportunity 328 00:14:12,978 --> 00:14:14,853 of having my own kids, I mean, 329 00:14:14,929 --> 00:14:16,354 there are certain milestones, like a bike. 330 00:14:16,431 --> 00:14:19,983 And just the thrill of 331 00:14:19,985 --> 00:14:24,195 sharing a new experience with a child is... 332 00:14:24,197 --> 00:14:25,363 to me is a lot of fun, 333 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,323 and I'm hoping that I get 334 00:14:27,358 --> 00:14:28,774 a lot more of those opportunities. 335 00:14:28,776 --> 00:14:31,870 Without taking too much away from their own parents. 336 00:14:31,872 --> 00:14:35,081 You know, I hope that there's a few new experiences 337 00:14:35,158 --> 00:14:36,833 that I can be a part of. 338 00:14:36,835 --> 00:14:40,670 So, I would love to do this before we take off 339 00:14:40,714 --> 00:14:42,797 -on our motorcycle trip. -Yeah. 340 00:14:42,874 --> 00:14:47,552 So, we're going on an 18-day motorcycle trip. 341 00:14:47,554 --> 00:14:50,847 Our destination is Skagway, Alaska. 342 00:14:50,891 --> 00:14:53,641 Hopefully we'll see a lot more animals. 343 00:14:53,718 --> 00:14:55,977 We really wanna see the wildlife. 344 00:14:56,012 --> 00:14:57,395 I'm super excited about doing this trip. 345 00:14:57,397 --> 00:15:00,940 It's gonna be some amazing new country, 346 00:15:00,942 --> 00:15:04,235 and hopefully, um, things will be just great. 347 00:15:04,312 --> 00:15:06,571 [Amy] So, hey, have you heard 348 00:15:06,648 --> 00:15:09,699 anything from Matt about this whole house thing? 349 00:15:09,743 --> 00:15:12,243 I almost wanna call him and say, 350 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,162 "Hey, how's it going? Any showings?" 351 00:15:14,164 --> 00:15:16,122 Um, I just checked this morning, 352 00:15:16,124 --> 00:15:18,625 -it's still active so it's not pending... -Yeah. 353 00:15:18,701 --> 00:15:20,835 ...so obviously they haven't accepted an offer yet, 354 00:15:20,837 --> 00:15:22,921 but I am tempted, though, to call him and say, 355 00:15:22,923 --> 00:15:25,131 "Hey, how's it going?" [laughs] 356 00:15:25,208 --> 00:15:26,424 I'm really curious what kind of... 357 00:15:26,501 --> 00:15:29,552 Well, if you do, babe, you let me know, okay? 358 00:15:29,554 --> 00:15:31,930 Okay? 'Cause I ain't. I... 359 00:15:31,932 --> 00:15:35,725 You know? To me, it's done. 360 00:15:35,769 --> 00:15:38,394 When I found out that Matt went live 361 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:41,022 with the sale of the home, it was on the MLS, 362 00:15:41,057 --> 00:15:42,148 of course I had to take a look, 363 00:15:42,225 --> 00:15:43,733 you know, look it up, and yeah, 364 00:15:43,735 --> 00:15:45,151 I was kinda surprised at the price. 365 00:15:45,186 --> 00:15:47,028 It was a bit higher than what 366 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:51,199 he had talked to me about previously. 367 00:15:51,275 --> 00:15:54,285 But there's a lot to like about it, 368 00:15:54,362 --> 00:15:55,912 and, um, 369 00:15:55,914 --> 00:15:58,539 you know, I think he's gonna get some activity on it. 370 00:15:59,167 --> 00:16:00,458 You know, I could raise the seat up 371 00:16:00,535 --> 00:16:01,793 if you wanna give it a try. 372 00:16:01,869 --> 00:16:04,837 I think my butt will be too big for the seat. 373 00:16:04,914 --> 00:16:06,464 That's true. Wouldn't want you to break it 374 00:16:06,541 --> 00:16:07,590 before he got a chance to try. 375 00:16:07,592 --> 00:16:09,717 Oh, really? Really? 376 00:16:09,719 --> 00:16:11,511 -Really, babe? Really? -I'm kidding! 377 00:16:11,587 --> 00:16:13,721 [laughs] I'm kidding. 378 00:16:13,807 --> 00:16:15,348 Oh, gosh. 379 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:19,060 -I tell ya. -[Chris sighs] 380 00:16:28,405 --> 00:16:31,406 [Zach] Lilah and me are gonna move this dirt pile. 381 00:16:31,482 --> 00:16:34,117 You're just wanting to use your boy-toy here? 382 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,493 Yeah. 383 00:16:35,570 --> 00:16:36,719 Today I'm gonna work on my bridge project, 384 00:16:36,721 --> 00:16:38,371 because when the creek comes through, 385 00:16:38,406 --> 00:16:40,147 it splits the property in half. 386 00:16:40,149 --> 00:16:43,209 So I wanna build a bridge s I can get across to that sid 387 00:16:43,211 --> 00:16:45,211 Yeah, I'm working on project 388 00:16:46,965 --> 00:16:49,716 I'm doing it for us, Tori, and our kids. 389 00:16:49,718 --> 00:16:50,958 This is the thing. 390 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,427 He didn't tell me he was buying a tractor. 391 00:16:52,503 --> 00:16:54,762 He didn't ask. He just bought one. 392 00:16:54,764 --> 00:16:57,056 Such a deal came up, you just can't say no. 393 00:16:57,058 --> 00:16:58,933 But you could tell your wife. 394 00:16:58,935 --> 00:17:01,853 Yeah, I did it before the guy got seller's remorse. 395 00:17:01,929 --> 00:17:05,231 Okay, however though, I have a trust for my husband 396 00:17:05,308 --> 00:17:07,734 that he's not gonna do something stupid. 397 00:17:07,736 --> 00:17:09,986 Like buy an excavator. 398 00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:12,572 -Did you buy an excavator? -[cackles] 399 00:17:12,648 --> 00:17:15,033 No, I didn't. 400 00:17:15,910 --> 00:17:17,618 [Tori] Lilah! 401 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:20,705 Look at her push you out of the way. 402 00:17:20,782 --> 00:17:22,689 [Zach] I know. 403 00:17:22,767 --> 00:17:25,001 -[Tori] Lilah loves the tractor. -[Zach] Loves the tractor. 404 00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:26,794 Last night at, like, eight o'clock, 405 00:17:26,871 --> 00:17:28,421 her and I are just bouncing around on the tractor. 406 00:17:28,498 --> 00:17:29,630 On the little tractor. 407 00:17:29,707 --> 00:17:32,633 See? She knows I'm giving them 408 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:36,012 -great, great, core memories. -It's expensive, though. 409 00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:37,764 [Zach] All right, get in. 410 00:17:44,898 --> 00:17:46,355 Growing up on the farm, 411 00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:47,732 you just get experiences 412 00:17:47,809 --> 00:17:49,734 that, like, you just don't get in the city 413 00:17:49,811 --> 00:17:50,943 and neighborhoods. 414 00:17:51,020 --> 00:17:52,653 Yeah, I grew up on tractors 415 00:17:52,655 --> 00:17:55,698 So it's cool I'm able to have this proper 416 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:58,117 and give my kids fun experiences like that. 417 00:17:59,537 --> 00:18:01,037 I'm proud of the life we've started 418 00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:02,563 up here in Battle Ground. 419 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,624 Just teaching the kids, like, yeah, you can do 420 00:18:04,700 --> 00:18:06,250 anything you need to, but just figuring out 421 00:18:06,252 --> 00:18:08,586 how you can get that done. 422 00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:11,464 Didn't get the farm but we'r starting our own legacy here 423 00:18:11,466 --> 00:18:13,716 and giving our kids a good life. 424 00:18:15,095 --> 00:18:17,053 It's fine that we don't live on the farm. 425 00:18:17,097 --> 00:18:18,262 And even though our relationship 426 00:18:18,339 --> 00:18:19,822 is in a better spot, 427 00:18:19,824 --> 00:18:21,182 I don't think the relationsh with my dad's 428 00:18:21,259 --> 00:18:22,749 gonna be the same. 429 00:18:22,827 --> 00:18:26,771 How he came to that conclusion is what's very upsetting. 430 00:18:26,848 --> 00:18:29,440 Look at how she's walking. Why is she walking like that? 431 00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:31,275 So she doesn't get mud on her shoes. 432 00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:33,778 That's how girls walk. We walk like this so we don't... 433 00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:35,196 Stop being weird. Come on. 434 00:18:35,273 --> 00:18:36,614 [Tori] ...you don't get mud. 435 00:18:38,409 --> 00:18:40,034 [Amy reading] 436 00:18:40,111 --> 00:18:41,536 [Amy] Hey Jackson, 437 00:18:41,538 --> 00:18:44,038 Chris has something very special for you. 438 00:18:45,208 --> 00:18:46,607 Here. 439 00:18:46,684 --> 00:18:48,334 Chris, I think, is trying to find things 440 00:18:48,411 --> 00:18:49,869 to connect with the kids on. 441 00:18:49,871 --> 00:18:52,088 He's got the fish tank, he did the bike thing. 442 00:18:52,132 --> 00:18:55,550 Jackson, he's very stoic, very, like, no reaction. 443 00:18:55,626 --> 00:18:57,218 [Chris] You wanna give it a try? 444 00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:10,481 [Deb] Come on, baby. 445 00:19:10,558 --> 00:19:11,983 Come on, baby girl. 446 00:19:11,985 --> 00:19:13,943 Oopsie! Oopsie! 447 00:19:13,987 --> 00:19:16,154 Okay, I have not really walked in, like... 448 00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:17,613 How long? 449 00:19:17,648 --> 00:19:19,323 Like two weeks. Not good. 450 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,951 -Well then, you know what? -I slipped a few days. 451 00:19:21,995 --> 00:19:25,079 We have to get, or I have to get back into it. 452 00:19:25,081 --> 00:19:28,583 I've been trying to work ou for the last two months. 453 00:19:28,585 --> 00:19:31,377 I wanna continue to walk right up to 454 00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:34,005 just before we leave for the big Alaska trip, 455 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,465 so I'm walking with my good friend Deb. 456 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:38,718 Anybody can walk a whole lot faster than I ca 457 00:19:38,794 --> 00:19:43,014 so I'm very appreciative that she lets me walk with her, 458 00:19:43,090 --> 00:19:46,225 but, you know, I gotta take in every day I can. 459 00:19:46,644 --> 00:19:48,077 [Deb] How much have you lost? 460 00:19:48,079 --> 00:19:50,438 So, probably about seven, eight more pounds to go. 461 00:19:50,514 --> 00:19:51,731 [Deb] And you've lost how much? 462 00:19:51,807 --> 00:19:53,024 -Seven. -Okay. 463 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:56,110 We started two months ago and I'm like, "What? 464 00:19:56,187 --> 00:19:59,405 This isn't going fast enough!" 465 00:19:59,482 --> 00:20:02,742 My original weight loss goal was about 15 pounds. 466 00:20:02,818 --> 00:20:05,036 I think Chris's was 20. 467 00:20:05,112 --> 00:20:06,913 I think we both haven't achieved 468 00:20:06,915 --> 00:20:08,998 as much as we had hoped, 469 00:20:09,042 --> 00:20:12,835 but, you know, there comes to a point at a certain age where 470 00:20:12,879 --> 00:20:16,464 I just wanna chill, but I gotta get up and do it again. 471 00:20:17,217 --> 00:20:20,635 [Deb] So, with married life with Chris, 472 00:20:20,711 --> 00:20:23,179 and the grandkids, 'cause he never had kids. 473 00:20:23,181 --> 00:20:25,097 [Amy] That's the thing he's really getting into, 474 00:20:25,174 --> 00:20:26,224 especially for the boys. 475 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:27,892 -You know? -Well, now they're family. 476 00:20:27,969 --> 00:20:29,268 They're his family, too. 477 00:20:29,345 --> 00:20:31,354 Well, he's enjoying seeing that. 478 00:20:31,389 --> 00:20:33,105 Oh, I love that. 479 00:20:33,107 --> 00:20:38,110 I'm happy that Chris has been able to 480 00:20:38,112 --> 00:20:40,613 embrace and enjoy 481 00:20:40,690 --> 00:20:43,950 having my kids and the grandkids over. 482 00:20:44,026 --> 00:20:45,952 Chris had to come on his own 483 00:20:45,954 --> 00:20:48,287 I didn't wanna push that on to him. 484 00:20:48,364 --> 00:20:51,832 To me, that doesn't create a good relationship. 485 00:20:51,834 --> 00:20:55,753 So this had to come from him, him wanting to do this, 486 00:20:55,755 --> 00:21:00,800 and I'm thrilled that, you know, he's doing it, 487 00:21:00,876 --> 00:21:02,551 and that makes me happy. 488 00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:04,220 How is that new little baby? 489 00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:05,846 -Oh, Josiah? -Yeah. 490 00:21:05,848 --> 00:21:07,348 I just saw them the other day. 491 00:21:07,425 --> 00:21:10,518 -Oh! [giggles] -Oh, he's a cutie. 492 00:21:10,594 --> 00:21:12,186 Anything else going on? 493 00:21:12,188 --> 00:21:14,730 No, not really. I mean, 494 00:21:14,774 --> 00:21:16,315 you know, you probably heard the farm's up for sale. 495 00:21:16,434 --> 00:21:17,692 -[Deb] I did hear. -You know. 496 00:21:17,694 --> 00:21:19,568 And how do the kids feel? 497 00:21:19,612 --> 00:21:21,821 -You know, I just think they're ready to move on. -Yeah. 498 00:21:21,823 --> 00:21:24,949 It's like, let it be for sale, you know? 499 00:21:25,026 --> 00:21:27,368 We tried, and we're tired, and... 500 00:21:27,445 --> 00:21:29,829 -Just... It's in the past. -Yeah. Move on. 501 00:21:29,998 --> 00:21:31,864 It's still... 502 00:21:31,940 --> 00:21:34,000 -You know, having the issue or whatever. -It's a piece of your life. 503 00:21:34,002 --> 00:21:35,918 I think the thing he doesn't understand, 504 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,963 but this is how always Matt has been, 505 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,048 come and go. If it wasn't for me, 506 00:21:41,125 --> 00:21:42,842 we probably would have left that farm 507 00:21:42,844 --> 00:21:44,343 -within five, 10, eight years. -Yeah. 508 00:21:44,420 --> 00:21:46,053 'Cause he moved a lot as a kid. 509 00:21:46,055 --> 00:21:47,513 I didn't, I never moved. 510 00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:50,850 -But I like that stability for kids, and... -Yeah. 511 00:21:50,926 --> 00:21:53,269 When we first bought the farm house, 512 00:21:53,304 --> 00:21:56,272 I don't think Matt intended to be there 513 00:21:56,274 --> 00:21:58,274 as long as, you know, we all have been. 514 00:21:58,276 --> 00:22:01,444 We had originally put an offer on a neighborhood house 515 00:22:01,446 --> 00:22:04,322 but Matt found this farm piece of property. 516 00:22:04,398 --> 00:22:07,867 And so I told him, "I mean, life happens, 517 00:22:07,869 --> 00:22:11,579 but if at all possible, I don't wanna really move 518 00:22:11,581 --> 00:22:13,164 while the kids are growing up. 519 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,041 I would like them to have 520 00:22:15,043 --> 00:22:18,461 a place that they can always remember, call home." 521 00:22:18,504 --> 00:22:19,879 I think legacy is important 522 00:22:19,955 --> 00:22:22,798 I think it should mean something. 523 00:22:22,842 --> 00:22:26,052 Well, that house, that was your home for how many years? 524 00:22:26,087 --> 00:22:28,596 Well, for me, probably about 29. 525 00:22:28,672 --> 00:22:30,806 -Gosh. Well... -Um, yeah. 526 00:22:30,850 --> 00:22:33,642 -Now you got a new home. -Yeah. 527 00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:35,394 [Amy] You know, the house is up for sale, 528 00:22:35,396 --> 00:22:37,730 I mean, there's nothing really I can do about it. 529 00:22:37,807 --> 00:22:39,398 It is what it is. 530 00:22:39,475 --> 00:22:42,151 I just hope that all the kid 531 00:22:42,153 --> 00:22:43,986 have some sort of good memory 532 00:22:43,988 --> 00:22:47,073 about how they grew up, where they grew up. 533 00:22:47,149 --> 00:22:48,949 [Debs] How long are you guys gonna be gone? 534 00:22:48,951 --> 00:22:50,785 [Amy] Uh, the 2nd through the 20th. 535 00:22:50,787 --> 00:22:52,912 [Deb] Oh, that's gonna be fun. 536 00:22:52,914 --> 00:22:54,205 [Amy] We leave, like, a week from now. 537 00:22:54,207 --> 00:22:56,265 [Deb] That is gonna be so much fun. 538 00:22:56,267 --> 00:22:57,666 [Amy] We are so excited that it's not gonna be great weather this weekend, 539 00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:59,418 'cause we have so much to do. 540 00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:01,045 [Deb laughs] 541 00:23:08,429 --> 00:23:10,304 [Josiah fusses] 542 00:23:10,306 --> 00:23:12,681 Come here. Yeah. 543 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:14,725 I hear ya, honey. 544 00:23:15,311 --> 00:23:16,852 There we go. 545 00:23:17,605 --> 00:23:19,271 It's been a month since Josiah's been born, 546 00:23:19,306 --> 00:23:20,398 and we're starting to take him out more. 547 00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:23,859 Oh, what are you doing? 548 00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:25,319 [Zach] Today we're meeting my mom and Chris 549 00:23:25,396 --> 00:23:27,029 at the park in Portland. 550 00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:29,365 Chris said that he had a surprise for Jackson 551 00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:31,200 so we're excited to see what it is. 552 00:23:33,871 --> 00:23:36,872 [Tori] Where are you guys going? 553 00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:39,375 [Amy] Well, it's a nice little postage stamp of a park. 554 00:23:39,419 --> 00:23:42,336 Yeah. Cute little place. Hey Zach. 555 00:23:42,413 --> 00:23:45,005 -[Zach] Hi, how's it going? -[Chris] Good. 556 00:23:45,082 --> 00:23:47,133 Lilah sure likes the... 557 00:23:47,135 --> 00:23:50,678 The little playground? Hey Lilah! 558 00:23:50,754 --> 00:23:52,721 [Chris] Oh. How's he doing? 559 00:23:52,765 --> 00:23:55,182 [Tori] He thinks he's hungry, but he's not. 560 00:23:55,259 --> 00:23:57,143 -Aww. -That's all you do. 561 00:23:57,219 --> 00:24:00,438 So far everything's good? Healthy and... 562 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,773 -[Tori] Everything's great. -That's good. 563 00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:04,775 This is the second time that I've met Josiah. 564 00:24:04,852 --> 00:24:07,278 Zach and Tori came over once, 565 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,280 and I did get a chance to meet Josiah, 566 00:24:09,356 --> 00:24:12,450 but, you know, I mean, at that age he's just 567 00:24:12,568 --> 00:24:14,827 -a little shriveled ball of flesh. -He's not shriveled! 568 00:24:14,904 --> 00:24:17,204 He barely had his eyes open, I mean, you know... 569 00:24:17,206 --> 00:24:19,540 And you held him, but you didn't want to. 570 00:24:19,542 --> 00:24:23,544 Yeah, I've just never been into babies. 571 00:24:23,621 --> 00:24:26,005 I feel uncomfortable, you know, 572 00:24:26,081 --> 00:24:27,298 holding or picking them up 573 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:29,925 because, you know, they just seem 574 00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:31,677 so vulnerable, so fragile. 575 00:24:31,754 --> 00:24:33,971 Until they start speaking 576 00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:36,682 and I can communicate with them, uh... 577 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:38,225 -And interacting with them. -Yeah, yeah. 578 00:24:38,227 --> 00:24:40,561 It's just a lot more fun to interact that way, 579 00:24:40,563 --> 00:24:43,355 so, um, yeah. 580 00:24:43,432 --> 00:24:45,524 It's all a big learning experience. 581 00:24:45,818 --> 00:24:47,059 [Amy] Hey Jackson, 582 00:24:47,135 --> 00:24:49,111 Chris has something very special for you. 583 00:24:49,155 --> 00:24:50,696 Okay? 584 00:24:53,493 --> 00:24:54,658 [Jackson speaking] 585 00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:56,952 [Amy] All right, Chris! 586 00:24:56,996 --> 00:24:58,245 [Tori] Hey, that's awesome! 587 00:24:58,322 --> 00:25:00,122 [Zach] Yeah, that's way cool. 588 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:01,665 -[Amy] Oh, dear. -[Zach] Are you stoked? 589 00:25:01,667 --> 00:25:03,167 [Amy] Do you like that bike? 590 00:25:03,244 --> 00:25:04,210 [Jackson speaking] 591 00:25:04,286 --> 00:25:06,921 [Chris] You wanna give it a try? 592 00:25:06,997 --> 00:25:08,964 Jackson, here, you gotta put your helmet on, though. 593 00:25:09,884 --> 00:25:11,416 Here. 594 00:25:11,493 --> 00:25:13,719 -It's just like your scooter. -This is a brand new thing. 595 00:25:14,805 --> 00:25:18,265 [Amy] Hey Lilah Ray! Come on, Lilah! 596 00:25:18,267 --> 00:25:20,017 Have you been on one of these yet? 597 00:25:20,094 --> 00:25:21,644 [Amy] Besides a tricycle? 598 00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:23,145 They've all been too big. 599 00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:26,899 Jackson, he's very stoic, very, like, no reaction. 600 00:25:26,976 --> 00:25:28,859 You won't know if he likes something 601 00:25:28,936 --> 00:25:31,904 until you get him home, alone, 602 00:25:31,981 --> 00:25:33,864 to see how much he talks about it. 603 00:25:33,941 --> 00:25:35,274 But I think it was really ni 604 00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:37,618 that Chris found a bike that fits Jackson 605 00:25:37,620 --> 00:25:40,663 without having Jackson there. I am impressed. 606 00:25:42,625 --> 00:25:44,500 [Chris] You know how to get on one of those? 607 00:25:45,419 --> 00:25:47,836 Okay, so put this foot on this pedal 608 00:25:47,838 --> 00:25:49,505 and then swing the other leg around. 609 00:25:50,675 --> 00:25:51,715 There you go. 610 00:25:51,792 --> 00:25:54,260 Here, step up there. There you go. 611 00:25:56,639 --> 00:25:59,014 Oh yeah, yeah, get on the seat. 612 00:25:59,049 --> 00:26:01,475 -Okay. Now. -Can he reach them? Yes! 613 00:26:01,552 --> 00:26:03,269 Now, you press this way to go 614 00:26:03,345 --> 00:26:06,605 and then if you wanna stop, push back and it'll stop. 615 00:26:06,607 --> 00:26:08,983 Okay? All right. 616 00:26:09,059 --> 00:26:12,778 Jackson was just barely abl to reach the pedals. 617 00:26:12,855 --> 00:26:14,196 It turned out that my block idea 618 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,948 was a blockhead idea. 619 00:26:16,025 --> 00:26:17,950 -[laughs] -It didn't work. 620 00:26:18,027 --> 00:26:19,910 When he went to put his feet on the pedal, 621 00:26:19,987 --> 00:26:22,371 they would flip, and wouldn't end up 622 00:26:22,373 --> 00:26:25,082 -in the right position for his feet. -I see. 623 00:26:25,159 --> 00:26:27,084 -You gotta push that down. -[Tori] Just watch, honey. 624 00:26:27,086 --> 00:26:28,252 [gasps] 625 00:26:28,254 --> 00:26:29,795 [Tori] Gotta keep going, J. 626 00:26:29,872 --> 00:26:31,839 -Just keep going forward. -[Tori] There you go. 627 00:26:31,915 --> 00:26:34,466 -Gotta push down, push down. -There you go. Keep going! 628 00:26:34,543 --> 00:26:35,718 Watch where you're going. 629 00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:37,094 Push down that way, not behind you. 630 00:26:37,096 --> 00:26:38,429 The other way's gonna stop. 631 00:26:38,505 --> 00:26:40,264 I think he might have just been trying out the brake. 632 00:26:40,341 --> 00:26:41,432 There you go. And then watch where you're going. 633 00:26:41,508 --> 00:26:42,766 You gotta steer, too. 634 00:26:42,843 --> 00:26:45,728 -[Amy] Yeah, there you go. -[Tori] Good job, J. 635 00:26:45,771 --> 00:26:47,896 -[Tori] Nice, dude! -Good job, Jackson. 636 00:26:55,114 --> 00:26:58,699 When it's on this side, this foot, push down, 637 00:26:58,701 --> 00:27:01,201 but then once it goes here, 638 00:27:01,278 --> 00:27:03,996 once it goes right here, stop pushing 639 00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:05,873 and only push on this foot. 640 00:27:05,875 --> 00:27:08,250 Okay? Right, left. 641 00:27:09,003 --> 00:27:12,504 Right, left. Right, left. 642 00:27:13,674 --> 00:27:16,884 There you go. Push down and forward. 643 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,011 There you go, there you go! 644 00:27:19,722 --> 00:27:21,680 Chris, I think, is trying to find 645 00:27:21,682 --> 00:27:23,182 things to connect with the kids on. 646 00:27:23,184 --> 00:27:25,601 He's got the fish tank, he did the bike thing. 647 00:27:25,645 --> 00:27:28,979 So it's nice of Chris to tak some interest in the kids 648 00:27:28,981 --> 00:27:31,440 and does fun things like that. So I think it was great. 649 00:27:31,484 --> 00:27:32,900 [Chris] Yeah, I've never taught a kid 650 00:27:32,976 --> 00:27:34,209 how to ride a bike before. 651 00:27:34,211 --> 00:27:36,779 I certainly don't remember when I learned. 652 00:27:36,781 --> 00:27:38,197 You just keep moving forward. 653 00:27:38,199 --> 00:27:40,199 Keep going, keep going. 654 00:27:40,201 --> 00:27:42,368 No backwards, just keep going forward. 655 00:27:42,444 --> 00:27:44,578 -All right! -[Tori] There you go! 656 00:27:44,655 --> 00:27:46,497 Watch where you're going, though. 657 00:27:46,573 --> 00:27:50,668 I was really happy that Jackson took to the bike. 658 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:53,796 He struggled a little bit at first, and I was-- 659 00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:55,714 Well, he kept not knowing how to go forward, 660 00:27:55,791 --> 00:27:57,174 how to go forward and the brakes. 661 00:27:57,176 --> 00:27:58,384 [Chris] Yeah, yeah, he kept hitting the brake. 662 00:27:58,386 --> 00:28:00,219 But in the end it seemed like, yeah, 663 00:28:00,295 --> 00:28:02,054 like he liked it, like he enjoyed it. 664 00:28:02,131 --> 00:28:03,329 Good job. That's awesome. 665 00:28:03,407 --> 00:28:05,073 [Zach] Jackson, good job starting that. 666 00:28:05,075 --> 00:28:06,475 -Yeah, we'll have to practice that. -Hey, Jackson, Jackson. 667 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:08,227 What do you tell Chris and Mimi? 668 00:28:08,604 --> 00:28:10,229 You're welcome. 669 00:28:11,691 --> 00:28:14,566 -[Jackson] Lilah, you... -[Tori] Watch out, watch out. 670 00:28:14,568 --> 00:28:15,693 [Amy] Good job, babe. 671 00:28:15,695 --> 00:28:17,486 You know, it's watching stuff like this 672 00:28:17,530 --> 00:28:19,279 where I regret that I never had kids. 673 00:28:19,356 --> 00:28:20,948 -Oh! -You know, I... 674 00:28:21,024 --> 00:28:23,158 didn't have any of these moments. 675 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,495 Well, now you have these ones to share. 676 00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:28,914 Well, Jackson, we're glad that you like the bike. 677 00:28:28,991 --> 00:28:31,166 Chris was so excited to give that to you. 678 00:28:31,168 --> 00:28:33,043 [Chris] Mmm. 679 00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:38,632 Can I try it? [groans] 680 00:28:38,709 --> 00:28:40,300 Oh, my gosh. 681 00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:43,929 Here I go. Whoo! 682 00:28:44,006 --> 00:28:46,557 Whoa-ho-ho! 683 00:28:48,436 --> 00:28:50,644 [Zach] Gosh, knuckleheads. 684 00:28:51,731 --> 00:28:53,105 [Matt reading] 685 00:28:53,182 --> 00:28:55,607 So, that's Matt's future home site. 686 00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:57,985 The plan is for Matt and I to move in together 687 00:28:57,987 --> 00:28:59,528 once the house build is complete. 688 00:28:59,530 --> 00:29:03,031 I would be really sad if he builds this 689 00:29:03,075 --> 00:29:07,619 and then the kids don't feel like he's worthy of coming. 690 00:29:07,621 --> 00:29:11,248 Right now everything is so turmoil, 691 00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:15,294 and I don't know, I don't know how it fell apart so bad. 692 00:29:29,185 --> 00:29:31,685 You guys gonna be able to come and help us out for pumpkin season? 693 00:29:31,687 --> 00:29:33,228 Yeah, we'll be here. 694 00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:35,397 I should be able to show you your new bedroom. 695 00:29:35,441 --> 00:29:36,648 -It should be a frame. -[laughs] My new bedroom! 696 00:29:36,725 --> 00:29:38,108 You won't be able to sleep in it. 697 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:40,277 I don't think you guys are gonna let me in that house. 698 00:29:40,354 --> 00:29:42,780 That's what I like about your DW, 699 00:29:42,782 --> 00:29:43,781 you don't have to take your shoes off. 700 00:29:43,857 --> 00:29:45,199 That's true. 701 00:29:45,201 --> 00:29:47,034 Cowboy Bob and his wife Jody 702 00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:49,870 I just met Jody in recent years, 703 00:29:49,872 --> 00:29:51,622 you know, 10 years ago, but Bob I've known 704 00:29:51,698 --> 00:29:53,832 for 40-some-odd years. 705 00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:55,083 We grew up together 706 00:29:55,127 --> 00:29:56,418 just south of San Francisco 707 00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:58,670 in a town called San Bruno. 708 00:29:58,747 --> 00:30:01,423 We were, I think, 14 or 15 years old, 709 00:30:01,467 --> 00:30:03,509 and we went to junior high together 710 00:30:03,585 --> 00:30:06,053 and high school together. 711 00:30:06,129 --> 00:30:10,098 And Bob and Jody, they're in town for a couple of days. 712 00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:14,102 He was on his way up to northern California 713 00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:17,564 and kinda detoured through to come see us here at the farm. 714 00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:20,150 What are you boys chatting? 715 00:30:20,152 --> 00:30:22,402 -Minding our own business. -Hey hey hey. 716 00:30:22,479 --> 00:30:26,281 -We are going to go take a walk. -Oh, okay. 717 00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:28,242 [Matt] Only one condition. When you come back, 718 00:30:28,318 --> 00:30:29,785 you can't have a honey-do-list. 719 00:30:29,829 --> 00:30:31,453 [Caryn] Well, that's what we're working on. 720 00:30:31,497 --> 00:30:33,372 Don't talk about us while we're gone. 721 00:30:33,448 --> 00:30:35,874 Uh, we might, just a little bit. 722 00:30:35,876 --> 00:30:38,752 [Caryn] I met Jody maybe seven, eight years ago 723 00:30:38,829 --> 00:30:40,838 You know, Bob and Matt were good friends, 724 00:30:40,914 --> 00:30:42,923 and they would come up for pumpkin season 725 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,716 and stay on the farm, so we... 726 00:30:44,793 --> 00:30:46,301 so we got to be good friends really quickly. 727 00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:48,846 She's a really neat person. 728 00:30:48,922 --> 00:30:52,808 Oh, yeah, this isn't getting much use these days. 729 00:30:52,852 --> 00:30:54,643 [Jody] Well, that has to be sad right there. 730 00:30:54,645 --> 00:30:56,395 [Caryn] I know, it's probably weird 731 00:30:56,513 --> 00:30:57,855 for you guys coming to town and there's no... 732 00:30:57,857 --> 00:30:59,189 [Jody] No little kids. 733 00:30:59,266 --> 00:31:00,732 -[Caryn] Kids. -[Jody] No little Jackson. 734 00:31:00,809 --> 00:31:02,267 Well, I bet he misses being here 735 00:31:02,269 --> 00:31:05,904 because he always loved to come and play on the farm. 736 00:31:05,981 --> 00:31:07,447 You and Bob went up to see them. 737 00:31:07,524 --> 00:31:08,699 -We did. -So you've seen their new place. 738 00:31:08,817 --> 00:31:09,867 We saw their new place. 739 00:31:09,943 --> 00:31:11,952 They didn't have chickens at that time. 740 00:31:12,029 --> 00:31:15,080 Uh, but I think maybe they've gotten chickens by now. 741 00:31:15,082 --> 00:31:17,416 So I've heard. [chuckles] 742 00:31:17,492 --> 00:31:21,086 Bob and Jody have known Zach and Tori for a long tim 743 00:31:21,121 --> 00:31:23,171 So they were aware, you know, 744 00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:25,382 that things were not super-cohesive. 745 00:31:25,459 --> 00:31:28,385 Um, I think they had hoped to see them, 746 00:31:28,462 --> 00:31:30,762 but it just... You know, every family has stuff, 747 00:31:30,764 --> 00:31:33,348 so the stars weren't aligned. 748 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:35,559 It's hard, you know, I think 749 00:31:35,561 --> 00:31:39,187 blending families... You know, Matt and I aren't married 750 00:31:39,189 --> 00:31:40,455 but I still went all in 751 00:31:40,457 --> 00:31:41,982 because I plan to spend my life with Matt. 752 00:31:42,059 --> 00:31:45,235 And so I love those kids like, 753 00:31:45,237 --> 00:31:46,904 seriously, like they were blood, 754 00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:49,990 and I don't really have any tools 755 00:31:50,067 --> 00:31:51,992 to fix this, 756 00:31:51,994 --> 00:31:54,953 and I have to let it run its course. It's his family. 757 00:31:54,955 --> 00:31:56,246 It is his family. 758 00:31:56,323 --> 00:31:58,624 He's gonna have to figure out how to fix this. 759 00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:02,044 You know, honestly, I remain really sad 760 00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,546 about the whole situation. I wish it had never happened. 761 00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:05,964 If we could go back in time, 762 00:32:06,041 --> 00:32:08,634 I know Matt and I would do things differently. 763 00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:12,638 I wish I knew how to move forward. I'm ready, 764 00:32:12,714 --> 00:32:16,183 and if I were to see an opportunity to fix it, 765 00:32:16,185 --> 00:32:17,809 I would be all over it. 766 00:32:17,886 --> 00:32:19,978 But the opportunity hasn't really come around 767 00:32:20,055 --> 00:32:22,397 that feels natural. 768 00:32:22,524 --> 00:32:26,443 When it all went down and the big meeting went bad, 769 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,614 I'm sure there were things that Matt said or I jumped in. 770 00:32:30,732 --> 00:32:33,742 I wish that after it was over, 771 00:32:33,786 --> 00:32:36,036 we could have sat and talked about it like adults. 772 00:32:36,038 --> 00:32:37,871 'Cause we didn't ever have a chance to say, 773 00:32:37,948 --> 00:32:39,289 "Wow, we didn't mean it that way. 774 00:32:39,366 --> 00:32:40,832 This is actually where we were coming from." 775 00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:42,584 We haven't had that opportunity 776 00:32:42,628 --> 00:32:45,921 because they just left, and so I don't know what to do. 777 00:32:47,091 --> 00:32:49,341 This whole thing has been painful. 778 00:32:49,418 --> 00:32:52,970 You know, if my kids weren't talking to me, 779 00:32:53,046 --> 00:32:55,138 I'd probably go show up on their doorstep 780 00:32:55,215 --> 00:32:56,556 and just be like, "Let's work this out. 781 00:32:56,558 --> 00:32:59,101 Like, time is getting away from us. 782 00:32:59,186 --> 00:33:01,061 I'm not... I don't like this." 783 00:33:01,138 --> 00:33:03,480 And I would love to do that, 784 00:33:03,557 --> 00:33:04,856 in this situation it's just not my place. 785 00:33:04,858 --> 00:33:06,858 Each family has their own dynamic, 786 00:33:06,935 --> 00:33:09,778 and so I can't instill my process on to this family. 787 00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:12,030 They have their way, and so 788 00:33:12,107 --> 00:33:15,826 I need to let Matt kind of work through this. 789 00:33:16,996 --> 00:33:21,039 So that... That's Matt's future home site. 790 00:33:21,116 --> 00:33:22,958 -That big pile of dirt. -[Jody] Oh. 791 00:33:23,002 --> 00:33:24,876 So it's hard to vision, 792 00:33:24,878 --> 00:33:26,962 but somewhere out here is the backyard. 793 00:33:27,006 --> 00:33:28,321 Somewhere out here. 794 00:33:28,398 --> 00:33:30,465 Maybe in a year from now, when you guys come, 795 00:33:30,467 --> 00:33:33,427 we'll be able to actually sit out here 796 00:33:33,503 --> 00:33:35,178 instead of the back of the DW. 797 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:38,306 How do you feel about maybe living here now? 798 00:33:38,308 --> 00:33:39,683 [Caryn] I'm excited. 799 00:33:39,685 --> 00:33:41,018 I don't think I care where we live, 800 00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:45,689 but it was time to move toward our future. 801 00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:48,525 The plan is for Matt and I to move in together 802 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,360 once the house build is complete. 803 00:33:50,437 --> 00:33:52,612 We've been together for many years, 804 00:33:52,689 --> 00:33:54,573 and we love being in Arizona together, 805 00:33:54,649 --> 00:33:56,825 that's kinda where we "lived together" on vacation. 806 00:33:56,869 --> 00:34:00,078 And so this will really feel solid. 807 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,039 Like kind of turning that final page 808 00:34:02,115 --> 00:34:04,291 on being together all the time, 809 00:34:04,293 --> 00:34:07,461 so it's exciting and slightly terrifying. 810 00:34:07,537 --> 00:34:11,131 I would be really sad if he builds this 811 00:34:11,208 --> 00:34:14,468 and then the kids don't feel like 812 00:34:14,544 --> 00:34:17,137 he's worthy of coming, or... 813 00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:20,932 You know, the idea is to have a space where we can look out 814 00:34:20,934 --> 00:34:24,186 and see all my grandchildren, his grandchildren, his kids. 815 00:34:24,188 --> 00:34:27,105 Right now everything is so turmoil, 816 00:34:27,182 --> 00:34:30,442 -and it's just so unfortunate. -Yeah. 817 00:34:30,444 --> 00:34:33,403 I don't know, I don't know how it fell apart so bad. 818 00:34:33,522 --> 00:34:34,321 Yeah. 819 00:34:34,397 --> 00:34:36,031 [Caryn] It was nice 820 00:34:36,075 --> 00:34:37,824 having a heartfelt conversation with Jody. 821 00:34:37,901 --> 00:34:39,868 It's just someone to bounce stuff off. 822 00:34:39,912 --> 00:34:41,578 They have family stuff, 823 00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,997 so we have a lot in common in that area. 824 00:34:43,999 --> 00:34:45,373 It's just... 825 00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:48,251 It's great to have great people in your life. 826 00:34:48,328 --> 00:34:51,379 Cheers. Next year we'll be toasting to some wine 827 00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:52,647 and maybe the kids will be 828 00:34:52,649 --> 00:34:54,091 out there running in the fields, right? 829 00:34:54,167 --> 00:34:55,759 You might have a new grandchild by then. 830 00:34:55,761 --> 00:34:57,302 [scoffs] 831 00:34:57,379 --> 00:34:58,595 [Caryn] I'm not sure where to go from here. 832 00:34:58,597 --> 00:35:00,931 I think I'm open but I'm not pushing. 833 00:35:01,007 --> 00:35:04,017 I heard a saying once: if you build it, they will come. 834 00:35:04,094 --> 00:35:06,436 Let's be hopeful on that. 835 00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:08,563 Well, I'm glad to have you. 836 00:35:08,607 --> 00:35:10,232 [Jody] I know! 837 00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:12,526 [Amy reading] 838 00:35:12,602 --> 00:35:13,835 [Bob] I know there's, like, 839 00:35:13,837 --> 00:35:16,279 a lot of turmoil, let's say, with family. 840 00:35:16,356 --> 00:35:18,448 [Matt] I mean, I think Zach's very upset. 841 00:35:18,525 --> 00:35:21,409 But he sat down, one conversation, 842 00:35:21,453 --> 00:35:22,744 and came out with demands. 843 00:35:22,779 --> 00:35:24,579 A lot of people say that 844 00:35:24,581 --> 00:35:27,249 I told the kids that they would inherit this property, 845 00:35:27,251 --> 00:35:29,793 and I never said anybody would inherit it. 846 00:35:29,870 --> 00:35:34,548 I definitely made some mistakes along the way. 847 00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:47,519 Root beer! Thank you. My favorite. 848 00:35:47,596 --> 00:35:49,771 -Cheers. -All right. 849 00:35:49,857 --> 00:35:51,231 What's up? 850 00:35:52,067 --> 00:35:53,358 Mmm. 851 00:35:54,111 --> 00:35:56,653 That's good root beer, baby. 852 00:35:56,730 --> 00:35:58,280 When are you going on your horseback... 853 00:35:58,323 --> 00:36:00,031 your horse-backing trip? 854 00:36:00,108 --> 00:36:02,242 We go Wednesday. 855 00:36:02,319 --> 00:36:06,163 Bobby, as we always called him through school, 856 00:36:06,281 --> 00:36:07,956 um, was always a cowboy. 857 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,624 He always wore a big belt buckle 858 00:36:09,668 --> 00:36:11,126 and a cowboy hat, that was his thing. 859 00:36:11,170 --> 00:36:14,004 And I was a little bit more of a hippy. 860 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,548 I had long hair, and he was a little bit more clean-cut 861 00:36:16,625 --> 00:36:20,177 Now he's retired and enjoying life 862 00:36:20,253 --> 00:36:23,180 and he sort of spends a fair amount of time on the road. 863 00:36:23,182 --> 00:36:26,892 And they come by and spend a week, and we hang out 864 00:36:26,968 --> 00:36:29,394 and share war stories. 865 00:36:29,471 --> 00:36:31,980 So, you've heard about all the craziness going on. 866 00:36:32,024 --> 00:36:33,648 That's one of the things why I wanted to come up here 867 00:36:33,692 --> 00:36:35,692 so I could get it from your mouth. 868 00:36:35,769 --> 00:36:37,527 There's a lot going on in the farm, huh? 869 00:36:37,604 --> 00:36:39,863 -Yeah. -I couldn't believe you're selling it. 870 00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:42,407 You know, I'm trying to... 871 00:36:42,484 --> 00:36:44,743 get to retirement stage. 872 00:36:44,745 --> 00:36:48,955 I know there's, like, a lot of turmoil, let's say, 873 00:36:49,032 --> 00:36:51,750 with the family and the farm and who's gonna live there 874 00:36:51,752 --> 00:36:53,752 and who's gonna buy it. How's that going? 875 00:36:54,588 --> 00:36:56,922 [Matt] Yeah, I mean, I think Zach's very upset, 876 00:36:56,998 --> 00:37:01,426 but he sat down, one conversation, 877 00:37:01,503 --> 00:37:03,303 and he came in with demands, 878 00:37:03,380 --> 00:37:04,537 -you know, that just couldn't be... -Oh, yeah. 879 00:37:04,614 --> 00:37:07,682 That went beyond price and had to do with 880 00:37:07,717 --> 00:37:09,809 all the other guarantees he wanted, you know? 881 00:37:09,811 --> 00:37:11,728 And the maintenance, and this, and... 882 00:37:11,846 --> 00:37:13,980 Things that I just, I, you know... 883 00:37:13,982 --> 00:37:16,733 couldn't accommodate. 884 00:37:16,810 --> 00:37:19,194 Family, negotiating with family's gotta be 885 00:37:19,196 --> 00:37:20,695 -a tough thing to do. -Yeah. 886 00:37:20,739 --> 00:37:22,447 Yes. I don't think, um... 887 00:37:22,524 --> 00:37:24,491 You might have a stubborn streak. 888 00:37:24,567 --> 00:37:26,743 -Have you ever seen the stubborn streak? -Yeah, I have. 889 00:37:26,745 --> 00:37:28,870 But I also know nobody that cares 890 00:37:28,914 --> 00:37:30,321 about his family more than you. 891 00:37:30,323 --> 00:37:32,624 And I don't know if your family understands that. 892 00:37:32,626 --> 00:37:34,834 I think that they, a lot of times they see 893 00:37:34,911 --> 00:37:38,088 kinda like crossing the Ts, dotting the Is and all that, 894 00:37:38,164 --> 00:37:40,382 and that you're some businessman and all that. 895 00:37:40,467 --> 00:37:41,816 I know different. 896 00:37:41,818 --> 00:37:43,510 -You have to take care of yourself. -Yeah. 897 00:37:43,512 --> 00:37:46,221 But I know you also wanna take care of your family. 898 00:37:46,265 --> 00:37:47,764 And I don't know if they see that 899 00:37:47,841 --> 00:37:49,474 as much as, like, I can, 900 00:37:49,551 --> 00:37:50,976 being from the outside looking in. 901 00:37:51,052 --> 00:37:52,585 [Matt] Mmm. 902 00:37:52,662 --> 00:37:55,105 The last thing I wanna do is open this all up again, 903 00:37:55,107 --> 00:37:56,398 but I feel much better 904 00:37:56,441 --> 00:37:59,150 having the chance to talk with an old buddy 905 00:37:59,152 --> 00:38:00,944 that I've known, and who's known me 906 00:38:00,979 --> 00:38:02,570 for as many years as he has. 907 00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:06,616 I definitely made some mistakes along the way, 908 00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:08,952 and I'd say one of my biggest mistakes 909 00:38:09,029 --> 00:38:13,873 was I continued to think that these kids would figure out 910 00:38:13,950 --> 00:38:15,792 how to keep the farm in the family, 911 00:38:15,869 --> 00:38:18,878 that legacy, but the problem was, 912 00:38:18,955 --> 00:38:21,214 if I'm gonna give you something, 913 00:38:21,291 --> 00:38:23,925 then to suddenly think, "Oh, wait a minute, I'm sorry, 914 00:38:23,927 --> 00:38:26,386 you should probably earn that a little bit," 915 00:38:26,463 --> 00:38:28,638 -it's hard to turn that corner. -Absolutely. Right. 916 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:30,974 [Matt] Lot of people say tha 917 00:38:31,051 --> 00:38:33,727 I told the kids that they would inherit this property, 918 00:38:33,762 --> 00:38:36,604 and I never said anybody would inherit it. 919 00:38:36,606 --> 00:38:37,939 I always said that hopefully we could 920 00:38:37,941 --> 00:38:39,441 keep this as a legacy. 921 00:38:39,484 --> 00:38:42,944 That made a giant assumption which was my fault. 922 00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:45,864 My assumption was that 923 00:38:45,940 --> 00:38:48,408 the kids were gonna work together as a team 924 00:38:48,410 --> 00:38:51,161 and share in the business. 925 00:38:51,237 --> 00:38:54,205 But everybody had different dreams and aspirations 926 00:38:54,282 --> 00:38:56,541 and goals for their own individual life. 927 00:38:56,543 --> 00:38:58,126 You can't blame them for that. 928 00:38:58,170 --> 00:39:03,506 But I cannot keep an expectation 929 00:39:03,583 --> 00:39:06,509 that no longer is valid. 930 00:39:06,511 --> 00:39:08,261 And you're beating yourself up 931 00:39:08,338 --> 00:39:10,347 over a lot of this stuff, you know, 932 00:39:10,423 --> 00:39:12,724 and you've done what you can do. 933 00:39:12,801 --> 00:39:15,935 But the idea that you gave them a choice of 934 00:39:15,937 --> 00:39:17,228 possibly owning that, 935 00:39:17,305 --> 00:39:18,980 you know, when you're still around 936 00:39:19,024 --> 00:39:22,233 is admirable, because I don't know anybody... 937 00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:23,693 My family wouldn't have done that. 938 00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:26,196 Have you ever heard the phrase "I created a monster"? 939 00:39:26,272 --> 00:39:28,156 Created a bunch of little monsters. 940 00:39:28,158 --> 00:39:30,200 -The farm is definitely a monster. -The farm's a monster. 941 00:39:30,276 --> 00:39:32,118 You also have four great kids. 942 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,829 Like, if I was gonna say something to them, 943 00:39:34,873 --> 00:39:37,165 I think that they did the right thing 944 00:39:37,209 --> 00:39:39,626 by creating a piece of their own world. 945 00:39:39,628 --> 00:39:41,336 I think they'll be happier for that. 946 00:39:41,338 --> 00:39:42,712 I agree with that. 947 00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:47,008 I think even though Zach never really said to me 948 00:39:47,010 --> 00:39:48,126 he wanted a blank slate, 949 00:39:48,128 --> 00:39:51,805 I do think that Zach did want that. 950 00:39:51,881 --> 00:39:55,975 He didn't want something that I was hovering over, 951 00:39:56,052 --> 00:39:57,977 and had all this expectation 952 00:39:57,979 --> 00:40:01,189 He wanted to be his own man with his own creations, 953 00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:04,192 and, um, I respected that. 954 00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:09,030 So, it sells tomorrow. What's next? 955 00:40:09,032 --> 00:40:12,033 I wanna split my time. 50%, you know, 956 00:40:12,035 --> 00:40:13,410 -would be my objective. -Right. 957 00:40:13,486 --> 00:40:15,745 Especially now that my folks are down there in Arizona, 958 00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:17,455 -Caryn's folks are down there. -That's right, that's right. 959 00:40:17,532 --> 00:40:19,249 As far as the pumpkin season, 960 00:40:19,325 --> 00:40:21,751 I'm just gonna do that 961 00:40:21,828 --> 00:40:23,253 for maybe another year, 962 00:40:23,329 --> 00:40:24,646 -maybe two. -Yeah, yeah. 963 00:40:24,648 --> 00:40:26,506 No, there's a lot of work that goes into that. 964 00:40:26,508 --> 00:40:29,426 I think one thing you deserve is you deserve retirement. 965 00:40:29,502 --> 00:40:31,386 Some people say retirement is not 966 00:40:31,388 --> 00:40:33,471 what it's cracked up to be, and it's not always. 967 00:40:33,548 --> 00:40:34,755 But I know for a fact 968 00:40:34,766 --> 00:40:37,183 you would have so many projects going on. 969 00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:39,644 And I can see you down there basket weaving 970 00:40:39,721 --> 00:40:42,272 -in one of those old folks' groups, you know? -Old folks' crochet club? 971 00:40:42,348 --> 00:40:43,857 We might be right there with you, you know? 972 00:40:43,859 --> 00:40:46,234 [both chuckle] 973 00:40:46,278 --> 00:40:48,069 Yeah. 974 00:40:48,071 --> 00:40:49,428 Bob's a straight shooter. 975 00:40:49,506 --> 00:40:51,531 Bob would tell me directly if he disagreed with me. 976 00:40:51,608 --> 00:40:55,743 And it meant a lot to me that he doesn't think 977 00:40:55,745 --> 00:40:58,830 I'm that far out of line of being fair 978 00:40:58,907 --> 00:41:01,666 and true to myself and, you know, to the family. 979 00:41:01,743 --> 00:41:03,585 Dealing with Zach, I'm just gonna do 980 00:41:03,628 --> 00:41:06,254 what I've always done, take little steps, 981 00:41:06,256 --> 00:41:11,134 and do what I can and don't dwell on what I can't change, 982 00:41:11,211 --> 00:41:13,219 and I'm just gonna keep trying. 983 00:41:13,296 --> 00:41:15,638 [Amy] Next on Little People, Big World... 984 00:41:15,715 --> 00:41:18,266 Bob and Jody's visit was really nice. 985 00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:20,894 I was able to share with Bob how disheartening it is 986 00:41:20,896 --> 00:41:22,228 that my kids aren't just celebrating 987 00:41:22,305 --> 00:41:23,855 experiences that they had, 988 00:41:23,857 --> 00:41:25,732 instead of focusing so much 989 00:41:25,767 --> 00:41:28,026 on what they're not gonna have in the future. 990 00:41:28,102 --> 00:41:30,695 [Caryn] This whole thing has been painful. 991 00:41:30,772 --> 00:41:34,115 The fact that it's still going on is heartbreaking. 992 00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:38,786 I sometimes am a little sensitive. 993 00:41:38,788 --> 00:41:40,747 I think it has a lot to do with 994 00:41:40,749 --> 00:41:43,416 trying to be so careful about my image 995 00:41:43,418 --> 00:41:46,002 and how people look at me throughout my whole life. 996 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:47,462 There are moments where, you know, 997 00:41:47,464 --> 00:41:50,340 it goes back to my childhood, that, um... 998 00:41:51,009 --> 00:41:52,592 Yeah. 999 00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:56,846 What you look at as "all okay" I look at it as critical. 1000 00:41:56,923 --> 00:41:58,515 Hey! 1001 00:41:58,517 --> 00:41:59,724 Thank you for inviting us. 1002 00:41:59,726 --> 00:42:02,227 My good friend Brian and his wife Geri 1003 00:42:02,229 --> 00:42:04,562 flew in from Texas a couple of days ago. 1004 00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:07,148 What did you guys think of Matt when you first met him? 1005 00:42:07,150 --> 00:42:08,816 You were a nice guy. You were nice to me. 1006 00:42:08,818 --> 00:42:10,693 You smiled straight to my face 1007 00:42:10,853 --> 00:42:11,736 when you stabbed me in the back. 1008 00:42:11,813 --> 00:42:13,655 [laughing] 1009 00:42:13,698 --> 00:42:15,573 Go, shoot it! Shoot it! 1010 00:42:15,575 --> 00:42:17,075 Nice, left foot! 1011 00:42:17,151 --> 00:42:19,077 I think Grandpa's gonna be out here soccer. 1012 00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:20,954 -[Jackson speaking] -And Cha Cha. 1013 00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:23,623 [Tori] Caryn tells other people that 1014 00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:24,999 she's waiting for our olive branch, 1015 00:42:25,043 --> 00:42:27,544 and that olive branch... 1016 00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:30,380 the dove took it to another island, I don't know.