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[narrator] Previously on
Little People, Big World.
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Brian.
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-Good to see you.
-You too.
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[Matthew] I met Brian
from the Little People
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of America Conference.
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We have these big conferences
once a year
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all over the United States.
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So did you get hit on a lot
when you went to the event?
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I said yes to him pretty
quick.
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[Matthew] Amy was new
in the national scene.
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And I remember saying,
"Who's the gal
with the hoops," you know?
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And kind of it went
from there.
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Caryn, have you ever gone
to one?
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No.
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Oh, so--
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I'm not sure if I'm looking
forward to it.
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Finally, I'm getting to go
along.
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And Zach and Tori
and the kids are also going
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I don't know how long
it's been since I've seen
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Jackson and Lilah.
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And I haven't gotten to see
Josiah yet.
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This rift with us
is heartbreaking, really.
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Goal to goal. Goal to goal.
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Go, shoot it. Shoot it.
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We're getting ready
for the LPA convention.
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I think grandpa
is gonna be at your soccer.
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[Jackson speaking]
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When we see my dad
and Caryn,
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it's just... it's not...
it's whatever.
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We'll be focused
on other things.
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Caryn tells other people
that she's waiting
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for our olive branch.
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And that olive branch,
the dove took it
to another island.
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I don't know.
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Who's going
to get there first?
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I think Mom's going
to get there first.
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Am I going to beat you?
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[Jackson speaking]
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Do you want me to push you?
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I'm going to beat you.
I'm almost there.
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We're back from our vacation
in Spokane
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at the LPA convention.
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Go, Jackson, go.
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LPA is Little People
of America.
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They host an annual conventi
every year
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around the United States.
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And then DAAA, which
is Dwarf Athletic Associatio
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of America, they host
the dwarf games in connection
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with LPA's convention.
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[woman] Come on, Jackson.
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Go, go!
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I work with the DAAA board
a lot.
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It was a fun time.
It was great.
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Jackson played some soccer
for the first time.
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Killed it.
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Seeing Jackson
hang out with fellow LPs
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was a lot of fun.
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[Chris speaking]
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Jackson's been
to other conferences,
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but he was super young.
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This is the first one that
he, like, participated in.
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All right, Jackson, go.
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I think it was a little
overwhelming, but I think
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he had a lot of fun.
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Jackson's so confident.
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He's a really confident kid
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And he enjoyed the experience.
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You got to get down there.
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So when he kicks it,
he's going to kick
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it to one of you guys.
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My mom was one of the foundi
members and athletes of DAAA
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So it is kind of
a generational thing.
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She was part of that
first group.
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And then and then me,
I came in and then now
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Jackson's participating.
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Here you go.
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Kick it hard.
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[woman] There you go.
He's picking it up.
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You know, Chris saw LPA
for the first time.
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I was wondering
if they'd all be looking
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at me like,
"Amy, what did you do?
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What did you do?"
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No, instead, they're looking
at you like,
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"What a lucky girl."
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Yeah.
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It was great reconnecting
with some people.
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Last time I saw them,
we were all kids.
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And now we're all dads.
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It can be an intimidating
thing to walk into it.
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It's just overwhelming.
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I think I was intimidated
'cause I took the, like,
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number one Bachelor of LPA.
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No, I don't know
if there's jealousy.
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[Tori] There was.
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We won't name names,
but there were
a couple ladies.
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Zach was like a wanted dude.
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Like, he's a good-looking
dude.
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I don't blame anyone.
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Are you guys ready?
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[Zach] Chris is very good
in social settings,
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so I'm sure he found his...
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his niche
and was able to survive.
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Hey, Jackson.
Can I give you some good luck?
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-[Caryn] Fist bump?
-Give me a five.
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Fist bump.
Fist bump would be better.
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[woman] Can I have one, too?
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I saw my dad and Caryn
at Jackson's soccer DAAA.
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Caryn got to meet Josiah.
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It was good
that she was able to see
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him and finally meet him.
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Jackson, go.
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It was a fun, like, first DAAA
experience for our family.
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This is a good spot.
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Nice and shady.
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We're happy to be home
in Battle Ground.
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And we still have so much
of the summer to enjoy.
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Summer's just getting going.
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Guys, you can ride
your scooter right here
if you want.
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Do you want a snack?
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Huh?
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Lilah, do you need
to go potty?
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Do you need to go potty?
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Don't go pee-pee
in your pants.
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Okay?
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We're starting to potty trai
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She's a little more interest
in potty training
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than Jackson ever was.
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You know, she has stuff
going on with her ears,
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and so our pediatrician
gave her...
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it's not a hearing test,
but it's like a pressure test
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that they... they send
something to the eardrum
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and it's supposed
to kick something back.
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It's like supposed to emit
something.
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And hers has flatlined,
which is like not good.
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That usually means
that there's water
behind her eardrums.
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And so we're gonna go see
an ear, nose, throat doctor
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like to see if it's affecting
her hearing and delaying
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her speech or what's going on.
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[indistinct]
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Isn't he so cute?
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Babe, we gave birth
to the same child twice,
though.
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Jackson and Josiah.
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-Yeah, they're twins.
-Yeah, they look identical.
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He's a little bit smaller,
I would say, than Jackson.
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Like Jackson was just
like he was like a chunk.
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Like a rumble.
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But they look very similar,
I think.
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their temperament
is definitely similar.
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Like, Josiah's definitely
starting to get a little bi
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more of like an attitude
then, like, Jackson.
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Like, Jackson was just chill.
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Jackson was solid.
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He was so chill.
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All right, so camp out
next week.
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How are you gonna get
that tent back up?
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[Jackson speaking]
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-[Zach] Yeah.
-With a little help of him?
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-Yeah, Jackson's gonna
help me.
-Yeah. I love it.
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It's going to take all...
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it's gonna be an all-day
thing.
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Jackson and I are gonna do
a campout on the property.
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When we were dating,
we had a campfire at the farm
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every single night.
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-Like, no joke,
no exaggeration.
-Yeah, every weekend.
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Now we have our own spot.
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We have a brand-new spot
for our own little campfire.
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It's just, like, glorious.
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Jackson. What do you want
to eat at the campfire?
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[Jackson speaking]
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You could cook some hot dogs.
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-Yeah, we can do hot dogs.
-Yeah, we can do hot dogs.
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And brown beans,
Dad's favorite.
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-Daddy can do the brown beans.
-My favorite.
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I would eat the whole can.
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[Jackson speaking]
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[Zach] I'll be in charge
of the dinner
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and we'll cook over the fire
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And keep it simple.
Just a little hot dog action
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Just loves a good bean.
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I love me
some fat brown beans.
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[Zach speaking]
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[Jackson speaking]
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[Lilah sobbing]
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Her life. Her life, man.
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It's so rough.
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Lilah has never been camping
so she doesn't have any
feelings.
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I will not be taking Lilah
camping, I'm sorry.
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I will take her
to the princess castles
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of all princess castles.
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I will not be taking
her camping.
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She won't be camping
in the backyard either.
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She's gonna be a handful.
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She already is a handful.
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We'll not be waking up
at 11:00 for her crying
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and saying, "Mumma, Mumma,
Mumma."
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I can't really picture her
camping at the moment.
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Do I get to sleep out there
with you?
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It's only two cots out there.
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Darn.
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Well, maybe one day,
Mom has her...
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I have a big air mattress
that we can put out there.
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[Jackson speaking]
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[Tori speaking]
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The new tent's just
for Zach and Jackson.
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It's gonna be sweaty
and it's gonna be...
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Dusty and...
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Dusty and dirty and--
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Sappy.
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My ideal camping situation
is like an RV
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or a hotel cabin.
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Yeah.
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Come here. You come here.
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You come hang out with Mom.
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[Zach] Unbelievable.
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[cooing]
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[Tori] Can you go get
the burp cloth, please?
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[cooing]
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That was disgusting.
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Oh, it's so pretty.
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Summer.
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There's like greens
and flowers and sunshine.
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[Matthew speaking]
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Mint. I got a lot of mint
at my house.
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So we just got back
from the LPA conference.
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And it was the 65th year
of the organization
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I've been a member, you know
since I was young.
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Hot coffee.
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Thank you.
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Croissant.
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Oh, they did have that.
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-They did.
-Excellent.
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It's very much like going
to a big-time class reunion
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or something.
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It's a lot of old friends.
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People that you've known
your entire life
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that you only get to see,
you know, every year
or every couple of years.
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And I enjoy it immensely.
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It's great to connect
with people, meet new people.
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Brought Caryn this year.
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I guess I didn't realize going
through that pamphlet
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and going
to some of those seminars
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and having all of those
renowned doctors there.
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And it was
very well organized.
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It was... it was a good time.
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Going to the LPA conference
was actually an honor.
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I was very excited
to be included
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because it's coveted to people
that are in that community.
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They are looking
for connection and resources.
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Yeah, it was great to watch
you catch up with all your old
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buddies and hear the stories.
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It was fun.
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[Caryn] This was my very fir
LPA conference.
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I've heard
about them for years
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and years and years.
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And I had a little teeny bit
of trepidation
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just 'cause I didn't know
what to expect.
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But honestly,
walked in the door.
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Everybody was welcoming.
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And being the average
sized person,
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I wasn't really
the odd man out.
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There was plenty of other
little people an average siz
there.
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It was astounding.
I had a really,
really good time.
264
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Of course, I was there
with my handsome boyfriend.
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But I enjoyed it
on many levels.
266
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And I met a ton
of Matt's old girlfriends.
267
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They're all very cute
and sassy, of course.
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Giving me the once over.
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They gave you the once over.
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I'm sure people were curious
about how...
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about meeting you.
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I'm sure they were.
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And I'm sure they were curious
about, you know,
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Amy and I interacted
and Chris, Amy, me,
you all interacted.
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But, you know, we hung
out with them a lot.
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[Chris] And how was your night
last night?
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Partied into the wee hours?
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Amy.
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These little people party.
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Any... Amy out-partied us.
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At one point, Amy came up
to me and whispered in my ear.
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She said, "Do you think people
are going to take sides
with us?"
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Like, "Well, if they are,
I don't feel it yet.
284
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Do you feel it?"
285
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She goes, "No, I don't,"
you know?
286
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Well, how could they?
287
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'Cause we were together,
so they couldn't pick a side.
288
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Right.
289
00:11:13,757 --> 00:11:16,341
There was no sides to pick.
290
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And I joked... I joked to Amy,
we should have had T-shirts
made.
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Mine, says "Team Amy"
and her says "Team Matt."
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I'll buy them.
293
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You'll buy them.
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That'll be awesome.
295
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I think all the other
little people that we've known
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our whole lives that know
that we've got divorced,
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I think they were all,
you know, realizing,
298
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"Hey, you don't have
to take sides.
299
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It's not Amy against Matt."
300
00:11:38,848 --> 00:11:42,742
You know, we weren't wrestling
common friends for each other,
301
00:11:42,744 --> 00:11:46,579
and we were just
Amy and Matt doing our thing.
302
00:11:46,581 --> 00:11:49,833
I was very impressed
by Jackson's little soccer
ability.
303
00:11:49,876 --> 00:11:52,752
He definitely knew
which way the goal was.
304
00:11:52,829 --> 00:11:55,213
Having a soccer dad coach
is probably helpful.
305
00:11:55,215 --> 00:11:56,840
[Matthew] Uh-huh.
306
00:11:56,842 --> 00:11:59,259
We went and saw Jackson
play soccer, obviously,
307
00:11:59,335 --> 00:12:03,179
because that was one
of the main reasons
that we went.
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00:12:03,181 --> 00:12:06,975
I think he just melded righ
into the whole concept.
309
00:12:07,051 --> 00:12:10,520
It was really,
really outstanding,
310
00:12:10,522 --> 00:12:14,274
fun to watch him interact
with other LPs of his size.
311
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Getting to watch Jackson,
you know, in his little
soccer tournament with
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not only his peers
in his age group,
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but they're all little
like him.
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And I don't know that
he's ever experienced that.
315
00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:27,620
So what a neat connection
to make at a young age.
316
00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:28,738
Yeah.
317
00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:30,707
And I got to meet Josiah.
He's cute.
318
00:12:30,709 --> 00:12:33,668
And when I went up
and said hi to Lilah.
319
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And I hadn't seen her
in a long time, you know,
320
00:12:36,173 --> 00:12:39,549
she's looking at me
and I said, "Can I sit down?"
321
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And I won her over with that.
322
00:12:40,927 --> 00:12:43,052
Next thing you know,
we're over playing rocks.
323
00:12:43,054 --> 00:12:44,846
Yeah, she liked that,
throwing rock with you.
324
00:12:44,923 --> 00:12:46,264
Yeah.
325
00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:48,475
It was so fun to get to see
Zach and Tori's kids.
326
00:12:48,477 --> 00:12:50,059
I mean, I hadn't seen him
in a while.
327
00:12:50,061 --> 00:12:51,770
And so it was just...
that was delightful.
328
00:12:51,846 --> 00:12:52,812
And I got to meet Josiah.
329
00:12:52,889 --> 00:12:54,588
He's a little...
little button.
330
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The National LPA Conference
was in Spokane, Washington,
331
00:12:58,779 --> 00:13:01,029
and that happens
to be where my daughter Moll
332
00:13:01,031 --> 00:13:02,447
and her husband Joel live.
333
00:13:02,524 --> 00:13:03,615
He's all fired up.
334
00:13:03,617 --> 00:13:04,616
It's all that matters.
335
00:13:04,692 --> 00:13:06,159
You got it, sis?
336
00:13:06,161 --> 00:13:08,703
Zach and Tori stayed
with Molly and Joel,
337
00:13:08,780 --> 00:13:10,580
but they were more focused
on the sport,
338
00:13:10,582 --> 00:13:12,582
which was at a local college
339
00:13:12,584 --> 00:13:14,334
so we didn't see
a lot of them.
340
00:13:14,410 --> 00:13:15,960
We saw them a couple of times
real briefly,
341
00:13:15,962 --> 00:13:17,520
you know, coming and going.
342
00:13:17,522 --> 00:13:20,715
But they were busy, you know,
taking care of the kids.
343
00:13:21,551 --> 00:13:23,676
I felt worn out
after the first couple days.
344
00:13:23,678 --> 00:13:28,848
I was... I was absolutely
exhausted after two days.
345
00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:30,558
Well, Arizona was nice.
346
00:13:30,635 --> 00:13:32,435
-Yeah.
-That was... that was fun.
347
00:13:32,437 --> 00:13:35,313
I think it's fantastic
that now when we go...
348
00:13:35,390 --> 00:13:37,357
it's not just my parents,
now it's your parents, too.
349
00:13:37,433 --> 00:13:39,609
-Yeah.
-And the fact
that they hang out.
350
00:13:39,611 --> 00:13:40,777
That's so funny.
351
00:13:40,779 --> 00:13:42,320
Very funny.
352
00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:46,366
After a couple of days
at the LPA, Caryn and I flew
353
00:13:46,442 --> 00:13:49,994
directly from Spokane
down to Phoenix.
354
00:13:49,996 --> 00:13:53,039
My folks relocated
from Central California
355
00:13:53,116 --> 00:13:56,960
down to Arizona,
and they love it.
356
00:13:56,962 --> 00:13:59,754
Both our parents,
without planning it
for years and years,
357
00:13:59,831 --> 00:14:01,214
ended up in the same zip code.
358
00:14:01,216 --> 00:14:02,549
And I'm sitting there
with my dad
359
00:14:02,551 --> 00:14:04,926
and he's like,
"Oh, Ron's calling."
360
00:14:06,096 --> 00:14:08,513
In the short time
that Matt's parents
361
00:14:08,515 --> 00:14:12,517
have been so close,
they've gotten close
to my parents.
362
00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:15,436
So looking forward to spending
a lot of time with them.
363
00:14:16,898 --> 00:14:18,431
Coming up.
364
00:14:18,433 --> 00:14:21,693
Have you ever talked to Matt
about this whole farm deal?
365
00:14:21,695 --> 00:14:24,362
We got into a little tiff
and he thinks he's owned
366
00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:25,655
up to all his mistakes.
367
00:14:25,657 --> 00:14:26,865
I'm like--
368
00:14:26,941 --> 00:14:29,951
I've noticed a change with Amy
speaking up.
369
00:14:30,028 --> 00:14:32,662
Now with the farm sale,
I think she's just
370
00:14:32,706 --> 00:14:33,997
finally said enough.
371
00:14:33,999 --> 00:14:35,665
And again, with Matt,
you need to own
372
00:14:35,709 --> 00:14:37,417
up to what you've done.
373
00:14:40,088 --> 00:14:41,287
[man] And later.
374
00:14:41,289 --> 00:14:43,089
I had a lot of fun
with him at LPA.
375
00:14:43,091 --> 00:14:44,799
But it has got me thinking.
376
00:14:44,801 --> 00:14:46,718
I feel like he is getting
close to realizing
377
00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,927
like he is different.
378
00:14:47,929 --> 00:14:50,037
[Tori] Yeah.
379
00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:52,140
He was paired up with kids
his age that are dwarfs
and he was like,
380
00:14:52,216 --> 00:14:53,540
"Why am I playing
with the babies?"
381
00:14:53,542 --> 00:14:57,437
Eventually it'll catch
on to him, that collision
382
00:14:57,513 --> 00:15:01,441
of confidence and self-worth
and then reality
383
00:15:01,517 --> 00:15:03,860
is what hurts the most.
384
00:15:12,537 --> 00:15:14,120
-I've never been here.
-I haven't either.
385
00:15:14,197 --> 00:15:15,663
-Thank you.
-Looks interesting.
386
00:15:20,462 --> 00:15:21,920
Look at the menu here first.
387
00:15:21,996 --> 00:15:24,130
Something is coming
towards us.
388
00:15:27,469 --> 00:15:28,468
Oh, dear.
389
00:15:28,470 --> 00:15:29,928
What?
390
00:15:29,930 --> 00:15:31,679
Okay. They talk about this.
391
00:15:31,756 --> 00:15:32,931
I have never seen this.
392
00:15:33,007 --> 00:15:34,515
I have not either.
393
00:15:34,592 --> 00:15:35,850
Is that, like, even for us?
394
00:15:35,927 --> 00:15:37,435
Maybe not.
395
00:15:37,512 --> 00:15:38,728
Oh, I guess it is.
396
00:15:38,772 --> 00:15:40,563
We are table four, I think.
397
00:15:40,565 --> 00:15:41,940
You want to grab it for both?
398
00:15:42,016 --> 00:15:43,191
Okay.
399
00:15:43,267 --> 00:15:44,734
Especially after COVID,
400
00:15:44,778 --> 00:15:47,028
some restaurants
are trying out
401
00:15:48,490 --> 00:15:51,741
these robot type things.
402
00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:54,118
Okay, I think
we have to push done.
403
00:15:54,195 --> 00:15:56,120
-Oh, yeah.
-Oh.
404
00:15:57,290 --> 00:15:58,581
-Okay.
-Wow. That's...
405
00:15:58,583 --> 00:15:59,865
Wow.
406
00:15:59,867 --> 00:16:01,793
[Amy] See you later,
you scooter thing, you.
407
00:16:03,630 --> 00:16:05,838
[Lisa] Okay,
we have to catch up.
408
00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,382
We haven't...
You've been gone.
409
00:16:07,384 --> 00:16:08,466
I've been gone.
410
00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:09,592
No, really. Seriously.
411
00:16:09,594 --> 00:16:11,594
We've lost two months.
412
00:16:11,596 --> 00:16:12,887
We're getting old.
413
00:16:12,964 --> 00:16:14,097
-[Lisa] I know.
-We're getting old.
414
00:16:14,099 --> 00:16:15,139
Time is flying.
415
00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:16,391
[Lisa] Well, that is true.
416
00:16:16,393 --> 00:16:18,726
-And... oh, my goodness.
-Wow.
417
00:16:18,728 --> 00:16:20,687
Look at this wow.
418
00:16:20,689 --> 00:16:21,771
[woman speaking]
419
00:16:21,773 --> 00:16:22,981
-Okay.
-Oh, okay.
420
00:16:23,057 --> 00:16:24,857
-[woman speaking]
-So does he have a name?
421
00:16:24,859 --> 00:16:26,401
Oh, this is the fondue
right here?
422
00:16:26,403 --> 00:16:27,652
[woman speaking]
423
00:16:27,654 --> 00:16:29,445
Oh. Shoshanna.
424
00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:30,530
-All right.
-Thank you.
425
00:16:30,532 --> 00:16:32,407
Thanks, Shoshanna.
Is that her name?
426
00:16:32,409 --> 00:16:34,951
Yeah, Shoshanna.
See you later.
427
00:16:34,953 --> 00:16:36,953
-Oh, my goodness.
-Where do we start?
428
00:16:38,123 --> 00:16:40,790
How was the LPA conference?
429
00:16:40,792 --> 00:16:42,834
It was very interesting
with Chris
430
00:16:42,836 --> 00:16:44,318
going to the conference.
431
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,423
I said, "Babe, you're going
to be the sequoia amongst
432
00:16:48,425 --> 00:16:53,177
all these little bushes,
you know, or something."
433
00:16:53,179 --> 00:16:57,181
And I said, "I can't tell you
whether to kneel down
434
00:16:57,183 --> 00:17:00,018
or take a knee, kneel down,
just be eye to eye,
435
00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:01,519
'cause some little people,
436
00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:02,812
if you do do that,
then they're like,
437
00:17:02,856 --> 00:17:03,913
Hey, you don't have
to do that."
438
00:17:03,915 --> 00:17:06,566
-Yeah.
-But no, Chris loved it.
439
00:17:06,568 --> 00:17:09,694
This was Chris's first time
going to a national
conference.
440
00:17:09,771 --> 00:17:12,947
I tried to prep Chris,
but not too much.
441
00:17:13,024 --> 00:17:15,116
But from what he told me,
I mean,
442
00:17:15,118 --> 00:17:16,868
he had a great time.
443
00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:20,079
He met some great people,
people I've known for a long,
long time.
444
00:17:20,081 --> 00:17:22,915
They were very welcoming,
very accepting of him.
445
00:17:22,917 --> 00:17:25,209
I was very appreciative.
446
00:17:25,286 --> 00:17:29,505
So have you ever talked
to Matt about how you felt
447
00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:31,507
about this whole farm deal?
448
00:17:31,509 --> 00:17:33,551
Well, towards the end,
you know, when he was thinking
449
00:17:33,628 --> 00:17:36,262
about putting the place
up for sale.
450
00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:38,097
We got in a little tiff.
451
00:17:38,099 --> 00:17:40,308
You don't admit to anything.
452
00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:42,602
Well, I'm taking
responsibility, so.
453
00:17:42,678 --> 00:17:46,147
[Amy speaking]
454
00:17:46,149 --> 00:17:47,982
There's a lot going on...
455
00:17:47,984 --> 00:17:50,359
There's a lot going
on that you don't know about.
456
00:17:51,654 --> 00:17:54,072
He thinks he's owned
up to all his mistakes.
457
00:17:54,148 --> 00:17:57,909
I'm like, "Well, I think
you better ask all four of us.
458
00:17:57,985 --> 00:17:59,368
I don't know."
459
00:17:59,412 --> 00:18:01,153
Wow.
460
00:18:01,155 --> 00:18:04,332
It can't just be,
"They did this
and it couldn't be worked out.
461
00:18:04,408 --> 00:18:06,667
I tried to do this,
but they just, you know,
462
00:18:06,669 --> 00:18:08,068
wouldn't hear of it."
463
00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:10,213
I think in order for things
to rectify,
464
00:18:10,215 --> 00:18:12,090
you've got to let
the kids know,
465
00:18:12,092 --> 00:18:13,633
"Hey, I had a part
in this, too.
466
00:18:13,635 --> 00:18:16,427
I probably could have done
something different to see
467
00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:18,221
if this would have
worked out."
468
00:18:18,223 --> 00:18:20,264
Well, I'm glad
you had your voice,
469
00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:24,393
if that's what came out of it
and you were able to stand up.
470
00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:27,855
I know a lot
of many, many years
471
00:18:27,932 --> 00:18:30,733
where you held it in
and held it in.
472
00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:31,984
Boy, did I hold it in.
473
00:18:31,986 --> 00:18:34,612
I always had a tendency
to hold it in.
474
00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:36,656
He... he oversteps,
475
00:18:36,658 --> 00:18:41,285
he... he out maneuvers
everything.
476
00:18:41,287 --> 00:18:44,122
I've noticed a change
with Amy speaking up.
477
00:18:44,198 --> 00:18:47,542
And even sometimes with Chris,
there are things that I think
478
00:18:47,618 --> 00:18:50,002
she was passive in the past
and now she's like,
479
00:18:50,079 --> 00:18:52,255
"No, this is important to me,
and I want you
480
00:18:52,257 --> 00:18:54,190
to hear what I have to say."
481
00:18:54,192 --> 00:18:57,135
Now with the farm sale,
I think she's just
finally said,
482
00:18:57,137 --> 00:18:59,178
"Enough.
This is how I feel."
483
00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:03,182
And, and, with Matt, you nee
to own up to what you've don
484
00:19:03,184 --> 00:19:05,935
To see the farm not go
to one of the kids
485
00:19:05,979 --> 00:19:08,396
when that was their dream,
it's just really sad
486
00:19:08,398 --> 00:19:10,314
for me to see that.
487
00:19:10,316 --> 00:19:14,485
Once the sale happens, maybe
that will be an opportunity
488
00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:18,823
over time to break down
and, you know,
489
00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:23,703
maybe he can or maybe the kids
will be a lot more comfortable
490
00:19:23,779 --> 00:19:26,164
coming into something
that works for them.
491
00:19:26,166 --> 00:19:28,291
As a relationship, you mean?
492
00:19:28,334 --> 00:19:29,500
Yeah.
493
00:19:29,577 --> 00:19:31,127
I know the boys
are really hurt.
494
00:19:31,129 --> 00:19:33,921
I've actually
had some conversations
495
00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:35,756
with... with them.
496
00:19:35,758 --> 00:19:38,009
And I don't know.
497
00:19:38,127 --> 00:19:39,677
That's something
that's a healing process
498
00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:42,972
because the kids, really,
their heart was into it.
499
00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:46,559
And I just don't know
if that came into play
500
00:19:46,561 --> 00:19:49,687
when the sale came
about the way it did.
501
00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:52,481
I think it was maybe more
financially driven.
502
00:19:52,483 --> 00:19:54,817
This wasn't a family deal.
503
00:19:54,819 --> 00:19:56,360
It was a business deal.
504
00:19:56,437 --> 00:19:57,645
They're done.
505
00:19:57,721 --> 00:19:59,113
They're not looking
at buying the farm.
506
00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:00,239
No.
507
00:20:00,241 --> 00:20:01,532
It's like done.
508
00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:03,284
You move on.
509
00:20:03,361 --> 00:20:04,702
Yeah.
510
00:20:13,630 --> 00:20:16,505
[Jackson speaking]
511
00:20:40,782 --> 00:20:42,573
[Jackson speaking]
512
00:20:42,575 --> 00:20:45,034
-What?
-[Jackson speaking]
513
00:20:49,123 --> 00:20:50,248
[Zach] Jackson and I
are setting up
514
00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:51,666
the new canvas tent.
515
00:20:51,668 --> 00:20:53,834
We're gonna have a family
campfire dinner,
516
00:20:53,836 --> 00:20:55,169
but only Jackson and I,
517
00:20:55,246 --> 00:20:56,462
are gonna be camping
out tonight.
518
00:20:58,508 --> 00:21:00,424
[Jackson speaking]
519
00:21:02,387 --> 00:21:04,887
Jackson, you're the one
that's supposed
to be helping me.
520
00:21:04,889 --> 00:21:06,472
Why did you give him
a popsicle
521
00:21:06,474 --> 00:21:08,307
when he was supposed
to be helping me?
522
00:21:08,309 --> 00:21:10,351
I wanted a popsicle,
and I knew if I got
523
00:21:10,353 --> 00:21:13,145
a popsicle, I'd be in trouble
if I didn't get them one, so.
524
00:21:14,399 --> 00:21:16,732
-Unbelievable.
-I didn't think
that one through.
525
00:21:19,988 --> 00:21:21,112
See that.
526
00:21:21,114 --> 00:21:23,030
Oops, can you get that one?
527
00:21:28,329 --> 00:21:31,163
I loved going camping
as a kid with the family.
528
00:21:31,165 --> 00:21:33,541
When I was a kid,
me and my dad would take
529
00:21:33,543 --> 00:21:37,003
us camping far out
in the Oregon wilderness.
530
00:21:37,005 --> 00:21:38,546
And it was always a fun time
531
00:21:38,548 --> 00:21:41,299
Go!
532
00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:42,675
[Zach] One of my favorite
things to do.
533
00:21:42,677 --> 00:21:44,427
[gun fires]
534
00:21:45,722 --> 00:21:47,763
Now, yeah, extending
that to Jackson,
535
00:21:47,807 --> 00:21:49,932
I hope he likes to go
be outdoors
536
00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:52,435
and this helps develop
that love.
537
00:21:53,604 --> 00:21:56,397
I'm excited for when Josiah
and Lilah get older,
538
00:21:56,399 --> 00:21:59,734
and we can all do
a big family campout.
539
00:21:59,736 --> 00:22:01,527
All right, bring me
a yellow one.
540
00:22:03,031 --> 00:22:04,155
And go.
541
00:22:04,231 --> 00:22:05,656
You did that fast.
542
00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:08,826
God bless whoever color
coordinated these.
543
00:22:08,903 --> 00:22:10,369
You did great, though, babe.
544
00:22:10,371 --> 00:22:11,996
You've already got the roof.
545
00:22:11,998 --> 00:22:13,748
Oh, here comes the hard part.
546
00:22:15,293 --> 00:22:19,962
[Jackson speaking]
547
00:22:22,467 --> 00:22:25,593
On a scale of one to ten,
how helpful is Jackson?
548
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:28,262
Uh, he's been helpful
for a second there.
549
00:22:28,339 --> 00:22:30,139
[Tori] Is Daddy so good?
550
00:22:30,174 --> 00:22:31,432
[Jackson speaking]
551
00:22:33,061 --> 00:22:34,643
[Zach] Pole, Jackson.
552
00:22:34,645 --> 00:22:36,437
All right, drop the pole.
553
00:22:40,735 --> 00:22:42,151
Yay!
554
00:22:42,153 --> 00:22:43,176
Good job.
555
00:22:43,254 --> 00:22:45,237
Good job, Jackson.
Very helpful.
556
00:22:45,314 --> 00:22:48,991
Even though Jackson started
off slow, he came through.
557
00:22:48,993 --> 00:22:50,701
Wow!
558
00:22:51,913 --> 00:22:53,954
Good job, boys.
559
00:22:53,956 --> 00:22:55,706
[Zach speaking]
560
00:22:57,001 --> 00:22:58,667
[Jackson speaking]
561
00:22:58,669 --> 00:23:00,127
Just the boys.
562
00:23:00,129 --> 00:23:01,712
Why can't the girls come?
563
00:23:01,789 --> 00:23:04,298
[Jackson speaking]
564
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:07,051
-Yeah.
-[Jackson speaking]
565
00:23:09,222 --> 00:23:11,097
[Tori speaking]
566
00:23:11,099 --> 00:23:13,557
[Jackson speaking]
567
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:16,310
Now it's time for just
the boys to set
568
00:23:16,312 --> 00:23:17,603
everything up in the tent.
569
00:23:17,605 --> 00:23:19,522
What are you going
to bring in the tent?
570
00:23:19,565 --> 00:23:20,898
Um, my pillow.
571
00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:22,817
[Zach] Pillow and your pal.
572
00:23:22,819 --> 00:23:24,944
[Jackson] Bunny and--
573
00:23:24,946 --> 00:23:26,612
And shall we bring
some board games?
574
00:23:26,614 --> 00:23:28,155
Yeah. Like, Trouble.
575
00:23:28,157 --> 00:23:30,199
[Jackson speaking]
576
00:23:31,661 --> 00:23:32,827
Thank you.
577
00:23:32,829 --> 00:23:34,120
Can't wait to camp out
with you.
578
00:23:34,122 --> 00:23:36,288
[Jackson speaking]
579
00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:37,957
In business.
580
00:23:39,001 --> 00:23:40,167
Hope the bumpers are up.
581
00:23:40,169 --> 00:23:42,586
[man] Coming up.
582
00:23:42,663 --> 00:23:43,879
Bowling is a little tricky
for me.
583
00:23:43,881 --> 00:23:45,131
That's a bad one.
584
00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:47,466
My fingers don't really
fit in the hole.
585
00:23:47,543 --> 00:23:48,717
Good one.
586
00:23:48,719 --> 00:23:51,345
Oh, that wasn't right.
587
00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:53,505
And later.
588
00:23:53,582 --> 00:23:55,558
When it comes to Jackson
being different, I don't think
589
00:23:55,601 --> 00:23:57,309
he's caught on yet.
590
00:23:57,311 --> 00:23:59,645
We haven't had the talk
about how we're different
591
00:23:59,722 --> 00:24:01,346
than everyone else.
592
00:24:01,348 --> 00:24:04,066
I worry about, like, he's so
like, has such confidence
593
00:24:04,068 --> 00:24:06,068
in himself, I hope
that that doesn't break
594
00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:07,519
him down, you know?
595
00:24:07,596 --> 00:24:10,698
That's like part of the sad
thing of the transition
596
00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:12,616
of like being a dwarf
and then recognizing
597
00:24:12,618 --> 00:24:15,494
like, "Oh, wow,
I am being left behind."
598
00:24:31,512 --> 00:24:32,720
[Ty] Hi there.
599
00:24:32,796 --> 00:24:34,180
How's it going?
600
00:24:34,256 --> 00:24:35,756
Good.
601
00:24:35,758 --> 00:24:39,268
We're here to do some bowling,
so I need, like, 10.5s.
602
00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:40,302
Ten-and-a-halves.
603
00:24:40,304 --> 00:24:41,937
I'm just going to keep
my shoes.
604
00:24:41,939 --> 00:24:43,481
I know that kind of breaks
the rules, but yeah.
605
00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:44,648
-Not a problem.
-Is that okay?
606
00:24:44,725 --> 00:24:46,233
You sure you don't want
bowling shoes?
607
00:24:46,235 --> 00:24:50,029
No, I would...
I would trip and fall.
608
00:24:50,031 --> 00:24:51,822
Ty's kind of bigger than lif
609
00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:54,909
You know, him and I go
way back, and he's a fun guy.
610
00:24:54,985 --> 00:24:56,702
When's the last time
you went bowling?
611
00:24:56,779 --> 00:24:58,537
Oh, probably
about ten years ago.
612
00:24:58,539 --> 00:25:00,498
You guys are gonna stay
in the same house together?
613
00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:02,500
[Matt] No, we're going to show
them our house,
614
00:25:02,576 --> 00:25:04,710
but we're not going
to... we're not going to go
that far.
615
00:25:04,712 --> 00:25:06,879
[Ty] A lot of people marry
their spouse a second time.
616
00:25:06,881 --> 00:25:08,047
My friend Tina.
617
00:25:08,123 --> 00:25:09,215
[Matt] What?
We're not going there.
618
00:25:09,217 --> 00:25:11,509
-Yeah, yeah.
-You need to just stop.
619
00:25:11,511 --> 00:25:13,427
I don't even really remembe
when the first time
620
00:25:13,429 --> 00:25:15,846
I met him,
but we immediately clicked.
621
00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:18,057
And we've been buddies
ever since.
622
00:25:18,059 --> 00:25:19,683
Okay.
623
00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,018
Bowling.
624
00:25:21,095 --> 00:25:23,729
Hope the... hope bumpers
are up.
625
00:25:23,731 --> 00:25:24,855
Ready, Ty?
626
00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:26,232
[Ty] I'm ready.
627
00:25:27,944 --> 00:25:29,276
[Matthew] Bowling's cool.
628
00:25:29,278 --> 00:25:30,819
I enjoy it.
629
00:25:30,821 --> 00:25:32,947
Oh!
630
00:25:32,949 --> 00:25:34,365
That wasn't right.
631
00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:35,741
Not good.
632
00:25:35,743 --> 00:25:37,701
But bowling's
a little tricky for me.
633
00:25:37,703 --> 00:25:40,704
First off, my fingers
don't really fit in the hole.
634
00:25:40,706 --> 00:25:43,123
In any of the holes...
any of my fingers.
635
00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:46,126
[Matthew speaking]
636
00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:52,633
Although I should try
that sometime.
637
00:25:52,635 --> 00:25:54,718
But I do have fun
just pushing it down.
638
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,098
And, you know, I try
to push it as fast
as you can so that
639
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,392
it doesn't roll
into the gutter.
640
00:26:01,468 --> 00:26:03,561
-I put a little spin on it.
-There you go.
641
00:26:06,899 --> 00:26:09,483
Oh, good one.
642
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,859
It's going to curve over.
643
00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:12,403
That's a bad one.
644
00:26:14,824 --> 00:26:16,532
Nice form, Ty.
645
00:26:16,534 --> 00:26:17,950
Oh, right there.
646
00:26:17,952 --> 00:26:19,201
You got it.
647
00:26:20,413 --> 00:26:21,579
[Ty] Right down the center.
648
00:26:21,581 --> 00:26:22,830
[Zach] Here we go.
649
00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:26,208
[Ty] Oh, there you go.
650
00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:27,960
[Zach] There you go, baby.
651
00:26:27,962 --> 00:26:29,211
You got it.
652
00:26:30,339 --> 00:26:31,922
Good job.
653
00:26:31,999 --> 00:26:34,091
Going bowling was kind of fun.
654
00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:35,801
I don't know
why I don't do it more often.
655
00:26:35,878 --> 00:26:38,178
It took a little toll
on the ol' body,
656
00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:40,639
but it was, for the most part,
pretty enjoyable.
657
00:26:40,641 --> 00:26:42,391
Okay, take a break.
658
00:26:42,393 --> 00:26:44,268
What do you think
so far, huh?
659
00:26:44,270 --> 00:26:45,603
Yeah. I'm glad.
660
00:26:45,605 --> 00:26:48,022
It's good to get out,
get away from the farm.
661
00:26:48,024 --> 00:26:49,181
Go out with you.
662
00:26:49,183 --> 00:26:50,891
-There you go.
-We're not somewhere...
663
00:26:50,893 --> 00:26:53,527
Are you still excited
to sell it?
What's going on with that?
664
00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:57,156
Yeah. Well, we had people
looking at it today.
665
00:26:57,232 --> 00:26:59,617
-[Ty] Oh, you did?
-Yeah. Second visit.
666
00:27:00,911 --> 00:27:02,745
Tomorrow, a third visit.
667
00:27:02,747 --> 00:27:03,871
Wow.
668
00:27:03,873 --> 00:27:06,749
A couple of new folks
had come in
669
00:27:06,751 --> 00:27:08,626
to look at the property
in the north side.
670
00:27:08,628 --> 00:27:12,880
And I'm pleased
with the interest level.
671
00:27:12,882 --> 00:27:14,923
You excited
to have a neighbor?
672
00:27:14,925 --> 00:27:17,968
Yeah. I mean, it's... it's sad
and happy.
673
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:19,887
I mean, it's like a relief,
you know.
674
00:27:19,963 --> 00:27:21,555
I'm not so sorry
about the big house...
675
00:27:21,632 --> 00:27:23,123
[Ty] Right.
676
00:27:23,142 --> 00:27:24,683
...because I haven't lived
there for however many years.
677
00:27:24,685 --> 00:27:26,143
-It's been a long time.
-Long time.
678
00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:27,603
-[Ty] Long time.
-[Zach] Oh, here comes.
679
00:27:27,605 --> 00:27:29,388
All right.
680
00:27:29,464 --> 00:27:31,774
Are we okay down here? I know
that's kind of breaking
the rules.
681
00:27:31,817 --> 00:27:33,525
Absolutely. No, you can drink
it right down here.
682
00:27:33,602 --> 00:27:35,402
-Thank you. Yeah.
-Bacardi with Diet.
683
00:27:35,404 --> 00:27:36,779
Perfect. Thank you.
Thank you, my friend.
684
00:27:36,781 --> 00:27:38,063
Cheers.
685
00:27:38,065 --> 00:27:40,115
When I bought the farm,
I said to myself...
686
00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:42,868
[Matthew speaking]
687
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:45,412
To me it's just, "Okay,
so it took 30 years, but..."
688
00:27:45,489 --> 00:27:46,455
Right.
689
00:27:46,457 --> 00:27:48,415
I'm not feeling quite as sad.
690
00:27:48,417 --> 00:27:51,293
I think I'm feeling
more a sense of relief.
691
00:27:51,295 --> 00:27:53,295
[Matthew speaking]
692
00:27:53,297 --> 00:27:54,838
[Matthew] And I think
Amy did, too.
693
00:27:54,915 --> 00:27:57,091
And I think some of the kids
kind of, you know, it's hard.
694
00:27:57,167 --> 00:27:58,634
It's where they grew up.
695
00:27:58,636 --> 00:28:01,845
My prayer and my wish
is I want them to look back
696
00:28:01,847 --> 00:28:03,639
and think about
the good memories
697
00:28:03,641 --> 00:28:05,808
and how it was amazing
childhood
698
00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:07,309
and that it was wonderful.
699
00:28:07,353 --> 00:28:08,769
Yeah, that's interesting.
700
00:28:08,846 --> 00:28:10,938
It'd be interesting
when you build a house...
701
00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:13,273
-Oh, yeah.
-...what your feelings.
702
00:28:13,275 --> 00:28:14,441
Did you hear
what we found out?
703
00:28:14,518 --> 00:28:15,734
No.
704
00:28:15,811 --> 00:28:17,277
They're telling me
that it's going to take,
705
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,613
like, six months to get
a permit.
706
00:28:19,615 --> 00:28:20,939
That's what it just took us.
707
00:28:21,016 --> 00:28:22,616
That puts me right
in the middle of rainy season.
708
00:28:22,693 --> 00:28:24,868
Now I got to wait
till it dries out again.
709
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:26,537
Yeah, you can't build
that house in the...
710
00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:27,955
Nah, it's not going
to happen this year.
711
00:28:27,957 --> 00:28:29,373
[Ty] Wow.
712
00:28:29,375 --> 00:28:32,251
Well, the new house build,
713
00:28:32,327 --> 00:28:36,839
it's... the word
that I heard today is logjam.
714
00:28:36,841 --> 00:28:42,344
There's a logjam at the county
for the permitting process.
715
00:28:42,346 --> 00:28:45,055
So the new house project
is going to take longer.
716
00:28:45,057 --> 00:28:47,015
A little bit frustrating.
717
00:28:47,017 --> 00:28:51,478
It's a long time.
It sets me back almost a year.
718
00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:54,732
I think Caryn's disappointe
about what's happening.
719
00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:57,609
Right now, we're just
sort of hanging out in limbo.
720
00:28:57,686 --> 00:29:00,779
It just doesn't make sense
for us, for me to propose
to her,
721
00:29:00,781 --> 00:29:02,948
for us to get married
until we have a place
722
00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:04,557
that we can land in.
723
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:07,077
And neither one of our house
work for each other.
724
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:09,913
So it's just very,
very disappointing.
725
00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:11,832
He's behind by ten points.
726
00:29:11,834 --> 00:29:14,793
He throws it down
for the good old man.
727
00:29:16,297 --> 00:29:18,547
What did I tell you?
728
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:20,424
-I won.
-I lost by two.
729
00:29:21,927 --> 00:29:23,594
Oh, jeez.
730
00:29:23,596 --> 00:29:25,053
I love it.
731
00:29:27,975 --> 00:29:29,224
[man] Coming up.
732
00:29:29,226 --> 00:29:30,684
We're keeping it simple.
733
00:29:30,686 --> 00:29:32,394
Hot dogs, buns, and ketchup
734
00:29:32,396 --> 00:29:34,062
That's it.
We don't need anything else.
735
00:29:34,064 --> 00:29:35,189
We all ended up
just eating hot dogs
736
00:29:35,191 --> 00:29:36,848
because we didn't have
any beans.
737
00:29:36,925 --> 00:29:38,984
'Cause I forgot the beans
'cause I did the grocery
shopping.
738
00:29:39,061 --> 00:29:41,403
But you also didn't put
in an order for beans.
739
00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:43,489
Oh, you're about to get
crushed.
740
00:29:43,565 --> 00:29:45,491
[producer speaking]
741
00:29:56,879 --> 00:29:58,545
Lilah, are you going
night-night?
742
00:29:58,622 --> 00:29:59,871
Yes.
743
00:29:59,873 --> 00:30:02,424
No. We're going to do
a fire and do hotdogs.
744
00:30:02,426 --> 00:30:04,718
You're gonna cook
your own hotdog.
745
00:30:10,726 --> 00:30:13,101
[Zach speaking]
746
00:30:13,103 --> 00:30:16,104
We're keeping it simple.
Hot dogs, buns and ketchup.
747
00:30:16,106 --> 00:30:17,773
That's it.
I don't need anything else.
748
00:30:17,775 --> 00:30:18,982
We all ended up just eating
hot dogs
749
00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:20,692
because we didn't have
any beans.
750
00:30:20,694 --> 00:30:22,820
'Cause I forgot the beans
'cause I did the grocery
shopping.
751
00:30:22,822 --> 00:30:23,862
So we had no beans.
752
00:30:23,864 --> 00:30:24,905
[producer speaking]
753
00:30:24,907 --> 00:30:26,698
She actually
forgot the beans.
754
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,076
But you also didn't put
in an order for beans.
755
00:30:29,152 --> 00:30:30,536
I... It was discussed.
756
00:30:30,538 --> 00:30:32,204
I would like to point out
that you didn't put
757
00:30:32,206 --> 00:30:33,705
in an order for hot dogs
either.
758
00:30:33,707 --> 00:30:35,057
It was discussed.
759
00:30:35,059 --> 00:30:38,210
I don't think I was there
for that discussion.
760
00:30:38,212 --> 00:30:40,170
Oh, you're about
to get crushed.
761
00:30:40,247 --> 00:30:41,421
-[producer speaking]
-Roll the tape.
762
00:30:41,423 --> 00:30:42,564
Where was that?
763
00:30:42,566 --> 00:30:44,758
-Gosh.
-When did we talk about it?
764
00:30:44,835 --> 00:30:46,969
-Yeah, we can do hot dogs.
-We can do some hot dogs.
765
00:30:46,971 --> 00:30:48,720
And brown beans.
Dad's favorite.
766
00:30:48,722 --> 00:30:50,931
-Daddy can do the brown beans.
-My favorite.
767
00:30:54,812 --> 00:30:57,855
-Is that going to be
your hot dog stick, J?
-Yep.
768
00:30:57,857 --> 00:31:00,566
[Zach] I think he needs
a bigger one. Doesn't he need
like a big, thick one.
769
00:31:00,568 --> 00:31:01,900
I like that one.
770
00:31:01,902 --> 00:31:02,943
Thought that was a good one.
771
00:31:03,020 --> 00:31:04,653
I want this one.
772
00:31:04,697 --> 00:31:07,030
Tori, do you think
I could just cook on this?
773
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,867
But then why did we just
do those sticks?
774
00:31:09,869 --> 00:31:11,785
That was a waste of time.
775
00:31:11,862 --> 00:31:13,078
Ma.
776
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,204
I don't know.
777
00:31:14,206 --> 00:31:15,614
I got the grill.
778
00:31:15,690 --> 00:31:17,023
But then also,
it's fun to like I actually
779
00:31:17,025 --> 00:31:18,792
have a hot dog on a stick,
so I'm whittling
780
00:31:18,869 --> 00:31:20,285
the sticks down.
781
00:31:20,362 --> 00:31:22,087
The stick, that's a cool
experience, though.
782
00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:23,881
Kids love that crap.
783
00:31:23,883 --> 00:31:26,758
Whittling a stick down,
that's a pastime.
784
00:31:26,835 --> 00:31:28,302
I think dads love that crap.
785
00:31:28,378 --> 00:31:30,053
Give me the hot dogs.
Lilah, you want hot dogs?
786
00:31:30,055 --> 00:31:31,430
Yeah.
787
00:31:31,432 --> 00:31:32,705
All right, you're going to--
788
00:31:32,707 --> 00:31:35,100
I also know, in our garage,
I have invested
789
00:31:35,177 --> 00:31:39,354
in two very long
and safe pokers
790
00:31:39,356 --> 00:31:41,481
that you can put
hot dogs on.
791
00:31:41,558 --> 00:31:43,317
But we don't know
where those are.
792
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,485
-I do know where they are.
-Oh.
793
00:31:45,487 --> 00:31:47,362
Whatever you do, you do not
touch this on the...
794
00:31:47,406 --> 00:31:48,697
on the black stuff.
795
00:31:48,699 --> 00:31:49,907
-Don't hit the ash.
-[Zach] The ash.
796
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:51,199
So don't hit the ground.
797
00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:53,994
He's most certainly going
to hit the ash.
798
00:31:54,071 --> 00:31:56,121
[Jackson speaking]
799
00:31:58,083 --> 00:31:59,166
God bless.
800
00:31:59,168 --> 00:32:01,126
Classic.
801
00:32:02,379 --> 00:32:04,212
Let's let the boys do this.
802
00:32:04,214 --> 00:32:06,924
And the girls are going to sit
and watch tonight.
803
00:32:06,926 --> 00:32:08,800
Look it. See, daddy's putting
hot dog on.
804
00:32:08,802 --> 00:32:10,928
[Jackson speaking]
805
00:32:11,004 --> 00:32:12,262
[Zach] I don't know.
806
00:32:12,264 --> 00:32:13,931
[Tori] I love me
a good hot dog.
807
00:32:14,007 --> 00:32:17,309
And, like, over the campfire,
it's just like...
808
00:32:17,386 --> 00:32:18,602
it's the only way to do it.
809
00:32:18,679 --> 00:32:19,937
There's no other way
to do it.
810
00:32:20,013 --> 00:32:21,355
Good thing
we don't have beans.
811
00:32:21,357 --> 00:32:22,481
Lilah's got the toots.
812
00:32:22,557 --> 00:32:23,523
Yeah.
813
00:32:23,525 --> 00:32:26,026
[Tori speaking]
814
00:32:26,028 --> 00:32:27,110
Is this?
815
00:32:27,112 --> 00:32:28,403
That's awesome.
816
00:32:28,447 --> 00:32:29,696
[Tori speaking]
817
00:32:29,698 --> 00:32:32,991
Ooh, you better tell Daddy
thank you.
818
00:32:32,993 --> 00:32:34,660
That looks good.
819
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:38,705
[Michael speaking]
820
00:32:38,707 --> 00:32:40,457
It might be hot, so--
821
00:32:43,837 --> 00:32:45,253
What's wrong with it?
822
00:32:45,255 --> 00:32:47,297
[Michael speaking]
823
00:32:54,014 --> 00:32:56,014
She is me.
824
00:32:56,091 --> 00:32:57,474
She is 1,000 percent me.
825
00:32:57,551 --> 00:32:58,550
Yeah?
826
00:32:58,552 --> 00:33:00,435
Yeah, that would have been
me, 100%.
827
00:33:00,437 --> 00:33:02,354
Got anything on my hand,
I freak out.
828
00:33:02,431 --> 00:33:03,730
Dada!
829
00:33:03,732 --> 00:33:05,691
Can you put it back in?
830
00:33:05,767 --> 00:33:08,110
Lilah's not your roughing i
type of girl.
831
00:33:08,112 --> 00:33:09,945
She gets bothered
by the littlest things.
832
00:33:09,989 --> 00:33:12,406
Smoke, dust, pebble
in her shoe
833
00:33:12,408 --> 00:33:14,533
can throw her off,
her whole mood off.
834
00:33:14,535 --> 00:33:18,203
So I don't think Lilah
is gonna be
your outdoorsy kind of girl.
835
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,040
Jackson,
Mikey and Jess.
836
00:33:22,042 --> 00:33:24,001
And they have a boy,
Michael,
837
00:33:24,003 --> 00:33:25,711
who's your same age
are going to come.
838
00:33:25,713 --> 00:33:27,170
[Tori] Is he four or three?
Do you know?
839
00:33:27,247 --> 00:33:30,132
He's four. Closer to five,
though, than he is.
840
00:33:30,217 --> 00:33:32,634
Jackson, that's your same age
is coming.
841
00:33:32,636 --> 00:33:34,970
-How cool is that?
-[Tori] That'll be fun,
having a friend here.
842
00:33:35,014 --> 00:33:36,888
[Zach] They're going to stay
the whole weekend with us.
843
00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:38,724
We're going to go to the beach
with them.
844
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,517
My friend Mikey and his family
are coming
845
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,561
to visit us from Indiana.
846
00:33:42,637 --> 00:33:44,855
Mikey and me go back
a couple of years.
847
00:33:44,931 --> 00:33:47,315
We've played
on a couple of dwarf
athletic teams together.
848
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,818
And Mikey and Jess
have a son themselves
849
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:51,695
that's around
the same age as Jackson.
850
00:33:51,697 --> 00:33:53,238
-Jackson?
-Yeah.
851
00:33:53,315 --> 00:33:56,867
How did you like playing
soccer at DAAA?
852
00:33:56,869 --> 00:33:58,910
Was it fun with those kids?
853
00:33:58,912 --> 00:34:00,019
Yeah.
854
00:34:00,097 --> 00:34:01,747
Are you gonna be
a soccer player now?
855
00:34:01,749 --> 00:34:04,207
[Jackson speaking]
856
00:34:05,377 --> 00:34:07,085
-Oh, my goodness.
-[Jackson speaking]
857
00:34:07,087 --> 00:34:09,379
You've got a busy life
ahead of you, dude.
858
00:34:09,381 --> 00:34:10,797
Yeah, yeah.
859
00:34:10,874 --> 00:34:13,341
I'm stoked that he appears
to like soccer.
860
00:34:13,343 --> 00:34:15,302
He's still asks, "When do
I go back to soccer?
861
00:34:15,337 --> 00:34:16,494
When do I...
862
00:34:16,496 --> 00:34:19,014
So I think he is
into soccer currently."
863
00:34:19,058 --> 00:34:20,390
Okay, Jackson,
can you do me a favor?
864
00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:21,725
What?
865
00:34:21,727 --> 00:34:23,935
Can you go grab my water cup
on the porch there?
866
00:34:26,356 --> 00:34:28,899
[Tori] Thank you.
867
00:34:28,901 --> 00:34:30,567
I had a lot of fun
with him at LPA.
868
00:34:30,569 --> 00:34:32,444
But it has got me thinking.
869
00:34:32,521 --> 00:34:34,571
I feel like he is getting
close to realizing,
870
00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:35,781
like, he is different.
871
00:34:35,783 --> 00:34:36,740
Yeah.
872
00:34:36,817 --> 00:34:38,408
He wanted to know at LPA.
873
00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:40,994
He was like, "Dad,
why are you playing
with all the kids?"
874
00:34:40,996 --> 00:34:43,080
He sees me as dad
and an adult,
875
00:34:43,156 --> 00:34:44,372
but he's like looking
at me playing
876
00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:45,582
with all the other dwarves.
877
00:34:45,584 --> 00:34:48,043
And then he was paired up
with the futures,
878
00:34:48,045 --> 00:34:50,170
kids his age that are dwarves,
and he's like,
879
00:34:50,247 --> 00:34:51,671
"Why am I playing
with the babies?"
880
00:34:51,748 --> 00:34:53,256
There's a picture
of him looking
881
00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:55,509
at these four other dwarves
his age going like...
882
00:34:57,304 --> 00:34:59,846
Like, "Is this my class?"
883
00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:01,098
You know, like...
884
00:35:01,174 --> 00:35:02,224
I'm not, like, super worried
885
00:35:02,226 --> 00:35:03,825
about it, you know
what I'm saying?
886
00:35:03,827 --> 00:35:06,853
But it's just more of, like,
a curiosity thing, you know?
887
00:35:06,855 --> 00:35:08,146
Do you think about it?
888
00:35:22,454 --> 00:35:24,412
I had a lot of fun
with him at LPA.
889
00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:25,747
[Tori] Yeah.
890
00:35:25,791 --> 00:35:28,250
But it has got me thinking.
891
00:35:28,293 --> 00:35:30,168
I feel like he is getting
close to realizing
892
00:35:30,245 --> 00:35:31,628
like he is different.
893
00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:32,921
-Yeah.
-[Zach] Do you think about it?
894
00:35:32,923 --> 00:35:34,464
Yeah, I do.
895
00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:36,174
[Zach] When it comes
to Jackson being different,
896
00:35:36,209 --> 00:35:38,260
I don't think
he's caught on yet.
897
00:35:38,262 --> 00:35:41,221
We haven't had the talk yet
about how we're different
898
00:35:41,298 --> 00:35:42,881
than everyone else.
899
00:35:42,883 --> 00:35:44,724
He kept saying, like,
"Dad, they all look like you
900
00:35:44,726 --> 00:35:46,351
I think he's gathered it.
901
00:35:46,353 --> 00:35:48,228
I just don't know
if he's gathered it enough
902
00:35:48,305 --> 00:35:50,897
to personify himself as that.
903
00:35:50,974 --> 00:35:52,899
I think he's
I think he's gathered
904
00:35:52,901 --> 00:35:55,110
that, like, these people
are like dad and grandma
905
00:35:55,112 --> 00:35:57,821
and grandpa, but they're not
like me.
906
00:35:57,823 --> 00:35:59,781
With Jay, he hasn't got
there yet.
907
00:35:59,783 --> 00:36:01,658
He hasn't like, "Oh,
we're going to this
908
00:36:01,735 --> 00:36:04,870
because I have achondroplasia
and we're going to, like,
909
00:36:04,872 --> 00:36:06,580
meet other people
with achondroplasia
910
00:36:06,582 --> 00:36:08,957
or types of dwarfism.
911
00:36:08,992 --> 00:36:11,376
I worry about, like,
he's so proud of himself
912
00:36:11,378 --> 00:36:14,004
and so, like, has such
confidence in himself
913
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,464
and sees himself so highly,
914
00:36:16,466 --> 00:36:19,176
I hope that that doesn't break
him down. You know?
915
00:36:19,252 --> 00:36:21,970
I think we have to, like,
continue to foster that
916
00:36:21,972 --> 00:36:23,471
as best we can.
917
00:36:23,473 --> 00:36:24,973
[Zach] I hope
he doesn't lose it.
918
00:36:24,975 --> 00:36:26,975
But it's also super sad
when you do have
919
00:36:26,977 --> 00:36:29,936
such confidence in yourself
and then, like, eventually
920
00:36:30,013 --> 00:36:31,504
it'll catch on to him.
921
00:36:31,581 --> 00:36:34,649
That's like part
of the sad thing
of the transition
922
00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:36,693
of like being a dwarf
and then recognizing,
923
00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:38,987
like, you do have such...
I belong here,
924
00:36:38,989 --> 00:36:40,739
I'm this, I'm that.
925
00:36:40,815 --> 00:36:42,699
And then you slowly
like, "Oh, wow,
926
00:36:42,776 --> 00:36:44,201
I am being left behind."
927
00:36:44,203 --> 00:36:46,703
And you can't catch up.
928
00:36:46,705 --> 00:36:50,457
I went through it
and there's not really
one big moment
929
00:36:50,459 --> 00:36:54,586
I had that I was like,
"Oh, wow. I have dwarfism."
930
00:36:54,588 --> 00:36:58,924
It's like little moments tha
kind of accumulate, you know
931
00:36:58,926 --> 00:37:02,177
racing at school
or playing chase.
932
00:37:02,179 --> 00:37:04,679
I remember having moments
maybe, like, I was frustrated
933
00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:06,514
because all the friends
would run away.
934
00:37:06,516 --> 00:37:08,516
Like, they would run away
from me.
935
00:37:09,853 --> 00:37:11,394
I, like, vaguely
have this memory
936
00:37:11,396 --> 00:37:12,979
of like I was always coming
in the house going,
937
00:37:12,981 --> 00:37:15,482
"Mom, they ran away again,"
you know?
938
00:37:15,484 --> 00:37:16,900
And then my mom
would yell at Jeremy
939
00:37:16,977 --> 00:37:19,110
like, "Don't leave
your brother behind!"
940
00:37:19,112 --> 00:37:21,404
It was so like, demoralizin
because it's such
941
00:37:21,406 --> 00:37:24,491
like a little brother thing,
you know?
942
00:37:24,567 --> 00:37:27,577
I'm not
the little brother, so.
943
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:32,457
That collision of confidenc
and self-worth
944
00:37:32,534 --> 00:37:35,961
and then reality
is what hurts the most.
945
00:37:36,037 --> 00:37:37,236
It's coming for him.
946
00:37:37,238 --> 00:37:39,965
So that's... I...
it's coming from my kids.
947
00:37:41,969 --> 00:37:43,969
You're more worried about it?
948
00:37:43,971 --> 00:37:45,553
Not like worried, but just...
949
00:37:45,555 --> 00:37:47,430
Yeah, like, how are we going
to approach it
950
00:37:47,432 --> 00:37:50,892
and how are we going to,
like, make it positive
951
00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:53,061
and... you know?
952
00:37:54,231 --> 00:37:56,731
Honestly, it's that one
I'm more worried about.
953
00:38:01,989 --> 00:38:03,321
Unbelievable.
954
00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:06,449
Are the girls done?
955
00:38:06,526 --> 00:38:07,742
Can we go?
956
00:38:07,744 --> 00:38:09,202
-I think we're done.
-Are you all done?
957
00:38:09,204 --> 00:38:10,537
Dada.
958
00:38:10,539 --> 00:38:13,623
You're fine. Stop that.
Go, go.
959
00:38:14,876 --> 00:38:17,127
All right.
I think we're going in.
960
00:38:20,132 --> 00:38:22,382
[Zach] She's so excited
to go inside.
961
00:38:22,384 --> 00:38:27,887
[Jackson speaking]
962
00:38:27,889 --> 00:38:29,472
All right. You ready
for your last hot dog?
963
00:38:29,549 --> 00:38:30,473
Yep.
964
00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:32,309
Don't get eaten by a bear.
Okay?
965
00:38:32,311 --> 00:38:34,352
Are you sure you don't want
Josiah to camp out with you?
966
00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:35,562
No. Bye-bye.
967
00:38:35,638 --> 00:38:36,563
Bye-bye.
968
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:39,399
[Jackson speaking]
969
00:38:39,476 --> 00:38:40,817
All right, Jackson,
are you excited?
970
00:38:40,819 --> 00:38:42,569
-Yeah.
-It's been a while.
971
00:38:42,645 --> 00:38:45,405
We'll stay up a little later,
though.
972
00:38:45,407 --> 00:38:47,324
[Jackson speaking]
973
00:38:50,787 --> 00:38:52,412
Just the boys.
974
00:38:52,489 --> 00:38:55,665
Shall we take bath and go
night-night with Josiah?
975
00:39:01,631 --> 00:39:02,714
[Jackson] Hey, Dad.
976
00:39:02,716 --> 00:39:03,798
[Zach] Yeah.
977
00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:06,217
[Jackson speaking]
978
00:39:06,294 --> 00:39:07,260
[Zach] Okay.
979
00:39:07,262 --> 00:39:09,054
Jackson loves camping out.
980
00:39:09,130 --> 00:39:11,806
He loves sleeping in the ten
campfires.
981
00:39:11,808 --> 00:39:14,392
I think he just loves
the one-on-one time too.
982
00:39:14,394 --> 00:39:17,562
All the other kids are in bed,
and it's just him and me,
983
00:39:17,564 --> 00:39:19,314
and he loves all that.
984
00:39:19,316 --> 00:39:21,941
[Jackson] Hey, Dad,
what's your favorite sport?
985
00:39:22,018 --> 00:39:23,943
[Zach speaking]
986
00:39:23,945 --> 00:39:26,237
[Jackson] That's my favorite
sport, too.
987
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,240
-Yeah?
-[Jackson] Remember,
I play soccer?
988
00:39:29,242 --> 00:39:31,493
[Zach speaking]
989
00:39:31,536 --> 00:39:34,162
I love camping out
with my dad.
990
00:39:34,206 --> 00:39:36,998
I love it
when it's just the boys.
991
00:39:37,042 --> 00:39:39,250
Can Lilah come,
though, sometimes?
992
00:39:41,254 --> 00:39:44,631
How about Josiah? Can Josiah
come camp with us sometime?
993
00:39:45,675 --> 00:39:46,925
Not till he's older,
though, right?
994
00:39:46,927 --> 00:39:48,218
Yeah.
995
00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:50,845
-Recording.
-Yeah.
996
00:39:50,847 --> 00:39:53,306
[Zach] Can you get... get
a little bit of fire first.
997
00:39:56,603 --> 00:39:58,103
[Jackson] I'm following you.
998
00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:03,900
[Zach speaking]
999
00:40:03,902 --> 00:40:05,902
I got a lot of good memorie
camping with my family
1000
00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:06,861
growing up.
1001
00:40:06,863 --> 00:40:08,129
Yeah, that's why we...
1002
00:40:08,131 --> 00:40:09,406
you know, we definitely
wanted property
1003
00:40:09,408 --> 00:40:11,366
to be able to do stuff
like that.
1004
00:40:11,368 --> 00:40:12,951
My dad used to do
that with us.
1005
00:40:12,953 --> 00:40:14,994
It used to be
a boys camping trip.
1006
00:40:14,996 --> 00:40:16,638
And we would go either
with our friends
1007
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,208
or my dad's friends,
and then we would be the kid
1008
00:40:20,210 --> 00:40:22,627
That's... that's like my mai
memory of camping.
1009
00:40:22,704 --> 00:40:24,629
[Jackson speaking]
1010
00:40:28,218 --> 00:40:29,759
As time goes on, my dad...
1011
00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:31,636
you know,
we'll see more of my dad.
1012
00:40:31,638 --> 00:40:34,431
Jackson loves outdoors
like grandpa.
1013
00:40:34,507 --> 00:40:36,766
I think Jackson would love
it if he came up
1014
00:40:36,843 --> 00:40:38,059
for a campout or something
like that.
1015
00:40:38,061 --> 00:40:41,563
[Jackson speaking]
1016
00:40:41,565 --> 00:40:43,857
[Zach] Teeny tiny bugs
can get in the tent?
1017
00:40:43,859 --> 00:40:45,090
Yeah.
1018
00:40:45,168 --> 00:40:47,485
I don't think bugs
can get through the mesh.
1019
00:40:47,487 --> 00:40:48,778
I just know he's going
to remember
1020
00:40:48,855 --> 00:40:50,405
these moments and...
1021
00:40:51,992 --> 00:40:54,534
Yeah.
We have fun together.
1022
00:40:54,536 --> 00:40:56,327
Hey, night-night, Jackson.
1023
00:40:56,329 --> 00:40:57,954
Good night.
1024
00:41:00,125 --> 00:41:02,292
[Jackson speaking]
1025
00:41:02,294 --> 00:41:04,878
[Zach] No, ants can't get
that high.
1026
00:41:04,954 --> 00:41:08,006
[Jackson speaking]
1027
00:41:08,008 --> 00:41:10,717
-Night-night.
-Night-night.
1028
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,095
[Jackson speaking]
1029
00:41:16,141 --> 00:41:18,516
Next on Little People,
Big World.
1030
00:41:18,518 --> 00:41:21,811
Well, we kind of need to talk
to them about pumpkin season.
1031
00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:24,189
I got to get my head
around it.
1032
00:41:24,191 --> 00:41:26,983
I haven't quite decided
whether I'll do pumpkin season
1033
00:41:26,985 --> 00:41:28,443
or how involved I'll be.
1034
00:41:28,445 --> 00:41:31,279
What makes pumpkin season
a little more unique
1035
00:41:31,281 --> 00:41:34,824
is when there's some
of the family members
involved.
1036
00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:38,119
Pumpkin season's lost its lure
for me now.
1037
00:41:42,501 --> 00:41:44,334
Mikey and Jess,
1038
00:41:44,336 --> 00:41:46,294
I've known them for years.
1039
00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:47,795
Their son is the same age
as our son.
1040
00:41:47,797 --> 00:41:49,088
He's an LP as well.
1041
00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:51,549
This age is like
the last years our kids
1042
00:41:51,551 --> 00:41:53,510
before they become aware
of who they are.
1043
00:41:53,512 --> 00:41:55,678
They can run down the beach
and not think about
1044
00:41:55,755 --> 00:41:57,430
like, who's looking at me,
who's staring.
1045
00:41:57,432 --> 00:41:59,265
The older they get,
they're going to start
1046
00:41:59,267 --> 00:42:01,351
realizing that the world maybe
looks at them differently
1047
00:42:01,353 --> 00:42:03,228
or that they are different.
1048
00:42:03,304 --> 00:42:05,313
Jackson, I just think
he has a stronger
1049
00:42:05,357 --> 00:42:06,731
confidence in himself.
1050
00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:08,358
I hope he doesn't lose it.
1051
00:42:12,656 --> 00:42:13,780
Well, I'm sorry.
1052
00:42:13,856 --> 00:42:15,323
I know this is hard for you.
1053
00:42:15,325 --> 00:42:18,493
I notified everybody,
all the kids.
1054
00:42:19,871 --> 00:42:22,121
Said they all dropped
everything.
1055
00:42:28,421 --> 00:42:29,587
Now I'm okay.