1 00:00:01,502 --> 00:00:02,710 [narrator] Previously on Little People, Big World. 2 00:00:02,786 --> 00:00:03,877 Brian. 3 00:00:03,879 --> 00:00:05,546 -Good to see you. -You too. 4 00:00:05,622 --> 00:00:07,089 [Matthew] I met Brian from the Little People 5 00:00:07,091 --> 00:00:08,674 of America Conference. 6 00:00:08,676 --> 00:00:10,926 We have these big conferences once a year 7 00:00:10,928 --> 00:00:12,535 all over the United States. 8 00:00:12,537 --> 00:00:14,596 So did you get hit on a lot when you went to the event? 9 00:00:14,673 --> 00:00:16,724 I said yes to him pretty quick. 10 00:00:17,727 --> 00:00:19,893 [Matthew] Amy was new in the national scene. 11 00:00:19,895 --> 00:00:23,063 And I remember saying, "Who's the gal with the hoops," you know? 12 00:00:23,140 --> 00:00:25,941 And kind of it went from there. 13 00:00:25,943 --> 00:00:27,443 Caryn, have you ever gone to one? 14 00:00:27,445 --> 00:00:28,527 No. 15 00:00:28,604 --> 00:00:29,844 Oh, so-- 16 00:00:29,922 --> 00:00:30,988 I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to it. 17 00:00:31,032 --> 00:00:32,740 Finally, I'm getting to go along. 18 00:00:32,775 --> 00:00:36,452 And Zach and Tori and the kids are also going 19 00:00:36,454 --> 00:00:38,078 I don't know how long it's been since I've seen 20 00:00:38,155 --> 00:00:39,521 Jackson and Lilah. 21 00:00:39,598 --> 00:00:41,957 And I haven't gotten to see Josiah yet. 22 00:00:41,959 --> 00:00:46,295 This rift with us is heartbreaking, really. 23 00:00:46,297 --> 00:00:47,379 Goal to goal. Goal to goal. 24 00:00:47,381 --> 00:00:49,131 Go, shoot it. Shoot it. 25 00:00:49,208 --> 00:00:51,675 We're getting ready for the LPA convention. 26 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:53,302 I think grandpa is gonna be at your soccer. 27 00:00:53,304 --> 00:00:54,678 [Jackson speaking] 28 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,971 When we see my dad and Caryn, 29 00:00:56,048 --> 00:00:58,348 it's just... it's not... it's whatever. 30 00:00:58,392 --> 00:01:00,434 We'll be focused on other things. 31 00:01:00,511 --> 00:01:02,519 Caryn tells other people that she's waiting 32 00:01:02,521 --> 00:01:04,137 for our olive branch. 33 00:01:04,139 --> 00:01:07,733 And that olive branch, the dove took it to another island. 34 00:01:07,735 --> 00:01:09,318 I don't know. 35 00:01:25,544 --> 00:01:27,252 Who's going to get there first? 36 00:01:28,172 --> 00:01:30,005 I think Mom's going to get there first. 37 00:01:33,511 --> 00:01:35,260 Am I going to beat you? 38 00:01:35,262 --> 00:01:37,262 [Jackson speaking] 39 00:01:38,933 --> 00:01:40,432 Do you want me to push you? 40 00:01:42,186 --> 00:01:43,977 I'm going to beat you. I'm almost there. 41 00:01:43,979 --> 00:01:46,563 We're back from our vacation in Spokane 42 00:01:46,607 --> 00:01:47,689 at the LPA convention. 43 00:01:47,691 --> 00:01:49,066 Go, Jackson, go. 44 00:01:49,068 --> 00:01:51,652 LPA is Little People of America. 45 00:01:51,654 --> 00:01:53,946 They host an annual conventi every year 46 00:01:53,948 --> 00:01:55,522 around the United States. 47 00:01:55,524 --> 00:01:58,659 And then DAAA, which is Dwarf Athletic Associatio 48 00:01:58,735 --> 00:02:02,496 of America, they host the dwarf games in connection 49 00:02:02,573 --> 00:02:03,956 with LPA's convention. 50 00:02:03,958 --> 00:02:04,832 [woman] Come on, Jackson. 51 00:02:04,908 --> 00:02:06,032 Go, go! 52 00:02:06,034 --> 00:02:08,377 I work with the DAAA board a lot. 53 00:02:08,379 --> 00:02:10,087 It was a fun time. It was great. 54 00:02:10,131 --> 00:02:11,880 Jackson played some soccer for the first time. 55 00:02:11,882 --> 00:02:13,423 Killed it. 56 00:02:15,678 --> 00:02:18,220 Seeing Jackson hang out with fellow LPs 57 00:02:18,222 --> 00:02:19,263 was a lot of fun. 58 00:02:19,298 --> 00:02:21,056 [Chris speaking] 59 00:02:21,133 --> 00:02:22,182 Jackson's been to other conferences, 60 00:02:22,184 --> 00:02:23,550 but he was super young. 61 00:02:23,552 --> 00:02:25,477 This is the first one that he, like, participated in. 62 00:02:25,554 --> 00:02:27,053 All right, Jackson, go. 63 00:02:27,130 --> 00:02:28,772 I think it was a little overwhelming, but I think 64 00:02:28,774 --> 00:02:31,108 he had a lot of fun. 65 00:02:31,110 --> 00:02:32,442 Jackson's so confident. 66 00:02:32,444 --> 00:02:34,194 He's a really confident kid 67 00:02:34,196 --> 00:02:36,155 And he enjoyed the experience. 68 00:02:36,231 --> 00:02:37,447 You got to get down there. 69 00:02:37,491 --> 00:02:39,408 So when he kicks it, he's going to kick 70 00:02:39,484 --> 00:02:41,234 it to one of you guys. 71 00:02:41,236 --> 00:02:45,414 My mom was one of the foundi members and athletes of DAAA 72 00:02:45,416 --> 00:02:47,916 So it is kind of a generational thing. 73 00:02:47,918 --> 00:02:51,461 She was part of that first group. 74 00:02:51,505 --> 00:02:54,381 And then and then me, I came in and then now 75 00:02:54,458 --> 00:02:56,216 Jackson's participating. 76 00:02:56,218 --> 00:02:57,593 Here you go. 77 00:02:57,595 --> 00:02:58,902 Kick it hard. 78 00:02:58,904 --> 00:03:00,387 [woman] There you go. He's picking it up. 79 00:03:00,389 --> 00:03:02,598 You know, Chris saw LPA for the first time. 80 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,183 I was wondering if they'd all be looking 81 00:03:04,185 --> 00:03:05,893 at me like, "Amy, what did you do? 82 00:03:05,895 --> 00:03:07,311 What did you do?" 83 00:03:07,313 --> 00:03:08,854 No, instead, they're looking at you like, 84 00:03:08,856 --> 00:03:09,855 "What a lucky girl." 85 00:03:09,932 --> 00:03:11,181 Yeah. 86 00:03:11,192 --> 00:03:13,567 It was great reconnecting with some people. 87 00:03:13,569 --> 00:03:15,027 Last time I saw them, we were all kids. 88 00:03:15,029 --> 00:03:16,653 And now we're all dads. 89 00:03:16,655 --> 00:03:19,156 It can be an intimidating thing to walk into it. 90 00:03:19,158 --> 00:03:20,949 It's just overwhelming. 91 00:03:20,951 --> 00:03:24,786 I think I was intimidated 'cause I took the, like, 92 00:03:24,821 --> 00:03:27,206 number one Bachelor of LPA. 93 00:03:27,208 --> 00:03:29,082 No, I don't know if there's jealousy. 94 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:30,733 [Tori] There was. 95 00:03:30,735 --> 00:03:34,755 We won't name names, but there were a couple ladies. 96 00:03:34,757 --> 00:03:37,591 Zach was like a wanted dude. 97 00:03:37,593 --> 00:03:40,010 Like, he's a good-looking dude. 98 00:03:40,012 --> 00:03:41,178 I don't blame anyone. 99 00:03:41,180 --> 00:03:42,721 Are you guys ready? 100 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:45,432 [Zach] Chris is very good in social settings, 101 00:03:45,434 --> 00:03:47,476 so I'm sure he found his... 102 00:03:47,478 --> 00:03:51,897 his niche and was able to survive. 103 00:03:51,899 --> 00:03:55,400 Hey, Jackson. Can I give you some good luck? 104 00:03:55,402 --> 00:03:57,236 -[Caryn] Fist bump? -Give me a five. 105 00:03:57,238 --> 00:03:59,404 Fist bump. Fist bump would be better. 106 00:04:01,784 --> 00:04:03,533 [woman] Can I have one, too? 107 00:04:03,577 --> 00:04:07,287 I saw my dad and Caryn at Jackson's soccer DAAA. 108 00:04:07,289 --> 00:04:08,997 Caryn got to meet Josiah. 109 00:04:08,999 --> 00:04:11,208 It was good that she was able to see 110 00:04:11,210 --> 00:04:12,376 him and finally meet him. 111 00:04:12,419 --> 00:04:14,253 Jackson, go. 112 00:04:14,329 --> 00:04:18,340 It was a fun, like, first DAAA experience for our family. 113 00:04:20,552 --> 00:04:22,261 This is a good spot. 114 00:04:22,263 --> 00:04:24,513 Nice and shady. 115 00:04:24,589 --> 00:04:26,848 We're happy to be home in Battle Ground. 116 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:28,517 And we still have so much of the summer to enjoy. 117 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:30,686 Summer's just getting going. 118 00:04:30,688 --> 00:04:33,313 Guys, you can ride your scooter right here if you want. 119 00:04:37,278 --> 00:04:38,527 Do you want a snack? 120 00:04:38,529 --> 00:04:39,486 Huh? 121 00:04:39,488 --> 00:04:41,280 Lilah, do you need to go potty? 122 00:04:41,356 --> 00:04:43,323 Do you need to go potty? 123 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,075 Don't go pee-pee in your pants. 124 00:04:45,119 --> 00:04:46,326 Okay? 125 00:04:46,328 --> 00:04:47,953 We're starting to potty trai 126 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:49,705 She's a little more interest in potty training 127 00:04:49,707 --> 00:04:51,415 than Jackson ever was. 128 00:04:51,417 --> 00:04:53,750 You know, she has stuff going on with her ears, 129 00:04:53,794 --> 00:04:56,253 and so our pediatrician gave her... 130 00:04:56,255 --> 00:04:59,298 it's not a hearing test, but it's like a pressure test 131 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:01,842 that they... they send something to the eardrum 132 00:05:01,844 --> 00:05:03,218 and it's supposed to kick something back. 133 00:05:03,220 --> 00:05:05,053 It's like supposed to emit something. 134 00:05:05,055 --> 00:05:07,597 And hers has flatlined, which is like not good. 135 00:05:07,599 --> 00:05:11,268 That usually means that there's water behind her eardrums. 136 00:05:11,303 --> 00:05:13,937 And so we're gonna go see an ear, nose, throat doctor 137 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:17,107 like to see if it's affecting her hearing and delaying 138 00:05:17,109 --> 00:05:20,068 her speech or what's going on. 139 00:05:20,145 --> 00:05:21,111 [indistinct] 140 00:05:21,113 --> 00:05:22,946 Isn't he so cute? 141 00:05:24,283 --> 00:05:27,159 Babe, we gave birth to the same child twice, though. 142 00:05:27,235 --> 00:05:28,643 Jackson and Josiah. 143 00:05:28,645 --> 00:05:31,038 -Yeah, they're twins. -Yeah, they look identical. 144 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,956 He's a little bit smaller, I would say, than Jackson. 145 00:05:32,958 --> 00:05:35,876 Like Jackson was just like he was like a chunk. 146 00:05:35,878 --> 00:05:36,984 Like a rumble. 147 00:05:36,986 --> 00:05:41,548 But they look very similar, I think. 148 00:05:41,625 --> 00:05:43,759 their temperament is definitely similar. 149 00:05:43,761 --> 00:05:46,011 Like, Josiah's definitely starting to get a little bi 150 00:05:46,088 --> 00:05:48,597 more of like an attitude then, like, Jackson. 151 00:05:48,599 --> 00:05:50,182 Like, Jackson was just chill. 152 00:05:50,258 --> 00:05:51,516 Jackson was solid. 153 00:05:51,593 --> 00:05:52,601 He was so chill. 154 00:05:52,603 --> 00:05:55,103 All right, so camp out next week. 155 00:05:55,105 --> 00:05:57,064 How are you gonna get that tent back up? 156 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:00,025 [Jackson speaking] 157 00:06:00,027 --> 00:06:01,777 -[Zach] Yeah. -With a little help of him? 158 00:06:01,779 --> 00:06:04,529 -Yeah, Jackson's gonna help me. -Yeah. I love it. 159 00:06:04,531 --> 00:06:05,530 It's going to take all... 160 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:06,956 it's gonna be an all-day thing. 161 00:06:06,958 --> 00:06:09,409 Jackson and I are gonna do a campout on the property. 162 00:06:09,411 --> 00:06:12,704 When we were dating, we had a campfire at the farm 163 00:06:12,706 --> 00:06:14,664 every single night. 164 00:06:14,666 --> 00:06:17,125 -Like, no joke, no exaggeration. -Yeah, every weekend. 165 00:06:17,127 --> 00:06:18,877 Now we have our own spot. 166 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:21,797 We have a brand-new spot for our own little campfire. 167 00:06:21,873 --> 00:06:24,383 It's just, like, glorious. 168 00:06:24,459 --> 00:06:27,052 Jackson. What do you want to eat at the campfire? 169 00:06:27,054 --> 00:06:28,720 [Jackson speaking] 170 00:06:30,349 --> 00:06:32,432 You could cook some hot dogs. 171 00:06:32,434 --> 00:06:34,518 -Yeah, we can do hot dogs. -Yeah, we can do hot dogs. 172 00:06:34,561 --> 00:06:36,269 And brown beans, Dad's favorite. 173 00:06:36,271 --> 00:06:38,397 -Daddy can do the brown beans. -My favorite. 174 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:40,023 I would eat the whole can. 175 00:06:40,025 --> 00:06:42,526 [Jackson speaking] 176 00:06:44,154 --> 00:06:45,487 [Zach] I'll be in charge of the dinner 177 00:06:45,522 --> 00:06:47,130 and we'll cook over the fire 178 00:06:47,132 --> 00:06:49,199 And keep it simple. Just a little hot dog action 179 00:06:49,243 --> 00:06:50,617 Just loves a good bean. 180 00:06:50,619 --> 00:06:52,494 I love me some fat brown beans. 181 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:55,747 [Zach speaking] 182 00:06:58,001 --> 00:06:59,793 [Jackson speaking] 183 00:07:02,214 --> 00:07:03,422 [Lilah sobbing] 184 00:07:03,424 --> 00:07:05,006 Her life. Her life, man. 185 00:07:05,008 --> 00:07:07,801 It's so rough. 186 00:07:07,803 --> 00:07:10,053 Lilah has never been camping so she doesn't have any feelings. 187 00:07:10,055 --> 00:07:12,264 I will not be taking Lilah camping, I'm sorry. 188 00:07:12,266 --> 00:07:14,182 I will take her to the princess castles 189 00:07:14,259 --> 00:07:15,851 of all princess castles. 190 00:07:15,853 --> 00:07:17,519 I will not be taking her camping. 191 00:07:17,596 --> 00:07:19,354 She won't be camping in the backyard either. 192 00:07:19,356 --> 00:07:20,272 She's gonna be a handful. 193 00:07:20,348 --> 00:07:21,857 She already is a handful. 194 00:07:21,933 --> 00:07:24,067 We'll not be waking up at 11:00 for her crying 195 00:07:24,069 --> 00:07:25,426 and saying, "Mumma, Mumma, Mumma." 196 00:07:25,504 --> 00:07:28,572 I can't really picture her camping at the moment. 197 00:07:28,574 --> 00:07:30,740 Do I get to sleep out there with you? 198 00:07:30,742 --> 00:07:32,951 It's only two cots out there. 199 00:07:33,028 --> 00:07:34,744 Darn. 200 00:07:34,746 --> 00:07:36,955 Well, maybe one day, Mom has her... 201 00:07:36,957 --> 00:07:39,249 I have a big air mattress that we can put out there. 202 00:07:39,293 --> 00:07:40,792 [Jackson speaking] 203 00:07:40,869 --> 00:07:42,836 [Tori speaking] 204 00:07:42,838 --> 00:07:45,380 The new tent's just for Zach and Jackson. 205 00:07:45,457 --> 00:07:46,923 It's gonna be sweaty and it's gonna be... 206 00:07:46,958 --> 00:07:47,966 Dusty and... 207 00:07:47,968 --> 00:07:49,050 Dusty and dirty and-- 208 00:07:49,052 --> 00:07:49,968 Sappy. 209 00:07:49,970 --> 00:07:51,219 Yeah. 210 00:07:51,221 --> 00:07:54,014 My ideal camping situation is like an RV 211 00:07:54,090 --> 00:07:56,641 or a hotel cabin. 212 00:07:58,103 --> 00:07:59,311 Yeah. 213 00:07:59,387 --> 00:08:00,979 Come here. You come here. 214 00:08:00,981 --> 00:08:02,731 You come hang out with Mom. 215 00:08:06,069 --> 00:08:07,402 [Zach] Unbelievable. 216 00:08:07,404 --> 00:08:08,904 [cooing] 217 00:08:08,980 --> 00:08:10,489 [Tori] Can you go get the burp cloth, please? 218 00:08:10,491 --> 00:08:11,948 [cooing] 219 00:08:11,950 --> 00:08:13,492 That was disgusting. 220 00:08:31,970 --> 00:08:34,471 Oh, it's so pretty. 221 00:08:34,473 --> 00:08:36,097 Summer. 222 00:08:36,132 --> 00:08:38,058 There's like greens and flowers and sunshine. 223 00:08:38,134 --> 00:08:40,185 [Matthew speaking] 224 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:43,021 Mint. I got a lot of mint at my house. 225 00:08:43,098 --> 00:08:45,774 So we just got back from the LPA conference. 226 00:08:45,776 --> 00:08:49,319 And it was the 65th year of the organization 227 00:08:49,321 --> 00:08:54,324 I've been a member, you know since I was young. 228 00:08:54,326 --> 00:08:55,450 Hot coffee. 229 00:08:55,452 --> 00:08:56,576 Thank you. 230 00:08:56,578 --> 00:08:57,661 Croissant. 231 00:08:57,663 --> 00:08:58,828 Oh, they did have that. 232 00:08:58,830 --> 00:09:00,455 -They did. -Excellent. 233 00:09:00,457 --> 00:09:04,000 It's very much like going to a big-time class reunion 234 00:09:04,044 --> 00:09:04,934 or something. 235 00:09:04,936 --> 00:09:06,211 It's a lot of old friends. 236 00:09:06,288 --> 00:09:08,421 People that you've known your entire life 237 00:09:08,423 --> 00:09:11,550 that you only get to see, you know, every year or every couple of years. 238 00:09:11,552 --> 00:09:13,677 And I enjoy it immensely. 239 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,513 It's great to connect with people, meet new people. 240 00:09:16,515 --> 00:09:18,431 Brought Caryn this year. 241 00:09:18,433 --> 00:09:21,351 I guess I didn't realize going through that pamphlet 242 00:09:21,353 --> 00:09:23,228 and going to some of those seminars 243 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:26,940 and having all of those renowned doctors there. 244 00:09:26,942 --> 00:09:29,859 And it was very well organized. 245 00:09:29,861 --> 00:09:31,528 It was... it was a good time. 246 00:09:31,530 --> 00:09:33,822 Going to the LPA conference was actually an honor. 247 00:09:33,824 --> 00:09:36,032 I was very excited to be included 248 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:39,995 because it's coveted to people that are in that community. 249 00:09:39,997 --> 00:09:43,665 They are looking for connection and resources. 250 00:09:43,667 --> 00:09:46,876 Yeah, it was great to watch you catch up with all your old 251 00:09:46,878 --> 00:09:49,796 buddies and hear the stories. 252 00:09:49,798 --> 00:09:51,314 It was fun. 253 00:09:51,316 --> 00:09:53,174 [Caryn] This was my very fir LPA conference. 254 00:09:53,176 --> 00:09:54,092 I've heard about them for years 255 00:09:54,094 --> 00:09:55,335 and years and years. 256 00:09:55,337 --> 00:09:58,763 And I had a little teeny bit of trepidation 257 00:09:58,765 --> 00:10:00,265 just 'cause I didn't know what to expect. 258 00:10:00,267 --> 00:10:01,975 But honestly, walked in the door. 259 00:10:01,977 --> 00:10:03,326 Everybody was welcoming. 260 00:10:03,328 --> 00:10:05,061 And being the average sized person, 261 00:10:05,063 --> 00:10:07,088 I wasn't really the odd man out. 262 00:10:07,090 --> 00:10:09,524 There was plenty of other little people an average siz there. 263 00:10:11,278 --> 00:10:13,445 It was astounding. I had a really, really good time. 264 00:10:13,447 --> 00:10:16,072 Of course, I was there with my handsome boyfriend. 265 00:10:16,074 --> 00:10:19,284 But I enjoyed it on many levels. 266 00:10:19,286 --> 00:10:22,245 And I met a ton of Matt's old girlfriends. 267 00:10:22,247 --> 00:10:24,331 They're all very cute and sassy, of course. 268 00:10:27,169 --> 00:10:29,252 Giving me the once over. 269 00:10:29,296 --> 00:10:31,004 They gave you the once over. 270 00:10:32,799 --> 00:10:36,384 I'm sure people were curious about how... 271 00:10:36,386 --> 00:10:37,594 about meeting you. 272 00:10:37,638 --> 00:10:38,970 I'm sure they were. 273 00:10:39,005 --> 00:10:41,056 And I'm sure they were curious about, you know, 274 00:10:41,132 --> 00:10:46,561 Amy and I interacted and Chris, Amy, me, you all interacted. 275 00:10:46,563 --> 00:10:48,813 But, you know, we hung out with them a lot. 276 00:10:48,815 --> 00:10:51,274 [Chris] And how was your night last night? 277 00:10:51,276 --> 00:10:52,901 Partied into the wee hours? 278 00:10:52,903 --> 00:10:53,943 Amy. 279 00:10:53,945 --> 00:10:55,362 These little people party. 280 00:10:55,364 --> 00:10:56,880 Any... Amy out-partied us. 281 00:10:56,882 --> 00:10:59,449 At one point, Amy came up to me and whispered in my ear. 282 00:10:59,451 --> 00:11:02,577 She said, "Do you think people are going to take sides with us?" 283 00:11:02,654 --> 00:11:07,207 Like, "Well, if they are, I don't feel it yet. 284 00:11:07,209 --> 00:11:08,375 Do you feel it?" 285 00:11:08,377 --> 00:11:09,542 She goes, "No, I don't," you know? 286 00:11:09,544 --> 00:11:11,002 Well, how could they? 287 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:12,879 'Cause we were together, so they couldn't pick a side. 288 00:11:12,881 --> 00:11:13,755 Right. 289 00:11:13,757 --> 00:11:16,341 There was no sides to pick. 290 00:11:16,343 --> 00:11:20,303 And I joked... I joked to Amy, we should have had T-shirts made. 291 00:11:20,305 --> 00:11:23,431 Mine, says "Team Amy" and her says "Team Matt." 292 00:11:23,433 --> 00:11:24,557 I'll buy them. 293 00:11:24,634 --> 00:11:25,475 You'll buy them. 294 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:27,060 That'll be awesome. 295 00:11:28,355 --> 00:11:30,397 I think all the other little people that we've known 296 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:33,108 our whole lives that know that we've got divorced, 297 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:36,319 I think they were all, you know, realizing, 298 00:11:36,321 --> 00:11:37,195 "Hey, you don't have to take sides. 299 00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:38,846 It's not Amy against Matt." 300 00:11:38,848 --> 00:11:42,742 You know, we weren't wrestling common friends for each other, 301 00:11:42,744 --> 00:11:46,579 and we were just Amy and Matt doing our thing. 302 00:11:46,581 --> 00:11:49,833 I was very impressed by Jackson's little soccer ability. 303 00:11:49,876 --> 00:11:52,752 He definitely knew which way the goal was. 304 00:11:52,829 --> 00:11:55,213 Having a soccer dad coach is probably helpful. 305 00:11:55,215 --> 00:11:56,840 [Matthew] Uh-huh. 306 00:11:56,842 --> 00:11:59,259 We went and saw Jackson play soccer, obviously, 307 00:11:59,335 --> 00:12:03,179 because that was one of the main reasons that we went. 308 00:12:03,181 --> 00:12:06,975 I think he just melded righ into the whole concept. 309 00:12:07,051 --> 00:12:10,520 It was really, really outstanding, 310 00:12:10,522 --> 00:12:14,274 fun to watch him interact with other LPs of his size. 311 00:12:14,350 --> 00:12:18,194 Getting to watch Jackson, you know, in his little soccer tournament with 312 00:12:18,196 --> 00:12:20,655 not only his peers in his age group, 313 00:12:20,657 --> 00:12:22,532 but they're all little like him. 314 00:12:22,534 --> 00:12:25,368 And I don't know that he's ever experienced that. 315 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:27,620 So what a neat connection to make at a young age. 316 00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:28,738 Yeah. 317 00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:30,707 And I got to meet Josiah. He's cute. 318 00:12:30,709 --> 00:12:33,668 And when I went up and said hi to Lilah. 319 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:36,171 And I hadn't seen her in a long time, you know, 320 00:12:36,173 --> 00:12:39,549 she's looking at me and I said, "Can I sit down?" 321 00:12:39,551 --> 00:12:40,925 And I won her over with that. 322 00:12:40,927 --> 00:12:43,052 Next thing you know, we're over playing rocks. 323 00:12:43,054 --> 00:12:44,846 Yeah, she liked that, throwing rock with you. 324 00:12:44,923 --> 00:12:46,264 Yeah. 325 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:48,475 It was so fun to get to see Zach and Tori's kids. 326 00:12:48,477 --> 00:12:50,059 I mean, I hadn't seen him in a while. 327 00:12:50,061 --> 00:12:51,770 And so it was just... that was delightful. 328 00:12:51,846 --> 00:12:52,812 And I got to meet Josiah. 329 00:12:52,889 --> 00:12:54,588 He's a little... little button. 330 00:12:54,666 --> 00:12:58,777 The National LPA Conference was in Spokane, Washington, 331 00:12:58,779 --> 00:13:01,029 and that happens to be where my daughter Moll 332 00:13:01,031 --> 00:13:02,447 and her husband Joel live. 333 00:13:02,524 --> 00:13:03,615 He's all fired up. 334 00:13:03,617 --> 00:13:04,616 It's all that matters. 335 00:13:04,692 --> 00:13:06,159 You got it, sis? 336 00:13:06,161 --> 00:13:08,703 Zach and Tori stayed with Molly and Joel, 337 00:13:08,780 --> 00:13:10,580 but they were more focused on the sport, 338 00:13:10,582 --> 00:13:12,582 which was at a local college 339 00:13:12,584 --> 00:13:14,334 so we didn't see a lot of them. 340 00:13:14,410 --> 00:13:15,960 We saw them a couple of times real briefly, 341 00:13:15,962 --> 00:13:17,520 you know, coming and going. 342 00:13:17,522 --> 00:13:20,715 But they were busy, you know, taking care of the kids. 343 00:13:21,551 --> 00:13:23,676 I felt worn out after the first couple days. 344 00:13:23,678 --> 00:13:28,848 I was... I was absolutely exhausted after two days. 345 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:30,558 Well, Arizona was nice. 346 00:13:30,635 --> 00:13:32,435 -Yeah. -That was... that was fun. 347 00:13:32,437 --> 00:13:35,313 I think it's fantastic that now when we go... 348 00:13:35,390 --> 00:13:37,357 it's not just my parents, now it's your parents, too. 349 00:13:37,433 --> 00:13:39,609 -Yeah. -And the fact that they hang out. 350 00:13:39,611 --> 00:13:40,777 That's so funny. 351 00:13:40,779 --> 00:13:42,320 Very funny. 352 00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:46,366 After a couple of days at the LPA, Caryn and I flew 353 00:13:46,442 --> 00:13:49,994 directly from Spokane down to Phoenix. 354 00:13:49,996 --> 00:13:53,039 My folks relocated from Central California 355 00:13:53,116 --> 00:13:56,960 down to Arizona, and they love it. 356 00:13:56,962 --> 00:13:59,754 Both our parents, without planning it for years and years, 357 00:13:59,831 --> 00:14:01,214 ended up in the same zip code. 358 00:14:01,216 --> 00:14:02,549 And I'm sitting there with my dad 359 00:14:02,551 --> 00:14:04,926 and he's like, "Oh, Ron's calling." 360 00:14:06,096 --> 00:14:08,513 In the short time that Matt's parents 361 00:14:08,515 --> 00:14:12,517 have been so close, they've gotten close to my parents. 362 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:15,436 So looking forward to spending a lot of time with them. 363 00:14:16,898 --> 00:14:18,431 Coming up. 364 00:14:18,433 --> 00:14:21,693 Have you ever talked to Matt about this whole farm deal? 365 00:14:21,695 --> 00:14:24,362 We got into a little tiff and he thinks he's owned 366 00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:25,655 up to all his mistakes. 367 00:14:25,657 --> 00:14:26,865 I'm like-- 368 00:14:26,941 --> 00:14:29,951 I've noticed a change with Amy speaking up. 369 00:14:30,028 --> 00:14:32,662 Now with the farm sale, I think she's just 370 00:14:32,706 --> 00:14:33,997 finally said enough. 371 00:14:33,999 --> 00:14:35,665 And again, with Matt, you need to own 372 00:14:35,709 --> 00:14:37,417 up to what you've done. 373 00:14:40,088 --> 00:14:41,287 [man] And later. 374 00:14:41,289 --> 00:14:43,089 I had a lot of fun with him at LPA. 375 00:14:43,091 --> 00:14:44,799 But it has got me thinking. 376 00:14:44,801 --> 00:14:46,718 I feel like he is getting close to realizing 377 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,927 like he is different. 378 00:14:47,929 --> 00:14:50,037 [Tori] Yeah. 379 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:52,140 He was paired up with kids his age that are dwarfs and he was like, 380 00:14:52,216 --> 00:14:53,540 "Why am I playing with the babies?" 381 00:14:53,542 --> 00:14:57,437 Eventually it'll catch on to him, that collision 382 00:14:57,513 --> 00:15:01,441 of confidence and self-worth and then reality 383 00:15:01,517 --> 00:15:03,860 is what hurts the most. 384 00:15:12,537 --> 00:15:14,120 -I've never been here. -I haven't either. 385 00:15:14,197 --> 00:15:15,663 -Thank you. -Looks interesting. 386 00:15:20,462 --> 00:15:21,920 Look at the menu here first. 387 00:15:21,996 --> 00:15:24,130 Something is coming towards us. 388 00:15:27,469 --> 00:15:28,468 Oh, dear. 389 00:15:28,470 --> 00:15:29,928 What? 390 00:15:29,930 --> 00:15:31,679 Okay. They talk about this. 391 00:15:31,756 --> 00:15:32,931 I have never seen this. 392 00:15:33,007 --> 00:15:34,515 I have not either. 393 00:15:34,592 --> 00:15:35,850 Is that, like, even for us? 394 00:15:35,927 --> 00:15:37,435 Maybe not. 395 00:15:37,512 --> 00:15:38,728 Oh, I guess it is. 396 00:15:38,772 --> 00:15:40,563 We are table four, I think. 397 00:15:40,565 --> 00:15:41,940 You want to grab it for both? 398 00:15:42,016 --> 00:15:43,191 Okay. 399 00:15:43,267 --> 00:15:44,734 Especially after COVID, 400 00:15:44,778 --> 00:15:47,028 some restaurants are trying out 401 00:15:48,490 --> 00:15:51,741 these robot type things. 402 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:54,118 Okay, I think we have to push done. 403 00:15:54,195 --> 00:15:56,120 -Oh, yeah. -Oh. 404 00:15:57,290 --> 00:15:58,581 -Okay. -Wow. That's... 405 00:15:58,583 --> 00:15:59,865 Wow. 406 00:15:59,867 --> 00:16:01,793 [Amy] See you later, you scooter thing, you. 407 00:16:03,630 --> 00:16:05,838 [Lisa] Okay, we have to catch up. 408 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,382 We haven't... You've been gone. 409 00:16:07,384 --> 00:16:08,466 I've been gone. 410 00:16:08,468 --> 00:16:09,592 No, really. Seriously. 411 00:16:09,594 --> 00:16:11,594 We've lost two months. 412 00:16:11,596 --> 00:16:12,887 We're getting old. 413 00:16:12,964 --> 00:16:14,097 -[Lisa] I know. -We're getting old. 414 00:16:14,099 --> 00:16:15,139 Time is flying. 415 00:16:15,141 --> 00:16:16,391 [Lisa] Well, that is true. 416 00:16:16,393 --> 00:16:18,726 -And... oh, my goodness. -Wow. 417 00:16:18,728 --> 00:16:20,687 Look at this wow. 418 00:16:20,689 --> 00:16:21,771 [woman speaking] 419 00:16:21,773 --> 00:16:22,981 -Okay. -Oh, okay. 420 00:16:23,057 --> 00:16:24,857 -[woman speaking] -So does he have a name? 421 00:16:24,859 --> 00:16:26,401 Oh, this is the fondue right here? 422 00:16:26,403 --> 00:16:27,652 [woman speaking] 423 00:16:27,654 --> 00:16:29,445 Oh. Shoshanna. 424 00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:30,530 -All right. -Thank you. 425 00:16:30,532 --> 00:16:32,407 Thanks, Shoshanna. Is that her name? 426 00:16:32,409 --> 00:16:34,951 Yeah, Shoshanna. See you later. 427 00:16:34,953 --> 00:16:36,953 -Oh, my goodness. -Where do we start? 428 00:16:38,123 --> 00:16:40,790 How was the LPA conference? 429 00:16:40,792 --> 00:16:42,834 It was very interesting with Chris 430 00:16:42,836 --> 00:16:44,318 going to the conference. 431 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,423 I said, "Babe, you're going to be the sequoia amongst 432 00:16:48,425 --> 00:16:53,177 all these little bushes, you know, or something." 433 00:16:53,179 --> 00:16:57,181 And I said, "I can't tell you whether to kneel down 434 00:16:57,183 --> 00:17:00,018 or take a knee, kneel down, just be eye to eye, 435 00:17:00,020 --> 00:17:01,519 'cause some little people, 436 00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:02,812 if you do do that, then they're like, 437 00:17:02,856 --> 00:17:03,913 Hey, you don't have to do that." 438 00:17:03,915 --> 00:17:06,566 -Yeah. -But no, Chris loved it. 439 00:17:06,568 --> 00:17:09,694 This was Chris's first time going to a national conference. 440 00:17:09,771 --> 00:17:12,947 I tried to prep Chris, but not too much. 441 00:17:13,024 --> 00:17:15,116 But from what he told me, I mean, 442 00:17:15,118 --> 00:17:16,868 he had a great time. 443 00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:20,079 He met some great people, people I've known for a long, long time. 444 00:17:20,081 --> 00:17:22,915 They were very welcoming, very accepting of him. 445 00:17:22,917 --> 00:17:25,209 I was very appreciative. 446 00:17:25,286 --> 00:17:29,505 So have you ever talked to Matt about how you felt 447 00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:31,507 about this whole farm deal? 448 00:17:31,509 --> 00:17:33,551 Well, towards the end, you know, when he was thinking 449 00:17:33,628 --> 00:17:36,262 about putting the place up for sale. 450 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:38,097 We got in a little tiff. 451 00:17:38,099 --> 00:17:40,308 You don't admit to anything. 452 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:42,602 Well, I'm taking responsibility, so. 453 00:17:42,678 --> 00:17:46,147 [Amy speaking] 454 00:17:46,149 --> 00:17:47,982 There's a lot going on... 455 00:17:47,984 --> 00:17:50,359 There's a lot going on that you don't know about. 456 00:17:51,654 --> 00:17:54,072 He thinks he's owned up to all his mistakes. 457 00:17:54,148 --> 00:17:57,909 I'm like, "Well, I think you better ask all four of us. 458 00:17:57,985 --> 00:17:59,368 I don't know." 459 00:17:59,412 --> 00:18:01,153 Wow. 460 00:18:01,155 --> 00:18:04,332 It can't just be, "They did this and it couldn't be worked out. 461 00:18:04,408 --> 00:18:06,667 I tried to do this, but they just, you know, 462 00:18:06,669 --> 00:18:08,068 wouldn't hear of it." 463 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:10,213 I think in order for things to rectify, 464 00:18:10,215 --> 00:18:12,090 you've got to let the kids know, 465 00:18:12,092 --> 00:18:13,633 "Hey, I had a part in this, too. 466 00:18:13,635 --> 00:18:16,427 I probably could have done something different to see 467 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:18,221 if this would have worked out." 468 00:18:18,223 --> 00:18:20,264 Well, I'm glad you had your voice, 469 00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:24,393 if that's what came out of it and you were able to stand up. 470 00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:27,855 I know a lot of many, many years 471 00:18:27,932 --> 00:18:30,733 where you held it in and held it in. 472 00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:31,984 Boy, did I hold it in. 473 00:18:31,986 --> 00:18:34,612 I always had a tendency to hold it in. 474 00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:36,656 He... he oversteps, 475 00:18:36,658 --> 00:18:41,285 he... he out maneuvers everything. 476 00:18:41,287 --> 00:18:44,122 I've noticed a change with Amy speaking up. 477 00:18:44,198 --> 00:18:47,542 And even sometimes with Chris, there are things that I think 478 00:18:47,618 --> 00:18:50,002 she was passive in the past and now she's like, 479 00:18:50,079 --> 00:18:52,255 "No, this is important to me, and I want you 480 00:18:52,257 --> 00:18:54,190 to hear what I have to say." 481 00:18:54,192 --> 00:18:57,135 Now with the farm sale, I think she's just finally said, 482 00:18:57,137 --> 00:18:59,178 "Enough. This is how I feel." 483 00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:03,182 And, and, with Matt, you nee to own up to what you've don 484 00:19:03,184 --> 00:19:05,935 To see the farm not go to one of the kids 485 00:19:05,979 --> 00:19:08,396 when that was their dream, it's just really sad 486 00:19:08,398 --> 00:19:10,314 for me to see that. 487 00:19:10,316 --> 00:19:14,485 Once the sale happens, maybe that will be an opportunity 488 00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:18,823 over time to break down and, you know, 489 00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:23,703 maybe he can or maybe the kids will be a lot more comfortable 490 00:19:23,779 --> 00:19:26,164 coming into something that works for them. 491 00:19:26,166 --> 00:19:28,291 As a relationship, you mean? 492 00:19:28,334 --> 00:19:29,500 Yeah. 493 00:19:29,577 --> 00:19:31,127 I know the boys are really hurt. 494 00:19:31,129 --> 00:19:33,921 I've actually had some conversations 495 00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:35,756 with... with them. 496 00:19:35,758 --> 00:19:38,009 And I don't know. 497 00:19:38,127 --> 00:19:39,677 That's something that's a healing process 498 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:42,972 because the kids, really, their heart was into it. 499 00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:46,559 And I just don't know if that came into play 500 00:19:46,561 --> 00:19:49,687 when the sale came about the way it did. 501 00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:52,481 I think it was maybe more financially driven. 502 00:19:52,483 --> 00:19:54,817 This wasn't a family deal. 503 00:19:54,819 --> 00:19:56,360 It was a business deal. 504 00:19:56,437 --> 00:19:57,645 They're done. 505 00:19:57,721 --> 00:19:59,113 They're not looking at buying the farm. 506 00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:00,239 No. 507 00:20:00,241 --> 00:20:01,532 It's like done. 508 00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:03,284 You move on. 509 00:20:03,361 --> 00:20:04,702 Yeah. 510 00:20:13,630 --> 00:20:16,505 [Jackson speaking] 511 00:20:40,782 --> 00:20:42,573 [Jackson speaking] 512 00:20:42,575 --> 00:20:45,034 -What? -[Jackson speaking] 513 00:20:49,123 --> 00:20:50,248 [Zach] Jackson and I are setting up 514 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:51,666 the new canvas tent. 515 00:20:51,668 --> 00:20:53,834 We're gonna have a family campfire dinner, 516 00:20:53,836 --> 00:20:55,169 but only Jackson and I, 517 00:20:55,246 --> 00:20:56,462 are gonna be camping out tonight. 518 00:20:58,508 --> 00:21:00,424 [Jackson speaking] 519 00:21:02,387 --> 00:21:04,887 Jackson, you're the one that's supposed to be helping me. 520 00:21:04,889 --> 00:21:06,472 Why did you give him a popsicle 521 00:21:06,474 --> 00:21:08,307 when he was supposed to be helping me? 522 00:21:08,309 --> 00:21:10,351 I wanted a popsicle, and I knew if I got 523 00:21:10,353 --> 00:21:13,145 a popsicle, I'd be in trouble if I didn't get them one, so. 524 00:21:14,399 --> 00:21:16,732 -Unbelievable. -I didn't think that one through. 525 00:21:19,988 --> 00:21:21,112 See that. 526 00:21:21,114 --> 00:21:23,030 Oops, can you get that one? 527 00:21:28,329 --> 00:21:31,163 I loved going camping as a kid with the family. 528 00:21:31,165 --> 00:21:33,541 When I was a kid, me and my dad would take 529 00:21:33,543 --> 00:21:37,003 us camping far out in the Oregon wilderness. 530 00:21:37,005 --> 00:21:38,546 And it was always a fun time 531 00:21:38,548 --> 00:21:41,299 Go! 532 00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:42,675 [Zach] One of my favorite things to do. 533 00:21:42,677 --> 00:21:44,427 [gun fires] 534 00:21:45,722 --> 00:21:47,763 Now, yeah, extending that to Jackson, 535 00:21:47,807 --> 00:21:49,932 I hope he likes to go be outdoors 536 00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:52,435 and this helps develop that love. 537 00:21:53,604 --> 00:21:56,397 I'm excited for when Josiah and Lilah get older, 538 00:21:56,399 --> 00:21:59,734 and we can all do a big family campout. 539 00:21:59,736 --> 00:22:01,527 All right, bring me a yellow one. 540 00:22:03,031 --> 00:22:04,155 And go. 541 00:22:04,231 --> 00:22:05,656 You did that fast. 542 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:08,826 God bless whoever color coordinated these. 543 00:22:08,903 --> 00:22:10,369 You did great, though, babe. 544 00:22:10,371 --> 00:22:11,996 You've already got the roof. 545 00:22:11,998 --> 00:22:13,748 Oh, here comes the hard part. 546 00:22:15,293 --> 00:22:19,962 [Jackson speaking] 547 00:22:22,467 --> 00:22:25,593 On a scale of one to ten, how helpful is Jackson? 548 00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:28,262 Uh, he's been helpful for a second there. 549 00:22:28,339 --> 00:22:30,139 [Tori] Is Daddy so good? 550 00:22:30,174 --> 00:22:31,432 [Jackson speaking] 551 00:22:33,061 --> 00:22:34,643 [Zach] Pole, Jackson. 552 00:22:34,645 --> 00:22:36,437 All right, drop the pole. 553 00:22:40,735 --> 00:22:42,151 Yay! 554 00:22:42,153 --> 00:22:43,176 Good job. 555 00:22:43,254 --> 00:22:45,237 Good job, Jackson. Very helpful. 556 00:22:45,314 --> 00:22:48,991 Even though Jackson started off slow, he came through. 557 00:22:48,993 --> 00:22:50,701 Wow! 558 00:22:51,913 --> 00:22:53,954 Good job, boys. 559 00:22:53,956 --> 00:22:55,706 [Zach speaking] 560 00:22:57,001 --> 00:22:58,667 [Jackson speaking] 561 00:22:58,669 --> 00:23:00,127 Just the boys. 562 00:23:00,129 --> 00:23:01,712 Why can't the girls come? 563 00:23:01,789 --> 00:23:04,298 [Jackson speaking] 564 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:07,051 -Yeah. -[Jackson speaking] 565 00:23:09,222 --> 00:23:11,097 [Tori speaking] 566 00:23:11,099 --> 00:23:13,557 [Jackson speaking] 567 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:16,310 Now it's time for just the boys to set 568 00:23:16,312 --> 00:23:17,603 everything up in the tent. 569 00:23:17,605 --> 00:23:19,522 What are you going to bring in the tent? 570 00:23:19,565 --> 00:23:20,898 Um, my pillow. 571 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:22,817 [Zach] Pillow and your pal. 572 00:23:22,819 --> 00:23:24,944 [Jackson] Bunny and-- 573 00:23:24,946 --> 00:23:26,612 And shall we bring some board games? 574 00:23:26,614 --> 00:23:28,155 Yeah. Like, Trouble. 575 00:23:28,157 --> 00:23:30,199 [Jackson speaking] 576 00:23:31,661 --> 00:23:32,827 Thank you. 577 00:23:32,829 --> 00:23:34,120 Can't wait to camp out with you. 578 00:23:34,122 --> 00:23:36,288 [Jackson speaking] 579 00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:37,957 In business. 580 00:23:39,001 --> 00:23:40,167 Hope the bumpers are up. 581 00:23:40,169 --> 00:23:42,586 [man] Coming up. 582 00:23:42,663 --> 00:23:43,879 Bowling is a little tricky for me. 583 00:23:43,881 --> 00:23:45,131 That's a bad one. 584 00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:47,466 My fingers don't really fit in the hole. 585 00:23:47,543 --> 00:23:48,717 Good one. 586 00:23:48,719 --> 00:23:51,345 Oh, that wasn't right. 587 00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:53,505 And later. 588 00:23:53,582 --> 00:23:55,558 When it comes to Jackson being different, I don't think 589 00:23:55,601 --> 00:23:57,309 he's caught on yet. 590 00:23:57,311 --> 00:23:59,645 We haven't had the talk about how we're different 591 00:23:59,722 --> 00:24:01,346 than everyone else. 592 00:24:01,348 --> 00:24:04,066 I worry about, like, he's so like, has such confidence 593 00:24:04,068 --> 00:24:06,068 in himself, I hope that that doesn't break 594 00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:07,519 him down, you know? 595 00:24:07,596 --> 00:24:10,698 That's like part of the sad thing of the transition 596 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:12,616 of like being a dwarf and then recognizing 597 00:24:12,618 --> 00:24:15,494 like, "Oh, wow, I am being left behind." 598 00:24:31,512 --> 00:24:32,720 [Ty] Hi there. 599 00:24:32,796 --> 00:24:34,180 How's it going? 600 00:24:34,256 --> 00:24:35,756 Good. 601 00:24:35,758 --> 00:24:39,268 We're here to do some bowling, so I need, like, 10.5s. 602 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:40,302 Ten-and-a-halves. 603 00:24:40,304 --> 00:24:41,937 I'm just going to keep my shoes. 604 00:24:41,939 --> 00:24:43,481 I know that kind of breaks the rules, but yeah. 605 00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:44,648 -Not a problem. -Is that okay? 606 00:24:44,725 --> 00:24:46,233 You sure you don't want bowling shoes? 607 00:24:46,235 --> 00:24:50,029 No, I would... I would trip and fall. 608 00:24:50,031 --> 00:24:51,822 Ty's kind of bigger than lif 609 00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:54,909 You know, him and I go way back, and he's a fun guy. 610 00:24:54,985 --> 00:24:56,702 When's the last time you went bowling? 611 00:24:56,779 --> 00:24:58,537 Oh, probably about ten years ago. 612 00:24:58,539 --> 00:25:00,498 You guys are gonna stay in the same house together? 613 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:02,500 [Matt] No, we're going to show them our house, 614 00:25:02,576 --> 00:25:04,710 but we're not going to... we're not going to go that far. 615 00:25:04,712 --> 00:25:06,879 [Ty] A lot of people marry their spouse a second time. 616 00:25:06,881 --> 00:25:08,047 My friend Tina. 617 00:25:08,123 --> 00:25:09,215 [Matt] What? We're not going there. 618 00:25:09,217 --> 00:25:11,509 -Yeah, yeah. -You need to just stop. 619 00:25:11,511 --> 00:25:13,427 I don't even really remembe when the first time 620 00:25:13,429 --> 00:25:15,846 I met him, but we immediately clicked. 621 00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:18,057 And we've been buddies ever since. 622 00:25:18,059 --> 00:25:19,683 Okay. 623 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,018 Bowling. 624 00:25:21,095 --> 00:25:23,729 Hope the... hope bumpers are up. 625 00:25:23,731 --> 00:25:24,855 Ready, Ty? 626 00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:26,232 [Ty] I'm ready. 627 00:25:27,944 --> 00:25:29,276 [Matthew] Bowling's cool. 628 00:25:29,278 --> 00:25:30,819 I enjoy it. 629 00:25:30,821 --> 00:25:32,947 Oh! 630 00:25:32,949 --> 00:25:34,365 That wasn't right. 631 00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:35,741 Not good. 632 00:25:35,743 --> 00:25:37,701 But bowling's a little tricky for me. 633 00:25:37,703 --> 00:25:40,704 First off, my fingers don't really fit in the hole. 634 00:25:40,706 --> 00:25:43,123 In any of the holes... any of my fingers. 635 00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:46,126 [Matthew speaking] 636 00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:52,633 Although I should try that sometime. 637 00:25:52,635 --> 00:25:54,718 But I do have fun just pushing it down. 638 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,098 And, you know, I try to push it as fast as you can so that 639 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,392 it doesn't roll into the gutter. 640 00:26:01,468 --> 00:26:03,561 -I put a little spin on it. -There you go. 641 00:26:06,899 --> 00:26:09,483 Oh, good one. 642 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,859 It's going to curve over. 643 00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:12,403 That's a bad one. 644 00:26:14,824 --> 00:26:16,532 Nice form, Ty. 645 00:26:16,534 --> 00:26:17,950 Oh, right there. 646 00:26:17,952 --> 00:26:19,201 You got it. 647 00:26:20,413 --> 00:26:21,579 [Ty] Right down the center. 648 00:26:21,581 --> 00:26:22,830 [Zach] Here we go. 649 00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:26,208 [Ty] Oh, there you go. 650 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:27,960 [Zach] There you go, baby. 651 00:26:27,962 --> 00:26:29,211 You got it. 652 00:26:30,339 --> 00:26:31,922 Good job. 653 00:26:31,999 --> 00:26:34,091 Going bowling was kind of fun. 654 00:26:34,093 --> 00:26:35,801 I don't know why I don't do it more often. 655 00:26:35,878 --> 00:26:38,178 It took a little toll on the ol' body, 656 00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:40,639 but it was, for the most part, pretty enjoyable. 657 00:26:40,641 --> 00:26:42,391 Okay, take a break. 658 00:26:42,393 --> 00:26:44,268 What do you think so far, huh? 659 00:26:44,270 --> 00:26:45,603 Yeah. I'm glad. 660 00:26:45,605 --> 00:26:48,022 It's good to get out, get away from the farm. 661 00:26:48,024 --> 00:26:49,181 Go out with you. 662 00:26:49,183 --> 00:26:50,891 -There you go. -We're not somewhere... 663 00:26:50,893 --> 00:26:53,527 Are you still excited to sell it? What's going on with that? 664 00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:57,156 Yeah. Well, we had people looking at it today. 665 00:26:57,232 --> 00:26:59,617 -[Ty] Oh, you did? -Yeah. Second visit. 666 00:27:00,911 --> 00:27:02,745 Tomorrow, a third visit. 667 00:27:02,747 --> 00:27:03,871 Wow. 668 00:27:03,873 --> 00:27:06,749 A couple of new folks had come in 669 00:27:06,751 --> 00:27:08,626 to look at the property in the north side. 670 00:27:08,628 --> 00:27:12,880 And I'm pleased with the interest level. 671 00:27:12,882 --> 00:27:14,923 You excited to have a neighbor? 672 00:27:14,925 --> 00:27:17,968 Yeah. I mean, it's... it's sad and happy. 673 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:19,887 I mean, it's like a relief, you know. 674 00:27:19,963 --> 00:27:21,555 I'm not so sorry about the big house... 675 00:27:21,632 --> 00:27:23,123 [Ty] Right. 676 00:27:23,142 --> 00:27:24,683 ...because I haven't lived there for however many years. 677 00:27:24,685 --> 00:27:26,143 -It's been a long time. -Long time. 678 00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:27,603 -[Ty] Long time. -[Zach] Oh, here comes. 679 00:27:27,605 --> 00:27:29,388 All right. 680 00:27:29,464 --> 00:27:31,774 Are we okay down here? I know that's kind of breaking the rules. 681 00:27:31,817 --> 00:27:33,525 Absolutely. No, you can drink it right down here. 682 00:27:33,602 --> 00:27:35,402 -Thank you. Yeah. -Bacardi with Diet. 683 00:27:35,404 --> 00:27:36,779 Perfect. Thank you. Thank you, my friend. 684 00:27:36,781 --> 00:27:38,063 Cheers. 685 00:27:38,065 --> 00:27:40,115 When I bought the farm, I said to myself... 686 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:42,868 [Matthew speaking] 687 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:45,412 To me it's just, "Okay, so it took 30 years, but..." 688 00:27:45,489 --> 00:27:46,455 Right. 689 00:27:46,457 --> 00:27:48,415 I'm not feeling quite as sad. 690 00:27:48,417 --> 00:27:51,293 I think I'm feeling more a sense of relief. 691 00:27:51,295 --> 00:27:53,295 [Matthew speaking] 692 00:27:53,297 --> 00:27:54,838 [Matthew] And I think Amy did, too. 693 00:27:54,915 --> 00:27:57,091 And I think some of the kids kind of, you know, it's hard. 694 00:27:57,167 --> 00:27:58,634 It's where they grew up. 695 00:27:58,636 --> 00:28:01,845 My prayer and my wish is I want them to look back 696 00:28:01,847 --> 00:28:03,639 and think about the good memories 697 00:28:03,641 --> 00:28:05,808 and how it was amazing childhood 698 00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:07,309 and that it was wonderful. 699 00:28:07,353 --> 00:28:08,769 Yeah, that's interesting. 700 00:28:08,846 --> 00:28:10,938 It'd be interesting when you build a house... 701 00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:13,273 -Oh, yeah. -...what your feelings. 702 00:28:13,275 --> 00:28:14,441 Did you hear what we found out? 703 00:28:14,518 --> 00:28:15,734 No. 704 00:28:15,811 --> 00:28:17,277 They're telling me that it's going to take, 705 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,613 like, six months to get a permit. 706 00:28:19,615 --> 00:28:20,939 That's what it just took us. 707 00:28:21,016 --> 00:28:22,616 That puts me right in the middle of rainy season. 708 00:28:22,693 --> 00:28:24,868 Now I got to wait till it dries out again. 709 00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:26,537 Yeah, you can't build that house in the... 710 00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:27,955 Nah, it's not going to happen this year. 711 00:28:27,957 --> 00:28:29,373 [Ty] Wow. 712 00:28:29,375 --> 00:28:32,251 Well, the new house build, 713 00:28:32,327 --> 00:28:36,839 it's... the word that I heard today is logjam. 714 00:28:36,841 --> 00:28:42,344 There's a logjam at the county for the permitting process. 715 00:28:42,346 --> 00:28:45,055 So the new house project is going to take longer. 716 00:28:45,057 --> 00:28:47,015 A little bit frustrating. 717 00:28:47,017 --> 00:28:51,478 It's a long time. It sets me back almost a year. 718 00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:54,732 I think Caryn's disappointe about what's happening. 719 00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:57,609 Right now, we're just sort of hanging out in limbo. 720 00:28:57,686 --> 00:29:00,779 It just doesn't make sense for us, for me to propose to her, 721 00:29:00,781 --> 00:29:02,948 for us to get married until we have a place 722 00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:04,557 that we can land in. 723 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:07,077 And neither one of our house work for each other. 724 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:09,913 So it's just very, very disappointing. 725 00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:11,832 He's behind by ten points. 726 00:29:11,834 --> 00:29:14,793 He throws it down for the good old man. 727 00:29:16,297 --> 00:29:18,547 What did I tell you? 728 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:20,424 -I won. -I lost by two. 729 00:29:21,927 --> 00:29:23,594 Oh, jeez. 730 00:29:23,596 --> 00:29:25,053 I love it. 731 00:29:27,975 --> 00:29:29,224 [man] Coming up. 732 00:29:29,226 --> 00:29:30,684 We're keeping it simple. 733 00:29:30,686 --> 00:29:32,394 Hot dogs, buns, and ketchup 734 00:29:32,396 --> 00:29:34,062 That's it. We don't need anything else. 735 00:29:34,064 --> 00:29:35,189 We all ended up just eating hot dogs 736 00:29:35,191 --> 00:29:36,848 because we didn't have any beans. 737 00:29:36,925 --> 00:29:38,984 'Cause I forgot the beans 'cause I did the grocery shopping. 738 00:29:39,061 --> 00:29:41,403 But you also didn't put in an order for beans. 739 00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:43,489 Oh, you're about to get crushed. 740 00:29:43,565 --> 00:29:45,491 [producer speaking] 741 00:29:56,879 --> 00:29:58,545 Lilah, are you going night-night? 742 00:29:58,622 --> 00:29:59,871 Yes. 743 00:29:59,873 --> 00:30:02,424 No. We're going to do a fire and do hotdogs. 744 00:30:02,426 --> 00:30:04,718 You're gonna cook your own hotdog. 745 00:30:10,726 --> 00:30:13,101 [Zach speaking] 746 00:30:13,103 --> 00:30:16,104 We're keeping it simple. Hot dogs, buns and ketchup. 747 00:30:16,106 --> 00:30:17,773 That's it. I don't need anything else. 748 00:30:17,775 --> 00:30:18,982 We all ended up just eating hot dogs 749 00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:20,692 because we didn't have any beans. 750 00:30:20,694 --> 00:30:22,820 'Cause I forgot the beans 'cause I did the grocery shopping. 751 00:30:22,822 --> 00:30:23,862 So we had no beans. 752 00:30:23,864 --> 00:30:24,905 [producer speaking] 753 00:30:24,907 --> 00:30:26,698 She actually forgot the beans. 754 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,076 But you also didn't put in an order for beans. 755 00:30:29,152 --> 00:30:30,536 I... It was discussed. 756 00:30:30,538 --> 00:30:32,204 I would like to point out that you didn't put 757 00:30:32,206 --> 00:30:33,705 in an order for hot dogs either. 758 00:30:33,707 --> 00:30:35,057 It was discussed. 759 00:30:35,059 --> 00:30:38,210 I don't think I was there for that discussion. 760 00:30:38,212 --> 00:30:40,170 Oh, you're about to get crushed. 761 00:30:40,247 --> 00:30:41,421 -[producer speaking] -Roll the tape. 762 00:30:41,423 --> 00:30:42,564 Where was that? 763 00:30:42,566 --> 00:30:44,758 -Gosh. -When did we talk about it? 764 00:30:44,835 --> 00:30:46,969 -Yeah, we can do hot dogs. -We can do some hot dogs. 765 00:30:46,971 --> 00:30:48,720 And brown beans. Dad's favorite. 766 00:30:48,722 --> 00:30:50,931 -Daddy can do the brown beans. -My favorite. 767 00:30:54,812 --> 00:30:57,855 -Is that going to be your hot dog stick, J? -Yep. 768 00:30:57,857 --> 00:31:00,566 [Zach] I think he needs a bigger one. Doesn't he need like a big, thick one. 769 00:31:00,568 --> 00:31:01,900 I like that one. 770 00:31:01,902 --> 00:31:02,943 Thought that was a good one. 771 00:31:03,020 --> 00:31:04,653 I want this one. 772 00:31:04,697 --> 00:31:07,030 Tori, do you think I could just cook on this? 773 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,867 But then why did we just do those sticks? 774 00:31:09,869 --> 00:31:11,785 That was a waste of time. 775 00:31:11,862 --> 00:31:13,078 Ma. 776 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,204 I don't know. 777 00:31:14,206 --> 00:31:15,614 I got the grill. 778 00:31:15,690 --> 00:31:17,023 But then also, it's fun to like I actually 779 00:31:17,025 --> 00:31:18,792 have a hot dog on a stick, so I'm whittling 780 00:31:18,869 --> 00:31:20,285 the sticks down. 781 00:31:20,362 --> 00:31:22,087 The stick, that's a cool experience, though. 782 00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:23,881 Kids love that crap. 783 00:31:23,883 --> 00:31:26,758 Whittling a stick down, that's a pastime. 784 00:31:26,835 --> 00:31:28,302 I think dads love that crap. 785 00:31:28,378 --> 00:31:30,053 Give me the hot dogs. Lilah, you want hot dogs? 786 00:31:30,055 --> 00:31:31,430 Yeah. 787 00:31:31,432 --> 00:31:32,705 All right, you're going to-- 788 00:31:32,707 --> 00:31:35,100 I also know, in our garage, I have invested 789 00:31:35,177 --> 00:31:39,354 in two very long and safe pokers 790 00:31:39,356 --> 00:31:41,481 that you can put hot dogs on. 791 00:31:41,558 --> 00:31:43,317 But we don't know where those are. 792 00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,485 -I do know where they are. -Oh. 793 00:31:45,487 --> 00:31:47,362 Whatever you do, you do not touch this on the... 794 00:31:47,406 --> 00:31:48,697 on the black stuff. 795 00:31:48,699 --> 00:31:49,907 -Don't hit the ash. -[Zach] The ash. 796 00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:51,199 So don't hit the ground. 797 00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:53,994 He's most certainly going to hit the ash. 798 00:31:54,071 --> 00:31:56,121 [Jackson speaking] 799 00:31:58,083 --> 00:31:59,166 God bless. 800 00:31:59,168 --> 00:32:01,126 Classic. 801 00:32:02,379 --> 00:32:04,212 Let's let the boys do this. 802 00:32:04,214 --> 00:32:06,924 And the girls are going to sit and watch tonight. 803 00:32:06,926 --> 00:32:08,800 Look it. See, daddy's putting hot dog on. 804 00:32:08,802 --> 00:32:10,928 [Jackson speaking] 805 00:32:11,004 --> 00:32:12,262 [Zach] I don't know. 806 00:32:12,264 --> 00:32:13,931 [Tori] I love me a good hot dog. 807 00:32:14,007 --> 00:32:17,309 And, like, over the campfire, it's just like... 808 00:32:17,386 --> 00:32:18,602 it's the only way to do it. 809 00:32:18,679 --> 00:32:19,937 There's no other way to do it. 810 00:32:20,013 --> 00:32:21,355 Good thing we don't have beans. 811 00:32:21,357 --> 00:32:22,481 Lilah's got the toots. 812 00:32:22,557 --> 00:32:23,523 Yeah. 813 00:32:23,525 --> 00:32:26,026 [Tori speaking] 814 00:32:26,028 --> 00:32:27,110 Is this? 815 00:32:27,112 --> 00:32:28,403 That's awesome. 816 00:32:28,447 --> 00:32:29,696 [Tori speaking] 817 00:32:29,698 --> 00:32:32,991 Ooh, you better tell Daddy thank you. 818 00:32:32,993 --> 00:32:34,660 That looks good. 819 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:38,705 [Michael speaking] 820 00:32:38,707 --> 00:32:40,457 It might be hot, so-- 821 00:32:43,837 --> 00:32:45,253 What's wrong with it? 822 00:32:45,255 --> 00:32:47,297 [Michael speaking] 823 00:32:54,014 --> 00:32:56,014 She is me. 824 00:32:56,091 --> 00:32:57,474 She is 1,000 percent me. 825 00:32:57,551 --> 00:32:58,550 Yeah? 826 00:32:58,552 --> 00:33:00,435 Yeah, that would have been me, 100%. 827 00:33:00,437 --> 00:33:02,354 Got anything on my hand, I freak out. 828 00:33:02,431 --> 00:33:03,730 Dada! 829 00:33:03,732 --> 00:33:05,691 Can you put it back in? 830 00:33:05,767 --> 00:33:08,110 Lilah's not your roughing i type of girl. 831 00:33:08,112 --> 00:33:09,945 She gets bothered by the littlest things. 832 00:33:09,989 --> 00:33:12,406 Smoke, dust, pebble in her shoe 833 00:33:12,408 --> 00:33:14,533 can throw her off, her whole mood off. 834 00:33:14,535 --> 00:33:18,203 So I don't think Lilah is gonna be your outdoorsy kind of girl. 835 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,040 Jackson, Mikey and Jess. 836 00:33:22,042 --> 00:33:24,001 And they have a boy, Michael, 837 00:33:24,003 --> 00:33:25,711 who's your same age are going to come. 838 00:33:25,713 --> 00:33:27,170 [Tori] Is he four or three? Do you know? 839 00:33:27,247 --> 00:33:30,132 He's four. Closer to five, though, than he is. 840 00:33:30,217 --> 00:33:32,634 Jackson, that's your same age is coming. 841 00:33:32,636 --> 00:33:34,970 -How cool is that? -[Tori] That'll be fun, having a friend here. 842 00:33:35,014 --> 00:33:36,888 [Zach] They're going to stay the whole weekend with us. 843 00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:38,724 We're going to go to the beach with them. 844 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,517 My friend Mikey and his family are coming 845 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,561 to visit us from Indiana. 846 00:33:42,637 --> 00:33:44,855 Mikey and me go back a couple of years. 847 00:33:44,931 --> 00:33:47,315 We've played on a couple of dwarf athletic teams together. 848 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,818 And Mikey and Jess have a son themselves 849 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:51,695 that's around the same age as Jackson. 850 00:33:51,697 --> 00:33:53,238 -Jackson? -Yeah. 851 00:33:53,315 --> 00:33:56,867 How did you like playing soccer at DAAA? 852 00:33:56,869 --> 00:33:58,910 Was it fun with those kids? 853 00:33:58,912 --> 00:34:00,019 Yeah. 854 00:34:00,097 --> 00:34:01,747 Are you gonna be a soccer player now? 855 00:34:01,749 --> 00:34:04,207 [Jackson speaking] 856 00:34:05,377 --> 00:34:07,085 -Oh, my goodness. -[Jackson speaking] 857 00:34:07,087 --> 00:34:09,379 You've got a busy life ahead of you, dude. 858 00:34:09,381 --> 00:34:10,797 Yeah, yeah. 859 00:34:10,874 --> 00:34:13,341 I'm stoked that he appears to like soccer. 860 00:34:13,343 --> 00:34:15,302 He's still asks, "When do I go back to soccer? 861 00:34:15,337 --> 00:34:16,494 When do I... 862 00:34:16,496 --> 00:34:19,014 So I think he is into soccer currently." 863 00:34:19,058 --> 00:34:20,390 Okay, Jackson, can you do me a favor? 864 00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:21,725 What? 865 00:34:21,727 --> 00:34:23,935 Can you go grab my water cup on the porch there? 866 00:34:26,356 --> 00:34:28,899 [Tori] Thank you. 867 00:34:28,901 --> 00:34:30,567 I had a lot of fun with him at LPA. 868 00:34:30,569 --> 00:34:32,444 But it has got me thinking. 869 00:34:32,521 --> 00:34:34,571 I feel like he is getting close to realizing, 870 00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:35,781 like, he is different. 871 00:34:35,783 --> 00:34:36,740 Yeah. 872 00:34:36,817 --> 00:34:38,408 He wanted to know at LPA. 873 00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:40,994 He was like, "Dad, why are you playing with all the kids?" 874 00:34:40,996 --> 00:34:43,080 He sees me as dad and an adult, 875 00:34:43,156 --> 00:34:44,372 but he's like looking at me playing 876 00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:45,582 with all the other dwarves. 877 00:34:45,584 --> 00:34:48,043 And then he was paired up with the futures, 878 00:34:48,045 --> 00:34:50,170 kids his age that are dwarves, and he's like, 879 00:34:50,247 --> 00:34:51,671 "Why am I playing with the babies?" 880 00:34:51,748 --> 00:34:53,256 There's a picture of him looking 881 00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:55,509 at these four other dwarves his age going like... 882 00:34:57,304 --> 00:34:59,846 Like, "Is this my class?" 883 00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:01,098 You know, like... 884 00:35:01,174 --> 00:35:02,224 I'm not, like, super worried 885 00:35:02,226 --> 00:35:03,825 about it, you know what I'm saying? 886 00:35:03,827 --> 00:35:06,853 But it's just more of, like, a curiosity thing, you know? 887 00:35:06,855 --> 00:35:08,146 Do you think about it? 888 00:35:22,454 --> 00:35:24,412 I had a lot of fun with him at LPA. 889 00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:25,747 [Tori] Yeah. 890 00:35:25,791 --> 00:35:28,250 But it has got me thinking. 891 00:35:28,293 --> 00:35:30,168 I feel like he is getting close to realizing 892 00:35:30,245 --> 00:35:31,628 like he is different. 893 00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:32,921 -Yeah. -[Zach] Do you think about it? 894 00:35:32,923 --> 00:35:34,464 Yeah, I do. 895 00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:36,174 [Zach] When it comes to Jackson being different, 896 00:35:36,209 --> 00:35:38,260 I don't think he's caught on yet. 897 00:35:38,262 --> 00:35:41,221 We haven't had the talk yet about how we're different 898 00:35:41,298 --> 00:35:42,881 than everyone else. 899 00:35:42,883 --> 00:35:44,724 He kept saying, like, "Dad, they all look like you 900 00:35:44,726 --> 00:35:46,351 I think he's gathered it. 901 00:35:46,353 --> 00:35:48,228 I just don't know if he's gathered it enough 902 00:35:48,305 --> 00:35:50,897 to personify himself as that. 903 00:35:50,974 --> 00:35:52,899 I think he's I think he's gathered 904 00:35:52,901 --> 00:35:55,110 that, like, these people are like dad and grandma 905 00:35:55,112 --> 00:35:57,821 and grandpa, but they're not like me. 906 00:35:57,823 --> 00:35:59,781 With Jay, he hasn't got there yet. 907 00:35:59,783 --> 00:36:01,658 He hasn't like, "Oh, we're going to this 908 00:36:01,735 --> 00:36:04,870 because I have achondroplasia and we're going to, like, 909 00:36:04,872 --> 00:36:06,580 meet other people with achondroplasia 910 00:36:06,582 --> 00:36:08,957 or types of dwarfism. 911 00:36:08,992 --> 00:36:11,376 I worry about, like, he's so proud of himself 912 00:36:11,378 --> 00:36:14,004 and so, like, has such confidence in himself 913 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,464 and sees himself so highly, 914 00:36:16,466 --> 00:36:19,176 I hope that that doesn't break him down. You know? 915 00:36:19,252 --> 00:36:21,970 I think we have to, like, continue to foster that 916 00:36:21,972 --> 00:36:23,471 as best we can. 917 00:36:23,473 --> 00:36:24,973 [Zach] I hope he doesn't lose it. 918 00:36:24,975 --> 00:36:26,975 But it's also super sad when you do have 919 00:36:26,977 --> 00:36:29,936 such confidence in yourself and then, like, eventually 920 00:36:30,013 --> 00:36:31,504 it'll catch on to him. 921 00:36:31,581 --> 00:36:34,649 That's like part of the sad thing of the transition 922 00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:36,693 of like being a dwarf and then recognizing, 923 00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:38,987 like, you do have such... I belong here, 924 00:36:38,989 --> 00:36:40,739 I'm this, I'm that. 925 00:36:40,815 --> 00:36:42,699 And then you slowly like, "Oh, wow, 926 00:36:42,776 --> 00:36:44,201 I am being left behind." 927 00:36:44,203 --> 00:36:46,703 And you can't catch up. 928 00:36:46,705 --> 00:36:50,457 I went through it and there's not really one big moment 929 00:36:50,459 --> 00:36:54,586 I had that I was like, "Oh, wow. I have dwarfism." 930 00:36:54,588 --> 00:36:58,924 It's like little moments tha kind of accumulate, you know 931 00:36:58,926 --> 00:37:02,177 racing at school or playing chase. 932 00:37:02,179 --> 00:37:04,679 I remember having moments maybe, like, I was frustrated 933 00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:06,514 because all the friends would run away. 934 00:37:06,516 --> 00:37:08,516 Like, they would run away from me. 935 00:37:09,853 --> 00:37:11,394 I, like, vaguely have this memory 936 00:37:11,396 --> 00:37:12,979 of like I was always coming in the house going, 937 00:37:12,981 --> 00:37:15,482 "Mom, they ran away again," you know? 938 00:37:15,484 --> 00:37:16,900 And then my mom would yell at Jeremy 939 00:37:16,977 --> 00:37:19,110 like, "Don't leave your brother behind!" 940 00:37:19,112 --> 00:37:21,404 It was so like, demoralizin because it's such 941 00:37:21,406 --> 00:37:24,491 like a little brother thing, you know? 942 00:37:24,567 --> 00:37:27,577 I'm not the little brother, so. 943 00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:32,457 That collision of confidenc and self-worth 944 00:37:32,534 --> 00:37:35,961 and then reality is what hurts the most. 945 00:37:36,037 --> 00:37:37,236 It's coming for him. 946 00:37:37,238 --> 00:37:39,965 So that's... I... it's coming from my kids. 947 00:37:41,969 --> 00:37:43,969 You're more worried about it? 948 00:37:43,971 --> 00:37:45,553 Not like worried, but just... 949 00:37:45,555 --> 00:37:47,430 Yeah, like, how are we going to approach it 950 00:37:47,432 --> 00:37:50,892 and how are we going to, like, make it positive 951 00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:53,061 and... you know? 952 00:37:54,231 --> 00:37:56,731 Honestly, it's that one I'm more worried about. 953 00:38:01,989 --> 00:38:03,321 Unbelievable. 954 00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:06,449 Are the girls done? 955 00:38:06,526 --> 00:38:07,742 Can we go? 956 00:38:07,744 --> 00:38:09,202 -I think we're done. -Are you all done? 957 00:38:09,204 --> 00:38:10,537 Dada. 958 00:38:10,539 --> 00:38:13,623 You're fine. Stop that. Go, go. 959 00:38:14,876 --> 00:38:17,127 All right. I think we're going in. 960 00:38:20,132 --> 00:38:22,382 [Zach] She's so excited to go inside. 961 00:38:22,384 --> 00:38:27,887 [Jackson speaking] 962 00:38:27,889 --> 00:38:29,472 All right. You ready for your last hot dog? 963 00:38:29,549 --> 00:38:30,473 Yep. 964 00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:32,309 Don't get eaten by a bear. Okay? 965 00:38:32,311 --> 00:38:34,352 Are you sure you don't want Josiah to camp out with you? 966 00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:35,562 No. Bye-bye. 967 00:38:35,638 --> 00:38:36,563 Bye-bye. 968 00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:39,399 [Jackson speaking] 969 00:38:39,476 --> 00:38:40,817 All right, Jackson, are you excited? 970 00:38:40,819 --> 00:38:42,569 -Yeah. -It's been a while. 971 00:38:42,645 --> 00:38:45,405 We'll stay up a little later, though. 972 00:38:45,407 --> 00:38:47,324 [Jackson speaking] 973 00:38:50,787 --> 00:38:52,412 Just the boys. 974 00:38:52,489 --> 00:38:55,665 Shall we take bath and go night-night with Josiah? 975 00:39:01,631 --> 00:39:02,714 [Jackson] Hey, Dad. 976 00:39:02,716 --> 00:39:03,798 [Zach] Yeah. 977 00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:06,217 [Jackson speaking] 978 00:39:06,294 --> 00:39:07,260 [Zach] Okay. 979 00:39:07,262 --> 00:39:09,054 Jackson loves camping out. 980 00:39:09,130 --> 00:39:11,806 He loves sleeping in the ten campfires. 981 00:39:11,808 --> 00:39:14,392 I think he just loves the one-on-one time too. 982 00:39:14,394 --> 00:39:17,562 All the other kids are in bed, and it's just him and me, 983 00:39:17,564 --> 00:39:19,314 and he loves all that. 984 00:39:19,316 --> 00:39:21,941 [Jackson] Hey, Dad, what's your favorite sport? 985 00:39:22,018 --> 00:39:23,943 [Zach speaking] 986 00:39:23,945 --> 00:39:26,237 [Jackson] That's my favorite sport, too. 987 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,240 -Yeah? -[Jackson] Remember, I play soccer? 988 00:39:29,242 --> 00:39:31,493 [Zach speaking] 989 00:39:31,536 --> 00:39:34,162 I love camping out with my dad. 990 00:39:34,206 --> 00:39:36,998 I love it when it's just the boys. 991 00:39:37,042 --> 00:39:39,250 Can Lilah come, though, sometimes? 992 00:39:41,254 --> 00:39:44,631 How about Josiah? Can Josiah come camp with us sometime? 993 00:39:45,675 --> 00:39:46,925 Not till he's older, though, right? 994 00:39:46,927 --> 00:39:48,218 Yeah. 995 00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:50,845 -Recording. -Yeah. 996 00:39:50,847 --> 00:39:53,306 [Zach] Can you get... get a little bit of fire first. 997 00:39:56,603 --> 00:39:58,103 [Jackson] I'm following you. 998 00:39:59,731 --> 00:40:03,900 [Zach speaking] 999 00:40:03,902 --> 00:40:05,902 I got a lot of good memorie camping with my family 1000 00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:06,861 growing up. 1001 00:40:06,863 --> 00:40:08,129 Yeah, that's why we... 1002 00:40:08,131 --> 00:40:09,406 you know, we definitely wanted property 1003 00:40:09,408 --> 00:40:11,366 to be able to do stuff like that. 1004 00:40:11,368 --> 00:40:12,951 My dad used to do that with us. 1005 00:40:12,953 --> 00:40:14,994 It used to be a boys camping trip. 1006 00:40:14,996 --> 00:40:16,638 And we would go either with our friends 1007 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,208 or my dad's friends, and then we would be the kid 1008 00:40:20,210 --> 00:40:22,627 That's... that's like my mai memory of camping. 1009 00:40:22,704 --> 00:40:24,629 [Jackson speaking] 1010 00:40:28,218 --> 00:40:29,759 As time goes on, my dad... 1011 00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:31,636 you know, we'll see more of my dad. 1012 00:40:31,638 --> 00:40:34,431 Jackson loves outdoors like grandpa. 1013 00:40:34,507 --> 00:40:36,766 I think Jackson would love it if he came up 1014 00:40:36,843 --> 00:40:38,059 for a campout or something like that. 1015 00:40:38,061 --> 00:40:41,563 [Jackson speaking] 1016 00:40:41,565 --> 00:40:43,857 [Zach] Teeny tiny bugs can get in the tent? 1017 00:40:43,859 --> 00:40:45,090 Yeah. 1018 00:40:45,168 --> 00:40:47,485 I don't think bugs can get through the mesh. 1019 00:40:47,487 --> 00:40:48,778 I just know he's going to remember 1020 00:40:48,855 --> 00:40:50,405 these moments and... 1021 00:40:51,992 --> 00:40:54,534 Yeah. We have fun together. 1022 00:40:54,536 --> 00:40:56,327 Hey, night-night, Jackson. 1023 00:40:56,329 --> 00:40:57,954 Good night. 1024 00:41:00,125 --> 00:41:02,292 [Jackson speaking] 1025 00:41:02,294 --> 00:41:04,878 [Zach] No, ants can't get that high. 1026 00:41:04,954 --> 00:41:08,006 [Jackson speaking] 1027 00:41:08,008 --> 00:41:10,717 -Night-night. -Night-night. 1028 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,095 [Jackson speaking] 1029 00:41:16,141 --> 00:41:18,516 Next on Little People, Big World. 1030 00:41:18,518 --> 00:41:21,811 Well, we kind of need to talk to them about pumpkin season. 1031 00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:24,189 I got to get my head around it. 1032 00:41:24,191 --> 00:41:26,983 I haven't quite decided whether I'll do pumpkin season 1033 00:41:26,985 --> 00:41:28,443 or how involved I'll be. 1034 00:41:28,445 --> 00:41:31,279 What makes pumpkin season a little more unique 1035 00:41:31,281 --> 00:41:34,824 is when there's some of the family members involved. 1036 00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:38,119 Pumpkin season's lost its lure for me now. 1037 00:41:42,501 --> 00:41:44,334 Mikey and Jess, 1038 00:41:44,336 --> 00:41:46,294 I've known them for years. 1039 00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:47,795 Their son is the same age as our son. 1040 00:41:47,797 --> 00:41:49,088 He's an LP as well. 1041 00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:51,549 This age is like the last years our kids 1042 00:41:51,551 --> 00:41:53,510 before they become aware of who they are. 1043 00:41:53,512 --> 00:41:55,678 They can run down the beach and not think about 1044 00:41:55,755 --> 00:41:57,430 like, who's looking at me, who's staring. 1045 00:41:57,432 --> 00:41:59,265 The older they get, they're going to start 1046 00:41:59,267 --> 00:42:01,351 realizing that the world maybe looks at them differently 1047 00:42:01,353 --> 00:42:03,228 or that they are different. 1048 00:42:03,304 --> 00:42:05,313 Jackson, I just think he has a stronger 1049 00:42:05,357 --> 00:42:06,731 confidence in himself. 1050 00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:08,358 I hope he doesn't lose it. 1051 00:42:12,656 --> 00:42:13,780 Well, I'm sorry. 1052 00:42:13,856 --> 00:42:15,323 I know this is hard for you. 1053 00:42:15,325 --> 00:42:18,493 I notified everybody, all the kids. 1054 00:42:19,871 --> 00:42:22,121 Said they all dropped everything. 1055 00:42:28,421 --> 00:42:29,587 Now I'm okay.