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[Tori] Jackson, good goal!
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Previously on
Little People, Big World...
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Whoo!
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It was a fun, like, first DAAA
experience for our family.
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[Zach] I saw my dad and Cary
at Jackson's soccer.
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I got to meet Josiah.
He's a little button.
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[Matt] But Zach and Tori
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So we didn't see
a lot of them.
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They were busy, you know,
taking care of the kids.
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[Tori] You want a snack?
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Lilah has stuff going on
with her ears
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which is, like, not good.
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So we're going to go see
a ear, nose, throat doctor
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to see if it's affecting
her hearing,
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delaying her speech.
Know what's going on.
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[Lilah cries]
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Have you talked to Matt
about this whole farm deal?
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He thinks he's owned up
to all his mistakes.
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-I'm like...
-[laughs]
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I think he better ask
all four of us. I don't know.
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[Lisa] I know the boys
are really hurt.
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I've actually had
some conversations
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and their heart was into it.
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But this wasn't
a "family deal".
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It was a business deal.
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[Tori] Are you going to be
a soccer player now?
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[Zach] I feel like he's
getting close to realizing,
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like, he's different.
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He's so proud of himself.
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I hope that that doesn't
break him down, you know.
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That collision of confidenc
and self-worth
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and then reality...
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It's coming for him.
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[Zach speaking]
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[Tori] I didn't get the memo
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that we're all wearing
blue today.
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Look how cute all of you are.
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[Tori] Thank you.
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-[hostess] You're welcome.
-[Tori] Hi.
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[Tori] Or do you want to
just sit here?
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-[Lilah] Yeah.
-[Jackson] Yeah, yeah.
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-Are you going to have
mac and cheese?
-[Lilah] Yeah.
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Do you want mac and cheese?
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-[server] How are you guys
doing today?
-[Lilah] Milk.
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-She would like a milk.
-[server] A milk?
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[server] A strawberry
lemonade? Yeah, of course.
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[Tori] And I will also do
a strawberry lemonade.
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[server] Strawberry lemonade.
All right, I'll get
started on that.
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-Thank you.
-[server] Of course.
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What did they check?
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[Jackson speaking]
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They checked your ears?
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-Mm-hmm.
-[Zach] Yeah and your mouth?
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When he checked your mouth,
what did you do?
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[Tori laughs]
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[Tori] A few weeks ago,
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got Lilah's annual
well-child check.
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They do the ear test
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for hearing and she failed it.
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So they were worried that
she has water behind her ears
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and that she maybe couldn't
hear us all the way,
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like it was muffled.
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And it's a possibility
that it could be
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contributing to her delay
in speech.
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So today I took her to
a hearing specialist
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to have more tests ran on he
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to figure out
what's happening.
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-[Jackson] Hey, Lilah.
-Is she deaf?
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-[Jackson speaking]
-[Lilah] Huh?
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-Yeah.
-[Tori laughs]
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So is she deaf?
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She has perfect hearing.
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-She has perfect hearing?
-[Tori] She has
perfect hearing.
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So she's just slow in talking.
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She's just slow in talking.
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The reason why she failed
the pressure test
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at the pediatrician's office
is because she has
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just an irregularly
shaped eardrum.
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But there's no water.
There's no water
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-behind her ear.
-There's nothing behind
her eardrums?
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No.
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She's just behind
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because she had two
ear infections in a row.
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However, currently
her ears look clear.
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Fascinating.
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[Tori] I think he was relive
to hear that.
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Yeah, she doesn't have
a hearing issue.
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Huge relief. Huge relief.
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Doesn't need any sort
of surgeries or anything.
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Yeah. Lilah does not
need tubes,
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that's not, like, even
a question anymore...
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-Is a relief.
-Yes, it's perfect.
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She also said,
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we can put her
in speech therapy.
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[Zach] When Jackson starts
full day's kindergarten,
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I really think you'll have
more time
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to work with her and do
your teaching thing.
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-Right.
-Not to put it all on you,
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-but I think--
-Totally.
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[Tori] I have a background
in child development.
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Not that I consider myself
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a speech pathologist,
by any means.
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-However, like I do have a lot
of tools in my back pocket.
-You have the basics.
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And I think that we can
help her a lot at home
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before we have to,
like, step into
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-a specialist's office.
-Yes.
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-[babbles]
-[Tori laughing]
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[Zach] I think I did
speech therapy
growing up.
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I think my pronunciation
was just...
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My pronunciation still sucks.
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[Tori] Well, it's
pruh-nuhn-ciiation,
first of all.
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-Pro-noun-ciation.
-It's pruh-nuhn-ciation.
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That's unbelievable.
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-[Tori laughs]
-I've never heard
that word before.
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I did have speech therapy.
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And if you ask Tori,
it did not work.
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[laugh]
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-I have pronunciation issues.
-"Pro-noun-ciation" issues...
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I love you.
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But also though, like,
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Amy Roloff, I love you
but "Or-gone..."
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-Oregon?
-"Or-gone",
"per-mia-sion" cheese?
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"Amb-lance".
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Again, sorry.
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[Zach] Um, so...
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This week, we have
the Witouses...
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-Mm-hmm.
-...are coming.
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Jess and Mikey and they have
a boy named Michael.
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And Jackson, he's pretty much
your same age.
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I've known them for years
in LPA.
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They are from Indiana,
South Bend, Indiana.
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Their son is the same age
as our son.
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He is an LP as well.
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So it will be kind of fun
to get Jackson a friend,
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you know, that's an LP
and see how he interacts.
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[Tori] It's been... What?
Five years, six years
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since you've seen them?
That will be fun.
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Hopefully we'll all get along.
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[Tori] Jackson doesn't
really have
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a lot of friends
with achondroplasia.
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I don't think he's made that
distinction anyway of, like,
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this friend doesn't
have achondroplasia
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and this friend does,
you know.
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[Zach] So when this Michael
guy comes,
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what do you want to
show him first?
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Oh, yeah.
He wants to figure out
if he's faster or not.
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This could easily not go well.
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Two alpha dudes going at it
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and just right off the bat
are going to be like,
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"I'm not sharing with you."
And then that's going to set
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the tone for the next
four days.
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There's definitely
a little bit like,
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"Ah! Is this going to work?"
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Ball.
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Josiah.
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[Tori] Very good.
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Look at you.
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[Amy] All right.
Okay, are we going
to be ready for this?
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I'm ready to go.
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Yeah, we're going to kick
some booty.
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-Oh, yeah. Right.
Good to see you.
-[laughs]
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-[Amy] Me too.
-Hey, good to see you.
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[Amy] Well, I don't know.
Chris had an energy drink.
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-[Lisa laughs] Oh, no!
-[Art] We're in trouble now.
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[Chris] Art and Lisa Fletche
are closest long term friend
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-[Chris] Rally time.
-[Amy] Bring it on!
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The funny thing is, I've got
two friends
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that are Lisa and Art,
Lisa and Art.
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I mean, what are the odds
of that?
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So I have Lisa and Art Dixo
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and then I have Lisa
and Art Fletcher.
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-[Chris] Ooh!
-[Amy grunts]
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-[Art] All right.
-[Chris] Nice move.
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-They are a perfect couple
to play with. It's just...
-Yeah.
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-They are a lot of fun.
-It's just really all about
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exercising and enjoying
the game.
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[Lisa] 2-4.
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[Chris exhales] All right!
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[Amy] For me, I always thin
it's a challenge
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playing with people
of average height
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because they just have
a better leverage than I do
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I mean, I'm...
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Not only a longer reach
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but I'm right even
with the net.
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So even if I have
a great back hand,
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my back hand is not
over the net.
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It's going right into the net.
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[Amy and Chris groans]
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But if I tilt my paddle up
to go over the net,
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it has a tendency to pop up.
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-[Amy] Oh.
-[Lisa] Yes! [laughs]
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Three, four, one.
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-[Amy groans]
-[Art] Game? Game point?
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[Amy] Ooh!
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[Chris laughs]
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No!
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-[Chris groans]
-Victory!
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-All right.
-Woop-woop!
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I don't know. We can't leave
it at one
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-but let's take a break.
-[Chris groans]
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[Amy] You know, Chris and I
look at each other,
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-"Oh, okay. They won this one.
We're gonna get the next one."
-Yeah.
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[Amy] I went to
the farmer's market,
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got all those raspberries
and I told you I'll bring it,
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you know, at our next game.
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I wanted to try something
that I've never done before.
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So I made raspberry sorbet
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and I made some
homemade granola
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and I just thought
that was a nice treat
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after being hot
and sweaty and...
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Yeah, good thinking.
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Do you guys want
anything more?
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[Art] No, I'm good.
This is great.
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That's plenty for me.
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Well, you know that
crazy farm of mine.
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Or not mine anymore.
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It's still up for sale,
right babe?
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It's still up for sale?
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[Art] No? Any interested
buyers at all?
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-I don't know.
-You're out of it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But I'll tell you.
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If I would have known now
what I did...
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I just had an idea, we kind of
generally talked about it
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and I thought it would go
this certain way, and...
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I was too afraid to take
that financial risk.
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-You're conservative.
-Yeah.
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[Amy] There's parts of me
that wished
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that I would have just
bought Matt out.
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And maybe I could have held
on to it for a year or two
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and I probably would have
just sold it
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to, you know, one of the boys.
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But obviously, with what Matt
has it at now,
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I mean, none of those boys
are able to afford that.
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I have all these memories
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-of, you know,
the Western town.
-I know.
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And... What was it?
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The progressive dinner
through the farm.
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-Oh, yeah, wasn't that fun?
-Yeah, that was awesome.
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-I loved that
progressive dinner.
-[Lisa] Like, driving mule.
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[Chris] When I first met Amy
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it was kind of talked about
and assumed
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that the side that Amy
lived on,
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that side would continue on
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with one of the twins,
the older boys.
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So I was disappointed
that neither Zach or Jeremy
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was able to work that out
with their dad, and...
248
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You know, unfortunately,
Zach and Tori,
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they headed north
to Battle Ground, and...
250
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Um, it's a shame that
they are farther away.
251
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We don't see them
nearly as often.
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Yeah, I definitely think both
the boys have moved on
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but it doesn't mean
whatever feelings
254
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and emotions and history
suddenly goes away
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and everything's back
to hunky-dory.
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I think it will take time
for them.
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[Amy speaking]
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[Zach speaking]
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[Zach] I hope that Jackson
will get along with Michael
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If they don't get along,
it could be a long weekend.
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[Michael screams] Maa!
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[Amy speaks]
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[Caryn] Oh, I'm sorry.
I know this is hard for you.
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My dad was getting
more and more ill and...
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No, no, no, no, no.
266
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We'll do this later.
267
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This will take forever
to wrap back up.
268
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So my dad let us know
that papa's in the hospital
269
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with complications from COVID.
270
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The whole family got
a group text from my dad
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that Papa's not doing well.
272
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But he's fighting.
273
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You know, so it's not time
to come down yet
274
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and so we're going to enjoy
our time with the Witouses.
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Um, but I'm on standby.
276
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I honestly think we need about
eight stools.
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Tori and Josiah went
to go pick up
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the Witouses from the airpor
279
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And Jackson and Lilah
and me waited at home.
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The Witouses were not at
the Spokane convention
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and so we are glad that
they are able to come out he
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and visit us here
in Washington.
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Go put these in your room.
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Quick, run fast as you can.
Go, go, go.
285
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'Cause they are coming. Quick!
286
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Five, four, three, two...
287
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I think it should be fun
for Jackson to play
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with someone else
that has achondroplasia
289
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and it's kind of nice being
able to talk to parents
290
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that just might go through
the same thing
291
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or are going through
the same thing.
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[Zach] Hey.
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-[Jess] Hello.
-[Tori] Ooh! You're looking
fresh, J.
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-[Zach] How are we doing?
-[Mikey] Good, how are you?
295
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-[Zach] I'm good, how was it?
-It was a good flight.
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-[Mikey] Not bad.
-[Jess] Yeah.
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-Early but good.
-[Zach] Yeah?
298
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-Good thing you got...
-Yeah, you too.
299
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-Thanks for coming out.
-Yeah, thanks for having us.
300
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So we are Mike
and Jess Witous.
301
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The way to remember it is,
"Witous or against us."
302
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It's how I have always
said it.
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People tend to remember it
that way.
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Hey, Michael.
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[Tori] Are you Michael too?
306
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-Technically, yeah.
-[Tori] Technically, okay.
307
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Because my dad's Michael,
308
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so he goes by Mike,
I go by Mikey.
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[Zach] So it's a whole
family thing.
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-[Tori] This is like
a family thing.
-[Jess] Yeah.
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-[Tori] I love that.
-It's not confusing at all.
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-[Mikey] Yeah, yeah.
-[Jess] By any means.
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[Mikey] I'm one of four
kids in my family.
314
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Everyone's average height
in my family.
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I was born into an average
height family
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and then at three months
I was adopted
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into another average height...
318
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a family of average
height parents
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but they had already adopted
two girls, in different times,
320
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but two girls with
dwarfism already.
321
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So I have two sisters
that are both dwarfs.
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[Zach] Oh hey, Lilah,
are you part of this too?
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Here, we can jump inside.
324
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[Zach] Let's get out
of the heat here.
325
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[Zach] Go on, Jackson.
326
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Can you say hi?
327
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This guy is Michael.
328
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Yeah, Mikey and me go back
a couple of years.
329
00:13:35,482 --> 00:13:37,899
We've played on
a couple of dwarf athletic
teams together.
330
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Her first convention,
we hung out with them
331
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but that was before
any of us had kids.
332
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-We got along really well.
-Yeah.
333
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[Zach] I think Jackson
just knows
334
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that someone's
coming to visit.
335
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-So all of the next
four days--
- [Tori] He's stoked, yea
336
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[Zach] ... is going to be,
like, different.
337
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So there's gonna always be
someone to play with.
338
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I hope that Jackson
will get along with Michael
339
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If they don't get along,
it could be a long weekend.
340
00:13:58,338 --> 00:14:00,171
[Jess] You want to show me
your Batman?
341
00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:02,215
-I bet Jackson likes Batman.
-Is that your Batman?
342
00:14:02,968 --> 00:14:04,634
-Jackson's a Spiderman guy.
-[Jess] Yeah.
343
00:14:07,472 --> 00:14:09,597
-[Zach] Yeah.
-[Jess] He's the same, right?
344
00:14:09,674 --> 00:14:14,310
And you kind of like
the bad guys too, don't you?
345
00:14:15,522 --> 00:14:16,762
[Jess] No?
346
00:14:19,276 --> 00:14:20,900
You like superheroes.
That's a good thing.
347
00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:23,903
[Zach] You guys ever been
to the Northwest?
348
00:14:23,905 --> 00:14:25,989
-[Jess and Mikey] No.
-Were you at the Seattle
conference a few years ago?
349
00:14:25,991 --> 00:14:27,866
[Mikey and Jess] No.
350
00:14:27,868 --> 00:14:29,350
And obviously
the Spokane Convention, no.
351
00:14:29,427 --> 00:14:31,202
-Yeah, we didn't go
to Spokane.
-[Zach] Okay.
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-[Zach] All of you, come on.
We can sit down.
-[Tori] Come on in.
353
00:14:33,874 --> 00:14:35,832
-[Zach] See the place.
-[Mikey] You want to see
his room?
354
00:14:36,751 --> 00:14:38,585
[Tori] Oh, you want wa-wa?
355
00:14:38,587 --> 00:14:41,129
[Zach] We recently took him
to Spokane.
356
00:14:41,164 --> 00:14:42,605
-[Mikey] Yeah.
-[Zach] And he's like...
357
00:14:42,607 --> 00:14:44,382
He's, like, starting to figure
it out a little bit.
358
00:14:44,459 --> 00:14:45,967
-You know, like?
-[Mikey] Yeah.
359
00:14:45,969 --> 00:14:48,094
We keep trying
to tell him that...
360
00:14:48,096 --> 00:14:49,596
Like, you're not going to be
like grandpa,
361
00:14:49,598 --> 00:14:51,114
-or...
-Yes.
362
00:14:51,116 --> 00:14:52,515
He's like, "Oh,
I'm going to be
tall, like..."
363
00:14:52,517 --> 00:14:54,058
-I'm like, "No."
-[Zach] Yeah.
364
00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:56,811
[Jess] I feel like I grew up
and I didn't even know...
365
00:14:56,888 --> 00:14:58,730
I don't remember being told.
366
00:14:58,806 --> 00:15:00,481
-[Zach] Yeah.
-You just do it.
367
00:15:00,483 --> 00:15:02,150
Yeah or it's like a gradual...
368
00:15:02,152 --> 00:15:04,110
I don't remember having
like a doorbell,
369
00:15:04,187 --> 00:15:05,069
-you know.
-[Jess] Yeah.
370
00:15:05,071 --> 00:15:06,237
It just became what it was.
371
00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:07,780
-[Tori] For what?
-Like recognizing
372
00:15:07,782 --> 00:15:09,532
-that you're different,
you're a dwarf.
-Oh, yes.
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[Tori] Lilah loved Michael.
374
00:15:23,506 --> 00:15:25,673
Lilah wants to be a part
of the boys
375
00:15:25,675 --> 00:15:27,800
-and, like, wants to do
what they are doing.
-Yes.
376
00:15:30,347 --> 00:15:32,680
-And she got excited about it.
-And she was with Jackson
all the time
377
00:15:32,682 --> 00:15:34,933
-and she's like,
"I want to do that."
-Yeah.
378
00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:38,394
[Michael screams] Maa!
379
00:15:42,025 --> 00:15:43,316
Can you go to Michael's
birthday party?
380
00:15:43,318 --> 00:15:44,500
You want to go
to Michael's birthday?
381
00:15:44,502 --> 00:15:45,735
Michael invited you
to his birthday?
382
00:15:45,737 --> 00:15:47,403
-Absolutely.
-It's a Batman party.
383
00:15:47,405 --> 00:15:49,530
-[Zach laughing]
-I didn't even know
he's having one.
384
00:15:49,532 --> 00:15:51,199
-...out.
-Yeah.
385
00:15:51,275 --> 00:15:52,408
Yeah, absolutely.
386
00:15:53,161 --> 00:15:55,370
[Mikey] You are invited 100%.
387
00:15:55,372 --> 00:15:57,956
[Zach] I was worried but onc
they got together
388
00:15:58,032 --> 00:16:00,625
and got along so quickly,
I was relieved.
389
00:16:00,702 --> 00:16:02,251
So you want to have
a Batman party?
390
00:16:02,253 --> 00:16:04,170
And you invited Jackson?
391
00:16:04,247 --> 00:16:05,755
Okay.
392
00:16:05,757 --> 00:16:07,382
[Zach] They just gel
very well.
393
00:16:07,384 --> 00:16:08,508
[screams]
394
00:16:10,053 --> 00:16:11,260
[Jess] Look at them.
395
00:16:17,143 --> 00:16:19,018
[Chris speaking]
396
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,355
[Amy] Does it not say in her
397
00:16:22,899 --> 00:16:24,148
Like how big it is?
398
00:16:24,818 --> 00:16:26,693
222 acres.
399
00:16:26,695 --> 00:16:28,194
-That's big.
-Yeah, that is kind of big.
400
00:16:28,196 --> 00:16:29,570
-Isn't it?
-It is.
401
00:16:29,572 --> 00:16:31,197
Because when you think
of the farm,
402
00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:34,659
where I lived and the 75 acres
where Matt lived,
403
00:16:34,736 --> 00:16:36,202
or he has it all now.
404
00:16:36,663 --> 00:16:38,496
Um, that's a 100.
405
00:16:38,498 --> 00:16:41,708
Well, we kind of need to talk
to him about pumpkin season.
406
00:16:41,784 --> 00:16:43,501
Whether you were gonna
be a part of it.
407
00:16:43,503 --> 00:16:46,921
Yeah. Before I commit to that
or figure that out...
408
00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:50,425
Um, I got to get
my head around it.
409
00:16:50,501 --> 00:16:52,468
Well, I have been thinking
about pumpkin season
410
00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:56,014
'cause I know it's coming
up here sooner than later
411
00:16:56,090 --> 00:16:59,642
and obviously, the north side
part of it is up for sale.
412
00:16:59,644 --> 00:17:01,853
So I don't know,
I just have to have
413
00:17:01,855 --> 00:17:05,106
a little bit more info as to
what does this year look like?
414
00:17:05,108 --> 00:17:06,524
What's changing?
415
00:17:06,526 --> 00:17:09,819
You know, what are the tour...
What is his gameplan?
416
00:17:09,821 --> 00:17:12,071
You know, he asked me
to do a tour
417
00:17:12,073 --> 00:17:13,781
that he had forgotten about
and stuff
418
00:17:13,783 --> 00:17:15,658
and I said, "Sure." You know,
"I'll go and do it."
419
00:17:15,702 --> 00:17:17,368
[Amy] We also heard from Mat
420
00:17:17,445 --> 00:17:19,746
that his dad had to go
in the hospital
421
00:17:19,822 --> 00:17:22,290
and he had a tour,
a private tour
422
00:17:22,292 --> 00:17:23,666
scheduled on the farm.
423
00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:26,461
So, you know, I definitely
said yes right away
424
00:17:26,463 --> 00:17:28,504
because, you know,
he's in Arizona
425
00:17:28,506 --> 00:17:30,131
attending a family matter.
426
00:17:30,208 --> 00:17:32,175
And, you know,
you just help out,
427
00:17:32,177 --> 00:17:34,343
regardless of what's going on.
428
00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:35,928
It's just what you do.
429
00:17:35,930 --> 00:17:38,473
But I tell you, I said "yes"
way too quick.
430
00:17:38,475 --> 00:17:40,933
-Hmm.
-Because I was like...
431
00:17:40,935 --> 00:17:42,852
-"Okay, what do I
talk about now?"
-Hmm.
432
00:17:44,022 --> 00:17:46,981
It's been quite some time
since I've done a tour.
433
00:17:47,058 --> 00:17:48,983
Ever since I've moved off
the farm,
434
00:17:48,985 --> 00:17:51,235
I kind of feel,
like, disconnected.
435
00:17:51,237 --> 00:17:53,905
Last year was my first time
doing the wagon tour,
436
00:17:53,907 --> 00:17:56,074
-first time I've volunteered.
-Ever participated.
437
00:17:56,076 --> 00:17:58,242
Yeah, participated in any
part of that.
438
00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:01,037
And definitely be open to
doing it again.
439
00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:03,063
Obviously this is our big
pumpkin area.
440
00:18:03,065 --> 00:18:06,000
-We've got several varieties
of pumpkins to choose from.
-[woman] Oh, oh!
441
00:18:06,002 --> 00:18:08,294
Is a pumpkin a fruit
or a vegetable?
442
00:18:09,547 --> 00:18:10,671
[woman laughs]
443
00:18:10,673 --> 00:18:12,298
Have you read the script?
444
00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:18,387
We just tweaked and critiqued
him a little bit but...
445
00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:20,598
-So harsh.
-I was not.
446
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,642
He might have had a little
rough start
447
00:18:22,644 --> 00:18:25,603
but he did fantastic
the rest of the time.
448
00:18:27,107 --> 00:18:30,108
Yeah, if Matt needs help
with tours, you know,
449
00:18:30,184 --> 00:18:31,484
depending on what the tourists
look like,
450
00:18:31,486 --> 00:18:34,153
I'd be happy to help out
but, um...
451
00:18:34,864 --> 00:18:36,781
Yeah, I'm not sure...
452
00:18:36,858 --> 00:18:40,493
Pumpkin season's lost
it's lure for me now.
453
00:18:40,495 --> 00:18:43,121
Half of it up for sale,
it's like...
454
00:18:43,123 --> 00:18:45,748
I... I guess I'm afraid
of being asked
455
00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:47,125
so many questions.
"What do you think?"
456
00:18:47,127 --> 00:18:49,836
"Oh, it's so sad that
that part of the farm..."
457
00:18:49,912 --> 00:18:51,671
"It's not pumpkin
season anymore"
458
00:18:51,747 --> 00:18:53,172
-You know, whatever people...
-Mm-hmm.
459
00:18:53,174 --> 00:18:55,550
...may think.
460
00:18:55,626 --> 00:18:57,135
[Amy] I think what makes
pumpkin season
461
00:18:57,137 --> 00:18:58,619
a little more unique
462
00:18:58,696 --> 00:19:02,140
is when there's some of
the family members involved
463
00:19:02,216 --> 00:19:05,268
but when you have
a rift in family,
464
00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:07,645
that doesn't always go away
right away.
465
00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:11,482
And so, when it's just another
pumpkin place,
466
00:19:11,517 --> 00:19:14,902
I just wonder how I could
fit in in the future.
467
00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:18,531
Regardless, I think you should
go and do your costume thing.
468
00:19:18,992 --> 00:19:20,575
Oh dear, oh dear.
469
00:19:20,577 --> 00:19:22,034
I think you're a big
part of it.
470
00:19:22,036 --> 00:19:24,453
-Oh dear, oh dear.
-I think you should be there.
471
00:19:24,455 --> 00:19:26,747
-I don't know.
-You know...
472
00:19:26,824 --> 00:19:29,792
[Chris] Well, if Amy is not
for working at pumpkin seaso
473
00:19:29,794 --> 00:19:31,961
I'd feel funny going there
without her.
474
00:19:31,963 --> 00:19:34,255
Um, I'm just doing it,
one, for the fun of it
475
00:19:34,257 --> 00:19:37,466
and two, something that
her and I can do together.
476
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:40,803
But wouldn't be near as much
fun if Amy wasn't there.
477
00:19:41,431 --> 00:19:42,889
You being there
is a bigger part
478
00:19:42,965 --> 00:19:45,057
of it then me doing tours.
479
00:19:48,897 --> 00:19:50,429
[Amy speaking]
480
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:53,941
[Zach] Yeah, the Witouses
are really positive people
481
00:19:53,943 --> 00:19:55,735
but they also have
been through a lot.
482
00:19:55,737 --> 00:19:58,404
Moments that are hard,
anniversaries, of course.
483
00:19:58,406 --> 00:20:01,657
-Like birthdays and stuff.
-The things you don't think of
before it happens.
484
00:20:16,216 --> 00:20:18,424
[Zach] Michael and Jackson
are playing great together.
485
00:20:18,501 --> 00:20:21,052
Yeah, I don't know. They just
read each other so well.
486
00:20:21,054 --> 00:20:22,845
It's nice when kids...
Forget the dwarfism.
487
00:20:22,889 --> 00:20:23,763
It's nice when kids
are on the same page.
488
00:20:23,765 --> 00:20:25,389
-[Jess] Yeah.
-Yeah.
489
00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:27,642
[Zach] Jackson is really
hitting it off with Michael
490
00:20:27,644 --> 00:20:30,561
who is Mikey and Jess'
only son.
491
00:20:30,638 --> 00:20:34,440
Um, it is awesome
when you have two, you know,
five, four-year-olds
492
00:20:34,567 --> 00:20:36,692
that get together,
that get along so well
493
00:20:36,694 --> 00:20:37,693
right off the bat.
494
00:20:41,115 --> 00:20:42,406
How are you guys doing?
495
00:20:43,451 --> 00:20:45,451
Uh, we're good, like...
496
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,455
You know, it's like
good for the most part.
497
00:20:49,532 --> 00:20:52,792
We have our resources,
our support that have
really helped us.
498
00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:55,711
-[Mikey] Losing [stutters]
a child, like it's...
-[Jessica] Losing ch-- yeah.
499
00:20:55,713 --> 00:21:00,341
There's mental, uh, grief
that everyone has
to go through.
500
00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:04,303
[Zach] Yeah, the Witous'
are really positive people.
501
00:21:04,305 --> 00:21:06,764
But they also have
been through a lot.
502
00:21:06,841 --> 00:21:10,518
Mikey and Jess
had two, um, daughters
503
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,020
that died very, very early.
504
00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:16,816
[Jessica] Two years ago,
we found out
we were pregnant again.
505
00:21:16,818 --> 00:21:19,610
And then, at 18 weeks,
we learned that
506
00:21:19,612 --> 00:21:23,614
there was a possibility
that the baby would have
double dominant dwarfism.
507
00:21:24,534 --> 00:21:26,158
We both have achondroplasia
508
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,995
So because we have
the same type of dwarfism,
509
00:21:28,997 --> 00:21:32,790
basically, it's kinda like
two dominant genes
fighting that,
510
00:21:32,867 --> 00:21:36,669
you know, one doesn't win.
And so their lungs
are under-developed,
511
00:21:36,671 --> 00:21:39,964
and there's some narrowing
of the, um, foramen magnum.
512
00:21:40,041 --> 00:21:41,190
Yeah, even more narrowing
513
00:21:41,192 --> 00:21:43,025
-of the spinal columns, like.
-Yeah.
514
00:21:43,027 --> 00:21:46,137
Basically, every complication
that could happen
with achondroplasia
515
00:21:46,139 --> 00:21:48,764
-is made... made...
-Like magnified, yeah.
516
00:21:48,766 --> 00:21:51,517
[Mikey] Typically,
with like, achondroplasia
and double dominancy,
517
00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:55,521
the children only last, like,
seconds to minutes,
maybe even hours.
518
00:21:58,109 --> 00:22:00,026
[Zach] I didn't realize, like,
519
00:22:05,992 --> 00:22:07,867
like, the stories
are starting to come out.
520
00:22:07,943 --> 00:22:11,454
It is. It's 25% chance
that it can happen.
521
00:22:11,456 --> 00:22:14,081
Every time. It's not like,
oh, you had it once,
522
00:22:14,083 --> 00:22:16,417
-so you're not gonna
have it again.
-[Tori] Right.
523
00:22:16,419 --> 00:22:19,086
-It's 25% every time.
-[Zach] With any...
any couple that's,
524
00:22:19,088 --> 00:22:22,089
-has the same type
of dwarfism.
-Same type, yeah.
525
00:22:22,091 --> 00:22:25,134
If there's two parents
with achondroplasia,
526
00:22:25,136 --> 00:22:28,888
there's a 50% chance
that your child will have
achondroplasia,
527
00:22:28,964 --> 00:22:32,266
there's a 25% chance
that your child will be
average height,
528
00:22:32,343 --> 00:22:35,603
and there's a 25% chance
that your child will be born
with double dominance.
529
00:22:36,647 --> 00:22:38,414
[Zach] Can't imagine what
they're going through, like
530
00:22:38,416 --> 00:22:41,525
going through the pregnancy,
going through all that
and then
531
00:22:41,527 --> 00:22:46,405
watching your baby, you know,
pass away. Um, can't imagine.
532
00:22:48,576 --> 00:22:51,994
It's more like
moments that are hard.
Anniversaries, of course,
533
00:22:51,996 --> 00:22:54,789
like birth dates
and stuff and um...
534
00:22:54,865 --> 00:22:57,124
-But... Yeah.
-Some things you don't
think of, like,
535
00:22:57,201 --> 00:22:58,292
before it happens.
536
00:22:59,128 --> 00:23:00,294
[Jessica] This is Margot Ann
537
00:23:00,296 --> 00:23:02,797
and this is
Bernadette Suzanne.
538
00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:05,341
Margot was with us
for two and a half months.
539
00:23:05,343 --> 00:23:07,443
-Which is very--
-She even came home with us.
540
00:23:07,445 --> 00:23:11,305
She came home with us,
so her last three weeks,
she was home with us, um...
541
00:23:11,307 --> 00:23:15,810
Bernadette Suzanne is
our third and she, um,
542
00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:18,312
she lived four days.
543
00:23:18,314 --> 00:23:20,481
So, but we were able to
take her home again.
544
00:23:20,558 --> 00:23:22,817
Everyone thinks
of the big moments,
but it's like...
545
00:23:22,819 --> 00:23:25,152
-[Jessica] It's a little...
-It's the little things. Like,
546
00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:27,738
oh, what would we be doing
547
00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:29,156
-if both girls--
-[Jessica] They were here.
548
00:23:29,158 --> 00:23:31,075
Or one of the girls
was here with us.
549
00:23:31,077 --> 00:23:33,202
And, like, I'm sure you guys
do the same thing.
550
00:23:33,204 --> 00:23:34,970
-Wh... Where would you be?
-[Jessica] Yeah.
551
00:23:34,972 --> 00:23:36,330
-[Mikey] Like, or what
would you be doing?
-[Jessica] Yeah.
552
00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:38,791
I mean, I don't know. [sighs]
553
00:23:38,793 --> 00:23:42,002
Credit God
and the hospital staff
for working with us
554
00:23:42,004 --> 00:23:44,588
and getting our girls
to come home.
555
00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:47,258
That's a miracle
in itself, you know.
556
00:23:47,260 --> 00:23:49,677
[Mikey] It was great
to have that moment.
557
00:23:49,753 --> 00:23:53,722
Um, and happy that Michael
got to meet his sisters.
558
00:23:53,724 --> 00:23:56,851
Nothing gives a reason
or makes it better but, um,
559
00:23:57,687 --> 00:23:59,937
we like to think
we have two saints in heaven
560
00:24:00,014 --> 00:24:01,730
that are watching out for us.
561
00:24:06,487 --> 00:24:09,280
[Tori] How's he been
with everything?
562
00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:10,865
-[Jessica] Pretty good, and--
-[Mikey] Yeah, he's...
563
00:24:10,867 --> 00:24:12,950
he's been good, he has...
he has his days where,
564
00:24:13,027 --> 00:24:15,911
like, he'll... he'll say
something that just, like,
565
00:24:15,913 --> 00:24:19,081
tugs at our heart strings,
like, "Oh, I wish
Bernie was here"
566
00:24:19,125 --> 00:24:20,541
or "I wish Margo was here",
but like,
567
00:24:20,618 --> 00:24:22,034
then like...
568
00:24:22,110 --> 00:24:23,919
-the next subject is like...
-He changes the subject.
569
00:24:23,954 --> 00:24:26,881
"Can we watch, like, uh, TV?
Can we turn on the TV?"
570
00:24:26,883 --> 00:24:31,010
-Are you guys... You'll...
You'll try again?
-[baby crying]
571
00:24:31,012 --> 00:24:33,345
-[Mikey] Yeah, we're--
-[Jessica] I mean,
that's the plan. I gotta...
572
00:24:33,347 --> 00:24:35,473
I still need
to do some healing,
some recovery.
573
00:24:35,475 --> 00:24:36,865
Yeah.
574
00:24:36,867 --> 00:24:39,977
Physically and emotionally
and mentally. But um,
575
00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:41,461
yeah, I mean, that's our plan
576
00:24:41,539 --> 00:24:45,399
is to grow our family.
So... we'll figure out a way.
577
00:24:45,476 --> 00:24:47,568
-[Zach] I think it's
super brave of them to...
-[Tori] Yeah.
578
00:24:47,645 --> 00:24:52,448
[Zach] ...even try
to have kids after
maybe at the first loss.
579
00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:56,619
People say, like [exhales]
you know, "Why do you
bring people into the world?"
580
00:24:56,704 --> 00:25:00,331
Like, they think it's not good
that we procreated
581
00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:05,211
and brought more dwarfs
into the world
to suffer, you know.
582
00:25:05,213 --> 00:25:07,296
But I totally
disagree with that.
583
00:25:08,132 --> 00:25:10,299
I think people
with disabilities
584
00:25:10,301 --> 00:25:13,427
have a right to procreate
and have family.
585
00:25:13,429 --> 00:25:15,513
You know, so.
586
00:25:15,589 --> 00:25:17,473
-[Jessica] How about
you guys, I mean?
-[Mikey] Yeah.
587
00:25:17,475 --> 00:25:20,518
-[baby crying]
-You know.
588
00:25:20,594 --> 00:25:22,394
-[Tori] Just as what happened
with us last year?
-[Jessica] Yeah.
589
00:25:22,396 --> 00:25:24,063
-[Mikey] Yeah.
-I mean, like,
590
00:25:24,139 --> 00:25:25,356
it's hard to, like,
sit and, like,
591
00:25:25,391 --> 00:25:26,506
talk to someone,
like, you know,
592
00:25:26,584 --> 00:25:28,359
you guys have
been through so much.
593
00:25:28,361 --> 00:25:31,111
-And it was like... It was
like a traumatic experience...
-[Jessica] Yeah.
594
00:25:31,113 --> 00:25:32,821
...for sure,
but I think that, like,
595
00:25:34,242 --> 00:25:36,425
I don't know.
596
00:25:36,427 --> 00:25:38,118
-[Jessica] Well, that's
the thing. Like, don't ever...
-[Mikey] We won't downplay
597
00:25:38,195 --> 00:25:39,261
-your feelings.
-[Tori] Right.
598
00:25:39,263 --> 00:25:41,038
-Compare because--
-A loss is a loss.
599
00:25:41,115 --> 00:25:43,023
-[Tori] Totally.
-[Jessica] Yeah,
your loss is your loss.
600
00:25:43,025 --> 00:25:45,834
-And it's big and it's major.
-[Tori] I think that like,
for... for me,
601
00:25:45,836 --> 00:25:47,920
what I think about everything
that happened was just
602
00:25:47,997 --> 00:25:49,380
-the way that it happened.
-[baby cooing]
603
00:25:49,382 --> 00:25:51,006
-[Jessica] Hmm.
-And like,
604
00:25:52,093 --> 00:25:55,719
you know, like, it was just--
it was really hard.
605
00:25:55,721 --> 00:26:00,724
But I mean, we were
so blessed to get Josiah.
606
00:26:00,726 --> 00:26:03,686
-I mean, like,
pretty quickly after.
-[Jessica] Yeah.
607
00:26:03,729 --> 00:26:05,980
Like it didn't take very long
for him to come along
608
00:26:06,056 --> 00:26:09,733
and so, I think that
that helped our healing a lot.
609
00:26:10,861 --> 00:26:14,113
It was hard for me to compare
610
00:26:14,907 --> 00:26:17,032
-with Jess, like,
'cause I... this...
-Yeah...
611
00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:20,035
What they went through
was so significant
612
00:26:20,037 --> 00:26:22,705
and like, it doesn't discount
what we went through.
613
00:26:22,707 --> 00:26:26,166
However, it was hard for me
to connect on that level.
614
00:26:26,168 --> 00:26:28,544
Because it was like,
what do I have to
complain about
615
00:26:28,546 --> 00:26:31,880
when we're sitting there
with three healthy babies
that...
616
00:26:31,882 --> 00:26:35,009
they should be sitting there
with three healthy babies.
617
00:26:35,085 --> 00:26:37,845
The fact that you guys
have been so strong
in your faith
618
00:26:37,921 --> 00:26:41,223
and the fact that
you've been able to, like,
go through this twice,
619
00:26:41,225 --> 00:26:43,100
-like, not just once.
-[Jessica] Yeah.
620
00:26:43,102 --> 00:26:47,313
But twice. The courage that
you guys have is unbelievable.
621
00:26:48,232 --> 00:26:50,107
You... You become grateful
for the things you do have
622
00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:52,151
rather than focusing
on the things you don't have.
623
00:26:52,153 --> 00:26:54,528
Makes you be that much
more appreciative
624
00:26:54,530 --> 00:26:59,658
of the fact that we have
Michael and that he's,
uh, fully healthy.
625
00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:01,827
-It's not an easy subject
to talk, like, you go over it.
-[Tori] It's not.
626
00:27:01,904 --> 00:27:03,329
But it happens to so many.
627
00:27:03,331 --> 00:27:04,830
[Tori] So many, yeah.
628
00:27:04,832 --> 00:27:07,291
And like, people
who haven't gone through it
629
00:27:07,293 --> 00:27:10,419
are afraid to talk to people
who have, like, about it.
630
00:27:10,421 --> 00:27:12,630
'Cause like, they think that
they're gonna make
people sad, but it's like,
631
00:27:12,632 --> 00:27:16,842
no, like, it's... it's a form
of therapy for parents
when they talk about it.
632
00:27:16,844 --> 00:27:20,054
It's been taboo for so long
to not talk about miscarriage
633
00:27:20,056 --> 00:27:22,431
and to not talk about
losing children.
634
00:27:22,433 --> 00:27:24,391
So I think that
when Mikey and Jess
635
00:27:24,393 --> 00:27:29,980
talk about losses, it makes
other people feel less alone.
636
00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:36,070
It could be a healing
and an encouraging thing fo
637
00:27:36,072 --> 00:27:38,405
them to see other couples
talking about it.
638
00:27:40,534 --> 00:27:41,825
Papa!
639
00:27:47,041 --> 00:27:48,123
[Tori] Coming up...
640
00:27:48,125 --> 00:27:48,874
[Zach] Are you ready?
641
00:27:48,876 --> 00:27:51,085
Set. Go.
642
00:27:51,161 --> 00:27:54,129
-[Mikey] Come on, bud, run.
-[all cheering]
643
00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:02,304
-[Tori] Okay.
-[Zach] All right,
let's go check it out.
644
00:28:02,306 --> 00:28:03,639
[baby cooing]
645
00:28:03,683 --> 00:28:05,099
[woman cheers]
646
00:28:05,101 --> 00:28:06,767
[Zach] Come on, onward.
647
00:28:06,769 --> 00:28:09,812
[kid talking]
648
00:28:09,814 --> 00:28:13,899
The Witous' have
never been to Oregon
or the Northwest, really.
649
00:28:13,901 --> 00:28:17,486
Um, so it's exciting
to bring them to, you know,
the Oregon beach.
650
00:28:17,488 --> 00:28:19,238
And yeah, show them
a little bit
651
00:28:19,314 --> 00:28:21,031
of our neck of the woods.
652
00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:23,200
Look what Jackson's doing.
653
00:28:25,371 --> 00:28:27,121
-[Mikey laughs]
-Oh, my God.
654
00:28:30,793 --> 00:28:32,626
-Yay!
-[Tori exclaiming]
655
00:28:34,088 --> 00:28:35,629
[Zach] Whoa, good job, bud.
656
00:28:35,706 --> 00:28:37,881
-Wa-wa.
-[gasps]
657
00:28:37,916 --> 00:28:39,967
Was that your
favorite thing
at the beach?
658
00:28:39,969 --> 00:28:42,344
-Wa-wa.
-It was the wa-wa?
659
00:28:42,346 --> 00:28:43,554
What is your favorite?
660
00:28:46,767 --> 00:28:48,225
[cheering]
661
00:28:49,979 --> 00:28:52,855
[Zach] This age, this is like
the last years our kids
662
00:28:52,898 --> 00:28:54,898
before they become
aware of who they are.
663
00:28:55,526 --> 00:28:57,109
There's like an ignorance.
664
00:28:57,186 --> 00:29:00,571
-Not an ignorance,
there's a child--
-[both] Innocence.
665
00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:04,199
It is just a thought I had
when I watched them
playing, and like,
666
00:29:04,243 --> 00:29:06,076
the older they get,
they're gonna start
667
00:29:06,153 --> 00:29:08,203
realizing that the world maybe
looks at them differently
668
00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:09,496
or that they are different.
669
00:29:10,207 --> 00:29:11,790
He's unaware of who he is.
670
00:29:11,792 --> 00:29:14,626
And next summer
could be different.
671
00:29:14,754 --> 00:29:17,254
And I think it's our job
to protect their innocence
672
00:29:17,256 --> 00:29:19,840
-as long as we possibly can.
-Yeah.
673
00:29:21,051 --> 00:29:24,011
I was telling Mikey how
it's their last years, like,
674
00:29:24,013 --> 00:29:26,889
they can run down the beach
and not think about, like,
675
00:29:26,891 --> 00:29:28,807
-who's looking at me,
who's staring, who's...
-Yeah.
676
00:29:28,884 --> 00:29:31,059
...making fun of my
waddle feet, you know.
677
00:29:31,103 --> 00:29:32,995
I know.
678
00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:36,565
And you want to, like...
You want them to, like,
keep that forever.
679
00:29:36,901 --> 00:29:39,735
Yeah, okay.
680
00:29:39,737 --> 00:29:41,987
The confidence to just,
like, do whatever...
681
00:29:41,989 --> 00:29:43,405
-[Zach] Yes.
-Again, like, you know,
682
00:29:43,407 --> 00:29:44,740
"I can do this too."
683
00:29:44,742 --> 00:29:47,367
There's "What do you mean
I can't do this?"
684
00:29:47,369 --> 00:29:48,994
[Zach] They're both
the tallest, the fastest,
the smartest,
685
00:29:48,996 --> 00:29:50,621
the coolest kids in the room.
686
00:29:50,623 --> 00:29:52,347
-And they know it,
you know what I'm saying?
-[Jessica] Yeah.
687
00:29:52,349 --> 00:29:55,417
But then it's gonna like,
that, like, when
that hits them...
688
00:29:55,461 --> 00:29:57,536
Yeah, you go from the fastest
to the slowest.
689
00:29:57,538 --> 00:30:01,048
[Zach] Well, and there's
another additional challenge
that they're gonna face.
690
00:30:01,592 --> 00:30:03,258
I think it hit me earlier.
691
00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:04,876
I don't think
I had the confidence.
692
00:30:04,878 --> 00:30:07,971
I think already had, like,
a depreciatingness
about myself.
693
00:30:07,973 --> 00:30:11,600
Jackson, I just think
he has stronger confidence
in himself
694
00:30:11,644 --> 00:30:14,853
that, uh, might just burst
his bubble even more. Or...
695
00:30:14,855 --> 00:30:17,064
I've also seen dwarves
that never lose it.
696
00:30:17,066 --> 00:30:19,691
Like, they're still,
"I'm the fastest
one in the room."
697
00:30:19,693 --> 00:30:21,735
I hope he doesn't lose it.
698
00:30:21,737 --> 00:30:24,029
But yeah, like,
do you remember
699
00:30:24,031 --> 00:30:25,805
-noticing the difference?
-[Zach] Oh, yeah.
700
00:30:25,807 --> 00:30:28,116
-It's during the PE classes--
-It was... I was
just gonna say
701
00:30:28,118 --> 00:30:30,202
I noticed it when
I was playing soccer
702
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,163
that the kids were bigger.
And I was like, like I knew
I was a little person
703
00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:34,647
but like...
704
00:30:34,649 --> 00:30:36,667
I liked playing goalie,
and then, like, eventually,
705
00:30:36,669 --> 00:30:38,252
the goals were just the cones
706
00:30:38,254 --> 00:30:40,170
-and then once we
went to, like, goals...
-Yeah.
707
00:30:40,172 --> 00:30:42,798
-[Zach] Like, I was just
ushered out, you know.
-[Jessica] Yeah.
708
00:30:42,842 --> 00:30:45,008
-If we were,
like, winning...
-Yeah.
709
00:30:45,085 --> 00:30:47,636
...they'd, like, let me score
the goal and I was like,
"Thanks for the--"
710
00:30:47,638 --> 00:30:49,513
-Oh, I hated that.
I hated that.
-Thank you.
711
00:30:49,515 --> 00:30:50,681
-[Mikey] Thanks
for the handout.
-Whatever...
712
00:30:50,683 --> 00:30:53,225
Yeah, like, thanks
for the handout, but...
713
00:30:53,686 --> 00:30:55,577
That's what I always
try to, like, push, like,
714
00:30:55,579 --> 00:30:58,146
I've tried parents who're,
like, asking, "Oh, what...
what can they do?"
715
00:30:58,190 --> 00:31:00,065
-Anything. Just let them
do anything.
-[Zach] Yeah.
716
00:31:01,235 --> 00:31:03,443
So the base thing
I always, like, try to
717
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,655
tell every child parents
that have a child
with dwarfism is, like,
718
00:31:06,657 --> 00:31:09,491
find a way to give them
the experience
of doing the things
719
00:31:09,493 --> 00:31:11,785
that they want and that they
seek enjoyment in.
720
00:31:11,787 --> 00:31:14,413
Uh, don't shelter them
from society.
721
00:31:14,489 --> 00:31:17,332
Let them be in society,
let them know what
society is like
722
00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:19,209
and how it will treat them,
723
00:31:19,211 --> 00:31:21,962
so that they're ready for it
when they become
an adult on their own.
724
00:31:23,173 --> 00:31:25,299
But until then,
725
00:31:25,301 --> 00:31:27,342
let's give them
a good life and...
726
00:31:27,344 --> 00:31:29,428
we don't want them
to grow up too fast.
727
00:31:31,307 --> 00:31:35,517
I don't think there's one way
to prepare your kids to,
728
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:39,313
you know, take on the world
that thinks they're different.
729
00:31:39,315 --> 00:31:42,733
Just instilling confidence
and resilience in them,
730
00:31:42,735 --> 00:31:46,612
when challenges come up,
will definitely address them
you know.
731
00:31:49,199 --> 00:31:51,742
-[Tori] Who's more fast?
-[boy] Me.
732
00:31:51,818 --> 00:31:53,243
Do you guys wanna race?
733
00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:54,494
-[Zach] Jackson, Michael.
-[boy] Yeah.
734
00:31:54,529 --> 00:31:55,537
Let's do it.
735
00:31:55,539 --> 00:31:57,497
[boys exclaiming]
736
00:31:57,499 --> 00:31:59,750
-Here, grab like the other...
-I'm gonna grab the hoe.
737
00:31:59,752 --> 00:32:01,585
-[Zach] Jackson wants to rac
-[Tori] He's like,
I wanna race!
738
00:32:01,587 --> 00:32:03,069
-[Zach] Jackson--
-[Tori] He has testosterone
739
00:32:03,071 --> 00:32:04,671
-just raging through his bod
-[Zach] Yeah.
740
00:32:04,673 --> 00:32:06,498
But that's not just
with Michael.
741
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:08,091
-That's with anyone
who comes in.
-No, that's with all the boys.
742
00:32:08,093 --> 00:32:10,928
That's like,
any boy who comes in,
he thinks he's faster.
743
00:32:12,139 --> 00:32:13,805
Jackson, Michael, come here.
744
00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:17,659
[woman giggles softly]
745
00:32:17,661 --> 00:32:19,227
-[Mikey] You guys--
You guys are gonna have fun.
-[Zach] Okay...
746
00:32:19,271 --> 00:32:20,228
Michael, you ready?
747
00:32:20,856 --> 00:32:21,813
Set!
748
00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:23,815
Hey... Ready?
749
00:32:24,234 --> 00:32:25,317
Set! Go!
750
00:32:25,394 --> 00:32:26,443
-Go!
-Go!
751
00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:28,654
[dramatic music playing]
752
00:32:38,999 --> 00:32:40,999
[music intensifies and stops]
753
00:32:44,505 --> 00:32:45,837
[Zach chuckling]
That was pretty even.
754
00:32:45,914 --> 00:32:46,797
[Mikey] Yeah.
755
00:32:47,549 --> 00:32:48,715
[Zach] Who was faster?
756
00:32:50,928 --> 00:32:52,511
Are you sure you were faster?
757
00:32:55,015 --> 00:32:56,056
Give him high-five.
758
00:32:56,558 --> 00:32:58,684
Now Zach and Mikey!
759
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,268
[Zach] When Tori said,
Mikey and Zach race,
760
00:33:00,270 --> 00:33:01,627
I was like, "Oh, heck yeah.
761
00:33:01,629 --> 00:33:03,730
No, I was totally into it.
I'm super competitive.
762
00:33:04,108 --> 00:33:04,982
Let's go.
763
00:33:05,058 --> 00:33:07,025
[upbeat music playing]
764
00:33:10,739 --> 00:33:14,574
-[women cheering]
-[men chuckling]
765
00:33:14,576 --> 00:33:16,618
[Mikey] I could've
knocked you down.
766
00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:17,911
Did you pull anything?
767
00:33:17,988 --> 00:33:19,705
Yeah, but what was that?
Who won?
768
00:33:19,707 --> 00:33:21,707
-I don't know.
-[all chuckle]
769
00:33:23,085 --> 00:33:24,126
Who do you think won?
770
00:33:25,838 --> 00:33:27,004
Argh!
771
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,380
-Probably was.
-That's a good answer.
772
00:33:28,457 --> 00:33:29,381
I'll take a tie! [chuckles]
773
00:33:29,383 --> 00:33:30,882
You're both winners.
774
00:33:30,959 --> 00:33:32,718
[Tori] You're both
winners in our hearts.
775
00:33:33,804 --> 00:33:35,929
[Zach] Best part about
the Witous' visit was
776
00:33:35,931 --> 00:33:37,764
-the beach day
was a lot of fun.
-Mm-hmm.
777
00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:40,517
Catchin' up with Mikey
and Jess was a lot of fun too.
778
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,228
-[Tori] The kids rallying.
-[Zach] The most was just
watching Michael and Jackso
779
00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:45,480
-rally and...
-And he did an awesome job.
780
00:33:45,482 --> 00:33:47,774
-I think that he was
a great friend to Michael.
-Yeah.
781
00:33:47,776 --> 00:33:50,318
Lilah, smile! Say cheese!
782
00:33:53,741 --> 00:33:54,740
[narrator] Coming up...
783
00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:57,159
[whistles]
784
00:33:57,161 --> 00:33:59,077
Well, you know,
one of the things
my dad said was,
785
00:33:59,154 --> 00:34:01,872
"I just want everybody
in the family to get along."
786
00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:06,001
Those were powerful words,
so I got a lot of work to do.
787
00:34:06,003 --> 00:34:07,753
Zach and Tori said
they needed space,
788
00:34:07,829 --> 00:34:10,297
but I'm gonna
try to work constantly on
789
00:34:10,299 --> 00:34:12,424
making sure that
the family gets along.
790
00:34:16,972 --> 00:34:17,445
[serene instrumental
music playing]
791
00:34:40,162 --> 00:34:41,561
[whistles]
792
00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:47,793
[Matt] Caryn and I
were down in Arizona,
793
00:34:47,795 --> 00:34:50,253
um, 'cause my dad was getting
more and more ill.
794
00:34:50,255 --> 00:34:56,218
And, um, after puttin' up
a very big fight,
for several weeks,
795
00:34:56,220 --> 00:35:00,305
uh, he finally succumbed
to his lung issues.
796
00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:04,559
Um... And he
passed away peacefully.
797
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:06,103
[sniffles]
798
00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:12,692
I'm just glad
we got down there
when we did.
799
00:35:12,694 --> 00:35:14,820
I thought he was gonna
[chuckles] walk out of it.
800
00:35:15,739 --> 00:35:18,698
And then there was a point,
when, like, "Uh-oh!"
801
00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:21,785
Yeah, it's...
a chance he might not.
802
00:35:21,862 --> 00:35:25,163
And then...
And then the next day
it would be like...
803
00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:28,458
[stutters] You know,
going good.
804
00:35:29,169 --> 00:35:30,794
Yeah,
the roller-coaster of it.
805
00:35:31,922 --> 00:35:33,004
[sighs softly]
806
00:35:35,551 --> 00:35:37,509
Very nice,
that all of you were...
807
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:41,972
Kids... flew there
to say their goodbyes.
808
00:35:42,048 --> 00:35:43,473
That meant a lot to me,
809
00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:45,142
and I'm sure
it meant a lot to him.
810
00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:52,232
Towards the end when we kne
things looked more dire. I..
811
00:35:52,309 --> 00:35:55,193
uh... notified everybody.
All the kids.
812
00:35:56,488 --> 00:36:00,532
And, um... they... um...
813
00:36:03,453 --> 00:36:04,828
Yeah, they all came in.
814
00:36:06,165 --> 00:36:07,330
They...
815
00:36:08,417 --> 00:36:10,792
simply all dropped everything.
816
00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:13,920
When it mattered most,
we can all
817
00:36:13,922 --> 00:36:16,089
not get along for this, that,
or the other thing,
818
00:36:16,091 --> 00:36:17,299
But when the... when the
819
00:36:17,801 --> 00:36:19,926
crap hit the fan,
820
00:36:19,928 --> 00:36:24,306
within hours,
they were... in my dad's...
by my dad's side.
821
00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:27,559
A... And all of them
were able to be there.
822
00:36:27,636 --> 00:36:29,352
[gulping]
823
00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:33,064
And then, you know, Jeremy,
Zachary, Molly, Jacob,
and then...
824
00:36:33,141 --> 00:36:36,735
You know, 'course my mom--
mother was there and um...
825
00:36:36,737 --> 00:36:39,446
So, um, it was...
826
00:36:39,448 --> 00:36:41,865
You know, we were there
by his side.
827
00:36:44,203 --> 00:36:46,411
[choking up]
828
00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:51,917
[sniffles softly]
829
00:36:55,714 --> 00:36:58,298
Oh, I'm sorry.
I know this is hard for you.
830
00:37:01,303 --> 00:37:03,470
I just figured that
they were gonna...
831
00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:05,847
You know, we were gonna
get more time with them
down there... I mean,
832
00:37:05,891 --> 00:37:09,851
they just barely
got settled in Arizona.
833
00:37:09,853 --> 00:37:13,605
My parents decided to
seek warmer ground
834
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,139
so they moved down to Arizona,
835
00:37:15,216 --> 00:37:18,526
and they happened to land
about a mile and a half--
836
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:21,321
two miles maybe,
from Caryn's parents.
837
00:37:21,323 --> 00:37:23,823
Caryn's parents helped them
acclimate to the-- to the ar
838
00:37:23,825 --> 00:37:25,992
and get to know people.
839
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:29,204
I was lookin' forward to,
you know, all the time
we were gonna be able
840
00:37:29,248 --> 00:37:30,538
to spend with them down there.
841
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:33,208
And, um... it just kind of...
842
00:37:34,086 --> 00:37:35,585
You know,
you feel a little bit,
843
00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:38,046
you feel a little bit robbed.
844
00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:39,831
Yeah, we took 'em
to the movies, remember?
845
00:37:39,833 --> 00:37:42,467
-[Matt] Yeah, we took 'em
to the movies. Yeah.
-[Caryn chuckles]
846
00:37:42,469 --> 00:37:45,637
-[Matt] That was good. Yeah.
-That was adorable,
watchin' them holdin' hands.
847
00:37:46,473 --> 00:37:49,057
[melancholy music playing]
848
00:37:49,101 --> 00:37:50,684
Boy, he sure loved my mother.
849
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,560
[Caryn] Mm-hmm.
850
00:37:52,562 --> 00:37:56,064
You know that... She's strong,
but you know, she's...
851
00:37:56,066 --> 00:37:58,942
Definitely havin' to
re-figure out what she can do
852
00:37:58,944 --> 00:38:00,694
and what she can't do and...
853
00:38:01,697 --> 00:38:03,113
-[sighing] Yeah.
-Um...
854
00:38:03,865 --> 00:38:05,824
My mother is doing good,
855
00:38:05,826 --> 00:38:07,784
but she also
doesn't have him there
856
00:38:07,786 --> 00:38:09,119
as a safety net.
857
00:38:09,913 --> 00:38:11,830
He doted on my mom,
and one of his...
858
00:38:11,906 --> 00:38:15,667
one of his last words
to me was,
859
00:38:15,669 --> 00:38:18,295
"You know,
I really spoiled your mom.
860
00:38:18,297 --> 00:38:20,672
And so, now,
I really need to look...
861
00:38:20,674 --> 00:38:21,873
look to you to...
862
00:38:21,875 --> 00:38:24,634
look to me
to help take care of her
863
00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:28,722
and make sure she, you know,
lives a comfortable,
happy life." So um...
864
00:38:28,798 --> 00:38:31,308
And I told him I had...
would have that under control.
865
00:38:32,477 --> 00:38:34,227
[Caryn] I loved your dad.
He was a great guy.
866
00:38:34,229 --> 00:38:38,273
He was very... positive and...
867
00:38:38,317 --> 00:38:39,899
[Matt] Mm-hmm.
868
00:38:39,976 --> 00:38:42,944
Um... He's gonna be missed,
for sure.
869
00:38:42,946 --> 00:38:44,321
-[sniffles]
-[Matt] Mm-hmm.
870
00:38:44,397 --> 00:38:47,991
He lived life large, you know,
no doubt about that.
871
00:38:47,993 --> 00:38:51,494
My dad was sort of a...
larger than life character,
872
00:38:51,496 --> 00:38:55,040
and, um, my dad
had a pretty good
sense of humor,
873
00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:57,417
and, you know, he gave me
a hard time sometimes.
874
00:38:57,419 --> 00:39:00,295
My dad had no fear
to say what was on his mind,
875
00:39:00,297 --> 00:39:01,796
and... he'd
tell it like it is.
876
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,925
You're... You're
buildin' a house for whom?
877
00:39:05,927 --> 00:39:07,969
-For these grandbabies
that we're talkin' about.
-You guys gonna get married?
878
00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:09,596
-What's the deal here?
-[chuckling]
879
00:39:09,598 --> 00:39:13,141
-How can you have a home
without a wife?
-[chuckles]
880
00:39:13,143 --> 00:39:16,269
He had a big person...
"I love people."
881
00:39:16,271 --> 00:39:18,980
He never met a person
that he didn't, you know,
882
00:39:18,982 --> 00:39:21,775
wanna visit with
and learn about.
883
00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:24,819
-Great to see you, Papa.
Thanks for drivin' up.
-[laughing with joy]
884
00:39:24,821 --> 00:39:26,696
-Wanna say, "Hi!"?
-Lilah, good to see...
885
00:39:26,698 --> 00:39:27,864
-[softly] Hey! Hey!
-[Tori] Is he...
886
00:39:27,941 --> 00:39:28,940
[woman] Lilah Ray!
887
00:39:28,942 --> 00:39:31,159
Hey! Not too many
guys to say I...
888
00:39:31,161 --> 00:39:33,912
I've snuggled with
my great grandpa.
889
00:39:33,914 --> 00:39:35,997
Okay! Here we come! Oh!
890
00:39:36,958 --> 00:39:39,542
[all laughing]
891
00:39:39,544 --> 00:39:42,170
He led a really good life.
892
00:39:42,214 --> 00:39:44,381
And... Uh, he made
a big impact
893
00:39:44,383 --> 00:39:46,591
on a lot of people,
so it was um...
894
00:39:47,052 --> 00:39:48,676
But it's never easy.
895
00:39:48,678 --> 00:39:51,346
It's always kinda hard
to say goodbye to somebody,
896
00:39:51,390 --> 00:39:54,224
here on Earth,
but, um, I think,
897
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:57,685
you know, we can...
rest assured that he's
898
00:39:57,687 --> 00:39:59,521
um... in a better place.
899
00:39:59,523 --> 00:40:01,648
So I'm comforted by that.
900
00:40:03,568 --> 00:40:05,235
I don't know
if I told you this, but...
901
00:40:05,237 --> 00:40:07,695
couple of days
before he passed,
he made some
902
00:40:09,241 --> 00:40:10,798
private comments to me.
903
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,619
He wanted everybody to...
everybody to love each other.
904
00:40:15,831 --> 00:40:19,666
One of the things my dad said
in his final hours or days,
905
00:40:19,742 --> 00:40:22,168
was, "I just want everybody
in the family to get along."
906
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:24,462
You know,
and I want the same thing.
907
00:40:24,464 --> 00:40:27,215
And it's not just me and them.
It's everybody.
908
00:40:27,259 --> 00:40:29,926
So, all you can do is
make sure that
909
00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:33,721
you don't bring
any additional negativity
to the table.
910
00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:37,809
Sometimes things just
take time, you know, and...
911
00:40:37,811 --> 00:40:39,519
I'm being respectful
of the fact that
912
00:40:39,521 --> 00:40:41,521
Zach and Tori
said they needed space,
913
00:40:41,523 --> 00:40:43,690
but I'm gonna try
to work constantly
914
00:40:43,692 --> 00:40:46,025
on making sure that
the family gets along.
915
00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:50,321
He always wanted everybody
to get along.
916
00:40:50,323 --> 00:40:54,701
Those were powerful words that
I have embedded in my head.
917
00:40:54,703 --> 00:40:57,036
So, I got a lot of work to do.
918
00:40:57,706 --> 00:41:01,291
[somber instrumental
music playing]
919
00:41:08,008 --> 00:41:10,008
-[upbeat music playing]
-[narrator] Next on
Little People, Big World...
920
00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:11,676
[Chris] We are
turning the big six-o.
921
00:41:11,753 --> 00:41:13,252
I know, the big 6-0.
922
00:41:13,329 --> 00:41:16,473
So, are we on agreement of
doing a... little celebration.
923
00:41:16,549 --> 00:41:18,433
Yeah, I think we said
we were gonna do that.
924
00:41:18,435 --> 00:41:20,384
-Yeah.
-Oh, okay.
925
00:41:20,386 --> 00:41:23,021
I've told Chris that,
"Yeah, sure. We can have
a joint birthday party."
926
00:41:23,023 --> 00:41:25,273
What Chris doesn't know
is that I'm working on
927
00:41:25,275 --> 00:41:28,485
a surprise birthday party
that's just for him.
928
00:41:28,487 --> 00:41:29,652
It's nerve-wracking,
929
00:41:29,729 --> 00:41:31,821
I find anxiety and just...
930
00:41:31,823 --> 00:41:32,864
casually find out...
931
00:41:32,866 --> 00:41:34,215
Does have a clue?
932
00:41:34,217 --> 00:41:36,075
So, I' really gonna
have to work hard
933
00:41:36,077 --> 00:41:37,911
to be able to pull this off.
934
00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:42,832
Jackson! You got
your very own bridge?
935
00:41:42,909 --> 00:41:46,628
Feeling reflective
on my dad passing away.
936
00:41:46,671 --> 00:41:48,129
And with all the kids,
937
00:41:48,173 --> 00:41:49,964
I'm re-doubling my efforts
938
00:41:49,966 --> 00:41:52,842
to check in on 'em all
as often as possible.
939
00:41:52,919 --> 00:41:55,178
Look at that little Josiah.
940
00:41:55,255 --> 00:41:57,805
We want him to be...
Have a relationship with
his grandkids and all that,
941
00:41:57,807 --> 00:42:00,433
but we wish things didn't go
the way they did.
942
00:42:00,510 --> 00:42:03,645
I'm so glad I got to come up
and see your farm.
943
00:42:03,647 --> 00:42:04,979
[Zach] Sometimes,
things can be awkward
944
00:42:05,023 --> 00:42:06,439
but that's what's
to be expected
945
00:42:06,516 --> 00:42:07,899
with where
our relationship's at.
946
00:42:14,449 --> 00:42:16,032
-[indistinct chatter]
-Hey, guys! They're here!
947
00:42:16,109 --> 00:42:17,825
-[woman] They're pulling in...
-They're here, you guys!
948
00:42:17,827 --> 00:42:19,661
-Quiet! [shushes]
-[indistinct chatter]
949
00:42:19,704 --> 00:42:21,246
Walkin' up to the venue,
950
00:42:21,322 --> 00:42:23,665
I... I mean,
I really got, like, nervous.
951
00:42:23,708 --> 00:42:26,167
[chuckling] I have not
pulled this off yet,
952
00:42:26,169 --> 00:42:28,086
until I see
the look on his face
953
00:42:28,088 --> 00:42:30,296
and is he actually surprised?