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The following is an interpretation
of events based on..

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Baniszewski v. The State of Indiana, 1966.

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All testimonies comes
from court transcripts.

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I used to love the carnival.

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Daddy worked all the fairs
selling pretzel’s...

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and candy apple.

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Always looking for something better.

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Sometimes mama would follow him...

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sometimes he even take us.

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It was always a new adventure...

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with a whole new family,
every time.

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I figured Jennie and me, were...

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the luckiest girls in the world.
with a life like that.

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My favorite was the merry-go-round...

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Maybe I was a little
old for it, but...

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all those other rides
they scared me.

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The merry-go-round, just goes
round and round, and up and down.

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It don't go anywhere,
but I always felt save.

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That's me on the left.

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Sylvia.

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And that's my story.

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I'm a Prostitute and proud of it.

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Would you please state your name.

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Lester Likens.

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Are you married to Betty Likens?

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Yes.

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Did you and your wife ever separate?

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Yes.

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What period of time did that occur?

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The last week in June 1965.

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She was at Euclid street,
and I was in Lebanon, Indiana.

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Where were the children?

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Jennie Faye and Silvia Marie
was with her.

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Do you think,
we'll make new friends?

35
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Sure we will.

36
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Well, maybe there'll be
some cute boys this time.

37
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They're supposed to be cute.

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Come on girls, you don't
wanna be late now for church.

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Hey!

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Daddy?

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- Hey, Jennie.
- What're you doing here?

42
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Well, I missed you girls.

43
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Hi Betty, can I talk
to for a minute?

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You know, I've been talking
to a Horst and he says...

45
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that we could maybe play our own
band at the state-fair this year.

46
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Then maybe we could make
enough money to go on tour.

47
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I told Lester, that I
can't do it anymore...

48
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not with the girls.

49
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Maybe my mother will take them.

50
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I can't move them up there again.

51
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They haven't even had a chance
to make friends down here yet.

52
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Betty, maybe we wouldn't fight
as much, without the kids.

53
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Mama?

54
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You two, go on ahead and
catch the church bus home.

55
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I've gotta settle things
with your father.

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See what love the
father has given us...

57
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and we are called children of god.

58
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And so we are!

59
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But how does a child,
come on to his father?

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How does the father,
come on to the child?

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Christ said: I am the way.
The truth, the live and love.

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Come on to the father, but by me.

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Our families,
our fathers, our mothers.

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It is only through Christ,
that we find our father.

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And it's only through Christ,
that we find each other.

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Oh, that's a beautiful dress, Hope.

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Oh, thank you, Gertrude.

68
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And huh... I'm feeling much
better, with my new medicine...

69
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and... you know anybody, that
needs ironing to be done...

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I'd appreciate the work.

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I'll do that.

72
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Thank you.

73
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What happened to your leg?

74
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That's not nice, Shirley!

75
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That's alright, she's used to it.

76
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- So what is it?
- Polio.

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Polio?

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Does that hurt?

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Our mama is a sick too.

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All right girls!

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We gotta go.

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Can they come with us?

83
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You wanna come? We've got
some friends coming over...

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and you can meet our older sister.

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- Let's do.
- Sure!

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Guess who got stuck with
an extra shift at work?

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- Did you get paid?
- Mm'hm.

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Got a little extra for dinner.

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Here, take the baby.

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Where'd they come from?

91
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What's this?

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We invited them to stay and play.

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We'll be quiet.

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All right, make sure of it.

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I really like this song.

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What's your dad do?

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He is cop, they are divorced.

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Do you miss him any?

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Nah, I just miss his money.

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- But, Paula!
- Well, it's true.

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Maybe, if he's more
regular with his support...

102
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Mom wouldn't be so sick...

103
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and I wouldn't have to work so hard.

104
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Little Kenny's got a different daddy.

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- Who's little Kenny?
- The baby.

106
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But we ain't supposed
to talk about that.

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Auh!

108
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Finished!

109
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Wow! You should do this for a living.

110
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Yeah, if she was old enough.

111
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You want me to do yours?

112
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Oh, no, thanks.

113
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Yeah, she's the pretty one.

114
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Yeah, she's got nice hair.

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- I'm pretty too.
- The hell you are!

116
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Oh, let me see that brush.

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I tell you what?
Let's go get a coke.

118
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My boyfriend works over at the
liquor store, get him to buy a couple.

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Sure.

120
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You girls behave!

121
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We're goin' to groceries.

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Tell Andy, he owes me
for little Kenny!

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And don't be waistin'
time on that bag-boy.

124
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He ain't a bag-boy, Mama!

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Sort of wasted space.

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- She don't like my boyfriend.
- Yeah, I can see that.

127
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Hey, Johnny, quit it!

128
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Sorry, Mrs. Doyle.

129
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Hey!

130
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You weren't at church today.

131
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Coy and I headin' over there now.

132
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Yeah, you better be.

133
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Let's get outta here.

134
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That's my sister Stephanie,
she's big help around the house...

135
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when she ain't wasting time
with her boyfriend Coy.

136
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Oh, God.

137
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Hey, Paula.

138
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Mama was asking you for her money.

139
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I bet she was.

140
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Who's your friend?

141
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Sylvia, but she don't talk to trash.

142
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Excuse me.

143
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That's my mama's ex boyfriend.

144
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He's only 6 years older than me.

145
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Just like her mom.

146
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That's him.

147
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That's my Bradley.

148
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He's real cute.

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We got both to be real
careful about it.

150
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Why?

151
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Because he's married.

152
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I'm not even shittin' you, no!

153
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Paula!

154
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Don't tell me you never
had a boyfriend.

155
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Ah, well, there was this guy
in California, but...

156
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I guess it was nothing.

157
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Well, at least you did
more than just kiss, huh?

158
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Well, aren't you just so damn pure.

159
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Oh, come on.

160
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Let's go!

161
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<i>This is Pleiku,
250 miles north of Saigon.</i>

162
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<i>The Air Force Base,
that was threatened...</i>

163
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<i>by Communist Guerillas...</i>

164
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Marie!

165
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I need you to feed little Kenny.

166
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If I don't get this ironing to
Mrs. Duke by four, I wont get a tip.

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- We're all out of milk.
- Well, then get some.

168
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They wont give us no more
credit at the store.

169
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They will, if you take the baby.

170
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Hello!

171
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Oh, hi, I'm sorry.

172
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Huh, somebody said they
saw my girls here.

173
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You got no family here in Indy?

174
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Well, not that I could leave'm with.

175
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'Cause of them or you?

176
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A little of both.

177
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Hi, Mrs. Baniszewski,
is Shirley and Marie here?

178
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Upstairs.

179
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Shut the door!

180
00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,134
Looks like, you've got kids running
in and outta here, all day long.

181
00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:42,350
Why don't you leave Sylvia
and Jenny, here with me?

182
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No, I... I couldn't do that.

183
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I got six kids, two more
wont make a difference.

184
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Yeah, I guess that's true.

185
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<i>20 dollars a week and
you don't have to worry.</i>

186
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You'd be helping me out too.

187
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I could talk to
my wife about it.

188
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Something to consider.

189
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Ah-ha...

190
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So, you'd never met Gertrude
Baniszewski before that day?

191
00:11:26,057 --> 00:11:27,809
No, Sir.

192
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But, you were willing to leave your
children, with a complete stranger?

193
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Well, like I said, huh...

194
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we got to talking and...

195
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she openly admitted, that she
would take care of the children...

196
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and treat them like
they were her own.

197
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<i>Okay! Here is 20 now...</i>

198
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and huh... you'll have the next
payment in a week, Thursday.

199
00:11:50,621 --> 00:11:52,206
I'll need that money.

200
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You will have it.

201
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Johnny, bring the box upstairs!

202
00:11:55,626 --> 00:11:57,753
Okay, sweetheart,
that's real nice.

203
00:11:57,753 --> 00:11:59,713
I sure don't want you go.

204
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The circuit will be down and
done, at the end of September.

205
00:12:02,591 --> 00:12:04,217
That's only 2 months.

206
00:12:04,217 --> 00:12:07,553
And I promise, I will be back,
and get you girls then.

207
00:12:07,845 --> 00:12:11,265
Okay, kids.
Goodbye, Jenny, Cookie.

208
00:12:11,766 --> 00:12:13,559
- You be good!
- Okay.

209
00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,394
Bye-bye.

210
00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,896
Bye.

211
00:12:17,896 --> 00:12:19,898
Bye, girls.

212
00:12:20,982 --> 00:12:23,443
You girls make sure you get
everything you need.

213
00:12:23,443 --> 00:12:24,986
Thank you.

214
00:12:26,029 --> 00:12:27,530
Well, come on!

215
00:12:27,530 --> 00:12:29,490
We'll help you unpack.

216
00:12:34,411 --> 00:12:36,371
Wait, I'll help you.

217
00:12:56,098 --> 00:12:57,850
Nothing to be nervous about.

218
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Everyone's really nice here.
I promise.

219
00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:04,105
Hey, Paula, get your cherry
popped, this summer?

220
00:13:04,105 --> 00:13:06,941
You sure didn't, Teddy,
not with a face like that.

221
00:13:06,941 --> 00:13:08,818
Hey, come on Paula,
you know he's just playing.

222
00:13:08,818 --> 00:13:11,612
So, why don't you
play with yourselves?

223
00:13:11,612 --> 00:13:14,240
Coy is okay, but Teddy is
a goddamn delinquent.

224
00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,407
Paula!

225
00:13:15,407 --> 00:13:18,368
Those guys, they're always
messing with somebody.

226
00:13:18,368 --> 00:13:20,412
I'm sure, she will be okay.

227
00:13:20,412 --> 00:13:24,249
- You live with Paula and them?
- Yeah, for a bid, I guess.

228
00:13:24,249 --> 00:13:27,627
Yeah, I saw you the other day.

229
00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,129
I live right around the corner,
I'm Ricky Hobbs.

230
00:13:30,129 --> 00:13:31,464
Sylvia.

231
00:13:31,464 --> 00:13:33,465
Hey, there's a football game
this weekend...

232
00:13:33,465 --> 00:13:35,384
if you'd be interested in that at all.

233
00:13:35,384 --> 00:13:37,386
Oh, I don't like that much football.

234
00:13:37,386 --> 00:13:39,346
Sylvia, come on!

235
00:13:39,846 --> 00:13:41,598
Good bye!

236
00:13:45,435 --> 00:13:46,978
It's me!

237
00:13:46,978 --> 00:13:49,188
Hope, you brought my money.

238
00:13:49,188 --> 00:13:51,732
Nice to see you too.

239
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Came by to see my baby.

240
00:14:02,409 --> 00:14:03,827
Hi!

241
00:14:03,827 --> 00:14:05,495
Hey!

242
00:14:06,871 --> 00:14:08,539
Leave him!

243
00:14:08,539 --> 00:14:12,877
Well, I got my call-up papers.
I have to go to boot-camp soon.

244
00:14:15,629 --> 00:14:17,631
Put him back in.

245
00:14:19,925 --> 00:14:23,178
It took me all day to quiet him.

246
00:14:24,554 --> 00:14:27,473
- Not in front of the baby!
- Why? He don't care.

247
00:14:27,473 --> 00:14:29,392
I do!

248
00:14:32,436 --> 00:14:35,147
Listen, I'll be getting
a paycheck.

249
00:14:35,147 --> 00:14:37,566
So, you'll be getting
payments regularly.

250
00:14:39,943 --> 00:14:42,696
Who's gonna take care of you?

251
00:14:44,406 --> 00:14:47,241
Well, actually I was wondering...

252
00:14:47,241 --> 00:14:49,577
if I could borrow a few dollars...

253
00:14:49,577 --> 00:14:53,330
so I could visit my brother
in Lebanon, before I leave.

254
00:14:55,958 --> 00:14:59,086
If I had the money,
I'd give it to you.

255
00:14:59,086 --> 00:15:00,921
I saw your new boarders.

256
00:15:00,921 --> 00:15:02,797
Don't tell me, you're
doing that for charity.

257
00:15:02,797 --> 00:15:05,091
I had to take them in,
because of you.

258
00:15:05,091 --> 00:15:06,968
I ain't paying for
another man's kids.

259
00:15:06,968 --> 00:15:08,886
You ain't paying for no...

260
00:15:13,349 --> 00:15:15,559
I'm sorry, Gertie.

261
00:15:15,976 --> 00:15:17,936
I'm sorry.

262
00:15:25,944 --> 00:15:28,571
So, how was the
first day at school?

263
00:15:28,571 --> 00:15:31,198
Well, I made
a couple friends.

264
00:15:31,198 --> 00:15:34,952
See, we're not such bad people,
here on the Southside.

265
00:15:34,952 --> 00:15:37,955
Can you, pick up the kids
and bring'm home?

266
00:15:37,955 --> 00:15:39,581
There's something I have
to take care of.

267
00:15:39,581 --> 00:15:40,832
Yeah, is everything alright?

268
00:15:40,832 --> 00:15:43,626
Just tell mama, I picked up
an extra shift at work.

269
00:15:43,626 --> 00:15:45,378
Sure.

270
00:15:46,546 --> 00:15:49,882
You know, Paula is looking more
and more like you everyday.

271
00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,843
Lucky girl.

272
00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:56,680
Should watch her, though.

273
00:15:57,055 --> 00:15:59,975
She's been hanging out
with Bradley again.

274
00:16:00,767 --> 00:16:03,186
I hate to think, what'll happen.

275
00:16:03,186 --> 00:16:05,939
His wife's got a bad temper.

276
00:16:13,946 --> 00:16:16,865
You think, that I can
get that money?

277
00:16:21,369 --> 00:16:24,372
<i>There's a 20 in the top drawer.</i>

278
00:16:44,349 --> 00:16:46,517
Where do you live Mrs. Doyle?

279
00:16:46,517 --> 00:16:48,686
3848 East New York.

280
00:16:48,686 --> 00:16:51,063
You can almost reach out of
your dining room window...

281
00:16:51,063 --> 00:16:53,107
and touch Baniszewski's
kitchen, can't you?

282
00:16:53,107 --> 00:16:55,025
It's not that close.

283
00:16:55,025 --> 00:16:57,069
Because of the experience,
that you saw...

284
00:16:57,069 --> 00:16:59,363
Mrs. Baniszewski having there.

285
00:16:59,363 --> 00:17:02,532
Did you develop any bias, or
prejudice against her?

286
00:17:03,033 --> 00:17:05,410
No, I felt sorry for the lady.

287
00:17:05,410 --> 00:17:08,454
I felt she was a hard working
woman, with all them kids.

288
00:17:08,454 --> 00:17:12,166
Ever entertain any guilt feelings,
or animosity towards her?

289
00:17:12,708 --> 00:17:15,044
Oh, no, I can't judge her.

290
00:17:15,044 --> 00:17:17,171
I beg your pardon?

291
00:17:17,421 --> 00:17:20,006
I can't judge her.

292
00:17:22,133 --> 00:17:25,345
- Would you like to say prayer, Sylvia?
- Sure.

293
00:17:26,804 --> 00:17:28,973
Bless this food we eat,
and release...

294
00:17:28,973 --> 00:17:31,183
us from our sins, amen.

295
00:17:31,183 --> 00:17:33,185
Amen!

296
00:17:37,105 --> 00:17:39,733
Somebody get out there,
and feed that dog!

297
00:17:39,733 --> 00:17:41,693
Yeah, mama.

298
00:17:46,281 --> 00:17:47,907
Sorry, I'm late.

299
00:17:47,907 --> 00:17:49,784
Where you been?

300
00:17:50,117 --> 00:17:53,329
I took up the shift
for Ellen.

301
00:17:54,747 --> 00:17:57,124
I told you, I didn't want you
to see that boy anymore.

302
00:17:57,124 --> 00:17:59,126
- and I mean it.
- I didn't.

303
00:17:59,126 --> 00:18:01,628
Don't lie to me, Paula.

304
00:18:01,878 --> 00:18:04,839
What? Was he here?
Did Andy say something?

305
00:18:05,173 --> 00:18:07,383
- That's none of your business.
- Yeah, you just don't want...

306
00:18:07,383 --> 00:18:10,177
me to make the same
mistakes, you've made.

307
00:18:18,810 --> 00:18:21,479
I said, feed that dog!

308
00:18:25,567 --> 00:18:28,027
Johnny, feed the dog!

309
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,415
What's wrong, Paula?

310
00:18:44,375 --> 00:18:47,211
I've got problems, Sylvia.

311
00:18:47,962 --> 00:18:50,423
Big problems.

312
00:18:53,717 --> 00:18:55,886
With Bradley?

313
00:19:00,682 --> 00:19:03,893
I went to the doctor, today.

314
00:19:05,937 --> 00:19:08,356
I'm pregnant.

315
00:19:14,486 --> 00:19:17,072
You know the guy is married,

316
00:19:17,072 --> 00:19:19,032
I know, he wouldn't want a baby.

317
00:19:19,032 --> 00:19:22,285
I don't know a
damn thing to do.

318
00:19:24,913 --> 00:19:27,540
Well, you... you gotta tell him.

319
00:19:27,790 --> 00:19:30,001
I can't.

320
00:19:30,543 --> 00:19:33,003
Well, I think you gotta.

321
00:19:34,755 --> 00:19:39,718
You gotta promise me, that you
wont say anything to anybody.

322
00:19:40,802 --> 00:19:45,348
Not a word, until I figure out
what I'm gonna do, okay?

323
00:19:47,141 --> 00:19:49,519
Yeah, I promise.

324
00:19:53,105 --> 00:19:55,399
It's gonna be okay.

325
00:20:58,206 --> 00:21:00,167
Mama?

326
00:21:06,464 --> 00:21:08,299
Mama!

327
00:21:18,934 --> 00:21:21,311
I want you all, upstairs!

328
00:21:22,646 --> 00:21:24,689
Come on.

329
00:21:25,315 --> 00:21:27,483
Except for you two!

330
00:21:29,152 --> 00:21:31,862
I want you down in the basement!

331
00:21:47,460 --> 00:21:50,379
Your daddy’s' check
didn't arrive today.

332
00:21:50,379 --> 00:21:52,798
Oh, it's probably just late.

333
00:21:53,090 --> 00:21:56,677
I know my Mama, she wouldn't
let him forget.

334
00:21:56,677 --> 00:21:58,595
You know what I think?

335
00:21:58,595 --> 00:22:03,433
I just took care of you two,
for two weeks... for nothing.

336
00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:07,270
I think your mama and daddy...

337
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:09,689
left you here for good.

338
00:22:09,814 --> 00:22:11,691
They wouldn't do that.

339
00:22:11,691 --> 00:22:14,026
Keep your mouth shut!

340
00:22:19,281 --> 00:22:21,491
Lean over those.

341
00:22:22,075 --> 00:22:24,494
Go on, lean over.

342
00:22:40,342 --> 00:22:43,011
- No!
- Come on! Come on.

343
00:22:43,011 --> 00:22:45,346
- Oh, no!
- Get up!

344
00:22:45,346 --> 00:22:47,015
- Gertie!
- Come on!

345
00:22:47,015 --> 00:22:50,518
- No, let go of me!
- Let me get hers.

346
00:23:11,954 --> 00:23:13,956
Okay.

347
00:23:14,707 --> 00:23:16,583
Come on.

348
00:23:24,466 --> 00:23:26,551
Okay.

349
00:23:32,431 --> 00:23:35,142
I need that money.

350
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:55,494
Come on, Jennie...

351
00:23:57,996 --> 00:24:02,125
It's not like, we never
had a spanking before.

352
00:24:04,002 --> 00:24:08,172
You know, that check's gonna
come tomorrow, I swear.

353
00:24:26,231 --> 00:24:28,566
- Johnny!
- What? Give me the thing back!

354
00:24:28,566 --> 00:24:29,734
Stop that!

355
00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:31,652
Stop, hurting me!

356
00:24:31,652 --> 00:24:34,321
I'm 15, I should be able to come.

357
00:24:34,321 --> 00:24:37,407
Well, somebody's gotta play
catch with the little ones.

358
00:24:38,075 --> 00:24:41,244
I wonder if Bradley
is gonna be there.

359
00:24:42,996 --> 00:24:45,290
<i>Freedom was in jeopardy...</i>

360
00:24:45,707 --> 00:24:49,001
<i>when the struggling
people had been brought...</i>

361
00:24:49,001 --> 00:24:53,172
<i>almost to their knees,
by aggression.</i>

362
00:24:53,380 --> 00:24:57,801
<i>When William Westmoreland,
was called to urgent duty.</i>

363
00:24:57,801 --> 00:25:00,762
<i>$20.00.
Pay to: Gertrude Baniszewski</i>

364
00:25:00,762 --> 00:25:03,139
<i>His mission was to deny
aggression, it's conquest.</i>

365
00:25:03,139 --> 00:25:05,600
Please give us a call.
Love, Mom and Dad.

366
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,520
<i>It was a mission, simple
enough to stake.</i>

367
00:25:09,854 --> 00:25:12,731
<i>But to execute that mission...</i>

368
00:25:12,773 --> 00:25:15,317
<i>he had to fight the most
complex war...</i>

369
00:25:15,317 --> 00:25:17,110
<i>in all American history.</i>

370
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:19,237
What're you gonna see tonight,
Stephanie?

371
00:25:19,237 --> 00:25:21,239
Well, they ain't gonna
show a movie, Marie.

372
00:25:21,239 --> 00:25:22,866
The only thing she'll be seeing...

373
00:25:22,866 --> 00:25:25,076
is Coys hand, while
she's pushing him away.

374
00:25:25,076 --> 00:25:26,953
I might not be pushing to hard.

375
00:25:26,953 --> 00:25:28,871
Yeah, yeah, princess Grace...

376
00:25:28,871 --> 00:25:30,790
you'd scream, if he
breads on your blouse.

377
00:25:30,790 --> 00:25:32,958
That's not true, Paula,
you know it.

378
00:25:32,958 --> 00:25:35,419
Don't give Sylvia
the wrong idea, now.

379
00:25:35,711 --> 00:25:38,255
Look, I shot his eye out.

380
00:25:38,255 --> 00:25:39,548
Why'd you do that?

381
00:25:39,548 --> 00:25:41,508
Johnny! Get outta here!

382
00:25:42,509 --> 00:25:43,718
You're dead!

383
00:25:43,718 --> 00:25:45,803
That's insane.

384
00:25:46,971 --> 00:25:49,682
Listen, God! This is crap!

385
00:25:49,682 --> 00:25:53,394
There is nothing ever to do,
in this shit-hole town.

386
00:25:53,394 --> 00:25:55,187
It ain't that bad, Teddy.

387
00:25:55,187 --> 00:25:57,064
Yeah, it is.

388
00:25:58,982 --> 00:26:00,817
Howdy!

389
00:26:04,863 --> 00:26:08,032
You know?
Don't know about you...

390
00:26:08,282 --> 00:26:10,576
but, I'm staying up,
all night, tonight.

391
00:26:10,576 --> 00:26:13,495
He's parents ain't
gonna like that.

392
00:26:13,495 --> 00:26:15,497
They don't give a shit.

393
00:26:15,497 --> 00:26:17,207
Do they?

394
00:26:17,666 --> 00:26:20,961
- You like it here?
- Yeah, it's really nice.

395
00:26:20,961 --> 00:26:22,963
He's here.

396
00:26:23,254 --> 00:26:24,964
I'll be right back.

397
00:26:24,964 --> 00:26:26,966
Maybe you shouldn't.

398
00:26:33,264 --> 00:26:34,848
Hey!

399
00:26:34,890 --> 00:26:36,183
Ricky.

400
00:26:36,183 --> 00:26:38,352
You shouldn't sneak
up on girls like that.

401
00:26:38,352 --> 00:26:39,978
I'm sorry.

402
00:26:39,978 --> 00:26:43,356
Hey, the nursery is
around the corner.

403
00:26:43,356 --> 00:26:46,067
You might wanna get back,
before they miss you.

404
00:26:46,067 --> 00:26:47,652
I brought some favors.

405
00:26:47,652 --> 00:26:49,570
Give me some of that!

406
00:26:53,699 --> 00:26:55,200
What're you doing here?

407
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,120
- I wanted to see you.
- We already talked about this.

408
00:26:58,870 --> 00:27:02,540
I just be right back.

409
00:27:03,625 --> 00:27:05,168
Good!

410
00:27:05,168 --> 00:27:07,795
I already told you, my wife is
back from her cousins house.

411
00:27:07,795 --> 00:27:09,839
So that's it. Okay?

412
00:27:10,047 --> 00:27:13,968
Now, be a good girl,
and go play with your friends.

413
00:27:15,844 --> 00:27:18,597
You know, my Mama's
been calling you trash.

414
00:27:18,597 --> 00:27:20,682
I'm starting to believe her.

415
00:27:21,308 --> 00:27:24,936
You should listen to your
mother, Paula, she knows best.

416
00:27:24,936 --> 00:27:27,063
You know, you don't mean that.

417
00:27:27,063 --> 00:27:28,231
Lay off me!

418
00:27:28,231 --> 00:27:29,524
Get off me!

419
00:27:29,524 --> 00:27:31,567
- No!
- Just a kiss.

420
00:27:31,942 --> 00:27:35,154
- Is this what you want, huh?
- Stop it! Stop!

421
00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:37,281
- Hey! Stop!
- Get the hell outta here!

422
00:27:37,281 --> 00:27:39,282
It's private fool, no invitation.

423
00:27:39,574 --> 00:27:41,284
She is pregnant!

424
00:27:48,124 --> 00:27:52,086
Don't try to pull that shit on me!
You know, it ain't true.

425
00:27:52,795 --> 00:27:54,797
There ain't no way.

426
00:27:56,673 --> 00:27:58,925
Stay away.

427
00:28:00,594 --> 00:28:02,637
Paula, I'm so sorry.
I just wanted to...

428
00:28:02,637 --> 00:28:06,599
- You're gonna pay for this!
- I... Paula, I just...

429
00:28:11,062 --> 00:28:13,022
Is everything okay?

430
00:28:13,022 --> 00:28:15,524
Would you quit following me!

431
00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:29,120
Paula?

432
00:28:30,579 --> 00:28:32,289
Honey, you're crying!

433
00:28:32,289 --> 00:28:34,625
- Mom!
- What's wrong?

434
00:28:35,501 --> 00:28:38,295
I ain't talking to him anymore.

435
00:28:38,295 --> 00:28:43,133
Oh, that's a good girl,
that's a good girl, yes.

436
00:28:44,467 --> 00:28:47,220
You know, we're gonna find
you a good man, Honey.

437
00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:50,056
Not like Andy, or your daddy.

438
00:28:51,140 --> 00:28:53,726
But Sylvia said...

439
00:28:54,059 --> 00:28:55,936
What?

440
00:28:59,231 --> 00:29:03,193
She telling horrible lies,
about me.

441
00:29:06,237 --> 00:29:08,656
What kind of lies?

442
00:29:13,577 --> 00:29:17,122
She's telling everyone,
that I'm a slut.

443
00:29:19,958 --> 00:29:22,002
You should have seen those
boys when they heard...

444
00:29:22,002 --> 00:29:24,754
that I was a slut.

445
00:29:25,588 --> 00:29:28,007
Sylvia said that?.

446
00:29:36,056 --> 00:29:38,308
Don't worry, Baby.

447
00:29:39,267 --> 00:29:41,603
Don't worry.

448
00:29:47,525 --> 00:29:52,071
Did you ever hear Sylvia, use
any vanity or vulgar language?

449
00:29:52,071 --> 00:29:53,239
No, Sir.

450
00:29:53,239 --> 00:29:57,910
Do you know how often Sylvia went
to Sunday school or church?

451
00:29:57,910 --> 00:29:59,661
She'd go every time we went.

452
00:29:59,661 --> 00:30:02,289
- Does Sylvia have a bible?
- yes.

453
00:30:02,289 --> 00:30:04,833
Did she dress up nice and clean?

454
00:30:04,833 --> 00:30:06,334
Yes, Sir.

455
00:30:06,334 --> 00:30:10,921
As Mathew said:
"Enter by the narrow gate".

456
00:30:11,172 --> 00:30:14,216
For the gate is wide and
the way is easy...

457
00:30:14,216 --> 00:30:16,927
that leads to destruction...

458
00:30:16,927 --> 00:30:20,722
and those who enter by it,
are many.

459
00:30:22,015 --> 00:30:26,102
When the gate is narrow
and the way is hard...

460
00:30:26,102 --> 00:30:28,271
that leads to life...

461
00:30:28,271 --> 00:30:32,650
and those who find it, are few.

462
00:30:49,248 --> 00:30:52,001
Jennie, come sit with me!

463
00:31:12,228 --> 00:31:15,356
We gotta go upstairs and change.

464
00:31:16,482 --> 00:31:19,234
I want you all down here.

465
00:31:19,484 --> 00:31:21,653
Family-meeting.

466
00:31:23,863 --> 00:31:26,282
It's a lesson for all of you.

467
00:31:42,464 --> 00:31:45,216
You need to apologize to Paula.

468
00:31:52,223 --> 00:31:53,390
But Gertie, I... I don't know...

469
00:31:53,390 --> 00:31:55,684
I want you to apologize.

470
00:31:55,684 --> 00:31:57,853
What she'd done, mama?

471
00:31:58,145 --> 00:32:01,273
She's been spreading lies
about your sister.

472
00:32:01,273 --> 00:32:03,024
I...

473
00:32:10,156 --> 00:32:12,158
I'm sorry.

474
00:32:13,450 --> 00:32:17,246
Paula, you have the right,
to get even.

475
00:32:17,246 --> 00:32:19,414
What you wanna do?

476
00:32:19,956 --> 00:32:22,208
I want you to punish her, mama.

477
00:32:24,752 --> 00:32:26,838
You have to learn to fight
your own battles, baby.

478
00:32:26,838 --> 00:32:29,340
- Get over there.
- Johnny, grab her arms.

479
00:32:29,882 --> 00:32:31,509
I said I was sorry.

480
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:33,427
I don't care what you said.

481
00:32:36,096 --> 00:32:38,932
Go on, she's got it coming.

482
00:32:45,188 --> 00:32:46,689
Let her go!

483
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,692
I'm sure, she
can defend herself.

484
00:32:57,032 --> 00:32:58,909
I am not.

485
00:32:58,909 --> 00:33:00,619
I will not.

486
00:33:00,619 --> 00:33:03,079
- I am not.
- She is not!

487
00:33:05,165 --> 00:33:07,083
Damn it!

488
00:33:07,583 --> 00:33:09,794
Enough, that's okay!

489
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:13,797
Get up.

490
00:33:13,797 --> 00:33:15,549
Get up! Get up!

491
00:33:19,302 --> 00:33:21,513
She's learned her lesson.

492
00:33:21,846 --> 00:33:24,724
That's what happens
when you tell lies.

493
00:33:25,934 --> 00:33:27,810
Go on!

494
00:33:38,362 --> 00:33:40,322
You too, get!

495
00:34:03,301 --> 00:34:05,595
Are you awake?

496
00:34:11,225 --> 00:34:13,352
You're okay?

497
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,316
Did you say your prayers yet?

498
00:34:21,985 --> 00:34:24,821
How about mamas favorite psalm?

499
00:34:31,202 --> 00:34:35,289
Turn on to me, and be
gracious to me, dear lord.

500
00:34:35,998 --> 00:34:39,376
for I am lonely and affected.

501
00:34:39,376 --> 00:34:42,212
Release the chalice of my heart...

502
00:34:42,212 --> 00:34:45,757
and bring me out
of my distresses!

503
00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:50,803
Consider how many are my foes...

504
00:34:51,262 --> 00:34:52,430
Thank you.

505
00:34:52,430 --> 00:34:55,391
I will put my fate in thee...

506
00:34:57,142 --> 00:35:00,562
make my life in to a better me.

507
00:35:01,563 --> 00:35:04,649
I will not think of the shame.

508
00:35:05,525 --> 00:35:08,277
I take refuge in thee!

509
00:35:10,780 --> 00:35:14,700
and take thee in greatness be sure.

510
00:35:18,036 --> 00:35:20,664
Amen.

511
00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:40,682
- I hear, your sister's pregnant.
- I see you.

512
00:35:40,682 --> 00:35:44,144
- Who's the guy?
- You know, that's not funny.

513
00:35:44,769 --> 00:35:47,146
I didn't say it.

514
00:35:48,356 --> 00:35:50,733
A lotta people are talking.

515
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:16,715
Why aren't you in school?

516
00:36:27,517 --> 00:36:29,810
You, huh... doing okay?

517
00:36:31,604 --> 00:36:32,813
Yeah.

518
00:36:32,813 --> 00:36:35,190
It's, huh... Sylvia, right?

519
00:36:35,357 --> 00:36:37,109
Yeah.

520
00:36:38,193 --> 00:36:40,237
Eric.

521
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,572
I, huh... I've
seen you at church.

522
00:36:42,572 --> 00:36:44,741
Yeah, that's me.

523
00:36:45,283 --> 00:36:47,785
You're going to the, huh...
pick-nick, next Saturday?

524
00:36:49,078 --> 00:36:51,330
Well, huh... I hope so.

525
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:52,498
Okay.

526
00:36:52,498 --> 00:36:54,291
Maybe I'll see you there.

527
00:36:59,129 --> 00:37:00,964
Huh... I'm gonna go.

528
00:37:01,256 --> 00:37:03,133
Okay.

529
00:37:06,469 --> 00:37:09,680
Why was Mama so upset
about the other day?

530
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,223
You haven't heard?

531
00:37:11,223 --> 00:37:13,559
I told everyone,
that Paula was a slut.

532
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:16,061
That's not true, is it?

533
00:37:17,479 --> 00:37:20,816
There's some worse rumors
going around, about her.

534
00:37:24,152 --> 00:37:26,654
Do you think, she's pregnant?

535
00:37:26,654 --> 00:37:30,032
- What do you think?
- Yeah, she's real easy.

536
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:42,377
Thanks.

537
00:37:43,628 --> 00:37:45,922
How's your mama?

538
00:37:46,422 --> 00:37:48,257
Okay.

539
00:37:48,633 --> 00:37:51,052
She still in the hospital?

540
00:37:51,052 --> 00:37:52,928
Yeah.

541
00:37:58,267 --> 00:38:00,560
Who's taking care of you?

542
00:38:03,271 --> 00:38:05,315
I am.

543
00:38:07,650 --> 00:38:10,486
Oh, you don't have a girlfriend?

544
00:38:12,363 --> 00:38:13,989
I don't know.

545
00:38:13,989 --> 00:38:16,283
- You don't know?
- No, I don't.

546
00:38:16,283 --> 00:38:18,577
And, huh... does she know?

547
00:38:22,580 --> 00:38:24,207
You wanna a sip?

548
00:38:24,207 --> 00:38:26,459
I ain't old enough.

549
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,130
You ain't old enough
to smoke, either...

550
00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:33,549
and that's not stopping you.

551
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:40,388
Jennie?

552
00:38:41,014 --> 00:38:44,058
I think, we should call mom and dad.

553
00:38:44,476 --> 00:38:46,686
How we're supposed to do that?

554
00:38:46,686 --> 00:38:49,772
Here, I found this in the trash.

555
00:38:56,028 --> 00:38:59,740
So, huh... how long's Sylvia
gonna be staying here?

556
00:39:00,365 --> 00:39:03,284
You got a crush on Sylvia?

557
00:39:10,708 --> 00:39:13,002
She is pretty.

558
00:39:14,628 --> 00:39:16,672
When I was in high-school...

559
00:39:16,672 --> 00:39:20,842
I was popular with the boys
too then, they all chased me.

560
00:39:22,927 --> 00:39:25,263
I believe you.

561
00:39:25,763 --> 00:39:27,515
Thank you.

562
00:39:28,808 --> 00:39:31,352
Oh, are you warm.

563
00:39:37,524 --> 00:39:40,277
What're you doing home
from school so early?

564
00:39:40,277 --> 00:39:43,196
I'm not feeling real good.

565
00:39:43,988 --> 00:39:45,782
Paula?

566
00:39:46,324 --> 00:39:48,451
You better go.

567
00:39:49,952 --> 00:39:52,037
Alright, you first.

568
00:39:52,037 --> 00:39:53,205
<i>Hello?</i>

569
00:39:53,205 --> 00:39:55,582
<i>- Mama?
- Oh, Honey!</i>

570
00:39:55,582 --> 00:39:57,584
I was afraid, you didn't
get our letter.

571
00:39:57,584 --> 00:39:59,836
Oh, mama, we miss you so much.

572
00:39:59,836 --> 00:40:01,546
<i>Oh, I miss you too, Honey.</i>

573
00:40:01,546 --> 00:40:03,757
I'm gonna pick you up in 2 weeks.

574
00:40:03,757 --> 00:40:06,301
So, how is everything going there?

575
00:40:07,593 --> 00:40:10,513
Oh, Gertrude's awful strict, mama.

576
00:40:10,513 --> 00:40:12,640
<i>We got in a whole
lotta trouble.</i>

577
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,433
<i>What do you mean?
Did she punish you?</i>

578
00:40:14,433 --> 00:40:16,477
What's goin' on? These girls
been getting in trouble again?

579
00:40:16,477 --> 00:40:18,186
<i>- Let me talk to'm.
- She got mad...</i>

580
00:40:18,186 --> 00:40:19,604
because your check's late.

581
00:40:19,604 --> 00:40:20,814
Our check was late?

582
00:40:20,814 --> 00:40:22,274
<i>No, it wasn't.</i>

583
00:40:22,274 --> 00:40:24,067
<i>Let me talk to her.</i>

584
00:40:24,067 --> 00:40:25,568
Oh, we gotta go.

585
00:40:25,735 --> 00:40:27,111
<i>Sylvia?</i>

586
00:40:27,111 --> 00:40:28,613
<i>Sylvia!</i>

587
00:40:30,531 --> 00:40:32,533
They're coming, mama.

588
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,794
Calling your boyfriend, Sylvia?

589
00:40:44,919 --> 00:40:46,379
No.

590
00:40:46,379 --> 00:40:48,339
Nobody special.

591
00:40:48,339 --> 00:40:50,633
We miss our parents.

592
00:40:51,634 --> 00:40:53,677
Thank you, Jennie.

593
00:40:54,011 --> 00:40:56,555
Where'd you get the money to
make a long-distance call?

594
00:40:56,555 --> 00:41:00,392
I was picking up empty bottles
at the Park, and traded'm in.

595
00:41:00,392 --> 00:41:03,269
Honest, that's all she did.

596
00:41:18,575 --> 00:41:20,285
What she's gonna do?

597
00:41:20,285 --> 00:41:23,204
<i>What she always does, when
she catches you stealin'.</i>

598
00:41:24,164 --> 00:41:26,958
Are you gonna lie to me again?

599
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,127
- No, Gertie, I...
- You gonna steal is this household?

600
00:41:30,127 --> 00:41:32,713
I didn't steal from you, Gertie.

601
00:41:32,713 --> 00:41:35,716
What you'd... call your parents,
and warn them, that...

602
00:41:35,716 --> 00:41:37,718
Gertie doesn't treat you right?

603
00:41:37,718 --> 00:41:39,553
No, ma'am.

604
00:41:40,846 --> 00:41:42,347
Alright.

605
00:41:44,974 --> 00:41:46,017
I'm sorry!

606
00:41:46,225 --> 00:41:47,727
I'm sorry!

607
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,986
Okay, okay, that's a good girl,
that's a good girl.

608
00:42:02,657 --> 00:42:05,285
You wanna put some ice on that.

609
00:42:14,293 --> 00:42:17,796
Now, I think you stated, Marie,
that your sister Paula...

610
00:42:17,796 --> 00:42:21,800
you'd volunteered, that Paula
was jealous of Sylvia.

611
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,220
Every time she looked at her,
her eyes looked like she hated her.

612
00:42:25,220 --> 00:42:28,181
Do you know, what the
word jealous means?

613
00:42:28,514 --> 00:42:30,808
Angry at someone.

614
00:42:30,808 --> 00:42:32,893
Can you assign a reason...

615
00:42:32,893 --> 00:42:37,481
to, why Paula might shoot Sylvia,
those angry, jealous glances?

616
00:42:39,232 --> 00:42:41,651
I guess, because Sylvia thought...

617
00:42:41,651 --> 00:42:44,863
she was so much more important,
than Paula was.

618
00:42:44,863 --> 00:42:47,615
Do you remember a time, when you
went to Bethany Baptist church...

619
00:42:47,615 --> 00:42:50,576
and had little sandwiches
and something to drink?

620
00:42:55,622 --> 00:42:59,126
I haven't seen you eat
up in a few weeks.

621
00:42:59,126 --> 00:43:03,004
Oh, I'm sorry, Mrs. Orbach,
I've I had to work.

622
00:43:03,046 --> 00:43:05,298
What's with your arm, Paula?

623
00:43:06,132 --> 00:43:09,093
I lost my temper, with Sylvia.

624
00:43:09,427 --> 00:43:11,929
So, what'd you mean,
what happened?

625
00:43:14,223 --> 00:43:17,601
She's been doing some real
terrible things.

626
00:43:17,601 --> 00:43:19,519
I had to be real strict with her.

627
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,774
Come on, its Ok.
It's Ok, come on.

628
00:43:25,233 --> 00:43:27,068
Don't take too much.

629
00:43:28,569 --> 00:43:30,279
Hey, what're you doing here?

630
00:43:30,279 --> 00:43:32,072
Came out, for the free food.

631
00:43:32,072 --> 00:43:33,949
And the women.

632
00:43:34,366 --> 00:43:37,035
I hope you don't want
any money, because...

633
00:43:37,035 --> 00:43:40,163
- So, John Senior has...
- I'm not here for money.

634
00:43:40,163 --> 00:43:41,957
Bradley send me.

635
00:43:41,957 --> 00:43:43,958
About Paula.

636
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,380
- Did you say hi to the baby yet?
- Ah-ah.

637
00:43:52,216 --> 00:43:55,636
- Look, about yesterday...
- It's fine, it's fine.

638
00:43:55,636 --> 00:43:57,179
- Sylvia, I'm really...
- It's alright, don't worry about it.

639
00:43:57,179 --> 00:43:59,890
Mama, be back by the
end of this week.

640
00:44:08,147 --> 00:44:09,649
Hey.

641
00:44:10,149 --> 00:44:11,650
Hi.

642
00:44:12,485 --> 00:44:15,487
A couple of my friends, are eating
over there, you wanna join us?

643
00:44:16,196 --> 00:44:18,490
- Sure.
- Okay.

644
00:44:19,241 --> 00:44:21,034
Sylvia!

645
00:44:21,034 --> 00:44:23,745
- Just one second.
- No problem.

646
00:44:25,955 --> 00:44:30,084
Ricky, remember what I said
the other day about Paula?

647
00:44:30,126 --> 00:44:32,169
Did you say something?

648
00:44:32,294 --> 00:44:34,129
No.

649
00:44:34,296 --> 00:44:35,839
Because people are talking...

650
00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:38,091
and Stephanie and
Paula, are blaming me.

651
00:44:38,091 --> 00:44:40,886
No, no, I wouldn't do
something like that.

652
00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:43,805
I better go.

653
00:44:49,185 --> 00:44:51,896
I understand she's pregnant?

654
00:44:52,062 --> 00:44:53,897
He says, he's willing to
pay for the abortion.

655
00:44:53,897 --> 00:44:56,275
Be quiet, keep your
voice down, please!

656
00:44:56,275 --> 00:45:00,487
If Paula's willing to go through
with it, anything to keep it quiet.

657
00:45:00,487 --> 00:45:02,238
Here.

658
00:45:05,491 --> 00:45:08,703
There's not gonna be an abortion,
because she's not pregnant.

659
00:45:08,703 --> 00:45:10,162
He didn't even know about it.

660
00:45:10,162 --> 00:45:12,414
But, Sylvia is the one saying it.

661
00:45:13,499 --> 00:45:18,295
That girl's been nothing but trouble
since she came in to my house.

662
00:45:18,587 --> 00:45:22,382
If anyone is pregnant,
she is, I'll bet she is.

663
00:45:26,260 --> 00:45:28,096
I gotta go.

664
00:45:28,846 --> 00:45:30,389
Bye, Kenny.

665
00:45:30,765 --> 00:45:32,641
Bye.

666
00:45:34,852 --> 00:45:36,728
He'll be back, baby.

667
00:45:36,728 --> 00:45:38,355
Hey!

668
00:45:41,107 --> 00:45:44,569
Coming over to hang out
with the grown-ups?

669
00:45:50,449 --> 00:45:53,035
I've got some advice for you.

670
00:45:53,244 --> 00:45:56,038
I wouldn't come between
Gertie and her kids,

671
00:45:56,038 --> 00:45:58,123
She won't like it much.

672
00:45:58,123 --> 00:45:59,708
Alright.

673
00:46:05,964 --> 00:46:07,507
You okay, Gertie?

674
00:46:09,383 --> 00:46:11,802
Yeah, I'm fine.

675
00:46:13,637 --> 00:46:17,516
A bunch of us, gonna cruise the
circle, you wanna come with?

676
00:46:18,433 --> 00:46:22,062
Sure, I probably should
ask Gertie first.

677
00:46:22,687 --> 00:46:24,647
You sure?

678
00:46:26,065 --> 00:46:28,651
Come on, let's get outta here!

679
00:46:34,740 --> 00:46:37,367
Looks like Sylvia's going
off with them boys.

680
00:46:37,367 --> 00:46:40,287
You sound surprised,
Ricky Hobbs.

681
00:46:40,287 --> 00:46:42,706
You shouldn't be.

682
00:46:44,290 --> 00:46:46,459
Let me do that!

683
00:46:49,045 --> 00:46:51,505
You can try, Patty.

684
00:46:55,050 --> 00:46:57,970
You sure you can't come,
to the Drive-in with us?

685
00:46:59,221 --> 00:47:02,724
No, I'm... I'm late as it is.

686
00:47:03,641 --> 00:47:05,143
Let's go!

687
00:47:08,563 --> 00:47:11,482
Well, I guess, I'll see you
next Sunday then.

688
00:47:24,577 --> 00:47:26,746
Shut that door.

689
00:47:39,174 --> 00:47:42,802
I dought, I thought you a lesson.

690
00:47:47,056 --> 00:47:49,809
I don't understand.

691
00:47:49,809 --> 00:47:54,480
Apparently, you've been telling
more lies about my daughter.

692
00:47:56,732 --> 00:47:59,067
I haven't told any lies.

693
00:48:03,655 --> 00:48:06,783
- And then you flirt with, Andy.
- I didn't.

694
00:48:06,991 --> 00:48:09,535
I saw you!

695
00:48:14,498 --> 00:48:19,920
No matter what you want,
you just... you just take it.

696
00:48:20,754 --> 00:48:24,883
No, Gertie, we were just talking.

697
00:48:26,384 --> 00:48:28,636
That's all.

698
00:48:34,099 --> 00:48:35,851
Who's in charge here?

699
00:48:35,851 --> 00:48:37,477
You are, mama.

700
00:48:37,477 --> 00:48:39,604
That's right, Baby.

701
00:48:49,113 --> 00:48:53,117
Paula, told me about those
boys in California.

702
00:48:53,492 --> 00:48:57,663
Ricky, did Sylvia tell you, about
all those boys in California?

703
00:48:59,247 --> 00:49:01,333
No.

704
00:49:03,001 --> 00:49:04,627
Well' if you won't listen to me...

705
00:49:04,627 --> 00:49:06,921
maybe I can get you to
listen to your sister.

706
00:49:07,130 --> 00:49:10,466
Keep her from making
those mistakes.

707
00:49:10,466 --> 00:49:12,009
Jennie...

708
00:49:12,093 --> 00:49:15,054
do you wanna be like your sister?

709
00:49:17,764 --> 00:49:19,433
No, ma'am.

710
00:49:21,142 --> 00:49:23,395
That's a good girl.

711
00:49:56,550 --> 00:49:59,302
Patty, then what did
Mrs. Baniszewski do?

712
00:49:59,302 --> 00:50:01,263
She handed her a bottle...

713
00:50:01,263 --> 00:50:03,723
and told her to pull all her skirt.

714
00:50:03,723 --> 00:50:05,642
And then?

715
00:50:05,642 --> 00:50:09,520
And then, she said
to put it up her.

716
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,692
Did Sylvia say anything, when
Mrs. Baniszewski ask her to do this?

717
00:50:16,527 --> 00:50:18,654
All she said was...

718
00:50:18,654 --> 00:50:20,363
I can't.

719
00:50:20,363 --> 00:50:22,532
What did Mrs. Baniszewski say?

720
00:50:22,532 --> 00:50:23,700
She said...

721
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:25,952
Come on, you can do
better than that!

722
00:50:25,952 --> 00:50:28,204
And what did Sylvia do?

723
00:50:28,329 --> 00:50:30,790
What Gertie told her to.

724
00:50:32,416 --> 00:50:34,710
What the hell is going on?

725
00:50:35,169 --> 00:50:37,170
Somebody, clean up the mess!

726
00:50:37,170 --> 00:50:39,089
Sylvia, get upstairs!

727
00:50:39,089 --> 00:50:41,132
Coy, get her up there!

728
00:50:44,802 --> 00:50:45,970
Wait!

729
00:50:45,970 --> 00:50:49,098
I will not have her in the
same room with my daughter's.

730
00:50:49,098 --> 00:50:50,683
Take her to the basement!

731
00:50:50,683 --> 00:50:52,643
Please, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!

732
00:50:52,643 --> 00:50:56,355
- Open the door, Johnny!
- I'm sorry, Gertie! I'm sorry!

733
00:50:56,772 --> 00:50:59,107
Get her outta here!

734
00:50:59,191 --> 00:51:01,610
No! Noooo...

735
00:51:01,610 --> 00:51:04,529
It's best to stay
out of there, I think?

736
00:51:04,946 --> 00:51:08,699
Don't worry, Jennie,
Mama's just teaching her.

737
00:51:08,699 --> 00:51:12,620
- She won't go down.
- I don't care! Just push her!

738
00:52:10,923 --> 00:52:12,842
Hey, Marie!

739
00:52:45,455 --> 00:52:47,373
Sylvia.

740
00:52:48,291 --> 00:52:50,167
Sylvia.

741
00:52:55,172 --> 00:52:57,591
I'm sorry, Sylvia.

742
00:52:59,051 --> 00:53:00,969
But, I'm to scared.

743
00:53:01,886 --> 00:53:05,557
I've tried talking,
with Gertie, but...

744
00:53:09,185 --> 00:53:13,981
She... she said,
you can have your bible.

745
00:53:17,401 --> 00:53:19,194
Jennie.

746
00:53:19,653 --> 00:53:22,238
Mama wants you upstairs.

747
00:53:22,238 --> 00:53:24,449
Family-meeting.

748
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:28,411
I'll do what I can.

749
00:53:29,662 --> 00:53:31,747
She said now.

750
00:53:54,226 --> 00:53:56,270
Stop hitting me!

751
00:53:56,270 --> 00:53:58,063
Give me that!

752
00:53:58,522 --> 00:54:01,524
Johnny, get me my medicine, please.

753
00:54:02,651 --> 00:54:06,779
Oh, this area here,
it's not good for my health.

754
00:54:07,238 --> 00:54:08,990
Maybe we can move.

755
00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:11,075
Where would we move to, Shirley?

756
00:54:11,075 --> 00:54:12,827
I don't know.

757
00:54:12,827 --> 00:54:14,995
I don't wanna move.

758
00:54:20,750 --> 00:54:23,711
I had a call with
your parents today.

759
00:54:23,711 --> 00:54:25,672
Are they coming for us?

760
00:54:25,672 --> 00:54:27,924
Well, they picked up the
Florida Labor Day circuit...

761
00:54:27,924 --> 00:54:31,469
so, they wont be here for you,
until the end of November, now.

762
00:54:32,219 --> 00:54:34,722
Their checks are coming
in regular, though.

763
00:54:34,722 --> 00:54:37,516
My ironing slowed down...

764
00:54:37,516 --> 00:54:39,184
quite a bit.

765
00:54:39,184 --> 00:54:42,729
So, we all have to work
together, as a family.

766
00:54:42,729 --> 00:54:46,649
Maybe, I can eat over at Coy's
house, mama, if that'll help.

767
00:54:46,649 --> 00:54:47,942
Coy?

768
00:54:47,942 --> 00:54:49,569
Mama, wont mind.

769
00:54:49,569 --> 00:54:51,570
She likes Stephanie a lot.

770
00:54:51,570 --> 00:54:53,489
Thank you.

771
00:54:55,741 --> 00:54:57,743
Paula...

772
00:54:58,327 --> 00:55:01,705
Baby, you gonna have to take
up more shift's at work.

773
00:55:01,705 --> 00:55:04,124
Maybe quit Tech for a while.

774
00:55:05,708 --> 00:55:08,294
What about Stephanie?

775
00:55:08,336 --> 00:55:11,338
- Why she have to go to school?
- Because she's smarter than you.

776
00:55:11,338 --> 00:55:13,757
- Shut up, Johnny!
- I'm smarter than you!

777
00:55:13,757 --> 00:55:15,759
- I'm smarter than the both of you!
- Give me my Teddy!

778
00:55:15,759 --> 00:55:16,927
Stop it!

779
00:55:16,927 --> 00:55:18,261
Stop it!

780
00:55:18,261 --> 00:55:20,305
You all, stop it!

781
00:55:22,849 --> 00:55:25,727
That's another thing we have
to work on around here.

782
00:55:25,727 --> 00:55:29,105
We all have to learn
to get along better.

783
00:55:30,064 --> 00:55:34,526
How long is Sylvia,
down in the basement?

784
00:55:36,862 --> 00:55:40,031
Until she learns her lesson.

785
00:55:42,367 --> 00:55:43,993
Mama...

786
00:55:46,579 --> 00:55:49,081
She needs to be punished, Paula.

787
00:55:52,168 --> 00:55:54,044
Yes, Mama.

788
00:55:56,463 --> 00:55:59,132
Now, if anybody asks...

789
00:55:59,257 --> 00:56:03,553
Sylvia... had to go to juvenile.

790
00:56:08,724 --> 00:56:10,726
You got that, Jennie?

791
00:56:17,566 --> 00:56:19,568
Okay.

792
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,237
That's it.

793
00:56:48,136 --> 00:56:50,221
Are you sleeping?

794
00:56:56,435 --> 00:56:58,520
You okay?

795
00:57:01,898 --> 00:57:03,900
Yes.

796
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,029
It's only gonna be for a little while.

797
00:57:19,623 --> 00:57:23,334
Did you ever hear or see, Sylvia,
talk back to any of those people...

798
00:57:23,334 --> 00:57:25,044
when these things were
being done to her?

799
00:57:25,044 --> 00:57:26,629
No, I never.

800
00:57:26,629 --> 00:57:29,715
When it first started did
she say anything then?

801
00:57:29,715 --> 00:57:33,719
No, except she would say,
I'm sorry, or something like that,

802
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:36,221
as if she did something wrong, but...

803
00:57:36,430 --> 00:57:39,141
she never did anything wrong.

804
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:44,437
Did you yourself, on any of these
occasions, do anything to Sylvia?

805
00:57:44,604 --> 00:57:47,148
I just did what I was told.

806
00:57:50,234 --> 00:57:52,653
Now then, in the month of
September did you see she was an influx

807
00:57:52,653 --> 00:57:54,863
anyone else, do anything to Sylvia?

808
00:58:37,611 --> 00:58:39,988
See, I told you so.

809
00:58:43,825 --> 00:58:45,076
Damn.

810
00:58:45,076 --> 00:58:46,285
What'd she do?

811
00:58:46,285 --> 00:58:47,453
She was real bad.

812
00:58:47,453 --> 00:58:48,621
She's dirty.

813
00:58:48,621 --> 00:58:50,539
Mama said, she was a slut.

814
00:58:53,542 --> 00:58:54,710
Johnny!

815
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:55,961
Don't worry about it.

816
00:58:55,961 --> 00:58:58,046
She's used to it.

817
00:58:59,381 --> 00:59:01,383
Watch this!

818
00:59:08,014 --> 00:59:09,181
Neat, huh?

819
00:59:09,181 --> 00:59:10,725
You just burn her like that?

820
00:59:10,725 --> 00:59:12,560
Yeah, you can too.

821
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,228
- I don't want to.
- What? You're chicken?.

822
00:59:14,228 --> 00:59:15,396
It's OK.

823
00:59:15,396 --> 00:59:17,689
Mama, said you can.

824
00:59:47,008 --> 00:59:51,429
Did you see Sally, take cigarettes,
and actually burn Sylvia with them?

825
00:59:51,429 --> 00:59:53,722
- Yes.
- How many times?

826
00:59:53,722 --> 00:59:56,141
She would do it, every
time she came over.

827
00:59:57,184 --> 00:59:59,102
How many times did that happened?

828
00:59:59,102 --> 01:00:00,896
Every day.

829
01:00:00,979 --> 01:00:03,857
Did you go to 3850 East New York St...

830
01:00:03,857 --> 01:00:06,067
during the months of
September and October?

831
01:00:06,067 --> 01:00:07,610
Yes, Sir.

832
01:00:07,610 --> 01:00:09,570
We go most days after school.

833
01:00:09,570 --> 01:00:12,865
And did you see Sylvia Likens,
in the basement of that house?

834
01:00:12,865 --> 01:00:14,366
Yes, Sir.

835
01:00:14,366 --> 01:00:16,451
Did you do anything
at all to help her?

836
01:00:16,451 --> 01:00:17,661
No, Sir.

837
01:00:17,661 --> 01:00:20,580
What were the other children,
be doing around the house?

838
01:00:20,997 --> 01:00:22,499
Playing around.

839
01:00:22,749 --> 01:00:24,959
Did you ever tell some of the other
kids that they should come over...

840
01:00:24,959 --> 01:00:28,004
to the house, because everyone
was having fun with Sylvia?

841
01:00:28,004 --> 01:00:30,464
I just thought,
we were punishing her.

842
01:00:30,464 --> 01:00:34,218
Where was John standing,
when he was washing her down.

843
01:00:34,259 --> 01:00:35,427
Right in front of her.

844
01:00:35,427 --> 01:00:37,387
What part of her body
was he spraying?

845
01:00:37,387 --> 01:00:39,681
- All over.
- Who's hose was he using?

846
01:00:39,681 --> 01:00:41,516
It was my hose, Sir.

847
01:00:41,516 --> 01:00:44,894
Sally, did you ever see some of the
other neighborhood kids, hurt Sylvia?

848
01:00:44,894 --> 01:00:46,396
Yes.

849
01:00:47,397 --> 01:00:50,524
Did you tell anybody,
you saw anything?

850
01:00:51,067 --> 01:00:53,193
Not really.

851
01:00:54,028 --> 01:00:58,240
So, you told no one, what was happening
at the Baniszewski's house?

852
01:00:59,032 --> 01:01:00,700
Well, I told my father...

853
01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:03,787
Gertrude gave Sylvia,
an awful whipping.

854
01:01:03,787 --> 01:01:06,331
But, he just told me, I shouldn't
do whatever she did...

855
01:01:06,331 --> 01:01:09,000
or I get the same.

856
01:01:10,001 --> 01:01:11,794
Shirley, was your mother
ever present...

857
01:01:11,794 --> 01:01:14,338
while some of the other people
were doing these things, to Sylvia?

858
01:01:14,338 --> 01:01:16,089
Yes, she was.

859
01:01:16,089 --> 01:01:18,050
How many times?

860
01:01:18,717 --> 01:01:21,052
She was there, just
about all the time.

861
01:01:21,052 --> 01:01:25,265
And what did she say when people
were doing these things, to Sylvia?

862
01:01:26,140 --> 01:01:27,642
Nothing.

863
01:01:33,981 --> 01:01:36,984
Did anyone order you, to hit Sylvia?

864
01:01:37,442 --> 01:01:39,027
No, Sir.

865
01:01:39,027 --> 01:01:41,738
- Or, tie her up?
- No, Sir.

866
01:01:41,738 --> 01:01:43,615
- Or, wash her down?
- No, Sir.

867
01:01:43,615 --> 01:01:45,658
Then, why did you do it, Teddy?

868
01:01:46,409 --> 01:01:48,161
I don't no, Sir.

869
01:01:48,369 --> 01:01:50,329
I don't no, Sir.

870
01:01:50,579 --> 01:01:52,623
I don't no, Sir.

871
01:02:00,213 --> 01:02:02,132
You two, go upstairs.

872
01:02:02,132 --> 01:02:03,883
Yes, Mama.

873
01:02:24,194 --> 01:02:27,572
Paula Baniszewski.
Pregnancy test, Urinalysis.

874
01:02:35,412 --> 01:02:37,372
Who is it?

875
01:02:39,374 --> 01:02:41,459
You got any cigarettes?

876
01:03:00,227 --> 01:03:02,979
Hear anything from Sylvia?

877
01:03:05,189 --> 01:03:07,733
You really like her, don't you?

878
01:03:08,651 --> 01:03:11,529
She's not good for you, Honey.

879
01:03:13,739 --> 01:03:16,283
You know, when she's gonna be back?

880
01:03:18,035 --> 01:03:23,123
Ricky, I told you, she wont
have anything to do with you.

881
01:03:23,498 --> 01:03:26,417
She's to busy with other boys.

882
01:03:27,293 --> 01:03:30,463
That's why I had to
send her to juve.

883
01:03:31,756 --> 01:03:33,340
Hand me that!

884
01:03:36,969 --> 01:03:38,887
- Get!
- Alright, I'll go.

885
01:03:45,101 --> 01:03:46,686
Here's your money.

886
01:03:46,978 --> 01:03:48,938
Thank you, baby.

887
01:03:48,938 --> 01:03:50,439
Paula...

888
01:03:51,941 --> 01:03:56,403
Honey! You are a good daughter,
I'm so proud of you.

889
01:03:57,237 --> 01:04:01,741
It don't matter what people say,
you'd be holdin' your head up high.

890
01:04:02,826 --> 01:04:05,203
We're gettin' through this.

891
01:04:06,579 --> 01:04:09,081
What about Sylvia?

892
01:04:13,252 --> 01:04:15,212
Look...

893
01:04:15,504 --> 01:04:17,839
I've been praying...

894
01:04:18,882 --> 01:04:21,009
and I think, maybe it's time
to forgive her.

895
01:04:21,009 --> 01:04:23,803
I think, she's learned her lesson.

896
01:04:23,970 --> 01:04:27,348
Their are things in life,
we have to do...

897
01:04:27,348 --> 01:04:29,809
whate'er we like it or not.

898
01:04:31,185 --> 01:04:34,396
Well, I don't want any part of it.

899
01:04:35,898 --> 01:04:37,691
Paula.

900
01:04:39,192 --> 01:04:41,194
Paula?

901
01:04:41,194 --> 01:04:44,405
Come down here and talk to me!

902
01:05:08,719 --> 01:05:12,139
Hey, Sylvia? I'm not
gonna hurt you, okay?

903
01:05:12,181 --> 01:05:14,683
I'm not gonna hurt you.

904
01:05:28,946 --> 01:05:32,533
I know what it's like
to be sick, Sylvia.

905
01:05:44,961 --> 01:05:48,131
I've been sick for so long, too.

906
01:05:50,299 --> 01:05:52,635
I can't...

907
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,555
discipline my kids,
the way that I should.

908
01:05:59,891 --> 01:06:03,186
I'm punishing you I known, but...

909
01:06:03,311 --> 01:06:05,271
sometimes, when I take medicine...

910
01:06:05,271 --> 01:06:08,316
it's like, if I don't
know what I'm doing.

911
01:06:14,488 --> 01:06:17,616
And I care for you, so much.

912
01:06:24,664 --> 01:06:27,291
With Paula, the thing is...

913
01:06:28,834 --> 01:06:31,796
Paula is a lot like me.

914
01:06:34,006 --> 01:06:38,260
I had her, when I was,
just about your age.

915
01:06:43,306 --> 01:06:47,101
And then along came, Stephanie...

916
01:06:49,061 --> 01:06:51,730
and then all the others.

917
01:06:55,192 --> 01:06:56,527
And...

918
01:06:56,527 --> 01:06:59,613
then John left.

919
01:07:07,328 --> 01:07:10,122
And here I am, just huh...

920
01:07:12,875 --> 01:07:16,670
doing everything I can,
to keep my Family together.

921
01:07:18,213 --> 01:07:21,466
I want something better for Paula.

922
01:07:26,220 --> 01:07:29,015
There has to be something better.

923
01:07:41,693 --> 01:07:45,363
And I need to protect my children.

924
01:07:48,533 --> 01:07:51,368
Do you understand that?

925
01:07:51,994 --> 01:07:54,163
These kids...

926
01:07:54,830 --> 01:07:57,332
they're all I've got.

927
01:08:16,642 --> 01:08:18,560
Thank you, Sylvia.

928
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,023
Thank you.

929
01:08:24,023 --> 01:08:27,026
Thank you, for understanding, okay?

930
01:08:27,026 --> 01:08:28,569
Thank you.

931
01:08:40,956 --> 01:08:42,082
Oh, lord.

932
01:08:42,624 --> 01:08:44,417
Okay.

933
01:08:48,546 --> 01:08:50,548
Hello, Reverend.

934
01:08:54,385 --> 01:08:55,928
I've been meaning to
come by and visit...

935
01:08:55,928 --> 01:08:58,388
but, when Paula came to the
church and talk to me...

936
01:08:58,388 --> 01:09:00,265
it just pushed me a little.

937
01:09:00,265 --> 01:09:03,726
Now, what's that girl
been bothering you with?

938
01:09:06,145 --> 01:09:10,024
Well, she's concerned about you
and the whole house.

939
01:09:10,024 --> 01:09:14,153
And, huh... there's something else.

940
01:09:14,361 --> 01:09:17,072
I think, Paula may be pregnant.

941
01:09:17,239 --> 01:09:20,325
Now, I'm prepared to offer
what support I can...

942
01:09:20,325 --> 01:09:22,410
but, I can't speak for
the entire congregation.

943
01:09:22,410 --> 01:09:24,078
Reverend, I'm sorry, thank you...

944
01:09:24,078 --> 01:09:28,416
but, it's a vicious lie and rumor...

945
01:09:28,416 --> 01:09:30,418
spread by that Likens' girl.

946
01:09:30,418 --> 01:09:31,585
Gertrude...

947
01:09:31,585 --> 01:09:33,504
Paula, talked to me herself.

948
01:09:33,504 --> 01:09:34,963
Well, Reverend,
I don't understand that.

949
01:09:34,963 --> 01:09:36,798
I'll try to get to the bottom
of that with Paula...

950
01:09:36,798 --> 01:09:40,427
but Sylvia has been a very bad
influence on her...

951
01:09:40,427 --> 01:09:42,595
since she came in to my house.

952
01:09:42,595 --> 01:09:44,430
And I have...

953
01:09:44,430 --> 01:09:46,974
I just can not
discipline that girl.

954
01:09:46,974 --> 01:09:49,477
<i>Well, she did mention,
Sylvia is around...</i>

955
01:09:49,477 --> 01:09:51,896
but wasn't clear, she said
there were some problems...

956
01:09:51,896 --> 01:09:54,440
and I haven't seen Sylvia,
in church in weeks...

957
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:57,234
so I thought, I just should
sit down and talk with her.

958
01:09:57,442 --> 01:10:00,487
I'm afraid, I had to
send her to juvenile.

959
01:10:00,737 --> 01:10:04,157
I just could not handle that girl.

960
01:10:04,157 --> 01:10:05,783
I caught her stealing from me...

961
01:10:05,783 --> 01:10:07,243
Have you spoken with
her parents about this?

962
01:10:07,243 --> 01:10:09,704
I tried, I, huh... I wrote
them, I've called...

963
01:10:09,704 --> 01:10:12,122
I haven't gotten a responds.

964
01:10:12,122 --> 01:10:13,832
Honestly, now I can understand...

965
01:10:13,832 --> 01:10:15,959
why they just dropped
her with me.

966
01:10:15,959 --> 01:10:17,336
I see.

967
01:10:17,336 --> 01:10:19,004
I just can go by the
juvenile center...

968
01:10:19,004 --> 01:10:21,172
and speak to Sylvia myself.

969
01:10:21,172 --> 01:10:23,133
I'll try to arrange that.

970
01:10:23,133 --> 01:10:25,343
- Hi, uncle Bill.
- Hello, Reverend.

971
01:10:25,343 --> 01:10:27,303
Hey, kids.

972
01:10:27,386 --> 01:10:30,306
Why don't you take
little Kenny, please!

973
01:10:30,306 --> 01:10:32,683
We can continue this
discussion later.

974
01:10:32,683 --> 01:10:34,768
Thank you, Reverend.

975
01:10:39,773 --> 01:10:42,192
I'll see you on Sunday then.

976
01:10:42,192 --> 01:10:45,236
<i>I'm excepting you in my
office before the end of the week.</i>

977
01:10:45,236 --> 01:10:47,613
We need to talk about this.

978
01:10:47,864 --> 01:10:49,323
Sure, Reverend.

979
01:10:49,323 --> 01:10:51,242
Okay, Gertrude.

980
01:11:00,750 --> 01:11:02,919
Don't you have any sense?

981
01:11:05,380 --> 01:11:08,925
- I'm doing this for you!
- Let go off me!

982
01:11:15,806 --> 01:11:18,684
I want everybody in the basement!

983
01:11:24,522 --> 01:11:26,190
You know why you're here.

984
01:11:26,190 --> 01:11:28,067
Sylvia!

985
01:11:35,783 --> 01:11:38,702
Ricky, she came back.

986
01:11:38,952 --> 01:11:41,621
She came back from juvenile...

987
01:11:41,621 --> 01:11:44,040
then she started trouble again.

988
01:11:44,123 --> 01:11:45,625
Stop it!

989
01:11:47,585 --> 01:11:49,003
Johnny, hold her!

990
01:11:49,003 --> 01:11:50,546
No, please! Please!

991
01:11:50,546 --> 01:11:52,089
Hold her still!

992
01:11:52,089 --> 01:11:54,466
Sylvia, if you keep moving,
it'll only be messy.

993
01:11:55,259 --> 01:11:56,927
Light that!

994
01:11:56,927 --> 01:12:00,138
No! No! No!

995
01:12:00,138 --> 01:12:02,223
No! No! No!

996
01:12:02,557 --> 01:12:04,976
Please! Please! Please!

997
01:12:05,059 --> 01:12:07,019
- Stop it!
- Is this alright, Mama?

998
01:12:07,019 --> 01:12:09,480
Make sure it's hot.

999
01:12:10,815 --> 01:12:13,108
- I'm sorry! I'm sorry!
- You Liar!

1000
01:12:13,108 --> 01:12:15,319
- No! No!
- Hey!

1001
01:12:15,444 --> 01:12:18,238
Please no! Please!

1002
01:12:20,031 --> 01:12:22,951
You branded my daughter.

1003
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:26,788
Now, I'm gonna brand you.

1004
01:12:35,045 --> 01:12:36,838
Ricky!

1005
01:12:37,256 --> 01:12:39,925
Come here! Finish it!

1006
01:12:41,926 --> 01:12:43,845
Gertie, I can't.

1007
01:12:44,179 --> 01:12:49,725
Ricky, she was with every boy,
but you.

1008
01:12:49,767 --> 01:12:52,102
You can't let her
get away with this.

1009
01:12:54,605 --> 01:12:56,690
Please, help me, Ricky.

1010
01:12:56,732 --> 01:12:58,608
Please! Please!

1011
01:12:58,775 --> 01:13:00,861
Good boy.

1012
01:13:01,903 --> 01:13:03,988
Ricky!

1013
01:13:07,825 --> 01:13:09,660
What does it say?

1014
01:13:10,161 --> 01:13:13,038
It says: "I'm a Prostitute...

1015
01:13:13,956 --> 01:13:15,666
and proud of it".

1016
01:13:21,212 --> 01:13:23,798
NO! NO! Stop it! NO!

1017
01:13:38,061 --> 01:13:40,105
Sylvia.

1018
01:13:41,856 --> 01:13:44,275
You've gotta get outta here.

1019
01:13:44,692 --> 01:13:46,527
You gotta leave.

1020
01:13:46,527 --> 01:13:48,779
You gotta get away
from here, come!

1021
01:13:55,744 --> 01:13:58,080
Oh, I can't...

1022
01:14:03,376 --> 01:14:05,169
Shh...

1023
01:15:06,434 --> 01:15:07,977
Mama?

1024
01:15:10,104 --> 01:15:12,314
- You gotta get outta here!
- I don't no where to go.

1025
01:15:12,314 --> 01:15:14,108
You go find your parents.

1026
01:15:14,108 --> 01:15:15,275
And Jennie?

1027
01:15:15,275 --> 01:15:17,069
Jennie can take care of herself,
don't worry about her.

1028
01:15:17,069 --> 01:15:18,612
Paula?

1029
01:15:18,904 --> 01:15:20,238
No! No!

1030
01:15:20,238 --> 01:15:22,032
Go! Just go!

1031
01:15:22,032 --> 01:15:23,867
What're doing?

1032
01:15:23,992 --> 01:15:26,411
- Just let me go!
- Mama, stop!

1033
01:15:26,411 --> 01:15:28,621
- Stop it!
- What's going on?

1034
01:15:28,621 --> 01:15:30,998
Let's go in the house.

1035
01:15:45,762 --> 01:15:47,472
Sylvia!

1036
01:15:47,722 --> 01:15:50,683
Please, please don't hurt me!

1037
01:15:50,683 --> 01:15:52,434
No, no, no, no,
I'm not gonna hurt.

1038
01:15:52,434 --> 01:15:54,395
I swear to God.
I promise, I promise.

1039
01:15:54,395 --> 01:15:55,646
Look, I'm sorry.

1040
01:15:55,646 --> 01:15:57,731
I didn't know, what the hell
I was doing, alright?

1041
01:15:57,731 --> 01:15:59,900
But, you gotta believe me, please!

1042
01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:01,651
Please!

1043
01:16:02,277 --> 01:16:03,653
You wanna get outta here?

1044
01:16:03,653 --> 01:16:05,697
You wanna go? Let's go.

1045
01:16:05,697 --> 01:16:07,073
Come on.

1046
01:16:07,073 --> 01:16:09,075
Come on now, you're alright.

1047
01:16:13,829 --> 01:16:15,539
Where're we going?

1048
01:16:15,539 --> 01:16:17,416
I don't know.

1049
01:16:17,916 --> 01:16:21,378
Police? You wanna go to the Police?
We can tell'm everything.

1050
01:16:21,461 --> 01:16:23,213
I just wanna go to my mom.

1051
01:16:23,213 --> 01:16:25,006
Where's your mama?

1052
01:16:25,465 --> 01:16:27,717
I think, she's in Portage.

1053
01:16:27,717 --> 01:16:29,927
We're going to Portage.

1054
01:16:31,429 --> 01:16:32,972
Damn it!

1055
01:16:40,187 --> 01:16:42,313
- Ricky?
- Oh my God!

1056
01:16:42,313 --> 01:16:44,190
We're going! We're going!

1057
01:17:08,421 --> 01:17:10,464
I'll come with you.

1058
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,259
No, you gotta get back.

1059
01:17:15,886 --> 01:17:20,098
You gotta get back to Jennie, and
make sure nothing happens to her.

1060
01:17:22,767 --> 01:17:25,478
I wont let her out of my site.

1061
01:17:26,688 --> 01:17:28,689
Thank you, Ricky.

1062
01:18:12,813 --> 01:18:14,356
Daddy?

1063
01:18:16,233 --> 01:18:18,110
Cookie?

1064
01:18:18,318 --> 01:18:19,778
What're you doing here?

1065
01:18:19,778 --> 01:18:21,529
Dad!

1066
01:18:21,905 --> 01:18:24,991
Oh, my...
What happened to you?

1067
01:18:34,375 --> 01:18:36,460
Oh, my God.

1068
01:18:37,502 --> 01:18:39,546
Oh, my God.

1069
01:18:43,883 --> 01:18:46,010
They did this to you?

1070
01:18:49,597 --> 01:18:52,266
I'm so... so sorry.

1071
01:18:52,641 --> 01:18:55,227
I'm just so sorry,
I left you there.

1072
01:18:55,227 --> 01:18:56,895
We spoke to Jennie,
on the phone last week.

1073
01:18:56,895 --> 01:18:58,563
She said everything was fine.

1074
01:18:58,563 --> 01:19:01,107
She's scared of her.

1075
01:19:01,316 --> 01:19:03,318
We gotta go back.

1076
01:19:05,987 --> 01:19:08,406
Let's just talk in the car.

1077
01:19:08,531 --> 01:19:11,700
Everything’s gonna be
taking care of, Cookie.

1078
01:19:11,826 --> 01:19:14,119
You're with your family now.

1079
01:19:14,495 --> 01:19:18,373
Oh, Honey.
Mama's here now.

1080
01:19:24,087 --> 01:19:27,548
Hey, Honey! We're here.

1081
01:19:41,311 --> 01:19:43,313
You stay here, Cookie.

1082
01:19:43,313 --> 01:19:45,356
No, huh...

1083
01:19:47,191 --> 01:19:49,860
I gotta do this.

1084
01:19:51,737 --> 01:19:54,114
I'm just gonna go in.

1085
01:20:25,602 --> 01:20:28,146
She's not breathing, mama.

1086
01:20:28,146 --> 01:20:31,190
She'll wake up, okay?
Don't worry, son.

1087
01:20:31,190 --> 01:20:33,275
Wake up, please!

1088
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:34,735
Stephanie?

1089
01:20:34,735 --> 01:20:37,195
- She's not breathing!
- She's faking it.

1090
01:20:37,195 --> 01:20:39,948
Somebody, please do something!
Because she's not breathing!

1091
01:20:39,948 --> 01:20:42,534
- She's faking it.
- Johnny, bring that water?

1092
01:20:42,534 --> 01:20:45,119
- Bring me some water, baby.
- Give me it!

1093
01:20:45,119 --> 01:20:46,371
She okay?

1094
01:20:46,371 --> 01:20:48,122
Please, somebody,
she's not breathing!

1095
01:20:48,122 --> 01:20:50,958
Liar, liar, liar, liar...

1096
01:20:50,958 --> 01:20:52,918
Mama, she's not faking it!

1097
01:20:52,918 --> 01:20:55,921
She came to my house,
and just told lies.

1098
01:20:55,921 --> 01:20:57,923
Stephanie, what's wrong?

1099
01:20:57,923 --> 01:20:59,758
Mama, we gotta do something!

1100
01:20:59,758 --> 01:21:02,761
Sweetie, mama, she's...

1101
01:21:03,386 --> 01:21:05,680
Please, Sylvia, please breath.

1102
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,765
Sylvia?

1103
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,938
Shirley, she'll be okay,
she'll be okay.

1104
01:21:14,938 --> 01:21:17,441
Somebody's gotta do something!
She's not breathing!

1105
01:21:17,441 --> 01:21:20,735
Shut up, Stephanie! She's lyin'!

1106
01:21:21,027 --> 01:21:23,113
She just lays there.

1107
01:21:23,113 --> 01:21:24,405
Oh, my god.

1108
01:21:24,405 --> 01:21:26,366
Ricky, do something!

1109
01:21:26,699 --> 01:21:28,409
Look out!

1110
01:21:28,701 --> 01:21:30,661
Here, try this.

1111
01:21:30,661 --> 01:21:32,371
Sylvia! Wake up!

1112
01:21:32,371 --> 01:21:33,789
- Come on, breath!
- Paula...

1113
01:21:33,789 --> 01:21:36,875
you go get Andy, baby,
he'll know what to do, okay?

1114
01:21:36,875 --> 01:21:38,585
Wake up, Sylvia!

1115
01:21:38,585 --> 01:21:40,587
She'll be okay,
she's just faking it.

1116
01:21:40,587 --> 01:21:42,213
Please, Sylvia, breath.

1117
01:21:42,213 --> 01:21:43,756
She's cold.

1118
01:21:43,756 --> 01:21:45,466
Somebody better call the police!

1119
01:21:45,466 --> 01:21:47,385
Don't call the police.

1120
01:21:47,385 --> 01:21:49,262
Just go!

1121
01:21:50,262 --> 01:21:52,556
She's not dying!

1122
01:21:52,556 --> 01:21:54,391
I'll go get more water,
colder this time!

1123
01:21:54,391 --> 01:21:57,144
Babies', come here...

1124
01:21:59,438 --> 01:22:01,690
She's lying, baby, She's just...

1125
01:22:01,690 --> 01:22:04,359
Mama, she's not faking it!

1126
01:22:13,450 --> 01:22:14,952
I need the police!

1127
01:22:14,952 --> 01:22:17,621
<i>Yeah, there maybe a
death girl in a house.</i>

1128
01:22:25,753 --> 01:22:27,380
She's dead.

1129
01:22:27,630 --> 01:22:29,632
Jesus Christ, Gertie.

1130
01:22:39,015 --> 01:22:40,767
What's the problem?

1131
01:22:40,767 --> 01:22:43,812
Get me out of here,
I'll tell you everything.

1132
01:22:48,649 --> 01:22:50,985
Jennie, did you ever see...

1133
01:22:50,985 --> 01:22:54,279
Sylvia do anything,
to Mrs. Baniszewski?

1134
01:22:55,781 --> 01:22:59,159
No. I didn't see anything.

1135
01:22:59,743 --> 01:23:02,787
Did you ever see her
do anything, to Paula?

1136
01:23:02,787 --> 01:23:04,706
No.

1137
01:23:05,331 --> 01:23:08,501
Did you ever see her do anything,
to Johnny Baniszewski?

1138
01:23:08,501 --> 01:23:10,419
No.

1139
01:23:13,047 --> 01:23:18,468
Jennie, you saw your
sister being hit...

1140
01:23:19,094 --> 01:23:21,179
beaten, struck.

1141
01:23:21,179 --> 01:23:24,265
Why did you not call the police?

1142
01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:28,603
Well, huh... Gertie dreaded me,
that if I told anybody...

1143
01:23:28,603 --> 01:23:31,272
I'd get the same treatment,
than Sylvia was getting.

1144
01:23:32,106 --> 01:23:35,234
You could have told anyone,
up and down on the street.

1145
01:23:35,734 --> 01:23:40,155
I was scared, and I guess,
I just...

1146
01:23:40,405 --> 01:23:44,450
did what she told me to do.
I wish, I hadn't.

1147
01:23:49,247 --> 01:23:51,749
Did you ever see Sylvia cry?

1148
01:23:58,547 --> 01:24:01,341
They said, she didn't
have any feelings...

1149
01:24:01,341 --> 01:24:04,093
but... I knew better.

1150
01:24:05,762 --> 01:24:09,223
I've seen her cry before.

1151
01:24:10,057 --> 01:24:14,520
I imagine, the reason
that she didn't cry, was...

1152
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,898
because she didn't
have enough water.

1153
01:24:20,150 --> 01:24:23,236
<i>The trial lasted 24 days.</i>

1154
01:24:23,319 --> 01:24:26,531
Gertrude was the last
one to take the stand.

1155
01:24:26,531 --> 01:24:32,161
What was your physical condition
in July and August of last year?

1156
01:24:34,580 --> 01:24:37,207
Pretty run down, physically.

1157
01:24:37,791 --> 01:24:40,293
Pretty upset, mentally and emotionally.

1158
01:24:40,293 --> 01:24:42,379
What do you mean?

1159
01:24:43,421 --> 01:24:47,216
If you got as many children...

1160
01:24:47,425 --> 01:24:51,929
around your home,
all the time, as I do...

1161
01:24:51,929 --> 01:24:54,181
arguing and carrying on...

1162
01:24:54,181 --> 01:24:57,601
you'd be pretty upset,
mentally and emotionally too.

1163
01:24:57,601 --> 01:24:59,853
What medicine did you take?

1164
01:24:59,853 --> 01:25:03,648
Phenobarbital Sulfate,
and Coricidin.

1165
01:25:03,648 --> 01:25:06,609
I was trying to take
care of myself...

1166
01:25:06,609 --> 01:25:09,820
because I could not
afford to go to a doctor.

1167
01:25:10,029 --> 01:25:14,408
<i>Well, then, getting to
the 1st, week of September.</i>

1168
01:25:14,408 --> 01:25:17,536
Was there any change in your
physical condition...

1169
01:25:17,536 --> 01:25:19,955
or in the condition of that house?

1170
01:25:23,416 --> 01:25:25,335
No, Sir.

1171
01:25:25,585 --> 01:25:27,336
<i>What about the 3rd. week
of September...</i>

1172
01:25:27,336 --> 01:25:28,838
do you remember that?

1173
01:25:28,838 --> 01:25:31,882
You mean anything specific that
might happened in September?

1174
01:25:31,882 --> 01:25:34,218
Yes, anything specific.

1175
01:25:34,218 --> 01:25:36,178
The kids were fighting a lot.

1176
01:25:36,178 --> 01:25:38,847
The kids were fighting a lot?

1177
01:25:39,264 --> 01:25:42,183
My children and the
neighbor children...

1178
01:25:42,183 --> 01:25:44,894
were coming in,
and fight things over it.

1179
01:25:44,894 --> 01:25:49,565
My children fighting with other
children, so on and so fort.

1180
01:25:49,565 --> 01:25:52,193
What did you do,
when that was happening?

1181
01:25:53,944 --> 01:25:57,072
I did not see this, fighting then.

1182
01:25:57,281 --> 01:26:00,492
I was barely able to stay up at all.

1183
01:26:00,492 --> 01:26:03,995
I did not even feel
like getting up.

1184
01:26:04,662 --> 01:26:07,582
Did you have any knowledge,
of any mistreatment...

1185
01:26:07,582 --> 01:26:09,583
going on with Sylvia?

1186
01:26:11,210 --> 01:26:13,379
No, Sir.

1187
01:26:13,379 --> 01:26:18,467
Did you commit any indignity,
making marks on that girls body?

1188
01:26:19,259 --> 01:26:21,469
No, Sir.

1189
01:26:21,469 --> 01:26:24,264
Do you know, how those
wounds, got on her body?

1190
01:26:24,305 --> 01:26:25,974
No, Sir.

1191
01:26:25,974 --> 01:26:29,226
You're telling the Jury,
you don't know who did it?

1192
01:26:31,103 --> 01:26:33,355
No.

1193
01:26:35,065 --> 01:26:37,567
Did you hear the testimony of Jennie?

1194
01:26:38,026 --> 01:26:39,736
Yes, I did.

1195
01:26:39,736 --> 01:26:42,238
Did you hear, some of
your children state...

1196
01:26:42,238 --> 01:26:46,159
that before Sylvia died,
you started branding this girl?

1197
01:26:48,369 --> 01:26:50,121
Yes, I heard that.

1198
01:26:50,246 --> 01:26:52,122
Did they all lie?

1199
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,172
That is right.

1200
01:27:01,172 --> 01:27:04,425
The fact is you're lying, isn't it?

1201
01:27:04,968 --> 01:27:07,303
No, Sir.

1202
01:27:10,014 --> 01:27:12,516
Did you hear John Baniszewski state...

1203
01:27:12,516 --> 01:27:16,853
that you burned her,
with matches and cigarettes?

1204
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:20,565
Yes, I heard that statement.

1205
01:27:20,565 --> 01:27:23,026
Did he tell the truth?

1206
01:27:27,488 --> 01:27:30,241
He was not telling the truth.

1207
01:27:30,241 --> 01:27:32,368
No.

1208
01:27:34,328 --> 01:27:37,164
You're saying, you did not do it?

1209
01:27:38,123 --> 01:27:39,541
That's right.

1210
01:27:39,541 --> 01:27:41,251
You were in bed,
a great deal of the time...

1211
01:27:41,251 --> 01:27:44,170
when the children were doing things,
you did not know, they were doing.

1212
01:27:44,170 --> 01:27:46,839
I imagine they were doing
a great deal of things...

1213
01:27:46,839 --> 01:27:48,216
that I did not know.

1214
01:27:48,216 --> 01:27:50,426
Why did Johnny lie?

1215
01:27:52,303 --> 01:27:55,472
I imagine, he is a pretty
scared little boy.

1216
01:27:55,472 --> 01:27:57,266
Are you scared?

1217
01:27:59,434 --> 01:28:03,646
I've been scared by a lot
of things, for a long time.

1218
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:08,025
She sacrificed me,
to protect her children...

1219
01:28:08,025 --> 01:28:11,612
and sacrificed them,
to protect herself.

1220
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:35,926
Will the accused, please rise!

1221
01:28:48,312 --> 01:28:51,649
We, the Jury, find
Gertrude Baniszewski...

1222
01:28:51,649 --> 01:28:53,901
guilty of 1st. degree murder...

1223
01:28:53,901 --> 01:28:56,695
sentencing her to life in prison.

1224
01:29:05,787 --> 01:29:08,247
The case got a lot of attention...

1225
01:29:09,624 --> 01:29:12,418
it even made Time Magazine.

1226
01:29:18,173 --> 01:29:19,758
And most people started talking...

1227
01:29:19,758 --> 01:29:22,552
about things, they used to ignore.

1228
01:29:23,803 --> 01:29:25,054
Thank you.

1229
01:29:25,054 --> 01:29:27,432
The others, were tried later.

1230
01:29:27,432 --> 01:29:29,475
Paula was found guilty
as an accomplice...

1231
01:29:29,475 --> 01:29:31,644
and served a couple of years.

1232
01:29:31,644 --> 01:29:35,272
She had that Baby,
and named it, Gertrude.

1233
01:29:35,481 --> 01:29:37,858
Johnny was convicted too.

1234
01:29:37,858 --> 01:29:39,359
He was the youngest inmate...

1235
01:29:39,359 --> 01:29:42,570
in the history, of the
Indiana State Reformatory.

1236
01:29:42,570 --> 01:29:45,073
He would later become
a real Minister.

1237
01:29:45,073 --> 01:29:47,241
one way of telling
the story, I guess.

1238
01:29:47,617 --> 01:29:50,119
Ricky Hobbs, was found
guilty of man-slaughter...

1239
01:29:50,119 --> 01:29:53,372
he served time at the reformatory.

1240
01:29:53,372 --> 01:29:57,626
<i>He died at age 21,
of lung cancer.</i>

1241
01:29:58,585 --> 01:30:01,379
Coy, also served a couple of years...

1242
01:30:01,546 --> 01:30:03,381
He went on with a life of crime...

1243
01:30:03,381 --> 01:30:06,009
after he got released from prison.

1244
01:30:06,384 --> 01:30:09,845
I don't know, what happened,
to any of the rest of them.

1245
01:30:10,638 --> 01:30:12,598
Mom und Dad, went back on Tour...

1246
01:30:12,598 --> 01:30:16,101
<i>and left Jennie, with the
District Attorney and his Family.</i>

1247
01:30:16,101 --> 01:30:18,645
They helped her get back on her feet.

1248
01:30:21,606 --> 01:30:25,026
<i>Gertrude served 20 years
of her life sentence.</i>

1249
01:30:25,026 --> 01:30:28,779
She was released on parole in 1985.

1250
01:30:29,572 --> 01:30:32,741
Before she died 5 years later...

1251
01:30:32,741 --> 01:30:36,578
she took responsibility, for
everything that had happened.

1252
01:30:50,758 --> 01:30:53,010
I'm so sorry.

1253
01:31:03,728 --> 01:31:05,647
And me?

1254
01:31:07,231 --> 01:31:10,192
I returned to the carnival.

1255
01:31:10,651 --> 01:31:13,737
The only place, I always felt save.

1256
01:31:16,698 --> 01:31:19,284
Reverend Bill, used to say:

1257
01:31:19,284 --> 01:31:23,163
"For every situation,
God always has a plan".

1258
01:31:25,456 --> 01:31:29,919
I guess, I'm still trying
to figure out, what that plan was.