1 00:01:48,180 --> 00:01:51,411 DOCTOR: Pressure's dropping. Let's keep that fluid going in , please. 2 00:02:04,660 --> 00:02:06,616 Seven milligrams. 3 00:02:08,780 --> 00:02:11,578 Losing his output. Can we have two more units of O-neg? 4 00:02:13,660 --> 00:02:15,696 Keep that fluid going. 5 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:24,418 Right. lt's coming up now. 6 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:26,570 - This is where you went out? - Yeah. 7 00:02:26,660 --> 00:02:28,810 This camera covers the main hospital car park. 8 00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:40,289 Can we stop CPR please? 9 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:46,494 No output. 10 00:02:47,620 --> 00:02:50,851 - l think we should stop. Does everyone agree? - Yeah. 11 00:02:50,940 --> 00:02:53,170 Thank you very much everybody. 12 00:03:13,540 --> 00:03:17,852 LESTER: Mate he went down One shot Out of it 13 00:03:19,380 --> 00:03:21,052 See his face? 14 00:03:21,140 --> 00:03:24,052 Ooh, what? And he was down . 15 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:43,857 Back to the nick. 16 00:03:49,540 --> 00:03:51,496 - Shit 17 00:03:51,580 --> 00:03:53,172 Fuck 18 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:56,256 Oh no 19 00:04:20,340 --> 00:04:22,296 Come on . Come on . 20 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:25,577 - Check Penny's house. Call her parents. - Yes, guv. 21 00:04:25,660 --> 00:04:28,538 Oh, yeah. l want two armed response units as soon as possible. 22 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:32,134 Yes, of course l understand the implications. 23 00:04:54,780 --> 00:04:57,374 l don 't need to tell you Bill Otley was a good copper. 24 00:05:03,740 --> 00:05:05,458 Curtis Flynn . 25 00:05:05,540 --> 00:05:07,496 He's 20 years old. 26 00:05:07,580 --> 00:05:10,174 Shooting like this is a whole new league for him. 27 00:05:10,260 --> 00:05:14,094 He's volatlle and we can assume he's extremely dangerous 28 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:16,136 As far as we know, he's still armed. 29 00:05:16,220 --> 00:05:18,450 - Are you OK? - Yeah. 30 00:05:18,540 --> 00:05:21,213 Yeah. l'm fine. l just want to get things started. 31 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:24,815 OK. Let's have a look at the hospital CCTV. 32 00:05:32,020 --> 00:05:35,092 TENNlSON : Curtis approached me in the hospital car park 33 00:05:35,180 --> 00:05:39,617 He was very aggressive and produced a gun when l went to arrest him. 34 00:05:41,580 --> 00:05:44,811 He was distracted by the arrival of Penny 35 00:05:44,900 --> 00:05:47,016 Penny Phllips is a 1 4-year-old girI 36 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:49,170 She's a friend of Sallie Sturdy's 37 00:05:50,380 --> 00:05:51,972 This was just before Bill arrived. 38 00:05:57,700 --> 00:05:59,656 Blll challenged Curtis 39 00:06:00,700 --> 00:06:02,656 And that's when Curtis shot him 40 00:06:22,220 --> 00:06:23,812 OK. l'll take a look at that, Danny. 41 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:28,570 Do we know if Curtis is the father of Sallie Sturdy's baby? 42 00:06:28,660 --> 00:06:32,255 No, we haven 't got a DNA cross-match yet, but it's expected at any moment. 43 00:06:32,340 --> 00:06:34,570 Now Curtis is armed and dangerous 44 00:06:34,660 --> 00:06:37,970 There is a real possibility of him taking Penny hostage. 45 00:06:38,060 --> 00:06:40,415 ls Penny a witness or an accessory? 46 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:43,458 l believe Penny Philips may have saved my life. 47 00:07:03,260 --> 00:07:06,411 - Come on ! Come on ! - What are you doing? l'm going home. 48 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:08,616 No way. Not after this. 49 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:10,656 They'll track this. 50 00:07:10,740 --> 00:07:12,696 Come on , man . 51 00:07:17,260 --> 00:07:19,216 Who's this man Penny's with? 52 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:22,531 He's a young career criminal. Wanted for murder. 53 00:07:22,620 --> 00:07:24,611 - His name's Curtis Flynn . - Curtis Flynn ? 54 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:27,419 - He's an ex-pupil of mine. SlMMS: Shot a man dead last night 55 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:29,855 Penny was with him during the shooting. 56 00:07:30,940 --> 00:07:32,339 Penny? 57 00:07:32,420 --> 00:07:34,376 l know Curtis. 58 00:07:34,460 --> 00:07:36,690 - Did she call you? - Has Penny got a mobile phone? 59 00:07:36,780 --> 00:07:37,849 Yeah. 60 00:07:44,260 --> 00:07:46,820 - Hey it 's Penny - lt's straight on to voicemail. 61 00:07:50,860 --> 00:07:52,452 PENNY: Oww! 62 00:07:57,620 --> 00:07:59,258 CURTlS: Come on ! 63 00:07:59,340 --> 00:08:00,898 ls this girl being serious? 64 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:03,619 - Curtis, what's the matter? - Just shut up! Close the door! 65 00:08:04,860 --> 00:08:06,771 My sister. 66 00:08:15,580 --> 00:08:17,810 Destiny, go back to bed. 67 00:08:17,900 --> 00:08:18,810 Destiny! 68 00:08:20,340 --> 00:08:22,376 She ain 't mine. She's my niece! 69 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:33,413 All right, guys. This care home we're going into is full of girls, so tread carefully. Good luck. 70 00:08:40,140 --> 00:08:42,096 OFFlCER: Get out Go on GlRL: Oww! 71 00:08:42,180 --> 00:08:44,978 OFFlCER: Out Get out 72 00:08:45,060 --> 00:08:46,732 Get out! 73 00:08:53,940 --> 00:08:55,498 GlRL: Don 't touch me! 74 00:08:56,460 --> 00:08:57,779 Lester! 75 00:08:57,860 --> 00:09:00,215 Lester! Get him! 76 00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:04,578 - What are you doing? LESTER: Get off me! Get off! 77 00:09:04,660 --> 00:09:07,379 - What drainpipe did you crawl up? - Are you crazy or what? 78 00:09:07,460 --> 00:09:11,931 - Where is he, Lester? Where is he now? - l don 't know. Get off! 79 00:09:12,020 --> 00:09:14,375 lt's no use. l'm going to look for her. 80 00:09:14,460 --> 00:09:16,371 - l'd ask you not... - l'm not waiting here. 81 00:09:16,460 --> 00:09:18,416 Sir you've been asked to stay... 82 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:11,216 There you go. 83 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:15,771 - l don 't like that water. - You're lucky you're getting any. Stupid girl! 84 00:10:15,860 --> 00:10:19,899 - Curtis, l've got a cash card. l can get money. - Don 't you realise they're looking for you? 85 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:23,290 Just shut up! Shut your mouth. 86 00:10:26,140 --> 00:10:28,256 Where's the drink? 87 00:10:40,700 --> 00:10:42,452 Bitch! 88 00:11:28,180 --> 00:11:30,648 - Curtis, let us out. - They're gonna try and kill me. 89 00:11:32,140 --> 00:11:34,893 Those pigs are gonna try and kill me. 90 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:38,290 l don 't know where he is, man ! l don 't know where he is. 91 00:11:39,380 --> 00:11:41,018 Get off me! 92 00:11:41,100 --> 00:11:43,853 - Get off! - Calm down . 93 00:11:43,940 --> 00:11:46,374 - Listen , we're just asking questions. - Where is he? 94 00:12:13,540 --> 00:12:14,734 Penny! 95 00:12:16,180 --> 00:12:17,533 Penny! 96 00:12:18,860 --> 00:12:20,418 Pen ! Penny! 97 00:12:33,740 --> 00:12:35,298 Shh. Shh. 98 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:40,456 lt's OK. 99 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:54,689 Curtis is at his sister's, isn 't he? 100 00:12:56,260 --> 00:12:57,818 How did you know? 101 00:12:57,900 --> 00:12:59,458 l remember from school. 102 00:12:59,540 --> 00:13:01,292 He stayed there a lot. 103 00:13:09,660 --> 00:13:11,218 What do you make of that blood, then ? 104 00:13:12,260 --> 00:13:14,410 Guv? Guv? 105 00:13:15,460 --> 00:13:18,657 - What do we do now? - Oh, just give me a moment, would you? 106 00:13:18,740 --> 00:13:20,696 OK. 107 00:13:22,820 --> 00:13:25,732 She's gonna tell the police. That bitch is gonna tell 'em. 108 00:13:25,820 --> 00:13:27,936 - Fucking pigs - They'll have guns. 109 00:13:28,020 --> 00:13:30,295 - Let 'em. Let 'em bring their guns. -No. 110 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:35,333 - Do as you're told. Just do as you're told. 111 00:13:43,980 --> 00:13:45,811 So, what about known associates? 112 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:48,972 -No, we've been through them all, guv. - Well, go through them again . 113 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:50,971 Their known haunts if not Curtis's. 114 00:13:57,260 --> 00:13:58,488 Guv'nor? 115 00:14:01,140 --> 00:14:02,937 Oh, Penny! 116 00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:05,899 Oh, Penny. 117 00:14:05,980 --> 00:14:08,972 - Thank God you're all right. - lt just happened too fast. 118 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:14,696 - Curtis...and your friend... l tried to stop him. - Where is he? Where did you leave him? 119 00:14:14,780 --> 00:14:16,736 - He took me back to this flat. - Where is it? 120 00:14:16,820 --> 00:14:18,651 - Do you know where it is? - l just... 121 00:14:18,740 --> 00:14:21,254 - Where is it? - lt's his sister's flat. 122 00:14:21,340 --> 00:14:24,252 - On the Brackford estate behind the shops. - What's her name? 123 00:14:24,340 --> 00:14:27,889 Vanessa. Vanessa Flynn . She tried to look after Curtis when the mother... 124 00:14:27,980 --> 00:14:30,175 - What number is it? - l'm sorry. 125 00:14:31,140 --> 00:14:33,370 l'll need to speak to Penny later, OK? 126 00:14:33,460 --> 00:14:35,530 - His sister's there. - Hmm? 127 00:14:35,620 --> 00:14:37,178 And her little girl. 128 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:22,778 Your cleaning job, it's at a pub, right? 129 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:26,489 - Where do they keep the money? - l don 't know. 130 00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:31,729 My belly is hurting. l need to shit. 131 00:15:31,820 --> 00:15:34,732 What you looking at? Watch the TV, man ! 132 00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:35,775 Destiny. 133 00:15:35,860 --> 00:15:39,489 ldiot. Stupid brat. 134 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:44,610 OFFlCER: Door Hit it 135 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:46,338 ln ! 136 00:16:46,420 --> 00:16:48,490 - Armed police! - Get down ! 137 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:52,255 - Police! Everybody get down ! - Destiny. 138 00:17:03,620 --> 00:17:05,178 Hello. What's your name? 139 00:17:07,340 --> 00:17:09,410 VANESSA: Put the gun down Destiny 140 00:17:10,460 --> 00:17:13,179 Put the gun down baby 141 00:17:19,220 --> 00:17:20,858 Had your breakfast yet? 142 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:33,934 You're not going to take that to school, are you? 143 00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:36,538 VANESSA: Destiny 144 00:17:41,900 --> 00:17:43,538 No. 145 00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:45,099 No. 146 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:48,692 Do you want to give it to me? 147 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:54,056 Thank you . 148 00:17:56,580 --> 00:17:58,138 All right. 149 00:17:58,220 --> 00:18:00,734 Let's go down with your mummy, all right? 150 00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:07,055 - We will need an ambulance. 151 00:18:08,140 --> 00:18:10,700 - Come here! 152 00:18:30,740 --> 00:18:33,493 What the fuck is she doing? 153 00:18:47,940 --> 00:18:51,615 - What's the hospital saying? - Shoulder wound, mainly. He'll survive. 154 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:53,816 Lets hope that little girl does. 155 00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:56,697 We've got the DNA result back. 156 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:57,690 And? 157 00:18:57,780 --> 00:18:59,771 Curtis isn 't the father. 158 00:18:59,860 --> 00:19:00,895 What? 159 00:19:00,980 --> 00:19:04,609 Curtis is not the father of Sallie's baby. 160 00:19:07,620 --> 00:19:09,178 - How...? - Boss? 161 00:19:09,260 --> 00:19:10,375 Boss? 162 00:19:10,460 --> 00:19:13,213 - Mm? - I think you should come and take a look at this 163 00:19:17,260 --> 00:19:19,251 Curtis crashes here a lot. His bolt hole. 164 00:19:19,340 --> 00:19:21,137 He sleeps in here. 165 00:19:23,340 --> 00:19:25,376 That bag fits our description of Sallie 's 166 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:32,573 Right, we'll need a positive lD on that from Sallie's mum or dad straightaway. 167 00:19:32,660 --> 00:19:33,456 Mm-hm. 168 00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:36,418 - Curtis isn 't the father. - Yeah, l just heard. 169 00:19:37,460 --> 00:19:39,132 Then why would he kill Sallie? 170 00:19:40,860 --> 00:19:46,093 Destiny, this is Kerry. Would you take her and show her your mum's bedroom? 171 00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:50,098 Thank you 172 00:20:01,780 --> 00:20:03,293 What's this bag doing here? 173 00:20:03,380 --> 00:20:05,291 l don 't know. 174 00:20:05,380 --> 00:20:08,417 Young girls were always coming round to see Curtis. 175 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:10,172 Do you recognise this girl? 176 00:20:11,860 --> 00:20:14,374 Is that the girI that was murdered? 177 00:20:14,460 --> 00:20:15,734 Yes. 178 00:20:15,820 --> 00:20:18,812 - And you think Curtis done it? - He's a suspect. 179 00:20:19,860 --> 00:20:22,215 Was she here often ? 180 00:20:23,300 --> 00:20:25,530 After school, they'd be in there. 181 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:31,336 That teacher...Mister Philips, the head, 182 00:20:31,420 --> 00:20:34,173 he came up here one day but she told him to beat it 183 00:20:35,540 --> 00:20:37,098 They had a shouting match 184 00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:40,058 - What, Sallie and Mister Philips? - Out there on the balcony. 185 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:44,292 - What were they arguing about? - He didn 't like her hanging out with my brother ? 186 00:20:44,380 --> 00:20:47,577 - When was this? - About two months ago. 187 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:56,049 Jane? 188 00:21:01,940 --> 00:21:03,737 Can you hang on for a minute, Traynor? 189 00:21:08,060 --> 00:21:10,528 You are a highly experienced police officer 190 00:21:10,620 --> 00:21:13,930 You knew how to diffuse this situation but it seems to me you escalate it 191 00:21:14,020 --> 00:21:16,011 Seems you deliberately provoke him 192 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:18,056 Curtis pulls out a gun and 193 00:21:18,140 --> 00:21:21,530 - The situation could not be diffused. - He wasn 't high he wasn 't on drugs 194 00:21:21,620 --> 00:21:24,418 - lt takes a 1 4-year-old girl to diffuse it. - l shot Bill, did l? 195 00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:26,456 Don 't be like that, just... 196 00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:30,292 Were you frightened? 197 00:21:32,220 --> 00:21:33,175 No. 198 00:21:34,220 --> 00:21:36,495 Jane, do yourself a favour. 199 00:21:36,580 --> 00:21:38,889 Do l need to? Should l have a lawyer present? 200 00:21:38,980 --> 00:21:42,575 l'm trying to avoid problems, not create them. Defence will use these tapes. 201 00:21:42,660 --> 00:21:44,412 We don 't know how many copies there are 202 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:46,616 We don 't know if the media have got hold of them 203 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:49,498 Jane, l've got to ask the question ... Were you sober? 204 00:21:52,220 --> 00:21:55,690 l was visiting someone who was ill in hospital. 205 00:21:55,780 --> 00:21:57,657 - ls that a yes or a no? - What do you think? 206 00:21:57,740 --> 00:22:00,971 - l appreciate that this is difficult. - Yes, thank you . So it has been . 207 00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:04,455 Now, if you'll excuse me, l'll get back to work. 208 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:06,098 Unless you don 't want me to. 209 00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:15,656 Traynor ? 210 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:26,015 She was visiting her dad at hospital. He died last night. 211 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,819 Oh, Christ! 212 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:33,416 See, why doesn 't she just...? 213 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:38,493 Even the smallest thing, she doesn 't tell anyone. l mean , ordinary, human ... 214 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:42,299 - Did you know her father was lll -No. 215 00:22:42,380 --> 00:22:43,529 No 216 00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:46,178 Old school. That's Tennison . 217 00:22:46,260 --> 00:22:48,854 On the force, what, 30, 35 years? 218 00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:50,931 Battered, burnt out. 219 00:22:51,980 --> 00:22:53,015 Dinosaurs. 220 00:22:54,140 --> 00:22:57,291 What do you they do when they leave? They drink themselves to death 221 00:23:00,620 --> 00:23:03,214 Just stay close to her, Danny, yeah? 222 00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:04,653 Sir. 223 00:23:11,940 --> 00:23:14,329 TRAYNOR: Guv? 224 00:23:20,020 --> 00:23:22,488 Look, l'm very sorry...about your dad. 225 00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:26,458 Yeah. Thanks. 226 00:23:30,860 --> 00:23:32,816 So, what have they decided? 227 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:34,891 Well, you carry on . 228 00:23:38,780 --> 00:23:40,736 Good. 229 00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:49,250 And you get to baby-sit. 230 00:24:57,340 --> 00:25:01,049 So, Curtis Flynn is still under sedation , so we can 't interview him, 231 00:25:01,140 --> 00:25:04,018 but that gives us time to get Forensics on to Sallie's kitbag. 232 00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,660 But we've got the foetal DNA. 233 00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:12,332 Curtis Flynn is not the father of Sallie's baby. 234 00:25:13,740 --> 00:25:16,208 Neither is Tony Sturdy 235 00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:20,532 But, listen . Listen , l'm not convinced that Curtis is our only suspect. 236 00:25:20,620 --> 00:25:25,455 His sister saw Sean Philips arguing with Sallie outside her flat. 237 00:25:25,540 --> 00:25:27,132 Quite violently. 238 00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:30,178 Look, l want you to have a look at this. See what you think. 239 00:25:36,940 --> 00:25:40,853 This is Sean Phllips congratulating Sallie on a basketball win 240 00:25:42,660 --> 00:25:44,093 There 241 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,972 Rather enthusiastic, don 't you think? 242 00:25:53,060 --> 00:25:54,618 Mm, definitely. 243 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:57,339 - So he was screwing her? TENNlSON : It 's a possibllity 244 00:25:57,420 --> 00:26:00,253 So she gets pregnant 245 00:26:00,340 --> 00:26:02,649 He doesn 't want to know. She thinks, ''l'll show you . 246 00:26:02,740 --> 00:26:05,652 l'll go from being your sexual fantasy to your worst nightmare.'' 247 00:26:05,740 --> 00:26:08,812 She goes completely off the rails. She threatens to tell everyone. 248 00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:16,370 l want everything we can on Sean Philips. His sexual history. His marriage... 249 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:21,215 - Get on to it immediately - Sanctimonious pricks. What did l tell you? 250 00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:24,417 - Eh ? - You did, Taff. You did. 251 00:26:25,460 --> 00:26:29,738 Penny's coming in to give a witness statement on Bill Otley's shooting, so... 252 00:26:29,820 --> 00:26:32,254 Good. Well, we'll see her in the soft suite. 253 00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:34,615 - OK. - And let's get Sean Philips in as well. 254 00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:37,696 They'll think he's just there because of her. 255 00:26:39,780 --> 00:26:41,372 Come through here. 256 00:26:41,460 --> 00:26:43,416 Penny, why don 't you sit down ? 257 00:26:45,820 --> 00:26:49,369 Just that Penny may be called to give evidence about the shooting, 258 00:26:49,460 --> 00:26:54,011 so we thought maybe it would be a good idea to go over again what happened that night. 259 00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:56,773 Your part in what happened. OK? 260 00:26:56,860 --> 00:26:58,816 OK. 261 00:27:00,020 --> 00:27:01,976 Where do you want me to start? 262 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:06,976 Er... Well, why were you at the hospital? 263 00:27:11,140 --> 00:27:13,096 We were there because of Curtis's leg. 264 00:27:13,180 --> 00:27:16,331 TRAYNOR: And you were there with a group of friends yeah ? 265 00:27:16,420 --> 00:27:17,899 Yeah. 266 00:27:19,860 --> 00:27:21,418 It's just 267 00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:24,060 lsaw him following you . 268 00:27:24,140 --> 00:27:26,290 lsaw him threaten you . 269 00:27:30,620 --> 00:27:32,770 He was so angry. 270 00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,136 lneeded to get him out of there. 271 00:27:36,220 --> 00:27:37,972 So he ran . 272 00:27:38,060 --> 00:27:39,812 l followed. 273 00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:42,414 Why? Why did you run after him? 274 00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:44,252 l don 't really know. 275 00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,212 I thought I could 276 00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:52,451 l thought l could keep him away. 277 00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:56,740 Why do you think Curtis listened to you? 278 00:27:57,780 --> 00:27:59,498 l don 't know. 279 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:05,889 He just came cos l wanted him to. 280 00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:10,977 Now, listen , Penny... 281 00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:13,932 ..if you're called as a witness, 282 00:28:14,020 --> 00:28:17,535 then they're going to ask you some questions - some difficult questions. 283 00:28:17,620 --> 00:28:20,088 So l want to be the one who asks you first. 284 00:28:20,180 --> 00:28:21,738 OK. 285 00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:25,573 - All right? - OK. 286 00:28:29,260 --> 00:28:31,455 ls Curtis your boyfriend? 287 00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:34,971 Sort of. 288 00:28:35,060 --> 00:28:36,618 Do you have sex? 289 00:28:38,460 --> 00:28:40,212 Not sex, but... 290 00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:45,854 Does she have to spell it out ? 291 00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:49,899 We need to know how Penny will answer. lt will influence if we call her as a witness or not. 292 00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:52,015 OK. 293 00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:55,378 Was Curtis sleeping with Sallie? 294 00:28:55,460 --> 00:28:57,178 l don 't think so. 295 00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:07,248 Sallie spent a lot of time with Curtis, at his sister's flat. Do you know Vanessa's flat? 296 00:29:07,340 --> 00:29:09,535 Were you aware of that? 297 00:29:09,620 --> 00:29:10,973 No. 298 00:29:15,660 --> 00:29:17,730 No, but you knew about that, Sean , didn 't you? 299 00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,649 Because you were seen arguing with Sallie on the balcony outside. 300 00:29:30,460 --> 00:29:33,816 Yes. Sallie had been missing basketball. 301 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:37,176 l was worried that she was going down the same road as Curtis. 302 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:41,050 Basketball? That's what that was about? 303 00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:42,778 Mm. 304 00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:51,214 Well, l appreciate how important basketball is, but it's just that you never mentioned it before. 305 00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:54,337 lt would have been very helpful to our investigation if we'd known 306 00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:57,378 that Sallie was spending time in Curtis's bolt hole. 307 00:29:59,940 --> 00:30:01,976 Yeah, l can see that now. 308 00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:06,895 Well, in retrospect, that was a mistake. lshould have mentioned it. 309 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:15,092 Let's look at the school rolls. 310 00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:18,889 Crosscheck any of Sallie's absence's with any of Mr Philips's. 311 00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:21,699 They must keep some kind of attendance record for teachers. 312 00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:28,969 She's holding something back. 313 00:30:29,060 --> 00:30:32,496 TRAYNOR: About dad? - Mm 314 00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:35,491 Have you got kids? 315 00:30:35,580 --> 00:30:38,731 - Yeah. Two girls. -Never lie to them. 316 00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:40,856 They always know when you're lying. 317 00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:03,938 Penny? Penny! 318 00:31:22,540 --> 00:31:24,496 lt's your mum. 319 00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:29,178 Hello? 320 00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:31,216 Penny are you OK? 321 00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:33,256 Yeah. l'm fine, thanks. 322 00:31:33,340 --> 00:31:35,376 Darling I want you back here straight away 323 00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:37,974 - Please - Look, l'm not coming home tonight, OK? 324 00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:39,095 Penny 325 00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:41,169 Penny? 326 00:31:43,940 --> 00:31:46,215 They're so freaked out. 327 00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:49,896 Don 't even care. 328 00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:52,777 l'm not going home. 329 00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:22,088 Yes. They're Sallie's. 330 00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:25,691 No, um... 331 00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:27,532 They're my daughter's. 332 00:32:27,620 --> 00:32:29,372 l'm afraid they're evidence now. 333 00:32:36,460 --> 00:32:38,098 What about the pendant? 334 00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:40,136 ls that there? 335 00:32:40,220 --> 00:32:42,256 The cross? Sallie's cross? 336 00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:45,018 No, there's no sign of that. 337 00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:15,329 l can still smell her...in the house. 338 00:33:18,980 --> 00:33:22,336 Do you ever hear that song Smells Like Teen Spirit ? 339 00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:24,570 l don 't know what it's about. l don 't... 340 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:31,609 That's what goes through my head, that... 341 00:33:33,980 --> 00:33:36,255 She's er... 342 00:33:37,340 --> 00:33:40,252 This...is what's gone. 343 00:33:41,740 --> 00:33:43,696 That hope. 344 00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:46,536 Hope. 345 00:33:50,620 --> 00:33:52,576 That's what he destroyed. 346 00:33:52,660 --> 00:33:54,696 That's what Sean Philips took away. 347 00:33:56,740 --> 00:33:58,378 Hope. 348 00:33:59,940 --> 00:34:02,056 This bastard came to our house. 349 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:04,654 This bastard came into my house. 350 00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:07,413 - Tony. Tony. Tony... - He came to Sallie's funeral. 351 00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:09,138 - You don 't know. -You don 't know. 352 00:34:09,220 --> 00:34:11,097 You don 't know. 353 00:34:11,180 --> 00:34:14,297 Listen , l give you my word. l will find Sallie's killer. 354 00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:18,736 l give you my word. 355 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,670 The SOCO boys found these bits and pieces in the hospital car park. 356 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,512 You must have dropped them. 357 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,318 They're your dad's. 358 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,038 Thank you . 359 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,672 Bloody shame about Bill, eh? 360 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,313 Terrible. 361 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,277 He was in AA. 362 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,555 He was... He was a great help to me. 363 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,234 You should have a holiday. Look at you ... 364 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,153 - Hm. -No, your dad's just died. 365 00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:53,390 You've seen Bill shot, you were nearly shot. 366 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,119 And you're leaving, anyway. 367 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,034 Exactly. 368 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,678 lt's my last case. 369 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,352 That's why l have to find the killer of this young girl. 370 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,916 - Good night, guv. - Good night. 371 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,392 Are you gonna be all right? 372 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,754 Yeah. 373 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,432 PAULlNE: llve arranged Dad's cremation for 1 1 o'clock tomorrow 374 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,597 Ah. 375 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,238 OK. 376 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,276 All right? 377 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,316 Right. 378 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,517 -llll see you then Bye - Um, Pauline, how are you gonna get...? 379 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,314 LlNDA: Penny? Penny SEAN : You can 't just not come home at night 380 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,669 Penny, this is no way to behave. 381 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:49,558 l know that you've been through some terrible experiences recently, but... 382 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,236 We're here for you . 383 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,276 Your mum and me. 384 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,237 Just get out of my room. 385 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,511 Yeah, so l won 't be in for a couple of hours, but l'm on the mobile. 386 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,158 SlMMS: Yeah sure 387 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,838 We're all thinking of you guv 388 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,435 Yeah. 389 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,158 Bye 390 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,115 God! 391 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,195 lused to be on and on at Mum to invite you round, wasn 't l, Mum? 392 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,840 l was desperate to have an exciting auntie like you . 393 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,993 - Not like dad's boring old sisters PAULlNE: You 're as bad as your grandfather 394 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,390 Whenever you were on TV, doing some appeal, 395 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,550 we all sat round and watched 396 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,359 - and said how great you were 397 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,193 He was always asking after you Jane 398 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,191 l didn 't always know. 399 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,757 Granddad said you were retiring. What are you going to do? 400 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,993 l don 't know. 401 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,116 PAULlNE: Maybe we'll see a lot more of you 402 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,479 lt's just a pity...it's come too late for Dad. 403 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,757 Oh! Bloody hell. Here we go. The prodigal daughter. 404 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,910 Well, he didn 't talk to me. Not much. 405 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,709 -Never talked to me much either. - That's because you never saw him. 406 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,873 Pauline, you know what? 407 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,076 l don 't give a damn about the house. 408 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,755 You can sell it. You can move into it. l don 't care. 409 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,990 l can 't believe you said that to mum. 410 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,277 Why? lt's what she's longing to say. Just come out with it. Excuse me! 411 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,194 Could l have another drink please? Gin and tonic, large one. Thank you . 412 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,113 Well, you and Brian have had your eye on that house forever. 413 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,713 Don 't you think you've had enough? 414 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,349 No, l don 't actually, and l don 't think you two have, either. 415 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,556 Oh come on Liven up 416 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,757 l've seen enough dead people in my life, for Christ's sake. 417 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,316 What? Am I appalling? 418 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,197 Am l embarrassing you? 419 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,193 Never mind, dear. We can all go and piss in the flowerpots, get thrown out of here. 420 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,840 PAULlNE: llm sorry llm sorry it 's turned out like this 421 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,829 l hope you got what you wanted from life. l really do. 422 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,831 l hope it's all been worth it. 423 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,392 Why did we come here anyway? l mean , look at us. 424 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,790 - We're like some famlly of old East End vlllains - l thought it was nice. 425 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,871 Did you think it was nice? 426 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,911 Well, it's not nice. lt's a dump. 427 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,473 Right. 428 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,234 Jane. Come on , Carol. 429 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,918 All right? 430 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:20,110 We get a lot funerals in here, what with being over the road. 431 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,875 Well, you'll never go bust, then , will you? 432 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,118 Someone close, was it? 433 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,550 lt's just that you look...sad. 434 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,395 Take your fucking hand off me. 435 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,038 Piss off. 436 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,953 Oh, charming. Delightful, you are. 437 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,268 Prick. 438 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,040 TENNlSON : Penny can I talk to you ? 439 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,678 l'll see you around, mate. 440 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,911 Why did you never have children ? 441 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,514 Well, you know, l nearly did once. 442 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,909 Nearly? 443 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,275 How can you nearly have a child? 444 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,918 Good question . 445 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,554 What can l say? Life is complicated. 446 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,598 - This is such a nice place. - Oh 447 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,513 Glad you like it. l grew up here. 448 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,670 lspent 1 5 years in this house. 449 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,629 My sister and l used to share this room. 450 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,632 - Which one's yours? - Ta-da! 451 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:06,837 My God! The bed is tiny. 452 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,155 - These are the books l wanted to show you . - Cool. 453 00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:12,832 Wow! l love this. 454 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,275 Now that is cool. 455 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,351 - Love the records. - Yeah? 456 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,431 - Oi! - Sorry. 457 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,397 - Oh God - What? 458 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,789 - You remind me so much of... - Of you? 459 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,029 Yeah. 460 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,712 When you were my age? 461 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,279 Yeah. 462 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,394 Munch. 463 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,119 You've got to look at that. That's great. 464 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,312 What are you going to do with your life, Penny? 465 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,595 Don 't know. Something. 466 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,836 There's something you're not telling me. 467 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,478 About your dad. 468 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,518 - You said there wouldn 't be any questions. - Yes. Sorry. Sorry. 469 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,199 lt's just, you know, it's so easy just to take the wrong turn , Sallie. 470 00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:25,312 Sallie ? 471 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,672 l'm not Sallie. 472 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,598 Sorry. Penny. Penny. 473 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,238 Ohhh. 474 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,116 Oh God 475 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,509 llm sorry Penny Penny Sorry 476 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,830 - l've forgotten . - Shh. 477 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,791 You don 't need to worry so much. 478 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,074 Everything's gonna be OK. 479 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:28,832 Oh, shit. 480 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,118 Oh, God. 481 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:37,798 Oh, Jesus. 482 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:02,071 Penny? 483 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,273 Penny? 484 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,756 l'm sorry, l don 't know your name. 485 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,633 Jane. 486 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:08,438 Jane is going to read the preamble. 487 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,189 Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women 488 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,317 who share their experience, strength and hope with each other, 489 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:25,679 that they may solve their common problem and help others recover from alcoholism. 490 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,278 The only requirement is a desire to stop drinking. 491 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,073 MAN : Even when blackouts became a way of life I stllI 492 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,032 I stlll couldn 't admit I had a problem with alcohoI 493 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:48,593 lt was always something else: the job, my marriage... 494 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:55,471 And then , one morning l woke up and it suddenly seemed clear. 495 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,875 My problem wasn 't any of those things. 496 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,397 lt was alcohol. 497 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,516 That was my problem. 498 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,192 The rest was just life... 499 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:12,676 ..but l was dead inside. 500 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,352 CURTlS: lt was him, not me. 501 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,353 You were the one that was armed, Curtis. Bill Otley didn 't know what was going on . 502 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,193 CURTlS: He was putting himsel in my way - Guv. 503 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,395 Erm... 504 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:48,555 Curtis's dabs are all over the handles of the sports bag, but not on any of her clothes. 505 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,074 No semen No sweat No pubes 506 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,754 And there's nothing inside the sports bag 507 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,796 Hello, Curtis. 508 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,919 For the tape, Detective Superintendent Jane Tennison is entering the room. 509 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,275 - Crazy woman . - Excuse me? 510 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,033 l wanted to talk. You were running your mouth, cussing me. 511 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,873 This interview is about the murder of Sallie Sturdy. 512 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,270 These clothes have been positively identified as belonging to Sallie. 513 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,351 They were found in your sister's flat, 514 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,556 - beside the bed you often sleep in . - Yeah? 515 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,712 - So how did they get to be in your bedroom? - She left them there. 516 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,395 - So were you having sex with Sallie Sturdy? - Someone got there before me. 517 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,359 - ls that a yes or a no? - Filled her up good and proper. 518 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,556 You knew that Sallie was pregnant? 519 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,837 My client isn 't the father. You have his DNA on file. 520 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,350 - You can 't have been too happy about that, eh? - I liked it 521 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,672 Banging away at it in there. l told her, ''l'll punch it out for you if you want''. 522 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,799 Oh, is that what happened? You killed Sallie trying to abort the baby? 523 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,793 Sallie wasn 't up for it. ''No, no, Curtis. l love the baby.'' 524 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,192 l told her, ''Go home, man . Your face don 't fit. You don 't belong.'' 525 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,273 - So, that night that Sallie was killed? - l told you , l was with with Lester. 526 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,920 We have a statement from Lester Bishop confirming... 527 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,672 Yes. Yes. Yes. l know. l know. 528 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,316 Guv? We've got one afternoon about three months ago 529 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,755 when l've got both Sean Philips and Sallie absent. 530 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,674 He's supposed to be at the dentist, so l'm just going to get Woodsy to check it now. 531 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,830 - Good, how was he? -Not too happy. 532 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,512 Hmm. 533 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,158 Let's go see him again . 534 00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:28,437 - What, lift him? -No, no, no. Go rattle his cage. 535 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,556 TENNlSON : Come on Let's go 536 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,315 Sorry if l'm a little distracted. Penny didn 't come home last night. 537 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,755 She's all right She's here in schooI now 538 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,516 - lt's just this battle between school culture and... - We're not here to talk about Penny. 539 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,670 We're asking several men involved in Sallie's life to take DNA tests. 540 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,593 l thought Curtis Flynn was the person you were investigating. 541 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:16,993 Sorry, l can 't comment on that. lt would be very helpful if you could come to the station with us. 542 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,231 To be tested? But...why? 543 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,470 l mean ...what would my DNA results show? 544 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,949 Sallie was pregnant when she died. 545 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,474 So we need to establish who the father is. 546 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,035 And you think that l might be the father? 547 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,678 My God. 548 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,433 lt's not that we think you're the father, 549 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,115 it's just, well, we're asking people to eliminate themselves from the inquiry. 550 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,873 - You know, to narrow down the field. - But... But why? 551 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,428 l know it's inconvenient, but it'll only take an hour. 552 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,158 This is a witch hunt. 553 00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:54,312 - l don 't understand. - You understand perfectly well. 554 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,030 Teachers are being hounded, portrayed as perverts, child molesters... 555 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,315 You were here yesterday, checking school rolls. 556 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,756 - What possible grounds do you now have...? - We've got our reasons. 557 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:09,356 - We're under no obligation to inform you . - And l'm under no obligation to take your test. 558 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,673 No, you're not but, if you refuse, we'll have to draw the inference and investigate you further. 559 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,029 Or do you want to walk out of here in handcuffs? 560 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,756 GLORlA: What's happening? 561 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,233 l don 't know. 562 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,917 Looks like he's being lifted. 563 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,752 Can l say something? 564 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,632 l did it. 565 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,638 Sallie... 566 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,829 l'm the one who made her pregnant. 567 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,716 Sean Philips, l am arresting you 568 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,590 on suspicion of having unlawful sexual intercourse with a 1 4-year-old girl. 569 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,394 Daddy! No! No! 570 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,028 Daddy! 571 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,917 Daddy 572 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,711 NEWSREADER: The police have charged a 42-year-old man 573 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,554 with having unlawful sex with a 1 4-year-old girI found murdered last week 574 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:22,430 The man remains in custody helping police with their inquiries into the murder 575 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,392 So how frequently did you and Sallie have sex? 576 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,514 Twice. 577 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,358 Erm...the first time was... 578 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,838 ..it was like an accident. 579 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,278 Just...well, l don 't quite know how it happened. 580 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:08,356 She'd been missing basketball and her whole attitude had changed. 581 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,034 l tried talking to her. She wouldn 't listen . 582 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,478 Then , one day, lsaw her up at the Brackford Estate. 583 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,597 l was just passing and l stopped. 584 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,194 We had an argument... 585 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,236 l drove her home. 586 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,795 And, somehow, in the car... 587 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,195 You had sex? 588 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,392 She suddenly became...very sexual. 589 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,152 She just... 590 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,872 And the second time? 591 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,959 lt was on the heath. 592 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,472 lt was um... 593 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,831 lt was more like a date. 594 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,673 OK. 595 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,357 You think l'm contemptible. 596 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,271 You only see the hypocrite. 597 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,591 - lt doesn 't matter what l think. - Of course it does. 598 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,071 lt matters what everyone thinks. lt's all that's ever mattered to me. 599 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,752 l put a stop to it then . 600 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,559 Yeah. l could see that it was madness. 601 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,154 So when did you first know that Sallie was pregnant? 602 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,912 Two months ago. 603 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,434 And how did you react? 604 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,718 l told her that a termination was the only way, but she um... 605 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,431 Well... 606 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,353 She was full of dreams... 607 00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,354 ..fantasies. 608 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,474 We'd run away together. Live on the South Coast. l'd give tutorials... 609 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:14,516 She had a way of just making it sound so wonderful. 610 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,115 Possible, even . 611 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,799 Did you feel your career was threatened? 612 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,474 My career, my family... 613 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,069 ..everything would be ruined. 614 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,390 So you stopped seeing her? 615 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,631 l tried...everything. 616 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,790 l tried to reason with her. 617 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,876 She just wouldn 't listen to me. 618 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,633 She was in love with me. 619 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,473 So...Sallie wouldn 't see sense? 620 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,391 She became impossible. 621 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,193 ln school, at home... 622 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,555 She'd watch the house and call in . 623 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,598 She was tormenting me. 624 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,951 And when did you last see her? 625 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:13,397 Well...on that day at school. The day she was killed. 626 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,149 You think l killed her. 627 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,755 Either you charge my client, or let him go. 628 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,799 This can 't be a fishing exercise for another separate crime, 629 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,075 unless you're willing to arrest him for it. 630 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,916 All right. My colleague Dl Traynor will formally arrest your client 631 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,956 on suspicion of the murder of Sallie Sturdy 632 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,395 No, please... Look, please don 't do this. 633 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,438 - I didn 't do this I swear to you - Tennyson leaving the room. 634 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:56,839 Quarter past two. 635 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,673 Ask Penny. She'll tell you that l came straight home. 636 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,390 LlNDA: What do you think you 're doing? I need it 637 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,596 You can 't take the car away! 638 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,318 TAFF: We'll be as fast as we can 639 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,709 Will someone please explain to me what is going on ? 640 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,392 Let's go inside shall we? 641 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,910 - Well, just... Get your hands off me. - All right. Calm down . 642 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,956 Let's calm down . 643 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,156 All right, all right. 644 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,271 You've not noticed anything unusual in Sean 's behaviour? 645 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,316 l've told you , no. 646 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,151 Stressful job...being a headmaster. 647 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,116 How does he deal with it? 648 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,397 He's doesn 't go around screwing 1 4-year-old girls. 649 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,278 That's not been a problem in the past? 650 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,356 lt hasn 't. 651 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,072 Did you know that Sallie was pregnant when she was murdered? 652 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,197 She gave it to me. 653 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,593 Miss Tennison . 654 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,035 Yeah? 655 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,432 Acted like she was my friend. 656 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,036 l'm too young to drink. 657 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,314 l am. 658 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,473 lshouldn 't drink alcohol. 659 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,878 What are you saying, Penny? 660 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,916 She took me back to her dad's house. 661 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,596 We looked at books, and... 662 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,276 ..she wanted me to drink whisky. 663 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,596 TAFF: No murder weapon no blood-stained clothes 664 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,636 Nothing really 665 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,392 Right. 666 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,436 The car's gone to Forensics. 667 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,116 What about Linda Philips? 668 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:37,349 Nothing. 669 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,237 They're the Waltons. 670 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,075 OK, well, we'll hold him overnight, and wait for Forensics in the morning. 671 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:50,395 Good night. 672 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:51,549 Night. 673 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,672 -Night, guys. -Night. 674 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,155 Was Penny Philips at the house? 675 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,679 She was there, yeah. 676 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,199 How was she? 677 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,113 Pretty pissed off. Sticking up for her dad. 678 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:14,354 What, Penny? She's in reception delivering a fish supper. 679 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,554 - Just take it upstairs. - We can 't have food from outside. 680 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,438 Why not, why not? Just take it. lt's not asking much. 681 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,229 lf your dad has that, we have to take it all apart, and check there's nothing in there. 682 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,118 - Then do that. - There's nothing in there. lt's fish and chips! 683 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,111 Take it up, OK? 684 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,156 Just take it up before it gets cold! 685 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,433 Jim, take it. 686 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,873 What do you want? 687 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,916 Penny. Please. 688 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,151 Penny, l... l can 't imagine how difficult all this is for you . 689 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,196 Go in here. 690 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:06,992 Look, l told your mate. 691 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,478 About going to your dad's house. 692 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,158 You wanting me to drink. 693 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,872 l told him l was too young to drink alcohol. 694 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,916 Look, Penny... 695 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,916 ..l'm not trying to hurt you . 696 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,956 Whisky would've made me sick, 697 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,474 but you just kept on and on at me. 698 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,516 lnever offered you alcohol. 699 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,710 Yes, you did. 700 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,118 You don 't even remember, do you? 701 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,716 You were too drunk. 702 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,476 Now can l have my dad back? 703 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,838 Danny, what did Penny tell you? 704 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,318 lt's not good. 705 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,356 My word against hers. 706 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,958 She's got books belonging to you . 707 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,513 She describes your dad's house 708 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,556 She's no fool. 709 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,750 So, what are you going to do? 710 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,149 That's up to you . You're my guv'nor. 711 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:15,670 Well, Danny, l think you should inform Mitchell l've seriously compromised the investigation ... 712 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,637 l don 't think Sean did it. 713 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,792 l think he made Sallie pregnant, but l still think Curtis killed her. 714 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,634 Look at his form Assault robbery with violence 715 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,479 And l don 't believe Penny. 716 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,516 Not about that alcohoI 717 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,278 Thank you . 718 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:44,189 You took her back to your dad's house. l mean , did you never think...? 719 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,952 She stole my heart. 720 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,116 Who'd have thought? 721 01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,630 l'll see you tomorrow. 722 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,280 Danny, l'm still going after Sean . 723 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:25,994 My name's Jane, 724 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,235 and l'm an alcoholic. 725 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,276 ALL: Hi, Jane. 726 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,671 Um...l haven 't had a drink today. 727 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,796 l guess that's a good thing. 728 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,278 His car's clean . No trace of Sallie, nothing. 729 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,876 - You need a confession . - Tell me something else l don 't know. 730 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,115 Detective Superintendent Tennison is entering. 731 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,158 So, your only alibi for that night is Penny? 732 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,310 l don 't want Penny dragged into this. God, no. 733 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,312 Sean , Sean , Penny has already been dragged into it. 734 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,994 She's been questioned her bedroom has been searched 735 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,355 and yet you cling on to her statement 736 01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:23,351 l mean , wha... 737 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:26,113 Penny's trying to do the right thing. Well, of course she is. 738 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,273 l mean , she's only a child, isn 't she? How old is she? Oh, she's the same age as little Sallie. 739 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,877 Little Sallie. You know, that's what the tabloids are calling her. 740 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,273 OK Sean we'll start again 741 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,032 We've got plenty of time 742 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,798 So, let's go back to the heath. 743 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,519 How often did you take Sallie there? 744 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,318 On a few occasions. 745 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,198 - For sex? -Not only... 746 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,836 l wasn 't there that night. 747 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,353 l didn 't kill Sallie. 748 01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:02,275 This is wrong. lt's wrong, it's all out of hand. You're determined to say l killed Sallie. 749 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,113 - And l didn 't. l didn 't. - Sean Sean 750 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,150 All we want here is the truth. 751 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,719 All right? 752 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,394 OK, now, look - do you want a drink of water? 753 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:14,070 Please. 754 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,355 Would you get him a drink of water, please? 755 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,108 Sean ...can you imagine what all this is doing to Penny? 756 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,794 You betray her, her faith in you . 757 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,473 And you do it with a girl of her own age from the same class, 758 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,516 a girl who lives across the street. 759 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,150 Penny... Penny, she thinks the world of you . 760 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,390 This questioning is oppressive. 761 01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:52,675 Sean , let Penny free of this. 762 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,476 l've let everyone down . 763 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,516 The whole school, everyone. 764 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,472 But l didn 't kill Sallie. 765 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,269 I couldn 't 766 01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:17,873 l couldn 't do that. 767 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,316 l'm sorry. Have you any actual evidence against my client? 768 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,753 Sallie was my star 769 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,229 She was my perfect little star. 770 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,112 Your client is free to go Thank you 771 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,110 MlTCHELL: OK let's get Curtis Flynn back in and re-interview 772 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,794 She's still not convinced about Curtis. 773 01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,711 Yeah well it 's not her call now 774 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,155 l'll talk to Tennison at her leaving party. 775 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,716 What's up with you , then ? 776 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,233 Nothing. 777 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,276 Well, that's it, then . 778 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,919 Whatever you do, do not hire a stripper for the party. 779 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,397 l can 't believe you're really leaving. 780 01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:51,993 Well llve had a good run Taff 781 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:54,310 You know - dozens of convictions, 782 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,358 three commendations, two for bravery, one for excellence. 783 01:13:57,440 --> 01:13:59,396 More than most. 784 01:13:59,480 --> 01:14:01,550 First female DCl. 785 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,154 First Jane Tennison , DCl. 786 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:05,309 Sorry, ma'am. 787 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,153 - Don 't call me ma'am. l'm not the bloody Queen . 788 01:14:17,020 --> 01:14:19,295 -£9.20, mate. - Keep the change. 789 01:14:19,380 --> 01:14:21,336 Cheers. 790 01:14:32,540 --> 01:14:34,496 Get out! 791 01:14:35,580 --> 01:14:36,854 Daddy! 792 01:14:37,900 --> 01:14:39,777 Get out! 793 01:14:42,340 --> 01:14:45,969 - Get out! - She needs us! She needs a family! 794 01:14:46,060 --> 01:14:49,211 You need your family! You screwed that up, didn 't you? Get out! 795 01:14:50,580 --> 01:14:52,536 Open the door. 796 01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:54,815 - He had sex with your best friend! - Let me go! 797 01:14:54,900 --> 01:14:58,415 He had sex with your best friend and he made her pregnant! 798 01:14:58,500 --> 01:14:59,979 Open the door. 799 01:15:00,060 --> 01:15:01,618 Open the door, Linda! 800 01:15:03,260 --> 01:15:05,649 Listen to me - he had sex with her! 801 01:15:05,740 --> 01:15:06,809 Open the door! 802 01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:10,688 He made her pregnant! He...made...her...pregnant! 803 01:15:10,780 --> 01:15:13,533 Don 't you understand that? 804 01:15:13,620 --> 01:15:15,497 Penny? 805 01:15:15,580 --> 01:15:17,138 Listen to me 806 01:15:17,220 --> 01:15:19,256 - Let me in - l'll phone the police! 807 01:15:21,380 --> 01:15:23,416 Daddy 808 01:15:27,140 --> 01:15:30,098 Daddy Daddy 809 01:15:56,380 --> 01:15:58,450 LlNDA: lt's all right, it's all right. 810 01:15:58,540 --> 01:16:00,258 No! No! 811 01:16:00,340 --> 01:16:01,978 No, get away! 812 01:16:02,060 --> 01:16:04,016 - Penny, Penny... 813 01:17:01,940 --> 01:17:03,976 This is Penny Phllips at the hospitaI 814 01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:10,658 Oh, come on , Jane. 815 01:17:10,740 --> 01:17:11,855 Now look. 816 01:17:11,940 --> 01:17:12,975 Look. 817 01:17:13,060 --> 01:17:15,016 Even at this distance... 818 01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:17,614 you see the pendant, the one that she's wearing, 819 01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:20,453 is very similar to the one missing from Sallie's body. 820 01:17:20,540 --> 01:17:23,976 Now, Penny is wearing it before Bill was killed, 821 01:17:24,060 --> 01:17:27,450 but when she came back from the flat Curtis had her in , she wasn 't wearing it. 822 01:17:27,540 --> 01:17:28,689 Hang on . 823 01:17:30,660 --> 01:17:34,733 Somewhere between the hospital and the flat, Penny disposed of the pendant. 824 01:17:55,180 --> 01:17:58,536 TRAYNOR: Did you notice if Penny was wearing a chain and pendant? 825 01:17:58,620 --> 01:18:01,498 - She was only here a little while. - She said my top was nice. 826 01:18:01,580 --> 01:18:03,536 Did she? 827 01:18:03,620 --> 01:18:07,135 She didn 't give you anything, like any jewellery or anything like that? 828 01:18:08,020 --> 01:18:08,975 No. 829 01:18:09,060 --> 01:18:12,132 Did you notice Curtis chucking anything away? 830 01:18:12,220 --> 01:18:13,938 No. 831 01:18:14,020 --> 01:18:15,658 She got me a drink of water. 832 01:18:15,740 --> 01:18:17,537 JANE: Uh -huh ? 833 01:18:17,620 --> 01:18:21,056 l don 't like water from the bathroom. Mum says if you drink it, you get sick. 834 01:18:24,020 --> 01:18:26,090 Penny got you water from the bathroom? 835 01:18:26,180 --> 01:18:27,579 l didn 't drink it. 836 01:18:29,220 --> 01:18:30,733 Excuse us a minute. 837 01:18:31,780 --> 01:18:34,374 Let's get SOCO over here. We're gonna rip out that toilet. 838 01:18:35,300 --> 01:18:37,530 - l'm going to school. - Do you think that's wise? 839 01:18:38,980 --> 01:18:41,733 - l have to go back sometime. - l don 't think it's a good idea. 840 01:18:45,420 --> 01:18:47,729 -No, nothing. - Oh, damn ! 841 01:18:49,980 --> 01:18:52,653 Well, where does that pipe go? 842 01:18:52,740 --> 01:18:57,291 The waste pipe goes down through the middle of Vanessa's flat into the flat below. 843 01:18:57,380 --> 01:19:00,338 Penny? Are you all pervs in your house? 844 01:19:03,860 --> 01:19:06,055 - Your dad teach blow jobs? 845 01:19:06,140 --> 01:19:08,893 Blow job, blow job, blow job! 846 01:19:08,980 --> 01:19:11,540 l hate you ! l hate you ! 847 01:19:21,700 --> 01:19:23,611 l'll kill you ! 848 01:19:25,700 --> 01:19:27,292 lt's that one. 849 01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:29,336 lt's all right. lt's empty. 850 01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:10,650 Why didn 't she just let him be? 851 01:20:10,740 --> 01:20:12,696 l hate this place. 852 01:20:14,060 --> 01:20:16,016 She was going on and on at him, and... 853 01:20:17,060 --> 01:20:19,449 ..she won 't ever let him be. 854 01:20:19,540 --> 01:20:21,496 Why won 't she ever leave him alone? 855 01:20:21,580 --> 01:20:22,854 Penny? 856 01:20:55,780 --> 01:20:56,895 Taff? 857 01:20:56,980 --> 01:21:00,859 Penny walked out of school after a fight. Her mam doesn 't know where she is. 858 01:21:01,900 --> 01:21:04,130 She's disappeared. 859 01:21:34,340 --> 01:21:35,489 l couldn 't see it. 860 01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:39,456 l couldn 't see it. 861 01:21:54,420 --> 01:21:56,376 Hello? 862 01:21:58,780 --> 01:21:59,895 Who's that? 863 01:22:04,260 --> 01:22:06,216 Jane? 864 01:22:08,820 --> 01:22:10,378 Auntie Jane? 865 01:22:17,460 --> 01:22:18,415 Hello? 866 01:22:23,580 --> 01:22:26,299 Please... Please don 't hurt me! 867 01:22:26,380 --> 01:22:28,575 This is my grandad's house! Please! 868 01:22:28,660 --> 01:22:31,652 - Phone Tennison ! 869 01:22:31,740 --> 01:22:32,889 Go on ! 870 01:22:36,020 --> 01:22:37,009 Yes? 871 01:22:37,100 --> 01:22:39,375 Auntie Jane please llm at Grandad's 872 01:22:39,460 --> 01:22:41,735 Penny's got my niece. 873 01:22:47,340 --> 01:22:48,773 Grab her, Danny. 874 01:22:53,700 --> 01:22:55,053 Where's Tennison ? 875 01:22:56,860 --> 01:22:59,533 - Get a psychiatrist 876 01:22:59,620 --> 01:23:01,497 My daughter's not mad! 877 01:23:01,580 --> 01:23:04,299 l hate you ! Get away from me! 878 01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:07,410 Just get away from me! 879 01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:09,650 Where is she? 880 01:23:16,660 --> 01:23:18,298 She won 't speak to anybody else. 881 01:23:18,380 --> 01:23:20,052 Well, she will eventually. 882 01:23:20,140 --> 01:23:23,257 Just get her to open up, and we'll get a proper statement later on . 883 01:23:23,340 --> 01:23:24,614 Put her in a secure unit. 884 01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:25,655 Jane 885 01:23:25,740 --> 01:23:27,776 She's asked to speak to you . 886 01:23:42,580 --> 01:23:44,411 You had an abortion . 887 01:23:50,460 --> 01:23:52,928 You said you nearly had a baby. That... 888 01:23:53,980 --> 01:23:55,572 That's what you meant. 889 01:23:56,420 --> 01:23:57,899 You had an abortion . 890 01:23:57,980 --> 01:23:59,936 You kllled your chlld 891 01:24:01,780 --> 01:24:03,736 Yes, l had a termination . 892 01:24:07,460 --> 01:24:09,416 Penny, what do you want from me? 893 01:24:11,820 --> 01:24:13,776 What do they call it 894 01:24:13,860 --> 01:24:15,612 when you ... 895 01:24:16,660 --> 01:24:18,810 ..you can 't remember what you've done. 896 01:24:18,900 --> 01:24:21,778 - A blackout? -Yeah 897 01:24:21,860 --> 01:24:24,499 Think that happened between me and Sallie? 898 01:24:24,580 --> 01:24:26,935 You don 't remember what happened? 899 01:24:27,020 --> 01:24:28,658 They're all saying l killed her. 900 01:24:28,740 --> 01:24:32,892 - You were wearing Sallie's pendant. - She gave it to me cos we were friends. 901 01:24:35,620 --> 01:24:41,217 Penny, it was ripped off Sallie's neck after she was stabbed. We've got the photographs. 902 01:24:44,580 --> 01:24:48,255 Look, you can see the pattern of the chain cut in Sallie's neck. 903 01:25:13,180 --> 01:25:14,659 Curtis could have done it. 904 01:25:15,540 --> 01:25:17,212 Curtis has an alibi. 905 01:25:23,340 --> 01:25:24,978 PENNY: Why did you kllI her ? 906 01:25:25,060 --> 01:25:27,096 lt could have been a girl. 907 01:25:29,460 --> 01:25:31,416 You could have been a mother 908 01:25:32,740 --> 01:25:37,131 Penny, you're 1 4. There's a lot about life that you don 't understand. 909 01:25:37,220 --> 01:25:39,256 You killed your child! 910 01:25:40,460 --> 01:25:42,257 What is there to understand? 911 01:25:44,660 --> 01:25:48,175 You know I spent eight hours in a room like this once 912 01:25:48,260 --> 01:25:50,899 listening to a young man tell how he'd killed three people. 913 01:25:50,980 --> 01:25:55,292 He was explaining to me how he gouged out one woman 's eye with a pencil. 914 01:25:56,340 --> 01:26:01,778 You think l'm going to go home to Thomas the Tank Engine and ''Good night, teddy'' after that? 915 01:26:01,860 --> 01:26:05,853 l made choices. l spent my life in rooms like this. 916 01:26:07,140 --> 01:26:09,495 l'm not proud, but yes, l had a termination . 917 01:26:11,580 --> 01:26:14,492 lt was the right thing for me. lt was the right thing for me to do. 918 01:26:14,580 --> 01:26:16,298 You're the reason my dad's gone. 919 01:26:16,380 --> 01:26:19,577 The reason your dad's gone is because he had sexual relations 920 01:26:19,660 --> 01:26:22,299 with a 1 4-year-old girl, with your friend Sallie. 921 01:26:22,380 --> 01:26:24,336 You don 't love anyone. 922 01:26:24,420 --> 01:26:27,253 You don 't love anyone except yourself. 923 01:26:27,340 --> 01:26:29,296 You 're lonely 924 01:26:31,900 --> 01:26:33,538 l thought we were friends. 925 01:26:37,940 --> 01:26:39,896 lnever lied to you , Penny. 926 01:26:49,780 --> 01:26:53,170 Listening to you and being with you it made me feeI like 927 01:26:53,260 --> 01:26:56,172 well, that life was worth living again . 928 01:26:56,260 --> 01:27:01,380 Everything was exciting and possible, and l felt like l used to before all of this. 929 01:27:05,020 --> 01:27:06,976 l wanted to give you lo... 930 01:27:08,420 --> 01:27:10,376 ..love. 931 01:27:30,500 --> 01:27:32,536 You never meant to kill Sallie, did you? 932 01:27:35,700 --> 01:27:37,656 You wanted to kllI that baby 933 01:27:43,220 --> 01:27:46,371 Penny, you never intended to kill Sallie, did you? 934 01:27:50,420 --> 01:27:52,251 l meant to. 935 01:27:52,340 --> 01:27:54,296 Sallie was taking the piss 936 01:28:01,300 --> 01:28:02,369 OK. 937 01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:24,256 l got what you wanted. 938 01:28:29,540 --> 01:28:31,371 Here we go, here we go. Here's our boy. 939 01:28:31,460 --> 01:28:33,576 Here's our boy - Officer Hunky. 940 01:28:33,660 --> 01:28:36,254 Check him out. He'll handcuff her, and do the business. 941 01:28:36,340 --> 01:28:40,777 - Handcuff Tennison ? Are you joking? - He'll give her a full body search. 942 01:28:40,860 --> 01:28:43,658 lf he touches her, she'll stick that baton right up... 943 01:28:43,740 --> 01:28:45,059 She'll be here any minute 944 01:28:47,740 --> 01:28:49,219 That's Sallie's, yes. 945 01:28:53,620 --> 01:28:57,169 l promise it will be returned to you after the court case. 946 01:28:57,260 --> 01:28:58,534 Thank you 947 01:28:58,620 --> 01:28:59,655 Thank you . 948 01:29:06,180 --> 01:29:08,455 l'm sorry this investigation has been ... 949 01:29:09,900 --> 01:29:12,460 so painfuI for both of you 950 01:29:13,540 --> 01:29:16,418 We get up in the morning, and that's an achievement. 951 01:29:18,980 --> 01:29:20,936 I make a cup of tea 952 01:29:22,300 --> 01:29:24,052 That's another one. 953 01:29:24,140 --> 01:29:25,812 And that's how life is now. 954 01:29:36,340 --> 01:29:38,137 l hear you're leaving. 955 01:29:38,220 --> 01:29:40,893 Yes. Out to grass. 956 01:29:56,940 --> 01:29:58,373 Thank you . 957 01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:08,856 For everything, thank you .