1 00:00:05,773 --> 00:00:08,576 Man: PREVIOUSLY ON "IN TREATMENT"... 2 00:00:08,676 --> 00:00:10,378 KATE RAN INTO LAURA. 3 00:00:10,478 --> 00:00:13,381 WHAT I SAW WAS THIS HIGHLY-SEXUAL WOMAN 4 00:00:13,481 --> 00:00:15,416 WHO WAS WEARING STILETTOS AT 10:00 IN THE MORNING. 5 00:00:15,516 --> 00:00:17,585 ISN'T IT A LITTLE EMBARRASSING FOR YOU, 6 00:00:17,685 --> 00:00:20,788 FOLLOWING YOUR DICK AROUND LIKE A CAVEMAN? 7 00:00:20,888 --> 00:00:23,224 KATE, I FELL IN LOVE WITH YOU NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE... 8 00:00:23,324 --> 00:00:25,559 BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY BUT BECAUSE OF YOUR STRENGTH. 9 00:00:25,659 --> 00:00:28,362 I NEEDED THAT. I THINK WE BOTH NEEDED THAT. 10 00:00:28,462 --> 00:00:30,564 NOT ANYMORE. I DON'T NEED YOU ANYMORE. 11 00:00:30,664 --> 00:00:32,966 Gina: YOU KNOW, YOU SAID YOU MARRIED HIM 12 00:00:33,067 --> 00:00:35,469 BECAUSE HE PAID SUCH DEEP ATTENTION TO YOU. 13 00:00:35,569 --> 00:00:38,339 YOU'VE OUTGROWN THAT DEPENDENCY. 14 00:00:38,439 --> 00:00:40,241 SO SHE'S NOT MY GROUPIE ANYMORE 15 00:00:40,341 --> 00:00:42,243 SO I FOUND SOMEBODY TO REPLACE HER. 16 00:00:42,343 --> 00:00:44,312 IS THAT YOUR THEORY? YOU SEE WHAT SHE'S DOING? 17 00:00:44,412 --> 00:00:47,315 SHE'S INSTRUCTING YOU ON WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FEELING. 18 00:00:47,415 --> 00:00:49,583 GAME, SET AND MATCH TO YOU, GINA. 19 00:00:56,957 --> 00:00:59,059 ( phone ringing ) 20 00:01:00,728 --> 00:01:02,396 HELLO? 21 00:01:02,496 --> 00:01:04,898 OH, HI. 22 00:01:04,998 --> 00:01:06,500 SO, UM... 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,437 SO, WHAT DID THE DERMATOLOGIST SAY? 24 00:01:10,371 --> 00:01:11,572 MM-HMM. 25 00:01:14,108 --> 00:01:15,709 OKAY, SO DON'T LOOK IN THE MIRROR, SOPHIE. 26 00:01:15,809 --> 00:01:19,079 YEAH, COVER THE MIRROR UP WITH A TOWEL OR SOMETHING. 27 00:01:19,180 --> 00:01:21,048 I'M ORDERING YOU NOT TO LOOK AT IT. 28 00:01:21,149 --> 00:01:22,283 DOCTOR'S ORDERS, OKAY? 29 00:01:22,383 --> 00:01:25,119 TAKE IT AS A CHALLENGE. 30 00:01:25,219 --> 00:01:27,755 MM-HMM. IT'LL PASS. 31 00:01:27,855 --> 00:01:30,291 I PROMISE. 32 00:01:30,391 --> 00:01:32,360 GOOD, SO CALL ME IF YOU NEED ME. 33 00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:35,062 BYE. 34 00:01:35,163 --> 00:01:36,597 POOR THING. 35 00:01:36,697 --> 00:01:39,567 WHO'S THAT? 36 00:01:39,667 --> 00:01:41,902 A PATIENT ROSIE'S AGE. SHE THINKS SHE'S A FREAK. 37 00:01:42,002 --> 00:01:45,506 NOW SHE'S GOT A RASH ALL OVER HER BODY TO PROVE IT. 38 00:01:45,606 --> 00:01:47,808 OH, IS IT THAT SWEET GIRL THAT I HELPED INTO THE DRY CLOTHES? 39 00:01:47,908 --> 00:01:49,710 YES. 40 00:01:49,810 --> 00:01:51,712 WHERE ARE MY KEYS? 41 00:01:51,812 --> 00:01:54,215 GOD, DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN IAN USED TO GET THOSE RASHES 42 00:01:54,315 --> 00:01:56,917 EVERY TIME HE GOT THE FLU? SO SCARY. 43 00:01:57,017 --> 00:01:59,787 IT DIDN'T HELP THAT I PUT THE WRONG CREAM ON HIM THAT TIME. 44 00:01:59,887 --> 00:02:01,622 DO YOU REMEMBER? 45 00:02:07,628 --> 00:02:09,697 THE SPIDER AWAITS. LET'S GO. 46 00:02:09,797 --> 00:02:11,765 ( theme music playing ) 47 00:02:28,282 --> 00:02:31,419 SO... ROSIE KNOWS. 48 00:02:31,519 --> 00:02:35,155 SHE ASKED IF PAUL AND I WERE FIGHTING 49 00:02:35,256 --> 00:02:37,325 AND I STARTED OFF 50 00:02:37,425 --> 00:02:39,493 INTO THIS RATHER CLICHED SPEECH 51 00:02:39,593 --> 00:02:41,529 ABOUT, YOU KNOW, "WHEN TWO PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER 52 00:02:41,629 --> 00:02:43,797 AS LONG AS YOUR FATHER AND I HAVE, 53 00:02:43,897 --> 00:02:45,299 IT'S NOT SOME ROMANTIC MOVIE 54 00:02:45,399 --> 00:02:47,201 WHERE EVERYBODY LIVES HAPPILY EVER AFTER--" 55 00:02:47,301 --> 00:02:49,703 WHATEVER. WHATEVER. 56 00:02:49,803 --> 00:02:52,373 AS IF THAT'S WHAT SHE THOUGHT TO BEGIN WITH, 57 00:02:52,473 --> 00:02:54,342 LIKE SHE'S SOME LITTLE GIRL. 58 00:02:56,310 --> 00:02:58,346 WHAT DID SHE SAY? 59 00:02:58,446 --> 00:03:01,382 TYPICAL ROSIE-- SHE CUT RIGHT TO THE CHASE 60 00:03:01,482 --> 00:03:04,051 AND SHE ASKED ME IF I WAS SLEEPING WITH SOMEBODY. 61 00:03:04,151 --> 00:03:06,754 Gina: WHY WOULD SHE SUSPECT THAT? 62 00:03:08,889 --> 00:03:10,758 WHEN I WAS IN ROME, 63 00:03:10,858 --> 00:03:12,693 SHE CALLED ME 64 00:03:12,793 --> 00:03:16,163 AND SHE HEARD EDWARD IN THE BACKGROUND. 65 00:03:16,264 --> 00:03:17,831 OF COURSE, SHE DOESN'T TELL ME THIS THOUGH, 66 00:03:17,931 --> 00:03:21,034 SO... I GOT DEFENSIVE. 67 00:03:21,134 --> 00:03:23,070 I GOT KINDA VAGUE 68 00:03:23,170 --> 00:03:25,506 AND I SAID, "WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT I'M SEEING SOMEBODY?" 69 00:03:25,606 --> 00:03:28,208 I ALMOST SAID, "WHY ME? WHY NOT YOUR FATHER?" 70 00:03:28,309 --> 00:03:30,611 BUT THANK GOD I DIDN'T. 71 00:03:32,546 --> 00:03:34,782 FINALLY SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE KNEW. 72 00:03:41,889 --> 00:03:44,091 WHAT ABOUT THE BOYS? 73 00:03:44,191 --> 00:03:47,361 WELL, I SPOKE TO IAN. NOT ABOUT KATE'S-- 74 00:03:47,461 --> 00:03:48,762 KATE'S AFFAIR BUT, UM... 75 00:03:48,862 --> 00:03:52,099 JUST ABOUT THE TENSION IN THE HOUSE. 76 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:53,901 WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME ABOUT THAT? 77 00:03:54,001 --> 00:03:55,336 WELL, I'M TELLING YOU NOW. 78 00:03:55,436 --> 00:03:58,572 WHY CAN WE NOT TALK ABOUT THIS AT HOME? 79 00:03:58,672 --> 00:04:00,841 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. 80 00:04:00,941 --> 00:04:03,143 - WHAT DID YOU SAY TO HIM? - I SAID WE WERE WORKING 81 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:04,678 THROUGH SOME DISAGREEMENTS. 82 00:04:04,778 --> 00:04:07,915 HE ASKED ME IF I WAS INTERESTED IN ANYBODY ELSE, 83 00:04:08,015 --> 00:04:09,850 AND I SAID THAT I HAD 84 00:04:09,950 --> 00:04:13,186 FEELINGS FOR SOMEBODY ELSE 85 00:04:13,287 --> 00:04:15,589 BUT THAT NOTHING HAD HAPPENED. 86 00:04:17,791 --> 00:04:21,295 WELL, THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S JUST REALLY GREAT. 87 00:04:21,395 --> 00:04:22,763 DID YOU THINK FOR A MINUTE THAT MAYBE 88 00:04:22,863 --> 00:04:24,532 THAT WAS SOMETHING WE COULD'VE HANDLED TOGETHER? 89 00:04:24,632 --> 00:04:26,334 I'D JUST SPOKEN TO ROSIE. SHE SAID TO ME, 90 00:04:26,434 --> 00:04:29,069 "WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING YOUR WIFE 91 00:04:29,169 --> 00:04:31,439 TO GO TO ROME WITH SOMEBODY ELSE, DAD? 92 00:04:31,539 --> 00:04:34,408 FIX IT, DAD." THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID. 93 00:04:34,508 --> 00:04:36,610 LIKE IT WAS ALL UP TO ME... AGAIN. 94 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:40,681 AND JUST AFTER THAT, IAN CAME IN, SO... ( sighs ) 95 00:04:40,781 --> 00:04:43,617 I DON'T KNOW, I JUST FELT LIKE I WANTED TO COME CLEAN. 96 00:04:43,717 --> 00:04:45,619 Gina: HOW DO YOU THINK HE TOOK THAT, 97 00:04:45,719 --> 00:04:47,621 YOU HAVING FEELINGS FOR SOMEONE ELSE? 98 00:04:47,721 --> 00:04:51,024 WELL, I THINK IT HIT HIM HARD 99 00:04:51,124 --> 00:04:52,826 BUT, YOU KNOW, HE TOUGHED IT OUT. 100 00:04:52,926 --> 00:04:56,063 "IT'S OKAY, DAD, IT'S COOL." THAT KIND OF THING. 101 00:04:56,163 --> 00:04:57,798 Kate: WELL, THAT'S NO SURPRISE. 102 00:04:57,898 --> 00:05:00,601 IAN'S ALWAYS BEEN ON PAUL'S SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT, ALWAYS. 103 00:05:00,701 --> 00:05:02,503 - THAT'S NOT TRUE. - Kate: YES, IT IS TRUE. 104 00:05:02,603 --> 00:05:04,171 YOU'RE ALWAYS THE POOR, INNOCENT LAMB 105 00:05:04,271 --> 00:05:05,906 AND I'M ALWAYS THE MONSTER. IT IS TRUE. 106 00:05:06,006 --> 00:05:07,675 WHEN IN FACT, YOU'RE BLAMELESS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE 107 00:05:07,775 --> 00:05:10,778 - TRYING TO SAY? - NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. 108 00:05:10,878 --> 00:05:13,414 YOU KNOW YOU'VE NEVER ONCE-- ONCE-- TAKEN 109 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:14,915 RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT YOU DID? 110 00:05:15,015 --> 00:05:16,917 YOU'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR THREE WEEKS 111 00:05:17,017 --> 00:05:19,487 AND YOU NEVER ONCE SAID, "I'M SORRY, I MADE A MISTAKE." 112 00:05:19,587 --> 00:05:21,288 REALLY, I'VE NEVER SAID THAT? 113 00:05:21,389 --> 00:05:23,023 - I'VE HEARD HER SAY THAT. - WHEN? 114 00:05:23,123 --> 00:05:26,660 I'VE HEARD HER SAY THAT A NUMBER OF TIMES-- HERE. 115 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,996 ACTUALLY, ONE TIME SHE SAID IT WAS A STUPID MISTAKE. 116 00:05:29,096 --> 00:05:32,099 - I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. - 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA HEAR IT. 117 00:05:33,701 --> 00:05:35,436 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT, KATE? 118 00:05:35,536 --> 00:05:37,938 IF HE'D HEARD IT, IT WOULD FORCE HIM INTO DECIDING 119 00:05:38,038 --> 00:05:39,540 WHETHER HE'S WILLING TO FORGIVE ME OR NOT, 120 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,375 AND HE'S OBVIOUSLY NOT WILLING TO FORGIVE ME 121 00:05:41,475 --> 00:05:44,144 BECAUSE HE HASN'T MADE UP HIS MIND ABOUT THIS OTHER WOMAN YET. 122 00:05:44,244 --> 00:05:46,380 WOW. 123 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,850 WOW. ANYTHING ELSE I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT ME? 124 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:56,790 BY THE WAY, ANOTHER THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT-- 125 00:05:56,890 --> 00:05:59,427 YOU KEEP SAYING THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND, 126 00:05:59,527 --> 00:06:01,595 THAT I DON'T SEE MY KIDS, THAT I DON'T SEE, 127 00:06:01,695 --> 00:06:05,633 THAT I DON'T GIVE, THAT I ONLY FOCUS ON MYSELF. 128 00:06:05,733 --> 00:06:08,969 CAN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF MOTHER YOU'VE BEEN? 129 00:06:09,069 --> 00:06:10,738 CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT? 130 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:15,308 YEAH, SURE. OKAY. 131 00:06:15,409 --> 00:06:17,010 LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. 132 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:18,479 Paul: OKAY. 133 00:06:18,579 --> 00:06:21,915 IMPATIENT, NAGGING-- JUST ASK THEM, 134 00:06:22,015 --> 00:06:23,484 THEY'LL TELL YOU. 135 00:06:23,584 --> 00:06:25,218 ANYTHING THEY DO ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU. 136 00:06:25,318 --> 00:06:27,788 OKAY. 137 00:06:27,888 --> 00:06:29,823 YOU SHOULD REALLY BE QUIET RIGHT NOW 138 00:06:29,923 --> 00:06:32,025 'CAUSE YOU'RE SORT OF EMBARRASSING YOURSELF. 139 00:06:32,125 --> 00:06:35,228 WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE PAST YEAR? 140 00:06:35,328 --> 00:06:37,330 PAST YEAR? WHAT ABOUT THE PAST DECADE? 141 00:06:37,431 --> 00:06:39,199 YOU DON'T KNOW A THING ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN-- 142 00:06:39,299 --> 00:06:41,569 IAN, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT. 143 00:06:41,669 --> 00:06:44,572 MAX? ROSIE? JESUS. 144 00:06:44,672 --> 00:06:46,774 YOU DON'T KNOW WHO SHE'S HANGING OUT WITH, 145 00:06:46,874 --> 00:06:48,842 WHAT SHE DOES. YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE. 146 00:06:48,942 --> 00:06:51,845 HE STILL THINKS THAT SHE'S THIS VIRGINAL LITTLE THING 147 00:06:51,945 --> 00:06:54,848 WHO DOESN'T GO OFF WITH HER FRIENDS AND PARTY OR TRY DRUGS. 148 00:06:54,948 --> 00:06:58,919 - THAT SHE'S JUST THIS... DADDY'S LITTLE GIRL. - WHAT DRUGS? 149 00:07:00,588 --> 00:07:02,923 COME ON, I'M ASKING YOU: 150 00:07:03,023 --> 00:07:04,858 WHAT DRUGS? 151 00:07:08,462 --> 00:07:10,564 LOOK, SHE GOES TO CONCERTS WITH HER FRIENDS 152 00:07:10,664 --> 00:07:12,432 AND SHE SMOKES POT, 153 00:07:12,533 --> 00:07:14,535 BUT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS BECAUSE SHE'S YOUR DAUGHTER 154 00:07:14,635 --> 00:07:18,038 YOU THINK SHE DOESN'T DO THAT SORT OF THING. 155 00:07:18,138 --> 00:07:21,374 DID SHE TELL YOU THAT? THAT SHE SMOKES POT? 156 00:07:21,475 --> 00:07:22,776 WHO ELSE CAN SHE TELL? 157 00:07:22,876 --> 00:07:25,946 - SHE COULD'VE TOLD ME. - REALLY? 158 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:33,253 SO WHAT DID YOU SAY TO HER? 159 00:07:33,353 --> 00:07:36,890 I TOLD HER THAT, IF SHE DID IT ONCE, THAT IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. 160 00:07:36,990 --> 00:07:38,726 THAT ONE JOINT IS CERTAINLY NOT GONNA MAKE YOU A JUNKIE. 161 00:07:38,826 --> 00:07:41,428 SO BASICALLY YOU SAID IT'S OKAY 162 00:07:41,529 --> 00:07:43,330 IF SHE GETS HIGH AND SMOKES POT. 163 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:44,898 COME ON, ALL OF HER FRIENDS SMOKE. 164 00:07:44,998 --> 00:07:46,634 - THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. - Paul: SO? 165 00:07:46,734 --> 00:07:48,368 SHE TRIED SOME, SHE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT. 166 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,871 ALL HER FRIENDS SMOKE. SO YOU BUY INTO THAT? 167 00:07:50,971 --> 00:07:52,706 YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT SHE FEELS 168 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:54,474 THAT SHE CAN COME TO ME AND TALK TO ME ABOUT IT. 169 00:07:54,575 --> 00:07:56,644 I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT. 170 00:08:00,914 --> 00:08:03,617 SO IS THIS HOW SHE GOT INVOLVED WITH THIS NOAH GUY? 171 00:08:04,785 --> 00:08:06,654 NOAH IS ROSIE'S BOYFRIEND. 172 00:08:06,754 --> 00:08:08,922 NO, SHE'S INTO NOAH BECAUSE HE'S A BOY. 173 00:08:09,022 --> 00:08:12,325 IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH DRUGS WHATSOEVER. 174 00:08:12,425 --> 00:08:14,194 ARE THEY SLEEPING WITH EACH OTHER? 175 00:08:18,231 --> 00:08:19,867 YES OR NO? 176 00:08:30,143 --> 00:08:31,845 ROSIE'S ON THE PILL. 177 00:08:36,449 --> 00:08:39,853 BUT, I MEAN, YOU'RE SO CLOSE TO HER, YOU MUST KNOW THAT, RIGHT? 178 00:08:44,725 --> 00:08:47,060 HOW DID YOU FIND THIS OUT? 179 00:08:55,736 --> 00:08:57,504 I TOOK HER TO THE GYNECOLOGIST MYSELF 180 00:08:57,605 --> 00:09:01,575 - ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO. - WHY WOULDN'T YOU TELL ME THAT? 181 00:09:01,675 --> 00:09:04,044 BECAUSE SHE ASKED ME NOT TO. 182 00:09:04,144 --> 00:09:06,513 SO? 183 00:09:06,614 --> 00:09:08,716 WELL, IT'S BETWEEN HER AND ME, PAUL. 184 00:09:08,816 --> 00:09:10,784 WOW, SEX AND DRUGS, NICE. 185 00:09:10,884 --> 00:09:12,552 THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME CATEGORY. 186 00:09:12,653 --> 00:09:13,854 DO YOU KNOW HOW OFTEN SHE SMOKES? 187 00:09:13,954 --> 00:09:15,522 DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHE SMOKES? 188 00:09:15,623 --> 00:09:16,924 DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY PUT IN THIS SHIT NOW? 189 00:09:17,024 --> 00:09:18,726 IS SHE KEEPING YOU UP TO DATE ON THAT? 190 00:09:18,826 --> 00:09:21,561 SHE'S NOT A DRUG ADDICT, SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST RELAX? 191 00:09:21,662 --> 00:09:23,496 I'M NOT GONNA RELAX BECAUSE THIS ISN'T ABOUT 192 00:09:23,597 --> 00:09:25,032 WHETHER ROSIE SMOKES POT OR NOT. 193 00:09:25,132 --> 00:09:27,200 IT'S ABOUT YOU KEEPING IT FROM ME. 194 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:28,836 THAT'S THE ISSUE. 195 00:09:28,936 --> 00:09:30,804 YOU TOOK HER TO A GYNECOLOGIST WITHOUT TELLING ME. 196 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:32,873 - SHE'S A CHILD. - SHE'S NOT A CHILD. 197 00:09:32,973 --> 00:09:35,108 SHE'S OUR CHILD-- OURS. 198 00:09:41,348 --> 00:09:44,618 WELL, I GUESS YOU KIND OF ENJOYED KEEPING IT FROM ME. 199 00:09:44,718 --> 00:09:47,621 GIVES YOU SOME KIND OF CONTROL, DOES IT? 200 00:09:47,721 --> 00:09:49,757 GOT SUCH A KICK OUT OF YOUR LITTLE CONSPIRACY, 201 00:09:49,857 --> 00:09:51,925 YOU FORGOT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT ROSIE. 202 00:09:52,025 --> 00:09:54,527 NOT EVERYTHING I DO IS FOR YOUR BENEFIT. 203 00:09:54,628 --> 00:09:56,997 - DOES IAN SMOKE POT? - OH, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. 204 00:09:57,097 --> 00:09:59,332 IN COLLEGE? I CERTAINLY HOPE NOT. 205 00:09:59,432 --> 00:10:00,768 WELL, IT APPEARS I LIVE 206 00:10:00,868 --> 00:10:03,570 IN SOME KIND OF AN ALTERNATE REALITY. 207 00:10:03,671 --> 00:10:05,572 IF ONE OF HER TEACHERS KEPT THAT KIND OF 208 00:10:05,673 --> 00:10:07,007 INFORMATION FROM ME, IT WOULD BE BAD. 209 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:09,042 BUT YOU'RE HER MOTHER. IT'S WORSE. 210 00:10:09,142 --> 00:10:11,344 IT MAKES IT A HUNDRED TIMES WORSE. 211 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:18,451 PAUL, LET'S LOOK 212 00:10:18,551 --> 00:10:20,387 AT HOW YOU'RE REACTING. 213 00:10:21,655 --> 00:10:23,290 NOW KATE WAS SAYING 214 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:25,525 THAT THIS IS WHY SHE'S AFRAID TO TELL YOU THINGS, 215 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:28,428 - ROSIE TOO. - WHO WOULDN'T BE PISSED OFF 216 00:10:28,528 --> 00:10:30,097 IF THEIR WIFE DIDN'T TELL THEM, 217 00:10:30,197 --> 00:10:31,832 IF THEIR WIFE DIDN'T INCLUDE THEM? 218 00:10:31,932 --> 00:10:33,801 THERE ARE REASONS TO BE ANGRY. 219 00:10:33,901 --> 00:10:36,670 BUT CAN YOU LOOK BEYOND THAT FOR A MINUTE? 220 00:10:36,770 --> 00:10:40,473 KATE'S TRYING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT ROSIE, 221 00:10:40,573 --> 00:10:43,443 ABOUT HER RELATIONSHIP WITH ROSIE. YOU'RE NOT HEARING IT. 222 00:10:43,543 --> 00:10:46,446 - I THINK I AM. - NO, YOU'RE NOT. 223 00:10:46,546 --> 00:10:48,315 NO, THE WAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, 224 00:10:48,415 --> 00:10:51,084 THEY'RE EXCLUDING YOU, 225 00:10:51,184 --> 00:10:53,987 BUT KATE'S TALKING ABOUT THEIR OWN RELATIONSHIP, 226 00:10:54,087 --> 00:10:56,656 THEIR INTIMACY, THEIR TRUST. 227 00:11:03,630 --> 00:11:07,434 YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK WHEN YOU WERE HERE, 228 00:11:07,534 --> 00:11:09,602 YOU HAD A LEGITIMATE CONCERN 229 00:11:09,703 --> 00:11:11,805 ABOUT ROSIE WHEN SHE DISAPPEARED FOR A DAY. 230 00:11:11,905 --> 00:11:14,908 WE'RE BACK HERE AGAIN TODAY 231 00:11:15,008 --> 00:11:17,177 AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT ROSIE. 232 00:11:17,277 --> 00:11:19,813 NOW A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT. 233 00:11:19,913 --> 00:11:22,916 THEY ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, 234 00:11:23,016 --> 00:11:24,384 BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE DON'T 235 00:11:24,484 --> 00:11:27,054 KEEP ON TALKING ABOUT ROSIE 236 00:11:27,154 --> 00:11:31,324 BECAUSE WE'RE AVOIDING THE ISSUES THAT BROUGHT YOU HERE. 237 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:46,339 ( clears throat ) 238 00:11:47,174 --> 00:11:48,408 OKAY. 239 00:11:48,508 --> 00:11:50,343 LET'S TRY IMAGO. 240 00:11:59,352 --> 00:12:00,487 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 241 00:12:00,587 --> 00:12:02,890 COME ON, GINA, YOU'RE KIDDING. 242 00:12:02,990 --> 00:12:05,759 PAUL, I'M TRYING TO GET A DIALOGUE STARTED. 243 00:12:05,859 --> 00:12:08,962 WAIT. HELLO, WHAT'S IMAGO? 244 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:12,833 IT'S THIS POP PSYCHOLOGY 245 00:12:12,933 --> 00:12:15,668 FROM THE '80s. THE MOST EARNEST KIND OF BULLSHIT. 246 00:12:15,769 --> 00:12:17,370 PAUL. 247 00:12:17,470 --> 00:12:19,506 IT'S A TYPE OF COUPLES THERAPY 248 00:12:19,606 --> 00:12:21,408 WHERE YOU REFLECT EACH OTHER'S FEELINGS. 249 00:12:21,508 --> 00:12:23,710 WHEN I USED TO WORK WITH YOU, YOU USED TO LAUGH AT IT. 250 00:12:23,811 --> 00:12:26,413 THERE'S A LOT OF IT THAT'S... BULLSHIT. 251 00:12:26,513 --> 00:12:27,848 YEAH. 252 00:12:27,948 --> 00:12:31,284 BUT IT CAN BE USEFUL 253 00:12:31,384 --> 00:12:34,221 TO GET A DIALOGUE GOING. 254 00:12:34,321 --> 00:12:36,924 WE CAN DO IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN WE'LL DROP IT. 255 00:12:37,024 --> 00:12:40,160 SO-- I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WHEN YOU SAY "REFLECT"-- 256 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:42,262 GINA, PLEASE DON'T MAKE US DO THIS. 257 00:12:42,362 --> 00:12:45,132 CAN I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS BEFORE WE MAKE THAT DECISION? 258 00:12:50,170 --> 00:12:51,338 OKAY. 259 00:12:52,940 --> 00:12:56,143 WHAT PAUL SAID WAS RIGHT. IT'S ABOUT REFLECTION. 260 00:12:56,243 --> 00:12:59,012 ONE PERSON BEGINS AND THE OTHER PERSON... 261 00:12:59,112 --> 00:13:00,814 ANSWERS. 262 00:13:00,914 --> 00:13:04,084 SO PAUL WILL SAY, 263 00:13:04,184 --> 00:13:07,888 "I'M UPSET ABOUT WHAT YOU DID LAST NIGHT." 264 00:13:07,988 --> 00:13:10,657 AND YOU RESPOND, "I HEAR THAT YOU'RE UPSET 265 00:13:10,757 --> 00:13:12,159 ABOUT MY BEHAVIOR LAST NIGHT." 266 00:13:12,259 --> 00:13:15,795 AND PAUL WILL CONFIRM OR HE'LL CORRECT YOU 267 00:13:15,896 --> 00:13:17,430 IF YOU LEFT SOMETHING OUT. 268 00:13:17,530 --> 00:13:19,632 WE DO THAT FOR A WHILE 269 00:13:19,732 --> 00:13:23,203 AND THEN THE LISTENING PERSON SUMMARIZES WHAT THEY HEARD. 270 00:13:23,303 --> 00:13:25,205 THOSE OF US WHO CAN STILL HEAR. 271 00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:27,074 THE MORE YOU BITCH ABOUT THIS, THE MORE I WANNA DO IT, 272 00:13:27,174 --> 00:13:29,409 - SO JUST-- - OF COURSE. 273 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:31,912 HOW DO WE START, GINA? 274 00:13:32,012 --> 00:13:33,446 OKAY, SO TURN SO YOU'RE FACING EACH OTHER. 275 00:13:33,546 --> 00:13:36,316 OH, GINA. 276 00:13:36,416 --> 00:13:38,318 WELL, WE'RE DEFINITELY DOING IT NOW, SO-- 277 00:13:38,418 --> 00:13:41,621 Gina: OKAY, FACE EACH OTHER. PAUL, WOULD YOU FACE-- 278 00:13:41,721 --> 00:13:43,290 OKAY, FINE FINE FINE. 279 00:13:43,390 --> 00:13:45,658 WE'LL DO AN IMAGO. 280 00:13:45,758 --> 00:13:48,228 OKAY, MOVE IN A LITTLE CLOSER. 281 00:13:52,732 --> 00:13:54,467 WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? 282 00:13:54,567 --> 00:13:56,336 ME, I WILL. 283 00:13:57,404 --> 00:13:58,872 OKAY. 284 00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:02,542 OH... 285 00:14:04,777 --> 00:14:06,146 HE ONLY REPEATS, RIGHT? THAT'S IT. 286 00:14:06,246 --> 00:14:07,647 THAT'S RIGHT, NOTHING ELSE-- 287 00:14:07,747 --> 00:14:09,649 NO COMMENTS, NO REACTIONS, 288 00:14:09,749 --> 00:14:12,385 - NO ANALYSIS. - OKAY. 289 00:14:12,485 --> 00:14:14,955 LIKING THIS ALREADY. 290 00:14:16,223 --> 00:14:19,126 DURING THESE SESSIONS WITH GINA, 291 00:14:19,226 --> 00:14:22,762 I'VE STARTED TO LEARN A LOT 292 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:24,898 ABOUT MYSELF... 293 00:14:24,998 --> 00:14:26,900 AND ABOUT YOU. 294 00:14:28,368 --> 00:14:29,903 Gina: PAUL? 295 00:14:30,003 --> 00:14:31,604 YEAH, I... 296 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,076 I HEAR YOU SAY 297 00:14:36,176 --> 00:14:37,610 SINCE WE'VE BEEN SEEING GINA, 298 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:39,146 YOU'VE STARTED TO UNDERSTAND 299 00:14:39,246 --> 00:14:42,983 A LOT ABOUT... YOURSELF. 300 00:14:44,417 --> 00:14:46,186 AND ABOUT YOU. 301 00:14:47,087 --> 00:14:49,389 AND ABOUT ME. 302 00:14:52,792 --> 00:14:54,094 YEAH, IN MY HEART OF HEARTS, 303 00:14:54,194 --> 00:14:56,930 I REALLY DID NOT WANT TO COME HERE, 304 00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:59,099 BUT I REALIZED THAT I WAS WILLING 305 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:01,068 TO DO WHATEVER IT TOOK 306 00:15:01,168 --> 00:15:05,038 BECAUSE I CANNOT GET THROUGH TO YOU AT HOME. 307 00:15:05,138 --> 00:15:07,607 AND I THOUGHT, AT LEAST 308 00:15:07,707 --> 00:15:09,909 IN THIS SETTING, 309 00:15:10,010 --> 00:15:12,179 YOU MIGHT JUST HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME. 310 00:15:12,279 --> 00:15:13,813 SO YOU DIDN'T WANT TO COME HERE, 311 00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:15,648 BUT YOU THOUGHT THIS WAS A PLACE 312 00:15:15,748 --> 00:15:19,319 YOU MIGHT GET ME TO LISTEN. 313 00:15:19,419 --> 00:15:20,753 YEAH? 314 00:15:20,853 --> 00:15:22,555 YEAH. 315 00:15:22,655 --> 00:15:25,058 BUT HAVING GINA HERE 316 00:15:25,158 --> 00:15:29,096 HAS HELPED ME TO REALIZE THAT MANY OF MY FEELINGS... 317 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:32,932 ARE IN FACT LEGITIMATE. 318 00:15:35,802 --> 00:15:38,038 SO YOU THINK THAT HAVING GINA HERE 319 00:15:38,138 --> 00:15:40,573 TO LISTEN TO US SQUABBLE-- 320 00:15:40,673 --> 00:15:42,309 PAUL. 321 00:15:45,145 --> 00:15:46,879 BEING HERE WITH GINA 322 00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:49,716 HELPS YOU REALIZE 323 00:15:49,816 --> 00:15:53,286 THAT YOUR FEELINGS ARE... LEGITIMATE. 324 00:15:54,021 --> 00:15:55,989 YEAH. 325 00:15:57,224 --> 00:16:00,693 AND I ALSO HAVE BEGUN TO UNDERSTAND 326 00:16:00,793 --> 00:16:02,529 THAT MY... 327 00:16:05,598 --> 00:16:07,467 INVOLVEMENT WITH EDWARD 328 00:16:07,567 --> 00:16:11,038 WAS MOST LIKELY 329 00:16:11,138 --> 00:16:14,041 SOME KIND OF REACTION 330 00:16:14,141 --> 00:16:16,476 TO THINGS I'VE BEEN CARRYING WITH ME 331 00:16:16,576 --> 00:16:18,645 FOR MANY MANY YEARS. 332 00:16:21,181 --> 00:16:23,816 YOU THINK THAT CHEATING ON ME WITH EDWARD 333 00:16:23,916 --> 00:16:25,885 WAS A REACTION TO SOMETHING FROM YOUR CHILDHOOD? 334 00:16:25,985 --> 00:16:28,188 NO. PAUL, COME ON. 335 00:16:31,891 --> 00:16:33,826 OKAY. 336 00:16:33,926 --> 00:16:38,165 YOUR RELATIONSHIP... 337 00:16:39,699 --> 00:16:40,967 WITH EDWARD 338 00:16:41,068 --> 00:16:43,603 WAS A REACTION 339 00:16:43,703 --> 00:16:47,274 TO SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN CARRYING AROUND FOR YEARS? 340 00:16:47,374 --> 00:16:48,775 YEAH? 341 00:16:48,875 --> 00:16:51,244 YEAH. 342 00:16:51,344 --> 00:16:53,012 A REACTION TO WHAT, EXACTLY? 343 00:16:53,113 --> 00:16:55,415 DON'T ASK QUESTIONS. JUST LISTEN TO HER. 344 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:58,685 IMAGO. JESUS CHRIST, GINA. WHAT'S HAPPENED TO YOU? 345 00:16:58,785 --> 00:17:00,987 OKAY. OKAY. 346 00:17:01,088 --> 00:17:03,423 WHAT ELSE? 347 00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:07,527 I THINK GINA'S ALSO RIGHT THAT... 348 00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:12,832 YOUR THING WITH LAURA, 349 00:17:12,932 --> 00:17:15,668 THAT'S, UM... 350 00:17:15,768 --> 00:17:18,738 THAT'S A REACTION TO THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN CARRYING AROUND. 351 00:17:22,475 --> 00:17:24,111 PAUL. 352 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,815 Kate: CAN I...? 353 00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:36,089 WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT 354 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:40,893 I GET THAT IT'S NOT ALL YOUR FAULT. 355 00:17:40,993 --> 00:17:44,631 I GET THAT I HAVE DONE MY PART. 356 00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:48,301 AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SO BUSY 357 00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:51,938 TRYING TO BE ALWAYS YOUR GIRLFRIEND, 358 00:17:52,038 --> 00:17:53,740 YOUR WIFE, THE MOTHER... 359 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,077 AND I'VE NEVER... 360 00:17:58,778 --> 00:18:01,214 ( sighs ) 361 00:18:04,317 --> 00:18:07,987 THAT I JUST NEVER ALLOWED MYSELF 362 00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:11,090 TO BE KATE, REALLY. 363 00:18:11,191 --> 00:18:13,626 AND HOW CAN THAT POSSIBLY BE YOUR FAULT? 364 00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:20,733 SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS 365 00:18:20,833 --> 00:18:23,136 THAT YOU LET YOURSELF GET LOCKED INTO A KIND OF-- 366 00:18:24,671 --> 00:18:27,674 I DON'T KNOW-- DEPENDENT, MATERNAL ROLE? 367 00:18:29,342 --> 00:18:31,211 IT'S JUST HOW I SAW MYSELF, REALLY. 368 00:18:31,311 --> 00:18:32,912 I NEVER QUESTIONED IT. 369 00:18:33,012 --> 00:18:36,149 YOU KNOW, ALL THIS CARETAKING 370 00:18:36,249 --> 00:18:38,651 AND PLEASING OTHER PEOPLE, IT'S... 371 00:18:38,751 --> 00:18:42,054 YOU KNOW, ONLY FEELING SAFE AS ONE-HALF OF SOMETHING. 372 00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:45,692 AND EVEN LOOKING AT THE GAS BILL-- "MRS. DR. PAUL WESTON." 373 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:52,665 I GUESS IT NEVER EVEN OCCURRED TO ME 374 00:18:52,765 --> 00:18:54,934 THAT I HAD THE STRENGTH TO DO THINGS ON MY OWN. 375 00:18:55,034 --> 00:18:59,272 BUT KATE, YOU RUN A SHELTER FOR BATTERED WOMEN. 376 00:18:59,372 --> 00:19:03,009 YOU WORK WITH CODEPENDENTS, ALCOHOLICS, KIDS AT RISK. 377 00:19:03,109 --> 00:19:05,812 YOUR WORK HAS SUCH A POSITIVE EFFECT 378 00:19:05,912 --> 00:19:08,515 ON SO MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES. 379 00:19:12,018 --> 00:19:14,187 BUT THAT'S... 380 00:19:17,790 --> 00:19:18,958 PAUL? 381 00:19:19,058 --> 00:19:20,893 COULD YOU REFLECT? 382 00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:29,236 YOU FEEL THAT YOU'RE STUCK IN A... 383 00:19:31,003 --> 00:19:33,373 A MOTHERING ROLE, THAT YOU HAVE-- 384 00:19:33,473 --> 00:19:35,308 MAYBE BECAUSE YOU'RE MARRIED TO ME-- 385 00:19:35,408 --> 00:19:37,377 DEPRIVED YOURSELF 386 00:19:37,477 --> 00:19:39,812 OF A FULL, ROUNDED LIFE. 387 00:19:40,747 --> 00:19:42,582 USE HER OWN WORDS. 388 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,421 I LIKE WHAT HE JUST SAID. 389 00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:56,463 I HAVE... 390 00:19:59,466 --> 00:20:02,269 I HAVE DEPRIVED MYSELF 391 00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:05,538 OF A WELL-ROUNDED LIFE. 392 00:20:05,638 --> 00:20:08,341 BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN MARRIED TO YOU. 393 00:20:09,476 --> 00:20:11,378 ( breathes deeply ) 394 00:20:16,483 --> 00:20:18,651 KATE, ARE YOU OKAY? 395 00:20:19,886 --> 00:20:21,421 YEAH. 396 00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:23,956 MM-HMM. 397 00:20:28,495 --> 00:20:30,630 DO WE SWITCH AROUND NOW? 398 00:20:32,131 --> 00:20:33,700 YEAH. 399 00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:36,969 OKAY. 400 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:44,110 I WANT TO SAY 401 00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:46,613 THAT I WAS LISTENING TO YOU. 402 00:20:46,713 --> 00:20:48,681 AND THAT, UM... 403 00:20:51,851 --> 00:20:54,120 I HEAR YOU. 404 00:20:54,220 --> 00:20:56,523 IT HURTS ME TO REALIZE 405 00:20:56,623 --> 00:20:58,625 THAT I'VE BEEN MARRIED TO YOU FOR ALL THIS TIME 406 00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:01,260 AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU FELT THIS WAY. 407 00:21:01,361 --> 00:21:04,230 I SHOULD HAVE. 408 00:21:04,331 --> 00:21:07,367 AND I'M ANGRY 409 00:21:07,467 --> 00:21:09,669 AT MYSELF FOR THAT. 410 00:21:21,113 --> 00:21:24,884 I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT I FELT THIS WAY. 411 00:21:25,718 --> 00:21:27,053 OKAY? 412 00:21:27,153 --> 00:21:28,555 YEAH. 413 00:21:32,992 --> 00:21:34,594 I'M SCARED. 414 00:21:38,398 --> 00:21:39,799 I'M FRIGHTENED. 415 00:21:39,899 --> 00:21:41,668 ( chuckles ) 416 00:21:41,768 --> 00:21:44,070 I'VE HAD SO MANY PATIENTS WHO WERE IN THIS SITUATION, 417 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:46,072 IT'S ALMOST LIKE... 418 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,478 IT'S LIKE DEJA VU. 419 00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:56,516 AND WHERE THESE COUPLES END UP, 420 00:21:56,616 --> 00:21:59,586 WITH ONE PERSON LEAVING TO FIND THEMSELVES... 421 00:22:07,093 --> 00:22:10,329 I HEAR YOU SAYING 422 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:12,399 THAT YOU'RE AFRAID THAT I'LL LEAVE YOU. 423 00:22:12,499 --> 00:22:15,101 NO, I DIDN'T SAY... 424 00:22:15,201 --> 00:22:17,036 "LEAVE ME." 425 00:22:17,136 --> 00:22:18,871 IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? 426 00:22:34,253 --> 00:22:36,122 GINA, YOU SAID... 427 00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:38,925 ( chuckles ) THAT I MIGHT'VE PUSHED... 428 00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:45,197 KATE INTO HER... AFFAIR 429 00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:50,369 BECAUSE OF MY... FEELINGS FOR LAURA. 430 00:22:51,438 --> 00:22:53,339 MAYBE IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. 431 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,576 MY FEELINGS FOR LAURA WERE... 432 00:22:58,144 --> 00:22:59,946 THE REACTION 433 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,050 TO WHAT KATE'S BEEN GOING THROUGH 434 00:23:04,150 --> 00:23:05,652 HERSELF. 435 00:23:06,919 --> 00:23:10,790 WELL, YOU'RE BOTH GOING THROUGH SOMETHING. 436 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:12,759 SHE'S STRUGGLING WITH A DYNAMIC 437 00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:15,094 THAT EXISTED BEFORE YOU MET: 438 00:23:15,194 --> 00:23:18,498 TO CATER TO OTHERS, 439 00:23:18,598 --> 00:23:21,468 TO PLEASE, TO ADAPT TO OTHERS. 440 00:23:21,568 --> 00:23:25,337 AND YOUR PAST INFORMS THE WAY, UH... 441 00:23:25,438 --> 00:23:27,640 YOU ACT WITH LAURA. 442 00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:30,342 YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT YOUNGER WOMAN 443 00:23:30,443 --> 00:23:32,979 THAT YOU CAN NURTURE, WHO LOOKS UP TO YOU 444 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:35,047 THE WAY KATE USED TO. 445 00:23:43,189 --> 00:23:46,659 BUT THAT ALSO MAKES YOU CONFRONT THE SITUATION WITH YOUR FATHER, 446 00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:49,328 WHICH IS FRIGHTENING. 447 00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:51,030 YOU WERE 14 WHEN HE LEFT? 448 00:23:51,130 --> 00:23:53,733 - 15. - 15. 449 00:23:53,833 --> 00:23:56,703 YOUR MOTHER HAD A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN. 450 00:23:56,803 --> 00:23:58,971 YOU HAD TO TAKE CARE OF HER. 451 00:23:59,071 --> 00:24:01,908 SHE WAS GIVING YOU NOTHING IN RETURN. 452 00:24:02,008 --> 00:24:04,877 MAYBE YOU WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT 453 00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:06,613 IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH KATE-- 454 00:24:06,713 --> 00:24:08,881 LOOKING FOR THE MOTHERING 455 00:24:08,981 --> 00:24:11,450 THAT YOU DIDN'T GET. 456 00:24:11,551 --> 00:24:14,587 AT THE SAME TIME, 457 00:24:14,687 --> 00:24:16,589 YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOURSELF 458 00:24:16,689 --> 00:24:19,125 FROM NEEDING IT SO MUCH 459 00:24:19,225 --> 00:24:22,762 BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS THE RISK OF LOSING IT. 460 00:24:22,862 --> 00:24:27,567 AND SO YOU PULL AWAY, YOU BURY YOURSELF IN YOUR WORK. 461 00:24:27,667 --> 00:24:29,869 YOU WANT KATE THERE, YOU ALWAYS WANT HER THERE 462 00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:32,138 BUT YOU WANT HER AT ARM'S LENGTH. 463 00:24:35,508 --> 00:24:38,545 SO, MAYBE... 464 00:24:38,645 --> 00:24:40,880 NOW WE HAVE SOME IDEA... 465 00:24:42,682 --> 00:24:44,784 OF WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING BETWEEN YOU 466 00:24:44,884 --> 00:24:46,786 AND MAYBE NOW WE CAN JUST BEGIN 467 00:24:46,886 --> 00:24:50,122 TO STEER THE SHIP BACK ON COURSE? 468 00:24:53,626 --> 00:24:55,127 I DON'T KNOW. 469 00:24:55,227 --> 00:24:58,665 - MM-HMM. - Kate: I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW. 470 00:24:58,765 --> 00:25:01,133 I JUST FEEL THAT... 471 00:25:02,869 --> 00:25:06,505 WE'VE BEEN GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION FOR SO LONG, 472 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:11,811 MAYBE THE BEST THING WOULD BE FOR ME TO JUST GET OFF THE SHIP. 473 00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:17,750 WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? 474 00:25:19,151 --> 00:25:21,821 ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO LEAVE? 475 00:25:25,391 --> 00:25:27,259 I'M NOT SURE, PAUL. 476 00:25:37,069 --> 00:25:39,639 YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY-- 477 00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:43,109 AND I DON'T MEAN THIS IN A PATRONIZING WAY, 478 00:25:43,209 --> 00:25:46,579 BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON 479 00:25:46,679 --> 00:25:50,683 FOR COUPLES YOUR AGE TO BE AT THIS CROSSROADS. 480 00:25:50,783 --> 00:25:52,752 THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH 481 00:25:52,852 --> 00:25:56,923 ISN'T COMPLICATED AND PAINFUL. 482 00:25:57,023 --> 00:26:00,292 AND, LIKE PAUL SAID, IT DOES SOMETIMES END 483 00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:03,663 WITH SOMEONE LEAVING. 484 00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:07,834 BUT NO ONE HAS LEFT HERE YET. 485 00:26:07,934 --> 00:26:10,236 AND, THOUGH IT MAY NOT SEEM SO 486 00:26:10,336 --> 00:26:12,639 RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMENT, 487 00:26:12,739 --> 00:26:16,643 I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S QUITE READY TO LEAVE. 488 00:26:26,653 --> 00:26:28,487 OKAY, WELL, 489 00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:32,358 GIVE ME A CALL, 490 00:26:32,458 --> 00:26:34,794 AND LET ME KNOW ABOUT NEXT FRIDAY. 491 00:26:36,395 --> 00:26:37,697 OKAY. 492 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,902 THANKS, GINA. 493 00:26:53,379 --> 00:26:55,848 ( cell phone buzzing ) 494 00:26:58,718 --> 00:27:00,152 Gina: BYE, DEAR. 495 00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:06,458 HELLO? 496 00:27:06,558 --> 00:27:08,895 YES, THIS IS HE. 497 00:27:12,064 --> 00:27:13,666 MM-HMM. 498 00:27:21,741 --> 00:27:24,276 ( soft piano music playing )