1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:07,360 Hello. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Judi Dench, and of all the lines 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,960 I've ever had to say, I think my favourite is, 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,080 welcome to The Graham Norton Show! 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:23,040 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 5 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:39,440 Hello! Hi, hi, hi. Hello, everybody. Good evening! 6 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,520 You're very welcome. Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. 7 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,960 Welcome to the show, one and all. 8 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,120 Are you all missing Traitors on a Friday night? 9 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,360 I know! 10 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,240 Well, don't be sad, because hot foot from the Traitors round table, 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,480 singing for us later, it's James Blunt! 12 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,520 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,600 There he is! 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,520 He'll be performing his new single Circles. 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,960 And I promise you will be on the show, James. 16 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:07,920 We won't banish you at the last minute. 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,120 Thank you so much. It could happen! 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,760 But first, who are the faithfuls on my sofa tonight? 19 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,640 Well, this actor won an Emmy playing Seth Milchick in the hit 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,800 TV series Severance, and went deep in Mission Impossible: 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,040 The Final Reckoning. 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,520 Now he is getting into the Christmas spirit in Ebenezer. 23 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,240 It's Tramell Tillman! 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,240 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Hello, sir. Very nice to see you. Welcome, welcome, welcome. 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,120 Have a seat. Tramell Tillman. 27 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,800 She was Claire in Derry Girls, Lady Whistledown in Bridgerton 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,240 and a real doll in the Barbie movie. 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,520 Now starring in the latest instalment of the Bafta-winning 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,520 series I Am Helen, it's Nicola Coughlan, everyone! 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,120 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:02:01,080 Yeah! Hello. 33 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Lovely to see you. There you go, Nicola Coughlan. 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,440 Hello. 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,360 This Tony-, Olivier- and Emmy Award-winning Scottish star 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,240 dazzled as the MC in Cabaret, was a Bond villain in Goldeneye 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,120 and is king of the castle as host of the US Traitors. 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,760 Now returning to the stage in the classic My Fair Lady, 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,680 it is our very good friend Alan Cumming! 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,200 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 41 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Lovely to see you! 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,280 And this Oscar-winning legend has ruled the stage, 43 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,080 mastered Shakespeare, conquered Hollywood 44 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,560 and kept 007 in line as M. 45 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,600 Her new memoir recounts her life and work. 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,000 What a life, and what a lady. 47 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Please welcome the great Dame Judi Dench. 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,880 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 49 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:55,200 I've got you! There's a step. 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Thank you. 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,200 Thank you very much, everybody. 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't miss it! 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,320 I may do. Phew! 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,360 That could have been a very awkward opening to the show. 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,040 Welcome back, Judi Dench. 56 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Lovely to see you. Thank you. 57 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,520 I think did you say it's your 15th time on here? 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,960 It is! I can't believe that. 59 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,000 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 60 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,080 And... You invited me. 61 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,480 LAUGHTER. 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:31,360 Always! I haven't just crashed it, have I?! 63 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,280 Oh, Judi Dench is here, quick! Look busy! 64 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Put her on the end of the sofa! 65 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,320 And welcome back to Alan Cumming, welcome back to Nicola Coughlan. 66 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,080 Thank you. 67 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,520 A first time welcome to Tramell. 68 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,960 Yes, thank you for having me! 69 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,680 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Lovely to see you. 70 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,080 And a lot of people will know you, of course, 71 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,200 from Severance, the big hit show. Everyone loves Severance. 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,240 Yes, go on! 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,280 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Don't be shy! 75 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,160 And because of Severance, do people just want you to dance? 76 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,040 Yes. Please don't ask me. No, I'm not going to ask you. 77 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Cue the track! 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,720 No... LAUGHTER. 79 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,600 So, the dancing in season one, then in season two, the big 80 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,440 marching band, right? Yes, marching band. 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,200 Was that your idea? No, it was not my idea. 82 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,560 Not my idea, but... Then you have this weird link. 83 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,600 I do. 84 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,000 So I was in a marching band in high school. 85 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,040 Wow. 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:24,040 And what's really odd is that the uniforms in that 87 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,160 marching band sequence are the same colours as the uniform in my high 88 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,200 school marching band. 89 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,840 Now, we've got a picture of you in your high school... 90 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:32,280 Here we go. There you are. 91 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:33,960 Oh, my god! You look so cool! 92 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,280 Did you graduate from high school yesterday?! 93 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:39,920 You look younger now than you did in high school! 94 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:45,480 It's amazing! I played the saxophone. 95 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,800 That is such a hot look for you, Tramell. 96 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,480 Thank you. The saxophone or the plume? 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,120 The plume! LAUGHTER. 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Love a plume. 99 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Talking of glittering occasions, Dame Judi, 100 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,960 was it the Royal Premier... You don't have to call me Dame. 101 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,200 Oh, sorry. Just Judi. 102 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,720 Just Judi. 103 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,760 Judi. Judi. 104 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Judi and Alan, you were together for a... 105 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,720 Was at the Royal Premier of Goldeneye? 106 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,920 Yes, for Goldeneye... We were. 107 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,960 Yes, years ago, yeah. 108 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,000 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 109 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,400 Yeah, and it was so hilarious, because it was like... 110 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,440 I hadn't been... 111 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,320 It was the first James Bond film in ages, and so there 112 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:30,280 was a Royal Premier, and in those days, it was a long 113 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:37,440 time ago, I don't think they're quite as anal, 114 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,600 the Royals, that everything, but you've got these two... 115 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,760 Well, who knows?! He's our friend now, leave it! 116 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,400 You've got these two pages of sort of official royal etiquette, 117 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,560 faxed through, and it was very elaborate way of... 118 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,680 Ladies must curtsy in a very sort of 12 point way to curtsy, 119 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,080 and it said gentlemen should bow from the neck forward. 120 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,200 I was like, well, you're hardly going to bow from the neck back! 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,360 And we were standing in line at the thing, 122 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,240 and you were next to me, and I was like, I'm just 123 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,640 going to shake his hand. I'm not going to bow. 124 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,280 And you went, oh, I'm a dame, I'm going to bow. 125 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:08,160 And so we were chatting, and I told you about the bow 126 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,040 from the neck forward then, and so on the telly, there was, 127 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,480 like, Pierce Brosnan and Prince Charles, 128 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,600 and they were sort of talking like this, and between them 129 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,520 in the background are you and me going... 130 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,000 LAUGHTER. Laughing our heads off. 131 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,440 Talking of Pierce Brosnan, is it true he recently darkened your door? 132 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:33,400 He did, and I haven't seen him for a very long time, 133 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,560 and he suddenly rang one day, and said 134 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,440 I'm in your neck of the woods. Can I possibly see you? 135 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,880 I said, oh, I can't possibly think of anything nicer. 136 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,200 And he arrived at my house and I have a very small front door 137 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,560 at my house and he came along and I didn't realise he was coming. 138 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,680 He stood at the door and looked down, and what I have forgotten 139 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,600 is that my doormat says, I've been expecting 140 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,640 you, Mister Bond. LAUGHTER. 141 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,320 There it is! That's it! 142 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:03,440 APPLAUSE. 143 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Quite the welcome. Quite the welcome. 144 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:11,240 And, Nicola, I don't know if you know this, Judi, 145 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,920 but you and Nicola have worked together. 146 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,000 I do know it, only thanks to my grandson, who is here tonight. 147 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,040 I... Yes. 148 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Well, you tell the story. Yes, well, I... 149 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,320 So I'm a super fan of Judi and I was at the National Theatre 150 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,960 earlier in this year in The Playboy Of The Western World, 151 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,000 AUDIENCE MEMBER: Whoo! 152 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,200 And found out that Judi... 153 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:32,360 Oh, thank you very much! LAUGHTER. 154 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,680 That Judi and Ian were doing a talk there, and I sort of said, 155 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,120 can I go into the talk? 156 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,000 And they said, well, you might miss the half, and I went, 157 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,040 just don't tell anybody. 158 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,160 And then the talk finished and I sort of ran round the building 159 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,040 trying to find her, and you very kindly said hello to me, 160 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,920 and I sort of nervously said, we are in the same film! 161 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,840 And you went, are we? I went, yes! 162 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,520 You were a fridge! And you went... 163 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,440 Am I?! And I said, I really promise... 164 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,880 A fridge?! She was a fridge. 165 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:57,920 Yes! 166 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,600 In the Magic Faraway Tree, you play... 167 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,280 Sadly, you're not on the poster, Judi. 168 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,960 But you play a fridge. I do. 169 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,000 I didn't realise. 170 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,400 Sammy went to see it, and he came home after, 171 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,280 he said, I'll tell you what, Ma, suddenly you're in the middle 172 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,480 of it, playing the fridge! 173 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,880 And he is like, it says fridge - Judi Dench. 174 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:13,920 LAUGHTER. Yes! 175 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,760 And I thought, because it's The Magic Faraway Tree, 176 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,640 I thought it was some sort of magical fridge, but it's just 177 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,720 one of those fridges... Oh, it's just any old fridge. 178 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Well, it's got your voice in it. 179 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Yeah, which is good! 180 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,200 I feel like I've dropped acid or something. 181 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,200 What's going on? 182 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,240 LAUGHTER. APPLAUSE. 183 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,600 Let's get started tonight with Judi Dench's new memoir, 184 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,080 Is It Too Late To Make A Run For It? I've got it here. 185 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,960 Lovely. 186 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:50,000 It is out now, and I can tell you, it is the number 1 Sunday Times 187 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,960 bestseller for two weeks in a row. 188 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Congratulations. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 189 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,720 So... 190 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,840 But do you know what we beat only just by a short head? 191 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,880 What? Wallace and Gromit. 192 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:02,920 LAUGHTER. 193 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,840 But you beat it, that's the important thing. 194 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,200 Oh, yes, only by a very short head. 195 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,640 Now, it's written with your good friend Brendan O'Hay, 196 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,320 and he does a great job, and he asks you questions, 197 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:19,080 he prompts memories and stories. He does it by stealth. 198 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,960 He actually does it by stealth, because we are such great friends. 199 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,360 I mean, I didn't realise we'd already written a book. 200 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,200 LAUGHTER. 201 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,320 I didn't know that this was happening, and he'd crept up on me. 202 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,520 And that's what he did. 203 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,400 So does he come in and put the recorder down and say... 204 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,040 No, it's no recorder. Oh, yes, I think there is, actually. 205 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,720 LAUGHTER. But he kind of hides it. 206 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,400 You know, I'm not aware of it. 207 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:45,320 It's like just a very camp conversation. 208 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,000 OK, so you just have a cup of tea and then you just... 209 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,560 Yes, just, you know. OK. 210 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,720 But you don't know how long this book took, 211 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,840 because it just happened? I have actually no idea. 212 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,040 Well, I'll tell you now. 213 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,920 It takes it through kind of your whole life, and you talk 214 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,600 about your childhood in York. I do. 215 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,800 And you were quite cheeky. 216 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,680 This is a very sweet picture of you as a little girl. 217 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:05,720 ALL: Awww! 218 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,080 You look like one of the Von Trapp children from The Sound of Music! 219 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,160 LAUGHTER. 220 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,640 Oh, yes, you've got... 221 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,920 The teeth. 222 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,960 Gorgeous. 223 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Oh, it's appalling. 224 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,320 LAUGHTER. 225 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:24,240 You began performing very young. What was your first role? 226 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,360 Was it the nativity or the snail? A snail. 227 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,440 The snail was the first one? Yes. 228 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,640 Does everybody know that rhyme... 229 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,600 I've never known whether it was tailors or sailors. 230 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:42,560 Four and 20 tailors went to kill a snail, 231 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,560 the best man amongst them dares't not touch her tail. 232 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:47,480 She put out her horns like a little... 233 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,560 Cowrie cow, I'm not sure. 234 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:52,920 Run, tailors, run, or she'll catch you all ere now. 235 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,600 Where does that come from? Your head! 236 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,640 LAUGHTER. 237 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,160 APPLAUSE. I didn't do any of that. 238 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,840 I didn't do any reciting. 239 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,200 I was just the snail, and all I had to do was be in a big shell, 240 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:13,160 and at a certain point go... And then they all ran away. 241 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,400 And my pa made me the most incredible shell out of buckram. 242 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,560 I don't expect anyone knows what that is now. 243 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:25,160 It's a kind of hessian, I think. No, it was like a kind of cardboard. 244 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,840 Oh, I see. It was a huge shell tied round me. 245 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,160 So I didn't have to do anything except lie down and go like that. 246 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,800 And of course, rehearsing is one thing. 247 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,960 The night that you get your parents there and 248 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,480 everybody is quite another. Yes. 249 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,440 So I sat there and then I suddenly heard this noise, 250 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:50,600 and so stood up like that, and I heard the headmistress from 251 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,200 the side saying, "get down, Judi!" 252 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,480 Get down! That's all I remember. 253 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,840 There is no end to the story. 254 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,480 What happened to the sailors of the tailors, I don't know. 255 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,680 No. But you got down. 256 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:05,120 A resounding disaster. 257 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,480 But that idea of, you know, not doing what you were told on stage, 258 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,600 is a real theme in the book. 259 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,520 There's a story you tell, you were in a musical called 260 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,200 The Good Companion with John Mills. Oh! 261 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,600 I can see that. Can you? 262 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,600 Yes, I can see that that's the car. Yes, you in the car. 263 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,840 Good heavens. 264 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,760 But there was an actor who will remain... 265 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Is nameless in the book and will remain nameless, 266 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,160 that you didn't get on with. You and John you took against him. 267 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,200 No, we didn't. 268 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,440 No, we didn't take against him, but he didn't behave very well. 269 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,200 OK. And you and John decided to... 270 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,720 There was a number where there were a lot of passengers 271 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,720 and all standing in a row, and they all had suitcases, 272 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,000 and there was a point where they all went like that 273 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,120 and down, and so Johnny Mills and I got hold of two stage 274 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,800 weights and we put them inside this particular case... 275 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,840 What?! 276 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,240 So that when the man... He went... 277 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,920 LAUGHTER. 278 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,480 APPLAUSE. 279 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:14,520 It shouldn't be encouraged. 280 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,880 As I say, there are more stories than you think 281 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,320 like that in this book. You are very naughty. 282 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,440 Now, one of the other things that really strikes me in this book 283 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,680 is, you are fearless. 284 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:25,360 Like, you like a challenge, don't you? 285 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,200 Yes. For instance... 286 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:32,560 I'm not fearless, though. Oh, no? 287 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,480 OK. No, I'm not fearless. 288 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,760 Well, brave? I get very, very frightened. 289 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,680 But there's something about being that... 290 00:13:42,680 --> 00:13:45,320 Even my palms now are very wet. They're quite moist, yeah. 291 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,360 LAUGHTER. 292 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,400 Talk to us about... 293 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,800 Because we'll talk to you, as well, Alan, about this, 294 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,960 but the West End debut of Cabaret the musical... 295 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,000 Oh, yeah. 296 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,640 You were not a musical star, but you played Sally Bowles. 297 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,680 Yes. 298 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:58,760 So was everyone very shocked that Judi Dench 299 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,280 was appearing in a musical? 300 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,520 No, I don't think they were aware one way or another. 301 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,640 I thought some people thought it was quite surprising... 302 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,080 I thought it was quite surprising! 303 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Yes, because Hal Prince, the great Hal Prince, 304 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,920 who was directing it, he reached out to you. 305 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,440 Yes, suddenly I was asked by my agent to go and see him, 306 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:24,400 and he said, you know, I'm going to take a big risk, 307 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,680 but Michael Bentoul had said that to me when I went to the Old Vic 308 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,080 too, so, you know... But did you have to sing 309 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,720 at the audition, when you met Hal Prince, did you sing? 310 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,880 Yes, I think I did. I can't remember what. 311 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,800 Maybe happy birthday to you. I'm not sure. 312 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,000 It was something pretty feeble. 313 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,120 Do you know, when I did Cabaret for the first time in London, 314 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,800 it was sort of a similar thing. 315 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,440 People were saying, oh, you know, he's not done musicals before. 316 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,080 They were actually saying, I don't think this role should be 317 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,280 played by a straight actor. 318 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,960 I was like, well, darling, you're fine! 319 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,520 LAUGHTER. 320 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,360 But it was a funny thing. 321 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,760 I think less so now, but in those days, especially, 322 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,640 it was more like you either did musicals or you did plays... 323 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,680 Yeah. 324 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,120 ..and it was sort of shocking... 325 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Yes. ..for someone to sort of dip over. 326 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:09,560 Did you sing, Nicola? 327 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,600 A bit. 328 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,080 I'm not Beyonce, like. 329 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,440 I'm not going to... 330 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,520 James Blunt, move over, I'm here! 331 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,000 LAUGHTER 332 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,880 But I listened to both of you in Cabaret all the time. 333 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,360 You're on Spotify, did you know? 334 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,360 Singing Don't Tell Mama. 335 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,280 And I listened to that a million times. 336 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,320 What is Spotify? 337 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,760 I don't know what it is! 338 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:27,800 It's a music streamer. 339 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,480 It's somewhere you can listen to music. 340 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Oh, right. Oh, right. 341 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,680 There's a cheque for about £15 waiting for you! 342 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,720 Yeah. 343 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 344 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,640 And there's a legal video of you doing Cabaret at the Donmar, 345 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:38,840 which I also have watched. 346 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Because it's my favourite musical, so... 347 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,200 Oh, is it? Oh, yes, very much so. 348 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 349 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,920 Tramell, you do do musicals, don't you? 350 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:45,960 I do. Oh, wow! 351 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,200 I do. I sing. 352 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,400 Have you done Cabaret? Yeah. 353 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,040 No, I have not. 354 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,720 Well, I... Get with the programme, Tramell! 355 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,640 I'm working on it, I'm working on it. 356 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,760 It's actually one of the roles I would love to play, The Emcee. 357 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,520 Oh, you'd be great. 358 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Throw it out there. Throw it out there. 359 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Judi, in the book, you talk about your experience 360 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,320 with Stephen Sondheim, when you were in 361 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,320 A Little Night Music. 362 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,480 It's weird because we've talked about quite a few 363 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,520 of your musicals... Oh! 364 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:15,000 ..but you sing that amazing song, Send in the Clowns. 365 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,640 And, you know, you say you're not really a singer, but... 366 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,680 I'm not, I'm not. 367 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,880 But Sondheim songs are difficult. 368 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,760 How did you approach, you know, a big standard song like that? 369 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,760 I don't know. 370 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,880 It just, you know, comes the day and you're expected to do it. 371 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Yeah. 372 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,560 You've practised it a bit and you just keep your fingers 373 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,000 crossed and hope for the best. 374 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,360 But a wonderful thing, I had to sing it sitting on a great big bed, 375 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:42,120 which had a counterpane made of red roses on it. 376 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,240 And Patsy Rodenburg, who taught Voice at the National, 377 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:53,200 said the most marvellous thing that I've never forgotten. 378 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,840 She said, "Put under that bed and under that 379 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:05,800 counterpane, put a board, a quite substantial board." 380 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,760 And do you know, it's like, you know, it's no good sitting 381 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,160 on this and singing, you'd have to have a bit 382 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,200 of support somehow. 383 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,400 And I've never forgotten that. 384 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,920 And it did make an incredible difference to how I felt about it. 385 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,960 Yeah. 386 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,160 A board, under the counterpane. 387 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,600 It's an extraordinary thing, isn't it? 388 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,520 But it did, it made me feel better. 389 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,640 And then you did this very famous performance of Send in the Clowns. 390 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,320 Was it for Stephen Sondheim's 80th birthday? 391 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Oh! 392 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,560 At the Albert Hall? Yes. 393 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,440 It was. Yeah. 394 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,040 Now, you may not want to tell us this, but he did say a lovely 395 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,080 thing to you afterwards. 396 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,240 He said to you, "That song is yours now." 397 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,280 Oh, wow! 398 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,320 Didn't he? 399 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,800 He did. 400 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:45,840 APPLAUSE 401 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,560 Yeah, it's in the book, it's in the book. 402 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,680 Well, just to give us all a treat, we've got a little clip... 403 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,920 Oh! 404 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,800 We've got a little clip of you singing Send in the Clowns 405 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,040 on that very special night at the Royal Albert Hall. 406 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,360 Cover your ears, here we go. 407 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:07,960 # Isn't it rich? 408 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,400 # Isn't it queer? 409 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:20,360 # Losing my timing this late in my career 410 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,280 # And where are the clowns? 411 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,080 # There ought to be clowns. 412 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,960 # Well... 413 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:42,920 # Maybe next year #. 414 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,320 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 415 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,000 Really beautiful. 416 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,360 Oh, Nicola's gone! 417 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:03,840 Are you all right? 418 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,480 Nicola's crying. 419 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,880 We've got more tissues. 420 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,000 Oh! 421 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,040 You're very good, aren't you? 422 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:20,120 LAUGHTER 423 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:21,720 That was gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous. 424 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,120 Listen, we're going to stay with musicals because Alan Cumming 425 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:27,000 brings us a new production of one of the greatest musicals ever 426 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,040 written, My Fair Lady. 427 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,080 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 428 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,520 This production runs from the 21st 429 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,800 of November to the 31st of December at the Pitlochry Festival Theatre. 430 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,000 So you're giving, you're Professor... 431 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,040 Eliza Doolittle. 432 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:43,280 Eliza Doolittle, yes! 433 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,920 I'm giving my Henry Higgins, yeah. Wow! 434 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,360 Is this kind of something you always wanted to play, 435 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:48,520 or is it a surprise? 436 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,560 It's a big surprise. 437 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,440 I mean, really, how it happened was Maria Friedman is directing it, 438 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,560 and I saw her, she directed this production of Merrily We Roll Along, 439 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,960 Sondheim show, that I saw on Broadway, with Dan Radcliffe. 440 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,320 And it was just so beautiful, and a show that I sort of hadn't 441 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,080 really understood before. 442 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,760 And they made it so clear and it was just... 443 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,200 So I'm Artistic Director of Pitlochry Festival Theatre, 444 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,360 so when I started, I thought, I want to do these big titles, 445 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:16,240 as well as other known things. 446 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,320 But if I'm going to do a big title like My Fair Lady, 447 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,160 I want to do it with someone who will give it a kick in the pants 448 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,280 and do what I felt Maria had done to Merrily We Roll Along. 449 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Yeah. 450 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,440 So I asked her if she would, what she would like to do, 451 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,560 and she said she would like to do My Fair Lady, if I 452 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,600 played Henry Higgins. 453 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,760 So I was kind of bribed into doing it! 454 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,920 But I just said, "Yeah, OK, I'll do it." 455 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,560 So it's kind of funny, you know, like, playing a character 456 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,960 that is so iconic and kind of associated kind of 457 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,000 with one person, really. 458 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,440 Do you know what I mean? 459 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Rex Harrison is so indelible in it in the movie. 460 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,240 And so it's been fascinating - we're in rehearsals now, 461 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,160 still - trying to find... 462 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,680 I mean, I guess it's like when I did Cabaret, 463 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,600 The Emcee was so associated with someone else, 464 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,280 and I just kind of did it... 465 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,720 You know, you just go with your gut and you just do it how 466 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,080 you think it should be done. 467 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,120 Sounds amazing. 468 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:10,520 But that is, I believe, completely sold out, isn't it? 469 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,560 Yes. Yes, it is. 470 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Oh, wow! 471 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,240 But if people want to plan a trip to Pitlochry - 472 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,400 and they should, because it's gorgeous - what treats 473 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,600 are in store next year? 474 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,240 Well, I'm going to do the big sell for next year. 475 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,160 Yeah, come on, you're Artistic Director, come on! 476 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,080 So in January, we have our LGBT Festival. 477 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,720 That was the first thing I programmed, was a queer festival. 478 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,920 Like, the times are a'changing! 479 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,360 Which you very kindly came to. 480 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,040 Yeah, no, it was really good fun. 481 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,960 Then we have a Writers' Festival in February. 482 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,120 Then we're doing Absent Friends, the Alan Ayckbourn show. 483 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:38,520 Then we're doing 9 to 5, the Dolly Parton Musical. 484 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,560 Oh, great! 485 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,440 Then we're doing this show called Supernova with me and Ewan McGregor. 486 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,360 Oh, there's the poster for that one, yes. 487 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:45,400 Yes, we are lovers. 488 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,520 And, you know, I've got Alzheimer's, as you can see by my gaze 489 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,560 in that picture there. 490 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,040 LAUGHTER 491 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,240 And then we're doing some other things. 492 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,880 I can't remember the rest, but a lot of exciting things. 493 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:58,920 Amazing. 494 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,120 And, Judi, been, not been? 495 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:02,240 No, I'm not old enough, darling! 496 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,640 LAUGHTER 497 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,680 You're saving it. 498 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,120 No, I have never been, actually. 499 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:07,560 But it has a wonderful reputation. 500 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,800 Yes, yes, it does. 501 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,480 And it sounds such a glorious place. 502 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,080 It's magical. 503 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,200 It's sort of like, it's sort of like Brigadoon. 504 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,920 Like, you go across this rickety bridge, and there's a river 505 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,560 and a dam and all this, and there's this amazing theatre. 506 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,040 It's sort of insane. Yeah. 507 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,480 Because, Judi, you love Scotland. 508 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Like, in the book, you talk about how you said yes to Mrs Brown 509 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,760 because you wanted to spend time in Scotland. 510 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,600 That's absolutely right, yes. 511 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,880 "Oh, I'd like to be in Scotland, that would be absolutely... 512 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,760 Yes, I would like to be there, that would be absolutely won... 513 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,760 What's the part?" 514 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,840 LAUGHTER 515 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,880 It was a bit like that. 516 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,120 Because in terms of, you know, accepting, 517 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:53,320 saying yes to things, what was it like? 518 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,720 You got the call to do the final Mission: Impossible. 519 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,920 I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 520 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,840 Did it just come out of the blue? 521 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,760 Well, it didn't come out of the blue. 522 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,160 I worked for many, many years. Oh, yeah, it wasn't... 523 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,200 LAUGHTER 524 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,240 Yeah. 525 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,880 "You, there!" 526 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,920 APPLAUSE 527 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:08,960 Yeah. 528 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Well, Christopher McQuarrie, who directed the final 529 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:18,360 Mission: Impossible, was a big fan of Severance. 530 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,720 And he had called me one day and said, "Hey, 531 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,840 I just want you to know that I have a role for you 532 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,880 in this franchise." 533 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,080 And I played it cool. 534 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,760 I said, "Well, I don't know, McQuarrie. 535 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,440 I'm kind of busy filming right now." 536 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,080 And then I said, "Well, tell me more about the role. 537 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,120 What is it about?" 538 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:35,280 And he said, "Well, I can't give you everything, 539 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,400 you know, it's under NDAs, but I just want to let you know 540 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,040 that there is something for you and it may have some 541 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,080 meat to it." 542 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,680 So I was like, "OK, well, I'll take a look at it and I'll see." 543 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,800 And I got off the phone and called my team and I said, 544 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,240 "We have to make this happen!" 545 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,280 LAUGHTER 546 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,320 "It has to happen!" 547 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,240 And it just materialised into this beautiful project, 548 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,200 and I got to work with Tom Cruise. 549 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,840 Now, I've heard you talking about it... 550 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,240 Because a lot of people, some people know about this, 551 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,440 some people don't, but there's this famous Tom Cruise 552 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,440 cake that people get. 553 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,480 Yes. 554 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,160 And I've heard you talk about this. 555 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,200 Yes. 556 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,840 So you are on the list, you're not on the list? 557 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,880 I'm on the list. 558 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,920 Oh, wow! 559 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,960 You're on the list! 560 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,000 Hey! 561 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,040 AUDIENCE: Woo! 562 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,080 APPLAUSE 563 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,720 But you thought for a while you weren't on the list? 564 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,360 Well, I was not, I was not originally on the list, 565 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,280 but then I talked to Tom Cruise's nephew... 566 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,320 LAUGHTER 567 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,960 ..and I said, "You know, hey, what's up with the cake?" 568 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Right, right, right! 569 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,160 And he was like, "You didn't get the cake?" 570 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,080 I was like, "I didn't get the cake." 571 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,000 He was like, "OK, don't worry about it." 572 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,400 And then I got a phone call that said there 573 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,840 was a package at my doorstep. 574 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,880 Ooh! 575 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,920 And I rushed home... 576 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,960 Is that a euphemism? 577 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,000 LAUGHTER 578 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,880 Well, after I got THAT package, I went for the other package... 579 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:45,920 LAUGHTER 580 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,360 ..and that was the coconut cake. 581 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:48,400 Well! 582 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,040 Because you've work with Tom Cruise as well, haven't you, Alan? 583 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,200 Yeah, and I never got a bloody cake, no! 584 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,120 Did you get a cake from Tom Cruise? 585 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:56,560 No, I've never worked with him. 586 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,760 Oh, well, then. That's fine. 587 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,200 It makes me feel slightly better. 588 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,240 LAUGHTER 589 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,920 What kind, is it a coconut cake? 590 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,600 It's coconut cake. Do you like coconut? 591 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,640 Yeah. OK. 592 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,520 But I'm vegan, so probably, I wouldn't be able to have it. 593 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,200 You probably wouldn't be able to. Yeah. 594 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,880 Well, I'm pretty sure it's not vegan. 595 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,560 He must send out thousands of cakes. 596 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,600 It seems like everybody... 597 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,200 Maybe I just watch your show a lot, but it seems like everybody I know 598 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,640 on your show has got a cake from Tom Cruise. 599 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Did you get one too? 600 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:21,840 Bitch! 601 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:22,880 APPLAUSE 602 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,920 Why, Tom, why?! 603 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,840 Why am I not going to get one? 604 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,000 I'll send you a slice, Alan! Is it nice? 605 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,040 No, it's very nice. 606 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,640 I don't know what is in it, but it lasts for a really long time. 607 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Did you notice that? Yeah, it was good. 608 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,600 Yeah, months. It stays. 609 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,280 You'll get one, Nicola, you'll get one. 610 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,720 One day! Judi doesn't want one. 611 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,880 Listen, we are moving on because Nicola Coughlan's latest 612 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,280 drama is I Am Helen. 613 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,640 Now, this starts on Monday the 16th of November at 9pm and the second 614 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,040 part is on Tuesday the 17th at 9:15pm and both 615 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,280 parts are on Channel 4. 616 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,040 So I guess we're going to start with, who is Helen? 617 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,520 So Helen, it's a very unusual project. 618 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,160 The I Am series are a series created by Dominic Savage, 619 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,200 who is a film-maker. 620 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,600 And you sort of come up with the story together, 621 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,280 but all the dialogue is completely improvised. 622 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,440 Oh, it was terrifying. 623 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,080 It was funny because I don't suffer from nerves very much. 624 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,520 I'm very lucky in that respect. 625 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,400 But every day, I would go in and I would feel sick 626 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,560 and I thought, can I pull a sickie today? 627 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,480 I don't know if I can do this. 628 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,160 They deal with quite tough subject matter. 629 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,800 So this is a couple, Helen and Steve, who is played 630 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,200 by Joe Cole, and they've been together about five years. 631 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,320 And at the very beginning, it sort of is in an intimate moment, 632 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,360 things take a turn. 633 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,280 And then it sort of develops from that. 634 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,200 Listen, we've got a clip of the trailer. 635 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,600 This is you and Joe Cole in I Am Helen. 636 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:45,560 Are you two in good place? 637 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,040 Um... 638 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,680 I think we need to have a bit of a chat. 639 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,720 OK. 640 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,840 Yeah, I'm just not making you happy and you deserve to be happy. 641 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,760 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. No, no, no. 642 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,440 It's tough, man. It's tough for blokes. 643 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,360 And you're made to be the bad guy. 644 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,000 I have been with you five years, you have never pulled 645 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,040 something like that! 646 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,080 Shut up, woman! 647 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,240 It'll be OK. It's just, it's a rough patch. 648 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,280 Helen? Open the door! 649 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,680 Steve, there has been a big change in your behaviour. 650 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,880 Everything I do annoys you. 651 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,320 I can't do anything right! Man! 652 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,000 Oh, I'm just a stupid Lego man! 653 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,040 What should I do? 654 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,080 Steve! 655 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,760 Have I not always been this person? 656 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,920 I feel like he needs me to need him. 657 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,360 And it's not who I am. 658 00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:25,400 Wow! 659 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,440 APPLAUSE 660 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,560 You are so good in it, really good, Nicola. 661 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,240 And you're following in really impressive footsteps. 662 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,760 Oh, ridiculous! 663 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,400 The I Am has been Kate Winslet, Vicky McClure, Lesley Manville. 664 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,040 Sam Horton. Yeah. 665 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,680 So that was also sort of like, when can I quit? 666 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840 I can't do it, I need to go home! 667 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,880 But Dominic is amazing. 668 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,040 And so it's improvised dialogue, but also, he works 669 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,840 with you on the actual character, the story? 670 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,160 It's a very unusual process because you film... 671 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,760 I think it was three weeks we filmed for and we did a 75-minute take, 672 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,440 which is just unheard-of. Oh, my God! 673 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,480 An extremely long take. 674 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,120 I feel like five minutes would be an extremely long take. 675 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,160 But 75 minutes. 676 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,600 Dominic sort of guiding you through. 677 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,960 But you sort of don't really know what it is until you see it 678 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,640 because there is footage that isn't used. 679 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,680 Yeah, very unusual. 680 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,840 Do you say things like, oh, is it OK? 681 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,600 We're going to go back? 682 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,760 No. You just keep at it the entire time? 683 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,800 It's quite mad, yeah. 684 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,680 And the way that Dominic works, you don't film on any set. 685 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,880 So everything is... Any what? 686 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,920 Any sets. Oh, yeah. 687 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,960 So the flat... 688 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,640 Sorry! 689 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,000 The flat that we were in was a real couple's flat who we met 690 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,120 and at one point during it, I was having this argument with Joe 691 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,640 in character and he sort of went and punched the fridge, 692 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,040 an aluminium fridge, and left a full print in it. 693 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,680 And then I was genuinely, it is quite stressful to film 694 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,320 something like that, so I went and I got some water 695 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,000 from the fridge and I drank it. 696 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,680 And afterwards, the props department said, that's 697 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,600 actually the couple's water, you can't have that. 698 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,520 And I thought, Joe Cole punched the fridge! 699 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,920 That's not fair! And it is a really intense watch. 700 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,320 It is a very intense watch, yes. It really is. 701 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,360 On a lighter note... 702 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,040 So that is on Channel 4 soon. 703 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,680 But on a lighter note, you have another project coming up. 704 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,320 You are in the next Only Murders in the Building . 705 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,360 Yes, yes. 706 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,400 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 707 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,440 Oh, my God! 708 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,640 Honestly, it was very unexpected. 709 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,720 It's a show I love and I watch with my mum at home and she is very 710 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,920 picky about what she watches. 711 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,880 We love watching it together. 712 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,360 I had auditioned for something and my agent called me 713 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,040 and I thought, maybe it is that. 714 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,440 "Oh, you didn't get that, you are wrong for that, 715 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,360 but this is an offer about something else." 716 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,680 "OK." 717 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:35,880 Maybe 718 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,760 And then it sort of started filming the next week or something, 719 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,640 and I'm sort of sat at this table across from Steve Martin 720 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,520 and Martin Short and Selena Gomez, and I'm like, what's going on? 721 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,680 I mean, it's a ridiculous cast. The green room... 722 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,320 I was sitting there one day, and I had Olivia Colman 723 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,440 to my right and Richard E Grant and Geri Halliwell and Steve Martin. 724 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,840 I thought... And I was like, what is this like? 725 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,760 And I was like, oh, it's Madame Tussauds. 726 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,800 LAUGHTER. It's too weird. 727 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,920 Everyone's too famous, and it's too wild, but it was amazingly good fun. 728 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,600 And is everyone a bit kind of... 729 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,520 Because they are kind of such big stars. 730 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,960 Yeah. Is it fun at all? 731 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,840 It's genuinely really fine, but, God, Steve and Marty have the most 732 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,040 stamina of anyone I've ever... 733 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,480 Like, they never complain, they never... 734 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,680 They always have dinner plans. 735 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,520 I am at the end of the day, I'm like being lifted out of the chair. 736 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,440 I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so tired! 737 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,600 Marty's like, I'm going for dinner with Goldie Hawn! 738 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,520 And you're like... Jesus, fair play to you! 739 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,200 I'm going to bed! They're incredible, yeah. 740 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,600 So it really was so much fun. I loved it. 741 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,760 Talking of American icons, Judi, you got to work 742 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,960 with one in Esio Trot. 743 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,880 Do you remember Esio Trot, the movie? 744 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,760 It's the one with the tortoise. Oh, yes! 745 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,800 Yes. 746 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,360 Oh, yes. The tortoise. 747 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,120 Yes. And Dustin Hoffman. 748 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,440 And Dustin Hoffman. 749 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,680 Oh, there you are. 750 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,960 Am I? 751 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,640 It's you in an elevator looking cute. 752 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,680 Am I? 753 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,400 Gorgeous. 754 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,080 Is the tortoise there? No. 755 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,240 No tortoise... Welcome it might be on the ground. 756 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,280 We don't know. 757 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,960 But, now, you liked working with Dustin, 758 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:04,200 because he was the right height. 759 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,400 SHE LAUGHS. Is that right? 760 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,080 That's not why I liked it! LAUGHTER. 761 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,480 No, but it was lovely, not having to do that. 762 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,520 All the time. 763 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,400 It was lovely to almost be able to look straight at somebody. 764 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,280 Have you had to stand on boxes a lot in your career? 765 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,240 Yes. Oh, yeah. 766 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,400 Yes. Well, do you have to stand on boxes? 767 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Of course, yeah. 768 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,880 It's like... 769 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,040 and they're called apple boxes, and sometimes they go, 770 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,440 there is a half apple, a double apple or whatever, 771 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,320 and when they go for half, I go, I'm not that short! 772 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,480 Yes, that's just to trip you up! Yes, exactly! 773 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,520 LAUGHTER. 774 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,920 But, Judi, so you like acting opposite a smaller man, 775 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,600 but I wouldn't say you are obsessed... 776 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,760 Well, I like acting opposite a tall man too. 777 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,200 Well, you certainly like tall men. 778 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,360 You've developed this thing, you like having your picture 779 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:46,680 taken with tall men. 780 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,960 taken with tall men. 781 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,440 It's because I met a very, very beautiful painter 782 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,120 called Mark Bradford, who is amazingly tall, 783 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,680 and we had a photograph taken. Have you got that here? 784 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,720 Yes. Oh, wow! 785 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,840 Oh, my god! 786 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,480 You see, we had a photograph taken. It's like you've shrunk! 787 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,640 I can only say, I look like something that 788 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,080 you throw for the dog. LAUGHTER. 789 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,400 He is immensely tall. So now, I cannot resist going... 790 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Yes, we've got a few of them. Oh, Lord, you haven't. 791 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,320 This is you with Stephen Fry. Yes, yes. 792 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,960 This next man is Darren Moorcroft, the CEO of Woodland Trust. 793 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,400 Yes, yes. And he is very tall. 794 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,280 And CEO of the Woodland Trust, quite suitable. 795 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,360 Yes, yes. Yes. 796 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,600 LAUGHTER. 797 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,880 APPLAUSE. 798 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,960 Very good! 799 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,080 And I think you were getting on a plane recently and you met 800 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,880 a guy who works for BA. 801 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,840 Oh, wow! LAUGHTER. 802 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:52,680 I'm just amazed they make a BA uniform that big! 803 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,640 but there is a picture of me with somebody, a very tall man that I met 804 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:04,120 at our local farm shop, and I don't know his name. All I can tell you 805 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,720 is, just out of the picture is a very, very cross wife! 806 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:14,680 LAUGHTER. Amazing! How dare you! Living. 807 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:20,120 Going up and saying, do you mind if we have a photo... No, not you, 808 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,400 sorry. So when you see a tall person, do 809 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,880 you go and ask them? If they are exceptionally tall, yes. 810 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,520 Only exceptionally. Well, there are a lot of them about! 811 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,880 All right, you might have noticed the clocks have gone back, so it's 812 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,040 time for the first Christmas movie of the season. Tramell Tillman, yes, 813 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:45,120 Tramell Tillman brings us Ebenezer, in cinemas from November the 13th. 814 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,480 This is A Christmas Carol, but it's kind of not what people expect, is 815 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,200 it? No, it's a little different, it's a 816 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,320 modern take, but still set in the 1800s in London. 817 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,640 Yes. Who do you play? I play Christmas Present. 818 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,600 The ghost of! You are a ghost Amartya? It is to be ghost. 819 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,720 My ago is now?! Know, when you said Christmas 820 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,960 present to my thought, how I misremembered it? You are all 821 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,720 ghosts. Yes, the ghost of Christmas present. 822 00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:16,560 It is a Daka take? Yes, it is. It is a ghost story, so 823 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,760 we lean more into the spookiness of it. 824 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,560 There are kind of jump scares in. It is good fun. 825 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,200 It's fun, it is still a family picture. 826 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:30,560 And it is a great cast. And a rise but is in it, Ian McKellen, and as 827 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,520 Scrooge, Ebenezer Scrooge, Johnny Depp, who is kind of unrecognisable. 828 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,640 Fantastic, right? Yes! Well, we have got a clip. This 829 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,160 is you as the ghost of Christmas present teaching Ebenezer Scrooge 830 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,240 lesson. It's easy to forget that titles, 831 00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:56,480 wealth, admiration, are not proper measures for a man's worth. We often 832 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,560 think that if we can only earn a little more, climb a little 833 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,760 higher... What is wrong with the boy? 834 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:09,200 Do you not know his name? Why would I know the name of my last 835 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,480 child? Why would you not? 836 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:23,480 ... From what we loosen... Walls we built to protect 837 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,920 ourselves... Right, I get the point. 838 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,760 Sit. If you have more to show me,... 839 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,120 Sit down! I don't like it here. 840 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,080 Shut up! APPLAUSE 841 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:46,680 Ooh! Thank you. He's a bit saucy! A saucy 842 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,440 ghost. Yeah! It is an odd thing. You have 843 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,160 the full-circle moment with the marching band, but also, you have 844 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,480 been in a Christmas Carol more than once before? 845 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,720 Several times, several productions of it. At regional theatre. It's a 846 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:03,320 big hit. That is weird, isn't it? 847 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,600 They limited America. It is beautiful. One of you stories 848 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,080 you can bring your family too, a story of redemption, love and joy. 849 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,480 It's beautiful. We've got some pictures of you. 850 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,640 Here you are in Knoxville. Oh, yeah! Tennessee. I went to grad school 851 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,600 there. Did you?! 852 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,840 Yeah, I can't remember which... LAUGHTER 853 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:33,000 Wait, what happened in Knoxville? LAUGHTER. 854 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,760 It's also not far from Pigeon Forge. Dolly! 855 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:42,040 Dolly! Dollywood. Oh, I forgot to say that, 856 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,760 we are doing 95 the musical director you said that. 857 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,600 LAUGHTER APPLAUSE 858 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:55,640 It was a long time ago! You have said it all. 859 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,880 Yes, someone in Pitlochry, going, you never mentioned... 860 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,920 ! Thank you! But talking of acting, Judi Dench, 861 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,320 you are becoming a theatre? Oh, yes, I am! 862 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,080 You know this. I'm not becoming! 863 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,880 Yes, it's true. You are going to be open to the 864 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,160 public... LAUGHTER 865 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,680 At which theatre is it? It's the Shaftesbury. 866 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,560 Oh, wow! The Shaftesbury is becoming the Judi 867 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,640 Dench? Well, there we are! I have never 868 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,800 played in it, but I remember seeing Mikey in two into one air, and I 869 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,440 remember just crying with laughter, and that's the memory I've got of 870 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,440 that theatre. Isn't that lovely? 871 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,360 It's a very nice theatre. Is it going to be called the Dame 872 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,040 Judi Dench, or just Judi Dench? Do you know when it is happening? 873 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,920 I think it is happening in February. Soon, February, right? 874 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,120 Okay, we will keep an eye out for it! If we are passing on the bus, 875 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,200 keep an eagle eye on the building! That some exciting! Because they 876 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,240 don't normally do it to people who are alive. And a woman. Are there 877 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:15,200 many women? Know, and there is Maggie and Joan 878 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,920 playwright, and there are a lot of people who theatres should be named 879 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,800 after. Yeah. 880 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,760 But then's the breaks, it's you! LAUGHTER 881 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:30,120 APPLAUSE It's a lovely honour, Judy. 882 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:35,280 Could not happen to a nicer person. Judi Dench everybody! 883 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,120 APPLAUSE Okay! 884 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,400 It is time for music. This man's breakout album in 2004 with the 885 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,520 runaway hits on Your Beautiful made him one of the biggest British 886 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,560 artist of the decade. Now performing Circles from his new album Aeroplane 887 00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:01,480 Mode, it is James blunt! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. 888 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:07,000 # You just want a time to go # Take the redeye south, headed down 889 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:13,360 to Mexico # Do you ever want a brand-new start 890 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:20,680 # Because the person that you really are isn't who you are? 891 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:26,360 # Do you ever hear people talk about what's meant to be 892 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:32,200 # Walk away thinking, man, that isn't meant for me 893 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,440 # Sometimes life is too damn hard # But you know in your heavy heart 894 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:44,160 # It's too late to go back to the start 895 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:51,480 # So come and breathe it in # It's only in the dark 896 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:58,240 # You get to see the stars # If you wish your life for a better 897 00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:59,840 one # Well, you know full well it'll 898 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:09,840 never come to you # Do you ever count the walls as 899 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,480 they just you in? # While you referee a fight with who 900 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:19,840 you are and who you've been # And you want to keep your enemies 901 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,080 near # But it's only your voice you will 902 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:30,360 hear at 4am # So come and breathe the air 903 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,400 # The air's the medicine # It's only in the dark 904 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:42,040 # You get to see the stars # If you wish your life for a better 905 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,640 one # Well, you know full well it'll 906 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,000 never come # It'll never come 907 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:54,680 # It'll never come to you # You go round in circles 908 00:40:54,680 --> 00:41:05,720 # You go round in circles # You go round in circles 909 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:14,520 # Oh, oh # Because life is moving fast 910 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:21,080 # So live like it's your last # Your future's in the past 911 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,320 # In just a moment # So drink and love and dance 912 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:31,600 # Don't make too many plans # Because all we ever have is in 913 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,000 this moment # Now... 914 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,160 # So come and breathe it in # The air's the medicine 915 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,320 # It's only in the dark # You get to see the stars 916 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,760 # If you wish your life for a better one 917 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,920 # Well, you know full well it'll never come 918 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:57,400 # It'll never come # It'll never come to you, 919 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,840 # You go round in circles # 920 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:12,440 You go round in circles # You go round in circles 921 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:20,040 # Oh, oh... 922 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:28,640 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE . Welk done, that man! Mister James 923 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,240 blunt! And his band. Great job. Thank you. 924 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:41,320 Come on over, James. Thank you so much for doing that. Hello, hello. 925 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:49,200 So great to see you. Hi, hello. Come on in. That is Tramell, Nicola, 926 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:54,440 Alan,. 927 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,440 Alan,. And Judi. Thank you so much for that! 928 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,560 Thank you for letting me play! Most people don't! What a thrill to be 929 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,080 here. Get used to that now! 930 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,960 That is from the new album. Look at that! 931 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,520 Yes, there it is. Out today, isn't it? 932 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:18,960 Out today. Happy release data me! Now, you weren't going to call it 933 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,200 Aeroplane Mode? No, I wanted to call it James Blunt, 934 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,720 Reason To Die. But I thought that was rather ironic and perfect, but 935 00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,520 my record label laughed at me and my manager said he would stop working 936 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,640 with me if I did. What I like about you, you say 937 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,560 what's on your mind, you love this album? 938 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,200 I really do. I mean come every new album, you say it is your best yet, 939 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,360 but this is! I like this thing that make you had 940 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,720 your greatest hits out last year. Did you feel that was kind of a 941 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:51,600 line... Well, it's more than a line, isn't 942 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:56,040 it? Your greatest hits is released when you die. My record label didn't 943 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,080 realise I was still alive! And so, yes, for me, it means I am 944 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,560 free of all the pressures from a record label and from radio, 945 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,320 singles, and so this is all gravy. Okay, lovely! And a gorgeous song, 946 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,400 absolutely lovely. Thank you so much. 947 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:16,520 Now, got to... Now, you just want to know about 948 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,520 Traitors, don't you? Even the song Circles immediately 949 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,720 brings to mind a round table! So you have done it to yourself! 950 00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:27,040 I'm having a bit of kind of Traitors, even looking at you here! 951 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:34,920 Yes, because James... You have received the most votes! 952 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,400 You did eventually get there. Were you surprised to get as far as you 953 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,240 did? Yes, very much. 954 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:44,720 We certainly were! LAUGHTER. 955 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:48,440 I had hoped to be Hercule Poirot, and instead I ended up as Inspector 956 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:54,600 Clouseau. It was painful. But I have to say, you are a victim. You are a 957 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,400 victim to the edit, and if they edited out all my tropes to try and 958 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,760 make those comedians seem funny! 959 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,920 But they didn't edit out all your correct guesses! 960 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,680 LAUGHTER 961 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,920 You took it so seriously! 962 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,120 Well, it was very serious. 963 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,160 It was adorable. 964 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,800 It was adorable. 965 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,920 Yes, but people are accusing you of murder and things like that, so... 966 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,760 And whenever anyone accused me of murder, I really wanted to kind 967 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,440 of grab a fork and stab them. 968 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,520 Yeah. 969 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,520 LAUGHTER 970 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,600 It is... 971 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,760 It is actually psychological torture. 972 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,800 Very much so. 973 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,280 Do you know what I mean? 974 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,440 You're in this bubble, you don't have your phones, 975 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,880 do you know what I mean? 976 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,120 You're in this kind of cocoon and you've nothing else to think 977 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,960 about except the game of Traitors. 978 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:40,360 So you go mad. 979 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,960 But also, the thing I would say - and I think you'll all agree - 980 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,880 is often, people take control in the challenges 981 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:46,920 and they're rubbish. 982 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,320 You took control and you were brilliant at the challenges. 983 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,600 You're kind to say that. 984 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,600 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 985 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,240 Yeah. 986 00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:55,440 Taking control is one way of describing it. 987 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,800 My wife described it as "being bossy". 988 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,440 But, yeah, you know, they're long-haired civvies, 989 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,560 civilians, who need taking in, you need to get a grip of them. 990 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,640 Yeah. Wow! 991 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,040 And so Ross and myself were giving instructions. 992 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,760 But, you know, it was such a joy, such a pleasure. 993 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,120 Actually, a mission is such a nice time to get out of the kind 994 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,280 of psychological warfare of the castle and escape into 995 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,320 the beautiful Scottish Highlands. 996 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,720 But also, so keeping the secret of the whole thing, 997 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:23,120 did you tell your wife, at least, what had happened? 998 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,680 No, I really didn't. 999 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,800 You know, you're told not to tell anyone, 1000 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,480 so that they might enjoy the show. 1001 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,120 So I got home and didn't tell her anything for months 1002 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,760 until it was broadcast, and when she watched the last thing, 1003 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,920 she turned round and said, "I thought you'd won!" 1004 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,960 Aw! 1005 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,160 And she's so disappointed with me now. 1006 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,480 Oh, dear! 1007 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,160 We were all a bit disappointed! LAUGHTER 1008 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,320 Your little face - when the others voted green, 1009 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,000 you could see your face going, er... 1010 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,200 I've cocked it up again! 1011 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,240 Yeah. 1012 00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:54,720 Consistent, consistent. Exactly. 1013 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,360 And you are going on tour to sing to the people. 1014 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,520 Yeah, you're going to come to all the shows! 1015 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,640 I am, you know, I'm there, I'm in the mosh pit every time. 1016 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,680 Yeah. 1017 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:04,880 Do you know, I crowd-surf? 1018 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,080 Oh, I know you do. 1019 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,080 That's why I don't go near the front! 1020 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:14,680 Yes, I'm going on tour from March... February, rather. 1021 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,880 In March, I'll be in the UK, 1022 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,040 so do come along, I'll see you all there. 1023 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,080 All right. Marvellous! 1024 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,520 James, lovely to see you again! 1025 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,560 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1026 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,480 Good luck on the tour, and thank you. 1027 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,200 James Blunt, everybody! 1028 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,240 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1029 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:29,440 That is nearly it. 1030 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,800 Before we go, just time for a quick visit to the Big Red Chair. 1031 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,840 Who do we have? 1032 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,880 Hello! 1033 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,920 Hello. 1034 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,960 You're on. 1035 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,000 What's your name? 1036 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,040 My name's Debbie. 1037 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,080 Debbie, lovely. 1038 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,520 And where are you from, Debbie? 1039 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,400 I'm from Lytham St Annes. OK, and what do you do there? 1040 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,840 I'm a full-time grandma. OK, lovely. 1041 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,280 How many grandchildren? Just the two. 1042 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,320 OK, but full-time! 1043 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,760 She's being a granny right now! 1044 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,200 OK, off you go with your story, Debbie. 1045 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,280 Well, my story starts a long time ago. 1046 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,640 It was a very hot summer's day... Oh, yes. 1047 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,520 ..and we went off to B&Q because we had a leaky tap. 1048 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,600 Yes. 1049 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:10,240 I was going to say God is in the details! 1050 00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:14,040 I went off and I had Kylie shorts on and I had a strap top around 1051 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,440 here and my Ray-Bans, and I thought I looked amazing. 1052 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,640 And off we went. 1053 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,480 And we were in B&Q and I had a little itch, and I took my thumb 1054 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,880 and I scratched the back of my back and, boom! 1055 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,520 And the next minute, there was some guys at the end 1056 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,400 of the aisle and they said, "Hey, come and have a look. 1057 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,320 Judi Dench has got her thrupennys out here." 1058 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,360 LAUGHTER 1059 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,400 And I said... 1060 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,400 No, no! 1061 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,320 APPLAUSE 1062 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,680 She's in theatre! 1063 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:49,640 Judi Dench is in theatre! 1064 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,440 I'm not having that dirty talk about you, Judi. 1065 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,480 I apologise. Appalling! 1066 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,640 All right, that is really all we've time for. 1067 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,280 Please say a huge thank you to all of our guests. 1068 00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,720 James Blunt, everybody! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1069 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,560 Tramell Tillman. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1070 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,800 Nicola Coughlan! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1071 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,000 Alan Cumming. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1072 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,640 And Dame Judi Dench! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1073 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,480 Join me next week with music guest Noah Kahan, comedian Rob Brydon, 1074 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,880 Ozark star Laura Linney, Scotland's finest - no offence - 1075 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,800 David Tennant, and the wonderfully Wicked Cynthia Erivo. 1076 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:19,840 I'll see you then. 1077 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:20,880 Goodnight, everybody, bye-bye! 1078 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:28,760 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE