It's all happening this week, storm clouds everywhere,
but we've got are very own Stormzy a-brewing here tonight.
Say the words, say the words!
Let's start the show!
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
This program me contains some strong language
Oh!
I did it, I did it! Hello, good evening, everybody.
You are also welcome to the show.
I tell you, we've got some great guests with us tonight.
Stormzy, of course, and also, a first-time appearance
by Oscar-winning star Gina Davies.
By Oscar-winning star Geena Davies.
Yes! APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
I think we all loved Geena in Thelma and Louise.
Remember the great scene at the end?
Look at that, fantastic.
Oh, on the subject of driving things off a cliff...
I mean, really.
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
We'll never forget you, Liza!
I mean, what can you say? We're recording on a Thursday.
By the time this goes out, Paddington Bear
could be Prime Minister.
I know!
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
Free marmalade for all!
So, who is it going to be next?
Sources say it could be Penny Mordaunt.
Yeah, for the party's sake.
It could be Rishi Sunak, for the country's sake.
Or even Boris johns on...
For fuck's sake.
Let's get some guests on!
She's the Queen of the dance floor and author with her book
Finding My Own Rhythm, it's Motet Mabuse!
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
Oh, my god, oh, my god, oh, my god, oh, my god!
Have a seat, do!
From Liverpool to Hollywood, he's set the screen alight
in Gangs Of New York, The Irishman, This ls England and
Line Of Duty, it's Stephen Graham!
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There you go, sir.
Shoes the Oscar-winning star of import the accidental
She's the Oscar-winning star of import the accidental
journalist, The Fly, A League Of Their Own
and the iconic Thelma And Louise.
Please welcome the great Geena Davis!
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
Hello, lovely to see you!
Have a seat.
And he's the Ivor Novello and Brit award-winning grime sensation
who is back with his much anticipated third album, This ls
What I Mean, it's Stormzy!
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
Yes!
Hello, all, lovely to see you all.
Now, we've got to talk about names, because Stormzy,
the last time you were on, I didn't ask you, so, how old were
you when you became Stormzy?
I was about... How old was I?
Maybe about 12, 13.
And where did it come from, how did it happen?
It's not that exciting, you know.
I'm still asking.
It's literally, I was sat on my sofa in...
You're right, it's a bit dull so far.
It doesn't get any better.
I was in my front room and I was with my cousin,
and does anyone remember MSN?
Yeah? That's cool.
I didn't think anyone would remember it, but MSN, and I just thought,
God just put it on my head and I was, like, Stormzy and I went
on MSN and I changed my screen name to Stormzy, and that was it.
Ancl the rest was history.
Did you like storms, what...?
No, nothing, I wasn't into storms, I wasn't,
like, fast as lightning, I wasn't...
There was no deep, philosophical insight?
No, nothing, I just thought this was something good and...
Isn't it amazing that you stuck with it, there
wasn't a time at 16, going, I've got to ditch
this Stormzy think?
This Stormzy thing?
It's funny because when I hear my name sometimes, I laugh at it.
People are, like, Stormzy.
This is just like...
And Geena, Geena, lovely name, but you spell it
differently, with two Es.
Why is that?
Well, I was named Virginia, after my aunt, and her nickname
was Ginny, so my parents thought
that we have to come up with a different nickname.
Ancl hit upon Gina.
Ancl then when I started acting and I was in articles or whatever,
my mum said, people seem to love the way you spell your name.
Ancl I said, yeah, yeah.
I always say, you didn't know how to spell Geena.
Oh, no, I knew how to spell it, I grew up in an Italian
neighbourhood, I knew absolutely how to spell it.
Well, why did you spell it with two Es, then?
She says, well, I didn't want anyone to think your name was "Gina".
So...
just so we're clear, my entire identity is based
on fear of vaginas.
I know how you feel.
Erm...
APPLAUSE.
No, Stephen, Stephen is obviously your name, Stephen,
but you've had lots of nicknames, like, famous co-stars have given
you nicknames and things?
Yeah, I've had a couple, a few. Like what?
Well, when I worked with Leo, he called me...
DiCaprio!
Gave me the nickname animal, just because when we go
out drinking in Italy, obviously, with being from Liverpool
and half Irish, I used to be able to drink quite well.
So he called me animal.
Actually, your Liverpool accent, live Leonardo DiCaprio, was
he the one who loves your accent?
Yeah, yeah.
He used to make me say chicken.
Chicken and lockets.
Lockets, they're like these sweets...
You all remember lockets, don't you?
So, he used to go, what? What was the first thing?
Chicken.
Chicken, like chicken?
Chicken in Liverpool.
Chicken, you know, like, chicken.
Where I come from, we say chicken.
Can you say Motshegetsi? Motshegetsi.
Super, that's my name, you know!
And Motet, and your sister Oti, those who know, but those
names have meanings, so what are the meanings?
Well, my name is Motshegetsi, it means you can lean on me.
I am like a friend, sort of thing.
Great song.
Lean on me!
My sister's name, her full name is Otlile, and it
means she has arrived.
And we all know she has arrived.
We feel it every day!
Like that, though.
Does that mean, was that a quick birth or a slow birth?
Why, she has arrived, is it, we've been waiting for days,
she has arrived, or is it, like, oh, she has arrived?
To be honest, I think she's the only planned
baby in the family, that's why she has arrived.
We were just accidents.
Dating accidents.
Lean on that!
Put a book up against it!
Ladies and gentlemen, this is exciting.
Stormzy, you are performing for us later.
Yes, sir, I am.
So looking forward to it.
And this is your first live performance of new music in a while.
Yes, for about three years, I believe.
Oh, wow!
Can I just take off my...?
I'm absolutely sweating.
Everyone's been talking, I'm just, like...
I am hot.
I thought, that is a very woolly...
Schoolboy error, that.
I've been dying here, everyone has been talking
and I've just been trying to concentrate, like...
I'm better now.
Feel free to slip your top off.
I'll dance on the table!
We're all friends here!
I can breathe now!
So, you are going to be performing Hide And Seek,
which is from the third album, This ls What I Mean.
This is it, ladies and gentlemen.
APPLAUSE.
And here's the thing.
The last time we saw you on the show, you did
an amazing performance, and then after that,
off you went to Glastonbury.
You were the first grime artist to ever headline Glastonbury.
And this look is now so iconic, the Banksy vest, so, did Banksy...?
How do you get a Banksy bullet-proof vest?
'N.
It's just kind of bestowed upon you.
I swear to you, that's what it feels like.
It was, like, the...
Have I told this before?
I'm going to tell it anyway.
Yeah. So, my contact with a Banksy was...
He is as elusive as you can imagine.
Is your contact with Banksy Banksy?
Not really, no.
It's, like, no, it's not really.
You get contacted through notes, like...
Yeah, yeah, it's quite...
Is it cloak and dagger?
Basically, like, in a nutshell.
Ancl then, yeah, it was mad.
Sometimes, can I be rude?
Talking about Banksy, I feel, like...
Whenever people ask me about the vest, I'm, like...
Who sent you here?
I don't know. I might just...
You know what I mean?
Do you go, dear Banksy...?
No, no, no.
Anything Banksy does, that's one thing I can vouch
for Banksy, is that, yeah, he literally found me
and said, I've made something for you, like, if you want to wear
it, if you don't...
Ancl I was, like, I definitely want to wear it, please.
Like, yeah, please.
Ancl then even we did some fittings for it,
and it was very, very, very...
Did you actually meet him?
I can't.
He so did.
Went for fittings, I mean...!
No, that's going to be someone else.
No, I swear to you.
Or she was never there.
AUDIENCE: Ooh!
You know?
But yeah, it was...
He literally...
That's why I genuinely feel like, it felt like it was bestowed upon me,
as in, he found me through this and said, you are going
to wear this vest.
And then that look became your Madame Tussauds wax work.
But that's not the real vest, is it?
No, no, no. Where is the real vest?
I'm sure it's in a museum, believe.
Called your house? No.
After Glasto, I had the vest, and I've never been
so scared in my life.
Because people, that's like, people do big...
So, I had it in my house, and it's just like in my bedroom
and I'm looking at it, you know, I need to get
rid of this, like.
Ancl then I took it to the safe and kept it in a safe,
and now it's a museum.
Because with art, I didn't know this, but if you have world-famous
or world-renowned or very important pieces of art, it's a thing amongst
art collectors that you're meant to lend it to museums,
because apparently the art is so important to the world that
no-one man can have it.
That's what they told you.
That's what they told me, yeah.
Stormzy, I'll have that!
But I love it, you're in Madame Tussauds,
and your mother got a bit confused when you are trying to tell her?
Yeah, she's...
Ancl my mum is mad.
She got confused, bless her.
I was, like, mum, I'm in Madame Tussauds.
She was, like, what, barbecue sauce?
Ancl I was, no, I'm in Madame Tussauds.
Yeah, barbecue...
I am, like, no, mum.
It's a good idea, Stormzy barbecue sauce.
Yeah, not bad.
Weirdly, Motet sent us in a picture, is this a waxwork or the real thing?
No, this is real!
This is amazing, so, what happened is, I absolutely love
This is amazing, so, what happened is, I absolutely love Oprah.
Everyone loves Oprah. Everyone loves Oprah.
So, you know, I went to South Africa and then I moved to Germany and then
she had this vision tour, 2020, and I was, like, oh,
my god, I manifested this, I am going to meet Oprah.
Ancl then they were, like, you can take pictures.
Then just before we took pictures, she is, like, I don't
want to hear your life story.
Ancl that's it.
So we just took a picture, and I was so frightened,
I was, like, moving away, because I was so scared!
But this is real, I love her.
But does she say I don't want to hear your life
story to everybody?
Yes.
I mean, imagine, you're Oprah Winfrey, how many
stories would you hear?
Everybody wants to tell you how they survived.
I don't want to hear it!
Eight hours, really?
And the bus came?
So, I could understand.
Even then thought, oh, she taught me a lesson, again,
boundaries, time, you know?
You don't get the time back.
I fully understood that. I do it all the time now.
I don't want to hear the story!
The hand!
Not interested!
Because, Stephen, in one of your films, course, Snatch,
you got to work with Hollywood great Brad Pitt, which must
have been extraordinary.
CHEERING.
But you kind of blagged your way in, or...?
I suppose technically, yeah.
Apparently, Guy was only seeing people from London.
So when I went in for the meeting, I pretended I was from south east
London and I walked in, "All right, mate?"
Ancl he looked at me and then I was like, "I've come
along for the audition."
He's like, "You're a Scouser."
Ancl I went, "Yeah, yeah."
Ancl he was like, "I've worked with you before."
I was like, "I know, but I thought you might have forgotten."
He was like, "No."
Anyway, I got the job, so...
But of course, Brad Pitt -
Brad Pitt owes his entire career to someone on our couch.
And that would be Geena Davis.
No, because you did...
Thelma and Louise was his first film?
He'd clone very little.
I think it might have been his first film.
I'm not sure.
Yeah.
And why did you say yes to him?
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
Well, actually, it was down to...
Once I was cast, it was down to four finalists for that role.
Ancl they said, "Well, you read with them,
so we can see what you're like," and each one came in and each
one was very handsome.
They all had brown hair and very talented.
I had no, you know...
I didn't care who it was going to be.
Ancl then the fourth one who comes in is Brad Pitt.
Ancl he's so charismatic and so incredibly talented that
I was, like, screwing up his audition because
I was just like...
I'd forget to say my line
because I'm just like, "Wow, he's really talented."
So...
So then, I didn't know if they wanted my opinion
or not, but I said, "Would you be interested in knowing
what my reaction was?"
"Oh, yeah, please."
I was like, "The blonde one!"
It wasn't my...
I was not responsible for...
He did really well.
Do you know what happened to the other three?
Yes.
I didn't know who they were at the time, but it turns out
it was Grant Show and Mark Ruffalo.
Ancl then the third person, I was sitting next to on a flight
from Europe back to LA, and the flight attendants met me
at the door and said, "Guess who you're sitting next to!"
I said, "Guess who HE'S sitting next to."
For once in my life, I said the right thing at the right time.
Ancl anyway, this this gentleman was very friendly and great.
Ancl he finally said, "You know, I hate Brad Pitt."
I said, "No, you don't.
He's like a really good friend of yours."
He said, "No, I hate him because he got the part."
And I said, "Oh, did you want the part?"
And he said, "You couldn't tell when I auditioned with you?"
Ancl it was George Clooney.
And you didn't remember him at all?
No, no.
Well, Geena Davis, she talks about that
much more in her new memoir, Dying of Politeness.
It's out now.
And Thelma and Louise, it kind of relates to the title,
because Susan Sarandon, you learned something
from watching her work.
Absolutely.
From watching her move through her life, yeah.
So it's called Dying of Politeness because my family was raised
to be insanely polite and more than just saying
please and thank you, but you could never need
anything from anybody else.
You had to say no to everything and be very self-effacing.
Anyway, so, by the time I met her, I was still prefacing
everything I said with, "This is probably a stupid idea,
but I mean, could we possibly...?"
Ancl then the clay I met her, I was like...
Immediately, you know,
she was like, "Well, I think we should cut my first line."
Ancl I was like, "Wait, oh, you can be like that,
a woman can be like that?"
Ancl I looked at Ridley Scott.
He's like, "Yeah, you know, whatever."
I was like, "Wow!"
My mind was, like, blown.
It sounds crazy, but really, I really was so unused to ever
seeing a woman just say what she thinks.
Yeah.
Ancl not being self-effacing like that.
But also, I mean, you talk about your family there.
It does come from a deep place.
I mean, the stories in this book that your family...
I mean, the classic story is the story where you're
driving with your...
is it your great-uncle, jack?
Great-Uncle jack, yeah.
So how old is Great-Uncle jack?
99.
And he's behind the wheel of a car.
He's behind the wheel,
right.
Ancl my parents and I were in the back-seat and my Aunt Marion
was in the front.
Ancl we're going down this very narrow road at night.
Ancl everyone said Uncle jack would just veer
into the oncoming traffic lane.
And then veer back and my parents
weren't going to say anything, but my mum put me in the middle
between them in case, you know, when we had the head-on collision,
I might die less, maybe.
So now he veers into the other lane.
But a car is coming and closing the gap, closing the gap.
There's nowhere for them to pull off, you know,
and no-one says anything.
At the last instant,
my aunt says, "A little to the right, jack."
He just veers out of the way.
Ancl they went by so close, their faces were like, "Raah!"
So my parents would literally rather die...
and kill their child...
than say something that Uncle jack might be offended by.
So they're very polite.
And then you become an actress,
so they have to go see your movies.
So like when they were to see your first movie, Tootsie,
were they polite or did they tell you the truth?
Well, my brother and I went with my parents and it was the middle
of the clay and nobody else was in the theatre.
So they had no opportunity to see how other people might, you know,
real people might react to it.
Ancl we left the theatre and my brother said, "That was great."
We get in the car and there's silence,
there's nothing.
Nobody's saying anything.
Ancl like, 20 minutes go by where no-one has said...
I just was in a movie and nobody said anything.
Ancl then my mum finally said, "So what'll we have for dinner?"
They never said anything because...
No-one acknowledged it at all?
No, and it was because I was in my underwear in the movie.
They didn't know what to say.
OK, so that's mad.
You're then in The Fly.
Did you even let them see The Fly?
Yes, they were with my brother at the time and they went to see
it and I knew that they were watching it.
Ancl then I'm not getting a phone call, so I call my brother.
He says, "Oh yeah, I love the movie, it's so great."
I said, "But put Mum and Dad on."
"They don't want to talk to you."
So I said, "What?"
My clad in the background says, "You gotta make better movies
than that if you want me to watch them!"
I said, "Put Mum on the phone."
She said, "Hello?"
"Mum, what's wrong?"
"Well, you know..."
What?
"There's parts of that I didn't like."
"Well, what, Mum?"
"You know."
"No, I don't.
Mum.
Is it when the monkey turns inside out
or when Jeff's ear falls off, or when I give birth to a maggot?
I just, I literally...
I literally don't know what you're talking about.
Ancl she said, "|t was the sex."
Ancl I'm like, "Oh, my God."
But I have to tell you, another story was when I made
Long Kiss Goodnight.
It was very R-rated, very vulgar.
Ancl I was the first female actor ever to say "Suck my click"
in a movie.
Ohhh!
Thank you.
APPLAUSE.
I always wondered who that was!
It was me, it was me.
It was you!
So anyway, I was like, "What about my parents?
They can't even watch this movie."
So I got a video made of it with all the swear words
and all the anything, you know, that they would disapprove of,
taken out.
Ancl I said, "I just want to spare you from having to go
to the movie theatre.
Just watch it at home."
You know?
And it was very short, I imagine.
It was very short.
But was that the one that was directed by
your husband, Renny Harlin?
Yes, yes.
So did he do that for you?
He did it for me, yes.
Oh, that's so nice.
Yeah, nice.
And you did a couple of films with your husband, Renny.
And Stephen, you've worked with your wife Hannah a couple of times?
Yes.
And you played husband and wife, didn't you,
in In Time?
Yes, we did.
So was that weird blurring those lines of...?
It's not really.
She's a phenomenal actress.
You know what I mean?
She is absolutely fantastic.
So it was just...
What it was for us,
I think, more importantly, we're kind of, you know, two kids
from a council estate and we had a dream of being actors,
you know what I mean?
Ancl we were kind of lying in the bed and the whole camera crew
were around us.
Ancl it was like, we just had this really lovely moment
and we just kind of looked around and then we looked
at each other and we went, "Wow, can you believe this?"
Ancl she was like, "No, this is amazing.
We're living our dream."
Ancl I went, "I know, yeah, it's phenomenal."
Ancl then I farted.
Just because I was so comfortable in the bed with the missus.
And then she went, "You dirty ba..."
There's loads of people here.
It's not just me in here.
"I'm sorry, love.
I was feeling a bit comfortable."
Like I was really at home in bed.
You know what I mean?
So I ruined a beautiful moment.
Well, just to remind you that Geena's book is
Dying of Politeness, and it's out in hardback now.
OK!
APPLAUSE
Stephen Graham...
Stephen Graham brings us a fantastic challenge.
It's called The Walk-In.
It's currently showing on ITV, Mondays at 9pm.
Or you can watch the whole series on the ITV Hub.
So I guess the starting point for this is that this is a true story,
because when you watch it, you kind of think...
But it is, it's true.
And it happened in this country?
Yeah, it's all based on true events.
Ancl the writer Jeff Pope, who's phenomenal, he's wrote...
I did a show for Jeff a few years ago now called Little Boy Blue.
But this is very close to my heart, you know what I mean?
I think it's it's a very poignant drama.
It's powerful.
Ancl I also think that, you know, personally, for me to be a part
of stuff that has a social commentary and kind of,
you know, is really relevant to what's happening today,
it's about a Neo-Nazi group who, you know, were dismantled
and they were taken to court.
Ancl all of these people were, they were the first
white supremacists and white terrorists to be convicted
in our country.
But the "walk-ins" are people that Matthew kind of inserted
into the groups.
Yes.
As a young man, he was in the National Front and then he kind
of realized the error of his ways.
Ancl with me being a mixed race man, you know what I mean?
Growing up as a kid, the National Front,
they were quite rife back in the late '70s and early
'80s, you know what I mean?
So I saw that side of it as well, predominantly.
And did you meet your character?
I did, yeah.
We had a few conversations and then kind of...
I don't like to do
impersonations of people.
I like to kind of take it on myself and try and create my own character,
do you know what I mean?
Ancl I think it's really relevant and I think it's very poignant
for today and for people to, you know...
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He's got a target on his back, because of what he's clone, and
you've brought it into our home.
I had no choice.
You'd have clone the same thing.
APPLAUSE.
You see, that's the kind of...
I mean, that's the severity
of the fella who I play, Matthew Collins.
That's the severity him and his family have to go through,
through bringing these people to justice.
You know what I mean?
They have to keep moving house and hide because they get found
out where they live.
And, you know, the houses can be petrol bombed and the kids
are threatened and stuff like that.
Or because they're trying
to bring these people to justice.
And obviously on the show, there's children in the show and
there's lots of extras and background artists.
But there was one background artist who apparently was very impressed
to see you.
Do you know who I'm talking about?
No.
Yes, you do.
Is it...
I mean...
There was one, she kept saying...
She got confused.
She thought I was someone else.
I thought she was being really nice and she went to me,
"You're doing really well for yourself, aren't you?"
Ancl I was like, "Oh, thank you, love."
You know how extras can have conversations with you?
Sorry - supporting artists can have conversations with you?
Ancl you're like, "Oh, OK," you know?
Ancl they have really interesting conversations sometimes.
Ancl she went, "You're doing really well for yourself."
"Thank you very much."
Ancl you're being polite, you know what I mean?
Ancl then I was like, "Yeah, yeah."
Sh went, "Because I never thought it had happened for you."
Ancl I was like...
"OK, OK."
"Where are we going now?"
Ancl she was like, "Well, you know, after Big Brother."
Ancl I was like, what the f...?
Hang on, sorry, love - what?
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announcement,
it
really exciting announcement, it continues!
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do
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continues! We are going to do a TV series
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BBC.
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forward
to
it.
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looking forward to it. Thank you very
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cast,
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very much. It is most of the cast, I think
we're
going
to
have
most
the
think we're going to have most the cast
back.
And
OUT
wonderful
cast back. And our wonderful director,
who
I?
Phenomenal.
We
are
director, who is phenomenal. We are going
to
make
a
five-pa rt
series
and
going to make a five-part series and it's
going
to
be
more
of
a
kind
of
it's going to be more of a kind of social
commentary.
But
with
the
social commentary. But with the intensity
of
working
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the
kitchen.
Intensity of working in the kitchen. When
might
that
be
on
television?
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When might that be on television? We start
filming
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January,
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towards
start filming in January. So towards the
end
of
next
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Ma'!
Next
the end of next year, may next autumn.
We
look
forward
to
the
TV
autumn. We look forward to the TV version
and
just
a
reminder,
they
version and just a reminder, they walk-in
continues
on
ITV
on
Mondays
walk-in continues on ITV on Mondays at
9pm.
Now, great news, ladies and gentlemen -
just don't tell Oprah.
Motet Mabuse has written her life story!
APPLAUSE.
She doesn't want to read this!
I don't want to read it!
She does not want to read this! Keep it away from that woman!
Its called Finding My Own Rhythm, and it is out now.
And of course, this, it's your story, but your family
is in here and everything, so, have they read it,
are they OK with it?
Well, they haven't. I didn't ask.
I'll give it for Christmas!
No, you know what...
The thing is, my family, everybody in our family has a view
and an opinion about everything in my life.
So I was, like, let me do this on my own so that I can put
it down as I saw it, and they can write their
own book afterwards.
Is it your story from, like, aged zero to now?
Yes, from South Africa, from birth, until now.
Every time people do that, I always think,
how do they remember?
I was never...
I wouldn't remember what I did.
Well, there is that interesting chapter about the couch
in the front room.
You know what I mean?
Think mine would start there, and probably end here.
But you're young, Stormzy, you're supposed to remember shit.
I don't remember much, you know.
It's all a blur, especially since I became a musician.
So, big up yourself doing that because that's...
Yes, memory! APPLAUSE.
And actually, some of the stories we kind of knew, the idea
of you being a young girl in South Africa, and discovering
dance, ballroom dance, but I didn't understand that that
young girl in South Africa had a big dream.
Yes. What was your dream?
My dream, my absolutely everything, my goal, was to go to Blackpool.
You heard her!
It iS!
I saw a video when I was a little girl in South Africa,
I saw a video with Kevin Clifton and his sister walking on the beach,
speaking about Blackpool and dancing and all that,
and I was, like, this is what I have to do, this is the goal,
it was the reason for everything.
And then you worked at that dream, you saved up money,
you found a partner, and then, I know for a fact,
that in 1998, the dream came true.
Yes!
Here is a clip of Motet Mabuse on her first trip to Blackpool.
Can I just say, rocking it?
BALLROOM DANCE MUSIC PLAYS.
WOW!
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
So, there were about, was it 200 couples?
Yes, we were about 250 couples, something like that,
it was so funny because we, at that competition,
we were seventh, like, coming from South Africa,
no lessons, nothing, we came in and we were seventh,
and I was a tiny little bit disappointed.
I was, like, oh, seventh.
But people came up to me and they were, like,
oh, you were seventh!
Ancl so by the time I arrived back to South Africa, I was,
like, I was in seventh!
Where you, like, famous when you got back to South Africa?
No.
Well, in the dance industry, I think it was a first,
you don't come to the UK and people kind of celebrate you, seventh,
and then, in the dance industry, we made a name for us,
they took us seriously from then on.
And then, you make this impetuous decision, you move to Germany,
and then after a few years, you end up on the German version
of Strictly Come Dancing, called, Let's Dance.
Let's Dance!
Genau so!
That's what it's called!
Let's dance!
I still live there, Graham, I need to go back home!
But you weren't a judge, you were one of the professionals
originally, and you were a judge, but you were a professional,
and so, you were paired with this German celebrity.
Now...
I'm not a mind reader...
I love that face!
Jesus wept!
No!
I have to explain this situation.
So, the thing is, I did not know German celebrities when I arrived,
obviously I'm in my dance bubble and stuff.
So, they told me, like, we think you're going to dance
with someone, and then they said, watch YouTube, and he was at
the Eurovision Song Contest, like, climbing up the wall, literally.
Ancl they were, like, that's your partner.
Ancl I'm, like, what's happening here?
But we did dance, he's a nice guy, really.
I never want you as a character witness!
You know, he's nice!
He was really, really nice, and I had a little thing that
happened with him...
Careful, guys.
What happened was, I had a few people's names in my phone,
and him, and my teacher, they were all in one kind of thing.
We were just practising and I was, like, this one
is shit, didn't work out, he is like this, and this...
Ancl then it went ping, ping, and he's sitting next to me.
Yes, guys.
Ancl I was just, like, hi...
Oh, no, you'd sent it to him?
Yes, but I tried to explain the situation, it's not you,
it's me, in this whole thing.
I have to control my feelings!
But I mean we were really good friends, honestly.
We overcame that.
This was together!
It was a story I wanted to tell Oprah!
Text her!
Now, a big year obviously for Strictly in this country,
the 20th anniversary.
Stormzy, have you been asked to do it?
No, they wouldn't ask me.
No, can't dance.
I get really uncomfortable when I dance.
You see how I was sweating earlier, when I dance, like...
Something funny, you know, like, I was going to call it
South London culture, but it's not south London culture,
but you know Jamaican culture and stuff like that,
when we was younger, we used to go to parties,
and the girls would wine, and the boys.
I'm such a bad dancer, when girls used to try and wine with me,
I always used to run away, in the party.
Literally, like, they're coming over and I used to get really upset
and I would start getting flustered and start sweating.
Because people is watching, and the girl starts backing it up
on you and I'm thinking, no, no, no please, please.
So, I can't dance.
So, please, Strictly, just...
It sounds like a challenge?
I'm being challenged here!
Because, Geena, Dancing with the Stars is the American
version, have they ever asked you?
They did one year.
But you know, I'm incredibly competitive, and I like to prove
I can do something that I can't do, but I didn't say yes.
I don't know, I got self-conscious.
What's the other thing? Oh, yeah, you're rich.
Why would you do it?
Here's the thing, though.
I did not know this.
Stephen Graham, hiding your light, you are a dancer?
No, I'm not.
You were on a dance troupe, won't you?
I was a break dancer. There is a difference.
OK, yeah.
But you took it seriously, there was a bunch of you?
Can I just interrupt?
I'm not going to ask you to do a break dance.
I saw your face going, Jesus, where is this going?
Don't worry.
I'll pull a hip or something, do you know what I mean?
We used to go...
I remember once, my auntie, God rest her soul, we used
to get our lino, and we used to get the ghetto blaster, and we'd go
and have like Grandmaster Flash and all that kind of fantastic stuff
back in the clay, and we used to break dance.
Ancl we were in a little crew, we were half decent.
Just roll around break dancing?
No-handed windmills!
You know what I mean?
With all your friends, like, let's hit the road and break dance.
We were a crew!
Do you know what I mean?
What were you called, the Brooks Brothers?
The Brooks Breakers, yeah.
We used to put the lino down, and people would gather round,
we'd make a good couple of quid.
Play the video, Graham!
I don't have it! No videos exist!
But it was great.
Bring in the lino!
No, no, no.
He's the thing, if you want to see...
I don't know if you dance, but you certainly sing,
in the new version of Matilda the Musical.
Yeah. You do sing in it, don't you?
A little bit, yeah. Do you dance?
No, no, no.
What is it with the dancing in the show, are you all anti-dancing?
It's difficult, man, it's tough.
It's your kind of dancing.
Even, like, for me, like a two-step, I think about that, one, two...
It's a start! I see talent!
If I had one wish, it would be to be able to dance.
And that's not...
I'm not lying.
I've got mates who can dance, and I always feel
like if I could dance, I would be one of those people
who just dances all the time.
Just call me!
Dreams come true!
Let's just remind people of Strictly tomorrow night
on BBC One and iPlayer, and this week the theme
is 100 years of the BBC.
And of course, Motet's book Finding My Own Rhythm is out now.
Very good, OK!
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
It is time for music.
Ancl dancing!
You're on, Stormzy, your stool is over there,
it awaits, so, off you go.
Cool, wicked, I'm trying to think, do I wear my jacket?
You will sweat.
I'll tell you what, take your jacket over with you,
and then you can decide.
All right, cool. OK.
Do it for the love!
Do I go that way?
Just go that way, it's over there, it's probably quicker.
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
Here with an exclusive first live performance
of Hide And Seek from the new album This ls What I Mean...
Is he there? He is.
It is Stormzy!
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
# Oh girl, you're shining
# You know you're my diamond
# You need reminding
# This moment of timing when your
# Soul needs aligning
# It's me, you confide in
# Seeking and hiding
# You know where to find me babe
# Feeling
# Pressure
# Diamonds (you know where to find me)
# What's it gonna be
# What we gonna do
Here we go again
This ain't nothin' new
I ain't tryna run game but it's true, 'cah you
(Came and you made me feel)
You call me for help you gotta chill
Need time for yourself you gotta heal
This ain't something you felt it's how you feel
(You came and you made me feel)
Ayy we built this all wrong I'll take blame
But instead of us tearing it down we'll rearrange,
Baby (don't let it fall)
Don't let it fall girl, don't let it fall, I
Don't wanna fight no more
Keep me where I belong
I've tried and I've tried
But I just can't hide from your love
# Oh girl, you're shining
# You know you're my diamond
# You need reminding
# This moment of timing when your
# Soul needs aligning
# It's me, you confide in
# Seeking and hiding
# You know where to find me, babe
# Feeling
# I can feel it
# Pressure
# Don't you get that
# Diamonds (you know where to find me, babe)
# Feeling
# I can feel it
# Pressure
# Feel the pressure
# Pressure
# Diamonds
# You're my diamond, ooh
What we looking for
Lemme search now
Take your shoes off, put your purse down
How you gonna tell me that it's never gonna work now
Type of stuff to make me put a verse down
Worse now 'cah we made our bed and gotta lay in it
Thought it wasn't hard for me but every day it is
Heartbreak's such a dark place but we stay in it
What I'm saying is exactly what I say it is
I found you
I feel your presence when I'm not around you
Queen in your city, they need to crown you
Holy water baby, let me drown you
Fire and water I gotta 'low you
Burn out then reappear
Light still guiding you home, you know I'm there
And rest assured if you ever needed help
Or just need a place to hide know I'll keep it to myself, word
# Oh girl, you're shining
# You know you're my diamond
# You need reminding
# It's moment of timing when your
# Soul needs aligning
# It's me you confide in
# Seeking and hiding
# You know where to find me, babe
# Feeling
# Pressure
# Diamonds (you know where to find me, babe)
# Feeling
# Pressure
# Diamonds
# Oh girl, you're shining (pressure)
# You know you're my diamond (pressure)
# You need reminding (diamonds)
# It's moment of timing when your (feeling)
# Soul needs aligning (pressure)
# It's me, you confide in (pressure)
# Seeking and hiding (diamonds)
# You know where to find me, babe
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
What about that, everyone?!
Stormzy!
His band, his backing vocalists!
Such a great job.
Really beautiful.
WOW!
So good, really good!
And your voice, your singing voice.
Have you been working on your singing voice?
I've been trying, I've been trying.
I've got my vocal coach.
Its beautiful, really lovely.
It's been a while, like, were you nervous
before you did that? Yeah, super nervous, yeah.
Really? So cool and calm.
No, it's always like...
Performing, I think, the more intimate it is,
the more nerve-racking it is.
Absolutely phenomenal.
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
The album, This ls What I Mean, is out on the 25th of November.
So you can pre-order that.
Thank you so much for that performance.
Good luck with that album and all your success, Stormzy.
Thank you so much.
Stormzy everyone!
Thank you.
That is nearly it.
But before we go, we do have time for a quick visit
to the Big Red Chair.
Who's up first? Hello?
Hello. Hi.
High hopes for you. What's your name?
Jenny-
jenny, lovely.
And what do you do, jenny?
I'm a disability support worker.
OK, where do you do that?
Well, I do it in Ireland at the moment, but also in Australia
because I kind of live there as well.
Oh, OK.
OK. Very good.
Whereabouts in Ireland?
Wick low. So not really near Cork.
No, but Wick low is lovely. Very nice.
OK, off you go with your story.
So I have two belly buttons and I use them to get free drinks.
Yes!
Bring it home, Ireland.
Bring it home.
Oh, yeah.
I want to see it!
That's not the whole story.
OK. OK.
So you've got two belly buttons.
Yeah. So I use them to get free drinks a lot,
and there's a lot of stories,
but one of them, I go on a birthday adventure every year.
So I went to...
We need to backtrack slightly.
Is one just something that looks like a belly button?
Or do you have two belly buttons?
They're legit.
So what, you had two umbilical cords?
Well, the doctor thinks I could have absorbed my twin
in the womb.
Oh!
She ate her own twin.
In the womb!
You got a story!
Yeah, wow.
That's not even her story!
That's just a by-the-by.
So you've eaten your twin.
You've got the two belly buttons.
You're now out on a birthday adventure.
OK, go.
So I was in Queens town, New Zealand.
There was an Irish bartender in one of the bars, so I'd shown him
the buttons the night before and I got some free drinks.
So I was like, "Right, this is place to go for my birthday.
"I'm going to get some free drinks."
And they had cocktails in teapots there.
So I went up to it.
I was like, "Right, any chance of some free teapots now?
"I know I've shown you the buttons, but come on,
it's my birthday."
And he was like, "Actually, wait there.
We've got a colleague who's terrified of belly buttons.
If we get you to show you them, like, we will give you free teapots
for the rest of the night if you show your belly buttons
to our colleague."
I was like, "Yeah, let's do it."
So they brought me over to the bar where it goes up like this,
and they grabbed her by the shoulders so she couldn't move.
And they were like, "Go, go, go!"
So down went the waistband and out came the buttons.
And I showed them to her and she was like, "AAAAH!"
She completely freaked out and started crying and left.
And they high-fived me and they gave me free teapots
for the rest of the night.
You're free to go.
But can we... Can we see?
Oh, OK.
OK, OK.
Look away. Look away.
I'll just stand like this.
Oh, there they are!
An upstairs and a downstairs.
You can walk.
And that really is all we've got time for.
If you'd like to go in the red chair yourself and tell your story,
you can contact us via our website at this very address.
You can contact us via our website at this very address.
You didn't think you'd see that tonight, did you?
Say thank you to all of our guests - Stormzy!
Motet Mabuse!
Stephen Graham!
And Geena Davis!
Join me next week with singer-songwriter Lady Blackbird,
footballer turned presenter Alex Scott,
Oscar winner Eddie Redmayne,
pop superstar Taylor Swift
and rock legend Bono.
I'll see you then. Goodnight, everybody, goodbye!