It's all happening this week, storm clouds everywhere.
But we've got our very own Stormzy a-brewing here tonight.
Oh, say the words. Say the words.
Let's start the show.
[Cheers and applause]
♪♪
Oh! Ohh.
I did it. I did it. Yes, I did.
Hello! Good evening, everybody.
You are all so welcome to the show. I'll tell you,
we've got some great guests here for you tonight.
Stormzy, of course, and also, a first-time appearance
by Oscar-winning star Geena Davis. Yes.
I think we all love Geena and "Thelma & Louise."
Do you remember the great scene at the end?
Oh, remember that? fantastic.
Oh, on the subject of driving things off a cliff --
[Laughter]
I mean, really.
[Applause]
Goodbye.
We'll never forget you, Liza.
[Laughter]
I mean, what can you say? We're recording on a Thursday.
By the time this goes out,
Paddington Bear could be Prime minister.
I know.
I know. Free marmalade.
Free marmalade for all.
So, who's it going to be next?
Well, sources say it could be Penny Mordaunt,
yeah, for the party's sake,
It could be Rishi Sunak, for the country's sake,
or even Boris Johnson,
for fuck's sake.
Let's get some guests on!
She's the queen of the dance floor and "Strictly" judge
who's now turned author with her book, "Finding My Own Rhythm,"
it's Motsi Mabuse!
Oh! [Vocalizing]
Whoo! Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Hello, darling. Mwah and mwah. Have a seat, do.
Hello. Oh!
From Liverpool to Hollywood,
he set the screen alight in "Gangs of New York,"
"The Irishman," "This is England,"
and "Line of Duty." It's Stephen Graham!
Ah!
Whoo!
Mabuse: Come on, Stephen.Hello, sir.
We're hugging.Hugging, hugging.
Look at him. There you go, sir.
Hello. Hello, love.Hi.
She's the Oscar-winning star of "The Accidental Tourist,"
"The Fly," "A League of Their Own,"
and the iconic "Thelma & Louise."
Please welcome the great Geena Davis!
Oh!
[Cheers and applause]
Hello. Lovely to see you.
Mwah and mwah.
Have a seat next to Stephen.
Oh!
And he's the Ivor Novello and BRIT award-winning
grime sensation who's back
with his much anticipated third album,
"This Is What I Mean." It's Stormzy!
Oh!
[Speaking indistinctly]
Hello. Lovely to see you. Come in, come in, come in.
Sit down! Oh!
Nice, man.
Yes, man. Yes, man. Yes, yes, yes.
Norton: Hello, all. Lovely to see you all.
Now, we've got to talk about names, 'cause actually,
Stormzy, the last time you were on, I didn't ask you.
So, how old were you when you became Stormzy?
I was about -- How old was I?
Maybe about 12, 13? Yeah.
And where did it come from? How did it happen?
It's not that exciting, you know?
I'm still asking.
No, it's -- I was sat on my sofa, and --
You're right. It's a bit dull so far.
Yeah, yeah. It doesn't get any better.
And I was in my front room, and I was with my cousin,
and does anyone remember MSN?
Audience: Yes.Yeah? Alright, cool.
Oh, I didn't think everyone remembered.
Well, MSN, and I just thought
God just put it in my head, and I was like Stormzy.
And I went on MSN, and I changed my screen name
to Stormzy, and that was it.
And then the rest was history. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you like storms? What --
Nah, nah, nah, nothing. Nothing. There was nothing.
I weren't into storms.
I weren't, like, fast as lightning.
I weren't nothing. Just --
So there was no deep philosophical insight?
No, nothing. I just thought this would sound good in that.
But isn't that amazing that you stuck with it?
There wasn't a time when you were like 16 going,
"I've got to ditch this Stormzy thing."
It's funny, though, 'cause when I hear my name sometimes,
I laugh at it.
Like when people are like, "Stormzy,"
I'm like, "Who's that?"
[Laughter]
And, Geena, Geena, lovely name. But you spell it differently.
With the two E's.Yes. Yes.
Why is that?
Well, I was named Virginia after my aunt,
and her nickname was Ginny. So my parents thought
that we have to come up with a different, you know,
a different nickname and hit upon Geena.
And then when I started acting, and I was in, you know,
articles or whatever, my mom said,
"People seem to love the way you spell your name."
And I said, "Yeah, yeah." I always say,
"You didn't know how to spell Geena."
Oh, no, I knew how to spell it.
I grew up in an Italian neighborhood.
I knew absolutely how to spell it.
Well, why did you spell it with two E's then?
She says, "Well, I didn't want anyone to think
your name was 'Jyna.'"
[Laughter]
So -- So we're clear,
my entire identity is based on fear of vaginas.
[Laughter]
I know how you feel.Yeah.
[Laughter]
That was good.No.
[Laughter]
That was good.
And, Stephen -- Stephen's obviously your name, Stephen.
But you've had lots of nicknames. Like famous costars
have given you nicknames and things, haven't they?
Yeah, I've had a couple, yeah.
Yeah, a few, yeah.
Like what?
Well, when I'm with Leo, he called me Animal --
DiCaprio.Okay, so --
[Laughter]
He gave me the nickname Animal just because
when we'd go out drinking in Italy,
obviously being from Liverpool and half Irish,
I used to be able to drink quite well.
So he called me Animal. Yeah.
'Cause actually, your Liverpool accent, who's --
Leonardo DiCaprio, was he the one who loves your accent?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
He used -- Yeah, he used to make me say chicken.
[Laughter]
Chicken. And Lockets.
Lockets, they're like these -- they're like these sweet --
you know, these sweets. We'd all eat them --
You all remember Lockets, don't you?
Yeah, so he used to go, "What?"
What was the first thing?Chicken.
Mabuse: Chicken?Like chicken?
Chicken.Stormzy: "Like chicken?"
It's chicken in Liverpool.
Chicken, you know, like --Oh, my God. I get it.
Chicken.Yes.
But where I come from, we say "shechen."
Chicken. But can you say Motshegetsi?
Motshegetsi.Super. So --
That's my name, you know! There you go.
Wow.That's good.
Very impressive, very impressive.
And, Motsi, and your sister Oti, obviously those are your names.
But those names have meanings.Yes.
So what are the meanings?
Well, my name is Motshegetsi.
It means you can lean on me and -- like a friend
sort of thing. Yes.Beautiful.
It's a great song.
[Laughs] ♪ Lean on me
That's my name.
No, and my sister's name, her full name is Otlile.
And it means she has arrived.
And we all know she has arrived.
[Laughter]
We feel it every day. [Laughs]
I like that, though. She has arrived.
Does that mean, like, was that a quick birth or a slow birth --
Like, why do you call someone she has arrived?
Is it kind of like, "We've been waiting four days.
She has arrived." Or is it kind of like, "Oh, she's arrived"?
To be honest, I think she's the only planned baby in the family.
That's why she has arrived.
We were just accidents. [Laughs]
Dating accidents.
Yeah. Lean on that.
[Laughter]
Put a book up against it.
Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, this is exciting.
Stormzy, you are performing for us later.
Yes, you are.Yes, I am. Yeah, yeah.
[Cheers and applause]
So looking forward to it.
And this is -- this is your first live performance
of new music in a while?
Yeah, for about three years, I believe, yeah.
Wow.Sorry, can I just take off my --
I'm absolutely sweating.Yeah.
I've been trying to -- Everyone's been talking.
I'm just like, yeah, yeah. I'm hot.
I said hello to you backstage,
and I thought, "That is a very wooly --"
It's a schoolboy editor.
No, I've been dying here, sweating.
Everyone's been talking, and I've just been trying
to concentrate like, yo, sweating.
You know, if you're still hot, feel free to slip your top off.
[Laughter]
I'll dance on the table.
We're all friends here. We're all friends.
I can breathe now.
Very good. So, listen, you are going to be performing
"Hide & Seek," which is from the third album,
"This Is What I Mean."
This is it, ladies and gentlemen. This is the vinyl.
Yeah.
And here's the thing. The last time Stormzy
was on the show, you did an amazing performance.
And then after that, off you went to Glastonbury.
You were the first grime artist to ever headline Glastonbury.
Yeah.And this look is now so iconic,
the Banksy bulletproof vest.
So, did Banksy --
Like, how do you get a Banksy bulletproof vest?
I -- It's just kind of bestowed upon you.
[Laughter]
I swear to you, that's how --
That's what it feels like. It was like the --
Have I told this story before? I'm gonna tell it anyway.
Yeah.
So, my contact with Banksy was --
He is -- He is as elusive as you can imagine, like, as in --
Is your contact with Banksy, Banksy?
Not really, no. It's like -- It's not really.
Like, you get contacted through notes, like --
It sounds -- Yeah, yeah, it's quite like --
Is it cloak and dagger?
Basically, like, in a nutshell, like --
And then, yeah, it was mad.Are you sending --
Sometimes, can I be real, talking about Banksy,
I feel like...
[Laughter]
Whenever people ask me like about the vest,
I'm like, "Who sent you here?"
Like, yes, but, like, I don't know, yeah.
I might just zip, you know what I mean?
But do you go, "Dear Banksy, I need a large"?
Nah, nah, nah, nah. He -- Anything Banksy does,
that's one thing I can -- I can vouch for Banksy,
is that, um, yeah, he --
He literally found me and said, "I've made something for you.
Like, if you want to wear it, like, if you don't --"
And I was like, "Yeah, I definitely want to wear it.
Please," like -- Please. I was like, "Yeah, please."
And then, yeah, and then, like, we done some fittings for it,
and then yeah, it was just, it was very, very, very,
um, insane to this day.
Did you actually meet him?
I can't -- I can't --You can't say.
He so did.
Went for fittings, I mean.No, no, no, he weren't there.
That's gonna be someone else.He was never there.
Yeah, yeah, he was -- I swear to you,
or shewas never there.
[All exclaiming]
[Laughter]
But, yeah, it was, um --
Yeah, he literally like -- That's why I genuinely feel like
it felt like it was bestowed upon me,
like, as in he found me through the -- and said,
"You are going to wear this vest," yeah.
And then that look became your Madame Tussauds wax work.
But that's not the real -- That's not the real vest, is it?
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Where is the real vest?I'm sure it's --
It's in a museum, I believe.
Called your house.Maybe -- No, no.
And funny, so, after Glasto, I had the vest.
And I've never been so scared in my life,
because people -- That's like -- People do big, what, espionage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had it in my house,
and it's just, like, in my bedroom.
I'm looking at it like, yo, like, I need to get rid of this.
Like, I felt like --
And then I took it to the safe and kept it in the safe.
And now it's at a museum,
because with art, I didn't know this,
but if you have like world famous or world renowned
or very important pieces of art,
it's a thing amongst art collectors
that you're meant to lend it to museums,
because apparently the art is so important to the world
that no one man can have it.Yeah.
Apparently, yeah.That's what they told you.
Yeah, yeah. That's what they told me.
"Thank you very much, Stormzy. I'll have that."
But, no, I love that you were in Madame Tussauds,
and your mother got a bit confused
when you were trying to tell her.
[Laughing] Yeah. Yeah, she's --
Ah, my mum's mad.
Yeah, she got confused, bless her, and, yeah.
But I was like, "Mum, I'm in Madame Tussauds."
And she was like, "Ah. What, barbecue sauce?"
And I was like no.
I was like, "I'm in Madame Tussauds."
And she's like, "Yeah, barbecue --"
I'm like, "No, Mum." So, bless her.
Yeah, we got there in the end, though.
It's a good idea, Stormzy barbecue sauce.
Yeah, not bad. It's not bad.
It's in your future. Yeah.
Weirdly, Motsi sent us in a picture.
Is this a waxwork or the real thing?
Mabuse: No, this is real.
This is amazing.
So, what happened is, I absolutely love, love Oprah.
Everyone loves Oprah.Everyone loves Oprah.
So, you know, I went to South Africa,
and then I moved to Germany.
And then she had this vision tour 2020.
And I was like, "Oh, my God. I manifested this.
I'm going to meet Oprah."
And then they were like, "Yeah, you can take pictures."
And just before we took pictures, she's like,
"I don't want to hear your life story."
That's it.
So we just took the picture, and I was so frightened.
You can see my head.
I was, like, moving away 'cause I was so scared.
But this is real. I love her.
But does she say, "I don't want to hear your life story"
to everybody? Yes.
I mean, imagine you're Oprah Winfrey.
How many stories would you hear?
Like, everybody wants to tell you how they survived.
So... [Laughter]
Like, I don't want to hear it.
Eight hours, "Really? And the bus came?"
So I could understand. Even then I thought,
"Oh, she taught me a lesson."
Again. Boundaries, you know, with time.
You don't get your time back.
I fully understood that. I do it all the time now.
[Laughter]
It doesn't matter who -- "I don't want to hear the story."
The hand.Not interested.
'Cause, Stephen, in one of your first films, "Snatch,"
of course, you got to work with Hollywood great Brad Pitt,
which must've been extraordinary. Yeah.
[Cheers and applause]
But you kind of -- you kind of blagged your way in or --
I suppose, technically, yeah.
Apparently, Guy was only seeing people from London.
So when I went in for the meeting,
I pretended I was from Southeast London.
And I walked in, "Alright, mate?"
And he was like -- Looked at me.
And then I was like, "I've come along for the audition."
And he was like, "You're a Scouser."
And I went..."Yeah, yeah."
And he was like, "No, I've worked with you before."
And I was like, "I know, but I thought
you might have forgotten." He was like, "No."
Anyway, I got the job, so, you know.
But of course, Brad Pitt,
Brad Pitt owes his entire career to someone on our couch.
And that would be Geena Davis. No, 'cause you did --
"Thelma & Louise" was his first film?
He'd done very little. It might have been his first film.
I'm not sure. Yeah.Yeah.
And why did you say yes to him?
[Laughter]
[Applause]
Well, actually, it was down to --
Once I was cast, it was down to four finalists for that role.
And they said, "Will you read with them
so we could see, you know, you're like --"
And each one came in, and each one was very handsome.
They all had brown hair and very talented
but had no, you know --
I didn't care who it was going to be.
And then the fourth one who comes in is Brad Pitt.
And -- And he's so charismatic and so incredibly talented
that I was, like, screwing up his audition
'cause I was just like...
And I'd forget to say my line
'cause I'm just like, "Wow, he's really talented."
So then I didn't know if they wanted my opinion or not,
but I said, "Would you be interested to know
what my reaction was?" And they went, "Oh, yeah, please."
I was like, "The blond one?!"
It wasn't my --
I was not responsible for --
Well, you kind of are.
Do you know what happened to the other three?
Yes. I didn't know who they were at the time,
but it turns out it was Grant Show and Mark Ruffalo.
And then the third person I was sitting next to
on a flight from Europe back to L.A.
And the flight attendants met me at the door and said,
"Guess who you're sitting next to!"
And I said, "Guess who he'ssitting next to."
Cause for once in my life,
I said the right thing at the right time.
And anyway, this -- this gentleman
was, you know, very friendly and great.
And he finally said, "You know, I hate Brad Pitt."
I said, "No, you don't.
He's like a really good friend of yours."
He said, "No, I hate him because he got the part."
And I said, "Oh, did -- did you want the part?"
And he said, "You couldn't tell when I auditioned with you?"
And it was George Clooney.
[Audience exclaiming]
And you didn't remember him at all?
No, no.
[Applause]
Well, Geena Davis,
she talks about that and much more
in her new memoir, "Dying of Politeness."
It's out now. And "Thelma & Louise,"
it kind of relates to the title, because Susan Sarandon,
you learnt something from watching her work.
Absolutely, from watching her move through her life, yeah.
So, it's called "Dying of Politeness"
because my family was raised to be insanely polite,
and more than just saying please and thank you,
but you could never need anything from anybody else.
You had to say no to everything
and be very, you know, self-effacing.
Anyway, so by the time I met her,
I was still prefacing everything I said with,
"This is probably a stupid idea, but, I mean, could we possibly?"
And then the day I met her,
immediately, you know, she was like,
"Well, I think we should cut my first line, and then --"
And I was like, "Wait.
You can be like that? A woman can be like that?"
And I looked at Ridley Scott. He's like,
"Yeah, you know, whatever." Like, wow.
My mind was, like, blown.
It sounds crazy, but, really, I really was so unused
to ever seeing a woman just say what she thinks.
Yeah.And not being,
you know, self-effacing like that.
But also, I mean, you talk about your family there.
It does come from a deep place.
I mean, the stories in this book -- Your family --
I mean, the classic story is the story
where you're driving with your --
Is it your Great-Uncle Jack?Great-Uncle Jack, yeah.
So how old was Great-Uncle Jack?99.
And he's behind the wheel of the car.
He was behind the wheel, right.
And my parents and I were in the back seat,
and my Aunt Marion was in the front.
And we're going down this very narrow road at night.
And every once in a while, Uncle Jack
would just veer into the oncoming traffic.
Thankfully no one was coming, and then veer back.
And my parents weren't going to say anything,
but my mom put me in the middle between them
in case, you know, when we had the head-on collision,
I might die less, maybe.
So now he veers into the other lane,
but a car is coming and closing the gap.
closing the gap. There's nowhere for them
to pull off, you know,
And no one says anything.
At the last instant, my aunt says,
"A little to the right, Jack."
He just veers out of the way,
And they went by so close. Their faces were like, "Aah."
And, yeah, so, my parents
would literally rather die
and kill their child
than say something that Uncle Jack might be...
Offended by....yeah, offended by.
So they're very polite.
And then you become an actress.Right.
So they have to go see your movies.
So, like, when they went to see your first movie,
"Tootsie," were they polite, or did they tell you the truth?
Well, my brother and I went with my parents,
and it was the middle of the day,
and nobody else was in the theater.
So they had no opportunity to see how other people might,
you know, real people might react to it.
And we left the theater, and my brother said, "That was great."
We get in the car, and there's silence.
There's nothing. Nobody's saying anything.
And like 20 minutes go by where no one has said --
I just was in a movie, and nobody said anything.
And then my mom finally said, "So what'll we have for dinner?"
They never said anything because --
Never acknowledged it at all?
Well, no, and it was because
I was in my underwear in the movie.
Oh.They didn't know what to say.
Yeah.Okay, so that's mad.
You're then in "The Fly."
Did you even let them see "The Fly"?
Yes. They were with my brother at the time,
and they went to see it, and I knew
that they were watching it.
And then I'm not getting a phone call.
And so I called my brother. He says,
"Oh, yeah, I love the movie. It's so great."
I said, "Well, put Mom and Dad on."
"They don't want to talk to you."
I said, "What?" And my dad in the background says,
"You got to make better movies than that
if you want me to watch them!"
I said, "Put Mom on the phone."
"Hello?"
"Mom, what's -- What's wrong?"
"Well, you know."
I said, "What?"
"There's parts of that I didn't like."
"Well, what, Mom?"
"You know." "No, I don't, Mom.
Is it when the monkey turns inside-out
or when Jeff's ear falls off
or when I give birth to a maggot? I just --
I literally don't know what you're talking about."
And she said, "It was [Whispering] the sex."
And I'm like, "Oh, my God." I mean --
But I have to tell you, another story
was when I made "Long Kiss Goodnight."
It was very "R" rated, very vulgar.
And I was the first female actor
ever to say "Suck my dick" in a movie.
Oh!Thank you.
The women going, "Whoo! Whoo! Whoo!"
I always wondered who that was.
Yeah.That's great to know.
It was me.It's you.
So anyway, I was like "What if my parents --
They can't even watch this movie."
So, I got a video made of it
with all the swear words and all the --
anything, you know, that they would disapprove of,
take it out. And I said, I just want to spare you
from having to go to the movie theater,
but just watch it at home, you know, so...
And it was very short, I imagine.
It was very short.
But was that the one that was directed
by your husband Renny Harlin?Renny Harlin, yes, yes.
So did he do that for you?He did it for me, yes.
Oh, that's so nice, yeah.So nice.
And you did a couple of films with your husband.
And, Stephen, now, you've worked with your wife, Hannah,
a couple times.Yes.
And, now, you played husband and wife, didn't you, in "Time"?
Yes, we did.So was that weird,
blurring those lines of --
It's not really. She's a phenomenal actress.
do you know what I mean? She is absolutely fantastic.
So it was just -- What it was for us,
I think, more importantly, we're kind of, you know,
two kids from a council estate. We had a dream of being actors,
you know what I mean? And we were kind of lying in the bed
and the whole camera crew were around us,
and it was like we just had this really lovely moment,
and we just kind of looked around,
and then we looked at each other, and we went,
"Wow, can you believe this?" And she was like,
"No, this is -- this is amazing. We're living our dream."
And I went, "Oh, yeah, it's phenomenal."
And then I farted.
Just because I was so comfortable
in the bed with me missus.
And then she went, "You dirty b--
There's loads of people in here. It's not just me in here."
And I was like, "Sorry, love. I was feeling a bit comfortable.
It was like I was really at home in bed, you know what I mean?"
So I ruined a beautiful moment.
Nature.Yeah.
Well, just remind you that Geena's book
is "Dying of Politeness," and it's out in hardback now.
Okay.
[Cheers and applause]
Stephen Graham, Stephen Graham brings us
a fantastic, challenging drama. It's called "The Walk-In."
It's currently showing on ITV Mondays at 9:00.
Or you can watch the whole series on the ITV hub.
So I guess the starting point for this
is that this is a true story, 'cause when you watch it,
you kind of think this -- But it is. It's true,
and it happened in this country.
Yeah, and it's all based on true events.
And the writer, Jeff Pope, who's phenomenal,
he's wrote -- I did a show for Jeff
a few years ago now called "Little Boy Blue."
But this is very close to my heart.
You know what I mean? It's -- I think it's --
It's a very poignant drama. It's powerful.
And I also think that, you know, personally,
for me to be a part of stuff that has a social commentary
and kind of, you know, is really relevant
to what's happening today -- It's about a Neo-Nazi group
who, you know, were dismantled, and they were taken to court.
And all of these these people were -- They were the first
white supremacists and white terrorists
to be convicted in our country.
But the walk-ins are people
that the man Matthew kind of inserts into the groups.
Yes. As a young man, he was in the National Front,
and then he kind of realized the error of his ways.
And with me being a mixed-race man, you know what I mean?
Growing up as a kid, the National Front were --
They were quite rife back in the late '70s and early '80s,
you know what I mean? So I saw that side of it,
as well, predominantly.
Did you meet your character?
I did, yeah. Yeah, we had a few conversations,
and then kind of -- I don't like to do impersonations of people.
I like to kind of take it on myself and try
and create my own character. Do you know what I mean?
And I think it's really relevant,
and I think it's very poignant for today
and for people to -- you know, it's going down a storm.
No pun intended.
[Laughter]
Let's see a clip.
This is from next week's episode.
And it's you and your wife, played by Leanne Best,
preparing to bring a walk-in into your home.
This is ridiculous.
He's just going to live with us now?
You don't know the first thing about him.
It won't be for long.
Yeah, I don't think it's dead tight
to have Mikey sleep on a camp bed.
[Speaks indistinctly]
I couldn't just leave him there, could I?
Because you know what my problem is?
He's got a target on his back now 'cause of what he's done,
and you've brought it into our home.
I had no choice.
You would have done the same thing, Ali.
You see, and that -- that's the kind of -- I mean,
that's the severity of the fella
who I played, Matthew Collins, that's the severity
him and his family had to go through
through bringing these people to justice.
Do you know what I mean? They have to keep moving house
and hiding 'cause they get found out where they live
and, you know, the houses can be petrol-bombed,
and the kids are threatened and stuff like that,
all because they're trying to bring these people to justice.
And obviously on the show, there's children in the show,
and there's lots of actors and background artists.
But there was one background artist
who apparently was very impressed to see you.
Do you know who I'm talking about?
No.
Yes, you do.
Is it -- What? I mean --
There was one, she kept saying --
She got confused.
She thought I was someone else.
I thought she was being really nice.
And she went to me, "You're doing really well for yourself,
aren't you?" I was like, "Ah, thank you, love."
You know how extras can have conversations with you.
Sorry, supporting artists can have conversations
with you, and you're like, "Oh, okay," you know.
And they have really interesting conversations sometimes.
And she went, "You're doing really well for yourself."
Went, "Ah, thank you very much." And you're being polite.
You know what I mean? And then I was like, "Yeah, yeah."
And she went "'Cause I never thought it'd happen for you."
I was like...
"Okay. Okay. Where are we going now then?"
And she was like, "Well, you know, after 'Big Brother.'"
[Laughter]
And I was like, "What the... Hang on. Sorry, love. What?"
And she went, "Well, you're Craig from 'Big Brother.'"
There you are. There you go. Look, see?
Yeah. Yeah.
Wow. Oh. That's fabulous.
I love that she thought that Craig from "Big Brother"
was playing the lead in "The Walk-In."
I know. It's just one of them things.
But the crew -- Yes, yes. Go on, Graham.
You're going to show it, aren't you?
Yes, yes, the crew. What did the crew do?
The crew overheard this conversation.
Yes, they did overhear, yes.
And Aaron, our wonderful DOP, decided it'd be great
for on my final day,
when I had a big, heavy scene with me wife and kids,
that the crew would all have these T-shirts on.
We've got a picture.There they are.
[Laughter]
There's Aaron, the big lad there on the back.
[Applause]
And Pete and all the boys, yeah.
So they all -- they all wore them T-shirts
for the whole day, yeah.
That was great. Yeah, that was --
Listen, I must say to you while you're here,
just congratulations on the success of "Boiling Point,"
'cause that was your -- your first movie as a producer,
as well as a star, right?
With our little company.Yeah.
We were part of that, Matriarch Productions.
And you guys -- It's a whole movie in one take.
Oh, I heard about that. Yeah.
Yeah, everybody heard about it 'cause -- Yeah.
Very intense, yeah.Have you seen it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.Oh, nice.
I still get a bit -- You know what I mean?
I mean, he's a legend. Phenomenal.
But just this morning, really exciting announcement.
"Boiling Point" continues.
Yes. Yes. We're going to do a TV series for the BBC.
So, yeah, we're really looking forward to it.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
And, you know, it's --
Well, it's most of the cast. I think we're going to --
we're going to have most of the cast back,
Hannah, obviously, and Vinette
and our wonderful director, Phil, who's just phenomenal.
We're going to make a five-part series,
and it's going to be kind of more of
a kind of social commentary, you know what I mean?
But with the intensity of working in the kitchen.
And when might that actually be on telly?
Well, I think we start filming in January,
so it will probably be towards
the end the next year, maybe next autumn, the show.
Well, listen, we look forward to the TV version.
And just a reminder, "The Walk-In" continues on ITV
on Mondays at 9:00.
Okay. Now...
[Cheers and applause]
Great news, ladies and gentlemen.
Just don't tell Oprah.
Motsi Mabuse has written her life story.
Yeah. I mean, Oprah, she doesn't want to read this.
She doesn't want to read this.She does not want to read this.
Keep it away from that woman.
It's called "Finding My Own Rhythm."
And it is out now. And of course,
this is, you know, your story, but it's not just your story.
Your family's in here.Yes.
So have they read it? Are they okay with it?
Well, they haven't. [Laughs]
I didn't ask.
I'll give it for Christmas. No, you know what?
No, the thing is, my family, everybody in our family
has a view, an opinion about everything in my life.
So I was like, "Let me do this on my own
so that I can put it down as I saw it.
And they can write their own book afterwards.
[Laughter]
Is it your story from like age zero to now?
Yes, from South Africa, from birth until now, yeah.
That's -- Every time people do that, I always feel like,
how do they remember?
I would never --
I wouldn't remember what I did.
Well, there's that interesting chapter
about the couch in the front room.
You know what I mean? But that's it.
I think mine would start there
and probably end here, like, you know what I mean?
But you're young, Stormzy!
You're supposed to remember shit.
Yeah, no, I don't remember much, you know?
I don't remember -- It's all a blur,
especially since I've become a musician, like...
So big up yourself for doing that,
'cause that takes a lot.
Norton: Yeah. Memory. Memory.Yeah, memory.
Yeah. And actually, some of the story, we kind of knew.
You know, the idea of you being a young girl in South Africa
and discovering dance, ballroom dance.
But I didn't understand that that young girl in South Africa
had a big dream. Yes.
What was your dream?
My dream, my absolutely everything,
my goal was to go to Blackpool. I mean --
[Laughter]
Yes! You heard her.
[Laughter]
It is. It was --
I saw a video when I was a little girl in South Africa.
I saw a video with Kevin Clifton
and his sister walking on the beach,
speaking about Blackpool and dancing and all that.
And I was like, "This is what I have to do.
This is -- This is the goal."
That was the reason for everything.
And then you worked at that dream.
I mean, you -- you saved up money.
You found a partner. And then I know for a fact
that in 1998, the dream came true.
Yes.Here is a clip of Motsi Mabuse
on her first trip to Blackpool,
can I just say, rocking the peach.
♪♪
Wow!
[Cheers and applause]
[Speaks indistinctly]
Was it 200 couples?
Yes, were about 250 couples, something like that.
And it was so funny, because we, at that competition,
we were seventh. Like coming from South Africa,
no lessons, nothing. We came, and we were seventh.
And I was a tiny, little bit disappointed,
a tiny, little bit. I was like, "Oh, seventh."
But people came to me, were like, "Oh, you were seventh.
You were seventh." So by the time I arrived
back to South Africa, I was like, "I was seventh, people.
I was seventh in Blackpool."
But, like, were you famous when you got back to South Africa?
Well, no. Yeah, well, within the dance industry,
I think it was a first. Like you don't come to UK,
and people kind of celebrate you and then you -- Seventh?
And then in the dance industry, we made a name for us.
They took us seriously from then on.
And then you make this kind of impetuous decision.
You move to Germany. And then after a few years,
you end up on the German version of "Strictly Come Dancing"
called "Let's Dance"!
[Laughter]
That's what it's called!
Let's dance! [Speaks indistinctly]
Let's dance!
[Laughter]
I still live there, Graham. I need to go back home.
They won't see this.
And -- So you're -- But you weren't a judge.
You were one of the professionals originally.
And you were a judge, but you were a professional.
And so you were paired with this German celebrity?
Yeah. [Laughing]
I'm not a mind reader.
[Laughter]
Listen.
I love that face, going like, "Jesus wept."
[Laughter]
I have to explain the situation.
So, the thing is,
I did not know German celebrities when I arrived.
Obviously, I'm in my dance bubble and stuff,
So they told me,
like, "We think you're going to dance with someone."
And then they said, "Watch YouTube."
And he was at the Eurovision Song Contest,
like climbing up the wall, literally.
And they're like, "That's your partner."
And I'm just like, "What's happening here?"
But we did dance.
He's a nice guy. Really.
Whoa.
No!
[Laughter]
I never want you as a character witness.
[Laughter]
"He's -- You know, he's nice."
He was -- He was really, really nice.
And I had a little thing that happened with him.
Careful, guys.
What happened was, I had a few people's names in my phone,
and he was Guildo Horn and Hans Galke, my teacher.
They were all, like, in one kind of thing.
And then we were just practicing, and I was like,
"This went shit. Didn't work out.
He's like this and this." I'm not going to put in words.
And then it went, "Ping-ping." And he's sitting next to me.
[Audience groans]Yes, guys.
And I was just like, "Hi."
Oh, no, you'd sent it to him?
Yes, I sent it --Oh, fuck. Oh.
[Laughter]
Yes. But the thing -- I tried to explain the situation.
"It's not you. It's me," and this whole thing.
[Laughter]
I have to control my feelings.
But, I mean, we were really good friends, honestly.
Like, we overcome that.
Christmas together. Christmas together. Yeah, it'd be nice.
It's a story I wanted to tell Oprah
[Laughter]
Text her.
Now, big year, obviously, for "Strictly" in this country,
the 20th anniversary.
Stormzy, have you been asked to do it?
Nah, nah, they wouldn't ask me. Nah, nah, nah.
Tall.Nah, nah, nah. I can't dance.
Dancing is -- I get really uncomfortable when I dance.
You see how I was sweating earlier? When I dance, like --
So, we do something funny.
So, you see, you know, like
I was going to call it South London culture,
but it's not South London culture.
But you know like Jamaican culture,
that carnival, people wearing --
When we was younger, we used to go to parties
and everyone would like -- The girls would whine on the boys.
And I'm such a bad dancer.
When girls used to try and whine with me,
I used to run away in the party.
I would literally like, they're coming over,
and I used to get really upset, and I'll start getting flustered
and start sweating, 'cause people's watching,
and the girl starts backing up.
And, you know, I'm thinking, "No, no, please, please."
Yeah, yeah, so I can't -- I can't dance,
so, please, "Strictly," just --
It sounds like a challenge.
No, no, no.I'm being challenged here.
Okay.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't worry.
Because, Geena, "Dancing with the Stars"
is the American version. Have they ever asked you?
They did. Yeah, they did one year.
But, and, you know, I'm incredibly competitive,
and I like to prove I can do something that I can't do.
But I didn't -- I didn't say yes.
I don't know. I got self-conscious.
What's that thing? Oh, yeah, you're rich.
[Laughter]
Why would you do that?
Here's the thing, though. I did not know this.
Stephen Graham, hiding your light.
You are a dancer.
No, I'm not.
Weren't you in a dance troupe?
You were in a dance troupe, weren't you?
I was a breakdancer. There's a difference.
That's dancing!We love that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
We love that.But you took it seriously.
There was a bunch of you.Well -- [Laughs]
Before we go further, can I just assure you,
I'm not going to ask you to do any breakdancing.
Thank God. Thank God for that.I saw your face going,
"Jesus, where is this going?" Don't worry.
I'm nearly 50. I'll pull a hip or something.
Do you know what I mean? I'm not gonna ask you to dance.
We used to go to -- I remember once,
me Auntie Vera, God rest her soul,
we used to go -- We used to get our lino,
and we used to get the ghetto blaster,
and we'd go, and we'd have, like Grandmaster Flash and Melle Mel
and, you know, all that kind of fantastic stuff back in the day.
And we used to break dance, and we -- yeah.
We were in a crew. We were a little crew.
We were half decent, me and a couple --
So did you just, like, roll around breakdancing?
No, I used to windmill, no-handed windmill.
Don't -- No-handed windmills.
I mean, if you want to pop and lock, you know what I mean?
It's just the thought of you with all your friends
like, "Yo, let's hit the road and breakdance."
No, we were a crew!Okay.
We were a little crew, do you know what I mean?
They had a name. What were you called?
What were you called, the Bronx Brothers?
The Bronx Breakers, yeah.Oh, the Bronx Breakers.
We used to go into town. We used to put the lino down,
and the people would gather 'round.
We'd make a good couple of quid.
Play the video, Graham.
I don't have a --He doesn't have anything.
No videos exist.
Yeah, but, you know, it was great. It -- Yeah.
Bring in the lino. No, no, no.
Hey, here's the thing, though. If you want to see --
I don't know if you dance, but you certainly sing
in the new version of "Matilda the Musical."
Yeah.You do sing in it, don't you?
A little bit, yeah, a little bit.
Do you do a bit of dancing?No. No, no, no, no.
What's up with the dancing in this show?
Are you all anti-dancers?
No.Dancing's difficult, man.
It's tough.No, come on, guys.
No, it's tough.
Your kind of dancing's too difficult.
No.Even like for me,
like a two step, like, I think about it.
"1, 2." Yeah, it's a lot.
It's a lot. It's a lot.
It's a start.It's a start.
I see talent.
But can I be real, though?
If I had one wish, it would be to be able to dance.
I --And I'm -- That's not --
I'm not lying there. Sometimes, yeah.
I got mates who can dance, and I always feel like
if I could dance, I would be one of those people
who just dances all the time.
Just call me.
Dreams come true.
Let's just remind people of "Strictly" tomorrow night
at 6:30 on BBC One and iPlayer.
This week, the theme is 100 years of the BBC, I'm told.
And of course, Motsi's book, "Finding My Own Rhythm,"
is out now! Very good. Okay.
It is time for music.
And dancing.
[Cheers and applause]
[All speaking indistinctly]
You're on, Stormzy. Your stool is over there.
It awaits, so off you go.
Cool, wicked. I'm trying to think, do I wear my jacket?
No, no, no, no. You'll sweat. You'll start sweating.
Tell you what, take your jacket over with you.
Alright, cool.And then you can decide.
Alright, cool. Okay.
If it feels a bit cold.
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Do it for the looks. Do it for the looks. Put it on.
Do I go that way?Just go that way.
It's over there. It's probably quicker.
Yeah.
Alright!
There he goes!
Here with the exclusive first live performance
of "Hide & Seek" from the new album "This Is What I Mean" --
Is he there? He is --
It is Stormzy!
[Cheers and applause]
[Vocalizing]
♪♪
♪ Oh, girl, you're shining, know you're my diamond ♪
♪ You need reminding this moment of timing when your ♪
♪ Soul needs aligning, it's me you confide in ♪
♪ Seeking and hiding, you know where to find me, babe ♪
♪ Feeling
♪ Pressure
♪ Diamonds ♪ You know where to find me, babe ♪
♪ What's it gonna be? What we gonna do? ♪
♪ Here we go again, this ain't nuttin' new ♪
♪ I ain't tryna run game but it's true 'cause you ♪
♪ Came and you made me feel ♪
♪ You call me for help, you gotta chill ♪
♪ Need time for yourself, you gotta heal ♪
♪ This ain't somethin' you felt, it's how you feel ♪
♪ You came and you made me feel ♪
♪ A'ight, we built this all wrong, I'll take blame ♪
♪ But instead of us tearing it down, we'll rearrange, baby ♪
♪ Don't let it fall
♪ Don't let it fall, girl, don't let it fall ♪
♪ Don't wanna fight no more, keep me where I belong ♪
♪ I've tried and I've tried ♪
♪ But I just can't hide from your love ♪
♪ Oh, girl, you're shining, know you're my diamond ♪
♪ You need reminding this moment of timing when your ♪
♪ Soul needs aligning, it's me you confide in ♪
♪ Seeking and hiding, you know where to find me, babe ♪
♪ Feeling ♪ I can feel it
♪ Pressure
♪ Pressure ♪ Don't you get that
♪ Diamonds ♪ You know where to find me, babe ♪
♪ Feeling ♪ I can feel it
♪ Pressure ♪ Feel the pressure
♪ Pressure
♪ Diamonds ♪ You're my diamond, oh
♪ What we looking for? Lemme search now ♪
♪ Take your shoes off, put your purse down ♪
♪ How you gonna tell me that it's never gonna work now? ♪
♪ Type of stuff to make me put a verse down ♪
♪ Worse now, 'cause we made our bed and we gotta lay in it ♪
♪ Thought it wasn't hard for me but every day it is ♪
♪ Heartbreak's such a dark place but we stay in it ♪
♪ What I'm saying is exactly what I say it is, I found you ♪
♪ I feel your presence when I'm not around you ♪
♪ Queen in your city, they need to crown you ♪
♪ Holy water, baby, let me drown you ♪
♪ Fire and water, I gotta 'low you ♪
♪ Burn out then reappear
♪ Light still guiding you home, you know I'm there ♪
♪ And rest assured if you ever needed help ♪
♪ Or just need a place to hide
♪ Know I'll keep it to myself, word ♪
♪ Oh, girl, you're shining ♪
♪ Know you're my diamond
♪ You need reminding this moment of timing when your ♪
♪ Soul needs aligning, it's me you confide in ♪
♪ Seeking and hiding, you know where to find me, babe ♪
♪ Feeling
♪ Pressure
♪ Diamonds ♪ You know where to find me, babe ♪
♪ Feeling
♪ Pressure
♪ Diamonds
♪ Feeling ♪ Oh, girl, you're shining
♪ Pressure ♪ You know you're my diamond
♪ Pressure ♪ You need reminding
♪ Diamonds ♪ This moment of timing when your ♪
♪ Feeling ♪ Soul needs aligning
♪ Pressure ♪ It's me you confide in
♪ Pressure ♪ Seeking and hiding
♪ Diamonds ♪ You know where to find me, babe ♪
[Cheers and applause]
Norton: What about that, everyone?!
Stormzy!
His band, his backing vocalists.
Such a great job.
Really, really beautiful. Have a seat there.
That's your drink. Beautiful job.
Wow!
So good.
Thank you guys.Really great.
Thank you, man. Thank you guys. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
So good, really good.
And your voice, your singing voice.
Have you been working on your singing voice?
I've been trying. I've been trying.
I got my vocal coach --It's beautiful.
Really, really lovely. And it's been a while.
Like, were you nervous before you did that?
Yeah, super nervous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, super nervous.
So cool and calm. No, it's always like --
Performing, I think the more intimate is,
the more nerve-racking it is.
But, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was -- Yeah, it was --
Absolutely phenomenal. Thank you, thank you.
Remind everybody, the album "This Is What I Mean"
is out on the 25th of November.
So you can preorder that.
Thank you so much for that performance.
Good luck with that album and all your success, Stormzy.
Thank you so much. Stormzy, everyone!
Wowza.
Really, so beautiful.
That is nearly it. But before we go,
we do have time for a quick visit to the Big Red Chair.
Who's up first? Hello.
Hello.Hi. High hopes for you.
What's your name?Jenny.
Jenny. Lovely. And what do you do, Jenny?
I'm a disability support worker.
Okay. Where do you do that?
Well, I do it in Ireland at the moment, but also in Australia,
'cause I got to live there, as well.
Oh, okay. Okay, very good. Whereabouts in Ireland?
Wicklow, so not really near Cork.
No, but Wicklow's lovely. Very nice.
Okay, off you go with your story.
So, I have two belly buttons,
and I use them to get free drinks.
Now we're talking!
Yes!
Bring it home, Ireland!
Bring it home!
Oh, yeah.
Show us! Show us! Show!
I want to see it.So, that's not the whole story.
Okay. Okay. You've got two belly buttons.
Yeah. So I use them to get free drinks a lot,
and there's a lot of stories, but one of them --
I go on a birthday adventure every year, so I went --
Can we just -- We need to backtrack slightly.
Is one just something that looks like a belly button
or do you have two belly buttons?
They're legit, yeah.
So, what, you had two umbilical cords?
Well, the doctor thinks I could have absorbed my twin
in the womb.
Ooh.We don't know.
You wanted a story.
She ate her own twin.In the womb.
Jenny: I do have a good appetite, so...
You wanted a story. You got a story.
Yeah, wow. That's not even her story.
That's just a by-the-by.
So you've eaten your twin.
You've got the two belly buttons.
You're now out on a birthday adventure. Okay, go.
So I was in Queenstown in New Zealand,
and there was an Irish bartender at one of the bars.
So I'd shown him the buttons the night before,
and I got some free drinks out of --
So I was like, Right, this is place to go for my birthday.
Gonna get some free drinks.
And they had cocktails in teapots there.
So I went up to him, and I was like, "Right,
any chance of some free teapots now?
I know I've shown you the buttons,
but come on, it's my birthday."
And he was like, "Actually, wait there.
We've got a colleague who's terrified of belly buttons.
And if we get you to show you them,
like, we will give you free teapots
for the rest of the night if you show your belly buttons
to our colleague." I was like, "Yeah, let's do it."
So they brought me over to the bar
where it goes up like this.
And they grabbed her by the shoulders so she couldn't move.
And they were like, "Go, go, go!"
So down went the waistband and out came the buttons,
and I showed them to her, and she was like, "Aah!"
And she completely freaked out and started crying and left.
And they high-fived me,
and they gave me free teapots for the rest of the night.
That was a very good story.
Now -- Yeah, I know.
Now, you're free to walk,
but can we -- Can we see?
Okay. I'm not unbuttoned yet.
Oh, okay. Okay. Look away. Look away, everyone. Look away.
I'll just stand like this.Ready?
Wait, wait.
Oh, there -- There they are!
An upstairs and a downstairs. You can walk. You can walk.
There we go.
And that really is all we've got time for.
If you'd like to have go in the Red Chair yourself
and tell your story, you can contact us
via our website at this very address.
You didn't think you'd see that tonight, did you? No.
Please say thank you to all of our guests.
Stormzy![Cheers and applause]
Motsi Mabuse!
Stephen Graham!
And Geena Davis!
Join me next week with singer- songwriter Lady Blackbird,
footballer turned presenter Alex Scott,
Oscar winner Eddie Redmayne,
pop superstar Taylor Swift, and rock legend Bono.
I'll see you then. Good night, everybody. Bye-bye!
♪♪