1 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,575 I've got two music superstars on the show tonight. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,615 Bono. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:11,615 Good evening. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:12,655 And Taylor Swift. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,735 Hi, Graham. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,655 Which is good, cos I finally get the chance to sing my 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,655 U2-Taylor Swift mash-up. 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:18,735 HE CLEARS HIS THROAT. 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,335 No, no, I don't know about this. 10 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,295 I think we should just do the show. 11 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,535 Let's start the show! 12 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,175 His program me contains some strong language 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,415 This program me contains some strong language 14 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:35,455 Oh! 15 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:40,335 Hello! 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,495 Hello, good evening, you're all so welcome to the show. 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,255 And it's Halloween weekend. 18 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,775 Ooh! 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,055 Halloween, when those who have departed come back to haunt us. 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,055 LAUGHTER. 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,215 There's our glorious new leader, making his first speech 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,215 behind the now famous Downing Street lectern. 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,655 Almost four foot high and made completely of wood, 24 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,735 Rishi Sunak is our new Prime Minister. 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,375 LAUGHTER. 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,535 I wasn't talking about... 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,935 One of the first things Sunak is going to do 28 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:20,015 is squeeze the wealthy. 29 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,655 "Pay your taxes, darling!" 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,695 Rishi does get accused of being out of touch with common people 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,295 because he's so rich - but to be fair to him, 32 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:35,975 this week he was spotted happily chatting away with someone who's 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,295 a lot poorer than he is. 34 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,615 LAUGHTER. 35 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,295 Let's get some guests on! 36 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,295 Later we'll have music from the stunning vocals 37 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:51,615 of Lady Blackbird! 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,375 But first, she's the broadcaster and former Arsenal and England 39 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,295 footballer whose powerful new memoir is How (Not) To Be Strong - 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:04,615 please welcome Alex Scott. 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,135 Wowza, you look amazing. 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,535 Have a seat, do. 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,575 He's the Oscar-winning star of Theory of Everything, 44 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,095 Les Mis and Fantastic Beasts, it's Eddie Redmayne, everybody! 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,535 Hello. 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,535 Reign 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:24,735 how 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:24,895 6P6 49 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:29,575 'Nu? 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,615 I'm really well. 51 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:35,815 Have a seat, do. 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,455 With hits like Shake It Off, Love Story and Blank Space, 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,895 this record-breaking singer-songwriter is one of 54 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:41,575 the biggest pop stars in the world. 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,575 It's... 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,655 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,175 Taylor Swift, everybody! 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,695 Have a seat, do. 59 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,295 And that's not all. 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,935 And in a career spanning over four decades, he's won 22 Grammy Awards 61 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,735 and is the lead singer of one of the world's biggest bands - 62 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,455 it's Bono everybody! 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,415 Oh, yes, oh, yes. 64 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,255 Are we doing hugging? 65 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,295 Go, say hello. 66 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,375 Not a bad line-up. 67 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,415 Welcome, all. 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,815 So lovely to see you all. 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,855 Scrubbing up. 70 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,215 Very nice. 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,495 Scrubbed up, thanks for having us. 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,415 So, Taylor and Bono, have you worked together? 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,415 No? 74 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,415 Not yet. 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,175 We're going to talk about it later. 76 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,255 OK. 77 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,655 But no, but, Bono, you did a very nice thing 78 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,855 when Taylor got to Ireland. 79 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:50,895 I've been... 80 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:51,935 I'm a Swifty. 81 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,655 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 82 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,975 We're highly aerial birds, you know. 83 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,655 Ancl over the years we've, you know, we've bumped into each other. 84 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,615 Became friends. 85 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,975 Ancl he doesn't want to take credit for the fact that he's so nice. 86 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,175 He sent me roses when I played in Dublin. 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,815 He doesn't take credit for doing anything. 88 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,655 Red roses, you know. 89 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:20,855 He's a truly great person. 90 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,975 There you are, from your Irish fan club, Bono, 91 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,215 the Edge, Adam and Larry. 92 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,895 Ancl he's just that great and thoughtful. 93 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,055 Just the best there is. 94 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,295 I better have a drink. 95 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,335 Here's the thing. 96 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,015 So Bono and Taylor, not worked together, 97 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,175 but weirdly, Taylor and Eddie, you have worked together. 98 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,215 We have. 99 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,255 Oh, wow. 100 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:36,295 Yeah. 101 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,455 It was a decade ago. 102 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,575 I once died in his arms in a screen test for Les Mis. 103 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,975 Oh, I did not know this. 104 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,215 I did not know this. 105 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,255 Yeah, that... 106 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:49,655 There's a lot that people don't know about this story. 107 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,055 Basically, I was auditioning for two roles in Les Mis, 108 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,175 and I'd clone a few auditions and gone to New York and whatever. 109 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,775 And I think it had been established that I had more 110 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,215 of a look of Cosette, but I had the range, 111 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,815 vocally, of Eponine. 112 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:07,015 So it was established that, like, I was there for a good 113 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,415 time, not a long time. 114 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,535 I wasn't going to get this role, but they were like, you know, 115 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,415 do you want to come to London for one last screen test 116 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,575 and you'll get to screen test with Eddie Redmayne? 117 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,735 I'm like, this seems like an experience I want 118 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:23,935 to have in my life. 119 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,615 You're like one of my favorite actors. 120 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,655 You're so ridiculously talented. 121 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,055 Ancl I was like, so, yeah, I'll go to London. 122 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,095 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 123 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,255 Yes, indeed. 124 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:35,575 I get there and they're like, OK, so we really want to like make 125 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,935 you look like Eponine. 126 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,895 You know, she, she she wasn't, like, loaded. 127 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,055 She had brown teeth, you know, like she didn't 128 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,495 have a lot of money, so... 129 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,655 A 19th century street urchin. 130 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,295 I tried to say it in a way that makes sense. 131 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,295 She didn't floss. 132 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,375 Exactly. 133 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,535 They were like, we're actually going to paint your teeth brown for this. 134 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,335 Ancl I'm like, so you're going to do that after I meet 135 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,415 Eddie Redmayne, right? 136 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,295 That's that's not something you do before, I get to meet people 137 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,015 and then you do the brown teeth? 138 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,895 They're like, no, no, everybody's going to meet 139 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,055 you with the brown teeth. 140 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,535 We're going to like, do, like, 141 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,735 big circles under your eyes. 142 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:11,775 Like you're near death. 143 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,815 Ancl I was like, this has immediately become a nightmare for me. 144 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:17,695 You know, you were so nice, but I think when I met 145 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,735 you, I was like... 146 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,735 MUMBLES: "It's so nice to meet you." 147 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,575 You know, you walked in as a 19th century French street urchin. 148 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,135 And I was not expecting that. 149 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,935 But my overwhelming memory of it, Taylor, was I had just been 150 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,095 to Pizza Express beforehand, and I'd had some some 151 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,175 some garlic dough balls. 152 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,335 Oh, God. 153 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,015 I thought we were going to be singing opposite each other, 154 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,695 you know, but but they had us... 155 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,335 It was so weird because Taylor was dressed fully as Eponine 156 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,975 and I was, like, in my tracksuit. 157 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,415 And they had us on the floor, like singing sweet 158 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,455 nothings into each other. 159 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,855 And all I knew is I just had garlic breath. 160 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,775 Ancl I had brown teeth. 161 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:56,775 Garlic breath symphony. 162 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,735 So just was one of these, I was trying to show emotion, 163 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,815 and at the same time not to punish you. 164 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:02,935 You were weeping. 165 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,575 Ancl I just thought it was because of how I looked. 166 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,615 Felt so bad. 167 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,015 Like, I have to be close to her right now. 168 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,455 Yeah, this was not the method? 169 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,095 It's nice to hear we were both struggling in that moment. 170 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,295 It was a beautiful audition. 171 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,655 And, Alex, I feel that because... 172 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,815 Now you nearly met Taylor once before. 173 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,135 Nearly, on Strictly Come Dancing. 174 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,095 I got all the way to the quarterfinal, 175 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,375 got booted out at that stage, obviously devastated. 176 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,975 But when they told me the news, oh, next week's music 177 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,215 act is Taylor Swift, I was like, seriously? 178 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,855 I just need one more week. 179 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,055 Let me come back. 180 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,055 The following week. 181 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,775 I finally did it. 182 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,015 But now here we are. 183 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,015 Yeah, yeah! 184 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:50,015 Talking about Les Mis, Samantha Barks is of my closest friends. 185 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,175 Never go to a karaoke bar with Samantha Barks, she's amazing. 186 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,895 I was singing Lady Marmalade, giving it all I got. 187 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,575 And then she just gets up and then I was like, 188 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,615 oh, yeah, I remember. 189 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:02,575 I can't actually sing. 190 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,855 I was embarrassed. 191 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,295 Samantha Barks, who was in Les Mis, and is amazing, 192 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:13,015 plays Elsa in Frozen. 193 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,975 Ancl I took my kids to go and see, and they got 194 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,615 to meet Elsa in Frozen, and it was the best, like, 195 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,295 sort of celeb name-drop I've ever succeeded. 196 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,335 Can't talk about Frozen. 197 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,375 Oh, no. 198 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,415 What happened? 199 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,335 Came second in the Oscars to the song. 200 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,895 Oh, wow. 201 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,295 Yeah. 202 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,895 I'm sorry. 203 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,095 My life is filled with Frozen fractals all around. 204 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,135 It's the best lyric. 205 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,175 It's a great lyric. 206 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,135 It's a great song. 207 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,215 Yeah. 208 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,895 And you should listen to that, Bono - let it go. 209 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,855 LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE. 210 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,295 Bono brings us his new memoir. 211 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,335 Here it is, Surrender: 40 Songs, One Story. 212 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,255 It's out on Tuesday, the 1st of November. 213 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,895 And so was this... 214 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,975 like, a lot of people are bringing out books. 215 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,255 Was this a Covid project? 216 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,095 No, it started before that. 217 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,375 I wanted to explain to my, you know, my friends, my family, 218 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,815 especially our fans, but my family, what I've been doing 219 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:21,455 with their life kind of thing. 220 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,095 Because they, in many ways, permission me to be not just 221 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,495 an artist travelling around the world, but as an activist 222 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,535 travelling around the world. 223 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:32,855 So I just, you know, we don't really talk 224 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,695 about that stuff at the table, you know, at the dinner table? 225 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,935 So I wrote it out. 226 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,575 Ancl it's the story of U2 and this the story of 227 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,215 these incredible people. 228 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,375 It turns out the most interesting thing about me, 229 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,535 or the most extraordinary thing about me, are the 230 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:50,855 relationships that I'm in. 231 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,335 Ancl I met most of them, in one week in Mount Temple 232 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,255 Comprehensive School in Dublin. 233 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:04,615 You know, I met the other three members of the band 234 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:11,615 and I started dating Ali the same week. 235 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,535 The story of you and Ali is just amazing, there 236 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:20,935 you are at the beginning and here you still are. 237 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,655 Was Ali cool with all the stories? 238 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:25,295 Like there's a story about one of your very first dates? 239 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,335 Oh, look at you. 240 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,375 Wow. 241 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,535 What are your very first dates when you decided 242 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:30,535 to take it upstairs. 243 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:32,935 Do you know the story I'm talking about? 244 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,295 Yeah, I had a box room most, as you know, most houses in suburban 245 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,495 Dublin were two bedrooms and the box room in the house. 246 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,295 Ancl I was in the box room and I had it sort of minimalist, 247 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,455 sort of enforced minimalist, so all white, no shade 248 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,095 on the the bulb, you know, just the naked bulb. 249 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,735 Ancl I was telling her it was really an art gallery. 250 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,735 And she's 16 or whatever. 251 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,735 Ancl I really didn't want her to meet my father, Bob. 252 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,375 So I was on a half clay, brought her home, brought 253 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:01,535 her up to the bedroom. 254 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:03,255 We were laying there on the bed. 255 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,695 On the bed, I would say. 256 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,575 And, and he gets a half clay, my father, Bob, and he's 257 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,335 like, "Where are you?" 258 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,375 Ancl I'm like... 259 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,255 I said to Ali, she said, "What are we going to do?" 260 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,335 I said, panic. 261 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,935 She said, I'm not going to panic. 262 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,415 I said, get under the bed. 263 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,335 She said, I can't get under the bed. 264 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,375 Get under the bed. 265 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,575 She got under the bed. 266 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:28,655 The da comes in. 267 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:30,735 "So what are you doing home from school?" 268 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,415 Ancl I'm like, it's a half clay. 269 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,455 It's Wednesday. 270 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,895 Why are you home from work? 271 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,895 Oh, yeah. 272 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,655 "Why are you in bed?" 273 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:39,895 On the bed! 274 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,135 Ancl I said, oh, I'm sick. 275 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,255 Oh, yeah. 276 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,935 Ancl for the tough man, he sits down on the bed 277 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,295 and says, so how are you? 278 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,575 What's going on in school? 279 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,735 You OK? 280 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,615 And under the bed... 281 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,495 I was OK. 282 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,895 Ali was living under two Hewsons and she would be 283 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:09,455 for a very long time. 284 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,495 God, I cannot wait for the film of your life. 285 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,695 I want the movie now. 286 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:14,735 There will be some... 287 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:15,735 Eddie Redmayne. 288 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,215 Work on my accent. 289 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,855 There's a great picture in the book. 290 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:20,975 I love this. 291 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,615 This is an early, very early gig. 292 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:23,815 This must be at school. 293 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,855 Is it? 294 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,895 Oh, wow. 295 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,575 Who I love in this, who's absolutely loving this early U2 296 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,415 gig is this woman here, Look at her. 297 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,415 She is living her best life. 298 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,935 Edge has got the hair brushed forward, getting a bit cool. 299 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,575 Yeah, but, you know, everyone starts somewhere. 300 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,535 We've got a very early gig of Taylor. 301 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:44,335 This is you. 302 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,495 Now, you haven't sold out. 303 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,375 Oh, yeah. 304 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:52,015 APPLAUSE. 305 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:52,975 Do you remember this? 306 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,095 Yeah. 307 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,855 This is a big deal for me. 308 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,295 I was 14 and it was an event called the Nashville Rubber Duck Race. 309 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,855 Ancl it is exactly as it sounds. 310 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,735 They would put rubber ducks in the river. 311 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:07,775 Wow. 312 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:08,815 And see who won. 313 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,855 Wow. 314 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,295 Ancl I was the official entertainment. 315 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,695 As you can see, the banner is incredibly high concept. 316 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,135 It just says it like it is, you know, like, this is her name. 317 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,495 Did you play before the race or after the race? 318 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,575 Oh, you know what? 319 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,775 That's a really good question. 320 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,935 I think I blocked a lot of this out. 321 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:26,975 OK, fair enough. 322 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:27,975 I won't dwell. 323 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,055 It might be triggering. 324 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,255 That was the whole crowd. 325 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:31,935 The whole crowd is in that shot. 326 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,375 I can see three people there. 327 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,095 They do look like fans of rubber duck racing. 328 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,055 Now, the thing is, you know, lots of people were in bands 329 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,695 and dreaming of being successful, including Mr Eddie Redmayne. 330 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,655 What was the name of your band? 331 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:47,735 What, what? 332 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,735 You were in a band? 333 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,495 I may have been. 334 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,215 I spent 25 years covering that up. 335 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:04,615 I was in a band when I was about 18, 19. 336 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:06,615 There were three of us in the band. 337 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,575 It was called Blue Tonic. 338 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,015 Incredible. 339 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,215 And what sort of music? 340 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:19,855 Well, I'll tell you, it was sort of... 341 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,335 I quite into sort of emo. 342 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,975 I was going to say rock, but actually it was pop. 343 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,375 And the worst about was the two other guys in the band were great 344 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,255 singers, and I just sounded like a choirboy. 345 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,295 It was disastrous. 346 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,255 Like, every song. 347 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,375 Harmonies? 348 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,415 Lot of harmonies. 349 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,455 Enunciation? 350 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:40,975 Such incredible diction. 351 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,335 That was so good! 352 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,895 Did you do gigS? 353 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,415 I don't think we ever did a gig. 354 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,775 I'm hoping you don't have any footage or any photographs. 355 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,815 Annoyingly, I don't. 356 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:00,975 Then it never existed. 357 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,015 It never happened, it was never here, 'twas but a dream. 358 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,215 And Alex, when they were kids, dreaming of being 359 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,375 singers, you were a kid. 360 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:08,615 But now, what is this? 361 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,495 Because I've got a picture of you in your Arsenal strip here. 362 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,415 Now, how old are you there? 363 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,455 Ten. 364 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,455 Yeah, but I'm at the stage where I want really wanted a fringe, 365 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,695 but I just had afro frizzy hair going on. 366 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,535 But am I right that when you got spotted, you didn't particularly 367 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,735 want to be a footballer? 368 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,815 No. 369 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,895 I used to play in a football cage at the end of my road with the boys, 370 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,015 and then there was a referee in the local area who was like, 371 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,095 "There's a women's team at Arsenal, I really want to take you down." 372 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,015 Ancl I was like, "No, I'm totally fine." 373 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,415 My mum had packed me a Capri Sun for a packed lunch that clay. 374 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,815 I was like, "I'm totally fine in this football cage." 375 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,975 Ancl she was like, "No, we are taking you." 376 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,535 Ancl then I got signed to Arsenal when I was eight. 377 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,615 Yeah, really early on. 378 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,655 APPLAUSE. 379 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,855 What is a football cage? 380 00:15:58,880 --> 00:15:59,895 A football cage? 381 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:00,895 Yeah. 382 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,935 It was just literally... 383 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:02,975 Like, there was concrete. 384 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,455 It was just nothing in there. 385 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,895 But for me, it was everything. 386 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,375 It's where all the dreams started. 387 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,775 Literally, you had cars either side of this football cage, 388 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,135 and if the ball went out, the car would come along and pop it. 389 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,455 Ancl that would be the end of playtime like, "Well, 390 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,535 I'll see you tomorrow." 391 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,215 They should introduce that into professional football. 392 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,255 I'd love that. 393 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,335 Playing against a car. 394 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,935 My friends are so jealous that I'm getting to meet you, 395 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,535 because we just look at you as such an inspiration, like 396 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,255 breaking through in such a male-dominated industry. 397 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,935 You should be so proud of yourself. 398 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,015 Thank you. 399 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,415 But you've clone so much with the US national team, 400 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,255 and you've brought them on stage, and we see that over here 401 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,695 and we're like, "That is it. 402 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,935 How incredible is that?" 403 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,375 So we know you've always been behind supporting other women 404 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,415 and leading the way, so thank you. 405 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,975 APPLAUSE. 406 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,535 In the book, your father, I mean, he's such a big 407 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,535 character in this book. 408 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,415 And you had a, I mean, an interesting 409 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,455 relationship, you know... 410 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,455 Combative. 411 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,935 Yes. 412 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:04,495 I mean, to the point where... 413 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,815 Tell them about when you flew him out to the stadium in in America. 414 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:08,815 Oh, Texas. 415 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,455 Texas. Yeah. 416 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,495 My father, Bob, you know, he's hard to impress. 417 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,455 Ancl I have him... 418 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,895 It's his first time in America, and he's in Texas. 419 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,055 I think it might be Dallas somewhere like that. 420 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,575 Ancl it's a really loud you know, it's just, in Texas, it's like a 747 421 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,295 going over your head, the sound of the crowds, you know. 422 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,015 Ancl I thought, "This will definitely impress him." 423 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:38,015 Ancl I had the lighting person ready to, when I 424 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,055 introduced him, "First time, 425 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,935 not only in the United States, first time in the Lone Star 426 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,975 State of Texas. 427 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:45,975 My father, Bob!" 428 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,015 Light comes on at the mixing desk in this giant arena. 429 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,175 Ancl he raised his fist like this, you know, 430 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,655 and this is part mischief here. 431 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:59,935 But afterwards, he came in, and his eyes were red, an he, 432 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,535 you know, he put his hand out and I thought, "Oh, my God, 433 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,175 my father's going to give me a real... 434 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,215 This could go off. 435 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,975 This is like a compliment." 436 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,255 Ancl I swallowed, and he just said, "You're very professional." 437 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:18,015 Ancl that meant everything to him. 438 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,135 Yeah. 439 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,055 And you knew it was a compliment. 440 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,215 Coming from sort of punk rock, professional, not one 441 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:33,135 of the great adjectives. 442 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,015 But from him, it was THE great adjective. 443 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,135 Yeah. 444 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,015 And the book is full, as you'd imagine, of lots of names. 445 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,695 There's world leaders, lots of rock stars. 446 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,295 A name I wasn't expecting to find here - Frank Sinatra. 447 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,375 Yeah, I mean, I... 448 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,535 Frank Sinatra was just incredible. 449 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,135 But, you know, he's another tough guy. 450 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,535 I'm attracted to tough guys. 451 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,975 He said I was the only man with an earring 452 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,415 he was ever going to like. 453 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,295 And, you know, Edge and I wrote a song for him called 454 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,895 Two Shots Of Happy, One Shot Of Sad, which I actually... 455 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,015 In Palm Springs, we were drinking... 456 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,015 Very un-Italian situation. 457 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,415 We were actually drinking tequila, he was drinking a margarita, 458 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,095 and I sang him this song, which he sadly passed away 459 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:19,335 before he got to record. 460 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:26,255 If I can remember, it went... 461 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,295 # Two shots of happy 462 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,655 # One shot of sad 463 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,135 # You think I'm a good man, but I know I've been bad 464 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,095 # Took me to a place 465 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:53,095 # Now I can't get back 466 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:58,615 # One shot of happy 467 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,135 # Two shots of sad 468 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,615 # Walk with me, baby 469 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,615 # Down a dead end street 470 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,135 # We were mixing the bitter with the sweet 471 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,015 # Don't know what you've got till you can't get it back 472 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,135 # One shot of happy 473 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,615 # Two shots of sad #. 474 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,695 Wowza! 475 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,695 APPLAUSE. 476 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,895 I'm so glad you did. 477 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,575 Well, listen, it's an extraordinary story of not just a rock 478 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,495 star, but a husband, a father, a philanthropist. 479 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,415 It's called Surrender, and it's out on Tuesday. 480 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,415 Bono! 481 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,775 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 482 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:39,615 Now, Swifties everywhere rejoice - Taylor's new album 483 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,575 Midnights is out now. 484 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,655 CHEERING. 485 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,775 Yes, it is! I've got it here. 486 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,455 Now, there are different ones, aren't there? 487 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,575 Different ones. 488 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,135 Yes. 489 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,295 Which one have I got? 490 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,695 You've got the main version. 491 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,095 Yeah, that's the standard version of it. 492 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:59,655 OK. 493 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,615 But there's a mahogany one? 494 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,655 So basically I wanted to deal with... 495 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,495 It's all about sleepless nights and what keeps you up at night 496 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,735 and the hour of midnight. 497 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,055 So if you'll see, the back cover makes up one fourth of a clock. 498 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,455 If you get all four, it makes the whole clock. 499 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,535 Oh! 500 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,695 That is a good way to sell four albums. 501 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,695 That's clever. 502 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,095 She's all four Beatles, isn't she? 503 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:23,695 All in one. 504 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,575 And before we talk about it, let's just listen to a bit 505 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,695 of the first single Anti-Hero. 506 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,375 # I wake up screaming from dreaming 507 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,295 # One clay I'll watch as you're leaving 508 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,175 # Cos you got tired of my scheming 509 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,375 # For the last time 510 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,415 # It's me 511 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,415 #Hi 512 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,735 # I'm the problem, it's me 513 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,615 # At teatime 514 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,215 # Everybody agrees 515 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:53,135 # I'll stare directly at the sun but never in the mirror 516 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:03,695 # It must be exhausting always rooting for the anti-hero...# 517 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:10,735 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 518 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,615 All right, so you mentioned the midnights, these sleepless nights, 519 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,655 13 sleepless nights. 520 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,055 And what sort of time span are the sleepless nights 521 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,215 taken from in your life? 522 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,135 Throughout my life, I think probably after I was a teenager, just... 523 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,935 I think that there's such intensity when you're up late at night. 524 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,055 It's a concept album, 525 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,695 and the main question is, what keeps you up at night? 526 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,815 So it's, you know, you could be up at night because you're reeling 527 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,215 from just having met someone and you're falling for them, 528 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,215 or you could be plotting revenge... 529 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,735 Garlic bread. 530 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,855 Yeah, you could be thinking about the time that 531 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,295 they painted your teeth brown. 532 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,775 You could be thinking about what could have been. 533 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,775 You know, there's just so many possibilities if you give that, 534 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,655 like if you think of that as like a creative writing prompt, 535 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,295 which is what I did, that's where the album came from. 536 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,895 And this album, I mean, amazing reviews, 537 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,775 you broke streaming records, 538 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,335 and a lot of the rave reviews have asked the question, 539 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,615 and it is a question, 540 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,495 that the great songwriting on this album, is part of it due 541 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,375 to the fact that you've been doing this sort of strange work 542 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,535 of re-recording your back catalogue, 543 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:25,695 so it was like you were doing homework on songwriting? 544 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,815 I think so. 545 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,295 I really do. 546 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,215 So I've been rerecording my first six albums, 547 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,775 because there was a thing that happened where I had wanted 548 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,935 to own my work, of my first six albums, 549 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,135 when I changed record labels. 550 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,535 My first six albums were actually sold away from me. 551 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,895 And so I decided, if I if I made them 552 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,735 the first time, I can make them again. 553 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,215 I love it. 554 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,335 I love it! 555 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:54,815 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 556 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,295 Amazing moment. 557 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,855 But is it working? 558 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,775 Like, are radio stations playing the Taylor version? 559 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,815 Yes, they've actually... 560 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,655 That's actually one of the things I was most thankful for was 561 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,815 there's a company of many stations in America called iHeart, 562 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,295 and they have sworn to only play my new versions, 563 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,175 and they've said that they'll switch it out for the old versions 564 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,815 every time I put out a new version of a song, 565 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,495 which is just, like, it's so heart-warming 566 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,935 to me, because this is something that I care about, 567 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,295 but I don't expect other people to care about it. 568 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,975 It's something that's very personal to me, 569 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,135 and it's a lot of work, but it's like... 570 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,855 It's really fun and rewarding for me, 571 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,175 and I can't believe people have actually gotten behind it 572 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,375 the way they have. 573 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,015 And doing this, going back over your old work, has led 574 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,895 to this wonderful thing where All Too Well... 575 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,855 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 576 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,975 I know. 577 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,095 It's now a short film. 578 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:55,215 Yes. 579 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,695 So it was a short song, 580 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,495 then it was a longer song, and now it's a short film. 581 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,935 OK. How do I shorten this? 582 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,655 So basically, All Too Well was a song that came out 583 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,255 originally on an album called Red, which came out in 2012. 584 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,495 I always loved this song. 585 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,495 It was never a single, but the fans really loved this song, 586 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,695 and I had made the mistake of saying in an interview the truth, 587 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,335 which is that it had started out as a ten-minute song 588 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:22,215 with, like, six or seven extra verses, 589 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,095 and we had had to cut it down to the sort of 590 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:28,015 four and a half, five minute length that it ended up. 591 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,855 My fans would not let it go. 592 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,495 They were like, I'd be doing an interview for something else 593 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,935 albums later, and they'd be like, "Where's the ten-minute version? 594 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,575 "Where is it?" 595 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,615 So basically for the record, I was like, 596 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,335 "I am going to put out the ten-minute version. 597 00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:46,495 "I'm just going to show them what it was." 598 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,535 And you know what? 599 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,895 I really want to make... 600 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,775 I want to tell a story that goes along with it visually 601 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,255 that's more than a music video. 602 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,175 I'd been directing my music videos for a while at this point, 603 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,895 and writing and directing them was really fun for me. 604 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:08,695 I just love it. 605 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,655 It's a very natural extension of my storytelling. 606 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,055 So I thought, "I want to make a short film 607 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,935 and really do this song justice and also create a short film 608 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,935 that stands on its own," 609 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,575 so I was very lucky to be able to cast Sadie Sink and Dylan O'Brien 610 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,975 to be these two young lovers. 611 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,895 Ancl I'm really, really, really proud of it. 612 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,815 I just feel very happy. 613 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,815 You should be. 614 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,255 Obviously it contains the whole song, 615 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,975 but also dramatic scenes like this one. 616 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:43,135 You didn't even look at me once! 617 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,015 What are you talking about? 618 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,455 I'm catching up with my friends! 619 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,135 Trust me, they were enthralled by you. 620 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,135 Of course, of course. 621 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,855 You're making the entire night about you! 622 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,895 Look at me. 623 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,935 Holy shit. Holy shit. 624 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,975 I can't, I can't. 625 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,015 It's so... 626 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,055 It's fucking selfish. 627 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,095 It's crazy. 628 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,295 Oh, so I'm selfish now? 629 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,495 Yes, you're acting selfish, absolutely. 630 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,935 Right now that's exactly what's happening. 631 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,615 Don't fucking look at me like that. 632 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,135 That's so fucked up. 633 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,855 Ooh! 634 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,895 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 635 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,335 Yeah, they're unreal. 636 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:17,255 Did you let the actors improvise those scenes 637 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,855 or were you writing that dialogue? 638 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,415 So that was scripted out, 639 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,215 "OK, let's do it like it's scripted." 640 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,455 But then like, let's do, like, a freedom take 641 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,095 where you get to do whatever, however you would interpret this 642 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,215 and what you would add to it. That was... 643 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,135 I can't take full credit for that writing. 644 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,375 And you clearly love this. 645 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,975 Is this going to be a new string to your bow? 646 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,415 That would be such an hon our. 647 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,335 I would do anything to get to keep learning and keep growing 648 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:52,695 in that world. 649 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,335 She takes up singing, she's going to take over the world. 650 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:56,375 So that is like... 651 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,775 What you just said there is basically an actor's dream, 652 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,695 which is you've delivered a scene as scripted, 653 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,055 and then when the director has faith in you enough 654 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,175 to go now one for, like, go play with it. 655 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,495 It's kind of, it's the dream way of being directed. 656 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,575 So... 657 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,615 Wow. 658 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,095 ...please cast me. 659 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,295 Well, listen, you can watch Taylor's short film All Too Well on YouTube. 660 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,935 And once again, the new album, Midnights, 661 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,215 that is out now. 662 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:25,175 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 663 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,335 More good news, ladies and gentlemen - Eddie Redmayne is in a film! 664 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:33,375 Yes! 665 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,175 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 666 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,055 The Good Nurse is out now on Netflix, 667 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,215 where it's currently number one in over 60 countries. 668 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,255 There you go. 669 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,495 So people are liking it. 670 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,855 Nice! 671 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,215 This is you and our good friend, Jessica Chastain. 672 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,335 And this is a true story. 673 00:28:54,400 --> 00:29:00,815 It's a true story about a man called Charlie Cullen, who may be the most 674 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,855 prolific serial killer in American history. 675 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,295 But more importantly, it's about the extraordinary woman, 676 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,215 woman called Amy Loughran, played by Jessica Chastain, 677 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,735 who was an amazing nurse, a lovely, gentle woman who was incredibly... 678 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,695 Sort of adored this man, and then realised 679 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,695 that he was doing horrific things. 680 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,335 And it was through her brilliance and sort of empathy, really, 681 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:27,415 that she was able to stop him. 682 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,095 But it's also the story, though, of how he got away 683 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,255 with it for so long. 684 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,295 Yeah. 685 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,815 Which is... 686 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,255 This guy was at nine different hospitals, over ten years, 687 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,655 killing people and was moved on from hospital to hospital, 688 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,495 even though they may have gleaned that he was doing it, principally 689 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,215 because no one wanted to accept responsibility. 690 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,815 So they were protecting their bottom line. 691 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,295 So in some ways it's sort of an amazing advertisement 692 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:56,215 for the NHS, because this is an America, by the way. 693 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,255 And I'll tell you what, before we talk about it some more, 694 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,295 let's watch a clip. 695 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,495 This is you as Charlie. 696 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,135 Jessica Chastain is hoping to get a confession out of you. 697 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,295 You know, I don't want to talk about Park field. 698 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,095 It's... 699 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,655 Why not? 700 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,295 Is it because... 701 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,975 ...what they're saying is true? 702 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,375 You know, I wouldn't care if you did those things. 703 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,575 I mean, I could understand. 704 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,135 You could explain. 705 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,575 BANG 706 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,175 LAUGHTER 707 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,655 Very good. 708 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,815 All right. 709 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,935 All right. 710 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,015 No-one spilled a drink. 711 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,535 We're all good.. 712 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,615 That's a bit of a jump scare. 713 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,255 No, I knew it was coming, and even I was, like.. 714 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,495 Is it true that Jessica Chastain did turn out 715 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,295 to be the good nurse in that you had to learn skills? 716 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,415 Oh, yeah. 717 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,375 Yeah. 718 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,095 So we were sent to nurse school. 719 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,135 Oh, wow. 720 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,615 Taylor loves a school! 721 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,735 It's so hard. 722 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,135 They have such a hard job. 723 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,575 No, it's so amazing. 724 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,495 It's like a massive thing. 725 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,095 I mean, obviously, I had huge respect for nurses, 726 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,215 but like to be a nurse, you have to be great at science, 727 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,615 great at maths, you have to physically be incredibly strong, 728 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,415 like moving bodies. 729 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:50,895 And then you also have to be this emotional conduit between, you know, 730 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,975 doctors and families at the most vulnerable. 731 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,175 Anyway, I'm a useless nurse. 732 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,775 I went to nurse school, totally failed, managed 733 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,735 to like, on the... 734 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,135 You know, we had a nurse watching every take. 735 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,335 And after each take you'd kind of go to slightly bypass the director 736 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,175 to go to the nurse to check you did it all right. 737 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,055 But in the first take, I was trying to sort of put 738 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,095 a needle into something. 739 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,215 And literally the first take of the entire film, I managed to sort 740 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,935 of pin it straight through my thumb. 741 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,815 Useless nurse, never call me in a crisis. 742 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,815 But very good actor. 743 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,895 A very good actor. 744 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,735 And I don't want to I don't want to trigger Bono here. 745 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,055 But you have won an Oscar. 746 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,215 I don't want to upset Bono in any way, but you have won 747 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,375 an Oscar. 748 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,455 So you win an Oscar. 749 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,375 So you must be top of the world. 750 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,495 You get a phone call the very next day? 751 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,455 Yes. 752 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,735 So, basically, just before the Oscars, I was getting married 753 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,495 and I wasn't working. 754 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,975 Sol did a:... 755 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,375 Which makes like makes it sound like I'm excusing myself. 756 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,255 I basically got cast in Thomas the Tank Engine, straight to DVD, 757 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,695 one-off film playing Ryan the Engine. 758 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,735 Oh, Ryan. 759 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,615 You know, famous Ryan. 760 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,815 He's the voice of that. 761 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,335 The voice of that guy. 762 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,015 And anyway, it was wonderful and it was great. 763 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,695 And then the day after the Oscars, I got a call 764 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,335 from my agent saying they're releasing Thomas 765 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,535 the Tank Engine today. 766 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,615 And they wondered if they could put a sticker on, saying, you know, 767 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,775 starring Academy Award Winner Eddie 768 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,095 Redmayne. 769 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,495 And I remember The Sun writing a particularly unkind article 770 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,575 about how I was following up my Oscar winning. 771 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,215 Unfair! 772 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,615 A reminder, Eddie's new film, The Good Nurse, 773 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,975 is streaming now on Netflix. 774 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,495 And so much to talk about tonight. 775 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,535 Bcause Alex Scott has written her autobiography, 776 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,655 I've got it here, How (Not) to Be Strong. 777 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,215 And that is out now. 778 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,375 And Alex, you've talked, in the book you reference 779 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,535 it, that you've been asked to write your story 780 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,135 before and you said no? 781 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,295 Why no, why yes now, are you glad you waited? 782 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,695 I'm so glad I waited. 783 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:12,455 I think I've had so many new chapters, exciting chapters 784 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,295 in my life, and I've been on a personal journey of growth 785 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,975 that has allowed me to actually detail with raw honesty everything 786 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,735 that I've been through in my life. 787 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,975 Ancl I suppose listening to you guys as well, 788 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,095 the story of your music, I suppose for me that was my way 789 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:33,575 of telling my story in my own way through that book. 790 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,415 Ancl I don't know, I think looking back, that kid who started 791 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,615 in the football cage, there's no way that I would have ever thought 792 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,215 that I'd be able to sit and write my own book. 793 00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:46,935 One, Being dyslexic, I struggled at school 794 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,135 anyway, so to actually sit 795 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,775 there and have that there is, for me, one of my 796 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,815 proudest achievements. 797 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,455 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 798 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,455 You also talk about, I mean, a bit like, 799 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,655 I was saying to Bono, you know, sharing memories. 800 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,535 You know, it's your story, but you're telling bits of your life 801 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,215 and not all of it is great. 802 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:09,055 And your mum, your mum must be thrilled that you have told 803 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,095 that you have told her story? 804 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,695 Yeah, for me, I think a big thing was I wanted to write the book 805 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,775 to finally set my mum free and for her to start living. 806 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,095 Ancl I think it was hard for her actually reading 807 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,015 it because a lot of everything that I've gone through was trying 808 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,895 to protect her and not tell her everything if I was struggling. 809 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,535 So for her to read some of the stories was eye 810 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,535 opening for her. 811 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,455 But I feel it's so magical that we're finally in the space 812 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,575 now that we can continue this next chapter together. 813 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,575 Yeah. 814 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,855 I mean, I can imagine 815 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,215 she must be so proud of you and so thrilled. 816 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:42,615 Yeah. 817 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,015 I straightaway get emotional when I think about my mum 818 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,415 because all I ever want for her is to be happy and be free. 819 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,415 So that's why I've clone it. 820 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,895 Yeah. 821 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,015 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 822 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,095 We must mention the end of the book. 823 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,975 The end of the book. 824 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,655 It ends with the triumph of the Lionesses at the Euros. 825 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,655 Oh, yeah. 826 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,135 And, you know, there you are... 827 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,175 APPLAUSE. 828 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,215 You know, like, you must be thrilled, 829 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:18,735 but a little bit of jealousy. 830 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,095 And how has that changed the game entirely now? 831 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,255 Huge. 832 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,375 It was like the 99ers in America when they won the World Cup 833 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,415 at the Rose Bowl. 834 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,575 That changed absolutely everything for them and the momentum 835 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,495 we have seen off the back of that. 836 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,495 You say jealousy. 837 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,695 Actually, I felt like I was that big sister. 838 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,135 I was crying like a baby. 839 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,535 I remember Gabby Logan trying to ask me a question. 840 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,215 I was like, "I can't speak, Gabby," I was so emotional 841 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:45,575 in that moment, but I had a final chapter and it was a letter 842 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,975 to my mum was the final chapter in the book. 843 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,095 Ancl as soon as that happened, I was like, 844 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,375 "Sorry, Mum, there's another chapter now!" 845 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,775 And, Alex, football fans, you know, 846 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,015 we know they are passionate. 847 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,535 They are. 848 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,215 But sometimes don't have the best reputation. 849 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:03,455 Are fans of women's football, are they better behaved? 850 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,455 I would say so. 851 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,335 I feel blessed in that sense. 852 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,055 I think for me, they've followed my journey from that ten-year-old 853 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,975 with the frizzy fringe, afro fringe, going on, 854 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,615 to that football career and into broadcast then. 855 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,535 So I feel they've followed my whole story 856 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,575 and actually been on that journey with me. 857 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,455 So when they stopped me in the street, 858 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,055 I feel their passion, 859 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,495 and I'm just so thankful that they're still supporting me, 860 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,535 really. 861 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,015 Yeah. 862 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,455 Taylor, we talked about the Swifties and how much they love you, 863 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,735 and fans sometimes find unlikely things. 864 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,575 I think in Canada by accident, a track from 1989 was released, 865 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,335 but it wasn't a real track. 866 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,855 It was eight seconds of static. 867 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,375 Yes. 868 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,335 This happened maybe seven or eight years ago. 869 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,975 Yeah. 870 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,855 And what happened to that track that was eight seconds of static? 871 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,695 It went number one. 872 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,775 LAUGHTER. 873 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,375 I don't know how, but maybe it's some metaphor or some symbolism 874 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,455 about the sounds of silence, and having having a moment of quiet. 875 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,175 I love someone trying to present a chart show in Canada, 876 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,775 and going, "And now, at number one..." 877 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,895 It was ridiculous. 878 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,535 I mean, I don't even... 879 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,175 I don't know how, I don't know why, I'm just lucky 880 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,655 and have them doing stuff like that for me. 881 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,455 But now, Eddie, now, your fans have a special name, don't they? 882 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,735 Errn, they... 883 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,935 Some people call themselves Redmayniacs. 884 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,935 Redheads. 885 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,975 Yes. 886 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,975 Yeah. 887 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,775 I have lovely fans, 888 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,415 but there was a thing recently at a Fantastic Beasts premiere, 889 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,015 and I was walking to the premiere, 890 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,775 and this this lady came up to me and she said, "Draw on my arm." 891 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,855 And I said, "OK. Where...?" 892 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,775 And she shoved a pen in my hand. 893 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,215 She was like, "Draw a fantastic beast on my arm." 894 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:55,095 You know where this is going. 895 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,615 There's a character of fantastic beasts 896 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,215 called Pickett, who's a little stick insect. 897 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,975 And so I did what was basically a, you know, a stick man whilst whilst 898 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,455 moving and then thought nothing of it. 899 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,895 And then the next day it went online that she had had that tattooed 900 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,255 onto her arm, which, had I known, I would have stopped for a minute 901 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,375 to make sure my little twig man was slightly 902 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,615 better than a stick man. 903 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,535 That was a low point. 904 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,575 And talking of fans in the in the book, Bono, one 905 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,495 of the people you meet is the Pope. 906 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,095 The Pope was jealous of you, Bono? 907 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,255 I wouldn't have put it like that. 908 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,975 If you mean he coveted my sunglasses, 909 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,055 is that what you're saying? 910 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,015 Well, no, because he was checking you out. 911 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,375 Well, not in that way. 912 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,615 We were there. 913 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,015 According to the World Bank, an extra 54 million kids went 914 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,135 to school in the poorest countries in the world because of the Drop 915 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,255 the Debt campaign. 916 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,655 A lot of it led from these United Kingdom here, 917 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,615 but around the world. 918 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,655 Ancl that's what we were there with me, Bob Geldof, Quincy Jones, 919 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,335 Jeffrey Sachs, a bunch of us and this very frail man. 920 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,975 Ancl I notice him looking at me and I thought, like, 921 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,855 we're all narcissists, you know, navel gazers. 922 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,175 Ancl I moved and his eyes kept going with me. 923 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,695 I said, that's a bit mad. 924 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,615 Maybe it's the glasses. 925 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,695 So I took them off because I had these kind of blue shades. 926 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,535 Ancl then he started looking at them in my hand. 927 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,375 So when I went to His Holiness John Paul, I said, do 928 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,895 you want my glasses? 929 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,295 Ancl when I went up to meet him he said, 930 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,415 yes, and he put them on. 931 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,615 And he put them on. 932 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,895 I'm like, this is unbelievable. 933 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,335 Swapped them for some rosary beads. 934 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,495 Put them on. 935 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,735 Ancl I'm thinking this is Drop the Debt, the jubilee 2000 campaign 936 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,175 on every newspaper, we've made it. 937 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,815 You know, this is just one of those photographs, and hear 938 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,055 a voice in the background. 939 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,695 Ancl it goes, you will never see that photograph - ever! 940 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:01,735 But guess what? 941 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,775 The photograph... 942 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,775 Oh, wow. 943 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,655 It exists. 944 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,255 So this is the picture of the Pope wearing Bono's sunglasses. 945 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,415 I love it. 946 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,495 Yeah, he's loving it. 947 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,015 He's loving it. 948 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,215 Alex, the next big tournament, World Cup in Qatar. 949 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:25,855 You are part of the commentary team? 950 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,575 Yes. 951 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,175 I fly out in a couple of weeks, so I'm going to be over there 952 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,215 for a month. 953 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,255 It's super exciting. 954 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,455 Ancl what's the vibe like? 955 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,095 I mean, are you worried about it or do you think 956 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,455 it's going to change that country for good? 957 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,935 What's your take on it? 958 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,255 To be honest, I still don't know at the moment my kind of take 959 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,975 on it, because obviously that's where things 960 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,015 are bigger than football. 961 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,575 Ancl it's how can I use my platform in that moment to spread a message, 962 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,495 make people aware and not just sit there and think everything's alright 963 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,575 when it isn't. 964 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,975 Ancl I know my role and the importance of that. 965 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,335 Yeah, it's going to be a tricky one to do. 966 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,655 Yeah. 967 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,975 And very quickly, we must mention you are doing Children 968 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,095 in Need again 969 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,095 next month? 970 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,135 Yes, next month. 971 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,095 You're not doing it. 972 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,895 I remember last year, doing it with you. 973 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,935 I know. 974 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,615 I can't be there this year, but good luck with that. 975 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,655 Thank you. 976 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,815 Like, "You're on your own, you go do it!" 977 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,415 I'll think of a reason soon. 978 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,895 Good luck with that. 979 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,015 And Alex's book, How (Not) To Be Strong is available now. 980 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,495 So it is time for music. 981 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,895 This critically acclaimed singer is taking the world by storm 982 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,775 with a debut album, Black Acid Soul Here, 983 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,495 performing her latest single, Feel It Comin'. 984 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,415 It is Lady Blackbird! 985 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,335 # Like in every great fable 986 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,375 # There's a moment when we all must learn to crawl 987 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,295 # And when life has turned the table 988 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,855 # Before we rise we know we all must take the fall 989 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,655 # And this moment ain't no different 990 00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:25,815 # Times are changing like the clock upon the wall 991 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,655 # Your wealth can come from 992 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,935 #just a dime 993 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,975 # We ain't broke 994 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,335 # I feel it comin', don't we all 995 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,335 # I feel it comin' 996 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:40,615 # Like the dawning of the day 997 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:41,935 # Straight through to midnight 998 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,815 # While we dance the night away 999 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,695 # A great big expression, happy on my face 1000 00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:50,455 # I feel it comin' like the dawning of the 1001 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,095 # Mama told me 'bout a baby 1002 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,255 # Baby grew up in another kind of world 1003 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:05,095 # Always felt like such a lady 1004 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,975 # Mama said son you ain't born to be a girl 1005 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,655 # And this moment ain't no different 1006 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,375 # Times are changing like the clock upon the wall 1007 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,615 # The world is changin' all the time 1008 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,655 # It ain't broke 1009 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,375 # I feel it comin' 1010 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,975 # Don't we all 1011 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,215 # I feel it comin' 1012 00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:31,095 # Like the dawning of the day 1013 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,255 # Straight through to midnight 1014 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,375 # While we dance the night away 1015 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,495 # A great big expression, happy on my face 1016 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,135 # I feel it comin' like the dawning of the day 1017 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,295 # Who ah 1018 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,375 # The beat goes who ah 1019 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,415 # who ah who ah 1020 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,735 # The beat goes who ah 1021 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,015 , who ah 1022 00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:01,335 # The beat goes all night long 1023 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,615 # Remember the rain 1024 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,655 # Remember the sun 1025 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,055 # Remember the seasons winters almost done 1026 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,295 # I feel it comin' 1027 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,215 # Like the dawning of the day 1028 00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:24,495 # Straight through to midnight 1029 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,295 # While we dance the night away 1030 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,575 # A great big expression, happy on my face 1031 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:35,655 # I feel it comin' like the dawning of the day 1032 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:43,295 # I feel it comin' like the dawning of the day 1033 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,055 # Straight through to midnight 1034 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,735 # While we dance the night away 1035 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,895 # A great big expression, happy on my face 1036 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,455 # I feel it comin' like the dawning of the day 1037 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,735 # Who ah 1038 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,935 # The beat goes who ah 1039 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:03,455 # who ah who ah 1040 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,695 # The beat goes who ah 1041 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:11,655 , who ah 1042 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:22,295 Lady Blackbird, everybody! 1043 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:29,215 Brilliant job. 1044 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,215 Come on over. 1045 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:36,775 They love you. 1046 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,535 How great was that? 1047 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,175 Come meet the rest of the group. 1048 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:47,455 Taylor, Bono, Eddie 1049 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,535 Wow. 1050 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,575 So good. 1051 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:52,615 Incredible. 1052 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,735 Alex, I would urge you to fight the temptation 1053 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,935 to put one in the back of the net. 1054 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,015 Top corner! 1055 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,935 That was so gorgeous. 1056 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,495 Thank you. 1057 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,535 The voice. 1058 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,375 The voice, voice. 1059 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,255 And that single is from the deluxe album of Black Acid Soul. 1060 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,655 The Deluxe came out today. 1061 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,375 Is that right? 1062 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,415 That's right. 1063 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,455 Today. 1064 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,295 Today! 1065 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,455 Ancl you guys are all incredible, I'm so happy right now. 1066 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,735 I can't even believe it. 1067 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,895 I'm trying to be so cool, and I'm failing. 1068 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,495 I'm failing so bad. 1069 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,655 The fan club over here. 1070 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,375 You're amazing. 1071 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:41,415 I know that people watching that performance 1072 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,095 will want to go and see you. 1073 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,295 And you are touring here? 1074 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,615 We start the tour Saturday. 1075 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,695 We're in the Netherlands, and we hit the Netherlands. 1076 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,855 We hit Spain, we hit Rome, Germany, Paris, and then we end up... 1077 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:55,935 No Ireland? 1078 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,415 I know! 1079 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,295 In fairness, Bono, we haven't heard about the UK yet. 1080 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,175 If Bono wants Ireland, we're going to Ireland. 1081 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:08,375 If Bono wants Mars, we're going to Mars. 1082 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,575 We end here, we end here. 1083 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,175 Ancl we play Manchester, we play the Barbican, Barking 1084 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,575 and we end on Jo Whitey Radio. 1085 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,615 Yeah, Google Lady Blackbird. 1086 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:20,655 You'll find it. 1087 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,695 Oh, I'm so nervous. 1088 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:23,175 Don't trust me on the dates. 1089 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,015 No, no. 1090 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,655 But people would be delighted to know you're performing new music 1091 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,535 and you're out there in the world. 1092 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,735 I have to ask you, Taylor Swift, when can 1093 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,375 we expect to see you on a... 1094 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,415 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 1095 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,535 I'm going to say that first you should purchase tickets to go see 1096 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,575 Lady Blackbird. 1097 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,615 But soon. 1098 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,615 This year? 1099 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,975 No, next year. 1100 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,295 I mean, it's soon-ish. 1101 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,575 |t's going to happen. 1102 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,615 We'll do it. 1103 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:59,135 It's going to be great. 1104 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,095 Whatever. 1105 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,175 But Bono, U2, 1106 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:09,895 You're doing new music, aren't you? 1107 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,535 Yeah, we have a sort of... 1108 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,895 We have an album nearly finished called Songs Of Ascent. 1109 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,615 It's beautiful, but it's just not right 1110 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,775 for the moment we're in. 1111 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,975 We want to make a really unreasonable guitar record. 1112 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,095 A real, proper rock and roll, you know, proper... 1113 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,135 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 1114 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,135 So we're starting again. 1115 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,255 All right. 1116 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,895 Well, listen, we look forward to that. 1117 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,335 Lady Blackbird, thank you so much for that beautiful performance. 1118 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,015 Congratulations on the album Black Acid Soul. 1119 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,415 And good luck with the tour. 1120 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,655 Lady Blackbird, everybody! 1121 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,495 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 1122 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,135 Sadly, no time for Red Chairs tonight, 1123 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,055 so it just remains for me to say a huge thank you 1124 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,455 to all of my guests tonight. 1125 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,215 Lady Blackbird! 1126 00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:50,615 Alex Scott! 1127 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,775 Eddie Redmayne! 1128 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,895 Taylor Swift! 1129 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,375 And Bono! 1130 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,415 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE. 1131 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,535 Join me next week with UK rapper Loyle Carner and comedian and writer 1132 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,615 Richard Ayoade, two of the hottest young actors around, 1133 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,895 Emma Corrin and Paul Mescal, 1134 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,335 and from the new Black Panther movie Wakanda Forever, 1135 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,055 we've got Winston Duke and Michaela Cole. 1136 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,335 I'll see you then. 1137 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,415 Goodnight, everybody, bye-bye! 1138 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,815 CH EERING AND APPLAUSE.