Hello, I'm George Takei.
You know, people are always asking me about playing Sulu in Star Trek.
Oh, George, hold that starter again.
You are needed backstage.
Oh, no problem.
Beam us up.
Oh!
Impressive, right?
He's still got it.
Let's start the show!
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.
Oh!
I ran, I ran.
Hello, good evening.
Also welcome to the show.
We've got a great show for you tonight.
I tell you, I couldn't be more thrilled and fascinated
if I was Prince William looking at a basketball.
Has he never seen one before?
It's like his godmother talking to a black person.
APPLAUSE.
That's Kate and Wills on their visit to Boston this week.
Some locals were pleased to see Wills at a basketball game,
though he wasn't the royal they most wanted to see at a court in America.
LAUGHTER.
The World Cup continues.
CHEERING.
Yes, and commiserations to Wales.
Audience: Aw!
But congratulations to England who are through to the next round, yeah.
Did you see that one brave English fan watching the game in Cardiff?
Look at that.
If you want to pay your respects, her funeral is on Wednesday.
LAUGHTER.
England's next game is against Senegal.
Could be interesting, a bankrupt third World country
with a corrupt government against the African champions.
CHEERING.
Let's get some guests on.
Later we'll have music from Swedish pop sensation First Aid Kit.
I love them.
But first it wouldn't be Christmas without a new cookbook from this
celebrity chef and campaigner, it's the £I wonder, Jamie Oliver.
Hello, sir.
Give me some hugging.
She's the queen of Strictly, author and now presenter
of the reality game show The Traitors.
It's Claudia Winkleman.
Dazzling, dazzling.
Have a seat, you.
This man has lived long and prospered as Sulu in the classic
sci-fi hit Star Trek.
Now he is bringing his new musical, Allegiance, to the West End stage.
It is none other than George Takei, everybody.
George Takei, lovely to see you.
Thank you for your support.
Sit.
George Takei, everyone.
And she is the Oscar-nominated star of The English Patient,
Four Weddings And A Funeral, and Hour.
Now returning to our TV screens in the spy thriller Slow Courses,
it's Kristin Scott Thomas.
Hello.
Have a seat, you.
Very good.
And lovely to see you all.
So, welcome back, welcome back, first time, welcome to George.
Hello.
And, Kristin, is your first time on the sofa I think.
I think so because last time we were in funny
little kind of chairs.
Pods.
Now, sofa back.
And have we dragged you over from France to be here?
No.
OK.
But tomorrow morning at the crack of dawn I'm going to Belgium.
Oh, OK.
Yes, I like to keep moving.
Always keep moving.
But you don't live in Belgium?
No, I live in London.
OK.
Wow, she is like a spy.
That's what spies do.
I cannot tell you where I live.
And George Takei, Star Trek legend.
CHEERING.
Live long and prosper.
But the weird thing is you have a catchphrase and it's not that.
Your catchphrase isn't even from Star Trek.
No, it's from a shock jock named Howard Stern.
Yeah, yeah.
He is a clear friend and he has been a partner of ours, my husband Brad,
in talking up equality for LGBT people.
But I had never met him when I was first invited to do a show.
I was doing a play in New York and when you are doing
the play the publicist gives you your assignment, so I went
to that address on Madison Avenue, they asked me to wait on a coach
to wait on a couch sort of like this, and they
had the radio on.
I was looking through magazines and I thought, "That show
that they have on is disgusting, it's a vile conversation."
So I said to the person sitting next to me waiting,
"Why can't we have good music here?
This is terrible."
Ancl she said, "That's the show we are waiting to go on."
Ancl then, right on cue, the receptionist came,
ushered me into the studio, I walked in and there
is this tall, wild haired horn-rimmed glass guy.
Ancl I said, "Good morning."
Ancl he says, "You have a deep voice, a voice like that must
have a big dong below."
LAUGHTER.
I asked, "Are we on the air?"
Ancl he said, "Yep."
Ancl I said, "Oh, my."
Ancl he had it on tape and so whether I'm there on the show
or not when someone says something or do something outrageous
or not when someone says something or does something outrageous
he presses a button and my voice comes on,
"Oh my."
Ancl it has become my signature.
I'm sure there were plenty of occasions to say oh my
in Blackpool a couple of weeks ago, Claudia?
Yes, there is that.
I can't believe you brought up the B word.
I do a dancing thing and we all go to Blackpool and I'm
just trying to explain.
I wouldn't.
OK.
Ancl we love going to Blackpool because it is the world's greatest
ballroom, it is called the Tower ballroom.
We all go up there, there is gazillions of us,
we do the show and then we get pickled.
Pickled?
Yes.
Hammered.
I thought that was a sour...
We might also do that.
I'll be honest, we can't remember a lot of it
but we have a brilliant time.
We end up doing the conga, we are just so excited
to be in Blackpool.
And of course Strictly this weekend is mad because it has
already been on tonight.
Yes, I apologise.
Ancl then the results are tomorrow, I think.
I don't even know.
I just turn up.
I go, OK, I'm here with sandwiches.
OK, very good.
And Jamie Oliver is here.
I can't believe this, this has got to be your 26th cookbook.
I believe so.
That's amazing.
It's been a long time.
That's amazing.
And you limit yourself now not just in recipes,
but apparently there are words you won't use in recipes.
Oh, yes.
Well because when I write books I am dyslexic so I have quite
a relationship with the books and howl put them together
and numbers and words.
And then there were certain words that didn't quite work
in the culinary situation.
So I basically banned words and then I made the whole
editorial team agree and sign are never, ever.
Some of them I understand because there is a list
of the banned words.
Now, moist, I know what you mean, but some recipes should be moist.
They all have reason.
Do you ever need crevice?
Well, yeah, because if you are stuffing the shoulder of lamb
and you really want to get it into the crevice you say crevice,
but crevice and dinner doesn't really work,
as does rimming.
Rimming is really important in pastry work because you have
to give it a good rimming to get the pastry...
We are in Blackpool again.
Oh. m'!-
Bad words.
OK, we start tonight with Kristin Scott Thomas.
She returns in season two of Slow Horses.
It starts tonight with new episodes every Friday on Apple TV plus.
I am so looking forward to this, I was gushing to beforehand,
I am a big fan of the show.
But if people haven't seen the first season,
what have they missed, what do they need to know
going into season two?
Well...
Gary Old man plays a sort of spy who's clone unspeakable things
and has been relegated to a distant department which is still part
of all the service, but they kind of put him
in a cupboard, if you like.
Ancl anyone who does anything silly like leave a top-secret file
on the train, or sleep with an Ambassador's wife,
or anything like that, that is the sort of sin bin,
it is the sort of underbelly of spying.
Of course, I don't belong there.
No.
I am at Regent's Park which is where the main thing
happens and I am sort of keeping an eye on them, make sure they don't
mess anything up again because they are always interfering
with my plans.
I tell you what, let's have a clip of what to expect from season two.
I do not need the slow horses digging around the past.
This feels too suspicious.
What does that actually mean?
There is more to it.
Stand back.
There has been an alert.
There is a traitor right at the top.
Ancl he has unfinished business.
# London calling to the far-away towns...#.
There is a plane packed with explosives.
Thousands of people, they are going to die.
Sometimes the only way to work out why a trap has been
set is to walk into it.
APPLAUSE.
It's also got fantastic music, the theme tune is fantastic.
Fantastic.
You don't do much TV, was Fleabag the last bit
of television you did?
Yes, I think it was.
Yes, I did do quite a bit of television in my youth,
I haven't clone very much recently and Slow Horses was irresistible.
But Fleabag was also irresistible.
I mean, I had been longing for that woman to call me and asked me to do
something and she did.
And it was only one episode but it made quite the impact.
Yes, it did.
It did, yes, I'm a reference.
Are you a reference?
YES, a menopause reference.
Anyway, let's celebrate that.
But obviously you were in the episode of Fleabag and you did
TV when you were young, but this I think is a kind of lead
actor, this is your first foray into long form television?
Yes.
So what is that like coming from film to this?
Well, it's very, I find it quite challenging because I am
not in it all the time, so it's a bit like being a new girl
every three weeks, you get to be a new girl again.
Ancl you have to start again with everything.
Sol go in and then one clay it's goodbye and just as you are getting
into a rhythm you are whipped away and they have forgotten
all about you and then you come back sort of six weeks later
and it's start again.
So it's quite tricky and you have to remember so many different
plotlines in your head, which is difficult for me.
And also I suppose it is trying to pace your
performance over six hours.
Ancl also you are shooting episode seven, but then
because you are in the same place you have got to shoot episode one
but not necessarily in that order, in a different order.
Ancl then you will do half of one and half of another
and it is completely mudleling.
Because, George, I mean Star Trek, you were in it
over a span of 30 years.
What is it like playing one character for that long?
Well, it is science fiction, so unlike serious television
where you play the same character week after week in one
episode we might have been attacked by a vibration that
destroys our inhibition and we start acting out
what we were trying to hide, all of us.
Ancl so we get to play a whole totally different character.
OK, and,Jamie, I know you are a big star Wars fan.
Star Trek?
I loved it.
Oh, did you?
Oh, good.
No, I loved it to bits.
I used to watch it all the time as a kid.
It was exciting.
But the merch wasn't quite up there with Star Wars.
I was into the merch, all the figures and stuff like that.
But, no, lots of memories as a kid.
I've eaten at your restaurants too. Have you?
Oh, and you are Italian. Thank you.
I love Italian food.
Bless you, well, we'll get you some more, come round.
Are you going to be here for a while?
I am, until April.
I'll cook for you, how about that?
That will be a deal. Will be there.
And, George, the conventions, are you going to a Star Trek
convention this weekend?
The clay after tomorrow. Yes, in Telford.
They call it the Welsh convention but apparently
there is a reconstruction happening at the venue in Wales
so they brought it over the border to Telford and so,
Star Trek fans, I'll see you.
Live Long and prosper.
And you go to loads of these conventions.
I do quite a few of them, yes.
All over the world.
Brazil, Germany, Italy, Japan.
What happens there?
We talk about Star Trek.
But like in a group?
We have questions and answers and we have autograph signing,
and we have the photos that we pose together, like this.
Of course.
LAUGHTER
And now, Kristin, I feel like a fool, because it wasn't
until Season One came out that I'd heard about the books.
Yep.
The Slow Horses books, which people love.
They love them.
I'd never heard of them because it's not really my thing.
But anyway, I was told, "You've got to read these books."
But they're a stack of books this big, so I started
to listen to the audiobooks.
But of course, that's a disaster, because what happens?
You know, it could be 20 seconds, it could be two
hours, you have no idea, but suddenly, you're asleep.
LAUGHTER
So I then had to, you know, really apply myself and read these
books, which are marvellous.
Mick Herron, fantastic.
So are there loads of these books?
So there's going to be more? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There will be more Slow Horses? Perhaps.
I think it's been... I think, hasn't it?
Has it been announced? It has.
No, I'm pretty sure that's out in the public world.
Is it?
Yeah, unless you die in this season and no-one told you.
No...
LAUGHTER
No, no, no.
I don't die.
I know that.
You're in it.
I'm not sure how many there are, or for how long it goes on for.
OK.
I thought I read somewhere that they've commissioned
two more seasons.
Have I made that up?
Er, no.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah, let's just throw it out into the ether!
Yeah, let's manifest it, let's make it true.
It's a terrific show.
Just a reminder that Slow Horses continues on Apple TV Plus.
Very good.
OK.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Yeah.
We move on to Claudia Winkleman's latest.
This is great.
It's a reality psychological game show called The Traitors.
It's stripped Tuesday to Thursday on BBC1.
If you haven't seen it yet, you can catch up on iPlayer.
And the reviews of this are great.
They are so good, because it is very hooky.
It's a Dutch format, tell us what goes on.
So, they asked me to do it, which was polite of them.
I mean, I must have been 51st on their list, but I imagine...
You did turn it down?! No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
So did you, George, and Jamie and Kristin.
Anyway, they said, "Would you like to do this show?"
And, "You have to move to Scotland."
Ancl I...
I mean, I don't travel anywhere, and I said, "No, thank
you, thanks for asking.
No can do."
Ancl they said, "Will you just watch the Dutch version?
Just be open-minded."
They sent me it.
Those kids did not get fed, I didn't brush my teeth.
I watched it - the Dutch version - like this, weeping,
I loved it so much.
Because it's a game of...
Every other game show is sort of about luck or about,
"Oh, yeah, I've got that bit of knowledge.
I remember, I did Ancient History, I know this."
This is purely a game of charm, of nous, of being wily.
Yeah, so I phoned up the boss and said, "I'm getting the train,
please let me do it."
So it's 22 people, they get to a castle in Scotland.
Yeah.
You choose three people to be the traitors.
Yes.
They all come together, 22 people.
There's an awful lot of money they can win.
They win this money by all together doing trials in the clay,
which is quite good, then they don't have
to think about who's a traitor, who's a faithful.
Every night, they all come together.
They're allowed to banish somebody.
There are three traitors, they can murder people at night.
Whoever's left gets the money.
Ancl if there is a traitor left in their midst, they take it all.
And 'R's up to £120,000.
So it's one of those shows, if you watch it, it's the sort
of show you will want to talk to people about the next day.
"Did you see that?"
We've got a little clip.
This is from next Tuesday's episode, Episode Four,
and there's an explosive revelation at breakfast.
Guys...
Guys, straight up, straight up, this is a lot.
Yep.
Obviously, we've got three people on the line here,
and I've got to be honest, love you all.
Alex isn't a traitor, straight up, she's my girlfriend.
What?
Yeah.
What?!
We came in here as a couple, but we came to try and find traitors.
What we tried to do is come apart separately, hear
where there were individual stories, combine them, to then try
and sort out the traitors.
She is a faithful, 100%.
I am faithful.
I thought you were going to get with Alex.
I'll be honest with you, I do think Ivan is a traitor.
GASPING
I've been getting really close to you because I actually think
you are the traitor.
I think you're an incredible traitor, by the way.
Ten points for Gryffindor.
Tom, you're barking up the wrong tree...
No, he is! No.
He is!
You lied to us for three days!
Stop, stop, he is.
They managed to lie to us for three days.
Hear him out.
Oh, my God, man!
APPLAUSE
They're losing their minds!
They...
Can I just say, the duty of care is really good on the show!
I don't want you to think we're just like, "Let's just
put them in a castle...
and make them not trust anyone."
But, Claudia, I love that because she looked shocked that
she's his girlfriend.
"You're my girlfriend."
Ilwh ! II
Ancl she was like, "Don't do that, because then you've just...
They're going to come for us."
But now that you've seen it all...
I haven't...
I can't watch myself, it's disgusting.
No, but you've seen them.
LAUGHTER
But do you now know what makes someone good at this game?
Yeah.
Yes.
What makes someone good at this game?
Charm.
Charm? I...
But lying, lying must be a big part of being good at this game?
Lying is really good, and deception, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
LAUGHTER
No, because I'm just thinking an actor would be
very good at this game.
Good at lying.
Yes.
No.
Oh, you must be good at lying!
No, I'm terrible, terrible.
Really?
Yeah, you have to pay me.
There's money on the line here.
But I can't think of anything...
Sorry.
Yeah, go on.
I can't think of anything worse than being involved
in something like that.
It must be so stressful.
It is stress...
Well, the other thing that's interesting is when you watch it
unfurl, you think immediately, "I'm just going to be on the side
of the faithful and I want them to get those naughty traitors out."
But your allegiances change, they go back again,
because you actually respect great game play.
Yes.
Listen, I'm obsessed, I'm far too in, we can
start a WhatsApp chat.
Yeah.
If you watch it, I would genuinely...
I need to find people to talk about it with.
No, I'm with you.
You watch it, you want to talk about it.
I'm like, "Ah..."
Jamie, chefs must lie all the time.
What do you mean?
—
"Delicious!"
Yeah.
"Oh, yes, it's done.
"Yes, it's meant to be like that."
Can I just ask you?
The special, you know when you go to a restaurant?
Yeah.
It's not special, right?
It's called the "special".
That's the first lie.
"We have a special.
We have ox tongue, with a little bit of baked beans and some parsley."
Is it just stuff that you've got?
It can be utilising leftovers...
LAUGHTER
...or meat, and being creative with carcass balance.
Er...
No, I mean, it should represent something special and seasonal.
Oh, good.
I mean, don't get me wrong, the specials board can lie.
Yeah.
And also, "This is really easy."
I feel, sometimes, that's a lie as well.
"Anyone can do this."
It depends on who's watching.
Yeah!
It's quite subjective.
Yes, it really is.
It really is subjective.
I love lying.
I lie to my kids all the time.
Really? Yes.
Ancl again, don't worry, they're not watching.
I lied for the first 12 years of my son's life,
my eldest son's life.
He was like, "Mummy, have you found Nutella?"
I was like,
Do you know what?
I am keeping my eyes peeled, and the minute I find it,
I'm going to get a jar."
He was like, "Ah, fingers crossed!"
I was like...
They still believe that iPads don't work in residential properties.
LAUGHTER
"I don't know why, it's such a...
It's a malfunction.
Because if they did work at home, of course we would have them.
They only work at the dentist's."
Ancl they were like, "It seems, like, so..."
Ancl the little one is like, "It's so elusive on the iPad
Ancl the little one is like, "It's so elusive of the iPad
that it doesn't work."
I'm like, "Yeah, go read a book."
But your daughter got her own back, though, with another big lie.
This is bad, yes.
So our daughter, she's 16.
She was in lockdown and she was revising for her GCSEs
or whatever and we had a parent-teacher meeting.
It was, like, eight months in.
The poor teachers were working so hard, we were incredibly grateful.
We sat there, and she's super cute.
Obviously, I think she's super cute.
She's like in bunches, next to me.
Ancl the head of year said, "Look, I know we shouldn't bring this up
because Tilda says you guys are really embarrassed about it,
but we just have to say we are so sorry about your
lack of Wi-Fi."
LAUGHTER
I was like, "Come again?"
Also, by the way, I do my Radio 2 show live from the airing cupboard.
We've got full Wi-Fi.
If nothing else...
Ancl I just went, "I'm sorry?"
And, "Tilda, can I have a word?"
For eight months, I was like "Good luck in Double Maths."
She was like, "Uh-huh," doing TikToks in her room.
Hadn't clone anything.
The biggest lie of all.
Ancl also, wrote, quite cleverly, in the e-mail,
"Please don't mention it to my parents because they're
slightly embarrassed and their Wi-Fi is really dodgy,
and I don't want to tell them because they're
home-schooling three of us, and I just want to be supportive..."
So what did you do?
Did you go along with it?
Did you back her up?
Absolutely not.
LAUGHTER
I'm not that good a liar.
I was like, "No, we have Wi-Fi, we're OK."
Ancl then, "Tilda!"
Ladies and gentlemen, you can follow the fortunes
of The Traitors on BBC One Tuesday through Thursday evening.
It's very good.
APPLAUSE Now...
George Takei, you bring us a new musical.
I mean, you didn't see this coming.
You just thought, you know, it'll be a film, TV show.
No, it's a new musical.
It's called Allegiance.
It's at the Charing Cross Theatre from January
the 7th to April the 8th.
And this is...
So this is based on an experience that your family had.
Well, 120,000 Japanese Americans, American citizens
of hpanese ancestry.
Pearl Harbor was bombed by japan.
Ancl overnight, racism and war hysteria swept through the country.
We looked just like the people that bombed Pearl Harbor.
We were yelled at, spat at, called ugly names.
Graffiti was painted on businesses, homes.
My father's car had the letters "JAP" painted on it.
It was a horrible time.
And the government was swept up as we“.
With no charge, no trial, they came down with a curfew on us.
The next morning, when my father went to the bank to make
a deposit or a withdrawal, our bank account was frozen.
Our money was taken over by the government.
Some families lost their entire life savings.
Ancl then, on a fateful clay, February the 19th, President
Franklin Delaware Roosevelt, a great President, signed
Executive Order 9066, which ordered alljapanese Americans
on the West Coast - approximately 120,000 of us -
to be summarily rounded up and imprisoned in ten
barbed-wire prison camps, in some of the most god-awful places
in the country.
Three layers of barbed-wire fence, machine guns in the sentry towers,
and half a dozen tanks intimidating and bullying.
The tanks were vehicles of warfare.
And you were experiencing all this as a child.
And I read somewhere, later on, you were talking
to your father about it.
So things you remembered as a child, like you remembered
when you were taken out of your house that you thought
the neighbours were kind of waving goodbye, lining the streets,
but that isn't what they were doing.
Oh, well, on that morning, my father came into our bedroom that
I shared with my brother, Henry.
He dresses hurriedly and told us to play in the living room,
while our parents did some last-minute packing.
Ancl there was nothing to do in the living room,
so we were standing by the front window just gazing out
at the neighbourhood, when we suddenly saw two soldiers
marching up our driveway.
They carried rifles, with shiny bayonets on them.
They stomped up the porch and our window was right by the steps.
They stomped across the porch and started banging on the door.
Henry and I were frozen.
My father came rushing out of the bedroom, answered the door.
They pointed the bayonet at my father and said,
"Get your family out."
My father gave us, Henry and me, boxes tied with twine to carry.
He had the two heavy suitcases.
Ancl we followed him out onto the driveway
and we waited for our mother.
Ancl when she emerged, escorted by the other soldier,
she had our baby sister in one arm, a huge duffel bag in the other and
tears were streaming down her cheek.
That, the terror of that morning is seared into my memory.
I will never...
I mean, that happened now, what, just about 80 years ago.
It's still there, embedded.
I can never forget that morning.
And now, you've done this beautiful thing,
you've transformed it into a musical.
It's played on Broadway and now it's coming to London.
We've got a little taste.
This is you in that production, with the Tony Award
winner Lea Salonga.
Listen.
# Take a look at page...
# But paper also change
# I fold it up this way
# A paper flower blossom
# just like Kei #.
Nothing blooms at Heart Mountain.
You want to bet?
$2, say.
I make garden grow in hard ground.
You're on.
Ha!
You're going to lose.
APPLAUSE
I mean, it's such a beautiful way to complete this horrible story,
and I just wonder, have your brother and sister, did they come
to see it on Broadway?
Oh, of course. Of course.
I mean, it must have been so weird for them
to see their memories on stage like that.
My baby sister, who's now a lady, says she thinks she remembers,
but she's not sure.
She thinks she remembers because we told her,
our parents, and me.
But Henry doesn't remember too much either.
They went through that, but they were too young
to really be affected by it.
George, it's a fascinating story.
You can see George Takei's Allegiance at
the Charing Cross Theatre from January the 7th.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Now, let's move on.
Jamie Oliver brings us a new cookbook for
Christmas and what's great about Jamie,
it is not just a book, it is
always a great idea and this year is no different.
So, Jamie, tell us all about One.
Oh, well, this is a book devoted to your hatred of
washing up.
APPLAUSE
So, I have been trying for years to find the sweet spot
and, clearly, I have.
But I think the idea, especially now more than ever, just
time, not too many ingredients, in one vessel, less washing up,
cover all the bases.
Breakfast, brunch, lunch, dinner, nibbles,
hangovers, hangover cures, sorry, not hangovers.
Yeah, I mean, I'm still plugging away, trying to be
useful.
And there are dishes for everyone.
Claudia, are you a flashy eater?
Claudia, are you a fussy eater?
I feel...
Can I just say this?
I am not just saying this because I am sitting next to you,
your food is unbelievable and I love your videos on Instagram,
even stuff that I am not sure.
Like, get an apple, grate it, put it on some
meringue.
Whatever you do, I want to do it.
I'm not sure he's done that.
No, but you put up ribs this week me and my husband were like, "Let's try
and do that."
But I don't believe in aubergine.
Is there aubergine in there?
Yes, yes.
It is one of my favourites.
Feast your eyes.
What is that?
Hasselback aubergine pie.
Yeah, man.
No, guys, no.
Britain has a bad relationship with aubergines,
we don't really understand the beauty that is within them.
My job is to give you basically about 80%
of what you want and about 20% of what you didn't know you wanted yet.
And aubergine is definitely in that camp.
But it is amazing.
You don't just have to have it fried, it can
be really soft and steamy.
Mulchy.
Yes, you can make it tender, you can make it crisp.
The fact that it both happens at the same time,
fleshy but also hard.
Urgh.
I don't accept it.
But one pan is genius.
Kristin are you like a cordon bleu French
chef?
No, no, no, but I do love to cook.
I do love to cook...
French food.
Yes, I do like to cook French food but I find it very difficult to
want to cook here.
Why?
What happened?
Because I can't, I don't like going to a farmer's market
because market is obviously a farmer, right.
So you have to go to the supermarket.
Is it the name that annoys you?
Yes, it does.
You wouldn't say, "I'm going to this really nice, industrial
market," would you?
There are some amazing markets here, though.
I can't find anything that doesn't come in a packet.
The plastic a problem.
The plastic is a real problem and now with no sell by date
but you can't actually get to what you are buying with no sell
by date so you don't know that it has
completely had it when you get it home and you open it, so it is a
sort of...
I feel a campaign coming.
Weirdly, isn't it funny how things change?
I had forgotten that in 2008 we all saw you, George, eating all
sorts on I'm A Celebrity.
I'd forgotten you were in I'm A Celebrity.
You were top three.
There you are.
I don't know what you are eating there.
You liked some of it, didn't you?
Oh, yes, insects.
They are delicious.
They were alive, skittering about.
That's awful.
So the challenging part was catching them and
in your mouth you start chewing right
away and it's crunchy and not like.
Cockroaches, Grasshoppers.
Fresh enough for you, Kristin?
No packaging there.
The French are venturesome eaters.
Who would think of eating frogs' legs?
Or all the other things...
Snails, delicious.
If you love French food, you have to be venturesome.
In the jungles we had to be venturesome to survive.
That's my line, I couldn't do that.
I couldn't do it.
You couldn?
No.
Oh, we are going to eat a kangaroo's Venus.
Oh, we are going to eat a kangaroo's penis.
You are right about that.
I did it.
Has anyone actually thrown up yet? Yes, as you said it I had a memory.
And also we could probably eat kangaroo penis but you need to
do something like so take it in garlic or something.
Yes, put it in one pan.
There is nothing more tasteless than kangaroo penis.
There no taste.
You have had a lot of experience.
It's leathery and thick and you've got to chew it.
It sort of a relief to know it's tasteless, though.
They could have like slow cooked it or something.
Slow cooked it?
Well, it's a lot of chewing, isn't it?
But there is no flavour to it. You have to add garlic.
It helps, definitely with the penis.
Sometimes. Say that again.
It helps with the penis.
Oh. m'!-
APPLAUSE.
And, Jamie, we must mention your extraordinary campaigning, the
and are you one of the very few people who met
Prime Minister Liz Truss?
No, no.
No, no, I knew it would be a quick innings.
I could feel it in my, you know, in my heart.
No, I didn't, but we kind of knew it wasn't going to be great
for child health because we had been tracking her for about three years
and we kind of know they move around quite a lot in their jobs so I knew
it wasn't going to last very long.
She did
beat
rnY
expectations.
As
WE
She did beat my expectations. As we head
She did beat my expectations. As we head towards
the
Christmas
school
head towards the Christmas school holidays,
what
6P6
'Nu
hoping
"by?
Holidays, what are you hoping for? We
have
El
campaign
at
the
moment
We have a campaign at the moment where
there
I?
El
gap
between
the
where there is a gap between the free
school
lunch
kids
and
the
free school lunch kids and the Universal
Credit
kids,
it's
about
Universal Credit kids, it's about 800,000
children.
TheY
are
from
WY'!
800,000 children. They are from very chaflenged
families
financially
and
challenged families financially and they
are
WY'!
Vulnerable
and
I
have
they are very vulnerable and I have seen
it
and
I
have
worked
if'
it
and
seen it and I have worked in it and I
have
been
concerned
for
17
years
I have been concerned for 17 years and
it
I?
Hard
to
take
when
'Nu
see
and it is hard to take when you see it.
We
have
recognised
it
for
about
it. We have recognised it for about four
years
and
BS
we
S10
into
winter
four years and as we go into winter and
the
cost
of
living,
I
think
we
and the cost of living, I think we have
to
fix
it
and
no
one
wants
to
have to fix it and no one wants to fix
it
because
there
are
El
lot
of
fix it because there are a lot of problems.
But
one
it
comes
to
kids
problems. But one it comes to kids and
how
we
treat
them
and
how
and how we treat them and how society
treats
them,
there
I?
limits
society treats them, there is limits and
I
think
this
I?
One.
We
do
and I think this is one. We do befieve
it
I?
Really
important.
It
believe it is really important. It is
rea lly
important
and
900d
luck
is really important and good luck with
the
HGW
book.
It
if
out
HOW.
With the new book. It is out now. Jamie
Oliver,
everybody.
Jamie Oliver, everybody. OK,
Jamie Oliver, everybody. OK, it
if
Jamie Oliver, everybody. OK, it is time
Jamie Oliver, everybody. OK, it is time for
music
and
the
soulful
time for music and the soulful Swedish
sisters
6P6
back
after
five
Swedish sisters are back after five years
with
a
stunning
HGW
album,
years with a stunning new album, Palomino,
and
performing
title
out
Palomino, and performing title out of
rrlY
head,
it
if
First
Aid
Kit.
# Back in time, oh, I go wandering
# Through the rooms of my mind
# Every door that I've been closing
# All the people that I have let down
# On a river, I'm floating down the stream
# And back again
# Like a beggar on my knees
# Am I running out of time
# Stuck inside my dreaming
# Falling behind
# Running on low
# Does it matter now
# Let me out, out of my mind
# Out of my head, oh, oh
# Words hung heavy upon my shoulders
# Slowly drowning in the sound
# Every door just flew open
# Praying I'd stay tethered to the ground
# On a river, I'm floating down the stream
# And back again
# Like a prisoner set me free
# Am I running out of time
# Stuck inside my dreaming
# Falling behind
# Running on low
# Does it matter now
# Let me out, out of my mind
# Out of my head, oh, oh
# Out of my head, out of my mind
# On a river, I'm floating down the stream
# And back again
# Like a beggar on my knees
# Am I running out of time
# All my dreaming
# All my trials
# Where they'll lead
# Does it matter now
# Let me out, out of my mind
# Stuck inside my dreaming
# Falling behind
# Running on low
# Does it matter now
# Let me out, out of my mind
# Out of my head, oh, oh
# Out of my head, out of my mind
# Out of my head, oh, oh
# Out of my head, oh, oh #.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Gorgeous!
First Aid Kit, everybody!
How beautiful was that?
Kiara, Johanna, come on over, join us, do.
And big up the rest of the band as well.
Come on over.
Thank you so much, that was beautiful.
Come in, have a sit down, there is champagne
ready for you.
Hello, hello, hello.
Sit down, champagne.
Make yourselves at home.
Oh, thank you so much.
There is room for all.
Thank you so much for that.
Yes, cheers.
Cheers, ladies.
Beautiful, absently gorgeous.
That is from the new album, Palomino.
There you are, and there you are with some horses.
Palomino.
So are you both big fans of horses?
No.
I'm terrified, to be honest.
I mean, we like them from afar.
But that's you right beside a horse.
Yeah, but I was terrified.
Yeah, she was.
We're by a cliff with aggressive horses.
No, they weren't aggressive.
They were.
Yeah, I know you were really scared.
Why did you choose to call it Palomino and then pose with
horses?
Yeah, and they're not even palomino horses.
Yeah, I wasn't going to say that.
I wasn't...
going to push it further.
No, they're not, they're just some random horses.
I know, I know.
But well done for your art, for your art.
Thank you.
Because, Kristin, people think you like
horses, why do people think you like horses?
I can't stand horses.
I'm with you.
No, because when I was, yes, a younger woman, along with
champagne and cigarettes, I got a lot of horses to ride in films.
One very, very good film called the Horse Whisperer.
Ancl as I signed the contract, I thought, oh, God, I
might have to ride a horse.
Yeah, chances are, yeah!
Yeah.
Actually, I really enjoyed that part.
I liked riding horses in America.
Is it easier in America?
Yes, it is.
Is it really?
Yeah, Western style.
Yeah.
You have a big saddle and you have huge stirrups.
Yeah.
Try horses in America, you'd love it there, yeah!
OK, so you don't like horses, but I know that
you really love dogs.
So who owns this little guy?
That's my baby.
That's Pablo.
Pablo?
Yeah.
He's a Spanish street dog.
He is new in your life?
I've had him for about four years.
Oh, OK.
So how did you get him from Spain?
I found him on Facebook.
And...
Did he just friend you randomly?
No, this was the picture, and it said, "I'm so
ugly, nobody wants me."
Ancl then it was clone, I had to have him.
Ancl I think he's the most beautiful little man.
He is gorgeous.
Is there something wrong with him?
LAUGHTER
Yes, there is.
I call him El Diablo.
Yes.
Pablo Diablo, yes.
He's not a nice dog.
He's nice to me.
He loves you.
He loves the people he knows.
But he's scared of strangers.
Ancl probably for, you know, reasonable reasons.
Yes, he's probably had some stuff go on, yeah.
Yes, yes.
Fair enough.
Yes.
So Pablo must be missing you, because you're on tour
right now, aren't you?
Yeah, yeah.
Aw!
I miss him.
So how long...
ls the tour just here or are you going other
Places?
Yes, just the UK right now.
Yeah.
OK.
And I'm not going to talk about it because I think it's all sold
out, isn't it?
Pretty much.
There's a few tickets left, in Cardiff.
Yeah, Cardiff.
Stupid Cardiff!
They're all going to the Star Trek convention, that's the problem.
May you live long and prosper.
LAUGHTER
Well, listen, good look with the rest of the tour and,
come on, Cardiff, sell out!
Thank you so much for that gorgeous performance, Johanna and Kiara.
First Aid Kit, everybody!
Yeah!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Right, that's nearly it.
We've got just time for a visit to the big red chair.
This is your favourite part of the show, I know.
I have a sort of vague memory of something being really repulsive,
something really repulsive.
Really?
That sounds so unlikely!
It's amazing.
I find the whole thing really perplexing.
The whole idea of coming...
Anyway. Yeah.
LAUGHTER
No, but sometimes, they have brilliant stories.
OK.
Ancl they're so nervous about being flipped,
and they're not flipped, and it's somehow magical.
All right, Claudia, I hope...
I hope this doesn't disappoint you.
Here we go.
Hello!
Hello.
I have high hopes.
What's your name?
I'm Sue.
Sue, lovely, Sue.
And where do you live, Sue?
Sutton Cold field.
Oh, Sutton Cold field!
Home of the anecdote!
And what do you do in Sutton Cold field, Sue?
Errn, I'm...
ls your name Sue?
Yes, it is Sue, yep.
Oh, good.
LAUGHTER
I'm a health and safety lawyer. Oh!
Ooh!
Come on, Sue, give us the dirt!
You know why she's here?
It's a lawsuit waiting to happen!
Are you wearing a neck brace?
You're not going to get flipped!
LAUGHTER
OK, off you go with your story, Sue.
Well, this was a few years ago.
I went on holiday with the family and we decided to go to a water park
for the day with the kids.
Good start.
And, er, as soon as you walk in, there's these great big drop
slides in front of you, and the kids immediately
wanted to go on those.
So, I thought, "OK.
Better go now, before the queues build up."
But it took us about an hour to get to the top of these slides
and there were hundreds of people around.
It was just massive, massive queues.
And I thought, "I've got to go first because, otherwise, I'm
just not going to do it."
I had to psych myself out.
So I'd read all the instructions, obviously, and...
LAUGHTER
APPLAUSE
I got to the top of the slide...
and it said "cross your legs", which I did, and "cross
your arms," which I did.
And the guide then said, "Wait for my signal."
“OK?
And I am a big screamer on the thrill rides, so he said...
He said, "Right, wait for my signal.
Gs!“
And I shut my eyes and opened my mouth, and I screamed
at the top of my voice, I was screaming.
And I was absolutely flying down this slide,
it was so smooth and there was water rushing down.
And it was just the most amazing ride.
And as my scream came to an end, as it petered out, I could hear this
voice in my ear saying, "Ma'am.
Ma'am.
You need to push off if you want to enjoy this ride."
LAUGHTER
APPLAUSE
Oh, you can walk, Sue.
You can walk.
Good, clean, family fun.
Er, that really is all we have time for.
If you'd like to have a go in that red chair yourself
and tell your story, you can contact us via our website
at this very address.
Please say a huge thank you to all of my guests tonight.
First Aid Kit!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Jamie Oliver!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Claudia Winkleman!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
George Take“.!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
And Kristin Scott Thomas!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
join me next week, with music from Olly Murs,
comedian jack Whitehall, celebrity baker Nadi ya Hussain,
national treasure Sir Lenny Henry and Oscar-winner Kate Winslet.
I'll see you then!
Goodnight, everybody!
Bye-bye!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE