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Hello, I'm George Takei.

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You know, people are always asking
me about playing Sulu in Star Trek.

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Oh, George, hold that starter again.

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You are needed backstage.

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Oh, no problem.

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Beam us up.

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Oh!

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Impressive, right?

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He's still got it.

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Let's start the show!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING.

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Oh!

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I ran, I ran.

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Hello, good evening.

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Also welcome to the show.

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We've got a great
show for you tonight.

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I tell you, I couldn't be more
thrilled and fascinated

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if I was Prince William looking
at a basketball.

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Has he never seen one before?

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It's like his godmother
talking to a black person.

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APPLAUSE.

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That's Kate and Wills on their visit
to Boston this week.

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Some locals were pleased to see
Wills at a basketball game,

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though he wasn't the royal they most
wanted to see at a court in America.

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LAUGHTER.

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The World Cup continues.

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CHEERING.

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Yes, and commiserations to Wales.

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Audience: Aw!

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But congratulations to England who
are through to the next round, yeah.

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Did you see that one brave English
fan watching the game in Cardiff?

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Look at that.

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If you want to pay your respects,
her funeral is on Wednesday.

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LAUGHTER.

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England's next game
is against Senegal.

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Could be interesting,
a bankrupt third World country

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with a corrupt government
against the African champions.

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CHEERING.

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Let's get some guests on.

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Later we'll have music from Swedish
pop sensation First Aid Kit.

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I love them.

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But first it wouldn't be Christmas
without a new cookbook from this

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celebrity chef and campaigner,
it's the £I wonder, Jamie Oliver.

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Hello, sir.

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Give me some hugging.

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She's the queen of Strictly,
author and now presenter

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of the reality game show
The Traitors.

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It's Claudia Winkleman.

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Dazzling, dazzling.

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Have a seat, you.

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This man has lived long
and prospered as Sulu in the classic

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sci-fi hit Star Trek.

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Now he is bringing his new musical,
Allegiance, to the West End stage.

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It is none other than
George Takei, everybody.

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George Takei, lovely to see you.

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Thank you for your support.

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Sit.

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George Takei, everyone.

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And she is the Oscar-nominated star
of The English Patient,

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Four Weddings And A Funeral,
and Hour.

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Now returning to our TV screens
in the spy thriller Slow Courses,

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it's Kristin Scott Thomas.

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Hello.

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Have a seat, you.

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Very good.

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And lovely to see you all.

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So, welcome back, welcome back,
first time, welcome to George.

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Hello.

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And, Kristin, is your first time
on the sofa I think.

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I think so because last
time we were in funny

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little kind of chairs.

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Pods.

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Pods.

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Now, sofa back.

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And have we dragged you over
from France to be here?

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No.

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OK.

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But tomorrow morning at the crack
of dawn I'm going to Belgium.

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Oh, OK.

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Yes, I like to keep moving.

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Always keep moving.

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But you don't live in Belgium?

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No, I live in London.

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OK.

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Wow, she is like a spy.

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That's what spies do.

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I cannot tell you where I live.

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And George Takei, Star Trek legend.

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CHEERING.

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Live long and prosper.

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But the weird thing is you have
a catchphrase and it's not that.

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Your catchphrase isn't
even from Star Trek.

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No, it's from a shock
jock named Howard Stern.

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Yeah, yeah.

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He is a clear friend and he has been
a partner of ours, my husband Brad,

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in talking up equality
for LGBT people.

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But I had never met him when I was
first invited to do a show.

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I was doing a play in New York
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the play the publicist gives
you your assignment, so I went

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to that address on Madison Avenue,
they asked me to wait on a coach

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to wait on a couch sort
of like this, and they

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had the radio on.

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I was looking through magazines
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that they have on is disgusting,
it's a vile conversation."

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So I said to the person
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"Why can't we have good music here?

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This is terrible."

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Ancl she said, "That's the show
we are waiting to go on."

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Ancl then, right on cue,
the receptionist came,

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ushered me into the studio,
I walked in and there

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is this tall, wild haired
horn-rimmed glass guy.

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Ancl I said, "Good morning."

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Ancl he says, "You have a deep voice,
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have a big dong below."

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I asked, "Are we on the air?"

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Ancl he said, "Yep."

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Ancl I said, "Oh, my."

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Ancl he had it on tape
and so whether I'm there on the show

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or not when someone says something
or do something outrageous

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or not when someone says something
or does something outrageous

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he presses a button and my voice
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"Oh my."

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Ancl it has become my signature.

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I'm sure there were plenty
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in Blackpool a couple of weeks ago,
Claudia?

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Yes, there is that.

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I can't believe you
brought up the B word.

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I do a dancing thing and we all go
to Blackpool and I'm

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just trying to explain.

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I wouldn't.

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Ancl we love going to Blackpool
because it is the world's greatest

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ballroom, it is called
the Tower ballroom.

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We all go up there,
there is gazillions of us,

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we do the show and then
we get pickled.

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Pickled?

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Hammered.

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I thought that was a sour...

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We might also do that.

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I'll be honest, we can't
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but we have a brilliant time.

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We end up doing the conga,
we are just so excited

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to be in Blackpool.

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And of course Strictly this weekend
is mad because it has

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already been on tonight.

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Yes, I apologise.

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Ancl then the results
are tomorrow, I think.

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I don't even know.

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I just turn up.

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I go, OK, I'm here with sandwiches.

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OK, very good.

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And Jamie Oliver is here.

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I can't believe this, this has got
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I believe so.

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That's amazing.

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It's been a long time.

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That's amazing.

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And you limit yourself now
not just in recipes,

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but apparently there are words
you won't use in recipes.

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Oh, yes.

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Well because when I write books I am
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a relationship with the books
and howl put them together

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and numbers and words.

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And then there were certain words
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in the culinary situation.

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So I basically banned words
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editorial team agree and sign
are never, ever.

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Some of them I understand
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of the banned words.

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Now, moist, I know what you mean,
but some recipes should be moist.

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They all have reason.

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Do you ever need crevice?

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Well, yeah, because if you are
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and you really want to get it
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but crevice and dinner
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as does rimming.

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Rimming is really important
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to give it a good rimming
to get the pastry...

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We are in Blackpool again.

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<i>Oh. m'!-</i>

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Bad words.

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OK, we start tonight
with Kristin Scott Thomas.

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She returns in season
two of Slow Horses.

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It starts tonight with new episodes
every Friday on Apple TV plus.

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I am so looking forward to this,
I was gushing to beforehand,

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I am a big fan of the show.

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But if people haven't
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what have they missed,
what do they need to know

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going into season two?

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Well...

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Gary Old man plays a sort of spy
who's clone unspeakable things

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and has been relegated to a distant
department which is still part

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of all the service,
but they kind of put him

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in a cupboard, if you like.

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Ancl anyone who does anything silly
like leave a top-secret file

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on the train, or sleep
with an Ambassador's wife,

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or anything like that,
that is the sort of sin bin,

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it is the sort of
underbelly of spying.

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Of course, I don't belong there.

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No.

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I am at Regent's Park
which is where the main thing

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happens and I am sort of keeping
an eye on them, make sure they don't

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mess anything up again
because they are always interfering

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with my plans.

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I tell you what, let's have a clip
of what to expect from season two.

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I do not need the slow horses
digging around the past.

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This feels too suspicious.

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What does that actually mean?

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There is more to it.

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Stand back.

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There has been an alert.

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There is a traitor right at the top.

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Ancl he has unfinished business.

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# London calling to
the far-away towns...#.

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There is a plane packed
with explosives.

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Thousands of people,
they are going to die.

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Sometimes the only way to work
out why a trap has been

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set is to walk into it.

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APPLAUSE.

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It's also got fantastic music,
the theme tune is fantastic.

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Fantastic.

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You don't do much TV,
was Fleabag the last bit

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of television you did?

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Yes, I think it was.

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Yes, I did do quite a bit
of television in my youth,

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I haven't clone very much recently
and Slow Horses was irresistible.

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But Fleabag was also irresistible.

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I mean, I had been longing for that
woman to call me and asked me to do

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something and she did.

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And it was only one episode but it
made quite the impact.

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Yes, it did.

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It did, yes, I'm a reference.

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Are you a reference?

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YES, a menopause reference.

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Anyway, let's celebrate that.

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But obviously you were in
the episode of Fleabag and you did

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TV when you were young,
but this I think is a kind of lead

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actor, this is your first foray
into long form television?

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Yes.

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So what is that like
coming from film to this?

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Well, it's very, I find it quite
challenging because I am

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not in it all the time,
so it's a bit like being a new girl

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every three weeks, you get
to be a new girl again.

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Ancl you have to start
again with everything.

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Sol go in and then one clay it's
goodbye and just as you are getting

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into a rhythm you are whipped away
and they have forgotten

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all about you and then you come back
sort of six weeks later

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and it's start again.

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So it's quite tricky and you have
to remember so many different

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plotlines in your head,
which is difficult for me.

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And also I suppose it
is trying to pace your

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performance over six hours.

255
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Ancl also you are shooting
episode seven, but then

256
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because you are in the same place
you have got to shoot episode one

257
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but not necessarily in that order,
in a different order.

258
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Ancl then you will do half
of one and half of another

259
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and it is completely mudleling.

260
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Because, George, I mean
Star Trek, you were in it

261
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over a span of 30 years.

262
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What is it like playing one
character for that long?

263
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Well, it is science fiction,
so unlike serious television

264
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where you play the same character
week after week in one

265
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episode we might have been
attacked by a vibration that

266
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destroys our inhibition
and we start acting out

267
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what we were trying to hide,
all of us.

268
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Ancl so we get to play a whole
totally different character.

269
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OK, and,Jamie, I know
you are a big star Wars fan.

270
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Star Trek?

271
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I loved it.

272
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Oh, did you?

273
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Oh, good.

274
00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,015
No, I loved it to bits.

275
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I used to watch it
all the time as a kid.

276
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It was exciting.

277
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But the merch wasn't quite up
there with Star Wars.

278
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I was into the merch,
all the figures and stuff like that.

279
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But, no, lots of memories as a kid.

280
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I've eaten at your restaurants too.
Have you?

281
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Oh, and you are Italian.
Thank you.

282
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I love Italian food.

283
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Bless you, well, we'll get
you some more, come round.

284
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Are you going to be
here for a while?

285
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I am, until April.

286
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I'll cook for you, how about that?

287
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That will be a deal.
Will be there.

288
00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,215
And, George, the conventions,
are you going to a Star Trek

289
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convention this weekend?

290
00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,095
The clay after tomorrow.
Yes, in Telford.

291
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They call it the Welsh
convention but apparently

292
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there is a reconstruction happening
at the venue in Wales

293
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so they brought it over
the border to Telford and so,

294
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Star Trek fans, I'll see you.

295
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Live Long and prosper.

296
00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,575
And you go to loads
of these conventions.

297
00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,575
I do quite a few of them, yes.

298
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All over the world.

299
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Brazil, Germany, Italy, Japan.

300
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What happens there?

301
00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:51,655
We talk about Star Trek.

302
00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,455
But like in a group?

303
00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:59,375
We have questions and answers
and we have autograph signing,

304
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,975
and we have the photos that we pose
together, like this.

305
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Of course.

306
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LAUGHTER

307
00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,855
And now, Kristin, I feel
like a fool, because it wasn't

308
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until Season One came out that I'd
heard about the books.

309
00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:14,615
Yep.

310
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The Slow Horses books,
which people love.

311
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They love them.

312
00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,815
I'd never heard of them because it's
not really my thing.

313
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But anyway, I was told,
"You've got to read these books."

314
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But they're a stack of books
this big, so I started

315
00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,055
to listen to the audiobooks.

316
00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,655
But of course, that's a disaster,
because what happens?

317
00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,295
You know, it could be 20
seconds, it could be two

318
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hours, you have no idea,
but suddenly, you're asleep.

319
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LAUGHTER

320
00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,135
So I then had to, you know,
really apply myself and read these

321
00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,175
books, which are marvellous.

322
00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,215
Mick Herron, fantastic.

323
00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,895
So are there loads of these books?

324
00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,055
So there's going to be more?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

325
00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,735
There will be more Slow Horses?
Perhaps.

326
00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,655
I think it's been...
I think, hasn't it?

327
00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,095
Has it been announced?
It has.

328
00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,495
No, I'm pretty sure that's out
in the public world.

329
00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,575
Is it?

330
00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,175
Yeah, unless you die in this season
and no-one told you.

331
00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,215
No...

332
00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,255
LAUGHTER

333
00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,295
No, no, no.

334
00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,335
I don't die.

335
00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,335
I know that.

336
00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,375
You're in it.

337
00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,015
I'm not sure how many there are,
or for how long it goes on for.

338
00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,135
OK.

339
00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,975
I thought I read somewhere that
they've commissioned

340
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,055
two more seasons.

341
00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,215
Have I made that up?

342
00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,215
Er, no.

343
00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,295
Yeah.

344
00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,335
That's true.

345
00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,535
Yeah, let's just throw
it out into the ether!

346
00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,415
Yeah, let's manifest it,
let's make it true.

347
00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,455
It's a terrific show.

348
00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,095
Just a reminder that Slow Horses
continues on Apple TV Plus.

349
00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,135
Very good.

350
00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,175
OK.

351
00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,175
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

352
00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,295
Yeah.

353
00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,935
We move on to
Claudia Winkleman's latest.

354
00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,015
This is great.

355
00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,215
It's a reality psychological game
show called The Traitors.

356
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,015
It's stripped Tuesday
to Thursday on BBC1.

357
00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,895
If you haven't seen it yet,
you can catch up on iPlayer.

358
00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,495
And the reviews of this are great.

359
00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,175
They are so good,
because it is very hooky.

360
00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,215
It's a Dutch format,
tell us what goes on.

361
00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:59,815
So, they asked me to do it,
which was polite of them.

362
00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,135
I mean, I must have been 51st
on their list, but I imagine...

363
00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,015
You did turn it down?!
No, I didn't.

364
00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,055
Yes, you did.

365
00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,575
So did you, George,
and Jamie and Kristin.

366
00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,695
Anyway, they said, "Would
you like to do this show?"

367
00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,375
And, "You have to move to Scotland."

368
00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,575
Ancl I...

369
00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,255
I mean, I don't travel anywhere,
and I said, "No, thank

370
00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,255
you, thanks for asking.

371
00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,175
No can do."

372
00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,535
Ancl they said, "Will you just
watch the Dutch version?

373
00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:25,535
Just be open-minded."

374
00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,575
They sent me it.

375
00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,295
Those kids did not get fed,
I didn't brush my teeth.

376
00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,935
I watched it - the Dutch version -
like this, weeping,

377
00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,655
I loved it so much.

378
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,735
Because it's a game of...

379
00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,175
Every other game show is sort
of about luck or about,

380
00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,575
"Oh, yeah, I've got
that bit of knowledge.

381
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,695
I remember, I did Ancient
History, I know this."

382
00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,415
This is purely a game of charm,
of nous, of being wily.

383
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,495
Yeah, so I phoned up the boss
and said, "I'm getting the train,

384
00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,735
please let me do it."

385
00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,375
So it's <i>22</i> people, they get
to a castle in Scotland.

386
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,455
Yeah.

387
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,295
You choose three people
to be the traitors.

388
00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,375
Yes.

389
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,775
They all come together, 22 people.

390
00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,935
There's an awful lot
of money they can win.

391
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,855
They win this money by all together
doing trials in the clay,

392
00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,735
which is quite good,
then they don't have

393
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,895
to think about who's
a traitor, who's a faithful.

394
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,295
Every night, they all come together.

395
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,575
They're allowed to banish somebody.

396
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,975
There are three traitors,
they can murder people at night.

397
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,175
Whoever's left gets the money.

398
00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,455
Ancl if there is a traitor left
in their midst, they take it all.

399
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,735
<i>And 'R's up to £120,000.</i>

400
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,855
So it's one of those shows,
if you watch it, it's the sort

401
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,975
of show you will want to talk
to people about the next day.

402
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,015
"Did you see that?"

403
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,335
We've got a little clip.

404
00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:37,255
This is from next Tuesday's
episode, Episode Four,

405
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,935
and there's an explosive
revelation at breakfast.

406
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,295
Guys...

407
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,455
Guys, straight up,
straight up, this is a lot.

408
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,015
Yep.

409
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,175
Obviously, we've got three
people on the line here,

410
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,335
and I've got to be honest,
love you all.

411
00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:50,735
Alex isn't a traitor, straight up,
she's my girlfriend.

412
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,855
What?

413
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,895
Yeah.

414
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,055
What?!

415
00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:01,455
We came in here as a couple, but we
came to try and find traitors.

416
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,215
What we tried to do is come
apart separately, hear

417
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,615
where there were individual stories,
combine them, to then try

418
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,815
and sort out the traitors.

419
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,935
She is a faithful, 100%.

420
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,055
I am faithful.

421
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,175
I thought you were
going to get with Alex.

422
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,015
I'll be honest with you,
I do think Ivan is a traitor.

423
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,135
GASPING

424
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,735
I've been getting really close
to you because I actually think

425
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,815
you are the traitor.

426
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,935
I think you're an incredible
traitor, by the way.

427
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,975
Ten points for Gryffindor.

428
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,695
Tom, you're barking
up the wrong tree...

429
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,735
No, he is!
No.

430
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,735
He is!

431
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,455
You lied to us for three days!

432
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,495
Stop, stop, he is.

433
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,615
They managed to lie
to us for three days.

434
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,655
Hear him out.

435
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,735
Oh, my God, man!

436
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:35,695
APPLAUSE

437
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,815
They're losing their minds!

438
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,815
They...

439
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,215
Can I just say, the duty of care
is really good on the show!

440
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,855
I don't want you to think we're
just like, "Let's just

441
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,015
put them in a castle...

442
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,495
and make them not trust anyone."

443
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,855
But, Claudia, I love that
because she looked shocked that

444
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,855
she's his girlfriend.

445
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:51,895
"You're my girlfriend."

446
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:52,975
Ilwh ! II

447
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,615
Ancl she was like, "Don't do that,
because then you've just...

448
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,055
They're going to come for us."

449
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,735
But now that you've seen it all...

450
00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,775
I haven't...

451
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,215
I can't watch myself,
it's disgusting.

452
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,335
No, but you've seen them.

453
00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:03,415
LAUGHTER

454
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,335
But do you now know what makes
someone good at this game?

455
00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:07,375
Yeah.

456
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,375
Yes.

457
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,055
What makes someone
good at this game?

458
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,135
Charm.

459
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,135
Charm?
I...

460
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,535
But lying, lying must be a big part
of being good at this game?

461
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,215
Lying is really good,
and deception, yeah.

462
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,255
Yeah, yeah.

463
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,295
LAUGHTER

464
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,455
No, because I'm just
thinking an actor would be

465
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,655
very good at this game.

466
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,695
Good at lying.

467
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,735
Yes.

468
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,775
No.

469
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,455
Oh, you must be good at lying!

470
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,495
No, I'm terrible, terrible.

471
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,535
Really?

472
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,015
Yeah, you have to pay me.

473
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,455
There's money on the line here.

474
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,855
But I can't think of anything...

475
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:34,895
Sorry.

476
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,215
Yeah, go on.

477
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,415
I can't think of anything
worse than being involved

478
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,455
in something like that.

479
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,615
It must be so stressful.

480
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:42,695
It is stress...

481
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,735
Well, the other thing that's
interesting is when you watch it

482
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,615
unfurl, you think immediately,
"I'm just going to be on the side

483
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,695
of the faithful and I want them
to get those naughty traitors out."

484
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,695
But your allegiances change,
they go back again,

485
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,135
because you actually
respect great game play.

486
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,175
Yes.

487
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,335
Listen, I'm obsessed,
I'm far too in, we can

488
00:20:58,360 --> 00:20:59,375
start a WhatsApp chat.

489
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,415
Yeah.

490
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,095
If you watch it,
I would genuinely...

491
00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:04,415
I need to find people
to talk about it with.

492
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,455
No, I'm with you.

493
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,615
You watch it, you want
to talk about it.

494
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,735
I'm like, "Ah..."

495
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,415
Jamie, chefs must lie all the time.

496
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,415
What do you mean?

497
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,455
<i>—</i>

498
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,495
"Delicious!"

499
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,535
Yeah.

500
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,615
"Oh, yes, it's done.

501
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,295
"Yes, it's meant to be like that."

502
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,455
Can I just ask you?

503
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,855
The special, you know
when you go to a restaurant?

504
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,935
Yeah.

505
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,935
It's not special, right?

506
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,015
It's called the "special".

507
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,055
That's the first lie.

508
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,095
"We have a special.

509
00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:29,455
We have ox tongue, with a little bit
of baked beans and some parsley."

510
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,135
Is it just stuff that you've got?

511
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,335
It can be utilising leftovers...

512
00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:33,375
LAUGHTER

513
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,295
...or meat, and being creative
with carcass balance.

514
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,015
Er...

515
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,055
No, I mean, it should represent
something special and seasonal.

516
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:45,175
Oh, good.

517
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,215
I mean, don't get me wrong,
the specials board can lie.

518
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,295
Yeah.

519
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,775
And also, "This is really easy."

520
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,655
I feel, sometimes,
that's a lie as well.

521
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,695
"Anyone can do this."

522
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,855
It depends on who's watching.

523
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:56,935
Yeah!

524
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:57,975
It's quite subjective.

525
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,015
Yes, it really is.

526
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,095
It really is subjective.

527
00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:01,095
I love lying.

528
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:03,015
I lie to my kids all the time.

529
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,055
Really?
Yes.

530
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,735
Ancl again, don't worry,
they're not watching.

531
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,375
I lied for the first
12 years of my son's life,

532
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,455
my eldest son's life.

533
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,335
He was like, "Mummy,
have you found Nutella?"

534
00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:12,335
I was like,

535
00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:13,895
Do you know what?

536
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,775
I am keeping my eyes peeled,
and the minute I find it,

537
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,215
I'm going to get a jar."

538
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,615
He was like, "Ah, fingers crossed!"

539
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,695
I was like...

540
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,095
They still believe that iPads don't
work in residential properties.

541
00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:24,135
LAUGHTER

542
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,815
"I don't know why, it's such a...

543
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,855
It's a malfunction.

544
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,935
Because if they did work at home,
of course we would have them.

545
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,415
They only work at the dentist's."

546
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,815
Ancl they were like,
"It seems, like, so..."

547
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,135
Ancl the little one is like,
"It's so elusive on the iPad

548
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,015
Ancl the little one is like,
"It's so elusive of the iPad

549
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,015
that it doesn't work."

550
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,695
I'm like, "Yeah, go read a book."

551
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,535
But your daughter got her own back,
though, with another big lie.

552
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,575
This is bad, yes.

553
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,815
So our daughter, she's 16.

554
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,455
She was in lockdown
and she was revising for her GCSEs

555
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,415
or whatever and we had
a parent-teacher meeting.

556
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,815
It was, like, eight months in.

557
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,495
The poor teachers were working so
hard, we were incredibly grateful.

558
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,175
We sat there, and she's super cute.

559
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,655
Obviously, I think she's super cute.

560
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:07,895
She's like in bunches, next to me.

561
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:13,215
Ancl the head of year said, "Look,
I know we shouldn't bring this up

562
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,655
because Tilda says you guys
are really embarrassed about it,

563
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,495
but we just have to say
we are so sorry about your

564
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,575
lack of Wi-Fi."

565
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,575
LAUGHTER

566
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,815
I was like, "Come again?"

567
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,415
Also, by the way, I do my Radio <i>2</i>
show live from the airing cupboard.

568
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,455
We've got full Wi-Fi.

569
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,455
If nothing else...

570
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,935
Ancl I just went, "I'm sorry?"

571
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,615
And, "Tilda, can I have a word?"

572
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,255
For eight months, I was like
"Good luck in Double Maths."

573
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,415
She was like, "Uh-huh," doing
TikToks in her room.

574
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,455
Hadn't clone anything.

575
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,655
The biggest lie of all.

576
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,535
Ancl also, wrote, quite
cleverly, in the e-mail,

577
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,695
"Please don't mention it
to my parents because they're

578
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,655
slightly embarrassed
and their Wi-Fi is really dodgy,

579
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,815
and I don't want to tell
them because they're

580
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,455
home-schooling three of us,
and I just want to be supportive..."

581
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,655
So what did you do?

582
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,015
Did you go along with it?

583
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,295
Did you back her up?

584
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,335
Absolutely not.

585
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:57,295
LAUGHTER

586
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,815
I'm not that good a liar.

587
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,975
I was like, "No, we have
Wi-Fi, we're OK."

588
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,135
Ancl then, "Tilda!"

589
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,935
Ladies and gentlemen,
you can follow the fortunes

590
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,375
of The Traitors on BBC One
Tuesday through Thursday evening.

591
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,415
It's very good.

592
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,095
APPLAUSE
Now...

593
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:20,015
George Takei, you bring
us a new musical.

594
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,695
I mean, you didn't see this coming.

595
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,255
You just thought, you know,
it'll be a film, TV show.

596
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,495
No, it's a new musical.

597
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,575
It's called Allegiance.

598
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,495
It's at the Charing Cross
Theatre from January

599
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,935
the 7th to April the 8th.

600
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:30,935
And this is...

601
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,895
So this is based on an experience
that your family had.

602
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,855
Well, 120,000 Japanese Americans,
American citizens

603
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,415
<i>of hpanese ancestry.</i>

604
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,575
Pearl Harbor was bombed by japan.

605
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,775
Ancl overnight, racism and war
hysteria swept through the country.

606
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,135
We looked just like the people that
bombed Pearl Harbor.

607
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:04,055
We were yelled at,
spat at, called ugly names.

608
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:09,175
Graffiti was painted
on businesses, homes.

609
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,615
My father's car had the letters
"JAP" painted on it.

610
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,375
It was a horrible time.

611
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,055
<i>And the government
was swept up as we“.</i>

612
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:23,255
With no charge, no trial,
they came down with a curfew on us.

613
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,495
The next morning, when my father
went to the bank to make

614
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,415
a deposit or a withdrawal,
our bank account was frozen.

615
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,015
Our money was taken
over by the government.

616
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,775
Some families lost their
entire life savings.

617
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,895
Ancl then, on a fateful clay,
February the 19th, President

618
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,335
Franklin Delaware Roosevelt,
a great President, signed

619
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:54,495
Executive Order 9066,
which ordered alljapanese Americans

620
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,335
on the West Coast -
approximately 120,000 of us -

621
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:02,335
to be summarily rounded up
and imprisoned in ten

622
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:04,695
barbed-wire prison camps,
in some of the most god-awful places

623
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,935
in the country.

624
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,735
Three layers of barbed-wire fence,
machine guns in the sentry towers,

625
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,735
and half a dozen tanks
intimidating and bullying.

626
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,375
The tanks were vehicles of warfare.

627
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,935
And you were experiencing
all this as a child.

628
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,095
And I read somewhere,
later on, you were talking

629
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:28,295
to your father about it.

630
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:34,375
So things you remembered as a child,
like you remembered

631
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,375
when you were taken out
of your house that you thought

632
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,815
the neighbours were kind of waving
goodbye, lining the streets,

633
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,495
but that isn't what they were doing.

634
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,375
Oh, well, on that morning,
my father came into our bedroom that

635
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,815
I shared with my brother,
Henry.

636
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,695
He dresses hurriedly and told us
to play in the living room,

637
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,375
while our parents did
some last-minute packing.

638
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,175
Ancl there was nothing
to do in the living room,

639
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,775
so we were standing by the front
window just gazing out

640
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,895
at the neighbourhood,
when we suddenly saw two soldiers

641
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,095
marching up our driveway.

642
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:09,095
They carried rifles,
with shiny bayonets on them.

643
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:15,535
They stomped up the porch and our
window was right by the steps.

644
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,895
They stomped across the porch
and started banging on the door.

645
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,655
Henry and I were frozen.

646
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:28,135
My father came rushing out
of the bedroom, answered the door.

647
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,335
They pointed the bayonet
at my father and said,

648
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:34,015
"Get your family out."

649
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,455
My father gave us, Henry and me,
boxes tied with twine to carry.

650
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,695
He had the two heavy suitcases.

651
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,655
Ancl we followed him
out onto the driveway

652
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,735
and we waited for our mother.

653
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,335
Ancl when she emerged,
escorted by the other soldier,

654
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:56,135
she had our baby sister in one arm,
a huge duffel bag in the other and

655
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,655
tears were streaming down her cheek.

656
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,255
That, the terror of that morning
is seared into my memory.

657
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:06,895
I will never...

658
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,495
I mean, that happened now, what,
just about 80 years ago.

659
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,575
It's still there, embedded.

660
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,015
I can never forget that morning.

661
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,695
And now, you've done
this beautiful thing,

662
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,135
you've transformed it
into a musical.

663
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,535
It's played on Broadway
and now it's coming to London.

664
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,095
We've got a little taste.

665
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:24,495
This is you in that production,
with the Tony Award

666
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,615
winner Lea Salonga.

667
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:33,415
Listen.

668
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,615
# Take a look at page...

669
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,775
# But paper also change

670
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:49,255
# I fold it up this way

671
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,015
# A paper flower blossom

672
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,295
# just like Kei #.

673
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,535
Nothing blooms at Heart Mountain.

674
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,975
You want to bet?

675
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,015
$2, say.

676
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,095
I make garden grow in hard ground.

677
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,135
You're on.

678
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,175
Ha!

679
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,215
You're going to lose.

680
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:21,775
APPLAUSE

681
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,935
I mean, it's such a beautiful way
to complete this horrible story,

682
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,975
and I just wonder, have your brother
and sister, did they come

683
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,175
to see it on Broadway?

684
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,375
Oh, of course.
Of course.

685
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,735
I mean, it must have
been so weird for them

686
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,175
to see their memories
on stage like that.

687
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,695
My baby sister, who's now a lady,
says she thinks she remembers,

688
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,495
but she's not sure.

689
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,455
She thinks she remembers
because we told her,

690
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:54,135
our parents, and me.

691
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,815
But Henry doesn't
remember too much either.

692
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,015
They went through that,
but they were too young

693
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,415
to really be affected by it.

694
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,815
George, it's a fascinating story.

695
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,495
You can see
George Takei's Allegiance at

696
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,455
the Charing Cross Theatre
from January the 7th.

697
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,455
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

698
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,255
Now, let's move on.

699
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,375
Jamie Oliver brings
us a new cookbook for

700
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,655
Christmas and what's
great about Jamie,

701
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,615
it is not just a book, it is

702
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,975
always a great idea and this
year is no different.

703
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,695
So, Jamie, tell us all about One.

704
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,255
Oh, well, this is a book
devoted to your hatred of

705
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,295
washing up.

706
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:37,415
APPLAUSE

707
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,495
So, I have been trying for years
to find the sweet spot

708
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,495
and, clearly, I have.

709
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,175
But I think the idea,
especially now more than ever, just

710
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,855
time, not too many ingredients,
in one vessel, less washing up,

711
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,455
cover all the bases.

712
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,935
Breakfast, brunch,
lunch, dinner, nibbles,

713
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,375
hangovers, hangover cures,
sorry, not hangovers.

714
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,735
Yeah, I mean, I'm still
plugging away, trying to be

715
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,055
useful.

716
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,575
And there are dishes for everyone.

717
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,935
Claudia, are you a flashy eater?

718
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,415
Claudia, are you a fussy eater?

719
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,455
I feel...

720
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,615
Can I just say this?

721
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,775
I am not just saying this
because I am sitting next to you,

722
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,495
your food is unbelievable
and I love your videos on Instagram,

723
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,095
even stuff that I am not sure.

724
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,495
Like, get an apple,
grate it, put it on some

725
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,535
meringue.

726
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,455
Whatever you do, I want to do it.

727
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,895
I'm not sure he's done that.

728
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,735
No, but you put up ribs this week me
and my husband were like, "Let's try

729
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,775
and do that."

730
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,175
But I don't believe in aubergine.

731
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,415
Is there aubergine in there?

732
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,455
Yes, yes.

733
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,855
It is one of my favourites.

734
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,935
Feast your eyes.

735
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,975
What is that?

736
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,015
Hasselback aubergine pie.

737
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,015
Yeah, man.

738
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,055
No, guys, no.

739
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,255
Britain has a bad
relationship with aubergines,

740
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,095
we don't really understand
the beauty that is within them.

741
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,495
My job is to give you
basically about 80%

742
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,215
of what you want and about 20% of
what you didn't know you wanted yet.

743
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,295
And aubergine is
definitely in that camp.

744
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,135
But it is amazing.

745
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,495
You don't just have
to have it fried, it can

746
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:05,575
be really soft and steamy.

747
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,855
Mulchy.

748
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,495
Yes, you can make it tender,
you can make it crisp.

749
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,895
The fact that it both
happens at the same time,

750
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,935
fleshy but also hard.

751
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,495
Urgh.

752
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,935
I don't accept it.

753
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,015
But one pan is genius.

754
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,895
Kristin are you like
a cordon bleu French

755
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,975
chef?

756
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,175
No, no, no, but I do love to cook.

757
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,415
I do love to cook...

758
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,855
French food.

759
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,415
Yes, I do like to cook French food
but I find it very difficult to

760
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,535
want to cook here.

761
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,535
Why?

762
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,895
What happened?

763
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,335
Because I can't, I don't
like going to a farmer's market

764
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,415
because market is obviously
a farmer, right.

765
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,335
So you have to go
to the supermarket.

766
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,015
Is it the name that annoys you?

767
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,295
Yes, it does.

768
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,695
You wouldn't say, "I'm going to this
really nice, industrial

769
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,455
market," would you?

770
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,375
There are some amazing
markets here, though.

771
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,775
I can't find anything that
doesn't come in a packet.

772
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,815
The plastic a problem.

773
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,895
The plastic is a real problem
and now with no sell by date

774
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,055
but you can't actually get
to what you are buying with no sell

775
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,095
by date so you don't know that it
has

776
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,935
completely had it when you get it
home and you open it, so it is a

777
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,975
sort of...

778
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,135
I feel a campaign coming.

779
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,095
I feel a campaign coming.

780
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,095
Weirdly, isn't it funny
how things change?

781
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,215
I had forgotten that in 2008
we all saw you, George, eating all

782
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,375
sorts on I'm A Celebrity.

783
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,215
I'd forgotten you were
in I'm A Celebrity.

784
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,295
You were top three.

785
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,295
There you are.

786
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,255
I don't know what you
are eating there.

787
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,935
You liked some of it, didn't you?

788
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,975
Oh, yes, insects.

789
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,135
They are delicious.

790
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,735
They were alive, skittering about.

791
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,095
That's awful.

792
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,255
So the challenging part
was catching them and

793
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,295
in your mouth you start chewing
right

794
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,575
away and it's crunchy and not like.

795
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,975
Cockroaches, Grasshoppers.

796
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,215
Fresh enough for you, Kristin?

797
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,975
No packaging there.

798
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,055
The French are venturesome eaters.

799
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,815
Who would think of
eating frogs' legs?

800
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,535
Or all the other things...

801
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,895
Snails, delicious.

802
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,535
If you love French food,
you have to be venturesome.

803
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,975
In the jungles we had to be
venturesome to survive.

804
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,615
That's my line, I couldn't do that.

805
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,095
I couldn't do it.

806
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,095
You couldn?

807
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,175
No.

808
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:29,575
Oh, we are going to eat
a kangaroo's Venus.

809
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,575
Oh, we are going to eat
a kangaroo's penis.

810
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,815
You are right about that.

811
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,095
I did it.

812
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,095
Has anyone actually thrown up yet?
Yes, as you said it I had a memory.

813
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,055
And also we could probably eat
kangaroo penis but you need to

814
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,375
do something like so take it
in garlic or something.

815
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,895
Yes, put it in one pan.

816
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,775
There is nothing more tasteless
than kangaroo penis.

817
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,815
There no taste.

818
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,415
You have had a lot of experience.

819
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,775
It's leathery and thick
and you've got to chew it.

820
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,215
It sort of a relief to know
it's tasteless, though.

821
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,415
They could have like slow
cooked it or something.

822
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,415
Slow cooked it?

823
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,295
Well, it's a lot
of chewing, isn't it?

824
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,735
But there is no flavour to it.
You have to add garlic.

825
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,495
It helps, definitely with the penis.

826
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,255
Sometimes.
Say that again.

827
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,655
It helps with the penis.

828
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,415
<i>Oh. m'!-</i>

829
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:27,735
APPLAUSE.

830
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,055
And, Jamie, we must mention your
extraordinary campaigning, the

831
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,695
and are you one of the very few
people who met

832
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:35,735
Prime Minister Liz Truss?

833
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:41,095
No, no.

834
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,295
No, no, I knew it would
be a quick innings.

835
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,655
I could feel it in my,
you know, in my heart.

836
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,055
No, I didn't, but we kind of knew it
wasn't going to be great

837
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,175
for child health because we had been
tracking her for about three years

838
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,215
and we kind of know they move around
quite a lot in their jobs so I knew

839
00:35:58,240 --> 00:35:59,455
it wasn't going to last very long.

840
00:35:59,480 --> 00:35:59,735
She did

841
00:35:59,760 --> 00:35:59,935
beat

842
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:00,175
rnY

843
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,975
expectations.

844
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,215
As

845
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:04,375
<i>WE</i>

846
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:04,575
She did beat my expectations. As we
head

847
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:04,815
She did beat my expectations. As we
head towards

848
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,015
the

849
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,175
Christmas

850
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,255
school

851
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:07,415
head towards the Christmas school
holidays,

852
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:07,535
what

853
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:07,815
6P6

854
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:07,975
<i>'Nu</i>

855
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,215
hoping

856
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:09,615
<i>"by?</i>

857
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:09,855
Holidays, what are you hoping for?
We

858
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,055
have

859
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,175
El

860
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,455
campaign

861
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:10,615
at

862
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,335
the

863
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,255
moment

864
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:12,615
We have a campaign at the moment
where

865
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:12,815
there

866
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,055
I?

867
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:13,255
El

868
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,415
gap

869
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:13,895
between

870
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,015
the

871
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,295
where there is a gap between the
free

872
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:14,455
school

873
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:14,695
lunch

874
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:14,815
kids

875
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,095
and

876
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:15,255
the

877
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:15,455
free school lunch kids and the
Universal

878
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,375
Credit

879
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,615
kids,

880
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,335
it's

881
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:18,455
about

882
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:18,735
Universal Credit kids, it's about
800,000

883
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,295
children.

884
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:21,975
TheY

885
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,175
are

886
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,375
from

887
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:22,655
<i>WY'!</i>

888
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:22,815
800,000 children. They are from very
chaflenged

889
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,655
families

890
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:23,855
financially

891
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,255
and

892
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,375
challenged families financially and
they

893
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:24,575
are

894
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,055
<i>WY'!</i>

895
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,215
Vulnerable

896
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:25,375
and

897
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:25,655
I

898
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:25,895
have

899
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,055
they are very vulnerable and I have
seen

900
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:26,255
it

901
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,415
and

902
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:26,615
I

903
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:26,815
have

904
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,455
worked

905
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:27,815
<i>if'</i>

906
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,055
it

907
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,335
and

908
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:28,455
seen it and I have worked in it and
I

909
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:28,655
have

910
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:28,855
been

911
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,055
concerned

912
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,255
for

913
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:29,455
17

914
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:29,695
years

915
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:29,855
I have been concerned for 17 years
and

916
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,015
it

917
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:30,255
I?

918
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:30,455
Hard

919
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:30,655
to

920
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,175
take

921
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,735
when

922
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:32,935
<i>'Nu</i>

923
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,135
see

924
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:33,455
and it is hard to take when you see
it.

925
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:33,655
We

926
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,455
have

927
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:34,655
recognised

928
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:34,855
it

929
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:35,055
for

930
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,295
about

931
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,455
it. We have recognised it for about
four

932
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:35,735
years

933
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,135
and

934
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:36,295
<i>BS</i>

935
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:36,535
we

936
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:36,695
S10

937
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:36,935
into

938
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,175
winter

939
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:37,335
four years and as we go into winter
and

940
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:37,535
the

941
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:37,695
cost

942
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:37,935
of

943
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,175
living,

944
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:39,815
I

945
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,015
think

946
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,255
we

947
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:40,415
and the cost of living, I think we
have

948
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:40,575
to

949
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:40,735
fix

950
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,295
it

951
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,535
and

952
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:41,735
no

953
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:41,855
one

954
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,095
wants

955
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,335
to

956
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:42,455
have to fix it and no one wants to
fix

957
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:42,655
it

958
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:42,855
because

959
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,095
there

960
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:43,295
are

961
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:43,495
El

962
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:43,695
lot

963
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:43,935
of

964
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,415
fix it because there are a lot of
problems.

965
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:44,615
But

966
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:44,815
one

967
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,015
it

968
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,215
comes

969
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:47,495
to

970
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:47,895
kids

971
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,055
problems. But one it comes to kids
and

972
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,255
how

973
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:48,415
we

974
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:48,695
treat

975
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:48,855
them

976
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,015
and

977
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,295
how

978
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:49,455
and how we treat them and how
society

979
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,175
treats

980
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,655
them,

981
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:51,815
there

982
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,295
I?

983
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:52,695
limits

984
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:52,855
society treats them, there is limits
and

985
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,375
I

986
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:53,855
think

987
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,055
this

988
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:54,295
I?

989
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:54,455
One.

990
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:54,655
We

991
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,335
do

992
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,215
and I think this is one. We do
befieve

993
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:56,495
it

994
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:56,695
I?

995
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:56,935
Really

996
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,295
important.

997
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:57,575
It

998
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:57,695
believe it is really important. It
is

999
00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:58,055
rea lly

1000
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,335
important

1001
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:58,535
and

1002
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:58,735
900d

1003
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:58,975
luck

1004
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,055
is really important and good luck
with

1005
00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,375
the

1006
00:36:59,400 --> 00:36:59,615
HGW

1007
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,255
book.

1008
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:02,815
It

1009
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,015
<i>if</i>

1010
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,255
out

1011
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:03,495
HOW.

1012
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:03,775
With the new book. It is out now.
Jamie

1013
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,015
Oliver,

1014
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:10,175
everybody.

1015
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:10,415
Jamie Oliver, everybody. OK,

1016
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:10,615
Jamie Oliver, everybody. OK, it

1017
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:10,855
<i>if</i>

1018
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,055
Jamie Oliver, everybody. OK, it is
time

1019
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,815
Jamie Oliver, everybody. OK, it is
time for

1020
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,335
music

1021
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:13,535
and

1022
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:13,695
the

1023
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:13,975
soulful

1024
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:14,215
time for music and the soulful
Swedish

1025
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:14,615
sisters

1026
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:14,855
6P6

1027
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,055
back

1028
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,255
after

1029
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:15,455
five

1030
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:15,655
Swedish sisters are back after five
years

1031
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:15,815
with

1032
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,055
a

1033
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:16,175
stunning

1034
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,215
HGW

1035
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:19,775
album,

1036
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,015
years with a stunning new album,
Palomino,

1037
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,255
and

1038
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:20,455
performing

1039
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:20,655
title

1040
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:20,855
out

1041
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,055
Palomino, and performing title out
of

1042
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,895
rrlY

1043
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,095
head,

1044
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:24,375
it

1045
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:24,615
<i>if</i>

1046
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:24,815
First

1047
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,015
Aid

1048
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:30,895
Kit.

1049
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,975
# Back in time, oh, I go wandering

1050
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,535
# Through the rooms of my mind

1051
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,615
# Every door that I've been closing

1052
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,615
# All the people
that I have let down

1053
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:53,735
# On a river, I'm
floating down the stream

1054
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,775
# And back again

1055
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:02,415
# Like a beggar on my knees

1056
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,695
# Am I running out of time

1057
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,375
# Stuck inside my dreaming

1058
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,375
# Falling behind

1059
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,135
# Running on low

1060
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,215
# Does it matter now

1061
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:19,695
# Let me out, out of my mind

1062
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:26,655
# Out of my head, oh, oh

1063
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,735
# Words hung heavy upon my shoulders

1064
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,015
# Slowly drowning in the sound

1065
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,855
# Every door just flew open

1066
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:49,015
# Praying I'd stay
tethered to the ground

1067
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,215
# On a river, I'm
floating down the stream

1068
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,175
# And back again

1069
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,175
# Like a prisoner set me free

1070
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,495
# Am I running out of time

1071
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,495
# Stuck inside my dreaming

1072
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,495
# Falling behind

1073
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,495
# Running on low

1074
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,775
# Does it matter now

1075
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,455
# Let me out, out of my mind

1076
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:23,015
# Out of my head, oh, oh

1077
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:33,975
# Out of my head, out of my mind

1078
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,455
# On a river, I'm
floating down the stream

1079
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,975
# And back again

1080
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,935
# Like a beggar on my knees

1081
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,695
# Am I running out of time

1082
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,575
# All my dreaming

1083
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,975
# All my trials

1084
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,655
# Where they'll lead

1085
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,615
# Does it matter now

1086
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:06,215
# Let me out, out of my mind

1087
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,415
# Stuck inside my dreaming

1088
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,295
# Falling behind

1089
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,815
# Running on low

1090
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,455
# Does it matter now

1091
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,495
# Let me out, out of my mind

1092
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,575
# Out of my head, oh, oh

1093
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:29,575
# Out of my head, out of my mind

1094
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,015
# Out of my head, oh, oh

1095
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:50,015
# Out of my head, oh, oh #.

1096
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,735
# Out of my head, oh, oh #.

1097
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:02,335
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1098
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,895
Gorgeous!

1099
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,695
First Aid Kit, everybody!

1100
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:10,015
How beautiful was that?

1101
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,175
Kiara, Johanna, come
on over, join us, do.

1102
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,695
And big up the rest
of the band as well.

1103
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:18,495
Come on over.

1104
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,855
Thank you so much,
that was beautiful.

1105
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,015
Come in, have a sit down,
there is champagne

1106
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,095
ready for you.

1107
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,135
Hello, hello, hello.

1108
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,175
Sit down, champagne.

1109
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,655
Make yourselves at home.

1110
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,215
Oh, thank you so much.

1111
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,415
There is room for all.

1112
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,855
Thank you so much for that.

1113
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,895
Yes, cheers.

1114
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:34,935
Cheers, ladies.

1115
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,175
Beautiful, absently gorgeous.

1116
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,735
That is from the new
album, Palomino.

1117
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,215
There you are, and there
you are with some horses.

1118
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:43,215
Palomino.

1119
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:45,095
So are you both big fans of horses?

1120
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,135
No.

1121
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,695
I'm terrified, to be honest.

1122
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:51,855
I mean, we like them from afar.

1123
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,535
But that's you right beside a horse.

1124
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,735
Yeah, but I was terrified.

1125
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,255
Yeah, she was.

1126
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,935
We're by a cliff with
aggressive horses.

1127
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,015
No, they weren't aggressive.

1128
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,455
They were.

1129
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,175
Yeah, I know you were really scared.

1130
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,055
Why did you choose to call it
Palomino and then pose with

1131
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,095
horses?

1132
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,735
Yeah, and they're not
even palomino horses.

1133
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,455
Yeah, I wasn't going to say that.

1134
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,495
I wasn't...

1135
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,695
going to push it further.

1136
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,575
No, they're not, they're
just some random horses.

1137
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,655
I know, I know.

1138
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,855
But well done for your
art, for your art.

1139
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,295
Thank you.

1140
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,815
Because, Kristin,
people think you like

1141
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,655
horses, why do people
think you like horses?

1142
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,735
I can't stand horses.

1143
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,735
I'm with you.

1144
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,495
No, because when I was, yes,
a younger woman, along with

1145
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,735
champagne and cigarettes, I got
a lot of horses to ride in films.

1146
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,975
One very, very good film called
the Horse Whisperer.

1147
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,735
Ancl as I signed the contract,
I thought, oh, God, I

1148
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,695
might have to ride a horse.

1149
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,015
Yeah, chances are, yeah!

1150
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,335
Yeah.

1151
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,455
Actually, I really
enjoyed that part.

1152
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,215
I liked riding horses in America.

1153
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:49,415
Is it easier in America?

1154
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,895
Yes, it is.

1155
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,935
Is it really?

1156
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,455
Yeah, Western style.

1157
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,935
Yeah.

1158
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,335
You have a big saddle
and you have huge stirrups.

1159
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,375
Yeah.

1160
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,575
Try horses in America,
you'd love it there, yeah!

1161
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,975
OK, so you don't like
horses, but I know that

1162
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,375
you really love dogs.

1163
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,895
So who owns this little guy?

1164
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,255
That's my baby.

1165
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,455
That's Pablo.

1166
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,815
Pablo?

1167
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,255
Yeah.

1168
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,255
He's a Spanish street dog.

1169
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,695
He is new in your life?

1170
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,375
I've had him for about four years.

1171
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,415
Oh, OK.

1172
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,335
So how did you get him from Spain?

1173
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,535
I found him on Facebook.

1174
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,535
<i>And...</i>

1175
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:29,815
Did he just friend you randomly?

1176
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,935
No, this was the picture,
and it said, "I'm so

1177
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,815
ugly, nobody wants me."

1178
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,175
Ancl then it was clone,
I had to have him.

1179
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,335
Ancl I think he's the most
beautiful little man.

1180
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,375
He is gorgeous.

1181
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,855
Is there something wrong with him?

1182
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,935
LAUGHTER

1183
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:45,935
Yes, there is.

1184
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,095
I call him El Diablo.

1185
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,175
Yes.

1186
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,935
Pablo Diablo, yes.

1187
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,655
He's not a nice dog.

1188
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,655
He's nice to me.

1189
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,295
He loves you.

1190
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,695
He loves the people he knows.

1191
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,215
But he's scared of strangers.

1192
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:04,055
Ancl probably for, you know,
reasonable reasons.

1193
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,255
Yes, he's probably had
some stuff go on, yeah.

1194
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,295
Yes, yes.

1195
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,335
Fair enough.

1196
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,175
Yes.

1197
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,495
So Pablo must be missing you,
because you're on tour

1198
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,575
right now, aren't you?

1199
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,295
Yeah, yeah.

1200
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,335
Aw!

1201
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,575
I miss him.

1202
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,615
So how long...

1203
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,015
ls the tour just here
or are you going other

1204
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,055
Places?

1205
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,495
Yes, just the UK right now.

1206
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,535
Yeah.

1207
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:32,535
OK.

1208
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,975
And I'm not going to talk about it
because I think it's all sold

1209
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,935
out, isn't it?

1210
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,015
Pretty much.

1211
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,735
There's a few tickets
left, in Cardiff.

1212
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,775
Yeah, Cardiff.

1213
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,815
Stupid Cardiff!

1214
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,455
They're all going to the Star Trek
convention, that's the problem.

1215
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,895
May you live long and prosper.

1216
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,895
LAUGHTER

1217
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,495
Well, listen, good look
with the rest of the tour and,

1218
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,775
come on, Cardiff, sell out!

1219
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,375
Thank you so much for that gorgeous
performance, Johanna and Kiara.

1220
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,455
First Aid Kit, everybody!

1221
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,495
Yeah!

1222
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,535
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1223
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,495
Right, that's nearly it.

1224
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,455
We've got just time for a visit
to the big red chair.

1225
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,815
This is your favourite
part of the show, I know.

1226
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,735
I have a sort of vague memory
of something being really repulsive,

1227
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,775
something really repulsive.

1228
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,815
Really?

1229
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,855
That sounds so unlikely!

1230
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,895
It's amazing.

1231
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,575
I find the whole thing
really perplexing.

1232
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,735
The whole idea of coming...

1233
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,815
Anyway.
Yeah.

1234
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,295
LAUGHTER

1235
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,975
No, but sometimes,
they have brilliant stories.

1236
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,895
OK.

1237
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,655
Ancl they're so nervous
about being flipped,

1238
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,575
and they're not flipped,
and it's somehow magical.

1239
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,775
All right, Claudia, I hope...

1240
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,175
I hope this doesn't disappoint you.

1241
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,255
Here we go.

1242
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,295
Hello!

1243
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,335
Hello.

1244
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,415
I have high hopes.

1245
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,455
What's your name?

1246
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,495
I'm Sue.

1247
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,535
Sue, lovely, Sue.

1248
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,975
And where do you live, Sue?

1249
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,015
Sutton Cold field.

1250
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,215
Oh, Sutton Cold field!

1251
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:42,575
Home of the anecdote!

1252
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,655
And what do you do in
Sutton Cold field, Sue?

1253
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,695
Errn, I'm...

1254
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:50,695
ls your name Sue?

1255
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,495
Yes, it is Sue, yep.

1256
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,735
Oh, good.

1257
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,255
LAUGHTER

1258
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,935
I'm a health and safety lawyer.
Oh!

1259
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,015
Ooh!

1260
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,655
Come on, Sue, give us the dirt!

1261
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,175
You know why she's here?

1262
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,615
It's a lawsuit waiting to happen!

1263
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,015
Are you wearing a neck brace?

1264
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,455
You're not going to get flipped!

1265
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,495
LAUGHTER

1266
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,655
OK, off you go with your story, Sue.

1267
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,335
Well, this was a few years ago.

1268
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,215
I went on holiday with the family
and we decided to go to a water park

1269
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:16,655
for the day with the kids.

1270
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:17,815
Good start.

1271
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,935
And, er, as soon as you walk in,
there's these great big drop

1272
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,095
slides in front of you,
and the kids immediately

1273
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,655
wanted to go on those.

1274
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,415
So, I thought, "OK.

1275
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,255
Better go now, before
the queues build up."

1276
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,935
But it took us about an hour to get
to the top of these slides

1277
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,615
and there were hundreds
of people around.

1278
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,855
It was just massive, massive queues.

1279
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,935
And I thought, "I've got to go first
because, otherwise, I'm

1280
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,415
just not going to do it."

1281
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,895
I had to psych myself out.

1282
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,775
So I'd read all the instructions,
obviously, and...

1283
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,855
LAUGHTER

1284
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:48,815
APPLAUSE

1285
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,735
I got to the top of the slide...

1286
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,415
and it said "cross your legs",
which I did, and "cross

1287
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,135
your arms," which I did.

1288
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,295
And the guide then said,
"Wait for my signal."

1289
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,295
<i>“OK?</i>

1290
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,455
And I am a big screamer
on the thrill rides, so he said...

1291
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,135
He said, "Right, wait for my signal.

1292
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,615
Gs!“

1293
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,455
And I shut my eyes and opened my
mouth, and I screamed

1294
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,655
at the top of my voice,
I was screaming.

1295
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,735
And I was absolutely
flying down this slide,

1296
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,255
it was so smooth and there
was water rushing down.

1297
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,135
And it was just
the most amazing ride.

1298
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,975
And as my scream came to an end,
as it petered out, I could hear this

1299
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,415
voice in my ear saying,
"Ma'am.

1300
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,455
Ma'am.

1301
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,335
You need to push off
if you want to enjoy this ride."

1302
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,335
LAUGHTER

1303
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,375
APPLAUSE

1304
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,615
Oh, you can walk, Sue.

1305
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,655
You can walk.

1306
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,895
Good, clean, family fun.

1307
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:43,375
Er, that really is
all we have time for.

1308
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,495
If you'd like to have a go
in that red chair yourself

1309
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,095
and tell your story,
you can contact us via our website

1310
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,295
at this very address.

1311
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,175
Please say a huge thank
you to all of my guests tonight.

1312
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,215
First Aid Kit!

1313
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:57,255
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1314
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,295
Jamie Oliver!

1315
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,335
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1316
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,375
Claudia Winkleman!

1317
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,415
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1318
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,455
<i>George Take“.!</i>

1319
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,495
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1320
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,495
And Kristin Scott Thomas!

1321
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,575
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

1322
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,735
join me next week,
with music from Olly Murs,

1323
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,415
comedian jack Whitehall,
celebrity baker Nadi ya Hussain,

1324
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,535
national treasure Sir Lenny Henry
and Oscar-winner Kate Winslet.

1325
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:12,535
I'll see you then!

1326
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,495
Goodnight, everybody!

1327
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,615
Bye-bye!

1328
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,295
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE