1 00:00:00,020 --> 00:00:02,060 (THEME MUSIC PLAYS) 2 00:00:17,860 --> 00:00:19,780 HAGAR COHEN: Behind this red door 3 00:00:19,780 --> 00:00:20,020 climate activists HAGAR COHEN: Behind this red door 4 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:24,380 climate activists are locked in tense deliberations. 5 00:00:24,380 --> 00:00:28,540 They're planning a protest they've never attempted before. 6 00:00:31,220 --> 00:00:34,660 There's no white smoke from the Vatican yet, I'm afraid, folks. 7 00:00:35,620 --> 00:00:38,700 And they fear the police know it. 8 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:40,180 An unmarked car, 9 00:00:40,180 --> 00:00:41,660 and two people got out 10 00:00:41,660 --> 00:00:41,900 and subsequently identified and two people got out 11 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:43,740 and subsequently identified themselves as police officers. 12 00:00:43,740 --> 00:00:43,980 and subsequently identified One of them had their gun drawn. 13 00:00:43,980 --> 00:00:45,060 One of them had their gun drawn. 14 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:50,860 They've decided to go for it. 15 00:00:50,860 --> 00:00:52,500 But there's a hitch. 16 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:54,140 Oh, no! 17 00:00:55,260 --> 00:00:57,900 I fucking locked myself out! 18 00:00:57,900 --> 00:00:59,100 Shit. 19 00:01:00,220 --> 00:01:01,500 Shit. (LAUGHS) 20 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:05,580 Holy shit. Thank you. I'm so, so, so sorry. 21 00:01:05,580 --> 00:01:08,300 I left my car key inside, and I locked myself out. 22 00:01:09,820 --> 00:01:12,460 The group Disrupt Burrup Hub 23 00:01:12,460 --> 00:01:12,700 is trying to stop one of Australia's The group Disrupt Burrup Hub 24 00:01:12,700 --> 00:01:17,660 is trying to stop one of Australia's biggest fossil-fuel projects. 25 00:01:17,660 --> 00:01:24,260 They see this as a crucial moment in the battle against climate change. 26 00:01:24,260 --> 00:01:27,380 Oh, my God. The adrenaline. It's, like, kicking in. 27 00:01:27,380 --> 00:01:31,220 Their target is the country's largest oil and gas company, 28 00:01:31,220 --> 00:01:31,460 Their target is the country's Woodside Energy. 29 00:01:31,460 --> 00:01:33,060 Woodside Energy. 30 00:01:33,060 --> 00:01:35,060 I'm getting, like, tunnel vision now. 31 00:01:37,260 --> 00:01:40,140 For what 19-year-old Tilda is about to do, 32 00:01:40,140 --> 00:01:40,380 For what 19-year-old Tilda she could go to prison. 33 00:01:40,380 --> 00:01:42,100 she could go to prison. 34 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:43,580 I'm picturing the run sheet. 35 00:01:43,580 --> 00:01:45,860 I'm just, like, 6 o'clock - playtime. 36 00:01:45,860 --> 00:01:47,100 6:01 - lights deploy. 37 00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:48,620 6:02... (LAUGHS) 38 00:01:49,580 --> 00:01:51,620 Love you guys. 39 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:52,940 Love you, Nick. 40 00:01:54,180 --> 00:01:55,940 You've so got this, Tilda. 41 00:01:55,940 --> 00:01:56,980 Yep. 42 00:01:57,940 --> 00:01:59,740 I've got this. 43 00:01:59,740 --> 00:02:01,660 I'm going to remember this day for the rest of my life. 44 00:02:01,660 --> 00:02:01,900 I'm going to remember this day Holy fucking shit. 45 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:03,180 Holy fucking shit. 46 00:02:04,260 --> 00:02:05,900 GERARD MAZZA: She's home. Yeah, she's home. 47 00:02:05,900 --> 00:02:06,140 GERARD MAZZA: She's home. Yep. Yep, yep, yep. 48 00:02:06,140 --> 00:02:07,900 Yep. Yep, yep, yep. 49 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:09,980 Alright, folks. 50 00:02:09,980 --> 00:02:10,220 This is the story Alright, folks. 51 00:02:10,220 --> 00:02:13,700 This is the story of the battle for the future 52 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:17,620 and the lengths all sides will go to to win. 53 00:02:17,620 --> 00:02:17,860 and the lengths all sides will go to Nick, can you grab that bucket? 54 00:02:17,860 --> 00:02:19,620 Nick, can you grab that bucket? 55 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:20,940 Bucket? 56 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:24,900 POLICE: Police! Don't move! 57 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:28,940 Do not move! 58 00:02:30,220 --> 00:02:32,580 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 59 00:02:48,740 --> 00:02:50,580 This is Murujuga, 60 00:02:50,580 --> 00:02:50,780 1,500 kilometres north of Perth. This is Murujuga, 61 00:02:50,780 --> 00:02:53,220 1,500 kilometres north of Perth. 62 00:02:53,220 --> 00:02:55,260 It's beautiful here. 63 00:02:55,260 --> 00:02:57,020 And in the rocks around me 64 00:02:57,020 --> 00:02:57,260 And in the rocks around me there are over one million Aboriginal rock-art images, 65 00:02:57,260 --> 00:03:01,220 there are over one million Aboriginal rock-art images, 66 00:03:01,220 --> 00:03:04,540 some of them created 45,000 years ago. 67 00:03:04,540 --> 00:03:07,700 It's also the epicentre of a raging battle 68 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:11,020 between climate activists and Woodside. 69 00:03:21,060 --> 00:03:23,260 Murujuga, or the Burrup, 70 00:03:23,260 --> 00:03:26,140 is critical to Woodside's viability. 71 00:03:26,140 --> 00:03:30,660 Two vast gas plants, Karratha and Pluto, 72 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:34,940 turn tens of millions of tonnes of gas into liquid 73 00:03:34,940 --> 00:03:36,460 every year, 74 00:03:36,460 --> 00:03:38,500 and huge profits. 75 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:38,700 They're fed by offshore gas fields, and huge profits. 76 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:41,260 They're fed by offshore gas fields, 77 00:03:41,260 --> 00:03:42,980 which are running out. 78 00:03:44,420 --> 00:03:46,180 Woodside's solution, 79 00:03:46,180 --> 00:03:46,420 Woodside's solution, supported by the WA Government, 80 00:03:46,420 --> 00:03:48,380 supported by the WA Government, 81 00:03:48,380 --> 00:03:50,620 is a massive expansion. 82 00:03:54,820 --> 00:03:58,780 (CLINTON WALKER SPEAKS IN LANGUAGE) 83 00:04:00,260 --> 00:04:05,180 (CONTINUES SPEAKING IN LANGUAGE) 84 00:04:05,180 --> 00:04:10,260 Ngarluma man Clinton Walker is proud of his country. 85 00:04:10,260 --> 00:04:10,500 Ngarluma man Clinton Walker So, the dingoes came... 86 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:11,620 So, the dingoes came... 87 00:04:11,620 --> 00:04:11,860 It's home to one of the most So, the dingoes came... 88 00:04:11,860 --> 00:04:15,660 It's home to one of the most significant collections of rock art 89 00:04:15,660 --> 00:04:15,900 It's home to one of the most in the world. 90 00:04:15,900 --> 00:04:17,900 in the world. 91 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:23,700 But that spotted kangaroo there with the short, thick tail 92 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:25,420 is one of the megafauna kangaroos 93 00:04:25,420 --> 00:04:28,900 that grew, you know, up to three, three and a half metres tall. 94 00:04:28,900 --> 00:04:29,140 that grew, you know, up to So, it was a big, BIG kangaroo. 95 00:04:29,140 --> 00:04:30,580 So, it was a big, BIG kangaroo. 96 00:04:30,580 --> 00:04:31,860 Wow. 97 00:04:37,980 --> 00:04:42,620 Clinton takes me to another site overlooking industry. 98 00:04:42,620 --> 00:04:42,860 Clinton takes me to another site And you can see how close 99 00:04:42,860 --> 00:04:44,620 And you can see how close 100 00:04:44,620 --> 00:04:48,260 all this rock art is to that plant over there. 101 00:04:48,260 --> 00:04:49,500 And who owns it? 102 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:53,260 Yeah, so, over here we've got the Karratha Gas Plant. 103 00:04:53,260 --> 00:04:53,500 Yeah, so, over here It's operated by Woodside 104 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:56,340 It's operated by Woodside 105 00:04:56,340 --> 00:05:02,060 and it's owned by Woodside, BP, Shell, Chevron 106 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:04,100 and a Japanese company called MIMI. 107 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:08,820 And they're producing LNG - liquefied natural gas. 108 00:05:10,980 --> 00:05:15,900 Many in Clinton's community have mixed feelings about Woodside. 109 00:05:16,820 --> 00:05:20,220 Now, our concern as a people is the emissions, 110 00:05:20,220 --> 00:05:25,140 whether that's going to have an impact over the coming years 111 00:05:25,140 --> 00:05:28,660 and could eventually erode all of the rock art away. 112 00:05:28,660 --> 00:05:29,420 And if that happens... 113 00:05:29,420 --> 00:05:32,860 Another Traditional Owner recently won a court challenge 114 00:05:32,860 --> 00:05:37,180 that has forced Woodside to delay part of its expansion. 115 00:05:37,180 --> 00:05:40,660 Woodside employs many in the community. 116 00:05:40,660 --> 00:05:42,060 Clinton worked there too. 117 00:05:43,380 --> 00:05:47,660 I was earning a really high wage working as an operator. 118 00:05:47,660 --> 00:05:49,420 You know, you're on 250 grand a year. 119 00:05:49,420 --> 00:05:49,660 You know, Wow. 120 00:05:49,660 --> 00:05:50,700 Wow. 121 00:05:50,700 --> 00:05:53,700 But, for an Aboriginal person, it's also difficult 122 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:55,540 because when we're working in those companies 123 00:05:55,540 --> 00:05:57,940 we've got to weigh up our connection to our country, 124 00:05:57,940 --> 00:06:01,780 our responsibility as Traditional Owners to look after country. 125 00:06:01,780 --> 00:06:02,020 our responsibility as Traditional And it's a honey trap 126 00:06:02,020 --> 00:06:03,380 And it's a honey trap 127 00:06:03,380 --> 00:06:05,740 because, like a bee, 128 00:06:05,740 --> 00:06:07,140 you go get the honey, 129 00:06:07,140 --> 00:06:10,100 but you get too much honey, you get stuck on there, you know, 130 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:10,340 but you get too much honey, and you can't move. 131 00:06:10,340 --> 00:06:11,780 and you can't move. 132 00:06:14,380 --> 00:06:17,460 If the expansion of the Burrup Hub goes ahead, 133 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:17,700 If the expansion of the Burrup Hub some estimates predict 134 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:19,300 some estimates predict 135 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:23,060 it will produce around six billion tonnes of emissions 136 00:06:23,060 --> 00:06:23,300 it will produce around over its lifetime. 137 00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:25,100 over its lifetime. 138 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:25,340 That would be the equivalent over its lifetime. 139 00:06:25,340 --> 00:06:30,300 That would be the equivalent of 24 coal-fired power stations 140 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:30,540 That would be the equivalent operating for 50 years. 141 00:06:30,540 --> 00:06:32,580 operating for 50 years. 142 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:35,820 ALEX HILLMAN: When I say I can't think 143 00:06:35,820 --> 00:06:38,900 of a bigger climate-change decision an Australian will ever make... 144 00:06:39,860 --> 00:06:41,580 ..like, that's a sincere opinion. 145 00:06:41,580 --> 00:06:43,260 It's massive. 146 00:06:45,660 --> 00:06:48,580 Woodside believes the project is crucial 147 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:48,820 Woodside believes for our transition to net zero. 148 00:06:48,820 --> 00:06:51,300 for our transition to net zero. 149 00:06:52,260 --> 00:06:54,300 MEG O'NEILL: When used to generate electricity, 150 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:58,420 natural gas emits around half the life cycle emissions of coal. 151 00:06:58,420 --> 00:06:58,660 As the Prime Minister has said, natural gas emits around half the life cycle emissions of coal. 152 00:06:58,660 --> 00:07:00,260 As the Prime Minister has said, 153 00:07:00,260 --> 00:07:00,500 it smooths the transition As the Prime Minister has said, 154 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:03,660 it smooths the transition to renewables. 155 00:07:04,620 --> 00:07:08,900 Others believe the future of our planet is at stake. 156 00:07:10,020 --> 00:07:14,020 The UN says relying on gas or fossil fuels 157 00:07:14,020 --> 00:07:14,260 The UN says will lead to a climate catastrophe. 158 00:07:14,260 --> 00:07:16,500 will lead to a climate catastrophe. 159 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:18,260 Very good morning. 160 00:07:18,260 --> 00:07:19,740 It is still possible 161 00:07:19,740 --> 00:07:19,980 to avoid the very worst of climate change, It is still possible 162 00:07:19,980 --> 00:07:22,540 to avoid the very worst of climate change, 163 00:07:22,540 --> 00:07:26,380 but only with dramatic, immediate climate action. 164 00:07:28,700 --> 00:07:30,340 The solution is clear. 165 00:07:30,340 --> 00:07:30,580 End licensing or funding The solution is clear. 166 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:34,220 End licensing or funding of new oil and gas, 167 00:07:34,220 --> 00:07:37,820 stopping the expansion of existing oil and gas reserves... 168 00:07:39,420 --> 00:07:42,460 ..and supporting the just transition 169 00:07:42,460 --> 00:07:42,700 of the impacted ..and supporting the just transition 170 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:45,740 of the impacted developing countries. 171 00:07:45,740 --> 00:07:45,980 of the impacted (INDISTINCT YELLING) 172 00:07:45,980 --> 00:07:47,420 (INDISTINCT YELLING) 173 00:07:47,420 --> 00:07:48,860 In response to this, 174 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:52,620 Disrupt Burrup Hub has escalated their campaign, 175 00:07:52,620 --> 00:07:55,020 from invading a football pitch 176 00:07:55,020 --> 00:07:57,980 and graffitiing artwork 177 00:07:57,980 --> 00:08:00,380 to letting off a stink bomb. 178 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:02,780 Disrupt Burrup Hub! 179 00:08:02,780 --> 00:08:05,020 (SIREN WAILS) We protest 180 00:08:05,020 --> 00:08:08,100 against what is being done! 181 00:08:15,540 --> 00:08:18,180 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 182 00:08:18,180 --> 00:08:18,420 This is the unexpected centre (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 183 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:22,500 This is the unexpected centre of civil disobedience 184 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:22,740 This is the unexpected centre in Western Australia. 185 00:08:22,740 --> 00:08:24,500 in Western Australia. 186 00:08:25,460 --> 00:08:27,460 Gathered here are protesters 187 00:08:27,460 --> 00:08:31,980 with a local branch of the climate activist group Extinction Rebellion. 188 00:08:31,980 --> 00:08:33,340 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 189 00:08:33,340 --> 00:08:33,580 Their protests are sometimes illegal. (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 190 00:08:33,580 --> 00:08:36,860 Their protests are sometimes illegal. 191 00:08:36,860 --> 00:08:37,140 Their protests are sometimes illegal. I'm not your typical criminal, though. 192 00:08:37,140 --> 00:08:39,180 I'm not your typical criminal, though. 193 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:41,500 Your typical criminal doesn't sit around waiting to get arrested 194 00:08:41,500 --> 00:08:43,500 and your typical criminal doesn't tip off the media 195 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:43,740 and your typical criminal just before they start an action. 196 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:45,300 just before they start an action. 197 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:45,540 And your typical criminal just before they start an action. 198 00:08:45,540 --> 00:08:50,100 And your typical criminal might even have some remorse. 199 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:50,340 And your typical criminal For us, climate is such a... 200 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:54,820 For us, climate is such a... 201 00:08:54,820 --> 00:08:56,300 ..strong issue. 202 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:58,500 It's existential crisis, 203 00:08:58,500 --> 00:08:59,780 all these things that it's... 204 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:02,460 ..that if we DON'T do something, 205 00:09:02,460 --> 00:09:04,060 THEN we are criminals. 206 00:09:04,060 --> 00:09:08,500 (INDISTINCT CHANTING) 207 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:11,380 Extinction Rebellion started in the UK 208 00:09:11,380 --> 00:09:14,900 and changed the face of the climate movement. 209 00:09:20,460 --> 00:09:25,620 They're famously known for shutting down London for four days. 210 00:09:25,620 --> 00:09:27,860 (CHEERING) 211 00:09:27,860 --> 00:09:29,020 (INDISTINCT CHANTING) 212 00:09:29,020 --> 00:09:31,140 Anyone that does not wish to be arrested... 213 00:09:31,140 --> 00:09:35,980 Extinction Rebellion was imported to Australia in 2019 214 00:09:35,980 --> 00:09:39,140 and quickly spread, with branches all over the country. 215 00:09:39,140 --> 00:09:39,380 and quickly spread, (INDISTINCT YELLING) 216 00:09:39,380 --> 00:09:41,980 (INDISTINCT YELLING) 217 00:09:41,980 --> 00:09:44,900 We're in a climate emergency! 218 00:09:45,860 --> 00:09:47,300 Thank you. Come in. 219 00:09:49,460 --> 00:09:50,420 Nice. 220 00:09:50,420 --> 00:09:50,660 Yeah. Nice. 221 00:09:50,660 --> 00:09:51,420 Yeah. Yeah. 222 00:09:51,420 --> 00:09:54,500 Yeah, this is a space for us to meet, a space for us to socialise, 223 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:54,740 Yeah, this is a space for us to a space for us to keep our things. 224 00:09:54,740 --> 00:09:56,020 a space for us to keep our things. 225 00:09:56,020 --> 00:09:57,740 Carmen Stobus 226 00:09:57,740 --> 00:09:57,980 is one of Extinction Rebellion's Carmen Stobus 227 00:09:57,980 --> 00:10:03,100 is one of Extinction Rebellion's staunch frontline protesters. 228 00:10:03,100 --> 00:10:05,620 And which... Are you here in this picture? 229 00:10:05,620 --> 00:10:07,980 Yeah, I'm the third protester back in the picture. 230 00:10:07,980 --> 00:10:10,140 So, this one just here. Yeah, that's me. 231 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:12,140 OK. Did you get arrested for that one? 232 00:10:12,140 --> 00:10:12,380 OK. Uh... No. 233 00:10:12,380 --> 00:10:13,340 Uh... No. 234 00:10:13,340 --> 00:10:15,620 Nope. We got a move-on notice. Yep. 235 00:10:15,620 --> 00:10:17,420 But we'd finished the action by then, 236 00:10:17,420 --> 00:10:20,580 so, we cleaned up after ourselves and we went home. 237 00:10:20,580 --> 00:10:25,140 And that's kind of the experiences we'd been having with the police. 238 00:10:25,140 --> 00:10:29,420 It had been a respectful sort of relationship. 239 00:10:30,340 --> 00:10:34,060 Carmen was one of the first climate protesters 240 00:10:34,060 --> 00:10:38,300 to be targeted by WA's State Security Investigations Group, 241 00:10:38,300 --> 00:10:38,580 informally known as the state's counter-terrorism squad. to be targeted by WA's State Security Investigations Group, 242 00:10:38,580 --> 00:10:42,940 informally known as the state's counter-terrorism squad. 243 00:10:42,940 --> 00:10:46,700 They're usually deployed to deal with violent extremists 244 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:49,740 and threats to state and national security. 245 00:10:49,740 --> 00:10:54,540 But now they're targeting protesters in the climate movement. 246 00:10:57,540 --> 00:10:59,100 Two years ago 247 00:10:59,100 --> 00:10:59,340 Carmen and her group used chalk paint Two years ago 248 00:10:59,340 --> 00:11:03,980 Carmen and her group used chalk paint to spray anti-Woodside logos 249 00:11:03,980 --> 00:11:07,340 on a foot bridge next to the company's headquarters. 250 00:11:07,340 --> 00:11:07,580 on a foot bridge Oh, graffiti artists! Beauty! 251 00:11:07,580 --> 00:11:09,420 Oh, graffiti artists! Beauty! 252 00:11:10,380 --> 00:11:13,100 We sprayed until there was no footpath left to spray 253 00:11:13,100 --> 00:11:15,860 and went to a coffee shop and had a coffee together. 254 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:21,780 Two weeks later Carmen got a knock on the door. 255 00:11:22,740 --> 00:11:24,980 OFFICER: Right, it's on now. You right? 256 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:26,180 OK. 257 00:11:26,180 --> 00:11:27,180 Is this... 258 00:11:27,180 --> 00:11:28,900 Um... Sorry... This is legit or... 259 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:29,140 Um... Sorry... Yep. Yep. Just listen for a sec. 260 00:11:29,140 --> 00:11:30,900 Yep. Yep. Just listen for a sec. 261 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:32,420 Everything's being recorded, OK? 262 00:11:32,420 --> 00:11:32,660 Just to protect you and protect us. Everything's being recorded, OK? 263 00:11:32,660 --> 00:11:34,500 Just to protect you and protect us. Alright? 264 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:38,020 And we're here for the purpose of executing a CI search warrant. 265 00:11:38,020 --> 00:11:41,180 Can you please just introduce yourself, Carmen? 266 00:11:41,180 --> 00:11:41,420 Can you please My name is Carmen Stobus. 267 00:11:41,420 --> 00:11:43,020 My name is Carmen Stobus. 268 00:11:43,020 --> 00:11:43,260 Four armed State Security My name is Carmen Stobus. 269 00:11:43,260 --> 00:11:46,980 Four armed State Security Investigations officers 270 00:11:46,980 --> 00:11:47,220 Four armed State Security in bullet-proof vests 271 00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:48,820 in bullet-proof vests 272 00:11:48,820 --> 00:11:53,700 raided Carmen's house in front of her teenage daughters. 273 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:53,940 raided Carmen's house What I would like to do right now 274 00:11:53,940 --> 00:11:55,900 What I would like to do right now 275 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:56,140 is just to advise you that What I would like to do right now 276 00:11:56,140 --> 00:11:58,740 is just to advise you that you are being placed under arrest. 277 00:11:58,740 --> 00:11:58,980 is just to advise you that OK? 278 00:11:58,980 --> 00:11:59,780 OK? 279 00:11:59,780 --> 00:12:02,940 On suspicion only. On suspicion only of criminal damage. OK? 280 00:12:02,940 --> 00:12:03,180 On suspicion only. On suspicion only It's gonna upset my kids. 281 00:12:03,180 --> 00:12:05,700 It's gonna upset my kids. 282 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:07,740 On the risk assessment for the raid 283 00:12:07,740 --> 00:12:11,460 police classify Extinction Rebellion as a gang 284 00:12:11,460 --> 00:12:11,700 police classify Extinction Rebellion or organised criminal entity. 285 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:13,940 or organised criminal entity. 286 00:12:13,940 --> 00:12:16,020 But you're treating me like a terrorist. 287 00:12:16,020 --> 00:12:17,860 No, we just want to give you your rights. OK? 288 00:12:17,860 --> 00:12:18,100 No, we just want to give you So, carry on, please. 289 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:19,580 So, carry on, please. 290 00:12:19,580 --> 00:12:21,180 Officers from this unit, 291 00:12:21,180 --> 00:12:24,820 who are used to taking down violent extremists, 292 00:12:24,820 --> 00:12:28,740 are looking for paint used in two recent graffiti protests. 293 00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:28,980 are looking for paint Just up here is... 294 00:12:28,980 --> 00:12:30,980 Just up here is... 295 00:12:30,980 --> 00:12:33,020 ..is more paint, is it? 296 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:33,860 Mm-hm. 297 00:12:38,860 --> 00:12:41,540 Fabric and poster paint. 298 00:12:41,540 --> 00:12:42,700 Yeah. 299 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:42,940 And there's lots of different, Yeah. 300 00:12:42,940 --> 00:12:46,620 And there's lots of different, I guess, poster paint. 301 00:12:46,620 --> 00:12:46,860 And there's lots of different, Mm. 302 00:12:46,860 --> 00:12:47,660 Mm. 303 00:12:47,660 --> 00:12:49,140 Large amounts of it. 304 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:51,340 How is that large amounts? 305 00:12:51,340 --> 00:12:52,740 Yeah, oh... 306 00:12:55,380 --> 00:12:56,980 There's one poster paint 307 00:12:56,980 --> 00:12:59,660 and, like, one blue poster paint and one blue fabric paint. 308 00:13:00,660 --> 00:13:02,100 Is that large amounts? 309 00:13:02,100 --> 00:13:04,140 Oh, OK, I mean, there's a lot of bottles. 310 00:13:04,140 --> 00:13:04,380 Oh, OK, I mean, Yeah, they're all different colours. 311 00:13:04,380 --> 00:13:05,620 Yeah, they're all different colours. 312 00:13:05,620 --> 00:13:05,860 You need different colours. Yeah, they're all different colours. 313 00:13:05,860 --> 00:13:07,580 You need different colours. Oh. OK. Yep. Yep. 314 00:13:07,580 --> 00:13:11,220 The officers then approached Carmen's daughters. 315 00:13:11,220 --> 00:13:11,460 The officers Hello. Sorry. Sorry to wake you up. 316 00:13:11,460 --> 00:13:13,700 Hello. Sorry. Sorry to wake you up. 317 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:15,460 Um... Could I... 318 00:13:15,460 --> 00:13:15,700 Could I just get you to introduce Um... Could I... 319 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:18,780 Could I just get you to introduce yourself on camera, please? 320 00:13:18,780 --> 00:13:19,020 Could I just get you to introduce Um... I'm Melissa Butley. 321 00:13:19,020 --> 00:13:20,580 Um... I'm Melissa Butley. 322 00:13:20,580 --> 00:13:24,700 Sorry, would you mind introducing yourself on camera? 323 00:13:25,660 --> 00:13:28,220 Do you remember what Kaitlyn said? 324 00:13:28,220 --> 00:13:29,740 Uh... 325 00:13:29,740 --> 00:13:32,740 When the police officer asked her for her name? 326 00:13:33,700 --> 00:13:36,380 No. I can't remember what Kaitlyn said. 327 00:13:36,380 --> 00:13:36,620 No. I can't remember She said, "I'm terrified." 328 00:13:36,620 --> 00:13:38,180 She said, "I'm terrified." 329 00:13:38,180 --> 00:13:39,220 (CHOKES) 330 00:13:42,940 --> 00:13:46,780 Some of the charges against Carmen Stobus were dropped. 331 00:13:46,780 --> 00:13:49,820 She was found not guilty for the rest. 332 00:13:50,780 --> 00:13:54,100 We asked WA Police to explain the raid, 333 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:58,100 but Assistant Commissioner Jo McCabe couldn't answer our questions. 334 00:13:58,100 --> 00:14:01,220 And I can only assume, again, not knowing the detail, 335 00:14:01,220 --> 00:14:04,420 that there was justification for the search warrant. 336 00:14:04,420 --> 00:14:07,260 OK. But you can't tell me what that justification was? 337 00:14:07,260 --> 00:14:09,900 No. I don't know the case in particular. 338 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:10,140 No. I don't know the case (BIRDS TWITTER, TRAFFIC HUMS) 339 00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:13,220 (BIRDS TWITTER, TRAFFIC HUMS) 340 00:14:16,420 --> 00:14:17,900 (WHISPERS) Hey. 341 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:20,020 (CHUCKLES) 342 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:22,900 (WHISPERS) Hey. 343 00:14:22,900 --> 00:14:25,340 Mother-of-two Tahlia Stolarski 344 00:14:25,340 --> 00:14:28,140 is a member of the Disrupt Burrup Hub group 345 00:14:28,140 --> 00:14:31,460 that recently split from Extinction Rebellion. 346 00:14:31,460 --> 00:14:33,340 I've got to wake you up this morning. 347 00:14:33,340 --> 00:14:34,660 Normally you guys are up before me, aren't you? 348 00:14:34,660 --> 00:14:34,900 Normally you guys are up before me, She's facing the full force 349 00:14:34,900 --> 00:14:36,660 She's facing the full force 350 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:40,820 of the new police response to climate protesters in WA. 351 00:14:40,820 --> 00:14:41,060 of the new police response It's going to be super cold. 352 00:14:41,060 --> 00:14:42,820 It's going to be super cold. 353 00:14:42,820 --> 00:14:45,620 She's getting ready to go to court. 354 00:14:45,620 --> 00:14:48,020 Alright. Shoes. Bag. 355 00:14:48,020 --> 00:14:51,340 Um... Water bottles are on the table. 356 00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:51,580 Um... Water bottles What else? 357 00:14:51,580 --> 00:14:53,020 What else? 358 00:14:53,020 --> 00:14:54,740 I want to eat with you. 359 00:14:54,740 --> 00:14:55,900 With me? 360 00:14:55,900 --> 00:14:58,700 I don't know if there'll be time for me to eat too, but we'll try. 361 00:14:58,700 --> 00:15:00,740 I got you that doggie, Lily. 362 00:15:00,740 --> 00:15:02,700 Yeah. Oh, you're going to bring that as Toto? 363 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:05,660 She's charged with aggravated burglary 364 00:15:05,660 --> 00:15:11,500 for attempting to set off a stink bomb at Woodside's AGM in April. 365 00:15:12,460 --> 00:15:14,820 It's the most serious offence 366 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:19,500 any climate activist has ever been charged with in WA. 367 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:19,740 any climate activist Pop it in the bowl. Good girl. 368 00:15:19,740 --> 00:15:21,420 Pop it in the bowl. Good girl. 369 00:15:23,900 --> 00:15:24,940 Milk. 370 00:15:25,900 --> 00:15:27,900 Please. Please. 371 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:31,700 She's looking at up to 20 years in prison. 372 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:31,940 She's looking I'll put it over here. 373 00:15:31,940 --> 00:15:33,180 I'll put it over here. 374 00:15:33,180 --> 00:15:34,540 Good morning! Hi. 375 00:15:34,540 --> 00:15:34,780 Good morning! Hi. Hey, guys. 376 00:15:34,780 --> 00:15:36,420 Hi. Hey, guys. 377 00:15:36,420 --> 00:15:37,740 Hey. How are you doing? 378 00:15:37,740 --> 00:15:39,580 Good. How are you? Yeah, good. 379 00:15:39,580 --> 00:15:41,580 You ready? Yeah, sure. 380 00:15:41,580 --> 00:15:41,820 You ready? Gerard Mazza is also facing charges. 381 00:15:41,820 --> 00:15:45,020 Gerard Mazza is also facing charges. 382 00:15:45,020 --> 00:15:45,260 How much time do we have? Gerard Mazza is also facing charges. 383 00:15:45,260 --> 00:15:46,500 How much time do we have? 10 minutes. 384 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:48,100 I did clean the car. Great. 385 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:51,780 He's Disrupt Burrup Hub's main strategist. 386 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:54,340 Sweet. 387 00:15:54,340 --> 00:15:55,980 Yeah. 388 00:15:55,980 --> 00:15:57,580 I think my suspicion 389 00:15:57,580 --> 00:16:01,180 is that they're going to just start opposing bail for us 390 00:16:01,180 --> 00:16:04,300 as a matter of... you know, as the normal thing. 391 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:08,980 G'day. Hey. 392 00:16:08,980 --> 00:16:12,300 They're meeting the group's media advisor, Jesse Noakes. 393 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:12,540 They're meeting the group's He's also going to court today. 394 00:16:12,540 --> 00:16:15,020 He's also going to court today. 395 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:19,700 Against the backdrop of increased protest activity, 396 00:16:19,700 --> 00:16:21,180 our investigations found 397 00:16:21,180 --> 00:16:23,700 climate activists across the country 398 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:26,620 are being charged with serious offences 399 00:16:26,620 --> 00:16:26,860 are being charged in unprecedented numbers. 400 00:16:26,860 --> 00:16:28,740 in unprecedented numbers. 401 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:30,340 We tried to... 402 00:16:30,340 --> 00:16:33,060 Records kept by major activist groups 403 00:16:33,060 --> 00:16:38,100 show that since 2021 almost 100 of their members 404 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:41,820 have faced the threat of a significant jail term. 405 00:16:41,820 --> 00:16:44,500 Prior to that there were almost none. 406 00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:47,780 The prospect of going to jail for 20 years is...frightening. 407 00:16:47,780 --> 00:16:48,020 The prospect of going to jail Obviously. I've got two young kids. 408 00:16:48,020 --> 00:16:49,420 Obviously. I've got two young kids. 409 00:16:49,420 --> 00:16:54,500 So, yeah, the idea of going to jail at all is quite scary for me. 410 00:16:54,500 --> 00:16:56,300 The guy who served me... 411 00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:58,300 Looks like you're going to court... 412 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:01,620 In court the police argue 413 00:17:01,620 --> 00:17:05,860 that the three should be prevented from contacting each other. 414 00:17:08,980 --> 00:17:11,180 Their lawyer, Zarah Burgess, 415 00:17:11,180 --> 00:17:15,700 convinces the magistrate that that's unnecessary. 416 00:17:15,700 --> 00:17:18,820 These kinds of conditions are what we would normally see 417 00:17:18,820 --> 00:17:20,700 in relation to outlaw motorcycle gangs, 418 00:17:20,700 --> 00:17:20,940 in relation not peaceful climate activists. 419 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:22,860 not peaceful climate activists. 420 00:17:22,860 --> 00:17:24,740 And certainly it appears to be 421 00:17:24,740 --> 00:17:28,100 that police are continuing with their crackdown 422 00:17:28,100 --> 00:17:30,900 on the lawful activities of climate activists. 423 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:31,140 on the lawful activities Thank you. 424 00:17:31,140 --> 00:17:31,900 Thank you. 425 00:17:31,900 --> 00:17:35,660 No sooner have the activists left court for one protest 426 00:17:35,660 --> 00:17:39,460 they go straight to a planning meeting for another. 427 00:17:43,820 --> 00:17:46,980 Sure, we've got materials, media training, 428 00:17:46,980 --> 00:17:47,220 Sure, we've got materials, rehearsal and security rundown. 429 00:17:47,220 --> 00:17:50,020 rehearsal and security rundown. 430 00:17:50,020 --> 00:17:51,820 Does that sound about right? Yeah? 431 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:54,220 Despite the increased legal threat, 432 00:17:54,220 --> 00:17:59,620 this next protest will be Disrupt Burrup Hub's boldest yet. 433 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:02,220 Should we do a rehearsal before media training? 434 00:18:02,220 --> 00:18:03,620 Definitely. Yeah. 435 00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:08,060 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 436 00:18:08,060 --> 00:18:11,780 They've invited us to their rehearsal. 437 00:18:11,780 --> 00:18:14,100 We don't know their exact target. 438 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:15,780 You put this end in to the paint. 439 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:17,700 TILDA LANE-ROSE: Yeah. And you pull it up. 440 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:20,060 Then it'll suck the paint in. Oh! Sick. 441 00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:21,620 Put the lid on. Yeah. 442 00:18:21,620 --> 00:18:21,860 Put the lid on. And then squeeze it out. 443 00:18:21,860 --> 00:18:23,300 And then squeeze it out. 444 00:18:23,300 --> 00:18:24,300 OK. 445 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:26,875 I just cannot find the instructions, hey. It's actually... 446 00:18:26,875 --> 00:18:28,460 Can you just give that a go? Yeah. 447 00:18:28,460 --> 00:18:28,700 Can you just give that a go? Oh. No. 448 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:29,620 Oh. No. 449 00:18:29,620 --> 00:18:32,260 It's coming out at that end. (LAUGHS) 450 00:18:32,260 --> 00:18:34,780 It doesn't want to seem to want to fill these up, 451 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:36,380 so, I'm going to try and put these on... 452 00:18:36,380 --> 00:18:36,620 so, I'm going to try Oh! 453 00:18:36,620 --> 00:18:37,380 Oh! 454 00:18:37,380 --> 00:18:38,380 ..the other... That. 455 00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:38,620 ..the other... That bit there. Yeah. 456 00:18:38,620 --> 00:18:39,940 That bit there. Yeah. 457 00:18:39,940 --> 00:18:41,420 There you go. And then maybe... 458 00:18:41,420 --> 00:18:44,100 Can the cap go on that other bit? 459 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:45,260 Possibly. 460 00:18:45,260 --> 00:18:45,500 Great. I can't believe Possibly. 461 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:47,180 Great. I can't believe it's on clearance for $9, 462 00:18:47,180 --> 00:18:49,500 but it's, like, a water gun AND a balloon filler. 463 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:53,380 Like, you can fill up 100 balloons in, like, 30 seconds! 464 00:18:53,380 --> 00:18:53,620 Like, you can fill up 100 balloons Yeah. 465 00:18:53,620 --> 00:18:54,380 Yeah. 466 00:18:54,380 --> 00:18:54,620 Tilda Lane-Rose Yeah. 467 00:18:54,620 --> 00:18:57,820 Tilda Lane-Rose will be taking the lead role. 468 00:18:57,820 --> 00:19:02,900 Her protest is scheduled to take place before dawn tomorrow. 469 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:05,020 JESSE NOAKES: Do you want once from the top through? 470 00:19:05,020 --> 00:19:07,100 Yeah. I reckon let's go from the top through. 471 00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:08,420 You reckon you've got it, Tilda? 472 00:19:08,420 --> 00:19:09,740 Uh... 473 00:19:09,740 --> 00:19:12,340 6:00... So, we start 6:00. 474 00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:14,820 6:00AM is playtime. Yeah. Yep. 6:00 - playtime. 475 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:16,340 6:01 - spray. 476 00:19:16,340 --> 00:19:19,300 6:02 - tip. 477 00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:21,060 6:03 - lob. 478 00:19:21,060 --> 00:19:22,820 6:04 - lock. 479 00:19:22,820 --> 00:19:24,820 6:05 - piece to camera. 480 00:19:24,820 --> 00:19:26,020 And then... 481 00:19:26,020 --> 00:19:27,140 That's... Yep. 482 00:19:27,140 --> 00:19:29,620 That's perfect. The only thing you missed was 'deploy lights'... 483 00:19:29,620 --> 00:19:31,940 Oh, shit. Yeah. But I would deploy the lights. 484 00:19:31,940 --> 00:19:32,180 Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. Spot on. Alright. 485 00:19:32,180 --> 00:19:33,460 Yeah. Spot on. Alright. 486 00:19:34,420 --> 00:19:36,580 We're there. Lights on 6 o'clock. 487 00:19:36,580 --> 00:19:38,100 I send a text message. 488 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:40,340 Take care. I'm going to go first. 489 00:20:21,340 --> 00:20:23,180 That went high. 490 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:24,620 Get the lock. 491 00:20:29,420 --> 00:20:31,300 Oh, that's all over my hands. 492 00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:32,940 Yeah, and all over the lock. 493 00:20:35,380 --> 00:20:38,020 Alright, let's get me this way. 494 00:20:38,020 --> 00:20:40,420 It's obviously not going to be on such an angle. 495 00:20:40,420 --> 00:20:42,020 Put it on the thing first, right? Yeah. 496 00:20:42,020 --> 00:20:46,060 You want me to hold it straight? That would be great, actually. 497 00:20:48,660 --> 00:20:50,540 And you'll have plenty of time. 498 00:20:58,620 --> 00:21:00,220 Nice one. OK. 499 00:21:00,220 --> 00:21:02,940 And then I will be standing about where Nick is. 500 00:21:02,940 --> 00:21:05,460 Yep. And we'll do... 501 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:07,940 Piece to camera. Piece to camera. Yep. 502 00:21:07,940 --> 00:21:08,180 Piece to camera. Saying something profound, 503 00:21:08,180 --> 00:21:09,780 Saying something profound, 504 00:21:09,780 --> 00:21:13,500 moving, brave, bold, intellectual. 505 00:21:15,660 --> 00:21:17,020 Great. 506 00:21:19,580 --> 00:21:21,980 I reckon maybe let's do a round of how did it feel? 507 00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:24,500 TAHLIA STOLARSKI: Yeah. Yeah, it was good. 508 00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:27,140 So, it's good to actually get stuff on a wall. 509 00:21:27,140 --> 00:21:30,020 Yeah, I felt good. I felt a little bit flustered. 510 00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:30,260 Yeah, I felt good. So, a bit of time pressure, 511 00:21:30,260 --> 00:21:32,060 So, a bit of time pressure, 512 00:21:32,060 --> 00:21:34,220 but that's OK, we've actually got a bit of time. 513 00:21:34,220 --> 00:21:38,500 That second lob you did was spot on. 514 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:43,100 Tilda is expecting to go into custody. 515 00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:43,340 Tilda is expecting I ask her for her final reflections. 516 00:21:43,340 --> 00:21:46,220 I ask her for her final reflections. 517 00:21:46,220 --> 00:21:47,340 The thing that I'm targeting, 518 00:21:47,340 --> 00:21:49,020 I think it's something that really matters to me, 519 00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:49,260 I think it's something especially as, like, a young person 520 00:21:49,260 --> 00:21:50,740 especially as, like, a young person 521 00:21:50,740 --> 00:21:50,980 who often feels, like, especially as, like, a young person 522 00:21:50,980 --> 00:21:53,220 who often feels, like, quite disempowered 523 00:21:53,220 --> 00:21:54,620 within the political system. 524 00:21:56,020 --> 00:21:57,700 And I think, like, just sort of... 525 00:21:57,700 --> 00:21:57,940 ..I'm, like, sticking it to the man And I think, like, just sort of... 526 00:21:57,940 --> 00:22:02,820 ..I'm, like, sticking it to the man and saying, "Listen to me." 527 00:22:02,820 --> 00:22:03,060 ..I'm, like, sticking it to the man Just, yeah, exciting. (LAUGHS) 528 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:04,940 Just, yeah, exciting. (LAUGHS) 529 00:22:05,900 --> 00:22:08,500 I have no idea what you're going to do tomorrow, 530 00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:12,340 but I'm assuming it's got an element of breaking the law. 531 00:22:12,340 --> 00:22:12,580 but I'm assuming it's got an element Yeah, it does. So, yeah. 532 00:22:12,580 --> 00:22:14,820 Yeah, it does. So, yeah. 533 00:22:14,820 --> 00:22:17,500 And you're confident you want to do that? 534 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:17,740 And you're confident Yeah, I'm really confident. 535 00:22:17,740 --> 00:22:19,580 Yeah, I'm really confident. 536 00:22:19,580 --> 00:22:21,900 I think that I just don't... 537 00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:25,180 I feel like I've exhausted every other avenue, really. 538 00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:28,140 So this is, yeah, I think the logical next step 539 00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:33,500 in my sort of fight to pursue what matters to me. 540 00:22:37,060 --> 00:22:38,620 On the other side 541 00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:41,420 the fight is just as fierce. 542 00:22:41,420 --> 00:22:44,780 We really wanted to show you Woodside's perspective, 543 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:47,940 but they declined multiple times. 544 00:22:49,540 --> 00:22:54,580 So, we've relied on industry analysts to bring you a different view. 545 00:22:57,780 --> 00:23:00,740 We can't just, you know, look at our gas industry, for example, 546 00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:00,980 We can't just, you know, look at our and say it needs to shut tomorrow 547 00:23:00,980 --> 00:23:02,940 and say it needs to shut tomorrow 548 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:03,180 because it is integral to Australia's economy and say it needs to shut tomorrow 549 00:23:03,180 --> 00:23:05,700 because it is integral to Australia's economy 550 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:05,940 because it is integral and global civilisation. 551 00:23:05,940 --> 00:23:07,380 and global civilisation. 552 00:23:08,340 --> 00:23:10,380 Energy analyst Saul Kavonic 553 00:23:10,380 --> 00:23:13,460 thinks we should be proud of our gas sector. 554 00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:16,140 Projects like the Burrup Hub 555 00:23:16,140 --> 00:23:18,860 have a couple of key elements to them. 556 00:23:18,860 --> 00:23:22,620 It's actually a big provider of domestic gas to Australia. 557 00:23:22,620 --> 00:23:25,780 This is very good for high-paying jobs domestically. 558 00:23:25,780 --> 00:23:28,300 Keep in mind, you know, over the last couple of years 559 00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:30,740 and including the last budget surplus, 560 00:23:30,740 --> 00:23:30,980 and including a very large chunk of that surplus 561 00:23:30,980 --> 00:23:32,420 a very large chunk of that surplus 562 00:23:32,420 --> 00:23:32,660 would not have been there if not for a very large chunk of that surplus 563 00:23:32,660 --> 00:23:36,940 would not have been there if not for taxes from Australia's LNG sector. 564 00:23:38,540 --> 00:23:43,740 Australia is the world's biggest exporter of liquid natural gas. 565 00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:47,580 A quarter of it is processed in the Burrup Peninsula. 566 00:23:47,580 --> 00:23:52,220 Saul says preventing Woodside's expansion is reckless. 567 00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:52,460 Saul says preventing Woodside's If we look globally, 568 00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:53,700 If we look globally, 569 00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:57,060 particularly in the wake of the tragic Ukraine war last year, 570 00:23:57,060 --> 00:24:01,100 our allies and trading partners in Europe and Asia 571 00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:03,660 are very worried about energy security. 572 00:24:03,660 --> 00:24:07,660 And, for them, energy security is not just a cost-of-living issue, 573 00:24:07,660 --> 00:24:09,820 it's a national-security issue for them. 574 00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:13,260 And, so, they look to Australia to provide their energy needs. 575 00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:13,540 Mr Chairman, I'd like to introduce Ms Jessica Panegyres. She's a... And, so, they look to Australia to provide their energy needs. 576 00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:17,140 Mr Chairman, I'd like to introduce Ms Jessica Panegyres. She's a... 577 00:24:17,140 --> 00:24:19,700 During a shareholders' meeting last year... 578 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:19,980 During a shareholders' meeting last year... As a very proud Western Australian, I'd love to see WA... 579 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:23,180 As a very proud Western Australian, I'd love to see WA... 580 00:24:23,180 --> 00:24:26,220 ..environmental activists holding proxy votes 581 00:24:26,220 --> 00:24:29,020 put questions to Woodside CEO, Meg O'Neill. 582 00:24:29,020 --> 00:24:31,780 My question is how is Woodside addressing the risk 583 00:24:31,780 --> 00:24:36,380 that pushing more gas into our key Asian export markets 584 00:24:36,380 --> 00:24:36,620 that pushing more gas may be displacing renewable energy? 585 00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:38,860 may be displacing renewable energy? 586 00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:39,820 The... 587 00:24:39,820 --> 00:24:44,660 Ms O'Neill reiterated how important our gas is to our Asian allies. 588 00:24:44,660 --> 00:24:44,940 We work very closely with our Japanese customers Ms O'Neill reiterated how important our gas is to our Asian allies. 589 00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:48,020 We work very closely with our Japanese customers 590 00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:49,540 who are utility providers, 591 00:24:49,540 --> 00:24:54,580 and they're very clear that they cannot meet their customers' needs 592 00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:54,820 and they're very clear that they through solar and wind alone. 593 00:24:54,820 --> 00:24:56,100 through solar and wind alone. 594 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:56,340 through solar and wind alone. Chairman, I'd like to introduce Mr David Ritter, who is... 595 00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:59,580 Chairman, I'd like to introduce Mr David Ritter, who is... 596 00:24:59,580 --> 00:25:00,900 At the same meeting, 597 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:03,140 Woodside's chair, Richard Goyder, 598 00:25:03,140 --> 00:25:07,700 disputed claims by Greenpeace CEO, David Ritter, 599 00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:12,980 that Woodside's business practices go against UN policy. 600 00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:14,220 I think the United Nations would say 601 00:25:14,220 --> 00:25:16,060 that, actually, energy security 602 00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:18,300 and providing people who are moving 603 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:20,500 to have a sort of standard of living 604 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:22,380 that you enjoy today, 605 00:25:22,380 --> 00:25:25,700 supported by fossil fuels today, 606 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:27,820 that they're entitled to that 607 00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:28,020 and that businesses like Woodside that they're entitled to that 608 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:30,660 and that businesses like Woodside 609 00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:30,900 that are part and that businesses like Woodside 610 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:33,420 that are part of the energy transition, 611 00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:38,060 that are part of moving the world to net zero by 2050 612 00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:38,300 that are part of moving the world are an important part of it. 613 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:39,540 are an important part of it. 614 00:25:39,540 --> 00:25:39,780 are an important part of it. A gas company seeking to gaslight the United Nations 615 00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:42,540 A gas company seeking to gaslight the United Nations 616 00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:43,940 is quite something. That's not... 617 00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:44,180 is quite something. This is not a statement that... 618 00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:45,300 This is not a statement that... 619 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:46,820 Can we close down microphone five, please? 620 00:25:46,820 --> 00:25:48,820 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) And we'll move to microphone three. 621 00:25:48,820 --> 00:25:49,060 Thank you. (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) And we'll move to microphone three. 622 00:25:49,060 --> 00:25:50,460 Thank you. 623 00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:54,260 They want to delay the transition as much as they can. 624 00:25:54,260 --> 00:25:54,500 They want to delay the transition Yeah, because it's what they know. 625 00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:56,180 Yeah, because it's what they know. 626 00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:57,660 It's what the executives' 627 00:25:57,660 --> 00:25:57,860 It's what the executives' bonuses are based on. 628 00:25:57,860 --> 00:25:59,140 bonuses are based on. 629 00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:01,020 They just want to keep on going as they are. 630 00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:07,580 Alex Hillman was a lobbyist and climate-change advisor for Woodside. 631 00:26:07,580 --> 00:26:11,100 He worked for the company for almost a decade. 632 00:26:12,740 --> 00:26:17,500 Now working with the Australasian Centre for Corporate Responsibility, 633 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:21,780 he says that, even if part of the Burrup Hub expansion is approved, 634 00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:24,700 it will be a huge source of emissions. 635 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:27,740 North West Shelf extension 636 00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:27,980 is currently North West Shelf extension 637 00:26:27,980 --> 00:26:30,860 is currently undergoing environmental approvals. 638 00:26:30,860 --> 00:26:34,620 That approval would allow it to emit...well, process and emit 639 00:26:34,620 --> 00:26:37,380 about four billion tonnes of emissions. 640 00:26:37,380 --> 00:26:39,500 The scale of this thing is hard to understand. 641 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:44,820 Alex says the industry relies on a tight relationship 642 00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:45,060 Alex says the industry relies with the top echelons of government. 643 00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:47,540 with the top echelons of government. 644 00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:53,380 So, Woodside donates more money to both major political parties 645 00:26:53,380 --> 00:26:56,260 than any other Australian fossil-fuel company. 646 00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:56,500 than any other It employs politicians as directors 647 00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:58,820 It employs politicians as directors 648 00:26:58,820 --> 00:27:02,540 to influence state policy and ministerial decisions. 649 00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:04,780 Both times Woodside has faced a carbon price 650 00:27:04,780 --> 00:27:07,500 it's lobbied against them and it's been repealed. 651 00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:07,740 it's lobbied against them (CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK) 652 00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:09,660 (CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK) 653 00:27:09,660 --> 00:27:12,060 One of the starkest examples of this 654 00:27:12,060 --> 00:27:16,340 is when former premier, Mark McGowan, personally intervened 655 00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:18,940 to advance the interests of industry. 656 00:27:18,940 --> 00:27:22,620 TOM HATTON: I took a phone call from the Premier and we had a discussion. 657 00:27:22,620 --> 00:27:22,860 TOM HATTON: I took a phone call from It was very clear that 658 00:27:22,860 --> 00:27:24,260 It was very clear that 659 00:27:24,260 --> 00:27:24,460 he did not want to see... It was very clear that 660 00:27:24,460 --> 00:27:27,540 he did not want to see... 661 00:27:27,540 --> 00:27:29,180 ..um... 662 00:27:29,180 --> 00:27:32,140 ..the resource industry hamstrung 663 00:27:32,140 --> 00:27:32,380 ..the resource industry hamstrung by conditions on greenhouse-gas emissions 664 00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:36,700 by conditions on greenhouse-gas emissions 665 00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:36,940 by conditions that...that... 666 00:27:36,940 --> 00:27:38,940 that...that... 667 00:27:38,940 --> 00:27:40,540 ..that they felt were untenable. 668 00:27:40,540 --> 00:27:43,380 It was rather extraordinary. 669 00:27:44,340 --> 00:27:48,020 This is the former head of the independent agency 670 00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:51,660 the Environmental Protection Authority of WA 671 00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:51,900 the Environmental Protection speaking to ABC News a few weeks ago. 672 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,940 speaking to ABC News a few weeks ago. 673 00:27:54,940 --> 00:27:56,540 In 2019 674 00:27:56,540 --> 00:27:59,740 Tom Hatton published new guidelines for industry 675 00:27:59,740 --> 00:28:05,380 to offset emissions from all new large polluting projects to net zero. 676 00:28:05,380 --> 00:28:05,620 to offset emissions from all new It was a kind of a carbon tax. 677 00:28:05,620 --> 00:28:07,860 It was a kind of a carbon tax. 678 00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:12,140 Woodside and the gas industry pushed back. 679 00:28:12,140 --> 00:28:12,420 It's an issue that will affect oil and gas investment, Woodside and the gas industry pushed back. 680 00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:14,740 It's an issue that will affect oil and gas investment, 681 00:28:14,740 --> 00:28:17,260 mining investments, other developments, 682 00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:17,500 mining investments, other developments, even things like fertiliser plants. 683 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:18,860 even things like fertiliser plants. 684 00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:19,100 So, there's thousands of jobs at even things like fertiliser plants. 685 00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:22,140 So, there's thousands of jobs at stake. It's not just our business. 686 00:28:22,140 --> 00:28:25,740 After a meeting with industry representatives, 687 00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:25,980 After a meeting including Meg O'Neill, 688 00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:27,180 including Meg O'Neill, 689 00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:31,700 the then premier, Mark McGowan, rang the head of the EPA. 690 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:33,500 It wasn't a very long phone call. 691 00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:38,420 It was a very direct, very straightforward request 692 00:28:38,420 --> 00:28:38,660 It was a very direct, that he did not... 693 00:28:38,660 --> 00:28:41,820 that he did not... 694 00:28:41,820 --> 00:28:45,380 ..want us to continue with those guidelines 695 00:28:45,380 --> 00:28:47,060 and wanted us to withdraw them. 696 00:28:47,060 --> 00:28:49,860 I tried to have a conversation to say, 697 00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:50,100 I tried to have a conversation "Well, you know, 698 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:51,700 "Well, you know, 699 00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:54,140 "we're happy to do further consultation 700 00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:55,380 "if that's what's required." 701 00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:57,860 And he said, "No, I want you to withdraw the guidelines." 702 00:28:59,060 --> 00:29:05,020 Tom Hatton previously told the ABC he felt he had no choice. 703 00:29:05,020 --> 00:29:05,260 Tom Hatton previously told the ABC It was highly unorthodox 704 00:29:05,260 --> 00:29:06,940 It was highly unorthodox 705 00:29:06,940 --> 00:29:09,660 and, in my view, 706 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:11,140 inappropriate. 707 00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:11,380 I felt I had the whole reputation inappropriate. 708 00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:17,220 I felt I had the whole reputation of 50 years of EPA on my shoulders 709 00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:23,220 but also the environmental future of the state on my shoulders. 710 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:25,740 And thank you to all you, thanks to the media. 711 00:29:25,740 --> 00:29:29,500 Mark McGowan resigned from government four months ago. 712 00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:31,300 Four Corners has confirmed 713 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:37,500 he's joining resources giant BHP and mining company Mineral Resources 714 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:37,740 he's joining resources giant BHP as a consultant. 715 00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:39,620 as a consultant. 716 00:29:39,620 --> 00:29:43,140 McGowan's then treasurer, Ben Wyatt, 717 00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:45,700 is now a director with Woodside. 718 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:51,780 Neither MacGowan nor Wyatt responded to requests for an interview. 719 00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:56,420 It's not big news 720 00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:56,660 that companies come It's not big news 721 00:29:56,660 --> 00:30:01,260 that companies come and try to influence government. 722 00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:04,420 Former long-term Labor minister Alannah MacTiernan 723 00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:08,980 was part of the cabinet that approved some of the Burrup expansion. 724 00:30:08,980 --> 00:30:09,220 was part of the cabinet that approved She rejects any suggestion 725 00:30:09,220 --> 00:30:11,020 She rejects any suggestion 726 00:30:11,020 --> 00:30:11,260 the government She rejects any suggestion 727 00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:13,900 the government has been captured by industry. 728 00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:18,900 The role of government is to really look at the arguments, 729 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,420 understand the community's aspirations 730 00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:24,660 and work out what is achievable. 731 00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:24,900 She says the state needs and work out what is achievable. 732 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:28,060 She says the state needs the Burrup expansion 733 00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:31,620 because it's not ready to shut down gas completely. 734 00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:34,580 But she is critical of sections of the industry 735 00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:38,420 over the pace of the transition to renewable energy. 736 00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:41,900 We've got to drive those companies harder. 737 00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:42,180 And I've said this to them many times. We've got to drive those companies harder. 738 00:30:42,180 --> 00:30:44,300 And I've said this to them many times. 739 00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:46,340 Like, you can't just dabble around the edges, 740 00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:46,580 Like, you can't just dabble around the edges, making it appear 741 00:30:46,580 --> 00:30:49,220 making it appear 742 00:30:49,220 --> 00:30:53,740 that you are interested in funding the technology for the transition. 743 00:30:53,740 --> 00:30:55,100 You've got to get in there 744 00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:55,340 and you've really You've got to get in there 745 00:30:55,340 --> 00:30:59,380 and you've really got to be part of that solution. 746 00:30:59,380 --> 00:31:03,140 Which companies have been most resistant to change? 747 00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:06,220 Um... 748 00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:07,620 Well, I'll pass on that. 749 00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:09,780 What about Woodside? 750 00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:11,140 Um... 751 00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:17,260 I've certainly always encouraged Woodside to be more ambitious. 752 00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:24,940 It's August 1. 753 00:31:24,940 --> 00:31:27,100 Protest day. 754 00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:29,380 GERARD MAZZA: Do you know where you're going, Jesse? 755 00:31:29,380 --> 00:31:30,860 JESSE NOAKES: Yep. Cool. 756 00:31:34,580 --> 00:31:36,060 Alright, I should tell everyone 757 00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:38,540 we're going to touch down in about, what, five minutes. 758 00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:40,500 (LAUGHS) Five minutes. 759 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:43,460 Oh, probably right on sunrise, I reckon. 760 00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:47,380 Anyone have any final words? 761 00:31:47,380 --> 00:31:48,860 Final words. 762 00:31:48,860 --> 00:31:51,060 "Bye, Tilda. Nice knowing you." 763 00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:54,860 I'm just very, very, very, very proud. 764 00:31:54,860 --> 00:31:58,380 This is the moment Tilda's been preparing for. 765 00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:01,540 Are you ready? What am I doing? 766 00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:09,820 But, as the Disrupt Burrup Hub activists pull up, 767 00:32:09,820 --> 00:32:10,060 But, as the Disrupt Burrup Hub police are waiting. 768 00:32:10,060 --> 00:32:11,060 police are waiting. 769 00:32:11,060 --> 00:32:13,140 POLICE: Police! Don't move! 770 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:16,220 Do not move! 771 00:32:16,220 --> 00:32:18,260 You're under arrest on suspicion of trespass. 772 00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:18,500 You're under arrest You're under arrest for trespass. 773 00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,020 You're under arrest for trespass. 774 00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:21,580 Get back. 775 00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:22,900 Just come over this way, please. 776 00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,180 You're under arrest on suspicion of trespass. 777 00:32:32,380 --> 00:32:38,340 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 778 00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:38,580 So, we've been following (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 779 00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:42,420 So, we've been following the protesters to this address. 780 00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:47,580 It looks like this is the house of Woodside Energy CEO Meg O'Neill. 781 00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:47,820 It looks like this is the house And the protest that they've planned 782 00:32:47,820 --> 00:32:49,500 And the protest that they've planned 783 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:54,020 was probably going to be at the gate of Ms O'Neill's house. 784 00:32:54,020 --> 00:32:56,260 As soon as the protesters arrived 785 00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:58,340 police were waiting for them here, 786 00:32:58,340 --> 00:32:59,980 stopped them immediately 787 00:32:59,980 --> 00:33:02,260 and put them under arrest. 788 00:33:02,260 --> 00:33:03,820 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 789 00:33:03,820 --> 00:33:05,700 Over the next half hour 790 00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:08,500 more and more police show up. 791 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:14,180 The seriousness of the police operation quickly becomes apparent. 792 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:18,940 WA's State Security Investigation squad is in charge. 793 00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:22,260 Soon they turn their attention to the ABC. 794 00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:22,500 Soon they turn their attention Yes, I'm with ABC. 795 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,420 Yes, I'm with ABC. 796 00:33:24,420 --> 00:33:27,420 Yeah, with the Four Corners program. Sure. 797 00:33:27,420 --> 00:33:29,660 My name is Hagar Cohen. 798 00:33:33,580 --> 00:33:34,980 And you? 799 00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:35,220 I'm Roger Haynes from the State And you? 800 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:37,540 I'm Roger Haynes from the State Security Investigation Group. 801 00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:39,100 OK. This man here... 802 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:43,380 Roger Haynes asks to search our ABC van. 803 00:33:43,380 --> 00:33:45,860 Do you have a search warrant? I don't need one. 804 00:33:45,860 --> 00:33:47,100 I will invoke... 805 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:50,740 He thinks we have the activists' phones inside, 806 00:33:50,740 --> 00:33:50,980 He thinks we have but then he changes his mind. 807 00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:54,620 but then he changes his mind. 808 00:33:54,620 --> 00:33:56,020 All good. 809 00:33:56,020 --> 00:33:56,260 Ah, all good? All good. 810 00:33:56,260 --> 00:33:57,700 Ah, all good? All good, yeah. 811 00:33:57,700 --> 00:33:59,780 Oh, he's all good. He doesn't need it anymore. 812 00:33:59,780 --> 00:34:00,020 Oh, he's all good. Thank you. 813 00:34:00,020 --> 00:34:00,780 Thank you. 814 00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:02,420 (INDISTINCT POLICE-RADIO CHATTER) 815 00:34:02,420 --> 00:34:03,940 Understood. 816 00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:06,140 After about an hour, 817 00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:11,260 the activists are bundled into a police car and taken into custody. 818 00:34:11,260 --> 00:34:14,780 Gerard Mazza is charged with trespass. 819 00:34:14,780 --> 00:34:17,940 He, Jesse Noakes and Tilda Lane-Rose 820 00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:21,500 are charged with conspiracy to commit an indictable offence. 821 00:34:34,660 --> 00:34:36,740 Hi, Jo. How are you? 822 00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:37,820 Good. 823 00:34:44,260 --> 00:34:45,740 How are you guys going? 824 00:34:45,740 --> 00:34:48,580 Uh... Just a bit thrown, I think. 825 00:34:48,580 --> 00:34:49,860 Later that morning 826 00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:53,420 I caught up with Tahlia at Joana Partyka's apartment. 827 00:34:53,420 --> 00:34:57,180 The story about the protest was all over the papers. 828 00:34:57,180 --> 00:34:57,420 The story about the protest I wanted to know 829 00:34:57,420 --> 00:34:58,660 I wanted to know 830 00:34:58,660 --> 00:34:58,900 why Disrupt Burrup Hub I wanted to know 831 00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:03,180 why Disrupt Burrup Hub thought their actions were justified. 832 00:35:03,180 --> 00:35:04,300 Did you see, though, 833 00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:06,660 Meg O'Neill released a statement to the papers today? 834 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:07,420 No. 835 00:35:07,420 --> 00:35:10,820 She said she was terrified. 836 00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:13,980 What's it say? 837 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:14,220 (READS) "Climate activists target What's it say? 838 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:17,620 (READS) "Climate activists target home of Woodside Energy boss..." 839 00:35:17,620 --> 00:35:17,860 (READS) "Climate activists target That line - "Such acts by extremists 840 00:35:17,860 --> 00:35:20,540 That line - "Such acts by extremists 841 00:35:20,540 --> 00:35:24,300 "should be condemned by anyone who respects the law 842 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:26,820 "and believes people should be safe to go about their business 843 00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:27,980 "at home and at work" - 844 00:35:27,980 --> 00:35:29,700 like, that's the point. What about my kids? 845 00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:32,300 That's the point of why we're doing this. Like... 846 00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:36,620 What about my kids feeling safe when they're adults, you know? 847 00:35:36,620 --> 00:35:37,900 Yeah. Me feeling like... 848 00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:39,780 Yeah. ..they're going to have... 849 00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:40,020 Yeah. ..be able to have a safe home. 850 00:35:40,020 --> 00:35:41,980 ..be able to have a safe home. 851 00:35:41,980 --> 00:35:45,980 But you don't feel that this kind of action would be terrifying? 852 00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:49,020 You know, she would know this campaign is a non-violent campaign. 853 00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:51,540 I don't see any reason... It also pales in comparison 854 00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:53,580 to the terror that we all feel 855 00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:58,100 A - every day as people living in a climate crisis fuelled by Woodside 856 00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:01,260 and B - as individuals being targeted by the state... 857 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:02,860 Yeah. ..for trying to fight. 858 00:36:02,860 --> 00:36:03,100 Yeah. The action today 859 00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,340 The action today 860 00:36:04,340 --> 00:36:08,260 probably does represent somewhat an escalation in the campaign. 861 00:36:08,260 --> 00:36:12,540 Do you think that police... the police are feeling like, 862 00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:17,220 "OK, this is the radicalisation of this group"? 863 00:36:17,220 --> 00:36:23,100 I don't see today's action being an escalation. 864 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:23,340 I don't see today's action Our strategy is to escalate or... 865 00:36:23,340 --> 00:36:26,300 Our strategy is to escalate or... 866 00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:31,660 ..and-or use innovative tactics. 867 00:36:31,660 --> 00:36:33,540 (PHONE RINGS) 868 00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:36,300 Oh, it's the police. Oh. 869 00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:38,660 Yeah, you should take that. Yes. 870 00:36:40,020 --> 00:36:42,340 Hello? Tahlia speaking. 871 00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:47,220 Yeah. Hi. Good, thanks. 872 00:36:47,220 --> 00:36:50,300 A State Security Investigations officer 873 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:54,180 tells Tahlia that there are six of them outside her house 874 00:36:54,180 --> 00:36:54,420 tells Tahlia that there are with a search warrant. 875 00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:55,740 with a search warrant. 876 00:36:55,740 --> 00:36:55,980 Tahlia's told if she doesn't go home, with a search warrant. 877 00:36:55,980 --> 00:37:00,260 Tahlia's told if she doesn't go home, they'll break in. 878 00:37:00,260 --> 00:37:04,100 I am leaving now. I can be there in 20 minutes. 879 00:37:05,460 --> 00:37:06,820 Sure. Yeah. 880 00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:12,180 No, I don't know, so... Doors closing. Elevator going down. 881 00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:12,420 No, I don't know, so... This year alone 882 00:37:12,420 --> 00:37:13,700 This year alone 883 00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:16,140 Disrupt Burrup Hub activists 884 00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:16,380 have been charged Disrupt Burrup Hub activists 885 00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:21,260 have been charged with indictable offences 23 times. 886 00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:31,140 Alright, so, I can see a couple of police officers 887 00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:31,380 Alright, so, I can see just at the front of Tahlia's house. 888 00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:34,100 just at the front of Tahlia's house. 889 00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:34,340 We think it's from just at the front of Tahlia's house. 890 00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:37,220 We think it's from the counter-terrorism squad. 891 00:37:37,220 --> 00:37:37,460 We think it's from We're going to go and check it out. 892 00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:39,340 We're going to go and check it out. 893 00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:40,780 Hello, Tahlia. Hi. 894 00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:44,380 I'm Detective (INDISTINCT) from the WA Police. 895 00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:46,420 Just to let you know at the moment you're currently under arrest 896 00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:49,700 on suspicion of conspiracy to commit an indictable offence. 897 00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:49,940 on suspicion of conspiracy Why? 898 00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:50,780 Why? 899 00:37:50,780 --> 00:37:54,700 I'll explain your rights first and then I'll go into all of that. 900 00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:56,460 Right now you're currently under arrest. 901 00:37:56,460 --> 00:37:56,700 Right now Tahlia Stolarski's house 902 00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:58,140 Tahlia Stolarski's house 903 00:37:58,140 --> 00:38:01,860 is being searched for the third time in four months. 904 00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:03,300 Anything you say or do will be recorded. 905 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:04,900 Can I have the warrant? Yes. 906 00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:07,100 There's a copy of it here. We'll give you a copy when we go inside. 907 00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,180 I'll do that on video. Can I get a copy now? 908 00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:10,740 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. 909 00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:13,780 There you are. Thanks. 910 00:38:13,780 --> 00:38:16,300 Would you like to come inside? No, I just want to read the warrant. 911 00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:17,900 You ARE under arrest. You're currently under arrest... 912 00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:19,740 You have to come inside. But I'm pretty sure... 913 00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:21,700 You can read it. You can read it. ..I can read the warrant... 914 00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:21,940 You can read it. You can read it. We'll close it. 915 00:38:21,940 --> 00:38:22,940 We'll close it. 916 00:38:31,980 --> 00:38:38,300 The officers take nearly two hours to go through Tahlia's belongings. 917 00:38:42,740 --> 00:38:44,580 They're hoping to uncover 918 00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:44,820 evidence of the planning They're hoping to uncover 919 00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:48,220 evidence of the planning for the Meg O'Neill protest. 920 00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:55,700 You're welcome to come in. 921 00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:57,500 Oh! You're staying? I'm not under arrest. 922 00:38:57,500 --> 00:38:59,060 You're not under arrest anymore? I'm not under arrest. 923 00:38:59,060 --> 00:39:01,180 OK. And not being charged with anything? 924 00:39:01,180 --> 00:39:01,420 OK. No, not at this point in time. 925 00:39:01,420 --> 00:39:02,660 No, not at this point in time. 926 00:39:02,660 --> 00:39:05,700 Goodbye. Thanks. Maybe see you again soon. 927 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:12,660 That was a bit of a relief. 928 00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:19,620 We asked Assistant Police Commissioner Jo McCabe 929 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:21,860 to explain their response. 930 00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:24,820 I guess, how do you justify devoting this amount of resources 931 00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:28,460 towards this group and this particular protest? 932 00:39:28,460 --> 00:39:30,260 Well, that depends on the intelligence 933 00:39:30,260 --> 00:39:33,020 and in putting a response accordingly to that. 934 00:39:33,020 --> 00:39:36,220 But we don't know what else that was being planned. 935 00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:38,020 We don't know what else we disrupted. 936 00:39:38,020 --> 00:39:41,740 Do you think that the fact that this was the personal residence 937 00:39:41,740 --> 00:39:41,980 Do you think that the fact of the CEO of Woodside, 938 00:39:41,980 --> 00:39:44,860 of the CEO of Woodside, 939 00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:46,820 a big company here in this state, 940 00:39:46,820 --> 00:39:50,060 would have made a difference to the police response? 941 00:39:50,060 --> 00:39:52,300 Absolutely not. Absolutely not. 942 00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,660 It's of no relevance to us 943 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:58,500 if that person is the CEO of Woodside, you know, 944 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:02,740 or Mrs Jones, you know, a member of our community. 945 00:40:02,740 --> 00:40:04,980 What is the security risk 946 00:40:04,980 --> 00:40:08,540 that climate activists pose these days? 947 00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:11,100 From time to time we have intelligence 948 00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:15,620 that may suggest that people are going to breach the law. 949 00:40:15,620 --> 00:40:17,220 But, in general, 950 00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:21,180 we don't think most of the protest behaviour that we see, you know, 951 00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:21,420 we don't think most of the protest is radicalising people. 952 00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:22,980 is radicalising people. 953 00:40:22,980 --> 00:40:28,900 So, on what grounds was the State Security Investigations unit 954 00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:31,540 deployed to police climate activists? 955 00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:36,220 Uh... Look, I can't talk about individual investigations. 956 00:40:36,220 --> 00:40:36,460 Uh... Look, I can't talk about Is it because they're motivated 957 00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:37,820 Is it because they're motivated 958 00:40:37,820 --> 00:40:42,980 by a particular ideology or political ideas? 959 00:40:42,980 --> 00:40:44,020 No, not at all. 960 00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:52,780 We're here to evacuate this building for Disrupt Burrup Hub! 961 00:40:52,780 --> 00:40:54,260 We must... 962 00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:54,500 We must... Jo McCabe says that police partly justify 963 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:57,780 Jo McCabe says that police partly justify 964 00:40:57,780 --> 00:40:58,020 Jo McCabe says the involvement of State Security 965 00:40:58,020 --> 00:41:00,020 the involvement of State Security 966 00:41:00,020 --> 00:41:03,180 because the activists set off a stink bomb 967 00:41:03,180 --> 00:41:05,980 at Woodside's headquarters back in June. 968 00:41:05,980 --> 00:41:08,900 You know, we had people going to hospital 969 00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:09,140 You know, as a result of that incident. 970 00:41:09,140 --> 00:41:10,740 as a result of that incident. 971 00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:13,700 So, if our State Security Investigations Group 972 00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:16,740 are keeping an eye on the team in Disrupt Burrup, 973 00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:18,700 it's because of their previous behaviour. 974 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:25,020 A police spokesperson later retracted this statement, 975 00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:30,020 saying that some people felt sick but there were no hospitalisations. 976 00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:36,300 In the days following the protest 977 00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:38,540 outside Meg O'Neill's house, 978 00:41:38,540 --> 00:41:41,220 a media storm erupted. 979 00:41:41,220 --> 00:41:43,740 The ABC's presence at the protest 980 00:41:43,740 --> 00:41:46,180 was criticised. 981 00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:51,020 Has the Minister asked the ABC 982 00:41:51,020 --> 00:41:53,100 if the person who took the decision 983 00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,660 to send along a camera crew in these circumstances 984 00:41:55,660 --> 00:41:55,900 to send along a camera crew will be sacked? 985 00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:56,980 will be sacked? 986 00:41:56,980 --> 00:41:59,340 This smells, this reeks, 987 00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:01,820 that there's something dodgy going on here. 988 00:42:01,820 --> 00:42:04,460 No, they... (SCOFFS) ..they really need to have a good hard look. 989 00:42:04,460 --> 00:42:08,420 What happened Tuesday has left me shaken, fearful and distressed. 990 00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:12,580 After our repeated attempts 991 00:42:12,580 --> 00:42:16,140 to get an interview with Woodside CEO, Meg O'Neill, 992 00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:19,900 we were told that the company will not take part in our program 993 00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:24,660 because of our presence at the protest outside the CEO's house. 994 00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:31,540 Two gas industry associations also refused to be interviewed, 995 00:42:31,540 --> 00:42:34,180 as did the WA premier, Roger Cook, 996 00:42:34,180 --> 00:42:37,140 Environment Minister and Energy Minister. 997 00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:41,300 Woodside's chairman, Richard Goyder, and director, Ben Wyatt, 998 00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:41,540 Woodside's chairman, Richard Goyder, didn't respond to our approaches. 999 00:42:41,540 --> 00:42:43,820 didn't respond to our approaches. 1000 00:42:43,820 --> 00:42:44,060 Another director, former federal resources minister, Ian Macfarlane, didn't respond to our approaches. 1001 00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:47,980 Another director, former federal resources minister, Ian Macfarlane, 1002 00:42:47,980 --> 00:42:48,220 sent a text saying resources minister, Ian Macfarlane, 1003 00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:49,540 sent a text saying 1004 00:42:49,540 --> 00:42:54,140 our team should be ashamed of our atrocious behaviour. 1005 00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:03,500 So, this is your room? 1006 00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:05,900 Yes. Yeah, this is my bedroom. 1007 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:06,780 Right. 1008 00:43:06,780 --> 00:43:09,660 And just down the other red Nike TMs 1009 00:43:09,660 --> 00:43:09,900 that I was wearing And just down the other red Nike TMs 1010 00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:11,700 that I was wearing the morning of the action. 1011 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:11,940 that I was wearing At the centre of this controversy, 1012 00:43:11,940 --> 00:43:14,260 At the centre of this controversy, 1013 00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:18,180 19-year-old Tilda Lane-Rose is resolute. 1014 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:18,420 19-year-old Tilda Lane-Rose And ultimately everyone was like, 1015 00:43:18,420 --> 00:43:20,500 And ultimately everyone was like, 1016 00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:23,380 "Tilda, this is your decision." 1017 00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:25,540 I wanted to know how Tilda felt 1018 00:43:25,540 --> 00:43:29,220 about Meg O'Neill's reaction to her protest. 1019 00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:32,780 Was that your intent - to cause her fear? 1020 00:43:32,780 --> 00:43:34,020 No, not at all. 1021 00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:36,500 I think it obviously sparked some personal reflection. 1022 00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:38,020 Like, obviously it... 1023 00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:41,180 You'd have to be very cold and callous to say, 1024 00:43:41,180 --> 00:43:42,220 "I don't care about her." 1025 00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:43,580 You know, like, it wasn't... 1026 00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:47,700 This action wasn't designed to strike terror into Meg. 1027 00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:50,780 It was designed to hold someone, like, 1028 00:43:50,780 --> 00:43:54,220 someone who's accountable for what's happening on the Burrup accountable. 1029 00:43:54,220 --> 00:43:56,060 Did you cross any kind of... Yeah... 1030 00:43:56,060 --> 00:43:56,300 Did you cross any kind of... ..ethical lines? 1031 00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:57,540 ..ethical lines? 1032 00:43:57,540 --> 00:43:57,780 Yeah. ..ethical lines? 1033 00:43:57,780 --> 00:43:59,220 Yeah. Because it was targeting 1034 00:43:59,220 --> 00:43:59,460 Yeah. personal residents? 1035 00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:00,940 personal residents? 1036 00:44:00,940 --> 00:44:02,460 I think that... 1037 00:44:02,460 --> 00:44:04,020 I think, no matter what we do, 1038 00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:04,260 it's going to cross a line I think, no matter what we do, 1039 00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:05,900 it's going to cross a line to some people. 1040 00:44:09,260 --> 00:44:13,980 For now Tilda feels that non-violent direct action 1041 00:44:13,980 --> 00:44:14,220 For now Tilda feels is the only way forward. 1042 00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:16,460 is the only way forward. 1043 00:44:16,460 --> 00:44:21,420 The question is how far is the climate protest movement 1044 00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:24,700 willing to go to achieve their goals? 1045 00:44:27,380 --> 00:44:32,300 And do you see the act of breaking the law or civil disobedience 1046 00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:33,940 as a last resort? 1047 00:44:33,940 --> 00:44:36,340 I hope it's the last resort 1048 00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:38,700 because the only other thing after this is violence. 1049 00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:42,020 Extinction Rebellion are not supporters of violence. 1050 00:44:42,020 --> 00:44:43,820 They are firmly non-violent. 1051 00:44:43,820 --> 00:44:46,300 But I think other protest groups will emerge 1052 00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:49,460 that will use violence out of desperation. 1053 00:44:50,420 --> 00:44:53,540 Is it something you'd be willing to do? 1054 00:44:55,100 --> 00:44:57,900 Who can say? I don't think so. I hope not. 1055 00:44:57,900 --> 00:44:58,140 Who can say? I don't think so. But I'm only human. 1056 00:44:58,140 --> 00:45:00,060 But I'm only human. 1057 00:45:02,740 --> 00:45:04,740 Captions by Red Bee Media 1058 00:45:04,740 --> 00:45:06,940 Copyright Australian Broadcasting Corporation