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LOUISE MILLIGAN:
Nestled among the mansions
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LOUISE MILLIGAN:
of Australia's
Nestled among the mansions
most expensive real estate
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of Australia's
most expensive real estate
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of Australia's
overlooking Sydney Harbour
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overlooking Sydney Harbour
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is one of the country's
most storeyed schools.
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The Cranbrook School
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is the alma mater of captains
of industry and billionaires.
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JASON GRAHAM-NYE:
Driving past the school
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that looks so incredible
from the outside,
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but in my mind it's a facade because
I know what happened on the inside.
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You live not so far away
from Cranbrook now.
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How do you feel
when you go past that place?
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How do you feel
I avoid it.
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I avoid it.
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Persistent debates
about toxic masculinity
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Persistent debates
have led to a push
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have led to a push
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for private boys' schools
to go co-educational.
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But what's often lost in all of that
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is whether institutions like this
are safe places for girls.
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CHANEL CONTOS:
Even if you don't like the idea
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of the fact that a boys' school
is being spotlighted,
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of the fact that a boys' school
what about the girls?
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what about the girls?
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Many female staff
have left the school,
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Many female staff
bewildered at their treatment.
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bewildered at their treatment.
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Investigations have been launched,
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non-disclosure agreements signed,
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settlements paid.
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I just don't want another female
to experience what I've experienced.
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I just don't want another female
It's like lambs to the slaughter.
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It's like lambs to the slaughter.
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And it needs to stop.
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At the end of 2022
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the entire council bar one member
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of the prestigious boys' school
Cranbrook
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resigned after a very public war
was waged with the headmaster.
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resigned after a very public war
At the time
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At the time
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the row was blamed on debates
about the school going co-ed.
At the time
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the row was blamed on debates
about the school going co-ed.
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But our investigation
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But our investigation
has uncovered
a very different picture.
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has uncovered
a very different picture.
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has uncovered
In this episode of Four Corners
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In this episode of Four Corners
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we investigate allegations
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that have until now remained hidden
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and why what happens
at elite institutions like this
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and why what happens
matters for the rest of us.
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matters for the rest of us.
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It's a spectacular Sydney afternoon,
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and a teacher
is crossing Sydney Harbour
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and a teacher
to attend a meeting
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to attend a meeting
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at one of Australia's
to attend a meeting
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at one of Australia's
most exclusive private schools.
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So, I'm going in
to meet with the headmaster.
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Fiona Richards hasn't been able
to work at the school for months.
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I was ready to teach.
I had the capacity to teach.
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I was ready to teach.
The only thing stopping me
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The only thing stopping me
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was an inability to address
the workplace bullying
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and to ensure that the place was
a safe place for me to return to.
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Ms Richards has been trying
to call Cranbrook to account
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for the treatment
she says she received
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at the hands of a circle
of senior men at the school.
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I don't feel very hopeful, frankly.
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I... I just don't.
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I've realised that this
is a bit of a pattern of behaviour,
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and I'm not the only one.
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And you don't think
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that the behaviour directed towards
you at Cranbrook was acceptable?
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that the behaviour directed towards
Not at all.
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Not at all.
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Not at all. It was...
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It was shocking.
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Four Corners has obtained
multiple letters and documents
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from former Cranbrook staff members
describing a toxic culture.
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So, I've got a series of letters here
from women...
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We read them to the former head
of the Old Boys' Association
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and a graduate
of a nearby girls' school.
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I just wanted
to read those out to you.
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The women's letters
echo conversations
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Four Corners has had
over many months
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with dozens of staff and families
who have left Cranbrook.
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Those letters were addressed
to the headmaster, Nicholas Sampson.
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So, 13 October 2020.
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(READS) "Dear Nick,
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"as it stands, I've lost everything
I've worked so hard for -
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"my role, my integrity,
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"my confidence, my happiness.
my strength."
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"my confidence, my happiness.
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8 March 2021.
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(READS) "The school will lose
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"yet another hardworking, dedicated,
experienced and capable leader
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"as a consequence
of being unable or unwilling
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"to eradicate the toxic culture that
exists within pockets of the school."
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"to eradicate the toxic culture that
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16 June 2023.
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(READS) "Dear Nick,
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"Staff Bullying Grievance.
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"I am writing
to express my upset and concern
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"at the demeaning and humiliating
manner in which I have been treated."
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"at the demeaning and humiliating
Monday, 30 October 2023,
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Monday, 30 October 2023,
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and this was to the Australian
Monday, 30 October 2023,
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and this was to the Australian
Human Rights Commission.
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(READS) "I am here today
because Cranbrook failed me.
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(READS) "I am here today
"In my experience,
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"In my experience,
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"Cranbrook did not have a safe,
inclusive and supportive culture
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"for me
and its female teaching staff.
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"That must change."
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Yeah, it's just shocking
and just...it's unimaginable.
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To hear that now is...
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..you know, massive questions
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about whether
they're ready for co-ed or not.
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It seems like absolutely not.
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I'm conscious, again, to comment
on really specific stuff here...
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..but I'm not surprised.
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..but I'm not surprised.
Ultimately it sounds so bad, but
I hear the stuff day in, day out.
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Ultimately it sounds so bad, but
I hear the stuff day in, day out.
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Ultimately it sounds so bad, but
It's, um...
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It's, um...
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I'm almost numb
to hearing these sort of things now.
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ARCHIVE REPORTER: Cranbrook School
occupies a magnificent site
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at Bellevue Hill
overlooking Sydney Harbour.
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I started in kindergarten
when I was three
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and went all the way through
to senior school,
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and I just kind of bought into
the vision of it
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and just loved the philosophy of it.
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It was a school that was committed
to getting the best out of everyone.
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That's an experience
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shared by other parents
Four Corners spoke to off camera,
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shared by other parents
who praised the teachers highly.
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who praised the teachers highly.
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BRENT JACKSON:
Cranbrook's a very nice school.
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BRENT JACKSON:
For us,
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For us,
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it was no real choice.
For us,
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it was no real choice.
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Cranbrook was always going to be
where Jack would go to school.
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It's an impressive school
with an impressive Latin motto.
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So, the Cranbrook motto
is 'Esse quam videri'.
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So, the Cranbrook motto
'Esse quam videri'.
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'Esse quam videri'.
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'To be rather than to seem to be.'
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'To be rather than to seem to be.'
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And it's a huge part of the school.
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How do you feel
about that motto now?
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(INHALES SHARPLY) It's a lie.
How do you feel
about that motto now?
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(INHALES SHARPLY) It's a lie.
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It's all about saving face.
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What you do see of this school
from the street is quite something.
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Cranbrook has just finished
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an award-winning $125 million
redevelopment of its facilities.
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Like all private schools,
it also receives government funding.
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At last count, that was more
than $6.5 million for the year.
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Jason Graham-Nye
dedicated his life to this school.
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So, Jason, why are you here?
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I'm here because I really
have a great love for the school.
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I'm here because I really
I was a student there for 15 years.
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I was a student there for 15 years.
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I was a teacher there. I was
a housemaster there for a time.
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My sons went to that school.
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And I saw behaviour
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from senior management
towards female staff members
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that was completely unacceptable.
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Some of that behaviour, he says,
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was directed towards a senior
marketing executive at Cranbrook
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with whom he had worked when he ran
the school's alumni association.
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The marketing executive
signed a non-disclosure agreement.
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She didn't put you up
to speaking on her behalf?
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No. Not at all.
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This is something that...
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I'm just really passionate
about the school
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I'm just really passionate
and about, you know, um...
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and about, you know, um...
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..seeing the truth aired
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because it's been, you know, buried.
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When the marketing executive
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made allegations
of a toxic culture at Cranbrook
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made allegations
after leaving the school in 2020,
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after leaving the school in 2020,
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the school appointed Jason Graham-Nye
her support person.
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She wrote to Cranbrook
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expressing her dismay
at how the school had treated her.
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(READS) "As Cranbrook
stands poised to go co-ed,
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"it concerns me greatly
that these serious issues
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"have apparently not been addressed
nor resolved,
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"despite assurances
at the time of my departure
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"that there would be
an independent investigation,
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"and one of several
senior women and men in recent years
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"and one of several
"that I'm aware of
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"that I'm aware of
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"have suffered professional demise
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"at the hands
"have suffered professional demise
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"at the hands
of this vicious culture
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"and its repetitive
associated pattern
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"of intent-driven
reputation destruction,
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"white-anting, gaslighting,
underhandedness, dishonesty,
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"collusion and outright lies."
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Staff, including senior men
at the school,
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had made numerous claims against her,
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including questioning
statements she'd made
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including questioning
about her university qualifications.
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about her university qualifications.
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So, there was instances where, um...
about her university qualifications.
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So, there was instances where, um...
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..she was going through
So, there was instances where, um...
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..she was going through
health issues,
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..she was going through
and they were genuinely questioned
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and they were genuinely questioned
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and they were genuinely questioned
by the most senior leaders
in that group,
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by the most senior leaders
in that group,
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which I just thought
was a strange thing to do.
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Without putting
too fine a point on it,
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she had cancer,
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and they questioned
whether she was telling the truth?
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Yeah.
Which I just found extraordinary.
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You know, it's a great way
to force someone out
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You know, it's a great way
is to create that environment.
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is to create that environment.
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The marketing executive's letter
sent Cranbrook into a tailspin.
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The school's council
also became aware
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the parent of a prefect
had raised concerns:
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A workplace lawyer
wrote to the school
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advising that an investigation
be launched:
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Did that cultural review
ever take place?
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Did that cultural review
Not only did it never take place,
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Not only did it never take place,
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there was a review specifically of
the marketing executive's departure,
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there was a review specifically of
but it was...
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but it was...
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..it was run by someone
but it was...
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..it was run by someone
on the senior leadership team.
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..it was run by someone
So, it was, um...
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So, it was, um...
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It was a completely
ineffectual process.
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In a statement
Cranbrook told Four Corners
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it can't discuss matters
covered by non-disclosure agreements,
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it can't discuss matters
but it rejects any assertion
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but it rejects any assertion
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that the school condones:
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In 2021, the year after the marketing
executive left Cranbrook,
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a scandal erupted
in Sydney's private-school community.
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Chanel Contos went public
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with a petition
detailing thousands of testimonies
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of allegations of sexual assaults
by private-school boys.
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Chanel graduated from a neighbouring
girls' private school,
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so, Cranbrook boys
were on the top of her list.
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We got the most amount
of testimonies
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submitted from Scots College
and Cranbrook,
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which are two schools right next
to each other in Bellevue Hill.
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which are two schools right next
to each other in Bellevue Hill.
A few months after the petition,
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A few months after the petition,
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I wrote to the headmasters
of Scots and Cranbrook
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to let them know
that over the last few months
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we had collected almost 500
testimonies of sexual assault
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we had collected almost 500
that named the perpetrator
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that named the perpetrator
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as either a Scots boy
or a Cranbrook student.
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Nicholas Sampson replied
to Chanel Contos immediately,
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and Cranbrook participated
in an independent research study
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on the culture
of students at the school.
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It says it's continuing
to implement the findings,
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which include consent and respect
education for the boys.
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Former mathematics teacher
Jasmin Hyde
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had what seemed to be a bright future
at Cranbrook.
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She was a law graduate who also
had a degree in pure mathematics.
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She was a law graduate who also
But things unravelled
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But things unravelled
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when a student attempted
to blackmail her for nude pictures,
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threatening to accuse her
of abusing him
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threatening to accuse her
if she didn't send them.
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if she didn't send them.
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While the boy who wrote the email
apologised profusely
if she didn't send them.
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While the boy who wrote the email
apologised profusely
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and said he was ashamed,
apologised profusely
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and said he was ashamed,
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and said he was ashamed,
shocked Jasmin Hyde.
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the school's response
shocked Jasmin Hyde.
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(BIRDS SQUAWK)
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She says she was invited by Nicholas
Sampson and his deputy, Bob Meakin,
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She says she was invited by Nicholas
to this harbourside cafe in Rose Bay.
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to this harbourside cafe in Rose Bay.
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The account of that meeting
formed part of a complaint
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that Jasmin Hyde made to the
Australian Human Rights Commission.
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In her statement to the commission
she said:
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In response to Ms Hyde's
allegations, Nicholas Sampson said:
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The school's statement
to Four Corners
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says Mr Meakin never intended
to offend and...
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In the school's response
to the Human Rights Commission,
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Mr Sampson said:
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But Cranbrook WAS aware
of these incidents.
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A PowerPoint seminar
presented by teachers
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had outlined all of those concerns
about boys' behaviour -
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wolf-whistling, sexually
inappropriate gifts and comments.
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It was presented in an email
titled Respectful Relationships.
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That email was sent to all
senior school staff at Cranbrook
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three years before
Jasmin Hyde made her complaint.
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"On playground duty
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"boys would moan as if making
orgasm noises when I walked past."
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Three months ago
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the Human Rights Commission upheld
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Jasmin Hyde's claims of sexual
discrimination at Cranbrook,
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including failure to provide
breastfeeding facilities for her
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and a failure to find a car space
when she was pregnant.
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The commission doesn't have the power
to make decisions
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about harassment
by students aged under 18.
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The man overseeing all of this
has been Nicholas Sampson.
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Mr Sampson arrived at Cranbrook
from the United Kingdom in 2012.
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Mr Sampson arrived at Cranbrook
A 2021 report revealed
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A 2021 report revealed
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he was the second-highest paid
A 2021 report revealed
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he was the second-highest paid
principal in Australia.
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Well, good morning, everybody,
and welcome to this assembly.
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Good morning, everyone, and welcome
to this morning's assembly.
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Good morning, everyone, and welcome
Good morning, everybody.
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Good morning, everybody.
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It's good to welcome you
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to this final orthodox assembly
of this term.
It's good to welcome you
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to this final orthodox assembly
of this term.
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My first impressions were here was
someone who was a great orator.
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My first impressions were here was
Like, he was incredible.
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Like, he was incredible.
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He could hold an audience with no
Like, he was incredible.
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He could hold an audience with no
notes and he could just captivate.
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Mr Sampson lives rent-free
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in a stone house on campus
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overlooking Sydney Harbour.
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He shares the home with his partner,
a Cranbrook parent.
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Ah!
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How'd you go?
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Well, um...
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..as expected.
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Former Cranbrook economics teacher
..as expected.
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Former Cranbrook economics teacher
Fiona Richards
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feels bitterly let down
by Nicholas Sampson.
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She spoke to Four Corners
after her meeting with the headmaster
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about her workplace complaint
about bullying.
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about her workplace complaint
No acknowledgement that, um...
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No acknowledgement that, um...
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..it was, um...
it was due to workplace bullying.
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..it was, um...
How did that make you feel?
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How did that make you feel?
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Oh, like I felt for the last...
How did that make you feel?
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Oh, like I felt for the last...
last many months -
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Oh, like I felt for the last...
marginalised, just...not heard.
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marginalised, just...not heard.
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One thing I asked for, um...
was an apology.
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But, um...
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Did you get one?
No.
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Why is it important to hear
those words from Nicholas Sampson?
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Because he's at the top.
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He's presiding over these people,
this culture.
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And if the message doesn't come
from him, then nothing changes.
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Fiona was a former corporate lawyer
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who found her love of teaching
Fiona was a former corporate lawyer
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who found her love of teaching
later in life.
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A senior teacher
who sat in on her classes
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when she started at Cranbrook
in 2022
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assessed them as 'excellent'.
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But things soured
when Fiona suggested
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what she thought
were fairly straightforward changes
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to the commerce course.
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What followed was a series
of complaints about her own work.
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What followed was a series
I felt like this was a classic case
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I felt like this was a classic case
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of victimisation,
I felt like this was a classic case
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of victimisation,
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of someone
immediately becoming the problem
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when they've raised
some legitimate concerns.
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For the first time
in her long career
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For the first time
Fiona became so stressed
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Fiona became so stressed
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her doctor advised her not to work.
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She made
her doctor advised her not to work.
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She made
a worker's compensation claim,
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She made
and her statement to the insurer
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and her statement to the insurer
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catalogues multiple minor allegations
being levelled against her
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in meetings
with senior men at the school.
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They include being late for debating
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when she was travelling from
an economics conference across town,
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not attending after-hours activities
on a day that she was sick,
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being abrupt to staff
at the sick bay.
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I've never felt
so disrespected before as a female.
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And, um...I've never felt
so humiliated in my working career.
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And how were you
at the end of this process?
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Broken.
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Distressed. Anxious.
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Panicked.
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Cranbrook's insurer upheld Fiona
Richards' workplace injury.
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But Cranbrook didn't accept this
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and asked the insurer
But Cranbrook didn't accept this
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and asked the insurer
to review that finding.
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That review found once again
in Fiona's favour.
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But Cranbrook
did their own investigation.
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The person who conducted it
didn't interview Fiona,
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and she doesn't know
who that person was.
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and she doesn't know
It's a totally unfair process.
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It's a totally unfair process.
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It lacks transparency
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and fair consideration
It lacks transparency
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and fair consideration
of everyone's perspectives.
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Fiona thought long and hard
about speaking out.
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Fiona thought long and hard
I am desperate for things to change
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I am desperate for things to change
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and for no other female teacher
I am desperate for things to change
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and for no other female teacher
to experience what I've experienced.
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and for no other female teacher
I wouldn't be here today
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I wouldn't be here today
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if I wasn't aware
that I was standing on the shoulders
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of other people who've been through
similar experiences
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of other people who've been through
and at great personal cost.
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and at great personal cost.
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In its statement, Cranbrook says
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In its statement, Cranbrook says
fairness was provided" to Fiona
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it was, "satisfied that procedural
fairness was provided" to Fiona
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and the matter
was handled appropriately.
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and the matter
was handled appropriately.
(BIRDS TWITTER)
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(BIRDS TWITTER)
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Cranbrook
(BIRDS TWITTER)
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Cranbrook
is not the first elite school
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where Nicholas Sampson's leadership
has been questioned.
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For three years until 2004
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he was headmaster
at Victoria's Geelong Grammar School.
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In 2016, much to the concern
of many in the Cranbrook community,
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In 2016, much to the concern
the Child Abuse Royal Commission
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the Child Abuse Royal Commission
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made multiple findings about Nicholas
the Child Abuse Royal Commission
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made multiple findings about Nicholas
Sampson's historical handling
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of the case of a later convicted
paedophile at Geelong Grammar.
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of the case of a later convicted
Until now
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Until now
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the two men who blew the whistle
on that episode
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have chosen to remain anonymous.
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Those two brothers now live
on opposite sides of the world.
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They've decided to tell their story
for the first time to Four Corners.
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We went to meet Shane O'Hare
in Launceston in Tasmania.
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He's a prominent
chief executive officer,
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and it's been a huge decision for him
to speak out.
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I wanted to start by asking you,
Shane, why are you here?
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Well, for many years, I've, um...
I wanted to start by asking you,
Shane, why are you here?
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Well, for many years, I've, um...
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..kept quiet about my situation
with sexual abuse.
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..kept quiet about my situation
with sexual abuse.
I do feel a real sense
of responsibility to tell my story,
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I do feel a real sense
of responsibility to tell my story,
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I do feel a real sense
which is why I'm here.
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which is why I'm here.
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But it's also to those
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that are running the schools,
the institutions,
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it's to the, um...
and to the students,
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00:24:03,940 --> 00:24:04,180
it's to the, um...
um...that...
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um...that...
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..to raise the awareness
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and to ensure that this thing
gets stamped out forever.
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A long way from Launceston
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in a small town
outside of Toronto, Canada,
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in a small town
we met Shane's brother, Jeff O'Hare.
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we met Shane's brother, Jeff O'Hare.
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Jeff, why are you here?
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Why are you choosing
to speak out now?
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I'm a firm believer in justice,
Why are you choosing
to speak out now?
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I'm a firm believer in justice,
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but particularly
in the safety of all people,
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and particularly children.
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Shane and Jeff were boarders
at Geelong Grammar in the '70s,
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when a house tutor began
to take an unusual interest in Shane.
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when a house tutor began
The man's name was Jonathan Harvey.
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The man's name was Jonathan Harvey.
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Harvey repeatedly sexually assaulted
Shane over two years
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Harvey repeatedly sexually assaulted
from when Shane was 16.
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from when Shane was 16.
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Many years later
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Harvey would be convicted
of 10 acts of gross indecency.
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So, it's a very, um...
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It's a very difficult thing
to live with, um...
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..with the fact that you have been
sexually abused when you were young.
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..with the fact that you have been
You live with it every day.
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You live with it every day.
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You feel quite guilty.
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00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:39,420
You feel betrayed.
491
00:25:41,860 --> 00:25:44,820
Jeff O'Hare is an Anglican priest.
492
00:25:44,820 --> 00:25:47,500
He had no idea
about his brother's abuse
493
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:51,340
when he went back to their old school
as chaplain.
494
00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:58,020
At the time Jonathan Harvey was still
teaching mathematics at Geelong.
495
00:25:59,860 --> 00:26:03,500
Before the 2004 school year began,
496
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:03,740
Shane finally told police and
Before the 2004 school year began,
497
00:26:03,740 --> 00:26:08,460
Shane finally told police and
his brother what Harvey did to him.
498
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:13,300
What was the feeling as a brother?
499
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:17,140
Um...
500
00:26:18,580 --> 00:26:20,380
Devastation
501
00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:24,260
that I couldn't be there for him.
502
00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:35,620
Jeff reported Jonathan Harvey
to headmaster, Nicholas Sampson.
503
00:26:35,620 --> 00:26:39,860
Shane wanted his name
to be kept confidential.
504
00:26:43,660 --> 00:26:49,700
I wanted him to take immediate
action to investigate, obviously,
505
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:53,820
to bring the perpetrator
to some level of justice here.
506
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,900
I approached Nick and said,
"I'd like to...I've got to...
507
00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:59,500
"I need to have a confidential
conversation with you."
508
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:03,420
And, you know,
he immediately responded
509
00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:07,580
that he knew that these things
had been going on
510
00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:09,220
with this particular person.
511
00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:14,700
He referred to him
as "an evil, manipulative person"
512
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:18,180
and that "we've been trying
to get rid of him for years."
513
00:27:19,740 --> 00:27:22,660
In his testimony
to the Royal Commission
514
00:27:22,660 --> 00:27:22,900
In his testimony
Nicholas Sampson denied saying this.
515
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:25,700
Nicholas Sampson denied saying this.
516
00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:27,860
Nonetheless, Jeff believed
517
00:27:27,860 --> 00:27:28,100
that, with an accused paedophile
Nonetheless, Jeff believed
518
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:31,100
that, with an accused paedophile
in his midst,
519
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:31,340
that, with an accused paedophile
the headmaster would act immediately.
520
00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:34,460
the headmaster would act immediately.
521
00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:35,460
Absolutely.
522
00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:35,700
I mean, I actually expected that
Absolutely.
523
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:39,180
I mean, I actually expected that
Jonathan would be gone the next day.
524
00:27:39,180 --> 00:27:41,220
And, so...
But he wasn't.
525
00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:41,460
And, so...
No, he wasn't.
526
00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:42,500
No, he wasn't.
527
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:44,260
(CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK)
528
00:27:44,260 --> 00:27:44,500
Instead Nicholas Sampson, who was
(CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK)
529
00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:49,060
Instead Nicholas Sampson, who was
leaving Geelong Grammar mid-year,
530
00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:54,260
allowed Harvey to keep teaching
at the school for almost a year.
531
00:27:54,260 --> 00:27:56,260
JONATHAN HARVEY:
Mr Sampson told me that,
532
00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:56,540
whilst no formal allegations
JONATHAN HARVEY:
Mr Sampson told me that,
533
00:27:56,540 --> 00:28:00,460
whilst no formal allegations
had been made,
534
00:28:00,460 --> 00:28:00,700
whilst no formal allegations
um...he thought it would be sensible
535
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:03,740
um...he thought it would be sensible
536
00:28:03,740 --> 00:28:06,220
for me to retire
at the end of the year.
537
00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:10,660
Well, I think
that was absolutely disgraceful.
538
00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:10,900
Well, I think
That in any circumstances
539
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:13,140
That in any circumstances
540
00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:17,180
he should have been immediately
suspended, um...pending...
541
00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:18,460
..pending an investigation.
542
00:28:19,780 --> 00:28:24,180
Mr Sampson did not alert authorities
to the allegations about Harvey,
543
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:27,740
and the Royal Commission
found in 2016
544
00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:32,020
that he should have notified
the Victorian Institute of Teaching.
545
00:28:32,020 --> 00:28:35,020
You had allegations
which you regarded as serious
546
00:28:35,020 --> 00:28:37,180
that Harvey
had sexually abused a boy.
547
00:28:37,180 --> 00:28:38,900
Jonathan Harvey retired
548
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:41,540
without the allegations
of sexual abuse
549
00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:45,260
ever being disclosed
in the school's records,
550
00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:45,540
and Nicholas Sampson approved
ever being disclosed
a $64,000 payout
in the school's records,
551
00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:50,140
and Nicholas Sampson approved
a $64,000 payout
552
00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:51,660
for an extra year of work
553
00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:51,860
for an extra year of work
Harvey did not do.
554
00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:53,700
Harvey did not do.
555
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:53,940
Do you agree that,
that being the position,
Harvey did not do.
556
00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:58,700
Do you agree that,
that being the position,
557
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:05,020
that survivors of child sexual abuse
be entitled to think,
558
00:29:05,020 --> 00:29:06,540
in your estimation,
559
00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:09,140
it's a totally unsatisfactory
response?
560
00:29:10,780 --> 00:29:15,260
Now... Now it's been...
it's been understood...
561
00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:18,340
..and the scale of...
562
00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:18,580
..well, his conduct
..and the scale of...
563
00:29:18,580 --> 00:29:22,860
..well, his conduct
has been made clear,
564
00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:24,580
..yes, I do. Um...
565
00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:26,460
I, um...
566
00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:30,980
I've heard what people have said
about what they have suffered.
567
00:29:30,980 --> 00:29:33,660
It is heart-rending, astonishing
568
00:29:33,660 --> 00:29:35,500
and it's a betrayal.
569
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:35,700
(BIRDS TWITTER)
and it's a betrayal.
570
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:37,780
(BIRDS TWITTER)
571
00:29:37,780 --> 00:29:39,460
Mr Sampson would later say
572
00:29:39,460 --> 00:29:43,980
the arrangement with Harvey
was not a sweetheart deal.
573
00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:46,700
Well, yes, it was. (LAUGHS)
574
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:46,900
What else could it have been
Well, yes, it was. (LAUGHS)
575
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:49,180
What else could it have been
576
00:29:49,180 --> 00:29:54,340
after he knew why he was retiring
Harvey? I mean... Or dismissing.
577
00:29:54,340 --> 00:29:54,580
after he knew why he was retiring
Harvey? I mean... Or dismissing.
I mean, retirement is a joke.
578
00:29:54,580 --> 00:29:57,620
I mean, retirement is a joke.
579
00:29:57,620 --> 00:30:00,100
He should have been dismissed
immediately.
580
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:03,540
How much were you paid
in the first instance
581
00:30:03,540 --> 00:30:07,020
in an ex-gratia compensation payment
by Geelong Grammar School?
582
00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:07,260
in an ex-gratia compensation payment
I was paid approximately $23,000.
583
00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:11,060
I was paid approximately $23,000.
584
00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:16,620
Nicholas Sampson repeatedly referred
in the Royal commission
585
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:16,860
Nicholas Sampson repeatedly referred
to Shane's request for anonymity,
586
00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:19,300
to Shane's request for anonymity,
587
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:23,540
insisting his actions
were informed by the victim's wishes.
588
00:30:23,540 --> 00:30:23,820
And I do understand that,
insisting his actions
although I was being pragmatic,
were informed by the victim's wishes.
589
00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:28,580
And I do understand that,
although I was being pragmatic,
590
00:30:28,580 --> 00:30:31,740
um...and trying to achieve
the victim's wishes,
591
00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:36,620
that some of that language
just isn't good enough.
592
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:39,460
Was it your wish
593
00:30:39,460 --> 00:30:43,620
that Jonathan Harvey remain
in his job until the end of the year?
594
00:30:43,620 --> 00:30:43,860
that Jonathan Harvey remain
Not in the slightest.
595
00:30:43,860 --> 00:30:45,860
Not in the slightest.
596
00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:51,340
Before he left Geelong Grammar
597
00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:55,020
Nicholas Sampson
wrote to Jonathan Harvey.
598
00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:59,060
He thanked Harvey
for his "outstanding service,"
599
00:30:59,060 --> 00:31:03,660
described him as a "wonderful
teacher, an outstanding housemaster,
600
00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:03,900
described him as a "wonderful
"a fine and thoughtful colleague"
601
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:05,820
"a fine and thoughtful colleague"
602
00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:08,220
and "tremendous and committed."
603
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:12,340
"Thank you for your friendship
and kindness towards my family.
604
00:31:12,340 --> 00:31:12,580
"We will keep in touch
and kindness towards my family.
605
00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:13,820
"We will keep in touch
606
00:31:13,820 --> 00:31:16,740
"and look forward to seeing you
before too long."
607
00:31:17,780 --> 00:31:21,180
It was about the boys' club.
That's what it was about.
608
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:21,420
It's just a complete and utter lack
It was about the boys' club.
That's what it was about.
609
00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:23,500
It's just a complete and utter lack
610
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:26,580
of respect for me as an individual
611
00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:28,060
in a school
612
00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:28,300
in a school
that was supposed
to be caring for me.
613
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:32,660
that was supposed
to be caring for me.
614
00:31:32,660 --> 00:31:32,900
that was supposed
If you had him in front of you now,
615
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:35,180
If you had him in front of you now,
616
00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:35,420
what would you say
If you had him in front of you now,
617
00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:37,700
what would you say
to Nicholas Sampson?
618
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:41,260
I'd say,
"What were you thinking, Nicholas?"
619
00:31:42,220 --> 00:31:44,860
In a Cranbrook statement
to Four Corners
620
00:31:44,860 --> 00:31:48,340
Mr Sampson rejects that
there was a boys' club at Geelong.
621
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:48,580
Mr Sampson rejects that
The school said:
622
00:31:48,580 --> 00:31:50,220
The school said:
623
00:31:53,220 --> 00:31:54,580
Well, for me...
624
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:56,580
For me, it wasn't a long time ago.
625
00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:58,740
I think that anything,
626
00:31:58,740 --> 00:31:58,980
whether it's today or whether
I think that anything,
627
00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:02,940
whether it's today or whether
it's 10 years ago or 20 years ago,
628
00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:06,260
the same level of care
and responsibility
629
00:32:06,260 --> 00:32:10,140
are required from a senior officer
in the school,
630
00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:10,380
are required from a senior officer
as he was the most senior officer.
631
00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:12,140
as he was the most senior officer.
632
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:18,260
Geelong Grammar told Four Corners
it was committed to:
633
00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:34,340
As news of Nicholas Sampson's
handling of the Geelong Grammar case
634
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:34,580
As news of Nicholas Sampson's
hit the Cranbrook community,
635
00:32:34,580 --> 00:32:36,260
hit the Cranbrook community,
636
00:32:36,260 --> 00:32:41,260
it caused considerable consternation
amongst some parents.
637
00:32:41,260 --> 00:32:41,500
it caused considerable consternation
Those parents were horrified
638
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:43,180
Those parents were horrified
639
00:32:43,180 --> 00:32:43,420
when Cranbrook's council threw
Those parents were horrified
640
00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:48,140
when Cranbrook's council threw
its support behind the headmaster.
641
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:51,860
(READS) "Why the school
would place itself in that position
642
00:32:51,860 --> 00:32:52,860
"is beyond me,
643
00:32:52,860 --> 00:32:54,900
"especially given his own evidence.
644
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:55,100
"especially given his own evidence.
"There is a moral failure here,
645
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:56,900
"There is a moral failure here,
646
00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:59,500
"even if there might not be
a specific legal one."
647
00:33:00,460 --> 00:33:04,140
Cranbrook parent Brent Jackson
wrote to the council,
648
00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:04,380
Cranbrook parent Brent Jackson
alarmed at its support of Mr Sampson.
649
00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:07,460
alarmed at its support of Mr Sampson.
650
00:33:07,460 --> 00:33:09,220
In his own testimony,
651
00:33:09,220 --> 00:33:13,820
without the legal obligation
to the Victorian teaching authority,
652
00:33:13,820 --> 00:33:16,420
without warning
the incoming headmaster,
653
00:33:16,420 --> 00:33:16,660
without warning
without putting any checks in place,
654
00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:18,900
without putting any checks in place,
655
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:21,100
without any serious investigation,
656
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:25,180
he left the teacher to teach out
the year while he went to England.
657
00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:25,420
he left the teacher to teach out
Well, I think, uh...
658
00:33:25,420 --> 00:33:27,660
Well, I think, uh...
659
00:33:27,660 --> 00:33:30,020
..in all the communications
we received from the school,
660
00:33:30,020 --> 00:33:34,260
it always said that his number-one
concern was child protection
661
00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:37,060
and that was
his most important concern.
662
00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:41,900
And yet this didn't seem
to match that.
663
00:33:44,540 --> 00:33:48,340
Three months after Nicholas Sampson
gave his evidence
664
00:33:48,340 --> 00:33:49,660
in the Royal Commission,
665
00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:53,460
Cranbrook's council
agreed to extend his contract.
666
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:11,980
The Royal Commission
did make multiple findings
667
00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:14,220
which were critical
of Nicholas Sampson,
668
00:34:14,220 --> 00:34:17,860
including that his friendly letters
to Jonathan Harvey
669
00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:22,860
were misleading about the real reason
for Harvey's retirement.
670
00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:25,820
Cranbrook's new chair,
Roger Massey-Greene,
671
00:34:25,820 --> 00:34:29,540
sent the council
what he proposed writing to parents.
672
00:34:29,540 --> 00:34:35,220
He said he did so on the advice of
a crisis communications strategist.
673
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:50,420
'Exemplary' is the description
that Travis Mathews disputes.
674
00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:54,700
For the first time
Travis is telling his story
675
00:34:54,700 --> 00:35:00,180
about what he says happened to him
at Cranbrook when he was 13.
676
00:35:00,180 --> 00:35:03,620
Travis had been a ward of the state
in Western Australia
677
00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:03,860
Travis had been a ward of the state
since he was a baby.
678
00:35:03,860 --> 00:35:05,220
since he was a baby.
679
00:35:05,220 --> 00:35:07,100
His mother was dead.
680
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:07,340
The state was paying Cranbrook
His mother was dead.
681
00:35:07,340 --> 00:35:10,580
The state was paying Cranbrook
for Travis's tuition
682
00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:15,300
because his older sister
was working at a nearby naval base.
683
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:17,580
ADRIAN BARAKAT:
This was an opportunity
684
00:35:17,580 --> 00:35:21,260
for Travis to come to Sydney,
to go to a private school,
685
00:35:21,260 --> 00:35:21,540
where the opportunities
from there were infinite,
for Travis to come to Sydney,
to go to a private school,
686
00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:24,100
where the opportunities
from there were infinite,
687
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,700
and instead
it became, you know, his nightmare.
688
00:35:28,940 --> 00:35:31,420
Travis says the nightmare began
689
00:35:31,420 --> 00:35:35,100
shortly after he started in Year 8
at Cranbrook,
690
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:39,180
when he was repeatedly abused
by an older boarder.
691
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:42,500
So, you were 13?
692
00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:44,940
Yeah, I was 13 at the time.
693
00:35:44,940 --> 00:35:50,820
He, on a number of occasions,
got quite violent
694
00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:52,780
and aggressive.
695
00:35:52,780 --> 00:35:53,020
He forced me
to perform oral sex on him,
and aggressive.
696
00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:57,340
He forced me
to perform oral sex on him,
697
00:35:57,340 --> 00:35:59,380
um...in his room
698
00:35:59,380 --> 00:35:59,580
um...in his room
on a number of occasions
699
00:35:59,580 --> 00:36:01,940
on a number of occasions
700
00:36:01,940 --> 00:36:02,180
and threatened
on a number of occasions
701
00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:04,580
and threatened
that, if I told anyone,
702
00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:10,260
he would make my life hell,
basically.
703
00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:10,500
he would make my life hell,
And you now know as an adult
704
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:12,060
And you now know as an adult
705
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:15,460
that as a 13-year-old
you can't actually consent to that?
706
00:36:15,460 --> 00:36:17,380
No, you can't consent to that.
707
00:36:17,380 --> 00:36:19,140
(PHONE RINGS)
708
00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:21,860
Travis Mathews is suing Cranbrook,
709
00:36:21,860 --> 00:36:24,060
and his lawyer had earlier discovered
710
00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:28,020
that the school had already
conducted an investigation
711
00:36:28,020 --> 00:36:33,380
into the older student and
his alleged touching of other boys.
712
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:38,060
Travis says
he was abused for some months
713
00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:43,860
until he says the older boy
filmed him without his knowledge.
714
00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:44,100
until he says the older boy
I think my perpetrator realised
715
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:45,860
I think my perpetrator realised
716
00:36:45,860 --> 00:36:49,140
that if I was to ever come out,
717
00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:51,220
he would be looked in a bad light.
718
00:36:51,220 --> 00:36:56,700
So, he told me to make
sexual advances on him in his room,
719
00:36:56,700 --> 00:37:00,140
and then recorded me
making those sexual advances,
720
00:37:00,140 --> 00:37:02,380
and used that as evidence
721
00:37:02,380 --> 00:37:03,700
to tell the school
722
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:08,740
that I had been the one purporting
all of this at the age of 13.
723
00:37:10,660 --> 00:37:13,460
When Cranbrook
discovered the video recording,
724
00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:16,300
Travis was sent
to a school counsellor
725
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:16,540
Travis was sent
and finally disclosed the abuse.
726
00:37:16,540 --> 00:37:19,060
and finally disclosed the abuse.
727
00:37:19,060 --> 00:37:22,180
Police commenced an investigation.
728
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:25,100
The older boy remained at the school.
729
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:30,460
Travis says he often saw him
and felt very afraid.
730
00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:36,020
I think the headmaster should
have removed him from the school,
731
00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:39,580
especially after the numerous
instances of sexual abuse
732
00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:39,820
especially after the numerous
that had come to light.
733
00:37:39,820 --> 00:37:41,700
that had come to light.
734
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:41,940
It just wasn't OK
that had come to light.
735
00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:44,380
It just wasn't OK
that he was there.
736
00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:49,220
Just after Travis disclosed
his sexual abuse,
737
00:37:49,220 --> 00:37:52,340
his housemaster
emailed Cranbrook staff.
738
00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:06,460
Documents kept by the housemaster
739
00:38:06,460 --> 00:38:08,980
focus on Travis being 'annoying'.
740
00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:09,220
The housemaster
doesn't once write
focus on Travis being 'annoying'.
741
00:38:09,220 --> 00:38:11,740
The housemaster
doesn't once write
742
00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:14,740
anything that expresses
empathy for a child
743
00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:18,620
who is the alleged victim
of sexual assaults.
744
00:38:18,620 --> 00:38:18,860
who is the alleged victim
of sexual assaults.
The fact that he didn't realise
745
00:38:18,860 --> 00:38:20,420
The fact that he didn't realise
746
00:38:20,420 --> 00:38:25,220
any of these instances
were a cry for help
747
00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:29,340
I think was extremely traumatic
for me.
748
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:33,860
Travis Mathews eventually told police
749
00:38:33,860 --> 00:38:37,180
he did not want to proceed
with charges.
750
00:38:37,180 --> 00:38:41,740
I was very much under the impression
that the courts wouldn't believe me.
751
00:38:41,740 --> 00:38:43,500
The school didn't believe me.
752
00:38:44,540 --> 00:38:49,180
A senior Cranbrook teacher
sent a group email with the news.
753
00:38:54,580 --> 00:38:58,180
Nicholas Sampson was included
in multiple emails
754
00:38:58,180 --> 00:38:58,420
Nicholas Sampson was included
about Travis Mathews' allegations.
755
00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:01,100
about Travis Mathews' allegations.
756
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:05,260
Not once does the Cranbrook
headmaster write a comment
757
00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:07,740
about the school's response to Travis
758
00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:11,260
nor did he ever
personally meet Travis.
759
00:39:12,340 --> 00:39:17,900
When you have a series of serious
sexual abuses being reported,
760
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:18,180
for the principal
to not even weigh in,
When you have a series of serious
sexual abuses being reported,
761
00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:21,860
for the principal
to not even weigh in,
762
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:25,340
not a skerrick of evidence
that there was an email
763
00:39:25,340 --> 00:39:25,620
not a skerrick of evidence
that there was an email
or a concern expressed by him
or any guidance given by him
764
00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:29,820
or a concern expressed by him
or any guidance given by him
765
00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:33,900
to his staff in relation
to how this should be managed,
766
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:34,140
to his staff in relation
nothing,
767
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:35,180
nothing,
768
00:39:35,180 --> 00:39:38,100
that is not exemplary,
that is substandard.
769
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:38,340
that is not exemplary,
Cranbrook says it:
770
00:39:38,340 --> 00:39:40,860
Cranbrook says it:
771
00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:47,300
And:
772
00:39:54,260 --> 00:39:56,980
Travis Mathews
is now a serving member
773
00:39:56,980 --> 00:39:57,220
Travis Mathews
of the Australian Defence Force.
774
00:39:57,220 --> 00:39:59,260
of the Australian Defence Force.
775
00:39:59,260 --> 00:40:02,140
11 years after the alleged abuse,
776
00:40:02,140 --> 00:40:05,180
he finally commenced
legal proceedings
777
00:40:05,180 --> 00:40:09,460
in the New South Wales Supreme Court
last month.
778
00:40:09,460 --> 00:40:13,460
No person should have to go through
what I went through.
779
00:40:13,460 --> 00:40:13,740
No person should have to go through
what I went through.
I felt that I was sort of robbed
of my high-school experience.
780
00:40:13,740 --> 00:40:18,220
I felt that I was sort of robbed
of my high-school experience.
781
00:40:21,140 --> 00:40:25,780
It's a feeling shared by some alumni
of another elite school
782
00:40:25,780 --> 00:40:26,020
It's a feeling shared by some alumni
many thousands of kilometres away.
783
00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:28,820
many thousands of kilometres away.
784
00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:32,580
The school is Marlborough College.
785
00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:32,820
Nicholas Sampson served as master -
The school is Marlborough College.
786
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:36,780
Nicholas Sampson served as master -
equivalent to principal -
787
00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:43,580
between leaving Geelong Grammar in
2004 and joining Cranbrook in 2012.
788
00:40:46,060 --> 00:40:49,820
It's one of the most prestigious
schools in the United Kingdom.
789
00:40:49,820 --> 00:40:51,980
It was once attended
by Kate Middleton,
790
00:40:51,980 --> 00:40:52,220
It was once attended
now the Princess of Wales,
791
00:40:52,220 --> 00:40:54,060
now the Princess of Wales,
792
00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:56,940
and other members
of the Royal Family.
793
00:40:56,940 --> 00:41:00,180
Four Corners contacted
numerous alumni
794
00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:00,420
Four Corners contacted
who attended the school
795
00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:01,740
who attended the school
796
00:41:01,740 --> 00:41:05,820
during the period
that Nicholas Sampson was master.
797
00:41:05,820 --> 00:41:09,300
What emerged
from the experiences they described
798
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:09,540
What emerged
was a very distinct picture.
799
00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:12,540
was a very distinct picture.
800
00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:12,740
I know some girls who had such...
was a very distinct picture.
801
00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:16,420
I know some girls who had such...
802
00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:19,140
..such difficult experiences
at Marlborough
803
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:19,420
..such difficult experiences
at Marlborough
with the boys in their house
and in their year
804
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:21,740
with the boys in their house
and in their year
805
00:41:21,740 --> 00:41:23,220
that they
haven't been the same since.
806
00:41:23,220 --> 00:41:23,460
that they
And we've spoken to some...
807
00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:25,100
And we've spoken to some...
808
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:27,300
Marlborough College graduate Lucy
809
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,980
describes a culture where girls
were completely outnumbered
810
00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:31,260
and sexist behaviour was tolerated
and even encouraged by the teachers.
describes a culture where girls
were completely outnumbered
811
00:41:31,260 --> 00:41:35,820
and sexist behaviour was tolerated
and even encouraged by the teachers.
812
00:41:35,820 --> 00:41:36,100
and sexist behaviour was tolerated
and even encouraged by the teachers.
She and other alumni
we spoke to off camera
813
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:40,100
She and other alumni
we spoke to off camera
814
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:42,900
who attended Marlborough
during the Sampson years
815
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:45,700
describe persistent harassment
of girls,
816
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:50,140
including having water balloons
thrown at them from high windows
817
00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:52,380
to make their blouses see-through,
818
00:41:52,380 --> 00:41:57,340
being humiliated at assembly with
sexual innuendo in front of teachers,
819
00:41:57,340 --> 00:41:57,580
being humiliated at assembly with
pornography pasted on bedroom walls.
820
00:41:57,580 --> 00:42:01,220
pornography pasted on bedroom walls.
821
00:42:01,220 --> 00:42:03,300
There were games, um...
822
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:03,540
..revolving around
There were games, um...
823
00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:05,860
..revolving around
the boys' genitals.
824
00:42:05,860 --> 00:42:07,500
You'd be sitting on the sofa
in your common room,
825
00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:07,740
You'd be sitting on the sofa
and a boy would come over
826
00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:09,580
and a boy would come over
827
00:42:09,580 --> 00:42:14,540
and either put his finger
on your shoulder from behind,
828
00:42:14,540 --> 00:42:16,060
um...or his penis,
829
00:42:16,060 --> 00:42:20,220
and you either had to guess
which one it was
830
00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:22,380
or just, you know,
the game was sort of see
831
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:24,980
how long it would take you to notice
that it was there.
832
00:42:26,220 --> 00:42:28,540
Once this game went further
833
00:42:28,540 --> 00:42:35,460
and a boy in my house
actually put his testicles on, um...
834
00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:36,740
..my friend's head.
835
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:39,980
Graduates recall
836
00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:44,140
the school's long-running
satirical magazine, The Heretick,
837
00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:47,380
sexualised and objectified
the girls.
838
00:42:47,380 --> 00:42:50,740
Lucy remembers
one particular edition.
839
00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:56,700
It was of boys sitting in
the lunch hall holding up numbers,
840
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:58,540
rating the girls
as they walked past -
841
00:42:58,540 --> 00:43:01,180
so, the kind of thing you expect
at a sheep show or a dog show
842
00:43:01,180 --> 00:43:01,420
so, the kind of thing you expect
or something like that -
843
00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:03,340
or something like that -
844
00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:05,380
on their levels of hotness.
845
00:43:05,380 --> 00:43:05,620
I mean, you know, this was a
on their levels of hotness.
846
00:43:05,620 --> 00:43:08,860
I mean, you know, this was a
magazine that was known about by...
847
00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:11,900
(EXHALES HEAVILY) ..by the teachers.
848
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:13,660
It was signed off by teachers.
849
00:43:13,660 --> 00:43:18,740
I don't think there's any way that a
senior member of staff or the master
850
00:43:18,740 --> 00:43:22,860
could claim to not know
what the culture was like.
851
00:43:22,860 --> 00:43:28,540
I think Nicholas Sampson should have
been more involved in the culture
852
00:43:28,540 --> 00:43:30,900
and trying to change it
or at least regulate it.
853
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:31,140
and trying to change it
What would you say to parents
854
00:43:31,140 --> 00:43:32,380
What would you say to parents
855
00:43:32,380 --> 00:43:35,740
who are thinking of sending
their girls to a school like this?
856
00:43:35,740 --> 00:43:37,020
Don't do it.
857
00:43:37,980 --> 00:43:40,580
Nicholas Sampson
says he's never heard
858
00:43:40,580 --> 00:43:40,820
Nicholas Sampson
of these very serious allegations
859
00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:43,780
of these very serious allegations
860
00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:45,180
and they stand in contrast
861
00:43:45,180 --> 00:43:49,700
with an independent school safety
report on Marlborough College.
862
00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:55,460
VIDEO VOICEOVER: We are now moving
to become co-educational.
863
00:43:55,460 --> 00:43:57,980
We are inviting girls
to join our school
864
00:43:57,980 --> 00:44:01,260
for Year 7 and Year 11, 2026.
865
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:01,460
At Cranbrook
for Year 7 and Year 11, 2026.
866
00:44:01,460 --> 00:44:02,580
At Cranbrook
867
00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:02,820
At Cranbrook
to make the school co-ed.
868
00:44:02,820 --> 00:44:07,420
Nicholas Sampson has led the charge
to make the school co-ed.
869
00:44:21,540 --> 00:44:25,380
But, while the Cranbrook council
was supportive of co-ed,
870
00:44:25,380 --> 00:44:28,180
Mr Sampson's plan in 2022 -
871
00:44:28,180 --> 00:44:30,180
to have a billionaire parent
872
00:44:30,180 --> 00:44:34,020
fund 40 girls coming to the school
the following year -
873
00:44:34,020 --> 00:44:34,260
fund 40 girls coming to the school
was rejected by the council.
874
00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:37,100
was rejected by the council.
875
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:38,580
Because it seems like,
876
00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:38,820
before we go co-ed,
we've got a whole lot of things
Because it seems like,
877
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:40,500
before we go co-ed,
we've got a whole lot of things
878
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:44,220
to address and learn about
and improve upon,
879
00:44:44,220 --> 00:44:47,100
because going co-ed
seems absurd at this moment in time.
880
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:47,380
because going co-ed
seems absurd at this moment in time.
But then there was
an enormous pushback about,
881
00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:49,700
But then there was
an enormous pushback about,
882
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:51,140
"We've got to go co-ed tomorrow."
883
00:44:52,220 --> 00:44:54,420
The council was also worried
884
00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:58,220
about the allegations from women
of a toxic culture.
885
00:44:58,220 --> 00:44:58,460
about the allegations from women
It proposed a cultural review,
886
00:44:58,460 --> 00:45:00,940
It proposed a cultural review,
887
00:45:00,940 --> 00:45:03,100
which didn't happen.
888
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:05,580
They are on the council
889
00:45:05,580 --> 00:45:09,740
to hire the headmaster
and hold him accountable.
890
00:45:09,740 --> 00:45:09,980
to hire the headmaster
That's the basics of governance,
891
00:45:09,980 --> 00:45:12,220
That's the basics of governance,
892
00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:13,940
and it's not nitpicky.
893
00:45:15,980 --> 00:45:20,620
Former council chair, Jon North,
sent Four Corners a statement
894
00:45:20,620 --> 00:45:23,780
saying he was unable
to comment on Mr Sampson,
895
00:45:23,780 --> 00:45:24,020
but that in November 2022
saying he was unable
to comment on Mr Sampson,
896
00:45:24,020 --> 00:45:26,900
but that in November 2022
897
00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:30,700
10 of the 11 council members:
898
00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:35,940
He said:
899
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:52,700
Eventually, all but one
of the council members resigned.
900
00:45:53,660 --> 00:45:55,420
The idea of not saying anything,
901
00:45:55,420 --> 00:45:57,940
ironically, it goes against
the values of the school.
902
00:45:57,940 --> 00:46:03,260
You know, that school taught me
that speaking out is needed.
903
00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:05,380
I mean, the lives
that have been devastated,
904
00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:07,860
it's completely unacceptable.
905
00:46:09,820 --> 00:46:12,740
Cranbrook says it has:
906
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:18,020
And "there has been no victimisation"
of women at the school,
907
00:46:18,020 --> 00:46:18,260
which has:
And "there has been no victimisation"
of women at the school,
908
00:46:18,260 --> 00:46:19,580
which has:
909
00:46:41,260 --> 00:46:46,180
Four Corners received legal threats
after contacting Cranbrook,
910
00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:49,860
and Travis Mathews was threatened
with a suppression order
911
00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:54,060
that would have prevented him
from identifying himself.
912
00:46:57,140 --> 00:47:00,700
(LEAVES RUSTLE)
913
00:47:06,580 --> 00:47:12,700
It's not easy to speak up about a
powerful institution like Cranbrook.
914
00:47:13,860 --> 00:47:19,100
But these people feel
there is a higher principle at stake.
915
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:23,540
Although only
a select amount of people
916
00:47:23,540 --> 00:47:26,460
go to these sort of institutions,
917
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:29,980
those people disproportionately
go on to run our country
918
00:47:29,980 --> 00:47:30,220
those people disproportionately
and make policies and run businesses
919
00:47:30,220 --> 00:47:32,940
and make policies and run businesses
920
00:47:32,940 --> 00:47:35,580
that affect all of us.
921
00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:40,460
And the way that people are educated
and socialised and how they grow up
922
00:47:40,460 --> 00:47:43,020
and what values are ingrained
in them from a young age
923
00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:47,660
really does go on
to completely shape the future
924
00:47:47,660 --> 00:47:47,900
really does go on
of our whole country,
925
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:49,740
of our whole country,
926
00:47:49,740 --> 00:47:51,780
for better or for worse.
927
00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:58,580
Why should the rest of Australia
care about what's happening
928
00:47:58,580 --> 00:48:03,140
at this fancy school
in this fancy suburb?
929
00:48:03,140 --> 00:48:05,700
FIONA RICHARDS: Because there are
future leaders at that school.
930
00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:10,340
I just think
that this kind of culture
931
00:48:10,340 --> 00:48:14,100
shouldn't be tolerated
in any organisation,
932
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:20,500
let alone in an organisation
with impressionable young minds.
933
00:48:23,060 --> 00:48:26,100
(LEAVES RUSTLE)
934
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:32,740
(THEME MUSIC PLAYS)
935
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:51,020
Captions by Red Bee Media
936
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