1
00:00:00,980 --> 00:00:03,020
(THEME MUSIC PLAYS)

2
00:00:19,060 --> 00:00:23,860
ECHO HUI: A Chinese spy handler
messages his undercover operative.

3
00:00:30,980 --> 00:00:32,940
Both handler and agent

4
00:00:32,940 --> 00:00:33,180
are part of China's
Both handler and agent

5
00:00:33,180 --> 00:00:37,140
are part of China's
powerful secret police force...

6
00:00:38,260 --> 00:00:40,460
..a vast global network

7
00:00:40,460 --> 00:00:45,300
running covert operations
on foreign soil.

8
00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:48,740
Including right here in Australia.

9
00:00:57,740 --> 00:00:59,940
Now for the first time

10
00:00:59,940 --> 00:01:05,180
a former Chinese secret police agent
reveals his identity.

11
00:01:10,820 --> 00:01:16,220
He exposes the undercover operations
he was ordered to carry out

12
00:01:16,220 --> 00:01:20,540
and the threat
to Australia's national security.

13
00:01:20,540 --> 00:01:22,180
<font color="#ffff00">LAURA HARTH:</font>
<font color="#ffff00">These are illegal operations</font>

14
00:01:22,180 --> 00:01:24,700
<font color="#ffff00">undeclared</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to the Australian government,</font>

15
00:01:24,700 --> 00:01:26,060
<font color="#ffff00">to the Australian authorities.</font>

16
00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:30,900
He reveals the tactics
used to hunt down and silence

17
00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:34,420
those China deemed enemies
of the state.

18
00:01:37,260 --> 00:01:38,740
<font color="#ffff00">Eh?</font>

19
00:01:38,740 --> 00:01:38,980
<font color="#00ff00">DAN STANTON:</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Eh?</font>

20
00:01:38,980 --> 00:01:40,900
<font color="#00ff00">DAN STANTON:</font>
<font color="#00ff00">You have a foreign state</font>

21
00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:43,940
<font color="#00ff00">obviously</font>
<font color="#00ff00">following this young fellow,</font>

22
00:01:43,940 --> 00:01:44,180
<font color="#00ff00">obviously</font>
<font color="#00ff00">and then he dies.</font>

23
00:01:44,180 --> 00:01:45,260
<font color="#00ff00">and then he dies.</font>

24
00:01:45,260 --> 00:01:46,940
<font color="#00ff00">This is very concerning.</font>

25
00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:48,820
Are you now a target?

26
00:02:02,580 --> 00:02:05,620
<font color="#00ffff">(OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYS)</font>

27
00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:10,780
It's just before dawn

28
00:02:10,780 --> 00:02:13,300
on a bitter winter morning.

29
00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:18,060
A spy
with China's notorious secret police

30
00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:21,580
has made the dangerous decision
to flee his country.

31
00:02:30,020 --> 00:02:32,340
<font color="#00ffff">(CAR DOOR SHUTS, ENGINE STARTS)</font>

32
00:02:51,220 --> 00:02:52,940
<font color="#00ff00">(HUBBUB)</font>

33
00:02:52,940 --> 00:02:54,860
Using a student visa,

34
00:02:54,860 --> 00:02:57,860
he escapes to Thailand...

35
00:02:57,860 --> 00:02:59,300
<font color="#ffff00">(JET ENGINES WHINE)</font>

36
00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:05,060
..before boarding a flight
to his final destination, Australia.

37
00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:17,540
He heads to the headquarters

38
00:03:17,540 --> 00:03:17,780
of Australia's domestic spy agency,
He heads to the headquarters

39
00:03:17,780 --> 00:03:22,460
of Australia's domestic spy agency,
ASIO.

40
00:03:22,460 --> 00:03:22,700
of Australia's domestic spy agency,
He's ready to hand over secrets

41
00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:25,180
He's ready to hand over secrets

42
00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:29,220
he's carefully guarded
for more than a decade.

43
00:03:36,660 --> 00:03:42,980
He tells ASIO officers about
his career as an undercover agent.

44
00:03:42,980 --> 00:03:45,220
They copy his files

45
00:03:45,220 --> 00:03:51,100
and tell him not to make any further
contact with ASIO for his own safety.

46
00:04:03,740 --> 00:04:05,740
In August last year

47
00:04:05,740 --> 00:04:05,980
the ABC's Investigations unit
In August last year

48
00:04:05,980 --> 00:04:11,060
the ABC's Investigations unit
received an encrypted email.

49
00:04:11,060 --> 00:04:11,300
the ABC's Investigations unit
We didn't know it at the time,

50
00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:13,540
We didn't know it at the time,

51
00:04:13,540 --> 00:04:17,660
but it was from
this very same former spy.

52
00:04:32,980 --> 00:04:36,260
And that's where our story begins.

53
00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:38,780
I've been reporting on China

54
00:04:38,780 --> 00:04:41,700
and the Chinese government's
activities overseas

55
00:04:41,700 --> 00:04:41,940
for over a decade,
activities overseas

56
00:04:41,940 --> 00:04:43,340
for over a decade,

57
00:04:43,340 --> 00:04:43,580
for over a decade,
but what he gave me
was like nothing I'd ever seen.

58
00:04:43,580 --> 00:04:48,220
but what he gave me
was like nothing I'd ever seen.

59
00:04:48,220 --> 00:04:53,540
Hundreds of secret documents,
text messages, photos,

60
00:04:53,540 --> 00:04:53,780
Hundreds of secret documents,
voice messages, bank records,

61
00:04:53,780 --> 00:04:56,340
voice messages, bank records,

62
00:04:56,340 --> 00:04:59,260
a trove of information
he had gathered

63
00:04:59,260 --> 00:04:59,500
a trove of information
working for the most powerful arm

64
00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:01,340
working for the most powerful arm

65
00:05:01,340 --> 00:05:01,580
of the Chinese
working for the most powerful arm

66
00:05:01,580 --> 00:05:04,540
of the Chinese
intelligence apparatus.

67
00:05:07,580 --> 00:05:11,260
The spy goes by the name 'Eric'.

68
00:05:11,260 --> 00:05:16,380
He's now coming out of the shadows
at great personal risk.

69
00:05:17,340 --> 00:05:19,180
This is the first time

70
00:05:19,180 --> 00:05:23,700
anyone from China's secret police
has gone public.

71
00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:29,900
He wants to expose
China's global intelligence network

72
00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:35,580
and their clandestine operations
right here in Australia.

73
00:05:37,780 --> 00:05:40,220
Why are you doing this interview?

74
00:06:06,380 --> 00:06:09,580
Eric worked for the notorious
First Bureau

75
00:06:09,580 --> 00:06:13,380
of China's
Ministry of Public Security.

76
00:06:13,380 --> 00:06:13,620
This is China's secret police force.
Ministry of Public Security.

77
00:06:13,620 --> 00:06:17,420
This is China's secret police force.

78
00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:21,820
<font color="#00ffff">The MPS portrays itself</font>
<font color="#00ffff">as really a police service,</font>

79
00:06:21,820 --> 00:06:22,100
<font color="#00ffff">but in my mind</font>
<font color="#00ffff">they're anything but that.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">The MPS portrays itself</font>
<font color="#00ffff">as really a police service,</font>

80
00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:23,620
<font color="#00ffff">but in my mind</font>
<font color="#00ffff">they're anything but that.</font>

81
00:06:23,620 --> 00:06:26,580
<font color="#00ffff">They are, in fact,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">actually a security service</font>

82
00:06:26,580 --> 00:06:26,820
<font color="#00ffff">with a political mission.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">actually a security service</font>

83
00:06:26,820 --> 00:06:28,060
<font color="#00ffff">with a political mission.</font>

84
00:06:28,060 --> 00:06:28,300
<font color="#00ffff">with a political mission.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">Their job</font>
<font color="#00ffff">is to protect the party's status,</font>

85
00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:31,980
<font color="#00ffff">Their job</font>
<font color="#00ffff">is to protect the party's status,</font>

86
00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:32,220
<font color="#00ffff">Their job</font>
<font color="#00ffff">the Communist Party of China.</font>

87
00:06:32,220 --> 00:06:34,020
<font color="#00ffff">the Communist Party of China.</font>

88
00:06:34,020 --> 00:06:36,500
<font color="#00ffff">And when I say 'status',</font>
<font color="#00ffff">I mean control.</font>

89
00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:36,740
<font color="#00ffff">And when I say 'status',</font>
<font color="#00ffff">The party has to remain in control.</font>

90
00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:39,340
<font color="#00ffff">The party has to remain in control.</font>

91
00:06:39,340 --> 00:06:39,580
<font color="#00ff00">It's also had a role</font>
<font color="#00ff00">in trying to silence dissidents</font>
<font color="#00ffff">The party has to remain in control.</font>

92
00:06:39,580 --> 00:06:42,540
<font color="#00ff00">It's also had a role</font>
<font color="#00ff00">in trying to silence dissidents</font>

93
00:06:42,540 --> 00:06:44,780
<font color="#00ff00">as well as to map</font>
<font color="#00ff00">the dissident networks.</font>

94
00:06:44,780 --> 00:06:46,460
<font color="#00ff00">How do you intimidate,</font>
<font color="#00ff00">how do you silence</font>

95
00:06:46,460 --> 00:06:49,660
<font color="#00ff00">and how do you ensure that these</font>
<font color="#00ff00">people are not effective or active?</font>

96
00:07:00,740 --> 00:07:05,020
Do you believe there are secret
police here in Australia?

97
00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:49,220
Eric's secret life began
as a 22-year-old college student.

98
00:07:49,220 --> 00:07:54,980
An idealist, he says he joined
a US-based pro-democracy organisation

99
00:07:54,980 --> 00:08:00,580
called the China
Social Democratic Party, or CSDP.

100
00:08:15,620 --> 00:08:22,620
<font color="#00ff00">(INDISTINCT CHANTING)</font>

101
00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:28,660
As the country around him prepared
for the 2008 Beijing Olympics,

102
00:08:28,660 --> 00:08:28,900
As the country around him prepared
for the 2008 Beijing Olympics,
there was a knock at Eric's door.

103
00:08:28,900 --> 00:08:31,300
there was a knock at Eric's door.

104
00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:52,620
Eric says he was taken to a small
room at a local police station.

105
00:08:57,900 --> 00:09:00,380
The police interrogated Eric

106
00:09:00,380 --> 00:09:03,740
about his involvement
with the pro-democracy group.

107
00:09:15,100 --> 00:09:18,980
They questioned him
over several days,

108
00:09:18,980 --> 00:09:23,540
and finally he was offered
a chance at redemption.

109
00:09:29,620 --> 00:09:34,300
That redemption meant
betraying everything he believed in

110
00:09:34,300 --> 00:09:38,300
and becoming part of the murky world
of Chinese intelligence.

111
00:09:39,300 --> 00:09:43,780
One of the most extraordinary things
Eric told Four Corners

112
00:09:43,780 --> 00:09:49,980
was about a Chinese intelligence
operation on Australian soil.

113
00:10:01,300 --> 00:10:05,620
This is an actual recording
of Eric's secret-police handler

114
00:10:05,620 --> 00:10:10,620
directing him
to hunt down a target in Australia.

115
00:11:16,020 --> 00:11:21,420
This is the man who Eric was tasked
with hunting down.

116
00:11:28,060 --> 00:11:30,500
Edwin Yin is on the run,

117
00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:35,180
alone, paranoid
and unable to live a normal life.

118
00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:47,220
He says he's been under constant
surveillance by the Chinese state

119
00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:47,460
He says he's been under constant
for the past six years.

120
00:11:47,460 --> 00:11:49,860
for the past six years.

121
00:12:19,420 --> 00:12:21,620
<font color="#ffff00">(SPEAKS IN OWN LANGUAGE)</font>

122
00:12:21,620 --> 00:12:26,260
Edwin is being targeted
because he crossed a red line.

123
00:12:26,260 --> 00:12:26,500
Edwin is being targeted
In his online videos

124
00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:28,740
In his online videos

125
00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:33,140
he has been deeply critical
of Chinese president, Xi Jinping,

126
00:12:33,140 --> 00:12:33,380
he has been deeply critical
and has ridiculed Xi's daughter.

127
00:12:33,380 --> 00:12:36,500
and has ridiculed Xi's daughter.

128
00:12:44,860 --> 00:12:46,140
<font color="#ffff00">(SPEAKS IN OWN LANGUAGE)</font>

129
00:12:46,140 --> 00:12:51,980
He fled China
and arrived in Australia in 2018.

130
00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:06,420
In 2021

131
00:13:06,420 --> 00:13:06,660
Edwin was targeted
In 2021

132
00:13:06,660 --> 00:13:10,100
Edwin was targeted
in a brutal physical attack.

133
00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:10,340
Edwin was targeted
He suspects they were Chinese agents.

134
00:13:10,340 --> 00:13:14,300
He suspects they were Chinese agents.

135
00:13:45,940 --> 00:13:49,580
Edwin reported the assault
to local police.

136
00:14:15,420 --> 00:14:17,620
Last year in Sydney

137
00:14:17,620 --> 00:14:22,460
the Australian Federal Police
executed a sensitive search warrant.

138
00:14:22,460 --> 00:14:22,700
the Australian Federal Police
The secret raid

139
00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:23,940
The secret raid

140
00:14:23,940 --> 00:14:24,180
was connected to a Chinese
The secret raid

141
00:14:24,180 --> 00:14:29,380
was connected to a Chinese
espionage operation in Australia.

142
00:14:29,380 --> 00:14:33,220
Edwin's name was among
the victims of the operation

143
00:14:33,220 --> 00:14:33,460
Edwin's name was among
listed on the search warrant.

144
00:14:33,460 --> 00:14:35,700
listed on the search warrant.

145
00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:40,900
Soon after, he was called in
for a meeting with the AFP.

146
00:15:06,900 --> 00:15:11,380
That espionage investigation
is ongoing.

147
00:15:11,380 --> 00:15:17,020
The AFP declined to comment
about Edwin Yin's case.

148
00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:24,860
China claims Edwin Yin is a criminal.

149
00:15:24,860 --> 00:15:28,460
And he IS a controversial character.

150
00:15:28,460 --> 00:15:32,980
In China
he has been charged with fraud.

151
00:15:32,980 --> 00:15:33,220
In China
And an Australian court ordered him

152
00:15:33,220 --> 00:15:36,420
And an Australian court ordered him

153
00:15:36,420 --> 00:15:42,980
to repay $700,000 over an alleged
foreign-exchange scam.

154
00:15:42,980 --> 00:15:45,220
Four Corners spoke to the victim,

155
00:15:45,220 --> 00:15:48,420
who says Edwin DID commit the crime

156
00:15:48,420 --> 00:15:51,540
and that he has scammed others.

157
00:15:51,540 --> 00:15:55,660
Edwin says he has been framed
by the Chinese government.

158
00:16:01,420 --> 00:16:04,060
Soon after he arrived in Australia,

159
00:16:04,060 --> 00:16:08,060
the attempts to repatriate him began.

160
00:16:08,060 --> 00:16:09,660
In this phone call,

161
00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:12,100
Edwin's then-girlfriend in China

162
00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:14,180
told him she was being pressured

163
00:16:14,180 --> 00:16:14,420
to assist the Chinese
told him she was being pressured

164
00:16:14,420 --> 00:16:18,020
to assist the Chinese
foreign intelligence service.

165
00:16:32,260 --> 00:16:36,500
The targeting of Edwin escalated.

166
00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:38,340
In March 2020

167
00:16:38,340 --> 00:16:38,580
his new partner, Michelle, received a
In March 2020

168
00:16:38,580 --> 00:16:44,700
his new partner, Michelle, received a
call from her parents back in China.

169
00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:44,940
his new partner, Michelle, received a
Michelle is an Australian citizen.

170
00:16:44,940 --> 00:16:47,740
Michelle is an Australian citizen.

171
00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:52,500
She was told
her father was gravely ill.

172
00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:07,260
<font color="#00ff00">(TRAFFIC BUZZES)</font>

173
00:17:33,980 --> 00:17:36,860
The day after she arrived
back in China,

174
00:17:36,860 --> 00:17:42,020
Michelle says she was forced
to meet with intelligence officers.

175
00:18:12,220 --> 00:18:16,540
At this time, Michelle was pregnant
with Edwin's child.

176
00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:21,100
She says the officers
and her terrified family

177
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:24,860
started pressuring her
to abort her baby.

178
00:18:35,620 --> 00:18:39,100
Michelle believes
the officers were worried

179
00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:44,460
a baby could give Edwin
a pathway to Australian citizenship.

180
00:19:07,660 --> 00:19:10,500
Michelle managed to return
to Australia,

181
00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:16,100
but even here the intelligence
officers continued to pressure her.

182
00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:20,100
Michelle emailed
the Department of Home Affairs

183
00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:23,820
detailing the harassment
and asking for protection.

184
00:19:23,820 --> 00:19:24,060
detailing the harassment
She received no response.

185
00:19:24,060 --> 00:19:27,180
She received no response.

186
00:19:28,660 --> 00:19:30,980
The Department of Home Affairs

187
00:19:30,980 --> 00:19:31,220
declined to answer
The Department of Home Affairs

188
00:19:31,220 --> 00:19:34,660
declined to answer
specific questions.

189
00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:41,860
Despite the pressure, Edwin Yin
continues his political activism.

190
00:20:17,140 --> 00:20:19,340
<font color="#ffff00">(EXHALES HEAVILY)</font>

191
00:20:23,580 --> 00:20:26,260
Eric and Edwin's story

192
00:20:26,260 --> 00:20:26,460
is part of something much bigger.
Eric and Edwin's story

193
00:20:26,460 --> 00:20:29,340
is part of something much bigger.

194
00:20:29,340 --> 00:20:35,500
China's vast spying apparatus
operates on a global scale.

195
00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:37,740
Civilian intelligence-gathering

196
00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:40,180
comes under two main bodies -

197
00:20:40,180 --> 00:20:40,420
comes under two main bodies -
the Ministry of Public Security
and the Ministry of State Security.

198
00:20:40,420 --> 00:20:45,980
the Ministry of Public Security
and the Ministry of State Security.

199
00:20:48,660 --> 00:20:50,300
<font color="#00ffff">The Ministry of Public Security,</font>

200
00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:51,780
<font color="#00ffff">which most people think about</font>

201
00:20:51,780 --> 00:20:54,620
<font color="#00ffff">as sort of the domestic</font>
<font color="#00ffff">security service,</font>

202
00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:54,860
<font color="#00ffff">as sort of the domestic</font>
<font color="#00ffff">and that's largely correct,</font>

203
00:20:54,860 --> 00:20:57,260
<font color="#00ffff">and that's largely correct,</font>

204
00:20:57,260 --> 00:20:57,500
<font color="#00ffff">and that's largely correct,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">but they have</font>
<font color="#00ffff">an intelligence mission as well.</font>

205
00:20:57,500 --> 00:21:00,460
<font color="#00ffff">but they have</font>
<font color="#00ffff">an intelligence mission as well.</font>

206
00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:01,940
<font color="#00ffff">Then we have</font>
<font color="#00ffff">the Ministry of State Security,</font>

207
00:21:01,940 --> 00:21:03,460
<font color="#00ffff">where I think</font>
<font color="#00ffff">most people think of that</font>

208
00:21:03,460 --> 00:21:06,140
<font color="#00ffff">as their civilian</font>
<font color="#00ffff">intelligence service.</font>

209
00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:13,060
Holden Triplett
led the FBI's office in Beijing.

210
00:21:13,060 --> 00:21:13,300
Holden Triplett
As part of that job,

211
00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:15,100
As part of that job,

212
00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:21,180
he regularly met with the Ministry
of Public Security, or MPS.

213
00:21:21,180 --> 00:21:21,420
he regularly met with the Ministry
<font color="#00ff00">(APPLAUSE)</font>

214
00:21:21,420 --> 00:21:24,220
<font color="#00ff00">(APPLAUSE)</font>

215
00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:26,620
Under Xi Jinping's rule,

216
00:21:26,620 --> 00:21:30,180
this control has become much tighter.

217
00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:33,980
Now almost no dissent is tolerated,

218
00:21:33,980 --> 00:21:38,940
and Xi has strengthened his grip
on the Chinese population overseas.

219
00:21:38,940 --> 00:21:39,180
and Xi has strengthened his grip
<font color="#00ff00">(APPLAUSE CONTINUES)</font>

220
00:21:39,180 --> 00:21:41,980
<font color="#00ff00">(APPLAUSE CONTINUES)</font>

221
00:21:41,980 --> 00:21:42,220
<font color="#00ffff">Now they're heavily engaged</font>
<font color="#00ff00">(APPLAUSE CONTINUES)</font>

222
00:21:42,220 --> 00:21:44,100
<font color="#00ffff">Now they're heavily engaged</font>
<font color="#00ffff">in the world, right?</font>

223
00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:46,620
<font color="#00ffff">They need resources</font>
<font color="#00ffff">from all sorts of places.</font>

224
00:21:46,620 --> 00:21:46,860
<font color="#00ffff">They need resources</font>
<font color="#00ffff">And, so, making sure</font>

225
00:21:46,860 --> 00:21:48,220
<font color="#00ffff">And, so, making sure</font>

226
00:21:48,220 --> 00:21:50,700
<font color="#00ffff">that they have control</font>
<font color="#00ffff">over these Chinese populations,</font>

227
00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:52,140
<font color="#00ffff">wherever they are in the world,</font>

228
00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:52,380
<font color="#00ffff">is essential for them</font>
<font color="#00ffff">wherever they are in the world,</font>

229
00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:55,020
<font color="#00ffff">is essential for them</font>
<font color="#00ffff">to continue to maintain power.</font>

230
00:21:55,020 --> 00:21:55,260
<font color="#00ffff">is essential for them</font>
<font color="#00ffff">So, anyone within Chinese population</font>

231
00:21:55,260 --> 00:21:58,180
<font color="#00ffff">So, anyone within Chinese population</font>

232
00:21:58,180 --> 00:22:02,700
<font color="#00ffff">internally or in the diaspora</font>
<font color="#00ffff">or perhaps even outside of it</font>

233
00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:04,980
<font color="#00ffff">that could threaten</font>
<font color="#00ffff">the party's control,</font>

234
00:22:04,980 --> 00:22:07,460
<font color="#00ffff">that's what they would</font>
<font color="#00ffff">be investigating, opposing</font>

235
00:22:07,460 --> 00:22:07,700
<font color="#00ffff">that's what they would</font>
<font color="#00ffff">and disrupting if necessary.</font>

236
00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:09,660
<font color="#00ffff">and disrupting if necessary.</font>

237
00:22:11,540 --> 00:22:14,460
That's why Eric was so useful.

238
00:22:15,420 --> 00:22:17,620
As a dissident himself,

239
00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:21,300
he could infiltrate
the broader pro-democracy movement.

240
00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:40,580
<font color="#00ff00">(INDISTINCT SINGING)</font>

241
00:22:40,580 --> 00:22:42,260
In 2016

242
00:22:42,260 --> 00:22:47,380
Eric was invited to a gathering
of activists in Dharamshala,

243
00:22:47,380 --> 00:22:50,500
home of the Tibetan government
in exile.

244
00:22:51,660 --> 00:22:55,500
There he met with the Dalai Lama.

245
00:22:57,540 --> 00:23:00,740
He filed a report
back to his police handler

246
00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:05,300
detailing the exiled government's
future China policy.

247
00:23:06,140 --> 00:23:08,020
It was well-received.

248
00:23:08,020 --> 00:23:12,740
He was rewarded
with a new mission to Cambodia.

249
00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:26,340
<font color="#ffff00">(TRAFFIC BUZZES)</font>

250
00:23:26,340 --> 00:23:28,060
<font color="#00ff00">(HORN BEEPS)</font>

251
00:23:31,940 --> 00:23:33,700
On October 12

252
00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:37,460
Eric flew from China to Phnom Penh.

253
00:23:38,420 --> 00:23:42,700
There he was provided
with an apartment and a cover story.

254
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:44,180
<font color="#ffff00">(HORNS BEEP)</font>

255
00:24:01,060 --> 00:24:04,100
He began working
at Prince Real Estate,

256
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:04,340
He began working
part of the Prince Holding Group,

257
00:24:04,340 --> 00:24:06,580
part of the Prince Holding Group,

258
00:24:06,580 --> 00:24:08,500
a multi-billion-dollar conglomerate

259
00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:12,100
with close ties
to the country's leadership.

260
00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:32,620
In Cambodia

261
00:24:32,620 --> 00:24:32,860
Eric's main target
In Cambodia

262
00:24:32,860 --> 00:24:35,940
Eric's main target
was a man called Wang Liming,

263
00:24:35,940 --> 00:24:36,180
Eric's main target
also known as Rebel Pepper.

264
00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:38,580
also known as Rebel Pepper.

265
00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:38,820
<font color="#00ff00">He was an everyday</font>
<font color="#00ff00">Chinese marketing guru</font>
also known as Rebel Pepper.

266
00:24:38,820 --> 00:24:40,260
<font color="#00ff00">He was an everyday</font>
<font color="#00ff00">Chinese marketing guru</font>

267
00:24:40,260 --> 00:24:42,340
<font color="#00ff00">until he became</font>
<font color="#00ff00">an enemy of the state</font>

268
00:24:42,340 --> 00:24:42,580
<font color="#00ff00">until he became</font>
<font color="#00ff00">by becoming a journalist</font>

269
00:24:42,580 --> 00:24:43,820
<font color="#00ff00">by becoming a journalist</font>

270
00:24:43,820 --> 00:24:44,020
<font color="#00ff00">by becoming a journalist</font>
<font color="#00ff00">and cartoonist.</font>

271
00:24:44,020 --> 00:24:45,860
<font color="#00ff00">and cartoonist.</font>

272
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:46,060
<font color="#00ff00">and cartoonist.</font>
Not just any cartoonist.

273
00:24:46,060 --> 00:24:47,780
Not just any cartoonist.

274
00:24:47,780 --> 00:24:52,020
Rebel Pepper's work
took aim at China's political elite,

275
00:24:52,020 --> 00:24:52,260
Rebel Pepper's work
including President Xi Jinping.

276
00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:55,780
including President Xi Jinping.

277
00:24:57,700 --> 00:24:59,980
From China's human-rights record

278
00:24:59,980 --> 00:25:02,900
to its domestic
and international affairs,

279
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:08,540
Rebel Pepper's images provide
a sharp critique of his homeland.

280
00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:09,780
<font color="#00ff00">His trenchant cartoons</font>

281
00:25:09,780 --> 00:25:11,820
<font color="#00ff00">drew the wrath</font>
<font color="#00ff00">of the Chinese Communist Party,</font>

282
00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:15,060
<font color="#00ff00">and in 2014</font>
<font color="#00ff00">he was forced to leave his home.</font>

283
00:25:17,780 --> 00:25:19,060
<font color="#ffff00">(INDISTINCT CHATTER)</font>

284
00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:22,660
Eric was tasked
with luring him to Cambodia

285
00:25:22,660 --> 00:25:22,900
from Japan, where he was living.
with luring him to Cambodia

286
00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:25,700
from Japan, where he was living.

287
00:25:35,420 --> 00:25:39,100
Under the guise
of a Prince Group employee,

288
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:42,500
Eric reached out to Rebel Pepper.

289
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:06,860
Every message Eric sent was first
approved by his police handler.

290
00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:16,220
In this voice message,

291
00:26:16,220 --> 00:26:21,220
Eric's handler tells him to exploit
Rebel Pepper's need for money.

292
00:27:10,860 --> 00:27:16,780
Rebel Pepper now lives
on the outskirts of Washington, DC.

293
00:27:27,860 --> 00:27:29,180
Oh.

294
00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:15,940
He doesn't know it,

295
00:28:15,940 --> 00:28:18,100
but the fan was Eric.

296
00:28:19,260 --> 00:28:26,060
Rebel Pepper's designs were shown
at events held by Prince Real Estate.

297
00:28:26,060 --> 00:28:26,300
Rebel Pepper's designs were shown
<font color="#00ff00">(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS)</font>

298
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:27,060
<font color="#00ff00">(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS)</font>

299
00:28:27,060 --> 00:28:28,860
The company's senior managers

300
00:28:28,860 --> 00:28:32,940
even posed for a picture
in front of one of them.

301
00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:33,700
<font color="#00ff00">(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS)</font>

302
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:35,780
The Prince Group told Four Corners

303
00:28:35,780 --> 00:28:40,060
they have no affiliations
with the Chinese government.

304
00:29:12,940 --> 00:29:15,940
Do you recognise these email exchange

305
00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:20,180
between you
and a person named Xiao Yang?

306
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:28,060
<font color="#ffff00">Eh?!</font>

307
00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:46,300
<font color="#ffff00">Wah!</font>

308
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:55,460
Do you feel scared?

309
00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:29,020
<font color="#00ff00">(HORN BEEPS)</font>

310
00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:32,420
<font color="#00ffff">(TRAFFIC DRONES)</font>

311
00:30:32,420 --> 00:30:35,660
Eric's secret-police work continued.

312
00:30:35,660 --> 00:30:38,060
In 2018

313
00:30:38,060 --> 00:30:41,620
Eric was sent
on another overseas mission,

314
00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:43,220
this time to Bangkok,

315
00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:45,380
where he was embedded
in a hotel group

316
00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:45,620
where he was embedded
as a business planning manager.

317
00:30:45,620 --> 00:30:48,540
as a business planning manager.

318
00:30:51,180 --> 00:30:54,500
One of his main targets
was this man -

319
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:58,540
a dissident and artist
called Hua Yong.

320
00:30:58,540 --> 00:31:04,140
Hua Yong had long been an outspoken
critic of the Communist Party.

321
00:31:04,140 --> 00:31:04,380
Hua Yong had long been an outspoken
In 2012

322
00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:05,660
In 2012

323
00:31:05,660 --> 00:31:11,140
he staged a protest commemorating
the Tiananmen Square massacre,

324
00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:14,100
punching himself in the face.

325
00:31:17,380 --> 00:31:21,180
In 2017
he made international headlines

326
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:25,980
by documenting Beijing's
mass evictions of migrant workers.

327
00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:31,940
After being repeatedly detained
and harassed by police,

328
00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:34,580
Hua fled China to Thailand.

329
00:31:34,580 --> 00:31:38,020
But even there he wasn't safe.

330
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:55,220
Eric was directed
to initiate contact with Hua Yong

331
00:31:55,220 --> 00:31:59,140
in a voice message
from his police handler.

332
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:22,380
They discussed tactics
to flush Hua out.

333
00:32:22,380 --> 00:32:27,980
Eric proposed creating
a fake anti-CCP online persona

334
00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:28,220
Eric proposed creating
to get close to him.

335
00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:30,540
to get close to him.

336
00:32:45,900 --> 00:32:49,220
His police handler
was willing to help.

337
00:32:51,460 --> 00:32:52,500
<font color="#00ff00">(GUNSHOT)</font>

338
00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:20,300
Eric recorded videos pretending to be
the leader of an anti-CCP militia.

339
00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:27,460
This is Eric in the Thai jungle
posing as their spokesperson.

340
00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:40,060
<font color="#00ffff">(TRADITIONAL MUSIC</font>
<font color="#00ffff">PLAYS IN BACKGROUND)</font>

341
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:40,300
<font color="#00ff00">(GUNSHOT)</font>
<font color="#00ffff">PLAYS IN BACKGROUND)</font>

342
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:42,220
<font color="#00ff00">(GUNSHOT)</font>

343
00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:44,340
<font color="#00ff00">(GUNSHOT)</font>

344
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:49,260
The plan worked.
Huan Yong was impressed.

345
00:33:56,740 --> 00:33:59,780
Increasingly afraid for his safety,

346
00:33:59,780 --> 00:34:02,940
in 2021 Hua fled again,

347
00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:07,620
this time to Canada
on a protection visa.

348
00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:07,860
this time to Canada
But Eric's pursuit didn't end.

349
00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:11,220
But Eric's pursuit didn't end.

350
00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:11,460
He maintained close contact
But Eric's pursuit didn't end.

351
00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:14,500
He maintained close contact
with Hua Yong,

352
00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:18,620
and was invited
to join his core group of activists.

353
00:34:18,620 --> 00:34:21,980
He sent detailed reports
of Hua's movements

354
00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:22,220
He sent detailed reports
back to his police handler.

355
00:34:22,220 --> 00:34:24,460
back to his police handler.

356
00:34:34,780 --> 00:34:36,700
<font color="#00ff00">Is that the residence</font>
<font color="#00ff00">of the dissident?</font>

357
00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:36,940
<font color="#00ff00">Is that the residence</font>
Yeah.

358
00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:38,100
Yeah.

359
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:41,100
I showed the report to Dan Stanton.

360
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,260
He was an intelligence officer

361
00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:43,500
with the Canadian Security and
He was an intelligence officer

362
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:48,820
with the Canadian Security and
Intelligence Service for 32 years.

363
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:52,540
He ran their China desk
for four years.

364
00:34:54,380 --> 00:34:56,980
<font color="#00ff00">The map is... What?</font>

365
00:34:56,980 --> 00:34:58,260
His daily activity.

366
00:34:58,260 --> 00:35:01,340
He walked from home
to a friend's home.

367
00:35:01,340 --> 00:35:03,100
<font color="#00ff00">Wow.</font>
The distance...

368
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:03,340
<font color="#00ff00">Wow.</font>
Um...

369
00:35:03,340 --> 00:35:04,540
Um...

370
00:35:04,540 --> 00:35:04,740
<font color="#00ff00">So, pattern of life -</font>
Um...

371
00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:06,540
<font color="#00ff00">So, pattern of life -</font>

372
00:35:06,540 --> 00:35:08,740
<font color="#00ff00">what his routines are,</font>

373
00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:10,620
<font color="#00ff00">what he likes to do.</font>

374
00:35:11,580 --> 00:35:13,220
<font color="#00ff00">This is impressive.</font>

375
00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:21,180
<font color="#00ff00">Someone in the group</font>
<font color="#00ff00">was befriending the dissident.</font>

376
00:35:21,180 --> 00:35:25,260
<font color="#00ff00">And then would be reporting back</font>
<font color="#00ff00">on his activities,</font>

377
00:35:25,260 --> 00:35:27,780
<font color="#00ff00">his personalities,</font>
<font color="#00ff00">who he has contacts with.</font>

378
00:35:27,780 --> 00:35:28,020
<font color="#00ff00">his personalities,</font>
<font color="#00ff00">So, from the Chinese perspective,</font>

379
00:35:28,020 --> 00:35:30,820
<font color="#00ff00">So, from the Chinese perspective,</font>

380
00:35:30,820 --> 00:35:31,060
<font color="#00ff00">they're identifying and neutralising</font>
<font color="#00ff00">So, from the Chinese perspective,</font>

381
00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:34,300
<font color="#00ff00">they're identifying and neutralising</font>
<font color="#00ff00">a threat to the state.</font>

382
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:37,340
<font color="#00ff00">For Canada,</font>
<font color="#00ff00">we've got a sovereignty issue here.</font>

383
00:35:48,020 --> 00:35:51,260
I'm on my way to the place
that Hua Yong called home

384
00:35:51,260 --> 00:35:53,500
after leaving Thailand...

385
00:35:56,220 --> 00:36:01,300
..to a small town called Gibsons
on the picturesque west coast.

386
00:36:04,940 --> 00:36:09,020
It's a ferry ride west from Vancouver

387
00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:12,020
and an ocean away from China.

388
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:19,580
<font color="#00ffff">(BIRD SQUAWKS)</font>

389
00:36:19,580 --> 00:36:25,100
I speak with people around town
who have met Hua Yong.

390
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:28,700
What do you remember about him?
You said he came to the store.

391
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:28,940
What do you remember about him?
What he said? What he asked for?

392
00:36:28,940 --> 00:36:30,780
What he said? What he asked for?

393
00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:32,220
<font color="#ffff00">(SPEAKS IN OWN LANGUAGE)</font>

394
00:36:32,220 --> 00:36:37,540
They tell me he spent his days
in Gibsons working on his art,

395
00:36:37,540 --> 00:36:37,780
They tell me he spent his days
kayaking, fishing and catching crabs.

396
00:36:37,780 --> 00:36:40,460
kayaking, fishing and catching crabs.

397
00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:05,820
<font color="#ffff00">(SPEAKS IN OWN LANGUAGE)</font>

398
00:37:05,820 --> 00:37:07,900
<font color="#ffff00">(LAUGHS)</font>

399
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:08,100
<font color="#ffff00">(LAUGHS)</font>
<font color="#00ff00">(WAVES LAP)</font>

400
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,980
<font color="#00ff00">(WAVES LAP)</font>

401
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:28,820
Four months
after he arrived in Gibsons

402
00:37:28,820 --> 00:37:29,060
Four months
Hua Yong died.

403
00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:30,460
Hua Yong died.

404
00:37:31,420 --> 00:37:36,140
He drowned in these waters
on a cold autumn night.

405
00:37:38,380 --> 00:37:41,540
He had gone out in his kayak.

406
00:37:41,540 --> 00:37:46,420
His body was found floating
in the water the next morning.

407
00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:50,940
<font color="#00ffff">(WAVES LAP, BIRDS SQUAWK)</font>

408
00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:02,460
This friend
doesn't want to be identified

409
00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:06,660
for fear of retribution
from the Chinese government.

410
00:38:24,220 --> 00:38:28,980
Canadian police say
Hua Yong's death was not suspicious.

411
00:38:28,980 --> 00:38:34,020
But, after years of tracking him,
Eric has his doubts.

412
00:39:01,980 --> 00:39:04,980
So, you were effectively
helping the secret police

413
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:08,140
track down people
who were innocent of any crimes.

414
00:39:08,140 --> 00:39:11,940
Do you feel any guilt
for your involvement?

415
00:39:22,540 --> 00:39:27,060
Knowing that Hua Yong was a target
for the Chinese secret police,

416
00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:30,500
do you think it warrant
further investigation into his death?

417
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:30,740
<font color="#00ff00">I think it clearly does because...</font>
do you think it warrant
further investigation into his death?

418
00:39:30,740 --> 00:39:33,020
<font color="#00ff00">I think it clearly does because...</font>

419
00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:36,820
<font color="#00ff00">Not to suggest</font>
<font color="#00ff00">that's exactly what happened.</font>

420
00:39:36,820 --> 00:39:37,060
<font color="#00ff00">Not to suggest</font>
<font color="#00ff00">Not to suggest that the state, uh...</font>

421
00:39:37,060 --> 00:39:38,660
<font color="#00ff00">Not to suggest that the state, uh...</font>

422
00:39:38,660 --> 00:39:38,860
<font color="#00ff00">Not to suggest that the state, uh...</font>
<font color="#00ff00">..may have had a hand in his death.</font>

423
00:39:38,860 --> 00:39:40,700
<font color="#00ff00">..may have had a hand in his death.</font>

424
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:43,700
<font color="#00ff00">But I just think</font>
<font color="#00ff00">this is very compelling</font>

425
00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:43,940
<font color="#00ff00">But I just think</font>
<font color="#00ff00">when you have a foreign state</font>

426
00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:45,540
<font color="#00ff00">when you have a foreign state</font>

427
00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:48,780
<font color="#00ff00">obviously</font>
<font color="#00ff00">following this young fellow</font>

428
00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:49,020
<font color="#00ff00">obviously</font>
<font color="#00ff00">and reporting on him,</font>

429
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:52,260
<font color="#00ff00">and reporting on him,</font>

430
00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:53,980
<font color="#00ff00">and then he dies.</font>

431
00:39:53,980 --> 00:39:57,060
<font color="#00ff00">This is very concerning,</font>
<font color="#00ff00">in my opinion.</font>

432
00:40:01,860 --> 00:40:04,260
China's intelligence networks

433
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:04,500
have been more active in Australia
China's intelligence networks

434
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:09,620
have been more active in Australia
than previously thought.

435
00:40:09,620 --> 00:40:09,860
<font color="#00ff00">(VOICEOVER SPEAKS IN OWN LANGUAGE)</font>
have been more active in Australia
than previously thought.

436
00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:13,300
<font color="#00ff00">(VOICEOVER SPEAKS IN OWN LANGUAGE)</font>

437
00:40:15,860 --> 00:40:20,540
President Xi Jinping has used
his anti-corruption campaigns,

438
00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:20,780
Fox Hunt and Sky Net,
his anti-corruption campaigns,

439
00:40:20,780 --> 00:40:22,540
Fox Hunt and Sky Net,

440
00:40:22,540 --> 00:40:22,780
Fox Hunt and Sky Net,
so-called fugitives to China

441
00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:27,700
to return more than 12,000
so-called fugitives to China

442
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:27,940
since 2014.
so-called fugitives to China

443
00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:29,660
since 2014.

444
00:40:32,780 --> 00:40:35,700
They have also
been used as cover

445
00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,380
to silence
and kidnap dissidents.

446
00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:38,660
to silence
and kidnap dissidents.
Many were forced to return
in covert operations

447
00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:43,020
Many were forced to return
in covert operations

448
00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:47,780
without the knowledge or permission
of local authorities.

449
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:55,900
Laura Harth has investigated
the Australian cases.

450
00:40:56,980 --> 00:40:59,620
<font color="#ffff00">LAURA HARTH:</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Australia is one of those countries</font>

451
00:40:59,620 --> 00:40:59,860
<font color="#ffff00">LAURA HARTH:</font>
<font color="#ffff00">where, between 2014 and 2023,</font>

452
00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:02,820
<font color="#ffff00">where, between 2014 and 2023,</font>

453
00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:03,020
<font color="#ffff00">Chinese sources state</font>
<font color="#ffff00">where, between 2014 and 2023,</font>

454
00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:04,500
<font color="#ffff00">Chinese sources state</font>

455
00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:07,260
<font color="#ffff00">that there were at least 16</font>

456
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:12,260
<font color="#ffff00">successful</font>
<font color="#ffff00">individual extrajudicial returns.</font>

457
00:41:12,260 --> 00:41:12,500
<font color="#ffff00">successful</font>
<font color="#ffff00">individual extrajudicial returns.</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Four of those were in 2023.</font>

458
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,140
<font color="#ffff00">Four of those were in 2023.</font>

459
00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:21,900
Those 16 people were accused
of committing economic crimes.

460
00:41:23,380 --> 00:41:24,860
<font color="#ffff00">We don't want to imply, you know,</font>

461
00:41:24,860 --> 00:41:26,660
<font color="#ffff00">that all these people are innocent</font>

462
00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:29,620
<font color="#ffff00">of the crimes</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that have been alleged.</font>

463
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:32,460
<font color="#ffff00">But we do see instances that,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">you know, clearly point to the fact</font>

464
00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:32,700
<font color="#ffff00">But we do see instances that,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">that people were sought</font>

465
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:34,060
<font color="#ffff00">that people were sought</font>

466
00:41:34,060 --> 00:41:37,340
<font color="#ffff00">because they might be critical</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of the current leadership.</font>

467
00:41:38,540 --> 00:41:41,340
These operations have included

468
00:41:41,340 --> 00:41:41,580
Chinese police secretly coming
These operations have included

469
00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:46,580
Chinese police secretly coming
to Australia to extract people.

470
00:41:46,580 --> 00:41:46,820
Chinese police secretly coming
In 2014, when this was made public,

471
00:41:46,820 --> 00:41:50,860
In 2014, when this was made public,

472
00:41:50,860 --> 00:41:54,420
it caused
a major diplomatic incident.

473
00:41:56,860 --> 00:41:58,460
In 2019

474
00:41:58,460 --> 00:42:00,620
Chinese officers came again,

475
00:42:00,620 --> 00:42:04,700
this time with permission
from Australian authorities.

476
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:04,940
this time with permission
But we can reveal

477
00:42:04,940 --> 00:42:06,980
But we can reveal

478
00:42:06,980 --> 00:42:10,060
they didn't follow
the agreed protocol

479
00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:13,300
and took their target back to China.

480
00:42:14,860 --> 00:42:18,620
<font color="#ffff00">They used the local Chinese</font>
<font color="#ffff00">Consulate-General and Embassy</font>

481
00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:18,860
<font color="#ffff00">They used the local Chinese</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to help them.</font>

482
00:42:18,860 --> 00:42:20,100
<font color="#ffff00">to help them.</font>

483
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:21,780
<font color="#ffff00">We believe this was an operation</font>

484
00:42:21,780 --> 00:42:26,300
<font color="#ffff00">that was not declared</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to the Australian authorities.</font>

485
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:30,700
<font color="#ffff00">So, for the PRC to launch</font>
<font color="#ffff00">these illegal operations</font>

486
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:33,420
<font color="#ffff00">undeclared</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to the Australian government,</font>

487
00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:33,660
<font color="#ffff00">undeclared</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to the Australian authorities,</font>

488
00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:35,100
<font color="#ffff00">to the Australian authorities,</font>

489
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:35,340
<font color="#ffff00">going on people...after people</font>
<font color="#ffff00">to the Australian authorities,</font>

490
00:42:35,340 --> 00:42:39,340
<font color="#ffff00">going on people...after people</font>
<font color="#ffff00">on Australian soil</font>

491
00:42:39,340 --> 00:42:42,340
<font color="#ffff00">is clearly in violation,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">in brazen violation,</font>

492
00:42:42,340 --> 00:42:42,580
<font color="#ffff00">is clearly in violation,</font>
<font color="#ffff00">of the sovereignty of Australia.</font>

493
00:42:42,580 --> 00:42:45,740
<font color="#ffff00">of the sovereignty of Australia.</font>

494
00:42:45,740 --> 00:42:47,780
<font color="#00ff00">(SIREN WAILS)</font>

495
00:42:47,780 --> 00:42:48,020
The Australian Federal Police
<font color="#00ff00">(SIREN WAILS)</font>

496
00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:51,940
The Australian Federal Police
declined to comment.

497
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:57,740
These repatriations

498
00:42:57,740 --> 00:43:03,140
are part of a broader strategy
to build networks overseas.

499
00:43:05,540 --> 00:43:08,180
<font color="#00ffff">MPS comes, says "We're police,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">we're doing anti-corruption,</font>

500
00:43:08,180 --> 00:43:09,700
<font color="#00ffff">"a bunch of criminals</font>
<font color="#00ffff">in your country,</font>

501
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:11,420
<font color="#00ffff">"let us clean them up,</font>
<font color="#00ffff">let us take them" -</font>

502
00:43:11,420 --> 00:43:13,340
<font color="#00ffff">that sounds</font>
<font color="#00ffff">like a really great idea.</font>

503
00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:13,580
<font color="#00ffff">that sounds</font>
<font color="#00ffff">like a really great idea.</font>
<font color="#00ffff">And, by allowing that to happen,</font>

504
00:43:13,580 --> 00:43:15,580
<font color="#00ffff">And, by allowing that to happen,</font>

505
00:43:15,580 --> 00:43:17,260
<font color="#00ffff">we allow them to get a foothold</font>

506
00:43:17,260 --> 00:43:19,740
<font color="#00ffff">in the United States, Australia</font>
<font color="#00ffff">and other places.</font>

507
00:43:19,740 --> 00:43:21,540
<font color="#00ffff">And they've built</font>
<font color="#00ffff">from that foothold,</font>

508
00:43:21,540 --> 00:43:24,860
<font color="#00ffff">and now they have</font>
<font color="#00ffff">a much stronger apparatus</font>

509
00:43:24,860 --> 00:43:26,860
<font color="#00ffff">that can reach out and touch</font>
<font color="#00ffff">more and more people.</font>

510
00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:33,020
Former spy Eric
says Australia isn't prepared.

511
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:54,740
Has Western governments
dropped the ball on this?

512
00:43:54,740 --> 00:43:55,020
<font color="#00ff00">I'd say Western governments</font>
<font color="#00ff00">have dropped the ball on MPS</font>
Has Western governments
dropped the ball on this?

513
00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:59,380
<font color="#00ff00">I'd say Western governments</font>
<font color="#00ff00">have dropped the ball on MPS</font>

514
00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:02,500
<font color="#00ff00">and on the bigger picture</font>
<font color="#00ff00">of transnational repression.</font>

515
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:02,780
<font color="#00ff00">and on the bigger picture</font>
<font color="#00ff00">of transnational repression.</font>
<font color="#00ff00">We haven't listened</font>
<font color="#00ff00">to our diaspora community.</font>

516
00:44:02,780 --> 00:44:05,140
<font color="#00ff00">We haven't listened</font>
<font color="#00ff00">to our diaspora community.</font>

517
00:44:05,140 --> 00:44:05,380
<font color="#00ff00">We haven't listened</font>
<font color="#00ff00">So, it's easy to see</font>

518
00:44:05,380 --> 00:44:06,940
<font color="#00ff00">So, it's easy to see</font>

519
00:44:06,940 --> 00:44:07,180
<font color="#00ff00">how a foreign state's intelligence</font>
<font color="#00ff00">So, it's easy to see</font>

520
00:44:07,180 --> 00:44:12,140
<font color="#00ff00">how a foreign state's intelligence</font>
<font color="#00ff00">apparatus could exploit that.</font>

521
00:44:12,140 --> 00:44:14,660
<font color="#00ff00">A little bit of indifference</font>
<font color="#00ff00">on the government side,</font>

522
00:44:14,660 --> 00:44:17,940
<font color="#00ff00">and fear from the community side</font>
<font color="#00ff00">in speaking out.</font>

523
00:44:17,940 --> 00:44:18,180
<font color="#00ff00">and fear from the community side</font>
<font color="#00ff00">Completely dropped the ball.</font>

524
00:44:18,180 --> 00:44:20,420
<font color="#00ff00">Completely dropped the ball.</font>

525
00:44:21,540 --> 00:44:24,580
<font color="#ffff00">(BIRD TWITTERS)</font>

526
00:44:28,820 --> 00:44:33,140
This is a meeting
that's been months in the making.

527
00:44:33,140 --> 00:44:33,380
This is a meeting
Eric, the former undercover agent,

528
00:44:33,380 --> 00:44:36,420
Eric, the former undercover agent,

529
00:44:36,420 --> 00:44:37,940
is now face to face

530
00:44:37,940 --> 00:44:41,980
with one of the men
he was tasked with hunting down.

531
00:45:03,260 --> 00:45:05,020
<font color="#00ffff">(CHUCKLES) OK.</font>

532
00:45:19,220 --> 00:45:23,020
Eric and one of his other
former targets, Edwin,

533
00:45:23,020 --> 00:45:27,060
now live in the same city,
breathe the same air

534
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:27,300
now live in the same city,
and share the same fears.

535
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:30,460
and share the same fears.

536
00:45:49,540 --> 00:45:55,900
Eric, no longer a spy, is now also
a target of his former masters.

537
00:46:27,180 --> 00:46:31,460
Do you believe you can have
a safe life here in Australia?

538
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:02,060
<font color="#ffff00">(THEME MUSIC PLAYS)</font>

539
00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:18,780
Captions by Red Bee Media

540
00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:19,020
Copyright
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Captions by Red Bee Media

541
00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:20,980
Copyright
Australian Broadcasting Corporation