1 00:00:07,307 --> 00:00:09,187 Narrator: In this episode of "American Greed"... 2 00:00:09,909 --> 00:00:14,014 the queen of commercial real estate poses in the spotlight, 3 00:00:14,047 --> 00:00:16,750 but operates in the shadows. 4 00:00:16,783 --> 00:00:18,752 When you come to my home to eat, 5 00:00:18,785 --> 00:00:21,421 this is the atmosphere you would experience. 6 00:00:21,454 --> 00:00:24,791 Champion-Cain admitted in court 7 00:00:24,824 --> 00:00:28,128 that she was the mastermind of a massive, 8 00:00:28,161 --> 00:00:30,897 $400 million Ponzi scheme. 9 00:00:30,930 --> 00:00:35,035 Narrator: Gina Champion-Cain is on the cover of magazines. 10 00:00:35,068 --> 00:00:38,438 She sits on influential boards and wins awards. 11 00:00:38,471 --> 00:00:40,907 In San Diego, she's kind of a big deal. 12 00:00:40,940 --> 00:00:44,778 You know, as a real-estate developer and business owner, 13 00:00:44,811 --> 00:00:46,780 I also own 10 restaurants. 14 00:00:46,813 --> 00:00:48,481 I know, I'm crazy. 15 00:00:48,515 --> 00:00:50,617 Gina wanted to build an empire. 16 00:00:50,650 --> 00:00:54,120 Narrator: The mayor even names June 28, 2006, 17 00:00:54,154 --> 00:00:56,656 Gina Champion-Cain Day. 18 00:00:56,690 --> 00:01:01,227 Corey: She's this powerful woman entrepreneur in San Diego. 19 00:01:01,261 --> 00:01:03,763 It's like, "Wow, how do I become that someday?" 20 00:01:03,797 --> 00:01:05,365 Narrator: But Champion-Cain 21 00:01:05,398 --> 00:01:07,867 isn't the role model she seems to be. 22 00:01:07,901 --> 00:01:11,237 When she gets involved in the liquor-licensing business, 23 00:01:11,271 --> 00:01:14,140 she becomes drunk with power and masterminds 24 00:01:14,174 --> 00:01:17,410 one of the largest frauds in San Diego history. 25 00:01:17,444 --> 00:01:19,346 Weisberg: I mean, you could argue 26 00:01:19,379 --> 00:01:21,948 this was a $400 million business enterprise, 27 00:01:21,981 --> 00:01:25,452 and here this woman pulled it off. 28 00:01:25,485 --> 00:01:27,554 Narrator: But the enterprising entrepreneur 29 00:01:27,587 --> 00:01:29,956 isn't the successful businesswoman 30 00:01:29,989 --> 00:01:31,524 she pretends to be. 31 00:01:31,558 --> 00:01:33,569 Galvin: In fact, over the seven years of her scheme, 32 00:01:33,593 --> 00:01:36,296 she used about $60 million of investor funds 33 00:01:36,329 --> 00:01:39,366 to prop up her failing businesses. 34 00:01:39,399 --> 00:01:40,800 Narrator: Because the architect 35 00:01:40,834 --> 00:01:43,603 of the largest woman-run Ponzi scheme in U.S. history 36 00:01:43,636 --> 00:01:46,506 has a dark origin story. 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,118 And the ironic thing is I was actually 38 00:01:49,142 --> 00:01:50,677 a victim of a Ponzi scheme. 39 00:01:54,581 --> 00:02:02,581 ♪♪ 40 00:02:09,062 --> 00:02:11,731 Narrator: In January 2022, 41 00:02:11,765 --> 00:02:14,668 a massive equity fund claims they have been swindled 42 00:02:14,701 --> 00:02:17,337 out of $75 million. 43 00:02:17,370 --> 00:02:19,839 And they want their money back. 44 00:02:19,873 --> 00:02:24,344 Their lawyers believe one person in particular has the answers... 45 00:02:24,377 --> 00:02:26,346 Gina Champion-Cain. 46 00:02:34,087 --> 00:02:35,455 I do. 47 00:02:35,488 --> 00:02:37,524 Narrator: Though Champion-Cain is not the focus 48 00:02:37,557 --> 00:02:42,071 of this particular lawsuit, she does have a lot to explain. 49 00:02:42,095 --> 00:02:43,630 Man: Am I correct that... 50 00:02:47,534 --> 00:02:48,835 Yes. 51 00:02:48,868 --> 00:02:52,005 Narrator: Over the next five and a half hours, 52 00:02:52,105 --> 00:02:56,085 Champion-Cain will describe eight years of her life, 53 00:02:56,109 --> 00:02:59,279 during which she not only duped this fund 54 00:02:59,312 --> 00:03:04,417 but also contrived to steal more than $350 million 55 00:03:04,451 --> 00:03:07,821 from almost 500 investors. 56 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:11,524 And the conversation won't always be easy. 57 00:03:11,558 --> 00:03:13,960 I'm being honest. I have nothing to lie for. 58 00:03:14,060 --> 00:03:16,296 I'm already incarcerated. 59 00:03:16,329 --> 00:03:18,465 You can continue to skewer me all you want. 60 00:03:18,498 --> 00:03:21,434 It's not gonna affect me either way. 61 00:03:21,468 --> 00:03:23,570 I'm already in prison, I'm already being punished, 62 00:03:23,603 --> 00:03:25,905 I'm already remorseful. I'm already... 63 00:03:25,939 --> 00:03:27,774 Narrator: This isn't what she has in mind 64 00:03:27,807 --> 00:03:32,545 when she comes to San Diego from Michigan in the late '80s 65 00:03:32,579 --> 00:03:34,280 to make a name for herself. 66 00:03:34,314 --> 00:03:35,749 Galvin: She came out. 67 00:03:35,782 --> 00:03:37,951 She graduated from the University of Michigan, 68 00:03:37,984 --> 00:03:39,619 moved out to San Diego, 69 00:03:39,652 --> 00:03:42,956 and ended up getting her MBA at the University of San Diego. 70 00:03:42,989 --> 00:03:44,424 After getting her MBA, 71 00:03:44,457 --> 00:03:47,093 she ended up deciding to form her own company 72 00:03:47,127 --> 00:03:51,097 and that was American National Investments or ANI. 73 00:03:51,131 --> 00:03:53,566 Narrator: Even the name is ambitious. 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,935 Champion-Cain doesn't just want to conquer real estate 75 00:03:55,969 --> 00:03:59,572 in the Gaslamp District in downtown San Diego. 76 00:03:59,606 --> 00:04:01,541 She wants to conquer commercial real estate 77 00:04:01,574 --> 00:04:03,643 across the entire country. 78 00:04:03,677 --> 00:04:05,021 Woman: It's so great to meet you. 79 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:06,613 Congratulations on the second location. 80 00:04:06,646 --> 00:04:09,482 Thank you so much. I'm very excited, very excited. 81 00:04:09,516 --> 00:04:13,453 Neil Senturia spends nearly 50 hours 82 00:04:13,486 --> 00:04:16,823 interviewing Champion-Cain for his book, "I Did It: 83 00:04:16,856 --> 00:04:20,360 The Largest Woman-Run Ponzi Scheme in American History," 84 00:04:20,393 --> 00:04:24,130 as told to Neil Senturia and Barbara Bry. 85 00:04:24,164 --> 00:04:28,668 And according to him, her ambition isn't for money, 86 00:04:28,702 --> 00:04:30,503 but for glory. 87 00:04:30,537 --> 00:04:33,406 Senturia: I think her ambition was to be famous. 88 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,842 I think that you have to understand 89 00:04:35,875 --> 00:04:39,546 that if you pick real-estate development, 90 00:04:39,579 --> 00:04:41,715 it's pretty high profile, 91 00:04:41,748 --> 00:04:43,350 and they write articles about you. 92 00:04:43,383 --> 00:04:46,219 And if you're right, you make a lot of money. 93 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:49,656 Weisberg: She really was a compelling figure, 94 00:04:49,689 --> 00:04:51,725 and not just because she was a woman entrepreneur, 95 00:04:51,758 --> 00:04:54,561 but, um, she had a certain charisma. 96 00:04:54,594 --> 00:04:57,397 My presentation is not as deep as everybody else's on this. 97 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:59,165 You know, I'm just the real-estate girl. 98 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:00,900 "What innovative real estate can we do?" 99 00:05:00,934 --> 00:05:03,103 Weisberg: She's a very compelling personality 100 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:04,838 and seemed very bright 101 00:05:04,871 --> 00:05:08,017 and seemed to have a lot of business acumen. 102 00:05:08,041 --> 00:05:10,510 Narrator: Howard Greenberg is intricately involved 103 00:05:10,543 --> 00:05:13,022 in real-estate development in San Diego, 104 00:05:13,046 --> 00:05:17,517 and he's quite aware of Champion-Cain's rising star. 105 00:05:17,550 --> 00:05:19,028 Greenberg: She quickly became the chairman 106 00:05:19,052 --> 00:05:20,887 of the Downtown San Diego Partnership. 107 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,590 She got involved with the Centre City Development Corporation. 108 00:05:23,623 --> 00:05:28,128 And she was very adept at interweaving herself 109 00:05:28,161 --> 00:05:30,764 into the fabric of the downtown. 110 00:05:30,797 --> 00:05:32,198 Champion-Cain: Good morning. 111 00:05:32,232 --> 00:05:35,669 A lot of smart people in this room. 112 00:05:35,702 --> 00:05:41,341 I'm just proud to be part of their environment 113 00:05:41,374 --> 00:05:43,543 [chuckles] this morning, so thank you. 114 00:05:43,576 --> 00:05:45,779 Narrator: But according to many involved, 115 00:05:45,812 --> 00:05:48,581 the credit isn't entirely deserved. 116 00:05:48,615 --> 00:05:50,750 She was very good at interweaving herself 117 00:05:50,784 --> 00:05:52,919 in the political and business community, 118 00:05:52,952 --> 00:05:56,723 and for that, was rewarded, I'd say, 119 00:05:56,756 --> 00:06:01,695 and did a lot of self-promotion without a lot of backup. 120 00:06:01,728 --> 00:06:03,830 Weisberg: I learned, little by little, 121 00:06:03,863 --> 00:06:05,832 that many of the kinds of projects 122 00:06:05,865 --> 00:06:10,603 she claimed to have been the developer of, she was not. 123 00:06:10,637 --> 00:06:12,605 High-rise luxury condominiums 124 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:15,608 that she claimed to have been an equity partner in, 125 00:06:15,642 --> 00:06:18,712 a developer in, she was not. 126 00:06:18,745 --> 00:06:22,382 In many ways, she conned people into believing 127 00:06:22,415 --> 00:06:24,117 that she had done much more than she had. 128 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:26,586 And she was masterful at promoting herself. 129 00:06:26,619 --> 00:06:28,621 Narrator: Whether legitimate or not, 130 00:06:28,655 --> 00:06:30,957 the media is ready to be her champion. 131 00:06:31,057 --> 00:06:32,668 If you haven't checked out The Front Porch, 132 00:06:32,692 --> 00:06:34,270 you have to check it out. Thank you so much, Gina! 133 00:06:34,294 --> 00:06:35,895 Thank you! 134 00:06:35,929 --> 00:06:38,164 Senturia: She was really famous in this town. 135 00:06:38,198 --> 00:06:44,270 But it's a man's game and it's, um, sharp elbows and big money 136 00:06:44,304 --> 00:06:45,872 and she was really good, 137 00:06:45,905 --> 00:06:49,609 but she was fighting the famous glass ceiling. 138 00:06:49,642 --> 00:06:52,278 Narrator: But Champion-Cain wants the world to know 139 00:06:52,312 --> 00:06:54,514 that she's ready for the fight. 140 00:06:54,547 --> 00:06:57,517 She is featured on magazine covers, in profiles, 141 00:06:57,550 --> 00:07:00,854 and podcasts as a woman to be reckoned with 142 00:07:00,887 --> 00:07:03,556 in the San Diego development scene. 143 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:05,592 Kaye: She's what I like to call a Hot Witch. 144 00:07:05,625 --> 00:07:07,527 You know what I mean, she... 145 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,297 You know, she's fabulous and gorgeous and super successful, 146 00:07:11,331 --> 00:07:15,011 and so I'm super excited to hear what she's got on her plate. 147 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:17,937 Champion-Cain: I love being a developer, I love real estate, 148 00:07:18,038 --> 00:07:21,574 and I love seeing transformation in communities. 149 00:07:21,608 --> 00:07:26,046 Narrator: She climbs so high in public estimation that in 2006, 150 00:07:26,079 --> 00:07:29,315 the San Diego mayor declares June 28th 151 00:07:29,349 --> 00:07:32,028 Gina Champion-Cain Day. 152 00:07:32,052 --> 00:07:33,887 But things are about to get shaky 153 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,489 in Southern California real estate. 154 00:07:36,523 --> 00:07:39,359 It was perhaps the worst financial collapse 155 00:07:39,392 --> 00:07:41,327 since the Great Depression. 156 00:07:41,361 --> 00:07:43,630 Narrator: With the economic crash in 2008, 157 00:07:43,663 --> 00:07:46,666 commercial development screeches to a halt. 158 00:07:46,700 --> 00:07:48,335 Reporter: Housing prices plummeted 159 00:07:48,368 --> 00:07:50,804 and mortgage investments went sour. 160 00:07:50,837 --> 00:07:52,605 Narrator: And like most everyone else, 161 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:56,276 Champion-Cain can't avoid the fallout. 162 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:59,512 Galvin: Coming out of the downturn in the late 2000s, 163 00:07:59,546 --> 00:08:00,990 she felt desperation. 164 00:08:01,014 --> 00:08:03,583 She felt desperation to make money for herself, 165 00:08:03,616 --> 00:08:05,919 for her family, and for friends. 166 00:08:06,019 --> 00:08:08,588 Narrator: She decides it may be a good time to pivot 167 00:08:08,621 --> 00:08:10,724 into a different industry, 168 00:08:10,757 --> 00:08:13,827 but she gets there almost by accident. 169 00:08:13,860 --> 00:08:17,197 Senturia: She sees a piece of land in Pacific Beach 170 00:08:17,230 --> 00:08:19,165 and it's perfect for apartments. 171 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:20,800 It's an old restaurant. 172 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:24,037 It's kind of favored by the community and she ties it up. 173 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:26,373 She's gonna tear the restaurant down 174 00:08:26,406 --> 00:08:28,074 and she's gonna build apartments. 175 00:08:28,108 --> 00:08:30,744 The community has an uprising and said, 176 00:08:30,777 --> 00:08:32,946 "No, no, we don't want to lose the restaurant." 177 00:08:33,046 --> 00:08:37,917 So she goes home to her husband and she says, 178 00:08:37,951 --> 00:08:41,821 "Steve, we're gonna be in the restaurant business." 179 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:47,403 And it's there, of course, where she learns 180 00:08:47,427 --> 00:08:49,729 that you have to get a liquor license. 181 00:08:49,763 --> 00:08:52,232 Narrator: The restaurant is called 182 00:08:52,265 --> 00:08:53,833 The patio on Lamont Street, 183 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:55,769 and it will soon become the epicenter 184 00:08:55,802 --> 00:08:59,739 of the biggest Ponzi scheme in San Diego history. 185 00:09:00,907 --> 00:09:04,411 When "American Greed" returns... Gina Champion-Cain 186 00:09:04,444 --> 00:09:08,114 launches a $350 million fraud. 187 00:09:08,148 --> 00:09:11,317 I came up with the idea that a lending business 188 00:09:11,351 --> 00:09:12,852 would be a good idea. 189 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:15,998 Narrator: But it may be more than she bargained for. 190 00:09:16,022 --> 00:09:20,860 ♪♪ 191 00:09:24,926 --> 00:09:31,008 ♪♪ 192 00:09:31,032 --> 00:09:32,600 Narrator: By all appearances, 193 00:09:32,634 --> 00:09:35,503 Gina Champion-Cain is living her best life. 194 00:09:35,537 --> 00:09:37,806 Her reputation in Southern California real estate 195 00:09:37,839 --> 00:09:41,910 is growing as she sits on multiple influential boards 196 00:09:41,943 --> 00:09:43,244 in Southern California 197 00:09:43,278 --> 00:09:45,347 and is featured in magazines, 198 00:09:45,380 --> 00:09:49,250 social media, and TV programs like "California Life"... 199 00:09:49,284 --> 00:09:51,252 Champion-Cain: When you come to my home to eat, 200 00:09:51,286 --> 00:09:53,688 this is the atmosphere you would experience. 201 00:09:53,722 --> 00:09:57,492 Narrator: But for her, it's never enough. 202 00:09:57,525 --> 00:10:00,929 Galvin: After she opened up that first Patio restaurant in 2011, 203 00:10:00,962 --> 00:10:03,365 she starts to realize that there's this process 204 00:10:03,398 --> 00:10:04,632 that you need to go through 205 00:10:04,666 --> 00:10:07,869 in order to purchase a liquor license. 206 00:10:07,902 --> 00:10:10,038 Brewer: Just like when you transfer title of your car 207 00:10:10,071 --> 00:10:12,040 and you have to file it with the DMV, 208 00:10:12,073 --> 00:10:14,609 in order to transfer title of an alcoholic beverage license, 209 00:10:14,642 --> 00:10:17,846 you have to file an application with the ABC. 210 00:10:17,879 --> 00:10:21,883 Narrator: ABC is the Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control, 211 00:10:21,916 --> 00:10:25,053 and their regulations state that within 30 days, 212 00:10:25,086 --> 00:10:28,990 all applicants buying a liquor license from a previous owner 213 00:10:29,024 --> 00:10:33,061 must put the full cost of the license in an escrow account. 214 00:10:33,094 --> 00:10:35,497 By law, the money is locked away 215 00:10:35,530 --> 00:10:39,267 until the transaction is either approved or abandoned, 216 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:42,003 which can take months or even years. 217 00:10:42,037 --> 00:10:45,373 And having your cold hard cash locked away in a virtual safe 218 00:10:45,407 --> 00:10:47,876 can be quite problematic. 219 00:10:47,909 --> 00:10:50,078 They can be very expensive. It depends on the area. 220 00:10:50,111 --> 00:10:51,813 Depends on the type of license, 221 00:10:51,846 --> 00:10:53,591 but they can be anywhere from tens of thousands of dollars 222 00:10:53,615 --> 00:10:55,617 to hundreds of thousands of dollars. 223 00:10:55,650 --> 00:10:59,821 And it just sits there until the ABC approves or rejects 224 00:10:59,854 --> 00:11:03,224 your application for the transfer of the liquor license. 225 00:11:04,726 --> 00:11:06,561 Narrator: But Champion-Cain says 226 00:11:06,594 --> 00:11:09,097 this hardship for entrepreneurs 227 00:11:09,130 --> 00:11:13,601 could actually turn into a benefit for everyone. 228 00:11:13,635 --> 00:11:15,870 She thinks she can help the little guy 229 00:11:15,904 --> 00:11:19,841 starting a bar or restaurant, while at the same time 230 00:11:19,874 --> 00:11:23,712 turning a tidy profit for herself and investors. 231 00:11:25,313 --> 00:11:28,350 Cramer: So Gina Champion-Cain recognized an opportunity. 232 00:11:28,383 --> 00:11:29,851 She began pitching investors 233 00:11:29,884 --> 00:11:32,063 that she would lend these restaurants 234 00:11:32,087 --> 00:11:34,723 who were trying to purchase liquor licenses 235 00:11:34,756 --> 00:11:36,734 the money that they needed to put into an escrow account 236 00:11:36,758 --> 00:11:38,460 for as long as they needed it. 237 00:11:38,493 --> 00:11:42,263 Narrator: In theory, it's a bridge loan... the funding 238 00:11:42,297 --> 00:11:44,899 from deep-pocketed investors means the hopeful bar owner 239 00:11:44,933 --> 00:11:48,136 doesn't need to front any money at all. 240 00:11:48,169 --> 00:11:52,140 In exchange, when the license is approved and transferred, 241 00:11:52,173 --> 00:11:55,877 the applicant pays the seller full price for the license, 242 00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:59,090 as well as between 15% and 25% interest 243 00:11:59,114 --> 00:12:01,883 to the investor for fronting the money, 244 00:12:01,916 --> 00:12:06,488 at which point the investor gets their loan back from escrow. 245 00:12:06,521 --> 00:12:09,924 For investors, it seems like a no-lose situation, 246 00:12:09,958 --> 00:12:11,926 because the money is held in escrow 247 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,964 at one of the largest insurance companies in the world... 248 00:12:16,064 --> 00:12:18,600 Chicago Title. 249 00:12:18,633 --> 00:12:22,370 The worst that can happen, or so Champion-Cain says, 250 00:12:22,404 --> 00:12:24,439 is that investors get their money back 251 00:12:24,472 --> 00:12:26,808 if the applicant doesn't pay. 252 00:12:26,841 --> 00:12:30,178 The problem is, the loan isn't necessary. 253 00:12:30,211 --> 00:12:33,148 She's fabricated the entire scheme. 254 00:12:33,181 --> 00:12:36,351 According to Michael Brewer, despite state regulations, 255 00:12:36,384 --> 00:12:41,189 liquor-license applicants can defer funding the escrow account 256 00:12:41,222 --> 00:12:43,124 for as long as they want. 257 00:12:43,158 --> 00:12:44,759 They can just send an e-mail 258 00:12:44,793 --> 00:12:47,862 asking for the funding date to be extended, 259 00:12:47,896 --> 00:12:51,399 and they've never refused it in my experience. 260 00:12:51,433 --> 00:12:55,170 Narrator: Therefore, applicants have no real need for a loan, 261 00:12:55,203 --> 00:12:59,607 and Champion-Cain's lending platform has no real market. 262 00:12:59,641 --> 00:13:01,609 Unless she makes one up. 263 00:13:03,745 --> 00:13:07,215 She provides a list of supposed liquor-license applicants 264 00:13:07,248 --> 00:13:11,953 to investors and tells them to pull from the top shelf. 265 00:13:12,053 --> 00:13:14,923 Mark Cramer, who later files a civil lawsuit 266 00:13:14,956 --> 00:13:17,625 against Champion-Cain and other entities, 267 00:13:17,659 --> 00:13:22,039 believes these lists are totally bogus. 268 00:13:22,063 --> 00:13:23,665 Cramer: People could look at these lists 269 00:13:23,698 --> 00:13:26,568 and choose which ones they wanted to invest in. 270 00:13:26,601 --> 00:13:28,870 Oftentimes what Gina would do, 271 00:13:28,903 --> 00:13:32,741 particularly for a first-time investor, is say, 272 00:13:32,774 --> 00:13:34,609 "I'll go in on this first one with you. 273 00:13:34,642 --> 00:13:36,778 We'll be co-investors together." 274 00:13:36,811 --> 00:13:39,647 And that added even more credibility 275 00:13:39,681 --> 00:13:42,083 that if Gina's putting her own money at risk for this, 276 00:13:42,117 --> 00:13:43,818 then this is truly a no-brainer. 277 00:13:43,852 --> 00:13:46,821 "I can't lose. I can only win." 278 00:13:46,855 --> 00:13:50,392 Narrator: Maybe, if it were true. 279 00:13:50,425 --> 00:13:51,926 Unfortunately, none of these 280 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,663 supposed liquor-license applicants on her lists 281 00:13:54,696 --> 00:13:56,698 actually want to borrow any money. 282 00:13:56,731 --> 00:14:00,101 Champion-Cain just pretends they do. 283 00:14:00,135 --> 00:14:02,203 Cramer: The whole thing is a fantasy. 284 00:14:02,237 --> 00:14:07,842 It seems from day one, this was hatched as a fraudulent scheme. 285 00:14:07,876 --> 00:14:11,112 Narrator: But her contacts in the business world 286 00:14:11,146 --> 00:14:12,580 don't know that. 287 00:14:12,614 --> 00:14:15,950 They believe Champion-Cain is pitching a sure thing. 288 00:14:16,051 --> 00:14:17,852 Galvin: So the beginning of her scheme, 289 00:14:17,886 --> 00:14:19,454 Champion-Cain relied on individuals 290 00:14:19,487 --> 00:14:21,032 that she knew from the business community 291 00:14:21,056 --> 00:14:23,725 who began investing and over time, 292 00:14:23,758 --> 00:14:27,195 you had others who became aggregators. 293 00:14:27,228 --> 00:14:31,132 In effect, they would go out and find their own investors. 294 00:14:31,166 --> 00:14:32,743 Narrator: The aggregators then pool the money 295 00:14:32,767 --> 00:14:34,235 from other investors 296 00:14:34,269 --> 00:14:37,439 and put that money into the investment program. 297 00:14:40,342 --> 00:14:44,055 Mr. Peters... Kim Peterson, 298 00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:48,583 is or was one of the main investors, 299 00:14:48,616 --> 00:14:53,521 lenders, into the liquor-license program. 300 00:14:53,555 --> 00:14:55,557 Narrator: Kim Peterson is also 301 00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:57,792 a real-estate developer in San Diego, 302 00:14:57,826 --> 00:15:01,830 but his initial relationship with Champion-Cain is social. 303 00:15:01,863 --> 00:15:03,765 Peterson: She and her husband were a member 304 00:15:03,798 --> 00:15:05,934 of the same golf club that I belong to in San Diego. 305 00:15:06,034 --> 00:15:08,603 So I started to see her then. 306 00:15:08,636 --> 00:15:11,673 Starting about, oh, maybe 2010. 307 00:15:11,706 --> 00:15:14,075 And then one morning, we had coffee together 308 00:15:14,109 --> 00:15:16,678 just to talk about business development 309 00:15:16,711 --> 00:15:18,313 and real-estate development, 310 00:15:18,346 --> 00:15:22,183 and that kind of morphed into, you know, the relationship. 311 00:15:22,217 --> 00:15:25,920 Narrator: One day in 2013, Champion-Cain lures Peterson 312 00:15:25,954 --> 00:15:29,958 into her lending scheme, and Peterson takes the bait. 313 00:15:30,058 --> 00:15:33,261 He makes a $200,000 investment. 314 00:15:33,294 --> 00:15:36,297 Peterson: My view of it at the time was that, I liked Gina. 315 00:15:36,331 --> 00:15:37,699 I trusted Gina. 316 00:15:37,732 --> 00:15:40,502 I understand the logic of the platform. 317 00:15:40,535 --> 00:15:42,637 It made sense to me, and so I thought, 318 00:15:42,671 --> 00:15:45,206 "Well, I'll try, I'll do one of these or two of these 319 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,375 and see how, you know, it plays out." 320 00:15:47,409 --> 00:15:50,078 So that's how it kind of started and then it just kind of started 321 00:15:50,111 --> 00:15:54,549 to get a little bit bigger and a little bit bigger. 322 00:15:54,582 --> 00:15:55,917 Narrator: It keeps getting bigger 323 00:15:55,950 --> 00:15:58,953 because Peterson keeps seeing positive returns. 324 00:15:58,987 --> 00:16:02,824 Soon, Peterson begins to recruit more investors into the program, 325 00:16:02,857 --> 00:16:05,293 and his involvement builds so large 326 00:16:05,326 --> 00:16:09,297 that he starts his own company, Kim Funding, LLC, 327 00:16:09,331 --> 00:16:13,168 exclusively to raise money for the program. 328 00:16:13,201 --> 00:16:15,403 Peterson: I knew a fair amount of people in San Diego, 329 00:16:15,437 --> 00:16:19,016 and I had, you know, lending relationships with banks 330 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,809 through my real-estate development business. 331 00:16:20,842 --> 00:16:22,744 So I started talking to banks. 332 00:16:22,777 --> 00:16:25,747 I started talking to high-net-worth individuals. 333 00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:28,316 Narrator: What Peterson's investors don't have 334 00:16:28,350 --> 00:16:31,252 is a deep knowledge of liquor-license transfers. 335 00:16:31,286 --> 00:16:34,522 And that's exactly how Champion-Cain likes it. 336 00:16:34,556 --> 00:16:36,434 Greenberg: I don't think that any of the people she approached 337 00:16:36,458 --> 00:16:40,037 had a big knowledge or were intricately involved 338 00:16:40,061 --> 00:16:43,365 in any of the process of achieving a liquor license, 339 00:16:43,398 --> 00:16:46,201 and I think that was purposeful. 340 00:16:46,234 --> 00:16:49,971 Narrator: And that includes nearly 500 investors. 341 00:16:50,071 --> 00:16:54,409 For Champion-Cain, her investors' ignorance is bliss. 342 00:16:54,442 --> 00:16:59,447 Eventually, Peterson's company alone ushers $140 million 343 00:16:59,481 --> 00:17:01,783 into Champion-Cain's program. 344 00:17:01,816 --> 00:17:03,852 And not a single dollar of it goes toward 345 00:17:03,885 --> 00:17:05,787 a liquor-license loan. 346 00:17:05,820 --> 00:17:09,891 But all Peterson knows is that he's making money. 347 00:17:09,924 --> 00:17:11,736 Peterson: In hindsight, I look at that and go like, 348 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,728 "Well, should I have spent more time 349 00:17:13,762 --> 00:17:15,063 being concerned about that?" 350 00:17:15,096 --> 00:17:17,632 And, you know, I just wasn't at the time 351 00:17:17,666 --> 00:17:19,934 because they're wiring me all this money. 352 00:17:20,035 --> 00:17:22,070 I mean, hundreds of millions of dollars, 353 00:17:22,103 --> 00:17:24,105 you know, in and out all the time. 354 00:17:24,139 --> 00:17:28,443 And so the idea that... that there's something wrong here 355 00:17:28,476 --> 00:17:30,879 just didn't register. 356 00:17:37,218 --> 00:17:38,286 Yes. 357 00:17:43,058 --> 00:17:44,492 Yes. 358 00:17:44,526 --> 00:17:47,329 Cramer: First and foremost, like in any fraudulent scheme 359 00:17:47,362 --> 00:17:50,865 or Ponzi scheme like this, Gina had to use proceeds 360 00:17:50,899 --> 00:17:53,935 from new investors to pay old investors. 361 00:17:53,968 --> 00:17:55,313 Galvin: Over the life of the scheme, 362 00:17:55,337 --> 00:17:58,373 which was approximately 2012 to 2019, 363 00:17:58,406 --> 00:18:01,710 Champion-Cain paid out several hundred million dollars 364 00:18:01,743 --> 00:18:03,078 back to investors. 365 00:18:03,111 --> 00:18:06,081 And ultimately investors lost over $180 million, 366 00:18:06,114 --> 00:18:07,882 but she still paid out a lot of money 367 00:18:07,916 --> 00:18:10,518 to investors to generate this interest in the program 368 00:18:10,552 --> 00:18:12,187 and to keep it going. 369 00:18:12,220 --> 00:18:15,623 Narrator: In fact, not only are there no real loans, 370 00:18:15,657 --> 00:18:18,002 there are no real escrow accounts. 371 00:18:18,026 --> 00:18:21,796 All money that investors expect is going into escrow 372 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:24,099 is actually going into an account entirely 373 00:18:24,132 --> 00:18:26,801 under Champion-Cain's control. 374 00:18:26,835 --> 00:18:28,670 Cramer: Gina got her hands on the money 375 00:18:28,703 --> 00:18:30,014 that was sent to Chicago Title 376 00:18:30,038 --> 00:18:33,541 because Gina is the only person entity 377 00:18:33,575 --> 00:18:38,546 who had an agreement with Chicago Title that was real. 378 00:18:38,580 --> 00:18:41,025 And that agreement didn't provide 379 00:18:41,049 --> 00:18:42,817 for an actual escrow at all. 380 00:18:42,851 --> 00:18:45,420 It was called a holding funds escrow, 381 00:18:45,453 --> 00:18:48,490 but it was effectively a slush fund for Gina 382 00:18:48,523 --> 00:18:51,493 to use as she saw fit. 383 00:18:51,526 --> 00:18:55,730 And it's the opposite of what escrow is all about. 384 00:18:55,764 --> 00:18:59,768 Narrator: But it's exactly what Champion-Cain is all about... 385 00:18:59,801 --> 00:19:03,405 Lying her way to fame and fortune. 386 00:19:03,438 --> 00:19:05,073 When "American Greed" returns... 387 00:19:05,106 --> 00:19:08,276 don't get too friendly with Gina Champion-Cain. 388 00:19:08,309 --> 00:19:11,989 Even those closest to her aren't safe from her scheme. 389 00:19:12,013 --> 00:19:14,992 So it was exciting to have money to use, 390 00:19:15,016 --> 00:19:18,153 but, yeah, lost that. 391 00:19:18,186 --> 00:19:23,725 ♪♪ 392 00:19:28,062 --> 00:19:35,402 ♪♪ 393 00:19:35,436 --> 00:19:38,238 Narrator: Gina Champion-Cain has decided to branch out 394 00:19:38,272 --> 00:19:42,543 from real-estate development and expand into other industries. 395 00:19:42,576 --> 00:19:44,778 In the beginning, it's restaurants. 396 00:19:44,812 --> 00:19:47,214 But she doesn't stop there. 397 00:19:47,247 --> 00:19:49,383 Her fame is only growing. 398 00:19:49,416 --> 00:19:50,851 Over the next several years, 399 00:19:50,884 --> 00:19:52,853 she continues to appear in the media 400 00:19:52,886 --> 00:19:55,189 and speak at local business conferences. 401 00:19:55,222 --> 00:19:58,034 As a real-estate developer and business owner, 402 00:19:58,058 --> 00:20:01,729 I also own 10 restaurants. I know, I'm crazy. 403 00:20:01,762 --> 00:20:03,731 Narrator: And she has no intention 404 00:20:03,764 --> 00:20:05,065 of leaving the spotlight. 405 00:20:05,099 --> 00:20:07,234 Galvin: In the late 2000s, around 2008, 406 00:20:07,267 --> 00:20:09,136 you have this large economic downturn, 407 00:20:09,169 --> 00:20:12,272 and at that point, she decides to reinvent herself. 408 00:20:12,306 --> 00:20:15,776 And what she decides to do is go into more of the hospitality 409 00:20:15,809 --> 00:20:17,578 and the retail industry. 410 00:20:17,611 --> 00:20:19,913 She purchases some homes in Mission Beach 411 00:20:19,947 --> 00:20:23,617 and turns them into hotels under the Luv Surf brand. 412 00:20:23,650 --> 00:20:27,221 She starts selling accessories at a store called Luv Surf, 413 00:20:27,254 --> 00:20:30,290 you know, women's beach fashion, towels, things like that. 414 00:20:30,324 --> 00:20:32,693 And from there, really increases her investment 415 00:20:32,726 --> 00:20:35,262 in the retail side of her businesses. 416 00:20:35,295 --> 00:20:38,465 Luv Surf... It was pretty much a brand. 417 00:20:38,499 --> 00:20:42,302 Narrator: Pamela Corey is living in Massachusetts in 2013 418 00:20:42,336 --> 00:20:47,274 when a simple vacation to San Diego changes her life. 419 00:20:47,307 --> 00:20:49,376 Corey: I had fell in love with the area, 420 00:20:49,410 --> 00:20:51,979 and I knew this was the place I want to be. 421 00:20:52,012 --> 00:20:55,115 I just went online and kind of Googled things in the area 422 00:20:55,149 --> 00:20:56,850 that seemed of interest to me 423 00:20:56,884 --> 00:21:00,254 and sent my résumé to anybody who would look at it. 424 00:21:00,287 --> 00:21:04,058 So, yeah, I guess it tickled their fancy. 425 00:21:04,692 --> 00:21:06,427 Narrator: Luv surf hires her, 426 00:21:06,460 --> 00:21:10,264 and Corey thinks she's made the best decision of her life. 427 00:21:10,297 --> 00:21:14,201 She and her new boss, Gina Champion-Cain, hit it off. 428 00:21:14,234 --> 00:21:18,439 Corey: She was intimidating in a good way to me, I guess. 429 00:21:18,472 --> 00:21:21,108 You know, it's like I looked up to her. 430 00:21:21,141 --> 00:21:24,645 Um, because I'm like, "Wow, she's this powerful woman 431 00:21:24,678 --> 00:21:26,880 entrepreneur in San Diego." 432 00:21:26,914 --> 00:21:29,516 It's like, "Wow, how do I become that someday?" 433 00:21:29,550 --> 00:21:32,186 But she was also very kind to me. 434 00:21:32,219 --> 00:21:34,621 I would go to her home for Thanksgiving, 435 00:21:34,655 --> 00:21:37,725 for just to stop by and have wine. 436 00:21:37,758 --> 00:21:40,094 And I saw her almost every day, you know, 437 00:21:40,127 --> 00:21:42,129 'cause she was always in the shop. 438 00:21:42,162 --> 00:21:45,165 Narrator: And the shop is thriving, so Champion-Cain 439 00:21:45,199 --> 00:21:49,737 does what she always does... Goes bigger. 440 00:21:49,770 --> 00:21:51,081 Corey: Well, the boutique was doing great, 441 00:21:51,105 --> 00:21:54,775 so that's why we decided to open more stores. 442 00:21:54,808 --> 00:21:56,944 And then, as time went on, we kind of noticed 443 00:21:56,977 --> 00:21:59,880 that the numbers weren't really doing as well 444 00:21:59,913 --> 00:22:02,049 as they had initially been doing, 445 00:22:02,082 --> 00:22:03,317 and it was kind of confusing 446 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:05,152 as to why we were opening more stores 447 00:22:05,185 --> 00:22:08,455 when our numbers weren't matching the growth. 448 00:22:08,489 --> 00:22:12,035 Narrator: Champion-Cain doesn't seem too concerned 449 00:22:12,059 --> 00:22:13,827 with numbers not matching up, 450 00:22:13,861 --> 00:22:16,563 especially when it's not her money. 451 00:22:16,597 --> 00:22:19,533 Cramer: Over the life of the scheme, Champion-Cain's business grew. 452 00:22:19,566 --> 00:22:21,568 She continued to hire more and more employees, 453 00:22:21,602 --> 00:22:25,205 family members, friends, friends of family members. 454 00:22:25,239 --> 00:22:27,875 Weisberg: At one point, she talked about 700 employees. 455 00:22:27,908 --> 00:22:29,209 I mean, that's huge. 456 00:22:29,243 --> 00:22:30,720 Obviously they weren't all in her office. 457 00:22:30,744 --> 00:22:32,055 They were employed in all these 458 00:22:32,079 --> 00:22:33,881 different businesses and restaurants. 459 00:22:33,914 --> 00:22:36,684 But that's a huge enterprise. 460 00:22:36,717 --> 00:22:39,753 Corey: They were constantly bringing on tons of team members 461 00:22:39,787 --> 00:22:41,455 and paying big salaries. 462 00:22:41,488 --> 00:22:45,559 And so I was like, "Huh, how is she doing all of this 463 00:22:45,592 --> 00:22:48,996 when, you know, all of these other businesses 464 00:22:49,096 --> 00:22:50,731 aren't doing that well?" 465 00:22:50,764 --> 00:22:53,734 So, but I just thought she, you know, 466 00:22:53,767 --> 00:22:56,804 just had a lot of money. 467 00:22:56,837 --> 00:22:58,906 Narrator: In a way, she does. 468 00:22:58,939 --> 00:23:01,017 It's just not hers. 469 00:23:01,041 --> 00:23:03,344 To the outside world, a lot of these businesses 470 00:23:03,377 --> 00:23:04,812 and restaurants appeared successful, 471 00:23:04,845 --> 00:23:07,514 but really they were losing money 472 00:23:07,548 --> 00:23:10,117 and Champion-Cain was using money from investors 473 00:23:10,150 --> 00:23:12,553 to prop up these failing business. 474 00:23:12,586 --> 00:23:14,555 In fact, over the seven years of her scheme, 475 00:23:14,588 --> 00:23:17,791 she used about $60 million of investor funds 476 00:23:17,825 --> 00:23:20,427 to prop up her failing businesses. 477 00:23:20,461 --> 00:23:23,263 Narrator: But the socialite is not all business. 478 00:23:23,297 --> 00:23:25,265 While she uses much of the stolen money 479 00:23:25,299 --> 00:23:28,435 to amplify her appearance of professional success, 480 00:23:28,469 --> 00:23:33,049 she also takes a little something for herself. 481 00:23:33,073 --> 00:23:35,109 She also used millions of dollars to pay 482 00:23:35,142 --> 00:23:36,810 for personal expenses. 483 00:23:36,844 --> 00:23:38,212 She used millions of dollars to pay 484 00:23:38,245 --> 00:23:40,347 for her own salary each year. 485 00:23:40,381 --> 00:23:42,783 She purchased a home in Rancho Mirage, California. 486 00:23:42,816 --> 00:23:46,062 She purchased another home in Mission Beach, California. 487 00:23:46,086 --> 00:23:49,189 She spent hundreds of thousands on jewelry 488 00:23:49,223 --> 00:23:51,592 from expensive stores like Tiffany. 489 00:23:51,625 --> 00:23:52,960 Narrator: But if Champion-Cain 490 00:23:52,993 --> 00:23:54,795 is going to keep up this lifestyle, 491 00:23:54,828 --> 00:23:56,230 she's going to need help. 492 00:23:56,263 --> 00:23:58,666 And she's brazen enough to try to enlist one 493 00:23:58,699 --> 00:24:03,637 of the biggest companies in the world to provide it. 494 00:24:03,671 --> 00:24:05,606 Up next on "American Greed"... 495 00:24:05,639 --> 00:24:09,243 Champion-Cain is trading on the name of a banking king, 496 00:24:09,276 --> 00:24:13,681 but it's actually the pawns that help her orchestrate her gambit. 497 00:24:13,714 --> 00:24:16,784 Cramer: She needs them not to blow the whistle on her 498 00:24:16,817 --> 00:24:18,619 or become uncooperative. 499 00:24:18,652 --> 00:24:21,355 She needs to keep them doing what they're doing. 500 00:24:21,388 --> 00:24:29,063 ♪♪ 501 00:24:32,801 --> 00:24:38,973 ♪♪ 502 00:24:39,074 --> 00:24:40,408 Narrator: In San Diego, 503 00:24:40,442 --> 00:24:43,745 Gina Champion-Cain's fraud continues to grow, 504 00:24:43,778 --> 00:24:46,314 but as it grows, so does her dependence on her 505 00:24:46,348 --> 00:24:49,451 escrow provider, Chicago Title. 506 00:24:49,484 --> 00:24:51,453 She's had a legitimate relationship 507 00:24:51,486 --> 00:24:53,388 with the insurance giant for years 508 00:24:53,421 --> 00:24:55,824 while developing commercial real estate, 509 00:24:55,857 --> 00:24:58,827 and now she wants to exploit that relationship 510 00:24:58,860 --> 00:25:02,697 through her liquor-license lending scheme. 511 00:25:02,731 --> 00:25:04,432 Cramer: I've probably talked with close 512 00:25:04,466 --> 00:25:06,801 to 100 of the victims of the scheme, 513 00:25:06,835 --> 00:25:10,805 and every single one of them told me some variation of, 514 00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:13,608 "I would never have given this kind of money to Gina. 515 00:25:13,641 --> 00:25:16,144 I wouldn't even give this kind of money 516 00:25:16,177 --> 00:25:18,446 to my family members or friends. 517 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,949 I gave that money because I knew it was gonna be 518 00:25:21,049 --> 00:25:24,152 in an escrow account held by Chicago Title." 519 00:25:24,185 --> 00:25:26,554 Narrator: Chicago Title may seem invulnerable 520 00:25:26,588 --> 00:25:28,156 to the outside world, 521 00:25:28,189 --> 00:25:30,859 but according to several lawsuits filed against them, 522 00:25:30,892 --> 00:25:35,130 there may be a disease incubating within. 523 00:25:35,163 --> 00:25:38,667 Cramer: Time will tell exactly to what extent 524 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,403 who knew what when at Chicago Title, 525 00:25:41,436 --> 00:25:45,674 but there is evidence that a number of the escrow officers 526 00:25:45,707 --> 00:25:47,842 and others within the organization 527 00:25:47,876 --> 00:25:51,513 were aware of what Gina was doing. 528 00:25:51,546 --> 00:25:54,058 Narrator: But if they are aware, Champion-Cain 529 00:25:54,082 --> 00:25:57,719 wants to make sure they're insulated from her fraud. 530 00:25:57,752 --> 00:25:59,354 Galvin: She created this buffer 531 00:25:59,387 --> 00:26:01,022 between investors and Chicago Title. 532 00:26:01,056 --> 00:26:02,557 So Champion-Cain would tell investors, 533 00:26:02,590 --> 00:26:05,026 "You can't talk to the people at Chicago Title 534 00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:06,461 who run this program. 535 00:26:06,494 --> 00:26:08,430 They're too busy. They have too much going on. 536 00:26:08,463 --> 00:26:09,831 If you start to talk to them, 537 00:26:09,864 --> 00:26:12,009 you can't invest in the program anymore." 538 00:26:12,033 --> 00:26:14,011 On the flip side, she would tell the individuals 539 00:26:14,035 --> 00:26:16,338 working at Chicago Title, "Don't worry. 540 00:26:16,371 --> 00:26:17,815 You don't need to talk to my investors. 541 00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:19,741 If they reach out to you, you can ignore them. 542 00:26:19,774 --> 00:26:21,376 I'll tell them that you're too busy." 543 00:26:21,409 --> 00:26:24,212 So by doing that she created this separation, this buffer 544 00:26:24,245 --> 00:26:27,215 so that the investors weren't talking to Chicago Title, 545 00:26:27,248 --> 00:26:30,185 and Chicago Title wasn't talking to the investors. 546 00:26:30,218 --> 00:26:31,720 Narrator: There may be a buffer 547 00:26:31,753 --> 00:26:33,888 between investors and Chicago Title, 548 00:26:33,922 --> 00:26:36,057 but Champion-Cain communicates often 549 00:26:36,091 --> 00:26:40,695 with two Chicago Title employees in particular. 550 00:26:40,729 --> 00:26:42,564 The e-mails going back and forth 551 00:26:42,597 --> 00:26:45,042 between them are very familiar, very casual. 552 00:26:45,066 --> 00:26:48,236 And they're funny and entertaining in some ways. 553 00:26:48,269 --> 00:26:51,439 The e-mails were very, like, almost like a girlfriend 554 00:26:51,473 --> 00:26:54,075 talking to another girlfriend. 555 00:26:54,109 --> 00:26:55,920 "I have always promised you I would shelter you 556 00:26:55,944 --> 00:26:59,214 from my crazy investors, and I will continue to do so. 557 00:26:59,247 --> 00:27:02,117 If any one of them bug you as they are too stupid 558 00:27:02,150 --> 00:27:03,651 to understand the program, 559 00:27:03,685 --> 00:27:05,820 then they are fired as an investor. 560 00:27:05,854 --> 00:27:09,157 I have plenty of dudes dying to give me money, honey. 561 00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:11,092 Ha, ha, ha, ha. 562 00:27:11,126 --> 00:27:13,862 Love you ladies." 563 00:27:13,895 --> 00:27:15,764 She didn't want anybody saying anything 564 00:27:15,797 --> 00:27:17,065 that could hurt the scheme, 565 00:27:17,098 --> 00:27:18,867 so she wanted to control the narrative. 566 00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:21,436 And so she would say that in a friendly manner 567 00:27:21,469 --> 00:27:22,637 in these e-mails. 568 00:27:22,671 --> 00:27:24,239 But the bottom line was, it was like, 569 00:27:24,272 --> 00:27:26,841 "Keep your mouths shut. I'll take care of everything." 570 00:27:28,043 --> 00:27:29,644 Narrator: Even if the loan officers 571 00:27:29,678 --> 00:27:32,647 aren't acutely aware of Champion-Cain's scheme, 572 00:27:32,681 --> 00:27:36,584 they certainly take advantage of the perks she offers. 573 00:27:36,618 --> 00:27:39,821 Champion-Cain: I gave jewelry, champagne, 574 00:27:39,854 --> 00:27:43,725 baseball tickets, Charger suite tickets. 575 00:27:43,758 --> 00:27:46,461 We had corporate suites there. 576 00:27:46,494 --> 00:27:48,963 Narrator: And it isn't always just perks. 577 00:27:49,064 --> 00:27:51,199 As Champion-Cain testifies later, 578 00:27:51,232 --> 00:27:53,268 she sometimes straight-up bolsters 579 00:27:53,301 --> 00:27:55,970 these Chicago Title employees' bank accounts 580 00:27:56,071 --> 00:27:58,673 to try to keep them in her favor. 581 00:28:05,347 --> 00:28:06,581 Yes. 582 00:28:11,353 --> 00:28:12,687 Yes. 583 00:28:16,257 --> 00:28:18,026 Well, she was very thankful. 584 00:28:20,328 --> 00:28:23,598 Betty was very thankful. 585 00:28:23,631 --> 00:28:25,900 Senturia: So, people got perks. 586 00:28:25,934 --> 00:28:27,335 And at the grand scheme of things, 587 00:28:27,369 --> 00:28:30,014 you're talking about $400 million and the perks were, 588 00:28:30,038 --> 00:28:34,342 I don't know, 20 grand, 30 grand, nothing. 589 00:28:34,376 --> 00:28:37,312 But you belonged. 590 00:28:37,345 --> 00:28:40,081 It's a little bit like when you go to the nightclub 591 00:28:40,115 --> 00:28:41,759 and the guy waves you in and everybody else 592 00:28:41,783 --> 00:28:44,652 is standing behind the rope. 593 00:28:44,686 --> 00:28:46,354 You feel special. 594 00:28:46,388 --> 00:28:49,033 And I think in the case of these two women, 595 00:28:49,057 --> 00:28:51,860 I think that was important that they got to feel 596 00:28:51,893 --> 00:28:54,129 they were part of an inside group. 597 00:28:54,162 --> 00:28:57,699 Narrator: If feeling special does encourage the loan officers 598 00:28:57,732 --> 00:29:00,335 to be willfully ignorant, Champion-Cain 599 00:29:00,368 --> 00:29:03,905 certainly gives them plenty of reasons to turn a blind eye. 600 00:29:04,005 --> 00:29:06,541 For example, the escrow agreements 601 00:29:06,574 --> 00:29:09,377 that are the root of the entire fraud. 602 00:29:09,411 --> 00:29:12,380 Galvin: When an investor would put in money at Chicago Title, 603 00:29:12,414 --> 00:29:15,250 Champion-Cain would provide them with an escrow agreement. 604 00:29:15,283 --> 00:29:16,618 And this escrow agreement 605 00:29:16,651 --> 00:29:19,054 would say that Chicago Title held the money 606 00:29:19,087 --> 00:29:20,731 and that they couldn't do anything with the money 607 00:29:20,755 --> 00:29:22,891 except for send it back to the investor 608 00:29:22,924 --> 00:29:25,560 at the end of the application process. 609 00:29:25,593 --> 00:29:27,495 Those escrow agreements were fake. 610 00:29:27,529 --> 00:29:30,031 Gina Champion-Cain created them. 611 00:29:30,065 --> 00:29:35,403 She forged signatures on them and she gave them to investors. 612 00:29:35,437 --> 00:29:39,774 Narrator: It's a lot of work to steal that much money. 613 00:29:39,808 --> 00:29:41,209 Weisberg: I mean, you could argue 614 00:29:41,242 --> 00:29:43,912 this was a $400 million business enterprise. 615 00:29:43,945 --> 00:29:48,817 I mean, it was like operating a really complex business 616 00:29:48,850 --> 00:29:51,386 and here this woman pulled it off. 617 00:29:51,419 --> 00:29:55,523 Narrator: Where did Champion-Cain learn such dazzling skills? 618 00:29:55,557 --> 00:29:58,760 Maybe she'd had a taste before. 619 00:29:58,793 --> 00:30:00,895 When "American Greed" returns... 620 00:30:00,929 --> 00:30:03,231 the biggest fraudster in San Diego history 621 00:30:03,264 --> 00:30:06,267 started out on the other end of a scam. 622 00:30:06,301 --> 00:30:08,269 The ironic thing is I was actually a victim 623 00:30:08,303 --> 00:30:09,804 of a Ponzi scheme. 624 00:30:14,342 --> 00:30:15,777 Narrator: Want more "Greed"? 625 00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:18,780 Follow us on Instagram, connect on Facebook, 626 00:30:18,813 --> 00:30:21,082 and listen to the "American Greed" podcast 627 00:30:21,116 --> 00:30:23,618 wherever you get your podcasts. 628 00:30:23,651 --> 00:30:25,186 We'll be right back. 629 00:30:28,512 --> 00:30:32,783 ♪♪ 630 00:30:32,816 --> 00:30:34,318 Narrator: By the end of her fraud, 631 00:30:34,351 --> 00:30:36,487 Gina Champion-Cain has orchestrated 632 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,057 the largest Ponzi scheme in San Diego history. 633 00:30:40,090 --> 00:30:44,328 Ironically, it echoes a fraud she and a group of partners 634 00:30:44,361 --> 00:30:47,531 were victims of just 10 years earlier. 635 00:30:48,165 --> 00:30:51,168 Weisberg: So, Gina... She wanted to do 636 00:30:51,201 --> 00:30:53,037 this huge downtown development project. 637 00:30:53,070 --> 00:30:57,641 It was a $300 million project, so obviously you need financing. 638 00:30:57,675 --> 00:31:00,377 Cramer: And they found a private-equity fund 639 00:31:00,411 --> 00:31:04,815 which claimed to be backed by a lot of European, 640 00:31:04,848 --> 00:31:06,717 high-net-worth individuals 641 00:31:06,750 --> 00:31:10,954 who were looking to invest in real-estate development 642 00:31:11,055 --> 00:31:12,389 in the United States. 643 00:31:12,423 --> 00:31:16,060 And so, in order to make a loan application, 644 00:31:16,093 --> 00:31:23,600 they were required to deposit $300,000 into a Florida bank. 645 00:31:23,634 --> 00:31:25,302 Narrator: Champion-Cain and her partners 646 00:31:25,336 --> 00:31:28,405 make the $300,000 deposit 647 00:31:28,439 --> 00:31:30,841 and are soon provided with all the paperwork 648 00:31:30,874 --> 00:31:33,844 indicating that the financing for their project 649 00:31:33,877 --> 00:31:35,546 has been approved. 650 00:31:35,579 --> 00:31:39,583 All they have to do is wait for the money to come flowing in. 651 00:31:41,418 --> 00:31:45,089 Cramer: Months go by and the funds don't come in 652 00:31:45,122 --> 00:31:46,590 and they don't come in. 653 00:31:46,623 --> 00:31:51,295 And eventually Gina learns... it's a fraud. 654 00:31:51,328 --> 00:31:53,163 The money's gone. 655 00:32:00,471 --> 00:32:01,605 Correct. 656 00:32:07,811 --> 00:32:08,846 Yes. 657 00:32:15,653 --> 00:32:17,187 Correct. 658 00:32:17,221 --> 00:32:20,157 Narrator: But maybe the experience 659 00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:22,359 teaches Champion-Cain a lesson... 660 00:32:22,393 --> 00:32:24,361 A lesson that brings in more 661 00:32:24,395 --> 00:32:27,765 than $350 million from investors. 662 00:32:27,798 --> 00:32:30,734 Cramer: In the course of that scheme that she was a victim of, 663 00:32:30,768 --> 00:32:33,904 she comes to find out that all of these documents 664 00:32:33,937 --> 00:32:37,608 that she'd been receiving from the private equity fund 665 00:32:37,641 --> 00:32:41,445 were forgeries and fabrications, including, for example, 666 00:32:41,478 --> 00:32:43,414 documentation about letters of credit 667 00:32:43,447 --> 00:32:46,917 that secured their $300,000 deposit. 668 00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:50,654 So, what should have been a cautionary tale for Gina 669 00:32:50,688 --> 00:32:53,857 ends up planting a seed or inspiring her 670 00:32:53,891 --> 00:32:58,395 to launch the scheme that she did. 671 00:32:58,429 --> 00:33:00,931 Narrator: If the experience plants a seed, 672 00:33:01,031 --> 00:33:04,635 the fruits of her fraud are about to be exposed 673 00:33:04,668 --> 00:33:09,173 because people are starting to catch on to her. 674 00:33:18,882 --> 00:33:22,219 The Torrey Pines incident was the big one. 675 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,955 Narrator: In 2017, 676 00:33:25,055 --> 00:33:28,258 Kim Peterson reaches out to Torrey Pines Bank 677 00:33:28,292 --> 00:33:30,427 looking for a $5 million loan 678 00:33:30,461 --> 00:33:32,930 to invest in the licensing program. 679 00:33:32,963 --> 00:33:35,599 Torrey Pines is a big real-estate bank, 680 00:33:35,632 --> 00:33:40,204 well known, and they agree to lend him $5 million, 681 00:33:40,237 --> 00:33:43,974 which he's gonna put into the liquor-license program of Gina, 682 00:33:44,074 --> 00:33:46,643 and he's gonna make money on it. 683 00:33:46,677 --> 00:33:49,380 Narrator: But before Torrey Pines will make the loan, 684 00:33:49,413 --> 00:33:50,981 they want to see some backup 685 00:33:51,081 --> 00:33:55,953 and ask Kim Peterson to provide copies of his escrow agreements. 686 00:33:55,986 --> 00:33:58,789 He provides copies of agreements from Chicago Title 687 00:33:58,822 --> 00:34:02,559 representing a total of $140 million, 688 00:34:02,593 --> 00:34:06,330 signed by a supposed Chicago Title employee... 689 00:34:06,363 --> 00:34:08,132 Wendy Reynolds. 690 00:34:08,165 --> 00:34:11,135 Peterson: One of the bankers called down to Chicago Title 691 00:34:11,168 --> 00:34:13,470 'cause they were confused about the wiring instructions 692 00:34:13,504 --> 00:34:15,539 and asked for Wendy Reynolds. 693 00:34:15,572 --> 00:34:17,875 And they said, you know, that there, 694 00:34:17,908 --> 00:34:20,544 "We don't know a Wendy Reynolds here." 695 00:34:20,577 --> 00:34:24,415 It's a made-up name. Gina made it up. 696 00:34:24,448 --> 00:34:27,584 Narrator: In a careless blunder, Champion-Cain forges 697 00:34:27,618 --> 00:34:31,755 the name of a fictitious person on Peterson's escrow agreements. 698 00:34:31,789 --> 00:34:34,625 And while Torrey Pines is unraveling that mystery, 699 00:34:34,658 --> 00:34:37,161 Michael Brewer is doing some digging of his own 700 00:34:37,194 --> 00:34:41,532 when a client asks him about the lending program. 701 00:34:41,565 --> 00:34:44,335 Brewer: He called me up out of the blue and asked me, 702 00:34:44,368 --> 00:34:45,669 well, what did I think of this 703 00:34:45,703 --> 00:34:48,439 and would I look into it for him. 704 00:34:48,472 --> 00:34:50,607 And I immediately had a number of concerns 705 00:34:50,641 --> 00:34:53,053 with the documents that were provided to him 706 00:34:53,077 --> 00:34:54,578 because they were deals 707 00:34:54,611 --> 00:34:57,414 that did not require liquor-license escrows. 708 00:34:57,448 --> 00:34:59,483 So those were automatically red flags that, 709 00:34:59,516 --> 00:35:00,818 "No, there's no escrow on these, 710 00:35:00,851 --> 00:35:02,586 so why would they need to borrow money 711 00:35:02,619 --> 00:35:05,656 because there's no escrow required in the first place." 712 00:35:05,689 --> 00:35:07,691 And going through the due-diligence platform, 713 00:35:07,725 --> 00:35:10,461 we discovered... We came to the conclusion 714 00:35:10,494 --> 00:35:11,929 that it was a Ponzi scheme. 715 00:35:12,029 --> 00:35:15,733 Narrator: And Brewer isn't the only one 716 00:35:15,766 --> 00:35:18,202 beginning to see the light. 717 00:35:18,235 --> 00:35:20,604 When "American Greed" returns... 718 00:35:20,637 --> 00:35:23,374 the feds are after Champion-Cain, 719 00:35:23,407 --> 00:35:26,910 and she knows it will only end one way. 720 00:35:26,944 --> 00:35:29,079 Champion-Cain: Yeah. They never work. 721 00:35:29,113 --> 00:35:31,081 Ponzi schemes never work. 722 00:35:31,115 --> 00:35:33,651 Everyone knows that. Man: Right. 723 00:35:33,684 --> 00:35:40,357 ♪♪ 724 00:35:44,061 --> 00:35:47,665 ♪♪ 725 00:35:47,698 --> 00:35:51,702 Narrator: In May 2019, Gina Champion-Cain 726 00:35:51,735 --> 00:35:54,772 receives a disturbing letter from the SEC 727 00:35:54,805 --> 00:35:58,175 announcing that she is under investigation. 728 00:35:58,208 --> 00:36:01,512 But she isn't ready for last call. 729 00:36:01,545 --> 00:36:02,880 Galvin: On the one hand, 730 00:36:02,913 --> 00:36:05,416 she was cooperative with their investigation. 731 00:36:05,449 --> 00:36:06,784 But behind closed doors, 732 00:36:06,817 --> 00:36:08,619 she was doing everything she could to thwart 733 00:36:08,652 --> 00:36:10,654 the government's investigation of her scheme. 734 00:36:10,688 --> 00:36:14,491 She instructed employees not to produce certain documents 735 00:36:14,525 --> 00:36:16,002 that were incriminating. 736 00:36:16,026 --> 00:36:18,062 She ordered employees in the accounting department 737 00:36:18,095 --> 00:36:20,497 to alter accounting records to make it look 738 00:36:20,531 --> 00:36:24,101 like she didn't use investor funds for personal expenses. 739 00:36:24,134 --> 00:36:26,603 She ordered employees to shred a huge volume 740 00:36:26,637 --> 00:36:29,606 of hard-copy documents that were incriminating. 741 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,241 Even after she knew that the government 742 00:36:31,275 --> 00:36:32,776 was investigating her scheme, 743 00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:35,145 she continued to try to get money from investors. 744 00:36:35,179 --> 00:36:36,780 She couldn't stop. 745 00:36:36,814 --> 00:36:39,183 She tried to get $150 million 746 00:36:39,216 --> 00:36:42,252 to add to her fund with this misguided belief 747 00:36:42,286 --> 00:36:44,521 that with that additional money she could keep it going, 748 00:36:44,555 --> 00:36:46,032 that she could make 749 00:36:46,056 --> 00:36:47,891 all the government investigators go away, 750 00:36:47,925 --> 00:36:51,037 prop up her business and everything would be fine. 751 00:36:51,061 --> 00:36:54,932 Champion-Cain: We were working on the Patio Marketplace IPO 752 00:36:54,965 --> 00:36:57,043 that we were gonna take that public 753 00:36:57,067 --> 00:37:00,037 and put it out there and get the money back 754 00:37:00,070 --> 00:37:04,274 to pay the folks the outstanding debt back, 755 00:37:04,308 --> 00:37:07,478 and that was the goal. 756 00:37:07,511 --> 00:37:09,489 Weisberg: You know, when you hear that, it almost sounds 757 00:37:09,513 --> 00:37:11,849 like the addicted gambler 758 00:37:11,882 --> 00:37:15,152 who wants to go to the blackjack table one more time. 759 00:37:15,185 --> 00:37:18,088 She was convinced that the strength of her portfolio 760 00:37:18,122 --> 00:37:20,724 was gonna... By taking it public, 761 00:37:20,758 --> 00:37:23,694 she could pay everyone back. 762 00:37:23,727 --> 00:37:27,131 Narrator: She doesn't just mine the big pockets of San Diego. 763 00:37:27,164 --> 00:37:30,467 She even takes advantage of her loyal acolytes and friends 764 00:37:30,501 --> 00:37:35,472 for every dollar she can get to save her scheme and her skin, 765 00:37:35,506 --> 00:37:38,642 no matter what the circumstance. 766 00:37:38,676 --> 00:37:40,811 When Pamela Corey's father dies, 767 00:37:40,844 --> 00:37:43,147 she inherits $20,000. 768 00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:47,718 And she entrusts it all to her mentor, Gina Champion-Cain. 769 00:37:47,751 --> 00:37:50,721 It's the first investment she's ever made. 770 00:37:50,754 --> 00:37:52,565 Corey: You know, before, I was just kind of living 771 00:37:52,589 --> 00:37:54,224 paycheck to paycheck, you know, 772 00:37:54,258 --> 00:37:57,328 just kind of living your normal life. 773 00:37:57,361 --> 00:38:01,598 And, yeah, so it was exciting to have money to use. 774 00:38:01,632 --> 00:38:03,100 Narrator: But she might as well 775 00:38:03,133 --> 00:38:05,102 be flushing it all down the toilet, 776 00:38:05,135 --> 00:38:08,839 because the feds are about to break down the door. 777 00:38:08,872 --> 00:38:11,208 The same day Champion-Cain receives her letter 778 00:38:11,241 --> 00:38:16,780 from the SEC, Kim Peterson is also subpoenaed. 779 00:38:16,814 --> 00:38:19,993 He thinks it must all be a misunderstanding. 780 00:38:20,017 --> 00:38:24,154 But Peterson is the one who doesn't understand. 781 00:38:24,188 --> 00:38:27,091 They start showing me all these escrow documents and I go, 782 00:38:27,124 --> 00:38:29,793 "Yeah, yeah, yeah," identify all the stuff 783 00:38:29,827 --> 00:38:32,830 and they ask me questions for 7-8 hours, 784 00:38:32,863 --> 00:38:34,541 you know, about the business and all this stuff, 785 00:38:34,565 --> 00:38:36,800 and nothing unusual. 786 00:38:36,834 --> 00:38:38,378 And then at the end, they give me this... 787 00:38:38,402 --> 00:38:42,139 The final document they gave me was a holding agreement. 788 00:38:43,907 --> 00:38:46,076 Narrator: The document is stunning. 789 00:38:46,110 --> 00:38:49,613 It's an agreement between Champion-Cain and Chicago Title 790 00:38:49,646 --> 00:38:55,753 forged by Champion-Cain entirely without Peterson's knowledge. 791 00:38:55,786 --> 00:38:57,855 It allows Champion-Cain access 792 00:38:57,888 --> 00:39:00,224 to the hundreds of millions of dollars 793 00:39:00,257 --> 00:39:03,394 that Peterson believes is being held safely 794 00:39:03,427 --> 00:39:06,530 in his own escrow accounts. 795 00:39:06,563 --> 00:39:11,068 He asks his lawyers to look into it and gets terrible news. 796 00:39:11,101 --> 00:39:13,671 Not only is the document real, 797 00:39:13,704 --> 00:39:17,374 but all his escrow agreements are fake. 798 00:39:17,408 --> 00:39:19,786 Peterson: He called and said all those escrows are fraudulent 799 00:39:19,810 --> 00:39:21,988 and there's only $11 million in this account. 800 00:39:22,012 --> 00:39:24,415 There's not $140 million. 801 00:39:24,448 --> 00:39:27,418 And I just went, "Oh, my God." 802 00:39:27,451 --> 00:39:31,889 So that is when, you know, then we knew that there was, 803 00:39:31,922 --> 00:39:34,191 you know, a big problem. 804 00:39:34,224 --> 00:39:36,060 Narrator: It's becoming a big problem 805 00:39:36,093 --> 00:39:37,428 for Champion-Cain as well. 806 00:39:37,461 --> 00:39:42,366 On August 28, 2019, the SEC freezes all of her 807 00:39:42,399 --> 00:39:46,203 and American National Investments' assets. 808 00:39:46,236 --> 00:39:50,774 And in July 2020, criminal charges are filed. 809 00:39:50,808 --> 00:39:55,079 Champion-Cain admitted under oath in court 810 00:39:55,112 --> 00:39:58,449 that she was the mastermind of a massive 811 00:39:58,482 --> 00:40:02,052 $400 million Ponzi scheme. 812 00:40:02,086 --> 00:40:05,689 Galvin: Ultimately, Gina Champion-Cain pleaded guilty, 813 00:40:05,723 --> 00:40:08,392 accepted responsibility for her role 814 00:40:08,425 --> 00:40:11,462 in orchestrating the biggest Ponzi scheme 815 00:40:11,495 --> 00:40:13,731 in the history of San Diego. 816 00:40:13,764 --> 00:40:15,232 Over seven years, 817 00:40:15,265 --> 00:40:18,002 she brought in nearly $400 million from investors. 818 00:40:18,035 --> 00:40:21,005 Investors lost over $180 million 819 00:40:21,038 --> 00:40:23,207 and she used tens of millions of dollars 820 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:27,011 to prop up her businesses and for her own personal expenses. 821 00:40:28,345 --> 00:40:29,713 Narrator: Despite the betrayal, 822 00:40:29,747 --> 00:40:32,082 as Champion-Cain awaits sentencing, 823 00:40:32,116 --> 00:40:36,920 Pamela Corey remains in touch with the woman she once admired. 824 00:40:36,954 --> 00:40:38,689 Corey: She didn't directly say, "I'm sorry." 825 00:40:38,722 --> 00:40:41,425 She just said, "I promise you'll get all your money back, 826 00:40:41,458 --> 00:40:45,095 you know, and I'm going to pay everybody back." 827 00:40:45,129 --> 00:40:46,673 But she said she felt like she had a weight 828 00:40:46,697 --> 00:40:49,266 lifted off her shoulders, like, she slept better at night 829 00:40:49,299 --> 00:40:50,934 because now she doesn't have to carry 830 00:40:50,968 --> 00:40:54,705 this huge lie around with her, so... 831 00:40:54,738 --> 00:40:56,140 I don't know. 832 00:40:56,173 --> 00:40:59,643 It's hard to get into the mind of a sociopath. 833 00:40:59,677 --> 00:41:04,448 Narrator: At sentencing, the judge's gavel lands hard. 834 00:41:04,481 --> 00:41:07,027 Champion-Cain was sentenced to 15 years in prison, 835 00:41:07,051 --> 00:41:08,528 and what's interesting and significant 836 00:41:08,552 --> 00:41:11,422 about this sentencing was that federal prosecutors 837 00:41:11,455 --> 00:41:12,456 had actually asked 838 00:41:12,489 --> 00:41:16,036 for 130 months' sentence, which is about 12 years. 839 00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:17,695 And the judge actually didn't think 840 00:41:17,728 --> 00:41:22,042 that was enough and tacked more years onto her sentence. 841 00:41:22,066 --> 00:41:25,045 Narrator: For many, justice was served. 842 00:41:25,069 --> 00:41:28,048 She defrauded all of San Diego and Mission Beach 843 00:41:28,072 --> 00:41:31,408 and, you know, it's a bummer to drive by the stores 844 00:41:31,442 --> 00:41:34,211 and see them all closed down, you know. 845 00:41:34,244 --> 00:41:37,448 But there's just bad karma in there. 846 00:41:37,481 --> 00:41:40,417 This whole place needs to be saged. 847 00:41:40,451 --> 00:41:42,953 Narrator: Over the course of speaking with Champion-Cain 848 00:41:42,987 --> 00:41:44,521 while researching his book, 849 00:41:44,555 --> 00:41:49,560 Neil Senturia says one interaction with her stands out. 850 00:41:49,593 --> 00:41:50,995 Senturia: There's a moment 851 00:41:51,095 --> 00:41:52,696 when I ask her the following question. 852 00:41:52,730 --> 00:41:59,336 I say, "Gina, if you'd only had the one really good restaurant, 853 00:41:59,370 --> 00:42:03,574 The Patio, and two or three vacation rentals, 854 00:42:03,607 --> 00:42:05,576 would it have been enough?" 855 00:42:05,609 --> 00:42:13,584 And there's a... a moment and I think she nods and says, "Yeah." 856 00:42:13,617 --> 00:42:17,287 And so the question for all of us in some ways is. 857 00:42:17,321 --> 00:42:18,822 "How much is enough?" 858 00:42:18,856 --> 00:42:26,856 ♪♪ 859 00:42:56,427 --> 00:42:59,596 Captions by VITAC... 860 00:42:59,630 --> 00:43:07,630 ♪♪