[birds chirping]
[echoing] It's reunion day.
[dramatic music]
♪
Did you notice Ubah's not here?
I know.
She's doing her hair and makeup at her house.
Think she's regretting all the mean texts
that she's been sending?
The sh-- that we've dealt with on the group chat this week,
it was like The Hot Tub Time Machine from Hell
Part 2 via text.
Hot Tub Time Machine from Hell is exactly what it was.
Ubah, right this way.
Well, she's, like, lost-- lost her sh-- this week.
How are you feeling about today?
- Very hurt. - Very hurt?
Yeah.
My teammate did not stand up for me.
OK.
And Erin lied and gaslighted me.
OK. Well, the goal of today is to--
- To clarify. - Talk about it all.
Yeah.
And then hopefully come to a better place.
Yes. That's all.
It's not going to turn into Fight Club, is it?
I have no idea what happened to her.
Something happened to me?
You don't own your sh--. You lied.
Just, like, heard you saying what I do for a living,
calling me names-- - I've never said anything.
Calling me a slut and a whore.
TV Jenna is poor me, victim.
And the real Jenna is powerhouse.
I'm fired up.
You are fired up.
And I never get fired up.
- You watched the show? - I did.
Do you watch it with a----ing blindfold over your face?
Hey, everybody. I'm Andy Cohen.
And this is "The Real Housewives of New York City:
Season 14 Reunion."
I'm joined by a fresh group of powerful, intelligent,
and dynamic women, who I can say with confidence
have no idea what's in store for them today.
[laughter] Hello, ladies.
all: Hi. - Thanks.
- Hi, Erin. - Hi, Andy.
Did your dad give you any advice for tonight?
Yes, he did. He said, be strong.
- That's good advice. - Yeah.
Jenna, I have to tell you.
In hundreds of reunions,
never seen jeans-- - [laughs]
First time, you're a trailblazer.
- JFL. - JFL.
Jenna----ing Lyons did it again.
I have to represent.
- Represent? - Denim?
- Levi? - Denim.
Levi's. [laughter]
- Hey, Sai. - Hi, Andy.
- You look incredible. - Thank you.
Let's address the elephant in the room.
- Yeah. - Have you eaten?
I did.
I brought my own groceries today.
Thank you.
- She brings her own lunch. - I brought all my own food.
I'm going to eat, honey.
I'm here to eat. - OK, good.
Hi, Jessel. - Hi, Andy.
- You look beautiful. - Thank you.
Did Pavit help you pick out tonight's look?
- Absolutely. - Really?
He said this was a glorified garbage bag.
[laughter]
- Hi, Brynn. - Hi, Daddy.
How are you? [laughter]
Reporting for duty. [laughter]
How would you describe your look tonight?
- It's a little sexy Pilgrim. - OK.
Yeah, Salem Witch Trials meets OnlyFans.
Last but not least, hello--
- Save the best for last, baby. - Ubah. There you go.
Hi, how are you?
I want to start by saying I love each and everyone
in this stage. - Same.
For me, this has been a very, very scary experience
because my last job, it was--
you take a picture, and that's it.
Nobody know your voice. Nobody know your name.
And now I'm actually representing myself.
Right.
And it's just so nice to know that I'm going
through it with these girls. - Yeah, OK.
That's a good place to start.
How do you all feel about being the new crop
of "The Real Housewives of New York City"?
You had big shoes to fill.
- Definitely. - And you did it.
You did it very successfully.
I just wonder what the reaction has been from the fans
and what's been going on in your own minds?
Jenna? - Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Did you just say we did well?
You did great.
- Oh, thank you. - That is great.
- We'll take it. - Thank you.
You did great. Jenna?
I mean, I think everyone keeps trying to compare us
to the other women. They were incredible.
I don't want to try and replace them.
I think we're just a different thing.
And I think that makes me feel incredibly proud.
He's like, she's my mom. - [laughs]
- Aww. - That's pretty proud.
That's sweet. OK. Here we go.
Well, New Yorkers are known to be tough as nails,
and Erin is no exception.
From taking care of three kids to running a business
and keeping Abe satisfied,
there's nothing this homegirl can't do.
Let's watch. - [gasps]
Ooh.
Keeping Abe satisfied?
I mean, uh...
You don't got to go home.
But you do have to get out of here.
I am born and raised in Manhattan
in an Israeli family.
Shabbat Shalom.
Shabbat Shalom, guys. I love you.
We are a very close family.
We literally talk 10 times a day.
I grew up in the real estate business.
Both my parents are in real estate.
My mother actually sold Three Lincoln Center.
Dealing with the things I have to deal with
on a daily basis makes me really intolerant
when it comes to bullsh--.
My husband doesn't get turned on unless I come.
Like, he doesn't want to come unless I am coming.
He got a blow job. That's a big deal.
It shouldn't be a big deal.
- [laughs] - I feel bad for Erin
because I just want it all the time.
- [laughs] - No comment.
I will continue to keep you satisfied emotionally
and definitely physically.
[cheering] - You're into swinging?
Not yet, but I think I could be in, like, 10 years.
What planet are we living on?
Planet New York.
That was funny.
I heard that you recently moved.
How do you like your new home? - I love it.
What's it like? Brownstone?
No.
Eventually, I think we'll make our way.
But for now, we're in a rental Uptown.
Up and coming.
Very up and coming. [laughter]
- What's more happening? - I mean, right now, Tribeca.
Tribeca.
It's like really up and coming.
It's not. It's--it's there.
I mean, you know, is it there?
I feel like there's still a lot of potential.
'Cause I made it happening.
Oh-- [laughter]
- Yes. - Oh, my God, stop.
You're joking.
It was literally the most liked tweet...
I know but you didn't make Tribeca happen.
No, I'm saying I made it like--
- That was a joke. - Yeah.
Well, that's what I was asking.
I didn't make Tribeca happen. No, I didn't build Tribeca, no.
Erin, Lucy from Bronx wants to know how homegirl is doing.
Homegirl is good.
I have one very big project coming.
So I'm super excited.
Jay from Pasadena wants to know
what it's like working with Fredrik.
He is exactly what you see.
Like, what you see on TV is Fredrik in person.
We love that.
Oh.
You think Jenna is not as she appears on television.
What is different between TV Jenna and real Jenna?
Because I think TV Jenna is poor me, victim, I'm old,
I'm this.
And the real Jenna, it's powerhouse.
What do you think of that?
I mean, I-- I don't even know what to say.
[laughs] I think it's a lot different
having cameras watching you.
Having vulnerability and being powerful,
they can exist together.
I'm not in a power situation in this dynamic at all.
Every time someone yelling or something, you are never--
nowhere to be found, and I don't know.
I just feel like you kind of avoid
a lot of, you know, things.
I'm happy to address something that involves me.
I'm not so excited about
weighing in on someone else's-- - But you're excited
making opinion about people when you are not in the scene.
What opinion did I make about someone?
You said you pick Team Erin.
We're going to-- we're going to get to it.
- Yeah. - OK.
Erin, Mark from London said, watching the show,
it seems like you're the matriarch of your family.
How often do people in your family
come to you with their problems?
Oh, my God, I don't know why I'm getting emotional.
Um, all the time, like a lot.
Why does that make you emotional?
I had a rough summer.
- You had a rough summer? - Yeah.
- Family-wise? - Oh, my God.
What's going on?
Um... [sighs]
My mom had, like, health issues this summer that were hard.
And I just went through it with another family member.
And it's like, it's all on me.
Why is it all on you?
I think because I'm the oldest of--
so my dad's a single father of four.
When you say single father, what does that mean?
So my mom and dad had me, and then they got divorced.
So your mom, she's still in your life?
She's--yeah, she's-- I'm with her all day.
I was with her yesterday.
My dad got remarried, like, 3 and 1/2 years after,
and had four kids.
And then they got divorced,
so my dad became a single father.
So was he the primary caregiver for the kids?
Yeah. So I was the older girl with four--
So you kind of became the mom of the family.
I grew up really young, yeah.
You know, my dad would go to Israel for work.
And I'd be 15 years old with four--
like, I'd watch them for, like, two weeks.
Wake them up for school.
Like, that's why I'm so type A and tightly wound.
Like, nobody really understands that.
Like, I have to be.
Wow. So that's a lot on your shoulders.
So much.
So this summer was just hard because when it was my mother,
it was just, like, all me.
Right.
Always stressful when you have to start
taking care of your parents.
OK. I want to move on to something else.
Erin, Kaley from Florence, Alabama
wants to know if you and Abe would
seriously consider swinging. - No.
There's no shame in the consensual monogamy game--
[laughter] Says Kaley.
No, consensual non-monogamy.
- Consensual. - Alabama.
We would not-- we would not swing.
We like to play around.
We like to talk about sex with friends.
It's not serious. - I don't know about that.
You guys that night, at dinner, seem very, like, recruit-like.
- That was more about-- - That was funny.
It seemed like you were some sort
of recruiting services there.
I was like, wait a minute, babe.
I think me and you got to take off.
Erin, Ana Lina from San Juan, Puerto Rico
wants to know how much you spent
on your 10th anniversary
versus how much was covered by sponsors.
[chuckles] Oh, my God.
All right. So the sponsor thing,
a lot of these brands were really small.
And they asked me if they could put their name on the invite.
I didn't care. It didn't bother me.
Now, looking back, I would not do it
because it seemed to bother everybody else.
You would totally still do it.
- No. - Yes, you would.
You didn't care. It was just sponsored.
You wanted it sponsored.
And it was what it is. - Yeah, whatever.
There's nothing actually wrong with having a sponsor.
What we were talking about is that,
it just looked funny on the invite.
When you see it at the bottom, it looked like when
you go to, sponsored by--
It looked like a Coachella poster.
I mean, I spent money on the food.
That's the most amount of money I spent.
Was it worth the money, Sai?
Honey, you need a refund.
Noah on Twitter said, why is Erin not serving food?
- Oh, my God. - Why did she continue to serve
appetizers to hungry people?
- It was a cocktail party. - Erin, defend your hostessing.
I am going to, because I host all the time.
We are Jewish.
We center everything around food.
True. Jews love a nosh.
And we always have food around.
Yes.
So my anniversary party,
I thought was like more of a cocktail vibe.
What was it, like, 9:00 to 1:00 or something?
It was, like, 7:00.
- Well, 8:00 is dinner time. - I know.
If you invite people to a party at 8:00,
that means there's going to be food.
- It's a meal time. - There was food.
Pavit wrote on Instagram,
I was starving.
Erin needs to consult me for the next one.
Pavit.
- What's your reaction to that? - Pavit.
He's like the seventh housewife.
No, he is. He really is.
He was hungry.
I will consult Pavit for the next one.
- OK. - Just finger food.
Just finger food.
Erin, you recently went on a podcast
and said the following about Sai.
You said, I thought we got along.
But all she does is talk about me in her confessionals.
Really bothered me that she made fun of my shakshuka.
I didn't make fun of it.
Sandra from Montecito, California said,
how has watching the show
changed your view on the friendship?
Honestly, I have no idea what happened to her.
Something, like, switched--
- Me? - Where I was--
Something happened to me?
You lie, and you don't own your sh--.
[tense music]
Coming up--
Sai, why did you get so angry at Brynn for asking Ubah
about Mr. Connecticut when you broke
Ubah's trust yourself?
- That is a great question. - It is.
Honestly, I have no idea what happened to her.
Something, like, switched--
- Me? - Where I was--
Something happened to me?
You lie, and you don't own your sh--.
Here we go, another liar in the group.
- That is not a-- - Everybody lies,
according to you. - Here we go.
Who's a liar?
You're the one who lied clearly.
You said something on a podcast,
and you did not admit it. - I'm not able to answer.
You told Brynn this lie. It was a complete lie.
I never came to your house and said those things
about cheese, never.
That's like the game of telephone, Sai.
Why would you get on a podcast
and say I came to your house--
- That's not what I said. - I have it.
- Play it. - Sure.
Where's Lip, excuse me. - Play that.
The only thing that I would say, though,
is I just find it so ironic that everybody
called me a liar. - Let's just hear this.
- She didn't say it? - But this was, like,
before we started filming.
I hosted something for all the girls.
And, like, Sai was like, oh, so all we're having is cheese?
This one's always hungry. This one's always hungry.
And I was like, yeah. - I didn't say that, Erin.
I never came to-- - Can I talk?
- No. I'm talking. - OK.
I never came to your house and said that, never.
Ubah was there. Jessel was there.
I brought you a nice bottle of champagne.
We were there to have a good time.
I was the only person eating the cheese actually.
Stop insinuating this story that I'm a rude person
and came to your house and complained.
That's not what I said then.
Well, you said that she said all you're having is cheese?
Yeah, because she called me and she said,
should I eat dinner before?
Or are you serving dinner?
And I said, no, we're going to do like wine and cheese.
Did she come to your house and say,
all there is, is cheese. - Did I say that?
No, she didn't say it like that, no.
Then why would you say that in a podcast?
I didn't say it as accurately as what happened.
I meant it like more proverbially.
You were like, oh, all we're having is cheese.
That's--that's what I meant.
I really don't remember anything
from that night except that we all had a great time.
- Me too. - And it was fine--
I wasn't saying this in a negative way.
Right, but at the same time, like, I--
there's so much focus on this cheese.
- I agree. - But it keeps--
it's a gift that keeps on giving.
I think they should focus how you guys
didn't want Jenna in this show.
- Huh? - Who?
The three of you.
I didn't want Jenna on this show?
- What? - Yes.
What are you talking about, Ubah?
[laughs] What?
Well, that's a side bomb.
Anyway, I misspoke.
I should have said it more accurately.
It was nice that you invited us.
It was nice that you gave us cheese.
And then for you to insinuate-- - I didn't think
that that would upset you.
I--I misspoke. - It's a lie.
How could you think that a lie wouldn't upset me?
So you're--so you're saying you misspoke?
Sure.
I don't think it's, like, that deep.
I actually said, if you listened
to the podcast, a lovely thing about you right after.
I said, I actually really love Sai.
She's a close friend of mine. - I didn't hear any of that.
Well, because you didn't want to,
because you were so incensed. - [laughs]
And then it was, like, you're so angry.
Whatever. It doesn't even matter.
That's what happened.
Erin, Lia from Durham, North Carolina said,
on the show, you said you're direct and cannot be fake.
But some of the women have called you out for being rude.
What's the difference between being direct and being rude?
I think sometimes I can come off a little rude and crass.
And maybe it's something I should work on.
- [snorts] - All right.
I don't think Erin is rude.
I think she's polite. She's elegant.
She's nice.
But I think she's a sh-- stirrer.
Yes, I start sh--.
- She gaslight. - I think she gaslights.
You're not rude, but you're a gaslighting, sh-- stirrer.
- Yeah. - Very nice.
Let's leave it there.
I think it's safe to say that no one had
Jenna Lyons becoming a Real Housewife
on their 2023 Bingo card.
This season, we learned
that much like a great pair of lashes,
there's more to her than meets the eye.
Let's take a look.
[upbeat music]
Don't grab at my ass.
- Does he usually drink coffee? - Mm-hmm.
It's a problem.
I would have loved to work for you.
Well, ask people who work for me and see--
[laughter]
That bitch.
We look at magazines, and we see Jenna.
And she's, like, boss bitch.
Oh, my God, the infamous shoe closet.
[heavenly organ music]
Oh, it's gorgeous.
How long have you been single?
Not long enough.
Dominant or submissive?
I don't sleep with men, so everyone gets taken care of.
Sign me up.
Did you come out, or is this something that--
Oh, no. [chuckles]
That was done for me by "The New York Post."
While it was devastating, everyone was incredible.
I'm so sorry, by the way, about your mom.
- Thank you. - Was it, like, a month ago?
It's, like, six weeks now.
And your mom were really close?
My mom had Asperger's.
So she didn't have the ability to make connections.
Connection.
Being able to have a loving relationship with Beckett
I think mends a little bit of what I didn't have.
What do you think of this?
That looks really wacky.
It's Celine.
- You wore a bathing suit. - I wear a bathing suit.
I just won't wear it without anything over it.
My skin is, like, 8 million different colors.
If I looked like Sai or Brynn or any of them,
none of this conversation would be happening.
You get to walk one day in my skin, and then we'll talk.
I grew up feeling so unattractive and so not cool.
So for someone to say, can I take a picture with you,
is like--like, how many pictures do you want?
- Are you happy? - Yes.
That's the most important thing.
You see that smile?
That's it.
So wild, given your public persona,
that you grew up feeling unattractive and unseen.
What made me want to pursue a career in fashion
was because I didn't feel good.
And when I started to find clothing, all of a sudden,
I felt better in my skin, like, it was powerful.
So it got me over that hump of feeling kind of, like,
the not cool, ugly duckling kid.
And yeah, it was an incredible experience for me.
When the show started filming,
you had lost your mom.
How's--how--like--
- Yes, six weeks. - Six weeks before?
No--yeah. Maybe four.
Right.
And though you weren't close,
it was difficult connecting with her?
Yeah.
But clearly, it's still raw for you.
Well, I think what it makes you realize
is particularly when--
you know, I remember going over to Jessel's house,
and her mom was so tender and warm.
And I think it made me mourn for, like, remembering.
And we did--even when we did that healing thing with you,
it's like I remember that woman said to me,
tell your seven-year-old self that you're OK.
You'd like to bring your inner child here
and say to her, you're safe.
Hi, Jenna, you're safe.
Thinking about how I felt when I was young,
I just felt so lost and alone.
So I didn't really have that person.
[somber music]
♪
When we did that healing thing with you, it's like--
I remember that woman said to me,
tell your seven-year-old self that you're OK.
Tell your 14-year-old self you're OK.
And I remember, like, thinking about
how I felt when I was young.
I just felt so lost and alone
because I didn't really have that person.
Jenna, when you came over to my house that day,
I also had this assumption of you being, you know, this--
this hard exterior, and Jenna met my mom.
And it just--she's human.
And she was going through emotions
that were so real and raw in the moment.
You've given me more attention
than my mother ever gave me, it's kind of crazy.
- I can be your mother. - I mean--
- You know that. - I'll pay you, honestly.
- [laughs] - Oh, no.
You're so brave to do what you did so close after that.
I was more on autopilot.
Like, I think-- you know, I remember
when we were at the healing and you were feeling your mom.
And you obviously talked about me.
Me and you were going through it when we were in Anguilla.
And it's like, it doesn't happen.
You don't feel it in the moment it happens.
It's almost like you get into, like, business mode.
It's like, well, what do I need to do?
What do I need to care of? OK. I'm OK.
And then something will happen, like someone will hug you
or, like, my son will say something to me.
And I realize, like, and I'll say back to him,
like, I'm so proud of you.
And that's--and I hear the words coming out of my mouth.
And I'm like, my mom was never--
like I don't think I ever heard those words, you know?
Yeah, yeah. Like, a friend's parents--
I was seasick about something. And then I--she hugged me.
And I just broke down because it's like
when you feel the love that--
that you didn't get, it's like almost overwhelming.
It doesn't--and you realize, like, [BLEEP].
I missed this? I've missed this my whole life?
And then you kind of get, like, angry and sad and like--
I don't know how you guys, both of you--
like, it's 2 years, 12 years, and we still, you know, so--
Every success that you saw in the last 20 years,
did that seep into her at all?
It did. And I also have, like,
a lot of tenderness from my mom.
She knew that she couldn't find it.
She was in pain 'cause she couldn't connect.
She's like, I don't know what to say.
I don't know what the right thing is to say.
I don't know how to soothe you.
I don't--she knew that she couldn't, and so--
Wow, which is even more heartbreaking.
Yeah, it was heartbreaking.
And it just couldn't get to the other side.
Jenna, I love watching you as a mom.
Me too.
You are so good with your son.
Thank you.
This is why I keep wondering.
If you didn't give it, when you give it,
is it weird to give it to him?
It is.
It's like a healing process in a way
that I can't explain 'cause it's like--
I was so scared that I wouldn't be a good mom.
You know, listen, I lean and watch other people
'cause I don't always know exactly
what is supposed to happen.
But when Beckett, like, says to me, you know, or tells--
I can hear his friends telling it.
"My mom's really cool. I love my mom."
It's like-- [gasps]
Brynn, I'm wondering, do you have similar concerns
about the mother that you will be,
based on what you didn't have growing up?
A thousand percent, yeah.
And I'm scared that when I have kids--
[sniffles] I'm going to--
I'm going to love them how I love my nieces.
I'm going to love them so much.
And I'm worried I'm going to just keep thinking,
why didn't they do-- like, because I know
it's going to be innate. - No.
- But you shouldn't worry. - I know.
Jenna just told you.
It's a healing process. - I know.
And you know what, Brynn?
You're going to be so entrenched in it
that you're not going to be thinking about it.
And by the time your kid is, like, old enough,
you're going to be like, wow, I did a----ing great job.
I said it at the beginning, and I still will say it.
Bitches and whores, but literally
the best----ing moms, all of them.
Like--and your children are a testament.
Like, you all make me want to have children.
Um, Jenna, is your father still alive?
He is. - He is.
My father was very tender and very warm
with the other family that he had,
and so being around it was very hard,
'cause, like, I could see what was going on.
So I was not--
um, it was really tricky.
That's tough.
Brynn and Ubah, you opened up a lot about
your past this season as well.
What kind of reaction have you gotten from viewers?
- Insane, incredible. - Really?
Really, really--yeah.
Literally, I think almost, like, thousands of messages
of just being like, thank you for sharing.
And it's been like-- it's overwhelming.
It's nice.
It makes it worthwhile because sometimes
you're like, why the [BLEEP] did I share all this?
It's been tough.
But it's, like, therapeutic in some, you know,----ed up way.
[laughs] You know?
Ubah, what about you?
Um, I didn't get thousands of messages.
But the message that I've got,
I have heard people say that I had a really
bad relationship with my mom.
And because of you, I made a phone call.
I went to visit her.
And that makes me happy to know that they can correct this
before they lose their mom.
When my mom got sick, she's the first person I called.
Oh, really?
Because my mom and I are just like women fighting.
Ubah has said to me, don't do this.
Don't screw up your relationship with your mother
while you have her. - Right.
If you check on Twitter,
there were thousands of people saying they called
their mother because of you. - [sobs]
- There were thousands. - So beautiful, really.
[crying] I would give anything to have her back.
- I know that. - [sobbing]
[exhales]
Sai, as someone who had challenges with your own mom,
I wonder, how does not having that picture
perfect childhood, how has that affected you?
Yeah, I think it's a lot of trauma
that I definitely carry with me for the simple fact
that I can't--
I don't hash out my feelings.
I kind of run away from them.
But it hasn't--it hasn't affected me being a parent.
But I don't think I've really dealt
with the trauma of my mother.
- You're tough. - I am.
You're really tough.
Is that a coping mechanism--
- It is. - I guess?
I think it is 100% a coping mechanism.
It's--I've had to overcome so much in my life.
I'm broken in the inside.
But at the same time, I don't want to tell anyone that.
I want everyone to look at me
and feel happiness and positivity.
And I mask it with humor, you know? And--
And do you think that that lands?
Do you think you're successful at that?
I am, I do.
I'm wondering if the other women in the group--
if that lands for them.
- So-- - Are you looking at me?
[laughs]
I mean, look, I think you do have a hard exterior.
And it's something that, for me, personally,
I almost took it upon myself
to try to break through.
I really wanted to get to know who you are.
But it was tough.
I'm not someone who shares my feelings--
- I realize that. - Openly.
I don't like it.
I don't like running around telling grown women
I love them so much.
It's just-- - Why not?
I just-- my parents didn't
tell me they loved me constantly.
Yeah.
It's just not how I communicate.
I communicate that way with my children.
But with my friends, I do things with them.
I help them. - OK.
Let me move on.
Jenna, I have to say I'm very impressed.
Considering where you've been and where you've come from,
you know, and just the-- the emotional relationships
you have, that's a success. - You're fearless.
- I mean-- - You go for it.
It's amazing.
You--you overcame rough odds.
There's a divorce in there. [laughs]
No, I understand--
I really think that, Jenna,
you don't celebrate your Ws at all.
You are very hard on yourself. - That's what I meant.
And you don't celebrate your wins.
[laughter]
Because she put herself down so much--
- She puts herself down-- - Which I look at Jenna--
To the point that sometimes--
I want to shake-- I get so upset with you
because I want to shake you.
You have accomplished so much.
And you have some really great people behind you.
When I first met you, I was like,
oh, this one's going to be an ultimate bitch.
And then later on, after watching all of this
and doing this journey with you,
I realized, you're just as broken as me,
but you're amazing.
You're Jenna----ing Lyons. - This is what I meant.
Put the T-shirt on, OK?
- But off camera-- - I'll make the T-shirt.
She--she celebrate her win.
Ubah, that doesn't mean that she doesn't
necessarily celebrate herself.
Maybe she just does it in a different--
But in the show, people don't see that side.
But I think that's just her being vulnerable.
I know. I love that she's vulnerable.
She's like the most vulnerable out of all of us.
- Yeah. - Like, I have stretch marks.
I have uneven boobs.
I wouldn't show any for all the money in the world.
You know what I'm saying?
But like, you, you're popping your teeth out.
You're showing up with no eyelashes.
[laughter] Like, you know what I'm saying?
There's no way there'll be camera
when taking my teeth out. Yeah, no way.
Jenna, at the end of the season,
you were processing a breakup.
But I know there's a new lady in your life.
Can you tell us anything about this?
Uh, what do you want to know?
♪
Jenna, at the end of the season,
you were processing a breakup.
But I know there's a new lady in your life.
Can you tell us anything about this?
What do you want to know?
Well, how long have you been seeing each other?
It's been--gosh, I guess we started
seeing each other probably right as the show was ending.
So--we've known each other for years
because we both were in the same industry.
And I've always had a crush on her.
- Aw. - [laughs]
- That's nice. - So cute.
- Have any of you met her? - Yes.
- We've all met her. - You've all met her?
Yeah.
I planned a dinner at the right place.
OK. [laughter]
Glad you learned, Erin. About time.
And they all got to meet both Beckett and--
- So cute. - He's really sweet.
- Oh, that's nice. - It was great.
How does Beckett get along with her?
- He's obsessed-- - Oh, great.
With her, more than he is with me.
Wow.
Viv from Baltimore, Maryland said,
Erin, what was your reaction finding out
how insecure Jenna is about her body?
You know, even when we went to Anguilla,
I don't think any of us knew how--
- No. - Insecure--
like you said, I'm going to tan and this and that.
But like, I think watching it and seeing how much
you opened up in the confessionals,
I didn't realize it was to that level.
I didn't know until-- yeah, until I watched
the confessionals.
And you're sharing that whole episode.
Which is why I thought, like, it was a kitschy
or whatever first class.
I feel bad about that.
I'm going to say it here. I'm sorry I said it like that.
And then she was like, the truth is,
I'm not flying down with you guys
because I don't fly coach.
- Ew. - OK.
[laughter]
That is the corniest reason I've ever heard.
I should have given more backstory
because you did give me more backstory.
So I'm sorry.
What you guys don't know is when I saw it,
I reached out to Erin and I said
that actually felt sh---y.
Like, I'm really bummed--
Oh, really?
So we have spoken about it.
And I did say, like, that didn't feel good.
And she apologized. - And I did feel bad about it.
Watching back, I apologize.
I think we were very hard on her.
I think it was a table filled with, like, daggers.
- Cackling hags. - And we were just--
yeah, it was a bunch of old cackling hags.
- I wasn't. And Jenna-- - And we did go hard on Jenna.
You said Jenna can suck my dick.
[BLEEP].
Well, to that point, Sarah from Greensboro,
North Carolina says, I can't believe
you were 54 when you went on your first girls' weekend.
Did you not have a group of close girlfriends in college
or when you were at J.Crew?
I went to art school and, like,
there was definitely not a group of girls there.
And I was--I couldn't afford to go on a girls' trip.
And then I was also, like, kind of constantly monogamous.
I was in relationships, so, like,
I just never really found my footing
with doing girls' trips. It never happened.
OK. Ladies, Annie from Santa Clara, California
wants to know if Jenna's closet lived up to the hype?
- Absolutely. - Oh, my God.
My jaw was on the floor when I first walked through there.
Well, except for this one.
You said it was boring, and I had too many button-down--
She did have a lot of button-down.
I saw a sea of stripes.
I give it to you on your shoe closet.
Amazing.
Brynn, Grace from Maryland said,
Sai has an issue with Jenna promoting her products.
But as an influencer,
she makes a living doing that very thing.
Mm-hmm.
Do you think Sai is being a bit hypocritical here?
No, I don't think that she is because it's different-sized.
Very honest about, OK, I have a product I'm doing this.
And like, I have the brief. And then, you know?
She's--it's her work versus this was just gift giving
with the sponsorship angle.
So I think that's where lines got--
The only thing-- I just it want it to be clear.
There was no sponsorship angle.
Yeah.
The things that were in there--
I have a big closet in the back.
And these were all old collabs.
So no one could even purchase them.
And I just wrapped them up.
But what is your perspective on the gifts?
Were you surprised to hear what the other women
were saying in their confessionals?
I was.
I get so many things sent to me.
And I love getting gifts.
And everyone comes over to my house and they're like--
[gasps] I want to get that.
And so I was trying to share.
I also get so many things gifted.
So to me, I think in a marketing way.
So she kept giving us gifts.
I've never had a friend who gives me a gift
almost every single-- - I love gifts.
Time that they see me.
So for me, I'm like, what?
Are you trying to buy me? Like, it didn't feel genuine.
Now that I know you, I understand that
you're just someone who loves to give gifts.
And you're very sweet.
But I really was like, you got to stop.
It was driving me crazy.
Is gift giving your love language?
Your love language.
I love giving and getting gifts.
I love giving gifts. - I love the gifts.
It's one of my favorite things.
For me, it's my love language to receive gifts.
[laughter]
Brynn, Miranda from Iowa City said, you called out
a double standard on how the rest of the group
treated Jenna.
Erin forgave her for leaving her house
in the middle of the night.
Jessel gave her a pass for lying about missing her event.
How did that double standard affect your ability
to connect with Jenna?
And did it make you resentful of her?
Yeah--I don't think it made me more resentful of her.
I don't--I don't think it was so much
of my connection with Jenna.
I think it was just more, like, my hatred or anger
at, like, Erin. - Hatred?
- Like-- - Geez.
Yeah, at that point, I did. It was so because--
Such a strong word for it.
Because it was-- like, I was very--
- I didn't know you had hatred. - Not hatred.
Like, my, like, frustration--no. - Animosity.
But we just like-- I felt like it was unfair.
And I felt like it kept getting unfair.
I was like, wow, it's like the punishment
is not fitting the crime.
And you let her off, you know, easily.
And then I just felt like, I do a little bit,
and I'm, like, punished forever.
But what are you referring to?
Punished forever? - Brynn was right.
Erin, you--you are not as hard on Jenna--
- You weren't hard-- - As you are with Brynn.
You weren't. And at the beginning,
I thought you were kind of kissing Jenna's ass a bit.
- Everybody does. - Whatever.
Well, ladies, June from Missouri said,
you kept asking Jenna to open up.
But when she would talk about her anxiety
around showing her skin, you didn't take it very seriously.
Sai even went as far as to ask Jenna
if she tanned in her burka.
Why be so dismissive about these anxieties?
I do think you're extremely brave for
doing what you did, for sharing your genetic disorder,
for being vulnerable.
It's not easy.
I think you're going to help a lot of people.
- Yes, exactly that. - A lot of them.
But yes, we were very hard on you.
To answer your question, Andy, yes.
We were very hard on you. And we apologize.
- And we're sorry. - Thank you.
Does that feel good?
- Yeah. - This is a sorority.
You have to get hazed. - And we love you.
[laughter]
Jessel, your reaction of utter disgust
to Jenna's real name, Judith--
- Judith? - Was--
- Judith? - Something.
Her name is actually Judith.
Judith?
Judith, to me, lives on the Upper East Side.
She wears pink wool and shops at Bergdorf.
That's not Jenna Lyons.
Do you know anyone named Judith?
[laughs] I know, she's so--
one of my favorite authors is Judith Blume.
I mean, I read her when I was-- - Judy Blume.
Well, her real name is Judith.
OK. Is it?
I don't know. Probably, right?
I'm assuming Judy Blume is a shortened version.
I think my reaction was more just--
I've always known Jenna to be Jenna.
And Judith, to me, and I said it in my confessionals,
is just not this fabulous woman.
I mean, it's just not--
I feel like you felt personally victimized--
[laughs]
When you found out that her name was Judith.
Like, it lost, like, its sparkle.
Just for the record, I legally changed it.
So I am legally Jenna Lyons. - OK.
We're going to leave it there on that note.
We're going to take a break.
There's more of "The Real Housewives
of New York City Reunion" in just a moment.
Coming up--
Why are you instigating, Brynn?
- That's not-- - She can speak for herself.
You heard me. Read my lips.
Welcome back to
"The Real Housewives of New York City Reunion."
I'm Andy Cohen.
Between her modeling career and hot sauce line,
Ubah is about as spicy as it comes.
But while she was happy to bring Ubah Hot to any meal,
we also learned that her relationship
was strictly off the table.
Let's watch.
Gorgeous. I love it. [camera clicking]
Great, Ubah.
What are you serving, Ubah?
- Chocolate, darling. - Yeah?
- [laughs] - She's the best.
- Are you serious? - Do you really have a compass?
Ubah's the only person who could bring
a compass to dinner, and I would not be surprised.
I'm like, of course.
I would come here with a donkey.
[laughs] - I don't get it.
Ubah's special. She's a very special woman.
This is why I love New York,
because you only meet people like that here.
You are confident.
You are smart.
Why are you not in a serious relationship?
I don't know.
Why don't we all close our eyes
and speak to God in your own language?
She's very happy.
Won't say a word.
I mean, she's dating someone.
Ubah!
I heard you got a man in Connecticut?
- You said it on camera. - She said it on camera.
- That was not on - ing camera!
That was-- - That picture is my favorite.
The four of us in a collage.
So she must have heard from Sai.
All right. I spilled the beans.
- Bitch. - I'm going home.
- You're going home? - Yeah, yeah, I'm done.
- Whoo! - All right.
So obviously, we all want to know right away,
what is the status of you and Mr. Connecticut?
Um, still going strong.
- Whoo! - Good. OK.
This is who I met at the premiere party, right?
Yes. You, too, have met him.
- Very tall and handsome. - Very cute. He's very cute.
Yes.
Is there anything you can tell us about him?
- The girls met him. - Yeah.
He's love--like--
He's incredible.
The most lovely man, really--
- He's-- - And very handsome.
- So in love with her. - Yeah.
- Wow. - He has sparkles--
He is the perfect counterpart to Ubah.
How? In what way?
He's patient. He--
- [laughs] - He's loving.
He's loving.
He kind of just, like, looks at her
as if she's like art in a museum.
He is very private, or you were private
about the relationship because?
- He's very private. - He's very private.
- Because of his work. - OK.
Ubah, Roberta from Little Rock, Arkansas said,
it seems like you're still booking lots of modeling jobs.
In a youth-obsessed industry,
how has your modeling career changed
as you've gotten older?
Well, I don't age. I'm just like wine.
I get better with age.
But to be fair, this is the best era to be a model.
- Really? - Yes,
because it does a lot of inclusivity--
every type, every genre, skin tone, age.
Jenna, Shawn from Grand Rapids, Michigan
wants to know what advice you've given Ubah
on taking Ubah Hot to the next level?
Oh. I mean, we had a conversation.
I know you were talking about, should you,
like, polish yourself up for investors
and be more professional?
And my advice was absolutely not.
I think what is amazing about you is Ubah Hot is Ubah Hot.
It's like, you are what you make.
And I think that sort of energy you bring
is far more exciting.
People are investing in you.
They're not investing in, like, a deck.
I've heard you talk about your mom a lot.
And you have how many siblings?
I have three sisters.
And where are they now?
- Vancouver. - They're in Vancouver?
And then one brother-- we're immigrants
from Somalia to Canada with my brother and my father.
And are you as close with your dad
as you were with your mom?
My mom was my anchor.
Yeah.
I'm not really connected to my dad that way.
And I spoke to a healer.
And she said because of my dad, the relationship I had with
my dad--if you don't have a close relationship
with your dad, you start dating people, you know,
that remind you--or like I dated a lot of guys,
every time they leave me-- besides I beat them up.
[laughs]
But before that, they say to me
like, how much they love me.
[laughter]
I've slapped every guy I've ever dated.
Ubah.
- In bed or in-- - No--
- An argument? - In public.
- Really? - In public.
[laughter]
Have you slapped Mr. Connecticut?
No, I can't.
Is there a possibility you're ever going to slap me?
No, I'm not. [laughter]
But here's the thing.
Andy, do you--
do you want to be slapped a little bit?
- No, I don't, actually. - Slapped around?
But good question. [laughter]
Well, talk of Ubah's love life
created a lot of conflict in the group.
So, Sai, why did you get so angry at Brynn
for asking Ubah about Mr. Connecticut
when you broke Ubah's trust yourself?
[tense music]
Coming up--
One of the reasons why I haven't been wanting
to be friends is I've just, like,
heard you calling me names--
I've never said anything.
A slut and a whore and like--
I've never said any of those things.
- Yeah, I've heard. - From who?
I will give you a thousand dollars, from Erin.
♪
So Sai, why did you get so angry at Brynn
for asking Ubah about Mr. Connecticut
when you broke Ubah's trust yourself?
That is a great question.
It is.
I think I'm a little bit harder on Brynn
because Brynn and I were very close.
And so I trusted you with the secret.
The secret that you shared on camera?
And I didn't share it on camera.
It was the Connecticut part.
She told me not to say anything about Connecticut.
That was the main thing. - OK.
That was the main part that she said, do not say anything.
It wasn't--
You did not want anyone to know
that he was in Connecticut?
You didn't mind if they knew that you--
- If I had--yeah. - Were dating someone?
I mind that also. Here is the thing.
I want to make this just between me and him,
and make sure that I like this person
before I parade him around people I love.
I definitely spilled the beans.
That was me. I apologized to Ubah.
Did you tell her that where he lived was a secret?
She shouldn't have repeated any of it.
It's--it's a state.
It's a United States. It's not--
It's not even that.
But you never told me to keep it--
you didn't say keep-- you told me the whole story.
And then you say I didn't keep this one
a state of residence private.
Had you told me that--
or keep it a secret, this is mission critical, of course,
I would have, guys, give me a break.
- To be fair-- - All this--no, no, excuse me.
I'll talk. You guys--
It's my fault. I take full accountability for it.
She trusted me with something.
I shouldn't have said it anywhere.
I shouldn't have said it to Erin.
I shouldn't have said it to us while we were eating.
It is my fault, and I think I was
so upset that I broke her trust, I took it out on you.
And I apologize. - Thank you.
I was really angry in the moment.
I also was drinking, and I wanted to [BLEEP] you up.
And I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry.
- That's OK. - I love you, Brynn.
And I apologize. I have not really spoken--
- [sobbing] It's been, like, - ing six months.
And I apologized to you guys profusely.
I was very, very angry.
So you have not spoken to Brynn since that night?
- Not really. - Wow.
Wow. All the photoshoots you've been doing
for the show and everything?
Yeah, but here's the thing.
And I appreciate that so much.
Like, but the thing is that you've also spent
the last six months going in press interviews continuing
this narrative, saying, Brynn can't be trusted.
Brynn broke the circle of truth.
Brynn is not a girl's girl. You've gone out of your way.
Or maybe they asked you every time about me.
I don't know.
But you, every single interview--but it's
kind of convenient that you're saying it now
when you literally, as of last week,
were still continuing the exact narrative
that you had for six months.
That's why we didn't talk.
Well, it's because we're finally hashing it out.
I see both sides.
It was implied that the conversation would stay.
But also--
I'm glad you're saying implied because in your interviews
you said, we sat there like-- we were all like, did, like,
you know, Sister Traveling Pants blood sisters.
And it's like, that wasn't the----ing case.
It wasn't.
After the costume shop, Sai and I
took Brynn out for her birthday.
We went to her favorite place, Casa Cipriani.
We were talking for a while.
And we made a decision, we all looked
at each other in the eye and said,
this is the circle of trust.
That's when Sai told us a little bit more
about Ubah's boyfriend, where he lived, what he does.
Sai and I aren't even, like, great right now.
But I do have to say that we did look at each other
and say, we're not going to expose--
Oh, no, we didn't.
We were just having a good time.
It was my birthday. - We were--
Brynn, we were--we were there.
It was us three. We were having a great time--
- What was the circle of trust? - We were just wondering.
I would love to know what this is.
It's where they talk about everyone.
[laughs] - But the other part--
the other part-- - That's what it is.
They----ing talk about everyone.
It's where you guys, like, talk about everyone.
- You don't do that? - Of course I do it.
And by the way, Erin, the reason this thing
is even brought up-- - It's my fault?
OK. Thank you for saying that.
I mean, how is it my fault?
Because you went to tell Sai, Ubah is so mad about David.
I didn't say she's so mad. Play the tapes back.
I didn't say she's so mad. - You said she's upset.
Yeah, because I thought you were.
She brought up how he said, like, why are you single?
And she was just saying how people shouldn't ask that.
Do you realize I was trying to do something, like--
- No, no, no. - Nice and kind?
No, because that doing something have got us here.
You are the seed. - My fault.
I'm curious what Jessel thinks about
the circle of trust, given how happy everyone was
to be talking about your business.
You know, I'm kind of speechless, honestly.
- As you should be. - About what?
About the fact that you guys talked about my marriage
in such a----ing disgusting way.
He was sexless, like, you brought--
I didn't talk about your marriage in a disgusting way.
You insinuated my husband was cheating on me.
I did not insinuate that.
Oh, you didn't?
Did you know her husband is going to Vietnam?
But the reason why he is going is because
he's trying to rack up his points.
That is bizarre.
When you start adding that to the pot with,
I haven't had sex in two years, he was my roommate,
that tied into Pavit going to Vietnam
for one night, it's strange.
- You watch the show, Erin? - I did.
Do you watch it with a----ing blindfold over your face?
- No, I didn't-- - OK.
I don't remember where-- what, with Vietnam?
The fact that you said my husband
doesn't wear a wedding ring-- - I never said that.
Did she say it?
You did relay that information to me,
and then I told her.
Yeah, but I didn't say it in a way
like, he's not wearing his ring.
The intention is completely different.
What was the intention?
To tell her that Abe doesn't really wear his ring,
so I wouldn't bring it up on camera.
That's how I said it to you.
Uh--
Why is that, like, so weird to you understand--
Because it was brought up to me on camera.
- But yeah, well-- - Yeah, then I should--
I wish you didn't do that, honestly.
You know how upset I am about the ring thing.
Out of all the sh-- that they said,
you're only upset that he didn't wear a piece of jewelry?
Why are you instigating, Brynn?
She can speak for herself.
You heard me. Read my lips.
Brynn flirts with Abe and, oh, my God, all hell breaks loose.
The double standard between me and Sai is unbelievable.
You're just looking at me. - I'm making my way down.
- You're looking at me. - No, I'm making my way down.
OK.
Before we move on, she's just apologized to you.
Yes.
Where do you two go from here?
You were very close. - We're fine.
Well, you're saying, we're fine.
What are you saying? - Yeah.
Honestly, one of the reasons why I haven't been
wanting to be friends is I've just, like, heard
you saying a lot of other stuff about
what I do for a living, where I get my money, calling me names--
I've never said anything.
A slut and a whore. And like--
I've never said any of those things.
- Yeah, I've heard. - From who?
I will give you a thousand dollars, from Erin.
I have never said any of those things about--
OK, if you didn't, then I won't--
I've never said anything.
And I own my sh-- at the end of the day.
If I called you a slut or you get your money from somewhere,
I would have said it.
I don't know what you do for a living, to be honest.
You do know what I do for a living
when we were friends the whole time.
I signed your contract on Aveeno Baby.
So I knew, yeah. - I'm sorry, back in 2017?
Yeah, and I've had six other jobs since then
because I actually-- I actually work a 9 to 5.
I don't talk about you, Brynn.
I don't think about you, so it's fine.
I have, like, a thousand friends. I'm good.
- OK. - Come on.
You guys, you cannot do this.
You have to fix this.
Fix what?
Just, you guys have to go back to be together.
We just started talking about 10 minutes ago.
I just apologized. It's fine.
Let's--let's give it some time.
[tense music]
Places, everybody, please.
OK, I'm ready. Let's start filming.
[laughter]
Can you imagine if I decide-- this is my baby.
Jenna, by the way, you really do have the best nipples.
Thank you. Thank you.
- Celebrate your wins. - I celebrate my wins.
- Celebrate those nipples. - Places, everybody.
Let's settle on in, please.
We are back with "The Real Housewives
of New York City, Season 14 Reunion."
Between her career, husband, and twin boys,
Jessel was about as busy as it gets,
except when it came to actually getting busy--
- [laughs] - That is.
Take a look.
Would you like to have a threesome
with me and my husband?
[disco music]
She's a----ing psycho apparently.
I've had a popsicle stuck up my--
- [gasps] - Jessel's a good girl.
But sometimes, Jessel say things, you're like--
Is Montessori the right decision for them?
The open house was very elevated.
They had a charcuterie board and wine.
But that's for the parents.
How did you meet your husband?
- Oh, we were roomies. - [laughs]
That is not normal. What are you doing?
What is wrong with you?
They're asking for boards and organizations.
Are you part of anything, except for, like,
the fried chicken committee?
It's a street food association of New York City.
My favorite moment in the entire show.
When's the last time you had sex?
Since I've had the kids.
- Huh? - It's like, err them.
- [laughs] - Like--[laughs]
What the hell is happening here?
We are in a rut. It's normal.
It's not a scandal.
If I didn't have sex for a year and a half,
I'd be in a mental institute.
Is this hooker-ish enough?
[laughs]
- We did the deed. - That's all?
It took me, like, 20 minutes to, like, loosen up.
I'm sorry.
I do not believe that her and Pavit had sex.
All right.
You really put it all out there--
- I did. - Which I appreciate.
- Thank you. - Thank you.
And the fans had a lot to say. - [laughs] Yes.
I want to start with the obvious, if you will.
How is your sex life?
I mean, much better.
Right, OK.
[laughs] I mean, we're still busy.
And we're still trying to obviously
find time for ourselves, but it's much better.
Um, did you regret saying that on the show?
- No. - Yeah?
It was just where I was in my life
at the moment and in time.
What have you learned about your relationship
watching it back on the show?
You know, you look at yourself on TV
and you certainly learn things about yourself--
the way you speak to each other.
We're very comfortable.
And I think that comes from being friends first.
And so I definitely can do things better.
And it's been a learning curve.
Ladies, Joanna from Oahu
wants to know if the wine at Jessel's showcase event
was as bad as Erin said.
- It was bad. - It was bad.
It was free as well.
Even-- [laughs]
I mean, it was free wine, all right?
It was sponsored.
Oh, so yours was sponsored, too?
Yeah, but I didn't put it on my invite.
[laughter] - I'm not as good--
my PR [indistinct].
Hers was also a business event
and not an anniversary party.
Whatever. So?
Glenda from Queens wants to know
the latest with baby number three.
Have you been able to convince Pavit?
No, I really have to work on him.
He's so--[laughs] he's so against it.
I think that we're, right now,
just trying to find our footing and there's a lot going on, so--
Have the kids started their $35,000-a-year school yet?
- They started this week. - Oh, wow.
How's it going? - It's going really well.
Any Suri Cruise sighting?
- We didn't go to that school. - Oh, OK.
- [laughs] - OK.
Is that a fair price for--
That's great-- that's for kindergarten.
It goes up and up and up as they get older.
Oh, my.
It's really crazy actually.
Jenny from Cleveland wants to know,
why has charcuterie board at the school's open house
impressed you?
Are you willing to pay top dollar for school
because it's more about connections
than it is about actual education?
I think it sets the tone for, like,
the level of attention that they pay, you know?
I mean, Pavit was very impressed.
He ate everything.
Heinz on Twitter said, Jessel,
how do you keep your sofas and furniture
so clean with two toddlers?
Serious question. Got this a lot.
Everyone wondered-- - They are so OCD.
Like, they don't like-- - The kids?
Yeah. They don't like dirty hands.
- What? - Yeah. They hate it.
- You're lucky, wow. - They hate it.
This is a good one.
Jill from Palm Beach said, what's your response
to people saying you moved to New York City
for the show but you still own a home in Dallas?
You calling Tribeca up and coming
made it sound like you don't really know New York.
Did you move for the show? - No.
I moved to New York for the opportunity, and--
For the opportunity of the show?
No, no, for the opportunity to be closer to my family,
for my work, and-- - Fashion, she loves fashion.
The show was a different opportunity.
How long have you lived in New York?
I lived in New York for almost a decade
before we moved to LA.
And then Pavit started a company in Dallas,
so it was a landing pad-- ae still have a home there.
OK.
And we moved back to New York.
How long have you been back?
Almost a year and a half now.
Moving to New York a year and a half ago,
that seems to be when we were casting the show.
Brynn, what are you thinking?
- [laughs] - I mean...
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't think that you mean for the show.
- Is the math not mathing? - [laughs]
I was trying--did you see I was trying to do the months?
I was like, a year and a half. And I was thinking,
when did we start filming and then casting?
I don't know.
Look, I mean, actually, though, even if let's say,
you did, I don't--
I personally don't think that you did.
I think maybe if it was something like
how I've had with career opportunities where it's like,
OK, there's this or I've moved for love,
and then there's other things that just make it
an add-on and make it better.
People move for work. Technically, this is a job.
But when the twins-- when the twins were born
in LA, I realized I needed to be closer to my parents.
And it was just like--
Why not move to London?
I mean, TBD.
- OK. - I just--
If we cast "The Real Housewives--"
[laughter]
I'll be there. Who knows?
Do a reboot there.
Pavit and I are very nomadic.
Sometimes people throw me softballs.
We're very nomadic. We love to move around.
Sai, when you heard that Pavit and Jessel
finally had sex during their staycation,
you said in your confessional that you didn't believe it.
Yes.
Do you still think she was lying?
You know what? It's none of my business.
I'm sorry.
I shouldn't comment on anyone's marriage but my own.
From the outside looking in,
it just doesn't feel like you have a connection.
But that is your relationship.
And I can't justify your relationship.
I'm sorry, that my husband and I don't have a connection?
Yeah, it-- it doesn't seem like
you guys have a connection at all.
But again, that's your relationship.
I shouldn't be commenting on it--
- You just did. - At all.
[laughter]
- FYI. - You're right.
I did, I did.
You sandwiched your bomb with two--
I did. I own it. I own it.
No one deserves to comment on my marriage,
and especially not in a negative way.
But--and also,
I was talking about postpartum.
You understand when you have babies,
when you have four years of IVF,
it's OK. - Totally.
It's OK to have these struggles.
It's fine. It's normal.
- I already said-- - You guys--no.
Let me talk. Let me talk. Let me talk.
Go for it. Go for it. You got the floor.
You implied my husband is cheating on me--
No, I did not.
Because I am not having sex with him.
- No, I did not. - Yes, you both did.
- No, I did not. - I never said that.
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♪
Next week, the dramatic conclusion
of "The Real Housewives of New York City Reunion."
Brynn, are you taking your boob out?
We start talking about Abe, Islam, sister wives, like, OK.
[laughs] - Hot.
But I've never done therapy until today.
[laughter]
I think Brynn's very straight.
[laughs]
It doesn't mean I'm not interested.
She got so drunk in front of our kids.
And David said she has to go.
[crying] Three months later, you die.
I feel like it's my fault. - [BLEEP].
No, no, no. We're two different people.
Watch your mouth, Ubah. I'm not afraid of you.
Everybody's afraid of you. - I'm not afraid.
I'm not----ing afraid of you.
You put people in the hospital?
Ooh.
I'm so tired of just-- nobody have my back.
[BLEEP] all of you.