1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:05,000 - I have about 40 vehicles. (laughs) 2 00:00:05,042 --> 00:00:08,750 - [Dorothy] Pistons, motors, engines. 3 00:00:08,875 --> 00:00:11,333 - Tim considers himself to be a collector. 4 00:00:11,375 --> 00:00:13,208 - You don't just throw everything out. 5 00:00:13,333 --> 00:00:16,500 - [Dorothy] This house is not a house, it's a garage. 6 00:00:16,583 --> 00:00:18,000 - This is a kitchen here. 7 00:00:18,083 --> 00:00:20,625 So where do you eat and where do you sleep? 8 00:00:20,708 --> 00:00:25,625 - [Debby] My sister would not allow me to go to her house. 9 00:00:26,833 --> 00:00:29,042 (sobs) Oh! 10 00:00:29,125 --> 00:00:30,833 - It's not all your fault. 11 00:00:30,875 --> 00:00:32,417 - What? What? All her fault? 12 00:00:32,542 --> 00:00:35,667 - We have to clean the place up or we're gonna go separate ways. 13 00:00:37,250 --> 00:00:38,958 - [Debby] I don't think Tim's gonna do well 14 00:00:39,042 --> 00:00:40,333 with letting things go. 15 00:00:40,417 --> 00:00:41,958 - You just want these gone for some reason. 16 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:43,000 I'm trying like hell. 17 00:00:43,042 --> 00:00:44,167 I'll tell you what, girl. 18 00:00:44,250 --> 00:00:45,625 - [DeeDee] You don't need any of this. 19 00:00:45,708 --> 00:00:47,333 - [Tim] Just let me handle it, I know what I'm doing. 20 00:00:48,167 --> 00:00:49,750 - Tim has no choice. 21 00:00:49,875 --> 00:00:51,292 Keep me or this junk. 22 00:00:52,542 --> 00:00:55,083 (dramatic music) 23 00:01:07,542 --> 00:01:09,708 (suspenseful music) 24 00:01:23,875 --> 00:01:26,792 (bluesy rock music) 25 00:01:38,250 --> 00:01:40,583 - I'm Tim and I love to work on cars. 26 00:01:41,750 --> 00:01:44,417 (bluesy rock music) 27 00:01:47,583 --> 00:01:51,083 I have approximately 10 and three quarter acres. 28 00:01:52,250 --> 00:01:56,000 I have about 40 vehicles. (laughs) 29 00:01:56,125 --> 00:01:58,708 I have a 20 foot boat called Misbehaving. 30 00:01:58,792 --> 00:02:01,167 A few motorcycles, you name it. 31 00:02:01,292 --> 00:02:04,208 Car parts, motorcycle parts, hot rod stuff. 32 00:02:04,292 --> 00:02:07,167 That big trailer is an old Atlas van line. 33 00:02:08,458 --> 00:02:11,208 My house is approximately 3,000 square feet. 34 00:02:13,208 --> 00:02:18,083 Inside my house is small engines, carburetors, 35 00:02:19,250 --> 00:02:22,083 specialty stuff, a ton of tools. 36 00:02:23,042 --> 00:02:24,875 Do I consider myself a hoarder? 37 00:02:26,875 --> 00:02:28,333 Yes, but no. (laughs) 38 00:02:28,458 --> 00:02:30,458 I'm so, I don't want to admit it, but yeah, I guess I am. 39 00:02:30,542 --> 00:02:32,792 And I never even thought about it, really. 40 00:02:32,792 --> 00:02:35,333 (bluesy rock music) 41 00:02:38,458 --> 00:02:40,250 - I'm DeeDee, I'm Tim's wife. 42 00:02:41,667 --> 00:02:45,667 Tim considers himself to be a collector of things. 43 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:49,333 And what is junk to me is not junk to him. 44 00:02:49,417 --> 00:02:53,333 And he can find the use for just about anything. 45 00:02:53,417 --> 00:02:58,333 Tim will see a rundown vehicle on the side of the road 46 00:03:00,375 --> 00:03:03,125 and meet any stranger and bargain with him, 47 00:03:03,208 --> 00:03:05,083 "Hey, I can fix that up." 48 00:03:05,167 --> 00:03:06,375 - Needs some love. 49 00:03:06,458 --> 00:03:07,917 - Before I know it, 50 00:03:08,042 --> 00:03:11,083 there are more and more and more vehicles on our property 51 00:03:11,167 --> 00:03:13,667 that he might say, "I bought that a year ago, 52 00:03:13,708 --> 00:03:16,167 but I'm just now getting it to the house." 53 00:03:17,375 --> 00:03:19,000 He has good intentions. 54 00:03:19,042 --> 00:03:20,625 He's a real good handyman. 55 00:03:20,708 --> 00:03:23,917 He can fix anything, but he took on too much. 56 00:03:25,250 --> 00:03:26,583 Just way too much. 57 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:31,375 - I'm overwhelmed by all of it, 58 00:03:32,375 --> 00:03:35,333 I try to play catch up constantly and it's, 59 00:03:35,417 --> 00:03:38,458 there's a lot more than I can handle now. 60 00:03:43,042 --> 00:03:45,125 - Tim and I have been married, 61 00:03:45,208 --> 00:03:49,375 I think, 31 years, a long time. (laughs) 62 00:03:50,708 --> 00:03:53,333 (gentle piano music) 63 00:03:55,417 --> 00:03:59,875 We had lake property and this cute lake house. 64 00:03:59,958 --> 00:04:02,292 And one day I was at work 65 00:04:02,375 --> 00:04:04,542 and the realtor that sold it to us said, 66 00:04:04,542 --> 00:04:07,500 "I hate to tell you, but your house burned down." 67 00:04:07,542 --> 00:04:09,542 And you just can't do anything about it. 68 00:04:09,625 --> 00:04:12,083 They have no idea what happened or how it started. 69 00:04:12,208 --> 00:04:14,750 I didn't want to rebuild at that location 70 00:04:14,833 --> 00:04:18,208 because it just brought back bad memories. 71 00:04:18,208 --> 00:04:21,667 So we bought 10 acres and built a house. 72 00:04:21,792 --> 00:04:24,333 - [Tim] Got it done right at the end of 1995. 73 00:04:24,375 --> 00:04:28,167 Bought and paid for and it's all been there ever since. 74 00:04:28,250 --> 00:04:31,167 - It was a beautiful home at one time, it was. 75 00:04:31,250 --> 00:04:33,750 It was something I was very proud of. 76 00:04:37,833 --> 00:04:39,958 (pensive music) 77 00:04:40,042 --> 00:04:44,333 - That's when I sold my shop, eight miles away on the highway. 78 00:04:44,417 --> 00:04:45,875 This is my old shop 79 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,667 and there's one of my old signs on the side of the building. 80 00:04:48,750 --> 00:04:51,083 The majority of the cars on my property is, 81 00:04:51,167 --> 00:04:52,292 they came from here. 82 00:04:52,375 --> 00:04:54,333 This is my paint room. 83 00:04:54,417 --> 00:04:57,833 And I had my tools and all my machine stuff right here. 84 00:04:57,958 --> 00:04:59,333 I got rid of this 85 00:04:59,375 --> 00:05:02,292 because I was getting ripped off every time I'd leave. 86 00:05:02,375 --> 00:05:03,333 It was crazy. 87 00:05:03,417 --> 00:05:05,458 And it's like, this is insane. 88 00:05:05,542 --> 00:05:09,625 I'm losing little by little, I'm losing everything I got. 89 00:05:09,708 --> 00:05:12,833 And I had 12 years there on that location. 90 00:05:12,917 --> 00:05:16,167 So I had a lot of vehicles, a lot of parts. 91 00:05:16,208 --> 00:05:17,833 All the inventory went to the house. 92 00:05:18,875 --> 00:05:20,958 And so now it looks like I've got a junkyard at my house. 93 00:05:21,042 --> 00:05:23,500 But a lot of that was what I had here, you know? 94 00:05:24,958 --> 00:05:29,833 - It took several months for him to clean everything out 95 00:05:29,875 --> 00:05:33,375 and gradually bring it to the house. 96 00:05:34,875 --> 00:05:36,958 (tense music) 97 00:05:40,583 --> 00:05:42,500 - She asked me one day, she said, 98 00:05:42,542 --> 00:05:44,333 "Do you mind if I stay at our other house?" 99 00:05:44,417 --> 00:05:48,000 Her mother had passed and we got a big house in Tyler, 100 00:05:48,083 --> 00:05:51,750 which is 30 miles to the east and where she was gonna work, 101 00:05:51,875 --> 00:05:54,167 it's 40 miles further east from there. 102 00:05:54,250 --> 00:05:55,833 She said, "What I want to do is stay there 103 00:05:55,917 --> 00:05:57,583 instead of coming all the way back over here 104 00:05:57,667 --> 00:05:59,083 at no telling what time, 105 00:05:59,208 --> 00:06:02,042 just to go touch base with you and then get right back up." 106 00:06:02,125 --> 00:06:03,667 And I said, "Sure, of course. 107 00:06:03,708 --> 00:06:05,708 You just call me and let me know you're all right." 108 00:06:06,875 --> 00:06:09,458 (somber music) 109 00:06:14,083 --> 00:06:19,667 I noticed that I was getting depressed because I'm alone. 110 00:06:19,750 --> 00:06:22,958 So I started doing the work inside the house. 111 00:06:24,625 --> 00:06:25,833 Oh gosh. 112 00:06:25,917 --> 00:06:28,292 Because I didn't have a building anymore. 113 00:06:28,375 --> 00:06:29,917 And that was, it looks good on paper, 114 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,208 you know, work in this room and sleep in there, 115 00:06:32,292 --> 00:06:33,792 but it doesn't work in real world 116 00:06:33,875 --> 00:06:36,250 because she would come home and just, 117 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:37,792 "What in the world are you doing?" 118 00:06:37,875 --> 00:06:39,833 Well, I'm just rebuilding this engine right here in the den 119 00:06:39,917 --> 00:06:42,875 and I'm watching a football game or whatever. (laughs) 120 00:06:42,958 --> 00:06:46,042 And the farther it went on, the more it pushed her away. 121 00:06:47,917 --> 00:06:50,750 - Every time I come to the house, there's more and more. 122 00:06:50,833 --> 00:06:52,500 And he goes, "No, there isn't." 123 00:06:52,583 --> 00:06:55,833 And I said, "There's more than the last time I was here." 124 00:06:55,917 --> 00:06:59,333 We were fighting every time I went out there, 125 00:06:59,375 --> 00:07:00,667 it was a fight. 126 00:07:00,750 --> 00:07:04,042 So we were at a bad place, we really were. 127 00:07:04,125 --> 00:07:04,875 It was bad. 128 00:07:06,875 --> 00:07:09,458 (tense music) 129 00:07:14,458 --> 00:07:15,875 - If I don't clean up, 130 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,625 my wife is definitely going to the ol', 131 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:24,500 I'm just gonna get a lawyer and get a divorce. 132 00:07:24,583 --> 00:07:26,458 I'm kind of scared of that. 133 00:07:26,542 --> 00:07:27,625 I love her and everything, 134 00:07:27,708 --> 00:07:29,917 but something has to absolutely change. 135 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,417 And no going back. 136 00:07:32,542 --> 00:07:34,000 - I told Tim, I said, 137 00:07:34,042 --> 00:07:37,542 you can either decide to get rid of all this trash 138 00:07:37,625 --> 00:07:39,625 and we can have a marriage again, 139 00:07:39,708 --> 00:07:41,750 or you're going to keep all this here. 140 00:07:41,875 --> 00:07:47,417 And then this is not a marriage, that I have to live far away 141 00:07:47,542 --> 00:07:50,417 and come here for like 20 minutes out of a weekend 142 00:07:50,500 --> 00:07:51,708 and then leave again. 143 00:07:51,792 --> 00:07:52,875 When you live apart like that 144 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,292 and you don't have any connection, 145 00:07:55,375 --> 00:07:57,500 why not just be by myself? 146 00:07:59,917 --> 00:08:02,125 - I'm Donna, I'm DeeDee's younger sister. 147 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:05,625 Years ago when I last saw the property, 148 00:08:05,708 --> 00:08:07,000 the house looked very nice. 149 00:08:07,083 --> 00:08:10,208 I never knew the extent of what was going on 150 00:08:10,333 --> 00:08:16,000 with the property and with Tim and DeeDee until recently, 151 00:08:16,042 --> 00:08:19,458 she finally opened up to let us know 152 00:08:19,542 --> 00:08:21,208 that it was pretty severe. 153 00:08:21,292 --> 00:08:22,500 And even at this moment, 154 00:08:22,542 --> 00:08:24,125 I still don't know how severe it is. 155 00:08:26,375 --> 00:08:28,708 - I'm Debby, I'm DeeDee's older sister. 156 00:08:30,125 --> 00:08:34,042 My sister DeeDee would not allow me to go to her house. 157 00:08:34,125 --> 00:08:37,792 - I just kept it to myself for the biggest part of the time 158 00:08:37,875 --> 00:08:39,792 because it was so disturbing 159 00:08:39,875 --> 00:08:44,792 that I could ever let myself get in this situation. 160 00:08:44,792 --> 00:08:47,042 And then I finally started talking about it 161 00:08:47,125 --> 00:08:49,708 on occasion because it's getting outta hand. 162 00:08:51,042 --> 00:08:54,750 - When she finally let us know that there was a problem, 163 00:08:54,833 --> 00:08:56,667 my sister Donna and I would tell her, 164 00:08:56,708 --> 00:08:59,208 "Well, we can come out and help you clean up." 165 00:08:59,333 --> 00:09:00,500 And she would say, 166 00:09:00,542 --> 00:09:03,333 "No, I won't let you come to the house." 167 00:09:03,417 --> 00:09:05,667 - It makes me extremely sad 168 00:09:05,708 --> 00:09:10,583 because I've watched my sister struggle 169 00:09:11,667 --> 00:09:16,000 and it makes me angry and sad at the same time. 170 00:09:17,792 --> 00:09:21,833 And it's hurtful for me to see DeeDee 171 00:09:21,917 --> 00:09:25,542 not even feel comfortable to go to her own home. 172 00:09:27,708 --> 00:09:30,250 - My relationship with Donna and Debby has been, 173 00:09:32,167 --> 00:09:36,833 it's really been sketchy because I know they're protective. 174 00:09:36,875 --> 00:09:38,958 Of course they are, they love their sister. 175 00:09:39,042 --> 00:09:41,625 Naturally they're gonna defend their sister, period. 176 00:09:41,708 --> 00:09:44,083 You know, I'm the bad guy 'cause it's your fault. 177 00:09:45,667 --> 00:09:48,875 - I'm very upset with Tim about what he's done to her. 178 00:09:48,958 --> 00:09:53,125 I feel like if he really loved her and cared about her 179 00:09:53,208 --> 00:09:54,958 and wanted her there, 180 00:09:55,042 --> 00:09:57,375 then he would've put every effort he had 181 00:09:57,458 --> 00:09:59,167 to getting it cleaned up. 182 00:10:00,708 --> 00:10:02,167 - It's very frustrating to me 183 00:10:02,208 --> 00:10:06,042 because my sister DeeDee worked really hard 184 00:10:06,125 --> 00:10:09,500 to change the situation and it was the same old story. 185 00:10:09,583 --> 00:10:11,167 Well, I went out and tried to help, 186 00:10:11,292 --> 00:10:14,042 but Tim wouldn't let me throw anything out. 187 00:10:14,125 --> 00:10:15,167 So here we go again. 188 00:10:15,208 --> 00:10:17,250 And that just went on for years and years. 189 00:10:18,625 --> 00:10:21,917 - My relationship with DeeDee is very close. 190 00:10:22,042 --> 00:10:25,958 We are always there to support each other. 191 00:10:26,042 --> 00:10:29,583 And that's the reason I'm here is because of DeeDee. 192 00:10:29,667 --> 00:10:32,833 And I'm hoping Tim doesn't do this again. 193 00:10:34,125 --> 00:10:36,250 (tense music) 194 00:10:40,375 --> 00:10:42,167 - The fire marshal explained to me 195 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:44,750 the law according to the state of Texas, 196 00:10:44,875 --> 00:10:48,792 and I concurred with him about unsightly things and he said, 197 00:10:48,875 --> 00:10:51,875 "Well, if you don't get it done by a certain time," 198 00:10:51,958 --> 00:10:53,375 like, he gave me three weeks 199 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:57,167 to make a noticeable change, then I would get a citation. 200 00:10:58,708 --> 00:11:01,667 And those are pretty hefty, up to $5,000. 201 00:11:01,750 --> 00:11:04,458 Yeah, per citation. I'm like, what? 202 00:11:04,458 --> 00:11:06,042 (dramatic music) 203 00:11:06,125 --> 00:11:07,917 - I told Tim, I'm not paying for anything. 204 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,208 And I kept telling him, why can't you sell things? 205 00:11:10,292 --> 00:11:11,750 And if that's what it takes, 206 00:11:11,875 --> 00:11:13,208 you'll have to sell everything 207 00:11:13,375 --> 00:11:15,750 and pay for the fines 'cause I'm not paying for anything. 208 00:11:17,958 --> 00:11:21,917 - I think this is his last chance with my sister. 209 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,625 She has stood by him through all of this. 210 00:11:26,792 --> 00:11:29,000 And I don't know what else she can do. 211 00:11:30,542 --> 00:11:32,000 With the effort that's being made 212 00:11:32,083 --> 00:11:34,083 by everyone here to clean up 213 00:11:34,167 --> 00:11:37,167 and if he is not willing to do that, 214 00:11:37,292 --> 00:11:39,167 then there's nothing left. 215 00:11:41,542 --> 00:11:44,833 - I don't think Tim's gonna do well with letting things go. 216 00:11:44,917 --> 00:11:49,917 I don't think that he has mentally accepted the issues 217 00:11:50,042 --> 00:11:52,500 to the point where he knows he needs help. 218 00:11:52,583 --> 00:11:54,667 I think it is his protection, 219 00:11:54,750 --> 00:11:58,250 his possessions are what makes him 220 00:11:58,333 --> 00:12:01,792 and his fear of losing and disconnecting 221 00:12:01,875 --> 00:12:03,917 from those things that make him feel safe, 222 00:12:04,042 --> 00:12:06,167 I think are gonna be very difficult for him. 223 00:12:07,125 --> 00:12:12,625 - Tim has no choice but to let things go 224 00:12:12,708 --> 00:12:14,958 because I'm at my wit's end. 225 00:12:15,042 --> 00:12:16,750 I literally want to go in there and say, 226 00:12:16,750 --> 00:12:18,542 let's put it in bags, we don't need this. 227 00:12:18,625 --> 00:12:19,875 And I'm at that point 228 00:12:19,958 --> 00:12:22,375 to just start chucking it in the trash. 229 00:12:22,458 --> 00:12:23,875 And yes, he will get mad. 230 00:12:23,958 --> 00:12:25,417 I don't care anymore. 231 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:26,917 Something's gonna happen 232 00:12:27,042 --> 00:12:30,333 or else you decide if you're going to keep me or this junk. 233 00:12:31,542 --> 00:12:32,292 (dramatic music) 234 00:12:36,250 --> 00:12:38,375 (light country music) 235 00:12:43,333 --> 00:12:44,708 - I do love Tim. 236 00:12:44,833 --> 00:12:46,625 He's one wonderful guy 237 00:12:46,708 --> 00:12:49,958 and he has good intentions and a good heart. 238 00:12:50,042 --> 00:12:54,000 But this was the main barrier that was separating us. 239 00:12:54,083 --> 00:12:56,208 And I thought, something has to give. 240 00:13:00,917 --> 00:13:02,667 Either you're going to agree 241 00:13:02,708 --> 00:13:04,292 that we have to clean the place up 242 00:13:05,542 --> 00:13:07,125 or we're gonna go separate ways. 243 00:13:10,792 --> 00:13:13,208 (light country music) 244 00:13:23,875 --> 00:13:25,417 (knocking on door) 245 00:13:26,958 --> 00:13:29,000 - Hi Tim, I'm Dr. Tolin. 246 00:13:29,042 --> 00:13:31,208 - Nice to meet you, Dr. Tolin. - Nice to meet you. 247 00:13:31,292 --> 00:13:32,375 I'm Dr. David Tolin. 248 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:34,833 I'm a clinical psychologist and I specialize 249 00:13:34,875 --> 00:13:37,375 in the study and treatment of hoarding disorder. 250 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:38,875 May I come in? - You sure may. 251 00:13:38,958 --> 00:13:40,000 - Excellent. - Come on in. 252 00:13:40,083 --> 00:13:41,292 - Thanks for having me in. 253 00:13:41,417 --> 00:13:42,375 - Careful where you walk. 254 00:13:42,500 --> 00:13:43,792 - I will, yeah. 255 00:13:43,875 --> 00:13:46,167 (tense music) 256 00:13:49,125 --> 00:13:50,667 So let me just ask a little bit 257 00:13:50,750 --> 00:13:52,417 about this area that we're looking at here. 258 00:13:52,542 --> 00:13:54,292 So this is a kitchen here. 259 00:13:55,833 --> 00:13:57,000 Obviously, it looks like 260 00:13:57,125 --> 00:13:59,417 it would be hard to prepare food here. 261 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:00,417 - Correct. 262 00:14:00,417 --> 00:14:01,750 - So where do you eat? 263 00:14:01,833 --> 00:14:04,958 - It's gotten to where I just go to the store or to Love's 264 00:14:05,042 --> 00:14:07,625 and go to Carl's Jr. or whatever and get something to eat. 265 00:14:07,708 --> 00:14:09,500 And that's about it. 266 00:14:09,583 --> 00:14:10,708 - You happy with it that way? 267 00:14:10,792 --> 00:14:11,792 - Oh, no. 268 00:14:11,875 --> 00:14:12,917 - And where do you sleep? 269 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,042 - Right there. 270 00:14:14,125 --> 00:14:15,042 - Where? On this couch here? 271 00:14:15,125 --> 00:14:16,333 - Right there on that couch. 272 00:14:16,458 --> 00:14:17,833 - Okay. 273 00:14:17,917 --> 00:14:19,250 This is a kind of unique situation. 274 00:14:19,333 --> 00:14:21,667 It's not garbage that he's saving up, 275 00:14:21,792 --> 00:14:23,042 but rather it's car parts. 276 00:14:23,208 --> 00:14:26,375 And he has basically turned his home 277 00:14:26,458 --> 00:14:28,292 into an auto repair shop. 278 00:14:28,375 --> 00:14:30,667 I'm just kind of curious as I look around, 279 00:14:30,667 --> 00:14:32,333 can you tell me what happened here? 280 00:14:35,250 --> 00:14:38,417 - I had to move a lot of stuff from my shop here 281 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:42,542 and my wife moved to our other house in Tyler. 282 00:14:42,625 --> 00:14:44,083 - So DeeDee moved out? 283 00:14:44,208 --> 00:14:46,542 - Well, she has to move to our other house 284 00:14:46,625 --> 00:14:48,833 because she had a job in Rusk. 285 00:14:48,875 --> 00:14:50,708 - Is it stopping her from moving back in? 286 00:14:50,792 --> 00:14:51,958 - Yes. 287 00:14:52,042 --> 00:14:54,333 (suspenseful music) 288 00:14:56,208 --> 00:14:57,875 Her version of getting things cleaned up 289 00:14:57,958 --> 00:14:59,542 was getting rid of everything. 290 00:14:59,625 --> 00:15:00,833 - That's what she wants? 291 00:15:00,875 --> 00:15:01,750 - That's what she told me. 292 00:15:01,833 --> 00:15:03,000 - She wants it all gone. 293 00:15:03,042 --> 00:15:05,042 - Gone and it's all junk. - Yeah. 294 00:15:05,125 --> 00:15:09,583 - And of course that made me feel about that tall to her. 295 00:15:09,667 --> 00:15:10,750 - You didn't like that? 296 00:15:10,833 --> 00:15:12,958 - No, it was, I took it personally 297 00:15:13,042 --> 00:15:15,750 because everything I have is junk 298 00:15:15,833 --> 00:15:18,292 and she wanted to get rid of it. 299 00:15:18,375 --> 00:15:21,000 To me, that was like telling me that you don't matter. 300 00:15:21,125 --> 00:15:22,833 - It's like saying you're junk. 301 00:15:22,917 --> 00:15:24,583 - Kind of, yeah, in a way. 302 00:15:24,667 --> 00:15:26,208 And I got depressed and I said, 303 00:15:26,208 --> 00:15:28,167 well, if that's all I mean to her, 304 00:15:28,208 --> 00:15:31,208 then I don't matter to her anyway. 305 00:15:31,292 --> 00:15:33,417 - So this really caused a split between you and DeeDee. 306 00:15:33,542 --> 00:15:35,042 - Yeah, this was a big dividing spot. 307 00:15:35,125 --> 00:15:36,792 - It sounds like. - Absolutely, yeah. 308 00:15:36,875 --> 00:15:39,375 - It seems in many ways that Tim 309 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:43,375 is trying to compensate for feeling rejected. 310 00:15:43,458 --> 00:15:46,167 When he feels rejected by other people, 311 00:15:46,292 --> 00:15:49,792 he deals with that by acquiring things and hoarding. 312 00:15:49,875 --> 00:15:51,167 But of course the more he hoards, 313 00:15:51,250 --> 00:15:52,875 the more he pushes people away. 314 00:15:52,958 --> 00:15:55,125 So it becomes a vicious cycle. 315 00:15:55,208 --> 00:15:58,000 And Tim strikes me as very stuck in that cycle. 316 00:15:59,167 --> 00:16:01,208 If we don't change the things that are in this house, 317 00:16:01,292 --> 00:16:03,000 what's gonna happen to you and DeeDee? 318 00:16:03,042 --> 00:16:04,667 - It would stay the same or get worse. 319 00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:06,000 - Stay the same, or get worse? 320 00:16:06,083 --> 00:16:08,333 What would worse involve, split? 321 00:16:08,417 --> 00:16:09,333 - Absolutely. 322 00:16:09,417 --> 00:16:11,208 - I want you to kind of remember that. 323 00:16:11,208 --> 00:16:13,125 And the reason that I want you to remember this conversation 324 00:16:13,208 --> 00:16:15,542 is that as we go through this process, 325 00:16:15,625 --> 00:16:18,333 there's gonna be a point at which you want to push back. 326 00:16:18,375 --> 00:16:21,042 You're gonna say, no, no, no, I gotta keep all this stuff. 327 00:16:21,125 --> 00:16:24,167 And when that moment comes, 328 00:16:24,208 --> 00:16:26,042 I want you to remember this conversation 329 00:16:26,125 --> 00:16:27,375 that we're having right now. 330 00:16:27,458 --> 00:16:30,000 I want you to remember what's really important. 331 00:16:30,042 --> 00:16:31,958 It's not necessarily all the stuff. 332 00:16:32,042 --> 00:16:34,042 - No. - It's the marriage. 333 00:16:34,125 --> 00:16:35,292 It's your quality of life. 334 00:16:35,375 --> 00:16:36,708 - Sure. - And that's what's at stake. 335 00:16:36,833 --> 00:16:38,833 And that's the stuff that we're really shooting for here. 336 00:16:38,917 --> 00:16:39,792 - Great. 337 00:16:39,875 --> 00:16:41,167 - And with that, you know, 338 00:16:41,208 --> 00:16:44,167 I wonder 'cause I know that DeeDee is outside 339 00:16:45,542 --> 00:16:47,875 along with Dorothy, our organizer. 340 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,500 And I wonder if maybe we should go out 341 00:16:49,583 --> 00:16:50,917 and have you meet Dorothy 342 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,917 and I can meet DeeDee 343 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,750 and we can talk this through a little bit more. 344 00:16:54,833 --> 00:16:55,833 Would that be all right? 345 00:16:55,917 --> 00:16:57,000 - That'd be fine. - All right. 346 00:16:57,083 --> 00:16:59,125 Why don't you lead the way? - All right. 347 00:17:00,292 --> 00:17:02,667 (bluesy guitar music) 348 00:17:05,917 --> 00:17:08,542 - [Dr. Tolin] All right, hello. 349 00:17:08,625 --> 00:17:09,875 - [Dorothy] Dr. T. 350 00:17:09,875 --> 00:17:11,667 - Dorothy, the organizer. How you doing? 351 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:12,875 - I'm so good. 352 00:17:12,958 --> 00:17:14,333 I'm Dorothy Breininger. 353 00:17:14,375 --> 00:17:16,375 I'm a professional organizing expert 354 00:17:16,458 --> 00:17:18,333 and I specialize in hoarding. 355 00:17:18,417 --> 00:17:19,958 - So Dorothy, I have someone I'd like you to meet. 356 00:17:20,042 --> 00:17:21,333 This is Tim. 357 00:17:21,417 --> 00:17:22,000 This is Dorothy. 358 00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:23,000 - I'm coming over. 359 00:17:23,083 --> 00:17:24,417 Get- Hi. 360 00:17:24,417 --> 00:17:26,083 So good to meet you. - [Tim] Good to meet you. 361 00:17:26,167 --> 00:17:27,333 - So good to meet you. 362 00:17:27,458 --> 00:17:29,042 I don't know if you've met, but this is DeeDee. 363 00:17:29,167 --> 00:17:30,417 - Hi DeeDee, Dave Tolin. How are you? 364 00:17:30,542 --> 00:17:31,333 - Dr. Tolin. 365 00:17:31,417 --> 00:17:32,917 - It's nice to meet you. - You too. 366 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,583 Hi, Tim. 367 00:17:34,667 --> 00:17:37,000 (tense bluesy music) 368 00:17:37,083 --> 00:17:38,375 - So Dorothy, I know you've had a chance 369 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:40,000 to look at the house and the property 370 00:17:40,083 --> 00:17:41,667 and I've had a chance to look around as well 371 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:42,958 and talk to Tim. 372 00:17:43,042 --> 00:17:45,333 - This is a logistical nightmare 373 00:17:45,417 --> 00:17:48,125 because I've got so many different people coming in. 374 00:17:48,208 --> 00:17:50,333 I need to have a forklift. 375 00:17:50,417 --> 00:17:53,167 I need to have scrap metal guys come in. 376 00:17:53,250 --> 00:17:55,625 I've got someone coming in who needs to do towing. 377 00:17:55,708 --> 00:17:58,167 (dramatic music) 378 00:17:59,250 --> 00:18:00,500 But that's not it. 379 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:02,833 I've got a master tow truck coming in 380 00:18:02,917 --> 00:18:04,792 to move that semi-trailer. 381 00:18:05,833 --> 00:18:07,375 And inside the house, 382 00:18:07,375 --> 00:18:15,167 is all full of cylinders, pistons, motors, engines. 383 00:18:15,250 --> 00:18:18,417 This house is not a house, it's a garage. 384 00:18:27,375 --> 00:18:30,333 - He and I both never had this house like this. 385 00:18:30,458 --> 00:18:31,833 And I don't know what happened, 386 00:18:31,958 --> 00:18:36,583 but it got progressively worse and I can't live this way. 387 00:18:38,292 --> 00:18:40,500 He just kept accumulating more and more. 388 00:18:40,542 --> 00:18:44,000 And I said, I don't even have a place to sit down, 389 00:18:44,042 --> 00:18:45,375 cook, anything. 390 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:47,000 And I said, 391 00:18:47,125 --> 00:18:51,500 so either you have to get rid of all this or me. 392 00:18:53,333 --> 00:18:55,750 The more I was gone, the more he collected. 393 00:18:55,875 --> 00:18:59,333 And you know, we'll get to the underlying reasons for that, 394 00:18:59,417 --> 00:19:01,417 which I might be partially to blame. 395 00:19:04,083 --> 00:19:05,333 - DeeDee, you said something very interesting. 396 00:19:05,417 --> 00:19:07,000 You said you might be partially to blame. 397 00:19:07,042 --> 00:19:08,750 Could you say a little bit more about that? 398 00:19:08,875 --> 00:19:10,625 What makes you think that? 399 00:19:10,708 --> 00:19:15,833 - I did not come around very often to check on him. 400 00:19:15,833 --> 00:19:17,833 - Why do you suppose that is? 401 00:19:17,917 --> 00:19:19,667 - I think I was put out by him. 402 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:21,083 - Put out? 403 00:19:21,167 --> 00:19:23,083 - That he cared more about accumulating things 404 00:19:23,167 --> 00:19:24,542 than being with me. 405 00:19:24,625 --> 00:19:26,667 - So the more the stuff accumulates, 406 00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:28,542 the more the two of you are split apart 407 00:19:28,625 --> 00:19:30,292 and the more the two of you are split apart, 408 00:19:30,292 --> 00:19:31,750 the more stuff accumulates. 409 00:19:31,875 --> 00:19:34,792 Have the two of you ever talked about splitting up? 410 00:19:34,875 --> 00:19:35,917 - Yeah. 411 00:19:37,042 --> 00:19:38,125 - Tell me about that. 412 00:19:38,208 --> 00:19:39,625 - I feel bad, but I told Tim, 413 00:19:39,708 --> 00:19:41,083 you just need to make your mind up 414 00:19:41,208 --> 00:19:45,958 if you want to keep all this or keep me. 415 00:19:46,042 --> 00:19:49,583 - With regard to kind of the tension between the two of you, 416 00:19:49,708 --> 00:19:54,000 what came first, the hoarding or the conflict? 417 00:19:54,083 --> 00:19:55,375 - How far back? 418 00:19:55,458 --> 00:19:56,875 - As far back as it goes. 419 00:19:56,958 --> 00:19:59,417 I mean, at what point did you two start butting heads? 420 00:20:01,208 --> 00:20:03,292 - Oh, I don't know. 421 00:20:03,375 --> 00:20:04,792 What do you think? 422 00:20:04,875 --> 00:20:06,167 A while back. 423 00:20:06,208 --> 00:20:07,500 - You know, I get a sense 424 00:20:07,542 --> 00:20:09,500 that there's a real rift in this relationship 425 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:12,292 and it may not just be all about the hoarding, 426 00:20:12,375 --> 00:20:13,875 but ultimately, of course, 427 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,417 the hoarding is the big barrier to making this marriage heal. 428 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:20,083 So Dorothy is our stuff master. 429 00:20:20,208 --> 00:20:23,208 She knows all about stuff and what to do with it 430 00:20:23,292 --> 00:20:24,917 and where to put it and how to organize it. 431 00:20:25,042 --> 00:20:27,250 - Yay, let me at it! (laughs) 432 00:20:27,333 --> 00:20:29,250 - I really want to hear what you have in mind, Dorothy. 433 00:20:29,333 --> 00:20:31,375 - Thank you, thank you. Well, you know, 434 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:34,458 I can see you're solving a crisis on the one hand, 435 00:20:34,542 --> 00:20:36,708 which is, you know, saving the marriage. 436 00:20:36,708 --> 00:20:40,083 And then on my side it's like, we've got a crisis too. 437 00:20:40,167 --> 00:20:42,458 We've got a fire marshal who says, 438 00:20:42,542 --> 00:20:46,083 "Whoa, this property, it's not working." 439 00:20:46,208 --> 00:20:47,833 You know, you're gonna get cited, 440 00:20:47,875 --> 00:20:49,417 you know, it's not good. 441 00:20:49,417 --> 00:20:51,375 So I need to solve that. 442 00:20:51,458 --> 00:20:53,500 Then we wanna work on the inside 443 00:20:53,542 --> 00:20:55,333 because if you want to come back. 444 00:20:55,458 --> 00:20:56,792 - Yeah. - What do we do? 445 00:20:56,875 --> 00:21:01,500 Bottom line, I'm making a house for a couple here. 446 00:21:01,542 --> 00:21:03,083 - Yeah. - Not for a single man. 447 00:21:03,083 --> 00:21:04,667 - [DeeDee] Right. 448 00:21:04,708 --> 00:21:06,458 - And I guess one question that I have is, you know, I mean, 449 00:21:06,542 --> 00:21:07,833 we're gonna be obviously going to work 450 00:21:07,875 --> 00:21:10,792 and Dorothy's got her plan and I'm kind of wondering, 451 00:21:10,875 --> 00:21:13,167 can we heal this marriage? 452 00:21:13,250 --> 00:21:14,958 (dramatic music) 453 00:21:18,958 --> 00:21:21,500 (light country music) 454 00:21:51,875 --> 00:21:54,000 - [DeeDee] Hi, Dr. Tolin. - Nice to see you again. 455 00:21:54,083 --> 00:21:55,167 - [DeeDee] Nice to see you. 456 00:21:55,250 --> 00:21:56,583 - And who did you bring with you today? 457 00:21:56,667 --> 00:21:58,375 - I brought Donna and Debby. - Hi Donna, how are you? 458 00:21:58,458 --> 00:21:59,708 Dr. Tolin. - [DeeDee] My sisters. 459 00:21:59,792 --> 00:22:01,167 - Good, nice to meet you. - Hello, hi. 460 00:22:01,292 --> 00:22:02,167 - And Debby, is that right? 461 00:22:02,208 --> 00:22:03,750 - Yes. - Very nice to meet you. 462 00:22:03,875 --> 00:22:04,833 - Nice to meet you also. 463 00:22:04,833 --> 00:22:06,125 - So, Debby and Donna, 464 00:22:06,208 --> 00:22:08,458 how long has it been since you've been on this property? 465 00:22:08,542 --> 00:22:10,708 - It's been about eight years for me. 466 00:22:10,792 --> 00:22:12,500 - And have you been in the house at any point? 467 00:22:12,583 --> 00:22:14,708 - No, I haven't been in the house, no. 468 00:22:14,792 --> 00:22:17,500 - So what I have in mind is that we'll go in and take a look 469 00:22:17,583 --> 00:22:18,667 because I'd be interested 470 00:22:18,750 --> 00:22:20,208 in getting your impressions of this 471 00:22:20,292 --> 00:22:22,125 and we can start to talk about what we're gonna do, okay? 472 00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:23,625 - Okay, that sounds good. - Okay, great. 473 00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:25,417 Let's go inside. - All right. 474 00:22:27,708 --> 00:22:28,833 (Debby gasps) 475 00:22:28,917 --> 00:22:30,833 (somber music) 476 00:22:32,042 --> 00:22:34,417 - Oh my god! (sobs) 477 00:22:44,042 --> 00:22:45,333 - DeeDee. 478 00:22:49,958 --> 00:22:52,208 It's much worse than 479 00:22:52,292 --> 00:22:54,708 what you ever, ever, ever, ever indicated. 480 00:22:54,792 --> 00:22:56,333 - [DeeDee] Debby, I'm sorry. - DeeDee! 481 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:58,375 - I didn't want y'all to get this upset. 482 00:22:58,458 --> 00:22:59,417 We're getting help. 483 00:22:59,417 --> 00:23:00,917 Now you see why I needed help? 484 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,750 - You should have gotten help from us a long time ago. 485 00:23:03,833 --> 00:23:06,917 DeeDee, you shouldn't have gone through this by yourself. 486 00:23:07,042 --> 00:23:10,500 Why did you think we weren't here for you? Why? 487 00:23:11,917 --> 00:23:12,917 - If he was- 488 00:23:13,042 --> 00:23:14,500 - [Debby] We've always been here for you, always! 489 00:23:14,625 --> 00:23:16,167 - I know you have and you're here now. 490 00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:17,292 And that's what I appreciate. 491 00:23:17,375 --> 00:23:18,500 - We could have helped you years ago. 492 00:23:18,583 --> 00:23:19,875 Years ago, DeeDee! 493 00:23:19,875 --> 00:23:23,250 You have tolerated this for years. 494 00:23:23,333 --> 00:23:25,250 You've put up with him by yourself 495 00:23:25,375 --> 00:23:27,125 and we were here for you. 496 00:23:27,208 --> 00:23:29,375 We were here for you, DeeDee. 497 00:23:29,458 --> 00:23:32,000 And you never let us help you. 498 00:23:33,125 --> 00:23:35,583 I can't imagine that someone would do this to a house. 499 00:23:35,583 --> 00:23:36,958 - I know, that's why I was so mad. 500 00:23:37,042 --> 00:23:38,417 - [Debby] And to someone that they love. 501 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,917 He claims to love her. - I know. 502 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000 - You don't do this to someone you love. 503 00:23:43,042 --> 00:23:46,833 - I just can't imagine that he can look at this 504 00:23:46,958 --> 00:23:49,667 and not understand why she won't come back. 505 00:23:49,792 --> 00:23:52,708 I totally get why you are not here. 506 00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:55,833 - You could have had help from us years ago. 507 00:23:55,917 --> 00:23:58,167 - So DeeDee, you didn't call on your family to help? 508 00:23:58,250 --> 00:23:59,917 - No. - Why is that? 509 00:24:01,167 --> 00:24:02,667 - Well, I was embarrassed. 510 00:24:02,708 --> 00:24:04,500 - Embarrassed. - Yeah. 511 00:24:04,583 --> 00:24:06,875 - Yeah, that happens a lot. - Yeah. 512 00:24:06,875 --> 00:24:09,542 - I mean it, and unfortunately, one of the things that happens 513 00:24:09,625 --> 00:24:11,000 is as this pile keeps growing, 514 00:24:11,042 --> 00:24:12,667 you get more and more embarrassed about it 515 00:24:12,667 --> 00:24:14,417 and then you start shutting people out. 516 00:24:15,417 --> 00:24:17,167 - I have a very close family, 517 00:24:17,208 --> 00:24:21,667 but I didn't want to make them have to worry about it. 518 00:24:21,708 --> 00:24:23,958 I didn't want to worry them with this. 519 00:24:24,042 --> 00:24:26,042 - Would it have been a bother if DeeDee had called? 520 00:24:26,167 --> 00:24:28,333 - [Debby] No, no, no. - [Donna] We've offered. 521 00:24:28,375 --> 00:24:29,833 - We've tried. - [Donna] We've said. 522 00:24:29,917 --> 00:24:31,500 - They're very willing to help, 523 00:24:31,583 --> 00:24:33,958 but Tim wouldn't let me do anything, 524 00:24:34,042 --> 00:24:36,417 so he's sure not going to listen to them. 525 00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:37,667 - You know, Debby and Donna, 526 00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:39,417 what are your thoughts about Tim? 527 00:24:40,708 --> 00:24:43,042 - There's no, anger, you can't put a limit to it. 528 00:24:43,167 --> 00:24:44,333 There's no limit to it. 529 00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:46,083 - [Dr. Tolin] Very angry. - Yes. 530 00:24:46,167 --> 00:24:47,333 - Would you like to take a look 531 00:24:47,417 --> 00:24:48,583 at a little bit more of the house? 532 00:24:48,667 --> 00:24:49,917 Would you like to see the bedroom? 533 00:24:50,083 --> 00:24:52,000 - [DeeDee] Oh my god, I haven't been in the bedroom. 534 00:24:52,083 --> 00:24:54,667 (suspenseful music) 535 00:24:54,792 --> 00:24:58,625 - [Debby] Oh my God, what was he thinking? 536 00:24:58,708 --> 00:25:00,583 What in tarnation is this? 537 00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:01,667 - [Debby] Oh my God. 538 00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:03,333 - [DeeDee] What did he do here? 539 00:25:03,458 --> 00:25:05,667 - [Dr. Tolin] How you feeling, DeeDee? 540 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:10,208 - Angry. I've seen enough. 541 00:25:10,292 --> 00:25:11,458 - All right, let's go. 542 00:25:11,542 --> 00:25:12,833 - Guys, tell you what, 543 00:25:12,875 --> 00:25:14,042 why don't we go outside 'cause Tim is outside 544 00:25:14,125 --> 00:25:16,333 and let's go meet him and talk to him, okay? 545 00:25:16,417 --> 00:25:18,833 (suspenseful music) 546 00:25:18,917 --> 00:25:21,000 Hey Tim, how you doing? - Hey, what's up, Doc? 547 00:25:21,083 --> 00:25:22,708 - Good to see you. - Good to see you. 548 00:25:22,833 --> 00:25:25,375 - So DeeDee and Donna and Debby 549 00:25:25,458 --> 00:25:27,500 have had a chance to look inside the house 550 00:25:27,542 --> 00:25:30,500 and, any reactions that you want to share? 551 00:25:30,583 --> 00:25:34,083 - Tim, I know you know, we're upset. 552 00:25:34,208 --> 00:25:35,333 - Sure. 553 00:25:35,417 --> 00:25:37,000 - We've always been here for you, 554 00:25:37,042 --> 00:25:40,833 but neither one of y'all let us come and help. 555 00:25:40,875 --> 00:25:42,583 I don't know if you were recognizing 556 00:25:42,583 --> 00:25:46,000 that this was a problem, but we're really, 557 00:25:46,083 --> 00:25:50,500 we've watched DeeDee for years try to change this 558 00:25:50,542 --> 00:25:51,917 because DeeDee loves you 559 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,792 and she wants this marriage and we support that. 560 00:25:55,875 --> 00:25:57,167 But I need you to understand, 561 00:25:57,292 --> 00:26:00,667 we're really upset right now and we're here for you. 562 00:26:00,708 --> 00:26:06,292 But this is beyond anything that DeeDee needs to be around, 563 00:26:06,375 --> 00:26:07,958 or you for that matter. 564 00:26:08,042 --> 00:26:09,208 - Okay. 565 00:26:09,292 --> 00:26:10,750 - Thank you Donna. 566 00:26:10,833 --> 00:26:12,333 Debby, you look like you're having a little reaction. 567 00:26:12,417 --> 00:26:13,667 What's up? 568 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:16,500 - I can't believe you did this, first of all, 569 00:26:16,583 --> 00:26:24,000 but we're here now and we just have to fix this 570 00:26:24,042 --> 00:26:26,958 and find a way that this never happens again, 571 00:26:30,333 --> 00:26:33,375 so that you can enjoy your life. 572 00:26:33,458 --> 00:26:35,000 I know you don't enjoy this. 573 00:26:35,083 --> 00:26:36,000 - No, I don't. 574 00:26:36,125 --> 00:26:37,542 - [Debby] I know you don't enjoy it. 575 00:26:37,625 --> 00:26:39,792 - No I don't, yeah. 576 00:26:39,875 --> 00:26:41,958 - So, Tim, are you willing to accept that help today? 577 00:26:42,042 --> 00:26:43,083 - Sure. - Yeah? 578 00:26:44,083 --> 00:26:46,583 - I'm sorry for upsetting y'all there. 579 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,958 It's been upsetting to me, kind of for a number of reasons. 580 00:26:52,042 --> 00:26:53,583 - [DeeDee] Yeah. 581 00:26:53,667 --> 00:26:55,708 - It's not all your fault, you know? 582 00:26:55,708 --> 00:26:56,875 - [Debby] Wait, what? 583 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,708 - I said, it's not all your fault. 584 00:26:58,792 --> 00:27:00,167 - All her fault? - [Tim] I said it's not. 585 00:27:00,208 --> 00:27:02,542 - I know, but I don't- - How much of it is my fault? 586 00:27:02,667 --> 00:27:04,458 - What? - I mean the junk. 587 00:27:04,542 --> 00:27:05,833 - Not that, I mean. - Oh, okay. 588 00:27:05,917 --> 00:27:07,583 Well, just the marriage, but that's- 589 00:27:07,667 --> 00:27:09,542 - No, no, no. I'm just talking about, 590 00:27:09,625 --> 00:27:13,292 I said she probably thinks that it's, you know, 591 00:27:13,375 --> 00:27:15,500 that I'm blaming her for it and it's not, I'm not. 592 00:27:15,583 --> 00:27:17,042 - [Debby] Oh, yeah. 593 00:27:17,125 --> 00:27:18,667 I don't see any blame with DeeDee at all here, at all. 594 00:27:18,750 --> 00:27:20,125 - I just think that 595 00:27:22,917 --> 00:27:26,000 I'm ready to help and move forward. 596 00:27:26,083 --> 00:27:29,000 I need you to understand, Tim, I love you. 597 00:27:29,042 --> 00:27:31,333 You are part of our family. 598 00:27:31,375 --> 00:27:33,042 I've always loved you. 599 00:27:33,125 --> 00:27:36,833 We would love to clean this up, move forward, 600 00:27:36,875 --> 00:27:39,208 give you the happiness that I know y'all could have. 601 00:27:39,292 --> 00:27:40,708 - Yes. 602 00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:42,417 - All this needs to go and we're here to do that. 603 00:27:42,542 --> 00:27:46,125 But I don't want you to ever think that we didn't love you 604 00:27:46,208 --> 00:27:49,125 and that you weren't part of the family because you are. 605 00:27:49,208 --> 00:27:50,417 And you used to come out 606 00:27:50,542 --> 00:27:52,792 and you'd go fishing at the lake and you love to fish. 607 00:27:52,875 --> 00:27:54,833 It was so fun to see you out there. 608 00:27:54,875 --> 00:27:58,833 And then you stopped, you just kind of disappeared. 609 00:27:58,875 --> 00:28:01,250 And I guess got evolved into this. 610 00:28:01,333 --> 00:28:04,792 And so we want you to be there. 611 00:28:04,875 --> 00:28:07,542 I want you to come out to the lake and fish again. 612 00:28:07,667 --> 00:28:09,000 I want you to come to the holidays 613 00:28:09,083 --> 00:28:10,833 and I want you to meet the family 614 00:28:10,958 --> 00:28:12,917 you have not met in all these years. 615 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,708 (light country music) 616 00:28:14,833 --> 00:28:16,292 - [Dr. Tolin] Tim, why'd you disappear? 617 00:28:16,375 --> 00:28:21,333 - I felt kind of isolated, kind of withdrawn. 618 00:28:21,417 --> 00:28:23,625 - So the more you would hoard, 619 00:28:23,708 --> 00:28:26,167 the more you would kind of isolate yourself. 620 00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:27,917 And of course, the more isolated you became, 621 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,083 the more withdrawn you felt and the more you would hoard. 622 00:28:31,208 --> 00:28:34,833 - Well, I don't know if it's hoarding. 623 00:28:34,875 --> 00:28:37,542 - Oh God. (laughs) - [Tim] What? 624 00:28:37,625 --> 00:28:38,958 - [Dr. Tolin] Debby, I think you have 625 00:28:39,042 --> 00:28:40,542 a reaction to what Tim just said. 626 00:28:40,625 --> 00:28:42,000 - It doesn't seem like hoarding to me. 627 00:28:42,125 --> 00:28:44,167 - That doesn't seem like hoarding? 628 00:28:44,208 --> 00:28:45,292 - I mean, inside's terrible, it's awful. 629 00:28:45,375 --> 00:28:47,750 - Well, and this too, I mean, this also. 630 00:28:47,833 --> 00:28:49,750 - It's hard for me to throw away good stuff. 631 00:28:49,833 --> 00:28:53,125 - So if you don't recognize what hoarding is, 632 00:28:53,208 --> 00:28:55,833 then as soon as we clean this up, 633 00:28:55,917 --> 00:28:57,833 you could start doing all this again 634 00:28:57,875 --> 00:29:00,167 because you don't recognize that. 635 00:29:00,292 --> 00:29:01,833 - No, I don't want all of this anymore. 636 00:29:01,917 --> 00:29:03,500 I want to get where I have it, 637 00:29:03,583 --> 00:29:04,958 everything in place where it belongs. 638 00:29:05,042 --> 00:29:08,542 - This is a hoarding situation outside as much as inside. 639 00:29:08,625 --> 00:29:11,417 And I'm with Debby. 640 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:15,417 Tim, it's gotta change. 641 00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:17,333 - I mean, I'm here. 642 00:29:17,375 --> 00:29:19,500 - We gotta get rid of just about all of it. 643 00:29:19,542 --> 00:29:23,500 You know, kind of keep a few things you want to fix up. 644 00:29:23,542 --> 00:29:24,875 - I don't want a lot of, 645 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,167 I mean, I don't need everything here. 646 00:29:26,250 --> 00:29:29,125 - Good, so let's get started cleaning up. 647 00:29:31,292 --> 00:29:32,875 (dramatic music) 648 00:29:36,792 --> 00:29:38,125 (upbeat country music) 649 00:30:00,042 --> 00:30:01,333 - [Dorothy] Hello, everybody. 650 00:30:01,375 --> 00:30:03,000 - [Group] Hello. 651 00:30:03,083 --> 00:30:05,917 - Thank you all for being here. 652 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,333 We have Tim, we're here to help you. 653 00:30:08,417 --> 00:30:09,792 DeeDee, your wife. 654 00:30:09,875 --> 00:30:11,333 DeeDee, we have your two sisters. 655 00:30:11,375 --> 00:30:12,958 We've got Debby and Donna. 656 00:30:13,042 --> 00:30:16,875 We have our standup guys and we have our boss organizers. 657 00:30:16,958 --> 00:30:19,250 This is a very big crew 658 00:30:19,333 --> 00:30:21,667 and we have a couple of things going on. 659 00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:26,000 Couple of crises, which is why we're here. 660 00:30:26,083 --> 00:30:30,625 And one of them, Dr. Tolin, is marriage, right? 661 00:30:30,708 --> 00:30:32,250 - Absolutely, absolutely. 662 00:30:32,333 --> 00:30:34,958 And what we want to do is not just clean out a house, 663 00:30:35,083 --> 00:30:36,667 but also make space so the two of you 664 00:30:36,708 --> 00:30:39,167 can reconcile and heal together. - [Dorothy] That's right. 665 00:30:39,292 --> 00:30:41,458 - [Dr. Tolin] That's part of my aim for the two of you. 666 00:30:41,542 --> 00:30:43,667 - So, while Dr. Tolin is working on that, 667 00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:46,042 what we're doing, all 20 of us, 668 00:30:46,125 --> 00:30:49,083 we're going to be working on the property on the outside 669 00:30:49,208 --> 00:30:52,000 so we can meet the criteria for the fire marshal. 670 00:30:52,042 --> 00:30:54,708 We have to get this place looking good. 671 00:30:54,833 --> 00:30:56,917 And we also wanna get inside the house 672 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,833 and turn it from a mechanic's garage into a home. 673 00:31:03,625 --> 00:31:05,167 This is the backyard. 674 00:31:05,292 --> 00:31:06,875 All right, this is the tree line. 675 00:31:06,875 --> 00:31:08,333 You all know what I'm talking about. 676 00:31:08,417 --> 00:31:10,042 There was all sorts of trash here. 677 00:31:10,125 --> 00:31:12,167 We're gonna get all of this picked up. 678 00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:14,000 We are gonna move the semi trailer. 679 00:31:14,042 --> 00:31:15,583 If there are any cars that we're keeping, 680 00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:18,750 they're gonna go back here along the tree line. 681 00:31:18,833 --> 00:31:21,875 Then they're going to have another set of cars 682 00:31:21,958 --> 00:31:23,667 that if you're considering selling them, 683 00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:26,292 we'll have someone come in to sell. 684 00:31:26,375 --> 00:31:27,333 In the meantime, 685 00:31:27,417 --> 00:31:30,792 we have about 190 tires around the property. 686 00:31:30,875 --> 00:31:32,875 So we're gonna line them up here. 687 00:31:32,958 --> 00:31:35,833 Tim, we're gonna let you review them really quickly. 688 00:31:35,917 --> 00:31:38,083 We want to get you some money if we can. 689 00:31:38,208 --> 00:31:41,000 Stand up guys, you know, you're gonna be moving your truck 690 00:31:41,083 --> 00:31:44,708 around in circles, picking up metal and trash, right? 691 00:31:44,792 --> 00:31:46,542 Thank you for that. 692 00:31:46,625 --> 00:31:47,875 Step on over there. 693 00:31:47,875 --> 00:31:49,833 I wanna say one thing, it's super hot. 694 00:31:49,958 --> 00:31:51,875 It was 108 a couple of days ago. 695 00:31:51,958 --> 00:31:53,750 Today it's a little bit better. 696 00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:57,167 But really keep yourselves safe. 697 00:31:57,250 --> 00:31:58,167 Dr. Tolin? 698 00:31:58,250 --> 00:31:59,958 - Thank you, Dorothy. - You're welcome. 699 00:32:00,083 --> 00:32:01,375 - I've had a chance to meet with Tim 700 00:32:01,375 --> 00:32:03,833 and with DeeDee, and Donna, and Debby. 701 00:32:03,875 --> 00:32:05,833 I just want to see, is everybody ready to go? 702 00:32:05,917 --> 00:32:07,125 - Yes. - Yeah. 703 00:32:07,208 --> 00:32:08,875 - Who's got questions? Who's got concerns? 704 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,042 - I thought we could get rid of most of the vehicles. 705 00:32:11,125 --> 00:32:12,667 How many are you planning on keeping? 706 00:32:12,792 --> 00:32:14,458 Maybe three or four? - Yeah. 707 00:32:14,542 --> 00:32:15,375 - You can? - Yeah. 708 00:32:15,458 --> 00:32:16,792 - Okay. 709 00:32:16,875 --> 00:32:18,542 - Donna and Debby, any questions or concerns that you have? 710 00:32:18,625 --> 00:32:21,000 - No, thank you, I'm good. - No, I'm ready to go. 711 00:32:21,125 --> 00:32:22,625 - [Dr. Tolin] Okay. 712 00:32:22,708 --> 00:32:24,875 - So everybody, I want you to just take off to the areas 713 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,792 that I've asked you to work on. 714 00:32:26,875 --> 00:32:28,667 Let's do this thing! Okay? 715 00:32:28,750 --> 00:32:31,458 - [Group] Yes! - Yes! Woo! 716 00:32:31,542 --> 00:32:33,917 (suspenseful music) 717 00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:42,333 (trucks revving) 718 00:32:59,208 --> 00:33:01,000 We've gotta talk about cars. 719 00:33:01,083 --> 00:33:02,625 We've got three categories. 720 00:33:02,708 --> 00:33:05,167 We've got cars we're going to keep along the property line. 721 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:06,625 - Yes. 722 00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:09,958 - Then we have another category of cars that you wanna sell. 723 00:33:10,042 --> 00:33:13,417 We have someone coming here ready to offer you cash 724 00:33:13,542 --> 00:33:15,708 and tow them away. - [Tim] Great. 725 00:33:15,792 --> 00:33:18,167 - And then the third one is for the burned out cars 726 00:33:18,250 --> 00:33:20,500 and the ones that have Xs on them, that's scrap. 727 00:33:20,583 --> 00:33:23,083 - Yes. - So I need to know what's what. 728 00:33:23,167 --> 00:33:25,500 (upbeat country music) 729 00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:30,583 So the Red Ford Ranger is no longer a keep. 730 00:33:30,667 --> 00:33:31,667 - Well, I'm gonna be selling it. 731 00:33:31,792 --> 00:33:33,208 - It's a sell now. 732 00:33:33,292 --> 00:33:35,542 Trans Am is a sell. - Yep. 733 00:33:35,667 --> 00:33:37,292 - The Camry. 734 00:33:37,375 --> 00:33:38,333 - Gone. 735 00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:41,375 - Boat I know is going, the white Chevy Z. 736 00:33:41,458 --> 00:33:43,083 - That's mine, I'm keeping that. 737 00:33:43,167 --> 00:33:44,583 - Why do you need to? 738 00:33:44,667 --> 00:33:46,333 You gonna sell that? 'Cause you've got the other one. 739 00:33:46,458 --> 00:33:48,167 - Because it's got a $5,000 engine under the hood. 740 00:33:48,292 --> 00:33:49,833 - Okay, but you just bought that other one. 741 00:33:49,875 --> 00:33:51,333 - I know that. - Okay. 742 00:33:51,375 --> 00:33:53,083 - [Dorothy] What about the GMC Spirit? 743 00:33:53,167 --> 00:33:54,417 - That's my keeper. 744 00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:55,542 - [Dorothy] That's number three for keeping. 745 00:33:55,625 --> 00:33:57,042 - [Tim] That's it. 746 00:33:57,167 --> 00:33:57,833 - [Dorothy] The green Ford. - [Tim] That's outta here. 747 00:33:57,958 --> 00:33:59,833 That's a seller. - Very good. 748 00:33:59,875 --> 00:34:01,250 White Ford pickup. 749 00:34:01,333 --> 00:34:03,000 - [Tim] Yeah, that's mine right there. 750 00:34:03,083 --> 00:34:07,333 - So that's car number four? - Yeah, that's it, yeah. 751 00:34:07,375 --> 00:34:09,750 - [Dorothy] Red Corvette. - [Tim] Corvette's a keeper. 752 00:34:09,833 --> 00:34:11,042 - We've got five cars. 753 00:34:11,125 --> 00:34:13,875 - Okay, that's good, that's doable. 754 00:34:13,958 --> 00:34:15,000 - Does that work for you, DeeDee? 755 00:34:15,042 --> 00:34:16,542 - [DeeDee] Yeah. - Okay. 756 00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:18,542 Think Tim's doing a good job? 757 00:34:18,667 --> 00:34:20,167 - Yeah, you are. - Let's let him hear it. 758 00:34:20,250 --> 00:34:21,792 - Good job. - All right, nice job, Tim. 759 00:34:21,875 --> 00:34:23,083 - That is good. - All right. 760 00:34:23,167 --> 00:34:25,125 Look at the smile on that face! (group cheering) 761 00:34:25,208 --> 00:34:26,792 Good job, very good! 762 00:34:26,875 --> 00:34:28,250 - It's hard to let go of stuff, 763 00:34:28,375 --> 00:34:29,917 but I appreciate the fact that you're willing to do it. 764 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,958 - You're doing it. - Yeah. 765 00:34:31,042 --> 00:34:32,667 - I know, I'm very pleased. 766 00:34:32,708 --> 00:34:35,125 (dramatic music) 767 00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:52,583 (suspenseful music) 768 00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:59,125 - Let me just point out, this is a lot of tires, right? 769 00:34:59,208 --> 00:35:00,917 I mean, it snakes all the way around here. 770 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,833 Dorothy, how many tires are we looking at? 771 00:35:02,875 --> 00:35:06,292 - This right here, about 220 tires for Tim to review. 772 00:35:06,375 --> 00:35:08,083 - Tim, I wonder whether 773 00:35:08,167 --> 00:35:10,167 you might be willing to take a bold step. 774 00:35:10,208 --> 00:35:11,375 - What's that? 775 00:35:11,458 --> 00:35:13,167 - Could you let all these go? 776 00:35:14,208 --> 00:35:16,125 - Some of 'em belong on vehicles, I mean. 777 00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:17,875 - But what if you just got rid of 'em? 778 00:35:17,958 --> 00:35:18,958 I mean, what would happen? 779 00:35:19,042 --> 00:35:20,250 - It's just tires. 780 00:35:20,333 --> 00:35:22,333 - [Dr, Tolin] It's just tires, right. 781 00:35:22,375 --> 00:35:24,375 - But then the ones, the cars that I'm gonna keep, 782 00:35:24,458 --> 00:35:25,833 I don't have tires for anymore. 783 00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:27,792 Like there's new ones right there for the truck. 784 00:35:27,875 --> 00:35:29,333 - Okay. 785 00:35:29,458 --> 00:35:31,333 - Well, how many do you want to plan on keeping of 220? 786 00:35:31,375 --> 00:35:33,000 - Not 220. - Okay. 787 00:35:33,042 --> 00:35:34,542 - I didn't know there were that many, but. 788 00:35:34,625 --> 00:35:37,042 - Okay, good, so let's get rid of 'em. 789 00:35:37,125 --> 00:35:38,417 - That's one of the things 790 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:41,500 that we've had a contentious spot about, right? 791 00:35:41,625 --> 00:35:42,542 - Yeah. 792 00:35:42,667 --> 00:35:43,958 - You don't just throw everything out. 793 00:35:44,042 --> 00:35:45,125 - (laughs) I do. 794 00:35:45,208 --> 00:35:46,583 - It actually has a dollar value. 795 00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:49,000 - Dorothy, can we convert these to cash? 796 00:35:49,083 --> 00:35:51,333 - Yes, I do have a tire person. 797 00:35:51,375 --> 00:35:55,708 They're going to pay you $3 for every so many tires, 798 00:35:55,833 --> 00:35:58,333 you know, so yeah, you're gonna make some money. 799 00:35:58,375 --> 00:36:00,667 The more you give away, the more money you get. 800 00:36:00,667 --> 00:36:02,208 - I think that when we're thinking about 801 00:36:02,292 --> 00:36:03,500 keeping versus discarding, 802 00:36:03,583 --> 00:36:05,583 it would make sense to keep only those things 803 00:36:05,667 --> 00:36:07,792 that you know you have an immediate use for. 804 00:36:07,875 --> 00:36:10,375 But otherwise, maybe we just need to let go of it. 805 00:36:11,875 --> 00:36:13,208 - I don't have a problem with that. 806 00:36:13,292 --> 00:36:15,167 But that your suggestion is, 807 00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:16,417 yeah, that's what I concur with. 808 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:18,333 - Okay, why don't we try that? - Sure. 809 00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:19,917 - Let's see how many you can get rid of. 810 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,375 - Great. - Okay. 811 00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:24,333 - Space yourselves out because you're gonna push or pull 812 00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:28,167 the tire one way or the other as Tim makes decisions, okay? 813 00:36:29,042 --> 00:36:31,250 - [Tim] I have to look at these. It's gonna take a- 814 00:36:31,333 --> 00:36:32,958 - [Dr. Tolin] You can look. - [Tim] couple minutes. 815 00:36:33,042 --> 00:36:34,667 That's gone. 816 00:36:34,750 --> 00:36:36,167 That one's gone. 817 00:36:37,167 --> 00:36:39,750 That's keep this one and the one like it. 818 00:36:39,833 --> 00:36:40,917 There's two of these. 819 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,375 They're gonna go on a trailer. 820 00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:44,250 - [Dorothy] Don't tell us, just say I'm keeping it or not. 821 00:36:44,375 --> 00:36:45,333 - Yeah, keep. - Just keep or go. 822 00:36:45,417 --> 00:36:46,583 Keep or go, come on. 823 00:36:46,667 --> 00:36:48,000 - Come on, we've got things to do. 824 00:36:48,083 --> 00:36:49,500 Let's get this done. - That is not mine. 825 00:36:49,542 --> 00:36:52,042 I don't know that one, don't need that one. 826 00:36:52,125 --> 00:36:54,417 That's a go, I don't need it. 827 00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:58,500 - Hey, Doc, I'm hearing a lot of huffy breath over here. 828 00:36:58,583 --> 00:36:59,542 Heavy breathing. 829 00:36:59,625 --> 00:37:01,167 - We've got more things to do than this. 830 00:37:01,208 --> 00:37:02,333 - [Tim] That's a goner. 831 00:37:02,458 --> 00:37:04,250 - This is taking way too much time. 832 00:37:04,375 --> 00:37:05,667 - Goner, that's a goner, that's a goner. 833 00:37:05,792 --> 00:37:07,083 That's a goner, that's a goner, that's a goner. 834 00:37:07,167 --> 00:37:08,292 - Well, okay, he's almost done. 835 00:37:08,417 --> 00:37:09,750 And then let's get busy doing something else. 836 00:37:09,833 --> 00:37:11,208 - [Dr. Tolin] Okay, we will. 837 00:37:11,292 --> 00:37:12,500 - This is getting out of hand. 838 00:37:12,583 --> 00:37:15,208 - That's a goner. That's a goner, that's a goner. 839 00:37:15,292 --> 00:37:18,333 That's a goner and that is a keep. 840 00:37:18,375 --> 00:37:19,625 - Okay, everybody, 841 00:37:19,708 --> 00:37:24,417 Tim just completed 220 tires in 15 minutes! 842 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:26,167 (group cheering) All right? 843 00:37:26,250 --> 00:37:27,792 That's good stuff. 844 00:37:27,875 --> 00:37:29,000 Good job, Tim, good job. 845 00:37:29,125 --> 00:37:30,292 - Let's get busy doing something else. 846 00:37:30,375 --> 00:37:31,833 - Good job. - Productive. 847 00:37:31,958 --> 00:37:34,542 - This is part of it, isn't it? - Oh, yeah, but you know. 848 00:37:34,625 --> 00:37:36,292 - Remember this is kind of a process. 849 00:37:36,375 --> 00:37:37,542 It's gonna take a little while. 850 00:37:37,625 --> 00:37:39,042 Right now we just want to make sure 851 00:37:39,125 --> 00:37:40,542 that we understand Tim's process. 852 00:37:40,667 --> 00:37:42,500 We know how he makes his decisions. 853 00:37:42,583 --> 00:37:44,083 We want to make sure he knows 854 00:37:44,167 --> 00:37:45,750 that he's in control of the situation 855 00:37:45,833 --> 00:37:47,167 and that people aren't gonna start 856 00:37:47,208 --> 00:37:48,708 throwing stuff away behind his back. 857 00:37:48,792 --> 00:37:50,250 And as long as you know, 858 00:37:50,333 --> 00:37:51,125 so that's whwhereat we're gonna start. 859 00:37:51,208 --> 00:37:52,750 - [DeeDee] Okay. 860 00:37:52,833 --> 00:37:54,083 - [Dr. Tolin] And then we're gonna pick up steam as we go. 861 00:37:54,167 --> 00:37:55,250 - [Tim] Woo. 862 00:37:56,250 --> 00:37:57,375 - I was very surprised 863 00:37:57,458 --> 00:37:59,500 that he got rid of as many tires as he did 864 00:37:59,583 --> 00:38:01,833 and just kept a small amount of cars, 865 00:38:01,875 --> 00:38:04,375 which I never thought there were that many ever. 866 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:07,917 I just don't know how it's all gonna get done. 867 00:38:12,833 --> 00:38:14,500 (slow bluesy music) 868 00:38:30,167 --> 00:38:32,292 - Welcome back. - Yay! 869 00:38:32,375 --> 00:38:33,292 - We're all here, we're all here. 870 00:38:33,375 --> 00:38:34,792 Well, except for Debby. 871 00:38:34,875 --> 00:38:36,167 She's gonna be joining us later, correct? 872 00:38:36,208 --> 00:38:37,375 - Yeah, right. 873 00:38:37,458 --> 00:38:39,833 - We had an exceptional day yesterday. 874 00:38:39,875 --> 00:38:43,125 Tim, you made so many decisions, right? 875 00:38:43,208 --> 00:38:44,500 - Yes, ma'am. 876 00:38:44,625 --> 00:38:47,917 - You got rid of 140 tires out of 220, brilliant. 877 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,083 You looked at 46 cars again and made a decision 878 00:38:52,208 --> 00:38:55,333 and pared it down to seven, including the two in the front. 879 00:38:55,417 --> 00:38:56,583 - Oh seven, yeah, you're right. 880 00:38:56,667 --> 00:38:58,750 - Five out back, two in the front. 881 00:38:58,833 --> 00:38:59,833 We also went through 882 00:38:59,917 --> 00:39:03,417 and collected so much of the scrap metal. 883 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:07,708 We got rid of five tons worth of scrap metal and trash. 884 00:39:07,792 --> 00:39:08,792 - Five tons? 885 00:39:08,875 --> 00:39:11,667 - I mean, what does that say to you ladies? 886 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:15,333 - Amazing, good job. - Yeah, that is a lot. 887 00:39:15,417 --> 00:39:17,125 - So Tim, I think you did a great job, 888 00:39:17,208 --> 00:39:18,958 and Dorothy and I do this a lot 889 00:39:18,958 --> 00:39:22,625 and we rarely see that much stuff go on the first day. 890 00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:24,667 So we're really impressed. 891 00:39:24,792 --> 00:39:27,750 And I just want to let you know that I know it's not easy 892 00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:30,750 because if letting things go was easy for you, 893 00:39:30,833 --> 00:39:32,167 we wouldn't be here in the first place. 894 00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:33,542 - Right. 895 00:39:33,625 --> 00:39:35,417 - Tim, how are you feeling about the progress? 896 00:39:35,542 --> 00:39:37,208 - It's kind of fun in a way really. 897 00:39:37,292 --> 00:39:39,208 I mean, I'm enjoying it 'cause it's like, fun. 898 00:39:39,292 --> 00:39:40,583 I can see that, hey, I have a yard. 899 00:39:40,667 --> 00:39:42,167 I can put a yard back in here. 900 00:39:42,250 --> 00:39:44,000 - Good, I hope you'll continue with that good feeling today. 901 00:39:44,083 --> 00:39:45,667 - Sure, sure. - [Dr. Tolin] 'Cause I think 902 00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:47,083 there's more good feelings to come. 903 00:39:47,208 --> 00:39:48,875 - Sure. - All right, Dorothy? 904 00:39:48,958 --> 00:39:49,917 - Yeah, back in my corner. 905 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,333 Like what's the plan, right? (laughs) 906 00:39:51,375 --> 00:39:52,208 - Absolutely. - Right. 907 00:39:52,333 --> 00:39:53,667 - Don't worry, I've got one. 908 00:39:53,792 --> 00:39:55,833 Where we're going to start is out here. 909 00:39:55,875 --> 00:39:57,917 I need for you to look at all these piles 910 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,708 and tell us is it scrap, keep, or trash? 911 00:40:02,792 --> 00:40:08,000 We need to basically have this outside area done. 912 00:40:08,042 --> 00:40:10,083 So are we all in agreement? - [DeeDee] Yeah. 913 00:40:10,167 --> 00:40:12,667 - Shortcuts need to be made, decisions need to be made. 914 00:40:12,708 --> 00:40:14,500 We need to move fast, okay? 915 00:40:14,542 --> 00:40:15,958 - [Dr. Tolin] Got it. - Okay, let's go. 916 00:40:16,042 --> 00:40:16,958 I'm ready. - All right. 917 00:40:17,042 --> 00:40:18,083 - Let's do this. 918 00:40:18,208 --> 00:40:19,917 - Let's have you start over here. 919 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,417 Going left to right. 920 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:22,750 So come over here. - [Tim] All right. 921 00:40:22,833 --> 00:40:24,583 - So we can be closest to the truck. 922 00:40:24,667 --> 00:40:25,833 - Should be easy. 923 00:40:25,875 --> 00:40:27,333 - [DeeDee] Realize how much time that takes 924 00:40:27,417 --> 00:40:28,500 to sort through all this? 925 00:40:28,542 --> 00:40:29,833 Can you just- 926 00:40:29,875 --> 00:40:31,958 - Would you please let me handle it, dear? 927 00:40:32,042 --> 00:40:33,125 hank you. 928 00:40:33,208 --> 00:40:35,042 I mean, you've said it like 10 times in the last, 929 00:40:35,125 --> 00:40:37,083 that's that repetitive thing doesn't make me go any faster. 930 00:40:37,167 --> 00:40:38,583 - Okay, this takes- 931 00:40:38,708 --> 00:40:40,833 - Gotta be more clear minded. It makes me get, (growls) 932 00:40:40,875 --> 00:40:43,833 - This takes a lot of time to sort through all this. 933 00:40:43,958 --> 00:40:45,125 - I'm not sorting. 934 00:40:45,208 --> 00:40:47,208 I know what I need to keep and what needs to go. 935 00:40:47,292 --> 00:40:48,417 Just gimme a break please. 936 00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:49,833 - [DeeDee] Okay. - Please, thank you. 937 00:40:49,917 --> 00:40:52,583 - So what's the process that's happening right here? 938 00:40:52,708 --> 00:40:56,333 - I want him to eliminate as much as possible 939 00:40:56,375 --> 00:40:58,167 because this takes way too much time 940 00:40:58,292 --> 00:41:00,000 to go through every nitpicking thing. 941 00:41:00,042 --> 00:41:01,542 - Right. - And, okay. 942 00:41:01,667 --> 00:41:03,667 - [Dr. Tolin] But you see the process, right, DeeDee? 943 00:41:03,708 --> 00:41:04,833 - I might surprise you. 944 00:41:04,958 --> 00:41:07,208 - You push, he gets defensive, right? 945 00:41:07,292 --> 00:41:11,500 So that's the process that we're gonna keep bumping into. 946 00:41:11,542 --> 00:41:13,833 We want to just be as encouraging as possible 947 00:41:13,917 --> 00:41:15,792 without putting undue pressure on him 948 00:41:15,875 --> 00:41:17,458 because that's just gonna make him dig in 949 00:41:17,542 --> 00:41:19,125 and get more defensive. 950 00:41:19,208 --> 00:41:20,375 Does that make sense? 951 00:41:20,458 --> 00:41:21,542 - Yeah, it does. - Okay. 952 00:41:21,625 --> 00:41:25,083 - Thank you. - Okay, here we go. 953 00:41:25,083 --> 00:41:27,750 - That goes, those go. 954 00:41:27,833 --> 00:41:31,667 This can go, that can go, that can go. 955 00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:32,917 - [Dr. Tolin] Great, Tim. 956 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,583 - That can go, that can go, that can go. 957 00:41:35,667 --> 00:41:37,958 (suspenseful music) 958 00:41:38,958 --> 00:41:42,458 All this right here can go, this ladder can go. 959 00:41:42,542 --> 00:41:43,542 That can go. 960 00:41:45,792 --> 00:41:48,125 Keep. (laughs) That's a go. 961 00:41:56,250 --> 00:41:57,792 - So DeeDee. - Yes? 962 00:41:57,875 --> 00:42:01,042 - Tim, Donna, just so you know, Dr. Tolin, 963 00:42:01,125 --> 00:42:05,417 you made about 300 decisions in six minutes. 964 00:42:05,542 --> 00:42:07,958 - Mm hm. - That's awesome. 965 00:42:08,042 --> 00:42:09,583 - Yeah. - You didn't do it alone. 966 00:42:09,667 --> 00:42:11,542 We kind of made some assumptions 967 00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:12,708 and you agreed with our assumptions. 968 00:42:12,792 --> 00:42:14,125 - [Tim] Yeah, absolutely. 969 00:42:14,208 --> 00:42:15,750 - That's one of the shortcuts you talked about. 970 00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:17,292 Dr. Tolin, what do you wanna say here? 971 00:42:17,375 --> 00:42:20,000 - I want to talk about the marriage 972 00:42:20,042 --> 00:42:22,875 and I want to talk a little bit about how this process 973 00:42:22,958 --> 00:42:24,542 is actually good for the marriage. 974 00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:27,500 Because it seems like what you guys get into, 975 00:42:27,542 --> 00:42:29,000 but tell me if I'm wrong, 976 00:42:29,042 --> 00:42:32,167 is that DeeDee pushes and Tim gets defensive 977 00:42:32,208 --> 00:42:34,500 and then DeeDee pushes harder and Tim gets more defensive 978 00:42:34,583 --> 00:42:36,250 and the next thing you know, ugh, 979 00:42:36,250 --> 00:42:38,958 you're feeling terrible and lousy about each other, right? 980 00:42:39,042 --> 00:42:39,958 - Yep. 981 00:42:40,042 --> 00:42:42,208 - So I want to get you into the habit 982 00:42:42,208 --> 00:42:43,792 of having a relationship 983 00:42:43,875 --> 00:42:46,667 that's based on positive reinforcement, 984 00:42:46,750 --> 00:42:49,625 recognizing when he's doing a good job and telling him. 985 00:42:49,708 --> 00:42:51,000 Can you tell him he did a great job? 986 00:42:51,042 --> 00:42:54,250 - You did, I'm proud of you. This is amazing! 987 00:42:54,333 --> 00:42:55,542 - [Dr. Tolin] Good. 988 00:42:55,625 --> 00:42:57,708 - Let's just keep it up, so let's get busy. 989 00:42:58,750 --> 00:43:00,750 - This stuff right here is all keep, that's full scrap. 990 00:43:00,833 --> 00:43:02,208 No, I don't need this. 991 00:43:02,292 --> 00:43:03,792 This is all keep right here. 992 00:43:05,208 --> 00:43:07,792 (dramatic music) 993 00:43:10,833 --> 00:43:13,167 - [DeeDee] Tim, you don't need any of this. 994 00:43:13,292 --> 00:43:15,250 - Just let me handle it, I know what I'm doing. 995 00:43:15,375 --> 00:43:16,750 - [DeeDee] This all needs to go. 996 00:43:16,875 --> 00:43:18,667 - I just, I hadn't even been over here yet. 997 00:43:18,708 --> 00:43:20,292 That's a keep. 998 00:43:20,292 --> 00:43:21,958 And this is a keep. 999 00:43:22,042 --> 00:43:24,125 - That? Where is this gonna go? 1000 00:43:24,208 --> 00:43:25,292 - This is mine. 1001 00:43:25,375 --> 00:43:26,625 - But where are you gonna put it? 1002 00:43:26,708 --> 00:43:27,958 It's not gonna be stuck in the backyard. 1003 00:43:28,042 --> 00:43:29,458 - [Tim] No! - Where are you putting it? 1004 00:43:29,542 --> 00:43:31,708 - I'll put it somewhere where I can put my own man stuff 1005 00:43:31,792 --> 00:43:33,750 that I like to ride in, okay? 1006 00:43:33,833 --> 00:43:35,333 - Okay, this does not- 1007 00:43:35,417 --> 00:43:36,833 - You wanna take my mini bike too? 1008 00:43:36,875 --> 00:43:38,125 - Yeah. - My birthday? 1009 00:43:38,208 --> 00:43:40,333 - You can buy you another present or whatever. 1010 00:43:40,417 --> 00:43:41,708 - This is mine, personal! 1011 00:43:41,792 --> 00:43:43,833 - But okay, where are they gonna move it? 1012 00:43:43,917 --> 00:43:45,583 Remember, they said everything- 1013 00:43:45,583 --> 00:43:47,167 - No, it doesn't. 1014 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:48,542 - [DeeDee] Remember they said- - That's all goner, all that. 1015 00:43:48,625 --> 00:43:50,000 - everything that is still here is going, Tim. 1016 00:43:50,167 --> 00:43:51,208 - This is goner. 1017 00:43:51,333 --> 00:43:53,458 Let's see if I can make you a little bit happier. 1018 00:43:53,542 --> 00:43:54,542 I'm trying like hell. 1019 00:43:54,625 --> 00:43:55,875 I'll tell you what, girl. 1020 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,708 - These have to go or else, remember? 1021 00:43:58,833 --> 00:44:00,792 They said everything that's still here 1022 00:44:00,875 --> 00:44:02,292 is going to need to be gone. 1023 00:44:02,375 --> 00:44:04,000 So please get rid of it. 1024 00:44:04,083 --> 00:44:05,167 This needs to go. 1025 00:44:05,250 --> 00:44:07,333 - You just want these gone for some reason. 1026 00:44:07,417 --> 00:44:09,000 What is the deal? Why are you- 1027 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,500 - Because they're stuck in the yard here. 1028 00:44:10,583 --> 00:44:12,250 - They're not gonna be stuck in the yard. 1029 00:44:12,333 --> 00:44:13,583 - Okay. - What's going on? 1030 00:44:13,667 --> 00:44:15,458 - He needs to get rid of these. 1031 00:44:15,542 --> 00:44:16,875 - Remember, don't push. 1032 00:44:16,958 --> 00:44:19,875 Do not push even though you want to, right? 1033 00:44:21,208 --> 00:44:22,208 - Just for a second, 1034 00:44:22,333 --> 00:44:23,833 tell me what's going on between the two of you. 1035 00:44:23,917 --> 00:44:27,375 - Well, he just likes to collect things. 1036 00:44:27,458 --> 00:44:28,500 - Yeah. 1037 00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:30,042 - That have sat out here for, if it, 1038 00:44:30,125 --> 00:44:31,792 someone wants to buy it or whatever. 1039 00:44:31,875 --> 00:44:32,875 They haven't come for it. 1040 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,167 - [Tim] A lot of people wanted to. 1041 00:44:34,208 --> 00:44:35,667 - They haven't come for it yet, and you- 1042 00:44:35,708 --> 00:44:37,125 - Because I didn't put the motor on it yet 1043 00:44:37,208 --> 00:44:38,458 because I got bogged down with other stuff. 1044 00:44:38,542 --> 00:44:39,875 See, I got overwhelmed. 1045 00:44:39,958 --> 00:44:42,625 - Okay, so now you'll be able to have a clear mind. 1046 00:44:42,708 --> 00:44:44,167 - [Tim] Yes, I already have a clear mind. 1047 00:44:44,250 --> 00:44:46,667 - Because I understand you were overwhelmed with all this. 1048 00:44:46,708 --> 00:44:48,292 And now you're- 1049 00:44:48,375 --> 00:44:49,917 - No, I let it overwhelm me. I wouldn't be overwhelmed by it. 1050 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,500 - All this you've accumulated. 1051 00:44:52,625 --> 00:44:53,875 - Yeah, I had too much stuff. 1052 00:44:53,958 --> 00:44:55,375 Yeah, that overwhelmed me. 1053 00:44:55,458 --> 00:45:00,250 But I'm not like scatterbrained and mentally, you know? 1054 00:45:00,333 --> 00:45:01,458 - I know. - Out of it. 1055 00:45:01,542 --> 00:45:03,000 - I know, you're very smart. 1056 00:45:03,083 --> 00:45:06,000 But I'm just saying, all you're saying all this is here, 1057 00:45:06,042 --> 00:45:09,000 because you had too many distractions and now- 1058 00:45:09,083 --> 00:45:10,833 - Absolutely. - When we get rid of all this, 1059 00:45:10,958 --> 00:45:12,000 you won't have all the distractions. 1060 00:45:12,083 --> 00:45:13,667 You'll be able to focus on- 1061 00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:15,333 - I'm able to focus right now. - (laughs) Okay. 1062 00:45:15,417 --> 00:45:17,000 - [Dr. Tolin] Tim, how you feeling right now? 1063 00:45:17,125 --> 00:45:19,167 - Okay. - I'm gonna get rid of that 1064 00:45:19,292 --> 00:45:21,375 that I spent my money on to build for somebody 1065 00:45:21,458 --> 00:45:23,167 and never got to finish it. 1066 00:45:23,208 --> 00:45:26,167 - Can I put in Tim? Excuse me, here, I have an issue. 1067 00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:27,458 - Yes, ma'am. 1068 00:45:27,583 --> 00:45:29,292 - All I'm hearing about is all the money you've spent, 1069 00:45:29,375 --> 00:45:32,167 have you acknowledged what DeeDee's done to give you this, 1070 00:45:32,208 --> 00:45:33,917 to give you this home to support all of this? 1071 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,250 - To give me this home? 1072 00:45:35,333 --> 00:45:36,625 - Yeah. - Really? 1073 00:45:36,708 --> 00:45:37,875 - Have you acknowledged what DeeDee's done? 1074 00:45:37,958 --> 00:45:40,833 She has worked herself many, many jobs. 1075 00:45:40,917 --> 00:45:43,583 Well, it's not about just what you've done, 1076 00:45:43,667 --> 00:45:44,833 what you've paid for. 1077 00:45:44,875 --> 00:45:46,208 She's helped pay for this. 1078 00:45:46,333 --> 00:45:47,500 - I understand that. 1079 00:45:47,583 --> 00:45:49,708 - She thinks it's more important for y'all to be together 1080 00:45:49,792 --> 00:45:51,667 than for you to have all this garbage out here. 1081 00:45:51,667 --> 00:45:53,500 - I know I was just making a statement 1082 00:45:53,542 --> 00:45:56,083 that I spent money on this particular thing to build it 1083 00:45:56,208 --> 00:45:57,875 and all I had to do is put a motorin it. 1084 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,542 - How long ago did you do that, Tim? 1085 00:45:59,625 --> 00:46:00,917 - About seven months ago. 1086 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,167 - Okay, well, here it is. Seven months later. 1087 00:46:03,250 --> 00:46:05,292 How many of these cars are you really gonna fix? 1088 00:46:05,375 --> 00:46:07,708 The tractor, the tractor that you say you drive. 1089 00:46:07,833 --> 00:46:08,708 I don't get it. 1090 00:46:08,833 --> 00:46:10,083 I don't see it at all. 1091 00:46:10,167 --> 00:46:11,458 It's more important for you and DeeDee, 1092 00:46:11,542 --> 00:46:13,042 let's get moving here. 1093 00:46:13,125 --> 00:46:16,000 I don't think he understood my point was 1094 00:46:16,042 --> 00:46:17,458 why pay for all these things 1095 00:46:17,542 --> 00:46:20,000 when you could first contribute to the household, 1096 00:46:20,083 --> 00:46:23,042 get the life better, get the marriage better. 1097 00:46:23,125 --> 00:46:27,000 And that's what I think never really soaked in. 1098 00:46:27,083 --> 00:46:28,792 - I guess I just want to kind of point out 1099 00:46:28,875 --> 00:46:30,750 that this is one of those situations where, Tim, 1100 00:46:30,833 --> 00:46:32,333 it feels like you're getting a little defensive 1101 00:46:32,417 --> 00:46:33,833 and I understand it, 1102 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,625 and I understand the regret that comes from spending money 1103 00:46:36,708 --> 00:46:38,250 and then letting something go. 1104 00:46:38,375 --> 00:46:40,875 I think that that kind of regret is gonna come up a lot 1105 00:46:40,958 --> 00:46:43,208 during this process because you have spent money 1106 00:46:43,292 --> 00:46:45,167 and you're gonna have to let stuff go. 1107 00:46:46,292 --> 00:46:48,167 (dramatic music) 1108 00:46:56,125 --> 00:46:58,792 - I guess I haven't, I never even thought about it, really. 1109 00:46:59,917 --> 00:47:02,000 - I told Tim, you just need to make your mind up 1110 00:47:02,083 --> 00:47:04,792 if you want to keep all this or keep me. 1111 00:47:05,958 --> 00:47:09,250 - You should have gotten help from us a long time ago! 1112 00:47:09,333 --> 00:47:12,292 DeeDee, why did you think we weren't here for you? 1113 00:47:12,375 --> 00:47:13,333 Why? 1114 00:47:14,333 --> 00:47:16,250 - These have to go or else, remember? 1115 00:47:16,333 --> 00:47:18,000 They said everything that's still here 1116 00:47:18,042 --> 00:47:19,708 is going to need to be gone. 1117 00:47:19,792 --> 00:47:21,542 So please get rid of it. 1118 00:47:21,625 --> 00:47:23,167 - What is the deal? Why are you- 1119 00:47:23,292 --> 00:47:25,000 - Because they're gonna be stuck in the yard! 1120 00:47:25,042 --> 00:47:26,542 - They're not gonna be stuck in the yard. 1121 00:47:26,625 --> 00:47:28,458 - Please get rid of 'em! 1122 00:47:28,542 --> 00:47:31,250 (dramatic music) 1123 00:47:32,333 --> 00:47:35,208 (suspenseful music) 1124 00:47:40,333 --> 00:47:41,333 Tim? - Yeah. 1125 00:47:41,458 --> 00:47:43,042 - [DeeDee] You're not keeping this, are you? 1126 00:47:43,167 --> 00:47:45,000 - [Tim] Yes, I'm using it. - [DeeDee] For what? 1127 00:47:45,125 --> 00:47:46,458 - [Tim] For a hanging rack. 1128 00:47:46,542 --> 00:47:47,917 - [DeeDee] Remember, everything that's left here 1129 00:47:48,042 --> 00:47:49,542 is gonna be just stuck in the yard. 1130 00:47:49,625 --> 00:47:50,958 - [Tim] No, it's not gonna be stuck in the yard! 1131 00:47:51,042 --> 00:47:52,250 I know what I'm doing. 1132 00:47:53,875 --> 00:47:55,250 - [Dr. Tolin] Hey Tim, I heard some yelling. 1133 00:47:55,375 --> 00:47:56,458 What's up? 1134 00:47:56,542 --> 00:47:59,250 - She is, this is one of the big problems 1135 00:47:59,333 --> 00:48:01,667 that we've had for years, and years, and years. 1136 00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:03,667 Not just a couple months or a couple. 1137 00:48:03,708 --> 00:48:06,125 She is past stubborn when it comes, 1138 00:48:06,208 --> 00:48:11,250 when she goes like this and it doesn't matter what I say. 1139 00:48:11,333 --> 00:48:13,208 It doesn't matter what anybody says, 1140 00:48:13,292 --> 00:48:15,125 and I was warned about it when I married her, okay? 1141 00:48:15,125 --> 00:48:16,583 By her own family. 1142 00:48:16,667 --> 00:48:18,000 DeeDee is past stubborn. 1143 00:48:18,083 --> 00:48:19,167 So when she says something, 1144 00:48:19,208 --> 00:48:20,667 like she'll just keep harping on it 1145 00:48:20,792 --> 00:48:23,083 and keep saying it over and it just drives me up the wall. 1146 00:48:23,167 --> 00:48:24,500 - Well, that's calling the kettle black. 1147 00:48:24,542 --> 00:48:26,583 - [Dr. Tolin] What is it she's harping on right now? 1148 00:48:26,667 --> 00:48:28,833 - I answered her three times for what that was for. 1149 00:48:28,875 --> 00:48:30,500 - Okay. 1150 00:48:30,542 --> 00:48:32,000 - It doesn't matter what it's for 'cause she says it's junk. 1151 00:48:32,083 --> 00:48:33,000 That's what it is. 1152 00:48:33,083 --> 00:48:34,458 You know, and that pisses me off. 1153 00:48:34,542 --> 00:48:35,417 - Okay. 1154 00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:36,708 - And that's the problem we've had 1155 00:48:36,792 --> 00:48:38,833 from the day we said I do. 1156 00:48:38,875 --> 00:48:40,792 - So you don't like being told it's junk? 1157 00:48:40,875 --> 00:48:42,500 - It's not, that's, I'm gonna use that. 1158 00:48:42,542 --> 00:48:43,958 - Okay. - Yeah, I am. 1159 00:48:44,042 --> 00:48:46,167 - And I told her that like three times and she- 1160 00:48:46,250 --> 00:48:47,708 - [Dr. Tolin] What is that, a bed frame? 1161 00:48:47,792 --> 00:48:49,250 - It's a motorized front. 1162 00:48:49,375 --> 00:48:51,333 It's been sitting back here for who knows how long and- 1163 00:48:51,375 --> 00:48:53,333 - [Tim] I just got it a few months ago. 1164 00:48:53,375 --> 00:48:55,333 - So let me just remind you, Tim. 1165 00:48:55,333 --> 00:48:56,292 - Ugh! 1166 00:48:56,375 --> 00:48:58,000 - So remember the very first time we met? 1167 00:48:58,042 --> 00:49:00,208 - Yes. - When I came into the house. 1168 00:49:00,208 --> 00:49:01,375 - Gosh. 1169 00:49:01,458 --> 00:49:03,375 - And I said I want you to remember this conversation 1170 00:49:03,458 --> 00:49:06,250 and you remember what it was that I wanted you to remember? 1171 00:49:06,333 --> 00:49:07,708 - Yes, I do. 1172 00:49:07,792 --> 00:49:09,750 - [Dr. Tolin] That the marriage is more important, right? 1173 00:49:09,875 --> 00:49:11,125 - [Tim] Sure, it is. 1174 00:49:11,208 --> 00:49:13,667 - What's at stake is the marriage splitting up 1175 00:49:13,708 --> 00:49:14,833 that I want you, 1176 00:49:14,875 --> 00:49:16,042 I'm not saying what you should do 1177 00:49:16,125 --> 00:49:18,000 with that particular item or not, 1178 00:49:18,125 --> 00:49:19,792 but I always want you to put the marriage first. 1179 00:49:19,875 --> 00:49:23,458 Recognize that you've got to put your life back together 1180 00:49:23,542 --> 00:49:25,708 and it's not just about hanging onto the stuff. 1181 00:49:25,792 --> 00:49:28,042 - If it helps her out, once again, 1182 00:49:28,167 --> 00:49:30,708 I'll kowtow down and I'll get rid of it. 1183 00:49:30,792 --> 00:49:32,333 - It's not a kowtow and I really- 1184 00:49:32,333 --> 00:49:34,000 - It feels that way. - I know, I know. 1185 00:49:34,042 --> 00:49:35,958 I really want you to feel like this is your decision 1186 00:49:36,042 --> 00:49:37,833 that you're making the decision based 1187 00:49:37,917 --> 00:49:39,500 on what's best for your life. 1188 00:49:39,583 --> 00:49:41,833 - Well, it's my life 1189 00:49:41,875 --> 00:49:43,667 but it also has to include her too. 1190 00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:45,000 - Well, that's part of your life. 1191 00:49:45,083 --> 00:49:46,167 - Yeah. - That's part of your life. 1192 00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:47,250 Your marriage is part of your life. 1193 00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:49,000 - But hers is the same way, right? 1194 00:49:49,083 --> 00:49:51,625 It's supposed to be 100/100, not 50/50, right? 1195 00:49:51,708 --> 00:49:53,250 - That's right, it's 100/100. 1196 00:49:53,375 --> 00:49:55,125 But again, as you go through, 1197 00:49:55,208 --> 00:49:57,417 I just want you to think of the marriage. 1198 00:49:57,500 --> 00:49:59,125 Think of what's really important to you. 1199 00:49:59,208 --> 00:50:01,375 Remember that the marriage is more important 1200 00:50:01,458 --> 00:50:02,792 than anything on this property, right? 1201 00:50:02,875 --> 00:50:03,875 - Sure. 1202 00:50:03,958 --> 00:50:05,208 - That if your marriage splits up, 1203 00:50:05,292 --> 00:50:06,667 where does that leave you? 1204 00:50:06,750 --> 00:50:08,333 Not in a good place. 1205 00:50:08,417 --> 00:50:10,292 So I want you to just be thinking about that 1206 00:50:10,375 --> 00:50:11,417 as you go through, right? - Okay. 1207 00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:13,333 - Recognizing that you gotta prioritize 1208 00:50:13,417 --> 00:50:16,292 what's really important and it's not the stuff. 1209 00:50:17,125 --> 00:50:18,500 Not surprisingly, 1210 00:50:18,542 --> 00:50:20,167 there were some times that Tim wanted to hang on 1211 00:50:20,292 --> 00:50:22,000 to more stuff than he really needed. 1212 00:50:22,083 --> 00:50:24,500 That's characteristic of hoarding disorder. 1213 00:50:24,542 --> 00:50:27,875 So I just encouraged him gently to dig a little deeper, 1214 00:50:27,958 --> 00:50:29,417 to try a little harder 1215 00:50:29,542 --> 00:50:31,583 and see if there was more that he could get rid of. 1216 00:50:31,667 --> 00:50:33,000 And there was. 1217 00:50:33,125 --> 00:50:34,500 - Well, heck, let's get rid of the whole pile there. 1218 00:50:34,542 --> 00:50:36,333 How 'bout that? - If you feel up to it, sure. 1219 00:50:36,417 --> 00:50:37,917 - I do. - All right. Way to go, Tim. 1220 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,292 - Great. 1221 00:50:41,375 --> 00:50:44,583 (intense music) (trucks revving) 1222 00:50:54,875 --> 00:50:56,458 (metal clanging) 1223 00:51:10,208 --> 00:51:12,583 (tense piano music) 1224 00:51:17,042 --> 00:51:18,167 - [Dr. Tolin] Good afternoon, Debby. 1225 00:51:18,208 --> 00:51:19,792 Good to have you here. - Yes, thank you. 1226 00:51:19,792 --> 00:51:22,375 - I'm glad you could join us. So, tell me what's going on. 1227 00:51:22,458 --> 00:51:25,333 - We were a little surprised by what we saw with the house. 1228 00:51:25,375 --> 00:51:26,208 - Yes. 1229 00:51:26,292 --> 00:51:27,833 - Since DeeDee told us it was a mess 1230 00:51:27,958 --> 00:51:29,417 and she couldn't live there. 1231 00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:32,292 - I didn't think I downplayed how bad it looked 1232 00:51:32,375 --> 00:51:35,333 for them to almost pass out when they went in there. 1233 00:51:35,417 --> 00:51:37,000 - DeeDee, I'm not upset with you. 1234 00:51:37,125 --> 00:51:39,042 Stop being like this. I'm not, I'm on your side. 1235 00:51:39,125 --> 00:51:40,542 - I know. - Remember that. 1236 00:51:40,667 --> 00:51:43,708 But when you have all night to reflect on what you saw 1237 00:51:43,792 --> 00:51:48,083 and what happened, I'm worse today than I was yesterday. 1238 00:51:48,167 --> 00:51:49,917 - Worse how? 1239 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,542 - I've got such anger and I don't like having this anger. 1240 00:51:54,667 --> 00:51:56,000 - Who are you angry at? 1241 00:51:56,042 --> 00:51:57,625 - [Debby] I'm mad at Tim. - Yeah. 1242 00:51:57,708 --> 00:51:58,833 - That he let this go 1243 00:51:58,875 --> 00:52:02,375 and he didn't let his wife live in her house. 1244 00:52:02,458 --> 00:52:04,750 - Yeah, it is maddening, isn't it? 1245 00:52:04,833 --> 00:52:06,208 - It's maddening, yes, it is. 1246 00:52:06,292 --> 00:52:08,292 - It's very hard to see a loved one 1247 00:52:08,375 --> 00:52:12,000 or the spouse of a loved one deteriorate in this way. 1248 00:52:12,083 --> 00:52:13,833 - Yes, it is. 1249 00:52:13,958 --> 00:52:15,500 - And at the same time, 1250 00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:17,833 I think it's important to recognize that he's not well. 1251 00:52:17,875 --> 00:52:21,542 - I don't understand that illness where it is so bad 1252 00:52:21,625 --> 00:52:24,417 that you don't want your wife to be with you 1253 00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:28,542 or you can't quit bringing stuff in. 1254 00:52:29,875 --> 00:52:32,708 Is there a point where you say, I've brought enough in? 1255 00:52:32,792 --> 00:52:34,917 - It's a little bit like an addiction in some ways, right? 1256 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,708 That you start prizing the drug over the people around you. 1257 00:52:38,792 --> 00:52:40,500 And that's kind of what happens in hoarding, 1258 00:52:40,583 --> 00:52:43,292 is that the person starts putting the stuff 1259 00:52:43,417 --> 00:52:47,333 above their wife, above their marriage, above everybody. 1260 00:52:47,375 --> 00:52:49,083 - Then how does he get well? 1261 00:52:49,167 --> 00:52:51,292 - He's doing it. I mean, I think that's the piece 1262 00:52:51,375 --> 00:52:53,667 that we all need to recognize is that he's doing it. 1263 00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:56,167 He's recognizing that he can let go of things. 1264 00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:58,167 And of course I'm gonna set him up 1265 00:52:58,250 --> 00:52:59,875 with some therapy after this as well 1266 00:52:59,958 --> 00:53:02,625 to make sure that he keeps this momentum going. 1267 00:53:02,708 --> 00:53:04,208 - I tried to tell DeeDee 1268 00:53:04,333 --> 00:53:07,750 that instead of building up your anger, 1269 00:53:07,833 --> 00:53:10,292 like she's been able to deal with it for years. 1270 00:53:10,375 --> 00:53:11,500 - [Dr. Tolin] Yeah. 1271 00:53:11,667 --> 00:53:13,083 - This was hit on me and Donna yesterday. 1272 00:53:13,208 --> 00:53:14,625 - [Dr. Tolin] This was just dumped on you, sure. 1273 00:53:14,708 --> 00:53:17,083 - And so it's like a tornado or a volcano. 1274 00:53:17,083 --> 00:53:18,208 - You know, and it's really normal 1275 00:53:18,333 --> 00:53:19,750 to have that angry reaction. 1276 00:53:19,833 --> 00:53:21,000 I totally get it. 1277 00:53:21,083 --> 00:53:22,583 We also kind of need to recognize 1278 00:53:22,667 --> 00:53:25,375 that the person hoarding is not in a good state of mind 1279 00:53:25,458 --> 00:53:28,792 and that his judgment has been affected by this disorder 1280 00:53:28,875 --> 00:53:30,667 and that he needs our help 1281 00:53:30,750 --> 00:53:33,500 to get his judgment back in order and I think he will. 1282 00:53:33,583 --> 00:53:34,875 - Okay, thank you, thank you. 1283 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,875 - [Dr. Tolin] Okay. - I appreciate that advice. 1284 00:53:38,667 --> 00:53:40,500 It's very good to be able to talk 1285 00:53:40,542 --> 00:53:44,042 about the hoarding situation and what was going on, 1286 00:53:44,125 --> 00:53:46,250 but I think that it's gonna take me 1287 00:53:46,333 --> 00:53:48,958 some time to really get over this. 1288 00:53:49,042 --> 00:53:50,167 - That's a keep. 1289 00:53:50,208 --> 00:53:51,792 - [Worker] Keep? - Yes. 1290 00:53:51,875 --> 00:53:54,208 (dramatic music) 1291 00:53:58,083 --> 00:53:58,875 (slow bluesy music) 1292 00:54:02,833 --> 00:54:05,333 - All right, hold that open. I'm gonna get all this. 1293 00:54:05,417 --> 00:54:07,250 I hope a snake doesn't bite me. 1294 00:54:17,125 --> 00:54:20,083 - Family members, thanks so much for stopping your work. 1295 00:54:20,167 --> 00:54:23,625 We have the junkies here, they are auto recycling company. 1296 00:54:23,708 --> 00:54:27,042 We've got Wes, Anne Marie, Brandon, who are here. 1297 00:54:27,167 --> 00:54:28,542 Welcome, thank you for being here. 1298 00:54:28,625 --> 00:54:31,000 - Thank you for having us. - All right. 1299 00:54:31,083 --> 00:54:33,333 And we have a list of all the cars 1300 00:54:33,417 --> 00:54:35,667 that are for sale over here, right? 1301 00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:38,667 They're in red with dollar signs next to it. 1302 00:54:38,708 --> 00:54:42,417 So our first one that we want to look at 1303 00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:45,375 or consider is this Trans Am. 1304 00:54:45,542 --> 00:54:49,333 - With it, the condition I'd probably be doing around $250. 1305 00:54:49,417 --> 00:54:51,000 - [Tim] That'll work. - All right, very good. 1306 00:54:51,083 --> 00:54:53,000 - Thank you. - And that, Tim? 1307 00:54:53,042 --> 00:54:54,167 Works for you? - Absolutely. 1308 00:54:54,250 --> 00:54:55,500 - Good, good. 1309 00:54:55,542 --> 00:54:58,458 The next one up is this red Corvette over here. 1310 00:54:58,542 --> 00:55:01,417 - Ah, ah! - Joking. 1311 00:55:01,417 --> 00:55:03,167 - I was gonna go with it. 1312 00:55:03,250 --> 00:55:05,375 - (laughs) Do you wanna sell it at this point? 1313 00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:07,042 - Not right now, no. 1314 00:55:07,125 --> 00:55:11,458 - All right, so the next closest one we've got the Dodge RV. 1315 00:55:11,542 --> 00:55:14,708 Come on in, Wes, Anne Marie, Brandon, check it out. 1316 00:55:19,458 --> 00:55:21,125 - Something like this, just being, 1317 00:55:21,125 --> 00:55:22,333 because there's a whole lot of trash, 1318 00:55:22,417 --> 00:55:24,708 the RV and the business I'm in, 1319 00:55:24,792 --> 00:55:26,917 I'd probably only do around 200 bucks on it. 1320 00:55:26,917 --> 00:55:27,958 - That'd be fine. 1321 00:55:28,042 --> 00:55:30,167 - Thank you, so we're going up here next. 1322 00:55:30,250 --> 00:55:32,083 - I'd do 250 apiece on these. 1323 00:55:32,208 --> 00:55:33,458 - All right, that's fine. 1324 00:55:33,542 --> 00:55:35,708 - How much is it? - I'd do 250 on it. 1325 00:55:37,375 --> 00:55:39,625 - It's got- - I'd do 250 on that. 1326 00:55:39,708 --> 00:55:41,500 - Sounds good. - All right. 1327 00:55:41,542 --> 00:55:44,083 - We have items that you are going to sell 1328 00:55:44,208 --> 00:55:46,417 that weren't even on the sell list. 1329 00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:48,000 - Surprise, surprise! 1330 00:55:48,083 --> 00:55:50,375 (group cheering) 1331 00:55:50,375 --> 00:55:52,333 - And this one says the transmission's not in it. 1332 00:55:52,417 --> 00:55:54,333 - It's right there in the back. - It's in the back? 1333 00:55:54,417 --> 00:55:56,750 - Yeah. - Okay. I'd do like, 225. 1334 00:55:56,833 --> 00:55:58,125 - I'm gonna hang onto that one. 1335 00:55:58,208 --> 00:55:59,667 - Hang on? - Yeah, for now. 1336 00:55:59,708 --> 00:56:01,333 - 250 on that. - I can do that. 1337 00:56:01,375 --> 00:56:03,500 - I'd do 200 on that. - Right. 1338 00:56:03,625 --> 00:56:04,875 - [Dorothy] White Maxima. 1339 00:56:04,958 --> 00:56:07,500 - On this one, I'll probably do 200 on it. 1340 00:56:07,583 --> 00:56:08,833 - That sounds like a good deal. 1341 00:56:08,917 --> 00:56:10,500 - [Dorothy] Dr. Tolin, how we doing? 1342 00:56:10,542 --> 00:56:12,000 - Tim, I'm really impressed. 1343 00:56:12,083 --> 00:56:13,833 You're digging deep and you're letting go of a lot of stuff. 1344 00:56:13,917 --> 00:56:15,917 I think that's terrific, so good job. 1345 00:56:16,042 --> 00:56:17,042 Keep it up. 1346 00:56:17,208 --> 00:56:19,333 (upbeat country music) 1347 00:56:19,417 --> 00:56:20,917 - I know this one's probably worth more value 1348 00:56:21,042 --> 00:56:23,167 to probably someone that's into classics on these. 1349 00:56:23,250 --> 00:56:24,458 - You're right. 1350 00:56:24,542 --> 00:56:26,333 - I'd probably only do around 200 bucks. 1351 00:56:26,375 --> 00:56:28,500 - No, I can't do that. Not for that one. 1352 00:56:28,583 --> 00:56:30,042 - Well, you got rid of one other one. 1353 00:56:30,125 --> 00:56:31,333 - Right. 1354 00:56:31,458 --> 00:56:32,708 - Then this would count as one of your seven. 1355 00:56:32,792 --> 00:56:34,125 - Yeah. 1356 00:56:34,208 --> 00:56:36,375 - Okay. We've got 14 cars. What does that all add up to? 1357 00:56:36,458 --> 00:56:38,250 - It's gonna be 2,825. 1358 00:56:38,333 --> 00:56:40,917 - Okay. 14 vehicles, 2,825. 1359 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,000 Wes, Brandon, Anne Marie, this has been fantastic. 1360 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,542 - Yes, ma'am. - And thank you for agreeing 1361 00:56:45,667 --> 00:56:47,500 to take 'em all away while we're here. 1362 00:56:47,583 --> 00:56:50,500 - Yes, ma'am. Thank y'all. (group cheering) 1363 00:56:50,583 --> 00:56:52,333 - She'll probably wanna hug you or something. 1364 00:56:52,375 --> 00:56:53,833 - [DeeDee] Thank you, yes, appreciate it! 1365 00:56:53,917 --> 00:56:56,042 - Tim and DeeDee, how does that make you feel? 1366 00:56:56,125 --> 00:56:58,708 - I'm glad that Tim's able to part with so much. 1367 00:56:58,792 --> 00:57:03,000 I didn't think it would happen, but he's progressing. 1368 00:57:03,125 --> 00:57:04,333 - All right, yeah. 1369 00:57:04,458 --> 00:57:06,583 - And look how happy Tim is to hear you say that. 1370 00:57:06,667 --> 00:57:08,083 - Yeah, that's right. - Good. 1371 00:57:08,167 --> 00:57:10,333 - I'm glad to hear that. - Yeah, he needs that. 1372 00:57:10,417 --> 00:57:11,792 - I need that, yeah. - We all need that. 1373 00:57:11,875 --> 00:57:13,375 - Good job, Tim. - We all do. 1374 00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:15,667 - You get a round of applause. - Give me a round. 1375 00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:18,167 - One thing that happens in a lot of troubled marriages, 1376 00:57:18,208 --> 00:57:21,292 with or without hoarding, is that the two spouses 1377 00:57:21,375 --> 00:57:26,500 get into a negative, coercive cycle of influencing each other 1378 00:57:26,542 --> 00:57:29,917 and it never works and it just drives them apart. 1379 00:57:29,917 --> 00:57:33,667 If the couple can learn to positively reinforce each other, 1380 00:57:33,792 --> 00:57:36,667 that'll go a long way toward healing a troubled marriage. 1381 00:57:36,750 --> 00:57:39,000 - Well, I'm so proud of you there. 1382 00:57:39,042 --> 00:57:40,542 I am, I'm proud of you. 1383 00:57:40,542 --> 00:57:42,000 You're sweaty. 1384 00:57:42,042 --> 00:57:44,583 (bluesy country music) 1385 00:57:49,458 --> 00:57:52,083 - [Worker] One, two, three! (items clattering) 1386 00:58:08,833 --> 00:58:10,625 - Good morning, everybody. - [Group] Good morning. 1387 00:58:10,708 --> 00:58:12,750 - Did we get sleep last night? 1388 00:58:12,833 --> 00:58:15,458 - Yes. - A little bit by Tim, okay. 1389 00:58:15,542 --> 00:58:17,042 Everybody else was worn out, all right. 1390 00:58:17,125 --> 00:58:18,750 We had an extraordinary day yesterday 1391 00:58:18,833 --> 00:58:21,667 because you went through 46 cars 1392 00:58:21,708 --> 00:58:23,542 and I think you kept seven of them, right? 1393 00:58:23,542 --> 00:58:24,708 - Yes, ma'am. 1394 00:58:24,792 --> 00:58:26,500 - We had the tires removed before that. 1395 00:58:26,542 --> 00:58:27,708 Up to this point, 1396 00:58:27,875 --> 00:58:30,750 we've gotten rid of nine tons worth of stuff. 1397 00:58:30,833 --> 00:58:32,625 Today is the big test. 1398 00:58:32,708 --> 00:58:34,500 The third day is really hard. 1399 00:58:34,583 --> 00:58:36,042 I'm really concerned about today 1400 00:58:36,125 --> 00:58:41,375 because I overheard Donna, and Debby, and DeeDee talking 1401 00:58:41,458 --> 00:58:44,500 about how they plan to clear out the house. 1402 00:58:44,583 --> 00:58:46,000 And you know what they said? 1403 00:58:46,083 --> 00:58:47,833 Trash it all! 1404 00:58:47,917 --> 00:58:51,375 These car parts are just like his golden child or children. 1405 00:58:51,458 --> 00:58:53,708 I don't know what's going to happen here. 1406 00:58:53,792 --> 00:58:56,000 So, because it's going to be a difficult day, 1407 00:58:56,042 --> 00:58:57,625 I thought I'd toss it to you first 1408 00:58:57,708 --> 00:58:58,833 and then I'll go over the plan. 1409 00:58:58,875 --> 00:59:00,417 - Sounds good, sounds good. - Okay. 1410 00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:01,833 - Well, Tim, I'm really curious 1411 00:59:01,875 --> 00:59:03,417 to know how you're feeling today. 1412 00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:06,417 - I'm tired but I'm doing well. 1413 00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:07,583 - How are your spirits? 1414 00:59:07,708 --> 00:59:09,500 How are you feeling about this process? 1415 00:59:09,583 --> 00:59:11,667 - I'm glad that it's continued on. 1416 00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:13,833 I'm kinda apprehensive about today though. 1417 00:59:13,958 --> 00:59:15,125 - [Dorothy] What did you say, hun? 1418 00:59:15,208 --> 00:59:16,667 - I'm a little apprehensive about today. 1419 00:59:16,750 --> 00:59:18,833 - What are you feeling apprehensive about? 1420 00:59:21,125 --> 00:59:23,125 - (vocalizing) Into a bag, "Get that outta here." 1421 00:59:23,208 --> 00:59:24,833 "You don't need it." That. 1422 00:59:24,875 --> 00:59:26,667 - Who would be saying that to you? 1423 00:59:26,750 --> 00:59:28,875 - [DeeDee] Exactly. (laughs) 1424 00:59:28,958 --> 00:59:30,000 - That's right. - The ladies. 1425 00:59:30,083 --> 00:59:31,792 - That's why we have help here, Tim. 1426 00:59:31,875 --> 00:59:33,833 - Tell me what your concern is about that, Tim. 1427 00:59:33,917 --> 00:59:35,792 If they they said get rid of it. 1428 00:59:35,875 --> 00:59:37,583 - "I don't know what that is, 1429 00:59:37,667 --> 00:59:40,000 then it's not worth anything to me." 1430 00:59:40,083 --> 00:59:42,292 - So the concern is they may not know 1431 00:59:42,375 --> 00:59:43,833 what it's worth to you? 1432 00:59:43,917 --> 00:59:45,917 - Yes, or why it's important. 1433 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,833 Because it's not important to me, then why is it important? 1434 00:59:48,875 --> 00:59:49,958 You need to get rid of it. 1435 00:59:50,042 --> 00:59:51,667 - But consider we- - You know. 1436 00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:53,250 I don't need to consider it. 1437 00:59:53,333 --> 00:59:54,542 I probably am standing here 1438 00:59:54,542 --> 00:59:56,042 for the reason that I considered all of this. 1439 00:59:56,125 --> 00:59:58,833 - Okay, that we have to pretty much get rid of all that 1440 00:59:58,958 --> 01:00:01,708 so we can have a clean house. 1441 01:00:02,958 --> 01:00:04,708 - You seem like you're a little upset 1442 01:00:04,792 --> 01:00:06,042 by hearing what DeeDee's saying. 1443 01:00:06,125 --> 01:00:07,167 Tell me about that. 1444 01:00:07,292 --> 01:00:08,917 (Tim sighs) 1445 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,167 Talk to me. 1446 01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:15,000 - If someone's definition to me about caring 1447 01:00:15,083 --> 01:00:18,125 is also defined by how much I'm willing to give up. 1448 01:00:18,208 --> 01:00:19,500 - Yeah. 1449 01:00:19,583 --> 01:00:21,125 - And get rid of it, period, that means gone. 1450 01:00:22,250 --> 01:00:23,708 No question, just gone. 1451 01:00:23,792 --> 01:00:26,583 - It sounds to me, Tim, like your concerns this morning 1452 01:00:26,667 --> 01:00:27,917 are not just about the stuff, 1453 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,958 but are also about the relationship. 1454 01:00:30,083 --> 01:00:31,500 - That's caused a lot of problems. 1455 01:00:31,583 --> 01:00:33,583 - Tell me your concern about the relationship. 1456 01:00:33,667 --> 01:00:34,833 What worries you here? 1457 01:00:34,917 --> 01:00:36,417 - See, I care about what she thinks. 1458 01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:37,417 - [Dr. Tolin] Yeah. 1459 01:00:37,417 --> 01:00:38,667 - Okay, then you'll care 1460 01:00:38,792 --> 01:00:42,375 that I mean more than your belongings. 1461 01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:43,875 - Yes! - Okay. 1462 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,500 - I mean, you know what? - That's just material stuff. 1463 01:00:45,583 --> 01:00:46,500 - Yeah, exactly. 1464 01:00:46,625 --> 01:00:47,875 - Good, let's keep that in mind. 1465 01:00:47,958 --> 01:00:49,375 - Let's do keep that in mind. 1466 01:00:49,458 --> 01:00:50,625 - Okay. - Because that stuff, 1467 01:00:50,750 --> 01:00:52,083 there's a lot of stuff that you don't even know 1468 01:00:52,167 --> 01:00:54,000 what it's for or how to use it, or why it's important. 1469 01:00:54,042 --> 01:00:56,750 - So, all right. I definitely hear this part. 1470 01:00:56,833 --> 01:00:58,333 But Tim, tell me what's troubling you 1471 01:00:58,417 --> 01:00:59,917 about the relationship right now? 1472 01:01:00,042 --> 01:01:02,625 - That combative thing. (DeeDee laughs) 1473 01:01:02,708 --> 01:01:04,375 - You're concerned that it's combative. 1474 01:01:04,458 --> 01:01:05,833 - It is and I don't like it. 1475 01:01:05,917 --> 01:01:07,375 - [Dr. Tolin] We don't want it to be combative. 1476 01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:08,458 - No, not at all. 1477 01:01:08,583 --> 01:01:09,917 - [Dr. Tolin] Who's combating you? 1478 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:11,792 DeeDee. 1479 01:01:11,875 --> 01:01:15,667 - I'll say she's part of the, yeah. 1480 01:01:15,792 --> 01:01:17,375 The attitude, I guess. 1481 01:01:17,458 --> 01:01:18,750 - Attitude? - Yes, sir. 1482 01:01:18,833 --> 01:01:21,083 - What's the attitude that bothers you? 1483 01:01:22,458 --> 01:01:25,458 (pensive piano music) 1484 01:01:30,875 --> 01:01:36,042 (bluesy country music) 1485 01:01:44,208 --> 01:01:47,125 - I think some things are appropriate to discuss it, 1486 01:01:47,208 --> 01:01:50,583 and even in a close group of family and some aren't. 1487 01:01:50,708 --> 01:01:51,875 - I understand. 1488 01:01:52,042 --> 01:01:54,333 - And that's my concern, is to protect her dignity. 1489 01:01:54,375 --> 01:01:55,458 - That's fine. 1490 01:01:56,875 --> 01:02:02,083 - For me to take a situation or this going on 1491 01:02:02,208 --> 01:02:05,333 and belittle her any way, 'cause she's my wife. 1492 01:02:05,417 --> 01:02:06,917 - Yeah. 1493 01:02:07,042 --> 01:02:09,958 - Whether we're best buddies or not and I won't do that. 1494 01:02:10,042 --> 01:02:10,833 - Yeah. 1495 01:02:10,875 --> 01:02:12,708 Tim is having a hard time. 1496 01:02:12,792 --> 01:02:15,500 He appears like he's on the verge of tears. 1497 01:02:15,625 --> 01:02:17,125 Something is clearly bothering him, 1498 01:02:17,208 --> 01:02:19,542 but he doesn't seem to want to tell me about it 1499 01:02:19,708 --> 01:02:22,500 in front of DeeDee and her sisters. 1500 01:02:22,583 --> 01:02:24,875 So maybe you and I can have a one-on-one conversation? 1501 01:02:24,875 --> 01:02:25,833 - Yeah, I think that'd be better. 1502 01:02:25,958 --> 01:02:27,417 - Yeah, I'd be happy to do that. 1503 01:02:27,500 --> 01:02:28,625 - Okay. - I'd be happy. 1504 01:02:28,708 --> 01:02:30,000 - It's all right. - [Tim] I know it is. 1505 01:02:30,042 --> 01:02:31,500 - You're gonna have all this help 1506 01:02:31,542 --> 01:02:33,333 that will help us start all over. 1507 01:02:33,375 --> 01:02:35,667 - Yeah, and Tim, I just want you to see that DeeDee 1508 01:02:35,792 --> 01:02:38,083 and Donna and Debby are here to help you. 1509 01:02:38,167 --> 01:02:39,500 - I appreciate that. - Yeah. 1510 01:02:39,542 --> 01:02:40,667 And I'll keep an eye on things. 1511 01:02:40,792 --> 01:02:42,250 I don't want this to be combative. 1512 01:02:42,333 --> 01:02:44,958 I don't want them to tell you to throw all your stuff out, 1513 01:02:45,042 --> 01:02:46,667 that this should be supportive 1514 01:02:46,708 --> 01:02:48,375 and I want you to feel that support. 1515 01:02:49,583 --> 01:02:51,083 I've asked Tim about how he's feeling, 1516 01:02:51,167 --> 01:02:53,042 but I have realized I haven't asked you, DeeDee, 1517 01:02:53,125 --> 01:02:54,333 and you Donna, and you Debby, 1518 01:02:54,458 --> 01:02:56,667 how are you feeling right now? 1519 01:02:56,750 --> 01:02:58,917 - Well, I feel a lot of concern 1520 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,667 that we're not gonna get very far. 1521 01:03:00,708 --> 01:03:01,958 - So you're concerned? 1522 01:03:01,958 --> 01:03:02,875 - [Donna] Yeah. - Okay. 1523 01:03:02,958 --> 01:03:04,292 - You're the professionals, 1524 01:03:04,375 --> 01:03:07,583 and that I've got total confidence in y'all, 1525 01:03:07,667 --> 01:03:09,750 and y'all will reason this out. 1526 01:03:09,875 --> 01:03:11,417 So, you know, I know. 1527 01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:13,875 I feel like we have a lot to do and we need get started. 1528 01:03:13,958 --> 01:03:14,750 - Debby, how about you? 1529 01:03:14,875 --> 01:03:16,333 I know we've talked in the past 1530 01:03:16,417 --> 01:03:18,292 and there have been moments when you felt fired up. 1531 01:03:18,375 --> 01:03:19,625 How are you feeling now? 1532 01:03:19,708 --> 01:03:20,875 (DeeDee and Tim laugh) 1533 01:03:21,042 --> 01:03:22,833 - Tim, we do want to try and help you with this. 1534 01:03:22,917 --> 01:03:24,167 - [Tim] I appreciate that. 1535 01:03:24,208 --> 01:03:26,292 - But please understand my concern for DeeDee 1536 01:03:26,375 --> 01:03:28,208 is that she has a house 1537 01:03:28,333 --> 01:03:31,708 that is completely clean and livable. 1538 01:03:31,792 --> 01:03:33,958 - I agree with that. - That's my goal. 1539 01:03:34,042 --> 01:03:37,125 I'll feel better once I see some things cleaned up. 1540 01:03:37,208 --> 01:03:38,917 - Tim, I think you need to understand, 1541 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,792 we're here 'cause we do respect you. 1542 01:03:40,875 --> 01:03:42,125 We respect this marriage. 1543 01:03:42,208 --> 01:03:46,792 We love y'all, but we know this can't continue. 1544 01:03:46,875 --> 01:03:48,125 - No, no. 1545 01:03:48,208 --> 01:03:51,292 - But we are here for you. - Thank you. 1546 01:03:51,375 --> 01:03:53,458 - But honestly, I wanna just get a bag 1547 01:03:53,542 --> 01:03:54,792 and just sweep it away. 1548 01:03:54,792 --> 01:03:57,500 And I'm not gonna lie, I don't like clutter. 1549 01:03:57,583 --> 01:03:58,917 I walk in there 1550 01:03:59,042 --> 01:04:01,042 and I think of my sister having to be around that. 1551 01:04:01,125 --> 01:04:03,625 And even you being around that, it's unhealthy. 1552 01:04:03,708 --> 01:04:05,458 - Yeah. - It's not safe. 1553 01:04:05,542 --> 01:04:07,542 And so, yeah. 1554 01:04:07,667 --> 01:04:10,375 I want to just clean it. 1555 01:04:10,458 --> 01:04:13,958 I'm really having to restrain myself. 1556 01:04:14,042 --> 01:04:16,000 - But it's understandable that you would feel that way. 1557 01:04:16,042 --> 01:04:17,667 - Yeah, it's true. - I get it, I get it. 1558 01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:20,000 We're not gonna do that but I understand the instinct. 1559 01:04:20,125 --> 01:04:21,917 I definitely understand the instinct. 1560 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,542 Well, Dorothy, so tell us a little bit 1561 01:04:23,667 --> 01:04:24,875 about what your plan is today. 1562 01:04:24,958 --> 01:04:26,333 - I've made a schematic, literally, 1563 01:04:26,417 --> 01:04:28,667 so people know where they're going to be 1564 01:04:28,708 --> 01:04:30,292 and what they're going to be doing 1565 01:04:30,375 --> 01:04:32,875 and how we're going to get around 1566 01:04:32,875 --> 01:04:35,708 that feeling, Tim, of worry, 1567 01:04:35,792 --> 01:04:40,917 like it's all going to trash, because he does, in my mind, 1568 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,667 need to take a look at everything that's there. 1569 01:04:43,750 --> 01:04:46,458 Now, can he look at 500,000 pieces of 1570 01:04:46,542 --> 01:04:47,750 things that are in there? 1571 01:04:47,833 --> 01:04:49,375 Car parts, home things, home goods. 1572 01:04:49,375 --> 01:04:52,000 No, but we are going to do some sorting. 1573 01:04:52,042 --> 01:04:53,333 So here's how it goes. 1574 01:04:53,458 --> 01:04:55,500 Tim, you're gonna be here making decisions. 1575 01:04:55,625 --> 01:04:58,167 If the item is bigger than the size of your head, 1576 01:04:58,208 --> 01:05:01,958 you present it to Tim and it's gonna go one, two, or there. 1577 01:05:02,042 --> 01:05:06,042 And then all the little things gonna go into two piles. 1578 01:05:07,083 --> 01:05:10,167 The first one is all car parts 1579 01:05:10,208 --> 01:05:13,417 and the second one is all non-car parts. 1580 01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:14,750 That's it. 1581 01:05:14,833 --> 01:05:16,708 Thank you for taking time here. 1582 01:05:16,792 --> 01:05:18,792 We're gonna get started finally. 1583 01:05:18,792 --> 01:05:20,708 Get your motors running, let's go. 1584 01:05:20,833 --> 01:05:23,417 - Okay, thank you. - Let's go. 1585 01:05:23,500 --> 01:05:26,000 (intense music) 1586 01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:33,667 - Trash, all of it. 1587 01:05:33,792 --> 01:05:35,542 - Take it all over there. 1588 01:05:41,042 --> 01:05:43,208 - [Tim] That's trash, that can go as well. 1589 01:05:43,292 --> 01:05:45,125 - [Worker] This stuff? - All of it. 1590 01:05:45,208 --> 01:05:47,500 - [Worker] All of it? All right. - De muerte. 1591 01:05:47,667 --> 01:05:49,958 (intense music) 1592 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,875 I'm trying man, it's hard to get rid of 1593 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,292 that spare caliper for a wheel. (sobs) 1594 01:06:00,375 --> 01:06:01,333 No. 1595 01:06:01,417 --> 01:06:02,833 - Oh, geez, I thought you were serious! 1596 01:06:02,917 --> 01:06:04,333 My gosh. 1597 01:06:04,375 --> 01:06:07,042 (dramatic music) 1598 01:06:15,875 --> 01:06:17,500 - I know from this morning. 1599 01:06:17,625 --> 01:06:19,708 I mean, it really seemed like something was troubling you 1600 01:06:19,792 --> 01:06:21,500 and you wanted to talk one on one. 1601 01:06:21,625 --> 01:06:23,667 - I just didn't want to put her on the spot for everybody. 1602 01:06:23,750 --> 01:06:25,208 - Understood, understood. 1603 01:06:25,208 --> 01:06:28,167 Can you tell me what's going on? What's on your mind? 1604 01:06:28,208 --> 01:06:31,500 - I've had 11 kisses on my cheek. 1605 01:06:31,542 --> 01:06:33,042 - Hmm. 1606 01:06:33,167 --> 01:06:36,333 - In seven years. - [Dr. Tolin] Wow. 1607 01:06:36,458 --> 01:06:38,500 - I haven't had a meal with her in three years. 1608 01:06:38,542 --> 01:06:39,625 - Yeah. 1609 01:06:39,708 --> 01:06:41,417 - Plus if I might do a little demonstration. 1610 01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:42,542 - Yeah, sure. 1611 01:06:42,625 --> 01:06:43,667 - Well, like that. 1612 01:06:44,750 --> 01:06:47,667 - [Dr. Tolin] Meaning what? - That's me down there. 1613 01:06:47,708 --> 01:06:48,667 - I see. 1614 01:06:48,750 --> 01:06:50,208 That's where you, 1615 01:06:50,292 --> 01:06:52,042 that's how you feel is that you're down on the ground. 1616 01:06:52,125 --> 01:06:53,250 - That's the way she treated me. 1617 01:06:53,333 --> 01:06:54,250 - She treated you like you're low. 1618 01:06:54,375 --> 01:06:55,583 - I just let her talk that way. 1619 01:06:55,667 --> 01:06:57,292 So she got used to being able to do it 1620 01:06:57,375 --> 01:06:58,833 and I mean, I'm not gonna say anything. 1621 01:06:58,958 --> 01:07:00,750 - [Dr. Tolin] Yeah. - Or do anything to her. 1622 01:07:00,833 --> 01:07:02,167 - You know, it's interesting because 1623 01:07:02,250 --> 01:07:04,667 we've been talking so much about you having to change 1624 01:07:04,708 --> 01:07:07,792 and I appreciate that maybe DeeDee's gotta change too. 1625 01:07:07,875 --> 01:07:10,458 - We were gonna go to a marriage counselor, doctor. 1626 01:07:10,542 --> 01:07:11,792 - Yeah. 1627 01:07:11,875 --> 01:07:14,000 - But it's always been her 1628 01:07:14,083 --> 01:07:17,000 joining up with them and shooting at me. 1629 01:07:17,083 --> 01:07:18,167 There's nothing ever her fault. 1630 01:07:18,333 --> 01:07:19,542 - [Dr. Tolin] Like you're the bad guy. 1631 01:07:19,625 --> 01:07:21,458 - No, no, that's exactly what she thinks. 1632 01:07:21,542 --> 01:07:23,833 There's no equivocation about that whatsoever. 1633 01:07:23,875 --> 01:07:24,833 - Wow. 1634 01:07:24,917 --> 01:07:26,500 - She does not have a fault. 1635 01:07:26,542 --> 01:07:28,167 I'm the one that's got all the problems 1636 01:07:28,250 --> 01:07:30,917 and her problems are caused by me. 1637 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,000 - Hmm. - [Tim] And that's the truth. 1638 01:07:33,125 --> 01:07:35,083 - But really, she's checked out of this marriage 1639 01:07:35,167 --> 01:07:37,125 and she's not giving you the support and love- 1640 01:07:37,208 --> 01:07:39,500 - She cares about the dogs more than me. 1641 01:07:39,583 --> 01:07:40,792 - You think so? 1642 01:07:40,875 --> 01:07:43,083 - She used to come in the house or call me and say, 1643 01:07:43,167 --> 01:07:45,458 "Have you fed and watered the dogs? 1644 01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:48,667 Well, you need to 'cause they need eating." 1645 01:07:48,708 --> 01:07:51,000 - But no, "How are you doing?" - [Tim] Never. 1646 01:07:51,042 --> 01:07:52,958 - Nothing like that? - [Tim] Never. 1647 01:07:52,958 --> 01:07:55,583 - You know, if DeeDee's been checked out of the marriage 1648 01:07:55,667 --> 01:07:59,542 for so long and is kind of not showing you the love 1649 01:07:59,625 --> 01:08:01,667 and affection that you need, - Zero. 1650 01:08:01,750 --> 01:08:03,708 - what's the point of cleaning up the house 1651 01:08:03,792 --> 01:08:06,625 and making room for the marriage then, from your perspective? 1652 01:08:06,708 --> 01:08:09,083 (sentimental music) 1653 01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:11,583 - I don't know. 1654 01:08:14,875 --> 01:08:17,333 Sorry. - [Dr. Tolin] It's all right. 1655 01:08:19,708 --> 01:08:20,750 - I don't know. 1656 01:08:22,542 --> 01:08:24,458 - What do you need from DeeDee? 1657 01:08:25,458 --> 01:08:27,500 - Really? - [Dr. Tolin] Yeah. 1658 01:08:33,042 --> 01:08:35,083 - Put me out of my misery. 1659 01:08:36,542 --> 01:08:38,958 - Can you say more about that? 1660 01:08:39,042 --> 01:08:40,333 - Let me go. 1661 01:08:42,792 --> 01:08:44,625 Because she already has. 1662 01:08:45,792 --> 01:08:47,167 - Deep down, I think he wants 1663 01:08:47,208 --> 01:08:49,292 to have a relationship with DeeDee. 1664 01:08:49,375 --> 01:08:51,250 I just think he's so hopeless 1665 01:08:51,375 --> 01:08:53,542 that he doesn't think it's possible. 1666 01:08:53,625 --> 01:08:55,792 - Let's just do it, sign a piece of paper. 1667 01:08:57,208 --> 01:09:00,083 - Is that what you want? 1668 01:09:00,167 --> 01:09:01,833 (emotional music) 1669 01:09:01,958 --> 01:09:03,125 (Tim sighs) 1670 01:09:03,208 --> 01:09:04,583 We're gonna try to bring them back together 1671 01:09:04,708 --> 01:09:06,625 by creating a physical space for them. 1672 01:09:06,708 --> 01:09:09,875 But there's still gonna have to be a lot of work done here 1673 01:09:09,958 --> 01:09:11,500 if this marriage is gonna succeed. 1674 01:09:16,833 --> 01:09:19,375 (downtempo rock music) 1675 01:09:38,208 --> 01:09:40,583 - My whole goal would be 1676 01:09:40,667 --> 01:09:44,375 that we kind of dig through, pull it all out. 1677 01:09:44,375 --> 01:09:48,375 You can spend 20 minutes going through it, 1678 01:09:48,458 --> 01:09:50,417 pull out anything you want, 1679 01:09:50,500 --> 01:09:53,875 and then we just pick up the tarp and put it into the trash, 1680 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,167 what's left over. 1681 01:09:55,208 --> 01:09:56,667 - What do you think, Tim? 1682 01:09:56,708 --> 01:09:58,500 - [Dorothy] You loved me up until right now, right? 1683 01:09:58,583 --> 01:10:00,667 - I still kind of love you. (Dorothy laughs) 1684 01:10:00,708 --> 01:10:02,042 Yeah, that's fine. 1685 01:10:02,125 --> 01:10:04,042 - Okay, let's put on your gloves. 1686 01:10:04,125 --> 01:10:05,208 - [DeeDee] Thank you. 1687 01:10:05,292 --> 01:10:07,333 - Organizers, come on over, I need you. 1688 01:10:07,375 --> 01:10:09,458 And we're gonna start just digging and thinning it out 1689 01:10:09,542 --> 01:10:11,750 so that Tim can go in and find what he wants. 1690 01:10:12,875 --> 01:10:14,333 Thin it on out. 1691 01:10:14,458 --> 01:10:16,042 Start looking right here. 1692 01:10:16,167 --> 01:10:17,792 Anything in this little section? 1693 01:10:17,875 --> 01:10:19,375 - [Tim] That dial indicator right there. 1694 01:10:19,458 --> 01:10:21,333 - [Dorothy] Right here. - Yes, ma'am, be nice to it. 1695 01:10:21,375 --> 01:10:22,625 - [Dorothy] All right, now 1696 01:10:22,708 --> 01:10:23,625 we're looking in this little section right here. 1697 01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:25,333 - That wheel. - [Dorothy] All right. 1698 01:10:25,417 --> 01:10:28,417 So be ready to just grab what he's asking. 1699 01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:29,958 - [Tim] Yes, that's definitely a keep. 1700 01:10:31,083 --> 01:10:34,083 - So I'm gonna say something that's really, really hard. 1701 01:10:34,167 --> 01:10:36,500 15 minutes to do all of this. 1702 01:10:36,583 --> 01:10:38,000 - [Tim] Oh my gosh. - [Dorothy] All right? 1703 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,000 - That speaker right by your left hand, facing down. 1704 01:10:41,042 --> 01:10:42,833 No, that can go. 1705 01:10:42,917 --> 01:10:43,833 - Send that? - [Tim] Yes. 1706 01:10:43,958 --> 01:10:45,292 - [Dorothy] Tim, move forward. 1707 01:10:45,375 --> 01:10:47,125 Tim, keep coming, we're running out of time. 1708 01:10:47,208 --> 01:10:49,250 - [Tim] Oh, boy. 1709 01:10:49,333 --> 01:10:51,292 - Say, you're doing good, keep coming. 1710 01:10:51,375 --> 01:10:52,667 - Yeah, you're doing good. 1711 01:10:52,833 --> 01:10:55,458 - [Tim] There's about five turbochargers that go together. 1712 01:10:55,542 --> 01:10:56,667 That one, that one. 1713 01:10:56,833 --> 01:10:58,000 - [Worker] This? - [Dorothy] Can I see this? 1714 01:10:58,042 --> 01:10:59,292 - The top is right under your feet. 1715 01:10:59,375 --> 01:11:00,500 - Tim, I'm really impressed 1716 01:11:00,583 --> 01:11:01,375 that you're not just grabbing everything. 1717 01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:02,833 That's wonderful. 1718 01:11:02,917 --> 01:11:04,458 - No, I'm not gonna do that. - Good, good, I'm glad. 1719 01:11:04,542 --> 01:11:05,500 - That right there. - Anything else? 1720 01:11:05,542 --> 01:11:07,542 - [Tim] That and that. 1721 01:11:07,667 --> 01:11:11,000 - We're on a countdown of 30 seconds. 1722 01:11:11,083 --> 01:11:12,375 Either of those? 1723 01:11:12,458 --> 01:11:14,000 Any of these right here? 1724 01:11:14,083 --> 01:11:16,667 - [Tim] No. - Okay, we're at time. 1725 01:11:16,750 --> 01:11:19,667 Let's take a look at everything that Tim has saved. 1726 01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:21,667 So let's walk around the outside, come on. 1727 01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:24,625 I don't want you in the tools. Come this way, Tim. 1728 01:11:25,792 --> 01:11:26,667 Come on. 1729 01:11:26,792 --> 01:11:28,125 - I didn't keep anything. (chuckles) 1730 01:11:28,208 --> 01:11:29,458 Yeah, okay. 1731 01:11:29,542 --> 01:11:30,833 - Dr. Tolin. - Yeah. 1732 01:11:30,917 --> 01:11:33,000 - His body language is saying a whole lot here. 1733 01:11:33,042 --> 01:11:34,500 - It is, it is. 1734 01:11:34,583 --> 01:11:36,208 So Tim, tell me what you're thinking right now. 1735 01:11:36,333 --> 01:11:38,667 - $5,000. 1736 01:11:38,708 --> 01:11:39,958 $600. 1737 01:11:40,875 --> 01:11:44,000 Ah, I'm not used to doing that. It's hard for me to do that. 1738 01:11:44,042 --> 01:11:45,292 - [Dr. Tolin] It is hard. 1739 01:11:45,375 --> 01:11:46,917 - It doesn't make any sense to me to do that. 1740 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,833 - To let go of things that you spent good money on. 1741 01:11:48,917 --> 01:11:50,833 - Well, sure. - Of course, of course. 1742 01:11:50,917 --> 01:11:53,333 That feels hard for you and then you want to save it. 1743 01:11:53,417 --> 01:11:55,083 - I don't know anybody that likes doing that at all. 1744 01:11:55,167 --> 01:11:56,167 - No, no. 1745 01:11:56,292 --> 01:11:57,792 But let me ask you this. - [Tim] Yeah? 1746 01:11:57,875 --> 01:12:02,083 - Would you spend $5,000 to preserve your marriage? 1747 01:12:02,167 --> 01:12:04,417 (suspenseful music) 1748 01:12:05,667 --> 01:12:06,792 - Yeah. 1749 01:12:06,875 --> 01:12:08,000 - [Dr. Tolin] Yeah, that's what you're doing. 1750 01:12:08,125 --> 01:12:10,708 - I spent my life trying to. - [Dr. Tolin] Okay. 1751 01:12:10,792 --> 01:12:13,667 - I have one thing, Dr. Tolin. - Go for it. 1752 01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:17,000 - You asked Tim if he'd be willing 1753 01:12:17,125 --> 01:12:21,000 to pay $5,000 to save his marriage and he said yes. 1754 01:12:21,167 --> 01:12:22,375 - He sure did. 1755 01:12:22,458 --> 01:12:24,542 - I'm gonna pick on you for a second, DeeDee. 1756 01:12:24,667 --> 01:12:26,458 You know, like, there was no reaction over there. 1757 01:12:26,542 --> 01:12:29,667 - Well, he kind of hesitated and said, absolutely. 1758 01:12:29,708 --> 01:12:31,458 - And maybe it's none of my business, 1759 01:12:31,542 --> 01:12:35,417 but to me it's like this man feeds on recognition. 1760 01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:37,500 I've learned that in just a few days. 1761 01:12:37,542 --> 01:12:39,042 - [DeeDee] Yeah. - And I don't know- 1762 01:12:39,167 --> 01:12:40,417 - No, you're right. 1763 01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,000 I don't give him credit for all that he can do. 1764 01:12:43,125 --> 01:12:45,375 - That's right, so we could go negative on the hesitation 1765 01:12:45,458 --> 01:12:46,750 or we could go positive on the affirmation. 1766 01:12:46,833 --> 01:12:49,542 - Yeah, yeah, I need to work on that. 1767 01:12:49,625 --> 01:12:52,042 - Let's go positive on the fact that he said yes to it. 1768 01:12:52,042 --> 01:12:53,542 - That's true, you're right. 1769 01:12:53,625 --> 01:12:55,875 I'm glad y'all brought that to my attention. 1770 01:12:55,958 --> 01:12:58,167 I think you've done a wonderful job. 1771 01:12:58,250 --> 01:13:01,292 - [Dr. Tolin] Good, DeeDee. - I'm thrilled, I really am. 1772 01:13:01,375 --> 01:13:02,500 - In a troubled marriage, 1773 01:13:02,542 --> 01:13:04,667 you can choose to either go after 1774 01:13:04,750 --> 01:13:07,417 the negative of what you don't like 1775 01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:09,125 or you can choose to reinforce 1776 01:13:09,208 --> 01:13:10,958 the positive of what you do like. 1777 01:13:11,042 --> 01:13:13,500 I saw that DeeDee still needs a little work here. 1778 01:13:14,958 --> 01:13:17,792 (suspenseful music) 1779 01:13:20,417 --> 01:13:22,875 (slow bluesy music) 1780 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,667 (metal clanging) 1781 01:13:28,958 --> 01:13:30,542 (vehicles revving) 1782 01:13:42,750 --> 01:13:46,167 Tim and I had a chance to talk yesterday one-on-one 1783 01:13:46,250 --> 01:13:47,625 and I really appreciate that. 1784 01:13:47,708 --> 01:13:49,375 And I thought it would be helpful 1785 01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:51,958 for the three of us to talk a little bit today. 1786 01:13:52,042 --> 01:13:53,458 I sort of get a sense that 1787 01:13:53,542 --> 01:13:56,417 the difficulty between the two of you goes way back. 1788 01:13:56,500 --> 01:13:58,167 And it wouldn't surprise me 1789 01:13:58,250 --> 01:14:00,333 if it's not all about the clutter. 1790 01:14:00,417 --> 01:14:03,750 You know, I think it takes a lot to drive a couple apart 1791 01:14:03,833 --> 01:14:05,750 and it's not just the condition of the home, 1792 01:14:05,833 --> 01:14:08,667 although certainly that added to it substantially. 1793 01:14:08,708 --> 01:14:09,792 - Mm. 1794 01:14:09,875 --> 01:14:12,542 - But I'd be curious to hear from both of you. 1795 01:14:12,625 --> 01:14:14,500 What do you think it's gonna take 1796 01:14:15,667 --> 01:14:18,833 to bring you back together and make you feel whole? 1797 01:14:21,375 --> 01:14:23,667 - Well, to be honest, 1798 01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:27,500 I feel like I've just kind of been in a zone for years. 1799 01:14:27,542 --> 01:14:29,500 - [Dr. Tolin] A zone? - Just like, twilight zone. 1800 01:14:29,583 --> 01:14:31,208 I'll go to work and I'm fine. 1801 01:14:31,292 --> 01:14:35,375 And then when I leave, this has always been on my mind. 1802 01:14:35,375 --> 01:14:36,583 - So, DeeDee, 1803 01:14:36,708 --> 01:14:37,958 let me just ask a little bit more about that 1804 01:14:38,042 --> 01:14:39,917 because you're talking about the hoarding 1805 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,000 that's been happening over the last three years, 1806 01:14:42,083 --> 01:14:45,958 but you've been out of the house for longer than that. 1807 01:14:46,042 --> 01:14:47,583 And I'm just kind of curious, you know, 1808 01:14:47,708 --> 01:14:49,250 what drove you apart? 1809 01:14:49,333 --> 01:14:51,667 - When we first moved here, he didn't have a shop. 1810 01:14:51,792 --> 01:14:55,500 And then after that, he was gone all the time. 1811 01:14:55,583 --> 01:14:56,833 - Eight miles away is my shop. 1812 01:14:56,875 --> 01:14:59,375 So I'd go down there and stay and then- 1813 01:14:59,500 --> 01:15:00,833 - And you'd spend the night there? 1814 01:15:00,833 --> 01:15:03,042 - Sometimes until 2:00, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning. 1815 01:15:03,125 --> 01:15:04,542 - [Dr. Tolin] Wow. 1816 01:15:04,625 --> 01:15:05,917 - Sometimes just sleep in my office I was so tired. 1817 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,208 - Yeah. (laughs) 1818 01:15:07,333 --> 01:15:08,750 - So you two just sort of became 1819 01:15:08,833 --> 01:15:10,792 like two ships passing in the night? 1820 01:15:10,875 --> 01:15:13,292 - Yeah, basically. - Absolutely. 1821 01:15:13,375 --> 01:15:14,500 - And as that was happening, 1822 01:15:14,583 --> 01:15:17,333 you were becoming more and more resentful. 1823 01:15:17,417 --> 01:15:18,750 - I was. - And how about you, Tim? 1824 01:15:18,875 --> 01:15:20,250 Were you happy with that situation? 1825 01:15:20,333 --> 01:15:24,917 - No, as it progressed, why go home? 1826 01:15:26,708 --> 01:15:28,292 You know, that's what happened. 1827 01:15:28,375 --> 01:15:29,542 - Why go home? 1828 01:15:29,625 --> 01:15:31,708 - Well, I mean, I'm not missing anything. 1829 01:15:31,833 --> 01:15:33,667 Because she's asleep when I get home, 1830 01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:37,208 if I do and then I get griped at because I'm waking her up. 1831 01:15:37,292 --> 01:15:40,708 One snide comment, one returned, one, you know? 1832 01:15:40,792 --> 01:15:41,792 We started, right? 1833 01:15:41,875 --> 01:15:42,958 Remember when we started? 1834 01:15:43,042 --> 01:15:44,500 - Yeah, we did. 1835 01:15:44,542 --> 01:15:46,042 We did that a lot. 1836 01:15:46,167 --> 01:15:50,333 - Yeah, and so the parting of the waves happened slowly but, 1837 01:15:50,417 --> 01:15:52,500 and then when you see it, it's like, what happened? 1838 01:15:52,583 --> 01:15:53,708 You know? 1839 01:15:53,792 --> 01:15:55,500 I'm over here and you're over there. 1840 01:15:55,542 --> 01:15:57,542 (emotive music) 1841 01:15:57,542 --> 01:15:59,917 - What do you feel like you need from DeeDee? 1842 01:16:03,333 --> 01:16:07,625 - That I matter to her at all and that she wants me around. 1843 01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:09,833 - DeeDee what do you you feel like you need from Tim? 1844 01:16:09,875 --> 01:16:15,042 - I need him to appreciate me and all that I have done 1845 01:16:15,167 --> 01:16:17,417 whether I've shown it or not. - [Tim] I do. 1846 01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:19,833 - I do not feel appreciated at all. 1847 01:16:19,917 --> 01:16:23,667 - You don't feel appreciated? - No, I don't. (laughs) 1848 01:16:23,792 --> 01:16:26,667 - I mean, I'm hearing from both of you that what you want 1849 01:16:26,708 --> 01:16:29,333 is for the other person to show some appreciation 1850 01:16:29,458 --> 01:16:32,083 and to show some love. - Yeah, yeah. 1851 01:16:32,167 --> 01:16:34,292 - You know, that it sounds like neither of you 1852 01:16:34,375 --> 01:16:36,000 feels like you're getting it. 1853 01:16:36,042 --> 01:16:39,042 So let's talk about that a little bit. 1854 01:16:39,167 --> 01:16:40,250 I mean, DeeDee, 1855 01:16:40,333 --> 01:16:43,000 what is something you appreciate about Tim? 1856 01:16:43,083 --> 01:16:46,167 - He's always been a very positive person. 1857 01:16:46,208 --> 01:16:49,500 He can always think of something positive 1858 01:16:49,583 --> 01:16:53,208 that will come out of anything and I love that about him. 1859 01:16:53,292 --> 01:16:54,875 He's very spontaneous. 1860 01:16:54,958 --> 01:16:56,958 He's kind of a clown sometimes. 1861 01:16:57,917 --> 01:16:59,000 - Tim, could you tell DeeDee 1862 01:16:59,042 --> 01:17:01,000 something that you appreciate about her? 1863 01:17:01,042 --> 01:17:03,375 - I appreciate you because you stuck by me. 1864 01:17:04,542 --> 01:17:05,625 - Yeah. 1865 01:17:05,708 --> 01:17:07,750 - And I don't- 1866 01:17:11,542 --> 01:17:13,417 That amazes me because I know, 1867 01:17:13,542 --> 01:17:14,750 you know, what we've been through 1868 01:17:15,792 --> 01:17:17,750 and I've always hung on to that. 1869 01:17:19,375 --> 01:17:20,500 - Well, that's good. 1870 01:17:20,542 --> 01:17:21,542 That's good. 1871 01:17:21,625 --> 01:17:23,500 - I missed you terribly 1872 01:17:23,583 --> 01:17:27,167 and so I'm glad that you're here right now. 1873 01:17:27,250 --> 01:17:29,500 - Yeah, we need to be a team like we were. 1874 01:17:29,583 --> 01:17:31,292 - Yep, when we met. 1875 01:17:32,833 --> 01:17:34,958 - I will say, I appreciate hearing you both 1876 01:17:34,958 --> 01:17:37,500 express appreciation to each other. 1877 01:17:37,542 --> 01:17:39,292 I think you've got some work ahead of you 1878 01:17:39,375 --> 01:17:40,583 and I'd love to see you 1879 01:17:40,708 --> 01:17:42,750 get into some good marriage counseling 1880 01:17:42,833 --> 01:17:44,042 but I really do feel 1881 01:17:44,125 --> 01:17:46,917 like you have the potential to rebuild here. 1882 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,250 So I wish you the best of luck with that. 1883 01:17:49,333 --> 01:17:51,292 - Thank you so much. - Thank you, Doctor. 1884 01:17:51,375 --> 01:17:53,083 - Okay. 1885 01:17:53,167 --> 01:17:53,875 (dramatic music) 1886 01:17:57,667 --> 01:18:00,208 (upbeat country music) 1887 01:18:14,875 --> 01:18:17,292 (bright music) 1888 01:18:20,792 --> 01:18:22,333 - Yep, good, good. 1889 01:18:22,417 --> 01:18:24,167 Now we're all gonna turn around. 1890 01:18:24,250 --> 01:18:27,708 We really want to do a wonderful reveal for Tim and DeeDee. 1891 01:18:27,792 --> 01:18:29,000 Two, three! 1892 01:18:29,083 --> 01:18:30,875 And I've got a whole bunch 1893 01:18:30,875 --> 01:18:33,917 of secrets and surprises ready to go. 1894 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,042 - Oh my God! I just saw that! 1895 01:18:37,125 --> 01:18:38,167 - Tim! 1896 01:18:38,208 --> 01:18:40,042 - It's not an ugly old semi anymore. 1897 01:18:40,125 --> 01:18:41,708 - [DeeDee] Oh my gosh, I know it! 1898 01:18:41,792 --> 01:18:44,333 - [Dorothy] It's a powder coating shop, by golly! 1899 01:18:44,375 --> 01:18:45,333 - [DeeDee] They're amazing! 1900 01:18:45,375 --> 01:18:46,500 - I'm stunned. 1901 01:18:46,625 --> 01:18:48,125 I'm kind of taking it all in right now. 1902 01:18:48,208 --> 01:18:51,000 You're amazing, y'all are. - Aw! 1903 01:18:51,083 --> 01:18:54,500 - When I took my blindfold off, I was stunned. 1904 01:18:54,542 --> 01:18:56,833 No, there's no words for it. 1905 01:18:56,917 --> 01:18:58,875 It's like inside like, (gasps) 1906 01:18:58,958 --> 01:19:02,125 oh, finally there's a, clouds part 1907 01:19:02,208 --> 01:19:04,542 and there's sunshine coming through. 1908 01:19:04,625 --> 01:19:06,167 - This is just the beginning. 1909 01:19:06,208 --> 01:19:09,500 So why don't we go take a look at the house? 1910 01:19:09,542 --> 01:19:12,708 Okay, here we go. - Oh, whoa. 1911 01:19:12,708 --> 01:19:15,292 (upbeat music) 1912 01:19:16,208 --> 01:19:18,208 - [DeeDee] Golly! - Oh my gosh. 1913 01:19:18,292 --> 01:19:20,333 - This is unreal! - They got you furniture. 1914 01:19:20,375 --> 01:19:22,125 - [Donna] Wow. - [Tim] Look, I can move around. 1915 01:19:22,208 --> 01:19:24,875 - Gosh, I can't believe this! 1916 01:19:28,625 --> 01:19:31,125 - It's amazing, just amazing! 1917 01:19:31,208 --> 01:19:34,875 Walking into the house today in comparison to the other day 1918 01:19:34,958 --> 01:19:36,917 for the first time, it was amazing. 1919 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,833 I couldn't believe the difference. 1920 01:19:38,875 --> 01:19:42,542 Everything was clean, it was just amazing to see it. 1921 01:19:42,667 --> 01:19:45,000 - It's not a mechanics garage anymore. 1922 01:19:45,042 --> 01:19:47,042 - I've got to get used to that, I really do. 1923 01:19:47,125 --> 01:19:48,958 - It's not, Tim. - No more drive up services. 1924 01:19:48,958 --> 01:19:50,375 - [Debby] It's a home now. - [Donna] No. 1925 01:19:50,458 --> 01:19:52,083 - All right, why don't we keep walking around 1926 01:19:52,208 --> 01:19:55,625 and see what else we've got up our sleeves, huh? 1927 01:19:55,708 --> 01:19:57,625 (bright music) 1928 01:19:57,708 --> 01:19:59,208 - [DeeDee] Oh my gosh! 1929 01:19:59,292 --> 01:20:01,000 - Tim, look what they did for you. 1930 01:20:01,125 --> 01:20:04,583 - [Tim] I know, gosh. - [DeeDee] Oh, this is so nice. 1931 01:20:04,708 --> 01:20:06,125 - You've got music to play 1932 01:20:06,208 --> 01:20:07,875 and you can blast it as loud as you want. 1933 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,625 Sit in the chairs and rock on. 1934 01:20:09,708 --> 01:20:10,667 - I won't bother you. 1935 01:20:10,750 --> 01:20:12,000 (Dorothy laughs) 1936 01:20:12,042 --> 01:20:13,292 - All right. - This is unbelievable. 1937 01:20:13,375 --> 01:20:15,792 - We've got more, let's go. - Oh my goodness. 1938 01:20:16,708 --> 01:20:18,333 - [Tim] Oh my gosh, look. 1939 01:20:18,417 --> 01:20:20,417 - Wow, oh, DeeDee. 1940 01:20:20,542 --> 01:20:23,000 (bright music) 1941 01:20:25,708 --> 01:20:28,667 (DeeDee laughs) 1942 01:20:28,708 --> 01:20:30,125 - [Debby] It's amazing. 1943 01:20:30,208 --> 01:20:31,667 - [Dr. Tolin] What's your reaction, DeeDee? 1944 01:20:31,708 --> 01:20:33,083 - I can't believe it. 1945 01:20:33,208 --> 01:20:35,958 - To see that room cleaned up, 1946 01:20:36,042 --> 01:20:38,167 deep down, it just gave me the hope 1947 01:20:38,250 --> 01:20:42,417 that they had an opportunity now to mend this marriage. 1948 01:20:42,500 --> 01:20:46,542 - Yes, it's a new mattress, yes! (laughs) 1949 01:20:46,667 --> 01:20:53,167 - They have a clean slate and that's a gift and a blessing. 1950 01:20:53,208 --> 01:20:56,000 - So I know you've been in here before, 1951 01:20:56,042 --> 01:20:59,292 but there are some things that we want to discuss with you. 1952 01:20:59,375 --> 01:21:03,875 Turns out that because you were so willing, 1953 01:21:03,958 --> 01:21:07,583 tires, you made $220. 1954 01:21:07,708 --> 01:21:11,625 Scrap, you made a total of $740 1955 01:21:11,708 --> 01:21:16,000 and the cars, you made $2,850 1956 01:21:16,042 --> 01:21:20,667 for a total of $3,010. 1957 01:21:20,750 --> 01:21:23,250 - Are you serious? - [Dorothy] Yours. 1958 01:21:23,375 --> 01:21:26,000 - [DeeDee] Oh. - I wasn't expecting that. 1959 01:21:26,083 --> 01:21:28,500 - [Debby] Good job. - I can't believe this. 1960 01:21:28,542 --> 01:21:30,167 (group clapping) 1961 01:21:30,250 --> 01:21:32,917 Thank you for being a good picker. 1962 01:21:33,042 --> 01:21:35,458 - Decision maker. - All the right stuff. 1963 01:21:35,542 --> 01:21:38,000 - So Tim, because of those decisions, 1964 01:21:38,083 --> 01:21:41,000 we've been able to satisfy the Fire Marshall. 1965 01:21:41,125 --> 01:21:44,500 So all of that's like, breathe. 1966 01:21:44,542 --> 01:21:47,292 And I don't think that's everything, Dr. Tolin? 1967 01:21:47,375 --> 01:21:50,000 - Well, I'd love to be able to tell you 1968 01:21:50,083 --> 01:21:52,000 that the hard part is over, 1969 01:21:52,042 --> 01:21:54,167 but it's just beginning 1970 01:21:54,250 --> 01:21:56,792 because maintaining this is gonna be work. 1971 01:21:56,875 --> 01:21:59,708 And by this, I mean not just the house. 1972 01:21:59,792 --> 01:22:00,833 You, the two of you. 1973 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,333 On Tim's side of things, I've hooked you up 1974 01:22:03,417 --> 01:22:05,500 with one of the best hoarding experts in the state. 1975 01:22:05,625 --> 01:22:07,458 He's gonna be able to treat you virtually 1976 01:22:07,542 --> 01:22:10,000 and we'll pay the cost of that. - Really? 1977 01:22:10,125 --> 01:22:11,292 - [Dr. Tolin] Yeah. - [Tim] That's great. 1978 01:22:11,375 --> 01:22:13,333 - They'll help you maintain this 1979 01:22:13,375 --> 01:22:15,750 so that you really learn to keep this habit under control. 1980 01:22:15,875 --> 01:22:17,833 I think this was a really successful week 1981 01:22:17,875 --> 01:22:19,417 for Tim and for DeeDee. 1982 01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:21,667 You know, this is not just about cleaning out a house, 1983 01:22:21,708 --> 01:22:25,375 which we did, but it's also about changing behavior. 1984 01:22:25,458 --> 01:22:27,500 And I think Tim was willing to change 1985 01:22:27,583 --> 01:22:29,333 and I think DeeDee was willing to change. 1986 01:22:29,417 --> 01:22:31,667 And I think they're both better off for it. 1987 01:22:31,708 --> 01:22:34,125 So let me ask a question. 1988 01:22:34,208 --> 01:22:38,500 So are the two of you gonna stay together? 1989 01:22:38,542 --> 01:22:39,833 - Yes. - Yep. 1990 01:22:39,833 --> 01:22:41,333 - Yeah. - We sure are. 1991 01:22:41,375 --> 01:22:43,708 - Yeah, it's like you say, it's not gonna be easy. 1992 01:22:43,792 --> 01:22:46,458 We'll have to really work at it. 1993 01:22:46,542 --> 01:22:47,667 - It takes work, yeah. 1994 01:22:47,750 --> 01:22:49,000 - It will. - It will. 1995 01:22:49,042 --> 01:22:52,333 - And if it wasn't for all of y'all, 1996 01:22:52,417 --> 01:22:55,667 this never would have happened. Never would. 1997 01:22:55,708 --> 01:22:57,458 - Yeah, y'all are amazing. 1998 01:22:57,458 --> 01:23:00,167 - Well, we gotta we gotta do some work on the house. 1999 01:23:00,208 --> 01:23:01,542 We gotta do some work on the marriage too. 2000 01:23:01,625 --> 01:23:03,458 - Yeah. - Well, we can do it together. 2001 01:23:03,542 --> 01:23:04,708 We can. - Yes. 2002 01:23:04,792 --> 01:23:06,458 - We do have one more surprise. 2003 01:23:06,542 --> 01:23:08,833 We know that when your house burned down, 2004 01:23:08,917 --> 01:23:11,375 you lost your wedding rings in that fire. 2005 01:23:11,458 --> 01:23:15,292 And so, as a token from all of us to you both, 2006 01:23:15,375 --> 01:23:17,500 we would like to give you. 2007 01:23:17,583 --> 01:23:22,250 - [Tim] What? Oh my god. - No way! (laughs) 2008 01:23:22,333 --> 01:23:26,167 When Dorothy brought out the box with the wedding rings, 2009 01:23:26,250 --> 01:23:30,708 I can't even tell you how shocked I was. 2010 01:23:30,792 --> 01:23:32,500 - How about that? - Oh my gosh. 2011 01:23:32,583 --> 01:23:34,542 - [Debby] Oh look, that's beautiful, DeeDee. 2012 01:23:34,625 --> 01:23:36,083 - [Dr. Tolin] It looks nice on you, DeeDee. 2013 01:23:36,167 --> 01:23:37,333 - I can do it again. 2014 01:23:37,417 --> 01:23:38,542 - Here you go! 2015 01:23:38,625 --> 01:23:42,250 It feels great that it can mean something now. 2016 01:23:42,375 --> 01:23:44,750 And even, probably, if I had a wedding ring before, 2017 01:23:44,833 --> 01:23:48,250 I probably wasn't gonna wear it 'cause it didn't mean anything. 2018 01:23:48,375 --> 01:23:51,167 But now it's the start of a new beginning. 2019 01:23:52,208 --> 01:23:54,125 - We now pronounce you man and wife. 2020 01:23:54,208 --> 01:23:55,500 Here you go! 2021 01:23:55,583 --> 01:23:58,042 - [Debby] Oh my god! (DeeDee shouts and laughs) 2022 01:23:58,042 --> 01:24:00,167 - [Group] Cheers. - [Dorothy] Congratulations! 2023 01:24:00,250 --> 01:24:02,500 - You got a new house, you got everything. 2024 01:24:02,625 --> 01:24:04,292 This is awesome. - [DeeDee] I can't believe it. 2025 01:24:04,417 --> 01:24:06,000 - [Tim] To the future. - Yeah, that's right. 2026 01:24:06,042 --> 01:24:08,500 To the future. - Ours. 2027 01:24:08,625 --> 01:24:11,625 - This experience was an absolute success. 2028 01:24:11,708 --> 01:24:15,667 Top to bottom, every single area of life. 2029 01:24:15,708 --> 01:24:18,750 Tim and DeeDee, their property, their home, their finances, 2030 01:24:18,833 --> 01:24:22,792 everything that was involved is just like, perfect. 2031 01:24:22,875 --> 01:24:24,167 To the newlyweds! 2032 01:24:24,292 --> 01:24:27,917 - Thank you! (Dorothy laughs) 2033 01:24:28,042 --> 01:24:30,208 (dramatic music)