[narrator] Kimberly Avila disappeared on May 13, 2017.
[Ivon] We stayed until late searching and looking.
She was nowhere...
nowhere to be found.
[narrator] Her family is desperate for answers.
We need to know what happened.
We deserve to know the answer.
[Derick] Nobody deserves to be put into a cold case folder
brushed off as missing until found.
[Ivon] We put up posters every single day.
By next morning, majority of the posters were torn, vandalized,
burned, only her posters.
[Oscar] Sadly, Texas is the deadliest place
in the United States for transwomen.
[narrator] This episode of Disappeared retraces Kimberly's last known steps.
I was told that Kimberly was with a man and then the last they saw
was her getting pushed into a car that was driven
by somebody else off into the dark night.
[Ivon] I'm not giving up.
We're not giving up because we love her very much.
I just...
just want her home.
[narrator] The more people who know Kimberly's story,
the greater the chance of bringing her home.
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Have you seen Kimberly Avila?
[Ivon] My name is Ivon Rodarte Avila.
I'm Kimberly Avila's sister.
Kimberly disappeared on May 13, 2017.
She was only 32 years old.
[Ivon] Kimberly was getting ready to go out.
I think she was going to go to a club.
She had her makeup on, listening to music and dancing.
Around maybe 2:00, 2:30 in the morning.
She said, "Hey, you know what, let's go.
Give me a ride downtown."
And I was like, "It's already late."
"Well, I'm already ready."
You know, she was the type of, "I'm ready."
I'm like, "Well, why don't you just go out tomorrow?"
"Nope."
[Ivon] She was very sassy sometimes.
And, you know, I remember so clear that she was like, "Look at me.
I didn't get ready like this to stay home."
[Ivon] My brother Ramiro or Junior was born male, but she dressed as a woman
on weekends, going by the name of Kimberly.
That's what made her happy.
So we accepted it.
We knew when he was growing up that he was gay
because he would like to get my mom's shoes
and her high heels, dressing up.
He was in middle school when he first came out.
My youngest brother would play with cars.
He would play with my dolls.
So, we knew, you know, that he was gay.
[Ivon] He didn't have to worry about anything.
We weren't going to change him or trade him for anything in the world.
He could be, you know, himself.
And that's when, you know, he was at peace.
[Noe] My name is Noe Avila.
I am 34 years old and I am the youngest out of the Avila family.
Kimberly was a great sister to everyone,
but he was also
a little bit of a brother to me.
So to me, he was Junior and to our family he was Junior.
But to the friends and other families that are not living
in our household, he was Kimberly.
He was in a loving home.
He loved each and every one of us.
As far as the family, nothing changed.
My father, he's an old-school guy, you know,
he's one of those macho type of guys, and he always supported my brother.
[Ivon] We had a very good relationship when we were growing up.
We'd play hide and seek.
That's like one of the major things that he would love
to do because he would hide very good.
He's very competitive.
He would always beat us, but he was a caring type of person,
very bubbly type of person.
She was just happy all the time.
Her thing was just music, dancing.
She would say, "I'm just gender fluid.
You know, I'm one person here and then the other when I'm out there."
[Ivon] And so that night, it was a Friday, so she was ready to go out.
That's when she said,
"Give me a ride downtown and I'll see you in the morning."
So I said bye to my mom and my aunts and everybody, and we got in the truck.
On our way to downtown, she was very happy, you know,
listening to music and dancing.
This is where I dropped her off the early morning of May 13,
like around 2:45 in the morning.
I told her, "I'll see you in the morning."
But I drove around three times before I left when I dropped her off
because I had this feeling that something was going to happen.
And I told her, "Let's go and you can come back tomorrow."
She said, "There's a lot of people out here.
I'm not going to be here alone,"
which there was a lot of people out there.
And I said, "Come on, let's go, you know, I'll bring you tomorrow."
She was like, "I'll just be here for a little while.
I'll see you in the morning."
And I said, "Are you sure?"
She's like, "Yeah."
I went home to wait for her and she never...
she never came home.
[Noe] When I woke up the morning of May 13,
that's when I started talking to my mom, she...
she relayed the message that Kimberly wasn't returning
the phone calls, did not arrive at home.
Something completely out of the ordinary.
[Ivon] She never missed coming home.
She would call... [indistinct]
My mom called me and said, "Are you sure she's not at your house?"
She's like, "No."
And I told my mom, you know, "Let me know when she gets home, you know."
So I waited.
My mom kept calling me every hour, "There's something wrong."
I called every single hospital, you know, asking for her to see
if there was any information on her.
I gave the description.
I was going right into a panic mode.
And there was a patrol car right behind Porter High School
in the driveway and I stopped, and I...
you know, I told the officer, you know, it's just what's going on.
And he's like, "I'm already making the report of a missing person."
My name is Derick Garcia.
I'm the morning news anchor over here at CBS 4 News in the Rio Grande Valley.
I've been reporting in the Brownsville area
that's right on the southern border of Texas and Mexico.
Brownsville is deeply rooted in Hispanic culture.
Religion plays a big role here.
Because so many people in Brownsville are Catholic,
it is difficult for members of the LGBTQ community.
Some who have come out have been rejected by their families
and others still have yet to come out because of that fear of being
rejected from their family because the Catholic religion
and previous generations are just so deeply against it.
[Oscar] My name is Oscar Lopez.
I run a nonprofit called Poderosos to draw attention to the border communities.
Brownsville is homophobic and transphobic.
So the fact that the Brownsville Police Department actually took
the information and started a file is important to note
because people just don't disappear.
So Brownsville PD stepped up there,
the police chief, the officers were respectful.
They took the report down really early into the investigation
and started looking into the case.
In my opinion, historically, the Brownsville PD hasn't always stepped up
to help the LGBTQ+ community.
So I was really impressed initially because they were very responsive to the family.
[Ivon] It was a Saturday.
So they told me that I had to wait
for Monday to speak to a detective.
In the afternoon, we all went downtown and...
we went searching.
We walked the streets of downtown for at least an hour.
It was actually my whole family.
[Oscar] The area where Kimberly went missing Washington Street
and 12th is closer to the International Bridge.
The lighting was pretty bad.
If you have two whole blocks of deserted buildings, that means there's no lights
outside of them or inside of them that anybody walking by would feel safer.
[Ivon] I haven't been here in a while, but everything...
a lot has changed.
There's a lot of lights now.
So I was checking to see maybe, you know, something had happened
in that place, and I could see something that she would have
in her purse and maybe it was dropped.
It's one of the very first places where I went to look.
There's a huge trashcan that used to be there.
And my kids and I dug to see maybe something that would tell us
that something had happened there.
But nothing.
We found nothing.
She was nowhere.
Nowhere to be found.
You know, we stayed until late searching and looking for every alley downtown.
So we went home.
We went home and...
and waited.
Monday, we spoke to a detective.
Her name is Melissa Gonzalez.
She's like, "But do you specifically know
what she was doing down there?"
No, I don't.
You know, that day, I don't know what she was doing.
That's when she said, you know, that she's gonna be the detective in the case,
that it was a missing person case that, they're going
to keep us posted and updated and... and go from there.
There was a reward issued from the police department for $1,000.
They set up the hotline.
You know, if anybody had any clues or anybody had seen her,
you know, to go ahead and call.
[Melissa] If you know anything about this case,
call Brownsville Crime Stoppers at 546-T-I-P-S.
[Derick] We started learning about Kimberly Avila pretty early on,
even before police had gone public.
The family had reached out to us hoping that they could get answers.
Members of the trans community are no stranger to violence and sadly,
we live in an area where if you check those boxes that Kimberly checks,
something could happen to you.
For us as journalists, here's a family that is begging for answers
and that's our responsibility as journalists is to find them.
A Brownsville man disappears without a trace.
Police are now turning to the public for help.
Due to the proximity with Mexico, it's protocol for Brownsville police
to check surveillance video at the International Bridges.
Investigators have been reviewing video of people crossing since this weekend.
Still no leads on Avila.
Police say, every missing persons case is different,
but in every one, time is a factor.
We have very little information.
We don't... we don't have any indication to say that something...
there was any type of foul play.
[indistinct radio chatter]
[Noe] The initial response from the police department,
I definitely was optimistic that, you know, these guys are...
they're going to get it done.
Anybody working a case similar to this anywhere in the country
would very quickly want to look at phone records.
And that was the case with the Brownsville PD.
Kimberly had a phone that was not in service.
She would use it to take pictures,
but the phone that she had with her was not in service.
It was disconnected.
Unfortunately, with Kimberly's case she had no real digital trail.
So the police told us that they ran into dead ends very early on.
I walked the streets every single day.
I would get out of my house like around midnight and would go home like,
around 4:00 o'clock in the morning.
Walking to see maybe I would see her and to see him, maybe,
you know, somebody would bring her out.
And I always went home empty-handed with nothing at all.
[woman 1 speaking in foreign language]
[woman 2 speaking in foreign language]
[woman 1 speaking in foreign language]
[Noe] The last time I saw Kimberly, it was May 12.
We were having a late dinner with some family members
that came from Mexico to visit us.
[Ivon] When my family comes over from Mexico,
you know, we all gather and we play Loteria.
[Noe] It's like bingo, but with a different type of characters,
you know, like a mermaid or the sun, the moon, you know.
Loteria is definitely a tradition for Mexican people, you know.
You have to play that, otherwise you're not Mexican.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[woman speaking in foreign language]
[Elvira speaking in foreign language]
[Ramiro speaking in foreign language]
[Samantha] My name is Samantha Montemayor.
In the Rio Grande Valley, I was with GENTex, a trans-led organization
and also a community leader and activists
within the community of the Rio Grande Valley.
The first time I met Kimberly, we were at a club, and I remember her.
She was always smiling and making jokes.
I feel that Kimberly was honored to have the parents she had,
the siblings that she has because they've been so supportive.
Brownsville or the Rio Grande Valley,
it's different than any other part in the state of Texas.
We're ten years behind on everything.
[Noe] We're still living in a world with discrimination,
you know, sometimes it was extremely
challenging because of the lifestyle that he had.
Something as simple as going to the store and him, you know,
just the way he walks or his personality, he was very open, very blunt.
But I... I did...
we did encounter a lot of different situations
where they used to try to bully him.
Unfortunate.
There's a lot of people out there that are closed-minded,
that don't understand, you know?
Until our whole community can feel safe and blossom
and have full-time employment and housing, I'm sorry,
we're still a really homophobic, transphobic region
that needs to be called out.
So we joke around the Rio Grande Valley, which is where Brownsville
is located, that when people want to move away
from here because they want to go to the big city
and experience that life and have more opportunities
for school and work and just joy and culture and things of that nature,
they turn to San Antonio, which we kind of all laugh
at because it's just like the border, but bigger.
Sadly, Texas is the deadliest place in the United States for trans women.
We are number one for the amount of women
who get killed to our trans in our state.
Two days after he went missing and the police opened up the case of a missing person,
we started to put up flyers.
Myself, all our family members and even friends started
to help us place flyers all over downtown.
[Melissa] These are some of the latest posters Elvira Avila
has posted on trees, walls, and storefronts around downtown Brownsville.
The picture of her son Ramiro Avila, also known as Kimberly.
[Oscar] Right about May 16th, my staff and I noticed posters in our downtown area
with the image of Ramiro and Kimberly and basically asking that anybody
who had information to please call their number and to tell them
about their whereabouts, and we haven't stopped working with them since.
We put up posters every single day.
By the next morning, majority of the posters were torn, vandalized, burned.
Only her posters.
There's a lot of posters up on the walls and only hers were damaged,
only hers were torn, only hers were vandalized, you know,
with a whole bunch of graffiti on her picture.
That made us just want to come back more and more and more to see,
you know, maybe who did that to maybe
catch the person that was doing that.
I had people follow me when I was putting up flyers.
When we would put up flyers, my family and I, we would see strange cars,
you know, just following us street after street, you know,
just watching what we were doing.
It was scary.
It was hard.
[Derick] A lot of questions being raised about why those flyers were being ripped off.
Is this the person who knows what happened to Kimberly?
Was this a person who was with her?
[Oscar] There was one gentleman who was caught on camera
defacing a lot of the flyers on multiple locations but when the police
did stop them, questioned them,
they determined that he was not a threat.
That was potentially a lead that police were looking into.
But ultimately, that lead came to a dead end also.
[Ivon] The detective said that there's a lot of homeless people downtown
and there's a lot of, you know, mentally ill people.
So they would blame them.
[Derick] About a week after her disappearance, a tip came in that Kimberly
may have been a sex worker in the downtown area.
Police didn't confirm that but when we went
to her family, they told us the truth.
Being a sex worker definitely heightened the level of danger
of what may or may not have happened to her.
I've always heard rumors, you know, online and stuff like that
but it's something that I've never seen.
[Ivon] They say that she was doing the sex work.
Yes.
You know, it was something that he did not like to talk about.
But I'm not denying it.
I just can't tell you what she was doing out there.
[Derick] At the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
No one deserves to be abducted, killed, go lost, put into a cold case folder
or just brushed off as missing until found and then ultimately forgotten.
Nobody deserves to be forgotten.
[Oscar] It's very hard for our trans women in particular to get
meaningful employment and maintain it, so transactional sex
is much more common because there aren't really any options.
If you identify as female but you were assigned male at birth,
often you want to be acknowledged as a female desperately.
For them, it's also an affirming thing to go out
and do sex work, because not only do you like me,
but you're willing to pay me.
[woman] Kimberly is my best friend.
The last time I saw Kimberly was like, a month before she disappeared.
She was super fun.
She was like always...
she was the nice person.
She used to give everything to anybody like.
You wanted something, here it is, you can keep it.
Then she became a sex worker, mainly to help herself to get some extra money for herself.
We used to talk about it, but it's like I'm no one to judge.
So we all of our friends, we used to tell her, like,
"Hey, you know, just be careful out there, you know?
I mean, yeah, you know, just be careful 'cause
you never know what can happen"
'cause everybody knows how everything here downtown is.
Yeah, it's... it's downtown.
It's really dangerous and a lot of people kind of
don't want to come to towards this side.
[Oscar] Yeah.
How familiar are you with this hotel and what happens there?
[woman] Well.
This is the hotel where all the sex workers come.
It's two hotels, there's the one on the other side.
They go inside--
[Oscar] Once they have a customer.
[woman] As soon as they get a customer and.
[Oscar] I mean, that makes so much sense because you pay for the room...
-[woman] Yeah. -[Oscar] ...and then you can use--
[woman] Yes.
Of course, there's a lot of violence.
[Oscar] So sad because even when they go
to the police and ask for help...
[woman] Police doesn't... don't do nothing.
I believe that sex work did play a part in her disappearance,
but police had no success in talking to other
sex workers in Kimberly's case.
They were afraid of the police.
And then ultimately they were afraid of what happened
to Kimberly could end up happening to them.
We know that a few weeks before Kimberly's disappearance,
the police had arrested some of the transactional sex workers
that worked downtown Brownsville.
So, the girls were reluctant to talk about what had happened because
they were afraid that they were going to be arrested, too.
And they just shut down and they never again
have spoken about what they may or may not have seen.
[Derick] Brownsville Police Department has a history of arresting
commercial sex workers and their clients in the downtown area.
It's a frayed relationship that's only harmed the investigation.
So here from the police and then now they're coming to us for help.
You know, we're not going to cooperate with the police because
they just arrested us or people that we associate with.
So what do you do?
Progress in this case has been very difficult because of this history
of mistrust between sex workers and the police departments.
Based off of sex workers that I've spoken to,
they wouldn't go to police, period.
It doesn't matter what the scenario is.
The conversation that I've had with them is to say, "What's the point?
Police aren't going to help us.
They never have and they never will."
So that fractured relationship between the police and sex workers
has absolutely harmed this investigation.
They don't want to talk to each other and they never have
and I don't think they ever will.
Detective Gonzalez would call us almost every day
to let us know we have no leads.
It was very disappointing.
So, at this point, the case is cold.
And then, in December 2018, a new lead comes in and it doesn't come
from the media, it doesn't come from police but instead comes
from a blogger on the website El Rrun-Rrun.
[Juan] My name is Juan Montoya, and I'm a journalist.
I've been a border journalist since '78 and my first job was at the Brownsville Herald.
Now, with the social media, I...
I run a blogspot, like an online newspaper here.
We pretty much cover everything from culture to crime.
I keep my ear close to the ground.
[Derick] Usage of social media has absolutely helped out investigations.
We don't have to just wait for police to give us answers.
Internet tipsters, people who watch us can definitely give us
those tips, those breadcrumbs and we take all kinds of tips in a case like this seriously.
[Juan] Brownsville is a very historical city.
It's a very cultural city but it's also a border city,
which implies a lot of issues contraband, crime, cartels.
The underbelly of this city is contained in the little beer joints.
They call them Cantina de la Muerte.
Beer Joints of Death, for lack of a better term.
Kimberly, word of her disappearance got out quickly because
she was a regular at these places and she started
not showing up and her parents started asking where she was at,
if anybody had seen her.
The people in the street started talking about her missing
and the picture started going up.
I remembered, "You know what?
I remember seeing this girl."
And then as I started talking to people, they started telling me
that they had seen her there at that particular bar walking out with this man.
I was told by people that Kimberly was with a man
who was associated with a criminal group.
Well, that's the person that...
that was seen last with her.
And I don't think that the guy actually knew that Kimberly was not a woman.
But they bought some beer, and they were walking out the door at closing time.
And they were getting into an argument because apparently the guy thought
Kimberly had stolen something from him.
And as they argue along the street, he was demanding
something from her loudly enough to wake people up.
And him screaming that to give him something back.
And then the last they saw was her getting pushed into the...
into a car that was driven by somebody else off into the dark night.
[narrator] Kimberly Avila was last seen May 13, 2017.
If you have any information,
please contact the Brownsville Police at 956-548-7000.
[Juan] If the suspicions were correct, Kimberly was taken across the border.
The people who...
who told me about this person, they know who he is.
As much as I try to pry them into telling me something that could be used to solve
the disappearance, they were not forthcoming because they would...
they thought they would get back to them.
Along this border, the retribution is swift.
I did go to the police with this information,
they took it and that's the last I've ever heard of it.
[Derick] Right across the way from Brownsville is Matamoros,
where you have a totally different level of crime and violence,
rates that are vastly different from what you see in Brownsville.
Once you cross into Mexico, who knows what happens next?
There was never any cooperation between Brownsville
and the Matamoras police.
To this day, there's never been anybody who's gone and said,
"This week, did you get, like, somebody unidentifiable in your morgue?"
Nothing.
So our faith with the police department,
yeah, it started not...
...being as good as it was at the beginning.
I want to think that maybe they're just incapable and they can't say it.
New details in the disappearance of a local LGBTQ woman.
[Derick] June 2019, another tip came in.
And that tip must have been important for them to ask the family
to hold a press conference at their house to bring all of us together.
Detective Gonzalez did ask us to do a press conference.
There was a phone call, a tip that was made.
This morning today, we are here with the Avila family at their residence.
We know that there's people who know or have information
on the case and they chose not to come forward.
The strange part about this whole press conference is that the police
wouldn't tell the family what the caller said.
They didn't want to tell us who this person was or what they said
or any kind of descriptors that would entice them to call.
So it had a lot of us scratching our heads saying, "What is all of this about?"
We pushed police to answer our questions.
They did not supply us with a lot of the answers to questions we were having.
We don't know what was said because it wasn't said to us.
We don't know if it was a male or a female that called.
We were never told what was said on that phone call,
why it's so important, we don't know.
All they asked us to do was just to make that plea to the community.
You had a reason to call that day.
I'm begging you to call back.
We're begging.
I'm begging.
Our pain is just growing more and more every day.
It's not getting any better.
It's getting worse.
[Oscar] Nobody ever called back.
So the glimmer of hope was so real for the family and then to have
that sort of pulled out from underneath them was...
was pretty heart...
heart-wrenching.
I try not to let my sister,
my father, my mom to engage in those tips/rumors.
It only adds more sadness, more stress, you know, and then if he's not there
and it's going to hit you twice as hard.
[Derick] To this day, we still don't know what that caller said
or even if that caller picked up the phone again.
After that press conference, radio silence.
As time went on, we didn't get any type of updates.
The police department, they were not returning phone calls.
This week marks two years since a gender-fluid person was reported missing.
The family has criticized investigators for not doing enough.
There's very minimal information that has come up recently, obviously.
The longer it takes, the more chances that...
that things will get cold.
There's nothing concrete.
The people who have been really keeping
Kimberly's story alive are her family.
They have gone to every single interviewer.
They've gone to every single news station.
If somebody with a camera comes up to them, they don't say no.
But also members of the trans and LGBTQ community.
And Oscar has gone above and beyond to make sure
that Kimberly does not end up in that cold case file column.
My staff and I led the organizing of two events every year,
which was a birthday celebration of life.
We also recognize the day that she went missing as...
as the other day that we sort of acknowledged, and we do it annually.
[Oscar] In 2019, we were working closely with the family to have
a vigil for Kimberly because she was missing still
and we had no credible leads or anything.
Vigil is here, you know, asking the public for help in searching, you know,
looking for Kimberly, you know, letting them know that she's still missing,
that we're still looking for her, that we haven't given up.
There is a vigil for Kimberly and at that vigil
was the Cameron County district attorney Luis Saenz.
He drops a bombshell on the family using the phrase,
"We want to bring Kimberly's killer to justice."
And up until that point, the family only knew
that Kimberly was a missing persons' case.
I don't think any of us were prepared 'cause we had never heard
anything or any type of tip that Kimberly had been killed.
[Ivon] We're all in shock.
You know, my mother was looking at me, my father was looking at me.
My brother was looking at me like, "Ivon, what's going on?"
I could hear people mumbling and my mom started crying.
My dad started crying.
And we were like, "What are you talking about?"
I was standing behind the family, and I leaned over
to the sister and I said, "Do you know anything about this?"
She says, "No."
And the mother...
Kimberly's mother was in the worst state because, at that moment,
every possibility of her coming home was bashed by this man.
So I went around the family really quickly up to the police chief,
and I said, "What is he talking about?"
He goes, "I don't know.
I don't know what he's talking about.
That's the wrong case."
I said, "You need to tell him because look at what it's doing to the family."
So he leaned over, whispering, the district attorney's ear
and the district attorney stopped mid-sentence.
Literally, he dropped the mic and...
and ran away with reporters chasing after him, who followed him
all the way back to his office where he got in,
locked the door and wouldn't come out.
It's unforgivable what he did because the family was already in pain
and anguish, thinking the worst and then he says
that their child is dead when it wasn't even the right person.
It wasn't the right case, and all it did was hurt the family.
Tonight marks three years since a transgender woman went missing in Brownsville,
but her family tells CBS 4's Derick Garcia they believe police
aren't putting the cold case at the top of their list because of her sexual
orientation and her line of work.
No lead, nothing new to tell investigators.
And no, we have not been able to develop any leads.
I remain committed to the case as if it happened yesterday.
[Derick] So we're now another year past with Kimberly's case.
I think the question is, what do police need?
I think they need a lot.
I think they need an eyewitness.
They need some sort of evidence.
And most importantly, they need to know if Kimberly is alive or not.
And if she is alive, she needs to come home.
And if she's not alive, somebody needs to come forward.
Without that, it's going to be another year.
What happened to Kimberly?
We don't know just yet, but we do know
what has happened since she went missing.
The LGBTQ community banded together and said enough is enough.
The city of Brownsville created the first of its kind LGBT task force.
Every cause has an effect, and this was the effect of Kimberly's case.
And I think that's a beautiful thing that came from Kimberly's case.
I think it is rare for an LGBTQ task force to take effect anywhere
on the border, let alone Brownsville.
But to see it be born here in Brownsville is a great thing.
And just because it's rare doesn't mean that it shouldn't be the norm.
More cities can definitely learn from that.
[Samantha] The trans community and the police department have never had a very good
communication or interaction.
And by having a task force, an LGBT task force that's going to be there
to represent you makes a difference.
[Ivon] It is bittersweet because we would have love for her to be here
and see the changes.
We're still missing her, you know, she's still not home.
So yeah, there's a lot of good things that are coming out.
But at the same time, maybe she paid a high price for it.
[Ramiro speaking in foreign language]
[Oscar] What makes the Avila family so special is that they show up for each other
and for Kimberly over and over and over again.
Every night is a sleepless night,
wondering where their child is,
wondering what's happened to them.
But they don't give up and they lift each other up constantly.
Thank you, everybody.
Sometimes, I'll tell myself maybe somebody, you know,
has her far away, but at least she's alive, you know?
And then there's some days that I'm like, maybe she's no longer here.
But I still have hope that one day I'm going to know,
we're going to know what happened to her.
That's something that...
I'm not giving up, we're not giving up.
Of course, she matters.
She matters a lot,
and...
you didn't just take her away,
you know, if that's the case.
You hurt everybody that loved her...
because we love her very much.
I just...
I just want her home.