- ♪ MTV ♪
\h\h\h- What can we say about this season of "Teen Mom 2"?
How about wow? \h\h\hJust wow.
\h\h\h\h- In October of 2019, someone almost took my life.
\h- It’s just a flurry of emotions, you know?
- I have no idea.
- You have no idea? \hWe have an idea.
- [laughs]
- Cut, let’s start again, guys.
- Just because I had relations \h\hwith someone’s ex-husband,
doesn’t mean I wanna do that every single time.
- Hey, we hung out. Don’t get it wrong.
But like, it was just friends.
- I’m so heartbroken for you.
\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm. - I’m really sorry.
- I wasn’t open to more kids,
but I’m now open to more kids.
- We have a surprise for the entire cast and the audience.
Come on out.
- Ashley.
- I’ma let y’all talk \h\h\h\h\hwithout me
\h’cause I don’t wanna be in none of that [bleep].
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- This is the "Teen Mom 2" reunion.
[upbeat rock music]
[applause]
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWelcome to the "Teen Mom 2" reunion.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m Dr. Drew along with my cohost, Nessa.
- And we’re thrilled to have the cast of "Teen Mom 2" here
\h\h\h\h\hto discuss everything that happened this past season,
\h\h\h\hand we’ll also have some cast members
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hmaking their first ever reunion appearances.
\h\h\h\hIt’s a packed show, so let’s get right into it.
Please welcome the moms.
First up: Briana, Leah,
Ashley, and Jade.
\h\h\h\h\hUnfortunately, Kail chose not to attend
\hthis reunion in person, but we will speak to her
on video chat later \h\h\hin the show.
\hBut before we get to that, let’s take a quick look back
at some of the ups and downs
from this turbulent season \h\h\h\h\hof "Teen Mom 2."
♪ ♪
- Whoo, okay.
- [screams] - [laughs]
- Where did you come from?
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Go, go! Oh, stay on it, baby!
[screams]
\h- Would it be okay if I give you a text,
\h\h\h\hand maybe sometime we talk about it--meet up?
- I’m down.
- Like if I said, "All right,
let’s give this another shot."
\h- Thinking about where we are today,
\h\h\h\hit’s a prime example of right person, wrong time.
\h\h\h\h- Did you give him back the ring, or you still have it?
- I gave him back the ring. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI threw it.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI was like, "It’s outside somewhere.
Go look for it."
- You left at 12:10.
\h- Don’t talk to me. - Don’t talk to you?
- No, don’t talk to me. \h\h- Yeah, all right.
\hSean broke down and said that he had to go to rehab.
- Love you, baby.
- [crying] \h\hDaddy.
- I need to count on you \h\h\hto meet me halfway.
We should just split up \h\h\h\h\h\h\hI guess.
\h- That’s the last thing I’ve always wanted was to separate,
especially now that we married.
- Girl, you better divorce him.
\h\h- When I decipher what I’m going to do,
I will let everybody \h\h\haround me know.
- It’s all right. \h\h\h\hI’m fine.
I’m about to really \h\h\hget a divorce.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- The first person that’s breaking Stella’s heart
is her own dad.
\h\h- So I had to go to jail for 45 days.
\h\h\h\h- She’s gonna feel very abandoned by people.
- Would you wanna get married?
- I mean, I’m happy with where we are.
\h\h- The last time we filmed, the baby had not been born yet.
Lux and Creed’s half sibling--
- Oh, no, I’m not going there. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Had not been...
- Wait, it’s been born?
\h- I’m not allowed to talk about that.
My lawyer confirmed yesterday.
- Kailyn is trying to sue me for defamation of character.
- Welcome back to another \h\hepisode of "P.T.S.D."
- Hey, guys.
\h\h\h- I don’t know. You just being messy.
\h\h\h- She’s saying that I [bleep] Chris.
\h\h\h\hI’ll [bleep] buy her a treadmill.
Instead of running your mouth, \h\h\h\hrun some [bleep] miles.
- MTV is gonna fire me \h\h\h\h\h\hafter this.
♪ ♪
[applause]
\h\h\h\h\h- It is so nice to see everybody together
on the couch,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand, Leah, you have a lot to celebrate,
lots of happiness, \hlove, joy, right?
- I do, I do.
I love seeing it play out on TV
because it is lots of love, \h\h\h\hhappiness, and joy.
\h- Any surprises this year from the fans and--positive
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hor negative to any of your story, Jade?
- Yeah, I was really surprised \h\h\h\h\hwith how many people
are such dickheads \h\h\hall the time.
[laughter]
Because as everyone watches,
\h\h\hI see so many negative comments,
like, saying how, like, it’s toxic,
and, like, our family \h\his so [bleep] up.
"Oh, my gosh, her daughter must \hhave, like, this rough life."
\hAnd I’m thinking, like, this is happening to us.
It can happen to you.
\h\h\h\h\hIt can happen to the people you love.
It’s so common. \h- So common.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI thank you for shining a light on this.
Looking at everyone, \h\hare there things
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat jumped out that you learned about someone
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hon the cast that you didn’t know before?
Ashley?
\h\h\h- The one thing that stood out to me
\h\h\hmainly ’cause it’s the one thing
that I said out to Bar \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwas Sean.
I spoke with Jade about Sean, \hand he was visiting Kloie,
and he just looked amazing, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand--
\h- Yeah, I think Bar was working hard too.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - Bar was working--
- He was really working hard. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m--
\h\h\h- It was good to see both of them,
\h\h\hand even when me and Jade weren’t good,
\h\h\hthey both seemed to be able to maintain,
like, a support system \h\h\h\hfor each other.
So we were really rooting \h\h\hfor Sean for that.
\h\h- Leah? - I agree.
\h\h\h\hJust me personally struggling with addiction,
to look at him, and talk about \h\hhim going to the facility,
\h\h\h\h\hand talking to you at the "Teen Mom" family reunion,
it was just--he looks amazing. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt’s growth.
- Yeah.
\h- And, Briana, is there something that jumped out
to you that you learned \habout the other moms?
- I think we’ve all--are going through something,
and it’s hard looking back \h\h\h\h\hand watching it,
but look at where we are today.
\hWe’re not the same person that we were filming this.
So I think kudos to everybody. \h\h\h\h\h\h- All right, okay.
\h\h\h\h\hSo Kail didn’t want to do this reunion in person.
\h\hLeah, any idea why that would be?
\h- I have no idea. - You have no idea?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- No. - Do you have an idea?
\h\h\h\h\h- [laughing] Yeah, we have an idea.
- I really have no, I mean-- \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Go ahead.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- [laughs] - Well, what do you mean?
They don’t get along.
- Briana. \h- Yeah.
- Briana, what do you think? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIs that it?
- I guess, yeah.
- She’ll never sit next to me \h\h\h\h\hon a couch--never.
\h\h\h- Now, Kail also claimed that she is asked more about--
\h\hsort of bugged more about her co-parenting relationships
than, say, you, is that true?
- That’s why I thought \h\h\hshe wasn’t here.
She stopped filming, right?
\hI really haven’t been talking to her as much.
- So you don’t know \h\hwhat going on?
- Yeah.
\h\h- You guys used to be pretty close.
- We were pretty close. \h\h- Something happen?
\h\h\h\h- Of course, I went to the "Teen Mom" family reunion.
\h\h\h\h\h\hShe was upset about a self-growth post.
But as far as anything
other than that, \hI have no idea.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Ashley, do you wanna respond to that?
- I’ma let y’all talk about Kail without me
\h’cause I don’t wanna be in none of that [bleep].
\h\h\h\h\h\hSo let me know when y’all talking about--
- I agree actually.
- What you wanna know, Drew? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- You’re here.
- I didn’t think anyone \h\h\h\h\hwas talking--
\h\h- What happened? - Yeah, I’m confused.
- I don’t know.
- I don’t know what’s going on.
\h\h- I honestly have no-- I’m so clueless right now.
\hBut what do you want to know, Dr. Drew, besides them leaving?
- Let’s see.
There was a rumor that Kail got mad
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hat Leah for joining the family reunion.
- I think that’s what it is.
I think Kail no longer wants \h\h\h\h\hto be Leah’s friend
because Leah is nice to me.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh. - I think that’s what it is.
That’s all it comes down to.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hSo I spoke to Leah backstage, like,
\h\h\h"Hey, if you want a friendship with Kail,
\h\h\h\h"like, me and you don’t have to be friends.
\h\h\h\h"I don’t even have to look at you.
"Like, we can keep distance \h\h\h\h\h\hif you worship
that friendship with Kail."
And then that was it.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I really-- does that answer the question?
- I don’t know what’s going on. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI don’t know.
- To me, them walking away--
- We haven’t really gotten \h\h\h\hinto anything yet,
so I don’t know.
- Them walking away makes it seem like
she’s in control.
Why are we making this \h\h\h\h\h\habout her?
She’s not even [bleep] here.
Well, they knew those questions \h\h\h\h\h\hwere gonna come up.
This is the [bleep] reunion.
- Welcome back, Ashley.
- Welcome back.
- Hola.
- Ashley, please. - Yeah, I just--
I just want to make sure
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat we know how you’re feeling right now
\h\h\h\h\h’cause that’s what’s most important.
- I am cool with Kail. \h\h\hY’all know that.
\h\hLike, I just don’t want to be in the middle of it.
I’m cool with both of y’all, \h\h\hand I don’t want to be
in the middle of it.
That’s it.
\h\hI don’t feel like I need to be present
\hfor a conversation about someone that’s not present.
- I got you.
I just wanna make sure you knew
\hthat she is gonna be checking in virtually.
We will talk to her.
- Okay, well, a lot of heavy \h\h\hfeelings flying around.
We will get to everybody’s-- \h\hgive everyone opportunity
\hto come out here and talk about it.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hSo we’ll be back with more "Teen Mom 2" reunion
right after the break.
♪ ♪
- I’m not gonna be \h\h\hdisrespected.
I’m not talking about Kail. \h\h\hGive me ten minutes.
\h\h\h\h\h- Okay, all right. - Leave me alone, thank you.
- You made you point, okay.
♪ ♪
[upbeat rock music]
- And we're back with the "Teen Mom 2" reunion,
and with us on the couch, we have Leah.
- Hi.
♪ ♪
- Leah was in a much happier place this season,
thanks in no small part to finding a new love.
But there've been some obstacles
such as navigating a long-distance relationship,
looking to start a new career.
Here's a look back at Leah's journey this season.
♪ ♪
- Ah, ahh!
Oh, Mom, I'm gonna die.
- There's a guy that I met at the concert,
and he's pretty cool.
So where are you from? - I'm from Charlotte.
I live in Georgia currently-- in Augusta, Georgia.
I think it's important to not only just text
but to see each other face to face.
- Absolutely.
- These are the twins up here?
- Yeah, that's the twins when they were babies.
- Aw, that's cute. I like it.
- He asked me to be exclusive.
And that, like, gives me butterflies.
I'm like, "All right."
- Hey, babe. What's goin' on?
- I've just been studying for this real estate gig.
Mommy has an exam today.
Dude, I'm just-- I'm frustrated.
I shouldn't have filmed.
Can you do me a favor and pull that camera down?
Hurry up.
Dude, you're never gonna [bleep] believe this.
They couldn't even start my exam, basically.
[screams]
- So I got some exciting news, babe.
- Tell me.
- I gonna be moving to Charleston eventually.
- No, you're not. [gasps]
- I can tell that your mom really loves you guys,
and I'm happy to be a part of the family.
Um... - Not yet.
[laughter] - Not yet?
- When's he gonna pop that ring out?
- I have my happy ending without marriage.
I think we have different views on marriage,
and that's perfectly okay right now.
- I think once you see it, and once you experience it,
I think it'll change your mind and mine.
- I've definitely experienced marriage,
and you haven't.
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♪ ♪
- All right, Leah, what are some of the emotions
you're feeling after watching that?
- Oh, I love just seeing my kids thriving.
I think that's what I love seeing most.
I know the real estate exam,
that was a very frustrating day,
and I was like, "It's time to pull the cams."
Just--sometimes I need a break.
I need a break from the cameras,
especially in moments
that are intense like that, so...
- You're taken away the high comedy from us.
- So sorry. [laughing]
Like, I pulled 'em down for a second.
- Who knows what your kids might say?
- At the time that you and Jaylan
started to get to know each other,
were you looking to start dating,
or was it just unexpected?
- It was definitely unexpected.
I think that's why I was so guarded.
I think I was just living my life, doing me.
- What are some things that you really enjoy about him?
- I love the way he is with my kids.
I love the way he is with me.
He knows how to calm me down too.
Like, he just feels good.
- Yeah. - It just feels--
- Although I missed something
while I was watching the season
when he brings up marriage,
and you're like, "Ugh."
- Right.
- Okay, I think everyone has
their perception of marriage.
For me, I don't want marriage to change anything.
I don't want marriage to change what we have now.
- It doesn't have to. - It doesn't have to.
But I think for me personally, it has in the past.
- It scares you, I get it. - It has in the past.
It's been, like, either a control thing
or--I don't--I mean,
for me, it's like, let's just take our time.
I wanna get to know you. Let me love you.
- Have those views changed at all since the season?
Or are you still kind of--
- It has changed because he brought something
to where he's so...
I just understand him.
I understand him differently,
and I can listen to him differently,
and he's brought a perspective to me that--
it does--I mean, I guess that commitment changes things.
- And how important was it for you to make sure
that the girls were ready to meet Jaylan?
- So important.
That's why I definitely got to know him
before I even introduced--
I wanted to know what kind of person he was.
Are you a person I want around my kids?
And took me a little bit, but he was.
- Was there a moment where they're like,
"Mom, we really like Jaylan."
- When they told him they loved him.
That's when I was like, "They love you."
- Wonderful, okay, so here you are
in your real estate journey, right?
What's gonna happen when you show up, you know,
to show a family a brand-new house,
and they realize, this is Leah from "Teen Mom 2"?
How are you gonna handle a situation like that?
- Let me show you this house. Let me show you this house.
I'm so excited. I know that I'm on TV.
I think it's been a journey to--for me
from the very beginning to prevent teen pregnancy.
I just want to--yeah, I just--like, let's interact.
I think for so long I was a little...
- Closed? - Yeah.
So now it feels great interacting with people,
getting to know different people.
I mean, I love it.
- Well, after the break, we'll get to know
Leah's boyfriend, Jaylan,
and find out what the future holds for them.
Stick around.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
- Welcome back.
We’ve been speaking with Leah \h\habout her new boyfriend,
and now he’s here with us.
Please welcome Jaylan.
\h\h\h- Jaylan. - Hey, Jaylan.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Hey. - How you feeling?
- I’m feeling good.
- What’s the vibe so far?
\hAre you still nervous, or are you feeling okay?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I mean, she makes it easy for me.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hSo I mean, I’m a little bit nervous.
It’s my first reunion, so...
- Now, were you familiar \h\h\h\hwith "Teen Mom 2"
and Leah before you two started dating at all?
- I wasn’t really familiar \h\h\h\h\h\hwith the show.
\h\hI really didn’t watch it that much,
\h\h\hand to be honest, when we started dating,
I really didn’t go back \h\h\h\h\hand watch it.
\h\hSo I didn’t wanna get caught up in any of that.
\h\h\h\hI just kind of wanted to get it straight from her.
- And when did you \h\hstart thinking
\h\h\h\h\habout this as something serious?
\h\h\h\h\h- I would say right before we went to Costa Rica,
\h\h\hwhen I made the decision to ask her to be my girlfriend.
- And did you feel intimidated \hby someone having three kids?
It’s a lot.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- No, I think before meeting her,
I probably never saw myself \hwith somebody with kids,
but just being with them, \h\h\h\h\hI’m like, man,
this is something special,
\h\h\hand I wanted to be a part of it.
- Is it pressure filled \h\h\hto sort of serve
that function of stepfather?
\h\h\h\h- I see myself as a bonus dad to them.
- Bonus dad.
\h\h\h\h\h- You know, for me, when I came into their life,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI never wanted to take the place of their dad.
I still don’t want to.
\h\h\h\h\hI’m here to support. - Thank God you don’t need to.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah, I’m here to support them
\h\hand what--you know, what they wanna do with the girls,
\h\h\h\hand I mean, we got a pretty good relationship.
and at the end of the day,
it’s all about the girls, \h\h\h\h\hyou know, so...
\h\h\h\h- And now you two bought a house together.
- Yeah, yeah.
- Congratulations. \hboth: Thank you.
- I saw the pictures.
\h\h\h\h\hReally amazing. How did this come about?
\h\h\h\hWhose decision? Who wanted to do this?
Were there any hesitations? So many questions about it.
- Yeah, when I moved there, \h\h\hI rented a place out.
So I was already staying \h\h\hin different place,
\h\h\h\h\h\hbut every night, we were together pretty much,
\h\h\h\h\hand I think when it feels right,
it just feels right,
\h\hand I know for us, we just kind of nodded,
and it was like, let’s do it.
- I think that’s a sign that Leah’s opening up.
\h- I just wanted to take my time.
\h\h\hI think I’ve rushed into things in the past.
\h\hI think it’s okay to guard your heart.
- This time you’ve let it \h\h\h\hkind of proceed.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
Are both your names \hon the property?
\h\h- He surprised me with that ultimately.
- So it’s your property? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
\h\h- And you wanted everyone to move in?
- Yeah, yeah.
- When we were looking \h\h\h\hat the season,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hobviously, there were some hesitations
\habout marriage from Leah’s side.
Where are things for you, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hJaylan?
Do you still want \hto get married?
\h- Right now I’m just gonna keep loving her and the kids,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand that’s all I’m worried about right now.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWe’ll get to that point eventually.
If not, then we won’t,
\h\h\h\hbut I don’t think it will dictate the love,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, the love for each other.
- Yeah, that we have. \h\h\h\h\h- So yeah.
- And how about for you, Leah?
- Same, same.
I’m open to it.
- I wanted Jaylan to hear that.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - I just wanna make sure.
\h\h\h- Yeah. [both laugh]
\h\h\h- And, Leah, can I ask you this?
\h\h\hThe Kail thing has been swirling around this reunion.
I don’t understand quite what’s \h\h\hgoing on, I really don’t.
- I wish I knew
\h\h\h\h\h\ha little bit more of where the disconnect was.
She definitely got a little bit upset
\habout a self-growth post of Briana’s that I hearted,
but at the "Teen Mom" \h\h\hfamily reunion,
I kind of got to know everyone \h\h\h\h\hon a different level.
- Yeah.
- Did you notice a shift
\h\h\h\hbetween you and her as far as your friendship?
- I noticed the shift \h\h\h\h\hdefinitely
after the "Teen Mom" \h\h\hfamily reunion,
and I equally--you know what?
\h\h\h\hI care about Kail. I wanna see them both win--
I wanna see everyone win. \h\h\h\h\hI don’t want--
\h\h\h- I don’t think it was intentional to hurt anybody.
- Yeah, the treadmill incident.
\h\h\hI had no idea about that until Kail mentioned it to me.
So I had no idea. \h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
\h\h\h- You know what I mean? I have--I wish them the best.
At the end of the day, \h\hI just don’t want--
- Might wanna just reach out. \h- In between the conflict.
- I’ve tried. \h- Have you?
- I’ve tried.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah, and as always, you know,
\h\hwe’re trying to heal things on behalf of the kids, I mean,
I know your girls would love \h\h\hto see the boys again.
\h- I know. They would.
- And, Leah, did you wanna talk \h\h\h\h\habout why, you know,
when you first got up on stage with everyone, you walked off?
\h\h\h\h\h\h- I don’t want to be a part of any drama.
\hThat’s just not-- that’s not for me.
\h\h- So your concern was that what we were going to get into
was of a dramatic nature \hor contentious nature?
You just didn’t wanna \hbe around for that.
- Yeah, yeah, I don’t--exactly.
\h\h\h\h\hI mean, I just know that everyone feels strongly
about certain situations, and I just would rather--
I’d rather just not be \ha part of it at all.
\h\h\hI mean, I want you to feel however you feel,
but I’m gonna choose \hto step away when--
\h\h\h\h\h- Sure, but just know this show is for you guys not--
- Right.
\h\h\h\h- I love us, but it’s not for us.
Well, thank you so much \hfor being here today,
\hand we think you two make an amazing couple,
and we are excited to watch your love continue to grow.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- Up next, we have Ashley and Bar,
\h\h\h\h\hwho will describe how their marriage hit rock bottom
and how they were able \h\h\hto rise back up.
And that is coming up \h\h\hwhen we return,
so do not go away.
♪ ♪
\h- This is as close as we’ve ever gotten
\h\h\h\hto being this serious, and then cutting it like this--
- I love Bar with all my heart,
\h\h\h\h\hand the way that I act sometimes
\h\hmay not come across that way.
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Welcome back to the "Teen Mom 2" reunion.
Here with us now, Ashley and Bar.
[applause]
As we saw this season,
being newlyweds isn't always a nonstop honeymoon.
After hitting a rough patch early on,
these two have worked through it
and are now living happily with their daughter, Holly.
But Bar is still dealing with legal issues,
and there are complications with each of their parents.
Let's refresh our memories
on Ashley and Bar's journey this season.
♪ ♪
- Look, you good.
Now look at the camera. - Give me a quick smile!
- No, look at the camera, baby. - [laughs]
While the cameras weren't around,
Bar and I went and got married.
I feel like we're going in circles in our relationship.
- Me and Ashley are definitely at a rough spot.
- What is y'all status?
What is y'all's official status?
- What do you mean? We're not together.
- I have to save my relationship
'cause it's it's dwindling
because of my actions.
- I strongly suggest you file for a separation.
- I don't know what I'm doing right now,
So I'm not gonna file for [bleep].
- How you feeling with the whole Bar thing?
Like, do you know anything-- I mean, I'm not trying
to pressure you or anything.
I'm just trying to see, you know.
- I'm getting frustrated.
You don't understand that people are married
in real life, trying to work it out in real life.
So I say give me time, give me the [bleep] time.
I think I'm done.
- She left. [bleep]
- I love our relationship, so I do want to save it.
So what I need from you is discipline
in whatever you're choosing to do with your life.
- Right. Deal?
[soft music]
- Deal.
- I know that you lost your ring...
- Yeah, like a dumb ass.
- I have solved that problem for you.
- [laughs]
♪ ♪
Same one. Come on, let's go!
Putting the ring back on for both of us symbolizes
that we are recommitted.
[applause]
- To see where everything started and to see
how everything ended on such a positive note,
and we wanna see the progress,
but it doesn't always happen, right?
But we get to see it happen with you two.
How did it get to that point? We'll start with you, Bar.
- At the end of the day, we both know that, like,
we wanna be with each other.
I think we just really fully realized, like, all right,
this is like the last time.
This is as close
as we've ever gotten to being this serious
and then cutting it like this,
but then at a certain point after the family reunion,
it was like, all right, well, we could try this
one more time and see if we could work it,
and then it just kind of blossomed
into slowly start repairing [bleep] as well.
- Ashley, how about for you?
What do you feel was the turnaround?
Because honestly, watching you at the beginning of the season,
you were pretty fed up.
- Yeah, I think there was a few things happening.
Everyone that I grew up around was married.
Like, my grandparents have been married for, like, 50 years.
My mom has been married to my dad
for, like, 20-something years,
and so I think I had this idea of what marriage was
because I saw them married and I saw how they worked,
and so my first instinct was to run.
Hey, I'm out, you know?
I'm not about to be in a [bleep] up marriage.
I'm out, you know?
And then when we went to TMFR,
Coach B really said some things to me
that kind of hit me in a...
In a different way,
and some things about me that I didn't realize.
And--thank you, Dr. Drew.
- It's okay, baby.
- And when we went home, I just...
I really wanted to make those changes
'cause I love Bar with all my heart,
and the way that I act sometimes
may not come across that way
'cause I'm dealing with my own [bleep].
- Can you share with us what that was,
what those things are?
- I've been through a lot in my life,
and so to protect myself,
I've developed a language, you know?
I can back you up without putting my hands on you.
You know, that's how I protect myself.
But he's not the person I need to protect myself against,
and so sometimes that I feel like
I need to be protected or shielded,
I give that to him, and it breaks him down.
And that's not--it's just,
I didn't realize that about myself,
and I really wanted to change that,
and I think that's the moment where I was like, you know,
this--it's not just him.
It's me, and there's a lot of work.
- What was the issue with him?
- I just wanted him to be passionate about something.
Like, Bar will go to work all week.
He'll give me his check.
He'll come home from work, cook dinner, and run me a bath,
and that's great, but I want him
to have something that ignites fire in him
because he needs that.
We all need to be passionate about something,
and I think I wanted that so much for him
that it was maybe coming across in a way that wasn't helpful.
- What are some of the tools that you've been doing
to maintain that or improve that?
- I don't think it's an overnight thing.
I still freak out, but I think my thing is coming back
and, like, I can come back immediately
and say, you know what, that was [bleep] up.
I shouldn't have said that. I shouldn't have did that.
And I think that-- just that for me,
just being able to say, "You know what?
"That was too far, and you need to apologize.
"You need to let the other person know
"that I was reacting, and I wasn't really giving you
my true feelings and my true self."
And then I think that moment is where I can say,
"Let me tell you how I really feel."
- Mm-hmm, got it.
And do you feel like it's been working, Bar?
Do you feel the communication has improved?
- Yeah. I ain't gon' lie, 100%.
Like, it's still a lot of work
to be done in a lot of areas,
and of course, like, it's not a overnight thing.
- Ashley, have you spent time with Shen recently?
- I have. Yeah, we--
- She seems very cool.
- Yeah, we're on a lot better terms
than previously, yeah.
- Did just you guys
getting along better help that, or...
- I think it was kind of the opposite
'cause when he was getting on my nerves,
his mom really took my side.
- It's nice for me to hear my mom be like,
"Hey, you're wrong, she's right,
and you need to fix your [bleep]."
I'm like,
"Okay, well, she's right.
"I need to fix my [bleep], y'all.
So I'ma go take care of it," like...
- I mean, you're really just one family,
and it's slowly coming together, like...
- Like, it's supposed to. - Yeah, like it's supposed to.
- Yeah.
- Shen was supposed to be out here with you guys.
What happened?
- Me and my mom had, like, our own thing going on, but--
- Nothin' happened with me. - She--they're still cool.
- You're cool. How is that for you?
- They still cool. - Huh?
- They're still cool. - Yeah.
- Like, they don't-- me and my mom
had our own little discrepancy about--
- Okay. - There was a miscommunication.
Like I said, you know, it was just--
it's her first reunion.
She not used to having none of this stuff.
- She's very sensitive to you.
- And she's emotional.
- And I think this is overwhelming.
This is-- - Right, it's a lot.
- Is overwhelming, having-- - She's taking a beat.
She'll be out here later. - Yeah.
- Yeah, right, right, right. - All right.
So Shen is gonna join us in part two.
Up next, we dive into Jade's story.
[upbeat music]
- You have to just accept there are gonna be times
you're not gonna be okay,
and it's okay to not be okay.
- When things went bad, they were just so bad.
♪ ♪
[upbeat music]
- Welcome back to the "Teen Mom 2" reunion.
We're now sitting with Jade.
[applause]
Buying a house, partner in rehab,
really carrying the load for Kloie,
still looking out for your mom, it was a lot.
How are you feeling looking back
on everything that happened?
- I think just being grateful for every moment that I was in.
My own self, my mental health
is really what helped get me through that times.
But I think you have to just accept there are gonna be times
you're not gonna be okay, and it's okay to not be okay.
- And how are things between you and Sean right now?
- We are in a really, really good spot.
I think this is the happiest we've ever been,
but I think what makes me feel so good is watching him
genuinely be happy,
and I think that his self-love and his self-talk
is so different for him that he can love me
and other people on such a different level
because the way he's loving his self
and feeling like he's not ashamed,
and he values himself so much more.
- You know, last time I saw you,
you and Christy were sort of split.
Is she now watching Kloie again?
- Not really watching Kloie again,
but I've recently had her more in my life.
I think for a long time, I just kind of did
the love you from a distance kind of thing.
- How's the relationship now?
- I think we just started kind of reconnecting
and talking, and, you know, I always tell her
if we can keep something that's positive and that's healthy,
then we can have a relationship,
but if it gets negative or if it's--I feel like
it's gonna drag me down, then I just can't be too close.
- Now in past reunions, you know,
we've seen you and Christy have difficult interactions,
but she is here today, and only if it's okay with you,
could we bring her out and have a discussion
about what happened this season?
- Yeah, sure. That's fine.
- All right, let's welcome Jade's mom, Christy.
[upbeat music]
Hey, Christy.
- Hi. - Hi.
- Mom, you look cute. - Thanks.
- It's so great to see you, Christy.
- You too. - So how are you doing?
- A lot better.
So I'm working and just trying to be better,
you know, better person all around.
So I guess that's all I can do, you know?
I'm a work in progress.
- And how's that been going so far?
- [sighs]
I'm just trying to change my whole life.
Like, there's a lot of things
I would like to change that aren't changed.
But, I mean, I'm trying. That's what I can do.
- Like what? What's not changing?
- I'm not happy.
I'm just not happy, like,
my relationship, and that's a lot, you know?
- I'd tell her all the time that I think maybe,
like, therapy or doing stuff
for just her inner-- just her mental health.
I think that she puts-- like, she holds so much in
that as soon as she sits here to even talk,
she's almost in tears-- - Yes.
- 'Cause there's so much that's bottled up
that if you peel off one layer,
it's ready to just explode, you know?
- If it's the relationship,
why not get some couples counseling?
- I don't want to.
- Are you living with Corey now?
- Yeah. - Do you want it to be over?
- Yeah.
He's got some mental issues,
and some emotional issues to deal with his self, and--
- And he--I don't think he's willing to do that,
So it was kind of-- - No.
And I'm trying to, like, grow from here,
you know, and trying to be better.
- And I think he is-- - I don't think he is--
- He's just content. - I feel stuck.
Like, when you get so deep, and you're just drowning, and--
- She feels obligated to, like, take care of him.
- Hm, okay, let me ask you this,
your jail sentence.
- Mm-hmm. - What's the status of that?
- I took probation instead.
- And does that include any treatment?
Substance treatment?
- A substance abuse evaluation, which I haven't done.
I just got put on probation, so...
- Embrace that drug treatment. It's not so bad.
- No, I mean, I think--I mean, I've been addicted
to probably everything I've ever loved,
you know, so I could use it--
- You have told me, and maybe it's time
to do something about that.
- I mean, I could use--I've seen a therapist, so...
- But drug treatment is a little different.
You're a lot better than the last time I saw you.
- Yeah, and I hope to be better
than that the next time you see me.
- Wonderful. How do you feel Sean is doing?
- Good.
- Do you think they should be romantically involved?
- Well, I don't want her
to be romantically involved with anyone.
- Why, why?
- No, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.
If they're happy,
and Sean's doing well, and Kloie's happy,
and Jade's happy then, by all means--
- Seems like Sean's doing pretty good, right?
- I mean, by all means, if that's
what makes them happy,
then that's what--then, of course, I want them to be.
- Okay, all right, thank you for coming here, Christy.
Up next, we're gonna bring out Sean to hear
about his time in rehab and his life of recovery.
Don't go away.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Welcome back.
\h\h\hWe have been out here with Jade,
and we are joined now by Sean.
[applause]
- This season started with a huge surprise.
Sean decided to seek treatment
for his substance \hmisuse disorder
and left for Texas for several months.
\h\h\h\hLet’s watch how Jade handled herself this season.
♪ ♪
- Yay!
- You’re not putting a grape \h\h\h\h\hon my pinkie nail.
♪ ♪
Are you kidding me?
- But you’re not gonna talk \h\h\h\h\hto me like that.
- Why would I not be mad?
My client’s been sitting there \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor ten minutes--
- Yeah, you shouldn’t \h\hhave called me--
\h- And it’s been 15 minutes-- - After you were already late.
\h\h- We’re definitely having a talk when I get back here.
- No, we’re not.
\h\h\h- I brought it to Sean’s attention
that I was just very unhappy.
Next thing you know, \h\h\hhe’s on a plane
to start a three-month \h\h\h\hrehab program.
\h\h\h\h- When me and Dad got pulled over three years ago,
\h\h\h\hhe had weed in there, but they charged me with it.
- Just stressed out \h\h\hwith my mom,
just negative energy \h\h\h\hall the time.
- I didn’t go to jail.
\h\h\h- Well, I guess that’s great for you.
I don’t really care. I guess good for her.
So I went and looked \h\h\h\h\hat a house,
and I put in a cash offer.
- Oh, that’s good.
- We just got a new house.
- Where is Daddy gonna sleep \h\h\h\hat in our new house?
- I don’t know, baby. \h\h\h- Can he stay?
- You want him to stay forever? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
Daddy!
- [laughing]
I learned how to be myself \h\h\h\h\h\h\hand just get
\h\h\has much as I can out of this experience.
- I’ve always loved \h\h\hwho you were.
\h\h\h\h\hI always thought you were more than enough.
- You’ll make me cry.
Are you happy I’m staying?
- Yes. - Yeah.
\h\h- She deserves two great parents.
♪ ♪
- She does deserve two great parents,
and I think you guys are giving her that.
Hey, man, what’s happening?
\h\h\h- A whole lot. - What got you there?
- Just--it’s just a flurry \h\h\h\h\h\h\hof emotions,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, just seeing how I treated them.
They didn’t deserve it, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know.
- In your disease? \h\h\h- Yeah, yeah.
\h\h\h\h\h- What was your drug of choice?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- No. - Methamphetamine.
\h\h\h- No? - Why not?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- No, I just feel like it’s just--
\h\h\h\h- I’m trying to be open about it.
- Jade, you get all this now.
\hAre you forgiving him for where he was, or...
\h\h\h- I think him just saying like out loud, like, what drug.
I feel like just hard drugs.
It’s just such a--I just hate
\h\h\h\hwhen people act like we’re bad parents.
And I almost feel like saying \htoo much and being so open,
it’s like they just use ammo \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hagainst you
\h\h\h\h\h\hto just try to drag you down and--
\h\h\h- So you’re afraid of the social media mob?
- Yeah, and then the shame \h\h\hand the embarrassment
that I’ve carried for a long time.
\h\h\h\h\h\hAnd it’s something that I’m still working on now.
\hLike, it’s still a work in progress.
\hSo just hearing him say things out loud,
it just--like, I don’t like it.
- Are you angry with Sean,
or you got some stuff \h\h\h\hyou need to--
- No.
- Some resentment still \h\hfrom when he was--
- I’m not angry with him.
\h\h\h\h\hI think it was more that I wanted him to see me.
I wanted him to see me hurting \h\h\h\h\h\h\hand be empathic.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay, anything you wanna tell her
about what she’s been \h\hdescribing here?
- She has every right to feel \h\hthose feelings, you know,
that’s normal, that’s human, \h\h\h\h\h\hbut I do--I mean,
I can’t say sorry enough, \h\hyou know what I mean?
The only way I can really say \h\h\hsorry is to be that man
that she needed me to be now, \h\h\h\hyou know what I mean?
\h\h\h- Living amends? - Right, living amends.
And then the same thing \h\h\hwith my daughter,
I was, like, confused.
How do I make amends to a kid? \h\h\h\h\hYou know what I mean?
\h\hBut the only thing that I can do is be there for her
\h\h\h\hand be that dad that she needs me to be.
- And so for you,
all of that is contingent \h\h\h\hon staying sober?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. - So number one, stay sober.
- Number one. - Number one.
- It’s like, sobriety, \h\h\heverything else.
You know what I mean? \h\h\h\h- Yeah, yeah.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hJade, how is your relationship now?
- I think it’s really good. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
\h\h\h\h\h\h- How did you find that romantic attachment again
after this new sense \h\h\hof each other?
\h\h- Oh, it was--it was like immediate, like, immediately.
\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - It was quick?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - So there is some--
- Been hitting the gym, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughter] - He was looking too good.
\h\h\hSo there is some core something between you two.
- Oh, yeah.
\h\h\h\h\h- Some deep passionate something.
- Yes, for sure. - Oh, yeah, yeah.
\h\h\h\h- I’ve never been able to feel this true love feeling
\h\h\h\h\hfor anybody else, besides, like, a loved one.
- You’ve been--you’ve been \h\hsuper clear about that
\h\hall along even though it was through all the--
- Well, yeah, but like--
- But she’s been in love more--
- I wasn’t showing it. \h\hNow I can show it.
And now she sees that. \hShe appreciates that.
\h- Can you help people understand
\hwhat that feeling is that you have for Jade?
I think people would love \h\h\h\h\h\hto hear that.
- It’s--for me, it’s just like, \h\h\hwhen you know, you know.
- I’ll tell you the words \hthat I hear people say
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwhen I see this kind of attachment.
- Yeah.
- They--somebody will say, that’s the love of my life.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - Are those the right words?
- For sure, yeah.
\h\h\h\h\h- Do you like that you are the love of his life?
- Do I like that?
\h\h\h- Yeah. - Yeah, yeah.
\h\h\h- And how long have you been sober?
- Today is actually my nine-month mark.
- Congratulations. - Congratulations.
Go, Sean, yay.
That’s amazing. \h- Thank you.
\h\h\h- Jade, what are some of the biggest differences
\h\h\h\hyou’ve noticed since Sean’s been home?
- He reminds me of the person \hthat I met a long time ago.
\h\hLike, happy--I’m trying not to cry ’cause I’m like,
I’m just--
\h- Don’t cry ’cause then I’ma be here crying too.
\h\h\h- I’m happy for him. I’m happy to see him happy.
\h\h\hI think that is what’s so important,
and it all comes down \h\h\hto like Kloie.
\h\hHer having a happy and healthy Mom and Dad
is so important for her.
\h\h- Jade, what does your life look like five years from now?
- In five years from now...
- Wait, five years? \h\hTwo more kids.
- Two more kids, all right. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Wow.
- Jade’s like, "What?"
- Yeah, ’cause he’s not the one \h\h\hthat has to pop ’em out.
So he’s like, sure. \h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- You know, you can’t predict the future,
but I know that I’m somewhere--
- But you like manifesting. \h\h\h\h- Yes, I manifest.
- How is it gonna manifest? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWhat is it?
- You know, a bigger home.
I’m hoping more children \h\h\hby then, you know,
a good happy marriage,
a happy life, stability, \h\hall the things that,
\h\h\hI mean, we’re building the foundation for that now.
And if we continue to build, \h\hyou know, layer by layer,
all that’s gonna come along \h\h\h\h\h\hso easy to us.
- The joy we feel right now.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI don’t know. I’m just really happy for you.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - We’re rooting for you.
- Thank you. - Keep going.
\h\h\h- Thank you. - This is exciting.
I feel like this is the start
of just so much greatness \h\h\h\h\h\hin your life.
- Thank you. \h- For sure.
\h\h\h\h\h- And up next, we’ll follow up with Kail
about how the season ended \h\h\h\h\h\h\hand find out
whether she’ll continue filming \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"Teen Mom 2".
- Your enemies can’t \h\h\h\h\hbetray you.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hThe people that you have kids with,
and the people that you’ve been \h\h\h\hin a relationship with
can betray you.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Welcome back to the "Teen Mom 2" reunion.
Kail chose not to be here in person,
but we do have her on video chat.
So please welcome Kail.
- Hi, Kail.
- Hello. - Nice.
- How are you?
- I'm good. How are you?
- We're great. We wish you were here.
- I'm glad I'm not.
- Now, Kail took a step away from the show
for a bit this season, so while we didn't see much
of her as we would have liked,
what we did see was a roller coaster of emotions.
Let's look back at everything she went through.
♪ ♪
- What do you guys want for lunch?
- Let's eat Starbucks!
♪ ♪
- Does anyone need a mouthpiece?
- You, so you stop talking.
- Javi, shut the hell up.
- What is going on with Javi?
I'm just gonna lay it out there.
- I know what you're gonna say. - I was at the football game--
- I know what you're gonna say.
- And it was flirty AF.
- Would you be open to it? - Open to what?
- Get back into a relationship?
- I plead the fifth.
- That means a yes, right?
- What's going on with you and Javier?
- Things are so good,
but you never know what's gonna piss him off.
So B comes into my office, and she's like, "I told Javi
that my miscarriage may not have been his,"
which is a complete lie.
- I wish, obviously right now, that I never did that to you--
- Right, of course. - Because, what the [bleep]?
- And like, maybe the podcast is done.
Like, maybe we weren't meant to work together.
I mean, it's sad. - I'm sad.
- It's so sad. - I'm really sad.
- So I saw that Chris is having a new baby.
I hope that he forgets about Lux and Creed
and doesn't want anything to do with them.
- I was gonna ask you
for an update on your lovely lawsuit.
- I'm not discussing that.
- I'm not talking about that.
- No.
They're hounding me
to talk about my baby dads,
but where's Leah talking about Corey and Jeremy?
I'm not respected in the same way as them.
I wanna share that part.
I wanna share all of it with you guys,
but it makes me nervous.
- It's the last day. - Thank God.
♪ ♪
- Well, Kail, in spite of all the struggles
with the dads, the boys seem to be doing great.
How are they?
- They're great. They're thriving.
They're getting good grades. They're all in sports.
Isaac plays piano,
so they're all doing really well.
- Yeah, I love those football scenes.
I mean, that is--
there's some talent you're working with there.
- And from what we saw, it appeared that you
and Javi were, you know, doing well.
Co-parenting was going great.
What happened?
- I think I wasn't ready to face the fact
that Javi and I being
as like friendly and close as we were during the season
is actually more harmful and toxic to the both of us
than we really could have thought.
Like, this whole time, I think that we,
like, kind of romanticized it a little bit.
- So what you're saying,
that Javi got kind of into it, right?
- Yeah, but I also thought maybe this could be good.
Maybe we could get back together,
and then when things went bad, they were just so bad
that I was like, "There's no way."
Well, I think both of us were like,
there's no way that we could do this.
- Do you wanna be in a relationship?
- Right. - A long-term relationship?
- That's what I was thinking.
- Is that what you were thinking?
- That was that look you got from me.
- I may or may not be in a relationship right now.
- Wait, what? - Tell us about him.
- Yeah, tell us about him. Does Javi know about him?
- Javi knows about him,
and Chris also knows about him.
- Okay. - So no secrets over here.
- Can we say hi to him or...
- I'll call him right now.
He'll walk in right now if y'all want him to.
- We'd love him to come in and sit down.
We'd like to talk to him.
- Please. - Tell him to come downstairs.
- Is he here? Why am I doing this?
This is so crazy.
- Why am I nervous? - I know.
I'm looking around the corner there.
- What's going on?
- Hey, hey.
- Squat down.
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\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Next time on the "Teen Mom 2" reunion...
Is this something you’ve shared \h\h\h\h\h\hanywhere publicly?
\h- People know that something happened,
but I’ve never told the story.
- Believe me when I say,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hif I said it, I had just cause to say it.
\h\h\h- I felt, like, I was being silenced.
- You didn’t really say \h\h\h\h\h\hyes or no--
- Yes and no to what, \hif I [bleep] Chris?
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