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<i> - Previously</i>
<i> on the "Teen Mom 2" reunion...</i>

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Ashley--

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- I'ma let y'all talk
without me

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'cause I don't wanna be
in none of that [bleep].

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<i> [dramatic music]</i>

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- I may or may not be
in a relationship right now.

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<i> - Wait!</i>
<i> - So--</i>

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- What?

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<i> - Why am I doing this?</i>

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This is so crazy.

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- I wasn't open to more kids,

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but I'm now open to more kids.

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- Tonight we have a surprise
for the entire cast

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and the audience.

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[all gasp]

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- Oh, my God.
[cheering]

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- I guess you were wearing
Chris' shirt.

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- Me and him
literally have the same shirt.

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<i> - The crazy thing is, is I</i>
<i> forgot I gave her that shirt.</i>

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- Is that your business?

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I don't think so.

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Not Kail's business either.

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She can kiss my ass.

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- Kail, it actually, like,
hurts my heart to hear this.

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I am so sorry.

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I wish I'd known.

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<i> [upbeat music]</i>

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[cheers and applause]

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Welcome to part two
of the "Teen Mom 2" reunion.

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I'm your host, Dr. Drew,
and my cohost Nessa

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will be joining me
in a little bit.

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But for now,
I'm sitting here with Leah,

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Jaylan, Ashley, Bar, Briana,
Devoin, and Jade.

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[cheers and applause]

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And all of them
recently took part

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in the "Teen Mom
Family Reunion,"

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<i> and we wanted to get</i>
<i> your thoughts on what happened</i>

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<i> down in San Diego.</i>

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<i> So, Jade, you first.</i>

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- For me,
it was, like, life-changing.

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I think that separation
from everything at home

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and meeting other people,
getting to know 'em

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it was--it was--it was awesome.

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- Leah.

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- I mean, I had no idea

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what we were walking into

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at the "Teen Mom
Family Reunion."

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But going there, I mean,
I think it was a lot of fun.

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The activities were fun.

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Coach Bryant
really helped me open up more

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and not be so guarded.

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- You were just starting
to feel emotions again.

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- Yeah.
- And Jaylan,

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really, that was
your first experience--

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I guess you'd been in front
of the cameras a little bit,

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but this was a little bit
different environment.

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- Yeah, that was my first time
actually meeting everybody

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in person, so yeah.
- Got it.

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And this is your first time
in, uh, this thing

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we call the reunion show.

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How is that going
for you so far?

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How you feel?
- Well, I mean, it's...

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it is everything
I heard it would be.

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So--
[laughter]

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[indistinct]

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I guess I gotta be ready
for it.

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I'm ready, so let's do it.
Yeah.

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- Ashley.
- I had a good experience.

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I think I learned
a lot of things

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I didn't expect to really learn
from Coach B.

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- Briana.
- I had a blast.

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The best experience
I've had thus far

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with "Teen Mom."
- Oh, good for you.

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And Bar, I noticed
you were really bonding

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with the other dads.

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- Yeah. It was cool.
- Good, right?

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- Yeah, that's always
how it work, though.

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The dads always do that.
[laughs]

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- Well, we have a surprise
for the entire cast

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and the audience.

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Come on out, Coach B.

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[all gasp]
- Oh, [bleep]!

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- Oh, my God!

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[cheers and applause]

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- Hi. How are you?

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- It's good to see you.

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- Welcome, Coach B.

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We appreciate so much
you being here.

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And it's a chance to check in
with everybody

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since you last saw them,
so have at it.

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- Yeah, obviously, we've, uh,
had a lot of breakthroughs

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and shared a lot of moments,

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and Jade,
I wanna start with you.

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If you can kinda just tell me
a little bit of, like,

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what you took from the reunion
and what you've implemented.

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- Well, one thing I can say,

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make sure you process
before you produce.

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I feel like I'm thinking about
a million things all the time,

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so the moment
someone says something,

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in my head,
the first thing that pops up

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probably isn't, like,
the proper thing

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in the moment
because in that moment,

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I know that I might
say something

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or act a certain way

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where I'm like, uh,
I'm probably not gonna be

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comfortable with that,
so how 'bout I go home.

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Lemme sleep on that.

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- That was one of our tools--

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- 'Cause I'm more of a reactor,

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so I think it's me learning
to not just react.

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- Yeah.
- You know?

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- Good for you.
Thank you, Jade.

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Leah and Jaylan,
bring me up to speed

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just a little bit
on how your emotions now

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are healthier and what
that relationship is like

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for yourself.

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- I mean,
I think when it comes up,

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like, I definitely have
conversations with myself.

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Like, I'm not--
I have no reason to be afraid.

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- Mm.
- And being free, being open.

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- Mm.
- It's allowed him

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to move differently too,
I think.

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- Yeah, I mean,
I think for me, it just--

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I just understood
to be patient with her

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and just, you know,
reassure her that I am here.

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And, uh, you know,
just to be patient.

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- So finally, Ashley and Bar.

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I know that we talked a lot
about the roles, right,

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and how his parent issues
was married

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to your need to control
and be mama bear.

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And so your dysfunctions
and your concerns

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actually married each other.

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So I just wanna know,

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have those roles shifted
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- I think it's hard.
- Of course.

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- Because obviously,
like already said,

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our traumas marry.

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Um, and I think part
of my issue is knowing

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that he has trauma and wanting
to protect him from that.

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And on the other hand of that,
I have my own issue

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with wanting things
to go left, right, up, down.

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And so I think
that I'm trying this new thing

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where I'm like, you know what?

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If it doesn't work out for you,
I'm sorry, boo.

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This is on--this is on you.
- There you go.

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- And my ultimate goal
is not to get him

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to be who I want him to be.

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It's for him to be passionate
and love what he wants.

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And in order for me
to let that grow,

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I need to be quiet.

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So thanks, Coach B.
- [laughs]

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- I wanna thank you
for helping them.

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They seem happier
and, more importantly,

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happier with one another.

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Was there something
that stuck out?

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Was there a moment
that really stays with you?

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- It wasn't<i> a</i> moment.

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I think for everyone,

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we connected
at the heart space.

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And I always say,
you connect at the mind space.

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When the memory goes,
there you go.

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But if you connect
at the heart space,

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you have a friend for life.

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And, uh, as much as they keep
saying I helped them

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and I gave them
all these tools--

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- [laughs]
- I was very moved

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by how they all allowed me
to see their heart.

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And I learned so much
from each of them,

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and I added to my toolbox,

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so I wanna be able

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to say thank you to them
in return as well.

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- Aww.
both: Love you.

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- [laughs]
- All the time.

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- To that,
Coach B will be back,

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so don't go away.

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Up next, we'll meet
Kail's new boyfriend.

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[applause]

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<i> ♪ ♪</i>

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- I may or may not be

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in a relationship right now.

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- Tell him to come downstairs.

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<i> - Why am I doing this?</i>

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<i> This is so crazy.</i>
- Hi.

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- What's--what's your name?
Kail won't tell us.

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<i> [upbeat music]</i>

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[cheers and applause]

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- Welcome back
to the "Teen Mom 2" reunion.

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<i> We're back with Kail.</i>
<i> [cheers]</i>

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In part one, you told us
you were seeing someone.

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We'd love him to come in
and sit down.

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We'd like to talk to him.
- Can we say hi to him?

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- [laughs]
<i> - Or...</i>

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please.

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- Tell him to come downstairs.

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<i> - Is he here?</i>
- [laughs]

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<i> - Why am I doing this?</i>

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<i> This is so crazy.</i>

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- Why am I nervous?
- I know--

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- I'm nervous right now.
- Looking around the corner.

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<i> - What's going on?</i>
- Mom.

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- Hey, hey.
- Wait, hold on.

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Can we--
<i> - Squat down.</i>

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- Hi.
- What's--what's your name?

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Kail won't tell us.

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- No, no, no, no, no.
Don't say your name.

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Don't you dare.

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<i> - Nice to meet you</i>
<i> nonetheless.</i>

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<i> - Nice to meet you.</i>

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- You're making Kail
very happy,

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and we thank you for that.

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<i> - No problem.</i>

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- Is she making you happy
as well?

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<i> - Yes.</i>
- Yeah?

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<i> - Very.</i>
- How did you guys meet?

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- Don't tell them.

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<i> - Kail, he's a--</i>
- [laughs]

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- Don't--don't you listen
to her.

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[laughs]
- And that is my cue

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to go back to work.

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- Bye.
- Bye.

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<i> - All right, Kail.</i>

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<i> Let's talk about</i>
<i> you and Briana.</i>

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- I wish I had her address.

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So I could send her a gift.

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I'd [bleep] buy her
a treadmill.

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Instead of running your mouth,
run some [bleep] miles.

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- What went through your mind
when you received the treadmill

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that Briana had sent you?

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<i> - I mean,</i>
<i> at the end of the day,</i>

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I think it's another form
of projection.

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You have to distract people
from your own insecurities

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and from your own self-hate.

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<i> And "Kail's big,</i>
<i> Kail's overweight,</i>

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<i> Kail's this, Kail's that,"</i>

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<i> it distracts her</i>

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from how she feels
about herself.

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- Is it fat-shaming?

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Is that what she's trying
to do?

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- Absolutely.

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- How did you feel
about Chris asking Briana

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to be a guest on his podcast?

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- I don't think I was upset.

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I think it's just another...

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you know, the people--
your enemies can't betray you.

245
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<i> The people that you have</i>
<i> kids with and the people</i>

246
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<i> that you've been</i>
<i> in a relationship with</i>

247
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can betray you,
and so, you know,

248
00:08:13,494 --> 00:08:16,495
that was just another thing
that he did

249
00:08:16,563 --> 00:08:19,197
that was a form of betrayal,
in my opinion.

250
00:08:19,266 --> 00:08:22,133
- And fans noticed
that you had unfollowed Leah.

251
00:08:22,202 --> 00:08:24,336
- I unfollowed every single
person I was following.

252
00:08:24,404 --> 00:08:25,904
<i> [laughs]</i>
<i> I even unfollowed you, Nessa.</i>

253
00:08:25,973 --> 00:08:27,205
- [laughs]
<i> - And, um,</i>

254
00:08:27,274 --> 00:08:29,007
a couple weeks ago,
it was just like,

255
00:08:29,076 --> 00:08:31,409
I was having a meltdown
and unfollowed everyone.

256
00:08:31,478 --> 00:08:33,111
- There's no issues
between you and Leah.

257
00:08:33,213 --> 00:08:35,514
Is that correct?
- As far as I'm aware,

258
00:08:35,582 --> 00:08:37,249
there are no issues
between me and Leah.

259
00:08:37,317 --> 00:08:38,416
- Okay.

260
00:08:38,485 --> 00:08:40,118
Now, Javi was in the mix,

261
00:08:40,220 --> 00:08:41,453
obviously,
we've been discussing.

262
00:08:41,522 --> 00:08:43,088
<i> But he and Vee were</i>
<i> chatting a bit.</i>

263
00:08:43,156 --> 00:08:47,392
And Vee told him
that your miscarriage with Javi

264
00:08:47,461 --> 00:08:48,727
might not have been his.

265
00:08:48,795 --> 00:08:50,462
What was your reaction to that?

266
00:08:50,531 --> 00:08:54,633
- That was a baby
that Javi and I tried for,

267
00:08:54,701 --> 00:08:57,068
so I don't know
why she said that,

268
00:08:57,137 --> 00:08:59,437
but I think
the biggest takeaway for me

269
00:08:59,506 --> 00:09:01,072
is that I have done things
in my life

270
00:09:01,141 --> 00:09:03,275
that I'm not proud of,
and, you know,

271
00:09:03,343 --> 00:09:05,777
if I want other people
to forgive me for things,

272
00:09:05,846 --> 00:09:07,512
then I can't be a hypocrite
and turn around

273
00:09:07,581 --> 00:09:09,047
and not forgive her,
and, you know,

274
00:09:09,116 --> 00:09:10,916
<i> her keeping it a secret</i>
<i> for four years</i>

275
00:09:10,984 --> 00:09:12,851
<i> and starting a podcast</i>
<i> with me,</i>

276
00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,452
that has been the hardest...

277
00:09:14,521 --> 00:09:15,654
<i> - Ooh, boy.</i>
- Part of it.

278
00:09:15,722 --> 00:09:17,589
- Yeah, the deception
- Right, for sure.

279
00:09:17,658 --> 00:09:19,057
- Um, I also never got

280
00:09:19,126 --> 00:09:20,725
to formally apologize
to Jenelle.

281
00:09:20,794 --> 00:09:24,896
I don't think it was fair
for me to have blamed her

282
00:09:24,965 --> 00:09:26,431
for leaking my pregnancy news.

283
00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:27,832
<i> I think when she tweeted me,</i>

284
00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:29,801
<i> she genuinely thought</i>
<i> that the news was out.</i>

285
00:09:29,870 --> 00:09:32,070
I couldn't have ever guessed
that it was Vee and Javi.

286
00:09:32,139 --> 00:09:33,705
<i> Um, I did post it</i>
<i> on my Instagram</i>

287
00:09:33,774 --> 00:09:35,707
<i> just knowing</i>
<i> that I publicly blamed her</i>

288
00:09:35,776 --> 00:09:38,810
<i> for this, so I needed</i>
<i> to also publicly apologize.</i>

289
00:09:38,879 --> 00:09:40,211
<i> - I'm so glad you did this.</i>

290
00:09:40,314 --> 00:09:42,013
<i> All right, Kail, on Instagram</i>

291
00:09:42,082 --> 00:09:44,449
you revealed that you've been
diagnosed with depression.

292
00:09:44,518 --> 00:09:45,984
<i> Do you wanna talk any more</i>
<i> about that</i>

293
00:09:46,053 --> 00:09:48,053
<i> and about what you've done</i>
<i> to take care of yourself?</i>

294
00:09:48,121 --> 00:09:50,221
- Um, I see my therapist
twice a week.

295
00:09:50,290 --> 00:09:53,892
Right now, I think minimizing
my communications with Javi

296
00:09:53,961 --> 00:09:55,627
is the number one thing

297
00:09:55,696 --> 00:09:57,295
that I need
to stay consistent with

298
00:09:57,364 --> 00:10:00,031
<i> because he seems to be</i>
<i> a huge trigger for me.</i>

299
00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:01,633
- Right,
and of course parenting itself

300
00:10:01,702 --> 00:10:03,168
is extremely stressful,

301
00:10:03,236 --> 00:10:06,004
and then dealing
with three dads

302
00:10:06,073 --> 00:10:08,406
with different, you know,
levels of commitment.

303
00:10:08,475 --> 00:10:11,142
I mean, my God, that, to me,
just sounds overwhelming,

304
00:10:11,211 --> 00:10:13,612
and overwhelming
can feel depressing.

305
00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:15,880
- I have a question: have you
always been going to therapy,

306
00:10:15,949 --> 00:10:19,317
or was it something
that led you to want to go

307
00:10:19,386 --> 00:10:20,986
seeing your therapist
twice a week?

308
00:10:21,054 --> 00:10:23,254
- In October of 2019,

309
00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:25,490
someone almost took my life,
and that was--

310
00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,892
- Oh, my gosh.
<i> - You know, the pivotal moment</i>

311
00:10:27,961 --> 00:10:30,829
in my life where I was like,
I need help.

312
00:10:30,897 --> 00:10:33,765
And so I've been in therapy
since then.

313
00:10:33,834 --> 00:10:36,167
- I didn't--don't think I knew
about this traumatic event.

314
00:10:36,236 --> 00:10:37,435
Can you talk to us about it?

315
00:10:37,504 --> 00:10:39,804
Was it, like,
a domestic abuse situation?

316
00:10:39,873 --> 00:10:41,373
Was it just
a random act of violence?

317
00:10:41,441 --> 00:10:43,742
Was it--I mean,
was it somebody you knew?

318
00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:47,012
- Um, Chris almost killed me
in October of 2019.

319
00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,881
With dom--by domestic violence.
<i> - Oh, my.</i>

320
00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:50,949
<i> Okay.</i>

321
00:10:51,018 --> 00:10:52,684
Kail, can I just say,

322
00:10:52,753 --> 00:10:54,519
it actually, like,
hurts my heart to hear this.

323
00:10:54,588 --> 00:10:56,488
I--you know, we've been
with you a long time,

324
00:10:56,556 --> 00:10:58,757
I am so sorry.
I wish I'd known.

325
00:10:58,825 --> 00:11:01,092
<i> No one would know this</i>
<i> if you didn't share it.</i>

326
00:11:01,161 --> 00:11:02,627
I am so heartbroken for you.

327
00:11:02,696 --> 00:11:04,129
I'm really sorry.
<i> - Yeah.</i>

328
00:11:04,197 --> 00:11:06,464
- It's very, very painful
to hear you say this,

329
00:11:06,533 --> 00:11:08,033
and, I mean, my goodness.

330
00:11:08,101 --> 00:11:09,734
<i> I'm so glad</i>
<i> you're in treatment.</i>

331
00:11:09,803 --> 00:11:12,937
- I just haven't figured out
the right time or way

332
00:11:13,006 --> 00:11:15,140
to, you know,
tell my whole story.

333
00:11:15,208 --> 00:11:17,208
- No one knew
you were going through this.

334
00:11:17,277 --> 00:11:18,443
<i> - I don't think it's something</i>

335
00:11:18,512 --> 00:11:21,379
<i> that people</i>
<i> just openly talk about.</i>

336
00:11:21,448 --> 00:11:23,214
I fully acknowledge
that I, you know--

337
00:11:23,283 --> 00:11:25,050
I pushed Javi in 2012,

338
00:11:25,118 --> 00:11:27,819
so I don't get to cry
domestic violence victim

339
00:11:27,888 --> 00:11:30,055
because I also pushed
my ex-husband,

340
00:11:30,123 --> 00:11:32,490
so it makes me a hypocrite.

341
00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:33,558
<i> - Mm, no.</i>

342
00:11:33,627 --> 00:11:36,494
No, they are two
separate phenomenon.

343
00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:39,297
And as many things
in mental health,

344
00:11:39,366 --> 00:11:41,599
people become flip sides
of the same coin:

345
00:11:41,668 --> 00:11:43,835
victim, victimizer.

346
00:11:43,904 --> 00:11:45,403
Both roles go back and forth

347
00:11:45,472 --> 00:11:47,238
in all these things
we're talking about.

348
00:11:47,307 --> 00:11:49,340
So--and they're different.

349
00:11:49,443 --> 00:11:51,009
<i> Not okay.</i>
- Mm-hmm.

350
00:11:51,078 --> 00:11:54,412
<i> - But you were a victim</i>
<i> of domestic violence.</i>

351
00:11:54,481 --> 00:11:58,149
Has--is this something you've
shared anywhere publicly?

352
00:11:58,218 --> 00:11:59,451
- No.

353
00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:01,052
I mean, people know
that something happened

354
00:12:01,121 --> 00:12:02,554
that changed my life,
but I've never--

355
00:12:02,622 --> 00:12:04,622
I've never told the story.

356
00:12:04,691 --> 00:12:05,790
I've never talked about it.

357
00:12:05,859 --> 00:12:07,592
I've never gone into detail.

358
00:12:07,661 --> 00:12:10,762
- And then Chris is now
more visible in the series.

359
00:12:10,831 --> 00:12:13,965
Should he be talking about...

360
00:12:14,034 --> 00:12:15,400
his perspective on all this?

361
00:12:15,469 --> 00:12:17,135
- It's not that I don't want
y'all to question him.

362
00:12:17,204 --> 00:12:20,238
I just--I think that he knows
what he did.

363
00:12:20,307 --> 00:12:21,706
<i> It is what it is.</i>

364
00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:23,708
- I really appreciate
you being open today, Kail.

365
00:12:23,777 --> 00:12:24,943
- Yeah, I do too.

366
00:12:25,011 --> 00:12:27,245
You've refined things
a little more today.

367
00:12:27,314 --> 00:12:28,713
I really thought abandonment...
- Right.

368
00:12:28,782 --> 00:12:31,716
- Was a key problem for you,
but betrayal,

369
00:12:31,785 --> 00:12:36,020
betrayal is really
the real writ large phenomenon

370
00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:37,021
in your life right now.

371
00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:38,957
- Yeah,
I would agree with that.

372
00:12:39,025 --> 00:12:41,593
- And I hope, you know--
and both Nessa and I hope

373
00:12:41,661 --> 00:12:43,361
this is not the end
of your journey.

374
00:12:43,463 --> 00:12:45,964
Do you wanna stay on the show?

375
00:12:46,032 --> 00:12:47,398
<i> - Not necessarily, no.</i>

376
00:12:47,467 --> 00:12:49,134
<i> I think that I need</i>
<i> to move on.</i>

377
00:12:49,202 --> 00:12:51,102
<i> I need to do my own thing.</i>
- Hmm.

378
00:12:51,171 --> 00:12:53,171
I'm not gonna say goodbye
to her today, am I?

379
00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,439
I'm not gonna say--

380
00:12:54,508 --> 00:12:56,074
<i> - I don't know.</i>
<i> I feel like we should.</i>

381
00:12:56,143 --> 00:12:57,542
- Really?
- Whoa.

382
00:12:57,611 --> 00:12:58,710
<i> - Yeah.</i>
- This is like

383
00:12:58,779 --> 00:13:00,245
a breakup right now.

384
00:13:00,313 --> 00:13:01,379
- I think this needs
to be my farewell.

385
00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:02,647
- I wasn't ready for this,
Kail.

386
00:13:02,716 --> 00:13:03,815
<i> - I think I'm ready.</i>

387
00:13:03,884 --> 00:13:05,383
I think
that we just should part ways.

388
00:13:05,485 --> 00:13:06,818
I think this should be the end.

389
00:13:06,887 --> 00:13:07,986
- You will be a huge loss

390
00:13:08,054 --> 00:13:09,554
'cause I have deep affection
for you.

391
00:13:09,623 --> 00:13:11,189
<i> And, you know, you helped, uh,</i>

392
00:13:11,258 --> 00:13:13,792
turn the tide of teen pregnancy
in this country.

393
00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:15,527
You helped do that.
- I hope so.

394
00:13:15,595 --> 00:13:17,762
I hope I had a small part
in that.

395
00:13:17,831 --> 00:13:18,963
<i> - Yep, you did.</i>

396
00:13:19,032 --> 00:13:20,632
- Awesome.
Well, thank you, guys.

397
00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:23,535
- Thank you, Kail,
and we appreciate you.

398
00:13:23,603 --> 00:13:25,537
Please say hi to the kids.
- I will.

399
00:13:25,605 --> 00:13:27,906
- Up next,
we dive into Briana's story.

400
00:13:27,974 --> 00:13:30,642
In the meantime, we'll see
if Chris would like to join us.

401
00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:32,377
[applause]

402
00:13:32,445 --> 00:13:33,411
- Oh, my,
I really felt a lot

403
00:13:33,513 --> 00:13:34,412
of intense emotion--

404
00:13:34,514 --> 00:13:36,848
- That was very unexpected.

405
00:13:36,917 --> 00:13:37,916
- Yeah.

406
00:13:37,984 --> 00:13:38,950
Oh, my goodness.

407
00:13:39,019 --> 00:13:40,351
- That's sad, man.

408
00:13:46,059 --> 00:13:48,293
- Just because I had relations

409
00:13:48,361 --> 00:13:49,861
with someone's ex-husband
doesn't mean

410
00:13:49,930 --> 00:13:51,796
I wanna do that
every single time.

411
00:13:51,865 --> 00:13:53,932
I think she needs to come up
with a better way

412
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,533
to "try to drag me down."

413
00:13:58,505 --> 00:13:59,604
<i> - ♪ I got what you want ♪</i>

414
00:13:59,673 --> 00:14:02,273
<i> ♪ I got what you like ♪</i>

415
00:14:02,342 --> 00:14:04,175
- We're back
with the "Teen Mom 2" reunion,

416
00:14:04,244 --> 00:14:05,810
and it's time to talk
to Briana.

417
00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:07,045
[cheers and applause]

418
00:14:07,113 --> 00:14:09,747
Now, Briana dealt
with more drama this season

419
00:14:09,816 --> 00:14:10,815
than any other mom:

420
00:14:10,884 --> 00:14:13,518
an engagement, a breakup,
a lawsuit,

421
00:14:13,587 --> 00:14:15,653
a health scare
for her younger child,

422
00:14:15,722 --> 00:14:18,590
and inconsistency
from both her kids' fathers.

423
00:14:18,658 --> 00:14:19,757
Let's refresh our memories

424
00:14:19,826 --> 00:14:21,559
of all that Briana
went through.

425
00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:22,827
<i> [upbeat music]</i>

426
00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:25,496
- Sure, go for it.

427
00:14:25,565 --> 00:14:27,498
Say a bad word, Stella.
- Oh, [bleep].

428
00:14:27,567 --> 00:14:28,700
- Oh, my God.

429
00:14:28,768 --> 00:14:29,767
- Oh, [bleep].

430
00:14:29,836 --> 00:14:31,536
- [laughing]
Stella. Okay, that's it.

431
00:14:31,605 --> 00:14:33,104
No more.
- [laughs]

432
00:14:33,173 --> 00:14:34,639
- Kail's baby daddy, Chris,

433
00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:36,875
wants to invite me
on his podcast.

434
00:14:36,943 --> 00:14:39,010
<i> - Did you tell Javi</i>
<i> that you were gonna do this?</i>

435
00:14:39,079 --> 00:14:40,111
<i> - The podcast?</i>
<i> - Mm-hmm.</i>

436
00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:41,246
- What did he say?

437
00:14:41,314 --> 00:14:43,014
- What can he say?

438
00:14:43,083 --> 00:14:44,215
- What happened
to you and Javi?

439
00:14:44,284 --> 00:14:47,485
- Going to do a podcast
with Chris.

440
00:14:47,554 --> 00:14:49,554
<i> The article says</i>
<i> MTV wasn't there.</i>

441
00:14:49,623 --> 00:14:51,189
He thought I lied to him
about it.

442
00:14:51,258 --> 00:14:53,925
I don't think I want
to talk to him ever again.

443
00:14:53,994 --> 00:14:55,026
Oh, my God.
- Don't cry, Bri.

444
00:14:55,095 --> 00:14:56,561
- Bri.

445
00:14:56,630 --> 00:14:58,830
- I am going through a lawsuit
right now with Kail.

446
00:14:58,899 --> 00:15:00,398
I'm [bleep] annoyed.

447
00:15:00,467 --> 00:15:02,033
<i> She's saying</i>
<i> that I [bleep] Chris.</i>

448
00:15:02,102 --> 00:15:03,268
<i> Like, damn, bitch,</i>

449
00:15:03,336 --> 00:15:05,770
why are you so worried
about my vagina?

450
00:15:05,839 --> 00:15:07,472
- Is Devoin coming?
On the way?

451
00:15:07,540 --> 00:15:10,008
- I don't know, he asked me
if he could take Nova,

452
00:15:10,076 --> 00:15:12,477
but she said no, so...

453
00:15:12,545 --> 00:15:15,013
<i> I think Nova was definitely</i>
<i> expecting Devoin.</i>

454
00:15:15,081 --> 00:15:17,148
He disappointed her.

455
00:15:17,217 --> 00:15:19,317
- I love Nova.
- I know.

456
00:15:19,386 --> 00:15:23,421
- I'm definitely--
can do a lot more for her now.

457
00:15:23,490 --> 00:15:25,657
- Is that a commitment?
- It's a promise.

458
00:15:25,725 --> 00:15:27,425
<i> - So they're telling me</i>
<i> that her heart</i>

459
00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:29,160
<i> is beating really fast.</i>

460
00:15:29,229 --> 00:15:31,663
<i> She has to wear</i>
<i> a heart monitor.</i>

461
00:15:31,731 --> 00:15:33,264
Luis said he was gonna come
to the appointment,

462
00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:35,266
and he did not [bleep] show.

463
00:15:35,335 --> 00:15:38,670
Such a nice thing we did here.

464
00:15:38,738 --> 00:15:42,073
I really wanted the girls
to experience something

465
00:15:42,142 --> 00:15:44,943
where all of us could be
under the same household

466
00:15:45,011 --> 00:15:47,679
and just have a good time,
and I think we did just that.

467
00:15:47,747 --> 00:15:49,614
[applause]

468
00:15:49,683 --> 00:15:51,416
- What do you remember most
from this season?

469
00:15:51,484 --> 00:15:53,151
- Oh, God, it was a--
it's a blur.

470
00:15:53,219 --> 00:15:54,786
- First thing that comes
to mind, though.

471
00:15:54,854 --> 00:15:56,187
- There was a lot.
I dealt with a lot.

472
00:15:56,256 --> 00:15:57,989
Every day was something new.

473
00:15:58,058 --> 00:16:00,358
Um, but I'm here today
and I feel better,

474
00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:02,760
so that's a positive.

475
00:16:02,829 --> 00:16:05,363
- So people were surprised
to see you and Chris together.

476
00:16:05,432 --> 00:16:07,598
So what motivated you
to wanna be on his podcast?

477
00:16:07,667 --> 00:16:09,200
- Um, he just asked me,

478
00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:12,270
and I thought
it was a good idea,

479
00:16:12,339 --> 00:16:14,038
and I just went for it.

480
00:16:14,107 --> 00:16:16,441
- And is it correct
that he helped you out

481
00:16:16,509 --> 00:16:18,943
with an affidavit
or a deposition or something?

482
00:16:19,012 --> 00:16:20,278
Or was it helpful?

483
00:16:20,347 --> 00:16:22,447
- My lawyer asked him questions
under oath

484
00:16:22,549 --> 00:16:25,616
and he answered them,
and that's that.

485
00:16:25,685 --> 00:16:26,684
- So I wanted
to clear some things

486
00:16:26,753 --> 00:16:27,819
that, you know,

487
00:16:27,887 --> 00:16:29,988
we've seen or have heard...
- Yeah.

488
00:16:30,056 --> 00:16:32,023
- That you and Chris
might be intimate,

489
00:16:32,092 --> 00:16:33,191
have been intimate.

490
00:16:33,259 --> 00:16:34,826
- That story's so old.

491
00:16:34,894 --> 00:16:38,329
Just because I had relations
with someone's ex-husband

492
00:16:38,398 --> 00:16:40,865
doesn't mean I wanna do that
every single time.

493
00:16:40,934 --> 00:16:42,900
I think that's annoying.
I think that's played out.

494
00:16:42,969 --> 00:16:47,171
I think she needs to come up
with a better...

495
00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,307
a better way
to "try to drag me down"

496
00:16:49,376 --> 00:16:50,742
because that's not gonna
get to me.

497
00:16:50,810 --> 00:16:55,780
- I know the "Teen Mom" world
are gonna bug--

498
00:16:55,849 --> 00:16:58,316
get mad at us if we don't
follow that question

499
00:16:58,385 --> 00:17:00,284
with yes or no?

500
00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:02,120
Because you didn't really say
yes or no.

501
00:17:02,188 --> 00:17:03,454
- Yes or no to what?

502
00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:05,590
If I [bleep] Chris? No.
- No?

503
00:17:05,658 --> 00:17:07,125
- But why does that
even matter?

504
00:17:07,193 --> 00:17:09,193
Why do you guys care?

505
00:17:09,262 --> 00:17:11,629
Like, is that your business?
I don't think so.

506
00:17:11,698 --> 00:17:13,731
I don't think
it's anybody's business.

507
00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,833
Not Kail's business either.

508
00:17:15,902 --> 00:17:17,435
Chris is not her property.

509
00:17:17,504 --> 00:17:19,037
So even if I did want
to [bleep] Chris,

510
00:17:19,105 --> 00:17:21,339
who the [bleep] cares?

511
00:17:21,408 --> 00:17:23,274
- Well, I just know that--
- Well, I think the fans--

512
00:17:23,343 --> 00:17:24,675
- [laughs]
- It was the fans who care.

513
00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:25,676
Wait, hold on.
- Yeah, it's not--

514
00:17:25,745 --> 00:17:26,944
and they come on--

515
00:17:27,013 --> 00:17:28,746
they get on us
for things we don't ask.

516
00:17:28,815 --> 00:17:30,114
- Okay. I get that.

517
00:17:30,183 --> 00:17:31,682
It's your job.

518
00:17:31,751 --> 00:17:33,251
- Do you understand, though,

519
00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:34,852
your fans, right--
- Yeah.

520
00:17:34,921 --> 00:17:36,387
- You know,
people had pointed out

521
00:17:36,456 --> 00:17:38,523
that I guess you were wearing
Chris' shirt

522
00:17:38,625 --> 00:17:40,925
<i> or something like that on IG.</i>

523
00:17:40,994 --> 00:17:43,861
<i> Tell us--well, tell them.</i>

524
00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:45,663
- First of all,

525
00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:48,666
I have a lot of graphic tees,
number one.

526
00:17:48,735 --> 00:17:51,903
Number two, there's tons
of "Goosebumps" shirt

527
00:17:51,971 --> 00:17:54,072
that I have.

528
00:17:54,140 --> 00:17:56,941
Me and him literally have
the same shirt.

529
00:17:57,010 --> 00:17:59,343
Me and him could sit down
right here with each other

530
00:17:59,412 --> 00:18:03,114
and have the same shirt on,
and that's just that.

531
00:18:03,183 --> 00:18:04,582
<i> - They follow you.</i>
<i> They like you.</i>

532
00:18:04,684 --> 00:18:06,117
<i> They wanna know.</i>
<i> - I guess.</i>

533
00:18:06,186 --> 00:18:09,287
I'm trying to be as transparent
and authentic as possible,

534
00:18:09,355 --> 00:18:11,022
so bring it on, I guess.

535
00:18:11,091 --> 00:18:13,558
- Do you think the situation
can ever get cleared up?

536
00:18:13,626 --> 00:18:15,359
- With who?
- With you, Kail, even Javi.

537
00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:16,761
Just--
- I don't have no problems

538
00:18:16,830 --> 00:18:18,696
with anybody.

539
00:18:18,765 --> 00:18:20,298
I don't think
it'll ever get cleared up.

540
00:18:20,366 --> 00:18:23,367
I don't care to fix it
with her.

541
00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:25,670
She doesn't affect
my day-to-day life.

542
00:18:25,738 --> 00:18:27,839
So probably not.

543
00:18:27,907 --> 00:18:29,707
She can kiss my ass.

544
00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:32,076
- So I wanna talk about
your ex, Javi.

545
00:18:32,145 --> 00:18:34,412
Did you wanna be engaged
to him?

546
00:18:34,481 --> 00:18:39,050
- I did see
somewhat of a future with him.

547
00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,053
<i> But I think</i>
<i> it happened too fast.</i>

548
00:18:42,122 --> 00:18:44,722
And he just wasn't the guy
for me.

549
00:18:44,791 --> 00:18:47,258
I feel like
once I accepted that ring,

550
00:18:47,327 --> 00:18:51,562
he viewed me as an object
and not as a wife.

551
00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:53,464
And then it just turned me off.

552
00:18:53,533 --> 00:18:55,333
- Have you started dating
since the breakup?

553
00:18:55,401 --> 00:18:56,567
- No, but I want to.

554
00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:58,336
I've been celibate
for nine, ten months.

555
00:18:58,404 --> 00:19:00,304
I'm ready to [bleep].

556
00:19:00,373 --> 00:19:01,472
[laughter]

557
00:19:01,541 --> 00:19:02,907
But I do wanna date.
I wanna, like--

558
00:19:02,976 --> 00:19:05,643
I downloaded a dating app.

559
00:19:05,712 --> 00:19:08,379
Um, so yeah,
I'm trying to get out there.

560
00:19:08,448 --> 00:19:11,115
- The dads are coming up soon,
uh, out here with us.

561
00:19:11,184 --> 00:19:13,351
How has it been going
with Devoin?

562
00:19:13,419 --> 00:19:15,586
- Better. Better.

563
00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:17,388
- And Luis has been stepping up
a little bit

564
00:19:17,457 --> 00:19:19,457
with Stella, right?

565
00:19:19,526 --> 00:19:22,093
Is that not consistently so?

566
00:19:22,162 --> 00:19:25,096
- Um, again,
like, last week, yes.

567
00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:27,565
Today...

568
00:19:27,634 --> 00:19:30,601
me as a mother,
I wish there was more.

569
00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:33,371
I wish I could get more
out of Luis and Devoin

570
00:19:33,439 --> 00:19:35,439
for these girls.
- Got it.

571
00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:37,542
Up next, something I never
thought would happen

572
00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:40,044
on one of these reunions:
we're speaking to Chris.

573
00:19:40,113 --> 00:19:42,547
[applause]

574
00:19:42,615 --> 00:19:45,583
<i> [percussive music]</i>

575
00:19:45,652 --> 00:19:48,586
I wanted to get some clarity
behind some rumors

576
00:19:48,655 --> 00:19:50,888
that you and Briana were
more than just friends.

577
00:19:50,957 --> 00:19:52,023
Any truth to that?

578
00:19:52,091 --> 00:19:53,324
- Uh...

579
00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:58,429
<i> [upbeat music]</i>

580
00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:01,299
[cheers and applause]

581
00:20:01,367 --> 00:20:02,833
- After our discussion
with Kail,

582
00:20:02,902 --> 00:20:04,468
we decided to have Chris
on the show

583
00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:07,538
to get his perspective,
so please welcome Chris.

584
00:20:07,607 --> 00:20:09,040
<i> [applause]</i>
- How y'all doing?

585
00:20:09,108 --> 00:20:11,842
- Hey, it was nice to see you
on camera this season.

586
00:20:11,911 --> 00:20:14,712
How has the filming experience
been for you?

587
00:20:14,781 --> 00:20:17,982
<i> - I mean, the good, I guess,</i>
<i> is, I got to kinda share</i>

588
00:20:18,051 --> 00:20:20,818
<i> a little bit about me,</i>
<i> but the bad is, um,</i>

589
00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:22,753
I felt like
I was being silenced.

590
00:20:22,822 --> 00:20:25,656
Like, you know, people had
a little temper tantrum,

591
00:20:25,725 --> 00:20:28,092
and ever since then, um,
I ain't heard from nobody.

592
00:20:28,161 --> 00:20:30,428
<i> Like, I didn't even know</i>
<i> y'all had a reunion going on.</i>

593
00:20:30,496 --> 00:20:32,096
- Well,
I hope during this reunion

594
00:20:32,165 --> 00:20:33,364
with Dr. Drew and myself

595
00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:35,633
that you're able
to fully express yourself

596
00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:37,168
however way you want to.

597
00:20:37,237 --> 00:20:39,870
I mean, that's the reason
why we do this reunion.

598
00:20:39,939 --> 00:20:42,406
<i> I guess for me, I'm just</i>
<i> trying to get more clarity.</i>

599
00:20:42,475 --> 00:20:44,175
What caused the demise?

600
00:20:44,244 --> 00:20:47,778
- Between the Briana thing
and me having a new baby,

601
00:20:47,847 --> 00:20:48,813
that's what it was.

602
00:20:48,881 --> 00:20:49,947
<i> I'ma tell y'all this,</i>

603
00:20:50,016 --> 00:20:53,284
before all this happened,
we was...us.

604
00:20:53,353 --> 00:20:54,585
All right, I'm just gonna
put it like that.

605
00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:55,653
<i> We was hanging out</i>
<i> with each other,</i>

606
00:20:55,722 --> 00:20:56,754
<i> doing all that stuff.</i>

607
00:20:56,823 --> 00:20:58,689
And once this stuff broke,

608
00:20:58,758 --> 00:21:01,225
you know, it was just--
it was--you know,

609
00:21:01,294 --> 00:21:03,094
I am the worst person
in the world.

610
00:21:03,162 --> 00:21:05,162
- I wanna ask a couple
questions about Briana.

611
00:21:05,231 --> 00:21:08,199
And what made you want
to get her for your podcast?

612
00:21:08,268 --> 00:21:09,767
<i> - It was just</i>
<i> to share experiences.</i>

613
00:21:09,836 --> 00:21:11,402
<i> It wasn't to be, like, petty</i>
<i> or anything, like--</i>

614
00:21:11,471 --> 00:21:12,570
<i> - Right.</i>
- It's not like I'm trying

615
00:21:12,639 --> 00:21:14,305
to purposely hurt this girl.

616
00:21:14,374 --> 00:21:17,375
- What made you agree
to give a deposition

617
00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:19,043
on Briana's behalf?

618
00:21:19,112 --> 00:21:20,478
- This whole thing put me
in a tough spot

619
00:21:20,546 --> 00:21:22,246
because it was like I had
to choose sides.

620
00:21:22,315 --> 00:21:24,582
They was trying to basically
make me appear in court,

621
00:21:24,651 --> 00:21:26,584
and I ain't even wanna do that,
so I just told her, like,

622
00:21:26,653 --> 00:21:28,853
you know, I said what I said.

623
00:21:28,921 --> 00:21:30,087
You know, like,
I told her the story.

624
00:21:30,156 --> 00:21:31,222
There's nothing to hide,
you know,

625
00:21:31,291 --> 00:21:32,657
so that was basically
how I had it.

626
00:21:32,725 --> 00:21:34,825
<i> Briana, I'm not saying,</i>
<i> like, it's all her fault.</i>

627
00:21:34,894 --> 00:21:37,161
<i> But she did, you know,</i>
<i> talk about certain things,</i>

628
00:21:37,230 --> 00:21:39,664
like, that really wasn't
her business,

629
00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:40,998
but it is what it is.

630
00:21:41,067 --> 00:21:44,135
- I wanted to get some clarity
behind some rumors

631
00:21:44,203 --> 00:21:46,470
that you and Briana were
more than just friends.

632
00:21:46,539 --> 00:21:47,872
Any truth to that?

633
00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:49,540
<i> - Nah, me and Bri,</i>
<i> we was just cool.</i>

634
00:21:49,609 --> 00:21:50,875
Like, we hung out,
don't get it wrong,

635
00:21:50,943 --> 00:21:52,443
but, like, it was just friends.

636
00:21:52,512 --> 00:21:54,278
<i> I was very respectful</i>
<i> with that, you know?</i>

637
00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:56,547
- Kail specifically alluded
to the fact

638
00:21:56,649 --> 00:21:58,416
that you two had
slept together.

639
00:21:58,484 --> 00:22:02,787
So do you wanna clarify
what actually happened?

640
00:22:02,855 --> 00:22:03,821
- Kail say a lot of stuff.

641
00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:05,323
That don't mean it's true.

642
00:22:05,391 --> 00:22:07,658
- What about someone
on social media

643
00:22:07,727 --> 00:22:10,394
pointing out that Briana came
home wearing the same shirt

644
00:22:10,463 --> 00:22:12,563
that you wore
during the podcast?

645
00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:14,031
<i> - All right.</i>
<i> [laughs]</i>

646
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:16,934
<i> That--I gave her my shirt.</i>

647
00:22:17,003 --> 00:22:18,803
<i> She had, like, a beater</i>
<i> on that day,</i>

648
00:22:18,871 --> 00:22:20,338
and she was like, "I'm cold,"
and I was like, "Here."

649
00:22:20,406 --> 00:22:21,472
I mean, she asked me
for my shirt,

650
00:22:21,541 --> 00:22:22,907
and I was like, "Here,"
and that was it.

651
00:22:22,975 --> 00:22:25,109
Nothing more, nothing less.
- And so she didn't have

652
00:22:25,178 --> 00:22:26,344
anything else packed with her?

653
00:22:26,412 --> 00:22:27,645
- Yeah,
she did have stuff packed,

654
00:22:27,714 --> 00:22:29,347
but, like,
I ain't think nothing of it.

655
00:22:29,415 --> 00:22:30,715
You know, it was just, like,
one of those things

656
00:22:30,783 --> 00:22:32,483
like, all right, here,
and the crazy thing is,

657
00:22:32,552 --> 00:22:33,684
<i> is I forgot I gave her</i>
<i> that shirt</i>

658
00:22:33,753 --> 00:22:34,919
<i> 'cause I was looking for it.</i>

659
00:22:34,987 --> 00:22:37,021
- Congrats on the birth
of Chris Jr.

660
00:22:37,090 --> 00:22:38,456
How's he doing?

661
00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:39,957
<i> - Oh, he good.</i>
<i> He in there taking a nap.</i>

662
00:22:40,026 --> 00:22:41,992
He not really Junior, per se.

663
00:22:42,061 --> 00:22:43,661
His real name--his first name--
is Trew.

664
00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:45,663
<i> I just call him CJ</i>
<i> 'cause, you know.</i>

665
00:22:45,732 --> 00:22:46,831
- Oh, okay.

666
00:22:46,899 --> 00:22:49,500
And are you still
with Trew's mom?

667
00:22:49,569 --> 00:22:51,335
- Nah, like, I wasn't
in a place to date.

668
00:22:51,404 --> 00:22:52,903
You know, like, mentally,
I wasn't.

669
00:22:52,972 --> 00:22:54,772
- What are some things
you wanna work on?

670
00:22:54,841 --> 00:22:56,774
- I've been open about it.
Like, I deal with depression.

671
00:22:56,843 --> 00:22:59,043
You know, depression, anxiety,
and things like that,

672
00:22:59,112 --> 00:23:00,711
<i> and, um, it really bothers me.</i>

673
00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:03,614
Like, you know, like,
I could just wake up one day

674
00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:05,349
and just be out of it.

675
00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:07,718
- Have you been treated
for some of these symptoms?

676
00:23:07,787 --> 00:23:10,821
<i> - So I put myself in therapy,</i>
<i> you know,</i>

677
00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:11,889
<i> when that incident happened,</i>

678
00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:13,190
so almost three years

679
00:23:13,259 --> 00:23:14,325
I've been doing therapy.

680
00:23:14,394 --> 00:23:16,427
<i> It's kinda one of those, um--</i>

681
00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:18,529
I just wasn't happy
with how things were.

682
00:23:18,598 --> 00:23:19,764
<i> - I hear it.</i>
- So, you know, I kinda--

683
00:23:19,832 --> 00:23:20,998
- Yep.

684
00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:22,566
So I wanna clear stuff up

685
00:23:22,635 --> 00:23:24,068
that's been swirling around
for a while.

686
00:23:24,137 --> 00:23:26,337
And you mentioned
that three years ago,

687
00:23:26,406 --> 00:23:28,506
something happened
that sent you to therapy.

688
00:23:28,574 --> 00:23:29,740
- Mm-hmm.
- There have been allegations

689
00:23:29,809 --> 00:23:31,342
of abuse between you two.

690
00:23:31,411 --> 00:23:32,843
Can you clarify that for me?

691
00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:34,078
<i> - We both did some.</i>

692
00:23:34,147 --> 00:23:36,881
<i> It's--it's--it's faults</i>
<i> on both sides.</i>

693
00:23:36,949 --> 00:23:38,482
Whatever's been said about me
from her

694
00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:40,451
can literally be said
about them, so it's more like

695
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,752
I ain't about to sit here
and tell y'all

696
00:23:41,821 --> 00:23:43,754
exactly what this--
what's happened,

697
00:23:43,823 --> 00:23:45,689
But it's been abuse
on both sides.

698
00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:47,658
- Did you ever threaten her
with violence

699
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,659
or injure Kail?

700
00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:50,828
- Injure? No.
<i> - No.</i>

701
00:23:50,897 --> 00:23:52,863
- She's making it seem like
I really beat her.

702
00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:54,265
That's the--that's the story
going around

703
00:23:54,333 --> 00:23:55,266
like I actually beat this girl.

704
00:23:55,334 --> 00:23:56,667
I never beat her.

705
00:23:56,736 --> 00:23:58,369
- Did you threaten her?
<i> - What I did--I--</i>

706
00:23:58,438 --> 00:23:59,770
<i> did I threaten her?</i>

707
00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:01,872
I might've said some things
out of anger.

708
00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:03,741
I don't necessarily know
exactly what I said,

709
00:24:03,810 --> 00:24:05,342
but I said some--
I'm not gonna stand here

710
00:24:05,411 --> 00:24:06,444
and act like I'm innocent.

711
00:24:06,512 --> 00:24:07,745
I did--I done things.

712
00:24:07,814 --> 00:24:09,613
And I--and I served for it.

713
00:24:09,682 --> 00:24:12,149
You know, like, I got
handed my punishment.

714
00:24:12,218 --> 00:24:14,218
I'm not 'bout to let
y'all keep punishing me

715
00:24:14,287 --> 00:24:16,020
<i> for something I did</i>
<i> three, four years ago.</i>

716
00:24:16,088 --> 00:24:18,022
- No, that's not my intention.
Trust me.

717
00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:19,356
<i> - No, no, no.</i>
<i> Not you. Not you.</i>

718
00:24:19,425 --> 00:24:20,558
I'm just saying, you know,
I'm saying in general,

719
00:24:20,626 --> 00:24:21,559
you know,
that's what people do.

720
00:24:21,627 --> 00:24:22,626
They use my past as a way

721
00:24:22,695 --> 00:24:24,795
to constantly try to,
you know--

722
00:24:24,864 --> 00:24:26,263
I'm honest with myself.

723
00:24:26,332 --> 00:24:27,998
<i> I'm, like, at a--</i>
<i> at a different place.</i>

724
00:24:28,067 --> 00:24:29,300
<i> Like I said,</i>
<i> I'm not angry no more.</i>

725
00:24:29,368 --> 00:24:30,401
<i> I'm not--I'm not mad.</i>

726
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:31,769
<i> I'm not none of that.</i>

727
00:24:31,838 --> 00:24:33,103
<i> You know, it's not--</i>
<i> and I wish the best,</i>

728
00:24:33,172 --> 00:24:34,271
<i> you know, for everybody.</i>

729
00:24:34,340 --> 00:24:35,539
<i> Um, as far as Kail,</i>

730
00:24:35,608 --> 00:24:37,074
like, I don't have no issues
with this girl.

731
00:24:37,143 --> 00:24:38,542
Like, I genuinely wanna
get along.

732
00:24:38,611 --> 00:24:40,644
Our kids deserve it.
It's been too long.

733
00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:42,680
- She had said she was
very much in love with you.

734
00:24:42,782 --> 00:24:43,981
Were you in love with her?

735
00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:46,150
- Yeah,
I was in love with that girl.

736
00:24:46,219 --> 00:24:48,719
That's why I chose
to stay quiet for so long.

737
00:24:48,788 --> 00:24:50,321
<i> 'Cause it's like, yo,</i>
<i> that was really my--</i>

738
00:24:50,389 --> 00:24:52,256
that was my dawg, like,
you feel me?

739
00:24:52,325 --> 00:24:53,958
So for all this
to be going down,

740
00:24:54,026 --> 00:24:56,093
it kinda--it do suck.

741
00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:57,294
<i> And I'm not gonna say--</i>

742
00:24:57,363 --> 00:24:59,063
<i> like, yeah,</i>
<i> we can say we toxic now.</i>

743
00:24:59,131 --> 00:25:01,432
But we great when we get along.

744
00:25:01,501 --> 00:25:04,468
- We're about to wrap up,
Chris, but any final thoughts?

745
00:25:04,537 --> 00:25:06,937
- My kids are probably the only
reason why I'm out here today,

746
00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:09,306
<i> especially when I'm dealing</i>
<i> with depression and all that.</i>

747
00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:12,243
My kids, like,
they keep me here.

748
00:25:12,311 --> 00:25:14,178
Like, sane.
They keep me, like, happy.

749
00:25:14,247 --> 00:25:15,713
- Well, Chris,
thank you so much

750
00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:17,081
for talking with us today,

751
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:18,482
and I hope everybody's able

752
00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:21,085
to work their differences out.

753
00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:23,387
- Coming up next, we'll be
joined by Ashley and Bar

754
00:25:23,456 --> 00:25:26,357
and Ashley's mom, Tea,
after the break.

755
00:25:26,425 --> 00:25:29,460
[applause]

756
00:25:31,197 --> 00:25:32,596
When you started talking
about divorce,

757
00:25:32,665 --> 00:25:34,965
that--that broke my heart
a little bit.

758
00:25:35,034 --> 00:25:36,634
- Believe me when I say,

759
00:25:36,702 --> 00:25:40,504
if I said it,
I had just cause to say it.

760
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:47,678
[applause]

761
00:25:47,747 --> 00:25:49,513
<i> [upbeat music]</i>

762
00:25:49,582 --> 00:25:50,681
- And we're back.

763
00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:52,116
We've been talking
with Ashley and Bar,

764
00:25:52,184 --> 00:25:54,818
and we are joined now
by Ashley's mom, Tea.

765
00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:56,053
Hi, Tea. Welcome.

766
00:25:56,122 --> 00:25:59,256
- [laughs]
[cheers and applause]

767
00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:02,393
- Talk to us--how do you think
they're doing as parents?

768
00:26:02,461 --> 00:26:04,461
- Um, I think
they're doing great as parents.

769
00:26:04,530 --> 00:26:06,730
I'm really excited
about watching them

770
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,832
mother and father Holly.

771
00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:11,635
<i> I think they are doing better</i>
<i> than I did for sure.</i>

772
00:26:11,704 --> 00:26:14,171
- [laughs]
- So that's a plus right there.

773
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,840
- How's your relationship
with Shen these days?

774
00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:17,975
- [sighs]

775
00:26:18,044 --> 00:26:19,743
Why you ask that?
[both laugh]

776
00:26:19,812 --> 00:26:21,478
- Well, you know,
we've seen the past,

777
00:26:21,547 --> 00:26:23,080
but now it's the present.

778
00:26:23,149 --> 00:26:24,748
<i> - I think our relationship</i>
<i> is better.</i>

779
00:26:24,817 --> 00:26:27,117
I like, uh, where we're headed.

780
00:26:27,219 --> 00:26:29,086
As time goes on,

781
00:26:29,155 --> 00:26:31,055
I think me and Shen'll
be just fine

782
00:26:31,123 --> 00:26:32,623
as I always knew we was.

783
00:26:32,692 --> 00:26:35,159
<i> But, you know, sometimes</i>
<i> you just gotta let things</i>

784
00:26:35,227 --> 00:26:37,494
run its course because when
everybody is trying

785
00:26:37,563 --> 00:26:40,397
to make something be--
and it's just not time.

786
00:26:40,466 --> 00:26:43,934
And I think now is the season,
now is the time for me and Shen

787
00:26:44,003 --> 00:26:47,004
to explore
whatever it is for us

788
00:26:47,073 --> 00:26:51,275
without anybody's involvement.

789
00:26:51,344 --> 00:26:52,910
Just her and I.
- For sure.

790
00:26:52,979 --> 00:26:55,245
- And Tea, you officiated
at the wedding?

791
00:26:55,314 --> 00:26:57,247
- I did.
- How was that experience?

792
00:26:57,316 --> 00:26:58,749
- Do we really even have
to mention it?

793
00:26:58,818 --> 00:26:59,984
I was--

794
00:27:00,052 --> 00:27:01,485
- There wasn't a wedding.
- I was not happy.

795
00:27:01,554 --> 00:27:02,820
Don't look at me like that,
Bar.

796
00:27:02,888 --> 00:27:03,954
- [laughs]

797
00:27:04,023 --> 00:27:05,322
- Don't even look at me
like that.

798
00:27:05,391 --> 00:27:08,125
I didn't want it
to happen like that, you know?

799
00:27:08,194 --> 00:27:09,893
But they were gonna do it
anyway.

800
00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:12,329
And so why not it be me?

801
00:27:12,398 --> 00:27:13,964
Um, but I would've wanted

802
00:27:14,033 --> 00:27:16,533
for them to have
the big fairy tale thing

803
00:27:16,602 --> 00:27:18,569
and, you know,
I think hopefully

804
00:27:18,638 --> 00:27:19,970
we can still see that.

805
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,339
- Tea, there--when you started
talking about divorce,

806
00:27:22,408 --> 00:27:25,109
that--that broke my heart
a little bit.

807
00:27:25,177 --> 00:27:27,411
- It's no secret.
I never wanted you with Bar.

808
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,580
Girl, you better divorce him.

809
00:27:29,649 --> 00:27:31,715
- You still feel that way?

810
00:27:31,784 --> 00:27:34,485
- Um, believe me when I say,

811
00:27:34,553 --> 00:27:38,989
if I said it,
I had just cause to say it.

812
00:27:39,058 --> 00:27:42,159
Um, and so--but we'll work out
our family things.

813
00:27:42,228 --> 00:27:43,894
You guys don't see everything.

814
00:27:43,963 --> 00:27:45,996
Now, do I feel like that
in general?

815
00:27:46,065 --> 00:27:47,665
No, because I love Bar.

816
00:27:47,733 --> 00:27:48,766
- Ashley, was she right

817
00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:50,100
to feel that way
at that moment?

818
00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:52,803
- Everyone is entitled
to their opinion.

819
00:27:52,872 --> 00:27:56,407
I'm gonna do what I want to do
because I'm a grown woman.

820
00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:59,977
I respect my mom's opinion
because my mom has lived

821
00:28:00,046 --> 00:28:01,612
a thousand more lives than me.

822
00:28:01,681 --> 00:28:02,780
- Girl, don't lie.

823
00:28:02,848 --> 00:28:04,381
- Not--not your age!
[laughter]

824
00:28:04,450 --> 00:28:06,016
- Your face.
You hear that [bleep]?

825
00:28:06,085 --> 00:28:07,584
- I'm talking about--
- Don't put that on me.

826
00:28:07,653 --> 00:28:09,019
- I'm talking about your--

827
00:28:09,088 --> 00:28:10,988
you know, the stuff
that you've been through.

828
00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:12,790
- Trying to make me older
than I need to be.

829
00:28:12,858 --> 00:28:14,692
- The knowledge
that she has to share

830
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,560
really is probably worth
a thousand lives.

831
00:28:16,629 --> 00:28:17,561
- Yeah.
- You know what I'm saying?

832
00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:20,097
So I appreciate what she says.

833
00:28:20,166 --> 00:28:22,599
I listen to what she says,
and it's no hard feelings

834
00:28:22,668 --> 00:28:23,967
because she's my mama.

835
00:28:24,036 --> 00:28:26,170
And another thing that people
don't understand is,

836
00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:27,905
she's kinda like Bar's mom.

837
00:28:27,973 --> 00:28:29,673
And so when Bar [bleep] up,

838
00:28:29,742 --> 00:28:31,108
she's gonna cuss him out

839
00:28:31,177 --> 00:28:32,576
and do everything
that she would do to me

840
00:28:32,645 --> 00:28:34,511
because she's our mom.

841
00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:36,113
And so I don't take that--

842
00:28:36,182 --> 00:28:38,015
- But ultimately,
she's your mom.

843
00:28:38,084 --> 00:28:39,750
And that's why divorce
comes into it.

844
00:28:39,819 --> 00:28:40,951
- That is true.
- Yeah.

845
00:28:41,020 --> 00:28:43,721
- But on the flip side of that,

846
00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:45,823
if it was me [bleep] up
and Bar calling her,

847
00:28:45,891 --> 00:28:48,392
she would say, "Bar...

848
00:28:48,461 --> 00:28:49,927
she ain't doing right."

849
00:28:49,995 --> 00:28:51,095
- Leave her.
- "You might need to make

850
00:28:51,163 --> 00:28:52,062
a better decision"...
- Leave her.

851
00:28:52,131 --> 00:28:53,664
- "Than my daughter."

852
00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:55,299
- Tea, you good with them
together right now?

853
00:28:55,367 --> 00:28:59,169
- My issue is, is that when
they aren't getting along,

854
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:02,139
I don't wanna see it fall out
all over the place.

855
00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:05,109
I want them to be able
to contain that

856
00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:08,479
'cause it takes some steadiness
to make it to 20 years.

857
00:29:08,547 --> 00:29:10,214
- Well, I know,
watching the journey,

858
00:29:10,282 --> 00:29:11,882
it has been incredible,

859
00:29:11,951 --> 00:29:13,484
especially the ending
of this season.

860
00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:15,786
- Mm.
- You two really overcame.

861
00:29:15,855 --> 00:29:17,454
I didn't know
what was gonna happen.

862
00:29:17,523 --> 00:29:18,522
- Me either.
- From the start of the season.

863
00:29:18,591 --> 00:29:19,523
- I didn't at all.

864
00:29:19,592 --> 00:29:21,759
- I mean, you know, Ashley,

865
00:29:21,827 --> 00:29:23,494
she was clear
in what she wanted.

866
00:29:23,562 --> 00:29:25,162
And she wasn't gonna lower--
- And I was on the same page

867
00:29:25,231 --> 00:29:26,930
at that point.
Like, we was like, we're done.

868
00:29:26,999 --> 00:29:28,332
Like--
- And--and Bar,

869
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,701
you looked like
you really understood...

870
00:29:30,770 --> 00:29:32,636
- I did.
- What she was saying.

871
00:29:32,705 --> 00:29:36,640
So to see where you both
are today, it's great.

872
00:29:36,709 --> 00:29:37,741
It's really amazing.

873
00:29:37,810 --> 00:29:39,376
- Thank you.
- Great job. For sure.

874
00:29:39,445 --> 00:29:41,545
Well, Ashley, Bar, and Tea,
thank you so much

875
00:29:41,614 --> 00:29:44,014
for being so open and candid
with us today.

876
00:29:44,083 --> 00:29:46,150
We gotta take a quick break,
and we'll be right back.

877
00:29:46,218 --> 00:29:49,153
[cheers and applause]

878
00:29:49,221 --> 00:29:51,822
<i> ♪ ♪</i>

879
00:29:53,192 --> 00:29:57,060
[cheers and applause]

880
00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:58,996
- And we have another
first-time guest

881
00:29:59,064 --> 00:30:01,965
on a reunion show:
Bar's mom, Shen.

882
00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:04,401
[cheers and applause]
- Oh, Jesus.

883
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:06,336
- So listen, um,

884
00:30:06,405 --> 00:30:07,738
I got to know you
a little bit backstage.

885
00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:09,740
It is such a privilege
to get to know you

886
00:30:09,809 --> 00:30:12,476
and look you in the eye
and find out who you are.

887
00:30:12,545 --> 00:30:14,611
What do you want people
to know about you?

888
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,114
- I--I don't--

889
00:30:17,216 --> 00:30:18,382
I need a minute.

890
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:19,817
I-I-I need a minute.

891
00:30:19,885 --> 00:30:20,984
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no--
- I can't.

892
00:30:21,053 --> 00:30:23,854
- Shen, please.
- I need a minute.

893
00:30:23,923 --> 00:30:25,889
Where do I get out of here?

894
00:30:25,958 --> 00:30:27,257
I need a minute.
I need a minute.

895
00:30:27,326 --> 00:30:28,592
Where's my kid?

896
00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:29,993
<i> I need a minute.</i>

897
00:30:34,934 --> 00:30:36,033
- Let's be clear.

898
00:30:36,101 --> 00:30:37,901
I didn't do this
'cause I wanted to.

899
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:39,403
- I know you didn't. I know.
- My kid begged me

900
00:30:39,471 --> 00:30:40,571
for two weeks to do it.

901
00:30:40,639 --> 00:30:42,139
I was against it.
- I know. But I think--

902
00:30:45,811 --> 00:30:48,045
- They were supposed
to be here with me.

903
00:30:48,113 --> 00:30:50,080
We've been good. I babysit.

904
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:51,849
They call me.
We talk on the phone.

905
00:30:51,917 --> 00:30:53,684
We've gone shopping,
and now, today,

906
00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:54,952
there's a problem for filming?

907
00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:56,253
- One minute.

908
00:30:56,322 --> 00:30:57,321
- Keep walking.

909
00:31:00,125 --> 00:31:01,992
- Okay.
- [indistinct]

910
00:31:02,061 --> 00:31:04,094
<i> [somber music]</i>

911
00:31:04,163 --> 00:31:05,429
- Are you okay?
- I'm sorry.

912
00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:07,497
I needed a minute.
- Let me ask you something.

913
00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:08,999
Did I say something to--
- No, you didn't.

914
00:31:09,068 --> 00:31:10,734
- Okay. Are you cool?
- I am.

915
00:31:10,803 --> 00:31:12,269
- Okay. Come on. We wanna--
- This is so much deeper

916
00:31:12,338 --> 00:31:14,137
than you could ever know.
- You were alluding to that,

917
00:31:14,206 --> 00:31:15,839
so I didn't wanna even ask
about that.

918
00:31:15,908 --> 00:31:17,708
- I am so sorry, you guys.

919
00:31:17,776 --> 00:31:19,576
- Shh. No, no, no, no, no, no.

920
00:31:19,645 --> 00:31:20,677
We're just glad you're back.

921
00:31:20,746 --> 00:31:22,312
- You're so pretty.
- [laughs]

922
00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:24,748
- Thank you. Thank you.

923
00:31:24,817 --> 00:31:26,049
You're fine. Take your time.
- Okay.

924
00:31:26,118 --> 00:31:28,352
- We're here for you.
- Take. Cut.

925
00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:30,721
Let's start again, guys.
[both laugh]

926
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:33,190
- Happily.

927
00:31:33,259 --> 00:31:35,325
I'm sorry you're anxious.
I'm sorry you're uncomfortable.

928
00:31:35,394 --> 00:31:37,060
- Well, I felt like
everything was okay.

929
00:31:37,129 --> 00:31:38,528
Everything's been fine.

930
00:31:38,597 --> 00:31:40,864
And then all of a sudden,
somebody pretended an argument

931
00:31:40,933 --> 00:31:42,065
and my son left me here.

932
00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:43,600
He's supposed to be here
with me.

933
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:45,869
- He--he was.
That was supposed to happen.

934
00:31:45,938 --> 00:31:47,204
And you had said

935
00:31:47,306 --> 00:31:48,939
that that happens
once in a while.

936
00:31:49,008 --> 00:31:50,841
- That happens all the time.

937
00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:53,477
- That he abandons you
or lets you down or--

938
00:31:53,545 --> 00:31:54,745
<i> - That he pretends</i>

939
00:31:54,813 --> 00:31:56,647
<i> that there's drama</i>
<i> when there's not.</i>

940
00:31:56,715 --> 00:31:59,716
- I noticed
the effusive affection

941
00:31:59,785 --> 00:32:02,519
and love you have for him
when you guys are cool.

942
00:32:02,588 --> 00:32:05,822
<i> So it must be extra</i>
<i> crazy-feeling and painful.</i>

943
00:32:05,891 --> 00:32:07,324
<i> - I'll tell you, with me,</i>

944
00:32:07,393 --> 00:32:09,259
I came from
a very tough background.

945
00:32:09,328 --> 00:32:11,762
- What happened?
- I was abused as a child.

946
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:14,131
I was doing my own laundry
at seven.

947
00:32:14,199 --> 00:32:16,266
I was raped, kidnapped,
and molested

948
00:32:16,335 --> 00:32:19,536
all before I was 18,
so I turned into a nurturer.

949
00:32:19,605 --> 00:32:23,006
And I feel like
I was so overprotective

950
00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:25,275
and loving to my children

951
00:32:25,344 --> 00:32:29,913
that now, they're used
to me being superwoman.

952
00:32:29,982 --> 00:32:32,249
They think I can handle
the hurt they cause.

953
00:32:32,351 --> 00:32:34,384
Bar thinks
that I can handle this.

954
00:32:34,453 --> 00:32:36,153
And he doesn't understand,

955
00:32:36,221 --> 00:32:39,523
nothing in this world
will break me, Dr. Drew,

956
00:32:39,591 --> 00:32:40,958
but my children.

957
00:32:41,026 --> 00:32:43,527
- So I'm hearing that Bar
may be willing to come out.

958
00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:44,995
He's not been listening
to this interview.

959
00:32:45,064 --> 00:32:46,163
Are you cool with that?

960
00:32:46,231 --> 00:32:47,564
- Yeah,
I thought that was the plan

961
00:32:47,633 --> 00:32:48,632
from the beginning.

962
00:32:48,701 --> 00:32:49,933
- Well, me too.
[both laugh]

963
00:32:50,002 --> 00:32:52,002
But I--I--I--
- Which is why I felt betrayed.

964
00:32:52,071 --> 00:32:53,437
Like, I'm out here alone.

965
00:32:53,505 --> 00:32:55,639
- I think he's coming,
and I'm delighted to see that.

966
00:32:55,708 --> 00:32:58,008
So, Bar, if you're available,
you're willing,

967
00:32:58,077 --> 00:32:59,643
come on out here and join us.

968
00:32:59,712 --> 00:33:01,478
[applause]

969
00:33:01,547 --> 00:33:02,980
- I ain't even gonna lie--

970
00:33:03,048 --> 00:33:04,548
I know I'm not supposed
to say this.

971
00:33:04,616 --> 00:33:05,916
They're gonna have
to bleep it--

972
00:33:05,985 --> 00:33:06,984
but your fine ass.

973
00:33:07,052 --> 00:33:08,652
- [laughs]
- Can I have a hug?

974
00:33:08,721 --> 00:33:09,853
- Guess so, Mama.
- 'Cause you sure didn't

975
00:33:09,922 --> 00:33:10,854
speak to me this morning.

976
00:33:10,923 --> 00:33:12,222
Can I borrow your jacket?

977
00:33:12,291 --> 00:33:13,323
That's hella cute.
- Yeah, you can have it

978
00:33:13,425 --> 00:33:14,524
when we done.
What y'all got going on?

979
00:33:14,593 --> 00:33:15,859
What's up?
- We have gotten to know

980
00:33:15,928 --> 00:33:18,328
your mom,
and what I have learned,

981
00:33:18,397 --> 00:33:22,065
uh, is that you have
a tremendous impact on her.

982
00:33:22,134 --> 00:33:23,367
- I think it got
something to do with--

983
00:33:23,435 --> 00:33:25,202
we've been through
a lot of stuff together.

984
00:33:25,270 --> 00:33:26,703
- One of the thing
people are gonna wonder is

985
00:33:26,772 --> 00:33:28,372
why you weren't here and what
made you come back out.

986
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,741
- The reason I wasn't here
is because the reunions

987
00:33:30,809 --> 00:33:33,443
are always very high-strung
emotions and stuff like that.

988
00:33:33,512 --> 00:33:34,578
- Yeah. Okay.

989
00:33:34,646 --> 00:33:37,180
- So I just was trying
to figure out

990
00:33:37,249 --> 00:33:39,216
basically how to make
the situation easier yesterday,

991
00:33:39,284 --> 00:33:40,784
and I got frustrated
in the process of trying

992
00:33:40,853 --> 00:33:42,319
to do all that, so...
- Okay.

993
00:33:42,388 --> 00:33:43,987
- End result,
me and her kinda ended up

994
00:33:44,056 --> 00:33:46,356
in a little discrepancy, but it
was just a miscommunication.

995
00:33:46,425 --> 00:33:49,226
- Got it, and what you led you
coming now out here?

996
00:33:49,294 --> 00:33:51,094
- 'Cause I don't want my mama
to be out here by herself.

997
00:33:51,163 --> 00:33:52,496
I don't want her to feel like
she out here alone.

998
00:33:52,564 --> 00:33:53,730
That's shady.

999
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:55,832
Her first reunion
and she gotta talk to y'all.

1000
00:33:55,901 --> 00:33:57,734
Y'all great people, but, like,
you know, it's pressure.

1001
00:33:57,803 --> 00:33:58,835
- Yeah.

1002
00:33:58,904 --> 00:34:00,537
And Shen, and you and Tea
are talking now,

1003
00:34:00,606 --> 00:34:02,172
so we can say--
- Yeah.

1004
00:34:02,241 --> 00:34:03,607
<i> - And one of the things</i>
<i> I'm taking away</i>

1005
00:34:03,675 --> 00:34:05,375
<i> is that we need--you wanna</i>
<i> get all on the same page</i>

1006
00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:06,710
all together all at once.

1007
00:34:06,779 --> 00:34:08,078
- Yeah. Why not?
- And that's--

1008
00:34:08,147 --> 00:34:09,413
- Yeah, I mean, of course.

1009
00:34:09,481 --> 00:34:11,014
That's the ultimate goal
at the end of all of it

1010
00:34:11,083 --> 00:34:12,115
is for it to be one family.

1011
00:34:12,184 --> 00:34:14,951
What my thing is,
is the smoothness

1012
00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:18,355
or the way stuff is heading
and how it's been happening,

1013
00:34:18,457 --> 00:34:20,223
you know, it's--
you can't rush it.

1014
00:34:20,292 --> 00:34:22,993
Every time I've tried to rush
[bleep] in the past six years,

1015
00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:25,729
it's utterly failed completely.

1016
00:34:25,798 --> 00:34:27,764
People started talking
on their own accord.

1017
00:34:27,833 --> 00:34:29,466
I didn't have nothing
to do with it.

1018
00:34:29,535 --> 00:34:31,034
You gotta let time
take its course.

1019
00:34:31,103 --> 00:34:32,335
- I understand.
It was great getting

1020
00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:33,470
to know your mom.
It really was.

1021
00:34:33,539 --> 00:34:34,771
- Right,
y'all finally get to see her.

1022
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,740
- She's great.
[laughter]

1023
00:34:36,809 --> 00:34:39,676
So we'll be back
with more "Teen Mom 2" reunion

1024
00:34:39,745 --> 00:34:41,078
right after the break.

1025
00:34:41,146 --> 00:34:44,081
[cheers and applause]

1026
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:46,917
<i> [upbeat music]</i>

1027
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,519
[cheers and applause]

1028
00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:52,355
<i> [upbeat music]</i>

1029
00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:53,356
- Welcome back.

1030
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:54,558
We are talking to Briana,

1031
00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:55,892
and she's joined by Devoin

1032
00:34:55,961 --> 00:34:58,562
and, for the first time
on the reunion stage,

1033
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:59,596
Luis.

1034
00:34:59,665 --> 00:35:01,131
[applause]

1035
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,666
Welcome to the show.

1036
00:35:02,734 --> 00:35:04,167
And how are you feeling so far?

1037
00:35:04,236 --> 00:35:06,436
The stage. Are we okay?
- I'm a little, you know,

1038
00:35:06,505 --> 00:35:07,904
but it's all right.
- A little--

1039
00:35:07,973 --> 00:35:09,272
The lights and everything--
- There's lots of lights...

1040
00:35:09,374 --> 00:35:10,607
- I'm fine.
- And cameras.

1041
00:35:10,676 --> 00:35:11,708
- I'm okay.

1042
00:35:11,777 --> 00:35:13,009
- There are a few other things

1043
00:35:13,078 --> 00:35:14,411
that happened
at "Family Reunion"

1044
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,948
that we wanna touch on,
so we brought back Coach B.

1045
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:19,616
[cheering]
And hopefully she can also

1046
00:35:19,685 --> 00:35:22,919
shed some insight on Briana
and Luis' issues.

1047
00:35:22,988 --> 00:35:25,155
Please welcome back Coach B.

1048
00:35:25,224 --> 00:35:26,156
[cheers and applause]

1049
00:35:26,225 --> 00:35:27,524
- Hello.

1050
00:35:27,593 --> 00:35:28,692
Hello, guys.
- Welcome.

1051
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,193
- Hi.
- Hello, hello. Thank you.

1052
00:35:30,262 --> 00:35:34,798
Um, so I just know
that, uh, Luis--

1053
00:35:34,867 --> 00:35:36,199
- Hi.
- We haven't seen you.

1054
00:35:36,268 --> 00:35:37,534
My first time.

1055
00:35:37,603 --> 00:35:38,668
- How you doing?
- How you doing?

1056
00:35:38,737 --> 00:35:39,669
- Good.
- I don't wanna

1057
00:35:39,738 --> 00:35:41,171
pick on you yet.
- [laughs]

1058
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:42,806
- If that's okay with you.
- That's fine.

1059
00:35:42,875 --> 00:35:45,909
- But I do want
to kinda talk about,

1060
00:35:45,978 --> 00:35:48,945
um, Devoin, you and Briana's
communication.

1061
00:35:49,014 --> 00:35:50,580
- I'm so glad I got
to see you today.

1062
00:35:50,649 --> 00:35:51,948
- [laughs]
- 'Cause I was like, damn,

1063
00:35:52,017 --> 00:35:54,084
I gotta see her next season
for "Family Reunion,"

1064
00:35:54,153 --> 00:35:55,552
and I can't go that long.

1065
00:35:55,621 --> 00:35:57,554
But, um, we were doing good.

1066
00:35:57,623 --> 00:36:00,190
After family therapy,
everything was going well.

1067
00:36:00,259 --> 00:36:02,325
You know, I still want
both of them to be consistent.

1068
00:36:02,394 --> 00:36:03,560
I still want them to help...
- Yeah.

1069
00:36:03,629 --> 00:36:04,694
- As much as they can.

1070
00:36:04,763 --> 00:36:06,129
I still want all these things,

1071
00:36:06,198 --> 00:36:08,832
but I'm not, like,
hounding on them.

1072
00:36:08,901 --> 00:36:10,700
I'm just more like,
okay, they know

1073
00:36:10,769 --> 00:36:12,369
what I want from them

1074
00:36:12,437 --> 00:36:14,738
and they know what the girls
need from them,

1075
00:36:14,806 --> 00:36:17,073
so hopefully it'll happen.

1076
00:36:17,142 --> 00:36:19,976
- And so that kinda leads me
into, you know,

1077
00:36:20,045 --> 00:36:24,581
how you all, you know, plan
to blend as a family.

1078
00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:25,849
What do you think
that looks like?

1079
00:36:25,918 --> 00:36:27,651
What do you think co-parenting

1080
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,287
with a blended family
like you guys

1081
00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:32,589
looks like for you?

1082
00:36:32,658 --> 00:36:34,724
- I guess just communicating
with each other

1083
00:36:34,793 --> 00:36:37,494
and being open
to certain things.

1084
00:36:37,563 --> 00:36:39,763
- I heard you say
your father's a truck driver.

1085
00:36:39,831 --> 00:36:41,831
What is your guys' relationship
like when you were a kiddo?

1086
00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:42,832
- It's always been good.

1087
00:36:42,901 --> 00:36:44,534
- What's good?
- Uh, open.

1088
00:36:44,603 --> 00:36:46,069
He's always been there.

1089
00:36:46,138 --> 00:36:47,537
- What are some of the things
he's done that

1090
00:36:47,606 --> 00:36:49,539
maybe you would've done
different?

1091
00:36:49,608 --> 00:36:51,708
- If I'm being real,
I would say

1092
00:36:51,777 --> 00:36:53,376
that I would be more like him.

1093
00:36:53,478 --> 00:36:54,811
- And what is
being more like him?

1094
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,046
What does that look like?
- Always present.

1095
00:36:56,114 --> 00:36:58,515
Always talking.
Always communicating.

1096
00:36:58,584 --> 00:37:00,150
Always letting me know
that he's there.

1097
00:37:00,219 --> 00:37:01,818
- Yeah.
- So...

1098
00:37:01,887 --> 00:37:03,019
- So then I have to ask,

1099
00:37:03,088 --> 00:37:05,388
where did--
where is the disconnect at?

1100
00:37:05,457 --> 00:37:07,791
Because--I'm gonna
appropriately confront you--

1101
00:37:07,859 --> 00:37:10,427
you said you would have done it
just like Dad did it,

1102
00:37:10,495 --> 00:37:13,129
but you did it the opposite
of how Dad did it.

1103
00:37:13,198 --> 00:37:14,931
- Yeah.
- So where--

1104
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,900
there is a disparity there.

1105
00:37:16,969 --> 00:37:18,368
Where is that disparity?

1106
00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:20,070
- I really can't point a finger
to it.

1107
00:37:20,138 --> 00:37:22,706
Like, I wish I knew.

1108
00:37:22,774 --> 00:37:24,140
- Okay. Well, I'ma tell you.

1109
00:37:24,209 --> 00:37:27,010
Because you have disconnected
from emotion.

1110
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:29,246
Like many of them have.

1111
00:37:29,314 --> 00:37:30,513
You don't have
a good relationship

1112
00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:32,749
with feeling,
so you can't articulate it

1113
00:37:32,818 --> 00:37:34,251
'cause you can't feel it.

1114
00:37:34,319 --> 00:37:36,820
Do you know why
you can't feel it?

1115
00:37:36,888 --> 00:37:38,255
- No.
- Because somewhere

1116
00:37:38,323 --> 00:37:40,757
at some point,
whether you were in denial

1117
00:37:40,826 --> 00:37:43,426
or not, um, your heart as well,

1118
00:37:43,495 --> 00:37:46,263
like you've done with Stella,
was broken.

1119
00:37:46,331 --> 00:37:48,398
- I see Briana's reacting
to everything you're saying

1120
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:50,333
'cause it's some
of your stuff too, right?

1121
00:37:50,402 --> 00:37:51,635
- Yeah.

1122
00:37:51,703 --> 00:37:53,370
- Devoin, is it yours also?

1123
00:37:53,438 --> 00:37:55,538
- Yeah. I've been there.

1124
00:37:55,607 --> 00:37:57,240
- It was mine.

1125
00:37:57,309 --> 00:37:58,408
I had it too.

1126
00:37:58,477 --> 00:38:00,010
And I think you've talked
about this before

1127
00:38:00,078 --> 00:38:01,044
on this show.

1128
00:38:01,113 --> 00:38:02,178
These similar issues, right?

1129
00:38:02,247 --> 00:38:03,713
So I know this is
deeply meaningful to you.

1130
00:38:03,782 --> 00:38:05,348
- Oh, yeah.
I'm trying not to cry.

1131
00:38:05,417 --> 00:38:06,549
- Yeah, I could tell,

1132
00:38:06,618 --> 00:38:08,251
so tell me--tell us
your part of this.

1133
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,520
- Yeah, um, you know,
I didn't grow up

1134
00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:12,822
in the most functional
household.

1135
00:38:12,891 --> 00:38:14,691
My mom and my dad split.

1136
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,527
Um, my dad left me behind,
you know.

1137
00:38:17,596 --> 00:38:19,095
I had him
throughout my childhood,

1138
00:38:19,164 --> 00:38:20,797
and then when I got pregnant
at 16,

1139
00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:22,299
he just disappeared.

1140
00:38:22,367 --> 00:38:25,635
And that broke me.
Like, oh, my God.

1141
00:38:25,704 --> 00:38:27,170
[clears throat]
That was hard,

1142
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,605
and it's still hard
still to this day.

1143
00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:30,974
I'm 27 years old, and...
- Yeah.

1144
00:38:31,043 --> 00:38:32,976
- I think about my dad
every day.

1145
00:38:33,045 --> 00:38:35,178
I went to New York, um,

1146
00:38:35,247 --> 00:38:37,981
a few weeks ago
and I found his address.

1147
00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:41,685
And I showed up, um...

1148
00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:43,987
and...

1149
00:38:44,056 --> 00:38:45,388
he didn't wanna see me.

1150
00:38:45,457 --> 00:38:47,457
That was hard.

1151
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:49,392
Hard.

1152
00:38:49,461 --> 00:38:54,030
I don't want Stella or Nova
to feel how I feel.

1153
00:38:54,099 --> 00:38:55,865
And I feel like
if they continue

1154
00:38:55,934 --> 00:38:57,233
to do what they're doing,

1155
00:38:57,302 --> 00:38:59,569
they're gonna end up like me.

1156
00:39:01,573 --> 00:39:04,441
- Right, and so this is the...
- [cries]

1157
00:39:04,509 --> 00:39:07,210
- Pathology
that goes on and on.

1158
00:39:07,279 --> 00:39:09,446
Her father abandoned her.

1159
00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:12,682
She chooses a man or men who--

1160
00:39:12,751 --> 00:39:13,883
- Do the same thing.
- Do the same thing

1161
00:39:13,952 --> 00:39:16,353
to her daughter.
- Or something similar.

1162
00:39:16,421 --> 00:39:17,454
- What does that mean?

1163
00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:19,823
It just means
that you guys have

1164
00:39:19,891 --> 00:39:24,594
to be the change advocates
to change and disrupt

1165
00:39:24,663 --> 00:39:28,298
the dysfunctional pattern
so your daughters don't grow up

1166
00:39:28,367 --> 00:39:33,737
to choose men who abandon them
and their kids.

1167
00:39:33,805 --> 00:39:35,071
- Yeah.
- And my hope

1168
00:39:35,140 --> 00:39:37,340
is that by her being
so emotionally vulnerable

1169
00:39:37,409 --> 00:39:39,209
and telling this story,
you guys get the message

1170
00:39:39,277 --> 00:39:40,877
that you do not want your kids

1171
00:39:40,946 --> 00:39:42,078
feeling like this
when they're 30.

1172
00:39:42,147 --> 00:39:43,513
- I mean, this is so painful
to see.

1173
00:39:43,582 --> 00:39:45,181
- This is why
we're spending all this energy.

1174
00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:47,117
- That's not an option
on this side.

1175
00:39:47,185 --> 00:39:48,218
- Huh?
- Said that's not an option

1176
00:39:48,286 --> 00:39:49,719
on this side.

1177
00:39:49,788 --> 00:39:53,223
I mean, Nova's not gonna be
feeling like that at 27, no.

1178
00:39:53,291 --> 00:39:55,392
- Yeah. Briana, you okay?

1179
00:39:55,460 --> 00:39:56,626
- I'm okay.

1180
00:39:56,695 --> 00:39:57,761
- I'm gonna sit with you.

1181
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:58,762
Come on. Let's sit.

1182
00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:00,296
[laughs]
- Okay. Perfect.

1183
00:40:00,365 --> 00:40:01,464
Perfect.

1184
00:40:01,533 --> 00:40:02,966
Well, thank you, Coach B,
really.

1185
00:40:03,034 --> 00:40:05,735
And, uh, of course we are--
have deep hopes

1186
00:40:05,804 --> 00:40:07,971
that they will continue
to build a stronger family.

1187
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:09,406
- Absolutely.

1188
00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:11,408
And that's all
for the "Teen Mom 2" reunion.

1189
00:40:11,476 --> 00:40:13,243
Thanks again
to the entire cast and crew

1190
00:40:13,311 --> 00:40:15,111
for another
unforgettable season.

1191
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:17,747
- Remember, young people
who have sex without protection

1192
00:40:17,816 --> 00:40:21,251
on a regular basis have
an 85% chance of pregnancy

1193
00:40:21,319 --> 00:40:22,986
within a year.

1194
00:40:23,054 --> 00:40:24,287
Birth control
gives you the power

1195
00:40:24,356 --> 00:40:25,955
to decide your future.

1196
00:40:26,024 --> 00:40:29,826
Find the method that is right
for you at bedsider.org.

1197
00:40:29,895 --> 00:40:32,462
For Nessa and for myself,
we'll see you next time

1198
00:40:32,531 --> 00:40:34,197
on the "Teen Mom 2" reunion.

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[cheers and applause]

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<i> [upbeat music]</i>

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<i> ♪ ♪</i>