1 00:00:00,968 --> 00:00:03,003 - ♪ MTV ♪ 2 00:00:07,975 --> 00:00:09,910 - Previously on the "Teen Mom 2" reunion... 3 00:00:09,977 --> 00:00:11,044 Ashley-- 4 00:00:11,111 --> 00:00:12,513 - I'ma let y'all talk without me 5 00:00:12,579 --> 00:00:14,715 'cause I don't wanna be in none of that [bleep]. 6 00:00:14,781 --> 00:00:17,150 [dramatic music] 7 00:00:17,217 --> 00:00:19,253 - I may or may not be in a relationship right now. 8 00:00:19,319 --> 00:00:20,254 - Wait! - So-- 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,421 - What? 10 00:00:21,488 --> 00:00:22,589 - Why am I doing this? 11 00:00:22,656 --> 00:00:24,525 This is so crazy. 12 00:00:24,591 --> 00:00:25,592 - I wasn't open to more kids, 13 00:00:25,659 --> 00:00:27,227 but I'm now open to more kids. 14 00:00:28,795 --> 00:00:31,765 - Tonight we have a surprise for the entire cast 15 00:00:31,832 --> 00:00:32,766 and the audience. 16 00:00:32,833 --> 00:00:33,834 [all gasp] 17 00:00:33,901 --> 00:00:35,335 - Oh, my God. [cheering] 18 00:00:35,402 --> 00:00:37,237 - I guess you were wearing Chris' shirt. 19 00:00:37,304 --> 00:00:40,073 - Me and him literally have the same shirt. 20 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:41,808 - The crazy thing is, is I forgot I gave her that shirt. 21 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:43,377 - Is that your business? 22 00:00:43,443 --> 00:00:44,611 I don't think so. 23 00:00:44,678 --> 00:00:46,146 Not Kail's business either. 24 00:00:46,213 --> 00:00:48,282 She can kiss my ass. 25 00:00:48,348 --> 00:00:50,717 - Kail, it actually, like, hurts my heart to hear this. 26 00:00:50,784 --> 00:00:51,785 I am so sorry. 27 00:00:51,852 --> 00:00:53,020 I wish I'd known. 28 00:00:54,221 --> 00:00:57,057 [upbeat music] 29 00:00:57,124 --> 00:00:59,226 [cheers and applause] 30 00:00:59,293 --> 00:01:01,828 Welcome to part two of the "Teen Mom 2" reunion. 31 00:01:01,895 --> 00:01:04,431 I'm your host, Dr. Drew, and my cohost Nessa 32 00:01:04,498 --> 00:01:06,333 will be joining me in a little bit. 33 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,435 But for now, I'm sitting here with Leah, 34 00:01:08,502 --> 00:01:14,208 Jaylan, Ashley, Bar, Briana, Devoin, and Jade. 35 00:01:14,274 --> 00:01:15,809 [cheers and applause] 36 00:01:15,876 --> 00:01:18,378 And all of them recently took part 37 00:01:18,445 --> 00:01:20,814 in the "Teen Mom Family Reunion," 38 00:01:20,881 --> 00:01:22,549 and we wanted to get your thoughts on what happened 39 00:01:22,616 --> 00:01:23,817 down in San Diego. 40 00:01:23,884 --> 00:01:25,452 So, Jade, you first. 41 00:01:25,519 --> 00:01:27,387 - For me, it was, like, life-changing. 42 00:01:27,454 --> 00:01:30,224 I think that separation from everything at home 43 00:01:30,290 --> 00:01:32,392 and meeting other people, getting to know 'em 44 00:01:32,459 --> 00:01:34,561 it was--it was--it was awesome. 45 00:01:34,628 --> 00:01:35,696 - Leah. 46 00:01:35,762 --> 00:01:36,930 - I mean, I had no idea 47 00:01:36,997 --> 00:01:38,165 what we were walking into 48 00:01:38,232 --> 00:01:39,700 at the "Teen Mom Family Reunion." 49 00:01:39,766 --> 00:01:41,568 But going there, I mean, I think it was a lot of fun. 50 00:01:41,635 --> 00:01:43,103 The activities were fun. 51 00:01:43,103 --> 00:01:46,006 Coach Bryant really helped me open up more 52 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:47,674 and not be so guarded. 53 00:01:47,741 --> 00:01:49,943 - You were just starting to feel emotions again. 54 00:01:50,010 --> 00:01:51,411 - Yeah. - And Jaylan, 55 00:01:51,478 --> 00:01:54,281 really, that was your first experience-- 56 00:01:54,348 --> 00:01:56,016 I guess you'd been in front of the cameras a little bit, 57 00:01:56,116 --> 00:01:57,818 but this was a little bit different environment. 58 00:01:57,885 --> 00:01:59,653 - Yeah, that was my first time actually meeting everybody 59 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,221 in person, so yeah. - Got it. 60 00:02:01,288 --> 00:02:03,824 And this is your first time in, uh, this thing 61 00:02:03,891 --> 00:02:05,192 we call the reunion show. 62 00:02:05,259 --> 00:02:06,660 How is that going for you so far? 63 00:02:06,727 --> 00:02:09,096 How you feel? - Well, I mean, it's... 64 00:02:09,162 --> 00:02:10,797 it is everything I heard it would be. 65 00:02:10,864 --> 00:02:12,332 So-- [laughter] 66 00:02:12,399 --> 00:02:13,634 [indistinct] 67 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:14,868 I guess I gotta be ready for it. 68 00:02:14,935 --> 00:02:16,670 I'm ready, so let's do it. Yeah. 69 00:02:16,737 --> 00:02:18,272 - Ashley. - I had a good experience. 70 00:02:18,338 --> 00:02:20,340 I think I learned a lot of things 71 00:02:20,407 --> 00:02:23,243 I didn't expect to really learn from Coach B. 72 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:24,778 - Briana. - I had a blast. 73 00:02:24,845 --> 00:02:26,480 The best experience I've had thus far 74 00:02:26,547 --> 00:02:27,915 with "Teen Mom." - Oh, good for you. 75 00:02:27,981 --> 00:02:29,149 And Bar, I noticed you were really bonding 76 00:02:29,216 --> 00:02:30,317 with the other dads. 77 00:02:30,384 --> 00:02:32,085 - Yeah. It was cool. - Good, right? 78 00:02:32,152 --> 00:02:33,253 - Yeah, that's always how it work, though. 79 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,855 The dads always do that. [laughs] 80 00:02:34,922 --> 00:02:37,658 - Well, we have a surprise for the entire cast 81 00:02:37,724 --> 00:02:38,659 and the audience. 82 00:02:38,725 --> 00:02:40,093 Come on out, Coach B. 83 00:02:40,127 --> 00:02:41,295 [all gasp] - Oh, [bleep]! 84 00:02:41,361 --> 00:02:42,596 - Oh, my God! 85 00:02:42,663 --> 00:02:45,599 [cheers and applause] 86 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:47,701 - Hi. How are you? 87 00:02:47,768 --> 00:02:48,869 - It's good to see you. 88 00:02:50,604 --> 00:02:51,772 - Welcome, Coach B. 89 00:02:51,839 --> 00:02:53,307 We appreciate so much you being here. 90 00:02:53,373 --> 00:02:56,143 And it's a chance to check in with everybody 91 00:02:56,210 --> 00:02:58,111 since you last saw them, so have at it. 92 00:02:58,178 --> 00:03:01,481 - Yeah, obviously, we've, uh, had a lot of breakthroughs 93 00:03:01,548 --> 00:03:02,583 and shared a lot of moments, 94 00:03:02,649 --> 00:03:05,052 and Jade, I wanna start with you. 95 00:03:05,085 --> 00:03:06,820 If you can kinda just tell me a little bit of, like, 96 00:03:06,887 --> 00:03:10,524 what you took from the reunion and what you've implemented. 97 00:03:10,591 --> 00:03:12,793 - Well, one thing I can say, 98 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:15,495 make sure you process before you produce. 99 00:03:15,562 --> 00:03:17,798 I feel like I'm thinking about a million things all the time, 100 00:03:17,865 --> 00:03:19,833 so the moment someone says something, 101 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:22,536 in my head, the first thing that pops up 102 00:03:22,603 --> 00:03:24,738 probably isn't, like, the proper thing 103 00:03:24,805 --> 00:03:26,240 in the moment because in that moment, 104 00:03:26,306 --> 00:03:28,475 I know that I might say something 105 00:03:28,542 --> 00:03:30,210 or act a certain way 106 00:03:30,277 --> 00:03:31,879 where I'm like, uh, I'm probably not gonna be 107 00:03:31,945 --> 00:03:33,647 comfortable with that, so how 'bout I go home. 108 00:03:33,714 --> 00:03:35,148 Lemme sleep on that. 109 00:03:35,215 --> 00:03:36,350 - That was one of our tools-- 110 00:03:36,416 --> 00:03:37,718 - 'Cause I'm more of a reactor, 111 00:03:37,784 --> 00:03:41,455 so I think it's me learning to not just react. 112 00:03:41,522 --> 00:03:42,523 - Yeah. - You know? 113 00:03:42,589 --> 00:03:44,191 - Good for you. Thank you, Jade. 114 00:03:44,258 --> 00:03:46,693 Leah and Jaylan, bring me up to speed 115 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,830 just a little bit on how your emotions now 116 00:03:49,897 --> 00:03:51,598 are healthier and what that relationship is like 117 00:03:51,665 --> 00:03:52,666 for yourself. 118 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:54,101 - I mean, I think when it comes up, 119 00:03:54,168 --> 00:03:57,171 like, I definitely have conversations with myself. 120 00:03:57,237 --> 00:04:00,140 Like, I'm not-- I have no reason to be afraid. 121 00:04:00,207 --> 00:04:02,075 - Mm. - And being free, being open. 122 00:04:02,142 --> 00:04:03,343 - Mm. - It's allowed him 123 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:05,379 to move differently too, I think. 124 00:04:05,445 --> 00:04:07,447 - Yeah, I mean, I think for me, it just-- 125 00:04:07,514 --> 00:04:09,283 I just understood to be patient with her 126 00:04:09,349 --> 00:04:11,518 and just, you know, reassure her that I am here. 127 00:04:11,585 --> 00:04:14,154 And, uh, you know, just to be patient. 128 00:04:14,221 --> 00:04:17,191 - So finally, Ashley and Bar. 129 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:20,060 I know that we talked a lot about the roles, right, 130 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:24,064 and how his parent issues was married 131 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:27,301 to your need to control and be mama bear. 132 00:04:27,367 --> 00:04:29,403 And so your dysfunctions and your concerns 133 00:04:29,469 --> 00:04:31,238 actually married each other. 134 00:04:31,305 --> 00:04:32,673 So I just wanna know, 135 00:04:32,739 --> 00:04:35,709 have those roles shifted a little bit? 136 00:04:35,776 --> 00:04:37,444 - I think it's hard. - Of course. 137 00:04:37,511 --> 00:04:39,079 - Because obviously, like already said, 138 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:40,881 our traumas marry. 139 00:04:40,948 --> 00:04:43,550 Um, and I think part of my issue is knowing 140 00:04:43,617 --> 00:04:46,553 that he has trauma and wanting to protect him from that. 141 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:49,990 And on the other hand of that, I have my own issue 142 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:53,427 with wanting things to go left, right, up, down. 143 00:04:53,493 --> 00:04:57,497 And so I think that I'm trying this new thing 144 00:04:57,564 --> 00:04:59,166 where I'm like, you know what? 145 00:04:59,233 --> 00:05:00,901 If it doesn't work out for you, I'm sorry, boo. 146 00:05:01,034 --> 00:05:03,170 This is on--this is on you. - There you go. 147 00:05:03,237 --> 00:05:05,372 - And my ultimate goal is not to get him 148 00:05:05,439 --> 00:05:07,407 to be who I want him to be. 149 00:05:07,474 --> 00:05:10,911 It's for him to be passionate and love what he wants. 150 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:12,880 And in order for me to let that grow, 151 00:05:12,946 --> 00:05:14,481 I need to be quiet. 152 00:05:14,548 --> 00:05:16,116 So thanks, Coach B. - [laughs] 153 00:05:16,183 --> 00:05:17,317 - I wanna thank you for helping them. 154 00:05:17,384 --> 00:05:18,886 They seem happier and, more importantly, 155 00:05:18,952 --> 00:05:20,654 happier with one another. 156 00:05:20,721 --> 00:05:22,122 Was there something that stuck out? 157 00:05:22,189 --> 00:05:24,925 Was there a moment that really stays with you? 158 00:05:25,058 --> 00:05:26,527 - It wasn't a moment. 159 00:05:26,593 --> 00:05:29,329 I think for everyone, 160 00:05:29,396 --> 00:05:31,431 we connected at the heart space. 161 00:05:31,498 --> 00:05:33,934 And I always say, you connect at the mind space. 162 00:05:34,067 --> 00:05:35,903 When the memory goes, there you go. 163 00:05:35,969 --> 00:05:37,371 But if you connect at the heart space, 164 00:05:37,437 --> 00:05:38,805 you have a friend for life. 165 00:05:38,872 --> 00:05:42,476 And, uh, as much as they keep saying I helped them 166 00:05:42,543 --> 00:05:43,777 and I gave them all these tools-- 167 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:45,479 - [laughs] - I was very moved 168 00:05:45,546 --> 00:05:47,948 by how they all allowed me to see their heart. 169 00:05:48,081 --> 00:05:50,384 And I learned so much from each of them, 170 00:05:50,450 --> 00:05:51,952 and I added to my toolbox, 171 00:05:52,085 --> 00:05:53,220 so I wanna be able 172 00:05:53,287 --> 00:05:55,489 to say thank you to them in return as well. 173 00:05:55,556 --> 00:05:57,224 - Aww. both: Love you. 174 00:05:57,291 --> 00:05:58,358 - [laughs] - All the time. 175 00:05:58,425 --> 00:05:59,927 - To that, Coach B will be back, 176 00:06:00,027 --> 00:06:01,228 so don't go away. 177 00:06:01,295 --> 00:06:03,897 Up next, we'll meet Kail's new boyfriend. 178 00:06:04,031 --> 00:06:06,900 [applause] 179 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:09,269 ♪ ♪ 180 00:06:09,336 --> 00:06:10,504 - I may or may not be 181 00:06:10,571 --> 00:06:11,872 in a relationship right now. 182 00:06:11,939 --> 00:06:13,440 - Tell him to come downstairs. 183 00:06:13,507 --> 00:06:14,741 - Why am I doing this? 184 00:06:14,808 --> 00:06:16,443 This is so crazy. - Hi. 185 00:06:16,510 --> 00:06:18,645 - What's--what's your name? Kail won't tell us. 186 00:06:21,949 --> 00:06:23,917 [upbeat music] 187 00:06:23,984 --> 00:06:26,653 [cheers and applause] 188 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,689 - Welcome back to the "Teen Mom 2" reunion. 189 00:06:28,755 --> 00:06:31,024 We're back with Kail. [cheers] 190 00:06:31,091 --> 00:06:33,794 In part one, you told us you were seeing someone. 191 00:06:33,861 --> 00:06:35,362 We'd love him to come in and sit down. 192 00:06:35,429 --> 00:06:37,097 We'd like to talk to him. - Can we say hi to him? 193 00:06:37,164 --> 00:06:38,765 - [laughs] - Or... 194 00:06:38,832 --> 00:06:39,933 please. 195 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,168 - Tell him to come downstairs. 196 00:06:41,235 --> 00:06:42,936 - Is he here? - [laughs] 197 00:06:43,003 --> 00:06:44,104 - Why am I doing this? 198 00:06:44,171 --> 00:06:45,506 This is so crazy. 199 00:06:45,572 --> 00:06:46,907 - Why am I nervous? - I know-- 200 00:06:46,974 --> 00:06:48,375 - I'm nervous right now. - Looking around the corner. 201 00:06:48,442 --> 00:06:49,643 - What's going on? - Mom. 202 00:06:49,710 --> 00:06:51,078 - Hey, hey. - Wait, hold on. 203 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:52,246 Can we-- - Squat down. 204 00:06:52,312 --> 00:06:53,680 - Hi. - What's--what's your name? 205 00:06:53,747 --> 00:06:54,982 Kail won't tell us. 206 00:06:55,048 --> 00:06:56,183 - No, no, no, no, no. Don't say your name. 207 00:06:56,250 --> 00:06:57,417 Don't you dare. 208 00:06:57,484 --> 00:06:58,552 - Nice to meet you nonetheless. 209 00:06:58,619 --> 00:06:59,953 - Nice to meet you. 210 00:07:00,020 --> 00:07:01,054 - You're making Kail very happy, 211 00:07:01,121 --> 00:07:02,923 and we thank you for that. 212 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:03,957 - No problem. 213 00:07:04,024 --> 00:07:06,593 - Is she making you happy as well? 214 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:07,661 - Yes. - Yeah? 215 00:07:07,728 --> 00:07:09,796 - Very. - How did you guys meet? 216 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:11,098 - Don't tell them. 217 00:07:11,165 --> 00:07:12,966 - Kail, he's a-- - [laughs] 218 00:07:13,033 --> 00:07:14,568 - Don't--don't you listen to her. 219 00:07:14,635 --> 00:07:16,403 [laughs] - And that is my cue 220 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:17,871 to go back to work. 221 00:07:17,938 --> 00:07:20,440 - Bye. - Bye. 222 00:07:20,507 --> 00:07:21,575 - All right, Kail. 223 00:07:21,642 --> 00:07:23,677 Let's talk about you and Briana. 224 00:07:23,744 --> 00:07:26,313 - I wish I had her address. 225 00:07:26,380 --> 00:07:28,115 So I could send her a gift. 226 00:07:28,182 --> 00:07:30,083 I'd [bleep] buy her a treadmill. 227 00:07:30,150 --> 00:07:34,621 Instead of running your mouth, run some [bleep] miles. 228 00:07:34,688 --> 00:07:37,958 - What went through your mind when you received the treadmill 229 00:07:38,058 --> 00:07:39,726 that Briana had sent you? 230 00:07:39,793 --> 00:07:40,928 - I mean, at the end of the day, 231 00:07:41,061 --> 00:07:43,831 I think it's another form of projection. 232 00:07:43,897 --> 00:07:46,500 You have to distract people from your own insecurities 233 00:07:46,567 --> 00:07:48,235 and from your own self-hate. 234 00:07:48,302 --> 00:07:50,337 And "Kail's big, Kail's overweight, 235 00:07:50,404 --> 00:07:51,572 Kail's this, Kail's that," 236 00:07:51,638 --> 00:07:53,140 it distracts her 237 00:07:53,207 --> 00:07:55,375 from how she feels about herself. 238 00:07:55,442 --> 00:07:57,077 - Is it fat-shaming? 239 00:07:57,144 --> 00:07:58,212 Is that what she's trying to do? 240 00:07:58,278 --> 00:07:59,580 - Absolutely. 241 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:01,215 - How did you feel about Chris asking Briana 242 00:08:01,281 --> 00:08:04,151 to be a guest on his podcast? 243 00:08:04,218 --> 00:08:05,219 - I don't think I was upset. 244 00:08:05,285 --> 00:08:07,688 I think it's just another... 245 00:08:07,754 --> 00:08:10,190 you know, the people-- your enemies can't betray you. 246 00:08:10,257 --> 00:08:12,526 The people that you have kids with and the people 247 00:08:12,593 --> 00:08:13,861 that you've been in a relationship with 248 00:08:13,927 --> 00:08:16,296 can betray you, and so, you know, 249 00:08:16,363 --> 00:08:19,366 that was just another thing that he did 250 00:08:19,433 --> 00:08:22,069 that was a form of betrayal, in my opinion. 251 00:08:22,135 --> 00:08:25,038 - And fans noticed that you had unfollowed Leah. 252 00:08:25,072 --> 00:08:27,207 - I unfollowed every single person I was following. 253 00:08:27,274 --> 00:08:28,775 [laughs] I even unfollowed you, Nessa. 254 00:08:28,842 --> 00:08:30,077 - [laughs] - And, um, 255 00:08:30,143 --> 00:08:31,879 a couple weeks ago, it was just like, 256 00:08:31,945 --> 00:08:34,281 I was having a meltdown and unfollowed everyone. 257 00:08:34,348 --> 00:08:36,049 - There's no issues between you and Leah. 258 00:08:36,083 --> 00:08:38,385 Is that correct? - As far as I'm aware, 259 00:08:38,452 --> 00:08:40,120 there are no issues between me and Leah. 260 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:41,288 - Okay. 261 00:08:41,355 --> 00:08:43,056 Now, Javi was in the mix, 262 00:08:43,090 --> 00:08:44,324 obviously, we've been discussing. 263 00:08:44,391 --> 00:08:45,959 But he and Vee were chatting a bit. 264 00:08:46,059 --> 00:08:50,264 And Vee told him that your miscarriage with Javi 265 00:08:50,330 --> 00:08:51,598 might not have been his. 266 00:08:51,665 --> 00:08:53,333 What was your reaction to that? 267 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,504 - That was a baby that Javi and I tried for, 268 00:08:57,571 --> 00:08:59,940 so I don't know why she said that, 269 00:09:00,073 --> 00:09:02,309 but I think the biggest takeaway for me 270 00:09:02,376 --> 00:09:03,944 is that I have done things in my life 271 00:09:04,077 --> 00:09:06,146 that I'm not proud of, and, you know, 272 00:09:06,213 --> 00:09:08,649 if I want other people to forgive me for things, 273 00:09:08,715 --> 00:09:10,384 then I can't be a hypocrite and turn around 274 00:09:10,450 --> 00:09:11,919 and not forgive her, and, you know, 275 00:09:11,985 --> 00:09:13,787 her keeping it a secret for four years 276 00:09:13,854 --> 00:09:15,722 and starting a podcast with me, 277 00:09:15,789 --> 00:09:17,324 that has been the hardest... 278 00:09:17,391 --> 00:09:18,592 - Ooh, boy. - Part of it. 279 00:09:18,659 --> 00:09:20,460 - Yeah, the deception - Right, for sure. 280 00:09:20,527 --> 00:09:21,929 - Um, I also never got 281 00:09:22,029 --> 00:09:23,597 to formally apologize to Jenelle. 282 00:09:23,664 --> 00:09:27,768 I don't think it was fair for me to have blamed her 283 00:09:27,835 --> 00:09:29,303 for leaking my pregnancy news. 284 00:09:29,369 --> 00:09:30,771 I think when she tweeted me, 285 00:09:30,838 --> 00:09:32,673 she genuinely thought that the news was out. 286 00:09:32,739 --> 00:09:34,942 I couldn't have ever guessed that it was Vee and Javi. 287 00:09:35,042 --> 00:09:36,577 Um, I did post it on my Instagram 288 00:09:36,643 --> 00:09:38,579 just knowing that I publicly blamed her 289 00:09:38,645 --> 00:09:41,682 for this, so I needed to also publicly apologize. 290 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:43,116 - I'm so glad you did this. 291 00:09:43,183 --> 00:09:44,885 All right, Kail, on Instagram 292 00:09:44,952 --> 00:09:47,321 you revealed that you've been diagnosed with depression. 293 00:09:47,387 --> 00:09:48,922 Do you wanna talk any more about that 294 00:09:49,056 --> 00:09:50,924 and about what you've done to take care of yourself? 295 00:09:51,058 --> 00:09:53,093 - Um, I see my therapist twice a week. 296 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,797 Right now, I think minimizing my communications with Javi 297 00:09:56,864 --> 00:09:58,499 is the number one thing 298 00:09:58,565 --> 00:10:00,167 that I need to stay consistent with 299 00:10:00,234 --> 00:10:02,903 because he seems to be a huge trigger for me. 300 00:10:02,970 --> 00:10:04,505 - Right, and of course parenting itself 301 00:10:04,571 --> 00:10:06,073 is extremely stressful, 302 00:10:06,139 --> 00:10:08,876 and then dealing with three dads 303 00:10:08,942 --> 00:10:11,278 with different, you know, levels of commitment. 304 00:10:11,345 --> 00:10:14,081 I mean, my God, that, to me, just sounds overwhelming, 305 00:10:14,081 --> 00:10:16,483 and overwhelming can feel depressing. 306 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:18,752 - I have a question: have you always been going to therapy, 307 00:10:18,819 --> 00:10:22,189 or was it something that led you to want to go 308 00:10:22,256 --> 00:10:23,891 seeing your therapist twice a week? 309 00:10:24,024 --> 00:10:26,126 - In October of 2019, 310 00:10:26,193 --> 00:10:28,362 someone almost took my life, and that was-- 311 00:10:28,428 --> 00:10:30,764 - Oh, my gosh. - You know, the pivotal moment 312 00:10:30,831 --> 00:10:33,700 in my life where I was like, I need help. 313 00:10:33,767 --> 00:10:36,637 And so I've been in therapy since then. 314 00:10:36,703 --> 00:10:39,072 - I didn't--don't think I knew about this traumatic event. 315 00:10:39,139 --> 00:10:40,374 Can you talk to us about it? 316 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,676 Was it, like, a domestic abuse situation? 317 00:10:42,743 --> 00:10:44,244 Was it just a random act of violence? 318 00:10:44,311 --> 00:10:46,613 Was it--I mean, was it somebody you knew? 319 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:49,883 - Um, Chris almost killed me in October of 2019. 320 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:52,786 With dom--by domestic violence. - Oh, my. 321 00:10:52,853 --> 00:10:53,854 Okay. 322 00:10:53,921 --> 00:10:55,556 Kail, can I just say, 323 00:10:55,622 --> 00:10:57,391 it actually, like, hurts my heart to hear this. 324 00:10:57,457 --> 00:10:59,359 I--you know, we've been with you a long time, 325 00:10:59,426 --> 00:11:01,628 I am so sorry. I wish I'd known. 326 00:11:01,695 --> 00:11:04,064 No one would know this if you didn't share it. 327 00:11:04,064 --> 00:11:05,499 I am so heartbroken for you. 328 00:11:05,566 --> 00:11:07,067 I'm really sorry. - Yeah. 329 00:11:07,067 --> 00:11:09,336 - It's very, very painful to hear you say this, 330 00:11:09,403 --> 00:11:10,904 and, I mean, my goodness. 331 00:11:10,971 --> 00:11:12,606 I'm so glad you're in treatment. 332 00:11:12,673 --> 00:11:15,809 - I just haven't figured out the right time or way 333 00:11:15,876 --> 00:11:18,078 to, you know, tell my whole story. 334 00:11:18,078 --> 00:11:20,113 - No one knew you were going through this. 335 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:21,381 - I don't think it's something 336 00:11:21,448 --> 00:11:24,251 that people just openly talk about. 337 00:11:24,318 --> 00:11:26,119 I fully acknowledge that I, you know-- 338 00:11:26,186 --> 00:11:27,921 I pushed Javi in 2012, 339 00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:30,691 so I don't get to cry domestic violence victim 340 00:11:30,757 --> 00:11:33,026 because I also pushed my ex-husband, 341 00:11:33,026 --> 00:11:35,362 so it makes me a hypocrite. 342 00:11:35,429 --> 00:11:36,497 - Mm, no. 343 00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:39,366 No, they are two separate phenomenon. 344 00:11:39,433 --> 00:11:42,169 And as many things in mental health, 345 00:11:42,236 --> 00:11:44,471 people become flip sides of the same coin: 346 00:11:44,538 --> 00:11:46,707 victim, victimizer. 347 00:11:46,773 --> 00:11:48,275 Both roles go back and forth 348 00:11:48,342 --> 00:11:50,143 in all these things we're talking about. 349 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:52,246 So--and they're different. 350 00:11:52,312 --> 00:11:53,881 Not okay. - Mm-hmm. 351 00:11:53,947 --> 00:11:57,284 - But you were a victim of domestic violence. 352 00:11:57,351 --> 00:12:01,054 Has--is this something you've shared anywhere publicly? 353 00:12:01,121 --> 00:12:02,389 - No. 354 00:12:02,456 --> 00:12:03,924 I mean, people know that something happened 355 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:05,425 that changed my life, but I've never-- 356 00:12:05,492 --> 00:12:07,494 I've never told the story. 357 00:12:07,561 --> 00:12:08,662 I've never talked about it. 358 00:12:08,729 --> 00:12:10,464 I've never gone into detail. 359 00:12:10,531 --> 00:12:13,634 - And then Chris is now more visible in the series. 360 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:16,837 Should he be talking about... 361 00:12:16,904 --> 00:12:18,272 his perspective on all this? 362 00:12:18,338 --> 00:12:20,073 - It's not that I don't want y'all to question him. 363 00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:23,143 I just--I think that he knows what he did. 364 00:12:23,210 --> 00:12:24,578 It is what it is. 365 00:12:24,645 --> 00:12:26,580 - I really appreciate you being open today, Kail. 366 00:12:26,647 --> 00:12:27,881 - Yeah, I do too. 367 00:12:28,015 --> 00:12:30,117 You've refined things a little more today. 368 00:12:30,184 --> 00:12:31,585 I really thought abandonment... - Right. 369 00:12:31,652 --> 00:12:34,588 - Was a key problem for you, but betrayal, 370 00:12:34,655 --> 00:12:38,892 betrayal is really the real writ large phenomenon 371 00:12:39,026 --> 00:12:40,027 in your life right now. 372 00:12:40,027 --> 00:12:41,829 - Yeah, I would agree with that. 373 00:12:41,895 --> 00:12:44,464 - And I hope, you know-- and both Nessa and I hope 374 00:12:44,531 --> 00:12:46,266 this is not the end of your journey. 375 00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:48,836 Do you wanna stay on the show? 376 00:12:48,902 --> 00:12:50,270 - Not necessarily, no. 377 00:12:50,337 --> 00:12:52,039 I think that I need to move on. 378 00:12:52,072 --> 00:12:54,041 I need to do my own thing. - Hmm. 379 00:12:54,041 --> 00:12:56,076 I'm not gonna say goodbye to her today, am I? 380 00:12:56,143 --> 00:12:57,377 I'm not gonna say-- 381 00:12:57,444 --> 00:12:59,046 - I don't know. I feel like we should. 382 00:12:59,046 --> 00:13:00,414 - Really? - Whoa. 383 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,582 - Yeah. - This is like 384 00:13:01,648 --> 00:13:03,116 a breakup right now. 385 00:13:03,183 --> 00:13:04,284 - I think this needs to be my farewell. 386 00:13:04,351 --> 00:13:05,519 - I wasn't ready for this, Kail. 387 00:13:05,586 --> 00:13:06,753 - I think I'm ready. 388 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:08,288 I think that we just should part ways. 389 00:13:08,355 --> 00:13:09,690 I think this should be the end. 390 00:13:09,756 --> 00:13:10,858 - You will be a huge loss 391 00:13:10,924 --> 00:13:12,426 'cause I have deep affection for you. 392 00:13:12,493 --> 00:13:14,061 And, you know, you helped, uh, 393 00:13:14,127 --> 00:13:16,663 turn the tide of teen pregnancy in this country. 394 00:13:16,730 --> 00:13:18,398 You helped do that. - I hope so. 395 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:20,634 I hope I had a small part in that. 396 00:13:20,701 --> 00:13:21,835 - Yep, you did. 397 00:13:21,902 --> 00:13:23,504 - Awesome. Well, thank you, guys. 398 00:13:23,570 --> 00:13:26,406 - Thank you, Kail, and we appreciate you. 399 00:13:26,473 --> 00:13:28,408 Please say hi to the kids. - I will. 400 00:13:28,475 --> 00:13:30,777 - Up next, we dive into Briana's story. 401 00:13:30,844 --> 00:13:33,514 In the meantime, we'll see if Chris would like to join us. 402 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:35,282 [applause] 403 00:13:35,349 --> 00:13:36,316 - Oh, my, I really felt a lot 404 00:13:36,383 --> 00:13:37,317 of intense emotion-- 405 00:13:37,384 --> 00:13:39,720 - That was very unexpected. 406 00:13:39,786 --> 00:13:40,821 - Yeah. 407 00:13:40,888 --> 00:13:41,822 Oh, my goodness. 408 00:13:41,889 --> 00:13:43,257 - That's sad, man. 409 00:13:48,929 --> 00:13:51,165 - Just because I had relations 410 00:13:51,231 --> 00:13:52,733 with someone's ex-husband doesn't mean 411 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:54,668 I wanna do that every single time. 412 00:13:54,735 --> 00:13:56,803 I think she needs to come up with a better way 413 00:13:56,870 --> 00:13:58,405 to "try to drag me down." 414 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:02,408 - ♪ I got what you want ♪ 415 00:14:02,475 --> 00:14:05,077 ♪ I got what you like ♪ 416 00:14:05,144 --> 00:14:06,979 - We're back with the "Teen Mom 2" reunion, 417 00:14:07,046 --> 00:14:08,614 and it's time to talk to Briana. 418 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:09,915 [cheers and applause] 419 00:14:09,982 --> 00:14:12,551 Now, Briana dealt with more drama this season 420 00:14:12,618 --> 00:14:13,686 than any other mom: 421 00:14:13,753 --> 00:14:16,322 an engagement, a breakup, a lawsuit, 422 00:14:16,388 --> 00:14:18,457 a health scare for her younger child, 423 00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:21,393 and inconsistency from both her kids' fathers. 424 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:22,561 Let's refresh our memories 425 00:14:22,628 --> 00:14:24,363 of all that Briana went through. 426 00:14:24,430 --> 00:14:25,664 [upbeat music] 427 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:28,367 - Sure, go for it. 428 00:14:28,434 --> 00:14:30,302 Say a bad word, Stella. - Oh, [bleep]. 429 00:14:30,369 --> 00:14:31,504 - Oh, my God. 430 00:14:31,570 --> 00:14:32,638 - Oh, [bleep]. 431 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:34,340 - [laughing] Stella. Okay, that's it. 432 00:14:34,407 --> 00:14:35,908 No more. - [laughs] 433 00:14:35,975 --> 00:14:37,443 - Kail's baby daddy, Chris, 434 00:14:37,510 --> 00:14:39,678 wants to invite me on his podcast. 435 00:14:39,745 --> 00:14:41,814 - Did you tell Javi that you were gonna do this? 436 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:42,948 - The podcast? - Mm-hmm. 437 00:14:43,015 --> 00:14:44,083 - What did he say? 438 00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:45,818 - What can he say? 439 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:47,019 - What happened to you and Javi? 440 00:14:47,086 --> 00:14:50,289 - Going to do a podcast with Chris. 441 00:14:50,356 --> 00:14:52,358 The article says MTV wasn't there. 442 00:14:52,425 --> 00:14:53,993 He thought I lied to him about it. 443 00:14:54,059 --> 00:14:56,729 I don't think I want to talk to him ever again. 444 00:14:56,796 --> 00:14:57,863 Oh, my God. - Don't cry, Bri. 445 00:14:57,930 --> 00:14:59,365 - Bri. 446 00:14:59,432 --> 00:15:01,634 - I am going through a lawsuit right now with Kail. 447 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:03,202 I'm [bleep] annoyed. 448 00:15:03,302 --> 00:15:04,837 She's saying that I [bleep] Chris. 449 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:06,071 Like, damn, bitch, 450 00:15:06,138 --> 00:15:08,574 why are you so worried about my vagina? 451 00:15:08,641 --> 00:15:10,309 - Is Devoin coming? On the way? 452 00:15:10,342 --> 00:15:12,812 - I don't know, he asked me if he could take Nova, 453 00:15:12,878 --> 00:15:15,314 but she said no, so... 454 00:15:15,347 --> 00:15:17,850 I think Nova was definitely expecting Devoin. 455 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:19,952 He disappointed her. 456 00:15:20,019 --> 00:15:22,121 - I love Nova. - I know. 457 00:15:22,188 --> 00:15:26,225 - I'm definitely-- can do a lot more for her now. 458 00:15:26,325 --> 00:15:28,461 - Is that a commitment? - It's a promise. 459 00:15:28,527 --> 00:15:30,329 - So they're telling me that her heart 460 00:15:30,329 --> 00:15:31,964 is beating really fast. 461 00:15:32,031 --> 00:15:34,467 She has to wear a heart monitor. 462 00:15:34,533 --> 00:15:36,102 Luis said he was gonna come to the appointment, 463 00:15:36,168 --> 00:15:38,104 and he did not [bleep] show. 464 00:15:38,170 --> 00:15:41,474 Such a nice thing we did here. 465 00:15:41,540 --> 00:15:44,877 I really wanted the girls to experience something 466 00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:47,747 where all of us could be under the same household 467 00:15:47,813 --> 00:15:50,483 and just have a good time, and I think we did just that. 468 00:15:50,549 --> 00:15:52,418 [applause] 469 00:15:52,485 --> 00:15:54,220 - What do you remember most from this season? 470 00:15:54,353 --> 00:15:55,955 - Oh, God, it was a-- it's a blur. 471 00:15:56,021 --> 00:15:57,590 - First thing that comes to mind, though. 472 00:15:57,656 --> 00:15:59,024 - There was a lot. I dealt with a lot. 473 00:15:59,091 --> 00:16:00,793 Every day was something new. 474 00:16:00,860 --> 00:16:03,195 Um, but I'm here today and I feel better, 475 00:16:03,295 --> 00:16:05,564 so that's a positive. 476 00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:08,167 - So people were surprised to see you and Chris together. 477 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:10,402 So what motivated you to wanna be on his podcast? 478 00:16:10,469 --> 00:16:12,004 - Um, he just asked me, 479 00:16:12,071 --> 00:16:15,107 and I thought it was a good idea, 480 00:16:15,174 --> 00:16:16,842 and I just went for it. 481 00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:19,311 - And is it correct that he helped you out 482 00:16:19,311 --> 00:16:21,747 with an affidavit or a deposition or something? 483 00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:23,082 Or was it helpful? 484 00:16:23,149 --> 00:16:25,317 - My lawyer asked him questions under oath 485 00:16:25,351 --> 00:16:28,421 and he answered them, and that's that. 486 00:16:28,487 --> 00:16:29,488 - So I wanted to clear some things 487 00:16:29,555 --> 00:16:30,689 that, you know, 488 00:16:30,756 --> 00:16:32,792 we've seen or have heard... - Yeah. 489 00:16:32,858 --> 00:16:34,827 - That you and Chris might be intimate, 490 00:16:34,894 --> 00:16:36,028 have been intimate. 491 00:16:36,095 --> 00:16:37,630 - That story's so old. 492 00:16:37,696 --> 00:16:41,133 Just because I had relations with someone's ex-husband 493 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,669 doesn't mean I wanna do that every single time. 494 00:16:43,736 --> 00:16:45,704 I think that's annoying. I think that's played out. 495 00:16:45,771 --> 00:16:49,975 I think she needs to come up with a better... 496 00:16:50,042 --> 00:16:52,111 a better way to "try to drag me down" 497 00:16:52,178 --> 00:16:53,546 because that's not gonna get to me. 498 00:16:53,612 --> 00:16:58,584 - I know the "Teen Mom" world are gonna bug-- 499 00:16:58,651 --> 00:17:01,153 get mad at us if we don't follow that question 500 00:17:01,287 --> 00:17:03,089 with yes or no? 501 00:17:03,155 --> 00:17:04,957 Because you didn't really say yes or no. 502 00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:06,292 - Yes or no to what? 503 00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:08,394 If I [bleep] Chris? No. - No? 504 00:17:08,461 --> 00:17:09,929 - But why does that even matter? 505 00:17:09,995 --> 00:17:11,997 Why do you guys care? 506 00:17:12,064 --> 00:17:14,433 Like, is that your business? I don't think so. 507 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:16,535 I don't think it's anybody's business. 508 00:17:16,602 --> 00:17:18,637 Not Kail's business either. 509 00:17:18,704 --> 00:17:20,306 Chris is not her property. 510 00:17:20,306 --> 00:17:21,841 So even if I did want to [bleep] Chris, 511 00:17:21,907 --> 00:17:24,143 who the [bleep] cares? 512 00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:26,078 - Well, I just know that-- - Well, I think the fans-- 513 00:17:26,145 --> 00:17:27,480 - [laughs] - It was the fans who care. 514 00:17:27,546 --> 00:17:28,481 Wait, hold on. - Yeah, it's not-- 515 00:17:28,547 --> 00:17:29,749 and they come on-- 516 00:17:29,815 --> 00:17:31,550 they get on us for things we don't ask. 517 00:17:31,617 --> 00:17:32,952 - Okay. I get that. 518 00:17:33,018 --> 00:17:34,487 It's your job. 519 00:17:34,553 --> 00:17:36,055 - Do you understand, though, 520 00:17:36,122 --> 00:17:37,656 your fans, right-- - Yeah. 521 00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:39,191 - You know, people had pointed out 522 00:17:39,325 --> 00:17:41,360 that I guess you were wearing Chris' shirt 523 00:17:41,427 --> 00:17:43,729 or something like that on IG. 524 00:17:43,796 --> 00:17:46,665 Tell us--well, tell them. 525 00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:48,467 - First of all, 526 00:17:48,534 --> 00:17:51,470 I have a lot of graphic tees, number one. 527 00:17:51,537 --> 00:17:54,707 Number two, there's tons of "Goosebumps" shirt 528 00:17:54,774 --> 00:17:56,876 that I have. 529 00:17:56,942 --> 00:17:59,745 Me and him literally have the same shirt. 530 00:17:59,812 --> 00:18:02,148 Me and him could sit down right here with each other 531 00:18:02,281 --> 00:18:05,918 and have the same shirt on, and that's just that. 532 00:18:05,985 --> 00:18:07,420 - They follow you. They like you. 533 00:18:07,486 --> 00:18:08,988 They wanna know. - I guess. 534 00:18:09,054 --> 00:18:12,124 I'm trying to be as transparent and authentic as possible, 535 00:18:12,191 --> 00:18:13,826 so bring it on, I guess. 536 00:18:13,893 --> 00:18:16,362 - Do you think the situation can ever get cleared up? 537 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:18,164 - With who? - With you, Kail, even Javi. 538 00:18:18,297 --> 00:18:19,565 Just-- - I don't have no problems 539 00:18:19,632 --> 00:18:21,500 with anybody. 540 00:18:21,567 --> 00:18:23,102 I don't think it'll ever get cleared up. 541 00:18:23,169 --> 00:18:26,172 I don't care to fix it with her. 542 00:18:26,305 --> 00:18:28,474 She doesn't affect my day-to-day life. 543 00:18:28,541 --> 00:18:30,643 So probably not. 544 00:18:30,709 --> 00:18:32,511 She can kiss my ass. 545 00:18:32,578 --> 00:18:34,880 - So I wanna talk about your ex, Javi. 546 00:18:34,947 --> 00:18:37,216 Did you wanna be engaged to him? 547 00:18:37,316 --> 00:18:41,854 - I did see somewhat of a future with him. 548 00:18:41,921 --> 00:18:44,857 But I think it happened too fast. 549 00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:47,526 And he just wasn't the guy for me. 550 00:18:47,593 --> 00:18:50,062 I feel like once I accepted that ring, 551 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:54,400 he viewed me as an object and not as a wife. 552 00:18:54,467 --> 00:18:56,335 And then it just turned me off. 553 00:18:56,335 --> 00:18:58,170 - Have you started dating since the breakup? 554 00:18:58,237 --> 00:18:59,438 - No, but I want to. 555 00:18:59,505 --> 00:19:01,173 I've been celibate for nine, ten months. 556 00:19:01,273 --> 00:19:03,142 I'm ready to [bleep]. 557 00:19:03,275 --> 00:19:04,343 [laughter] 558 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:05,711 But I do wanna date. I wanna, like-- 559 00:19:05,778 --> 00:19:08,447 I downloaded a dating app. 560 00:19:08,514 --> 00:19:11,183 Um, so yeah, I'm trying to get out there. 561 00:19:11,283 --> 00:19:13,919 - The dads are coming up soon, uh, out here with us. 562 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:16,188 How has it been going with Devoin? 563 00:19:16,288 --> 00:19:18,390 - Better. Better. 564 00:19:18,457 --> 00:19:20,292 - And Luis has been stepping up a little bit 565 00:19:20,292 --> 00:19:22,294 with Stella, right? 566 00:19:22,361 --> 00:19:24,897 Is that not consistently so? 567 00:19:24,964 --> 00:19:27,933 - Um, again, like, last week, yes. 568 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,369 Today... 569 00:19:30,436 --> 00:19:33,405 me as a mother, I wish there was more. 570 00:19:33,472 --> 00:19:36,175 I wish I could get more out of Luis and Devoin 571 00:19:36,308 --> 00:19:38,310 for these girls. - Got it. 572 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:40,346 Up next, something I never thought would happen 573 00:19:40,413 --> 00:19:42,848 on one of these reunions: we're speaking to Chris. 574 00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:45,384 [applause] 575 00:19:45,451 --> 00:19:48,387 [percussive music] 576 00:19:48,454 --> 00:19:51,390 I wanted to get some clarity behind some rumors 577 00:19:51,457 --> 00:19:53,692 that you and Briana were more than just friends. 578 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:54,827 Any truth to that? 579 00:19:54,894 --> 00:19:56,162 - Uh... 580 00:19:58,693 --> 00:20:00,627 {\an7}[upbeat music] 581 00:20:00,627 --> 00:20:03,155 {\an7}[cheers and applause] 582 00:20:03,155 --> 00:20:04,693 {\an7}- After our discussion \h\h\h\h\h\hwith Kail, 583 00:20:04,693 --> 00:20:06,122 {\an7}we decided to have Chris \h\h\h\h\h\h\hon the show 584 00:20:06,122 --> 00:20:09,396 {\an7}\hto get his perspective, so please welcome Chris. 585 00:20:09,396 --> 00:20:10,561 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h[applause] - How y’all doing? 586 00:20:10,561 --> 00:20:13,495 {\an7}- Hey, it was nice to see you \h\h\hon camera this season. 587 00:20:13,495 --> 00:20:16,155 {\an7}How has the filming experience \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbeen for you? 588 00:20:16,155 --> 00:20:19,528 {\an7}- I mean, the good, I guess, \h\his, I got to kinda share 589 00:20:19,528 --> 00:20:22,627 {\an7}a little bit about me, \hbut the bad is, um, 590 00:20:22,627 --> 00:20:24,363 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hI felt like I was being silenced. 591 00:20:24,363 --> 00:20:27,264 {\an7}Like, you know, people had \ha little temper tantrum, 592 00:20:27,264 --> 00:20:29,495 {\an7}\hand ever since then, um, I ain’t heard from nobody. 593 00:20:29,495 --> 00:20:32,221 {\an7}\h\h\hLike, I didn’t even know y’all had a reunion going on. 594 00:20:32,221 --> 00:20:34,297 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Well, I hope during this reunion 595 00:20:34,297 --> 00:20:35,155 {\an7}with Dr. Drew and myself 596 00:20:35,155 --> 00:20:37,792 {\an7}\h\h\h\hthat you’re able to fully express yourself 597 00:20:37,792 --> 00:20:38,759 {\an7}however way you want to. 598 00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:41,297 {\an7}I mean, that’s the reason \hwhy we do this reunion. 599 00:20:41,297 --> 00:20:44,528 {\an7}\h\hI guess for me, I’m just trying to get more clarity. 600 00:20:44,528 --> 00:20:45,726 {\an7}What caused the demise? 601 00:20:45,726 --> 00:20:49,924 {\an7}- Between the Briana thing \hand me having a new baby, 602 00:20:49,924 --> 00:20:50,858 {\an7}that’s what it was. 603 00:20:50,858 --> 00:20:51,759 {\an7}I’ma tell y’all this, 604 00:20:51,759 --> 00:20:55,023 {\an7}before all this happened, \h\h\h\h\h\hwe was...us. 605 00:20:55,023 --> 00:20:56,297 {\an7}All right, I’m just gonna \h\h\h\hput it like that. 606 00:20:56,297 --> 00:20:57,693 {\an7}We was hanging out \hwith each other, 607 00:20:57,693 --> 00:20:58,858 {\an7}doing all that stuff. 608 00:20:58,858 --> 00:21:00,462 {\an7}And once this stuff broke, 609 00:21:00,462 --> 00:21:03,023 {\an7}you know, it was just-- \h\h\hit was--you know, 610 00:21:03,023 --> 00:21:04,726 {\an7}I am the worst person \h\h\h\hin the world. 611 00:21:04,726 --> 00:21:06,726 {\an7}- I wanna ask a couple questions about Briana. 612 00:21:06,726 --> 00:21:09,858 {\an7}\h\h\hAnd what made you want to get her for your podcast? 613 00:21:09,858 --> 00:21:11,221 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- It was just to share experiences. 614 00:21:11,221 --> 00:21:13,221 {\an7}It wasn’t to be, like, petty \h\h\h\hor anything, like-- 615 00:21:13,221 --> 00:21:14,627 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right. - It’s not like I’m trying 616 00:21:14,627 --> 00:21:15,990 {\an7}to purposely hurt this girl. 617 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:19,594 {\an7}- What made you agree to give a deposition 618 00:21:19,594 --> 00:21:20,792 {\an7}on Briana’s behalf? 619 00:21:20,792 --> 00:21:22,297 {\an7}- This whole thing put me \h\h\h\h\hin a tough spot 620 00:21:22,297 --> 00:21:23,825 {\an7}because it was like I had \h\h\h\hto choose sides. 621 00:21:23,825 --> 00:21:26,056 {\an7}They was trying to basically \h\hmake me appear in court, 622 00:21:26,056 --> 00:21:28,594 {\an7}and I ain’t even wanna do that, \h\h\hso I just told her, like, 623 00:21:28,594 --> 00:21:30,594 {\an7}you know, I said what I said. 624 00:21:30,594 --> 00:21:32,023 {\an7}\h\h\hYou know, like, I told her the story. 625 00:21:32,023 --> 00:21:33,056 {\an7}There’s nothing to hide, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, 626 00:21:33,056 --> 00:21:34,264 {\an7}so that was basically \h\h\h\hhow I had it. 627 00:21:34,264 --> 00:21:36,264 {\an7}\hBriana, I’m not saying, like, it’s all her fault. 628 00:21:36,264 --> 00:21:38,957 {\an7}\h\hBut she did, you know, talk about certain things, 629 00:21:38,957 --> 00:21:41,792 {\an7}like, that really wasn’t \h\h\h\h\h\hher business, 630 00:21:41,792 --> 00:21:42,627 {\an7}but it is what it is. 631 00:21:42,627 --> 00:21:45,759 {\an7}- I wanted to get some clarity \h\h\h\h\h\hbehind some rumors 632 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:48,693 {\an7}that you and Briana were \hmore than just friends. 633 00:21:48,693 --> 00:21:49,495 {\an7}Any truth to that? 634 00:21:49,495 --> 00:21:51,264 {\an7}- Nah, me and Bri, we was just cool. 635 00:21:51,264 --> 00:21:52,825 {\an7}Like, we hung out, don’t get it wrong, 636 00:21:52,825 --> 00:21:53,957 {\an7}but, like, it was just friends. 637 00:21:53,957 --> 00:21:55,957 {\an7}I was very respectful \hwith that, you know? 638 00:21:55,957 --> 00:21:58,528 {\an7}- Kail specifically alluded \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto the fact 639 00:21:58,528 --> 00:22:00,023 {\an7}that you two had \hslept together. 640 00:22:00,023 --> 00:22:04,891 {\an7}So do you wanna clarify what actually happened? 641 00:22:04,891 --> 00:22:05,924 {\an7}- Kail say a lot of stuff. 642 00:22:05,924 --> 00:22:07,122 {\an7}That don’t mean it’s true. 643 00:22:07,122 --> 00:22:09,089 {\an7}- What about someone \h\h\hon social media 644 00:22:09,089 --> 00:22:12,221 {\an7}pointing out that Briana came \hhome wearing the same shirt 645 00:22:12,221 --> 00:22:14,594 {\an7}\h\h\hthat you wore during the podcast? 646 00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:16,056 {\an7}- All right. \h\h[laughs] 647 00:22:16,056 --> 00:22:18,660 {\an7}That--I gave her my shirt. 648 00:22:18,660 --> 00:22:20,297 {\an7}She had, like, a beater \h\h\h\h\h\hon that day, 649 00:22:20,297 --> 00:22:22,155 {\an7}and she was like, "I’m cold," \h\h\hand I was like, "Here." 650 00:22:22,155 --> 00:22:23,330 {\an7}I mean, she asked me \h\h\h\hfor my shirt, 651 00:22:23,330 --> 00:22:24,528 {\an7}and I was like, "Here," \h\h\hand that was it. 652 00:22:24,528 --> 00:22:27,122 {\an7}Nothing more, nothing less. \h- And so she didn’t have 653 00:22:27,122 --> 00:22:28,155 {\an7}anything else packed with her? 654 00:22:28,155 --> 00:22:29,396 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah, she did have stuff packed, 655 00:22:29,396 --> 00:22:30,924 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbut, like, I ain’t think nothing of it. 656 00:22:30,924 --> 00:22:32,330 {\an7}You know, it was just, like, \h\h\h\h\hone of those things 657 00:22:32,330 --> 00:22:34,188 {\an7}like, all right, here, and the crazy thing is, 658 00:22:34,188 --> 00:22:35,660 {\an7}is I forgot I gave her \h\h\h\h\h\hthat shirt 659 00:22:35,660 --> 00:22:36,693 {\an7}’cause I was looking for it. 660 00:22:36,693 --> 00:22:39,264 {\an7}- Congrats on the birth \h\h\h\h\hof Chris Jr. 661 00:22:39,264 --> 00:22:40,023 {\an7}How’s he doing? 662 00:22:40,023 --> 00:22:41,957 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Oh, he good. He in there taking a nap. 663 00:22:41,957 --> 00:22:43,759 {\an7}He not really Junior, per se. 664 00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:45,297 {\an7}His real name--his first name-- \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\his Trew. 665 00:22:45,297 --> 00:22:47,957 {\an7}I just call him CJ ’cause, you know. 666 00:22:47,957 --> 00:22:48,759 {\an7}- Oh, okay. 667 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:51,155 {\an7}And are you still with Trew’s mom? 668 00:22:51,155 --> 00:22:53,221 {\an7}- Nah, like, I wasn’t \hin a place to date. 669 00:22:53,221 --> 00:22:54,594 {\an7}You know, like, mentally, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI wasn’t. 670 00:22:54,594 --> 00:22:56,188 {\an7}- What are some things \h\hyou wanna work on? 671 00:22:56,188 --> 00:22:58,330 {\an7}\h- I’ve been open about it. Like, I deal with depression. 672 00:22:58,330 --> 00:23:01,023 {\an7}You know, depression, anxiety, \h\h\h\h\hand things like that, 673 00:23:01,023 --> 00:23:02,297 {\an7}and, um, it really bothers me. 674 00:23:02,297 --> 00:23:05,825 {\an7}\h\h\h\hLike, you know, like, I could just wake up one day 675 00:23:05,825 --> 00:23:06,891 {\an7}and just be out of it. 676 00:23:06,891 --> 00:23:09,330 {\an7}\h\h- Have you been treated for some of these symptoms? 677 00:23:09,330 --> 00:23:12,825 {\an7}- So I put myself in therapy, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, 678 00:23:12,825 --> 00:23:14,056 {\an7}when that incident happened, 679 00:23:14,056 --> 00:23:15,396 {\an7}so almost three years 680 00:23:15,396 --> 00:23:16,297 {\an7}I’ve been doing therapy. 681 00:23:16,297 --> 00:23:18,122 {\an7}It’s kinda one of those, um-- 682 00:23:18,122 --> 00:23:20,297 {\an7}\hI just wasn’t happy with how things were. 683 00:23:20,297 --> 00:23:22,188 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I hear it. - So, you know, I kinda-- 684 00:23:22,188 --> 00:23:23,155 {\an7}- Yep. 685 00:23:23,155 --> 00:23:24,297 {\an7}So I wanna clear stuff up 686 00:23:24,297 --> 00:23:25,858 {\an7}that’s been swirling around \h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor a while. 687 00:23:25,858 --> 00:23:28,056 {\an7}\h\hAnd you mentioned that three years ago, 688 00:23:28,056 --> 00:23:30,297 {\an7}\h\h\hsomething happened that sent you to therapy. 689 00:23:30,297 --> 00:23:31,891 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm-hmm. - There have been allegations 690 00:23:31,891 --> 00:23:33,396 {\an7}of abuse between you two. 691 00:23:33,396 --> 00:23:34,957 {\an7}Can you clarify that for me? 692 00:23:34,957 --> 00:23:35,825 {\an7}- We both did some. 693 00:23:35,825 --> 00:23:38,693 {\an7}It’s--it’s--it’s faults \h\h\h\h\hon both sides. 694 00:23:38,693 --> 00:23:39,990 {\an7}Whatever’s been said about me \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfrom her 695 00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:42,221 {\an7}\h\h\h\hcan literally be said about them, so it’s more like 696 00:23:42,221 --> 00:23:43,594 {\an7}I ain’t about to sit here \h\h\h\h\hand tell y’all 697 00:23:43,594 --> 00:23:45,561 {\an7}exactly what this-- \hwhat’s happened, 698 00:23:45,561 --> 00:23:47,363 {\an7}But it’s been abuse \h\hon both sides. 699 00:23:47,363 --> 00:23:49,924 {\an7}- Did you ever threaten her \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith violence 700 00:23:49,924 --> 00:23:50,660 {\an7}or injure Kail? 701 00:23:50,660 --> 00:23:52,429 {\an7}- Injure? No. \h\h\h\h- No. 702 00:23:52,429 --> 00:23:54,561 {\an7}- She’s making it seem like \h\h\h\hI really beat her. 703 00:23:54,561 --> 00:23:56,221 {\an7}That’s the--that’s the story \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hgoing around 704 00:23:56,221 --> 00:23:57,561 {\an7}like I actually beat this girl. 705 00:23:57,561 --> 00:23:58,330 {\an7}I never beat her. 706 00:23:58,330 --> 00:24:00,561 {\an7}- Did you threaten her? \h\h\h- What I did--I-- 707 00:24:00,561 --> 00:24:01,495 {\an7}did I threaten her? 708 00:24:01,495 --> 00:24:03,627 {\an7}I might’ve said some things \h\h\h\h\h\h\hout of anger. 709 00:24:03,627 --> 00:24:05,594 {\an7}I don’t necessarily know \h\hexactly what I said, 710 00:24:05,594 --> 00:24:07,462 {\an7}\h\h\h\hbut I said some-- I’m not gonna stand here 711 00:24:07,462 --> 00:24:08,660 {\an7}and act like I’m innocent. 712 00:24:08,660 --> 00:24:09,825 {\an7}I did--I done things. 713 00:24:09,825 --> 00:24:11,297 {\an7}And I--and I served for it. 714 00:24:11,297 --> 00:24:13,825 {\an7}You know, like, I got handed my punishment. 715 00:24:13,825 --> 00:24:15,792 {\an7}\hI’m not ’bout to let y’all keep punishing me 716 00:24:15,792 --> 00:24:17,825 {\an7}\hfor something I did three, four years ago. 717 00:24:17,825 --> 00:24:19,759 {\an7}- No, that’s not my intention. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hTrust me. 718 00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:21,023 {\an7}\h\h- No, no, no. Not you. Not you. 719 00:24:21,023 --> 00:24:22,528 {\an7}I’m just saying, you know, \h\hI’m saying in general, 720 00:24:22,528 --> 00:24:23,759 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, that’s what people do. 721 00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:24,594 {\an7}They use my past as a way 722 00:24:24,594 --> 00:24:26,924 {\an7}to constantly try to, \h\h\h\h\hyou know-- 723 00:24:26,924 --> 00:24:27,858 {\an7}I’m honest with myself. 724 00:24:27,858 --> 00:24:29,693 {\an7}\h\hI’m, like, at a-- at a different place. 725 00:24:29,693 --> 00:24:31,396 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hLike I said, I’m not angry no more. 726 00:24:31,396 --> 00:24:32,528 {\an7}I’m not--I’m not mad. 727 00:24:32,528 --> 00:24:33,429 {\an7}I’m not none of that. 728 00:24:33,429 --> 00:24:35,221 {\an7}You know, it’s not-- and I wish the best, 729 00:24:35,221 --> 00:24:36,396 {\an7}you know, for everybody. 730 00:24:36,396 --> 00:24:37,264 {\an7}Um, as far as Kail, 731 00:24:37,264 --> 00:24:38,891 {\an7}like, I don’t have no issues \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith this girl. 732 00:24:38,891 --> 00:24:40,264 {\an7}Like, I genuinely wanna \h\h\h\h\h\hget along. 733 00:24:40,264 --> 00:24:42,188 {\an7}Our kids deserve it. \hIt’s been too long. 734 00:24:42,188 --> 00:24:44,792 {\an7}\h\h- She had said she was very much in love with you. 735 00:24:44,792 --> 00:24:45,726 {\an7}Were you in love with her? 736 00:24:45,726 --> 00:24:47,792 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah, I was in love with that girl. 737 00:24:47,792 --> 00:24:50,264 {\an7}\h\h\h\hThat’s why I chose to stay quiet for so long. 738 00:24:50,264 --> 00:24:52,089 {\an7}’Cause it’s like, yo, \hthat was really my-- 739 00:24:52,089 --> 00:24:54,122 {\an7}that was my dawg, like, \h\h\h\h\hyou feel me? 740 00:24:54,122 --> 00:24:56,089 {\an7}\hSo for all this to be going down, 741 00:24:56,089 --> 00:24:58,188 {\an7}it kinda--it do suck. 742 00:24:58,188 --> 00:24:59,122 {\an7}And I’m not gonna say-- 743 00:24:59,122 --> 00:25:01,089 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hlike, yeah, we can say we toxic now. 744 00:25:01,089 --> 00:25:02,990 {\an7}But we great when we get along. 745 00:25:02,990 --> 00:25:05,858 {\an7}\h\h\h- We’re about to wrap up, Chris, but any final thoughts? 746 00:25:05,858 --> 00:25:08,264 {\an7}- My kids are probably the only reason why I’m out here today, 747 00:25:08,264 --> 00:25:11,188 {\an7}\hespecially when I’m dealing with depression and all that. 748 00:25:11,188 --> 00:25:14,023 {\an7}\h\hMy kids, like, they keep me here. 749 00:25:14,023 --> 00:25:16,122 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hLike, sane. They keep me, like, happy. 750 00:25:16,122 --> 00:25:17,858 {\an7}\h- Well, Chris, thank you so much 751 00:25:17,858 --> 00:25:19,155 {\an7}for talking with us today, 752 00:25:19,155 --> 00:25:20,528 {\an7}and I hope everybody’s able 753 00:25:20,528 --> 00:25:22,726 {\an7}to work their differences out. 754 00:25:22,726 --> 00:25:25,221 {\an7}- Coming up next, we’ll be \hjoined by Ashley and Bar 755 00:25:25,221 --> 00:25:28,759 {\an7}and Ashley’s mom, Tea, \h\h\hafter the break. 756 00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:32,221 {\an7}[applause] 757 00:25:32,957 --> 00:25:34,396 {\an7}When you started talking \h\h\h\h\habout divorce, 758 00:25:34,396 --> 00:25:37,155 {\an7}that--that broke my heart \h\h\h\h\h\ha little bit. 759 00:25:37,155 --> 00:25:38,330 {\an7}- Believe me when I say, 760 00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:43,264 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hif I said it, I had just cause to say it. 761 00:25:47,209 --> 00:25:49,836 {\an7}[applause] 762 00:25:49,836 --> 00:25:51,737 {\an7}[upbeat music] 763 00:25:51,737 --> 00:25:52,440 {\an7}- And we’re back. 764 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,704 {\an7}\hWe’ve been talking with Ashley and Bar, 765 00:25:53,704 --> 00:25:57,077 {\an7}and we are joined now by Ashley’s mom, Tea. 766 00:25:57,077 --> 00:25:57,879 {\an7}Hi, Tea. Welcome. 767 00:25:57,879 --> 00:26:00,704 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- [laughs] [cheers and applause] 768 00:26:00,704 --> 00:26:03,945 {\an7}- Talk to us--how do you think \h\h\hthey’re doing as parents? 769 00:26:03,945 --> 00:26:06,143 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Um, I think they’re doing great as parents. 770 00:26:06,143 --> 00:26:08,879 {\an7}I’m really excited about watching them 771 00:26:08,879 --> 00:26:10,176 {\an7}mother and father Holly. 772 00:26:10,176 --> 00:26:13,242 {\an7}I think they are doing better \h\h\h\h\hthan I did for sure. 773 00:26:13,242 --> 00:26:15,737 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- [laughs] - So that’s a plus right there. 774 00:26:15,737 --> 00:26:19,209 {\an7}- How’s your relationship \h\hwith Shen these days? 775 00:26:19,209 --> 00:26:19,879 {\an7}- [sighs] 776 00:26:19,879 --> 00:26:21,473 {\an7}Why you ask that? \h\h[both laugh] 777 00:26:21,473 --> 00:26:23,539 {\an7}\h\h- Well, you know, we’ve seen the past, 778 00:26:23,539 --> 00:26:24,638 {\an7}but now it’s the present. 779 00:26:24,638 --> 00:26:26,638 {\an7}- I think our relationship \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\his better. 780 00:26:26,638 --> 00:26:29,374 {\an7}I like, uh, where we’re headed. 781 00:26:29,374 --> 00:26:30,803 {\an7}As time goes on, 782 00:26:30,803 --> 00:26:33,176 {\an7}I think me and Shen’ll \h\h\h\h\hbe just fine 783 00:26:33,176 --> 00:26:34,011 {\an7}as I always knew we was. 784 00:26:34,011 --> 00:26:36,638 {\an7}\hBut, you know, sometimes you just gotta let things 785 00:26:36,638 --> 00:26:39,011 {\an7}run its course because when \h\h\h\heverybody is trying 786 00:26:39,011 --> 00:26:41,638 {\an7}to make something be-- and it’s just not time. 787 00:26:41,638 --> 00:26:45,671 {\an7}And I think now is the season, now is the time for me and Shen 788 00:26:45,671 --> 00:26:49,011 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hto explore whatever it is for us 789 00:26:49,011 --> 00:26:53,143 {\an7}without anybody’s involvement. 790 00:26:53,143 --> 00:26:54,605 {\an7}Just her and I. \h\h- For sure. 791 00:26:54,605 --> 00:26:57,077 {\an7}- And Tea, you officiated \h\h\h\h\hat the wedding? 792 00:26:57,077 --> 00:26:59,011 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I did. - How was that experience? 793 00:26:59,011 --> 00:27:01,110 {\an7}- Do we really even have \h\h\h\h\hto mention it? 794 00:27:01,110 --> 00:27:01,704 {\an7}I was-- 795 00:27:01,704 --> 00:27:03,275 {\an7}- There wasn’t a wedding. \h\h\h- I was not happy. 796 00:27:03,275 --> 00:27:05,143 {\an7}Don’t look at me like that, \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hBar. 797 00:27:05,143 --> 00:27:05,770 {\an7}- [laughs] 798 00:27:05,770 --> 00:27:06,945 {\an7}- Don’t even look at me \h\h\h\h\h\hlike that. 799 00:27:06,945 --> 00:27:09,978 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI didn’t want it to happen like that, you know? 800 00:27:09,978 --> 00:27:12,044 {\an7}But they were gonna do it \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hanyway. 801 00:27:12,044 --> 00:27:14,407 {\an7}And so why not it be me? 802 00:27:14,407 --> 00:27:15,737 {\an7}Um, but I would’ve wanted 803 00:27:15,737 --> 00:27:18,374 {\an7}\h\h\h\hfor them to have the big fairy tale thing 804 00:27:18,374 --> 00:27:20,638 {\an7}\hand, you know, I think hopefully 805 00:27:20,638 --> 00:27:21,473 {\an7}we can still see that. 806 00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:24,044 {\an7}- Tea, there--when you started \h\h\h\htalking about divorce, 807 00:27:24,044 --> 00:27:26,704 {\an7}that--that broke my heart \h\h\h\h\h\ha little bit. 808 00:27:26,704 --> 00:27:29,341 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- It’s no secret. I never wanted you with Bar. 809 00:27:29,341 --> 00:27:31,572 {\an7}Girl, you better divorce him. 810 00:27:31,572 --> 00:27:33,671 {\an7}- You still feel that way? 811 00:27:33,671 --> 00:27:36,077 {\an7}- Um, believe me when I say, 812 00:27:36,077 --> 00:27:40,473 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hif I said it, I had just cause to say it. 813 00:27:40,473 --> 00:27:44,110 {\an7}Um, and so--but we’ll work out \h\h\h\h\h\hour family things. 814 00:27:44,110 --> 00:27:45,638 {\an7}You guys don’t see everything. 815 00:27:45,638 --> 00:27:48,110 {\an7}Now, do I feel like that \h\h\h\h\h\h\hin general? 816 00:27:48,110 --> 00:27:49,737 {\an7}No, because I love Bar. 817 00:27:49,737 --> 00:27:50,638 {\an7}- Ashley, was she right 818 00:27:50,638 --> 00:27:51,836 {\an7}to feel that way \hat that moment? 819 00:27:51,836 --> 00:27:54,209 {\an7}- Everyone is entitled \h\h\hto their opinion. 820 00:27:54,209 --> 00:27:57,978 {\an7}I’m gonna do what I want to do \h\hbecause I’m a grown woman. 821 00:27:57,978 --> 00:28:01,945 {\an7}I respect my mom’s opinion \hbecause my mom has lived 822 00:28:01,945 --> 00:28:03,770 {\an7}a thousand more lives than me. 823 00:28:03,770 --> 00:28:04,605 {\an7}- Girl, don’t lie. 824 00:28:04,605 --> 00:28:06,143 {\an7}- Not--not your age! \h\h\h\h\h[laughter] 825 00:28:06,143 --> 00:28:07,572 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- Your face. You hear that [bleep]? 826 00:28:07,572 --> 00:28:09,605 {\an7}\h- I’m talking about-- - Don’t put that on me. 827 00:28:09,605 --> 00:28:10,638 {\an7}- I’m talking about your-- 828 00:28:10,638 --> 00:28:12,638 {\an7}\h\h\hyou know, the stuff that you’ve been through. 829 00:28:12,638 --> 00:28:14,473 {\an7}- Trying to make me older \h\h\hthan I need to be. 830 00:28:14,473 --> 00:28:16,440 {\an7}\h\h\h- The knowledge that she has to share 831 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,275 {\an7}really is probably worth \h\h\h\ha thousand lives. 832 00:28:18,275 --> 00:28:19,506 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah. - You know what I’m saying? 833 00:28:19,506 --> 00:28:21,605 {\an7}So I appreciate what she says. 834 00:28:21,605 --> 00:28:24,671 {\an7}I listen to what she says, \hand it’s no hard feelings 835 00:28:24,671 --> 00:28:25,506 {\an7}because she’s my mama. 836 00:28:25,506 --> 00:28:28,176 {\an7}And another thing that people \h\h\h\hdon’t understand is, 837 00:28:28,176 --> 00:28:29,879 {\an7}she’s kinda like Bar’s mom. 838 00:28:29,879 --> 00:28:31,770 {\an7}And so when Bar [bleep] up, 839 00:28:31,770 --> 00:28:32,770 {\an7}she’s gonna cuss him out 840 00:28:32,770 --> 00:28:34,638 {\an7}\h\h\hand do everything that she would do to me 841 00:28:34,638 --> 00:28:36,506 {\an7}because she’s our mom. 842 00:28:36,506 --> 00:28:37,912 {\an7}And so I don’t take that-- 843 00:28:37,912 --> 00:28:39,704 {\an7}- But ultimately, \hshe’s your mom. 844 00:28:39,704 --> 00:28:41,638 {\an7}And that’s why divorce \h\h\h\hcomes into it. 845 00:28:41,638 --> 00:28:42,836 {\an7}- That is true. \h\h\h\h- Yeah. 846 00:28:42,836 --> 00:28:45,275 {\an7}- But on the flip side of that, 847 00:28:45,275 --> 00:28:47,945 {\an7}if it was me [bleep] up \hand Bar calling her, 848 00:28:47,945 --> 00:28:50,473 {\an7}she would say, "Bar... 849 00:28:50,473 --> 00:28:51,704 {\an7}she ain’t doing right." 850 00:28:51,704 --> 00:28:52,879 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- Leave her. - "You might need to make 851 00:28:52,879 --> 00:28:54,209 {\an7}a better decision"... \h\h\h\h- Leave her. 852 00:28:54,209 --> 00:28:55,308 {\an7}- "Than my daughter." 853 00:28:55,308 --> 00:28:56,737 {\an7}- Tea, you good with them \h\h\htogether right now? 854 00:28:56,737 --> 00:29:00,671 {\an7}- My issue is, is that when they aren’t getting along, 855 00:29:00,671 --> 00:29:03,836 {\an7}I don’t wanna see it fall out \h\h\h\h\hall over the place. 856 00:29:03,836 --> 00:29:06,506 {\an7}I want them to be able \h\h\h\hto contain that 857 00:29:06,506 --> 00:29:10,176 {\an7}’cause it takes some steadiness \h\h\h\hto make it to 20 years. 858 00:29:10,176 --> 00:29:12,308 {\an7}\h\h\h- Well, I know, watching the journey, 859 00:29:12,308 --> 00:29:13,572 {\an7}it has been incredible, 860 00:29:13,572 --> 00:29:15,275 {\an7}especially the ending \h\h\hof this season. 861 00:29:15,275 --> 00:29:17,506 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Mm. - You two really overcame. 862 00:29:17,506 --> 00:29:19,044 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hI didn’t know what was gonna happen. 863 00:29:19,044 --> 00:29:20,671 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Me either. - From the start of the season. 864 00:29:20,671 --> 00:29:21,506 {\an7}- I didn’t at all. 865 00:29:21,506 --> 00:29:23,506 {\an7}- I mean, you know, Ashley, 866 00:29:23,506 --> 00:29:24,879 {\an7}\h\h\hshe was clear in what she wanted. 867 00:29:24,879 --> 00:29:26,737 {\an7}And she wasn’t gonna lower-- - And I was on the same page 868 00:29:26,737 --> 00:29:28,879 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hat that point. Like, we was like, we’re done. 869 00:29:28,879 --> 00:29:30,044 {\an7}\h\h\h\hLike-- - And--and Bar, 870 00:29:30,044 --> 00:29:32,572 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hyou looked like you really understood... 871 00:29:32,572 --> 00:29:34,242 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I did. - What she was saying. 872 00:29:34,242 --> 00:29:38,737 {\an7}So to see where you both \hare today, it’s great. 873 00:29:38,737 --> 00:29:39,539 {\an7}It’s really amazing. 874 00:29:39,539 --> 00:29:40,978 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- Thank you. - Great job. For sure. 875 00:29:40,978 --> 00:29:43,143 {\an7}Well, Ashley, Bar, and Tea, \h\h\h\h\hthank you so much 876 00:29:43,143 --> 00:29:45,506 {\an7}for being so open and candid \h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith us today. 877 00:29:45,506 --> 00:29:48,308 {\an7}We gotta take a quick break, \h\hand we’ll be right back. 878 00:29:48,308 --> 00:29:51,440 {\an7}[cheers and applause] 879 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,539 {\an7}♪ ♪ 880 00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:58,784 {\an7}[cheers and applause] 881 00:29:58,784 --> 00:30:00,784 {\an7}- And we have another \h\hfirst-time guest 882 00:30:00,784 --> 00:30:03,685 {\an7}on a reunion show: \hBar’s mom, Shen. 883 00:30:03,685 --> 00:30:06,619 {\an7}[cheers and applause] \h\h\h\h- Oh, Jesus. 884 00:30:06,619 --> 00:30:07,992 {\an7}- So listen, um, 885 00:30:07,992 --> 00:30:09,355 {\an7}\h\h\hI got to know you a little bit backstage. 886 00:30:09,355 --> 00:30:11,256 {\an7}It is such a privilege \h\hto get to know you 887 00:30:11,256 --> 00:30:14,058 {\an7}\hand look you in the eye and find out who you are. 888 00:30:14,058 --> 00:30:16,784 {\an7}What do you want people \h\hto know about you? 889 00:30:16,784 --> 00:30:19,355 {\an7}- I--I don’t-- 890 00:30:19,355 --> 00:30:20,454 {\an7}I need a minute. 891 00:30:20,454 --> 00:30:21,421 {\an7}I-I-I need a minute. 892 00:30:21,421 --> 00:30:22,685 {\an7}- No, no, no, no, no, no, no-- \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I can’t. 893 00:30:22,685 --> 00:30:25,784 {\an7}\h\h- Shen, please. - I need a minute. 894 00:30:25,784 --> 00:30:27,751 {\an7}Where do I get out of here? 895 00:30:27,751 --> 00:30:29,388 {\an7}I need a minute. I need a minute. 896 00:30:29,388 --> 00:30:30,718 {\an7}Where’s my kid? 897 00:30:30,718 --> 00:30:32,619 {\an7}I need a minute. 898 00:30:37,058 --> 00:30:37,751 {\an7}- Let’s be clear. 899 00:30:37,751 --> 00:30:39,388 {\an7}\hI didn’t do this ’cause I wanted to. 900 00:30:39,388 --> 00:30:41,388 {\an7}- I know you didn’t. I know. \h\h\h\h\h- My kid begged me 901 00:30:41,388 --> 00:30:42,256 {\an7}for two weeks to do it. 902 00:30:42,256 --> 00:30:44,751 {\an7}\h\h\hI was against it. - I know. But I think-- 903 00:30:47,322 --> 00:30:49,992 {\an7}- They were supposed \hto be here with me. 904 00:30:49,992 --> 00:30:51,718 {\an7}We’ve been good. I babysit. 905 00:30:51,718 --> 00:30:53,487 {\an7}\h\h\h\hThey call me. We talk on the phone. 906 00:30:53,487 --> 00:30:55,619 {\an7}We’ve gone shopping, \h\h\hand now, today, 907 00:30:55,619 --> 00:30:57,190 {\an7}there’s a problem for filming? 908 00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:58,421 {\an7}- One minute. 909 00:30:58,421 --> 00:30:59,992 {\an7}- Keep walking. 910 00:31:02,025 --> 00:31:04,157 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- Okay. - [indistinct] 911 00:31:04,157 --> 00:31:05,959 {\an7}[somber music] 912 00:31:05,959 --> 00:31:07,025 {\an7}- Are you okay? \h- I’m sorry. 913 00:31:07,025 --> 00:31:09,223 {\an7}\h\h\h\hI needed a minute. - Let me ask you something. 914 00:31:09,223 --> 00:31:10,784 {\an7}Did I say something to-- \h\h\h\h- No, you didn’t. 915 00:31:10,784 --> 00:31:12,223 {\an7}- Okay. Are you cool? \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- I am. 916 00:31:12,223 --> 00:31:13,718 {\an7}- Okay. Come on. We wanna-- \h- This is so much deeper 917 00:31:13,718 --> 00:31:15,784 {\an7}\h\hthan you could ever know. - You were alluding to that, 918 00:31:15,784 --> 00:31:17,817 {\an7}so I didn’t wanna even ask \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\habout that. 919 00:31:17,817 --> 00:31:19,619 {\an7}- I am so sorry, you guys. 920 00:31:19,619 --> 00:31:21,520 {\an7}- Shh. No, no, no, no, no, no. 921 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,454 {\an7}We’re just glad you’re back. 922 00:31:22,454 --> 00:31:24,322 {\an7}- You’re so pretty. \h\h\h\h- [laughs] 923 00:31:24,322 --> 00:31:26,421 {\an7}- Thank you. Thank you. 924 00:31:26,421 --> 00:31:27,751 {\an7}You’re fine. Take your time. \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay. 925 00:31:27,751 --> 00:31:30,091 {\an7}- We’re here for you. \h\h\h\h- Take. Cut. 926 00:31:30,091 --> 00:31:32,992 {\an7}Let’s start again, guys. \h\h\h\h\h\h[both laugh] 927 00:31:32,992 --> 00:31:34,553 {\an7}- Happily. 928 00:31:34,553 --> 00:31:36,926 {\an7}\h\h\hI’m sorry you’re anxious. I’m sorry you’re uncomfortable. 929 00:31:36,926 --> 00:31:39,091 {\an7}\h- Well, I felt like everything was okay. 930 00:31:39,091 --> 00:31:39,959 {\an7}Everything’s been fine. 931 00:31:39,959 --> 00:31:42,959 {\an7}\h\h\hAnd then all of a sudden, somebody pretended an argument 932 00:31:42,959 --> 00:31:43,959 {\an7}and my son left me here. 933 00:31:43,959 --> 00:31:45,157 {\an7}He’s supposed to be here \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwith me. 934 00:31:45,157 --> 00:31:48,091 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- He--he was. That was supposed to happen. 935 00:31:48,091 --> 00:31:49,058 {\an7}And you had said 936 00:31:49,058 --> 00:31:50,860 {\an7}that that happens once in a while. 937 00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:52,355 {\an7}- That happens all the time. 938 00:31:52,355 --> 00:31:55,553 {\an7}- That he abandons you \hor lets you down or-- 939 00:31:55,553 --> 00:31:56,388 {\an7}- That he pretends 940 00:31:56,388 --> 00:31:58,388 {\an7}that there’s drama when there’s not. 941 00:31:58,388 --> 00:32:01,256 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- I noticed the effusive affection 942 00:32:01,256 --> 00:32:03,926 {\an7}and love you have for him \hwhen you guys are cool. 943 00:32:03,926 --> 00:32:07,751 {\an7}\h\h\hSo it must be extra crazy-feeling and painful. 944 00:32:07,751 --> 00:32:09,091 {\an7}- I’ll tell you, with me, 945 00:32:09,091 --> 00:32:10,926 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI came from a very tough background. 946 00:32:10,926 --> 00:32:13,520 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h- What happened? - I was abused as a child. 947 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,817 {\an7}I was doing my own laundry \h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hat seven. 948 00:32:15,817 --> 00:32:17,751 {\an7}I was raped, kidnapped, \h\h\h\h\hand molested 949 00:32:17,751 --> 00:32:21,157 {\an7}\h\h\h\hall before I was 18, so I turned into a nurturer. 950 00:32:21,157 --> 00:32:25,091 {\an7}\h\h\h\hAnd I feel like I was so overprotective 951 00:32:25,091 --> 00:32:26,784 {\an7}and loving to my children 952 00:32:26,784 --> 00:32:31,454 {\an7}that now, they’re used to me being superwoman. 953 00:32:31,454 --> 00:32:33,992 {\an7}They think I can handle \hthe hurt they cause. 954 00:32:33,992 --> 00:32:36,355 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hBar thinks that I can handle this. 955 00:32:36,355 --> 00:32:37,718 {\an7}And he doesn’t understand, 956 00:32:37,718 --> 00:32:41,718 {\an7}\h\hnothing in this world will break me, Dr. Drew, 957 00:32:41,718 --> 00:32:42,388 {\an7}but my children. 958 00:32:42,388 --> 00:32:45,091 {\an7}\h- So I’m hearing that Bar may be willing to come out. 959 00:32:45,091 --> 00:32:47,025 {\an7}He’s not been listening \h\hto this interview. 960 00:32:47,025 --> 00:32:47,893 {\an7}Are you cool with that? 961 00:32:47,893 --> 00:32:49,619 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Yeah, I thought that was the plan 962 00:32:49,619 --> 00:32:50,421 {\an7}from the beginning. 963 00:32:50,421 --> 00:32:51,487 {\an7}- Well, me too. \h[both laugh] 964 00:32:51,487 --> 00:32:54,058 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hBut I--I--I-- - Which is why I felt betrayed. 965 00:32:54,058 --> 00:32:54,959 {\an7}Like, I’m out here alone. 966 00:32:54,959 --> 00:32:57,190 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- I think he’s coming, and I’m delighted to see that. 967 00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:59,959 {\an7}So, Bar, if you’re available, \h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou’re willing, 968 00:32:59,959 --> 00:33:01,926 {\an7}come on out here and join us. 969 00:33:01,926 --> 00:33:03,487 {\an7}[applause] 970 00:33:03,487 --> 00:33:04,685 {\an7}- I ain’t even gonna lie-- 971 00:33:04,685 --> 00:33:06,322 {\an7}I know I’m not supposed \h\h\h\h\hto say this. 972 00:33:06,322 --> 00:33:08,091 {\an7}They’re gonna have \h\h\hto bleep it-- 973 00:33:08,091 --> 00:33:08,860 {\an7}but your fine ass. 974 00:33:08,860 --> 00:33:10,388 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- [laughs] - Can I have a hug? 975 00:33:10,388 --> 00:33:11,926 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- Guess so, Mama. - ’Cause you sure didn’t 976 00:33:11,926 --> 00:33:12,926 {\an7}speak to me this morning. 977 00:33:12,926 --> 00:33:13,817 {\an7}Can I borrow your jacket? 978 00:33:13,817 --> 00:33:15,124 {\an7}\h\hThat’s hella cute. - Yeah, you can have it 979 00:33:15,124 --> 00:33:16,322 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hwhen we done. What y’all got going on? 980 00:33:16,322 --> 00:33:17,718 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWhat’s up? - We have gotten to know 981 00:33:17,718 --> 00:33:19,817 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyour mom, and what I have learned, 982 00:33:19,817 --> 00:33:23,784 {\an7}\h\h\huh, is that you have a tremendous impact on her. 983 00:33:23,784 --> 00:33:25,025 {\an7}\h\h\h- I think it got something to do with-- 984 00:33:25,025 --> 00:33:26,751 {\an7}\h\h\hwe’ve been through a lot of stuff together. 985 00:33:26,751 --> 00:33:28,091 {\an7}\h\h\h\h- One of the thing people are gonna wonder is 986 00:33:28,091 --> 00:33:29,817 {\an7}why you weren’t here and what \h\h\hmade you come back out. 987 00:33:29,817 --> 00:33:32,058 {\an7}- The reason I wasn’t here \h\his because the reunions 988 00:33:32,058 --> 00:33:35,619 {\an7}\hare always very high-strung emotions and stuff like that. 989 00:33:35,619 --> 00:33:36,322 {\an7}- Yeah. Okay. 990 00:33:36,322 --> 00:33:38,553 {\an7}- So I just was trying \h\h\h\h\hto figure out 991 00:33:38,553 --> 00:33:40,817 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\hbasically how to make the situation easier yesterday, 992 00:33:40,817 --> 00:33:42,553 {\an7}\h\hand I got frustrated in the process of trying 993 00:33:42,553 --> 00:33:43,992 {\an7}to do all that, so... \h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Okay. 994 00:33:43,992 --> 00:33:45,256 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h- End result, me and her kinda ended up 995 00:33:45,256 --> 00:33:47,784 {\an7}in a little discrepancy, but it \hwas just a miscommunication. 996 00:33:47,784 --> 00:33:50,553 {\an7}- Got it, and what you led you \h\h\h\h\hcoming now out here? 997 00:33:50,553 --> 00:33:52,520 {\an7}- ’Cause I don’t want my mama \hto be out here by herself. 998 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,652 {\an7}I don’t want her to feel like \h\h\h\h\hshe out here alone. 999 00:33:54,652 --> 00:33:55,421 {\an7}That’s shady. 1000 00:33:55,421 --> 00:33:57,322 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\hHer first reunion and she gotta talk to y’all. 1001 00:33:57,322 --> 00:34:00,058 {\an7}Y’all great people, but, like, \h\h\hyou know, it’s pressure. 1002 00:34:00,058 --> 00:34:00,652 {\an7}- Yeah. 1003 00:34:00,652 --> 00:34:02,454 {\an7}And Shen, and you and Tea \h\h\h\hare talking now, 1004 00:34:02,454 --> 00:34:03,817 {\an7}so we can say-- \h\h\h\h- Yeah. 1005 00:34:03,817 --> 00:34:05,091 {\an7}- And one of the things \h\h\h\hI’m taking away 1006 00:34:05,091 --> 00:34:07,487 {\an7}is that we need--you wanna \hget all on the same page 1007 00:34:07,487 --> 00:34:08,586 {\an7}all together all at once. 1008 00:34:08,586 --> 00:34:10,091 {\an7}- Yeah. Why not? \h- And that’s-- 1009 00:34:10,091 --> 00:34:10,992 {\an7}- Yeah, I mean, of course. 1010 00:34:10,992 --> 00:34:12,992 {\an7}That’s the ultimate goal \hat the end of all of it 1011 00:34:12,992 --> 00:34:13,959 {\an7}is for it to be one family. 1012 00:34:13,959 --> 00:34:16,322 {\an7}What my thing is, is the smoothness 1013 00:34:16,322 --> 00:34:20,190 {\an7}\hor the way stuff is heading and how it’s been happening, 1014 00:34:20,190 --> 00:34:21,520 {\an7}\hyou know, it’s-- you can’t rush it. 1015 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,893 {\an7}\hEvery time I’ve tried to rush [bleep] in the past six years, 1016 00:34:24,893 --> 00:34:27,322 {\an7}it’s utterly failed completely. 1017 00:34:27,322 --> 00:34:29,454 {\an7}People started talking \hon their own accord. 1018 00:34:29,454 --> 00:34:31,256 {\an7}I didn’t have nothing \h\h\hto do with it. 1019 00:34:31,256 --> 00:34:32,718 {\an7}You gotta let time \htake its course. 1020 00:34:32,718 --> 00:34:34,190 {\an7}\h\h\h- I understand. It was great getting 1021 00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:35,256 {\an7}to know your mom. \hIt really was. 1022 00:34:35,256 --> 00:34:36,652 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h- Right, y’all finally get to see her. 1023 00:34:36,652 --> 00:34:38,322 {\an7}- She’s great. \h\h[laughter] 1024 00:34:38,322 --> 00:34:41,718 {\an7}\h\h\h\h\h\h\hSo we’ll be back with more "Teen Mom 2" reunion 1025 00:34:41,718 --> 00:34:43,157 {\an7}right after the break. 1026 00:34:43,157 --> 00:34:46,223 {\an7}[cheers and applause] 1027 00:34:46,223 --> 00:34:49,553 {\an7}[upbeat music] 1028 00:34:50,889 --> 00:34:52,090 [cheers and applause] 1029 00:34:52,157 --> 00:34:54,926 [upbeat music] 1030 00:34:54,993 --> 00:34:55,927 - Welcome back. 1031 00:34:55,994 --> 00:34:57,128 We are talking to Briana, 1032 00:34:57,195 --> 00:34:58,496 and she's joined by Devoin 1033 00:34:58,563 --> 00:35:01,132 and, for the first time on the reunion stage, 1034 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:02,167 Luis. 1035 00:35:02,233 --> 00:35:03,735 [applause] 1036 00:35:03,802 --> 00:35:05,236 Welcome to the show. 1037 00:35:05,303 --> 00:35:06,738 And how are you feeling so far? 1038 00:35:06,805 --> 00:35:09,007 The stage. Are we okay? - I'm a little, you know, 1039 00:35:09,073 --> 00:35:10,542 but it's all right. - A little-- 1040 00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:11,876 The lights and everything-- - There's lots of lights... 1041 00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:13,178 - I'm fine. - And cameras. 1042 00:35:13,244 --> 00:35:14,279 - I'm okay. 1043 00:35:14,345 --> 00:35:15,580 - There are a few other things 1044 00:35:15,647 --> 00:35:17,048 that happened at "Family Reunion" 1045 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:20,518 that we wanna touch on, so we brought back Coach B. 1046 00:35:20,585 --> 00:35:22,187 [cheering] And hopefully she can also 1047 00:35:22,253 --> 00:35:25,490 shed some insight on Briana and Luis' issues. 1048 00:35:25,557 --> 00:35:27,759 Please welcome back Coach B. 1049 00:35:27,826 --> 00:35:28,760 [cheers and applause] 1050 00:35:28,827 --> 00:35:30,095 - Hello. 1051 00:35:30,161 --> 00:35:31,262 Hello, guys. - Welcome. 1052 00:35:31,329 --> 00:35:32,764 - Hi. - Hello, hello. Thank you. 1053 00:35:32,831 --> 00:35:37,368 Um, so I just know that, uh, Luis-- 1054 00:35:37,435 --> 00:35:38,803 - Hi. - We haven't seen you. 1055 00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:40,105 My first time. 1056 00:35:40,171 --> 00:35:41,239 - How you doing? - How you doing? 1057 00:35:41,306 --> 00:35:42,240 - Good. - I don't wanna 1058 00:35:42,307 --> 00:35:43,741 pick on you yet. - [laughs] 1059 00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:45,376 - If that's okay with you. - That's fine. 1060 00:35:45,443 --> 00:35:48,480 - But I do want to kinda talk about, 1061 00:35:48,546 --> 00:35:51,516 um, Devoin, you and Briana's communication. 1062 00:35:51,583 --> 00:35:53,151 - I'm so glad I got to see you today. 1063 00:35:53,218 --> 00:35:54,586 - [laughs] - 'Cause I was like, damn, 1064 00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:56,688 I gotta see her next season for "Family Reunion," 1065 00:35:56,755 --> 00:35:58,123 and I can't go that long. 1066 00:35:58,189 --> 00:36:00,125 But, um, we were doing good. 1067 00:36:00,191 --> 00:36:02,761 After family therapy, everything was going well. 1068 00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:04,896 You know, I still want both of them to be consistent. 1069 00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:06,131 I still want them to help... - Yeah. 1070 00:36:06,197 --> 00:36:07,265 - As much as they can. 1071 00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:08,700 I still want all these things, 1072 00:36:08,767 --> 00:36:11,402 but I'm not, like, hounding on them. 1073 00:36:11,469 --> 00:36:13,271 I'm just more like, okay, they know 1074 00:36:13,338 --> 00:36:15,006 what I want from them 1075 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:17,308 and they know what the girls need from them, 1076 00:36:17,375 --> 00:36:19,644 so hopefully it'll happen. 1077 00:36:19,711 --> 00:36:22,547 - And so that kinda leads me into, you know, 1078 00:36:22,614 --> 00:36:27,152 how you all, you know, plan to blend as a family. 1079 00:36:27,218 --> 00:36:28,419 What do you think that looks like? 1080 00:36:28,486 --> 00:36:30,221 What do you think co-parenting 1081 00:36:30,288 --> 00:36:32,891 with a blended family like you guys 1082 00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:35,160 looks like for you? 1083 00:36:35,226 --> 00:36:37,295 - I guess just communicating with each other 1084 00:36:37,362 --> 00:36:40,064 and being open to certain things. 1085 00:36:40,131 --> 00:36:42,333 - I heard you say your father's a truck driver. 1086 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,402 What is your guys' relationship like when you were a kiddo? 1087 00:36:44,469 --> 00:36:45,437 - It's always been good. 1088 00:36:45,503 --> 00:36:47,105 - What's good? - Uh, open. 1089 00:36:47,172 --> 00:36:48,640 He's always been there. 1090 00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:50,108 - What are some of the things he's done that 1091 00:36:50,175 --> 00:36:52,110 maybe you would've done different? 1092 00:36:52,177 --> 00:36:54,279 - If I'm being real, I would say 1093 00:36:54,345 --> 00:36:55,980 that I would be more like him. 1094 00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:57,382 - And what is being more like him? 1095 00:36:57,449 --> 00:36:58,616 What does that look like? - Always present. 1096 00:36:58,683 --> 00:37:01,085 Always talking. Always communicating. 1097 00:37:01,152 --> 00:37:02,754 Always letting me know that he's there. 1098 00:37:02,821 --> 00:37:04,389 - Yeah. - So... 1099 00:37:04,456 --> 00:37:05,657 - So then I have to ask, 1100 00:37:05,723 --> 00:37:07,992 where did-- where is the disconnect at? 1101 00:37:08,026 --> 00:37:10,361 Because--I'm gonna appropriately confront you-- 1102 00:37:10,428 --> 00:37:12,997 you said you would have done it just like Dad did it, 1103 00:37:13,064 --> 00:37:15,700 but you did it the opposite of how Dad did it. 1104 00:37:15,767 --> 00:37:17,502 - Yeah. - So where-- 1105 00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:19,471 there is a disparity there. 1106 00:37:19,537 --> 00:37:21,005 Where is that disparity? 1107 00:37:21,005 --> 00:37:22,674 - I really can't point a finger to it. 1108 00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:25,276 Like, I wish I knew. 1109 00:37:25,343 --> 00:37:26,711 - Okay. Well, I'ma tell you. 1110 00:37:26,778 --> 00:37:29,581 Because you have disconnected from emotion. 1111 00:37:29,647 --> 00:37:31,816 Like many of them have. 1112 00:37:31,883 --> 00:37:33,084 You don't have a good relationship 1113 00:37:33,151 --> 00:37:35,320 with feeling, so you can't articulate it 1114 00:37:35,386 --> 00:37:36,821 'cause you can't feel it. 1115 00:37:36,888 --> 00:37:39,390 Do you know why you can't feel it? 1116 00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:40,825 - No. - Because somewhere 1117 00:37:40,892 --> 00:37:43,328 at some point, whether you were in denial 1118 00:37:43,394 --> 00:37:46,030 or not, um, your heart as well, 1119 00:37:46,064 --> 00:37:48,833 like you've done with Stella, was broken. 1120 00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:51,002 - I see Briana's reacting to everything you're saying 1121 00:37:51,069 --> 00:37:52,971 'cause it's some of your stuff too, right? 1122 00:37:53,004 --> 00:37:54,205 - Yeah. 1123 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:55,974 - Devoin, is it yours also? 1124 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,109 - Yeah. I've been there. 1125 00:37:58,176 --> 00:37:59,844 - It was mine. 1126 00:37:59,978 --> 00:38:01,045 I had it too. 1127 00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:02,614 And I think you've talked about this before 1128 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,615 on this show. 1129 00:38:03,681 --> 00:38:04,816 These similar issues, right? 1130 00:38:04,883 --> 00:38:06,284 So I know this is deeply meaningful to you. 1131 00:38:06,351 --> 00:38:07,986 - Oh, yeah. I'm trying not to cry. 1132 00:38:08,019 --> 00:38:09,187 - Yeah, I could tell, 1133 00:38:09,254 --> 00:38:10,822 so tell me--tell us your part of this. 1134 00:38:10,889 --> 00:38:13,091 - Yeah, um, you know, I didn't grow up 1135 00:38:13,158 --> 00:38:15,393 in the most functional household. 1136 00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:17,262 My mom and my dad split. 1137 00:38:17,328 --> 00:38:20,098 Um, my dad left me behind, you know. 1138 00:38:20,165 --> 00:38:21,666 I had him throughout my childhood, 1139 00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:23,368 and then when I got pregnant at 16, 1140 00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:24,869 he just disappeared. 1141 00:38:25,003 --> 00:38:28,206 And that broke me. Like, oh, my God. 1142 00:38:28,273 --> 00:38:29,741 [clears throat] That was hard, 1143 00:38:29,808 --> 00:38:31,176 and it's still hard still to this day. 1144 00:38:31,242 --> 00:38:33,545 I'm 27 years old, and... - Yeah. 1145 00:38:33,611 --> 00:38:35,547 - I think about my dad every day. 1146 00:38:35,613 --> 00:38:37,749 I went to New York, um, 1147 00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:40,552 a few weeks ago and I found his address. 1148 00:38:40,618 --> 00:38:44,255 And I showed up, um... 1149 00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,558 and... 1150 00:38:46,624 --> 00:38:48,026 he didn't wanna see me. 1151 00:38:48,059 --> 00:38:50,061 That was hard. 1152 00:38:50,128 --> 00:38:51,963 Hard. 1153 00:38:52,030 --> 00:38:56,601 I don't want Stella or Nova to feel how I feel. 1154 00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:58,436 And I feel like if they continue 1155 00:38:58,503 --> 00:38:59,804 to do what they're doing, 1156 00:38:59,871 --> 00:39:02,173 they're gonna end up like me. 1157 00:39:04,142 --> 00:39:07,011 - Right, and so this is the... - [cries] 1158 00:39:07,078 --> 00:39:09,814 - Pathology that goes on and on. 1159 00:39:09,881 --> 00:39:12,050 Her father abandoned her. 1160 00:39:12,117 --> 00:39:15,253 She chooses a man or men who-- 1161 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,454 - Do the same thing. - Do the same thing 1162 00:39:16,521 --> 00:39:18,990 to her daughter. - Or something similar. 1163 00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:20,091 - What does that mean? 1164 00:39:20,158 --> 00:39:22,393 It just means that you guys have 1165 00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:27,165 to be the change advocates to change and disrupt 1166 00:39:27,232 --> 00:39:30,869 the dysfunctional pattern so your daughters don't grow up 1167 00:39:31,002 --> 00:39:36,307 to choose men who abandon them and their kids. 1168 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:37,642 - Yeah. - And my hope 1169 00:39:37,709 --> 00:39:39,911 is that by her being so emotionally vulnerable 1170 00:39:40,011 --> 00:39:41,780 and telling this story, you guys get the message 1171 00:39:41,846 --> 00:39:43,448 that you do not want your kids 1172 00:39:43,515 --> 00:39:44,649 feeling like this when they're 30. 1173 00:39:44,716 --> 00:39:46,084 - I mean, this is so painful to see. 1174 00:39:46,151 --> 00:39:47,752 - This is why we're spending all this energy. 1175 00:39:47,819 --> 00:39:49,687 - That's not an option on this side. 1176 00:39:49,754 --> 00:39:50,822 - Huh? - Said that's not an option 1177 00:39:50,955 --> 00:39:52,357 on this side. 1178 00:39:52,424 --> 00:39:55,827 I mean, Nova's not gonna be feeling like that at 27, no. 1179 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,996 - Yeah. Briana, you okay? 1180 00:39:58,062 --> 00:39:59,197 - I'm okay. 1181 00:39:59,264 --> 00:40:00,331 - I'm gonna sit with you. 1182 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:01,332 Come on. Let's sit. 1183 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:02,967 [laughs] - Okay. Perfect. 1184 00:40:02,967 --> 00:40:04,068 Perfect. 1185 00:40:04,135 --> 00:40:05,537 Well, thank you, Coach B, really. 1186 00:40:05,603 --> 00:40:08,306 And, uh, of course we are-- have deep hopes 1187 00:40:08,373 --> 00:40:10,542 that they will continue to build a stronger family. 1188 00:40:10,608 --> 00:40:11,976 - Absolutely. 1189 00:40:12,043 --> 00:40:13,978 And that's all for the "Teen Mom 2" reunion. 1190 00:40:14,045 --> 00:40:15,814 Thanks again to the entire cast and crew 1191 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,682 for another unforgettable season. 1192 00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:20,318 - Remember, young people who have sex without protection 1193 00:40:20,385 --> 00:40:23,855 on a regular basis have an 85% chance of pregnancy 1194 00:40:23,988 --> 00:40:25,557 within a year. 1195 00:40:25,623 --> 00:40:26,891 Birth control gives you the power 1196 00:40:26,991 --> 00:40:28,526 to decide your future. 1197 00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:32,397 Find the method that is right for you at bedsider.org. 1198 00:40:32,464 --> 00:40:35,066 For Nessa and for myself, we'll see you next time 1199 00:40:35,133 --> 00:40:36,768 on the "Teen Mom 2" reunion. 1200 00:40:36,835 --> 00:40:39,771 [cheers and applause] 1201 00:40:39,838 --> 00:40:42,774 [upbeat music] 1202 00:40:42,841 --> 00:40:49,948 ♪ ♪