1 00:00:03,307 --> 00:00:05,440 your efforts. I adore you. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,615 Don'’t get me wrong, I do. 3 00:00:06,615 --> 00:00:09,096 But I want to be able to see and feel 4 00:00:09,096 --> 00:00:10,401 a future in a relationship. 5 00:00:10,401 --> 00:00:11,620 Take it outside?Wait. 6 00:00:11,620 --> 00:00:12,969 Are you two sleeping together? 7 00:00:12,969 --> 00:00:14,231 He'’d like to.No, I wouldn'’t. 8 00:00:14,231 --> 00:00:15,537 Yes, you would.No, I wouldn'’t. 9 00:00:15,537 --> 00:00:16,886 He'’s gonna be joining. 10 00:00:16,886 --> 00:00:18,105 Ollie Richard is joining this firm? 11 00:00:18,105 --> 00:00:20,237 Take it outside? 12 00:00:20,237 --> 00:00:22,674 Thrilled? Beyond. 13 00:00:23,980 --> 00:00:25,373 [line ringing, gunshots, crowd screaming] 14 00:00:25,373 --> 00:00:26,809 MAN: 911. What'’s your emergency? 15 00:00:26,809 --> 00:00:29,551 WOMAN: I'’m calling from Ogilvie. 16 00:00:29,551 --> 00:00:30,682 There'’s a man with a gun 17 00:00:30,682 --> 00:00:31,814 and he'’s shooting people! 18 00:00:31,814 --> 00:00:33,076 MAN: Okay. Is anyone hurt? 19 00:00:33,076 --> 00:00:35,078 WOMAN: Oh, God. Oh, God! Oh, God! 20 00:00:35,078 --> 00:00:36,688 MAN: Ma'’am, I need you to calm down. 21 00:00:36,688 --> 00:00:38,734 WOMAN: Oh, my God, he'’s killing everyone! 22 00:00:38,734 --> 00:00:39,952 We'’re all gonna die! 23 00:00:39,952 --> 00:00:41,041 [crowd screaming] 24 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:46,524 The video doesn'’t lie. 25 00:00:46,524 --> 00:00:51,529 The defendant, Matthew Gayles, is a cold-blooded killer. 26 00:00:51,529 --> 00:00:54,880 When Matthew Gayles walked onto the campus of Ogilvie University 27 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,449 and killed Adrian Shaw, Patrick Wills and Emerson Casey, 28 00:00:58,449 --> 00:01:01,974 and left Janice Carroll choking on her own blood, 29 00:01:01,974 --> 00:01:04,499 he knew it was wrong; he just didn'’t care. 30 00:01:04,499 --> 00:01:07,937 He wasn'’t suffering from any mental disease or defect, 31 00:01:07,937 --> 00:01:11,375 he simply wanted revenge. 32 00:01:11,375 --> 00:01:13,899 But don'’t believe me. 33 00:01:13,899 --> 00:01:15,466 Believe the defendant. 34 00:01:15,466 --> 00:01:19,079 In his own words-- and I quote-- "I'’m not crazy. 35 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:22,343 They all deserved to die." 36 00:01:36,139 --> 00:01:38,707 Okay. 37 00:01:38,707 --> 00:01:40,317 Let'’s be clear. 38 00:01:40,317 --> 00:01:44,060 If your verdict is based solely on the emotion 39 00:01:44,060 --> 00:01:46,889 evoked by this case, Matthew Gayles will either 40 00:01:46,889 --> 00:01:49,892 die by lethal injection or spend the rest of his life in prison. 41 00:01:49,892 --> 00:01:52,677 There'’s no way around it, he pulled the trigger. 42 00:01:52,677 --> 00:01:55,506 He killed three people, he wounded a fourth. 43 00:01:55,506 --> 00:01:58,248 But the law is equally clear. 44 00:01:58,248 --> 00:01:59,728 If, at the time he committed this act, 45 00:01:59,728 --> 00:02:01,077 he was suffering from a mental defect 46 00:02:01,077 --> 00:02:02,557 that prevented him from knowing 47 00:02:02,557 --> 00:02:07,083 it was wrong, we cannot hold him accountable. 48 00:02:07,083 --> 00:02:08,911 Now, Ms. Kepler, as is her prerogative, 49 00:02:08,911 --> 00:02:10,695 neglected a few details. 50 00:02:10,695 --> 00:02:12,306 First, at the time of the shooting, 51 00:02:12,306 --> 00:02:14,308 Matthew had undiagnosed schizophrenia. 52 00:02:14,308 --> 00:02:16,266 And second, he doesn'’t remember 53 00:02:16,266 --> 00:02:18,834 any of that day because he was in what psychiatrists will call 54 00:02:18,834 --> 00:02:22,054 a floridly psychotic state brought on by this. 55 00:02:26,755 --> 00:02:30,106 This is Brian Gayles, Matthew'’s older brother. 56 00:02:30,106 --> 00:02:31,847 After a drunk driver killed their parents, 57 00:02:31,847 --> 00:02:34,284 the boys were sent to separate foster homes. 58 00:02:34,284 --> 00:02:36,156 When Brian was old enough, he adopted Matthew. 59 00:02:36,156 --> 00:02:38,332 See, Brian was more than an older brother, 60 00:02:38,332 --> 00:02:42,336 he was Matthew'’s mother, his father, his entire world. 61 00:02:47,036 --> 00:02:51,040 Until he was hazed to death by Adrian Shaw, Patrick Wills 62 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,564 and Emerson Casey, the victims in this case. 63 00:02:53,564 --> 00:02:56,915 As part of joining a fraternity, he was forced to drink, 64 00:02:56,915 --> 00:02:59,179 he subject to waterboarding with alcohol. 65 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:00,876 He died of alcohol poisoning. 66 00:03:00,876 --> 00:03:04,314 Now, please understand, we are not blaming the victims 67 00:03:04,314 --> 00:03:05,968 as strategy. 68 00:03:05,968 --> 00:03:08,013 What we'’re saying is that because of his sickness, 69 00:03:08,013 --> 00:03:10,712 Matthew Gayles is not guilty. 70 00:03:10,712 --> 00:03:14,498 And the way his brother died exacerbated that sickness. 71 00:03:16,587 --> 00:03:18,937 I do not envy you sitting in those 12 seats. 72 00:03:18,937 --> 00:03:22,680 This is a difficult case. 73 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,597 But the question before you is simple. 74 00:03:26,597 --> 00:03:30,079 When Matthew Gayles pulled that trigger, was he a complete, 75 00:03:30,079 --> 00:03:34,605 sane, functioning, aware human being 76 00:03:34,605 --> 00:03:37,695 or a sick young man? 77 00:03:39,828 --> 00:03:41,612 How did the openings go? 78 00:03:41,612 --> 00:03:44,006 Um, fine. 79 00:03:44,006 --> 00:03:46,313 Excuse me?Excuse me? 80 00:03:46,313 --> 00:03:47,662 What was the "um" about? 81 00:03:47,662 --> 00:03:48,663 Do you have a problem or...? 82 00:03:48,663 --> 00:03:50,273 I said "fine." 83 00:03:50,273 --> 00:03:52,623 Qualified with "um." I heard you. 84 00:03:52,623 --> 00:03:54,321 If you have a note, would love to hear it. 85 00:03:54,321 --> 00:03:55,757 I aim to better myself. 86 00:03:55,757 --> 00:03:57,237 Okay. 87 00:03:57,237 --> 00:03:58,803 It left me a little cold. 88 00:03:58,803 --> 00:04:00,762 My concern is it'’ll leave the jury cold. 89 00:04:00,762 --> 00:04:02,546 Yeah, my opening didn'’t leave you cold, 90 00:04:02,546 --> 00:04:04,983 you walked into the room cold, as you walk through life. 91 00:04:04,983 --> 00:04:06,550 Ollie, that was unnecessary. 92 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:08,204 She just pissed all over my opening. You heard her. 93 00:04:08,204 --> 00:04:10,206 She said "um."It was a calculated "um," 94 00:04:10,206 --> 00:04:12,121 and you know it.Maybe you can take her outside. 95 00:04:12,121 --> 00:04:13,427 Okay, you know what?Ollie. 96 00:04:13,427 --> 00:04:14,645 I'’m in the middle of a trial here. 97 00:04:14,645 --> 00:04:15,820 I don'’t need his bull, 98 00:04:15,820 --> 00:04:17,213 and I especially don'’t need hers. 99 00:04:17,213 --> 00:04:18,997 You'’re second chair.I said "um." 100 00:04:18,997 --> 00:04:21,086 Ollie, could you come in my office, please? No! 101 00:04:21,086 --> 00:04:22,218 You just want to handle me. 102 00:04:22,218 --> 00:04:23,263 Consider it done. 103 00:04:23,263 --> 00:04:24,916 I'’m handled. 104 00:04:24,916 --> 00:04:26,309 Let'’s go. 105 00:04:26,309 --> 00:04:27,876 We'’re due back in, um,court. 106 00:04:31,009 --> 00:04:33,098 Look, I know I'’ve asked this before, 107 00:04:33,098 --> 00:04:35,318 but are you sure you two aren'’t sleeping together? 108 00:04:35,318 --> 00:04:37,146 I think I'’d remember. 109 00:04:37,146 --> 00:04:38,669 Maybe not. 110 00:04:38,669 --> 00:04:40,192 Well, whatever your differences, 111 00:04:40,192 --> 00:04:42,194 I don'’t want them affecting this trial. 112 00:04:42,194 --> 00:04:45,633 If he can'’t be an adult, then the job falls to you. 113 00:04:55,469 --> 00:04:56,948 ADAM: It'’s called eminent domain. 114 00:04:56,948 --> 00:04:58,080 It'’s a legal action. 115 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,995 The government can take land to... 116 00:04:59,995 --> 00:05:01,910 for public welfare. 117 00:05:01,910 --> 00:05:03,520 They can just throw us out? 118 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,782 They have to give you just compensation. 119 00:05:04,782 --> 00:05:06,044 Here, they'’re taking 120 00:05:06,044 --> 00:05:09,831 four buildings for economic development. 121 00:05:09,831 --> 00:05:12,224 They'’re deeming the neighborhood a blighted area. 122 00:05:12,224 --> 00:05:14,009 This is part of the whole 123 00:05:14,009 --> 00:05:15,576 gentrification scheme. 124 00:05:15,576 --> 00:05:17,273 You can see what'’s happened on this block. 125 00:05:17,273 --> 00:05:19,231 But our business is doing fine. 126 00:05:21,233 --> 00:05:23,932 Let me look into it, okay? 127 00:05:23,932 --> 00:05:26,021 It'’s tough to fight these things, I'’ll be honest, 128 00:05:26,021 --> 00:05:29,024 but... let me look into it. 129 00:05:29,024 --> 00:05:30,547 WOMAN: It'’s indecent. 130 00:05:30,547 --> 00:05:33,550 Tell us what you find indecent, Ms. Harrington. 131 00:05:33,550 --> 00:05:37,032 Well, as I said, my mother was a very active environmentalist, 132 00:05:37,032 --> 00:05:38,729 as am I. 133 00:05:38,729 --> 00:05:42,864 I drive an electric car, I eat all organic, as did she. 134 00:05:42,864 --> 00:05:44,169 When she passed, I went to 135 00:05:44,169 --> 00:05:45,910 Mr. Miller'’s green mortuary 136 00:05:45,910 --> 00:05:48,870 to give her a green burial, which is what she wanted. 137 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:50,915 Okay, and, for the record, tell us exactly 138 00:05:50,915 --> 00:05:53,527 what you understand this "green burial" to mean. 139 00:05:53,527 --> 00:05:57,531 It means no casket, no headstone, no embalming. 140 00:05:57,531 --> 00:05:59,924 The body is returned to the earth as is-- 141 00:05:59,924 --> 00:06:01,622 dust to dust. 142 00:06:01,622 --> 00:06:03,232 It'’s very green, very natural. 143 00:06:03,232 --> 00:06:04,581 And did my client provide 144 00:06:04,581 --> 00:06:06,496 this green burial to your satisfaction? 145 00:06:06,496 --> 00:06:07,889 Yes, he did. 146 00:06:07,889 --> 00:06:10,282 And you'’re suing him just the same for fun? 147 00:06:10,282 --> 00:06:13,634 I'’m not suing for the burial, I'’m suing for the vegetables. 148 00:06:13,634 --> 00:06:15,200 Ah. I eat all organic 149 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,594 tomatoes every day, which I buy at a local market. 150 00:06:17,594 --> 00:06:21,293 Turns out, his market, his vegetables, 151 00:06:21,293 --> 00:06:23,687 fertilized with human remains. 152 00:06:23,687 --> 00:06:25,472 Which I did not know. 153 00:06:25,472 --> 00:06:26,516 Nobody knew. 154 00:06:26,516 --> 00:06:28,300 Basically, for the last year, 155 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:32,522 I'’ve been eating tomatoes fertilized with my mother. 156 00:06:34,437 --> 00:06:36,874 WOMAN: I don'’t remember hearing shots 157 00:06:36,874 --> 00:06:39,877 or feeling pain. 158 00:06:39,877 --> 00:06:44,404 Actually, I remember this warm sensation rush through me. 159 00:06:44,404 --> 00:06:47,885 The next thing I felt was my head hitting the ground. 160 00:06:47,885 --> 00:06:49,931 And somehow I knew. 161 00:06:49,931 --> 00:06:51,628 What did you know, Janice? 162 00:06:51,628 --> 00:06:56,590 I knew that I'’d never walk down the aisle at my wedding. 163 00:06:56,590 --> 00:06:59,375 I knew that I'’d never have children. 164 00:06:59,375 --> 00:07:02,900 I didn'’t know if I was dying, 165 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:06,730 but in that moment, I knew my life was over. 166 00:07:08,123 --> 00:07:11,082 When did you realize you were shot? 167 00:07:11,082 --> 00:07:12,954 A minute or so later, 168 00:07:12,954 --> 00:07:17,349 during the chaos, I saw the defendant walking toward me. 169 00:07:17,349 --> 00:07:19,482 He had a gun. 170 00:07:19,482 --> 00:07:21,876 I thought he was going to finish me off. 171 00:07:21,876 --> 00:07:23,094 KEPLER: But he didn'’t? 172 00:07:23,094 --> 00:07:24,574 JANICE: No. 173 00:07:24,574 --> 00:07:27,925 He knelt down beside me with this eerie calm 174 00:07:27,925 --> 00:07:30,101 in his eyes, and he said, 175 00:07:30,101 --> 00:07:32,147 "I'’m sorry. 176 00:07:32,147 --> 00:07:35,193 It wasn'’t you I was after." 177 00:07:35,193 --> 00:07:38,022 And he walked away. 178 00:07:38,022 --> 00:07:40,416 First of all, my sympathy for both this terrible tragedy 179 00:07:40,416 --> 00:07:42,462 and for having to relive it somewhat now. 180 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:44,638 Thank you. 181 00:07:44,638 --> 00:07:46,727 Have you ever met my client? 182 00:07:46,727 --> 00:07:48,293 Yes. 183 00:07:48,293 --> 00:07:51,601 Would you mind telling us how? 184 00:07:51,601 --> 00:07:53,385 Well, I certainly didn'’t know him 185 00:07:53,385 --> 00:07:55,431 during the time of the shooting, 186 00:07:55,431 --> 00:07:57,912 but I was having some trouble moving forward 187 00:07:57,912 --> 00:07:59,609 with life. 188 00:07:59,609 --> 00:08:01,263 My therapist thought it would be 189 00:08:01,263 --> 00:08:03,961 a good idea for me to confront the person responsible, 190 00:08:03,961 --> 00:08:05,528 so, I did. 191 00:08:05,528 --> 00:08:07,269 And you reached out to him? 192 00:08:07,269 --> 00:08:08,575 Yes. 193 00:08:08,575 --> 00:08:11,447 To... well, to find out why he shot me. 194 00:08:11,447 --> 00:08:14,102 I guess I needed to know. 195 00:08:14,102 --> 00:08:15,625 OLLIE: And what did he say? 196 00:08:15,625 --> 00:08:19,847 JANICE: Well, he conveyed his contrition. 197 00:08:19,847 --> 00:08:21,805 And he said he didn'’t remember the shooting 198 00:08:21,805 --> 00:08:24,329 or apologizing to me. 199 00:08:24,329 --> 00:08:26,114 Did you believe him? 200 00:08:26,114 --> 00:08:28,203 Yes. 201 00:08:28,203 --> 00:08:29,857 I did. 202 00:08:29,857 --> 00:08:31,075 Did he strike you as genuine? 203 00:08:31,075 --> 00:08:32,816 Yes. 204 00:08:32,816 --> 00:08:34,644 Thank you. 205 00:08:36,298 --> 00:08:38,605 If you don'’t mind, 206 00:08:38,605 --> 00:08:41,912 I'’d like you to take a look at this on the monitor. 207 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:45,742 REPORTER: Matthew, why'’d you do it? 208 00:08:45,742 --> 00:08:46,743 Are you crazy? 209 00:08:46,743 --> 00:08:47,831 I'’m not crazy. 210 00:08:47,831 --> 00:08:49,833 They all deserved to die. 211 00:08:49,833 --> 00:08:52,444 Does he strike you as being genuine there? 212 00:08:52,444 --> 00:08:55,360 Yes. 213 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,884 He does. 214 00:08:58,538 --> 00:09:00,452 [elevator bell dings] 215 00:09:03,325 --> 00:09:04,805 How did it go? 216 00:09:04,805 --> 00:09:06,415 All in all, pretty well, I thought. 217 00:09:06,415 --> 00:09:07,416 Okay. 218 00:09:07,416 --> 00:09:09,374 Okay, what? 219 00:09:09,374 --> 00:09:11,725 Okay, it went well. 220 00:09:14,510 --> 00:09:16,817 Oliver, what exactly went well? 221 00:09:16,817 --> 00:09:18,209 Her testimony was riveting. 222 00:09:18,209 --> 00:09:20,211 She was also sympathetic toward our client. 223 00:09:20,211 --> 00:09:21,735 Did you just not hear that? 224 00:09:21,735 --> 00:09:23,127 She admitted that he seemed contrite. 225 00:09:23,127 --> 00:09:24,389 That'’s not necessarily sympathetic. 226 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:25,347 In fact, she testified that 227 00:09:25,347 --> 00:09:26,348 with clarity of mind, 228 00:09:26,348 --> 00:09:27,523 he admitted his guilt. 229 00:09:27,523 --> 00:09:28,480 That doesn'’t exactly help us. 230 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,395 Okay. 231 00:09:30,395 --> 00:09:31,483 You'’re off this case. 232 00:09:31,483 --> 00:09:32,920 I want her off. Ollie. 233 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:33,921 Clearly she thinks our client is guilty; 234 00:09:33,921 --> 00:09:34,922 she has from the start. 235 00:09:34,922 --> 00:09:36,227 Oliver, he is guilty. 236 00:09:36,227 --> 00:09:37,533 And if he'’s to have any chance at all, 237 00:09:37,533 --> 00:09:38,969 he'’ll need a lawyer who can see... 238 00:09:38,969 --> 00:09:40,884 I want her off this case and gone from this firm. 239 00:09:40,884 --> 00:09:42,538 What?!I'’m a partner, you'’re an associate. 240 00:09:42,538 --> 00:09:44,279 You'’re out. Pack up. You'’re gone. 241 00:09:44,279 --> 00:09:45,497 That'’s enough. 242 00:09:45,497 --> 00:09:47,108 Both of you in my office right now. 243 00:09:47,108 --> 00:09:50,502 OLLIE: Harry, she'’s not helping. 244 00:09:50,502 --> 00:09:52,026 I certainly don'’t want the jury sensing 245 00:09:52,026 --> 00:09:53,984 her belief that our client is guilty.Oh, please. 246 00:09:53,984 --> 00:09:55,899 You'’re not being supportive.That'’s bull and you know it. 247 00:09:55,899 --> 00:09:57,466 Oh, hey, I'’ve had it with you two! 248 00:09:57,466 --> 00:09:59,250 She never agrees with anything I say. Not true. 249 00:09:59,250 --> 00:10:01,035 She doesn'’t respect me as a lawyer.I agree with that. 250 00:10:01,035 --> 00:10:02,645 You just think you'’re the most clever person on earth, 251 00:10:02,645 --> 00:10:03,820 don'’t you? No, just more clever than some. 252 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:04,952 Take it outside?Cassie! 253 00:10:04,952 --> 00:10:06,823 Harry, he thinks he can just walk 254 00:10:06,823 --> 00:10:09,260 into a room, the jury will swoon, and he'’ll win the case, 255 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:11,045 and it doesn'’t work like that. We'’re arguing insanity 256 00:10:11,045 --> 00:10:12,829 when the kid'’s actions were well thought out, premeditated. 257 00:10:12,829 --> 00:10:14,701 We have experts to testify... 258 00:10:14,701 --> 00:10:16,528 Hired guns with the credibility...I want her off! 259 00:10:16,528 --> 00:10:19,227 Shut up! Both of you. 260 00:10:19,227 --> 00:10:20,576 All right. 261 00:10:20,576 --> 00:10:22,404 She can'’t be taken off now, 262 00:10:22,404 --> 00:10:24,058 or else the jury will pick up on that. 263 00:10:24,058 --> 00:10:25,450 But, Cassie, 264 00:10:25,450 --> 00:10:26,887 you need to be supportive of his case. 265 00:10:26,887 --> 00:10:29,237 He'’s first chair, he'’s a partner. 266 00:10:29,237 --> 00:10:31,195 And whether you believe that our client should be 267 00:10:31,195 --> 00:10:33,545 acquitted or not, we'’ve been hired to achieve that result. 268 00:10:33,545 --> 00:10:35,809 And we'’re professionals. 269 00:10:35,809 --> 00:10:37,419 And if you can'’t be a professional, 270 00:10:37,419 --> 00:10:38,725 maybe you should go back 271 00:10:38,725 --> 00:10:41,466 to the D.A.'’s office. And you. 272 00:10:41,466 --> 00:10:43,860 If your own second chair can'’t support your defense, 273 00:10:43,860 --> 00:10:45,645 instead of simply condemning her, 274 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:48,430 it might behoove you to find out why. 275 00:10:58,309 --> 00:11:00,311 The burials were green. 276 00:11:00,311 --> 00:11:02,836 The vegetables were organic. I just... 277 00:11:02,836 --> 00:11:04,402 Neglected to tell the community 278 00:11:04,402 --> 00:11:07,057 that your two businesses were so intimately connected. 279 00:11:07,057 --> 00:11:08,450 First of all, that was never actually concealed. 280 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:10,234 It just wasn'’t advertised. 281 00:11:10,234 --> 00:11:12,497 And second, everyone, including the plaintiff, was told 282 00:11:12,497 --> 00:11:14,195 the remains would be used to help promote 283 00:11:14,195 --> 00:11:16,110 plant life, including vegetables. 284 00:11:16,110 --> 00:11:18,329 I see. And were your produce customers told 285 00:11:18,329 --> 00:11:19,853 how the vegetables were nourished? 286 00:11:19,853 --> 00:11:21,855 No. 287 00:11:21,855 --> 00:11:23,857 Aren'’t human remains toxic to plant life? At first, 288 00:11:23,857 --> 00:11:25,554 but over time, they become extraordinary fertilizers. 289 00:11:25,554 --> 00:11:27,034 So after decomposition, 290 00:11:27,034 --> 00:11:29,645 we'’d transfer the dirt to our garden. 291 00:11:29,645 --> 00:11:32,082 It was as extremely safe as it was eco-friendly. 292 00:11:32,082 --> 00:11:34,258 Tell me, Mr. Miller, if you'’re so proud of this, 293 00:11:34,258 --> 00:11:35,607 why did you conceal it? 294 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:40,787 I certainly knew people might have a conceptual problem 295 00:11:40,787 --> 00:11:43,441 buying produce that was mulched with human remains. 296 00:11:43,441 --> 00:11:45,574 But again, everything was safe, organic 297 00:11:45,574 --> 00:11:47,837 and in full compliance with the law. 298 00:11:47,837 --> 00:11:50,971 Come on, can you not imagine the horror 299 00:11:50,971 --> 00:11:53,887 of knowing you ate a tomato fertilized with a loved one? 300 00:11:53,887 --> 00:11:55,976 That'’s not at all foreseeable to you-- 301 00:11:55,976 --> 00:11:58,282 that this could cause a relative some distress? 302 00:12:00,937 --> 00:12:03,287 I wish the news were better. 303 00:12:03,287 --> 00:12:05,376 It isn'’t. 304 00:12:05,376 --> 00:12:07,596 There are certain requirements a government must meet 305 00:12:07,596 --> 00:12:09,337 to satisfy eminent domain. 306 00:12:09,337 --> 00:12:11,600 In this case, they'’ve met them. 307 00:12:13,907 --> 00:12:16,866 [speaking Chinese] 308 00:12:16,866 --> 00:12:18,389 It'’s his whole life. 309 00:12:18,389 --> 00:12:19,739 I know. 310 00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:21,131 Their trump card here is the economy. 311 00:12:21,131 --> 00:12:23,394 All the government has to say is, 312 00:12:23,394 --> 00:12:25,745 "More jobs, jobs, jobs," and they win. 313 00:12:25,745 --> 00:12:27,094 Don'’t waste your money on legal fees. 314 00:12:27,094 --> 00:12:28,878 Just negotiate 315 00:12:28,878 --> 00:12:30,662 the best deal you can, 316 00:12:30,662 --> 00:12:33,404 move on to a new location and start again. 317 00:12:41,325 --> 00:12:42,674 They killed my brother. 318 00:12:42,674 --> 00:12:44,981 So I decided I would kill them. 319 00:12:44,981 --> 00:12:46,417 So that'’s what I did. 320 00:12:46,417 --> 00:12:49,203 You want to arrest me, fine, go ahead. 321 00:12:49,203 --> 00:12:51,988 But all I did was get the justice you refused to. 322 00:12:53,816 --> 00:12:55,557 You had read the defendant 323 00:12:55,557 --> 00:12:57,994 his Miranda rights before he made that statement? 324 00:12:57,994 --> 00:12:59,735 We started to. He stopped us. 325 00:12:59,735 --> 00:13:01,737 Said very calmly that he neither needed 326 00:13:01,737 --> 00:13:02,999 nor wanted an attorney. 327 00:13:02,999 --> 00:13:05,393 He just wanted people to know the truth. 328 00:13:05,393 --> 00:13:07,177 And what truth was this, Detective? 329 00:13:07,177 --> 00:13:08,875 Well, that his brother was murdered. 330 00:13:08,875 --> 00:13:11,094 And his death needed to be avenged. 331 00:13:11,094 --> 00:13:12,704 It was an eye for an eye. 332 00:13:12,704 --> 00:13:14,271 KEPLER: And did he seem crazy or psychologically... 333 00:13:14,271 --> 00:13:17,057 Objection. The witness lacks foundation 334 00:13:17,057 --> 00:13:18,841 to testify as to my client'’s mental state. 335 00:13:18,841 --> 00:13:20,147 Lay opinion, Your Honor. 336 00:13:20,147 --> 00:13:21,452 I'’m not interested in his opinion. 337 00:13:21,452 --> 00:13:22,932 He can testify as to what he observed. 338 00:13:22,932 --> 00:13:25,152 Detective? 339 00:13:25,152 --> 00:13:27,241 I observed an individual of sound mind. 340 00:13:27,241 --> 00:13:29,199 Objection. The witness...Sustained. 341 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:33,116 What was the defendant'’s demeanor, Detective, 342 00:13:33,116 --> 00:13:35,118 as he made these statements? 343 00:13:35,118 --> 00:13:37,294 He was calm. His voice was deliberate. 344 00:13:37,294 --> 00:13:39,166 He seemed composed 345 00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:40,994 and very sure of himself. 346 00:13:40,994 --> 00:13:42,691 And he said his brother'’s death needed to be avenged. 347 00:13:42,691 --> 00:13:45,389 Yes. He said "eye for an eye" several times. 348 00:13:45,389 --> 00:13:47,609 Thank you, sir. 349 00:13:50,090 --> 00:13:53,136 Do you have any psychological or medical training, sir? 350 00:13:53,136 --> 00:13:54,659 No. Thank you. 351 00:13:54,659 --> 00:13:56,531 Do you have any clinical experience or qualifications 352 00:13:56,531 --> 00:13:58,402 that would enable you to diagnose a psychotic state? 353 00:13:58,402 --> 00:13:59,795 No, but from what I observed .. 354 00:13:59,795 --> 00:14:01,710 Thank you. Do you have any training-- 355 00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:04,191 clinical or academic-- with regards to psychosis? 356 00:14:04,191 --> 00:14:05,670 No, I do not. Thank you. 357 00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:07,542 And is it your testimony today that if someone 358 00:14:07,542 --> 00:14:09,239 appeared calm and composed, it would be impossible 359 00:14:09,239 --> 00:14:11,198 for them to be suffering from schizophrenia? 360 00:14:11,198 --> 00:14:13,113 That is not my testimony.Thank you. 361 00:14:25,081 --> 00:14:27,431 Wasn'’t the purpose of this for us to talk? 362 00:14:27,431 --> 00:14:30,173 Yeah. I thought we might start with an apology. 363 00:14:30,173 --> 00:14:33,046 Okay. 364 00:14:33,046 --> 00:14:34,351 From you. 365 00:14:34,351 --> 00:14:37,267 [chuckles] 366 00:14:37,267 --> 00:14:39,139 That'’s not the same. 367 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,012 Ollie, I know you'’re a good lawyer. 368 00:14:43,012 --> 00:14:44,709 I just think, here... 369 00:14:44,709 --> 00:14:47,147 you seem a little blinded. 370 00:14:47,147 --> 00:14:49,714 That'’s all.You sure it'’s me? 371 00:14:49,714 --> 00:14:51,891 The Eric Sanders trial-- that case was impossible, 372 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:54,023 but you were the one who remained positive. 373 00:14:54,023 --> 00:14:57,070 Here, you just seem entrenched, like-- 374 00:14:57,070 --> 00:14:58,680 I don'’t know-- it'’s almost personal. 375 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,030 Is it? 376 00:15:02,118 --> 00:15:03,641 Cassie? 377 00:15:05,121 --> 00:15:07,210 Is it? 378 00:15:08,777 --> 00:15:10,910 Look, the experts are going to be a wash. 379 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:12,955 We put up ours, they put up theirs. 380 00:15:12,955 --> 00:15:15,044 When the dust settles, three kids are still dead. 381 00:15:15,044 --> 00:15:16,567 The only way we win this 382 00:15:16,567 --> 00:15:17,917 is if Matthew himself testifies, 383 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:19,222 and I certainly don'’t have 384 00:15:19,222 --> 00:15:21,050 to tell you how dangerous that is. 385 00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:23,400 Okay. What else? 386 00:15:24,488 --> 00:15:25,925 What do you mean, what else? 387 00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:28,928 Why is this case so personal to you? 388 00:15:38,198 --> 00:15:39,982 I'’m a Columbine kid. 389 00:15:41,244 --> 00:15:43,246 Not theColumbine. 390 00:15:43,246 --> 00:15:45,292 It'’s a tag they now give to kids 391 00:15:45,292 --> 00:15:47,076 who'’ve lived through school shootings. 392 00:15:50,253 --> 00:15:53,691 A week before my summer break, sophomore year, 393 00:15:53,691 --> 00:15:56,564 a man came into our cafeteria with an Uzi 394 00:15:56,564 --> 00:15:59,393 and just started... 395 00:16:02,091 --> 00:16:06,095 My best friend, Sara, pulled me under a table. 396 00:16:06,095 --> 00:16:09,577 People I'’d been eating with seconds before... 397 00:16:14,538 --> 00:16:16,671 When he was done, he'’d killed nine people, 398 00:16:16,671 --> 00:16:18,281 including himself and Sara. 399 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:21,893 She was just shy of 16. 400 00:16:25,462 --> 00:16:29,336 12 years, thousands of dollars in therapy, 401 00:16:29,336 --> 00:16:32,252 I still get the shakes when I walk on a campus. 402 00:16:35,690 --> 00:16:39,563 When I look at our client, 403 00:16:39,563 --> 00:16:42,566 a part of me still sees a guy with an Uzi. 404 00:16:45,265 --> 00:16:46,570 I'’m a little curious why you 405 00:16:46,570 --> 00:16:48,007 didn'’t bring this to our attention. 406 00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:49,225 It'’s nothing I can'’t handle. 407 00:16:49,225 --> 00:16:50,879 Cassie, if you look at the client 408 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:52,576 and see a man with an Uzi, 409 00:16:52,576 --> 00:16:54,578 that'’s not exactly handling it. 410 00:16:54,578 --> 00:16:57,320 You had an obligation to make us aware of this. 411 00:16:59,235 --> 00:17:00,889 Can you continue? 412 00:17:00,889 --> 00:17:02,108 Yes. 413 00:17:05,285 --> 00:17:07,026 Can you close? 414 00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:08,288 Wh-what? 415 00:17:08,288 --> 00:17:10,420 The fact that you lived this, 416 00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:12,161 the fact that you know what it'’s like... 417 00:17:12,161 --> 00:17:13,423 CASSIE: No. 418 00:17:13,423 --> 00:17:15,164 You can'’t make me do that. 419 00:17:15,164 --> 00:17:16,774 You can'’t. 420 00:17:16,774 --> 00:17:18,602 I won'’t make you do it. 421 00:17:18,602 --> 00:17:20,648 It'’s totally your call. 422 00:17:22,258 --> 00:17:25,696 You may be in the best position to help this kid. 423 00:17:25,696 --> 00:17:28,221 Assuming you want to. 424 00:17:37,186 --> 00:17:38,709 Norman. 425 00:17:38,709 --> 00:17:41,060 Clearly, you kept this little secret under wraps 426 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,931 because you knew it would freak people out. 427 00:17:42,931 --> 00:17:44,585 If you ever saw what the inside of a slaughterhouse 428 00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:45,847 looked like, you'’d never eat beef. 429 00:17:45,847 --> 00:17:47,283 If you saw what the inside 430 00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:49,329 of farmed salmon looked like before they 431 00:17:49,329 --> 00:17:51,331 feed them little pellets to dye the meat red... 432 00:17:51,331 --> 00:17:52,897 This isn'’t about cows 433 00:17:52,897 --> 00:17:54,160 or farmed salmon. 434 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,639 This is about people. 435 00:17:55,639 --> 00:17:57,728 The most beloved people of all-- the dead ones. 436 00:17:57,728 --> 00:18:00,079 We need to settle. 437 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,255 The thing is, Tommy... 438 00:18:02,255 --> 00:18:04,474 there'’s a slew of potential plaintiffs 439 00:18:04,474 --> 00:18:07,216 waiting in line to see how this case turns out. 440 00:18:07,216 --> 00:18:09,262 If I offer money, they'’ll all sue. 441 00:18:11,046 --> 00:18:13,483 And I'’ll be out of business. 442 00:18:18,053 --> 00:18:22,188 Look, I'’ll give it the good fight if you want, 443 00:18:22,188 --> 00:18:23,798 but summary judgments usually go 444 00:18:23,798 --> 00:18:25,495 in favor of the plaintiff as it is. 445 00:18:25,495 --> 00:18:27,106 We'’re not likely to win here. 446 00:18:27,106 --> 00:18:28,716 And should we lose, 447 00:18:28,716 --> 00:18:32,111 we'’ll need to think about settling. 448 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:34,722 OLLIE: Dr. Bonner, could you briefly 449 00:18:34,722 --> 00:18:36,811 describe your relationship with my client? 450 00:18:36,811 --> 00:18:38,465 I'’ve examined or tested Matthew 451 00:18:38,465 --> 00:18:41,120 more than 30 times over the last 16 months. 452 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,253 And what conclusions, if any, have you drawn, Doctor? 453 00:18:44,253 --> 00:18:46,560 Simply put, that leading up to this shooting spree, 454 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,823 he almost certainly was suffering from psychosis, 455 00:18:48,823 --> 00:18:50,781 most likely schizophrenia and some depression, 456 00:18:50,781 --> 00:18:53,262 exacerbated by the death of his brother. 457 00:18:53,262 --> 00:18:54,611 Could you break that down 458 00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:56,135 a little bit for us?Okay. 459 00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:57,527 Symptoms of depression likely began 460 00:18:57,527 --> 00:18:59,094 with the death of his parents. 461 00:18:59,094 --> 00:19:02,097 The schizophrenia-- basically, it'’s as follows. 462 00:19:02,097 --> 00:19:03,359 After his parents died, 463 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,318 he sort of lived by a simple rule: 464 00:19:05,318 --> 00:19:06,928 "What would Brian do?" 465 00:19:06,928 --> 00:19:09,104 Brian was his older brother. Yes. 466 00:19:09,104 --> 00:19:11,280 Even when they were separated, that was kind of his guide. 467 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,847 "What would Brian do? What would Brian think? 468 00:19:12,847 --> 00:19:14,196 What would Brian say?" 469 00:19:14,196 --> 00:19:17,156 After Brian died, it crossed a line. 470 00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:20,028 He started hearing what Brian would say. 471 00:19:20,028 --> 00:19:23,118 Brian would tell him what to do, what to think. 472 00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:24,772 It was Brian who instructed him 473 00:19:24,772 --> 00:19:26,687 to avenge his death. 474 00:19:26,687 --> 00:19:28,515 That falls under either 475 00:19:28,515 --> 00:19:31,126 delusional disorder or schizophrenia. 476 00:19:31,126 --> 00:19:34,695 You only treated him after he shot these people. 477 00:19:34,695 --> 00:19:36,218 That'’s correct.To your knowledge, 478 00:19:36,218 --> 00:19:39,047 had he ever told anyone before the shooting 479 00:19:39,047 --> 00:19:42,137 that he heard the voice of his deceased older brother? 480 00:19:42,137 --> 00:19:43,399 No, but that'’s not uncommon. 481 00:19:43,399 --> 00:19:44,705 People suffering from this disorder 482 00:19:44,705 --> 00:19:46,707 often don'’t share their delusions 483 00:19:46,707 --> 00:19:48,012 with others. 484 00:19:48,012 --> 00:19:50,711 So he knew they were delusions. 485 00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:52,800 That the voices weren'’t real. 486 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,541 That'’s not what I said. 487 00:19:54,541 --> 00:19:57,326 He likely knew that others would perceive them as unreal. 488 00:19:57,326 --> 00:19:59,589 Ah. And he has some acuity 489 00:19:59,589 --> 00:20:02,026 as to how others might perceive things, does he? 490 00:20:02,026 --> 00:20:03,637 Seems kind of convenient. 491 00:20:03,637 --> 00:20:07,597 He'’s got these voices to lay a triple murder on. 492 00:20:07,597 --> 00:20:09,773 If your suggestion is that I'’ve been duped, I can tell you... 493 00:20:09,773 --> 00:20:11,601 Did his older brother, Brian, tell him how to 494 00:20:11,601 --> 00:20:14,082 carry out this murder plot with such efficient precision? 495 00:20:14,082 --> 00:20:16,345 Seems Brian sure knew what he was talking about, didn'’t he? 496 00:20:16,345 --> 00:20:18,695 Objection.Withdrawn. This kid was methodical, 497 00:20:18,695 --> 00:20:20,436 he was organized. 498 00:20:20,436 --> 00:20:23,047 Are you telling me all those premeditated 499 00:20:23,047 --> 00:20:25,528 executive decisions were made by dead Brian, 500 00:20:25,528 --> 00:20:27,051 and Matthew was simply following orders? 501 00:20:27,051 --> 00:20:28,749 It'’s not as simple as that and you know it. 502 00:20:28,749 --> 00:20:30,316 No, it seems complicated. 503 00:20:30,316 --> 00:20:32,143 And you say Matthew was controlled 504 00:20:32,143 --> 00:20:33,536 by his brother'’s voice, 505 00:20:33,536 --> 00:20:35,408 and that'’s why he did what he did. 506 00:20:35,408 --> 00:20:37,671 When right after he did it, he went and apologized 507 00:20:37,671 --> 00:20:39,238 to Janice Carroll for shooting her. 508 00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:40,500 Doesn'’t that kind of remorse show 509 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:41,762 that he knew what he did was wrong? 510 00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:43,503 Or did Brian whisper in his ear, 511 00:20:43,503 --> 00:20:45,766 Objection!"Go say sorry"? 512 00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:47,681 That only shows he didn'’t desire to shoot Janice. 513 00:20:47,681 --> 00:20:49,813 He shows no appreciation of the wrongfulness of 514 00:20:49,813 --> 00:20:51,685 shooting the three boys.Can you look those parents 515 00:20:51,685 --> 00:20:53,252 in the eye and say the killer of their children 516 00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:54,514 should be set free? 517 00:20:54,514 --> 00:20:55,863 I can say that Matthew is ill. 518 00:20:55,863 --> 00:20:58,431 He needs treatment, not prison. 519 00:20:58,431 --> 00:21:00,259 I bet your doctors will say that, too. 520 00:21:06,047 --> 00:21:08,354 TOMMY: There is no evidence to suggest 521 00:21:08,354 --> 00:21:10,356 that the plaintiff consumed any produce 522 00:21:10,356 --> 00:21:12,183 actually fertilized with her mother'’s remains. 523 00:21:12,183 --> 00:21:14,751 But just the possibility that she might have, 524 00:21:14,751 --> 00:21:17,014 that'’s enough to cause emotional distress. 525 00:21:17,014 --> 00:21:18,320 TOMMY: Oh, please, our court dockets 526 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,887 are logjammed as it is, 527 00:21:19,887 --> 00:21:21,671 that'’s with actual cases, 528 00:21:21,671 --> 00:21:24,239 which take anywhere from three to six years to get litigated. 529 00:21:24,239 --> 00:21:26,110 Now, you want to open them up to include "could haves," 530 00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:28,635 "might haves," cases where, gee, "maybe there are grounds." 531 00:21:28,635 --> 00:21:30,376 I don'’t think so.She has an actual case now 532 00:21:30,376 --> 00:21:32,813 if she has reason to suspect her mother was used 533 00:21:32,813 --> 00:21:34,205 to feed the tomatoes.TOMMY: Oh, please. 534 00:21:34,205 --> 00:21:36,599 He at least had a duty to disclose it. 535 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:38,949 My client made all disclosures as required by law. 536 00:21:38,949 --> 00:21:41,430 Are you suggesting he go beyond that which the law requires? 537 00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:43,693 If so, you'’d be the first idiot to say that. 538 00:21:43,693 --> 00:21:46,392 The indignity of eating food grown with human remains... 539 00:21:46,392 --> 00:21:48,350 As opposed to cow crap, pig dung? 540 00:21:48,350 --> 00:21:50,396 All right, Counsel. I have to admit 541 00:21:50,396 --> 00:21:52,267 I find this whole thing a bit disgusting. 542 00:21:52,267 --> 00:21:54,530 Why? Why? 543 00:21:54,530 --> 00:21:56,967 Judge, before you heap contempt on my client, 544 00:21:56,967 --> 00:21:59,361 consider that at least he is doing something to save this planet, 545 00:21:59,361 --> 00:22:01,798 perhaps for your grandchildren, for mine. 546 00:22:01,798 --> 00:22:04,018 What'’s truly vile are cemeteries. 547 00:22:04,018 --> 00:22:05,193 Give me a break. 548 00:22:05,193 --> 00:22:06,412 It takes an entire 549 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:08,979 full-grown tree to make one casket. 550 00:22:08,979 --> 00:22:12,113 We fill corpses with embalming fluids, 551 00:22:12,113 --> 00:22:14,985 noxious carcinogenic chemicals that pollute the groundwater 552 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:17,597 in the time it takes a body to decay. 553 00:22:17,597 --> 00:22:20,295 Millions of acres are lost to cemeteries, trees mowed down, 554 00:22:20,295 --> 00:22:22,776 land that can never be developed into anything 555 00:22:22,776 --> 00:22:25,082 productive, and they require a lot of maintenance, 556 00:22:25,082 --> 00:22:27,824 and that means using fertilizers, herbicides, 557 00:22:27,824 --> 00:22:29,522 insecticides, chemicals which leach 558 00:22:29,522 --> 00:22:31,654 into water supplies, and why? 559 00:22:31,654 --> 00:22:32,873 To honor dead people?All right. 560 00:22:32,873 --> 00:22:35,223 And cremation is just as bad. 561 00:22:35,223 --> 00:22:36,572 Judge, it burns fossil fuels 562 00:22:36,572 --> 00:22:38,052 and releases pollutants into the air. 563 00:22:38,052 --> 00:22:40,228 Mr. Jefferson, this is not a referendum 564 00:22:40,228 --> 00:22:42,056 on cremation or cemeteries. 565 00:22:42,056 --> 00:22:43,449 Well, perhaps it should be. 566 00:22:43,449 --> 00:22:45,494 They'’re horrible to the environment, 567 00:22:45,494 --> 00:22:46,930 potentially life-threatening to us all, 568 00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:49,063 and yet who'’s on trial here? My guy. 569 00:22:49,063 --> 00:22:51,674 My guy, who'’s doing what he can; 570 00:22:51,674 --> 00:22:53,372 he'’s growing pesticide-free produce in a way 571 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:56,810 that saves the planet, preserves land, protects ecosystems, 572 00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:59,378 but hell, let'’s just sue him anyway 573 00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:00,901 just because this woman may have 574 00:23:00,901 --> 00:23:02,555 eaten a tomato that may have been 575 00:23:02,555 --> 00:23:05,340 fertilized by her decomposed mother, and she feels icky. 576 00:23:05,340 --> 00:23:07,081 How dare you trivialize this? 577 00:23:07,081 --> 00:23:09,083 I don'’t trivialize death, Ms. Harrington, 578 00:23:09,083 --> 00:23:11,041 not your mother'’s, not anybody'’s. 579 00:23:11,041 --> 00:23:13,566 But cemeteries cause death, they'’re toxic, 580 00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:16,656 they kill people, they kill the planet, and this is 581 00:23:16,656 --> 00:23:18,875 not the guy whose ass should be dragged into court. 582 00:23:18,875 --> 00:23:21,138 All right! Perhaps in furtherance 583 00:23:21,138 --> 00:23:23,010 of a toxic-free environment, you might 584 00:23:23,010 --> 00:23:24,707 stop talking, Mr. Jefferson. 585 00:23:24,707 --> 00:23:26,187 I'’ll take all of this under advisement. 586 00:23:26,187 --> 00:23:27,580 [bangs gavel]We'’re adjourned. 587 00:23:27,580 --> 00:23:29,799 I gave it my best shot, Norman. 588 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:31,932 Thanks, Tommy. 589 00:23:31,932 --> 00:23:34,500 You are a disgrace of a human being, you know that? 590 00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:36,632 A disgrace. 591 00:23:42,725 --> 00:23:43,857 Hey. 592 00:23:43,857 --> 00:23:45,641 Hey. 593 00:23:45,641 --> 00:23:47,774 Adam, I just came to say thanks 594 00:23:47,774 --> 00:23:49,515 for this case, and last week. 595 00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:50,603 Thank you. 596 00:23:50,603 --> 00:23:51,995 I sort of lost them both. 597 00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:53,475 You tried. 598 00:23:53,475 --> 00:23:55,651 Look, I'’ll continue to tweak the settlement, 599 00:23:55,651 --> 00:23:57,087 squeeze as much as I can. 600 00:23:57,087 --> 00:23:59,263 In the meantime, any idea what you'’ll do? 601 00:23:59,263 --> 00:24:02,092 My father got work at another dry cleaners, 602 00:24:02,092 --> 00:24:04,051 Oh. which is good. 603 00:24:04,051 --> 00:24:05,792 I'’ll find something. 604 00:24:05,792 --> 00:24:09,622 Again, Adam, thank you. 605 00:24:09,622 --> 00:24:11,275 Chunhua, 606 00:24:11,275 --> 00:24:14,975 listen, we'’re looking to hire somebody, 607 00:24:14,975 --> 00:24:17,673 both as an assistant and to help manage the shoe store. 608 00:24:17,673 --> 00:24:19,327 I'’m not sure that'’s a good idea. 609 00:24:19,327 --> 00:24:20,894 Why not? 610 00:24:20,894 --> 00:24:23,200 You have experience running a small business, 611 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,116 which is what we'’re looking for. I mean, I know we... 612 00:24:26,116 --> 00:24:28,075 But I mean, that shouldn'’t be an issue, right? 613 00:24:28,075 --> 00:24:31,948 Well, are you sure you'’d be okay with it? 614 00:24:31,948 --> 00:24:33,297 It could be weird. 615 00:24:33,297 --> 00:24:35,952 We'’re both adults. 616 00:24:35,952 --> 00:24:38,128 I'’ll be... fine, I think. 617 00:24:38,128 --> 00:24:39,869 I mean, if you... 618 00:24:39,869 --> 00:24:41,784 We'’re both adults. 619 00:24:45,353 --> 00:24:47,355 We need to put him up there. 620 00:24:47,355 --> 00:24:51,011 It'’s so dangerous.Can you see any other way? 621 00:24:51,011 --> 00:24:53,056 Oliver, we don'’t really know what he'’s gonna say. 622 00:24:53,056 --> 00:24:55,319 The way I figure, he either comes off as sympathetic, 623 00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:57,844 which is good, or crazy, even better. 624 00:24:59,846 --> 00:25:02,152 You give any thought to closing? 625 00:25:02,152 --> 00:25:05,678 You really think it'’s gonna help? 626 00:25:05,678 --> 00:25:07,810 Actually, I do. 627 00:25:08,985 --> 00:25:10,900 Okay. 628 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:13,120 In which case, you should probably take Matthew 629 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,122 so you have at least some relationship 630 00:25:15,122 --> 00:25:17,037 with the jury when you get up to close. 631 00:25:17,037 --> 00:25:18,865 I don'’t even feel I know this kid. 632 00:25:18,865 --> 00:25:20,431 None of us really do. 633 00:25:20,431 --> 00:25:21,824 All we know for certain is that he needs help. 634 00:25:21,824 --> 00:25:23,391 It doesn'’t have to be long, 635 00:25:23,391 --> 00:25:24,827 just enough for the jury to get a sense of him. 636 00:25:24,827 --> 00:25:27,526 Okay. 637 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:28,788 Look at me. 638 00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:32,269 If you can'’t do it, just say so. 639 00:25:34,794 --> 00:25:36,839 I can do it. 640 00:25:42,453 --> 00:25:43,629 Are you out of your mind? 641 00:25:43,629 --> 00:25:45,152 Harry, we need administrative help, 642 00:25:45,152 --> 00:25:46,675 especially in accounting, 643 00:25:46,675 --> 00:25:48,242 Chunhua has...She'’s your old girlfriend. 644 00:25:48,242 --> 00:25:50,679 And old news. It'’s not gonna be a factor. 645 00:25:50,679 --> 00:25:52,420 Of course it'’s gonna be a factor-- you slept with her. 646 00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:53,682 Once you sleep with somebody, 647 00:25:53,682 --> 00:25:55,510 he or she'’s a factor for life! 648 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:59,035 You can'’t unsleep with a person, trust me, I'’ve tried. 649 00:25:59,035 --> 00:26:00,689 People can still be friends after... 650 00:26:00,689 --> 00:26:02,561 Oh, balls, that never happens. 651 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:04,040 Will you listen to me?No! 652 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,433 She'’s not working here. 653 00:26:05,433 --> 00:26:07,000 You just tell her you made a mistake. 654 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,784 You were thinking with Mr. Dickie. 655 00:26:08,784 --> 00:26:10,656 Now she'’ll just have to look someplace else. 656 00:26:10,656 --> 00:26:12,005 I can'’t unhire her. 657 00:26:12,005 --> 00:26:14,181 Of course you can. You just tell her you were 658 00:26:14,181 --> 00:26:15,443 a dope and now you'’re over being a dope. 659 00:26:15,443 --> 00:26:16,792 She'’s not working here. 660 00:26:16,792 --> 00:26:18,402 Hey, Harry! 661 00:26:20,535 --> 00:26:22,276 Chunhua. 662 00:26:22,276 --> 00:26:24,017 I just want to thank you. 663 00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:26,193 People aren'’t hiring in this economy at all. 664 00:26:26,193 --> 00:26:29,283 I was sure I... 665 00:26:29,283 --> 00:26:32,155 I know that the generosity of this firm starts at the top. 666 00:26:32,155 --> 00:26:35,332 So... thank you. 667 00:26:35,332 --> 00:26:37,073 I am so grateful. 668 00:26:38,901 --> 00:26:40,120 Yes. 669 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,514 It'’s good to have you here. 670 00:26:43,514 --> 00:26:45,516 Now if you'’ll excuse me, 671 00:26:45,516 --> 00:26:47,127 I'’m gonna go pass a kidney stone. 672 00:26:50,783 --> 00:26:52,741 Okay, the first thing I'’m gonna ask-- 673 00:26:52,741 --> 00:26:54,743 since we'’re arguing insanity-- 674 00:26:54,743 --> 00:26:56,745 some people here might wonder whether you know 675 00:26:56,745 --> 00:26:59,574 what'’s going on. Do you? 676 00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:00,923 Yes. 677 00:27:00,923 --> 00:27:02,838 What'’s going on, Matthew? 678 00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:05,624 I'’m on trial for shooting those kids. 679 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:07,974 And do you know what you'’re on trial for? 680 00:27:07,974 --> 00:27:09,323 Murder. 681 00:27:09,323 --> 00:27:11,107 And you never denied shooting them, right? 682 00:27:11,107 --> 00:27:13,806 But I deny it'’s murder. 683 00:27:13,806 --> 00:27:16,025 Murder is when it'’s unjustified. 684 00:27:16,025 --> 00:27:17,592 They killed my brother. 685 00:27:17,592 --> 00:27:19,507 You loved your brother very much. 686 00:27:22,553 --> 00:27:25,469 You loved your brother very much, 687 00:27:25,469 --> 00:27:27,036 didn'’t you, Matthew? 688 00:27:27,036 --> 00:27:29,517 I don'’t want to talk about my brother. 689 00:27:29,517 --> 00:27:30,779 He'’s dead. 690 00:27:36,219 --> 00:27:38,482 Okay, let'’s go back a bit. 691 00:27:38,482 --> 00:27:40,615 Let'’s talk about your parents. 692 00:27:40,615 --> 00:27:42,573 I don'’t want to talk about my parents. 693 00:27:42,573 --> 00:27:46,403 Well, that makes my job a little difficult, I have to admit. 694 00:27:46,403 --> 00:27:48,231 '’Cause what I'’m trying to do here 695 00:27:48,231 --> 00:27:50,581 is get the jury to know a little bit more about you. 696 00:27:50,581 --> 00:27:52,932 And from what I know, your brother meant 697 00:27:52,932 --> 00:27:55,543 everything to you, except for maybe your parents. 698 00:27:55,543 --> 00:27:57,545 I-I don'’t want to talk about my brother. 699 00:27:57,545 --> 00:27:59,416 My-My brother'’s dead. 700 00:27:59,416 --> 00:28:01,114 Those kids killed him. 701 00:28:01,114 --> 00:28:03,029 That'’s why I shot them. 702 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:05,988 That must have been a very hard thing for you to do. 703 00:28:05,988 --> 00:28:08,251 Can you tell us 704 00:28:08,251 --> 00:28:09,992 what it felt like to shoot them? 705 00:28:18,305 --> 00:28:21,047 Do you remember shooting them, Matthew? 706 00:28:22,352 --> 00:28:24,093 Matthew, 707 00:28:24,093 --> 00:28:25,921 do you remember shooting 708 00:28:25,921 --> 00:28:28,315 those three boys and Janice Carroll? 709 00:28:31,274 --> 00:28:33,407 No. 710 00:28:33,407 --> 00:28:35,452 But I... 711 00:28:35,452 --> 00:28:37,280 I know I did. 712 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,587 [sighs] I know I did. 713 00:28:39,587 --> 00:28:41,981 Okay. Can you tell us...? 714 00:28:41,981 --> 00:28:43,983 [shouting]: I don'’t want to talk about my brother, okay? 715 00:28:43,983 --> 00:28:47,900 He'’s dead! He'’s-he'’s dead, and he-he doesn'’t want... 716 00:28:50,163 --> 00:28:52,252 He doesn'’t want what? 717 00:28:54,471 --> 00:28:58,127 Is he speaking to you right now, Matthew? Matthew...? 718 00:28:58,127 --> 00:28:59,738 Shut up. 719 00:29:04,264 --> 00:29:06,222 You'’re-you'’re not to be trusted. 720 00:29:11,967 --> 00:29:15,057 Can I be trusted, Matthew? 721 00:29:17,103 --> 00:29:18,757 Does Brian trust me? 722 00:29:21,194 --> 00:29:22,717 I'’d like to go home now. 723 00:29:24,066 --> 00:29:26,547 Please. It... 724 00:29:26,547 --> 00:29:29,028 It'’s time to go home. 725 00:29:29,028 --> 00:29:32,161 Your Honor, I think we'’re going to stop here. 726 00:29:32,161 --> 00:29:35,164 Thank you, Matthew. 727 00:29:51,006 --> 00:29:53,704 Just a few questions, Matthew. 728 00:29:53,704 --> 00:29:57,491 In fact, I'’ll make these yes or no, 729 00:29:57,491 --> 00:29:59,841 since I can see this is difficult. 730 00:30:01,060 --> 00:30:03,932 After your brother'’s death, 731 00:30:03,932 --> 00:30:05,934 you met with police officers 732 00:30:05,934 --> 00:30:07,414 and detectives 733 00:30:07,414 --> 00:30:09,242 to discuss the potential criminal prosecutions 734 00:30:09,242 --> 00:30:11,113 for the boys you deemed responsible. 735 00:30:11,113 --> 00:30:12,506 Right? 736 00:30:12,506 --> 00:30:14,073 Yes. 737 00:30:14,073 --> 00:30:17,424 And you were very disappointed, then upset, 738 00:30:17,424 --> 00:30:20,427 that the boys were not going to be criminally charged. 739 00:30:20,427 --> 00:30:23,430 And about three weeks after this disappointment, 740 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:26,346 you applied for a gun permit, which you did not get 741 00:30:26,346 --> 00:30:27,826 because you were only 17. 742 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:30,350 True? 743 00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:31,786 Yes. 744 00:30:31,786 --> 00:30:34,484 Then you procured a gun from an acquaintance. 745 00:30:34,484 --> 00:30:36,791 Then, through social networking 746 00:30:36,791 --> 00:30:38,793 and, I guess, your computer skills, 747 00:30:38,793 --> 00:30:40,403 you ascertained the class schedules 748 00:30:40,403 --> 00:30:41,622 of these boys? 749 00:30:41,622 --> 00:30:43,276 Yes? Yes. 750 00:30:43,276 --> 00:30:45,147 You further ascertained 751 00:30:45,147 --> 00:30:48,368 that they routinely congregated at 11:15 on Wednesdays 752 00:30:48,368 --> 00:30:51,240 in front of one of the school'’s frat houses. 753 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,763 True? 754 00:30:52,763 --> 00:30:54,940 Yes. 755 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:58,073 And you formulated a plan where you would go to that spot 756 00:30:58,073 --> 00:31:01,294 at the designated time... and shoot them. 757 00:31:02,643 --> 00:31:04,471 Which plan you carried out. 758 00:31:04,471 --> 00:31:06,865 True? 759 00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:09,955 Yes. 760 00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:12,305 That'’s all I have. 761 00:31:21,531 --> 00:31:24,447 The irony of this case doesn'’t escape me. 762 00:31:24,447 --> 00:31:27,494 The amount of poison that we ingest on a daily basis, 763 00:31:27,494 --> 00:31:29,670 and here we have a person making a healthy, 764 00:31:29,670 --> 00:31:31,977 natural product, good for us, good for the planet, 765 00:31:31,977 --> 00:31:33,630 and he is being sued. 766 00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:35,981 You see, we as a society 767 00:31:35,981 --> 00:31:38,809 have a, uh, beloved relationship with the dead. 768 00:31:38,809 --> 00:31:40,115 The reason half of us go to funerals is 769 00:31:40,115 --> 00:31:41,856 to pay our respects to people 770 00:31:41,856 --> 00:31:43,814 that we couldn'’t be bothered with while they were living. 771 00:31:43,814 --> 00:31:45,773 Yeah, we like our dead. 772 00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:48,776 We'’d killfor our dead. In fact, it seems we do. 773 00:31:48,776 --> 00:31:51,779 Just in this country alone, every year, we bury 30 million 774 00:31:51,779 --> 00:31:53,433 board-feet of hardwoods. 775 00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:54,913 Over a 100,000 tons 776 00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:56,218 of bronze, steel, copper, 777 00:31:56,218 --> 00:31:57,828 over a million tons 778 00:31:57,828 --> 00:32:00,614 of concrete, over a million gallons of formaldehyde. 779 00:32:00,614 --> 00:32:02,877 Every year, we are burying this in our soil. 780 00:32:02,877 --> 00:32:04,792 Not to mention that we cut down trees 781 00:32:04,792 --> 00:32:07,490 on over two million acres to make our cemeteries, and then, 782 00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:09,623 we blitz all of that with poisonous pesticides. 783 00:32:09,623 --> 00:32:12,191 We kill the planet, we kill each other 784 00:32:12,191 --> 00:32:13,975 to honor our dead. 785 00:32:13,975 --> 00:32:16,369 But what we do not do... 786 00:32:16,369 --> 00:32:18,762 is sprinkle our dead on tomatoes. 787 00:32:18,762 --> 00:32:20,851 Now, Ms. Harrington, 788 00:32:20,851 --> 00:32:22,505 if this case goes before a jury, 789 00:32:22,505 --> 00:32:25,334 chances are they'’re going to hammer the defendant, 790 00:32:25,334 --> 00:32:27,336 which is why I'’m not going to let it go to a jury. 791 00:32:27,336 --> 00:32:28,816 Now, from what I'’ve heard 792 00:32:28,816 --> 00:32:29,904 about your mother, I think she, 793 00:32:29,904 --> 00:32:31,340 she might feel honored 794 00:32:31,340 --> 00:32:33,473 to be giving back to the earth, 795 00:32:33,473 --> 00:32:35,518 and since she'’s not here, I'’m going to say 796 00:32:35,518 --> 00:32:37,303 something to you that she might: 797 00:32:37,303 --> 00:32:39,044 Get over it. 798 00:32:39,044 --> 00:32:40,697 This case is dismissed. 799 00:32:43,526 --> 00:32:45,920 [sighs] Okay, how much do we love this judge? 800 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,575 [sighs] You saved my business is what you just did. 801 00:32:48,575 --> 00:32:50,707 Thank you, thank you. 802 00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:55,930 He didn'’t snap. 803 00:32:55,930 --> 00:32:57,584 He was methodical 804 00:32:57,584 --> 00:33:00,848 in planning, in preparation, execution. 805 00:33:00,848 --> 00:33:05,592 This was meticulous, careful, premeditated behavior 806 00:33:05,592 --> 00:33:09,900 carried out by the defendant to accomplish a revenge murder. 807 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:12,599 He woke up that morning, checked his computer, 808 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,863 made himself breakfast, got dressed, drove to the school, 809 00:33:15,863 --> 00:33:18,561 obeyed all the traffic laws on the way over. 810 00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:21,042 Then, after mission accomplished, 811 00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:24,959 he'’s telling doctors that he hears dead people. 812 00:33:24,959 --> 00:33:26,569 Insanity. 813 00:33:26,569 --> 00:33:28,919 I don'’t doubt 814 00:33:28,919 --> 00:33:31,270 that the defendant suffered a terrible tragedy 815 00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:33,098 and a lot of pain here. 816 00:33:33,098 --> 00:33:35,230 Many do. 817 00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:37,537 That does not make it okay to take the law 818 00:33:37,537 --> 00:33:38,973 into your own hands, 819 00:33:38,973 --> 00:33:42,281 go buy a gun, take some target practice, 820 00:33:42,281 --> 00:33:45,458 and then exact eye-for-an-eye justice. 821 00:33:45,458 --> 00:33:46,894 That is not who we are, 822 00:33:46,894 --> 00:33:50,202 whether you claim you hear voices or not. 823 00:34:10,526 --> 00:34:14,748 Matthew is a killer, but that does not make him a murderer. 824 00:34:16,663 --> 00:34:20,754 We think of insanity as more of a flash thing. 825 00:34:20,754 --> 00:34:21,798 "He lost his mind." 826 00:34:21,798 --> 00:34:22,930 "He snapped." 827 00:34:22,930 --> 00:34:24,018 "He just went off the deep end, 828 00:34:24,018 --> 00:34:25,628 started speaking in tongues." 829 00:34:25,628 --> 00:34:29,458 Much harder for us to see it as something chronic, 830 00:34:29,458 --> 00:34:31,156 something even methodical, 831 00:34:31,156 --> 00:34:33,332 but that'’s exactly what happened here. 832 00:34:33,332 --> 00:34:35,943 First, his parents were killed, 833 00:34:35,943 --> 00:34:39,033 and then when his brother died... 834 00:34:39,033 --> 00:34:42,080 Matthew became delusional. 835 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,995 It triggered a psychosis, and ultimately he slipped 836 00:34:44,995 --> 00:34:47,476 into a floridly psychotic state, 837 00:34:47,476 --> 00:34:49,696 and you saw what happened. 838 00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:54,092 This young man threw his life away. 839 00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:57,660 That'’s not high-level executive functioning. 840 00:34:57,660 --> 00:34:59,184 That'’s crazy. 841 00:34:59,184 --> 00:35:01,186 He was on a rampage. 842 00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:04,667 That'’s not efficient, precision-like behavior. 843 00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:06,626 That'’s nuts. 844 00:35:07,714 --> 00:35:09,368 You saw him in that video. 845 00:35:09,368 --> 00:35:11,761 You witnessed him in that chair. 846 00:35:11,761 --> 00:35:13,850 He was incapable of acting in his own best interests 847 00:35:13,850 --> 00:35:15,243 while testifying. 848 00:35:15,243 --> 00:35:18,420 He seemed a bit of a madman, didn'’t he? 849 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:20,553 '’Cause that'’s what he is. 850 00:35:27,299 --> 00:35:29,562 I certainly understand the desire 851 00:35:29,562 --> 00:35:31,520 or need to see him jailed. 852 00:35:37,961 --> 00:35:39,920 When I was in high school... 853 00:35:42,705 --> 00:35:45,360 ...a man came onto our campus and opened fire, 854 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,408 killing nine people, including my best friend, 855 00:35:49,408 --> 00:35:52,367 who was sitting next to me. 856 00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:55,762 I still see her face. 857 00:35:57,677 --> 00:35:59,679 And I... 858 00:36:02,725 --> 00:36:04,684 I still see his. 859 00:36:16,783 --> 00:36:19,089 I know firsthand 860 00:36:19,089 --> 00:36:20,961 how difficult it is for us 861 00:36:20,961 --> 00:36:24,747 to look beyond our need for retribution, to... 862 00:36:29,317 --> 00:36:32,929 Matthew Gayles is sick. 863 00:36:32,929 --> 00:36:36,019 I don'’t want to see him walk the streets any more than you do, 864 00:36:36,019 --> 00:36:38,021 but he'’s ill. 865 00:36:39,762 --> 00:36:44,593 You want to lock him up, okay. 866 00:36:44,593 --> 00:36:48,118 Just put him in a place where he can get help. 867 00:37:06,702 --> 00:37:09,488 Basically, you'’ll go up and down as needed. 868 00:37:09,488 --> 00:37:10,750 Okay. I would suggest you concentrate 869 00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:12,012 on the shoe store first. 870 00:37:12,012 --> 00:37:14,536 We'’ve had some administrative bumps. 871 00:37:14,536 --> 00:37:16,016 There might be some issues with staffing 872 00:37:16,016 --> 00:37:17,496 that need working out. 873 00:37:17,496 --> 00:37:19,019 We can talk about that once you get settled. 874 00:37:19,019 --> 00:37:21,674 Okay, you'’ve been officially welcomed. 875 00:37:21,674 --> 00:37:23,937 Not many rules-- the hours are 8:00 to 6:00. 876 00:37:23,937 --> 00:37:25,939 You'’ll split '’em between up here and down at the shoe store. 877 00:37:25,939 --> 00:37:28,071 As for dress code, you'’ll look neat and presentable, 878 00:37:28,071 --> 00:37:29,856 as you usually do. 879 00:37:29,856 --> 00:37:33,120 Whatever I say, do, and above all, 880 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,730 stay away from Adam'’s penis. 881 00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:36,123 You got that? 882 00:37:36,123 --> 00:37:38,212 TOMMY: Harry, I'’ve been thinking. 883 00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:39,605 Oh, never a good idea. 884 00:37:39,605 --> 00:37:41,346 I think everybody in this office should commit 885 00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:43,173 to having a green burial to save the planet. 886 00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:44,566 Oh, forget it. 887 00:37:44,566 --> 00:37:46,394 I don'’t want to be stuck in the ground. 888 00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:48,048 When I go, I want to be dropped in the ocean. 889 00:37:48,048 --> 00:37:49,745 At least I can feed something. 890 00:37:49,745 --> 00:37:51,356 The ocean, like Osama bin Laden? 891 00:37:51,356 --> 00:37:52,748 It'’s my way of giving back. 892 00:37:52,748 --> 00:37:55,273 Let the sharks have their way with me. 893 00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:57,187 How was she? She was great. 894 00:37:57,187 --> 00:37:58,493 Really? Couldn'’t have been better. 895 00:37:58,493 --> 00:38:00,495 She didn'’t ask the jury to like him, 896 00:38:00,495 --> 00:38:02,802 to forgive him, just see that he was ill. 897 00:38:02,802 --> 00:38:06,153 Harry, I didn'’t appreciate that comment about my penis. 898 00:38:06,153 --> 00:38:07,589 Oh, relax, you should be glad 899 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:09,548 somebody is finally talking about it. 900 00:38:11,158 --> 00:38:14,770 Ollie, the D.A. wants to meet. 901 00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:17,469 He pleads to murder, I'’ll go 20 to life for each killing. 902 00:38:17,469 --> 00:38:19,471 Simultaneous. Consecutive. 903 00:38:19,471 --> 00:38:21,560 60 years?He gets to live, 904 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,475 which is no guarantee right now.Voluntary manslaughter-- 905 00:38:23,475 --> 00:38:25,303 we'’ll agree to five years in a treatment facility. 906 00:38:27,174 --> 00:38:28,784 Come on, Kathryn.Ten years 907 00:38:28,784 --> 00:38:30,264 per count, simultaneous. 908 00:38:30,264 --> 00:38:32,832 Yeah, even if I could sell that to Hosanna, 909 00:38:32,832 --> 00:38:34,442 I could never to the public. 910 00:38:34,442 --> 00:38:35,748 I'’ll give you ten on each, consecutive. 911 00:38:35,748 --> 00:38:38,664 That'’s my line in the sand. 912 00:38:42,102 --> 00:38:46,149 No. Matthew, I know 30 years seems like a long time. 913 00:38:46,149 --> 00:38:49,588 I'’m not going to prison for 30 years; I'’d rather die. 914 00:38:49,588 --> 00:38:50,937 That just might be the alternative. 915 00:38:50,937 --> 00:38:52,634 If you'’re convicted, you very well 916 00:38:52,634 --> 00:38:54,419 could be facing lethal injection. 917 00:38:58,466 --> 00:39:01,643 My brother would say "fight this." 918 00:39:01,643 --> 00:39:03,689 Which you did. 919 00:39:03,689 --> 00:39:05,995 Your brother would also say "save your life." 920 00:39:10,783 --> 00:39:12,437 Maybe we should get a guardian appointed. 921 00:39:12,437 --> 00:39:14,308 No, if he was deemed competent to stand trial, 922 00:39:14,308 --> 00:39:16,963 we won'’t get a guardian. It'’s his call. 923 00:39:16,963 --> 00:39:18,747 [phone chimes]I'’m not taking 30 years. 924 00:39:18,747 --> 00:39:20,096 Let'’s just see what the jury says. 925 00:39:20,096 --> 00:39:21,924 Well, they'’re saying it now. 926 00:39:21,924 --> 00:39:23,317 Jury'’s back. 927 00:39:24,492 --> 00:39:26,712 JUDGE: Mr. Foreman, 928 00:39:26,712 --> 00:39:28,540 has the jury reached a unanimous verdict? 929 00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:30,498 We have, Your Honor. 930 00:39:30,498 --> 00:39:33,066 In the matter of The State of Ohio 931 00:39:33,066 --> 00:39:35,068 v. Matthew Jamison Gayles, 932 00:39:35,068 --> 00:39:37,636 on three counts of aggravated murder 933 00:39:37,636 --> 00:39:39,507 and one count of attempted murder, 934 00:39:39,507 --> 00:39:41,466 we the jury find the defendant 935 00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:43,555 Matthew Gayles 936 00:39:43,555 --> 00:39:44,686 guilty. 937 00:39:44,686 --> 00:39:46,340 [gasping and murmuring] 938 00:39:46,340 --> 00:39:48,081 [gavel bangs] 939 00:39:48,081 --> 00:39:51,084 JUDGE: Okay, the defendant will be taken back into custody. 940 00:39:51,084 --> 00:39:53,565 Sentencing is scheduled for next Tuesday at 3:00. 941 00:39:53,565 --> 00:39:55,784 Let'’s go.Members of the jury, this concludes your service. 942 00:39:55,784 --> 00:39:58,134 You'’re dismissed with the thanks of the court. 943 00:39:58,134 --> 00:39:59,484 We'’re adjourned. 944 00:40:01,094 --> 00:40:03,662 [reporters clamoring] 945 00:40:09,145 --> 00:40:10,582 Aggravated? 946 00:40:10,582 --> 00:40:11,844 All three counts. 947 00:40:11,844 --> 00:40:14,237 Sentencing'’s next week. 948 00:40:14,237 --> 00:40:16,239 What are you thinking?Good chance-- lethal. 949 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,198 Three basically innocent college kids 950 00:40:18,198 --> 00:40:19,852 just mowed down on video. 951 00:40:19,852 --> 00:40:21,288 Look, I, uh... 952 00:40:21,288 --> 00:40:23,377 First, my condolences. 953 00:40:23,377 --> 00:40:24,900 Second, should he be sentenced to death, 954 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:26,206 you think the kid might consider, 955 00:40:26,206 --> 00:40:28,077 you know, a green burial? 956 00:40:28,077 --> 00:40:29,514 It'’s a chance for redemption. 957 00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:31,429 Not the time, Tommy. 958 00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:34,997 How'’s she doing? 959 00:40:34,997 --> 00:40:38,044 Okay, I think. 960 00:40:39,132 --> 00:40:41,090 [siren wailing in distance] 961 00:40:50,012 --> 00:40:51,971 How are you doing? 962 00:40:53,015 --> 00:40:55,583 Okay. 963 00:40:55,583 --> 00:40:57,455 It was nothing we didn'’t expect, Ollie. 964 00:40:59,195 --> 00:41:01,241 Let'’s just focus on the sentencing and, uh, 965 00:41:01,241 --> 00:41:02,938 at least try to save his life. 966 00:41:02,938 --> 00:41:07,639 For what it'’s worth, I think you did a great job. 967 00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,468 Yeah, well, in the end, it wasn'’t worth much, was it? 968 00:41:12,818 --> 00:41:14,820 Listen, Cassie, I'’m no shrink. 969 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:16,212 Thank God for that. 970 00:41:16,212 --> 00:41:18,824 It just seems to me like you'’re bottling 971 00:41:18,824 --> 00:41:20,478 a lot of stuff up on this one. 972 00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:22,654 This isn'’t a wave. 973 00:41:22,654 --> 00:41:24,133 You can'’t just ride it out. 974 00:41:24,133 --> 00:41:25,483 I'’m fine. 975 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,485 No, you'’re not. 976 00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:28,834 Yes, I am. 977 00:41:28,834 --> 00:41:31,053 You had a lousy couple of weeks. 978 00:41:32,098 --> 00:41:35,144 Yes, I have. 979 00:41:35,144 --> 00:41:37,146 This job really, really sucks, 980 00:41:37,146 --> 00:41:41,586 and I wish I'’d never left the prosecutor'’s office. 981 00:41:45,894 --> 00:41:47,983 If there'’s anything you need, you let me know. 982 00:41:47,983 --> 00:41:50,203 Thanks. 983 00:41:54,424 --> 00:41:56,601 Ollie? 984 00:42:00,474 --> 00:42:02,781 Maybe a beer. 985 00:42:04,652 --> 00:42:05,740 [sighs] 986 00:42:14,749 --> 00:42:18,274 Captioning sponsored by WARNER BROS. 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