1 00:00:10,271 --> 00:00:12,577 Just put the lunch meeting at 1:00.Sure. 2 00:00:12,577 --> 00:00:14,753 Okay.[door opens] 3 00:00:14,753 --> 00:00:18,279 Well, well, well, decided to jump ship after all? 4 00:00:18,279 --> 00:00:21,499 I came because you said you had an emergency of sorts. 5 00:00:21,499 --> 00:00:23,893 Oh, right, I lied about that, sorry. 6 00:00:23,893 --> 00:00:25,590 I do have another case though. 7 00:00:25,590 --> 00:00:28,376 A little over my head. Could use some back up. 8 00:00:28,376 --> 00:00:30,073 [sighs] What kind of case? 9 00:00:30,073 --> 00:00:31,727 WOMAN: Phoebe? 10 00:00:31,727 --> 00:00:33,468 Is there a bathroom? 11 00:00:33,468 --> 00:00:35,513 Yep, right straight through there. 12 00:00:35,513 --> 00:00:37,080 Oh, this is Adam Branch, by the way. 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,734 He'’ll be joining us. 14 00:00:38,734 --> 00:00:40,388 Oh, okay, hi. 15 00:00:45,436 --> 00:00:47,090 Why does she look familiar? 16 00:00:47,090 --> 00:00:49,745 Uh, she was on that reality show, It Takes Two, 17 00:00:49,745 --> 00:00:51,616 the one that shoots here in Cincy. 18 00:00:51,616 --> 00:00:53,662 She'’s the one whose husband took his life. 19 00:00:53,662 --> 00:00:55,881 She'’s now being sued by the husband'’s family, 20 00:00:55,881 --> 00:00:57,013 whose trial is about to start. 21 00:00:57,013 --> 00:00:58,188 She hired you? 22 00:00:58,188 --> 00:01:00,016 People do hire me. 23 00:01:00,016 --> 00:01:04,325 No, I just meant, it'’s a pretty high profile case for a solo. 24 00:01:04,325 --> 00:01:06,109 Well, she had another lawyer defending her 25 00:01:06,109 --> 00:01:07,632 but now she suddenly lost faith. 26 00:01:07,632 --> 00:01:09,939 Evidently, he wants her to settle. 27 00:01:09,939 --> 00:01:11,636 I'’m meeting him after lunch. 28 00:01:11,636 --> 00:01:14,596 Join me? If I take this over, I'’m going to need help. 29 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:29,001 Excuse me, excuse me! 30 00:01:29,001 --> 00:01:30,612 I was wondering if you could help me. 31 00:01:30,612 --> 00:01:32,222 No, I don'’t know anything about the shoes. 32 00:01:32,222 --> 00:01:33,658 You talk to the skinny people. 33 00:01:33,658 --> 00:01:35,704 No, actually, I may need a lawyer. 34 00:01:35,704 --> 00:01:38,750 I think the police might be after me. 35 00:01:38,750 --> 00:01:42,102 See, I sort of ran away. 36 00:01:42,102 --> 00:01:44,147 From what? 37 00:01:44,147 --> 00:01:46,715 The jury I was serving on. 38 00:01:48,543 --> 00:01:50,545 We were sequestered for two months during the trial, 39 00:01:50,545 --> 00:01:52,373 and we'’d been deliberating for over... 40 00:01:52,373 --> 00:01:54,505 Oh, don'’t tell me anything about deliberations. 41 00:01:54,505 --> 00:01:56,028 Oh, okay. Sorry. 42 00:01:56,028 --> 00:01:57,726 Uh, but it got to the point where 43 00:01:57,726 --> 00:01:59,075 I just couldn'’t take it anymore. 44 00:01:59,075 --> 00:02:00,511 Oh, did you tell the judge? 45 00:02:00,511 --> 00:02:02,557 Yeah, I sent a note out, but all the alternates 46 00:02:02,557 --> 00:02:03,732 had been used up at that time, 47 00:02:03,732 --> 00:02:05,125 so he said I had to stick it out. 48 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:06,604 But I couldn'’t. I just couldn'’t. 49 00:02:06,604 --> 00:02:07,953 So, a few days ago... 50 00:02:07,953 --> 00:02:11,000 A few days ago? Yes... 51 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,133 Hey, free for lunch later? 52 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:15,483 Uh, it'’s starting to be a busy day, Tommy. 53 00:02:15,483 --> 00:02:17,224 Got it. 54 00:02:17,224 --> 00:02:22,185 So, a few days ago, I snuck out of the hotel and I left. 55 00:02:22,185 --> 00:02:24,056 Oy. Who'’s the judge? 56 00:02:24,056 --> 00:02:25,928 Uh, Judge Lester Babcock. 57 00:02:25,928 --> 00:02:28,409 Babcock. Never heard of him. 58 00:02:28,409 --> 00:02:31,194 He'’s that guy when he gets upset, he stands and he paces. 59 00:02:31,194 --> 00:02:32,978 Haven'’t they come looking for you? 60 00:02:32,978 --> 00:02:34,197 I don'’t know. I'’ve been hiding 61 00:02:34,197 --> 00:02:35,981 in my cousin'’s basement. 62 00:02:35,981 --> 00:02:38,723 Brianna, I'’ll level with you, I'’ve never even heard 63 00:02:38,723 --> 00:02:40,116 of anybody doing what you did, 64 00:02:40,116 --> 00:02:41,683 but my gut tells me 65 00:02:41,683 --> 00:02:43,119 you'’re in a lot of trouble. 66 00:02:43,119 --> 00:02:44,294 Thought I recognized her. 67 00:02:44,294 --> 00:02:45,904 This case is all over the news. 68 00:02:45,904 --> 00:02:48,646 She'’s the Runaway Juror. 69 00:02:48,646 --> 00:02:50,561 My advice would be 70 00:02:50,561 --> 00:02:51,736 to turn yourself in immediately. 71 00:02:51,736 --> 00:02:53,129 No. Uh-uh. I can'’t. 72 00:02:53,129 --> 00:02:54,304 I can'’t go back there. 73 00:02:54,304 --> 00:02:56,132 Brianna, you have to. 74 00:02:56,132 --> 00:02:59,091 Alone? 75 00:02:59,091 --> 00:03:01,181 You want me to go back there without a lawyer? 76 00:03:04,836 --> 00:03:07,099 [groans] 77 00:03:12,409 --> 00:03:15,195 [phone rings] 78 00:03:17,066 --> 00:03:19,155 [ringing stops] 79 00:03:19,155 --> 00:03:21,244 [phone ringing] 80 00:03:21,244 --> 00:03:23,290 I got it. 81 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:24,856 Can we get rid of that thing? 82 00:03:24,856 --> 00:03:25,944 I turned it off. 83 00:03:25,944 --> 00:03:28,817 HARRY: Oh, no, you didn'’t. 84 00:03:30,384 --> 00:03:32,037 Pick up your iPad, Cassie. 85 00:03:32,037 --> 00:03:34,605 Pick up you iPad now, 86 00:03:34,605 --> 00:03:36,738 and look at me! 87 00:03:37,565 --> 00:03:39,219 Shh! 88 00:03:40,524 --> 00:03:43,092 God, I love Skype. 89 00:03:43,092 --> 00:03:44,789 Let me talk to Ollie. 90 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:47,705 Hey, Harry, how'’s it going? 91 00:03:47,705 --> 00:03:51,622 New rule: All conjugal visits end by 8 a.m. 92 00:03:51,622 --> 00:03:53,276 so you'’re in here by 9:00. 93 00:03:53,276 --> 00:03:55,147 Cassie? 94 00:03:55,147 --> 00:03:57,237 I need you to do some research for me 95 00:03:57,237 --> 00:03:59,761 on criminal liability for skipping out on a jury. 96 00:03:59,761 --> 00:04:01,241 Hey, Cassie. 97 00:04:01,241 --> 00:04:02,894 I think they just threw me 98 00:04:02,894 --> 00:04:04,374 in the corner. Hello? 99 00:04:04,374 --> 00:04:06,463 Hello? 100 00:04:06,463 --> 00:04:08,726 Were they naked? 101 00:04:18,823 --> 00:04:20,347 MAN: You do not want a trial. 102 00:04:20,347 --> 00:04:22,523 If the alternative is I plead guilty... 103 00:04:22,523 --> 00:04:24,438 Tina, I never said that you should plead guilty. 104 00:04:24,438 --> 00:04:26,309 Yes, you did.That'’s a criminal term. 105 00:04:26,309 --> 00:04:28,224 You haven'’t been charged with a crime. 106 00:04:28,224 --> 00:04:29,399 I keep telling you 107 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:31,836 wrongful death is a civil action. 108 00:04:31,836 --> 00:04:34,012 What I said, simply, 109 00:04:34,012 --> 00:04:35,275 is that you should settle. 110 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:36,928 Which means admit that it'’s my fault 111 00:04:36,928 --> 00:04:38,495 that my husband killed himself. 112 00:04:38,495 --> 00:04:40,149 If you go to trial you could 113 00:04:40,149 --> 00:04:41,585 easily be slapped with a million dollar judgment. 114 00:04:41,585 --> 00:04:43,326 You will lose everything you have. 115 00:04:43,326 --> 00:04:44,893 Hold on a second. As far as assets, 116 00:04:44,893 --> 00:04:46,590 what are we talking about? You own a house? 117 00:04:46,590 --> 00:04:48,418 Yes. Me and Eliot had a house 118 00:04:48,418 --> 00:04:50,986 and I have a little over a million dollars in the bank. 119 00:04:50,986 --> 00:04:53,467 A million d... you have a million dollars? 120 00:04:53,467 --> 00:04:55,512 Well, I get $70,000 an episode. 121 00:04:55,512 --> 00:04:58,210 Eliot got 62-five, it'’s all community property. 122 00:04:58,210 --> 00:05:00,952 So between you, you were making over $130,000 123 00:05:00,952 --> 00:05:02,998 an episode on this stupid show? 124 00:05:02,998 --> 00:05:04,304 Thanks for the compliment. 125 00:05:04,304 --> 00:05:05,653 But, yeah. 126 00:05:05,653 --> 00:05:06,958 BROUSSARD: Which is why I strongly maintain 127 00:05:06,958 --> 00:05:08,395 you should settle. 128 00:05:08,395 --> 00:05:10,484 You will not make for a sympathetic defender. 129 00:05:10,484 --> 00:05:11,789 This... 130 00:05:11,789 --> 00:05:13,965 is why I want to replace him. 131 00:05:17,055 --> 00:05:19,884 Do you know what this case was about, Ms. Korn? 132 00:05:21,277 --> 00:05:23,584 Yes, Your Honor, it was a murder trial and... 133 00:05:23,584 --> 00:05:25,673 It was about more than just a murder! 134 00:05:25,673 --> 00:05:28,893 I stand corrected. 135 00:05:28,893 --> 00:05:31,592 It was about extra sheriff'’s deputies, 136 00:05:31,592 --> 00:05:34,203 housing out of town expert witnesses. 137 00:05:34,203 --> 00:05:35,378 It was about 138 00:05:35,378 --> 00:05:37,075 the costs of sequestration. 139 00:05:37,075 --> 00:05:40,035 Room, board, transportation. 140 00:05:40,035 --> 00:05:41,515 Laundry! 141 00:05:41,515 --> 00:05:42,777 It was about 142 00:05:42,777 --> 00:05:44,605 six months of investigation. 143 00:05:44,605 --> 00:05:46,911 Three months of pre-trial proceedings. 144 00:05:46,911 --> 00:05:49,349 Two months of trial. 145 00:05:50,915 --> 00:05:52,743 It was about $4 million. 146 00:05:52,743 --> 00:05:54,092 And that'’s exclusive 147 00:05:54,092 --> 00:05:55,703 of the personal costs. 148 00:05:55,703 --> 00:05:57,095 You seem upset. 149 00:05:57,095 --> 00:05:58,270 Oh, do I? 150 00:05:58,270 --> 00:06:01,361 This trial was a wrenching ordeal! 151 00:06:01,361 --> 00:06:03,232 We have testimony from victims 152 00:06:03,232 --> 00:06:05,016 who were beaten, 153 00:06:05,016 --> 00:06:06,409 raped... 154 00:06:06,409 --> 00:06:08,368 their son was murdered. 155 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:09,934 It was enormously 156 00:06:09,934 --> 00:06:12,067 stressful for those witnesses to come forward, 157 00:06:12,067 --> 00:06:13,373 but they did. 158 00:06:13,373 --> 00:06:15,070 The money, the time... 159 00:06:15,070 --> 00:06:17,115 the huge emotional hardships 160 00:06:17,115 --> 00:06:18,769 on everyone connected with this case, 161 00:06:18,769 --> 00:06:21,381 and now we have to go through it all over again, 162 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:22,904 and it is all her fault! 163 00:06:22,904 --> 00:06:24,427 HARRY: Judge... 164 00:06:24,427 --> 00:06:26,777 I reviewed this file and it, um, 165 00:06:26,777 --> 00:06:28,649 it looks like you were headed 166 00:06:28,649 --> 00:06:30,041 for a hung jury. 167 00:06:30,041 --> 00:06:31,782 That is not true! 168 00:06:31,782 --> 00:06:33,131 It was ten to two to convict 169 00:06:33,131 --> 00:06:34,524 when she took off. 170 00:06:34,524 --> 00:06:36,308 Maybe in another day or two 171 00:06:36,308 --> 00:06:38,702 she would'’ve come to her senses and we wouldn'’t have... 172 00:06:38,702 --> 00:06:40,791 All you proved was that Lee Michaels was a bad guy. 173 00:06:40,791 --> 00:06:42,793 You didn'’t prove...I don'’t want 174 00:06:42,793 --> 00:06:45,143 to hear one word out of you! 175 00:06:45,143 --> 00:06:47,494 Don'’t yell at our client! 176 00:06:48,973 --> 00:06:51,411 If you don'’t feel like it. 177 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:53,456 Your client... 178 00:06:53,456 --> 00:06:55,153 belongs in jail. 179 00:06:55,153 --> 00:06:56,807 She'’s a criminal. 180 00:06:56,807 --> 00:06:58,505 It is my intent to put her there. 181 00:06:58,505 --> 00:07:00,768 She'’s in contempt. 182 00:07:00,768 --> 00:07:02,683 Take her away. 183 00:07:02,683 --> 00:07:04,293 Actually, Judge, if you'’re gonna hold 184 00:07:04,293 --> 00:07:06,861 our client in contempt, she'’d like 185 00:07:06,861 --> 00:07:07,949 her day in court. 186 00:07:07,949 --> 00:07:09,690 What? 187 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:11,169 Due process. 188 00:07:11,169 --> 00:07:13,694 She'’d like to be heard on the contempt charge. 189 00:07:13,694 --> 00:07:16,044 She wants a contempt trial, is that what you'’re telling me? 190 00:07:16,044 --> 00:07:18,263 Well, she certainly doesn'’t want to be locked up. 191 00:07:18,263 --> 00:07:19,308 Fine. 192 00:07:19,308 --> 00:07:20,788 You want a trial? 193 00:07:22,485 --> 00:07:23,791 We'’ll give her a trial. 194 00:07:26,663 --> 00:07:28,056 ♪ ♪ 195 00:07:30,145 --> 00:07:31,320 We'’ll get killed. 196 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,930 No, we won'’t. 197 00:07:32,930 --> 00:07:35,106 Phoebe, I wasn'’t up to speed before on this show, 198 00:07:35,106 --> 00:07:36,586 I am now, 199 00:07:36,586 --> 00:07:38,719 Tina makes that Snooki seem like a choir girl. 200 00:07:38,719 --> 00:07:40,547 That'’s just how the show presents her. 201 00:07:40,547 --> 00:07:42,331 But it'’s how the jury will perceive her. 202 00:07:42,331 --> 00:07:44,159 Until we change that. 203 00:07:47,249 --> 00:07:49,556 Do you realize how much media'’s gonna be in that room? 204 00:07:49,556 --> 00:07:51,949 Which we'’re not afraid of, right? 205 00:07:51,949 --> 00:07:54,604 Phoebe, we'’re pretty good, but we'’re kids. 206 00:07:54,604 --> 00:07:57,912 Look, there are a few victims in this story. 207 00:07:57,912 --> 00:08:00,349 Our job will be to make the jury see 208 00:08:00,349 --> 00:08:02,220 that Tina is one of them. 209 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:04,701 Have you seen this file? It won'’t be easy. 210 00:08:04,701 --> 00:08:06,660 Which is why I asked for back up. 211 00:08:08,531 --> 00:08:10,664 Are you in or out? 212 00:08:11,795 --> 00:08:13,667 In. 213 00:08:19,237 --> 00:08:21,109 WOMAN: My brother would'’ve never, ever wanted 214 00:08:21,109 --> 00:08:22,545 to go on that program, 215 00:08:22,545 --> 00:08:24,416 or any reality show for that matter. 216 00:08:24,416 --> 00:08:26,549 Well, why did he agree to do it then? 217 00:08:26,549 --> 00:08:28,203 Because she influenced him to. 218 00:08:28,203 --> 00:08:30,597 She made him do it because she has this 219 00:08:30,597 --> 00:08:32,903 need to draw attention to herself. 220 00:08:32,903 --> 00:08:36,037 A reality show was not his style. 221 00:08:36,037 --> 00:08:38,082 Okay, but he did go on one. 222 00:08:38,082 --> 00:08:40,607 Yes, he did, after which 223 00:08:40,607 --> 00:08:42,391 he was the object of public ridicule, 224 00:08:42,391 --> 00:08:44,045 often at her hand. 225 00:08:44,045 --> 00:08:46,090 She belittled him 226 00:08:46,090 --> 00:08:47,614 on national TV. 227 00:08:47,614 --> 00:08:49,920 Humiliated him, emasculated him... 228 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,313 it was abusive. 229 00:08:51,313 --> 00:08:53,968 Eliot is not what we would call a lover. 230 00:08:53,968 --> 00:08:56,492 If I was looking 231 00:08:56,492 --> 00:08:59,582 for a man to make all my fantasies come true, 232 00:08:59,582 --> 00:09:01,279 Eliot... 233 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:02,977 [laughs] 234 00:09:02,977 --> 00:09:05,762 I'’m sorry. 235 00:09:05,762 --> 00:09:07,808 No, I shouldn'’t. 236 00:09:07,808 --> 00:09:10,071 [laughs] 237 00:09:10,071 --> 00:09:13,814 I'’m sorry. I'’m sorry. I'’m sorry. 238 00:09:13,814 --> 00:09:15,119 You could play a hundred different versions 239 00:09:15,119 --> 00:09:16,251 of that scene. 240 00:09:16,251 --> 00:09:18,296 She was unrelenting. 241 00:09:18,296 --> 00:09:21,648 Finally he just couldn'’t take it anymore. 242 00:09:21,648 --> 00:09:23,911 PHOEBE : Why do you think Eliot married Tina? 243 00:09:23,911 --> 00:09:25,477 Any idea? 244 00:09:25,477 --> 00:09:26,914 Well... 245 00:09:26,914 --> 00:09:29,133 I think that he was a bit spellbound, 246 00:09:29,133 --> 00:09:30,570 to be honest. 247 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:32,484 Do you think he loved her? 248 00:09:32,484 --> 00:09:35,313 Yeah, I think he did. 249 00:09:35,313 --> 00:09:38,969 Which made his pain so much more. 250 00:09:38,969 --> 00:09:41,319 To hear the things that she would say about him, 251 00:09:41,319 --> 00:09:43,365 on television, no less. 252 00:09:43,365 --> 00:09:46,237 Did your brother ever get psychological treatment? 253 00:09:46,237 --> 00:09:47,674 Yes. 254 00:09:47,674 --> 00:09:49,110 Do you know what for? 255 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:51,591 He had some esteem issues. 256 00:09:51,591 --> 00:09:53,244 He was kind of a fragile guy. 257 00:09:53,244 --> 00:09:54,376 Which was another reason 258 00:09:54,376 --> 00:09:55,943 she shouldn'’t have abused him. 259 00:09:55,943 --> 00:09:59,294 She knew about his psychological deficits. 260 00:09:59,294 --> 00:10:01,122 Did you? 261 00:10:02,993 --> 00:10:04,516 I imagine his family had some sense 262 00:10:04,516 --> 00:10:06,606 of his psychological deficits. 263 00:10:06,606 --> 00:10:08,695 Did you ever try 264 00:10:08,695 --> 00:10:10,566 to stop him from going on the show. 265 00:10:11,567 --> 00:10:14,091 I wish that we had. 266 00:10:15,832 --> 00:10:17,791 I wish that we had. 267 00:10:30,542 --> 00:10:31,761 How'’d you get this case? 268 00:10:31,761 --> 00:10:33,110 I told you. It'’s Phoebe'’s. 269 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:35,635 Well, why would she call you instead of me? 270 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:36,853 I am a reality show. 271 00:10:36,853 --> 00:10:38,376 Yeah, maybe you'’re too on the nose. 272 00:10:38,376 --> 00:10:40,204 It figures to last two or three days, tops. 273 00:10:40,204 --> 00:10:42,424 Adam, you sure you want to do this? 274 00:10:42,424 --> 00:10:44,165 You could walking into a firestorm. 275 00:10:44,165 --> 00:10:45,557 Give it to me, I'’m good with firestorms. 276 00:10:45,557 --> 00:10:47,429 You'’re in trial with me, remember? 277 00:10:47,429 --> 00:10:48,517 Yeah, I'’d rather have his. 278 00:10:48,517 --> 00:10:49,518 Well, you don'’t get it. 279 00:10:50,432 --> 00:10:51,738 What'’d you find out? 280 00:10:51,738 --> 00:10:53,217 Not much. 281 00:10:53,217 --> 00:10:54,784 Not a whole lot of precedents with runaway jurors. 282 00:10:54,784 --> 00:10:55,872 End of the day, you'’re gonna be 283 00:10:55,872 --> 00:10:57,004 at the mercy of the judge. 284 00:10:57,004 --> 00:10:58,832 That'’s what worries me. 285 00:10:58,832 --> 00:11:01,225 This judge'’s cup doesn'’t seem to runneth over with mercy. 286 00:11:01,225 --> 00:11:02,749 You contact the shrink? 287 00:11:02,749 --> 00:11:04,315 There'’s nothing wrong with me. 288 00:11:05,882 --> 00:11:08,015 For our expert testimony? 289 00:11:08,015 --> 00:11:09,494 Oh, yeah, we'’re all set there. 290 00:11:09,494 --> 00:11:10,974 His case should have come to me. 291 00:11:10,974 --> 00:11:12,367 Tommy. 292 00:11:12,367 --> 00:11:14,108 TINA: I never should have married you! 293 00:11:14,108 --> 00:11:16,893 You ruined my life! 294 00:11:16,893 --> 00:11:18,329 [sobbing] 295 00:11:18,329 --> 00:11:20,549 This is me stepping on you, 296 00:11:20,549 --> 00:11:22,769 '’cause you'’re a bug, you'’re a [bleep] smashed bug 297 00:11:22,769 --> 00:11:24,422 under my shoe, that'’s what you are. 298 00:11:24,422 --> 00:11:25,423 You married 299 00:11:25,423 --> 00:11:26,903 these. 300 00:11:26,903 --> 00:11:28,209 This is what you married. 301 00:11:28,209 --> 00:11:31,429 You said "I do" and "I do" to two [bleep]s, 302 00:11:31,429 --> 00:11:33,867 and I am more than just two [bleep]s, Eliot! 303 00:11:34,911 --> 00:11:37,305 All this gets admitted next 304 00:11:37,305 --> 00:11:39,829 and then a lot more of the same. 305 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:43,267 You have to understand, they kept all the lowlights. 306 00:11:43,267 --> 00:11:44,965 There were highlights, too-- 307 00:11:44,965 --> 00:11:49,447 not as many of them, but they made me look worse than I am. 308 00:11:49,447 --> 00:11:52,015 Whenever Eliot and I were being nice to each other, 309 00:11:52,015 --> 00:11:53,582 they would stop rolling. 310 00:11:53,582 --> 00:11:56,498 Look, we have a defense, 311 00:11:56,498 --> 00:11:58,979 but our first line is your testimony. 312 00:11:58,979 --> 00:12:00,632 If the jury is to see you in a different light, 313 00:12:00,632 --> 00:12:02,330 it starts with you on the stand, 314 00:12:02,330 --> 00:12:04,636 which is why, over the next six hours, 315 00:12:04,636 --> 00:12:08,162 the three of us are going to spend a little quality time. 316 00:12:16,126 --> 00:12:18,476 You forget how much you take for granted-- 317 00:12:18,476 --> 00:12:21,523 all the little things-- being able to go outside, 318 00:12:21,523 --> 00:12:24,134 make a phone call, watch TV, read the paper, 319 00:12:24,134 --> 00:12:26,180 see other people. I couldn'’t see 320 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:29,749 my friends, my family, my boyfriend, nobody. 321 00:12:29,749 --> 00:12:31,925 It was all just starting to wear on me, I guess. 322 00:12:31,925 --> 00:12:33,404 And could you tell us about the events 323 00:12:33,404 --> 00:12:34,623 leading up to your running away? 324 00:12:34,623 --> 00:12:36,016 Okay. 325 00:12:36,016 --> 00:12:37,365 From the start it was clear that there were 326 00:12:37,365 --> 00:12:39,671 eight votes for guilty and four for not guilty. 327 00:12:39,671 --> 00:12:41,630 I was one of the not guilty votes, 328 00:12:41,630 --> 00:12:43,414 and then two 329 00:12:43,414 --> 00:12:45,634 of the not guilties caved in, so then there were just two of us 330 00:12:45,634 --> 00:12:47,375 left holding out. 331 00:12:49,333 --> 00:12:52,119 So we'’d be in there and we'’d talk 332 00:12:52,119 --> 00:12:54,643 and we'’d take a vote, 333 00:12:54,643 --> 00:12:57,472 and then they would just start in on us. 334 00:12:57,472 --> 00:12:59,691 So you ran? 335 00:12:59,691 --> 00:13:00,823 Not yet, 336 00:13:00,823 --> 00:13:02,346 but at one point 337 00:13:02,346 --> 00:13:06,437 someone-- I don'’t know who-- said, 338 00:13:06,437 --> 00:13:07,787 "No one is going to hurt you," 339 00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:09,353 and that really got to me, 340 00:13:09,353 --> 00:13:13,009 you know, the fact that hurting me was even mentioned. 341 00:13:13,009 --> 00:13:14,837 So you ran? 342 00:13:14,837 --> 00:13:16,012 Not yet, 343 00:13:16,012 --> 00:13:17,753 but my anxiety was getting worse 344 00:13:17,753 --> 00:13:21,104 with all the pressure that they were... 345 00:13:23,150 --> 00:13:24,891 Oh, God. 346 00:13:24,891 --> 00:13:27,545 At one point I, I thought about suicide. 347 00:13:27,545 --> 00:13:29,156 And then what happened? 348 00:13:29,156 --> 00:13:31,158 A couple of hours later they came to get me 349 00:13:31,158 --> 00:13:34,204 and they brought me to the courthouse to see him-- 350 00:13:34,204 --> 00:13:38,208 you-- in chambers... 351 00:13:38,208 --> 00:13:40,907 and he-- 352 00:13:40,907 --> 00:13:42,734 well, you told me about all the time 353 00:13:42,734 --> 00:13:44,606 and the money that had gone into the trial 354 00:13:44,606 --> 00:13:46,782 and how there weren'’t any alternates left 355 00:13:46,782 --> 00:13:48,871 and how it would be a shame to have come 356 00:13:48,871 --> 00:13:52,092 this far and to go home without a verdict, 357 00:13:52,092 --> 00:13:54,529 and I just started to feel sick because I could see 358 00:13:54,529 --> 00:13:57,401 what was happening. 359 00:13:57,401 --> 00:13:58,402 And I told him... 360 00:14:00,274 --> 00:14:05,018 "I really think I'’m going to die if you don'’t let me go." 361 00:14:08,064 --> 00:14:10,719 And you said... 362 00:14:10,719 --> 00:14:14,854 to take some deep breaths and to relax. 363 00:14:16,551 --> 00:14:18,814 And I could just see 364 00:14:18,814 --> 00:14:20,598 he wasn'’t taking me seriously, 365 00:14:20,598 --> 00:14:23,210 that they cared more about their trial than they did 366 00:14:23,210 --> 00:14:24,559 about my life. 367 00:14:24,559 --> 00:14:25,865 And then? 368 00:14:26,909 --> 00:14:28,868 I ran. 369 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:33,611 And you can see how you caused 370 00:14:33,611 --> 00:14:35,787 a great deal of hardship by running away. 371 00:14:35,787 --> 00:14:37,572 I have never run away from anything. 372 00:14:37,572 --> 00:14:40,618 I am a fighter, 373 00:14:40,618 --> 00:14:45,493 but my life was falling apart, I had hit my breaking point. 374 00:14:46,494 --> 00:14:50,933 I am... sorry, I am so sorry, 375 00:14:50,933 --> 00:14:53,762 Your Honor, but... 376 00:14:56,591 --> 00:14:59,855 ...but I had to go. 377 00:15:18,308 --> 00:15:19,875 Can'’t we all just wait to hear 378 00:15:19,875 --> 00:15:23,705 what the lovely reality TV whore "Tina" has to say? 379 00:15:23,705 --> 00:15:25,837 I'’m sure she'’ll play the victim, 380 00:15:25,837 --> 00:15:28,884 all the while loving the attention-- 381 00:15:28,884 --> 00:15:31,234 the news trucks parked outside the courthouse, 382 00:15:31,234 --> 00:15:34,020 the lights, the microphones, blah, blah, blah. 383 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:36,109 Press treating you okay? 384 00:15:36,109 --> 00:15:38,502 What were you thinking, taking this dog? 385 00:15:38,502 --> 00:15:40,591 That'’s a very good question. 386 00:15:40,591 --> 00:15:44,508 If I were the Ohio prosecutor, I would file murder charges 387 00:15:44,508 --> 00:15:45,727 and haul in... 388 00:15:45,727 --> 00:15:47,120 I got to go. 389 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,556 I'’m late....those producers and charge 390 00:15:48,556 --> 00:15:49,992 them with aiding and abetting. 391 00:15:49,992 --> 00:15:51,689 Let'’s lock '’em all up 392 00:15:51,689 --> 00:15:53,039 and let them rot. 393 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:54,301 I got to go. 394 00:15:56,259 --> 00:15:59,045 Eliot never once expressed not wanting to do the show, 395 00:15:59,045 --> 00:16:00,698 at least not initially. 396 00:16:00,698 --> 00:16:03,266 Well, according to his sister, he told her that. 397 00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:05,790 Look, we both discussed the pros and the cons. 398 00:16:05,790 --> 00:16:06,878 The negative was being exploited. 399 00:16:06,878 --> 00:16:08,619 The positive was the money. 400 00:16:08,619 --> 00:16:10,273 We needed the money. 401 00:16:10,273 --> 00:16:12,058 And, yes, the attention-- 402 00:16:12,058 --> 00:16:15,626 the idea of being TV stars-- was very attractive. 403 00:16:15,626 --> 00:16:17,411 Did he want that as much as you? 404 00:16:17,411 --> 00:16:18,803 Probably not. 405 00:16:18,803 --> 00:16:20,718 But did I ever pressure or browbeat him? 406 00:16:20,718 --> 00:16:22,459 No. 407 00:16:22,459 --> 00:16:24,244 PHOEBE: Well, in those clips 408 00:16:24,244 --> 00:16:26,246 you did seem quite aggressive. 409 00:16:26,246 --> 00:16:28,074 They shoot hundreds and hundreds of hours. 410 00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:29,597 They don'’t use most of it, 411 00:16:29,597 --> 00:16:32,948 but when we would argue, obviously that makes it in. 412 00:16:32,948 --> 00:16:35,211 They want the drama, plus... 413 00:16:35,211 --> 00:16:36,430 Plus what? 414 00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:40,477 Well... we all play it up a bit. 415 00:16:40,477 --> 00:16:42,653 We know what they'’re looking for. 416 00:16:42,653 --> 00:16:46,179 We know why they'’ve chosen us to be on the show. 417 00:16:46,179 --> 00:16:47,702 Is it faked when we argue? No. 418 00:16:47,702 --> 00:16:48,833 But do we embellish 419 00:16:48,833 --> 00:16:51,140 and exaggerate our feelings? Yes. 420 00:16:51,140 --> 00:16:54,578 If we don'’t make an impression, we get cut from the cast. 421 00:16:54,578 --> 00:16:56,145 Tina, I'’m gonna be honest. 422 00:16:56,145 --> 00:16:58,756 You did seem like a bit of a monster. 423 00:16:58,756 --> 00:17:01,498 I realize that. 424 00:17:01,498 --> 00:17:03,283 Did you have any sense that he might cause harm to himself? 425 00:17:03,283 --> 00:17:04,806 Oh, God, no. 426 00:17:04,806 --> 00:17:09,419 I admit, Eliot would keep things bottled up inside, 427 00:17:09,419 --> 00:17:11,204 but there was, like, never any sign 428 00:17:11,204 --> 00:17:12,988 that he would slit his wrists. 429 00:17:12,988 --> 00:17:14,772 PHOEBE: And you said that initially 430 00:17:14,772 --> 00:17:16,992 he didn'’t resist going on the show. 431 00:17:16,992 --> 00:17:18,994 Did he resist at some point? 432 00:17:18,994 --> 00:17:21,214 Yes, after the first season 433 00:17:21,214 --> 00:17:23,303 he said we should think about leaving. 434 00:17:23,303 --> 00:17:25,609 It was putting a lot of pressure on our marriage 435 00:17:25,609 --> 00:17:29,700 and on us individually, but we both decided 436 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:30,832 that we'’d made it through the first season 437 00:17:30,832 --> 00:17:32,660 with almost no money. 438 00:17:32,660 --> 00:17:35,402 Why would we leave now, when we were just starting to get paid? 439 00:17:37,012 --> 00:17:39,188 You convinced Eliot to stay, isn'’t that right? 440 00:17:39,188 --> 00:17:41,147 We both agreed to stay on, 441 00:17:41,147 --> 00:17:42,844 and they probably would have kept me anyway 442 00:17:42,844 --> 00:17:44,846 '’cause I was the most popular character. 443 00:17:44,846 --> 00:17:47,457 Because you were the bitch, the one everyone loved to hate. 444 00:17:47,457 --> 00:17:48,502 That seemed to be true then 445 00:17:48,502 --> 00:17:49,894 and it seems so now, Mr. Choi. 446 00:17:49,894 --> 00:17:52,071 And being the bitch meant verbally abusing 447 00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:53,898 your husband in front of a national audience? 448 00:17:53,898 --> 00:17:56,510 Eliot and I could get into it on our own, 449 00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:57,815 but, yes, as I said, 450 00:17:57,815 --> 00:17:59,861 I would ratchet things up for the cameras. 451 00:17:59,861 --> 00:18:01,210 And you had an affair with another man 452 00:18:01,210 --> 00:18:02,472 on camera. 453 00:18:02,472 --> 00:18:03,691 It was not an affair. 454 00:18:03,691 --> 00:18:06,085 I kissed a man while I was inebriated. 455 00:18:08,522 --> 00:18:10,176 [music playing over television] 456 00:18:10,176 --> 00:18:11,525 Tina, 457 00:18:11,525 --> 00:18:12,700 you'’re married. 458 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:13,744 Not tonight I'’m not. Oh. 459 00:18:13,744 --> 00:18:14,745 Wow. 460 00:18:17,357 --> 00:18:19,359 I was very drunk 461 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,057 in that situation. 462 00:18:22,057 --> 00:18:25,191 I know that'’s not an excuse. 463 00:18:25,191 --> 00:18:26,844 [music playing over television] 464 00:18:26,844 --> 00:18:28,846 [cheering] 465 00:18:41,076 --> 00:18:42,469 Were you drunk here, too? 466 00:18:42,469 --> 00:18:44,471 Yes. 467 00:18:46,037 --> 00:18:48,039 I'’m trailer trash. 468 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:49,215 I'’m not proud of it. 469 00:18:49,215 --> 00:18:50,216 I drank too much 470 00:18:50,216 --> 00:18:52,566 and I did things I regret. 471 00:18:52,566 --> 00:18:54,394 One of the reasons why I drank a lot 472 00:18:54,394 --> 00:18:55,743 is because the producers kept putting us 473 00:18:55,743 --> 00:18:56,700 in situations with alcohol. 474 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:58,572 They want us 475 00:18:58,572 --> 00:19:01,575 to drink a lot '’cause it makes for better TV. 476 00:19:01,575 --> 00:19:03,446 So it'’s the producers'’ fault. 477 00:19:03,446 --> 00:19:05,405 They made you kiss another man, they made you 478 00:19:05,405 --> 00:19:07,233 dance naked on the bar. 479 00:19:07,233 --> 00:19:09,452 I didn'’t say that.They made you call Eliot a smashed bug. 480 00:19:09,452 --> 00:19:10,540 I didn'’t say that! 481 00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:11,541 You didn'’t call your husband 482 00:19:11,541 --> 00:19:13,108 a smashed bug? 483 00:19:13,108 --> 00:19:14,718 I didn'’t say 484 00:19:14,718 --> 00:19:16,285 that the producers made me do 485 00:19:16,285 --> 00:19:18,113 all that. 486 00:19:18,113 --> 00:19:21,072 No, they just gave you alcohol... 487 00:19:21,072 --> 00:19:23,205 and that was enough. 488 00:19:23,205 --> 00:19:25,729 The inner you came out. 489 00:19:32,736 --> 00:19:34,608 At first I liked Brianna, I really did, 490 00:19:34,608 --> 00:19:36,784 but when we started deliberating... 491 00:19:36,784 --> 00:19:39,090 She claims you all were furious with her. 492 00:19:39,090 --> 00:19:40,091 We were. 493 00:19:40,091 --> 00:19:41,354 She held us up. 494 00:19:41,354 --> 00:19:42,964 We all wanted to go home, 495 00:19:42,964 --> 00:19:45,009 we all wanted to see our families, only we couldn'’t 496 00:19:45,009 --> 00:19:46,663 because of her and the other holdout. 497 00:19:46,663 --> 00:19:49,753 Well, maybe she didn'’t think that he was guilty. 498 00:19:49,753 --> 00:19:50,754 Because she was out of her mind. 499 00:19:50,754 --> 00:19:52,016 I'’m sorry, 500 00:19:52,016 --> 00:19:53,975 I will not feel sorry for that woman. 501 00:19:53,975 --> 00:19:56,412 She caused a lot of people a lot of stress. 502 00:19:56,412 --> 00:19:57,935 Did you all pressure her? 503 00:19:57,935 --> 00:19:59,763 Yes, to see reason, 504 00:19:59,763 --> 00:20:01,461 but she wouldn'’t. 505 00:20:01,461 --> 00:20:03,680 Truth be told, I think she wanted to punish us. 506 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,508 Why would she do that?We all thought 507 00:20:05,508 --> 00:20:08,163 she complained too much and some of us told her, 508 00:20:08,163 --> 00:20:10,252 so I think, to pay us back, 509 00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:11,645 she decided to just be obstinate 510 00:20:11,645 --> 00:20:13,734 and make everyone suffer, 511 00:20:13,734 --> 00:20:15,170 and she got her wish because, in the end, we all hated 512 00:20:15,170 --> 00:20:16,650 being there as much as she did. 513 00:20:16,650 --> 00:20:19,870 Did the other jurors become hostile to her? 514 00:20:19,870 --> 00:20:23,178 Maybe some, but she had it coming. 515 00:20:23,178 --> 00:20:25,702 Look what she'’s done-- everybody loses. 516 00:20:25,702 --> 00:20:28,357 Mrs. Flick, can we talk about some of the conditions 517 00:20:28,357 --> 00:20:30,533 during your sequestration? 518 00:20:30,533 --> 00:20:34,320 They were horrible, but they were horrible for all of us. 519 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,452 She was the only one who took off. 520 00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:39,760 That didn'’t go well. 521 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,980 Hey, listen, you did all you could with her. 522 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:43,981 BRIANNA: So... 523 00:20:43,981 --> 00:20:45,853 now what happens? 524 00:20:45,853 --> 00:20:48,203 Well, uh, we'’ll put your doctor on the stand. 525 00:20:48,203 --> 00:20:49,204 You ready with him? 526 00:20:49,204 --> 00:20:50,858 Will be. 527 00:20:50,858 --> 00:20:53,164 Is it really fair that this judge is the decider on this? 528 00:20:53,164 --> 00:20:54,340 I mean, he'’s got an ax to grind. 529 00:20:54,340 --> 00:20:57,038 Can he really be objective? 530 00:20:57,038 --> 00:20:59,867 Probably not, but he'’s the judge we got, Brianna. 531 00:20:59,867 --> 00:21:02,435 I'’m really looking at prison time, aren'’t I? 532 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:19,408 So are you saying we'’re beat? 533 00:21:19,408 --> 00:21:21,149 ADAM: We still have some witnesses to call, 534 00:21:21,149 --> 00:21:25,371 but, yes, I'’m smelling a big disaster here. 535 00:21:25,371 --> 00:21:27,503 This jury could be thinking, "At last, 536 00:21:27,503 --> 00:21:29,505 someone finally gets to give it to Tina." 537 00:21:29,505 --> 00:21:31,072 If we can still get out for $500,000... 538 00:21:31,072 --> 00:21:34,293 No. I was the best thing that ever happened to Eliot. 539 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:36,338 He told me so. 540 00:21:36,338 --> 00:21:38,514 His life became exciting because of me, 541 00:21:38,514 --> 00:21:40,951 and he was the best thing that ever happened to me! 542 00:21:40,951 --> 00:21:42,779 [voice breaking]: I loved him, and he'’s... 543 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:47,610 I will not be blamed for his committing suicide. 544 00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:49,525 It isn'’t fair. 545 00:21:49,525 --> 00:21:50,831 You might lose your house. 546 00:21:50,831 --> 00:21:52,398 I don'’t care. 547 00:21:52,398 --> 00:21:54,965 I started with nothing, and I'’ll go back to that. 548 00:21:54,965 --> 00:21:57,533 But I will not be labeled as the person who... 549 00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:01,668 Let'’s just keep going. 550 00:22:01,668 --> 00:22:03,496 [sniffles] 551 00:22:03,496 --> 00:22:06,586 Come on, Ollie. You don'’t share with your old friend Tommy? 552 00:22:06,586 --> 00:22:08,457 You and Cassie. 553 00:22:10,024 --> 00:22:11,852 She'’s a dynamo, isn'’t she? 554 00:22:13,244 --> 00:22:15,943 Yeah, she'’s got that look. 555 00:22:15,943 --> 00:22:17,205 CASSIE: What look, Tommy? 556 00:22:17,205 --> 00:22:18,032 Huh? 557 00:22:19,076 --> 00:22:20,556 Oh, Ollie and I were just... 558 00:22:20,556 --> 00:22:21,731 chewing the fat. 559 00:22:21,731 --> 00:22:23,385 Right, Ollie? Yeah. 560 00:22:23,385 --> 00:22:25,692 Tommy wants to know how you are in the sack. 561 00:22:25,692 --> 00:22:27,563 Tommy. 562 00:22:27,563 --> 00:22:29,348 You really need to ask? 563 00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:31,045 You know I'’m good. 564 00:22:31,045 --> 00:22:33,656 The question isn'’t whether it'’s good for Ollie. 565 00:22:35,049 --> 00:22:37,181 The real issue is... 566 00:22:37,181 --> 00:22:39,706 is it good for me? 567 00:22:39,706 --> 00:22:41,055 Is it? 568 00:22:41,055 --> 00:22:44,363 It'’s always very good for me, Tommy. 569 00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:47,757 North, south, east, west. 570 00:22:47,757 --> 00:22:53,023 It'’s always, always good for me. 571 00:22:53,023 --> 00:22:54,634 Oh. 572 00:22:54,634 --> 00:22:56,113 You coming, Tommy? 573 00:22:56,113 --> 00:22:57,376 No! 574 00:22:58,725 --> 00:23:01,205 Oh. Yes. 575 00:23:05,558 --> 00:23:07,603 Careful. 576 00:23:07,603 --> 00:23:09,388 Ooh. 577 00:23:12,216 --> 00:23:13,740 Inquiring minds. 578 00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:15,742 Got it. 579 00:23:23,663 --> 00:23:26,187 Doctor, how well do you know Brianna Marsh? 580 00:23:26,187 --> 00:23:27,493 Pretty well. 581 00:23:27,493 --> 00:23:29,277 She'’s been my client for seven years. 582 00:23:29,277 --> 00:23:31,627 Without giving up too much privileged information, 583 00:23:31,627 --> 00:23:33,629 she suffers from anxiety. 584 00:23:33,629 --> 00:23:36,458 She'’s prone to panic attacks, as well as bouts of depression. 585 00:23:36,458 --> 00:23:38,417 Was she going through any of that here? 586 00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:39,766 She was going though all of it. 587 00:23:39,766 --> 00:23:41,289 And on top of that, she was suffering 588 00:23:41,289 --> 00:23:43,030 from what some experts call 589 00:23:43,030 --> 00:23:44,771 "sequestered juror syndrome." 590 00:23:44,771 --> 00:23:46,860 What? What the hell is that? 591 00:23:46,860 --> 00:23:48,949 Well, the symptoms include depression, 592 00:23:48,949 --> 00:23:51,473 restlessness, anxiety, despair, 593 00:23:51,473 --> 00:23:55,521 reduction of self-esteem, and actual cognitive impairment. 594 00:23:55,521 --> 00:23:57,784 And what causes it? 595 00:23:57,784 --> 00:23:58,785 Oh, it'’s complicated, but mainly 596 00:23:58,785 --> 00:23:59,960 sense of isolation. 597 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:01,483 Some experts 598 00:24:01,483 --> 00:24:03,311 have likened it to people who have lived 599 00:24:03,311 --> 00:24:05,835 in Antarctica for extended periods, 600 00:24:05,835 --> 00:24:07,663 and go into a mild fugue state 601 00:24:07,663 --> 00:24:09,448 called the "Antarctic Stare." 602 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:12,189 [chuckling]: Oh, please. 603 00:24:12,189 --> 00:24:15,366 You'’re comparing jury duty to Antarctica? 604 00:24:15,366 --> 00:24:17,804 Jury duty could be worse, Judge. 605 00:24:17,804 --> 00:24:20,371 Researchers living and working in Antarctica 606 00:24:20,371 --> 00:24:22,025 undergo intense psychological pre-screening, 607 00:24:22,025 --> 00:24:23,679 and they still crack. 608 00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:25,551 Jurors undergo no such screening. 609 00:24:25,551 --> 00:24:27,204 We just pluck '’em off the street. 610 00:24:27,204 --> 00:24:28,467 And often, we pluck the weak ones, 611 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:29,990 because both sides are looking 612 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:31,687 for people who they can manipulate. 613 00:24:31,687 --> 00:24:33,167 What a load of crap. 614 00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:34,211 TOMMY: Doctor, 615 00:24:34,211 --> 00:24:35,604 you saw my client 616 00:24:35,604 --> 00:24:36,910 aftershe came out of sequestration? 617 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:40,653 Yes, and I can tell you, she was not herself. 618 00:24:40,653 --> 00:24:42,785 She was often incoherent, 619 00:24:42,785 --> 00:24:45,179 her reasoning skills were significantly eroded. 620 00:24:45,179 --> 00:24:48,095 Her executive functioning was compromised. 621 00:24:48,095 --> 00:24:49,662 She was a mess. 622 00:24:51,011 --> 00:24:53,753 Why is it she was the only one in this jury 623 00:24:53,753 --> 00:24:56,886 to suffer this jury sequestration syndrome? 624 00:24:56,886 --> 00:24:58,148 She probably wasn'’t. 625 00:24:58,148 --> 00:25:00,194 She was just the only one who ran. 626 00:25:00,194 --> 00:25:02,936 Perhaps because, unlike the others, she was bullied. 627 00:25:02,936 --> 00:25:04,546 Were you in the room? No. 628 00:25:04,546 --> 00:25:06,548 I only know Brianna'’s account, which I believe. 629 00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:08,681 You seem like a very capable doctor. 630 00:25:08,681 --> 00:25:10,726 In the course of your practice, 631 00:25:10,726 --> 00:25:12,685 have you ever had a patient 632 00:25:12,685 --> 00:25:14,948 that had a loved one that was murdered? 633 00:25:14,948 --> 00:25:17,298 Yes. One that was forced 634 00:25:17,298 --> 00:25:19,561 to endure a trial of the accused? 635 00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:21,084 Yes. 636 00:25:21,084 --> 00:25:24,392 What'’s that like, from your medical perspective? 637 00:25:24,392 --> 00:25:28,048 It'’s vile. 638 00:25:28,048 --> 00:25:30,006 These people... 639 00:25:32,226 --> 00:25:35,316 The suspect in this case broke into their home, 640 00:25:35,316 --> 00:25:38,885 beat this man, raped this woman, 641 00:25:38,885 --> 00:25:40,582 and then murdered their son. 642 00:25:40,582 --> 00:25:43,019 They sat in this courtroom for two months. 643 00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:44,934 Do we have 644 00:25:44,934 --> 00:25:48,024 a syndrome to attribute to their experience, Doctor? 645 00:25:48,024 --> 00:25:49,939 No. 646 00:25:49,939 --> 00:25:51,680 And because of that woman, 647 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,989 they'’ll be to go through the whole thing all over again. 648 00:25:55,989 --> 00:25:58,905 What do you say to them, Doctor? 649 00:25:58,905 --> 00:26:00,907 "Buck up"? 650 00:26:00,907 --> 00:26:03,562 "Stiff upper lip"? 651 00:26:18,272 --> 00:26:20,404 I was a producer on the first season of It Takes Two, 652 00:26:20,404 --> 00:26:22,145 and I left halfway through the second. 653 00:26:22,145 --> 00:26:25,018 And, Mr. Hessly, to get an idea how these reality shows work, 654 00:26:25,018 --> 00:26:28,151 first, how do you get the people you get to be in them? 655 00:26:28,151 --> 00:26:29,675 Well, we have an open casting call, 656 00:26:29,675 --> 00:26:30,763 and they come in droves. 657 00:26:30,763 --> 00:26:31,981 And what are you looking for? 658 00:26:31,981 --> 00:26:33,287 We'’re looking for colorful people. 659 00:26:33,287 --> 00:26:34,418 Train wrecks. 660 00:26:34,418 --> 00:26:35,768 Okay. 661 00:26:35,768 --> 00:26:37,987 Tina and Eliot-- what did you see in them? 662 00:26:37,987 --> 00:26:40,250 We saw in them a dynamic that, um... 663 00:26:40,250 --> 00:26:42,644 Well, she was a little over the top. 664 00:26:42,644 --> 00:26:45,473 Your casting note said, "loud and trashy." 665 00:26:46,474 --> 00:26:47,780 He was repressed. 666 00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:48,868 Opposites of sorts. 667 00:26:48,868 --> 00:26:50,391 It makes for good conflict. 668 00:26:50,391 --> 00:26:52,349 Tina mentioned that the producers would also 669 00:26:52,349 --> 00:26:54,003 manufacture conflict if need be. 670 00:26:54,003 --> 00:26:55,222 It may have happened. 671 00:26:55,222 --> 00:26:56,702 Mind telling us how? 672 00:26:56,702 --> 00:26:58,007 It'’s called "poking the bear." 673 00:26:58,007 --> 00:26:59,356 We basically solicit 674 00:26:59,356 --> 00:27:00,880 a provocative comment from one cast member, 675 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,709 play it for the other, and suddenly, we have a fight. 676 00:27:03,709 --> 00:27:06,929 And those fights we see on TV-- they'’re real? 677 00:27:06,929 --> 00:27:09,366 Real with the occasional use of frankenbiting. 678 00:27:09,366 --> 00:27:11,151 Frankenbiting? 679 00:27:11,151 --> 00:27:13,240 It'’s an editing technique. We take various pieces 680 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,546 of audio and visual, we build the scene we want to build. 681 00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:17,984 Kind of like Frankenstein building his monster. 682 00:27:19,550 --> 00:27:22,249 Eliot is not what we would call a lover. 683 00:27:22,249 --> 00:27:24,033 Eliot is smart, 684 00:27:24,033 --> 00:27:25,731 and he takes care of me. 685 00:27:25,731 --> 00:27:27,558 Like, this one time at Halloween, I was dressed 686 00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:30,213 as a nun, and Eliot... 687 00:27:30,213 --> 00:27:32,085 [Tina laughs] 688 00:27:32,085 --> 00:27:33,173 I'’m sorry. 689 00:27:33,173 --> 00:27:35,523 [giggling] 690 00:27:35,523 --> 00:27:37,351 No, I shouldn'’t. 691 00:27:37,351 --> 00:27:38,874 [Tina clears her throat] 692 00:27:38,874 --> 00:27:40,223 [laughing] 693 00:27:40,223 --> 00:27:41,660 I'’m sorry. I'’m sorry. I'’m sorry. 694 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:43,183 [clears throat] 695 00:27:43,183 --> 00:27:45,881 Okay, the point is, is that Eliot takes care of me. 696 00:27:45,881 --> 00:27:48,362 And if I had it to do all over again, 697 00:27:48,362 --> 00:27:51,104 if I was looking for a man 698 00:27:51,104 --> 00:27:53,889 to make all my fantasies come true, 699 00:27:53,889 --> 00:27:55,456 it'’s Eliot. 700 00:27:55,456 --> 00:27:58,589 It'’s really Eliot. 701 00:27:58,589 --> 00:27:59,982 Sound familiar? 702 00:27:59,982 --> 00:28:01,723 We saw this clip earlier, 703 00:28:01,723 --> 00:28:04,378 only it played like this. 704 00:28:04,378 --> 00:28:07,555 Eliot is not what we would call a lover. 705 00:28:07,555 --> 00:28:10,123 If I was looking for a man 706 00:28:10,123 --> 00:28:13,430 to make all my fantasies come true, Elliot... 707 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:14,605 [laughs] 708 00:28:14,605 --> 00:28:16,346 I'’m sorry. 709 00:28:16,346 --> 00:28:18,914 [Tina laughs] 710 00:28:18,914 --> 00:28:20,089 No, I shouldn'’t. 711 00:28:20,089 --> 00:28:21,221 [clear throat] 712 00:28:21,221 --> 00:28:22,613 [giggles] 713 00:28:22,613 --> 00:28:24,093 I'’m sorry. I'’m sorry. I'’m sorry. 714 00:28:24,093 --> 00:28:25,225 [clearing her throat] 715 00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:28,315 And there you have frankenbiting. 716 00:28:28,315 --> 00:28:30,491 CHOI: Do you create a character out of whole-cloth? 717 00:28:30,491 --> 00:28:32,798 Absolutely not. We highlight. 718 00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:35,714 Inventing a character wouldn'’t be sustainable. 719 00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,933 It wouldn'’t last over the course of a season. 720 00:28:37,933 --> 00:28:40,196 So, the Tina we saw on television... 721 00:28:40,196 --> 00:28:42,503 That'’s essentially her with a nudge from us. 722 00:28:42,503 --> 00:28:44,244 A nudge?For instance, 723 00:28:44,244 --> 00:28:46,028 we have footage of Tina spanking a male stripper 724 00:28:46,028 --> 00:28:47,508 in the rear with her bra. 725 00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:50,119 That'’s not invented. That'’s who she is. 726 00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:52,818 Now, look, it'’s my job to take a five scene, 727 00:28:52,818 --> 00:28:54,776 turn it into ten. 728 00:28:54,776 --> 00:28:56,473 I add some music, some reaction shots. 729 00:28:56,473 --> 00:28:58,954 But essentially, what you see is who they are. 730 00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:01,174 Just combine that with the fact they know 731 00:29:01,174 --> 00:29:03,829 what we want, and they give it to us. 732 00:29:03,829 --> 00:29:06,092 Now, the availability of alcohol. 733 00:29:06,092 --> 00:29:09,008 Do you insist that the participants drink? 734 00:29:09,008 --> 00:29:11,488 If they drink, it'’s because they want to. 735 00:29:11,488 --> 00:29:12,838 We talked about Tina. 736 00:29:12,838 --> 00:29:14,448 What about Eliot? 737 00:29:14,448 --> 00:29:17,016 Eliot was a reluctant astronaut. 738 00:29:17,016 --> 00:29:18,452 I'’m sorry? 739 00:29:18,452 --> 00:29:21,281 He was only in it because Tina wanted him to be. 740 00:29:23,022 --> 00:29:24,632 HARRY: We all hear the complaint. 741 00:29:24,632 --> 00:29:27,940 I mean, how can juries seem so out of touch? 742 00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:30,159 O.J., Casey Anthony. 743 00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:32,335 Are they seeing the same case we'’re seeing? 744 00:29:32,335 --> 00:29:34,511 Well, maybe they are, but 745 00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:35,774 through a skewed prism. 746 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:37,123 These people are shut away 747 00:29:37,123 --> 00:29:38,733 from their family and friends. 748 00:29:38,733 --> 00:29:40,866 They'’re pressured and bullied 749 00:29:40,866 --> 00:29:43,825 by each other in an extremely confined environment. 750 00:29:43,825 --> 00:29:46,872 One of reasons that we don'’t trust confessions is because 751 00:29:46,872 --> 00:29:49,831 people are cooped up and psychologically worn down 752 00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:51,615 to the point where they'’ll say anything. 753 00:29:51,615 --> 00:29:52,834 Well, 754 00:29:52,834 --> 00:29:54,531 that'’s our jury system. 755 00:29:54,531 --> 00:29:57,534 The scientists who have studied sequestration have said that 756 00:29:57,534 --> 00:29:59,275 it breeds a kind of insanity. 757 00:29:59,275 --> 00:30:01,147 Jury of our peers? 758 00:30:01,147 --> 00:30:04,628 It'’s more like jury of our whacked-out peers. 759 00:30:04,628 --> 00:30:06,543 People crack. 760 00:30:06,543 --> 00:30:07,849 Brianna cracked. 761 00:30:07,849 --> 00:30:09,372 She had emotional and 762 00:30:09,372 --> 00:30:11,548 psychological deficits to begin with. 763 00:30:11,548 --> 00:30:14,290 Anxiety, panic attacks. 764 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:15,944 She was prone to depression. 765 00:30:15,944 --> 00:30:20,819 Then she'’s isolated from her family and her routines, 766 00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:22,255 her support systems. 767 00:30:22,255 --> 00:30:24,213 She'’s bullied and battered. 768 00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:27,434 No wonder she went nuts. 769 00:30:27,434 --> 00:30:30,263 And now, you want to punish her 770 00:30:30,263 --> 00:30:33,440 and hold her in contempt, 771 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,268 and throw her in isolation 772 00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:37,705 where she'’ll be subjected to rude treatment, 773 00:30:37,705 --> 00:30:39,489 crappy food and no privileges. 774 00:30:39,489 --> 00:30:43,102 She just went through two months of that. 775 00:30:43,102 --> 00:30:45,060 That'’s why she cracked. 776 00:30:47,410 --> 00:30:49,238 ODOM: So, when the going gets tough, 777 00:30:49,238 --> 00:30:50,805 we should just let the jury get going? 778 00:30:50,805 --> 00:30:52,067 Is that the answer? 779 00:30:52,067 --> 00:30:54,896 What she did was unconscionable. 780 00:30:54,896 --> 00:30:56,245 You said it yourself, Judge. 781 00:30:56,245 --> 00:30:57,420 So many people 782 00:30:57,420 --> 00:30:59,422 gave of themselves for so long, 783 00:30:59,422 --> 00:31:02,077 to finally get justice in a murder trial, 784 00:31:02,077 --> 00:31:05,602 And Brianna Marsh threw it all out the window. 785 00:31:05,602 --> 00:31:07,691 The financial cost-- over four million. 786 00:31:07,691 --> 00:31:09,606 The emotional cost-- 787 00:31:09,606 --> 00:31:10,781 immeasurable. 788 00:31:10,781 --> 00:31:12,305 Because she 789 00:31:12,305 --> 00:31:14,133 couldn'’t take the pressure. She was stressed. 790 00:31:14,133 --> 00:31:17,266 Oh, come on. She was borderline suicidal, for God'’s sake. 791 00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:18,920 You had your say! 792 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,967 Yeah, well, have yours, but please do not trivialize this, 793 00:31:21,967 --> 00:31:23,882 and do not misconstrue what I'’ve said. 794 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:25,622 This was an extreme situation. 795 00:31:25,622 --> 00:31:28,060 Yes, it was, especially for that family! 796 00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:29,235 All right. HARRY: Your Honor, 797 00:31:29,235 --> 00:31:30,976 do we even bother 798 00:31:30,976 --> 00:31:33,282 to warn prospective jurors about the pressures that they face? 799 00:31:33,282 --> 00:31:36,024 I mean, do they have the slightest idea 800 00:31:36,024 --> 00:31:37,634 what they'’re getting themselves into? 801 00:31:37,634 --> 00:31:39,549 She had two months to get out if she couldn'’t hack it! 802 00:31:39,549 --> 00:31:40,855 All right. 803 00:31:40,855 --> 00:31:42,639 I'’ve heard enough from each of you. 804 00:31:42,639 --> 00:31:44,119 Thank you, Your Honor. 805 00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:46,034 No. 806 00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:48,123 I'’ll talk now. Everybody sit down. 807 00:31:49,298 --> 00:31:51,953 Ms. Korn, you are no doubt correct 808 00:31:51,953 --> 00:31:56,044 to question the validity of our jury system. 809 00:31:56,044 --> 00:32:00,614 It seems that only when we get people 810 00:32:00,614 --> 00:32:06,141 mentally compromised enough do we say, "What say you?" 811 00:32:06,141 --> 00:32:08,361 They probably should be prescreened 812 00:32:08,361 --> 00:32:11,494 or profiled to see if they'’re even up to the wear and tear 813 00:32:11,494 --> 00:32:13,932 of prolonged sequestration-- but we don'’t have 814 00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:15,716 the resources for that. 815 00:32:15,716 --> 00:32:20,025 There is a lot wrong with the jury system, 816 00:32:20,025 --> 00:32:22,723 but it is our system, like it or not. 817 00:32:22,723 --> 00:32:27,206 And the answer can never be for a juror to flee. 818 00:32:27,206 --> 00:32:30,296 Mr. Odom is right-- she could have got out; 819 00:32:30,296 --> 00:32:31,645 we had alternates. 820 00:32:31,645 --> 00:32:35,040 But once those alternates were all taken up 821 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,042 and we were in deliberations, 822 00:32:37,042 --> 00:32:40,436 she had a civic duty to stick it out. 823 00:32:40,436 --> 00:32:41,655 She didn'’t. 824 00:32:41,655 --> 00:32:43,048 I find her decision 825 00:32:43,048 --> 00:32:45,789 to run wasvoluntary, and she will be held 826 00:32:45,789 --> 00:32:47,269 in contempt. 827 00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:50,577 And... I shall ask the D.A.'’s office to file 828 00:32:50,577 --> 00:32:54,973 obstruction of justice charges forthwith. 829 00:32:56,539 --> 00:32:58,324 We are adjourned. 830 00:33:12,381 --> 00:33:14,383 I think the best plan 831 00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:17,082 would be to let the judge'’s wrath cool down. 832 00:33:17,082 --> 00:33:20,041 You could be out from the contempt thing this week. 833 00:33:20,041 --> 00:33:22,087 As for obstruction of justice, we again make the argument 834 00:33:22,087 --> 00:33:24,959 that your actions weren'’t entirely voluntary. 835 00:33:24,959 --> 00:33:26,830 We'’re not done. 836 00:33:26,830 --> 00:33:28,441 Don'’t despair. 837 00:33:28,441 --> 00:33:30,182 We'’re not done. 838 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,402 Probably done. 839 00:33:33,402 --> 00:33:34,751 Tommy! 840 00:33:34,751 --> 00:33:36,231 I-I'’m just saying. 841 00:33:36,231 --> 00:33:37,754 CHOI: It was unrelenting. 842 00:33:37,754 --> 00:33:41,193 And it was on national television. 843 00:33:41,193 --> 00:33:42,933 Of course she had to have contributed 844 00:33:42,933 --> 00:33:44,587 to Eliot Stanhope'’s suicide. 845 00:33:44,587 --> 00:33:47,242 Who could stand up to that degree of... 846 00:33:47,242 --> 00:33:48,765 humiliation? 847 00:33:48,765 --> 00:33:51,464 When we get married, we take a vow. 848 00:33:51,464 --> 00:33:53,422 Those vows may use varying language 849 00:33:53,422 --> 00:33:54,989 and different phrases, 850 00:33:54,989 --> 00:33:58,601 but at the core is always a promise to love, protect, 851 00:33:58,601 --> 00:34:00,908 cherish, defend. 852 00:34:00,908 --> 00:34:04,085 Tina Stanhope took those vows and did the opposite. 853 00:34:04,085 --> 00:34:07,262 She used Eliot Stanhope. 854 00:34:07,262 --> 00:34:09,786 She willfully manipulated him into a situation 855 00:34:09,786 --> 00:34:13,181 rife with risk to his emotional state and reputation, 856 00:34:13,181 --> 00:34:15,183 and exposed him to crushing ridicule, 857 00:34:15,183 --> 00:34:17,142 all for her own vanity. 858 00:34:17,142 --> 00:34:19,796 She may not have slit his wrists with that razor blade, 859 00:34:19,796 --> 00:34:22,408 but she incited the tragedy just the same. 860 00:34:22,408 --> 00:34:25,672 Her behavior simply shocks the conscience. 861 00:34:25,672 --> 00:34:27,717 I certainly hope it shocked yours. 862 00:34:30,285 --> 00:34:32,592 I have to admit, 863 00:34:32,592 --> 00:34:35,029 from the footage I saw, 864 00:34:35,029 --> 00:34:39,338 Tina didn'’t seem like a very nice person. 865 00:34:39,338 --> 00:34:43,342 But I think we'’re all smart enough to appreciate 866 00:34:43,342 --> 00:34:46,693 she was cast, filmed and edited to be the bitch 867 00:34:46,693 --> 00:34:49,478 that America would love to hate. 868 00:34:49,478 --> 00:34:51,393 She was part of a television show. 869 00:34:51,393 --> 00:34:53,743 She played her role. 870 00:34:53,743 --> 00:34:55,615 Eliot played his. 871 00:34:55,615 --> 00:34:59,793 And just like she did, he signed up for all of it. 872 00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:02,796 He signed a contract allowing the producers 873 00:35:02,796 --> 00:35:04,798 to portray in the best interest of the series. 874 00:35:04,798 --> 00:35:06,365 They did so. 875 00:35:06,365 --> 00:35:11,761 For that, he was paid more than $60,000 an episode. 876 00:35:11,761 --> 00:35:14,851 This is reality television, folks. 877 00:35:14,851 --> 00:35:16,723 The one thing that all of them have in common 878 00:35:16,723 --> 00:35:21,684 is they exploit the contestants for our entertainment pleasure. 879 00:35:21,684 --> 00:35:23,643 And we are entertained, aren'’t we? 880 00:35:23,643 --> 00:35:24,992 After all, 881 00:35:24,992 --> 00:35:27,516 we watch, we devour it. 882 00:35:27,516 --> 00:35:31,564 The greater the humiliation, the happier we are as viewers. 883 00:35:31,564 --> 00:35:34,871 All the producers need find is a few sacrificial lambs 884 00:35:34,871 --> 00:35:36,699 willing to make fools of themselves. 885 00:35:36,699 --> 00:35:39,006 They found one in Tina. 886 00:35:39,006 --> 00:35:41,226 They found one in Eliot. 887 00:35:41,226 --> 00:35:45,230 This one... had a tragic ending. 888 00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:48,798 But it isn'’t the first time, is it? 889 00:35:50,409 --> 00:35:53,890 Julien Hug, The Bachelorette, suicide victim. 890 00:35:53,890 --> 00:35:55,762 Joe Cerniglia, Kitchen Nightmares, 891 00:35:55,762 --> 00:35:57,416 suicide victim. 892 00:35:57,416 --> 00:35:59,983 Russell Armstrong, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, 893 00:35:59,983 --> 00:36:01,071 suicide victim. 894 00:36:01,071 --> 00:36:02,856 Najai Turpin, The Contender, 895 00:36:02,856 --> 00:36:04,205 suicide victim. 896 00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:05,989 Wesley Durden, Next Great Baker, 897 00:36:05,989 --> 00:36:07,252 suicide victim. 898 00:36:07,252 --> 00:36:09,428 James Scott Terrill, Supernanny, 899 00:36:09,428 --> 00:36:10,733 suicide victim. 900 00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:12,735 Nathan Clutter, Paradise Hotel 2, 901 00:36:12,735 --> 00:36:14,389 suicide victim. 902 00:36:14,389 --> 00:36:16,304 Rachel Brown, Hell'’s Kitchen, 903 00:36:16,304 --> 00:36:17,566 suicide victim. 904 00:36:17,566 --> 00:36:20,395 Eliot Stanhope, It Takes Two, 905 00:36:20,395 --> 00:36:22,223 suicide victim. 906 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:24,225 The list goes on and on. 907 00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:27,315 And will, because we watch. 908 00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:29,274 We love it. 909 00:36:29,274 --> 00:36:32,581 We want them to recruit psychological train wrecks 910 00:36:32,581 --> 00:36:34,496 like Tina and Eliot. 911 00:36:34,496 --> 00:36:36,498 They entertain us. 912 00:36:36,498 --> 00:36:40,546 It makes us happy to watch them self-destruct. 913 00:36:40,546 --> 00:36:43,070 It would be nice 914 00:36:43,070 --> 00:36:45,812 to lay this all on Tina, wouldn'’t it? 915 00:36:47,596 --> 00:36:50,817 Sure is more fun than taking responsibility ourselves. 916 00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:56,518 Yeah, let'’s go with "Tina'’s fault." 917 00:36:57,867 --> 00:36:59,478 Sounds good to me. 918 00:37:13,361 --> 00:37:15,058 [sighs] They lost. 919 00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:17,322 What do you mean?Harry and Tommy, they lost. 920 00:37:17,322 --> 00:37:19,628 We should clear out of here before she gets back. 921 00:37:19,628 --> 00:37:21,587 She'’s not a whole lot of fun when she loses. 922 00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:23,458 Not much fun when she wins, for that matter. 923 00:37:23,458 --> 00:37:25,808 What do you mean? Harry'’s fun. 924 00:37:25,808 --> 00:37:28,724 [laughs] We talking about the same Harry? 925 00:37:30,248 --> 00:37:31,597 What'’s wrong with your eyes? 926 00:37:34,643 --> 00:37:36,254 How we doing, Cassie? 927 00:37:38,038 --> 00:37:39,822 I hate Skype! 928 00:37:41,955 --> 00:37:43,913 Sorry about that. 929 00:37:45,175 --> 00:37:48,135 Okay, Madam Forewoman, you have reached 930 00:37:48,135 --> 00:37:51,051 your verdict by a preponderance of the evidence? 931 00:37:51,051 --> 00:37:52,705 We have, Your Honor. 932 00:37:52,705 --> 00:37:54,837 [whispers]: Is that a good thing, "preponderance"? 933 00:37:54,837 --> 00:37:56,491 JUDGE: What say you, then? 934 00:37:56,491 --> 00:37:58,406 On the count of wrongful death, 935 00:37:58,406 --> 00:38:00,016 we find in favor... 936 00:38:00,016 --> 00:38:02,192 of the defendant. 937 00:38:02,192 --> 00:38:05,457 On the count of intentional infliction of emotional distress, 938 00:38:05,457 --> 00:38:06,849 we find in favor 939 00:38:06,849 --> 00:38:09,504 of the defendant. On the count 940 00:38:09,504 --> 00:38:11,593 of negligent infliction of emotional distress, 941 00:38:11,593 --> 00:38:13,769 we find in favor of the plaintiff, 942 00:38:13,769 --> 00:38:15,510 and we order the defendant to pay damages 943 00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:17,904 in the amount of $120,000. 944 00:38:20,994 --> 00:38:22,038 I lost? 945 00:38:22,038 --> 00:38:24,040 No, you won on the main counts. 946 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,129 This is good, Tina, very good. 947 00:38:26,129 --> 00:38:27,566 [gavel bangs] 948 00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:31,787 [chuckles] 949 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:36,096 [reporters shouting questions] 950 00:38:43,886 --> 00:38:46,280 ♪ When they speak the same ♪ 951 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,849 ♪ Who'’s left there to show another way? ♪ 952 00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:53,722 ♪ I'’m all alone ♪ 953 00:38:53,722 --> 00:38:55,637 ♪ ♪ 954 00:38:55,637 --> 00:38:58,553 ♪ Everything they ♪ 955 00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:00,686 ♪ Said to me was just a lie ♪ 956 00:39:00,686 --> 00:39:03,819 ♪ Every word ♪ 957 00:39:03,819 --> 00:39:06,387 ♪ Is killing me ♪ 958 00:39:06,387 --> 00:39:08,084 ♪ Another time ♪ 959 00:39:08,084 --> 00:39:10,652 ♪ When they speak the same ♪ 960 00:39:10,652 --> 00:39:14,395 ♪ Who'’s left there to show another way? ♪ 961 00:39:14,395 --> 00:39:17,703 ♪ I'’m all alone ♪ 962 00:39:20,314 --> 00:39:23,970 ♪ I'’m all alone ♪ 963 00:39:28,757 --> 00:39:31,412 [reporters shouting questions] 964 00:39:31,412 --> 00:39:34,067 NANCY GRACE: What is up with Ohio? 965 00:39:34,067 --> 00:39:36,722 SUE MOSS: I can tell you, the state is spelled "Hi," 966 00:39:36,722 --> 00:39:38,463 bookend by two big zeroes 967 00:39:38,463 --> 00:39:39,986 representing the people who live there. 968 00:39:39,986 --> 00:39:41,596 I would have fed that Tina 969 00:39:41,596 --> 00:39:42,815 right into the wood chipper. 970 00:39:42,815 --> 00:39:44,686 Tell you what, "Ohio"... 971 00:39:44,686 --> 00:39:46,340 Why does she put everything in quotes? 972 00:39:46,340 --> 00:39:48,603 [laughs] 973 00:39:48,603 --> 00:39:50,126 Doesn'’t make any sense. 974 00:39:50,126 --> 00:39:52,694 If they want to get high, get high on that. 975 00:39:52,694 --> 00:39:54,522 People are not happy. 976 00:39:54,522 --> 00:39:57,090 It seems not. 977 00:39:57,090 --> 00:39:58,787 Thank, Adam. 978 00:39:58,787 --> 00:40:00,136 That was an awesome closing. 979 00:40:00,136 --> 00:40:02,530 Every think you should be doing 980 00:40:02,530 --> 00:40:03,966 a little more of that, maybe less 981 00:40:03,966 --> 00:40:05,881 organizing secretarial pools? 982 00:40:05,881 --> 00:40:07,056 I'’m not leaving, Phoebe. 983 00:40:07,056 --> 00:40:08,623 I like where I am. 984 00:40:08,623 --> 00:40:10,582 Can'’t blame me for trying. 985 00:40:10,582 --> 00:40:11,626 I got another idea. 986 00:40:11,626 --> 00:40:12,758 You come work with us. 987 00:40:12,758 --> 00:40:14,237 [laughs] I don'’t think so. 988 00:40:14,237 --> 00:40:15,369 Why not? 989 00:40:15,369 --> 00:40:16,762 You seem to like everybody there. 990 00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:18,067 They all like you. 991 00:40:18,067 --> 00:40:19,068 We get great cases. 992 00:40:19,068 --> 00:40:20,461 I like doing my own thing. 993 00:40:20,461 --> 00:40:22,115 Fine, come do it with us. 994 00:40:22,115 --> 00:40:23,203 You need community 995 00:40:23,203 --> 00:40:24,596 in your life. 996 00:40:26,249 --> 00:40:28,643 I'’ll keep Ollie from trying to hump you from behind. 997 00:40:28,643 --> 00:40:30,602 No promises on Lisa, but... 998 00:40:30,602 --> 00:40:32,430 Come join us. 999 00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:34,823 [sighs] 1000 00:40:34,823 --> 00:40:36,521 Think about it. 1001 00:40:38,697 --> 00:40:40,655 When you think about things, which, as you know, 1002 00:40:40,655 --> 00:40:42,135 I don'’t like to do. 1003 00:40:42,135 --> 00:40:44,485 We'’ve basically got a system that breaks down 1004 00:40:44,485 --> 00:40:46,139 the individual'’s powers of reasoning 1005 00:40:46,139 --> 00:40:48,010 for the purpose of reaching a reasonable verdict. 1006 00:40:48,010 --> 00:40:50,143 That'’s one way of looking at it. 1007 00:40:50,143 --> 00:40:52,101 What'’s the other? 1008 00:40:52,101 --> 00:40:53,755 Well, if you'’re trying to decide 1009 00:40:53,755 --> 00:40:55,017 whether somebody broke a given law, 1010 00:40:55,017 --> 00:40:56,497 you could ask a judge to decide, 1011 00:40:56,497 --> 00:40:59,674 somebody who'’s trained in the law, 1012 00:40:59,674 --> 00:41:01,502 or you could turn the matter over to 12 lunkheads 1013 00:41:01,502 --> 00:41:02,677 who never finished high school 1014 00:41:02,677 --> 00:41:04,679 and get their legal interpretation. 1015 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,598 God, look at the two of them. 1016 00:41:10,598 --> 00:41:13,514 Ten bucks says he tries to kiss her. 1017 00:41:13,514 --> 00:41:15,211 You'’re on. 1018 00:41:15,211 --> 00:41:16,952 She'’s way too much for him. 1019 00:41:16,952 --> 00:41:18,171 Doesn'’t matter; give him enough time, 1020 00:41:18,171 --> 00:41:19,346 he'’ll try to kiss her. 1021 00:41:19,346 --> 00:41:20,434 I know my people. 1022 00:41:20,434 --> 00:41:23,176 [chuckles] 1023 00:41:23,176 --> 00:41:24,743 Speaking of which, Tommy, 1024 00:41:24,743 --> 00:41:27,006 isn'’t it time you become one of my people? 1025 00:41:27,006 --> 00:41:28,877 What are you talking about? 1026 00:41:28,877 --> 00:41:30,400 Well, we practice law together. 1027 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,577 You visit our staff meetings. 1028 00:41:32,577 --> 00:41:34,970 We jump in on your cases, you jump in on ours. 1029 00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:37,407 I mean, I'’m saying if it looks like a duck 1030 00:41:37,407 --> 00:41:39,061 and quacks like a duck, should you become 1031 00:41:39,061 --> 00:41:41,063 one of my ducks? 1032 00:41:41,063 --> 00:41:43,805 Isn'’t it time our firms just merge? 1033 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:50,986 Oh, hell. 1034 00:41:50,986 --> 00:41:53,380 All I ever really wanted... 1035 00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:56,209 really, to, uh, 1036 00:41:56,209 --> 00:41:59,473 be part of a family. 1037 00:41:59,473 --> 00:42:01,388 You know? 1038 00:42:01,388 --> 00:42:04,304 I need another drink. 1039 00:42:07,394 --> 00:42:10,310 To quack for a team. 1040 00:42:10,310 --> 00:42:13,269 Captioning sponsored by WARNER BROS. 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