Rob: I feel like deja vu.
I've been to Ohio so many times this - in the last 5 years.
Danielle: Ohio's gonna treat you good.
You'll have fun there, I promise.
Rob: So, the million-dollar question is: where's my brother?
Danielle: He's with Rich from J-3.
Rob: So, it's Rich is giving Mike an education on...
Jersey Jon: He's getting an education from Rich.
Danielle: But Mike thinks he's giving Rich an education?
Jersey Jon: Of course, that's how that works.
Danielle: Yes! You guys have fun.
Jersey Jon: Thank you, sweetie. Danielle: Eat your vitamins.
I'll call you with the leads. Rob: Alright.
Jersey Jon: Thank you. Danielle: See you!
Mike: How are we looking there, Rich?
Rich: Nah, don't got it.
Now you're clear. After these two.
Mike: After these two, then I'm clear?
Rich: Go. Go, go. Mike: Okay.
Rich: Get it!
Mike: Everything I've learned over the last 10 years
about air-cooled Porsche, I've learned from Rich.
Mike: Rich has one of the premier shops in America
that deals with 356 Porsche.
It's not unusual to walk in the doors there
and see 15 to 20 of them at one time that people have
sent from all over the country.
Mike: Here's the deal, I'm just -
I'm freaking out that you and I
are about ready to look through a guy's life's collection
of Porsche 356 stuff.
Rich: Absolutely. Christmas morning, man.
Digging through boxes. That's the best part.
Mike: You're gonna be digging through all the boxes
and you're gonna know what the hell it all is!
I mean, I know - I know enough to be dangerous
and that's about it.
Mike: Instead of blowing up his phone,
I figured it'd be best to have Rich with me
so he can see this stuff in real time.
Mike: Okay, Rich, here's the biggie for you:
open up that glovebox.
Rich: Oh, is this the official flyers?
Oh man, there's a whole bunch.
Mike: I know. Only take one! Just one.
Rich: Okay, okay, I got it...
Mike: Dani will freak out if I gave two or three.
Rich: I don't want that.
Mike: You don't want the wrath of her.
Rich: I'm good.
Mike: I'm just teasing, she's amazing.
Rich: [laughs]
Mike: Alright. So here we're coming up on it.
Okay, right here, this one with the garage door open.
Alright.
Richard: Hello. Mike: Hey, are you Richard?
Richard: I am. Mike: Hey, I'm Mike.
Richard: Nice to meet you, Mike. Mike: Nice to meet you.
Richard: Name's Rich. Mike: This is Rich.
Rich: Pleasure to meet you, sir. How are you?
Richard: Nice to meet you. Mike: Hey, hi, how are you?
Monica: Hi! How are you?
Mike: Hey, I'm Mike. Nice to meet you.
Monica: Monica. Nice to meet you.
Mike: This is my buddy, Rich.
Rich: Name's Rich, pleasure to meet you, ma'am. How are you?
Mike: I know you talked to Danielle about Porsche stuff,
but there's a lot of different things that we buy.
Richard: Okay.
Richard: Fred Coward was my neighbor.
He always had his derby cap on, his sunglasses,
his driving gloves, and he would always smile and wave to you.
Mike: This was his daily driver?
Richard: Yes. Mike: Really?
Rich: Wow.
Richard: If he had a car show in California,
he would actually drive this car to California for the show.
Rich: Oh, that's fantastic.
Mike: Hey, if he broke down, he knew how to fix it.
Richard: Right. Rich: Yeah, for sure.
Richard: Well, he always had a repair kit.
He was always tinkering with the carburetors.
Some of his car buddies would come by and say, you know,
"You got it just right."
And he would drive it for a little while
and then come back and he'd start tinkering,
"Nah, there's something wrong, something wrong." [laughs]
Monica: My 16-year-old daughter learned to drive
a shift on that car and it didn't faze him in the least.
Rich: Oh my gosh, what a great guy.
Mike: Oh my gosh, spoiled her a little bit.
She starts out on a Porsche? Monica: Yep!
She got her driver's license, he let her go take it out
and tool around and learn how to drive a 5-speed, which-
Mike: So, she had no idea how to drive a stick?
And he said, "Go ahead"? Monica: Nope!
"Come on!" And um, so she practiced on this,
my son did, they went around the neighborhood just for fun
because he liked to show it off.
He liked to share his car,
he wanted everybody to have the experience of his baby.
Mike: For the short amount of time that we've spent here,
we are learning a lot about Fred
and the type of person that he was.
He let a 16-year-old girl that didn't know how to drive
a clutch behind the wheel of his baby.
Something that was so special to him.
He knew how instrumental that moment was going to be
in her life, and he wanted to be the one to do that.
Monica: We mowed his yard,
he drove my kids around in a Porsche.
Rich: That's a fair deal! Monica: We took that trade.
Rich: Take that deal when you can get it.
Mike: This is pretty incredible.
Richard: He would come over and have dinner with us.
We felt like Fred was part of the family.
I'm still trying to figure out why Fred left everything to me.
I guess it's 'cause he knew
that I would handle everything to his wishes.
Mike: Wow.
Richard: It's not something I ever asked for
and it's not something that I ever thought that I would get.
Rich: It's a lot of responsibility.
Richard: It's a lot of responsibility.
Mike: Well, obviously he thought a lot of you guys.
It's incredible.
Richard: I think Fred left us all of this because
he didn't want to show favoritism
to any of his buddies.
Mike: Okay.
Richard: And the car, you know, he didn't want them to bicker,
you know, say one of them got more than the other one, so.
Mike: Some of that stuff can be very competitive.
Richard: Right, right.
That's the reason we reached out to y'all.
Monica: He has this one committed to someone
specifically in the will,
but we have a three-bay garage in the back.
Monica: Richard will take you out in the back
and you guys can shuffle through the shed.
Rich: Sounds great! Alright.
Mike: We're all here to take care of each other.
And sometimes the smallest gesture of kindness
can mean the world to somebody.
You know, it's such a blessing for Richard
and his family to be given such a life-changing gift.
Mike: Here you go!
Oh, look at this, man. You guys got a '32!
Rich: '32!
Mike: Woo! You got a '32, you got two Porsches.
Richard: Yep.
Rich: Oh man, here we go. Mike: Wow!
Rob: What's up, Dani?
Danielle: Well, I hope both of you have your game face on
because I am sending you to meet Leon.
Now, Leon is almost 90 years old.
He's 87, and he's been collecting toys
and pedal cars his entire life.
Rob: Really?
Danielle: And when I tell you
that this man has mountains of toys and pedal cars,
I do not lie.
Rob: Mountains? Danielle: Mountains.
Rob: I like that!
So, you're saying we got a lot of digging to do today.
Danielle: For sure.
Okay, so I've been talking to Dan - Leon's son -
by the way, his name is Leon but they call him Red.
So, bear that in mind.
Rob: Red. Jersey Jon: Cool.
Rob: I like that.
Danielle: So, Dan and Red,
they're in the process of prying the doors open
so you guys can actually get inside
and see some of the stuff.
Rob: Alright, send us the coordinates!
Danielle: Will do! I'm on it.
Jersey Jon: Thank you! Rob: Thanks, Dani.
Danielle: Alright, bye boys. Take care.
Rob: Pay attention, get your A game on.
It's right here. Jersey Jon: I'm on it.
Right here, look. Right here.
Jersey Jon: Woo! Rob: Look at that gas pump!
Jersey Jon: Yeah, look at his barn.
Rob: Yeah.
Jersey Jon: Let me get a flyer.
Jersey Jon: Hey.
Rob: How are you doing? Dan: Good!
Rob: You talked to Danielle on the phone?
Dan: I did, sir.
Rob: I'm Rob Wolfe. Dan: Dan. Dan Black.
Rob: Nice to meet you. Jersey Jon: Jon!
Dan: Hi Jon, nice to meet you. Rob: How are you?
Jersey Jon: Hey! Rob: What's your name?
Red: Red.
Jersey Jon: Got stuff like that? We're looking for that, Red.
Boom. Red: I got everything on there.
Dan: Dad's been here...
He's been collecting for 50 years and he's got -
this used to be an old motel, and he bought this
and the whole house, and everything,
all the buildings are full.
Rob: Full like this? Dan: Oh yeah. Absolutely.
Jersey Jon: Woo! Dan: Chock-full.
Rob: Red, can we look around a little bit?
Red: Sure.
Red: I had red hair at one time, so they still call me Red.
Danny, my son, he doesn't care about antiques.
He don't care a thing about it.
But I love it! And I crave it.
Rob: Murray Diesel. Red: Yeah.
Rob: Let's see if I can get it out of here.
Ugh...
Woo!
Jersey Jon: You did it.
Rob: Holy cow.
Look at that, Jersey.
That's like 1960s?
Rob: If you were a kid, this is what you wanted.
Your dad was out in the field,
you were playing with your tractor
and it looked exactly like his.
This particular tractor has an engine in it.
It's actually molded out.
There's a million farmers out there
who would want to relive their childhood.
Rob: What are you thinking you got to have on that, Red?
Red: Make me an offer.
Rob: Just because of the condition of this one, Red...
Red: Yeah.
Rob: 125 bucks.
Red: Yeah, I guess so. Rob: That work?
Red: Yeah. Rob: Alright.
I appreciate you. Thank you, buddy.
Jersey Jon: Man, you got some cool stuff in here though, Red.
Dan: There's not enough room in there for me, guys.
You guys go on.
Red: [laughs] Rob: Alright.
When's the last time you put something in here?
Red: Every once in a while,
I'll go pick up something at the flea market and bring it.
Rob: Is that where you were getting
a lot of your stuff from?
Red: Oh yeah. Well, yard sales, whatever.
Rob: Red, I want to ask about these wagon wheels.
Red: I bought them over at a machinery show last year.
Jersey Jon: I love going to the machinery shows, man.
Red: They got everything there. Rob: Yeah.
What were you going to use them for?
Red: I was going to get the fourth one
and rig up a buggy of some kind.
Rob: [laughs]
Jersey Jon: They're in nice shape.
Rob: And then- Jersey Jon: These are nice.
Rob: What, uh, what do you think you got to sell these for?
I think these are decorator pieces.
That's what I'm looking at them as.
Red: Make me an offer.
Rob: 30 bucks each.
Red: That's - that'd be 90.
Rob: 90 bucks for all of them. Red: I'd go 100.
Rob: Shake his hand, Jersey. Jersey Jon: Yeah, dude.
Red: Okay. Jersey Jon: Thank you.
We're good.
Jersey Jon: Red is so cool.
I mean, this guy is still building buggies
with parts he's got laying around here
that he's picking up from machine shows.
And I can identify with that
because I go to the same machine shows, man.
You can find something at a machine show and you could,
like, really create just anything your imagination wants.
Jersey Jon: Red. Oil rack.
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
Rob: Falling in the holes.
Jersey Jon: Falling in the hole! Woo!
Red: Groundhog hole there or something.
Jersey Jon: Groundhogs in there, yeah!
Yeah, I think he just bit my toe.
Jersey Jon: I'm thinking 30 bucks.
Red: 35.
Jersey Jon: I'll do 35. Thank you, sir.
Whoa. Sorry, man.
You got oil bottles for this? Red: Yeah.
Jersey Jon: Where they at? Red: Upstairs.
Jersey Jon: Oh yeah? This is the stairway?
Red: I got about 13 racks up there.
Jersey Jon: Let me get through there. Whoa!
Look at this place, Robbie.
It is packed full! Woo!
Mike: Did he build this car? Richard: Uh, he did not.
He actually, uh, bought it for his sister.
Mike: Okay.
Richard: The engine had so much torque that it drove
the motor mount into the frame, so I just had it repaired.
Mike: I can see the repair on it.
Richard: I've got to put it back together.
Mike: So, you're mechanical? Richard: Yes.
I pulled the transmission and the engine out.
Richard: Fred was very mechanically-inclined.
They used to go drag racing all the time.
He was actually into Corvettes before he got into Porsches.
Mike: Rich, you drooling yet?
Rich: Yeah, there's a lot to see here, man.
There's, you know, you've got this incredible
wall of parts and then uh, looks like a late C.
Rich: So, in the garage, there's two 356s.
One is a '65 SC, the other is a '57 A.
Mike: Check out the pans, Rich.
Rich: Yeah, that's all recently redone.
Looks like somebody went through the entire tub.
So, I see there's an A over here.
It's got to be...
Richard: 1957. Rich: Yes sir.
Well, actually, the neat thing with the beehive taillights,
it's early '57.
That was, I believe,
the first three months of production, thereabouts,
before they went to the later teardrop directly after.
So, yeah, that's actually a very cool car.
Mike: It's one thing to see photographs,
but to walk into a garage
and put your hands on this stuff,
it's pretty incredible.
I mean, all of these cars are getting so hard to find
and a lot of times when you find them,
you can poke your finger through the body.
I mean, Rich and I have been down that road
together on the last deal when I found a few 356s.
Mike: The cars with the 912 engine, 35 grand.
Ed: Alright.
Mike: I appreciate you. Ed: 35. I felt good about it.
I had them for 50 years.
I mean... you get attached to them!
Rich: You can see the floor pans were put in,
they're kind of a little bit rough.
There's pinholes back here under the uh, the rear torsion.
The bottoms of the mounts are still rot
here under the torsion plate, the cover.
So, I would imagine that this one was probably one
that was still a little bit more in process.
But, I mean, it looks like a real solid car to begin with.
It's got its original numbers match doors
which are stamped on the inside there. Um...
Mike: What are you looking at?
Rich: Right below the first circle there
into the door in the center member there
is three digits, and what they did was
they stamped the doors to match the VIN number for the car.
So, these are the doors that it left the factory with.
Mike: Rich is going through these cars
with a fine-tooth comb.
Mike: Here, right there. Rich: Yeah. There it is.
What does it say? 587.
Yeah, so that means the hood matches the car.
Mike: This is exactly what I wanted to happen.
For him to nerd out, crawl underneath it,
get inside of it, look at every detail
because all of that adds up to the overall value.
[adventurous music]
Jersey Jon: Woo! Rob: Oh, wow.
Jersey Jon: Dang, you got everything in here, man.
Hoo wee!
Rob: I think he bought every freaking pedal car
and car part - holy cow.
Jersey Jon: Man...
Rob: Jersey, what's up with those bicycles over there?
Jersey Jon: What bicycles? Rob: Right there.
Jersey Jon: Oh my God!
Man, they are packed in there!
Rob: Dude, I'm telling you. I'm trying to...
Jersey Jon: Oh, this one on the bottom is cool!
They're both wooden rim.
Rob: Whoa, there's a cat raccoon!
Jersey Jon: Yeah?
Rob: He's right there. He just ran over.
Jersey Jon: Whoa!
I think I just stepped on his head.
Rob: No, I'm serious, he was right there.
Jersey Jon: There he is! Rob: You see him?
Jersey Jon: He's going out. Yep.
Rob: There he is. Jersey Jon: He's out.
He ain't out, he's still sitting there. I see his tail.
I don't like raccoons, man,
they freaking - I don't care how big you are, they come at you.
Jersey Jon: This is cool, man. Imperial.
Rob: Is that wooden wheel? Red: Yeah.
Jersey Jon: Yeah, this is - and the head badge -
1901 Imperial.
Rob: Wow.
Jersey Jon: The first thing I'm looking for
when I see a pile of bicycles is wooden rims
because that's an indication that it's an early bicycle.
And they used them on early motorcycles as well.
Jersey Jon: The 1901 Thomas motorcycle, I love those things.
They all started out on bicycles.
So, at the turn of the century
you could put a Thomas motor in here and made a motorcycle.
That's the first time they were doing it, 1901, 1900.
Red: Oh yeah.
Jersey Jon: So, that's what's cool about this bike.
Rob: And it's got both wheels.
Jersey Jon: It's got both wheels
and see this special rim in here?
Red: Oh yeah.
Jersey Jon: That's a Gormully and Jeffery rim, man.
It's a wooden rim,
but it's - Gormully and Jeffery made these rims specifically...
Red: You sure know your bicycles.
Jersey Jon: Oh yeah. I love this stuff.
So, these are original rims for this bike.
Rob: Anybody that is into early motorcycles
is into the early bicycles, you know.
Jersey is cut from the same cloth as my brother.
He just goes berserko.
Jersey Jon: It's got the right front hubs,
it's got the right handlebars on it,
it's got the pedals, the pedals are getting hard to find.
They're not wore out. You see the tops?
Red: Yep.
Jersey Jon: Pretty cool, man.
I mean, to find these things, you know,
in this condition is kind of hard.
Let me see, the back - the back rim is straight,
the front rim is straight.
Red: Oh yeah.
Jersey Jon: It doesn't have any paint left on it,
it's rusty, but it can be cleaned up.
What I don't like about it - you see that dent?
Red: Oh yeah.
Jersey Jon: On the seat stay? Red: Oh yeah.
Jersey Jon: That sucks. Rob: Yeah.
Jersey Jon: It's hard to get out.
Red: You got to heat it and then tap it.
Jersey Jon: Right.
So, it's a lot of work, basically.
Then what do you got?
You put a lot more time in this bicycle than it's worth.
I wish it was a little better condition.
I'm going to say 300 bucks.
Red: 500.
Jersey Jon: You're talking 500, I'm talking 300.
Meet me in the middle, man.
Red: 450.
Red: I bought them years and years ago.
I didn't know I had one that old.
I wasn't real crazy about selling them.
Red: I know bicycles are expensive.
Jersey Jon: I know, they're getting up there,
but this one needs some help.
Red: You wouldn't believe what I could get
for that chain drive I got out there.
Jersey Jon: A chainless one you mean?
Red: Yeah.
Jersey Jon: A chainless one? Red: Yeah.
It's a shaft-driven, not a chain.
Jersey Jon: Yeah! I want to see that!
Rob: Shaft-driven? Jersey Jon: I want to see that!
Jersey Jon: Alright, so listen. I want to buy that one too.
Let's buy this one first.
Red: I doubt if you'll buy that one.
Jersey Jon: Well, let's see. Alright.
I want to see this chainless. Red: 450.
Jersey Jon: 450? Red: 450.
Jersey Jon: I'll do it, dude. Thank you, man.
Woo!
Rich: What that is, that's a GT fuel tank.
It's bigger.
Mike: I noticed it was oversized.
Rich: Yeah. It's oversized from the original T5 tank.
They, you know, a lot of the Carreras had them.
They used them for racecars,
but he was definitely - looks like - building an Outlaw.
Rich: The Outlaw trend is real big in the market right now.
What it does is it allows the individual to personalize
their car, kind of hotrod it a little bit.
Not be a purist in the restoration.
Mike: Like, right here.
This is - this is rear glass but it's plexiglass for this car.
It's a '57. Rich: Right.
But he was more than likely - again,
he was building an Outlaw.
Mike: For Rich to grace me with his presence
when I know he's got a busy shop
back there in Columbia, Tennessee, it's a big deal.
But, you know, sitting here listening to him talk
and looking over these cars,
this is exactly the reason why I wanted him with me.
Rich: You know, see if we can turn it up.
Mike: What about this engine, here?
Did this one come out of one of these cars?
Rich: Yeah, that's an earlier number,
that's probably an A number.
Mike: P64188. Rich: P641...
Mike: Yeah, here, look it.
He's got this sitting right here.
Rich: Yeah, see, now that
- that particular engine is a 1600 Normal.
It is a '57 engine, but it's from March production and later.
This is an early A engine
but it's not the correct engine for that car.
Mike: Because of the beehive taillights.
Rich: Correct.
Mike: Because he's saying the beehive taillights
on that car were only in the first 4 months of production.
Rich: Yeah, first 3 months. Yeah.
And then this- Mike: Okay,
so this would be a later production '57.
Mike: Even though Rich has seen a lot of this stuff before,
he's been in this business for a long time,
he still is trying to figure out
the mystery of what we're looking at.
So, he's taking all of the clues and adding them up to, hey,
this is not a numbers matching car,
this engine did not come out of this -
this car when it left the factory.
If he would've been telling me this stuff in text messages
and me sending him pictures,
I mean it would've been completely confusing to me.
Mike: Okay, yeah. See...
Rich: Okay, here's another engine right here.
Mike: He's got a whole 'nother engine.
It's taken down completely.
Rich: Yeah, he's got a ton of parts in here.
Richard: If you think these parts are a lot,
let me take you upstairs.
Rich: Alright, yeah! Richard: And show you upstairs.
Rich: Sounds great. Mike: Okay.
Richard: I thought they were two kids in a candy store
when they started looking at the Porsche parts.
Mike: Wow! Rich: There's a lot going on in here.
Mike: Oh, whoa...
[rock music]
[weak horn]
Rob: Red! Awooga horns. There's two.
[weak horn]
45 bucks.
Red: Ah... Rob: For the pair!
Red: Make it 75.
Rob: 60. Red: Okay.
Rob: That work? Red: Yeah.
Rob: Alright, thanks. Jersey Jon: Thanks buddy.
Rob: I know you know what that is, Red.
Red: Yeah.
Rob: That's what everybody wants on the front bumper.
60 bucks.
Red: Oof.
75. Rob: Done.
Every time you go 'oof' I know what's going on.
'Oof!'
Jersey Jon: We're starting to read your language.
Jersey Jon: When you hear that 'ugh' from Red...
Jersey Jon: 20 bucks.
Red: Hm...
Jersey Jon: It's like, you know,
somebody just punched him in the gut or something, you know.
It's like he's not happy with that price
and we got to work it.
Rob: This whole stack. 200 bucks.
Jersey Jon: He's got to shingle a roof.
Red: 250.
Them tins are hard to pick up anymore.
Rob: [sighs]
Two and a quarter.
Red: [laughs]
Jersey Jon: He got you? Did he get you?
Rob: I got you, didn't I? Red: 250.
Jersey Jon: [laughs]
Good for you, Red!
Jersey Jon: Here's your oil bottle racks.
Red: Yeah. I got all kinds of them.
Jersey Jon: You got a lot.
Red: Here's some here, there's some, there's some behind you.
Jersey Jon: It's nice to see them complete like this.
Red: Oh yeah. Jersey Jon: Imagine that.
You put oil in your car like that back in the day?
Jersey Jon: These oil bottles are really cool.
This is the way they got oil into your car
at the service station.
They would bring it in a bottle with the funnel on it.
Red: I remember when they used to wash your windshield,
check the oil...
Jersey Jon: That was back in the day.
Red: They don't even say hi to you anymore.
Jersey Jon: No. Not anymore, man.
Jersey Jon: When you see oil bottles like that
with the complete racks, the tops are all there,
the funnels are there, you got to buy them.
Jersey Jon: 100 bucks a rack.
Red: That's 5...
Jersey Jon: I can make a little money,
you can make a little money.
Rob: 500 bucks.
Jersey Jon: 500 bucks for all of them.
Red: 550 for all of them.
Jersey Jon: Alright, give me your hand.
Red: [laughs]
Jersey Jon: Remember how to do it.
Thank you so much. 550!
Red: Yeah. Jersey Jon: Alright!
Rob: You live in this house now, Red?
Red: Oh yeah. Rob: Oh.
Red: Live by myself.
Jersey Jon: Yeah, baby. You got some toys.
Rob: Red, you saved all the good stuff. It's all in here.
This is all the original paint pedal cars right here.
Red: I run my own business for 59 years.
I kept my collection in a body shop.
When I sold the business over there,
I brought all my toys, my collection over here.
Truckload after truckload.
Red: I never eat here.
Rob: I was gonna say, when's the last time you had dinner here?
Jersey Jon: [laughs] Yeah, I guess not!
Rob: There's something about being a bachelor
that you got to love.
Red: I do. Makes it easy. Rob: Look at this case here!
How do you even open that?
Jersey Jon: It's a China closet full of Farmall.
That's like an art installation! Rob: Wow!
Rob: When guys start collecting toys,
they get into the stuff that's rusty, broken, cracked.
But over the years, you usually sell that stuff off
and then you buy the better stuff.
Red, I don't think the guy's ever sold anything.
Every crevice of this house,
these buildings are full to the top.
We are standing in Red's 401k. This is it.
Rob: Did you have no toys when you were growing up?
Red: I got up at 3:00 in the morning
and took off to make money.
Rob: And the money brought the toys.
Red: Money brought the toys.
Rob: You're like, "I'm having it all.
"I'm having it all." Red: I paid for everything.
Red: Never had a pedal car.
Mom and dad provided as much as they could.
Of course, I was born in '36.
Things was rough then.
Rob: Well, you're not a throwaway guy.
Red: No, I'm not a throwaway guy
because you can make money out of it.
Jersey Jon: Yeah, make some money out of it.
Rob: Red is one of those guys
that grew up in the Great Depression.
He didn't have time to play.
So, as he got older,
these are things that he missed out on as a kid.
Jersey Jon: The quantity of toys you have is phenomenal.
Jersey Jon: Check out -
this is a little Weeden steam engine I just...
Rob: Is that a toy, Jersey?
Jersey Jon: It's a toy. Red: It's a steamer.
Jersey Jon: It's a little steam toy.
Jersey Jon: The steam engine toy is a really popular kids' toy
because it opens up your imagination
on how everything was built.
Steam locomotion, steam engine-powered factories.
So, this Weeden steam engine,
you got that thing boiling away
and you were like blowing the whistle
and you were like powering with that little wheel -
maybe you have a little, like a little tool on the end of that.
Man, it's so exciting for a kid to have that.
You know, I still love these things.
Jersey Jon: Box full of Li'l-
Red: Got two sets of them. Dog patch.
Rob: Li'l Abner. Jersey Jon: The dog patches.
Rob: Yeah. Jersey Jon: Yep.
Red: I got two sets of dog patches.
Jersey Jon: Well, you got another one in here.
You got a whole box of them.
Red: Oh yeah.
Jersey Jon: The Li'l Abner toy's really cool.
It's a tin toy, it's really decorative.
It's an action toy.
It's got a lot going on when you wind it up.
You can take a part off of one, put it on another one
and make it complete.
That's kind of what's going on here.
Jersey Jon: What do you got to get out of these, Red?
Red: 200 for both.
Jersey Jon: 200 for both of these?
Red: Mhm.
Jersey Jon: What about the extra piece?
Red: Hm, oh yeah.
Jersey Jon: I mean, it's pretty - it's missing everything.
Red: What would you get for that?
Jersey Jon: So, you want 200 for these?
Red: Yeah.
Jersey Jon: How about you throw the steam engine in - ah.
And we call it...
Red: That would be 300 then.
Jersey Jon: Hmm. Yeah. 275. Red: Augh!
Jersey Jon: What do you think? Red: 300.
Jersey Jon: Alright. I'll do the 300. You got it, buddy.
Red: Okay. Jersey Jon: Thank you. Awesome.
Mike: What are you thinking, man?
Rich: There's a lot of parts. Mike: [laughs] Yeah.
There's a lot of parts.
Rich: Yeah, he was certainly
parting out cars for a long time.
Mike: A collection this big, somebody's life's work,
is very personal.
And even though Richard has known Fred
for a number of years,
that doesn't mean he knew him as a collector.
What he was into, what he was building,
the stuff that really got him excited.
Yes, he saw him drive his 356 Porsche,
and yes, he saw him around these cars but, you know,
he wasn't able to do the forensics like Rich is doing.
Rich is going through this collection and he's like,
hey, this is the type of car he was building.
And we're getting to know Fred that way.
Mike: I'm interested in the cars.
Richard: Okay.
Mike: So, are you interested in all the parts?
Rich: Yeah, I mean, there's a tremendous
amount of stuff here but as you see...
Richard: Right.
Rich: ...there's a long road to go through there
so before I'm even willing to start talking price,
we've got to see what's there, inventory it.
So, that's - that's gonna be a down the road kind of thing.
I'd like to come back in a week if it works for you,
we'll see if we can get everything done and make a deal.
Is that fair?
Richard: That's fair enough. Rich: Excellent.
Great. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Mike: Because like - for him,
he could use a lot of this stuff for projects, but also too,
I mean, you know, it's a long game on the parts.
Richard: Right.
Mike: I love what Rich is saying here.
He's saying, hey, I'm interested in the parts pile
but for me to be fair with you,
I have to actually pull all this stuff out of the attic,
go through every single tub,
you know, dig to the back end of these shelves
to be able to come up with a number
that's fair for you and fair for me.
So, I'm glad that he's willing to work with Rich
and allow Rich to come back
and kind of dissect everything more
so it can be beneficial to both of them.
Richard: This one I'd like to put together on my own
to see if I can.
Rich: Okay. Mike: Okay.
Richard: That one, I'd be willing to get rid of.
Mike: Okay.
Rich: And everything we can scramble that's '57 for that?
Richard: I would like to keep one of the Porsches
in Fred's honor.
The '65 Porsche, to me,
looks more similar to the '62 car
that he drove on a daily basis.
Mike: Okay, so what I would love to do is, you know,
get as many parts for the '57 together as we can.
I mean, there's some that have boxes upstairs that say that.
What are you thinking?
Richard: I've got to leave here at 6.
So, we only got a couple hours to pull parts.
Mike: Oh, really?
You got to leave early? Okay. You got to leave.
Richard: Yeah.
Mike: Okay, so... Rich: We got to get busy.
[laughs]
Richard: We got a couple hours.
Let's pull what we can and see what we can come up with.
Mike: Okay. Rich: Sounds like a plan.
Let's do it!
Mike: You want to grab the front end of it?
Mike: So, the plan is to roll the body
outside of the garage, check it out in the sunlight,
walk around it,
really take the temperature of it,
and then start finding these parts
and start putting them around the car.
It's like, you know, let's get the engine out there,
let's get the trans out there, seats out there,
let's get the interior out there,
let's get the headlight buckets out there,
let's find those beehive taillights.
Rich: Alright. You want to hand me that?
Alright.
I'm taking, that should be our windshield.
Mike: Let's just find everything that we can
in two hours to try to make this deal happen.
Rich: Yeah, so we got to get the totes,
we need all the lighting, wiper assembly, door handles,
all the exterior lights, so...
Mike: I didn't know there was gonna be a time limit!
Rob: I see all the original paint stuff. Wow.
Red: Somebody didn't abuse that pedal car.
Rob: No, that's the thing about these pedal cars.
The kids were abusing these things.
I mean, this - this one's not all beat up,
didn't run it into the fence,
didn't run it into the pole.
All the hubcaps are on it.
This is a Murray, 1950, all original paint,
the taillight's on it. Look at the back.
Red: Oh yeah.
Rob: It's very rare to find a toy
that was given to a boy
that is in this pristine condition.
Most boys wanted to beat them up, they wanted to ride on them.
They were used.
This Murray pedal car,
it doesn't even look like the guy used it.
I think he spent his time waxing it.
Maybe his dad didn't let him drive it,
but to find it in this condition is unheard of.
Rob: How much is it, Red?
Red: 500.
Rob: Um...
Red: It takes 5 to get it.
Rob: Can't do 400?
Red: Uh-uhn.
Rob: Want to arm wrestle?
Red: [laughs] No! I might lose.
Rob: [laughs]
I'll tell you what. I'm gonna do it.
Red: Okay.
Rob: I appreciate you selling it to me.
Red: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Rob: Thanks.
Rich: He was doing a plexi car.
Mike: Okay. Rich: Kind of making it a...
Mike: And this is plexi too. Rich: Yep.
Mike: The guy was building an Outlaw,
so like the door glass is not glass, it's plexi.
So, we're trying to kind of walk in his footsteps
and envision what he wanted this project to be,
that's why he has these parts
specifically designated for this car.
It gets the water a little bit muddy, but you know,
I got Rich here leading me down the path.
Rich: Hey, when we go back up, we got to get door glass frames.
I saw those up there.
Mike: Okay.
Mike: I almost feel like this is like
Amazing Race meets Overhaulin'.
You know, we're trying to get this thing
together as fast as we can.
Mike: We got two hours.
Rich: Alright. I don't see gauges,
I got to look for a wiring harness downstairs.
Set of door frames.
There's those, we got our engine liner...
Mike: Did you see the steering column?
Rich: That's C, that's not for the car.
Mike: Okay, that's C. Okay.
Rich: It makes for a pretty challenging day
when there are parts in multi levels of a building,
everything's labelled, there's things mixed,
but you just got to stay focused,
understand the task at hand which is,
"I'm trying to gather parts for a 356 A."
Mike: Rich! Rich: Yeah, what do you got?
Mike: Okay, there's uh...
there's a lot of different stuff here.
There's hood handles, chrome parts...
look at all this.
Look at this. Rich: Oh man. Okay. Yep.
Mike: Look at this stuff.
Rich: Yeah, that's where all his bright and finished stuff is.
Okay.
Mike: Okay, so, you want to - you want to check through that?
Rich: Yep.
Mike: Rich and I are double-teaming this thing
and we are going through it as thoroughly as we can.
When we pull these drawers open, they're packed, man.
They're packed with so much stuff.
This is where all the little gingerbread stuff is.
Mike: This is taillight stuff. Here's a reverse light.
Rich: Yeah. Next thing is to start looking for beehive stuff.
Yeah, see, this is all - that's all late '59 stuff.
Mike: Yeah, we need beehive.
Richard: Yeah, Fred was famous for buying parts.
Mike: Here, man.
Rich: Boy, he collected and collected.
Mike: Beehive, there we go. Rich: There we go.
Mike: That's one - there's one. There's two.
We need four of those.
Mike: I knew there was no way
I was gonna be able to do this pick on my own.
Mike: Here, is this it?
Rich: No, that's late. Mike: Damn.
Mike: Rich has turned into the boss today.
He's the conductor.
He's telling me and Richard what to do, what to grab.
It's like, "Here, grab this, move that."
He's rising to the occasion, man.
Rich: Here you go.
Mike: Outlaw. Rich: Right?
I've got a tack, a speedo, and a combination gauge.
So, we're good there.
Mike: Rich from J-3 is on fire, and I'm just following his lead.
Rob: You got more cars in here. Wow!
Red: There's a - there's a Wildcat.
Rob: That's a Wildcat!
Red: '69 Wildcat. Rob: Yeah!
Jersey Jon: Wow, it's a Cleveland!
Red: That's one right there.
Jersey Jon: That's cool...
Jersey Jon: So, it's a Cleveland shaft-drive bicycle,
and shaft-drive bicycle means there's no chain on it.
Jersey Jon: This is where the chain would go
and it's not there.
Jersey Jon: The reason why they're getting rid of the chain
is because guys would get, like, grease on their pants.
Ladies would get grease on their skirts
when they're riding these bicycles.
So, the appeal of a shaft-drive bicycle,
it doesn't have a greasy chain.
I mean, it had gears on each end
that drove the bicycle rear wheel.
So, it's really great engineering.
Jersey Jon: It's got the accessory light on here
which is really neat, you know?
Jersey Jon: The little spring-loaded light,
the little carbide light that went in there.
Jersey Jon: One of the reasons why these bicycles are so rare
because they were hard to manufacture.
They were expensive to manufacture.
This is the top-of-the-line of bicycling
of the turn of the century
and it's something that never caught on.
Red: A guy ran me to hell and back on it.
I said, "I'm gonna get it."
Rob: You got it at an auction then?
Red: I got 3,000 in it.
Jersey Jon: Whoa... Rob: Holy cow!
Red: [laughs] That's what I got it for!
Jersey Jon: You must really like this thing, man.
Red: I'd never seen one before!
Red: When I go to auction, people just get up -
they don't try to bid on me because I ran them all out.
I went 3,000 on that one bicycle.
Jersey Jon: You stepped up, dude.
Red: Yeah.
Jersey Jon: You paid - you paid all the money for it.
Rob: This is one of those deals that Red was at the auction
and he wasn't gonna let the young whippersnapper
get up on him.
He was gonna buy it, and that's exactly what he did!
Jersey Jon: This bicycle is super cool,
but it's beyond my reach.
You're in it for more than I want to entertain.
But these other ones here, let's talk about those.
[rock music]
Rich: There's an early one.
Mike: There's an early one. Rich: So, there's an early one.
Mike: Here we go.
Rich: And there's your badge. Yep.
Mike: And there's my badge. Look at that. I found something!
Rich: Yay! Mike: [laughs]
Mike: Okay, see what we're talking about?
It's like trying to find every single piece for a car,
and how that, like...
I'm just hoping - I'm hoping he's guiding us somehow.
I'm hoping he's guiding us.
Rich: It sounds great in theory
but the application isn't always easy.
Mike: I'm hoping he's guiding us.
Rich: The one thing that really needs to be appreciated
is Fred's dedication to his collection.
He cared for it and loved it, I'm sure,
just by the way he individually labelled everything,
documented everything.
It was clear he had a purpose for it going forward.
Mike: Outlaw wheels!
Have you been calculating all of this in your mind?
Rich: Absolutely not.
Mike: [laughs]
Richard: These guys need to hurry up
because I got an appointment that I have to be at by 6,
so we're gonna have to hurry.
Mike: This goes - oh, here's the carburetors right here, Rich!
Rich: That may be the Holy Grail of what we're looking for, here.
You've got intakes, you've got a set of Solex 2s...
Mike: Here, Rich, look at this.
Oh yeah. Come to Daddy.
Rich: What you want... Mike: Look it, right here.
Rich: ...is something that's been machined.
That's what we're looking for. That's Weber's.
Mike: Every time I find something,
I'm letting Rich know that I found it
because I feel like I have to contribute in some way
and I'm trying to make this chaotic situation
a little bit fun
so when I came across the carburetor honey hole,
I'm like, "Rich! This is it! Look at all these carbs!"
Rich and I's relationship
has always been a little bit competitive to begin with.
Mike: How much time we got?
Richard: An hour.
Mike: [laughs] Okay...
Rich: I'm gonna go see
if I can put hands on a windshield wiper assembly.
Richard: There's a steering column.
Rich: That's the one we've been looking for.
Let's see what we got.
Okay, horn ring, miscellaneous bricks...
spoils to the victor.
[laughs]
We got it! Alright, perfect.
Richard: We hit the jackpot.
Mike: Did you? Richard: Yep.
Rich: Found what we needed.
Got the correct steering column, found the wiper assembly.
That's the one elusive tote that we've been looking for.
Rob: Here, Jersey.
It's got a hand grenade and it's a cane made out of bullets.
Jersey Jon: Oh!
Rob: It's like folk art stuff, man.
That thing's cool. Everybody needs that.
Jersey Jon: .50 caliber bullets.
It's probably like a piece of trench art.
60 bucks, come on.
Red: 75.
Jersey Jon: [laughs] You got me, man!
That was good, Red. Red: Yeah!
Jersey Jon: Alright, I'll do you 75 on that.
That is cool.
Jersey Jon: Red is an old school guy, man.
He's the salt of the earth.
I'm hoping that I'm as sharp as he is when I'm his age.
Jersey Jon: This Elgin is cool. Rob: Yeah.
Jersey Jon: And also, this bike is cool. This motobike.
Rob: Anything that's got the tank on it.
Red: And that's got the gas tank.
Rob: Yeah. Red: With it.
Jersey Jon: Yeah. This is probably like a 1918,
1920 bicycle that's supposed to look like a motorcycle.
Red: Yep.
Jersey Jon: The whole idea is they got the motobike
handlebars like you're riding an old Indian or Harley.
Jersey Jon: The motobike era started around
right before World War 1.
1914, 1913.
That's when the introduction of the toolbox tank
is coming in, the twin rails up top.
So, this was a time they were trying to
copy or emulate the motorcycle.
As you're a kid, man, you see these guys
like the cops riding around,
or your father riding around on an old motorcycle,
you want to be that guy.
Rob: Look at the lights on that thing.
Jersey Jon: This has got an overpaint on it,
you can see the red paint on it,
you can see it's kind of really poorly done porch paint job.
Rob: Still cool.
Jersey Jon: There's a head badge on it,
you can't see on the head badge, it doesn't say anything, Robbie.
It's just like totally wiped out.
Is this something you want to sell?
Red: Oh yeah.
Jersey Jon: You got 3000 in this too?
Red: No, no. Jersey Jon: Good.
Rob: [laughs]
Jersey Jon: We're going in the right direction.
What about this Elgin?
This Elgin is really nice, it's got the head badge,
the paint... Rob: Wooden wheels.
Jersey Jon: It's got wooden wheels.
Red: Oh yeah. Rob: Yeah.
Jersey Jon: Elgin is a little bit higher quality bicycle.
This is a little bit later.
I'd say probably 1920, '25.
It's got the rear rack, the seat on it
has had a little work on it, it's got the Troxel seat.
It's got the motobike bars.
Maybe it's a little - maybe it's 1920 with that bar.
How's the wheel, straight, or no?
Rob: This back wheel is straight as an arrow.
Jersey Jon: Yeah? How's the front?
Rob: Very rare to find wooden wheels that are straight.
Red: Yeah. Jersey Jon: Right, exactly.
Front wheel is good.
Red: They've been in the garage for years.
Rob: I know, but the moisture gets in them
and they just warp out.
Jersey Jon: You can see that they put a little bit more
quality in the build, the paint.
Elgin bicycles are like probably top of the line bicycles
that are early '20s.
Jersey Jon: What do you think?
[country music]
Jersey Jon: We're not lighting the world on fire.
Red: 550 for that one.
About 5 for this one.
Red: He was really on that one bike.
I said, uh-oh, I think I'm going to milk him a little bit.
[laughs]
I seized right on it!
Jersey Jon: Would a grand buy them?
Red: 1050.
Jersey Jon: I'll tell you what, you do a grand, I'm going.
Red: Oh!
Jersey Jon: Yeah? Thanks, buddy.
Red: It's yours then. Jersey Jon: Alright!
Yeah, they're nice.
I mean, the Elgin is cool, they're both motorbikes.
You know, it's like a kid riding a motorcycle down the road.
Red: Oh, let me show you a high price pedal car.
It's a Columbia.
Rob: Oh, wow! Wow!
Red: 1800s. Rob: Yeah.
That's late 1800s, early 1900s.
Red: I had an artist re-scratch it.
Rob: Oh, you actually had that repainted?
Jersey Jon: What, the front?
Red: Yeah, the front and the sides. It says Columbia on it.
Jersey Jon: What? Oh, he repainted that?
Rob: Oh, you can see it. I see it now.
Jersey Jon: You can see it. Red: I said, what do you charge?
He says 300.
Jersey Jon: It's a nice pedal car for sure.
It's an early one.
Jersey Jon: 1890s pedal car is kind of an anomaly.
Cars weren't really around 1890s,
those are just the beginnings of automotive technology
going on there.
So, to see an 1890s pedal car is kind of rare.
Jersey Jon: It's nicer to have these things
in original, of course.
Rob: Well, it's like anything.
But, it's like anything - it exists.
Rob: Red didn't repaint this whole car.
He just touched things up on it
to make it so you can still read Columbia on it.
I'm not, like, turned off by it,
but it does hurt the value a little bit.
It's not 100% original.
Rob: But all the pedals are in there.
I mean everything's here.
Rob: It doesn't matter what kind of pedal car collector
you are, you want to find the earliest pieces.
This starts it right here.
Rob: How much you want to sell it for?
Red: 1250.
Jersey Jon: What do you think, Robbie?
Rob: Can I argue with you a little bit?
Red: Go ahead.
[all laughing]
Red: Argue all you want to.
Jersey Jon: He can change the price!
Rob: He ain't changing the price!
Red: It's like the body shop.
I had a lot of arguments in the body shop.
Rob: I can only imagine. Jersey Jon: Yeah, I bet, man.
Red: Seven days and nights a week.
Jersey Jon: Did you really? Red: Yeah.
Rob: You were doing it before they had the respirators
and all the others.
Jersey Jon: Did you really? Red: Oh yeah.
Rob: Well, think about that.
Jersey Jon: But your lungs are clear.
Red: My lungs are clear.
Jersey Jon: How is that - that's amazing, dude.
Rob: How old are you? Red: 87.
Jersey Jon: Man, that's great.
That's amazing. Rob: Yeah.
Red: I'm damn lucky.
Jersey Jon: You got some good genes.
Red: Oh yeah.
I argued with a guy who said 850.
Take it or leave it.
I said, okay.
Rob: 850? Red: 1250.
Rob: Oh. Didn't he just say 850?
Jersey Jon: He said... He was talking about another guy.
Rob: Oh. Oh. Another guy!
Jersey Jon: Another guy said take it or leave it,
he said, well, you're gonna leave it.
Rob: I'll take it for 1250.
Red: 1250. Rob: 1250.
Red: I knew you would. Jersey Jon: It's cool.
Rob: He goes, I knew you would! Jersey Jon: It's cool.
Jersey Jon: Red was really great.
He was a fantastic guy to hang out with.
He knows what the value of these things are.
The way he went to yard sales, garage sales, flea markets,
all these other, like, machinery shows
and he built his collection.
He's surrounded by the things he loves.
Red: Bunch of old parts.
Rob: It's not been a bad day. I can tell you that.
Here, grab that one. Throw her in there to Jersey.
Jersey Jon: Thank you, Red.
Red: Rob and Jersey gave fair prices and that's what I liked.
Really, I got so much stuff, I don't miss anything.
I'll stick with it 'til I'm gone.
[laughs]
Jersey Jon: Thank you for sharing
your collection with us.
Red: Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Jersey Jon: It was really cool selling us some stuff.
Red: Oh yeah.
Jersey Jon: And we lightened your load a little bit, buddy!
[laughs] Rob: Thank you.
Dan: Nice meeting you. Rob: Thank you guys.
Red, appreciate you, man. Red: Okay.
[honk] Rob: Thank you!
Jersey Jon: Thank you!
Rich: Well, we found the most important stuff
we were looking for.
Mike: Would you say it's like 90% complete?
Rich: Yeah, I think that's fair. Mike: Okay.
Rich: I think that's reasonable because in this timeframe,
you know, trying to snatch up every little piece,
it's not uh... it's not the easiest thing to do.
Mike: Once we've come to the end of the road
on finding all of the parts that we possibly could for this car,
now we need to step back, look at what's there,
dig a little bit deeper into the body itself,
what needs to be done,
the amount of money it's going to cost to do that.
And then have Rich come up with a number.
Rich: There's still some metal to be done on this car.
I mean, you've got your spare tire well that needs to be done,
there's some work that needs to be done
on the bottom of the uh, under the rear torsion.
It's not a paint-ready car.
Mike: Okay. Rich: It's not ready for paint.
Mike: So, what's the number you think I can get for it?
Just like this.
If I sold it with the parts and said, hey, this is a 90% car,
you know, where do I need to be on it?
Rich: For somebody who wants to do their own build,
they've got a lot of the hard stuff already done,
already acquired.
I think 45 is a stretch. I think 40 is solid.
I think that's your-
Mike: So, I can get 40 out of it?
Rich: Yeah, I think that's your good retail number.
Mike: Alright, so basically what we're doing
is we're talking about,
you know, how much we could sell the car for just like this.
Rich was saying 40,000 is what we could get for the car.
Rich: Yeah, I think the retail number as she sits,
everything there,
I think 40 is a fair number for somebody to buy it.
Richard: Okay.
Rich: And then honestly, it's probably the perfect project
for somebody who wants to do a home build
because if you bring this to my shop,
there's so much man hours that need to be done.
Mike: Yeah, like, what -
just to even assemble it, what would...
Rich: I mean, you're talking to be able to go through,
set up a wiring harness, switch - you know, several weeks.
Mike: Some of this stuff I can take today
and fit in the van, obviously, um...
But I still have to ship this, so...
Richard: Right.
Rich: I think for you to be able to take care of the back end,
I think 25 is a solid number for what's here.
You know?
'Cause yeah, you still got shipping,
still got to go through everything,
we still have to go through the process
of getting it ready for sale.
Richard: Um. Could you do 30?
Mike: Do you have titles for these?
Richard: I do.
Mike: Alright, I'm gonna do 30.
Richard: Thank you.
Mike: Alright, man. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Woo!
Rich: Well, that was a fun day. [laughs]
Mike: That was like speed picking, man!
Rich: Man! Mike: Oh my gosh!
Rich: Being able to buy the car for 30 grand
I think leaves Mike a little bit of room on the back end
to be able to make money
but still have an affordable project
that somebody can build going forward.
Rich: On my end with the parts, you're good.
I'll get with you in a week or so
and we still got a good deal, correct?
Richard: We got a deal. Rich: Alright. Thank you, sir.
We really appreciate it. Thank you very much.
Richard: Considering the shape of the car,
I think Mike gave me a fair price.
Mike: Dani will get a hold of you guys...
Richard: Okay.
Mike: ...on shipping the body
and then what's left as far as the parts.
Richard: Thank you again.
Mike: I think Fred was channeling us.
Richard: Yes. Rich: Oh yeah. [laughs]
Mike: Seriously, there was a lot of stuff
I was giving up on finding
and then I was like... okay, it's over here.
Rich: He was smiling, for sure.
Richard: I appreciate you all coming.
Rich: Thank you, sir. Be safe. Take care.
Mike: This collection was Fred's life's work,
and as much as he shared it when he was alive,
the biggest decision and gift of all
was passing it onto the right people
that could benefit from it the most.
[honk]
Mike: See you down the road! Rich: Thank you!
Richard: Alright. Thanks, Mike!
Rich: See you. Take care! Richard: Thanks, Rich!