1 00:00:02,419 --> 00:00:05,629 NARRATOR: Terrifying encounters at 40,000 feet. 2 00:00:05,714 --> 00:00:07,554 So I kind of looked over my left shoulder, 3 00:00:07,633 --> 00:00:09,843 and there’s this bright light in our face. 4 00:00:09,927 --> 00:00:11,177 It’s a pulsating orb. 5 00:00:11,261 --> 00:00:13,101 Look at that, dude. Look at that. 6 00:00:13,222 --> 00:00:15,272 NARRATOR: Pilot accounts of UFOs 7 00:00:15,390 --> 00:00:17,390 taking control of their aircraft. 8 00:00:17,476 --> 00:00:19,386 BILL BIRNES: Goes to move the yoke, 9 00:00:19,478 --> 00:00:21,398 and the yoke is moving on itself. 10 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,440 If it climbs any further, 11 00:00:23,565 --> 00:00:25,065 it will stall out. 12 00:00:25,192 --> 00:00:27,532 NARRATOR: And entire jumbo jets 13 00:00:27,611 --> 00:00:29,491 disappearing into thin air. 14 00:00:29,571 --> 00:00:32,241 How do you have a commercial airliner just vanish? 15 00:00:32,366 --> 00:00:34,526 NARRATOR: Since the dawn of aviation, 16 00:00:34,618 --> 00:00:39,158 pilots have experienced unexplainable events in the sky. 17 00:00:39,248 --> 00:00:42,378 Is it possible that what they have witnessed 18 00:00:42,459 --> 00:00:45,379 are aliens in our airspace? 19 00:00:45,462 --> 00:00:48,762 GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS: When you have thousands of pilots 20 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:51,432 coming forward with encounters 21 00:00:51,552 --> 00:00:53,432 that they’ve witnessed up in the sky, 22 00:00:53,554 --> 00:00:54,894 with so-called UFOs, 23 00:00:54,972 --> 00:00:56,432 I think we should pay more attention 24 00:00:56,557 --> 00:00:58,637 to what these pilots have been saying. 25 00:01:00,978 --> 00:01:03,148 NARRATOR: There is a doorway 26 00:01:03,272 --> 00:01:05,942 in the universe. 27 00:01:06,024 --> 00:01:09,114 Beyond it is the promise of truth. 28 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:12,661 It demands we question everything 29 00:01:12,781 --> 00:01:14,951 we have ever been taught. 30 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:19,285 The evidence is all around us. 31 00:01:19,371 --> 00:01:22,751 The future is right before our eyes. 32 00:01:22,833 --> 00:01:25,463 We are not alone. 33 00:01:25,544 --> 00:01:29,094 We have never been alone. 34 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:41,480 In 2017, The New York Times broke the story 35 00:01:41,602 --> 00:01:44,312 of the U.S. government’s secret investigations 36 00:01:44,396 --> 00:01:46,976 into unexplained aerial phenomena. 37 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:49,357 And in the years that followed, 38 00:01:49,484 --> 00:01:51,954 a number of sensational UFO videos 39 00:01:52,029 --> 00:01:55,119 have been released, or leaked, to the public. 40 00:01:58,619 --> 00:02:00,409 NARRATOR: Nearly all of the footage 41 00:02:00,495 --> 00:02:02,455 was recorded by cameras 42 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:04,829 mounted on U.S. Navy fighter jets. 43 00:02:04,916 --> 00:02:07,496 The videos captured the public’s 44 00:02:07,628 --> 00:02:10,838 imagination like no other UFO images 45 00:02:10,922 --> 00:02:12,132 that had come before them... 46 00:02:14,926 --> 00:02:17,176 But Navy pilots are not alone 47 00:02:17,304 --> 00:02:20,684 in witnessing unidentified flying objects. 48 00:02:21,892 --> 00:02:23,982 For decades, shocking encounters 49 00:02:24,061 --> 00:02:26,351 have been reported by non-military, 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,060 civilian pilots. 51 00:02:29,024 --> 00:02:31,364 UAP sightings by commercial airline pilots 52 00:02:31,443 --> 00:02:35,493 are a lot more commonplace than what we generally think of. 53 00:02:36,657 --> 00:02:39,827 We’ve seen a lot of the footage from the military, 54 00:02:39,910 --> 00:02:42,790 but we’re actually getting a lot more reports 55 00:02:42,871 --> 00:02:45,211 from our civilian pilots. 56 00:02:45,332 --> 00:02:47,882 There are more civilian pilots than military pilots. 57 00:02:48,001 --> 00:02:50,711 And you have 58 00:02:50,796 --> 00:02:53,546 an exponentially larger amount of flights 59 00:02:53,674 --> 00:02:55,054 with commercial airlines 60 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:57,675 than you do with military airplanes. 61 00:03:04,142 --> 00:03:07,192 NARRATOR: Japan Airlines Flight 1628 62 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:09,770 is carrying cargo from Paris, France 63 00:03:09,898 --> 00:03:13,228 to Narita International Airport near Tokyo. 64 00:03:13,318 --> 00:03:15,398 The three-person crew 65 00:03:15,529 --> 00:03:18,199 is led by Captain Kenju Terauchi, 66 00:03:18,281 --> 00:03:22,581 an ex-fighter pilot with over 10,000 hours of flight time. 67 00:03:23,704 --> 00:03:26,124 As the 747 approaches Anchorage, 68 00:03:26,248 --> 00:03:30,038 Captain Terauchi notices two strange lights 69 00:03:30,127 --> 00:03:32,247 out of his cockpit window. 70 00:03:33,338 --> 00:03:36,258 It’s dark. It’s, uh, very early morning. Before sunrise. 71 00:03:39,469 --> 00:03:42,259 These lights are clearly maneuvering. 72 00:03:42,347 --> 00:03:44,597 They are, in relationship to each other, 73 00:03:44,683 --> 00:03:46,563 one is on top of the other, 74 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:49,733 and they move directly in front of his aircraft. 75 00:03:51,273 --> 00:03:53,943 Now, he’s flying at about 500 miles per hour. 76 00:03:55,527 --> 00:03:57,107 These things are pacing him. 77 00:03:58,739 --> 00:04:01,529 NARRATOR: Captain Terauchi realizes the lights 78 00:04:01,616 --> 00:04:04,616 are strange oval-shaped flying objects, 79 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:09,125 and they are getting dangerously close to his aircraft. 80 00:04:09,207 --> 00:04:12,127 As bright lights fill the cockpit, 81 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:14,960 Captain Terauchi radios 82 00:04:15,046 --> 00:04:17,256 the Anchorage Air Traffic Control Center 83 00:04:17,340 --> 00:04:21,680 and asks if they can identify the objects near his plane. 84 00:04:53,001 --> 00:04:57,171 NARRATOR: As Terauchi attempts a series of evasive maneuvers 85 00:04:57,255 --> 00:04:59,665 to avoid a potential collision, 86 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,010 the two UFOs suddenly disappear. 87 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:06,560 In their place is another object. 88 00:05:08,058 --> 00:05:12,058 One so large, it dwarfs the 747. 89 00:05:13,855 --> 00:05:19,065 RICHARD DOLAN: His words for describing it were, "gigantic spaceship 90 00:05:19,194 --> 00:05:22,034 the size of maybe two aircraft carriers." 91 00:05:22,113 --> 00:05:23,363 Just immense. 92 00:05:23,490 --> 00:05:27,700 Tarauchi sees this massive thing in the sky, 93 00:05:27,828 --> 00:05:29,448 and he’s scared. 94 00:05:30,622 --> 00:05:32,712 NARRATOR: Concerned by Captain Terauchi’s report, 95 00:05:32,833 --> 00:05:35,543 the air traffic controller calls NORAD, 96 00:05:35,627 --> 00:05:38,877 the North American Aerospace Defense Command, 97 00:05:38,964 --> 00:05:42,844 based at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage. 98 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:46,600 Communication specialists at the airbase 99 00:05:46,721 --> 00:05:50,601 confirm that there is a very large unidentified object 100 00:05:50,725 --> 00:05:53,385 on their radar screens. 101 00:05:53,478 --> 00:05:55,018 Traffic control told them that they could actually 102 00:05:55,105 --> 00:05:57,365 take whatever evasive actions they needed to, 103 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,780 to avoid collision, 104 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:01,280 and they even dropped down to 4,000 feet 105 00:06:01,403 --> 00:06:03,243 above sea level, 106 00:06:03,321 --> 00:06:05,781 and the thing continued to follow them. 107 00:06:05,907 --> 00:06:08,697 RYAN SPRAGUE: Air traffic control diverted another 108 00:06:08,785 --> 00:06:11,195 commercial flight to come look at this UFO. 109 00:06:11,288 --> 00:06:12,958 And by the time they got there, 110 00:06:13,081 --> 00:06:15,251 the UFO was completely gone. 111 00:06:16,501 --> 00:06:18,091 TSOUKALOS: One of the reasons 112 00:06:18,169 --> 00:06:21,839 why the J.A.L. report is such a big deal is because 113 00:06:21,923 --> 00:06:24,763 the corroborating evidence is overwhelming. 114 00:06:26,595 --> 00:06:28,685 Not only were there eyewitness reports, 115 00:06:28,763 --> 00:06:31,433 but there’s the records of the communication systems 116 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:34,268 that Terauchi was in touch with, 117 00:06:34,352 --> 00:06:37,112 actual dialogue that happened. 118 00:06:37,188 --> 00:06:38,818 "Hey, we are up here. 119 00:06:38,940 --> 00:06:40,900 We see this. Are you guys seeing this on your radar?" 120 00:06:40,984 --> 00:06:42,194 All this stuff is recorded. 121 00:06:42,277 --> 00:06:44,607 NARRATOR: Once safely grounded, 122 00:06:44,696 --> 00:06:47,276 Captain Terauchi, his copilot 123 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:50,487 and flight engineer were immediately interviewed 124 00:06:50,619 --> 00:06:53,829 by Alaska Federal Aviation Administration officials 125 00:06:53,955 --> 00:06:56,415 and other special agents. 126 00:06:56,499 --> 00:06:57,959 NICK POPE: There’s an FAA 127 00:06:58,084 --> 00:07:00,464 investigation into this. 128 00:07:00,545 --> 00:07:03,295 There’s lots of documentation. 129 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:07,593 There’s no real, hard and fast conclusion about this. 130 00:07:07,677 --> 00:07:09,967 And so, the pilot, perhaps out of frustration, 131 00:07:10,096 --> 00:07:11,636 talks to the media. 132 00:07:13,141 --> 00:07:18,151 NARRATOR: In December 1986, one month after the encounter, 133 00:07:18,229 --> 00:07:21,229 Captain Terauchi contacted Kyodo News 134 00:07:21,316 --> 00:07:23,646 and said he believed the mysterious crafts 135 00:07:23,735 --> 00:07:26,155 were of extraterrestrial origin. 136 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:29,660 The unauthorized statements 137 00:07:29,783 --> 00:07:31,833 prompted Japan Airlines officials 138 00:07:31,952 --> 00:07:34,832 to remove Captain Terauchi from pilot duty, 139 00:07:34,955 --> 00:07:37,335 and assign him to a desk job. 140 00:07:39,292 --> 00:07:42,342 Around the same time, John Callahan, 141 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:44,262 the FAA’s division chief 142 00:07:44,339 --> 00:07:46,669 of the Accidents and Investigations branch. 143 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,130 learned of the incident 144 00:07:48,218 --> 00:07:51,218 and deemed it worthy of investigation. 145 00:07:52,347 --> 00:07:55,557 DOLAN: John Callahan went to D.C. about this, 146 00:07:55,684 --> 00:07:56,814 and there was a meeting 147 00:07:56,893 --> 00:07:58,393 that was chaired by 148 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,350 one of the top people of the FAA. 149 00:08:00,438 --> 00:08:02,818 This meeting was also attended 150 00:08:02,899 --> 00:08:04,979 by representatives of the FBI, 151 00:08:05,068 --> 00:08:08,198 representatives of the CIA 152 00:08:08,321 --> 00:08:11,531 and representatives of President Reagan’s White House. 153 00:08:11,616 --> 00:08:13,076 They had audiotapes 154 00:08:13,201 --> 00:08:14,541 that were played, 155 00:08:14,619 --> 00:08:17,079 between the pilot and air traffic control, 156 00:08:17,205 --> 00:08:19,035 describing everything that was happening, 157 00:08:19,124 --> 00:08:20,714 and written reports. 158 00:08:20,792 --> 00:08:22,382 And at the end of the meeting, 159 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:25,382 one of the CIA, uh, agents 160 00:08:25,505 --> 00:08:30,215 stood up and said, "This meeting never happened, 161 00:08:30,301 --> 00:08:34,221 "and we’re confiscating all of the data 162 00:08:34,347 --> 00:08:37,057 that has been, uh, shared here." 163 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:38,733 Now, Callahan, 164 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:41,692 he was a little sly, but he was within his rights. 165 00:08:41,771 --> 00:08:44,521 "They never asked me," he said, "if I had a copy 166 00:08:44,607 --> 00:08:47,237 of any of this myself," he said. "Which I did." 167 00:08:48,486 --> 00:08:51,656 He had a copy of the audio recordings, if nothing else. 168 00:08:51,740 --> 00:08:53,240 And a little over a decade later, 169 00:08:53,324 --> 00:08:55,544 shared that with the public. 170 00:08:56,703 --> 00:08:59,043 MICAH HANKS: John Callahan came away with the feeling 171 00:08:59,122 --> 00:09:01,212 that there was essentially a kind of coverup. 172 00:09:01,291 --> 00:09:02,921 The FAA didn’t want the fact 173 00:09:03,043 --> 00:09:05,093 that this incident had occurred to get out. 174 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:08,760 POPE: I’ve spoken to pilots who have seen 175 00:09:08,882 --> 00:09:11,092 amazing things out there, 176 00:09:11,176 --> 00:09:13,006 but never report it 177 00:09:13,094 --> 00:09:15,764 because of the fear of being disbelieved, 178 00:09:15,889 --> 00:09:17,429 being ridiculed, and 179 00:09:17,557 --> 00:09:20,887 perhaps, being grounded. 180 00:09:20,977 --> 00:09:24,107 You won’t be flying anymore. 181 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:26,940 So, what do they say? Most times, nothing. 182 00:09:28,443 --> 00:09:33,073 TSOUKALOS: You have countless commercial and private airline pilots 183 00:09:33,156 --> 00:09:37,446 who spend an exorbitant amount of time up in the sky. 184 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:40,997 And, in my opinion, I think they’re the best people 185 00:09:41,122 --> 00:09:43,962 to discern what is natural 186 00:09:44,084 --> 00:09:45,754 and what is not. 187 00:09:45,835 --> 00:09:48,625 NARRATOR: As far as ancient astronaut theorists 188 00:09:48,755 --> 00:09:50,135 are concerned, 189 00:09:50,256 --> 00:09:53,296 UFO encounters reported by civilian pilots 190 00:09:53,384 --> 00:09:57,264 provide some of the most compelling evidence 191 00:09:57,347 --> 00:09:59,017 that there is an extraterrestrial presence 192 00:09:59,140 --> 00:10:01,310 in the skies above Earth. 193 00:10:02,393 --> 00:10:04,443 And, according to some pilots, 194 00:10:04,521 --> 00:10:06,771 what they’ve witnessed presents 195 00:10:06,856 --> 00:10:08,856 a serious danger. 196 00:10:14,155 --> 00:10:16,065 NARRATOR: For ancient astronaut theorists, 197 00:10:16,157 --> 00:10:18,327 UFO sightings reported by pilots 198 00:10:18,409 --> 00:10:20,829 are particularly intriguing, 199 00:10:20,912 --> 00:10:25,582 because while accounts of strange phenomena in the sky 200 00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:27,417 date back millennia, 201 00:10:27,502 --> 00:10:29,672 it is only in the past century 202 00:10:29,796 --> 00:10:32,586 that humans have had an aerial vantage point. 203 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:35,593 DAVID CHILDRESS: For thousands of years, 204 00:10:35,677 --> 00:10:37,507 we could only observe things in the sky 205 00:10:37,637 --> 00:10:38,927 from the ground, 206 00:10:39,013 --> 00:10:40,893 but in the last hundred or so years, 207 00:10:41,015 --> 00:10:43,175 we’ve had the ability to fly. 208 00:10:43,268 --> 00:10:46,518 And so now we’re up in the sky ourselves. 209 00:10:46,604 --> 00:10:50,574 We can discern natural phenomena from powered craft. 210 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:55,113 NARRATOR: Thousands of pilots 211 00:10:55,196 --> 00:10:56,776 have reported observing 212 00:10:56,865 --> 00:11:00,705 phenomena in the sky that do not resemble any weather anomaly 213 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:03,907 or man-made aircraft they’ve ever encountered. 214 00:11:04,998 --> 00:11:07,828 Such was the case with Captain Erik Delgado, 215 00:11:07,917 --> 00:11:11,167 who served as an Air Force pilot for ten years 216 00:11:11,254 --> 00:11:15,264 before being hired to fly for FedEx in 2001. 217 00:11:15,383 --> 00:11:19,603 On the evening of March 20, 2020, 218 00:11:19,721 --> 00:11:23,101 Captain Delgado departed from Mexico City 219 00:11:23,224 --> 00:11:26,944 in a Boeing 767 bound for Memphis, Tennessee. 220 00:11:28,438 --> 00:11:32,318 One hour into the flight, Delgado noticed something 221 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,440 strange in the distance. 222 00:11:35,862 --> 00:11:38,202 DELGADO: Usually when we get to altitude, we’ll relax. 223 00:11:38,281 --> 00:11:39,571 I was conversing with my first officer, 224 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:40,659 and as I’m looking at him, 225 00:11:40,742 --> 00:11:43,162 his eyes got really big 226 00:11:43,244 --> 00:11:45,544 and, uh, his mouth kind of dropped. 227 00:11:45,622 --> 00:11:47,752 And I’m like, what the hell is this guy looking at? 228 00:11:47,874 --> 00:11:49,924 And he goes, "Look at the shooting star," 229 00:11:50,043 --> 00:11:53,133 and he stops, never-never finished the word, "Star." 230 00:11:53,254 --> 00:11:55,174 And so I kind of looked over my left shoulder, 231 00:11:55,256 --> 00:11:57,876 and if you can, uh, imagine a lighthouse in thin fog, 232 00:11:57,967 --> 00:11:59,637 kind of just a-a spotlight, sort of, 233 00:11:59,761 --> 00:12:01,851 that just kind of came over us, and I thought, 234 00:12:01,930 --> 00:12:03,430 "Oh, my God, it’s another airplane, 235 00:12:03,514 --> 00:12:04,894 "and he’s got a vector toward us. 236 00:12:04,974 --> 00:12:06,644 What’s this clown doing?" 237 00:12:06,768 --> 00:12:10,268 I grabbed the throttles, gripping it with a death grip. 238 00:12:10,355 --> 00:12:12,315 I was getting ready to disconnect the autopilot. 239 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,070 And I’m looking at the screen, 240 00:12:14,150 --> 00:12:16,440 realizing there’s nothing on the screen. 241 00:12:16,527 --> 00:12:20,197 NARRATOR: Delgado immediately used his digital camera 242 00:12:20,281 --> 00:12:23,241 to record the astonishing sight. 243 00:12:30,124 --> 00:12:32,384 NARRATOR: Within minutes of the sighting, 244 00:12:32,460 --> 00:12:34,170 the orb moved towards the plane 245 00:12:34,295 --> 00:12:36,005 at a high rate of speed, 246 00:12:36,130 --> 00:12:37,970 then suddenly stopped short. 247 00:12:38,049 --> 00:12:39,679 DELGADO: My heart was racing still. 248 00:12:39,801 --> 00:12:42,181 Speed doesn’t kill, you know? 249 00:12:42,303 --> 00:12:43,973 Deceleration, stopping, that’s what kills you. 250 00:12:44,097 --> 00:12:47,727 And the fact that this thing stopped like that, 251 00:12:47,809 --> 00:12:49,309 if there were somebody inside there, 252 00:12:49,435 --> 00:12:51,345 you know, um, 253 00:12:51,479 --> 00:12:53,769 our conventional laws of physics and stopping, 254 00:12:53,856 --> 00:12:55,226 they wouldn’t have survived the g-forces, 255 00:12:55,316 --> 00:12:56,856 to come to a stop like that. 256 00:13:00,321 --> 00:13:02,991 NARRATOR: The UAP flew alongside Delgado’s aircraft 257 00:13:03,074 --> 00:13:04,584 at an astonishing 258 00:13:04,659 --> 00:13:06,579 500 miles per hour, 259 00:13:06,661 --> 00:13:08,331 and yet there was no sign 260 00:13:08,454 --> 00:13:10,254 of a propulsion system. 261 00:13:11,666 --> 00:13:13,076 DELGADO: This thing was parked on our wingtip, 262 00:13:13,167 --> 00:13:14,537 about a thousand, 2,000 feet, 263 00:13:14,669 --> 00:13:15,629 and it didn’t move. 264 00:13:15,712 --> 00:13:17,002 With your naked eye, it was just 265 00:13:17,088 --> 00:13:18,128 bright, dim, bright, dim. 266 00:13:18,214 --> 00:13:19,264 And it was very cyclic. 267 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:20,800 It didn’t waver, it was the same. 268 00:13:20,883 --> 00:13:22,473 And you look through the camera, 269 00:13:22,552 --> 00:13:25,972 and now you could see features in a shape. 270 00:13:27,890 --> 00:13:29,640 NARRATOR: The object continued to track 271 00:13:29,726 --> 00:13:32,686 Delgado’s aircraft for nearly 30 miles. 272 00:13:35,356 --> 00:13:36,936 DELGADO: This thing started rotating, 273 00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:38,865 and started changing colors and it started taking off. 274 00:13:38,985 --> 00:13:40,905 And so, I’m zooming in as fast as I could. 275 00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:49,365 DELGADO: This thing took off with pretty good velocity. 276 00:13:50,371 --> 00:13:52,121 NARRATOR: After making a safe landing, 277 00:13:52,206 --> 00:13:54,456 Delgado shared his videos with 278 00:13:54,542 --> 00:13:57,462 air operations center personnel, 279 00:13:57,545 --> 00:13:59,255 even though his copilot was reluctant 280 00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:01,380 to file an official report. 281 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:03,970 DELGADO: There was still a stigma, behind the whole thing. 282 00:14:04,052 --> 00:14:05,762 You know, are they gonna ground us? 283 00:14:05,887 --> 00:14:07,717 Are they gonna ask for our medical, you know? 284 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:09,217 Are we gonna have to go see somebody? 285 00:14:09,307 --> 00:14:11,057 So, I could understand where he was coming from. 286 00:14:12,602 --> 00:14:14,812 HANKS: In recent years, we’ve seen military pilots 287 00:14:14,896 --> 00:14:16,306 being encouraged to come forward 288 00:14:16,397 --> 00:14:18,107 and talk about things they’ve seen. 289 00:14:18,232 --> 00:14:19,652 The same has not necessarily 290 00:14:19,734 --> 00:14:22,194 always extended to commercial pilots 291 00:14:22,278 --> 00:14:24,238 because there isn’t an interest 292 00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:26,874 in collecting information from those pilots 293 00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:29,329 the same as there would be with military pilots, 294 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:31,200 where in the interest of national security, 295 00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:33,287 if you see something, say something. 296 00:14:33,414 --> 00:14:35,334 But traditionally, 297 00:14:35,416 --> 00:14:37,956 when commercial pilots contacted the FAA, 298 00:14:38,086 --> 00:14:39,836 they have been told, "Hey, you need to talk 299 00:14:39,921 --> 00:14:41,261 to civilian UFO researchers," 300 00:14:41,381 --> 00:14:44,011 or they don’t actually have a clear idea 301 00:14:44,092 --> 00:14:45,932 of where else they can even log those reports. 302 00:14:46,010 --> 00:14:47,340 So it’s a very different situation. 303 00:14:48,554 --> 00:14:50,894 NARRATOR: Captain Delgado decided not to give the video 304 00:14:50,973 --> 00:14:54,273 to the FAA, and instead, turned it over to 305 00:14:54,394 --> 00:14:58,524 the National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena, 306 00:14:58,606 --> 00:15:00,066 or NARCAP, 307 00:15:00,149 --> 00:15:03,359 a civilian organization made up of volunteers 308 00:15:03,444 --> 00:15:07,414 who investigate unidentified aerial sightings. 309 00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:10,739 They concluded that the glowing object 310 00:15:10,827 --> 00:15:13,537 was consistent with that of an exotic craft 311 00:15:13,621 --> 00:15:18,041 with a plasma exterior that could disrupt radar signals. 312 00:15:19,168 --> 00:15:23,838 I think I saw some intelligent anomaly. 313 00:15:26,968 --> 00:15:29,718 It’s amazing, I-I’d like to know 314 00:15:29,804 --> 00:15:31,684 more of the science and the physics 315 00:15:31,806 --> 00:15:33,136 behind what I was looking at, maybe. 316 00:15:33,224 --> 00:15:35,064 But, you know, 317 00:15:35,143 --> 00:15:37,233 see the footage and-and form your own opinions. 318 00:15:38,896 --> 00:15:40,856 TSOUKALOS: Things need to change, 319 00:15:40,982 --> 00:15:44,572 because pilots should be at the forefront 320 00:15:44,652 --> 00:15:47,532 of being free enough 321 00:15:47,655 --> 00:15:52,025 to come forward to report what they saw. 322 00:15:53,536 --> 00:15:55,616 NARRATOR: The FAA has never conducted 323 00:15:55,705 --> 00:15:59,795 an official investigation into pilot Delgado’s incident. 324 00:15:59,876 --> 00:16:03,666 But would they take notice if a UFO sighting 325 00:16:03,754 --> 00:16:06,764 affected an entire airport? 326 00:16:17,852 --> 00:16:21,772 A ramp employee for United Airlines Flight 446 327 00:16:21,856 --> 00:16:24,646 spots a metallic saucer-shaped object 328 00:16:24,734 --> 00:16:27,534 hovering over gate C-17, 329 00:16:27,612 --> 00:16:31,742 between 1,000 and 1,900 feet in the air. 330 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:35,200 Within minutes, federal authorities 331 00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:37,868 receive nearly a dozen panicked phone calls 332 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:39,827 from airport personnel. 333 00:16:39,916 --> 00:16:42,916 SPRAGUE: Here you have pilots, here you have 334 00:16:43,044 --> 00:16:45,714 people working at the airport, 335 00:16:45,796 --> 00:16:48,336 and civilians going to get on their flights, 336 00:16:48,424 --> 00:16:50,384 all witness a UFO hovering 337 00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:53,430 directly over one of the gates at the airport. 338 00:16:53,554 --> 00:16:56,184 This UFO was cylindrical in shape. 339 00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:57,975 It was metallic. 340 00:16:59,227 --> 00:17:01,477 NARRATOR: Witnesses estimated the object 341 00:17:01,562 --> 00:17:05,942 to be between 16 and 24 feet in diameter. 342 00:17:06,067 --> 00:17:10,357 POPE: Suddenly, this thing just accelerates vertically, 343 00:17:10,446 --> 00:17:13,816 and punches a hole through the cloud. 344 00:17:13,908 --> 00:17:16,408 Everyone’s staggered by this. 345 00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:19,116 Now, there is a meteorological phenomenon 346 00:17:19,247 --> 00:17:21,747 called a "hole punch cloud." 347 00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:24,174 But that doesn’t really fit with the idea 348 00:17:24,252 --> 00:17:25,712 that there was this metallic craft 349 00:17:25,795 --> 00:17:28,095 hovering before this happened. 350 00:17:29,257 --> 00:17:31,677 STEVEN GREENSTREET: A hole punch cloud is a real phenomena, 351 00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:34,679 but the weather conditions needed 352 00:17:34,762 --> 00:17:37,012 to produce a hole punch cloud 353 00:17:37,098 --> 00:17:39,978 weren’t there that day. (chuckles) 354 00:17:40,101 --> 00:17:41,941 They weren’t there that day. 355 00:17:42,019 --> 00:17:44,229 And so that explanation doesn’t make any sense at all. 356 00:17:44,313 --> 00:17:48,233 WILLIAM HENRY: The Chicago Tribune, they end up filing 357 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:50,187 a Freedom of Information Act request 358 00:17:50,278 --> 00:17:53,068 with the FAA, and, lo and behold, they get a recording. 359 00:18:06,544 --> 00:18:09,004 So we have a United Airlines supervisor 360 00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:13,800 on the phone with the FAA controller using the word "UFO." 361 00:18:13,884 --> 00:18:15,264 So, once again, 362 00:18:15,344 --> 00:18:17,434 we have a scenario where the FAA, 363 00:18:17,513 --> 00:18:19,603 and we have United Airlines personnel, 364 00:18:19,682 --> 00:18:21,852 in this case, saying there’s nothing to see here, 365 00:18:21,976 --> 00:18:23,596 but, in fact, there was. 366 00:18:24,645 --> 00:18:26,725 NARRATOR: Is it possible the U.S. government 367 00:18:26,814 --> 00:18:28,904 has been concealing evidence 368 00:18:28,983 --> 00:18:32,073 about UAP sightings near our airports? 369 00:18:32,153 --> 00:18:34,823 According to UFO researchers, 370 00:18:34,947 --> 00:18:37,407 it would fit a disturbing pattern 371 00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:40,701 of ignoring what many believe are serious threats 372 00:18:40,828 --> 00:18:44,538 to the millions of people who travel the skies every day. 373 00:18:44,665 --> 00:18:48,165 Threats that are surprisingly well-documented 374 00:18:48,252 --> 00:18:52,212 and sometimes even caught on tape. 375 00:18:57,345 --> 00:18:59,975 NARRATOR: For decades, civilian pilots have been frustrated 376 00:19:00,056 --> 00:19:02,716 by the Federal Aviation Administration’s 377 00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:05,270 refusal to investigate encounters 378 00:19:05,353 --> 00:19:09,733 between commercial airlines and unidentified flying objects. 379 00:19:09,857 --> 00:19:13,817 Skeptics argue that these encounters lack hard data 380 00:19:13,903 --> 00:19:17,913 like telemetry, radar and audio recordings 381 00:19:18,032 --> 00:19:20,582 that would warrant an investigation. 382 00:19:21,702 --> 00:19:24,912 But there have, in fact, been numerous incidents 383 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:27,749 where viable evidence has been collected, 384 00:19:27,875 --> 00:19:30,495 including an event 385 00:19:30,586 --> 00:19:32,456 involving two aircraft travelling over 386 00:19:32,546 --> 00:19:34,966 the state of Arizona. 387 00:19:35,049 --> 00:19:37,179 In 2018, flying over Arizona, 388 00:19:37,259 --> 00:19:40,099 you’ve got a Learjet, you’ve got an American Airlines jet, 389 00:19:40,221 --> 00:19:43,851 and something zips over the Learjet, 390 00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:45,353 right over top. 391 00:19:45,434 --> 00:19:47,904 And they immediately call ATC. 392 00:19:53,442 --> 00:19:55,322 GREENSTREET: Radar tower says, "We don’t see anything. 393 00:19:55,403 --> 00:19:57,073 We don’t know what the heck it is." 394 00:19:57,196 --> 00:20:00,566 And so, the radar tower calls the American Airlines jet 395 00:20:00,658 --> 00:20:02,948 behind that plane, and says 396 00:20:03,077 --> 00:20:04,287 "Hey, look out for a second. 397 00:20:04,412 --> 00:20:05,912 Object should be coming your way." 398 00:20:14,255 --> 00:20:16,515 NARRATOR: The pilot of the American Airlines jet 399 00:20:16,590 --> 00:20:19,720 initially responds requesting clarification. 400 00:20:32,940 --> 00:20:35,400 NARRATOR: Then, just moments later, 401 00:20:35,484 --> 00:20:38,074 the American Airlines pilot radios back 402 00:20:38,154 --> 00:20:39,914 to air traffic control. 403 00:21:13,564 --> 00:21:15,324 This incident is significant 404 00:21:15,399 --> 00:21:16,939 because there are audio recordings 405 00:21:17,026 --> 00:21:18,486 of the whole incident, 406 00:21:18,569 --> 00:21:21,779 and the pilots actually 407 00:21:21,864 --> 00:21:23,824 use the word, "UFO," 408 00:21:23,908 --> 00:21:25,278 when they’re talking to the control tower. 409 00:21:28,204 --> 00:21:31,714 NARRATOR: According to researchers, the Arizona encounter 410 00:21:31,832 --> 00:21:34,292 was never openly investigated by the government, 411 00:21:34,376 --> 00:21:38,126 despite the evidence presented in the recordings 412 00:21:38,214 --> 00:21:41,224 between the two pilots and air traffic control. 413 00:21:41,342 --> 00:21:43,642 Neither was another incident, 414 00:21:43,719 --> 00:21:47,139 this one so serious, it required a call 415 00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:50,063 to the U.S. Air Force. 416 00:21:51,644 --> 00:21:53,194 The Oregon coast. 417 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:56,940 October 25, 2017. 418 00:21:57,024 --> 00:21:59,994 A radar operator spots a fast-moving 419 00:22:00,069 --> 00:22:04,409 unidentified object in a busy commercial flight path. 420 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:07,368 DELGADO: There were no pilots involved in that initial reporting. 421 00:22:07,493 --> 00:22:09,753 It was just a tower controller and a... 422 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:11,290 and a radar center operator, 423 00:22:11,372 --> 00:22:12,622 and they’re going back and forth. 424 00:22:13,874 --> 00:22:16,844 NARRATOR: The radar operator contacts air traffic control 425 00:22:16,919 --> 00:22:19,049 in Seattle, Washington. 426 00:22:35,229 --> 00:22:37,689 GREENSTREET: The object has no call sign. 427 00:22:37,773 --> 00:22:39,443 It has no transponder. 428 00:22:39,567 --> 00:22:42,527 It’s not communicating. What is this object? 429 00:22:42,611 --> 00:22:45,611 Pilots in the air start picking it up visually. 430 00:22:45,739 --> 00:22:48,079 Multiple pilots from multiple airlines 431 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,790 flying both north and south up the coast. 432 00:22:51,912 --> 00:22:54,502 And they see this huge white object 433 00:22:54,582 --> 00:22:58,962 moving extremely fast at 37,000 feet. 434 00:22:59,086 --> 00:23:02,126 CHILDRESS: The pilots could see a white light 435 00:23:02,256 --> 00:23:05,756 that was coming at them and moving around, 436 00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:10,395 and they reported it to the control tower 437 00:23:10,472 --> 00:23:12,522 and the pilot said that it was moving erratically. 438 00:23:20,274 --> 00:23:23,614 GREENSTREET: This object was a little bit too close for comfort. 439 00:23:23,694 --> 00:23:26,454 And so they tried to communicate with it. 440 00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:29,952 All the things that this object should have given off 441 00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:34,535 if it was an authorized aircraft, a U.S. aircraft, 442 00:23:34,622 --> 00:23:36,542 a commercial aircraft, weren’t there. 443 00:23:36,624 --> 00:23:38,754 It was just silent. 444 00:23:38,834 --> 00:23:43,304 And so the military scrambled two F-15 fighters 445 00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:45,970 to go intercept this thing. 446 00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:50,305 POPE: Now, you don’t do that lightly. This is a big call. 447 00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:51,639 This is the sort of thing 448 00:23:51,722 --> 00:23:54,182 that you do on a 9/11 type event. 449 00:23:54,308 --> 00:23:56,438 So, what happened? 450 00:23:56,518 --> 00:23:58,648 Why did they take this one so seriously 451 00:23:58,729 --> 00:24:01,019 that a fighter interceptor 452 00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:03,278 was sent up to try and take a look? 453 00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:06,573 NARRATOR: The F-15s race to intercept the UFO, 454 00:24:06,654 --> 00:24:10,074 but this proves more difficult than expected. 455 00:24:10,157 --> 00:24:13,487 CHILDRESS: Once the jets were on their way, 456 00:24:13,577 --> 00:24:17,457 this UFO suddenly shot off in a different direction, 457 00:24:17,539 --> 00:24:20,209 and was very fast, and was able to make 458 00:24:20,334 --> 00:24:23,844 these quick turns, and at very high speeds. 459 00:24:25,339 --> 00:24:28,339 GREENSTREET: At one point, this object changes direction. 460 00:24:28,425 --> 00:24:29,885 It’s flying southbound, 461 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:33,050 and then turns and goes northbound. 462 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:35,140 So, the F-15 fighters, 463 00:24:35,224 --> 00:24:37,644 they go there and at the last minute, 464 00:24:37,726 --> 00:24:39,306 as best anyone can guess, 465 00:24:39,395 --> 00:24:42,235 turns and zips out over the Pacific Ocean. 466 00:24:43,357 --> 00:24:44,647 NARRATOR: Observers are shocked 467 00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:48,203 that F-15s, among the nation’s fastest 468 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,910 and most sophisticated fighter jets, are unable 469 00:24:51,031 --> 00:24:54,031 to catch up with the mysterious object. 470 00:25:09,925 --> 00:25:13,505 GREENSTREET: What’s great about this is the audiotapes, 471 00:25:13,595 --> 00:25:16,255 which were released via the Freedom of Information Act. 472 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:18,770 When you hear the process happen, 473 00:25:18,892 --> 00:25:21,062 from initial sighting 474 00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:22,565 to the scrambling 475 00:25:22,646 --> 00:25:23,936 of military jets, 476 00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:26,324 it’s fascinating to hear that happen. 477 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,860 "What should we do?" 478 00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:30,493 It goes to the Air Force, it goes to NORAD. 479 00:25:30,571 --> 00:25:34,911 It’s there and seen by so many, and then it’s gone. 480 00:25:37,077 --> 00:25:39,747 NARRATOR: These two incidents are considered 481 00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:42,922 to be among a multitude of reports where analyzable 482 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,170 data, including radar, radio transmissions, 483 00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:49,343 telemetry and eyewitness accounts, 484 00:25:49,423 --> 00:25:51,093 offer compelling evidence 485 00:25:51,175 --> 00:25:53,555 of unidentified aerial phenomena. 486 00:25:53,635 --> 00:25:56,095 Yet, to the public’s knowledge, 487 00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:58,140 these dangerous encounters 488 00:25:58,265 --> 00:26:01,265 have never been investigated by the government. 489 00:26:02,269 --> 00:26:04,939 UFO experts believe the flying public 490 00:26:05,022 --> 00:26:06,772 is at significant risk, 491 00:26:06,899 --> 00:26:10,439 and as evidence, point to a mysterious case 492 00:26:10,527 --> 00:26:13,527 where a pilot experienced his worst nightmare 493 00:26:13,614 --> 00:26:15,784 10,000 feet in the air. 494 00:26:21,955 --> 00:26:23,995 NARRATOR: Zihuatanejo, Mexico. 495 00:26:24,124 --> 00:26:27,544 May 3, 1975. 496 00:26:29,505 --> 00:26:32,515 After dropping off passengers at this seaport town 497 00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:35,343 on the Pacific Coast, pilot Carlos de los Santos 498 00:26:35,469 --> 00:26:38,559 embarks on a return trip to Mexico City 499 00:26:38,639 --> 00:26:41,849 in his Piper PA-24 Comanche. 500 00:26:41,975 --> 00:26:44,435 The weather conditions are clear, 501 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,270 and visibility is good, as De los Santos 502 00:26:47,356 --> 00:26:49,606 cruises at 10,000 feet. 503 00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:52,111 One hour into the flight, 504 00:26:52,194 --> 00:26:54,364 he witnesses something unusual. 505 00:26:55,906 --> 00:27:00,536 A gray, wingless object off the left side of his plane. 506 00:27:01,495 --> 00:27:03,545 DOLAN: As he approaches Mexico City, 507 00:27:03,664 --> 00:27:06,924 he notices, basically, a small flying saucer 508 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,080 just above his left wing. 509 00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:09,958 It’s not as large as his aircraft, 510 00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:12,705 and he’s flying a fairly small aircraft. 511 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,590 And he’s like, "What is this?" 512 00:27:14,675 --> 00:27:17,475 And then he looks over to his right and he sees another one. 513 00:27:18,554 --> 00:27:20,104 And then he looks ahead of them, 514 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:22,270 and there’s one coming at him. 515 00:27:22,349 --> 00:27:23,769 It goes below his aircraft, 516 00:27:23,851 --> 00:27:27,191 and he feels a bump under his aircraft. 517 00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:30,858 And he’s scared out of his mind. 518 00:27:30,983 --> 00:27:32,403 Anyone would be. 519 00:27:34,194 --> 00:27:36,914 But he then realizes that he’s not really 520 00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:38,780 in control of his aircraft. 521 00:27:39,867 --> 00:27:42,157 His aircraft is moving in a way 522 00:27:42,244 --> 00:27:44,834 that seems to respond to these objects, not to him. 523 00:27:47,416 --> 00:27:48,576 He goes to move the yoke, 524 00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:50,879 and the yoke is moving on itself. 525 00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:53,133 The plane starts climbing 526 00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:54,803 to 3,000 meters. 527 00:27:54,882 --> 00:27:57,552 That’s the ceiling of the Piper. 528 00:27:57,676 --> 00:28:01,176 If it climbs any further, it will stall out. 529 00:28:01,263 --> 00:28:02,933 He will lose control. 530 00:28:03,056 --> 00:28:04,806 The plane will fall out of the sky. 531 00:28:06,393 --> 00:28:07,643 DOLAN: He’s actually becoming afraid 532 00:28:07,728 --> 00:28:09,728 because his cabin’s not pressurized. 533 00:28:11,231 --> 00:28:12,521 You get to a certain altitude, 534 00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:13,858 he’s gonna have a hard time breathing. 535 00:28:14,902 --> 00:28:17,402 BIRNES: The theory is that the UFO 536 00:28:17,487 --> 00:28:19,357 that came under the plane, 537 00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:22,738 took control of his plane, 538 00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:25,828 and the UFO’s own magnetic envelope 539 00:28:25,913 --> 00:28:29,833 is lifting the plane higher and higher and higher. 540 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:34,547 De los Santos is in a panic. He’s giving Mayday calls. 541 00:28:54,441 --> 00:28:57,071 DOLAN: He’s telling them, "There are these 542 00:28:57,152 --> 00:28:59,452 "unidentified objects at my wingtips, 543 00:28:59,529 --> 00:29:02,409 and below me, and I don’t know what to do." 544 00:29:02,491 --> 00:29:07,621 NARRATOR: As the private plane races towards a mountainous area, 545 00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:10,746 the three UAPs disengage from Carlos’s plane 546 00:29:10,832 --> 00:29:13,842 and veer off toward the Mount Popocatépetl volcano 547 00:29:13,961 --> 00:29:16,341 at lightning speed. 548 00:29:16,463 --> 00:29:19,513 As the objects disappear from sight, 549 00:29:19,633 --> 00:29:22,433 Carlos regains control of the plane. 550 00:29:22,511 --> 00:29:26,011 But he quickly realizes his ordeal isn’t over. 551 00:29:27,015 --> 00:29:29,385 DOLAN: He can’t initiate his landing gear 552 00:29:29,476 --> 00:29:31,516 because of the impact that one of these objects 553 00:29:31,645 --> 00:29:33,485 made on his aircraft. 554 00:29:34,481 --> 00:29:36,231 He has to circle around 555 00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:38,566 the airport about ten times. 556 00:29:38,652 --> 00:29:40,652 And he uses a screwdriver 557 00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:43,279 to push the lever to get his, uh, 558 00:29:43,365 --> 00:29:44,745 landing gear to come down, 559 00:29:44,825 --> 00:29:47,045 and he successfully lands his aircraft. 560 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,000 It’s kind of an amazing thing there. 561 00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:50,869 So, he lands his aircraft. 562 00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:54,214 And the story doesn’t end here. 563 00:29:54,334 --> 00:29:55,964 Now he would’ve had his whole career, 564 00:29:56,044 --> 00:29:57,924 reputation ruined, probably, with this, 565 00:29:58,005 --> 00:30:01,265 except for the fact that 566 00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:03,891 Mexican air traffic control tracked these objects also, 567 00:30:04,011 --> 00:30:06,641 and this came out to support him. 568 00:30:06,722 --> 00:30:09,972 This story became a huge news story in Mexico. 569 00:30:10,058 --> 00:30:12,598 Didn’t really make much impact in the United States, 570 00:30:12,686 --> 00:30:15,096 but it was a very big story in Mexico. 571 00:30:16,189 --> 00:30:17,689 NARRATOR: Years later, De los Santos 572 00:30:17,774 --> 00:30:20,444 revealed that in the aftermath of the event, 573 00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:23,527 he was twice approached by mysterious figures 574 00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:26,615 warning him not to speak about his experience. 575 00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:30,621 The first occasion was just before 576 00:30:30,704 --> 00:30:32,124 he was scheduled to be interviewed 577 00:30:32,205 --> 00:30:34,915 by a Mexican television station. 578 00:30:35,042 --> 00:30:39,052 The second happened when De los Santos was set to meet 579 00:30:39,129 --> 00:30:43,679 with the famous UFO investigator, J. Allen Hynek. 580 00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:45,009 Hynek was into the case. 581 00:30:45,093 --> 00:30:46,933 A lot of people were following this case. 582 00:30:47,054 --> 00:30:50,184 And just before he was going to meet with Hynek at some hotel, 583 00:30:50,265 --> 00:30:52,385 he gets another encounter from, um, 584 00:30:52,517 --> 00:30:53,937 one of these men in black, 585 00:30:54,061 --> 00:30:56,351 these tall, pasty, white-skinned guys 586 00:30:56,438 --> 00:30:59,268 who warned him, don’t talk about this. 587 00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:00,939 He was threatened. 588 00:31:01,068 --> 00:31:03,278 And he did actually stop talking about this 589 00:31:03,403 --> 00:31:04,863 for a little while after that. 590 00:31:04,946 --> 00:31:07,656 But as time went by, he-he’s talked about it. 591 00:31:07,741 --> 00:31:10,831 It’s just one of the most incredible 592 00:31:10,911 --> 00:31:13,451 aviation UAP stories that you’re ever gonna hear, 593 00:31:13,580 --> 00:31:15,370 and he got out of it alive. 594 00:31:16,416 --> 00:31:18,126 NARRATOR: Pilot Carlos de los Santos 595 00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:20,461 ultimately emerged from his harrowing 596 00:31:20,587 --> 00:31:23,087 midair encounter unscathed, 597 00:31:23,215 --> 00:31:26,135 but similar confrontations 598 00:31:26,259 --> 00:31:27,719 between civilian planes and UFOs 599 00:31:27,803 --> 00:31:30,183 have led to tragic consequences, 600 00:31:30,263 --> 00:31:33,733 including injuries, crashes 601 00:31:33,809 --> 00:31:36,599 and even loss of life. 602 00:31:40,857 --> 00:31:43,147 NARRATOR: The National UFO Reporting Center, 603 00:31:43,276 --> 00:31:45,446 or NUFORC, has counted 604 00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:47,659 at least 100 cases in the U.S. 605 00:31:47,781 --> 00:31:50,331 where flight safety was impaired 606 00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:54,290 because of close calls with unidentified aerial phenomena. 607 00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:56,543 And in at least one incident, 608 00:31:56,623 --> 00:31:59,293 it appears a collision with a UFO 609 00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:02,126 caused fatal results. 610 00:32:10,053 --> 00:32:14,223 Former NYPD pilot and flight instructor Thomas Preziose 611 00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:17,347 departs from Mobile Downtown Airport, 612 00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:20,477 piloting a single-engine Cessna 613 00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:24,145 with the call sign "Night Ship 282." 614 00:32:25,235 --> 00:32:29,825 The story of Night Ship 282 is quite alarming. 615 00:32:29,906 --> 00:32:32,656 A Hollywood script writer couldn’t come up with this one. 616 00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:38,329 We have a NYPD pilot, a freight hauler, 617 00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:40,497 very experienced flight instructor... 618 00:32:42,002 --> 00:32:44,672 ...hauling documents from Mobile, Alabama 619 00:32:44,796 --> 00:32:46,546 up north to Montgomery. 620 00:32:46,673 --> 00:32:48,423 Routine flight. 621 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:51,139 NARRATOR: Due to poor visibility, 622 00:32:51,219 --> 00:32:53,849 Preziose was flying by his instruments. 623 00:32:55,015 --> 00:32:56,525 Just one minute into the flight, 624 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,440 he spotted something in the distance, 625 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,979 and immediately radioed air traffic control. 626 00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:06,899 MIKE RICKSECKER: He saw what looked like another plane in the sky, 627 00:33:07,027 --> 00:33:08,357 was just confirming that 628 00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:10,737 that was another plane up there. 629 00:33:10,864 --> 00:33:12,574 And then all of a sudden, he’s alarmed. 630 00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:14,699 He’s panicked. Something is coming at him. 631 00:33:16,161 --> 00:33:19,411 BIRNES: This pilot sees an object in front of him 632 00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:23,039 on a collision course with his plane. 633 00:33:24,085 --> 00:33:25,545 What does he do? 634 00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:29,550 He radios a request for permission to deviate. 635 00:33:29,633 --> 00:33:31,883 "I must deviate, I must deviate," 636 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:33,930 he says over the radio. 637 00:33:34,054 --> 00:33:35,474 He deviates. 638 00:33:37,224 --> 00:33:38,394 Silence. 639 00:33:38,475 --> 00:33:41,105 The transmission goes dead. 640 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:45,194 NARRATOR: Five minutes after takeoff, 641 00:33:45,273 --> 00:33:49,743 Night Ship 282 crashes into Big Bateau Bay. 642 00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:54,661 Tragically, Thomas Preziose is killed on impact. 643 00:33:55,659 --> 00:33:57,409 When investigators 644 00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:59,906 from The National Transportation Safety Board, 645 00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:03,168 or NTSB, arrive at the scene, 646 00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:05,670 they discover parts of the Cessna 647 00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:09,262 scattered over an area of nearly 200 yards. 648 00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:13,089 The plane is not just demolished, 649 00:34:13,176 --> 00:34:16,596 it’s almost vaporized. 650 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,270 Something obviously hit the plane. 651 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:22,099 The props are damaged, the wings are damaged, 652 00:34:22,185 --> 00:34:25,095 the fuselage is damaged. 653 00:34:25,188 --> 00:34:29,108 Wholesale damage inside the mechanics of the airplane. 654 00:34:30,235 --> 00:34:33,205 HENRY: It becomes apparent he has collided 655 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,620 with something in midair. 656 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,039 NARRATOR: A midair collision of such extreme force 657 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,960 would naturally send two wrecks spiraling to the ground. 658 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,630 But an extensive search of the area 659 00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:49,051 produced only one aircraft. 660 00:34:50,547 --> 00:34:52,627 DOLAN: No other wreckage was ever found. 661 00:34:52,757 --> 00:34:55,177 No other craft which would’ve 662 00:34:55,302 --> 00:34:57,642 presumably done this. 663 00:34:57,721 --> 00:35:00,471 The most bizarre thing about this is that there are these 664 00:35:00,557 --> 00:35:02,347 strange red markings 665 00:35:02,475 --> 00:35:04,725 all over parts of the aircraft. 666 00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:07,685 These red markings have not 667 00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:09,824 been identified, as far as I can tell. 668 00:35:09,941 --> 00:35:13,861 And they’re in a variety of places of the aircraft. 669 00:35:13,987 --> 00:35:16,197 The NTSB suggested that whatever it hit 670 00:35:16,323 --> 00:35:19,533 was this color red or had this red coating on it, 671 00:35:19,659 --> 00:35:22,829 and when it hit, it rubbed off on this guy’s craft. 672 00:35:22,912 --> 00:35:27,002 They also found pieces of metal in the wings 673 00:35:27,083 --> 00:35:29,543 that didn’t belong to the plane. 674 00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:33,839 Various pieces of metal were imbedded in the crashed plane 675 00:35:33,923 --> 00:35:36,683 that weren’t part of that plane. 676 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,350 So, something metal, something red. 677 00:35:39,429 --> 00:35:41,889 But at the end of the day, a mystery. 678 00:35:43,099 --> 00:35:45,349 GARY HESELTINE: Clearly, this is one of the rare occasions 679 00:35:45,435 --> 00:35:48,065 where there was a collision that obliterated a plane, 680 00:35:48,188 --> 00:35:51,188 killed the pilot, and the FAA, 681 00:35:51,316 --> 00:35:54,736 the aviation authorities and the investigations that followed 682 00:35:54,861 --> 00:35:56,861 could not explain it, 683 00:35:56,946 --> 00:35:59,026 and to this day, cannot explain it. 684 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,370 CHILDRESS: You have to wonder if this incident, 685 00:36:02,452 --> 00:36:04,542 which caused the death of the pilot, 686 00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:08,673 wasn’t also some extraterrestrial incident 687 00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:12,340 where, perhaps, a flying saucer or other craft 688 00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:13,710 hit this plane, 689 00:36:13,797 --> 00:36:15,877 or the plane itself hit the craft. 690 00:36:16,007 --> 00:36:18,217 NARRATOR: For UFO researchers, 691 00:36:18,301 --> 00:36:21,051 the tragic case of Thomas Preziose 692 00:36:21,137 --> 00:36:22,887 raises the question: 693 00:36:22,972 --> 00:36:26,272 Is it possible that there have been other fatal collisions 694 00:36:26,393 --> 00:36:29,853 with UFOs that have gone unreported? 695 00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:34,782 Or happened before the pilot could radio air traffic control? 696 00:36:34,901 --> 00:36:39,241 As far as ancient astronaut theorists are concerned, 697 00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:41,912 it is a question worth investigating 698 00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:45,203 given the number of highly unusual encounters 699 00:36:45,286 --> 00:36:48,156 pilots have started sharing with the public. 700 00:36:48,248 --> 00:36:50,248 And while the FAA 701 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:52,673 continues to dismiss such reports, 702 00:36:52,752 --> 00:36:55,092 another government agency, 703 00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:57,673 one focused on outer space, 704 00:36:57,757 --> 00:37:01,757 is taking notice of possible extraterrestrial activity 705 00:37:01,845 --> 00:37:04,105 on Earth. 706 00:37:08,852 --> 00:37:10,392 NARRATOR: In recent years, more and more pilots 707 00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:11,598 are coming forward 708 00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:14,820 to say that unidentified aerial phenomena 709 00:37:14,941 --> 00:37:18,191 pose a serious risk to the flying public. 710 00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:21,318 The Federal Aviation Administration, however, 711 00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:24,948 continues to downplay the danger. 712 00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:26,794 DOLAN: The FAA is 713 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:28,620 all about flight safety, 714 00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:31,247 and yet, they don’t accept UFO or UAP reports from civilians. 715 00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:34,092 The FAA is essentially telling you, civilian, 716 00:37:34,169 --> 00:37:35,629 "I don’t care what you’ve encountered, 717 00:37:35,712 --> 00:37:37,802 "and we don’t have to keep statistics on it, 718 00:37:37,881 --> 00:37:39,471 "and we, therefore, 719 00:37:39,591 --> 00:37:42,801 "don’t have to do anything about this impossible phenomenon, 720 00:37:42,886 --> 00:37:44,506 which we don’t know what we could do." 721 00:37:44,637 --> 00:37:47,717 The FAA does not want civilians reporting UFOs 722 00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:51,477 because they don’t want the public stirring the pot. 723 00:37:51,561 --> 00:37:54,361 This is something that could, in theory, 724 00:37:54,481 --> 00:37:57,481 become actionable through FOIA requests, for example. 725 00:37:57,567 --> 00:37:59,487 You can have a civilian saying, "I’d like to know 726 00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:02,489 how many civilians are reporting UFOs to the FAA." 727 00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:03,784 And then what do they do? 728 00:38:03,865 --> 00:38:06,165 How many thousands of reports 729 00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:07,704 are they going to be releasing? 730 00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:09,327 They don’t want to get into that at all. 731 00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:12,002 HENRY: I think it goes to this idea, 732 00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:13,503 not of air traffic safety, 733 00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:15,883 but not wanting to alarm the public. 734 00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:18,711 NARRATOR: But now that the U.S. government 735 00:38:18,838 --> 00:38:20,668 is paying serious attention 736 00:38:20,757 --> 00:38:24,007 to UAP encounters reported by military pilots, 737 00:38:24,093 --> 00:38:26,973 at least one agency is ready to listen 738 00:38:27,055 --> 00:38:29,225 to civilian pilots as well, 739 00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:31,679 and to the surprise of many, 740 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:35,190 it is America’s top space agency: 741 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:37,403 NASA. 742 00:38:39,108 --> 00:38:41,188 In October 2022, 743 00:38:41,277 --> 00:38:43,487 NASA assembled a team 744 00:38:43,571 --> 00:38:46,031 of 16 scientists and experts 745 00:38:46,157 --> 00:38:47,867 for a first-of-its-kind investigation 746 00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:50,662 into unidentified aerial phenomena. 747 00:38:50,745 --> 00:38:53,035 In order to collect new data, 748 00:38:53,122 --> 00:38:55,672 the space agency also announced 749 00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:57,380 it is taking over management 750 00:38:57,460 --> 00:39:00,050 of the Aviation Safety Reporting System, 751 00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:01,801 or ASRS, 752 00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:05,221 a public service website that encourages pilots 753 00:39:05,301 --> 00:39:07,551 to submit anonymous reports 754 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,009 regarding UAP sightings. 755 00:39:10,974 --> 00:39:13,144 NASA has something now called 756 00:39:13,226 --> 00:39:16,146 the Aviation Safety Reporting System. 757 00:39:16,229 --> 00:39:18,899 And this is a mechanism 758 00:39:18,982 --> 00:39:21,822 whereby pilots can report 759 00:39:21,901 --> 00:39:25,611 UFO sightings anonymously, if they choose. 760 00:39:25,738 --> 00:39:29,198 And it says on the website, this is non-punitive. 761 00:39:29,284 --> 00:39:30,794 "We will not come after you for this. 762 00:39:30,910 --> 00:39:33,660 There’s no comeback, just make your report." 763 00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:38,081 HENRY: It suggests to me that there’s something else out there. 764 00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:39,589 NASA knows about it, 765 00:39:39,669 --> 00:39:41,419 and they want to know more about it. 766 00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:43,764 And so they are, sort of, surreptitiously saying, 767 00:39:43,882 --> 00:39:47,432 "We’ll listen to your story now. 768 00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:48,760 "We’re collecting a database now 769 00:39:48,845 --> 00:39:50,765 of what is happening in our skies," 770 00:39:50,889 --> 00:39:53,769 and so that is why I think NASA 771 00:39:53,892 --> 00:39:56,232 is ultimately taking the lead on this. 772 00:39:56,311 --> 00:39:59,901 POPE: People are saying, why NASA? 773 00:39:59,981 --> 00:40:02,611 Why not the FAA? Does it perhaps tie in 774 00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:05,782 with the fact that NASA is now studying UFOs? 775 00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:10,162 Or is it maybe an indication, an intriguing clue 776 00:40:10,283 --> 00:40:14,083 that a lot of the incidents of most import 777 00:40:14,162 --> 00:40:17,962 happen in the real upper atmosphere, 778 00:40:18,041 --> 00:40:20,461 where we are going into space. I-I don’t know, 779 00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:22,463 but that’s... in a sense, that’s not the point. 780 00:40:22,587 --> 00:40:26,627 The point is we now have this receptive environment 781 00:40:26,716 --> 00:40:29,926 into which pilots can finally 782 00:40:30,011 --> 00:40:32,561 speak out about the UFOs 783 00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:37,019 that they are seeing on a very frequent basis. 784 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,439 NARRATOR: As far as ancient astronaut theorists are concerned, 785 00:40:41,522 --> 00:40:44,782 encouraging commercial pilots to come forward 786 00:40:44,859 --> 00:40:48,279 with their stories may finally provide critical proof 787 00:40:48,363 --> 00:40:50,783 that civilian aircraft do, in fact, 788 00:40:50,865 --> 00:40:53,825 encounter UAPs in our skies. 789 00:40:54,994 --> 00:40:58,004 HANKS: There’s a deep history of UFO sightings. 790 00:40:58,081 --> 00:41:00,001 And the obvious threat to aviation 791 00:41:00,083 --> 00:41:02,503 is becoming more and more prevalent. 792 00:41:04,587 --> 00:41:06,797 We have to start taking these reports 793 00:41:06,881 --> 00:41:08,511 incredibly seriously because 794 00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:12,183 pilots, crews and passengers could be at risk. 795 00:41:13,388 --> 00:41:15,178 DELGADO: I challenge anybody to take anything you have 796 00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:17,676 and put it out there. Don’t hesitate, 797 00:41:17,809 --> 00:41:19,229 because maybe you’re gonna open the door 798 00:41:19,352 --> 00:41:22,982 to-to bigger and better things for mankind. 799 00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:26,735 NARRATOR: As more civilian pilots come forward 800 00:41:26,859 --> 00:41:30,359 to report their encounters with unidentified aerial phenomena, 801 00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:33,526 will it be revealed that such incidents 802 00:41:33,658 --> 00:41:36,908 occur far more often than we would ever imagine? 803 00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:39,656 And if so, could bringing 804 00:41:39,747 --> 00:41:42,877 these incidents to light also bring us one step closer 805 00:41:43,001 --> 00:41:45,791 to learning the truth about just 806 00:41:45,878 --> 00:41:47,208 who, or what, 807 00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:49,586 has been occupying our airspace 808 00:41:49,716 --> 00:41:51,546 for thousands of years? 809 00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:55,391 Perhaps one day soon, 810 00:41:55,471 --> 00:41:57,561 the strange craft in our skies 811 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,890 will descend to Earth, 812 00:41:59,976 --> 00:42:03,396 and when they do, we will know for certain 813 00:42:03,479 --> 00:42:05,689 that we are not alone. 814 00:42:05,773 --> 00:42:08,073 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS