1 00:00:01,243 --> 00:00:04,403 This programme contains depictions of violence. 2 00:00:04,443 --> 00:00:08,883 Please be aware that this programme also contains themes of suicide. 3 00:00:25,483 --> 00:00:27,723 LEE: When I was on the run, 4 00:00:27,763 --> 00:00:32,723 Dena was psyching me up by saying the mafia 5 00:00:32,763 --> 00:00:35,643 only want to kill us if you're alive. 6 00:00:36,683 --> 00:00:41,003 She was saying... if you committed suicide or pretend suicide, 7 00:00:41,043 --> 00:00:42,923 can we take photos? 8 00:00:45,283 --> 00:00:48,963 DIRECTOR: You would fake committing suicide, 9 00:00:49,003 --> 00:00:52,483 and then no-one would be after you anymore? 10 00:00:52,523 --> 00:00:55,683 There'll be a new identity for me to pick up, 11 00:00:55,723 --> 00:00:58,123 because Lee Wyatt has killed himself. 12 00:00:59,563 --> 00:01:02,843 There's a special hangman's noose, 13 00:01:02,883 --> 00:01:05,083 you put it over your shoulders and arms, 14 00:01:06,203 --> 00:01:09,723 aand you've got to be a very good actor to sort of make the disguise. 15 00:01:14,883 --> 00:01:17,203 Did you ever feel like she was suggesting 16 00:01:17,243 --> 00:01:20,003 you should actually commit suicide? Yeah, 17 00:01:20,043 --> 00:01:21,123 yeah, 18 00:01:22,403 --> 00:01:25,323 yeah, on quite a few occasions. 19 00:01:25,363 --> 00:01:28,123 I was her biggest problem, 20 00:01:28,163 --> 00:01:32,643 because I'm still alive, and I can fill in all the gaps. 21 00:01:35,802 --> 00:01:36,963 (CLICK) 22 00:01:37,003 --> 00:01:38,923 (THEME MUSIC) 23 00:01:44,643 --> 00:01:47,403 # I put a spell on you 24 00:01:51,323 --> 00:01:55,883 # Because you're mine 25 00:01:57,203 --> 00:02:00,603 # You better stop the things you do 26 00:02:03,283 --> 00:02:05,683 # I say, watch out 27 00:02:05,723 --> 00:02:09,003 # I ain't lying 28 00:02:13,083 --> 00:02:15,843 # Because you're mine 29 00:02:22,963 --> 00:02:28,763 # Because you're mine # 30 00:02:40,122 --> 00:02:41,723 I remember, 31 00:02:41,763 --> 00:02:44,243 I was sitting in my office 32 00:02:44,283 --> 00:02:48,723 and someone called Sean McDonald, who was a DC I'd never met, 33 00:02:48,763 --> 00:02:51,323 walked in, and he said, 34 00:02:51,363 --> 00:02:53,843 I've done some profiling of you, 35 00:02:53,883 --> 00:02:56,003 and you've worked on a lot of murders. 36 00:02:56,043 --> 00:02:57,563 And I said, I have. 37 00:02:57,603 --> 00:03:00,323 He said, I think you're pretty good at murder. 38 00:03:00,363 --> 00:03:02,203 I said, well, thank you. (CHUCKLES) 39 00:03:02,243 --> 00:03:06,643 And he started talking about someone called Julian Webb. 40 00:03:08,163 --> 00:03:11,523 A few years earlier, Julian had unexpectedly died. 41 00:03:13,523 --> 00:03:17,243 His wife Dena straight away said that he committed suicide, 42 00:03:17,283 --> 00:03:20,683 but everybody took the view that this was a suspicious death. 43 00:03:22,603 --> 00:03:26,563 Sean and a lot of the officers felt that there was far more to this, 44 00:03:26,603 --> 00:03:31,003 and Sean gave me the files in the hope that I could further that view. 45 00:03:33,243 --> 00:03:36,243 Dena told the paramedics that Julian had died 46 00:03:36,283 --> 00:03:39,122 literally 15 minutes before the ambulance arrived, 47 00:03:39,163 --> 00:03:41,203 and, yet, when they went to move the body, 48 00:03:41,243 --> 00:03:43,283 the body had rigor mortis. 49 00:03:43,323 --> 00:03:44,843 And that rang alarm bells 50 00:03:44,883 --> 00:03:48,523 because rigour mortis takes far longer than 15 minutes to set in. 51 00:03:49,803 --> 00:03:53,122 He had died long before she told us he had died. 52 00:03:56,443 --> 00:03:58,403 And then we got the A+E Doctor, 53 00:03:58,443 --> 00:04:01,883 who had thought Dena was faking her grief. 54 00:04:02,883 --> 00:04:04,723 Really, really unusual. 55 00:04:05,643 --> 00:04:08,843 Finally, I have never in my life heard of anybody 56 00:04:08,883 --> 00:04:13,363 claiming for a partner's money the day after an unexpected death. 57 00:04:14,483 --> 00:04:17,683 It was quite obvious there was more to this case than met the eye. 58 00:04:19,122 --> 00:04:22,563 And now Dena's first husband, Lee Wyatt, had reappeared. 59 00:04:24,763 --> 00:04:27,163 Lee had been missing for about four years 60 00:04:27,203 --> 00:04:30,843 and he was accused of seriously assaulting Dena 61 00:04:30,883 --> 00:04:33,803 and his disappearance appeared to be linked to that. 62 00:04:34,683 --> 00:04:38,803 He was arrested for benefit fraud using an alias of Colin Mitchell. 63 00:04:40,003 --> 00:04:43,043 There were quite a few things to talk to him about 64 00:04:43,083 --> 00:04:46,843 and we were hoping that some light on what happened to Julian 65 00:04:46,883 --> 00:04:48,803 would be shed in the interview. 66 00:05:03,123 --> 00:05:08,203 LEE: I'd been living alone for four years on the run. 67 00:05:10,723 --> 00:05:12,803 Dena was living with Julian. 68 00:05:13,723 --> 00:05:15,283 And there I was 69 00:05:15,323 --> 00:05:18,803 moving from place to place, sometimes living rough, 70 00:05:18,843 --> 00:05:20,883 really rough. 71 00:05:20,923 --> 00:05:23,363 I was desperate and broken. 72 00:05:24,643 --> 00:05:28,483 I didn't tell anyone about the mafia 73 00:05:28,523 --> 00:05:30,523 because they'd think I'm mad. (CHUCKLES) 74 00:05:30,563 --> 00:05:33,803 So that's the sort of thing you have to keep quiet. 75 00:05:33,843 --> 00:05:35,683 Tell no-one. Nothing. 76 00:05:37,643 --> 00:05:43,163 And for all those years I hadn't seen my son, Darren, 77 00:05:43,202 --> 00:05:45,963 because Dena told me it wasn't safe. 78 00:05:48,403 --> 00:05:53,723 I'd lost all perspective on truth and what was lies. 79 00:05:56,603 --> 00:05:59,243 I got the impression she's trying to make me mad. 80 00:06:00,563 --> 00:06:03,963 I was probably bordering on that nonsanity thing 81 00:06:04,003 --> 00:06:06,203 simply because what I've gone through. 82 00:06:09,243 --> 00:06:12,003 I made these dozens of little notes. 83 00:06:13,083 --> 00:06:16,523 I would write things like, "Is Dena lying to me?" 84 00:06:20,923 --> 00:06:22,603 And then another one saying, 85 00:06:22,643 --> 00:06:25,843 "Has all this story about Disney been a lie?" 86 00:06:28,483 --> 00:06:29,843 Every time I spoke to her, 87 00:06:29,883 --> 00:06:33,883 I would say, "How long is this going to keep on going on for?" 88 00:06:33,923 --> 00:06:35,843 "What's happening?" 89 00:06:35,883 --> 00:06:37,123 I want answers. 90 00:06:38,483 --> 00:06:42,843 And that's when she said "Julian is dead." 91 00:06:44,363 --> 00:06:47,803 And I said, "Well, how is that? Why is that?" 92 00:06:49,323 --> 00:06:51,323 And then she put the phone down on me. 93 00:06:52,923 --> 00:06:55,443 So obviously I was asking too many questions. 94 00:06:56,683 --> 00:06:58,723 I took a deep breath, 95 00:06:58,763 --> 00:07:03,283 and I thought, so I'm not going to be a protection squad 96 00:07:03,323 --> 00:07:06,043 taking over the identity of Julian Webb. 97 00:07:08,683 --> 00:07:12,123 I tried to ring her again after that, but she wasn't picking up. 98 00:07:13,683 --> 00:07:16,683 Did you think, for even a moment, 99 00:07:16,723 --> 00:07:18,923 that she might have killed him? No. 100 00:07:20,283 --> 00:07:22,643 No, I didn't. I didn't think it was in her. 101 00:07:24,363 --> 00:07:28,003 A week later, she contacted me. 102 00:07:28,043 --> 00:07:31,083 And that's when she strung up the thing about the States. 103 00:07:31,123 --> 00:07:34,283 You've got to get yourself over there with a passport. 104 00:07:34,323 --> 00:07:36,243 And she said you'll see Darren; 105 00:07:38,043 --> 00:07:39,603 you'll see him in the hotel. 106 00:07:41,043 --> 00:07:45,123 She said we were going to be starting a new life together 107 00:07:45,163 --> 00:07:46,723 as a family unit. 108 00:07:48,923 --> 00:07:51,202 I said, "At last!" 109 00:07:52,323 --> 00:07:56,603 But she said it wasn't safe to travel together, 110 00:07:56,643 --> 00:07:58,683 so she said, I'll meet you over there. 111 00:08:00,043 --> 00:08:02,403 That's when the brain started ticking over, 112 00:08:02,443 --> 00:08:05,443 thinking there's something not quite right here. 113 00:08:06,923 --> 00:08:08,563 But I need to try and make a life, 114 00:08:08,603 --> 00:08:10,523 and I need to try and get my son back. 115 00:08:11,603 --> 00:08:13,203 So, I went anyway. 116 00:08:27,083 --> 00:08:28,963 She came into the hotel room 117 00:08:31,083 --> 00:08:34,643 I'm thinking now we can have an embrace together. 118 00:08:37,842 --> 00:08:42,643 And straight away she would come out with, "Do you have any money?" 119 00:08:42,683 --> 00:08:44,363 And I said, I've got no money. 120 00:08:45,563 --> 00:08:47,923 She wasn't happy with that at all. 121 00:08:47,963 --> 00:08:50,443 And I thought, this isn't right. 122 00:08:51,483 --> 00:08:54,563 She said, "I'll go back, and I'll get Darren now." 123 00:08:55,923 --> 00:08:58,123 And I thought, what the hell is going on? 124 00:09:00,683 --> 00:09:03,723 I need to follow her when she leaves 125 00:09:03,763 --> 00:09:06,203 and see if she's telling the truth. 126 00:09:06,243 --> 00:09:10,323 I ducked out the rear entrance, climbed over a fence 127 00:09:12,923 --> 00:09:15,163 and I saw her heading towards a young man. 128 00:09:16,923 --> 00:09:18,203 They kissed. 129 00:09:19,683 --> 00:09:24,083 And then that's when it suddenly hit me like a ton of bricks. 130 00:09:25,163 --> 00:09:27,683 She's carrying on like I never existed. 131 00:09:29,123 --> 00:09:30,483 I felt sick. 132 00:09:31,763 --> 00:09:35,323 I realised the whole thing was a sham. 133 00:09:38,283 --> 00:09:44,283 All these years, Lee, you've been manipulated and used 134 00:09:46,923 --> 00:09:48,963 and everything has been a lie. 135 00:10:04,923 --> 00:10:08,363 I was thinking, I need to see the parents, 136 00:10:09,603 --> 00:10:11,883 I need to ask them questions. 137 00:10:11,923 --> 00:10:16,803 I've got no money, so I signed on at The Job Centre. 138 00:10:16,843 --> 00:10:19,483 And signed on as..? As Colin Mitchell. 139 00:10:20,363 --> 00:10:26,083 And then I had a letter, saying, "Can you come into the office? 140 00:10:26,123 --> 00:10:29,843 We believe there's something not quite right." 141 00:10:29,883 --> 00:10:31,963 And I said, right. Game is up. 142 00:10:33,523 --> 00:10:36,923 SEAN: He had been sleeping rough, sleeping in bus shelters. 143 00:10:36,963 --> 00:10:39,443 He looked a bit dishevelled, shall we say. 144 00:10:39,483 --> 00:10:42,963 But, you know, he's not got tattoos on his face or anything like that. 145 00:10:43,003 --> 00:10:45,363 He was just a very ordinary sort of looking bloke. 146 00:10:47,483 --> 00:10:50,603 MARTYN: We'd suddenly got Lee Wyatt. I couldn't believe it. 147 00:10:52,843 --> 00:10:55,963 We knew that Lee and Dena were still married legally 148 00:10:56,003 --> 00:10:57,763 when Dena married Julian. 149 00:10:59,123 --> 00:11:02,203 And we knew Lee was at the house in Yapton 150 00:11:02,243 --> 00:11:04,043 about the time when Julian died. 151 00:11:05,563 --> 00:11:08,243 Dena accused Lee of stealing money, 152 00:11:08,283 --> 00:11:12,043 of breaking into her house, of assault, 153 00:11:12,083 --> 00:11:16,883 and we had this awful allegation of sexual assault against him. 154 00:11:16,923 --> 00:11:19,043 These are serious allegations; 155 00:11:19,083 --> 00:11:22,123 he would easily be facing five years or more in prison. 156 00:11:25,323 --> 00:11:29,083 LEE: As soon as the door shut, I was frightened. 157 00:11:30,763 --> 00:11:32,083 I was shaking. 158 00:11:33,683 --> 00:11:36,163 I thought, well, what story do I tell? 159 00:11:39,363 --> 00:11:41,163 I did what I did 160 00:11:41,203 --> 00:11:47,003 because I thought I needed to save the lives of my son and Dena. 161 00:11:47,043 --> 00:11:50,363 But whether or not they would believe me, I don't know. 162 00:11:53,323 --> 00:11:55,763 MARTYN: And I said, we're going to go through this 163 00:11:55,803 --> 00:11:57,483 from start to finish. 164 00:11:58,643 --> 00:12:01,443 So, let's start at the beginning and take me through it. 165 00:12:06,603 --> 00:12:07,603 Yeah. 166 00:12:10,483 --> 00:12:12,003 '86. 167 00:12:12,043 --> 00:12:14,363 That was probably the very start of it all. 168 00:12:24,083 --> 00:12:26,803 We'd had the first years together, 169 00:12:26,843 --> 00:12:30,643 which were quite wonderful, as in we were going places. 170 00:12:39,203 --> 00:12:41,683 And then Dena was pregnant. 171 00:12:44,323 --> 00:12:47,563 She said this isn't right, this is uncomfortable. 172 00:12:49,683 --> 00:12:53,763 And the medical staff declared that the baby was dead. 173 00:12:58,203 --> 00:13:00,923 DIRECTOR: How many weeks pregnant was she?Oh... 174 00:13:01,883 --> 00:13:04,003 About 36 weeks. 175 00:13:04,043 --> 00:13:06,203 So, it was like, you know, full term. 176 00:13:10,523 --> 00:13:14,243 Dena had to go through the motions of birth. 177 00:13:16,003 --> 00:13:19,883 Such was the exhaustion of doing it, 178 00:13:19,923 --> 00:13:21,403 Dena's heart stopped. 179 00:13:25,603 --> 00:13:28,283 I heard what we call the death "throttle." 180 00:13:28,323 --> 00:13:30,363 (RASPING BREATH) 181 00:13:32,563 --> 00:13:34,483 The sister then ran out 182 00:13:36,203 --> 00:13:38,883 to get the machine to give her a shock, 183 00:13:42,323 --> 00:13:46,243 and I was shouting, "Don't do this to me, we've got a life together." 184 00:13:47,923 --> 00:13:49,803 Whacked her in the heart 185 00:13:54,763 --> 00:13:58,603 and then there was a big, deep breath that came from her. 186 00:14:01,923 --> 00:14:04,923 The sister rushed in and said, 187 00:14:04,963 --> 00:14:06,883 "She's alive, she's alright". 188 00:14:13,843 --> 00:14:15,363 The baby came out, 189 00:14:17,963 --> 00:14:21,043 and I remember saying, 190 00:14:21,083 --> 00:14:25,643 "Here's our child, our baby, let's just say goodbye to it". 191 00:14:29,483 --> 00:14:33,083 The name was Louise Amanda Wyatt, 192 00:14:33,123 --> 00:14:38,363 and that would be... my initials. (VOICE BREAKS) 193 00:14:38,403 --> 00:14:42,283 So, it was a part of me dying with her. 194 00:14:42,323 --> 00:14:43,323 Yeah. 195 00:14:46,603 --> 00:14:49,163 I wanted to pick up the baby 196 00:14:49,203 --> 00:14:50,843 and she wouldn't allow it. 197 00:14:52,243 --> 00:14:54,443 (DENA SCREAMS) 198 00:14:57,003 --> 00:15:01,163 She was just saying, "Don't look at it, don't touch it." 199 00:15:05,123 --> 00:15:09,123 I never once touched the baby and nor did she. 200 00:15:10,563 --> 00:15:14,163 And I didn't touch Louise 201 00:15:14,203 --> 00:15:16,723 because I didn't want to upset Dena. 202 00:15:20,403 --> 00:15:22,123 Did something change that day? 203 00:15:25,043 --> 00:15:26,043 Yeah. 204 00:15:31,723 --> 00:15:34,963 That, to me, was a moment where Dena died. 205 00:15:37,483 --> 00:15:40,443 And I honestly to God think Dena came back 206 00:15:40,483 --> 00:15:42,763 as truly another person. 207 00:15:52,763 --> 00:15:55,763 Everyone gave Dena the sympathies. 208 00:15:55,803 --> 00:15:57,283 And quite rightly so. 209 00:15:57,323 --> 00:15:59,883 But she just carried on as normal. 210 00:15:59,923 --> 00:16:02,483 As if nothing had happened. 211 00:16:04,803 --> 00:16:09,363 And within weeks she insisted she had to get pregnant again. 212 00:16:10,963 --> 00:16:13,403 So we did that. 213 00:16:13,443 --> 00:16:16,163 And Darren was obviously on his way. 214 00:16:23,323 --> 00:16:25,923 Darren was 6.7 lbs when he was born 215 00:16:28,043 --> 00:16:32,563 but it took five days for him before he could come out 216 00:16:32,603 --> 00:16:34,683 because he became a blue baby. 217 00:16:37,163 --> 00:16:42,563 So he got put into an oxygen box tank, and I'm thinking, 218 00:16:42,603 --> 00:16:45,163 "I can't believe this is happening again". 219 00:16:47,403 --> 00:16:49,243 From that point onwards, 220 00:16:49,283 --> 00:16:53,323 I became fearful that I was going to lose him, too. 221 00:16:54,963 --> 00:16:58,483 GARETH: I think what Lee went through made him feel vulnerable. 222 00:16:59,523 --> 00:17:04,763 Do you think that Darren was used as a way of controlling Lee. 223 00:17:04,803 --> 00:17:05,963 Oh, yeah. 224 00:17:06,003 --> 00:17:09,003 In that sort of situation, 225 00:17:09,043 --> 00:17:10,323 it's currency. 226 00:17:11,243 --> 00:17:15,803 How soon after Darren was born did Dena tell you about the mafia? 227 00:17:17,483 --> 00:17:18,923 Uh... 228 00:17:21,923 --> 00:17:23,843 It's got to be within weeks... 229 00:17:25,443 --> 00:17:27,283 He was a little baby. 230 00:17:29,363 --> 00:17:33,643 I believed that the Irish Mafia wanted to kill all of us. 231 00:17:33,683 --> 00:17:35,963 This was hitmen 232 00:17:36,003 --> 00:17:41,483 and Dena had said there was a price on my head of £100,000. 233 00:17:42,603 --> 00:17:46,683 They wanted all the money from the cuddly toy business - 234 00:17:46,723 --> 00:17:48,963 from the rights to Shaun the Leprechaun. 235 00:17:49,923 --> 00:17:53,043 But you must've said to her, "What do you mean, the Mafia?" 236 00:17:53,083 --> 00:17:55,323 Like, what was your reaction? 237 00:17:55,363 --> 00:17:56,803 Yeah... 238 00:17:58,963 --> 00:18:03,203 Well, I had heard of stories like the Irish Mafia before. 239 00:18:04,363 --> 00:18:08,763 When I heard the Irish Mafia, I just assumed the IRA. 240 00:18:12,483 --> 00:18:18,203 At the time, there was a war of the IRA against people on the mainland, 241 00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:22,923 and the day we got married 242 00:18:22,963 --> 00:18:26,563 The Grand Hotel in Brighton got bombed. 243 00:18:30,843 --> 00:18:33,403 And I just thought this is a dangerous organisation. 244 00:18:36,003 --> 00:18:37,403 I was frightened. 245 00:18:40,243 --> 00:18:43,003 It's quite hard to imagine there were numerous people 246 00:18:43,043 --> 00:18:45,963 out there trying to kill 247 00:18:46,003 --> 00:18:48,843 your newborn baby, your wife, yourself. 248 00:18:48,883 --> 00:18:50,083 Yep. 249 00:18:51,003 --> 00:18:53,523 You're always looking at someone as... 250 00:18:53,563 --> 00:18:55,883 well, are they the enemy or are they a good person? 251 00:18:58,523 --> 00:19:03,243 It sounds crazy but every time we came out of the house, 252 00:19:03,283 --> 00:19:06,763 I would go through the standard security check, 253 00:19:08,003 --> 00:19:11,163 looking under the cars for bombs. 254 00:19:16,443 --> 00:19:20,243 I kept track of the number plates in the back of the rear-view mirror. 255 00:19:23,683 --> 00:19:26,963 I would write it down on a little notepad. 256 00:19:27,003 --> 00:19:30,643 See if I had the same number plate following me. 257 00:19:32,683 --> 00:19:35,163 Every time we went out. 258 00:19:36,483 --> 00:19:40,003 I did fear for our lives, every hour of every day. 259 00:19:43,763 --> 00:19:47,603 It's such a crazy story. It's extremely hard to believe. 260 00:19:47,643 --> 00:19:51,003 But you validate a lot of what he said happened. 261 00:19:51,043 --> 00:19:56,803 Yep. How do you manage to isolate somebody that effectively 262 00:19:56,843 --> 00:19:58,523 and where does the drive come from 263 00:19:58,563 --> 00:20:00,443 to want to do that to another human being? 264 00:20:01,923 --> 00:20:06,083 But, by that point, he is completely controlled by Dena. 265 00:20:06,963 --> 00:20:08,643 And we had no idea. 266 00:20:09,603 --> 00:20:13,683 Dena struck me as being a very well-balanced, 267 00:20:13,723 --> 00:20:16,763 perfectly normal human being. 268 00:20:18,363 --> 00:20:21,683 Dena was contacting my Auntie Jean with phone calls, 269 00:20:21,723 --> 00:20:25,283 very, very odd visits, without Lee. 270 00:20:27,363 --> 00:20:31,243 And there was the constant blaming of Lee being the one 271 00:20:31,283 --> 00:20:35,883 that didn't want anything to do with his mother or the family. 272 00:20:35,923 --> 00:20:39,643 And she was the innocent one doing her best to communicate. 273 00:20:41,603 --> 00:20:44,243 When you're only given one side of the information... 274 00:20:44,283 --> 00:20:45,483 what do you believe? 275 00:20:46,923 --> 00:20:49,363 There was no reason to not believe her at all. 276 00:20:52,123 --> 00:20:56,403 Dena had said that my mother and family 277 00:20:56,443 --> 00:20:59,883 had been infiltrated by the Mafia. 278 00:20:59,923 --> 00:21:03,763 And that's why contact ceased from me. 279 00:21:04,643 --> 00:21:06,203 And I believed her. 280 00:21:08,363 --> 00:21:13,643 Within two years, I'd lost my grandfather, my father, 281 00:21:13,683 --> 00:21:17,123 and then I had the stillborn of Louise. 282 00:21:17,163 --> 00:21:21,323 And together with her bringing up the stories of all the mafia, 283 00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:23,723 that was just juggling about in my brain. 284 00:21:25,963 --> 00:21:28,203 Perhaps I was having a mental breakdown. 285 00:21:28,243 --> 00:21:31,803 Not just that particular minute that week, 286 00:21:31,843 --> 00:21:34,043 but just gradually building up. 287 00:21:35,923 --> 00:21:41,003 Lee, I saw as being a strong, well-adjusted person. 288 00:21:42,083 --> 00:21:45,563 Successful. Knew his own mind. Knew what he wanted out of life, 289 00:21:45,603 --> 00:21:48,723 and he absolutely got torn apart 290 00:21:48,763 --> 00:21:50,403 by somebody's manipulation. 291 00:22:00,883 --> 00:22:04,123 I absolutely couldn't believe the story I was hearing. 292 00:22:05,683 --> 00:22:07,683 You think this can't have happened. 293 00:22:09,603 --> 00:22:12,043 SEAN: You have to unravel all the stories that are there. 294 00:22:12,083 --> 00:22:15,403 And they're so intertwined and so difficult to unravel. 295 00:22:17,483 --> 00:22:21,083 LEE: I thought, well, are they against me or are they with me? 296 00:22:22,523 --> 00:22:25,803 I had a lot to tell them, 297 00:22:25,843 --> 00:22:27,363 I'm the victim of her lies. 298 00:22:41,763 --> 00:22:45,763 GARETH: Nobody had any contact with Lee whatsoever. 299 00:22:45,803 --> 00:22:48,043 He was just a ghost. 300 00:22:48,083 --> 00:22:49,763 Just a ghost. 301 00:22:51,923 --> 00:22:53,483 Lee was an only child, 302 00:22:53,523 --> 00:22:57,083 and he was very, very dear to his parents. 303 00:22:57,123 --> 00:22:59,003 You know, I was angry at the time. 304 00:22:59,043 --> 00:23:01,323 And, in my naivety, I just thought, 305 00:23:01,363 --> 00:23:03,123 I want to go and find Lee and have a go, 306 00:23:03,163 --> 00:23:06,323 and I'm going to find out why he's not talking to his mother. 307 00:23:08,523 --> 00:23:12,003 I drove down a very long lane to get to their house. 308 00:23:20,363 --> 00:23:23,283 And nobody was more surprised than Dena when she opened that door 309 00:23:23,323 --> 00:23:24,523 and I was stood there. 310 00:23:30,763 --> 00:23:33,683 And she told me Lee was away and he wouldn't be back. 311 00:23:35,283 --> 00:23:37,003 So, I might as well go. 312 00:23:37,043 --> 00:23:38,323 DIRECTOR: Away where? 313 00:23:38,363 --> 00:23:40,203 Didn't elaborate on that at all. 314 00:23:42,723 --> 00:23:45,403 LEE: Dena told me just hide. 315 00:23:46,803 --> 00:23:49,443 I was just huddled up in the corner. 316 00:23:49,483 --> 00:23:52,843 So that I wouldn't be acknowledging myself to him. 317 00:23:56,563 --> 00:23:59,643 Why did you accept what Dena said that Lee wasn't there? 318 00:23:59,683 --> 00:24:03,083 Did you not feel like you wanted to have a look around inside? 319 00:24:03,123 --> 00:24:04,323 That's... 320 00:24:04,363 --> 00:24:06,683 I should have done. 321 00:24:09,003 --> 00:24:13,443 But, at that point, we had no reason to disbelieve that wasn't the case. 322 00:24:15,683 --> 00:24:19,043 You know, we weren't privy to what was effectively 323 00:24:19,083 --> 00:24:22,523 the psychological warfare that was going on, aimed at Lee. 324 00:24:25,243 --> 00:24:27,363 Lee was part of a journey for Dena. 325 00:24:28,363 --> 00:24:30,563 I think she was learning how to control people 326 00:24:30,603 --> 00:24:32,803 to the extent that she controlled Lee. 327 00:24:32,843 --> 00:24:36,883 And then what she did post that, became the murderess. 328 00:24:47,683 --> 00:24:51,403 MANDY: By then, Dena didn't really talk about Lee. 329 00:24:51,443 --> 00:24:53,603 I guess I didn't really ask. 330 00:24:54,723 --> 00:24:57,883 I knew that Lee had assaulted her, 331 00:24:57,923 --> 00:25:01,163 but I didn't know anything else. 332 00:25:01,203 --> 00:25:03,483 Lee was definitely out of the picture. 333 00:25:03,523 --> 00:25:07,043 And all of a sudden, she's talking about someone called Julian. 334 00:25:07,963 --> 00:25:11,243 Suddenly she was Julian's partner. 335 00:25:11,283 --> 00:25:15,363 This one day I remember being in the front room, 336 00:25:15,403 --> 00:25:16,963 I look out the window, it's Dena 337 00:25:17,003 --> 00:25:20,523 and this person walking down. 338 00:25:20,563 --> 00:25:22,683 "Hello! This is Julian." 339 00:25:22,723 --> 00:25:25,643 "Oh, hi. Hello, pleased to meet you." 340 00:25:25,683 --> 00:25:29,123 It kind of... didn't make sense. 341 00:25:29,163 --> 00:25:31,843 But it wasn't like, "Oh, I'm having an affair." 342 00:25:31,883 --> 00:25:34,643 Which, you know, that's what it would be classed as, in theory. 343 00:25:35,883 --> 00:25:38,603 And then it was like, suddenly they were married. 344 00:25:40,003 --> 00:25:43,843 I've never seen two people that would be so different. 345 00:25:45,083 --> 00:25:47,683 But it was very much, 346 00:25:47,723 --> 00:25:49,843 to me, that she was in charge. 347 00:25:52,763 --> 00:25:55,763 LEE: Her father said, Dena's just married. 348 00:25:56,803 --> 00:26:01,723 Some chap, and I said, "What do you mean married? What marriage? 349 00:26:01,763 --> 00:26:05,123 She can't marry. I'm married." There's no divorce. 350 00:26:06,123 --> 00:26:08,563 She told her parents 351 00:26:08,603 --> 00:26:12,083 that we were in the proceeds of divorcing one another. 352 00:26:12,123 --> 00:26:14,003 But it wasn't true. 353 00:26:14,043 --> 00:26:16,403 She married him bigamously. 354 00:26:16,443 --> 00:26:19,763 She actually put on the marriage certificate "spinster." 355 00:26:21,363 --> 00:26:25,603 At the time, I thought it was just part of this plan to protect us. 356 00:26:26,923 --> 00:26:30,203 A week before Dena married Julian, 357 00:26:30,243 --> 00:26:34,123 she said to me you have to be on the run without us. 358 00:26:35,643 --> 00:26:40,323 And she told me I couldn't stay as Lee Wyatt. 359 00:26:40,363 --> 00:26:42,723 I had to have another identity. 360 00:26:44,003 --> 00:26:46,723 It felt like I was an undercover operative. 361 00:26:47,723 --> 00:26:50,043 So, I'd read a couple of books. 362 00:26:51,163 --> 00:26:54,043 There was The Day of the Jackal. I think it was. 363 00:26:55,563 --> 00:26:58,523 This guy was going through the French countryside, 364 00:26:59,883 --> 00:27:03,603 killing all manner of people, taking cars and money. 365 00:27:06,243 --> 00:27:08,683 So, I pulled out a map of the UK, 366 00:27:08,723 --> 00:27:10,283 and I quite literally 367 00:27:10,323 --> 00:27:14,723 hovered my arm and a finger and a pencil around this. 368 00:27:14,763 --> 00:27:18,563 I spun myself in a circle to make myself giddy. 369 00:27:18,603 --> 00:27:22,083 And the first bit I hit was Newquay. 370 00:27:22,123 --> 00:27:24,483 It wasn't quite on Newquay. 371 00:27:24,523 --> 00:27:26,243 It was near Newquay. 372 00:27:44,043 --> 00:27:47,123 DAVE: In those days the amusements arcades were in their heyday. 373 00:27:51,043 --> 00:27:53,923 So it would be, pushers, and things like that. 374 00:27:54,963 --> 00:27:57,203 And then the cranes, which was the grabbers. 375 00:27:58,403 --> 00:28:02,683 You pick it up and win every time. 376 00:28:02,723 --> 00:28:04,363 No. (LAUGHS) 377 00:28:06,523 --> 00:28:09,163 What we used to do is take the weight of the toy, 378 00:28:09,203 --> 00:28:11,643 hold it in there and just ease it off 379 00:28:11,683 --> 00:28:14,683 so basically the grab would do that. 380 00:28:18,763 --> 00:28:22,803 One day a person walked through the front door, long hair and a beard. 381 00:28:22,843 --> 00:28:25,443 Asked if there's any employment available. 382 00:28:25,483 --> 00:28:27,843 And I offered him a job fixing machines. 383 00:28:29,763 --> 00:28:32,323 I asked him his name, he said he was Colin. 384 00:28:34,043 --> 00:28:35,243 Colin Mitchell. 385 00:28:36,523 --> 00:28:39,083 Hi, I'm Colin Mitchell. 386 00:28:39,123 --> 00:28:41,003 So, who was Colin Mitchell? 387 00:28:41,043 --> 00:28:44,763 Well, he's someone that worked in the hotel trade 388 00:28:44,803 --> 00:28:47,523 and I probably used to see him every day. 389 00:28:47,563 --> 00:28:50,083 So, you knew him? So, I knew him. Yeah. 390 00:28:50,123 --> 00:28:52,763 And you stole his name? And I used his name. 391 00:28:52,803 --> 00:28:56,883 I managed to get a passport in the name of Colin John Mitchell. 392 00:28:57,843 --> 00:28:59,243 How did you do that? 393 00:28:59,283 --> 00:29:03,163 Uh, I just applied for it. (CHUCKLES) 394 00:29:05,963 --> 00:29:10,563 It's funny because there was a film on, called The Fugitive. 395 00:29:10,603 --> 00:29:12,683 And I saw that at the cinema, 396 00:29:12,723 --> 00:29:15,043 and I thought, "Oh, God, is that me?" 397 00:29:15,083 --> 00:29:18,203 I'm not going to be jumping off of rivers and helicopters 398 00:29:18,243 --> 00:29:20,803 and stuff like that, but that's how I felt. 399 00:29:22,523 --> 00:29:24,843 DAVE: I'd say, "Colin, can you do this?" 400 00:29:24,883 --> 00:29:27,683 And basically, he wouldn't answer to Colin. 401 00:29:27,723 --> 00:29:30,203 Now I know why, yes. 402 00:29:30,243 --> 00:29:32,043 Cos he wasn't called Colin! (CHUCKLES) 403 00:29:35,803 --> 00:29:37,483 I was waiting. 404 00:29:37,523 --> 00:29:40,003 Waiting for the threat of the Mafia to be gone. 405 00:29:42,923 --> 00:29:45,403 Leaving your son behind, 406 00:29:45,443 --> 00:29:48,603 obviously that was quite horrific. 407 00:29:49,723 --> 00:29:53,883 So, my trust was in Julian and his mates, the protection squad, 408 00:29:53,923 --> 00:29:56,083 to look after them two. 409 00:29:56,123 --> 00:29:59,563 And Dena always said, "Yeah, they're doing their jobs. 410 00:29:59,603 --> 00:30:01,163 They're looking after us." 411 00:30:01,203 --> 00:30:05,843 They're arresting the hitmen, according to her. 412 00:30:07,163 --> 00:30:11,923 Well, it turns out, Julian became a stepfather sort of thing, 413 00:30:11,963 --> 00:30:14,003 a substitute dad. 414 00:30:14,043 --> 00:30:16,523 He probably behaved quite well to him. 415 00:30:18,003 --> 00:30:21,123 But I'm not to know that cos no-one ever told me anything. 416 00:30:29,803 --> 00:30:33,603 MARTYN: Lee hasn't seen his son for years because of Dena. 417 00:30:34,683 --> 00:30:38,683 For a parent to leave their child, this is a very extreme action. 418 00:30:38,723 --> 00:30:41,763 This is not normal behaviour. 419 00:30:41,803 --> 00:30:43,403 I realised what we were looking at 420 00:30:43,443 --> 00:30:46,483 was a really controlling relationship. 421 00:30:46,523 --> 00:30:48,923 Coercion starts with very small control 422 00:30:48,963 --> 00:30:51,403 like, "I'll answer the phone," 423 00:30:51,443 --> 00:30:54,163 "I'll open the door." 424 00:30:54,203 --> 00:30:58,403 A month later, it's, "I'll access our joint bank account." 425 00:31:00,283 --> 00:31:02,403 And the scary nature of coercion 426 00:31:02,443 --> 00:31:05,883 is that often the person being controlled doesn't realise it. 427 00:31:08,163 --> 00:31:12,083 But it was a complex story, and we had this awful allegation 428 00:31:12,123 --> 00:31:16,083 of sexual assault against Lee that we had to put to him. 429 00:31:16,123 --> 00:31:17,123 (BUTTON CLICKS) 430 00:31:23,523 --> 00:31:26,203 LEE (ON RECORDING): Roses are red, violence is black, 431 00:31:26,243 --> 00:31:28,243 you need arse shafting as a pay back. 432 00:31:32,923 --> 00:31:34,883 LEE: It's not good. 433 00:31:34,923 --> 00:31:36,843 My hands were shaking. 434 00:31:36,883 --> 00:31:38,603 My feet were shaking. 435 00:31:40,363 --> 00:31:43,363 And I admit to them that I did make that call. 436 00:31:44,683 --> 00:31:47,003 She said you have to make a phone call 437 00:31:47,043 --> 00:31:49,083 where you're slagging me off. 438 00:31:51,283 --> 00:31:54,563 Then I question and she said, "Don't give up on Darren." 439 00:31:54,603 --> 00:31:56,403 I said, "I'm not giving up on Darren." 440 00:31:56,443 --> 00:31:59,003 "But you are. You're asking all these questions." 441 00:31:59,043 --> 00:32:01,323 And this is this twist that she does. 442 00:32:04,523 --> 00:32:08,883 Then I read the sexual assault statement, 443 00:32:08,923 --> 00:32:10,483 which she signed. 444 00:32:11,683 --> 00:32:14,683 She set me up with a crime I haven't committed. 445 00:32:15,923 --> 00:32:18,043 I knew this was serious. 446 00:32:19,403 --> 00:32:21,563 And that's when it all came to me. 447 00:32:23,963 --> 00:32:27,723 I ask, "What date did she say this happened?" 448 00:32:28,643 --> 00:32:30,683 And he gave me the date. 449 00:32:30,723 --> 00:32:32,083 I said, "It's impossible. 450 00:32:32,123 --> 00:32:36,203 I was in Cornwall, working, on that day." 451 00:32:39,403 --> 00:32:44,123 And the detectives looked at each other and they left the room. 452 00:32:47,123 --> 00:32:49,443 Did you attack or abuse Dena? 453 00:32:50,723 --> 00:32:55,643 Not then, no other times, whatever. 454 00:32:55,683 --> 00:32:58,803 So that wasn't me. That was her mental state. 455 00:33:01,643 --> 00:33:03,403 She's just on another level. 456 00:33:07,963 --> 00:33:09,763 SEAN: I called his old boss. 457 00:33:09,803 --> 00:33:12,003 And Lee's alibi checked out. 458 00:33:13,643 --> 00:33:16,843 He was 200 miles away when the incidents 459 00:33:16,883 --> 00:33:19,003 that she's saying were happening in Yapton, 460 00:33:19,043 --> 00:33:20,843 when he was working in Cornwall. 461 00:33:25,403 --> 00:33:30,083 Worryingly, she got Lee Wyatt to incriminate himself 462 00:33:30,123 --> 00:33:32,763 in numerous offences that he hadn't committed 463 00:33:35,403 --> 00:33:37,723 purely because she coerced him into doing it. 464 00:33:40,403 --> 00:33:44,083 I loved her that much that I would have done anything for her. 465 00:33:47,443 --> 00:33:49,603 Love does make you do crazy things. 466 00:34:05,763 --> 00:34:08,323 SEAN: His had all been fabricated by Dena. 467 00:34:09,923 --> 00:34:12,123 He was never charged with any offences. 468 00:34:14,202 --> 00:34:16,003 Full credit and marks to them. 469 00:34:17,883 --> 00:34:20,603 Because they believed in an innocent man. 470 00:34:20,643 --> 00:34:21,843 (SIGHS) 471 00:34:23,323 --> 00:34:26,803 MARTYN: I'd never heard of a case as extreme as Lee Wyatt. 472 00:34:26,843 --> 00:34:29,762 It was mind-numbing what she did to him. 473 00:34:31,682 --> 00:34:35,762 By the end of the interview, I don't think any of us thought 474 00:34:35,803 --> 00:34:38,923 he was in any way connected with the death of Julian Webb. 475 00:34:42,923 --> 00:34:45,803 The way Dena set up Lee Wyatt, 476 00:34:45,843 --> 00:34:47,242 took a lot of intelligence. 477 00:34:47,282 --> 00:34:50,483 took a lot of thought. A lot of planning. 478 00:34:50,523 --> 00:34:52,163 Premeditation. 479 00:34:55,123 --> 00:34:58,483 But we couldn't charge Dena with anything 480 00:34:58,523 --> 00:35:01,643 because, at that time, coercive control wasn't a crime. 481 00:35:03,723 --> 00:35:06,123 She got away with it 482 00:35:06,163 --> 00:35:08,563 and the damage caused was horrendous. 483 00:35:23,843 --> 00:35:26,123 LEE: Of course, I tried to get custody. 484 00:35:27,043 --> 00:35:32,323 But the family court judge took her word rather than mine. 485 00:35:33,403 --> 00:35:36,243 What she's done isn't against the law, 486 00:35:36,283 --> 00:35:39,003 and the police would not help. 487 00:35:39,923 --> 00:35:43,243 It's like a civil matter rather than a law enforcement thing. 488 00:35:44,603 --> 00:35:48,283 I think Darren has always lived with his grandmother, 489 00:35:48,323 --> 00:35:50,083 Dena's mother, Margaret. 490 00:35:52,763 --> 00:35:54,723 I got the impression 491 00:35:54,763 --> 00:35:57,043 he's been taught the father is the devil. 492 00:35:58,923 --> 00:36:01,963 So, he's been brainwashed. 493 00:36:02,003 --> 00:36:03,203 Of course, he has. 494 00:36:05,283 --> 00:36:07,283 I wanted a life together with my son. 495 00:36:09,123 --> 00:36:11,963 But I hadn't seen Darren for three or four years. 496 00:36:13,523 --> 00:36:18,603 When I left, all I could say is, "Daddy will see you again soon." 497 00:36:20,043 --> 00:36:21,723 But I never saw him after that. 498 00:36:24,083 --> 00:36:27,363 I remember sending things for his birthday. 499 00:36:29,443 --> 00:36:31,163 It was all sent back to me. 500 00:36:34,363 --> 00:36:37,563 I've never known what he's done in his life, 501 00:36:37,603 --> 00:36:39,203 how he got on at school. 502 00:36:40,283 --> 00:36:42,683 Darren is the greatest loss of my life. 503 00:36:53,563 --> 00:36:57,243 I was frustrated that we hadn't got a charge. 504 00:36:59,203 --> 00:37:03,803 Dena completely destroyed Lee's life and Julian Webb had been found dead. 505 00:37:05,483 --> 00:37:08,683 There is a killer out there and I was definitely worried. 506 00:37:08,723 --> 00:37:11,563 I just knew something else was going to happen. 507 00:37:11,603 --> 00:37:15,603 I had no doubt that she'll be looking to meet more victims. 508 00:37:16,923 --> 00:37:19,243 And that's what concerns me the greatest. 509 00:37:31,523 --> 00:37:36,203 In August of 1995, a man walks into the police station at Worthing, 510 00:37:36,243 --> 00:37:40,163 and states that he is a victim of Dena as well. 511 00:37:40,203 --> 00:37:42,883 And his name is Rob Waite. 512 00:37:42,923 --> 00:37:45,043 Dena had mentioned his name several times, 513 00:37:45,083 --> 00:37:48,083 blaming him for all kinds of thefts and things. 514 00:37:48,123 --> 00:37:50,203 And I thought it's just another made up name 515 00:37:50,243 --> 00:37:51,443 that she'd come up with. 516 00:37:53,003 --> 00:37:55,163 But this guy has arrived to tell me 517 00:37:55,203 --> 00:37:58,803 he has been coerced to go to America with Dena. 518 00:38:00,523 --> 00:38:02,843 And the date that he was there is exactly the same 519 00:38:02,883 --> 00:38:06,803 as when Lee met Dena at a hotel, and then followed her back 520 00:38:06,843 --> 00:38:08,283 to where she was with a guy. 521 00:38:10,283 --> 00:38:11,603 That was Rob Waite. 522 00:38:14,923 --> 00:38:17,843 Alarm bells go off straight away. 523 00:38:17,883 --> 00:38:21,763 Dena had told him that she's dying from cancer, 524 00:38:21,803 --> 00:38:25,603 and she wanted to go to America for the last three months of her life. 525 00:38:25,643 --> 00:38:29,363 So, he had agreed to take all the money that he could 526 00:38:29,403 --> 00:38:30,803 and they went to Florida. 527 00:38:31,963 --> 00:38:34,603 And I sat there open mouthed. 528 00:38:34,643 --> 00:38:38,963 Dena's told Rob the same fabricated story that she told Julian. 529 00:38:40,883 --> 00:38:45,003 They had ended up doing midnight flits from hotels, motels, 530 00:38:45,043 --> 00:38:48,683 and taking anything that they could grab before they left 531 00:38:48,723 --> 00:38:50,083 cos people were after them. 532 00:38:52,643 --> 00:38:55,403 And then Rob told us that she administered something to him 533 00:38:55,443 --> 00:38:56,763 in their hotel. 534 00:38:57,723 --> 00:39:00,803 He felt a sharp pain in his upper thigh. 535 00:39:03,123 --> 00:39:06,003 He believed that she was administering insulin. 536 00:39:07,403 --> 00:39:10,243 Dena then went back to England 537 00:39:10,283 --> 00:39:12,843 and abandoned him in America. 538 00:39:12,883 --> 00:39:15,643 He had no money, no clothes. 539 00:39:15,683 --> 00:39:20,083 All he had with him, really, was his passport and a few pennies. 540 00:39:22,923 --> 00:39:26,523 And now I'm thinking, could this be what happened to Julian Webb? 541 00:39:27,683 --> 00:39:30,283 Was he injected with insulin as well? 542 00:39:34,843 --> 00:39:37,323 We're truly shocked by what is going on, 543 00:39:37,363 --> 00:39:41,163 that this is her pattern of behaviour. 544 00:39:41,203 --> 00:39:45,403 I realised that we had something much more serious going on here. 545 00:39:45,443 --> 00:39:48,843 DIRECTOR: Now you've got three victims. Can you take action? 546 00:39:48,883 --> 00:39:52,323 At that point, there was nothing else we could do to arrest Dena, 547 00:39:52,363 --> 00:39:56,283 because we had no proof that she had injected Rob. 548 00:39:57,763 --> 00:40:01,763 I kept trying to push people to see if there was anything else, 549 00:40:01,803 --> 00:40:04,163 because I think everybody had begun to think, 550 00:40:04,203 --> 00:40:06,203 there may be other victims here. 551 00:40:07,083 --> 00:40:09,363 But then the case went quiet. 552 00:40:26,443 --> 00:40:31,203 RICHARD: On the 1st of January 2000, 553 00:40:32,363 --> 00:40:36,763 there I am, on the floor, feet tied, hands tied, 554 00:40:36,803 --> 00:40:39,563 and I'm thinking, this is uncomfortable. 555 00:40:39,603 --> 00:40:43,403 And she said, "I'm just going to tie you up and have some fun." 556 00:40:43,443 --> 00:40:45,683 And she put a towel over my face. 557 00:40:45,723 --> 00:40:48,203 She goes, "Can you hear me? Can you hear me?" 558 00:40:48,243 --> 00:40:50,763 "Yeah, I can hear you." 559 00:40:50,803 --> 00:40:52,643 Bang! (GLASS SHATTERS) (MAN SCREAMS) 560 00:40:52,683 --> 00:40:55,323 A bright flash goes off in your head. 561 00:40:55,363 --> 00:40:59,163 It's like someone firing a flash gun in your eyes. 562 00:41:00,723 --> 00:41:02,363 Bang! Again. (SCREAMING) 563 00:41:04,403 --> 00:41:05,843 So hard 564 00:41:05,883 --> 00:41:09,163 the impact split my head up both sides. 565 00:41:09,203 --> 00:41:12,083 I didn't even know I'd been stabbed. 566 00:41:12,123 --> 00:41:16,163 Honestly, I just couldn't take it in. 567 00:41:16,203 --> 00:41:18,963 "What? Your wife just tried to kill you?" 568 00:41:21,083 --> 00:41:25,123 There was so much blood, it was all over the floor. 569 00:41:26,323 --> 00:41:29,083 To her horror, I sat up. 570 00:41:31,483 --> 00:41:33,603 I'm literally fighting for my life. 571 00:41:34,963 --> 00:41:36,363 I pinned her on the floor. 572 00:41:37,603 --> 00:41:39,123 She dropped the knife. 573 00:41:40,843 --> 00:41:43,843 And I said to her, "What on earth are you doing?" 574 00:41:43,883 --> 00:41:46,923 And she said, "It's all been a lie." 575 00:41:46,963 --> 00:41:48,203 All been a lie! 576 00:41:51,003 --> 00:41:52,643 There was nothing else said... 577 00:41:54,923 --> 00:41:59,323 So... she calls her parents. 578 00:42:00,683 --> 00:42:03,883 After about two and a half hours, her parents turned up. 579 00:42:05,003 --> 00:42:06,363 Her mother walks in. 580 00:42:06,403 --> 00:42:10,123 First thing, she said, "Dena, what have you done this time?" 581 00:42:12,763 --> 00:42:17,683 Her father took me to a hospital to get me stitched up. 582 00:42:20,523 --> 00:42:23,243 I was lying in a hospital bed. 583 00:42:23,283 --> 00:42:28,283 I could see two policemen attending another incident. 584 00:42:29,923 --> 00:42:32,443 And I was trying to get their attention. 585 00:42:32,483 --> 00:42:35,603 But her father pulled the curtains. He wouldn't let me. 586 00:42:37,603 --> 00:42:39,603 When we got back to the house, 587 00:42:39,643 --> 00:42:43,043 Dena had packed some basic stuff. 588 00:42:43,083 --> 00:42:46,483 I just assumed she was going off with her parents. 589 00:42:46,523 --> 00:42:48,203 And I'm trying to work it all out. 590 00:42:48,243 --> 00:42:51,963 I could still hear the ringing of this baseball bat in my head. 591 00:42:52,003 --> 00:42:55,803 I really wanted to go to sleep. The pain was incredible. 592 00:42:57,603 --> 00:43:00,763 And I noticed that all the blood had been cleared up. 593 00:43:01,963 --> 00:43:04,403 Her mother had cleaned it up. 594 00:43:05,643 --> 00:43:09,043 And then they left, and they drove her back to Devon. 595 00:43:19,923 --> 00:43:21,963 So, I'm in the DS's office, 596 00:43:22,003 --> 00:43:25,163 he tells me take a seat and we're going to talk about job 597 00:43:25,203 --> 00:43:27,643 that's been called in the day before. 598 00:43:29,203 --> 00:43:34,763 Richard Thompson says he has been assaulted by his wife, 599 00:43:34,803 --> 00:43:38,643 and her name is Dena Thompson. 600 00:43:39,923 --> 00:43:42,363 I just went, "Fuck!" 601 00:43:44,163 --> 00:43:48,723 Dena Thompson was also Dena Webb and Dena Wyatt. 602 00:43:50,563 --> 00:43:52,883 I thought, this can't be happening again. 603 00:43:56,003 --> 00:43:59,123 Immediately, police officers were sent to the address. 604 00:44:00,563 --> 00:44:03,243 But because Richard had waited so long to contact us - 605 00:44:03,283 --> 00:44:05,923 it had been three days since the alleged attack - 606 00:44:07,683 --> 00:44:10,283 we were playing catch up. 607 00:44:10,323 --> 00:44:13,323 By the time we get to do the bathroom, 608 00:44:13,363 --> 00:44:17,203 Richard told us Mum has already cleaned up all the blood 609 00:44:17,243 --> 00:44:18,723 that's in there. 610 00:44:19,843 --> 00:44:22,843 You would never clean a scene ever like that, ever. 611 00:44:22,883 --> 00:44:24,443 And somebody had. 612 00:44:25,883 --> 00:44:28,803 MARTYN: This is a crime scene. The man nearly died. 613 00:44:30,523 --> 00:44:32,083 It stretches belief. 614 00:44:33,043 --> 00:44:35,483 We'd lost a lot of evidence. 615 00:44:35,523 --> 00:44:38,003 The golden hour, as we call it, had been and gone. 616 00:44:38,043 --> 00:44:41,323 The logical person would dial 999. 617 00:44:42,363 --> 00:44:45,043 Richard had wasted three days 618 00:44:45,083 --> 00:44:48,443 and allowed the scene to be destroyed. 619 00:44:48,483 --> 00:44:50,723 Unbelievable. 620 00:44:50,763 --> 00:44:53,603 SEAN: Not only had we lost all the evidence that could give us 621 00:44:53,643 --> 00:44:57,563 clear proof of what happened, we had another problem... 622 00:44:57,603 --> 00:45:00,643 Richard doesn't want to press charges. 623 00:45:00,683 --> 00:45:02,363 I was shocked. 624 00:45:04,123 --> 00:45:06,003 MARTYN: I was in a real dilemma 625 00:45:06,043 --> 00:45:08,363 because if he didn't want to prosecute, 626 00:45:08,403 --> 00:45:11,883 Dena could go off again and do this to someone else. 627 00:45:13,403 --> 00:45:16,443 This woman is out there, and she could do it again... 628 00:45:16,483 --> 00:45:18,003 She's dangerous. 629 00:45:25,763 --> 00:45:29,523 Subtitles by Sky Access Services www.skyaccessibility.sky