1 00:00:01,227 --> 00:00:01,983 So what should we make of a religious group 2 00:00:01,985 --> 00:00:03,627 that exists in the shadows? 3 00:00:05,506 --> 00:00:07,464 [narrator] When a self-proclaimed profi 4 00:00:07,466 --> 00:00:11,051 claims a 16-year-old Carol Dennis as his bride.. 5 00:00:11,971 --> 00:00:14,471 [Carol] I just started crying hysterically, 6 00:00:14,473 --> 00:00:17,683 but my mother said, "This is your calling." 7 00:00:17,685 --> 00:00:20,894 [narrator] ...it's just the beginning o her hell on Earth. 8 00:00:20,971 --> 00:00:23,397 [Carol] He brought in another wife 9 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:25,941 and he would have sex with h 10 00:00:25,943 --> 00:00:28,569 with me in the bed. 11 00:00:28,571 --> 00:00:33,490 [narrator] But in a world where the law of the Lord trumps the law of the land.. 12 00:00:33,492 --> 00:00:36,869 [man] They were beaten, assaulted, kicked. 13 00:00:36,871 --> 00:00:39,788 King was a violent master manipulator. 14 00:00:39,790 --> 00:00:42,249 [narrator] ...those in powe make their own rules 15 00:00:42,251 --> 00:00:45,127 and escape is the only option. 16 00:00:45,129 --> 00:00:47,087 [Carol] He would say, "Don't ever leave. 17 00:00:47,164 --> 00:00:50,758 I will track you down and I will kill you." 18 00:00:50,834 --> 00:00:53,093 I thought for sure he would find me. 19 00:01:15,326 --> 00:01:17,951 I was high-energy. 20 00:01:18,704 --> 00:01:20,412 From the time I was born, 21 00:01:20,489 --> 00:01:22,331 I was happy-go-lucky. 22 00:01:24,293 --> 00:01:28,962 Anything to do with outdoors brought me joy. 23 00:01:30,091 --> 00:01:33,425 But my mom thought the world was evil 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,555 and, one day, God would destroy it. 25 00:01:38,557 --> 00:01:42,392 My dad didn't really pay any attention to any of it. 26 00:01:42,436 --> 00:01:44,103 He worked all the time. 27 00:01:44,105 --> 00:01:47,606 He drove a bus and taxi cab 28 00:01:49,151 --> 00:01:52,319 [narrator] It's the late '60 in Owen Sound, Ontario. 29 00:01:52,396 --> 00:01:54,696 Carol Dennis' mom takes her to a new church 30 00:01:54,773 --> 00:01:58,575 founded by a charismatic Mormon minister. 31 00:01:58,577 --> 00:02:01,620 [Daphne Bramham] Stan King told everyone that God had spoken to him 32 00:02:02,164 --> 00:02:03,705 and that this was his destiny 33 00:02:03,782 --> 00:02:06,208 that he was to be the profit. 34 00:02:06,285 --> 00:02:08,961 [Carol] And my mother got all interested in it 35 00:02:08,963 --> 00:02:11,380 and joined Stan's church, 36 00:02:11,456 --> 00:02:13,966 the Church of Jesus Christ Restored. 37 00:02:13,968 --> 00:02:16,552 And that's how it all starte 38 00:02:16,554 --> 00:02:21,348 I didn't know all the hidden secrets at that time. 39 00:02:21,425 --> 00:02:25,185 As Stan got to trust my mother a little bit, 40 00:02:25,187 --> 00:02:29,690 she was brought into that inner circle 41 00:02:29,692 --> 00:02:33,277 where some of these secrets were being shared. 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,654 There was a lot of whispering going on. 43 00:02:35,656 --> 00:02:38,282 Mom was receiving phone call 44 00:02:38,325 --> 00:02:41,869 [narrator] As a sheltered teen, unexposed to the outside world, 45 00:02:41,871 --> 00:02:46,498 Carol is ill-prepared for the day her mother sits her down for a talk. 46 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:50,043 She said, "God has a special calling for you. 47 00:02:50,045 --> 00:02:53,547 He wants you to be Stan King's wife." 48 00:02:54,842 --> 00:02:57,467 I looked at her in disbelief. 49 00:02:57,469 --> 00:02:59,845 I said, "Well, he already has a wife. 50 00:02:59,922 --> 00:03:01,805 That's not possible." 51 00:03:01,807 --> 00:03:04,975 She said, "Well, this is what God wants. 52 00:03:05,019 --> 00:03:06,676 This is your calling." 53 00:03:08,647 --> 00:03:10,814 [Daphne] The doctrine of polygamy is really based 54 00:03:10,816 --> 00:03:13,775 in Joseph Smith's teaching that having many wives 55 00:03:13,777 --> 00:03:17,362 was important in order to get to the kingdom of heaven 56 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:22,201 So who better to groom a young girl to become a polygamist wife 57 00:03:22,277 --> 00:03:24,578 than her mother? 58 00:03:24,580 --> 00:03:28,874 If God is speaking to the man who wants to marry your daughter 59 00:03:28,876 --> 00:03:30,767 you give up your daughter 60 00:03:30,769 --> 00:03:35,172 because your family gets to go to the celestial kingdom with you. 61 00:03:35,174 --> 00:03:39,843 [Carol] She said, "You are going to give birt to special children, 62 00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:44,223 special sons that will do great work for God." 63 00:03:44,299 --> 00:03:47,142 I just started crying hysterically. 64 00:03:47,144 --> 00:03:50,020 It was just revolting to me 65 00:03:50,231 --> 00:03:51,605 I said, 66 00:03:51,607 --> 00:03:55,108 "He's old. He's double my age." 67 00:03:55,694 --> 00:03:58,528 I'd be 16, 17. 68 00:04:00,282 --> 00:04:02,074 From that point on, 69 00:04:02,076 --> 00:04:04,701 my life was sheer hell. 70 00:04:08,666 --> 00:04:11,875 She started giving me medication, 71 00:04:11,877 --> 00:04:14,586 sedating me to calm me down 72 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:17,714 What she gave me, I don't remember. 73 00:04:17,758 --> 00:04:20,801 Finally, I was just a walking zombie. 74 00:04:22,346 --> 00:04:24,429 I started to lose Carol. 75 00:04:26,308 --> 00:04:29,017 I had to become somebody else. 76 00:04:29,019 --> 00:04:32,062 It's a grueling process. It's a slow process. 77 00:04:33,148 --> 00:04:35,565 If you don't follow the rule 78 00:04:35,567 --> 00:04:37,609 you don't get into heaven. 79 00:04:37,686 --> 00:04:40,862 And those are very, very powerful ideas. 80 00:04:46,704 --> 00:04:49,830 [Carol] Finally, there was a little trial run 81 00:04:51,417 --> 00:04:54,668 There was a member that lived in Owen Sound 82 00:04:54,670 --> 00:04:58,505 and I was to go to this lady's house. 83 00:04:59,717 --> 00:05:01,341 And when I got there, 84 00:05:01,343 --> 00:05:02,843 everybody left. 85 00:05:03,971 --> 00:05:05,387 Except Stan. 86 00:05:05,389 --> 00:05:07,889 We joked and chitchatted, 87 00:05:07,891 --> 00:05:11,435 and the next I knew, he was on top of me 88 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:13,437 and I was horrified. 89 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,399 And I jumped up and started screaming. 90 00:05:17,401 --> 00:05:20,193 So he phoned my mother and she came and got me. 91 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:23,488 A few days later, 92 00:05:23,490 --> 00:05:26,616 Mom received another call from the same lady, 93 00:05:27,578 --> 00:05:29,953 "Bring Carol. Stan's not here." 94 00:05:30,414 --> 00:05:31,913 And when I got there, 95 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:34,416 she started yelling at me. 96 00:05:34,493 --> 00:05:38,086 "How dare you? Don't you reject him like that." 97 00:05:38,163 --> 00:05:41,715 So Mom took me home after that episode, 98 00:05:41,717 --> 00:05:43,592 and things proceeded from there. 99 00:05:45,721 --> 00:05:48,221 My mother continued to manipulate me 100 00:05:48,298 --> 00:05:49,848 and work with me 101 00:05:50,559 --> 00:05:53,894 until, eventually, I gave up. 102 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:08,158 [narrator] In 1971, when Carol is of legal age, 103 00:06:08,202 --> 00:06:12,287 she feels she has no choice but to move to Stan King's farm 104 00:06:12,289 --> 00:06:16,208 where he has established a commune of about a dozen followers. 105 00:06:20,798 --> 00:06:24,800 [man] Owen Sounds about two and a half hours north of Toronto. 106 00:06:26,053 --> 00:06:28,095 So when most people think of cult, 107 00:06:28,097 --> 00:06:31,223 they might think of jungles in South America. 108 00:06:31,225 --> 00:06:34,601 They might think of very remote places in the middle of the desert. 109 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:36,853 Not the case. 110 00:06:36,855 --> 00:06:39,856 Cults take places, as we've learned, anywhere. 111 00:06:39,858 --> 00:06:42,901 And they can take place close to population bases. 112 00:06:42,978 --> 00:06:45,362 And that's certainly what happened in this case. 113 00:06:45,364 --> 00:06:48,740 And it was a surprise, a shock to a lot of people. 114 00:06:49,701 --> 00:06:52,577 [narrator] Stan's legal wife Erna, lives at the farm, 115 00:06:52,579 --> 00:06:54,704 although she spends most nights away 116 00:06:54,706 --> 00:06:56,456 working as a nurse. 117 00:06:56,458 --> 00:06:58,291 Also part of Carol's new family 118 00:06:58,293 --> 00:07:00,252 are Stan and Erna's sons, 119 00:07:00,254 --> 00:07:02,254 Judd, Joe and Fred, 120 00:07:02,330 --> 00:07:05,006 one of whom will be Stan's future heir. 121 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:10,053 [Carol] They were around my age. 122 00:07:10,055 --> 00:07:12,305 I did like them. 123 00:07:12,307 --> 00:07:15,392 I knew them from the young people's group 124 00:07:15,394 --> 00:07:16,935 at the church. 125 00:07:16,937 --> 00:07:20,230 But Fred, he was the youngest son. 126 00:07:20,274 --> 00:07:24,401 He didn't really like everybody being there. 127 00:07:24,403 --> 00:07:30,198 His normal life changed when Stan took on wives. 128 00:07:30,826 --> 00:07:32,742 It upset his world 129 00:07:32,786 --> 00:07:36,413 and there was a resentment. 130 00:07:40,461 --> 00:07:44,504 [narrator] Carol has been saving herself for marriage 131 00:07:44,506 --> 00:07:48,300 I dreamed of the day that I would find the right fella 132 00:07:48,302 --> 00:07:50,343 and fall in love. 133 00:07:50,345 --> 00:07:53,972 [narrator] But now, she wil be Stan's fourth wife. 134 00:07:53,974 --> 00:07:58,935 [Carol] A legal wife, you have the paperwork to go with it. 135 00:07:58,979 --> 00:08:02,564 A church wife, there's no paperwork involve 136 00:08:02,566 --> 00:08:07,777 It's the sex act that makes you a spiritual wife. 137 00:08:07,779 --> 00:08:11,114 I was expected to sleep with the profit, 138 00:08:12,201 --> 00:08:14,910 but I just could not do it. 139 00:08:14,912 --> 00:08:17,954 I would go to bed with my clothes on. 140 00:08:17,956 --> 00:08:20,540 And that went on for the longest time. 141 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:25,879 And in the meanwhile, they were teaching me things around the farm. 142 00:08:25,881 --> 00:08:30,133 We had a lot of company coming and going all the time. 143 00:08:30,135 --> 00:08:34,804 So there were a lot of people to feed and a lot of dishes to do 144 00:08:34,806 --> 00:08:38,016 and a lot of cleaning to do 145 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:42,395 I didn't drive, but I was allowed to go for walks. 146 00:08:44,608 --> 00:08:47,317 I could go and sit by the river 147 00:08:47,903 --> 00:08:50,529 and just enjoy the peace. 148 00:08:50,531 --> 00:08:52,697 Those are the things that kept me going. 149 00:08:54,284 --> 00:08:56,576 But I was always frightened 150 00:08:56,578 --> 00:08:59,162 especially at bedtime. 151 00:08:59,164 --> 00:09:02,499 One of the paradoxes in these polygamist groups is that 152 00:09:02,501 --> 00:09:05,293 they don't teach them anything about sex. 153 00:09:05,295 --> 00:09:09,381 Most of them don't know. It's all very hush-hush. 154 00:09:09,457 --> 00:09:11,091 [narrator] Finally, the day comes 155 00:09:11,093 --> 00:09:14,719 when the profit grows tired of Carol's resistance. 156 00:09:14,796 --> 00:09:16,846 [Carol] I was ordered into the bed 157 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:19,140 and he was having sex with me 158 00:09:19,217 --> 00:09:20,684 and that's all there was to it. 159 00:09:20,727 --> 00:09:24,437 I didn't wanna go. I was terrified. 160 00:09:24,439 --> 00:09:27,107 [narrator] This sexual assau is just the beginning 161 00:09:27,183 --> 00:09:30,235 of Carol's unrelenting nightmare. 162 00:09:30,312 --> 00:09:32,279 [Daphne] Pedophiles will charm the parents 163 00:09:32,281 --> 00:09:33,947 and then they give up their children. 164 00:09:33,949 --> 00:09:36,491 Stan King followed the playbook. 165 00:09:36,493 --> 00:09:39,077 [Carol] He brought in a wife 166 00:09:39,154 --> 00:09:41,871 She was 14 at the time. 167 00:09:41,873 --> 00:09:45,041 [Daphne] They are expected to do what the profit wants them to do. 168 00:09:46,211 --> 00:09:47,294 [Carol] It was horrible, 169 00:09:47,296 --> 00:09:49,421 absolutely horrible. 170 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:59,097 [narrator] A few months afte Carol Dennis moves onto his farm commune, 171 00:09:59,174 --> 00:10:01,850 Stan King makes her his church wife 172 00:10:01,852 --> 00:10:03,727 by taking her virginity. 173 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,314 [Carol] I guess you could call it rape. 174 00:10:09,526 --> 00:10:11,693 And from that time on, 175 00:10:11,695 --> 00:10:17,198 I was his wife and expected to perform like a wife. 176 00:10:20,871 --> 00:10:24,664 There was a lot of psychological control. 177 00:10:24,666 --> 00:10:28,209 You had to make the profit happy. 178 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:32,964 Eventually, he brought in a wife, 179 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:37,636 a young girl, and she stayed with us. 180 00:10:37,712 --> 00:10:40,764 And he would have sex with her 181 00:10:40,807 --> 00:10:42,349 with me in the bed. 182 00:10:42,768 --> 00:10:44,267 Her name was Lollie. 183 00:10:44,269 --> 00:10:48,855 She became Stan's wife when she was ten years old. 184 00:10:48,857 --> 00:10:53,151 So she was quite comfortabl with that life. 185 00:10:57,699 --> 00:11:00,533 [Daphne] The expectation when you're a polygamist wif 186 00:11:00,535 --> 00:11:03,495 is that you will do whatever you're told. 187 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:06,831 If your husband says to you, 188 00:11:06,833 --> 00:11:08,875 "You must come to my bed tonight," 189 00:11:08,877 --> 00:11:12,629 and he asks two other wives, or three other wives, 190 00:11:12,631 --> 00:11:15,632 they all must show up. And when they show up, 191 00:11:15,676 --> 00:11:20,053 they are expected to do what the profit wants them to do. 192 00:11:22,015 --> 00:11:24,808 [Carol] You just learn to be obedient. 193 00:11:24,810 --> 00:11:27,519 If you didn't please the profit 194 00:11:27,521 --> 00:11:31,147 or showed any kind of resistance, 195 00:11:31,149 --> 00:11:34,150 nobody in the house would talk to you. 196 00:11:34,152 --> 00:11:36,736 That was a very lonely world. 197 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,157 [Daphne] Everything in polygamy comes down to arithmetic. 198 00:11:41,159 --> 00:11:43,910 If one man has five wives, it means four men have none. 199 00:11:43,912 --> 00:11:47,038 It's not good for anybody unless you're the leader. 200 00:11:47,708 --> 00:11:50,500 Eventually, there would be group sex. 201 00:11:50,535 --> 00:11:56,965 And certainly that was even worse than one wife in bed with you. 202 00:11:57,041 --> 00:11:59,884 It was horrifying, but it made him happy 203 00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:01,928 and that was life. 204 00:12:06,893 --> 00:12:09,728 [Daphne] While Carol's night duties are in the bedroom, 205 00:12:09,730 --> 00:12:12,355 her days offer little respit 206 00:12:12,357 --> 00:12:15,108 [Carol] It was a busy, busy life. 207 00:12:15,143 --> 00:12:20,822 We raised turkeys and pigs on a large scale. 208 00:12:20,824 --> 00:12:22,782 [Tamming] To keep a cult going, 209 00:12:22,859 --> 00:12:25,618 it needs income. It needs financing. 210 00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:27,370 And it's really easy to make money 211 00:12:27,372 --> 00:12:29,205 when you don't pay your employees. 212 00:12:29,207 --> 00:12:31,624 They were working long hard hours. 213 00:12:32,377 --> 00:12:35,378 He started a health food business. 214 00:12:35,380 --> 00:12:38,715 I became very involved with all of that. 215 00:12:38,717 --> 00:12:42,761 I've always had somewhat of a business mind anyway. 216 00:12:43,889 --> 00:12:45,930 [narrator] Carol's involveme in the cult's business 217 00:12:45,932 --> 00:12:49,100 helps compensate for a lack of family contact. 218 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:53,772 Her mother moves to Missour on behalf of the cult 219 00:12:53,774 --> 00:12:58,526 while her father remains in Ontario and rejects the religion. 220 00:12:58,603 --> 00:13:01,905 [Carol] Stan didn't want my father around 221 00:13:01,907 --> 00:13:04,073 to influence me in any way. 222 00:13:04,075 --> 00:13:05,867 [phone ringing] 223 00:13:05,869 --> 00:13:08,661 He would phone to the farm, 224 00:13:08,663 --> 00:13:11,080 but he was told I wasn't there. 225 00:13:11,082 --> 00:13:13,792 [phone continues ringing] 226 00:13:14,753 --> 00:13:16,586 [narrator] In 1976, 227 00:13:16,630 --> 00:13:20,799 Carol finally makes good on her most important job. 228 00:13:20,801 --> 00:13:23,051 [Carol] When I was about 23 229 00:13:23,127 --> 00:13:26,721 I had a large cyst on my ovary 230 00:13:26,723 --> 00:13:28,807 which was removed. 231 00:13:28,809 --> 00:13:31,309 Three months after surgery, I was pregnant. 232 00:13:36,525 --> 00:13:38,817 My father didn't know anything about it. 233 00:13:38,893 --> 00:13:43,530 But about six weeks before my son was born, 234 00:13:43,606 --> 00:13:46,449 he worried for my safety. 235 00:13:46,493 --> 00:13:49,911 He didn't always understand everything that was going on, 236 00:13:49,913 --> 00:13:52,205 but he loved me and he couldn't understand 237 00:13:52,207 --> 00:13:54,749 why I couldn't pick up the phone 238 00:13:54,751 --> 00:13:57,877 and just call him and say, "Hi, Dad, 239 00:13:57,879 --> 00:13:59,128 I'm okay." 240 00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:03,216 So he contacted the police. 241 00:14:05,345 --> 00:14:09,013 [narrator] This presents the opportunity that Carol had been hoping for. 242 00:14:09,015 --> 00:14:10,765 Police intervention. 243 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:13,101 I wanted to leave. 244 00:14:13,895 --> 00:14:15,728 I wanted to be saved. 245 00:14:16,481 --> 00:14:18,606 But when police arrive at the farm, 246 00:14:18,608 --> 00:14:21,025 Stan orders Carol to hide. 247 00:14:23,029 --> 00:14:26,239 [Carol] Stan went outside and we could hear everything 248 00:14:26,241 --> 00:14:28,283 They were just chitchatting 249 00:14:28,285 --> 00:14:32,120 and Stan reassured them that I was fine. 250 00:14:32,998 --> 00:14:36,291 He suggested that perhaps my father 251 00:14:36,293 --> 00:14:38,751 had mental issues. 252 00:14:38,753 --> 00:14:43,590 After all, Carol's an adult, 24 years old. 253 00:14:43,666 --> 00:14:45,383 So everything was dropped 254 00:14:45,385 --> 00:14:47,468 and the police were pleasan 255 00:14:47,470 --> 00:14:50,430 and they drove away. 256 00:14:58,231 --> 00:15:02,734 [narrator] Now, Stan takes action to embed Carol even more deeply into the cult. 257 00:15:04,863 --> 00:15:07,113 After that episode, 258 00:15:07,115 --> 00:15:11,200 they made me marry his eldest son, Joe King, 259 00:15:11,202 --> 00:15:13,953 to protect my unborn child. 260 00:15:15,332 --> 00:15:17,373 Stan, being the father, 261 00:15:17,417 --> 00:15:19,459 they didn't want that reveal 262 00:15:19,535 --> 00:15:21,836 that he had a polygamist wife, 263 00:15:21,913 --> 00:15:25,423 let alone many polygamist wives. 264 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:29,010 So the marriage to Joe was a sham marriage, 265 00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:30,553 on paper only. 266 00:15:30,555 --> 00:15:32,013 He never touched me. 267 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:40,063 [narrator] On July 2nd, 1977 268 00:15:40,065 --> 00:15:42,523 Carol gives birth to a baby boy. 269 00:15:43,526 --> 00:15:44,943 It was... 270 00:15:48,323 --> 00:15:50,114 [voice breaking] It was amazing. 271 00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:54,827 It brought me so much happiness. 272 00:15:56,414 --> 00:15:57,830 So much. 273 00:15:59,584 --> 00:16:03,086 And then 18 months after he was born, 274 00:16:03,088 --> 00:16:05,630 I had my second son. 275 00:16:05,632 --> 00:16:07,590 Two bundles of joy. 276 00:16:07,592 --> 00:16:11,719 It gave me reason to... to live. 277 00:16:14,766 --> 00:16:17,642 Stan would beam when he was around them. 278 00:16:17,644 --> 00:16:19,727 He just loved them. He adored them. 279 00:16:21,606 --> 00:16:24,148 And my sons adored him, too. 280 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:25,692 They loved him so much. 281 00:16:26,736 --> 00:16:29,278 [narrator] For the first tim in five years, 282 00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:31,990 Carol feels some contentmen in her life. 283 00:16:32,066 --> 00:16:34,033 But Stan's youngest son, Fre 284 00:16:34,035 --> 00:16:35,827 doesn't share the sentiment 285 00:16:37,414 --> 00:16:42,083 [Carol] Fred King showed episodes of jealousy 286 00:16:42,085 --> 00:16:43,876 towards my sons. 287 00:16:43,953 --> 00:16:45,420 He would torment them. 288 00:16:45,422 --> 00:16:49,215 "Here's a candy," and would almost be in their hand, 289 00:16:49,217 --> 00:16:52,677 and he'd take it away and put it in his own mouth. 290 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:54,762 He was just mean to them. 291 00:16:59,269 --> 00:17:01,394 [narrator] By 1982, 292 00:17:01,471 --> 00:17:04,188 Stan's cult has grown to include 80 congregants 293 00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:05,898 in the surrounding area. 294 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:09,610 [Carol] There was a lot happening. 295 00:17:09,612 --> 00:17:13,072 Stan eventually bought a printing company, 296 00:17:13,074 --> 00:17:15,783 which still exists to this day 297 00:17:15,785 --> 00:17:17,952 and is very successful. 298 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,414 [narrator] Stan also buys a former ski lodge 299 00:17:21,416 --> 00:17:23,249 just outside Owen Sound 300 00:17:23,326 --> 00:17:26,294 to accommodate his growing flock. 301 00:17:26,296 --> 00:17:29,297 There was a lot of heavy-duty renovation 302 00:17:29,299 --> 00:17:32,717 and everybody was working at it to help. 303 00:17:32,719 --> 00:17:35,636 We had a church branch in India. 304 00:17:35,713 --> 00:17:38,931 We supported an orphanage there. 305 00:17:40,769 --> 00:17:42,810 [narrator] By 1986, 306 00:17:42,812 --> 00:17:45,897 Stan has seven wives and ten children. 307 00:17:45,899 --> 00:17:47,774 He has fulfilled his dream 308 00:17:47,776 --> 00:17:50,318 and Carol has come to terms with her role 309 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,028 when tragedy strikes. 310 00:17:53,323 --> 00:17:56,115 [phone ringing] 311 00:17:58,703 --> 00:18:02,455 [Carol] One day one of his wives phoned me and said 312 00:18:02,457 --> 00:18:04,791 "I think Stan has had a stroke. 313 00:18:06,503 --> 00:18:08,711 He wants you here. Now." 314 00:18:10,673 --> 00:18:12,215 They did some testing 315 00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:17,720 and said he had two aneurysms on his brain. 316 00:18:17,764 --> 00:18:21,057 And the doctor said he would need surgery. 317 00:18:22,727 --> 00:18:24,435 So the decision was his 318 00:18:24,437 --> 00:18:27,105 and he said no. 319 00:18:27,107 --> 00:18:30,525 So he went back home to die 320 00:18:36,991 --> 00:18:39,951 And the last day came. 321 00:18:40,027 --> 00:18:43,704 I was with him and I did see him take his last breat 322 00:18:43,706 --> 00:18:47,458 and I felt his last heartbeat. 323 00:18:49,838 --> 00:18:51,671 Fred was really angry 324 00:18:51,747 --> 00:18:56,592 and he blamed Stan's death on the members, 325 00:18:56,803 --> 00:18:58,719 on all of us. 326 00:18:58,721 --> 00:19:03,641 And then he decided to resuscitate him. 327 00:19:03,718 --> 00:19:05,768 Fred did the heart compressions 328 00:19:05,770 --> 00:19:09,355 and then I was told I would do the mouth-to-mout 329 00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:14,193 He would swear at me, "Keep going, bitch. 330 00:19:14,195 --> 00:19:15,945 Keep going." 331 00:19:15,947 --> 00:19:17,780 [narrator] Stan is unresponsive. 332 00:19:17,782 --> 00:19:20,449 But Fred will not be deterre 333 00:19:20,493 --> 00:19:22,285 [Daphne] She has to try and wash the body 334 00:19:22,287 --> 00:19:24,203 and try and keep the body clean. 335 00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:26,998 Even as it's decomposing. 336 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,960 [Carol] It is the worst smel I have ever smelled. 337 00:19:31,546 --> 00:19:34,589 I still have a nightmare about it. 338 00:19:34,591 --> 00:19:37,258 [narrator] Carol will soon learn that Fred's wrath 339 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:39,260 has only just begun. 340 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:44,757 [narrator] Hours after the death, 341 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:49,353 Fred King remains convinced that his father will rise from the dead 342 00:19:49,355 --> 00:19:53,191 and insists that Carol continue to care for him. 343 00:19:53,193 --> 00:19:55,943 [Carol] It was unbelievable 344 00:19:56,020 --> 00:20:01,032 I knew he was gone, and I did not believe he was coming back. 345 00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:06,704 But I had to bathe the body every day. 346 00:20:06,781 --> 00:20:10,333 And I would have to tie a scarf around my mouth 347 00:20:10,335 --> 00:20:11,918 so I didn't breathe it in 348 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,088 because it would make you feel so nauseated. 349 00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:20,343 But also his body was going puffy and distorted. 350 00:20:20,345 --> 00:20:23,221 It was horrible, absolutely horrible. 351 00:20:27,435 --> 00:20:30,519 After almost a week, a priesthood member said, 352 00:20:30,521 --> 00:20:33,856 "Look, this body needs to be buried." 353 00:20:33,858 --> 00:20:36,150 And Fred agreed. 354 00:20:36,227 --> 00:20:40,154 So the ambulance, the coroner were all called 355 00:20:40,823 --> 00:20:42,823 The police were there. 356 00:20:42,825 --> 00:20:46,494 We had to write out what happened. 357 00:20:46,496 --> 00:20:49,413 We were to say that his wife, Erna, 358 00:20:49,490 --> 00:20:52,083 just could not give up the body. 359 00:20:52,085 --> 00:20:56,045 And that reason was accepted by the police. 360 00:20:56,089 --> 00:20:58,147 And no charges were laid. 361 00:20:58,149 --> 00:21:02,551 I eventually had to tell my children that their father died. 362 00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:05,096 That was hard. 363 00:21:08,935 --> 00:21:11,352 Some years before, 364 00:21:11,354 --> 00:21:16,399 Stan said that Fred would take over his position. 365 00:21:16,818 --> 00:21:18,818 But I worried about Fred 366 00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:21,237 because I knew he didn't like me. 367 00:21:21,281 --> 00:21:25,658 And I thought, "Will Fred be able to lead this church? 368 00:21:25,660 --> 00:21:27,868 Or will we all go to hell?" 369 00:21:27,945 --> 00:21:29,512 When Fred took over, 370 00:21:29,514 --> 00:21:34,500 he kicked myself and my two sons out of the farm 371 00:21:34,577 --> 00:21:39,130 and I was supposed to move to Guelph with another church wife, 372 00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:41,716 Angie, and her children. 373 00:21:44,721 --> 00:21:47,972 [narrator] Although Carol continues to attend church every weekend, 374 00:21:48,049 --> 00:21:50,599 her new home is two hours away. 375 00:21:51,811 --> 00:21:55,021 [Carol] It was a really big deal for my children. 376 00:21:55,023 --> 00:21:56,564 They were country boys 377 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,359 and, suddenly, we had neighbors all around us. 378 00:22:00,361 --> 00:22:03,779 And Angie didn't really like me. 379 00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:08,159 But at least the church wif thing would be over with. 380 00:22:09,329 --> 00:22:12,038 And I was looking forward to that part of it. 381 00:22:13,041 --> 00:22:16,250 I was told to pick up a cleaning job 382 00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:21,213 and every cent I made was handed over to Angie 383 00:22:21,215 --> 00:22:24,133 because I wasn't trustworthy 384 00:22:24,135 --> 00:22:28,304 It was a new chapter, a very different chapter. 385 00:22:29,307 --> 00:22:30,848 [narrator] A year later, 386 00:22:30,925 --> 00:22:33,434 one of Carol's main assumptions about her new li 387 00:22:33,436 --> 00:22:34,852 is shattered. 388 00:22:34,854 --> 00:22:38,105 It was conveyed to Angie to tell me 389 00:22:38,107 --> 00:22:40,983 that Fred would be taking over all the wives. 390 00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:45,488 And so I would be married to Fred. 391 00:22:45,490 --> 00:22:48,824 The horror to me was being married to someone 392 00:22:48,826 --> 00:22:51,827 that I did not want to be with. 393 00:22:51,829 --> 00:22:56,707 I thought I would not be that type of a slave anymore. 394 00:22:56,784 --> 00:22:59,251 I was overcome with the shock of it all. 395 00:22:59,328 --> 00:23:01,286 [Daphne] It's like property 396 00:23:01,288 --> 00:23:04,465 The new profit will quite often take the previous profit's wives 397 00:23:04,542 --> 00:23:05,774 And in this case, 398 00:23:05,776 --> 00:23:09,428 it was a toxic mixture of Fred with Carol. 399 00:23:12,850 --> 00:23:15,059 [Carol] He showed up at my house 400 00:23:17,397 --> 00:23:18,979 and he said, "Take your pants off 401 00:23:18,981 --> 00:23:20,231 and get on the bed." 402 00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:23,526 And he had sex with me. 403 00:23:24,654 --> 00:23:28,364 I felt degraded. I found him revolting. 404 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,826 He was considered my stepson 405 00:23:31,828 --> 00:23:34,495 and half brother to my own children. 406 00:23:35,248 --> 00:23:36,956 But I had no choice. 407 00:23:38,418 --> 00:23:42,044 And I was in the same situation all over again. 408 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,755 It was so depressing. 409 00:23:51,305 --> 00:23:53,305 Fred just didn't preach. 410 00:23:54,434 --> 00:23:59,854 He started pointing out how sinful everyone was. 411 00:23:59,856 --> 00:24:02,898 In the church, there was an 80-year-old lady. 412 00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:04,859 We called her Nana. 413 00:24:04,935 --> 00:24:07,570 One night during a night service, 414 00:24:07,572 --> 00:24:09,405 she dozed off. 415 00:24:09,449 --> 00:24:11,115 Fred rose his voice 416 00:24:11,192 --> 00:24:14,160 and preceded to chastise her. 417 00:24:14,162 --> 00:24:16,871 She was forced to stand up 418 00:24:16,906 --> 00:24:20,499 and pull her pants down to her ankles 419 00:24:20,501 --> 00:24:22,751 for the rest of the night. 420 00:24:25,882 --> 00:24:28,674 When chastisement started, 421 00:24:28,751 --> 00:24:32,219 you would just see every head in the room 422 00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:34,597 just immediately... [makes shooting sound] 423 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:39,143 If anyone ever intervened, 424 00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:41,103 they would be dead meat. 425 00:24:42,064 --> 00:24:45,399 Various people were physically assaulted. 426 00:24:46,652 --> 00:24:47,985 [Daphne] Many of these profits, 427 00:24:47,987 --> 00:24:50,863 it depends where they come in the lineage. 428 00:24:51,657 --> 00:24:54,074 Stan King had to be a charming guy 429 00:24:54,076 --> 00:24:56,577 in order to get people to follow him. 430 00:24:56,579 --> 00:24:58,496 Fred doesn't have to be charming. 431 00:24:58,498 --> 00:25:00,331 He has inherited this. 432 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:03,667 As a mother, seeing my sons assaulted, 433 00:25:03,744 --> 00:25:06,045 it just shattered me inside 434 00:25:06,121 --> 00:25:10,132 I would think to myself horrible things about Fred. 435 00:25:10,134 --> 00:25:12,009 Like "Should I get his butcher knife 436 00:25:12,086 --> 00:25:13,719 and slit his throat?" 437 00:25:15,765 --> 00:25:20,184 You were a work slave. You were a sex slave. 438 00:25:20,186 --> 00:25:23,020 He took his frustration out on all of us. 439 00:25:26,776 --> 00:25:29,151 One time, my son and I 440 00:25:29,153 --> 00:25:34,323 wanted to buy a couple of books for Fred's sons 441 00:25:34,325 --> 00:25:36,450 who were having a birthday. 442 00:25:36,452 --> 00:25:38,160 But we didn't have the money 443 00:25:38,162 --> 00:25:42,540 so we knew if you went picking raspberries, 444 00:25:42,542 --> 00:25:44,124 you could get paid. 445 00:25:45,628 --> 00:25:51,006 So we did this, and within a few days, 446 00:25:51,092 --> 00:25:53,926 Angie went to Fred and tattled on us. 447 00:25:55,888 --> 00:25:57,888 [narrator] The following Sunday at church, 448 00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:01,183 Fred asked Carol to step outside. 449 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:03,394 [Carol] I tried to explain to him 450 00:26:03,396 --> 00:26:08,482 that we were going to buy a couple presents for his two sons. 451 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,484 But he just roared at me. 452 00:26:10,486 --> 00:26:13,445 I was "evil." I was a "pig. 453 00:26:13,447 --> 00:26:18,033 And he started throwing me against the pillar on the porch. 454 00:26:18,077 --> 00:26:22,329 I lost track of how many times he slammed me 455 00:26:22,331 --> 00:26:26,208 And then I was on the cement ground. 456 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:28,794 Obviously, I had been unconscious. 457 00:26:28,796 --> 00:26:31,463 But he was still screaming at me. 458 00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:36,135 Finally, he informed one of his other church wives, 459 00:26:36,211 --> 00:26:38,929 "Get her something to wear. And he left. 460 00:26:39,432 --> 00:26:41,432 My clothes were ripped, 461 00:26:41,508 --> 00:26:44,476 my nose was bleeding, my mouth was bleeding. 462 00:26:44,478 --> 00:26:45,811 And she looked at me 463 00:26:45,813 --> 00:26:47,980 and filled with tears. 464 00:26:48,057 --> 00:26:51,317 He didn't know it, but she gave me a hug. 465 00:26:51,777 --> 00:26:55,029 To this day, I am in pain 466 00:26:55,656 --> 00:26:57,448 because of that beating. 467 00:27:01,662 --> 00:27:03,028 [narrator] Five years later 468 00:27:03,030 --> 00:27:05,831 when Carol's eldest son is 30 years old, 469 00:27:05,833 --> 00:27:09,627 he wakes her up one day with some life-changing news 470 00:27:11,213 --> 00:27:13,505 He said that I have someone picking me up 471 00:27:14,425 --> 00:27:15,716 and I'm leaving. 472 00:27:17,094 --> 00:27:18,344 I was shocked. 473 00:27:18,346 --> 00:27:21,138 He didn't want to leave us behind. 474 00:27:21,256 --> 00:27:24,683 But his chastisements were getting so severe. 475 00:27:24,685 --> 00:27:29,396 He said, "I know you two are not ready to leave yet. 476 00:27:29,398 --> 00:27:31,732 But I just can't do it. I can't take any more." 477 00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:36,153 So I stayed for my youngest son. 478 00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:38,280 But I couldn't quit crying. 479 00:27:38,324 --> 00:27:40,366 I was falling apart. 480 00:27:40,368 --> 00:27:44,578 I was in so much trouble because my eldest son left. 481 00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:50,000 My life was just even worse, if you can imagine that. 482 00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:53,962 I was chastised because I was an "unfit mother." 483 00:27:58,052 --> 00:28:01,512 [narrator] A year later, the pain becomes unbearable 484 00:28:02,556 --> 00:28:04,682 [Carol] And I thought then, 485 00:28:04,684 --> 00:28:07,518 "Look around at all the people you love. 486 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,396 Because you'll never see them again." 487 00:28:10,398 --> 00:28:15,359 Monday morning when I get home and everybody's gone to work, 488 00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:19,571 I will sneak out and phone my eldest son. 489 00:28:19,573 --> 00:28:22,116 I made all the arrangements to leave 490 00:28:22,118 --> 00:28:24,660 and a time was set. 491 00:28:24,704 --> 00:28:28,580 When my youngest son came home, he said to me, 492 00:28:28,582 --> 00:28:32,209 "I'm too afraid I will go to hell." 493 00:28:32,211 --> 00:28:34,628 I said, "He's going to kill me." 494 00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:37,005 But he didn't want me to leave. 495 00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:38,623 He blocked the door. 496 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,346 [narrator] Carol King has finally mustered the courag 497 00:28:44,348 --> 00:28:46,724 to escape Fred King's tyrann 498 00:28:46,726 --> 00:28:49,768 But she's faced with an impossible dilemma. 499 00:28:49,803 --> 00:28:53,522 Her 29-year-old son refuses to leave. 500 00:28:53,524 --> 00:28:57,901 Finally, my youngest son moved away from the door 501 00:28:57,903 --> 00:28:59,445 and let me leave. 502 00:28:59,447 --> 00:29:01,238 I said, "I love you," 503 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,615 and grabbed my belongings. 504 00:29:03,692 --> 00:29:08,078 Everything I had in the world was in two garbage bags. 505 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,581 My eldest son arrived with a vehicle 506 00:29:10,657 --> 00:29:12,958 and I was out of there. 507 00:29:14,587 --> 00:29:20,174 Leaving my youngest son behind was torture to me. 508 00:29:20,176 --> 00:29:24,136 But he knew if he wanted to leave, 509 00:29:24,213 --> 00:29:26,472 he could reach out to me. 510 00:29:26,474 --> 00:29:28,766 Maybe someday he would. 511 00:29:28,768 --> 00:29:32,394 [narrator] Carol has been with the cult for 37 years. 512 00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:34,313 It's all she's ever known. 513 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:41,361 [Carol] Eventually, my eldest son and I 514 00:29:41,363 --> 00:29:43,822 landed back in Owen Sound 515 00:29:44,825 --> 00:29:47,451 and we started a new life. 516 00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:51,705 I landed a job cleaning offices. 517 00:29:52,666 --> 00:29:55,000 Things were difficult. 518 00:29:55,002 --> 00:29:56,710 I didn't always have enough food. 519 00:29:56,712 --> 00:29:59,171 I had to walk everywhere. 520 00:29:59,173 --> 00:30:02,132 I worked all day and most evenings. 521 00:30:03,594 --> 00:30:04,968 [Daphne] Carol was lucky. 522 00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:07,763 She was lucky that her son chose to leave 523 00:30:07,765 --> 00:30:10,390 and was the catalyst to her leaving. 524 00:30:10,467 --> 00:30:12,893 She was lucky that she was resilient. 525 00:30:12,895 --> 00:30:15,437 And she was extraordinarily lucky 526 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:18,941 that one of the people she met while she was cleaning was John. 527 00:30:20,027 --> 00:30:21,376 [John Christie] When I met Carol, 528 00:30:21,378 --> 00:30:24,780 I was a city councilor in Owen Sound. 529 00:30:24,782 --> 00:30:28,909 I was also doing some contract work at Bayshore Broadcasting. 530 00:30:28,986 --> 00:30:32,538 This lady named Carol started to appear 531 00:30:32,540 --> 00:30:34,206 at the radio station. 532 00:30:35,084 --> 00:30:40,504 He introduced himself and a friendship blossomed. 533 00:30:40,506 --> 00:30:42,422 He could make me laugh. 534 00:30:42,424 --> 00:30:44,967 And it really felt good to laugh 535 00:30:44,969 --> 00:30:50,264 because I had lost my sense of humor over the years. 536 00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:53,684 Eventually, he did ask me out to dinner 537 00:30:53,686 --> 00:30:57,938 and I said yes, which shocked me. 538 00:30:59,483 --> 00:31:04,403 And our friendship grew into a romantic situation. 539 00:31:05,656 --> 00:31:10,659 It was the first time I had ever been in love. 540 00:31:10,703 --> 00:31:12,202 This is what it's like. 541 00:31:13,289 --> 00:31:14,997 I was totally smitten. 542 00:31:14,999 --> 00:31:17,040 [laughs] Just totally. 543 00:31:21,881 --> 00:31:25,007 Three or four months into our relationship, 544 00:31:25,009 --> 00:31:26,884 she decided to sit me down 545 00:31:26,886 --> 00:31:29,094 and tell me what her past wa 546 00:31:30,890 --> 00:31:33,473 When she finished that she said, 547 00:31:33,475 --> 00:31:35,684 "If you decide to walk away, 548 00:31:35,686 --> 00:31:37,102 I will understand." 549 00:31:37,104 --> 00:31:39,605 And I said, "Well, what do you want me to do?" 550 00:31:39,607 --> 00:31:41,648 And she said, "I want you to stay." 551 00:31:42,693 --> 00:31:45,694 And so, here we are. 552 00:31:48,991 --> 00:31:52,284 I couldn't propose to Carol until her divorce came throu 553 00:31:52,286 --> 00:31:55,412 from the sham marriage to Joe King. 554 00:31:55,998 --> 00:31:59,625 It was essentially uncontested. 555 00:31:59,627 --> 00:32:02,836 And then it was time to propose to her, because now 556 00:32:02,913 --> 00:32:05,631 she's legally available material. 557 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,051 [Carol] We were married in October. 558 00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:10,928 It was such a happy day. 559 00:32:11,004 --> 00:32:12,379 Very small wedding 560 00:32:12,381 --> 00:32:16,725 and a new chapter on that path of freedom. 561 00:32:18,687 --> 00:32:20,604 [narrator] But despite Carol's happy ending, 562 00:32:20,681 --> 00:32:22,981 she hasn't yet dealt with her own demons. 563 00:32:23,058 --> 00:32:25,609 And the trauma she suffered for so many years 564 00:32:25,611 --> 00:32:27,402 was brimming under the surface. 565 00:32:29,406 --> 00:32:31,615 A winter coat that John had bought me 566 00:32:31,617 --> 00:32:33,700 that meant so much to me 567 00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,285 was stolen. 568 00:32:35,362 --> 00:32:39,289 For someone to steal that off a coat rack, 569 00:32:39,366 --> 00:32:41,625 I just could not get over that. 570 00:32:41,627 --> 00:32:46,672 And that's when I said, "I'm tired of being a victim." 571 00:32:46,674 --> 00:32:51,426 I want to do something about Fred. 572 00:32:51,428 --> 00:32:56,932 He caused so much pain and agony, 573 00:32:56,934 --> 00:33:01,436 he needed to lose all his pleasures and privileges 574 00:33:02,982 --> 00:33:06,692 And that's when legal actions were started. 575 00:33:11,115 --> 00:33:13,031 [John Tamming] So many time I've interviewed clients 576 00:33:13,033 --> 00:33:15,701 that have suffered deep sexual abuse. 577 00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:20,831 And it's incredibly painful to go through those memories. 578 00:33:20,907 --> 00:33:22,249 It just is. 579 00:33:22,251 --> 00:33:25,919 And many of them are very busted-up human beings. 580 00:33:26,588 --> 00:33:28,547 But Carol, from somewhere, 581 00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:31,925 was just like a Rock of Gibraltar. 582 00:33:31,927 --> 00:33:35,846 And I remember just being gobsmacked by what I was being told. 583 00:33:35,848 --> 00:33:37,347 And I just let Carol talk 584 00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:39,808 and talk and talk. 585 00:33:39,852 --> 00:33:42,853 We knew that the criminal justice system in this country, 586 00:33:42,929 --> 00:33:45,772 the sentences for even some of the worst sexual abuse 587 00:33:45,849 --> 00:33:48,692 just often are not very meaningful. 588 00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:50,510 Let's be blunt. 589 00:33:50,512 --> 00:33:53,196 If you want to get to somebody like Fred, you get his pocketbook. 590 00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:57,659 [John] We filed a civil sui 591 00:33:57,661 --> 00:34:00,829 which spelled out a number of abuses, 592 00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:05,083 including physical, sexual, 593 00:34:05,085 --> 00:34:07,836 financial and psychological 594 00:34:07,838 --> 00:34:11,465 And there was a price put on each of those things. 595 00:34:12,968 --> 00:34:15,844 And early February of 2010, 596 00:34:15,846 --> 00:34:19,097 Fred King was served with the papers. 597 00:34:19,174 --> 00:34:24,478 It was the first time Fred had ever been sued 598 00:34:24,554 --> 00:34:27,064 over anything or taken to court. 599 00:34:27,140 --> 00:34:29,733 I can imagine he didn't like it. 600 00:34:30,444 --> 00:34:32,402 [Tamming] When I first met Fred, 601 00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:34,404 I just felt like I was in the presence of evil. 602 00:34:34,481 --> 00:34:36,464 His eyes were dead. 603 00:34:36,466 --> 00:34:39,117 And it occurred to me that this was one of the first times 604 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:40,635 in his life 605 00:34:40,637 --> 00:34:45,373 that somebody was not really that intimidated by him. 606 00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:48,668 I get to probe about, "What did you think the beating of her sons?" 607 00:34:48,670 --> 00:34:50,587 In front of Carol. 608 00:34:50,664 --> 00:34:53,006 "What did you think, Fred, that would do to the group?" 609 00:34:53,083 --> 00:34:55,592 It was not a good day for Fred. 610 00:34:59,848 --> 00:35:02,015 [narrator] Immediately following the interview, 611 00:35:02,017 --> 00:35:05,143 Fred's lawyer settles with one stipulation. 612 00:35:05,145 --> 00:35:08,105 Carol may not go public with the dollar value. 613 00:35:09,358 --> 00:35:11,149 I was quite happy about it. 614 00:35:11,151 --> 00:35:14,069 It helped me out a lot. 615 00:35:14,071 --> 00:35:16,279 The bank teller said it was the largest check 616 00:35:16,281 --> 00:35:18,907 she had ever deposited in her career, 617 00:35:19,326 --> 00:35:20,951 which was a lengthy career. 618 00:35:21,027 --> 00:35:24,204 A couple of days after we deposited the check, 619 00:35:25,332 --> 00:35:27,374 we met for lunch, a celebratory lunch, 620 00:35:27,376 --> 00:35:28,917 with John Tamming. 621 00:35:28,961 --> 00:35:31,628 And he said to us, 622 00:35:31,705 --> 00:35:34,172 "You're free to do whatever you want, 623 00:35:34,174 --> 00:35:36,091 as long as you don't disclose the amount. 624 00:35:36,093 --> 00:35:37,425 You could write a book. 625 00:35:37,469 --> 00:35:39,052 You can go to the media." 626 00:35:39,054 --> 00:35:40,804 So we decided to do both. 627 00:35:42,057 --> 00:35:44,474 [TV show host] A secretive sect, a dominating leader, 628 00:35:44,551 --> 00:35:46,852 young brides taken on faith 629 00:35:46,854 --> 00:35:48,478 -Ten was the youngest. -Ten? 630 00:35:48,555 --> 00:35:51,898 [Carol] He would scream, "If you leave this church, 631 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:55,193 I will hunt you down and kill you." 632 00:35:55,195 --> 00:35:57,612 [narrator] Carol's bold choi to tell her story 633 00:35:57,614 --> 00:36:00,532 will have unexpected consequences. 634 00:36:01,368 --> 00:36:03,577 As I first watched this on television, 635 00:36:03,653 --> 00:36:05,412 I was, uh, very surprised 636 00:36:05,414 --> 00:36:08,707 that this was happening right under our noses. 637 00:36:08,783 --> 00:36:10,625 I was anxious to get him into custody. 638 00:36:15,841 --> 00:36:18,633 [narrator] Grey County Polic are launching an investigati 639 00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:21,595 into Fred King's polygamous cult. 640 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:26,308 First step was to go and meet Carol Christie. 641 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:29,102 The whole story is so bizarre 642 00:36:29,179 --> 00:36:32,480 that it is somewhat unbelievable. 643 00:36:32,482 --> 00:36:34,399 But they believed me. 644 00:36:35,777 --> 00:36:38,820 [Peter] We're trying to put together enough evidence 645 00:36:38,822 --> 00:36:41,948 to have a formal interview with Fred King 646 00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:44,201 and his legal wife Linda King. 647 00:36:49,208 --> 00:36:50,624 So we have to get the interviews done 648 00:36:50,626 --> 00:36:52,959 of all the other people first. 649 00:36:52,961 --> 00:36:55,629 I did find it odd that the different church wives 650 00:36:55,705 --> 00:36:58,506 would actually give the same answers 651 00:36:58,592 --> 00:37:02,344 and, particularly, as far as "Who's the father of your children?" 652 00:37:02,346 --> 00:37:04,930 Their answer being "I don't know," 653 00:37:04,932 --> 00:37:06,306 was somewhat scripted. 654 00:37:06,308 --> 00:37:08,132 I heard that over and over. 655 00:37:08,134 --> 00:37:12,103 [narrator] Police also tracked down a few other cult escapees. 656 00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:14,981 They told us a number of cases where they were physically 657 00:37:14,983 --> 00:37:17,400 beaten, assaulted, kicked, 658 00:37:17,402 --> 00:37:21,488 or the allegation of Fred grooming a very young girl, 659 00:37:21,490 --> 00:37:24,366 eleven to thirteen years of age. 660 00:37:24,368 --> 00:37:27,327 Fred King was a violent master manipulator. 661 00:37:32,376 --> 00:37:35,001 [Carol] When Fred got wind of it all, 662 00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:37,161 he disappeared. 663 00:37:37,163 --> 00:37:40,131 [reporter] Police are still looking for 55-year-old Frederick King. 664 00:37:40,133 --> 00:37:43,343 He has been charged with assault, sexual exploitation 665 00:37:43,345 --> 00:37:45,086 assault causing bodily harm 666 00:37:45,097 --> 00:37:48,139 uttering death threats and assault with a deadly weapon 667 00:37:48,216 --> 00:37:53,019 [narrator] Weeks pass and finally there is a brea in the investigation. 668 00:37:53,021 --> 00:37:55,939 A license plate associated to Mr. King 669 00:37:55,974 --> 00:37:59,609 had been run by an officer in front of a motel. 670 00:38:01,697 --> 00:38:03,947 And he advised me that a woman had booked in 671 00:38:04,024 --> 00:38:05,598 by the name of Linda King. 672 00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:08,994 [narrator] Detective Ridgewa sets up surveillance 673 00:38:08,996 --> 00:38:11,288 outside the motel. 674 00:38:11,290 --> 00:38:13,832 Hours later, he observes Linda King 675 00:38:13,834 --> 00:38:15,625 heading towards the parking lot 676 00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:17,711 where she gets inside a van. 677 00:38:19,131 --> 00:38:24,092 And sure enough Mr. King emerged from the motel room. 678 00:38:24,094 --> 00:38:28,305 And, uh, went straight into the passenger side of the van. 679 00:38:29,474 --> 00:38:31,850 I got out of the police unit, 680 00:38:31,852 --> 00:38:33,768 opened the passenger side of the van 681 00:38:33,770 --> 00:38:38,231 and I advised Mr. King that was under arrest for assault 682 00:38:46,074 --> 00:38:49,951 [Carol] Detective Ridgeway phoned me, 683 00:38:49,995 --> 00:38:54,080 he said, "Hi, Carol. We got him." 684 00:38:54,082 --> 00:38:56,124 "You did?" [laughs] 685 00:38:57,461 --> 00:38:58,793 [John] I felt elated. 686 00:38:59,546 --> 00:39:02,672 This was a 16-month investigation 687 00:39:02,674 --> 00:39:04,924 and now we've come to this. 688 00:39:04,926 --> 00:39:06,259 That was a great feeling. 689 00:39:11,808 --> 00:39:14,059 [Carol] There was a plea bargain. 690 00:39:14,936 --> 00:39:17,479 The crown attorney felt 691 00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:19,356 if we accepted it, 692 00:39:19,358 --> 00:39:21,316 Fred would get some jail time. 693 00:39:22,486 --> 00:39:25,737 Our witnesses were escapees 694 00:39:25,739 --> 00:39:27,405 They had their fears. 695 00:39:27,407 --> 00:39:31,159 We were afraid we were gonna lose them. 696 00:39:31,161 --> 00:39:35,330 The advice was that we shoul accept the plea bargain. 697 00:39:36,291 --> 00:39:38,375 So we did. 698 00:39:38,410 --> 00:39:42,003 [narrator] Prosecutors decide to drop the sexual offence charges. 699 00:39:42,047 --> 00:39:44,714 Fred King pleads to nine counts of assault. 700 00:39:44,791 --> 00:39:47,634 And on September 14, 2016, 701 00:39:47,710 --> 00:39:50,637 he is sentenced to 18 months in prison. 702 00:39:51,973 --> 00:39:55,475 When I heard Fred was actually going to jail, 703 00:39:55,477 --> 00:39:58,978 I rejoiced. I was happy. 704 00:39:58,980 --> 00:40:01,064 But not totally satisfied. 705 00:40:02,275 --> 00:40:05,068 He received 18 months, 706 00:40:05,070 --> 00:40:08,822 but he only had to serve 12 months in jail 707 00:40:08,898 --> 00:40:11,366 and go on his merry way. 708 00:40:11,410 --> 00:40:13,993 I think Fred is still running his cult 709 00:40:13,995 --> 00:40:17,997 because, remember, this is God's will. 710 00:40:19,709 --> 00:40:21,918 [Daphne] Neither Fred, nor Stan, 711 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,003 was ever charged with polygamy. 712 00:40:24,881 --> 00:40:28,508 There's only been two cases in Canada 713 00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:30,552 in the last 100 years 714 00:40:30,554 --> 00:40:32,011 where polygamy has been charged 715 00:40:32,013 --> 00:40:34,848 and people have been convicted. 716 00:40:34,924 --> 00:40:37,100 [Tamming] Is justice done in a criminal court sense? 717 00:40:37,177 --> 00:40:38,660 I don't know. 718 00:40:41,231 --> 00:40:44,232 What we hand out for sentences for some of this stuff 719 00:40:44,276 --> 00:40:45,859 is pretty light. 720 00:40:45,861 --> 00:40:48,194 Was justice done in the civil court? 721 00:40:48,196 --> 00:40:50,780 We inflicted a lot of financial pain on him. 722 00:40:50,782 --> 00:40:52,699 I hope it was sufficient. 723 00:41:00,083 --> 00:41:03,960 [Carol] I've been able to he other escapees as well. 724 00:41:06,339 --> 00:41:11,050 We were able to help five others sue. 725 00:41:11,845 --> 00:41:14,679 And Fred was hit pretty hard. 726 00:41:14,756 --> 00:41:20,810 Still, I'm hoping to bring attention to polygamy 727 00:41:20,887 --> 00:41:23,813 will help the whole situatio 728 00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:28,526 Polygamy is against the law. 729 00:41:28,528 --> 00:41:31,738 And it needs to be enforced. 730 00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:34,949 [Daphne] I think the generosity of Carol's spiri 731 00:41:34,951 --> 00:41:38,453 in terms of being able to share her story 732 00:41:38,497 --> 00:41:42,123 and to not just be a victim. 733 00:41:42,167 --> 00:41:45,710 She is a victim but she's so much more than that 734 00:41:45,712 --> 00:41:47,086 And that's inspiring.