Previously on "The Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills"...
So the first bachelor is bachelor S.
Loves kids, loves to travel.
- I just need to-- - Oh, my God.
She's zooming in on his privates.
I like Dorit, but I just feel like when we talk,
we're not understanding each other.
I think for someone who talks so much,
she doesn't listen.
I do believe--
I'm going to get emotional--
life is just too short to fight.
If Kathy and I have an argument,
instead of it being just between us,
all of a sudden, it's like, OK,
then I'm cut off from everybody.
I was so----ing nice to you.
- OK. - And you were a bitch to me.
- OK. - And you know it.
I do? OK.
Go watch the show.
Oh.
This is quite the spread.
Should we eat? Are you guys hungry?
I'm hearing about this fabulous night you guys had.
You made out with your driver.
Oh, my God.
- OK? - OK.
You're saying it to embarrass her,
and that's not OK.
We are having a good time, you guys!
If you have to say it like that,
we're not having a good time.
I'm saying that because you just attacked me.
Just for the record, I didn't attack you.
We were having a conversation.
- What's a good word? - I don't know
what's a good word... - What's a better word?
But I feel like, for you and your privilege, I can't.
If you don't like me, Garcelle,
stop pretending that you do.
Did you clear up the thing with Erika?
No, we haven't. No.
- Oh, you haven't? - No.
No, we haven't, pot stirrer.
- OK. - That's not cool.
I am going to go see my husband,
who I've not seen in a week.
- Are you leaving? - I am.
Hey, give me a hug before you go.
OK. Thank you.
I am so ready to go home.
So what are you upset about?
First of all, to insinuate that my daughters,
at 14 years old, would have had a threesome,
I think, is beyond, beyond inappropriate.
You're shaking your head. - No.
Yeah, I'm shaking my head,
because that's not what it was about.
Children these days, if they have a phone,
have access to everything.
Of course they know about sex.
This was about my kids, though.
OK, your oldest daughter is on OnlyFans.
She doesn't know?
That is a----ing low blow,
to bring up my daughter's OnlyFans right now.
Why is--what did you think I was going to do?
Come in here and not mention the OnlyFans,
after you called me a bitch and a ?
Did you really think I was going to play nice with you?
Did you really think I was going to come in here and be,
what, above it all?
You are a mean woman.
- You asked for it. - No, I did not.
Well, then you shouldn't have come up into her house
acting like a----ing bitch, and then I wouldn't be here.
Well, you shouldn't have acted like a----ing bitch.
What, four years ago, when nobody remembers?
I think it's great.
I just want to know, who's more profitable?
You or Sami?
You're unbelievable.
I am.
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Well, apparently, Lent is over.
I gave up fighting with y'all for Lent, as a good Catholic.
Like, that didn't last long.
I did not want to fight, OK?
- Neither did I. - What do you want from her?
I wanted to ask what I did to you
for you to do what you did about my kids, and--
It has nothing to do with your kid.
Do you remember, at your barbecue...
- Yep. - There was a table of us
around a table of the kids,
and we were all talking about threesome,
sexual stuff, whatever.
Well, not all of us.
Hold on.
You just talked about your husband's big dick
five minutes before.
I did not talk about it at a dinner with my kids
at the next table, Erika.
I was at that party, people.
I was there.
He still has a big penis and big muscles.
It's all good.
Denise, you got some 'splainin' to do.
Denise, I'm right. Anyway, my point is this--
- No, you're not right. - I am right.
No, you're not.
100%, I know I'm right.
Uh, I think you're wrong.
OK, great. I'm right.
My point is this. - No, you're not.
We were all speaking about these things.
All of a sudden, you single me out,
take me to coffee and talk about,
"Well, you know, my children"...
I went to lunch yesterday with Sami,
my oldest daughter, and she overheard some things.
I'm sure that they did.
So she mentioned threesome.
Well, I apologize.
You know, because I have, like, the nastiest mouth ever.
I don't have the cleanest mouth either.
I apologized at Sasquatch Coffee.
I said, do you know what? I'm very sorry.
I wouldn't have done that. - You brought it up.
I didn't bring it up. You did.
Listen, Denise. I have nothing left for you.
You can think however you want of me.
You can feel however you want.
I have nothing left to say.
I didn't want this fight.
Yeah, you did.
You needed it to get off of all the other sh--
going on in your life.
- Absolutely not. - Absolutely.
That's what you do. You deflect.
Denise.
Erika, Erika, stop being so condescending.
Denise, we haven't deflected anything about my life
the last few years.
Absolutely not. There's been no deflecting.
Really?
And you're the one that claims you didn't know
$20 million was deposited in your----ing account?
Oh, sh--.
- It wasn't, actually. - Oh, really?
And the government's proven that.
So you're a little late. - Oh. OK. Oh, well.
It was so nice.
I'm sorry, I'm going to excuse myself.
Excuse yourself.
Bye, honey. Good to see you.
You, too. And I love you. Bye.
- Get home safe. - Yeah, thank you.
You hit below the belt. You do.
Oh, Denise. off. I've had it.
You know what? You had your chance a week ago.
You failed. You failed again tonight.
And that's it.
Conversation over. Bye.
Don't come for me when you're on OnlyFans for $7.
I mean, I do wonder what she makes, though.
I mean, hopefully, it's good.
Really, it should be, the children
and families are off-limits, you know?
I mean, it should be between all of us.
Well, when it goes with her family...
Well, why didn't you say that to her
when she just said that? - I know.
Why don't you step in and say sh--?
Why didn't you say that
when she was sitting right next to you?
I was letting you guys talk it out.
Why didn't anybody stand up for me the other night?
Why didn't anybody say, "That's wrong to do,"
and to say that-- - About what?
About the ring, and that Mau must've
bought that for me if he cheated.
Why didn't anyone stand up for me then?
What's with the new band?
I thought it was a makeup band.
A makeup band? What does that mean?
When your husband messes up and you get a gift.
So what you're saying is that my husband cheated on me.
Where the has everybody been when I've needed them?
Are you kidding me?
If you want to play "every man for themself" game,
then we're going to play it across the board.
Not one person said, "That is so weird to sit there
"and say, 'Oh, she has a new piece of jewelry.
Must be that her husband bought it because he cheated.'"
That's not cool, guys.
That's her family. That's her husband.
Her kids are upstairs. - I never said he cheated.
Nobody said a----ing thing.
So guess what? everybody.
I'm sorry. You guys----ing figure it out.
I didn't defend Kyle when Sutton was questioning
about her marriage, because I, too,
am curious about Kyle's marriage.
I'm done. - Well, OK.
Then I'm just gonna talk to-- y'all are good.
I'm good.
With the ring switching and working out so much,
like, it seems like a lifestyle change.
It's weird to me. I don't know.
Good night, everybody. Good night, good night,
good night, good night, good night.
- Oh, wait, I came with you. - Oh, yeah.
Then you want to come, or are you--
both: I came with you. - Bye, Denise.
Bye, everyone.
Maybe I'll do Taco Tuesday next week.
I really thought Erika had changed.
Nice to meet you. Bye, sweetie.
And seeing her talk like this,
it's just the old Erika coming back.
You're a lovely hostess.
Sorry I ruined your dinner.
- Good night, ladies. - Bye.
You cannot say stuff like that.
You cannot attack people's kids.
It's too far.
Wow.
That was super fun.
- You're welcome. Bye. - You're welcome.
- Bye. - Bye, honey.
Hey, Sutton. Wait, hey, Sutton.
I will kill you.
Don't be pulling over.
She may jump on that front seat.
Don't you worry about it, Colleen!
- Bye! - Don't you worry about it!
Bye!
Coming up...
Oh, I hear a girl's voice.
Let me guess. Ashlyn?
- Hi. - Hi.
What are y'all doing in the bed?
We're watching a movie.
♪ I want to see what you're made of ♪
♪ Pop off, make it rain on me, love ♪
Hello? Hello.
You little people aren't getting fed.
Just the big fish.
What have you little people done to him?
What'd y'all do?
OK.
I sound like a crazy person.
♪ I wanna see what you're made of ♪
♪ Pop off, make it rain on me, love ♪
Hi.
Are you waiting for us?
Hi, girls. - Hi, babies.
If it's not too complicated, I can cook.
Like, don't ask me to do lasagna right now.
You know what?
What do I look like, Wolfgang Puck?
Are you going to make the chicken?
You get what you get. Love you.
Mi mama.
Mi... mijo.
Oh, I hear a girl's voice.
Let me guess.
Ashlyn?
- Hi. - Hi.
What are y'all doing in the bed?
Uh-huh. Where's your father?
OK.
All right, have fun.
Not too much fun. Not too much fun.
- Bye. - Bye.
What were they doing in the bed?
I don't like it.
♪ Yeah, it feels good
Phoenix, should I wear
these Chanel hoops or my studs?
Diamond studs?
Diamond studs, all the way.
I think she's here.
Oh, you look so cute!
Thank you. Hey, princess, how are you?
- Good. - Nice to see you.
You're growing up so fast.
- She is. Hi, honey. - Nice to see you.
Come on in. We're going to go outside.
She's going to get us drinks if we want drinks.
May I have a Coke, like your mom?
I just knew it! A regular Coke.
Did you know it?
Regular Coke, not Diet Coke.
Mama just told me.
The other day, she says to me,
"Mama, I have got such a great model walk."
- She is a performer, this one. - She really is.
Phoenix, why don't you go get the Coca-Cola, baby, for Erika?
And then bring it back with your model walk.
Thank you so much, my lovebug.
- Thanks, Phoenix. - You're welcome.
So what's going on?
What happened after I left?
- Girl... - Oh, my goodness.
You know, the Denise of it all.
Oh, God, Denise. What was she saying?
She was, you know, "What you did to my daughters,
"and what you did to my--
you know, what you said about my children."
I was like, you're mad at me for something four years ago?
"You know what it is."
Like, no, I don't.
And then, you know, it got
to where, like, I said, you know--
I just said, well, listen, who makes more money on OnlyFans?
You or your daughter?
Oh, my God.
I'd had it. I don't want to do this.
You wanted this fight. You picked this fight.
So here it is.
And now, "Oh, my God, you're evil."
Really?
You're dumb.
There she is.
Coming down the catwalk, Ms. Phoenix.
I'm not doing a catwalk!
Did you bring snacks?
Yeah, they're from Passover.
What a beautiful little hostess.
- Love you. - Bye.
Bye, baby girl.
This is yummy.
Let me ask you this, because I walked in at the end.
What were you and Garcelle talking about
that you guys got so heated over?
- Hi. - Hi.
How are you?
I was really messed up after that.
I cried to sleep,
and I woke up, and I wasn't better.
I mean, the word, "attack"?
I would hope somebody who's in my group
would know better than to use certain words
or say certain things.
I didn't lunge at her.
I didn't grab her.
I didn't do anything that's considered attacking.
Right?
She just doesn't get me.
She doesn't know my world.
She doesn't care to know.
She's in her world, in her bubble.
And, uh...
there's rainbows and unicorns everywhere.
Aggressive-- yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Ay-yi-yi.
I just--
I feel like I need to have a few days, you know,
when you need to kind of process everything.
And--
When I used the word "attack,"
I did not mean to have any type of connotation
that would trigger or offend Garcelle.
Now, I just feel like I have to get a grasp
on how best to approach it.
Don't worry about that.
I love that you went after the privilege.
I feel like, for you and your privilege, I can't.
I think she lives in a bubble.
Agree.
I feel like over the last few years,
we've made steps forward,
and then I felt blindsided again.
I don't think Dorit is a malicious person.
When Dorit knows better, she does better.
You know, she just-- I don't believe she knew,
and now, I'm sure she knows,
and I'm sure she will never do that again.
And I'm sure that she feels terrible,
because I know Dorit's heart.
You got to talk to her.
Coming up...
I'm only here because I love you.
- I know. - And I love her,
and I want this to work.
And what if I don't want that relationship?
I got to meet with the matchmaker.
I have a really hard time with her name.
Starts with an A. It's not Alyssa.
Why can't I remember this poor woman's name?
Ooh.
Ah!
Hello, Sutton! - Look how pretty you look.
Beauty, we're in the same color.
Did we coordinate? - Oh, my--we keep doing that!
I love the pink.
Well, we're both in pink, so that's good.
Here, here, have a seat right here.
Perfect.
So, Ms. Sutton... - Oh, God.
Our belle of the ball.
My report card.
Oh, my gosh.
OK, before we go into your date feedback,
Sal had really good feedback.
So tell me.
How did it go?
It started off slowly.
But you know, it loosened up. - Yeah. Yeah.
And we talked about his mother.
OK.
I get back every two months to see Mom.
I'll tell you my favorite mom story.
My little mother...
I was just like, Mom--Mama--
wow, Mom.
My mother drives me crazy.
I'll read you his feedback. It's so cute. Are you ready?
Generally, he had a great time, but I'm going to go through...
- Oh, God. - The specifics.
I need to lie down.
No, you're going to do great.
"What are some positive qualities about my match?
She sounds like a great mom."
Aww!
This is the worst thing I've ever done in my life.
I'm dying.
I'm literally dying.
OK.
"Did I feel captivated, bored, or something in between?"
What did he say? Captivated.
OK, we're almost done. We're almost done.
"Did they make me laugh? No.
"She didn't come across as an individual
who makes a lot of jokes."
Well, I didn't see the funny side of Sal.
OK, OK, OK.
Just having read Sal's feedback,
my guess would be that he probably thought
you were not into him.
So I want to work on giving indicators of interest
to the next men that you are going to meet.
Step one, are you comfortable giving a compliment?
We want to break these patterns.
- What would be a compliment? - So even saying, like, wow--
- "I like your belt." - Yeah, like, I love your belt.
No! That is the worst one!
- You have a great belt! - What are you talking about?
What's wrong with that?
Because it is close to the genitalia area.
- It's OK. - No!
Men are flattered by anything.
You could tell them that you like their ears,
and they would probably be flattered.
Men are like big babies that walk around the Earth.
Oh, see, now, I'm never going to get a date,
because I just said that.
Let's get to the second date. - I love it. I love it.
So based on all the feedback from last time,
I have a client.
This is bachelor S.
He's VP of sales.
He's 6'2".
- He's cute. - Yeah. I know.
I don't know what VP of sales is.
That always, like--those always kind of freak me out,
those kind of jobs, but--
It's a job.
Like, you know, it's like a business.
He's a businessman.
I could easily set you up with the billionaires.
They're insane.
That's not what you need.
I know that people around you are saying
you need a wealthy man. - Alessandra, you just--
leave that to yourself.
You don't know what I need.
A billionaire could suit me just fine.
OK.
You're going to have an amazing time.
Uh-huh, OK.
Oh, my God. You know what?
I'm gonna do apple and peanut butter.
♪ How many times
Ow! Sh--.
♪ Do we gotta fight?
♪ I'm saying the same things, babe ♪
♪ But you're pulling those same strings lately ♪
Oh, she locked me out?
Um, it's just your sister.
I know it's just my sister.
I thought this would be open.
Well, I know. I thought you locked me out.
Oh!
Hi. You look cute.
So colorful.
Your hair looks great.
What's with the bird?
It's so cute.
Oh.
This is a--
- This necklace-- - Diamond gold hummingbird.
When my mom passed away, I started having
a lot of weird incidents with hummingbirds.
Here, you can have it. - No!
- No, I want you to. - Why? Why?
Because when I bought it, I wanted--
I was like, I should get this for Kathy and Kim too.
When Kim and I had our big fight
in the back of the limo...
You stole my goddamn house!
You better----ing take that back right now.
You better----ing... - Stop! Stop!
Right now.
The next day, I woke up,
and I was walking into the kitchen
of my old house,
and there was a hummingbird laying on the floor.
It looks great on you.
And I looked at this hummingbird,
and I started crying.
And I was like, "Mom, what do I do?"
And I looked up, and Marta, who works for me, was like,
"Oh, Kyle's talking to the birds again."
What else is happening?
So are you getting excited about Whitney's wedding?
I am. I'm so excited.
I think I look at her and Luke, and--
- They're the cutest couple. - They're so cute.
I just know when she's with him...
You don't have to worry.
I know she's safe.
Are you bringing anybody to the wedding?
To which wedding? What does that mean?
You're coming to Whitney's wedding, right?
I think that what I'm saying is,
I don't want everybody, anybody,
coming there that isn't in a good place with somebody.
Or at least if they're not in a great place...
I would always be--
I mean, obviously, I haven't seen Kathy--
well, I actually saw her at the Elton John Oscar party.
But I would always be polite, always be nice.
I don't think it's right to overlook
and not share what bothered you about it.
I'm not hiding.
Do you think you were wrong in any way?
Do you know--you don't know everything, right?
I know--I don't know--
OK, so let's just talk about how we fix it then,
since you don't know all the backstory.
We'll talk about that another time if you want.
When Kathy came to my house that day to apologize
because of what happened in Aspen...
You know, that night, you were in a mood.
You were seeing red.
You were screaming at me in front of everybody,
and it really hurt me and embarrassed me.
I'm very sorry.
But I'm mostly sorry for--
What you said back at the house?
Yeah.
I really wanted to accept the apology
and be able to move on.
But it was the behavior after...
Why are you upset with me right now because I got upset?
Just say it.
Because you're acting like a martyr, like it's just you.
That really told me she wasn't really sorry.
I'm only here because I love you.
- I know. - And I love her,
and I want this to work.
This wedding's coming up and then Farrah's and--
And what if I don't want that relationship?
I miss my family.
I miss our lunches. I miss our barbecues.
I miss our fun together as a family.
It's been a long time since we have that--
Very long. And two, this wedding's
coming up and then Farrah's, and I just--
And what if I don't want that relationship?
I mean, obviously, if Kathy did take accountability
and reached out to me and was genuine
and wanted to repair our relationship,
I would 100% be open to that.
I'm just not willing to be mistreated.
She can't have a conversation like this.
She gets so mean.
I really can't handle the meanness,
like, the way she talks.
You came up, and you didn't say,
"This guy just hurt my feelings.
I'm so embarrassed." You said, "We are out of here."
Everybody saw. - I know.
And you looked at me like, "You----ing--now."
And I was like, hold on a minute, Kathy.
First of all, I'm am adult. - I'm not proud of that.
You can't talk to me like that.
I don't like that.
It freaked me out when I was little.
I don't like that kind of thing.
- I don't like it either. - It gives me--
I don't know what.
I just can't--yeah.
I can't have someone be that mean and talk like that.
If she wants to have a conversation, I could do it,
but it's not about a conversation with her.
I'm somebody who doesn't
do well with chaos around me.
You know, when I was growing up,
it felt like there was chaos and, you know,
a lot of big personalities.
And, you know, my mom was great,
but she had a temper.
She had a very fiery Irish Aries temper.
I just don't do well with that.
That's why in my home, it's very peaceful and calm.
You don't hear fighting or yelling in my home, ever.
If you don't even try, if you don't,
then you just go the rest of your life and never know.
Well, why doesn't she even try,
when she's the one who's created this whole disaster?
But that's why I'm here.
I don't know that either one of you want to try,
and I don't know that either one of you don't want to try.
But I think it's so silly.
And I'll tell you one thing.
Mom never wanted this kind of stuff.
- No. - She was all about
us sticking together.
It was her racehorses, her kids.
We were all-- and we stick together.
Friends come and go, and people come and go,
but family stays.
And that was Mom.
And I understand her more now than I ever did.
I did not-- certain things, I held.
I was angry.
I was resentful for certain things with Mom.
And then, I don't know, after all the work,
I was like, oh, my gosh.
It's like, I know why she did that.
I'm not angry.
I love her.
She gave up her whole life for us.
I think, for me, you know, the main thing--
what?
I know you love Mom.
It's OK that you're angry.
I was.
And I don't think she knew.
Do you think she knew I was upset?
Like, I don't like--
You're trying to set your boundary for yourself,
because you don't want to be walked on.
I get it.
So if you don't want to say to her,
"I love you, I want this friendship,
I want this sister, but"--
I'm confused. Does she want to do this?
I think she does. Yes. I said, "Would you?"
And she said, "Well, what does Kyle say?"
It can't be like that, you guys.
You both have to say do you want this or not.
So you guys think about what's best for you.
Yeah.
How's the haroset coming along?
She's doing the haroset. I'm making matzo balls.
Max, Max, Max, I'm doing this.
- Wait, let me give you-- - This is my job.
Hold. Hold. Hold.
We're not going to fight with knives.
OK. So how many things we got here?
- It's like wasabi. - Two, three, four.
Oh, you're going to sit here? Where am I going to sit?
Here? OK.
You know what this is called, kids?
What is this called? - Ceremony.
- It's called the seder. - Yes.
And do you know the significance of this?
When the Jewish slaves were running away,
right, from Egypt... - Correct.
They couldn't wait for the bread to arise.
- Not arise. - Rise.
That's what happened to Jesus later.
Oh, yeah.
Chinese culture and Jewish culture is very similar.
We prioritize family, getting together,
traditions, holidays.
And so our marriage
that melded our cultures, very easy.
Our families were super into it,
and we love to celebrate each other's religions and culture.
Can we have Ben and Jerry's?
You can pick a dessert or you can pick TV.
- TV. - OK, bye.
Bye.
See ya, wouldn't want to be ya.
I'm going upstairs.
Zoe is a tornado tonight.
Yeah. Cheers.
So Taco Tuesday.
They keep saying to me, like, you know, "You don't engage.
You're not speaking up."
You know, "You're so quiet."
You need to speak up in this group.
Why do I have to get to a point to, like, scream?
Why can't I speak with a soft voice...
You don't have to do anything.
Who told you to scream? - And people listen?
This group wants me to scream
all the----ing time!
I think you have a lot of opinions.
I think you have a lot of very strong opinions.
- I do. - And I think that you
just need to share that with them.
You know, on the other side of just being called out
for that, which is getting very annoying,
is, like, the girls are all so skinny now.
Are you the incredible shrinking woman?
- You're so skinny. - No, are you?
- Oh, my God. - So skinny.
Sometimes, I can't focus.
Like, I'm comparing all of their--
looking at everyone's bodies, like, what does mine
look like compared to theirs?
That's what I do all the time. - Right.
So then I don't know what they're saying.
- Yeah. - It's not like I don't want
to pay attention.
LA is a city that is obsessed with beauty and bodies.
I think you're too self-conscious.
I work very hard
to feel comfortable in groups that I'm in,
and I finally started to feel
more myself and relaxed.
And now, I'm back to having this severe distraction,
which triggers me in a way
that no one in this group could possibly understand.
And it's very hard for me.
It's affecting me a lot.
I'm distracted because I'm so self-conscious.
Yeah. Yes.
But I'm--I'm working on that.
Yeah. All right.
So Jeff's coming.
That's so amazing.
I completely forgot he was coming back.
I know. I'm tracking him, his life.
OK. And?
I haven't really talked to him.
OK. Did they--they got--
he saw her. - Yeah.
I totally think my brother still resents me
for being part of his breakup.
Crystal is feeling some regret.
No, I just felt-- you know how I feel.
I feel bad.
Thank you.
You know, Jeff has always been my big brother.
And then, I don't know when it was--
when we got married, when we had kids,
when my dad got sick.
It shifted to where I suddenly was, like,
not even like a big sister, like a mom.
I was like, I just was like my mom.
Like, I just treated him like my son.
It comes from a good place, but it's also like--
I'm sure that I put pressure on him that I shouldn't have.
I've been too controlling of my brother
and too controlling of what I want for him.
So I really need to, like, check myself
and really, like, take a step back
and let him be.
Coming up...
I like to karaoke.
Stop it. You do?
- Yeah. - Let me see your list.
What is--I don't know this song, "Nookie."
♪ I'm in the mood
♪ For something real, something mine only ♪
See, and there's just a big old puddle right here.
I swear to the good Lord up above,
this is God telling me something.
Hi.
It's so dangerous out here.
How are you? - Hi, Sutton. I'm Steve.
- I'm Sutton. - Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you, Steve. - I've heard so much about you.
- Gosh, I'm just-- - Watch out. It's slippery.
I know. I'm trying not to die.
Don't die. Don't die.
- I'll try. - Please. We just got here.
- Yeah. - Here, have a seat.
- Thank you. - Would you like
something to drink, or--
Well, let me sit down real quick.
OK.
I'm putting some more trust in Alessandra.
I'm going to be delightful and cheery.
OK, good. - You look great, by the way.
- Oh, thank you. So do you. - I like that dress.
- I like your blazer. - Yeah, OK, cool.
Give more compliments. They seem to like that.
I always like a silver head of hair.
What do men want to hear? I don't know.
Obviously, I'm not good at this.
Did you guys have any questions?
- I don't care. - You don't care?
- I just don't eat meat. - How about we get the, uh--
I just don't eat meat or chicken.
Other than that-- - So anything--
- Or spicy food. - OK.
Or a lot of other things.
- Salmon? - Absolutely.
- We're just gonna split it. - Fantastic.
- All right. Thank you. - Absolutely.
- Can I ask you a question? - Yeah, sure.
So what do you look for in a potential partner?
Like, what are some of the qualities,
besides being, like, dashingly handsome
or something like that?
- What is it? - You say that, because--
- You know, an outgoing person. - OK.
That can kind of keep up with me,
that likes to travel, likes to laugh.
I think I saw you play tennis, right?
- I do. - Yeah.
- Do you listen to podcasts? - I like true crime.
Like, I like listening to true crime.
Yes, me too.
I like the murder mystery ones.
- I played a dead guy. - You did?
- Yeah. - You just laid there?
I mean, there's a lot more to it than that.
You have to not breathe.
I like to karaoke.
- I'm a huge karaoke-er. - Get out of here.
I have, like, a list of, like,
300 songs in my phone right now.
- Stop it, you do? - Yeah.
Let me see your list.
OK, I may have had it wrong about Alessandra.
She's a little quirky
and told me to do some weird things.
However, I might be trusting the process right now,
because Steve could be a winner here.
I don't know the song "Nookie."
Folks, the mustard-glazed salmon.
Oh, thank you.
Enjoy.
So that's kind of cool.
Are you liking the salmon?
- Yeah. - OK. All right.
I'd like to talk to you more after this somehow.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
- Yeah? - Yeah.
We talked, like, the whole time.
Yeah, I'm a talker.
I'm a listener.
Well, that's good.
There you go.
So can I have your number? - Yes.
I have now broken the one-date-wonder curse.
All right.
I just called you so you have my number.
Oh, you did? Oh.
To see if I gave you the real number.
Yeah, no, it didn't buzz, so--
or ring.
Oh. My phone's right here.
Yes, you did.
Thank you.
Hi, how are you? - Love this outfit.
Aww!
Oh, this is lovely.
- Hi. - Hi, how are you?
Thank you. Thank you.
- Hello, how are we doing? - Hello. How are you?
- Great. - Good.
Welcome to the Oaks at Lakeside.
Can I get you anything besides water to start?
Any cocktails or anything? - Just water for me.
- Thank you. - Thank you so much.
It's a little awkward. - I know.
Do you want to look at the menu?
No.
I mean, yeah, sure, let's do that.
Sure.
OK.
Yeah? What are you having?
I think I'm going to do the Greek salad.
Oh, OK. That's good.
To be honest with you, the food is secondary
to me right now. - Yeah.
- So... - Yeah.
I want to leave the floor to you, because--
I appreciate that.
You know, you've said that you don't feel like I hear you,
and I really want to make sure that not only I do,
but you feel like I do.
I appreciate that.
So I would like to go first.
We're on the-- both on the same page.
Perfect, perfect, perfect.
The other night was tough on me.
How are we doing so far?
Sorry.
We're good. Why don't we order? Yeah.
Do you have any questions about anything?
I think I'll just do the Greek salad.
- Sure. - Gnocchi pesto.
- Sure. - Could I also get some tea?
- Yeah. - Like, what do you have?
Peppermint or-- - We have hibiscus.
We have, like, dandelion--
- I'll do the hibiscus. - Hibiscus? Sure.
- Thank you. - You have dandelion?
- You want to do that? - Please. Thank you.
Thank you.
So the other night, the word "attack"
just hit me in the wrong-- in the wrong place.
You just attacked me for it.
I did not attack you. Calm down.
You and your privilege, I can't.
What does that mean?
It means you're white, and she--
and the words are different.
They have different connotations.
They have different meanings.
OK.
There's certain words, when you point them at me,
it has a complete different impact.
You have to know who you're dealing with.
There are three words you don't say to Black women.
You don't say "aggressive," you don't say "attack,"
and you don't say "angry."
Because that's labeling us.
So I'm not here to educate you.
That's not my job.
I don't have the bandwidth to do it.
But I feel like you need to be aware of who you're talking to
and when you're talking to them and what you say.
When we use the word, and you've heard it
hundreds of times in this group...
I have been on the receiving end
of what feels like being attacked.
You keep attacking my character.
I cannot get attacked in this group continuously, over--
I wasn't trying to attack you.
I was actually trying to help you.
I understand.
That's not the way it sounded.
- Towards me? - You know exactly--
you know exactly--
- Towards me? - What the intent is.
I don't know if it's ever been said to you.
I don't know. I didn't--
I didn't take notice, because that's exactly
what the other night was.
It was innocent. My intention.
I didn't--listen, if it's offended you in any way--
Oh, it has. That's why we're here.
That's why I reacted the way I reacted.
I mean, I was emotional for two days.
I went to bed crying. I woke up crying.
I drove to the beach, because I couldn't figure out
why I was so triggered by that.
But I was absolutely triggered by that.
Do you believe that I said that
with bad intention?
Yeah.
- You believe I said that to-- - Yeah.
Because why else would you say it?
Garcelle.
Why else would you say it?
Have you not heard other people use the word "attack"?
I'm talking about you and me, Dorit.
I know, but you're saying,
why would I say it, like it's unusual.
I feel like you're--there's--
there's something--
I want to listen to everything you have to say.
I also feel like I need to be able to defend myself.
So if you haven't finished,
I want you to get it all out.
But some of the things that you're saying right now,
they're not only--
they're not only wrong, but they're incredibly hurtful.
This is exactly why she gets under my skin.
She--she says she wants to hear.
She wants to understand.
But the minute I start talking, she's on the defense,
and she's not listening.
I feel like...
What I feel--
there's a pattern with you that I don't know
whether you're aware or not.
But I'm just going to be completely blunt.
It feels like an unconscious Karen behavior with you.
I'm just going to be completely blunt.
It feels like an unconscious Karen behavior with you.
This is a very, very serious, dangerous accusation.
It's hurtful.
And that accusation holds a lot of implications.
And I'm not feeling comfortable with this at all.
How so?
I feel like, two years ago,
we were talking about people of color.
We've had a lot of people that work for us
that are very multicultural.
I've had a lot of Black and Hispanic and Filipino
and, you know--
But are the brown people only help at your house?
No.
- OK. - No.
In fact, my mother's best friend is Black.
Awesome.
I just wanted to clarify that.
Has there been growth since the last time
you were like, people of color have worked for you?
I don't know why you keep raising this.
Because it feels to me
like there's something that you're--
- What does it feel like? - I don't know exactly.
- That I'm racist? - I'm not labeling you.
I'm not labeling-- - But there's implication here,
so I want to know-- - No. You know what?
If there's racist undertone, that's not my fault.
I'm not calling you anything.
Because if it's simply about me using a word
that triggered you, if that's what this is about,
then I'm apologizing.
But it sounds like there's something more.
I mean, you do realize I'm Jewish, Garcelle.
What does that have to do with anything?
Well, you reduced me to privilege that night.
- And-- - I was reduced to privilege.
You don't have a privileged life, Dorit?
We all have a privileged life.
So do you. - Yes. Right, but I--
We all are very privileged in this group.
But I know your intent. - You're a child of the world.
You speak four different languages.
Why don't-- why don't you understand
that being in my shoes is different
from being in your shoes?
I most certainly understand that.
And I've never suggested otherwise.
What I'm saying by that is, I would have thought that,
both being from marginalized communities,
that we would have some common ground,
far more than differences.
Because it does seem like you are trying to--
I'm not trying to do anything.
It doesn't feel that way.
Well, then that's on you.
Thank you so much.
Well, it definitely feels
like everything is on me right now.
OK.
Garcelle, to me, there's a little bit of a difference--
Why do you say my name so much?
- Because that's what I do. - OK.
- That's what I do. - OK.
That's what I do.
Like, I'm the only one here.
- That's what I do. - OK.
If that's something else that's going to trigger you...
No, it's not something else. I was just wondering.
Then I'll try very consciously not to.
- No, no. No. - But it's something that I--
I don't want you walking on eggshells.
But you're making me feel that way.
You are making me feel that way, Garcelle.
I'm telling you, you're making me feel that way.
There's something that--
you've just been getting under my skin.
Yeah.
And I think, with the things you say
and I think how you say them, and I think
the last straw was you saying that I attacked you.
I don't know how we're going to move forward,
but I'm going to try, because I don't hate you.
I just feel like I needed to say that
what happened the other day really triggered me,
and it really bothered me.
I'm very sorry that it triggered you and it hurt you.
And I mean that genuinely.
I would never want to hurt anyone intentionally.
Period. - I believe that.
I just think the words,
the choice of words was horrible.
Well, I appreciate you saying you believe that.
This was a learning lesson for me.
I was unaware.
And I know now I need to be more aware
of what I'm saying and who I'm saying it to.
OK. - We're going to be good.
We're going to be good.
Next time on "The Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills"...
To our amazing trip.
Welcome to Casa Locé.
No!
Yes!
Somebody take a picture!
Would you ever date a woman?
Would you?
Yeah.
Let's talk about sex.
- Ugh! - Oh, my God.
- Please, no! - Jax brought it up.
Let's talk about it.
There are elements I understand.
There are also elements that I don't consider are PTSD.
I consider they're more obnoxious.
I'm so anxious.
I don't know.
I really don't know if I can do it.
You got it.
Sutton. Her small esophagus.
There is a medical reason why this is going on.
- Uh-huh. I want to understand. - I'm done.
But a small esophagus is not the reason.
You can say that to a layperson,
but if you say that to someone in medicine, you look stupid.