Tonight "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills"
reunion concludes.
Is Kathy coming?
Kathy?
Oh.
Perfect, gorgeous.
Here she comes, the grand dame--
- Hello. - of Beverly Hills.
Sometimes we do say things a little bit out of anger.
And I am 100 times more sensitive than you.
[laughs]
Um, no.
Is there anything going on with Morgan?
It looked like you guys were girlfriends.
Um--
You are separated but still living under one roof.
Do you talk about divorce?
It's hard for us to say that word, I think.
Are there conversations about someone moving out?
When did things really start to change?
Is there an event?
Something happened where I did lose my trust.
Something that he did?
Erika, you said some women in this group fear Kathy.
Who do you think is most afraid of her?
- Are you OK? - Are you OK?
- What's wrong? - What's wrong?
- Are you OK? - What?
Lay down. Can she lay down?
- Oh, God. - Oh, God.
- You're making me nervous. - You're shaking.
You're shaking. - Can she lay down?
Oh, God.
Can we call somebody, please?
[dramatic music]
So Teddi commented on your drinking.
Yeah.
She said you carry vodka.
I carry it in my purse, yeah.
Yeah, was she doing your dirty work?
Absolutely not.
Well, you could have said, no, she doesn't, Teddi.
Listen, I did not say anything.
There's things I could have said.
And I did not. So how about that?
But it's the insinuation.
I didn't say that.
It's understanding your responsibility
in the insinuation.
You have got to understand this at some point, Kyle.
Kyle, you have been relentlessly mean to me.
- Where? - Oh.
Where?
As Denise would say, watch the show.
You have done mean jabs all season long.
- Oh, my god. - Yes, you have.
And where did it start?
And if you can't take responsibility for it--
Where did it start?
it's going to make me insane.
Why don't you learn to shut up sometimes and listen?
It was extremely hurtful at that dinner party
to sit there and be grilled about my marriage.
I didn't say anything about your marriage.
I was just asking questions.
All right, well, where do you two go from here?
That's the question.
I love Sutton.
I really do consider her my friend.
That's why it hurt me so much.
This may take some time.
But I don't see it's something that we can't fix.
We're going to be fine.
And I think we both know that in our hearts.
Yeah.
And I-- see, then I'll start getting a little teary,
because I miss her so much.
No, I-- I mean, I miss talking to her, too.
That's why I was so confused.
Yeah, well, I felt the same way.
I think I just wanted support from everybody
at that time instead of getting on the defense.
Well, maybe you should hug it out.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
If I can stand.
I love you.
- One more hug. - OK, OK, OK.
That's great. That's great.
All right, I'm going to leave it there.
We're going to take a break, and then we're going
to bring your friend out.
OK, what are we waiting on?
Is Kathy coming?
And now right at me right there.
Perfect.
Gorgeous.
Thank you.
We're standing by to mic Kathy?
Kathy is not mic'd.
And I sent you something on Instagram.
OK.
Well, I guess we should wrap it up then, guys.
Bye. [laughter]
Well, I'm really feeling like we need to go.
I haven't even cried.
Well, then we can't leave until you do.
[bleep]
You're about to.
Then it's-- oh, shut up.
You are about to.
Andy.
Was Kathy supposed to be a surprise?
Yes.
Oh.
[dramatic music]
OK.
Oh, gosh, this is hot.
I'm uncomfortable. - Can you stand?
Yep.
We're going to have you next to Crystal.
Oh, great.
Here she comes, everybody, the grand dame
of Beverly Hills.
Hello.
No, not Lisa Vanderpump.
Hi, baby.
[laughing]
Hello.
Hi!
I texted you back when I woke up, because I was--
- The time I went to sleep. - 4:00.
Hello, sparkly. How are you?
OK, OK, Kathy Hilton,
welcome back to the last place we thought
we would see again--
[laughter]
sitting next to your sister at the reunion stage.
Great to see you.
Thank you.
It's great to see all of you.
And I see that you are holding a crystal as well.
I brought an extra one for us to share.
Oh, that's nice.
So sweet.
Kathy, how does it feel to be back and be
back sitting next to Kyle?
It feels really good.
I believe things happen for a reason, and I'm here.
Of course, I wanted to see everybody,
and here to support Kyle.
I'm happy you're here.
Kathy, have you seen the show this season?
Oh, I watch all the clips.
- Oh, you watch all the clips. - All the clips, yes.
- OK. - On Instagram.
She watches all on the interweb.
- You know, like Instagram. - The
Interweb. [laughter]
OK, you didn't watch the show.
But you saw the clips. - No.
- OK. - I don't watch anybody's show.
But I actually watch "What Happens Live."
Oh, that's fun.
Yeah, I like that, because it goes by so quick.
Yes, it does.
[laughter]
OK.
I'm glad the two of you are doing better now.
But Kyle and Kathy's relationship
has been under the microscope since day one.
And just last season, Kathy appeared
to close the door on their relationship together.
But Kyle couldn't help but notice that some people here
continued to blow in whatever direction
Kathy and the wind from her box fan would take them.
Watch.
This past year, I had an issue
with my older sister Kathy.
That night, you were screaming at me in front of everybody.
And it really hurt me and embarrassed me.
If someone hurts me, I have to keep
them at arm's length to protect myself, blood included.
Why are you upset with me right now because I got upset?
Just say it.
Because you're acting like a martyr like it's just you.
What came out of that is we're not speaking now.
She gets so mean.
I really can't handle the meanness,
like the way she talks.
You didn't say, this guy just hurt my feelings;
I'm so embarrassed.
You said, we are out of here.
Everybody saw.
I know.
And you looked at me like, you [bleep]-- leaving now.
And I was like, Kathy, first of all--
I'm not proud of that.
as an adult, you can't talk to me like that.
Mom never wanted this kind of stuff.
No.
She was all about us sticking together.
Friends come and go, and people come and go, but family stays.
You're mad at me about the Kathy thing.
That hasn't even registered to me.
If she admits that she is angry with me
for being friends with Kathy,
that means she doesn't like Kathy.
This is a love triangle gone awry.
You can go [bleep] yourself, because you know the truth.
You've had your own situations with her.
And you don't want to speak up because you
don't have the balls.
Oh, I can tell everybody what Kathy did.
No, you can kiss ass in public.
Kathy did not like that I did not
stick up for her in the press.
So she called me, and she yelled at me.
And I told Kyle, I see what you've experienced.
Some women in this group fear Kathy,
because she holds the access to something they want.
She can lock you out of Beverly Hills
or lock you out of parties or lock
you out of social standing.
I don't really care if I get invited
to any of your Christmas parties
or if I'm not on your list.
How do you feel about us being friends with Kathy?
I would like to feel like you guys
aren't sitting around talking about everything.
No.
So I feel like you guys have your own relationship.
No, no.
I get it.
You want to be friends with Kathy.
Do I think it's because she has a lot of parties?
I do.
All right, we'll get to you two coming together.
But, Erika, you said some women in this group fear Kathy,
because she holds the access to something they want.
She can lock you out of Beverly Hills
or lock you out of parties.
Oh, God.
Lock you out of social groups.
Be careful.
[laughter]
No, I was-- actually I saw that,
and I played it several times.
[laughing] And I sent it to people.
Erika, who do you think is most afraid of her
in this group?
- She's Beverly Hills. - Yeah.
And she sets that standard.
And there are a lot of women.
You don't want to run crossways with this one.
Right.
- Whoo, whoa, whoa, whoa. - Are you OK?
Are you OK?
- What's wrong? - Are you OK?
What?
- This is making me nervous. - Yes.
- Oh, God. - What's wrong?
You're shaking.
Oh, god.
[dramatic music]
♪
Erika, you said some women in this group fear Kathy.
Who do you think is most afraid of her in this group?
- She's Beverly Hills. - Yeah.
And you don't want to run crossways with this one.
Right, all right, well--
- Whoo, whoa, whoa, whoa. - Are you OK?
- What?
- What happened? - Are you OK?
- What? - What's wrong?
- Are you OK? - What happened?
- Sorry, no, just got-- - You want some water?
- Oh, God. - Oh, gosh.
You're shaking.
Annemarie should take care of her.
- I don't want to lay down. - No, no, no, hold on.
She's not sick. - She's shaking.
Why don't you sit down?
I don't think she should be walking.
Yeah, lay down. Let's lay down.
Lay down. Lay down.
- Sit down. - It's nothing.
It's nothing.
No, I know, but you're shaking.
You're shaking. - I don't think this is good.
Oh my god, that's scary.
She was saying she was hot a lot.
A hot flash.
Sutton, you're 49 years old.
It's bound to happen.
I'm going to put this on your arm, OK?
You're shaking a little bit.
Do you feel dizzy or nauseous at all?
Well, I got a little scared.
You're OK. You're OK.
Your blood pressure is high.
Your pulse is high.
We should call 911 to come get her because she
has to go checked out anyways. - No.
I think that you should get checked out.
I don't think it's necessary that we call 911 for you.
Thank you.
We've got transport here that can take you out
gladly to a local urgent care or to a hospital
if you feel that that's necessary.
How have you been?
Good.
I love the holidays so much, and I felt like I
didn't get to enjoy it enough.
Is your tree still up?
Or you still have your stuff up?
I just took it down.
Wow.
Well, why don't we just get her to lay down?
I don't want to lay down.
And then we'll get them to get her.
You don't want to lay down? Well, you don't have to
lay down out here, but I just think maybe
you could lay down on your couch in your dressing room.
Well, I don't have steady feet.
- Can we get her slippers? - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes.
I'll be OK. I mean--
- You're OK to walk? - Yeah.
- Can someone walk with her? - I got her.
Her blood pressure is very high.
That's as high as mine was.
- That's scaring me. - You're OK.
- It's OK. - You're all good.
You were just being cautious.
You're going to be OK.
Sutton, you're going to be OK.
- You're going to be OK. - You're going to be OK.
I feel like she lost consciousness
for a hot second.
As you're walking, you feel a little better?
Yeah.
OK, you do look like you're shaking less.
You seem-- - Yeah, it's just--
well, I got scared. - Watch you step.
Shut up.
[laughing] Shut up.
But you're right.
Exactly.
What we can do is, we can sit you down for now.
But I really think that you need to go
get checked out somewhere. - OK.
- Do you want me to come? - OK.
I want to come.
Can I get something to eat?
- Absolutely. - Yes, yes.
OK.
Somebody open the door, please.
- I got it. - I got it.
- Thank you. - So we'll get you inside.
We'll close the door.
We'll have a little privacy, and I'll do
a further assessment, OK?
OK.
Just lay down. Here. Your hands are shaking.
Let me hold it. Let me hold it.
I'm OK.
I just ate a banana.
Eat another banana.
No. [chuckles]
She's shaking.
You're going to be OK. We got you.
- OK. - We got you, Sutton.
OK.
Everybody's PTSD and trauma and--
That's a reunion first.
Looked over, and she went like that.
I know. I saw the same thing.
- So, ladies.
Yes, yes, sir.
I know that we all want her to get better.
I think that the best thing for her
is for her to lay down and--
Yes, take a break for a minute.
Yes.
she'll be taken care of, yes.
And I just want to keep talking.
We'll get to you two coming together.
But I want to go back, though.
Erika, you said some women in this group fear Kathy.
Kyle's not afraid of anybody.
Not even you.
- Look, as an outsider-- - Definitely not me.
I'm the outsider looking in, right, because it's
not my social group.
Right, you don't care.
Let me say this.
You don't give two--
even when you were married and things were-- but
you don't care.
Yeah.
I see Kathy coming from the dance floor.
She says the DJ's an old [bleep] [bleep]
and walked off.
Anyone that knows me, knows I don't talk like that.
Kathy, and anyone that knows me, knows I'm not lying.
I don't know if that's a good thing or not.
Oh, no, but I mean--
I will say this.
She can pick up the phone and make things happen
in a very graceful way.
I totally agree with Erika.
Kathy is a powerful person.
She is Beverly Hills, exactly.
But do you think there's anybody that we know
that thinks like that?
I mean, can you see me-- - Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
I don't think they would admit to you.
I do think that. I'm saying that truthfully.
- But I definitely-- - People in this group?
Yeah.
So, Kathy, how did you feel leaving last year's reunion?
Did you think this was it for you and Kyle?
I mean--
Never, my relationship with my sister
is more important than any TV show ever.
I mean, Kyle, think about it.
Have we ever had a blow-up like that?
I mean, the press will say certain things.
Not to that degree, no.
If I had to count--
and I will hide my fingers--
in all of our life where we have had a fight--
because they make it like, oh, we had a fight,
we had a fight.
They're always fighting.
A big fight like that?
Three. - What did I have?
Absolutely did.
She did.
So, I mean, we're sisters.
That's going to happen.
Well, Kathy, it's no secret that Mauricio
starting the agency created tension between your families.
I have been approached to create our own company.
And it's so difficult for me to deal
with that because of family.
Here it is.
My sister and my brother-in-law is my family.
And I don't want them to be upset.
Mo even wrote in his book regarding Rick's company
that, "If they paid me what I deserved
"and showed me an inkling of professional love,
he would have stayed,
"But they didn't see it that way."
Those are all quotes.
When he left, he did call on a Thursday.
OK.
And Rick said, OK.
He said, when are you planning on leaving?
And he said on Friday.
And he said, you're family.
Just know opening your own business is tough.
The door is always open for you.
Just don't poach on my staff or my agents.
And did he?
A few.
And that put Kyle and I in kind of a funky--
Well, let me just say he, also--
And you and Mo in a bad spot, I would think.
Right, but let me say this.
And, Kyle, you do know this, because you--
I don't want to get into that stuff.
I really don't.
OK, but Rick did--
But we also had people that were under him in the Umansky
Group at Hilton & Hyland.
Right, yes.
So he had built his group within Hilton & Hyland.
OK.
I don't want to talk about business stuff like that.
No, I get that.
I want to go back to two more things
that we went through hell through.
I've been through enough.
I just got scared.
It's OK. You're going to be OK.
You scared me, too.
Have you ever had anything like this happen before?
- No. - Never?
Yeah, we have crackers. We're good, thanks.
Let me get another blood pressure
real fast while we wait.
You don't feel nauseous or anything, right?
- I feel a little nauseous. - OK.
I feel real sleepy.
OK, well, it seems like you're
having a lot more symptoms than I'm seeing at first.
OK.
[phone chimes]
Just want to let you know Sutton is OK,
but they're going to take her to the hospital out
of an abundance of caution.
And Garcelle is going with her to the hospital.
We are all praying for Sutton.
- Yes. - Yes.
Absolutely.
So I just want to grab Garcelle and Sutton's phones.
And then we've also got Merce Cunningham's ashes here.
Yeah, I think they're all here.
What?
Coming up--
When did things really start to change?
Is there an event?
Something happened where I did lose my trust.
I just want to grab Garcelle and Sutton's phones.
And then we've also got Merce Cunningham's ashes here.
Yeah, I think they're all here.
What?
- All of this. - He's in the purse again?
- He's in the purse again. - Are you kidding?
There you go.
- Are you [bleep]---- - Merce is in there?
- Yeah, Merce is here, yes. - Yeah.
I thought we set him free in Spain.
- She kept a-- - There's more.
She has a little more.
Who-- the ashes to the reunion.
I feel honored that Merce Cunningham is here.
Well, at least give her a seat.
Him.
[laughing]
[tense music]
You feel OK on your feet, Ms. Sutton?
- OK. - Love ya.
Love you.
Bye, Garcelle.
Want to take off your jacket?
So how did the two of you come
back together, Kathy and Kyle?
I mean, what happened?
Because we saw this season you were estranged.
Our niece Whitney got married.
So there was a shower. - Yes, Kim's daughter.
- Right. - OK.
So there was a shower.
So I saw Kathy and the girls for the first time there.
I'm sorry, it wasn't your fault.
It was not your fault. - Get the video.
Get the video.
What was that? - I got the video.
It was not your fault.
And then they all came to my house in Aspen
for a welcome dinner party.
OK.
And then it just sort of broke the ice.
And it was beautiful.
And then the next day--
It's so silly.
Oh.
[sobbing]
You missed her.
And so I felt so--
included.
included and happy.
Oh, that's great.
Wow. - Ohh.
That's really nice.
There's a Kleenex.
Kathy, on Bravo's "Hot Mic" podcast,
Kyle worried the things that she said on the show
could ruin your reconciliation with her.
I was very honest in the moment.
And now I'm stressed that, what did I say in the moments
when I thought we were done?
Because I don't want that to kick everything up and ruin
my relationship again.
So that scares me.
She warned me.
She did.
She said, I feel so bad.
We're in such a great place.
And sometimes we do say things a little bit out of anger.
And I am 100 times more sensitive than you.
[laughs] OK.
Do you agree?
Um, no.
You keep very--
I may come across like that sometimes, but--
That doesn't mean that you're not a sensitive person.
But you're very-- your vibe is strong.
Yours is very strong, too.
I don't think you realize how strong yours is.
I really feel that you love me very much.
I do love you very much.
I like to feel that--
I need you.
I want to be needed.
Oh.
I do need you.
And you've been really, really there for me
in an unbelievable way lately.
And it means a lot to me.
But I always would be.
And you always have for me.
Seeing you back together today,
how do you think your mom would feel?
Happy. I think my mom is here.
Yeah.
Our mom is here, sorry.
Kyle, while it's so encouraging to see you
and your sisters get back on track,
the same cannot be said for all the relationships
in your life.
Kyle and Mauricio always seemed like they were
rock solid and madly in love.
But this year, the public saw cracks begin
to form in their relationship.
And now a marriage and Kyle's future
are left hanging in the balance.
Oh. [sighing]
Thanks, Andy.
I'm sorry.
Watch.
Honey, we can see the Eiffel Tower so perfectly from here.
Mwah!
Like the lovers' bridge.
What should we write?
Kyle and Mauricio forever.
Perfect.
Psst. How much longer are you going to be?
Honey, I'm working.
Well, as soon as you can wrap up your--
Come back in--
golf schedule, let me know.
With the way my relationship is right now,
I'm not happy because of the lack of time together.
Hey.
Well, don't be kissing me like that.
[laughing]
I could kiss you however I want.
I don't want to wake up and be like, who are you?
What are we supposed to talk about now?
I told your mom you have a tattoo.
What is wrong with you?
But she meant the tattoo on me.
So then I said, maybe you don't.
I said, I don't know for sure.
Oh, this is what people talk about when
they go through a rough time.
Whatever.
I don't want to talk about that right now.
I don't want to talk about it.
In tabloids, Kyle and Mo are having
problems in their marriage.
OK.
Mauricio may be having an affair.
I usually see you and Mo together.
I felt like I needed a little freedom.
Then she's got a new band.
Like specifically away from your husband?
Is there something going on in your personal life
that you would like to share?
What's with the new wedding band?
This is what you're gossiping about?
And I thought it was a make-up band.
What you're saying is that my husband cheated on me.
Kyle does not want to address the elephant in the room.
You want my husband to have cheated
and bought me that band that he did not buy me?
Whoa, let's not do that.
Because he didn't.
I bought it myself.
Is there something going on in your marriage?
This is Morgan.
Morgan is 100% herself.
I honestly was just really taken by that.
I'm just glad it's you out there having an affair.
For once, it's me.
[tense music]
Breaking news, Kyle and Mauricio
have officially split.
Oh, my god.
It's in "People"?
Kyle was lying to us this whole time.
I think you're right.
It's a lot more than just a difficult year.
Complete strangers are like, you made us believe
in true love, and now it's all--
This is true love.
Everybody else's opinion can [bleep] off.
And if we can't work it out?
That's OK.
♪
The marriage that I had is gone.
♪
Honey, I'm home. [dog barking]
Chloe.
Well, one, two, three, make a wish.
Here we go.
Everybody hold real still.
Everybody smile at me, gorgeous.
There were things that happened
that made me lose my trust
that I wasn't able to...
recover from.
♪
We're a very strong family.
And we always will be.
Always will be.
It's tough to watch.
Oof.
At your final party last year,
we saw you and Mo on camera.
And everything seemed good.
When did things really start to change?
Is there an event that stands out as the beginning of what
you called your hard year?
Like with any marriage, there's issues that you have,
and they come up.
And you get busy.
And you've got kids.
My kids were little.
I'm working.
I'm being a mommy and doing all that.
And it gets put aside. And then will come up again.
And some of the issues never went away.
Or they were never really worked on.
And then something, like I said in my interview,
happened where I did lose my trust.
Something that he did?
[tense music]
♪
Coming up--
You've said, we're separated.
We're broken up. - Yeah.
So then when you see him partying it up
in Aspen with a bunch of women,
how are you handling that?
[sighs]
So, Kyle, when did things really start to change?
Is there an event that stands out as the beginning of what
you called your hard year?
Like with any marriage, there's issues that you have,
and they come up.
And then something, like I said in my interview,
happened where I did lose my trust, and--
Something that he did?
I care about my family first.
And, I mean, I tried.
I really did try.
And so then when I couldn't, I--
the kind of the things that I had been--
I don't want to say putting up with,
but, you know, just became more apparent to me, I guess.
And I just couldn't--
I guess I couldn't do that anymore.
And I finally just had a breaking point.
But I really thought it would come back.
I thought, OK, well, this is just a temporary thing.
You thought the marriage would come back?
Yeah.
And?
And then it didn't.
Hmm.
Did you want it to?
Of course.
I wasn't married to this man for 28 years because I was--
I mean--
You're not faking it at 28 years.
No.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not.
Anybody knows I did not want to be in this position.
Look, since the beginning of this show,
there were rumors about infidelity
in your relationship.
And I'm even thinking, wasn't that
what those tabloids were that somehow
appeared on that cast trip?
Kyle, there was that story about Mauricio cheating
and whatnot.
What's up with that?
Did you tell Brandy to pack the tabloids that had the lies
about Mauricio in them? - No.
I'm pissed.
I'm [bleep] pissed.
I don't know what you want me to tell you.
Yes, yes.
OK.
And he would say to me, we can't care.
We know the truth.
And, of course, there's always that little voice in my head
like, what if this is true?
People would say these things all the time, so--
Casting a shadow of doubt.
- Yeah, chipping away. - It's a campaign of whispers.
It plants a seed.
It's a campaign of whispers, whispers around.
And then that's how it comes ugly.
Did those rumors over the years
cause you to chip away at your trust for him?
Yes.
They did.
And they made me feel insecure.
You know what?
People I know, when you're high-profile,
they're going to say you're this, you're that.
They're going to make stories up.
OK.
They're trying to hurt you, make you feel bad.
And it works. - Yes.
- And it does work. - And it does work.
This year, it seemed like the two of you
were struggling to find time together as a couple,
particularly as Mauricio's professional
obligations expanded.
I have to say, I did not have it on my bingo card
ever that Mauricio would be on "Dancing With the Stars."
That blew my mind. - No, same.
Yeah.
That's when I thought, there is no way in hell
that Kyle would have okayed that.
[laughing]
Just seemed out of character.
Well, the funny thing is that if our marriage was
in the place it used to be, I would
have never have said yes.
Right.
But I was like, OK.
Let me ask you something.
Why, though?
It's not like you would be jealous or anything?
Oh, yes, I would. [laughing]
- Oh. - Would you?
Yes, I would have.
Really?
Oh, that's why.
On "Dancing With the Stars," Mauricio
dedicated a very suggestive dance with his partner Emma
to you, Kyle.
Marble Fractal on Reddit said, the intimacy
of the dance and the dedication to Kyle
were 100% an F you to Kyle done specifically by Mauricio
to get under her skin.
All "of Dancing With the Stars" is suggestive.
I'm sorry.
Look, when you're doing the waltz,
you're pelvises are together.
The whole thing is partners.
Well, how did you take it?
Did you see it?
It was very hard for me to watch.
How did you feel seeing photos of he
and Emma holding hands?
Did not feel good.
How did you take it, Dorit?
I didn't like it.
When I saw it, it felt like me seeing PK
holding another woman's hand.
You've said, we're separated.
We're broken up.
Yeah, we are separated.
We are allowed to do what we want to do, each of us.
We are allowed.
Yes, so then when you see him partying
it up in Aspen with a bunch of women, I mean, does that--
how are you handling that?
It's weird because we live together in the same house,
so it's sort of like, what are you doing?
Adam from Atwater Village said, Kyle's dancing around
the reason for her split.
What's the real reason?
And why won't she just spit it out?
[tense music]
♪
Coming up--
Is there anything going on with Morgan?
It looked like you guys were girlfriends.
Um--
Adam from Atwater Village said, Kyle's dancing around
the reason for her split.
What's the real reason?
And why won't she just spit it out?
Because it's nobody's [bleep] business.
You are separated but still living under one roof.
Mm-hmm.
Are there conversations about someone moving out?
Yes, there has been now.
Who would move out?
Um--
He would.
Yeah.
[sobbing]
How are the kids handling this?
My girls are so strong and supportive.
But it's painful for everybody.
It's very painful.
Even though you go through things with people--
he's my family, he's my nieces' father.
And now looking back, I would say for the last two,
maybe three years, you've been traveling.
When you're not doing "Housewives,"
you're going all over.
And little by little, people enjoy some success.
And they start to go off in different directions.
And you're busy, like the hamster
in the cage chasing your tail, no time
to think about anything.
And then all of a sudden you have this devastation.
But you were a little weird for three years.
Not with me, but--
OK.
That's actually not correct timing with my marriage,
to be honest.
So the separation is definitive.
Do you talk about divorce, or you're just
taking one step at a time?
It's hard for us to say that word, I think.
But, I mean, if he's looking for a place to move out,
I haven't really seen any progress.
We get along well, but like friends.
Yeah, are you hopeful they'll get back together, Kathy?
I only want what she wants.
I support you.
And your happiness is the most important thing.
Yeah, we're all hoping for the best in whatever course
this takes.
I want to turn to the person that
got everyone talking this season, and that's your friend
Morgan Wade.
There's been a big response to the two of you.
What's been her reaction to seeing herself on the show?
She's never seen the show.
And she did not realize the attention it gets.
It was a lot of scrutiny for her
she was not comfortable with.
It's like every single day, "Page Six,"
"Daily Mail," "TMZ."
She's not used to--
Just speculating about the two of you?
Yes.
NYC Stephanie on Twitter said, the chemistry in Kyle
and Morgan's first scene together is electric.
You look like you'd be a little crazy.
I haven't seen-- - Really?
Thank you. Well, I can get firey.
Sorry, firey.
Not crazy.
My, God, see, it's already happening.
Oh, God. [laughter]
JJ said, Kyle's like a giddy school girl around her.
I wonder if the group--
did you all think that they were together?
I did.
You did?
Yeah.
From the tabloids?
I thought it before.
I was sent stuff.
Kathy and I was sent stuff.
We had lunch one day.
Crystal kind of was hinting around.
You didn't even say the name.
You're just like, is Kyle's friend--
I just thought it was like way low-key.
But people sent me stuff like Instagram pictures.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
And I remember thinking, they're together.
Dorit, what did you think?
On Instagram, there were a lot of pictures of you guys.
And so then I remember thinking, are they together?
It looked like you guys were girlfriends.
Annemarie, you said on "The After Show"
that Kyle found someone in Morgan
who makes her feel loved.
Kyle found somebody who supports
her and makes her feel loved.
What-- expand on that?
Yeah, I mean, I think it's great
when you have a friendship with somebody,
and you guys really get each other.
And there are things that you can bond over.
I think that's really important,
especially when you're going through such
a tough time in your life.
Garcelle and Sutton also had some thoughts
to share on the aftershow.
Kyle would drop a couple of things
that she did with Morgan that I thought, wow, that's such
a personal thing to do.
Like what?
She went to the doctor with her.
But I thought to myself--
Oh, I remember.
wow, that's such a personal thing to go
with someone you just met.
Hmm.
Orange Ryan said, I feel like Kyle has
a big girl crush on Morgan.
But I don't feel it's reciprocated.
Randy DeSavage said, this is the reason
Morgan is friends with Kyle.
She likes the clout.
Ladies, what do you think?
That's ridiculous. She has--
A lot of people would be like she's the furthest--
critically-acclaimed music. She's not.
Yes.
Conversely, you kind made her a household name.
Like I said, she cares about making music.
She really does.
And I think she would really give up being a household name
just to be able to keep making her music
and not have that scrutiny.
But when did you decide to do the music video?
Like when--
Why or when?
When, because--
The music video was done actually right about--
I want to say a month before that story
broke about Mo and me.
So the point of doing it was--
Obviously, once that story came out about Mo and me,
we're not even making the video after that.
We made it before.
You had already done it.
We'd already done it.
So the purpose of that music video was what?
She was on tour at the time.
And then she was going to be playing at Stagecoach.
And she said, I want to come and do this for you
to support you for the event for Loreen.
But then you have to be in one of my videos.
I didn't really know the creative
behind it until I got there.
If you get on the internet,
you see people are obsessed with us being friends
and why we're friends.
But we thought it would be a good idea to poke fun at that.
Well, if they're going to talk,
you might as well give them something to talk about, so--
And I said to the director, I've never
actually kissed anybody on camera, let alone a woman,
or off camera.
Right.
So I was very nervous and anxious.
But, I mean, if I'm being honest with myself,
I was obviously curious in order to say yes.
I mean, I don't-- I love--
I mean, I don't know. I don't know.
- Don't be embarrassed. - No, no, I'm not.
I'm saying, I was obviously curious.
I said yes for a reason.
And you know what?
She's hot.
What can I say?
Million-dollar question, is there anything going on
between the two of you?
Um--
♪
Kyle, million-dollar question,
is there anything going on with Morgan?
In that way?
Yeah.
Um--
No.
Are you a couple?
No.
Do you have feelings for her?
I mean, I love her.
And she's my friend.
And I love her.
Kathy, what do you think of Morgan?
You've hung out with her a bunch.
I have hung out with her a bunch.
And I just think she is funny.
She's very bright, humble, refreshing.
And then when I saw her perform,
I was really blown away.
Kyle, could you see yourself with Morgan?
I don't know.
By the way, I mean--
I don't know. I don't know.
OK, that's not a no.
I'm evolving.
I'm changing.
I'm clearly going through some evolution of my own.
And I don't know.
I don't know what my future holds right now.
Well, maybe next year she'll be
out here on the couch with us. Who knows?
- You never know. - You never know.
All right, I'm going to leave it there.
And this is so odd because we've got Garcelle and Sutton
and Merce's remaining ashes in an ambulance--
Oh, my goodness.
on their way to the hospital.
Poor Merce.
We are all praying for Sutton.
- Yes. - Yeah, absolutely.
Yes, we are.
And I'm glad she's getting help.
And I would love to just ask each of you something
that you're going to take away from this season.
I want to start with you, Annemarie.
You had a rough ride.
Very rough ride.
I hope you feel tonight like you were
able to mend some fences and--
I think it's just important for me
to remember that what is most important
is happiness and health.
Yeah.
Crystal?
That I shouldn't be afraid to speak up because my voice
matters, yeah.
Erika?
I'm OK.
I'm proud that I showed up for myself.
It's been hard.
But I feel so much better.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Kathy, feel good?
I do.
I'm really happy to be able to be here with Kyle tonight
and to be able to speak.
I really think that it's wonderful
that you girls, at the end of the day,
do care about each other and have a sisterhood.
And I really respect it.
Nice.
Dorit, what about you?
Not to trust--
let me start again, Andy, sorry.
[laughter]
Go ahead.
Then why did you ask me the question?
No, I know I did. Go ahead.
[laughter]
Sorry.
I am, just by nature--
if somebody is being nice and someone is--
makes me feel like we're friends, I believe it.
And I think I have to be a little less naive.
OK, Dorit, that was about Garcelle
what you were saying, right?
Yeah.
Kyle, I'll let you have the last word.
While I may have lost what I felt was
my happily ever after, I am strong enough.
And I'm going--
I will have my happily ever after no matter what.
OK, thank you.
A lot of optimism ending the season, which I like.
And we miss Garcelle and Sutton.
Want to thank all of you at home for watching.
What a great season, ladies.
I'm Andy Cohen.
Good night.
[upbeat music]
[sighs]
Make sure you remind everyone who you are because no one
really knows you. - Sorry.
What is your name?
Well, they put it in the prompter.
[laughter]
I know, I know, I know.