- Tonight, it's part two of "The Real Housewives
Of Beverly Hills: Reunion."
- I don't necessarily think that I'm doing something,
when I first do it, that it's bad.
- Bad. - No. Ah.
- Not always. - Ah.
- Sutton, is she someone who makes things about herself?
- A little bit, if I'm gonna be honest, a little bit.
Yeah. Yeah.
- You wrote about an experience with Bill Cosby.
- Yeah.
He invited me to his townhouse, and I got up,
and I ran out of there. - (BLEEP).
I've got chills.
- That's the worst thing I've ever said in my life.
And I will regret it till the day I die.
- You got to stop, Kyle. Enough already.
- Actually, you have to stop. - That's my truth.
- Just admit that you made it up.
- You don't understand it. - No.
- And you never will.
- All I have to do is tell the truth.
- I did not call you soulless.
- And begging you...
- I did not.
- I did not call you soulless.
- Sutton--Sutton called you soulless.
- You can't--
- Nobody in this group would ever
go after your sweetheart son.
[dramatic music]
* *
- I don't hate you, Diana.
I just want to be left alone.
I don't want you posting about me.
I don't want you harassing me on social media.
I haven't harassed anyone here on social media.
- Did you not go and--and call me evil?
- I called you evil because of what you said to her.
- You know what evil looks like?
- Was it after you called Sutton a (BLEEP)?
- Things in Aspen become explosive
between Sutton and Diana.
- Oh, she was evil.
- Which is the harsher word?
C word or evil?
- The C word. - Really?
- It's harsher than calling somebody evil?
- Really?
- You think that calling someone evil is worse than...
- Well, I call myself the C word, so I don't know.
- Calling someone the C word? - Yeah.
Evil is-- - I think evil is--
- I mean--
- I think evil's much worse. - Oh, really?
- Yeah. - Oh, yeah.
- Yeah. - Oh.
- Yeah. - Oh. Okay.
- So soulless, mother----er, evil.
- I did not call you soulless.
- And begging you...
- I did not call you soulless. - I did.
- You haven't called me--
- Sutton--Sutton called you soulless.
- You can't talk to her.
- Sutton called you soulless. - Yeah.
- Sutton, is there something that you
wanted to clear up or say to Diana if she were here today?
- Oh, I don't need to clear anything up.
No.
I mean, I think we're very clear on our non-relationship.
- I'm so disappointed right now.
I'm really, really hurt for everything that Garcelle said.
I just--I'm actually in shock.
- [laughs]
She just said some things, but it's me.
It's always me.
- I will--I will put my right hand, and I'm putting it,
that I know that nobody in this group would ever
go after your sweetheart son.
Not a chance. Not a chance.
Jax and Garcelle brought it to our attention,
but I'm sure this is happening on a daily basis.
And yesterday, I have filed a lawsuit in L.A. County,
and we will get to the bottom of it,
and we will find the truth and we will get justice for Jax.
No 14-year-old should ever go through what he went through.
- Who is the lawsuit against?
I don't understand--
- John Doe.
- So you file-- it's John Doe 'cause we
don't know who did it.
- So how will it work now?
Whose job is it to uncover who this is?
- So my lawyers are gonna be very busy.
The thing is my privilege is that I have money
and I can afford lawyers,
and we can actually get to the bottom of it
and maybe even help prevent it from happening
to other people.
- Garcelle, what was your reaction to this lawsuit?
- Um, good for her. Good.
- I almost want to say her intentions are really good.
Like, she wants to find out too.
And I think you guys are just hurt by the whole thing.
- I'm hurt,
but I'm also not putting stuff on social media about her.
- Right. - That's another--
- What kinds of stuff is she putting
on social media about you?
- I didn't want to talk about her
honestly 'cause I don't want to feel anymore--I'm good.
- Okay. - I'm good.
- All right. We're gonna leave it there.
Diana, thanks for rallying to be with us today.
And I hope you feel better.
- Thank you so much for having me.
We need to take a break. We're gonna be right back.
Are we breaking for lunch, guys?
- Oh, please. For the love of God, I hope.
- Yes. We're breaking for lunch.
- Oh, God.
[soft dramatic music]
- You look great, by the way. - Do I?
- Yeah. - Thanks.
So do you. - Well, thank you.
- Garcelle, how about that?
- No, she said I thought it was someone on the show.
All of our children have been threatened.
- Death threats. - Death threats.
And for her to say, "Yes, I thought it was you guys."
- That's sad.
And the division that it causes...
- In the group. - In the group.
And that's what they were designed to do.
- Bingo.
- Were you here for Diana?
- [laughs]
Welcome to our world.
Are you wearing Waylon socks? - Uh-huh.
- [laughs] You're insane.
- Do you think-- will this do for part two?
- Yeah, sure. It'll be warmer.
- Uh-huh.
- What do you think of the first--
I am flabbergasted. - You held it up.
You did great with the Jax talk.
I know that was hard. - That was hard.
That was hard, and my investigation is still going.
I will not stop until I know who bought those bots.
- No. - I will not stop.
- I'm not gonna stop either. - That's my mission.
- I've got your back. - I know you do.
- [sighs]
So I was really trying to understand
what Crystal was saying.
- It felt like you wanted us to believe
she said something racist.
- I did not want that.
And if I wanted to bring it up, I would
have done it two years ago.
- I'm glad you guys were able to move on.
But how do you feel-- like, obviously,
I knew you're not a racist. - No.
- But to actually have it-- - Said?
- Yeah.
In front of everybody. - Yeah.
Thank you.
It's a long time coming.
- I think what the other women were saying
is like, "Well, wait a minute."
- Well, that's also nice to see the other women's support.
- We got to take all the little wins.
- You got to.
- I feel like, with Crystal,
she is--she's struggling to just admit
that she may have-- like when she--
- Embellished? - Yes.
- Well, let's just call it what it really was.
- Yes.
- She wasn't--she was not telling the truth...
- I know. - To cover her ass.
- You just assume it's a story. What if it's actually my truth?
- But your truth wasn't true. You're making that up.
- It is true to me.
- You just said that there wasn't that story.
- I didn't make up anything. - There was no real dark story.
- I'm not making up--
And she also tried to say that she didn't say that.
- I know. To him.
- This is what happens when you don't tell the truth,
you can't keep your story straight.
- I know.
* *
- Coming up...
- I had gone to the finals of the World Cup in Berlin,
and this guy walks up to me and my friend, he goes,
"Hey, you two chicks in porn?" (BLEEP) Paul Kemsley?
I mean-- - No, seriously?
- Welcome back to "The Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills: Reunion."
Jane from Indianapolis said, "Kyle,
"I love the new ink on your wrists.
What do your tattoos mean?"
- Well, this is 18, which all 4 of my daughters
have 18 in their birthdays.
And this heart is, um, a heart
and it means something to me.
And I just got this yesterday, a new one,
a moon and four stars, each star to represent
my four daughters. - That's sweet.
- Aw. - When did you get the tattoos?
- I was in New York working,
and I had a couple days off, so I decided
to go get these on my arms.
I had talked about it with my family for a while.
- Yes. - Mau's thrilled.
I heard they're addicting.
So now I'm on probation. - Oh, yes.
- I have to wait a little while, so.
- Well, for 12 seasons, Kyle has shared her life with us.
And each year, it gets more and more fabulous.
How does this OG keeps setting the Beverly Hills bar so high
and doing the split so low?
- Oh, God. - Take a look.
[laughter]
- I missed you guys.
- Hi. - Hi.
- Mwah. - Mwah.
- What do we think about these boots?
- You really are a shopper.
- I think I need to run out and buy one more
smaller turkey, by the way.
We're now automatically a family of eight
because Alex and his mom. - It's gonna keep growing too.
- Farrah and Alex have been dating for a few years now.
- Farrah and I had--when we have our child together...
- Too soon. - Okay.
- What is that?
- It was definitely time for them to get engaged.
- You guys, I'm not gonna be a high maintenance
at all about this.
- You're not gonna be a bridezilla?
- No.
- Who do you think will be more zilla,
bridezilla or groomzilla?
- Bridezilla. - Yeah?
Sure? Positive?
- [laughs] - Famous last words.
- You had said, "Are you not concerned?"
And I said to you, "Garcelle, I've known her for so long.
She's never ever been like this."
And you said, "Don't be Kyle.
Don't be Kyle. Don't be Kyle."
- Yeah. - Okay.
Now see, you're exaggerating. I said, "Don't be Kyle."
Don't be Kyle. Don't be Kyle.
- What were you trying to say?
- I guarantee you said it more than once.
- What's wrong with being Kyle?
[laughter]
- What did you mean? - About "don't be Kyle"?
I don't even know at the time, but probably--
- I think because she had the same--
- She was kind of defending me about going overboard
and you were like, "Don't be Kyle.
Don't be Kyle." - Yeah, yeah, okay.
Yeah. "Don't be Kyle." Yeah.
- Kyle, have Farrah and Alex set a date for the wedding?
- They have not yet,
but they're looking at the spring.
- Where will it be?
- They want to get married in the desert
near our home in La Quinta somewhere
because when they were dating, they spent a lot of time there.
- The parents of the bride foot the bill.
I have to assume you're gonna go very big.
- She actually doesn't want anything too over the top,
but, of course, it's our first, we're gonna
make a nice--I mean, you saw Portia's Bat Mitzvah.
- I need this side of the room to scream of Portia, please!
[people screaming]
- Can't be less than that.
- Bravojunky77 said,
"All this talk about Mau and Dorit
having an affair." - [laughs]
- Which I didn't realize there was talk about that.
"I really think it's PK
and Mauricio having the affair."
- Seriously. - Definitely.
- Yeah. - That's right.
- I'm starting to get jealous of this Mau-mance.
- This is for you, buddy. - Thank you so much.
- That's your new favorite belt.
- I love it. - People got that from--
it was after the home invasion. - Yes.
- And Dorit hugged PK and Mau like this
and they said, "Can you--did you see
the way Dorit hugged Mau?" - I know.
- "It was so obvious." - How are you?
- How are you doing, my man? I missed you.
- I'm all right. You? - You made it home.
- I spoke to you last night.
- And then I heard we were swapping.
- Wow.
- And then it was a whole thing.
- I was like, "Gosh, please. For the love of God,
Let it go."
- DJ253 said, "Mauricio and PK
"talking about which wife they would hook up with.
"Their answers didn't surprise me.
"Ladies, did any of their answers
surprise or offend you?" - Not at all.
- I'm trying to remember who they said.
- So PK said... - Erika.
- Erika? - And Mau said Rinna.
- They look nice, the ladies, don't they?
- If we had to take the wives out of the--who wins?
Who wins? - All right.
- After three.
One, two, three.
- Rinna. - Erika.
Oh, you went Rinna, huh? - There you go.
- Is that right? Mau said you and PK said Erika?
- So here's what, before PK met Dorit,
I had gone to the finals of the World Cup in Berlin,
and this guy walks up to me and my friend,
and he goes, "Hey, you two chicks
in porn?" (BLEEP) Paul Kemsley.
I mean-- - No, seriously?
- Are you in porn?
- He goes, "Are you two chicks in porn?"
And he was just being like an ass.
- Dorit's like--
- I actually didn't--I don't think I even know that.
- That's such a cute story. - I know.
- No, he was being himself.
Like, he was being, like, sassy.
- All right, on a different note,
for Garcelle, the hustle never stops.
She's written her first book, purchased a new beach house,
and finally bought her first Birkin.
- Mazel, Garcelle. Let's watch.
- Mazel.
- You're not missing bags. - I'm not missing Birkins.
- Hi, baby.
You wanted a party, I'm giving you a party.
- Oh, my God. You're giving me a party?
Hi, baby.
- I already had a sale on the way here.
- That one's sold? - 45.
- Thousand? - Thousand.
I'm fascinated with the love of Birkins,
and I don't have one.
Ooh.
I got kids that have to go to college.
Just seems like a lot for a bag.
Does it come with money in it?
- Bippity-boppity-boo.
Turn the birthday cake into a real Birkin.
- That's a good number for that.
You change your mind, sell it. - Smart.
- You never will, but that makes you feel good when
you make a purchase. That's what I do.
[chanting together] Get the bag!
Get the bag!
- Okay.
- You'll make more money. - It's so good.
- Adieu, sold!
- Oh, my God. - [screams]
I bought just a little tiny thing that I'm redoing.
My vision is to build at least 2,700 square foot.
Come on in. - Absolutely.
- I mean, everything basically is
going it's for the property. - Yes.
I mean, that's the only way, really,
you're gonna get to see the value of the property.
- Yeah.
I didn't grow up knowing anyone who owned
more than one home or even owned a home.
So for me, buying a beach house,
it's a pretty big deal.
- Oh, that is beautiful! - Isn't it gorgeous?!
Oh, I love it so much!
- I don't want sand in the sandals.
- Oh, good Lord. We're at the beach.
There's gonna be sand.
- All right.
How does it feel being the proud owner of a Birkin?
- I thought you said beach house.
- Thought he was gonna say the beach house.
- That's not where I thought you were going.
It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
It's still a little uncomfortable for me.
- Why?
- I mean, I left it on my dining room table for two days
'cause I thought if I take it to my closet,
then that means I really own it.
So it sat there for two days.
- And you're gonna have to pay for it.
- How much was it? - Huh?
- How much was it? - It was 13.
- Sutton, is 13 grand-- is that a good deal
on a vintage Birkin?
- I mean, I told her to go to Paris, we'll get one there.
- It was-- - No, it was more in Paris.
- I thought it was a good price for it.
- You did? - Yeah.
- I did.
- How many people here own a Birkin.
I think everybody.
You do not? - I had a Kelly.
It's not my thing. - It's not your thing?
- It's not my vibe. - All right.
How is construction on the beach house going?
- Slow. - Yeah?
- It is slow.
Permits for everything. - Yes.
- I mean, my God.
I've had it for a year now... - Nothing.
- And I mean, it's not knocked down.
- Right.
- That's as far as we've gotten so far.
- Garcelle, your book came out earlier this year.
Congratulations. - Thank you so much.
- You wrote about an experience
with Bill Cosby... - Yeah.
- When you were really young. - Mm-hmm.
- What happened?
- I got a part in-- on "The Cosby Show."
And he had called my modeling agency at the time
and said that he wanted my number.
And of course, they asked me.
And at the time, Bill Cosby was huge.
- Huge. - Yes.
- I mean, my God.
And so I got a small part on his show.
And-- - How old were you?
- I had just turned 18.
- Wow. - Wow.
- And after that, he invited me to his townhouse
to work on my acting, and he offered me sambuca,
and I took a sip,
and something about it didn't feel right.
- Oh.
- Something about me being in the house did not feel right.
And I got up, and I ran out of there as fast as I could.
- You are so lucky. - Wow.
- So lucky. - Wow.
- So lucky.
- That is listening to your gut.
- Yeah. - Good for you.
- Honestly, at 18? - Wow.
- And that was the name of that actual chapter was...
- (BLEEP). I've got chills.
- Listening to Your Gut because, you know,
so many times, we don't. We go, "Ah."
- Right.
- But I tend to listen to what my gut says.
- So, Erika, did you at least skim
Garcelle's book for mentions of you
before you chucked it in the trash?
[dramatic music]
* *
- Well, I have to be honest, I'm the one
that threw Garcelle's book in the trash.
- Oh, really? - I did.
- Garcelle, your book came out earlier this year.
Erika, did you at least skim Garcelle's book
for mentions of you before you chucked it in the trash?
- I'm the one that threw Garcelle's book in the trash.
- Oh, really?
- Garcelle and I had a handshake agreement.
The kids were off limits.
And so about a year and a half later,
she put my daughter Amelia in her book
in not a positive light and in a negative light.
And that was what I did.
- What was in the book about Amelia?
I thought that what was in the book was you retold...
- Yes.
- The story of what had happened on the show.
- That's exactly right. - Is that what was--
- It was me retelling the story of what happened in Rome.
Do you think that your body image
affected your daughter in any way?
- I actually don't think that
that that is what caused Amelia's anorexia.
- And I'm not saying it was.
- Amelia shouldn't have to be in Garcelle's book
in a negative light no matter what.
- I understand that.
But let me just paint the whole picture.
You read the book or read that part...
- Yes. Yes.
- You skimmed and found that part.
The next thing I know, her lawyer called my manager.
- And then everybody got hot and heated about it.
- Right. And I said, "What can we do?
It's a week before the book actually comes out.
What can we do?"
And so we all came up with a second edition of the book.
We will take it out as well as audio,
and that's what we did.
- And I said, "Okay," and we've moved on.
- Yeah. - We've moved on.
- Yeah.
- So you threw the book out, and what,
sent the picture to Erika?
- Well, I sent the video to the group chat.
- That's what I heard, and everybody
was snickering about it.
- I don't know about snickering, but...
- I don't know about snickering.
- I sent it, and then Erika chose to post it.
- It was a group chat, but she was not on the group chat?
- There's a separate group chat obviously.
- When I saw Garcelle used the, "I don't have
to make yourself look bad. You can do it all on your own."
She chose to use that piece for her Instagram.
- Erika, I don't have to make you look bad.
You can do that on your own.
- And the caption was, "You know how else
"you can make yourself look bad?
Not buy my book." And I was like, "No."
So I took that video, added Oscar the Grouch,
put it on my story and said, "Hey, @Garcelle,
I know you don't follow me, but I bet you'll see this."
- Do you recycle? Because--
- Oh, that's an issue. We have to talk about that.
- I got so much sh-- about recycling.
- All right.
- I have to say, you took a lot of sh--, Erika,
for her lack of recycling. - I was like, "Hey, girl."
- Okay.
- We've got an old phone in there.
- 80s phone. - Hold on.
Hold on.
- They thought it was Tom's phone.
- Yeah. - Hold on.
We have had a whole... - A rotary.
- Re-doing of this recycling at the Hamlin house...
- Good.
- Because, first of all, Harry Hamlin
threw that phone in there,
and then he said, "No, I didn't."
And I said, "Yes, you did."
Anyway, long story short, we have now
recycled quite well. - Good.
Because that was a disaster. - That was a very bad--
- I recycle. - That was terrible.
- That was not my trash.
- Erika took the brunt of this for a very long time.
- She did, and even Lisa Vanderpump
then came after you and said that Garcelle
should have sent you a scratch and sniff book
so you could understand it. - Yeah.
And I said, "That's rich coming from you
whose breath smells of garlic, chardonnay, and cigarettes."
- Oh, boy.
Garcelle, you got a big reaction
when you told the women
that Oliver is working for Lisa...
- Yeah. - In Las Vegas.
- Yeah.
Oliver just got a great job working for somebody you know.
- Who? - Who?
- Lisa Vanderpump. - What?
- I don't know her. Bye.
- [laughing]
- Garcelle, the best way home, I'll send your stuff,
just walk through there.
Up the mountain.
- Is he still working for her? - Yeah.
- And how did that happen?
- She was having an event for Haiti
at one of her restaurants here in L.A., and I got invited,
and it was the first time I met her.
I knew he was looking for a job.
And I said, "Hey, my son's looking for a job."
- And when was the last time you saw her?
- I saw her recently. - You did?
- Didn't you just film with her?
- I did. Yeah.
- What was your reaction to that?
- Oh, I just thought, "Wow. All right."
- We're gonna leave it there, and we're gonna take a break.
We'll be right back.
- Can we guys get some waters? - That was a major revelation.
You took the--
- You know, I'm ----in' down, man.
- She ----in' took it for that long.
- Well, she posted it.
- I'm that kind of--you know, like, if you say, "Hey."
I'm like, "Okay, hey."
- She got so much sh-- about the recycling,
that's when I really felt bad 'cause I was like--
- No, I was like, "Girl, I'm getting all this sh--
for this phone." - I have worked the recycling.
It's all good now.
- Coming up next...
Lisa, feels like you're using your mother's death
- Welcome back.
Lisa, your mom Lois was beloved...
- Oh, God.
- By family, friends, and fans alike.
- Let me just get the tissues. - I was gonna say. Yeah.
- After she passed, I know you had a difficult time grieving
and your anger took over.
Were her outbursts excusable or out of line?
Watch.
- The lipstick is called, "I Love Lois."
- Oh, isn't that cute. - That's the name of it.
- Oh, my God!
- My mom passed in hospice.
The hardest decision
in that moment was, you know,
saying that she...
[somber music]
you know, making the decision to not,
um, keep her alive, it's really hard.
[sighs]
- * Eastside, Westside *
* Ooh, ooh, ooh * - [laughs]
- Cheers to Lois. - To Lois.
- Cheers, Lois.
- You talk out of both sides of your mouth.
And-- - Well, so do you.
- No I don't. - And, you know, (BLEEP) you.
- The soap actress in Lisa never leaves her body.
- Get out of my house.
If you're gonna talk like this, you should leave.
- It would take an exorcism to get the soap actress out.
- If you come for my husband and kids,
I will ----in' hunt you down!
- If you want to make this go away,
you make a public apology.
- I have to play by your rules...
- And you say, "I'm so sorry I did that."
- Do what you say.
- Sutton, why did you do it in the first place?
- Lisa Rinna's rule book. - Sutton, why?
Sutton? - Let me see.
"Do what she says, then it goes away."
- Sutton, when I get it, I will let the (BLEEP) go.
- I understand that Lisa is in a lot of pain.
I wish that she wouldn't lash out at people
because of it, but everyone processes grief differently.
- My pain is not about Sutton.
And so we're gonna let that go now.
- Yes.
- I have a lot of anger and feelings
about a lot of things in my life.
I'm-- [Lisa sobbing]
I'm trying to figure out how to live without my mom.
And I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it.
I'm doing the best I can. - It's okay.
- Oh, my gosh. - It's okay, honey.
- How you been?
- Well, it's hard, you know?
It's really hard to come and do a show like this
and maybe it would have been better
if I'd taken the time off because, you know,
when you're in that deep of pain,
um--I've done the best I can.
I'm sorry for being crazy and a maniac
and screaming and doing what I've done.
Um, I--I really just am trying to walk through life.
- You had a memorial in July. What was that like?
- Yeah, just--just recently, which was really beautiful.
You know, I think waiting that long to put her to rest
was really difficult, and if we had been able to do it sooner,
it might have helped a bit. Why didn't you do it sooner?
- She wanted to wait. - She did?
- Yes, she asked us to wait till the summer.
The girls had her ashes.
And I just went in, and I like kissed them.
So I left my lipstick on her...
- Urn. - Urn.
- And then the girls put it in,
and then we were able to put the plaque on and--
so there was a great sense of relief after that.
And that was two months ago almost?
- Some closure.
- It really hit me really ----in' hard.
- It was touching watching you go through her boxes.
What was the most treasured thing that you found?
- One of my favorite things was a crystal Christmas tree
'cause she loved Christmas, and then this ceramic carnation
that used to sit on her desk.
Aw!
I wanted that. Look at that.
She just always had it.
Little things like that. I mean, there's many.
- I loved the Post-It. - I love the Post-It.
- Oh, the Post-It was great. - The "Me too."
- On my dad's tombstone it says, "I did it my way."
And hers is gonna say, "Me too."
- "Me too." Oh, really?
- She wrote that herself.
- Eddie from New York said, "Lisa, feels like you're using
"your mother's death as a scapegoat
"for your despicable behavior.
"What excuse did you have when you
were equally disgusting to Denise, Vanderpump, and Kim?"
- Listen, it has been a very confusing time for me.
And I'm not gonna scapegoat it, and I'm not gonna use it.
I'm gonna say it just is
and has been a very confusing--
I have been all over the place.
And I don't ever remember myself being
quite so all over the place, but I have been.
- Lisa... - Yeah.
- Grief can manifest itself in terrible ways.
Are you at least talking things through with a therapist?
- I am. - Great.
- And have been from the beginning.
- That's great.
- So, you know, thank God for her.
- Erika, Rinna stepped in and gave you some tough love
about drinking and acting out.
Did you do the same for Lisa when you saw her acting out?
- Lisa and I've talked privately about losing Lois
and how much this has affected her.
- Mm-hmm. - And this is hard for her.
- Right.
- This was probably the most important person in your life.
- Did she watch the show?
- Are you kidding? - Yeah.
So what did she make of you, Rinna?
Because... - You know--
- You've had some moments on the show.
- She never judged me.
She never said, "Oh, my God.
I cannot believe you did that."
The one thing I will tell you about my mom
that she never did
was make me feel bad or less than.
And that is a pretty major thing
to be able to say about a parent.
- Yeah.
- I think she got a kick out of you.
- A big kick. - You know?
- And you got a kick out of her.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- And I got a big kick out of her.
- Coming up...
- Well, I'm not quite sure why
- Welcome back to "The Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills: Reunion."
In the balance sheet of Sutton's life,
does her clumsiness get added to her assets
or liabilities column?
Let's check the receipts and do a little accounting.
- I'm glad you have Sheree because I think
Sutton is a liability for you. - Really?
- Yes.
- Why does everybody come down on her?
- Sutton Stracke.
[cheers and applause]
- A few years ago, Harry and Lisa,
I invited them to the Elton John gala.
- Okay.
- And they came with me as my guest.
I never got a thank you.
- [gasps] - Oh!
- All right.
- That's what happened today with Dorit.
- It's weird. - It's terrifying.
- Begging for her life.
- I've been putting out fires all day today too.
I've got this French designer
that I'm bringing in, immigration is just--listen--
- That doesn't seem like a fire after what--
- Well, these are--you know, it's all relative.
- I know. I know. I know.
- I mean, I wasn't held at gunpoint.
I'm sorry. - What is wrong with you?
- You said you're in bed rest, but you're here.
So that's confusing.
- Do you want to see my doctor notice?
Maybe that would have helped.
- No, no, no.
- Uh-uh, handle it. Bup, bup, bup.
- Listen, I've had two miscarriages.
- Really?
- She said you called me a liability
when actually you are. - That's what came out--
- And I said, "No, your mouth is a liability."
- You know what, there are moments
when I really like her, and we have a very nice connection.
- And then she flips. - And I always say that.
But at the end of the day, she pokes the bear,
and she just is her own worst enemy.
- Gets what she--yeah, enemy. - She really is.
- So why am I a liability as a friend?
- Because she always has to clean up for you.
- Why do you guys make me feel bad
because I am a loyal friend? - I'm not.
- Like, why is that a bad thing?
- She supports you through all of the stuff that you get--
- That's what a friend does. That's called being a friend.
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- Okay, so, Sutton,
@BravoByBen said, "Sutton reacted differently
"to Dorit's home invasion because of her past,
"the story about her father's heart breaking.
"Of course, she would be triggered by hearing
about a gun to Dorit's head."
Kyle, what do you say to this?
- Well, I didn't-- at the time,
she just was talking about the designer, and I was,
like, very confused. It was out of left field.
I just felt like she was very kind of flippant.
- First of all, you know, that's the worst thing
I've ever said in my life.
It truly is the worst thing I've ever said in my life,
and I will regret it probably till the day I die.
It was just awful.
- I'm really glad to hear you say
that because I'm sure there are a lot of people
that have gone through traumatic events
that still wouldn't react like you did,
and it was really hurtful.
- I can't stand that I said that.
I hate that day.
- You saying that and saying that you'll regret it and--
- Oh, forever. - No, it does.
It feels like it's what I needed.
I needed to hear it. - Good.
- Kyle, Jules on Twitter says, "It's so weird Kyle
"gets physical with people.
"The way she was pushing and pulling on Sutton
"was disgusting.
You didn't like it when Brandi shoved you down those steps."
- Don't you ----in'-- - Oh, wow.
Really? - Don't ----ing--
- Don't touch me.
- Don't ----ing do that. - Don't ----ing touch me.
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- We got so many-- - They're very different.
- We got so many tweets though about people who felt that you
got very physical with her. - Which is so crazy.
- Stop. - ----ing real!
- Excuse me.
Sutton, don't talk like-- don't like that to her.
Don't like that to her.
- By the way, I am the kind of person like when I was just
talking to Garcelle, I do this, and she will joke with me
and go, "Don't push me. You know, I'm delicate."
So we have this joke.
I did not--I was not going to grab her
and she had a bruise on her
- Girl, you-- - Excuse me.
Hold on.
She had a bruise on her that was there
when she got there that people thought
I gave because of that. - That wasn't a bruise.
It was somebody's makeup.
- Okay, well, my point is I didn't hurt you.
- You pulled quit aggressively.
I mean, you did.
You also jumped directly on to Diana's side.
You didn't help me at all.
- You doubted her miscarriages. - Here's the thing, I hadn't--
- You basically were saying
that I was lying about two miscarriages.
- And I apologize for that.
- Is that her making it about herself
or is it her trying to relate to--
- Well, that's what I said.
- It's her making it about herself always.
- So the next morning-- - Come on, Dorit.
- Hold on.
I get now that you were trying to relate to her,
and that's why I called you first thing.
I said "I feel so bad. I'm so embarrassed.
"I don't remember everything. I apologize.
"And I really don't think you would ever
make something like that up." - Thank you.
- Garcelle... - Yeah.
- As someone who probably spends the most time
with Sutton here, I would think,
is she's someone who makes things about herself?
- A little bit if I'm gonna be honest, a little bit.
Yeah. Yeah.
- Erika, why is Sutton a liability to Garcelle?
- Garcelle, being a good friend,
you know, is there to help her, but in a way,
it obstructs us from really getting to know Garcelle.
- But I think the same thing could be said
about, well, actually all--
- I was gonna say, you know, do you think--
- You all stick up for each other.
- I wonder, Lisa Rinna, do you think
Erika is a liability to you?
You look out for her... - Yeah.
- Probably even more than Garcelle does with Sutton.
- I agree.
I have never ushered Sutton out of a party to protect Sutton.
- Yeah. Well, she has.
- You know what, let's go back to Kyle's.
It's enough. You're done.
We're going. We're leaving.
That's that. - (BLEEP).
Caving into some sh--.
- Fine. We're going home.
- Okay. So we're all different.
Hurray. - Oh, wait, hold on.
I want to hear from Crystal.
What do you think?
- The four of them, they protect each other
just as much, if not more... - They do.
- What they're saying about the two of them.
- They do. They do.
- All right.
So, Sutton, you had to know that moment
on "Watch What Happens Live" that you were throwing
a little dynamite out.
- I had no idea it was going to explode...
- In that way. - In such an atomic bomb way.
There was a bigger point that I was making
on "Watch What Happens Live."
And it was about giving a thank you to a friend.
And this goes back to kind of-- - The sauce.
- Yeah, the sauce. - Okay.
- I didn't get a text from you after we brought the sauce.
- I would have loved to have been able to say to Harry,
"She loved this sauce. She's thanking you for it."
- I mean, I said it when you guys were here.
- You absolutely did.
- It was not meant to hurt Lisa and Harry.
- A Twitter account called Kathy Hilton's Notes said,
"Sutton, Rinna has shown you through her words and actions,
she does not like you."
- Oh, that's not true. - Oh.
- "When will she realize she's not your friend?"
- Um, well, I'm not quite sure
why you really...
hate me so much now. And--
- I don't hate you. I've had some moments.
And I think you've had some moments with me.
I definitely don't-- I don't hate anybody.
And I can tell you that I don't--
- You were pretty brutal with me all season.
- I'm sorry you feel that I hate you.
I definitely don't hate you.
- It seemed like you maybe-- she was a little
bit of your punching bag.
- Well, you piss me off, for sure.
- But it leaked even after filming,
like on your Instagram and stuff.
You were still coming for me.
Like, you never stopped.
- I had a rough season, Sutton.
And I think that-- - I understand that.
But you didn't do it with anybody else but me.
So, you know, I don't consider you a friend.
- Okay. - And I mean, how can I?
- Andrea from San Francisco said, "Rinna's behavior
"towards Sutton at the wine tasting
"was obnoxious and embarrassing especially after we just
"watched her accept Sutton's apology
at lunch a few days before." - Yeah.
- I wondered about that because it was fun.
That lunch between the two of you was...
- Was great. - Actually really fun.
- People think I'm such a ----in' bitch.
Really?
Like, people are so ----in' scared of me.
I'm like, "I'm not so scary." - I'm not scared of you.
- You are at times.
- I did talk to you a lot during the time of hospice
and your mother's passing. - You did. You did.
- So then when I'm getting yelled at over and over
and over, I'm thinking, "Does she not remember
that I was such a good, steady friend to you?"
- You have. - You've yelled at me a lot.
I was a dead horse.
I--I--I turned into glue. - [chuckles]
- I mean, I was giving glue to all the schools in L.A.
That horse had gotten beaten.
I really need an apology.
- I am sorry that I did that.
I really am.
- But it's a pattern of behavior, you know?
- Well, I understand that.
But I'm talking to you right now.
- Right.
- And I am sorry that I took it out on you.
I am sorry that I took my pain...
- And anger.
- Anger, sadness, and fear...
- Mm-hmm. - Out on you.
I understand, you'll accept it if you want or not,
but I want you to know that I am sorry
that I took it out on you 'cause I did.
- Thank you. - And I am sorry.
- Yeah. Thank you for apologizing.
- Can I just ask-- 'cause I'm so curious now.
I didn't really understand the analogy of the glue.
[laughter]
- The horses. - They make glue out of horses.
- Out of horses. - She was a dead horse.
- Got it. - Yeah.
They make glue out of horses. - Okay.
- Out of their hooves. - Yeah.
- Oh. - What?
- Coming up...
You post some sh--.
- Lisa, I have spoken to you about this privately
many times.
Your social media is disastrous.
I mean-- - We've talked about it.
- We've talked about it a lot. - We've talked about it.
- You have no impulse control.
- Very, very little.
- You make so much trouble for yourself.
You post something, and then you
wind up having to delete it.
I mean, a week or two ago, you posted,
"I'm never posting about 'The Housewives
of Beverly Hills.'"
And then yesterday, you're posting up
a storm about the reunion and what's to come
and text messages.
- One text message, I posted. - Right. Okay.
- There's something that comes with being
an impulsive person. - Yes.
I think there's--
- It's a thrill that you get.
- It's a dopamine high. - Yes.
- A hit. - Yes, dopamine.
- Yeah. I think that it is.
- Even if it's negative attention, do you think?
- No, I don't like the negative.
But yes, even--
- Doesn't it give you anxiety though?
- Yes. - That stuff out there?
- It gives me anxiety.
You post some sh--, and I'm like, "What is she doing?"
- [chuckles]
- Like, blaming production for things.
Like, do you think that's gonna--do you--how do you--
- No, listen, I--okay, I try
to just express myself, and I do.
And in expressing myself--
- But why not call someone in production and say,
"I'm really upset"?
Like, "I feel like--"
- Well. - Well, that's too easy.
That's too easy.
Andy, She doesn't get the dopamine rush with that.
- But I don't necessarily think that I'm doing something,
when I first do it, that it's bad.
- No. Ah. - Not always.
- Ah. - Not always.
Not always. - Okay, not always.
But often you do.
- And then sometimes I'm like, "(BLEEP)."
- Okay. - You know?
- I mean, 'cause I know when I see them, I go...
[gasps] - Yeah.
- "Oh, my God."
- Listen, I'm impulsive, we all know that.
- Yes. - Yeah.
- I am a work in progress when it comes to that.
And I'm gonna get better. I will.
- You know it's in your control?
- Andy, I know that. - Okay, okay.
- And I get better, and then I'm not, and then
I get better, and I'm not. Just give me a chance.
- Any thoughts about giving up social media for a time?
- I try. Certainly.
- I'm sorry. I got to laugh.
- @ronibravo says, "From doxing people
"to posting racial microaggressions
"to just being a disaster on Instagram.
"Rinna needs to be put on pause.
She's too much this year."
- Put me ----in' on pause.
Put me on pause.
(BLEEP), I don't care.
- You also posted in a post that you wound up deleting...
- Yes.
- You said, "If we fight with Garcelle,
we're called racist." - That's true.
- "That's bullsh--.
"And I won't accept it.
"I'll express myself when and how I want.
I'm not afraid of any of you hos."
- Well, that got a little misinterpreted
because I was talking to the trolls
and the haters coming at me.
It's what happens.
- And what's your reaction to that?
- Sometimes what is said is perceived differently
when it comes to us.
So, therefore, if you're not around a lot of people
of color, if you're not around a lot of--like,
just like we had this--
the whole thing with the charity.
You calling me out about not paying with the charity
cut me to the core.
Sometimes what you say could have
an undertone of being racist, could be a microaggression.
- Mm-hmm.
- That's how I felt in my conversation.
- About what?
- My original conversation with Sutton is how I felt.
I now know that that was not her intention,
but the impact was how I felt.
- I think it's a little different though.
- You got to stop, Kyle. Enough already.
- No, actually, you have to stop enough.
- Enough.
- No, actually, you have to stop.
- I'm saying this is my experience.
- Because you're comparing two things.
You actually said something that didn't actually exist.
You were saying that something was out there.
She's talking about it. - No.
The conversation existed and she
made a public apology towards me
'cause she said she understood how I then felt about it.
As you apologized to Garcelle because you
didn't realize your impact. - Yeah.
But that was a very clean situation.
This is what I did, this is what affected her,
and whatever.
- It doesn't have to be clean like yours, okay?
- I'm just saying--
- Stop making it about how you experience it. Enough.
- it's not about how I experience it.
Calm your tits.
- You don't understand anything,
Kyle, until you experience it.
- It's not about how I experience it.
You weren't telling the truth. - Enough.
Just admit that you made it up. - That's my truth.
You don't understand it. - No.
- And you never will. - You made--no, that's not--
- That is your--that's who you are.
- No. That's actually not true.
You made something up.
- You only said you understood 'cause you
don't want to get in trouble. That's why.
Get real.
- That's actually not true.
We had a very nice conversation.
And I understood that, like, she said if I said that to--
- Enough. I'm done with you.
- No, we're actually supposed to talk
about these things, Crystal.
- I think you're talking about two different things.
- We're talking about two different things.
- Completely two different things.
- I think you're talking about the experience
of how you felt, and I think she's talking
about the dark comment that was made.
- Yes, that's what we're talking about.
- You're having two different conversations.
- Do either one of you guys think,
feel, or believe that anyone here on the cast is racist?
- No. - No.
- I think we all have a lot to learn.
- Yeah.
- I think the conversation has changed generationally.
Your intentions aren't bad.
It's just things are changing.
And it's subtle but yet the consequences are big.
- Yes. For everybody.
- All right.
We're gonna leave it there,
and we'll be back with more after this.
- Yes. - Okay.
So here's what's gonna happen. - I got to stand up.
- We're gonna do one more package
and then we are gonna take a little break
and we're gonna bring Kathy out.
Okay?
Fun, fun, fun.
- (BLEEP). I'm drinking something.
I don't give a (BLEEP).
- I'm ready. Yeah.
I'm ready. - 'Cause it's about--come on.
Let's go. - Let's do it.
Let's go. - No, no, no.
He said don't leave. - We're not leaving.
We're just gonna do a shot real quick.
- I have to save my energy for what's coming up.
[dramatic music]
- This next part is going to be--
- Oh, yeah.
- Gonna be a little tricky dicky.
- Let's do it last.
- She'll wait till the world.
* *
- I can't believe I'm having coffee at this hour.
I'm (BLEEP).
[quirky music]
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- Just tell the truth.
All I have to do is tell the truth.
* *
That's all there is.
I don't have to do anything else.
- Do you want a shot?
- Oh, yeah.
I brought my tequila just in case.
- The infamous tequila.
- Everyone wants to try it.
- The truth is the truth.
That's all we're doing is just telling the truth.
* *
- Next week, the Reunion concludes.
- I was traumatized by what happened in that house.
- But seriously, you've seen some (BLEEP) on this show.
- Andy--
- That was the thing that traumatized you?
You turned the earrings over. - Yes.
- You're trying to get them back though, right?
- We're on appeal for legal reasons.
- Well, that means you're in court trying to get them back.
- We're on appeal.
For legal reasons.
[dramatic music]
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- How would you think I would feel to hear that you
want to destroy your sister?
- But I also don't want to hear other things that's
gonna destroy my family. - I never said that.
I never said that. I said other things.
- Do you recall saying to me, "I get it.
"I get it.
You're preaching to the choir."
Do you remember those words? - Um.
- Do you remember those words?
- Were you upset with Lisa for bringing it onto the show?
- The only one who it hurts here is me.
I'm the one who gets ----ed!