SuChin: LAST TIME ON "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL"...
COME SIT RIGHT HERE. SIT HERE.
I DON'T WANT TO PROMISE YOU SOMETHING
THAT ENDS UP NOT WORKING
BECAUSE OF CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND MY CONTROL.
I WAS SO VERY PRESENT WHEN THE TWO OF THEM
WERE MOURNING THE RELATIONSHIP LOSS.
THIS IS LIKE THE NEW BEGINNING. THE PAST IS GONE.
IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO, LIKE, FIGURE OUT A WAY ALMOST
TO, LIKE, JUST CUT IT OFF AND JUST BE DEAD.
IT AFFECTED US SO MUCH.
IT AFFECTED THE FAMILY.
OUR RELATIONSHIPS DON'T EXIST IN VACUUMS.
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[ Voice breaks ] I THOUGHT IT WAS BECAUSE I WAS WORN OUT.
SuChin: COMING UP IN PART TWO...
HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW?
IT'S NOT THE BEST SITUATION.
IT'S ABOUT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.
[ SIGHS HEAVILY ]
AND I WAS NEVER CHASING A GIRL.
OH, THAT'S A -- THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
IT JUST IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND DOESN'T WORK.
IF IT FEELS LIKE A FAILURE.
IT HAS A LOT OF EMOTION ATTACHED TO IT.
YEAH, IT DOES. "DIVORCE" -- IT'S NEGATIVE.
THE GOAL, I THINK, HAS BEEN TO LEARN TO BE FRANK
AND STILL BE KIND. -MM.
NANCY WOULD BE LIKE, "OKAY, GET OVER YOUR CRAP."
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HELLO, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO PART TWO
OF "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL."
I AM SuChin PAK.
PREVIOUSLY, THE FAMILY DISCUSSED
ONE OF THE MOST CONTENTIOUS MOMENTS OF THE SEASON --
MERI'S PURSUIT OF HER FAMILY HOME.
Meri: MY LOAN WAS APPROVED.
Kody: YOU GOT THE DOWN PAYMENT MONEY, TOO?
NO. THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, TOO.
WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR MONEY.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT.
I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED 'CAUSE IT SEEMS VERY SELFISH TO ME.
SHE CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE REST OF THE FAMILY.
SuChin: IT'S TEARING THE FAMILY APART.
WOULD YOU HAVE TAKEN A STEP BACK?
THIS ONE WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
I NEVER THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD INVESTMENT.
SO, ARE YOU GOOD WITH ME?
AND NOW ON PART TWO...
AT THE TIME, IT WAS, LIKE, ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT --
I HAVE A MUCH BIGGER PICTURE TO DEAL WITH,
AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS
THAT JUST REALLY IS MORE LIKE AN IRRITATION TO ME.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT TO ME
AND DIDN'T PASS MY SNIFF TEST.
AND I'M JUST LIKE, "MERI, YOU DO YOUR THING, AND YOU CAN DO IT."
AT THE TIME, VERY DIFFERENT VIEW.
SO, ARE YOU GOOD WITH ME?
YOU ARE LIVING HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.
WE DIDN'T KNOW, MERI.
AND AS MUCH AS YOU SAID IT, WE DIDN'T KNOW.
WE'RE HERE FLAGSTAFF,
AND THE B&B IS WHERE YOUR MOTHER LIVES.
IN A NUTSHELL, IT ALWAYS LOOKED LIKE, TO ME,
THAT YOU WERE GOING TO LEAVE.
THAT'S WHY YOU WERE FRUSTRATED WITH THE WHOLE THING?
I'M JUST NOW UNDERSTANDING THIS.
WELL, NOT JUST THAT. I THOUGHT IT WAS A BAD INVESTMENT.
SO AT THE TIME, THERE WERE OTHER FACTORS INVOLVED AS WELL.
SO YOU WERE LOOKING AT IT VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN I WAS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY...
I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE WORKED THIS OUT.
YOU WERE LOOKING AT IT AS,
"I'VE GOT TO GET THIS BACK IN MY FAMILY."
I WAS LOOKING AT IT AS...
"MERI'S LOOKING FOR AN OUT."
AND IF SHE'S NOT, IT'S STILL A REALLY BAD INVESTMENT,
IS HOW I VIEWED IT. -SuChin: RIGHT.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S INTERESTING, THOUGH,
THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMING TO EVEN MORE CLARITY AROUND IT,
YOU KNOW, AS YOU CONTINUE TO PEEL BACK THE LAYERS
IN THIS NEW SPACE, RIGHT?
WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE MEETING WITH YOU.
SHE JUST SAID, "OH, I'M HEARING SOMETHING,"
YOU KNOW, "IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
WE SAY IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
WE'VE DISCUSSED. WE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE.
-YOU THOUGHT THAT I WAS... -Kody: AT THE TIME...
YOU REALLY THOUGHT THAT I WAS LEAVING?
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WANTING IT?
IT'S SO FUNNY BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
'CAUSE I SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER TO THEM,
"THAT'S NOT WHY I'M GETTING IT," YOU KNOW?
SO... -SuChin: YEAH.
BUT AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS TENSION IN THE FAMILY.
THERE WAS STRESS IN THE FAMILY.RIGHT.
WE WERE SORT OF STRUGGLING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND SO, MAYBE YOU WERE SAYING THAT,
BUT, LIKE, ON A RELATIONSHIP LEVEL, YOU FELT DISTANT.
SO MAYBE THAT JUST KIND OF WAS LIKE,
"OKAY, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN EXACTLY?"
[ SIGHS ]
LET'S PUT THIS TO BED NOW. I'M GLAD SHE HAS IT.
IT'S IN THE FAMILY.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WAS A GREAT INVESTMENT...
[ LAUGHTER ]BUT IT WAS VERY SPECIAL TO HER.
HE STILL HAS TO HAVE --
HE STILL HAS TO HAVE HIS, LIKE --
HE STILL HAS THE LAST WORD.
YOU KNOW, I GOT TO PROTECT MY --JUST DROP IT, MAN. DROP IT.
THAT'S NOT THE "LAST WORD" ISSUE.
THE "LAST WORD" ISSUE IS THAT
I'M GLAD SHE HAS IT IN THE FAMILY,
AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE IN FLAGSTAFF.
MERI AND CHRISTINE, YOU HAD SOME TENSION
THAT YOU WORKED OUT IN THE WAKE OF AXEL'S BIRTH.
WE ALL GO TO SEE IT FIRSTHAND... -YEAH.
...SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.
IT'S THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING.
[ LAUGHTER ]
Meri: SHORTLY AFTER MADISON HAD AXEL,
CHRISTINE ASKED ME TO COME OVER TO HER HOUSE
TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER,
AND IT WAS KIND OF A HARD CONVERSATION.
SO, MY THING IS, IS I'M JUST GONNA BE
COMPLETELY HONEST WITH YOU.
YOU BRING A LOT OF BAGGAGE WHEN YOU COME IN THE ROOM,
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
SHE WAS PRETTY DIRECT.
MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TOO DIRECT.
SO I'M ASKING HER TO COME OVER TODAY
SO WE CAN KIND OF CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION.
LIKE, I THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT IT, AFTER.
I RECOGNIZED THAT...
YOU WERE COMING FROM A PLACE OF,
LIKE, WANTING TO HELP AND HEAL
AND, YOU KNOW, WORK TOWARDS STUFF.
I SAID SO MANY THINGS WRONG. I DIDN'T MEAN THEM WRONG.
I ONLY MEAN TO COME FROM A PLACE OF KINDNESS.
I MEAN, YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH ME AROUND.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO FROM HERE EITHER. I DON'T KNOW.
WE USED TO HAVE, LIKE, SO MUCH FUN TOGETHER.
LIKE, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT EVEN HAPPENED TO ALL OF THAT.
LIKE, WE USED TO HANG OUT AND HAVE FUN AND LAUGH AND BE CRAZY,
AND I KNOW HOW TO LAUGH AND BE CRAZY AND HAVE FUN.
I DO THAT WITH MY FRIENDS.
YEAH, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR FRIENDS.
YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH ME.
I MEAN, WE WERE FRIENDS FOR A LONG TIME.
BACK IN UTAH... WHEN WE LIVED IN UTAH.
YEAH, IT WAS IN UTAH.
WHEN I SHUT DOWN ON EVERYBODY, NOT JUST YOU.
AND SO YOU JUST KINDA PULLED AWAY.
FROM EVERYTHING, FROM EVERYBODY.
A SISTER-WIFE RELATIONSHIP IS SUPER TRICKY
BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO BE BEST FRIENDS WITH A WOMAN
WHO HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR HUSBAND.
IF I'M HAVING A BAD DAY WITH KODY,
THE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO SEE IS
HIM HAVING A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.
I WANT TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP
WITH ALL OF YOU GUYS,
WITH KODY, WITH THE KIDS.
I LOOK AT THE FAMILY AS ME BEING THE COMMON DENOMINATOR
OF THE PROBLEMS.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO, LIKE, BE HERE AND, LIKE,
MAKE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO WORK ON THESE RELATIONSHIPS.
YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE ALL THE TIME.
TOTALLY OUT ON THE OUTSIDE.
I FEEL LIKE IT, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE.
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I CAN TELL MERI EVERY DAY
THAT, "YOU HAVE A PLACE IN THIS FAMILY."
BUT UNTIL SHE BELIEVES SHE HAS A PLACE IN THE FAMILY,
SHE NEVER WILL.
I JUST LOVE FILMING CONVERSATIONS.
YOU GET TO LIVE IT, AND THEN REWATCH IT
OVER AND OVER, AND IT NEVER GOES AWAY.
-SuChin: NO, IT DOESN'T, BUT... -IT'S OKAY.
...YOU GUYS HAD SOME STUFF THAT WAS BREWING UNDERNEATH
FROM YEARS AGO THAT, WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP,
AND THEN SUDDENLY THAT CAME UP, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT TIME...
SO HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW WITH, AF--
WATCHING THIS CONVERSATION AND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE TODAY?
HECK, WE HATE WATCHING THAT CONVERSATION.
ARE YOU KIDDING? WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THINGS, HONESTLY.
IT'S NOT THE BEST SITUATION. IT'S NOT.
EVEN IF WE WERE COMPLETELY OVER IT AND BETTER,
WATCHING THINGS LIKE THAT ALWAYS BRINGS IT BACK UP AGAIN.
WHAT ABOUT YOU, MERI?
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LIKE, THROWING AWAY.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, WHEN ARE WE BOTH GONNA BE READY
TO, LIKE, MOVE TOWARD SOMETHING DIFFERENT?
WHEN YOU HAD CHRISTINE COME OVER AGAIN,
YOU HAD A REAL VULNERABLE MOMENT IN THERE, WHEN YOU WERE LIKE,
"AM I THE FACTOR THAT'S BREAKING DOWN IN THIS?"
WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THAT?
BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A REAL SORT OF, LIKE,
OPEN MOMENT THERE.
IT'S HARD TO FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW?
AND I DEFINITELY DO FEEL LIKE THAT AT TIMES.
AND I HAVE -- LIKE, I KNOW MY...
PROBABLY MY BIGGEST FAULT IN MY PERSONALITY
IS WHERE, LIKE, IF I'M NOT ALL IN,
I'M GONNA PULL AWAY AND BE ALL OUT. YOU KNOW?
THAT'S A THING THAT I HAVE TO WORK ON, MYSELF.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT IN SOME WAYS,
I'M LIKE, WHO UNDERSTANDS YOU BETTER THAN HER?
AND VICE VERSA.
-IT'S TRUE. -NOT ANYBODY.
-IT'S TRUE. -YEAH.
THEY HAVE THE SAME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SAME MAN.
[ LAUGHTER ] -PROBABLY NOT.
WELL, IT GOES DEEPER THAN THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW...
I MEAN, SHE'S --
HONESTLY, CHRISTINE HAS SEEN ME AT MY BEST AND AT MY WORST.
SHE REALLY HAS.
I WANT TO SORT OF OPEN IT UP TO YOU, AS WELL,
BECAUSE I THINK, AS WE ALL TALKED ABOUT,
WHETHER IT'S UPS OR DOWNS,
IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE UNIT, YOU KNOW?
AND THAT'S WHAT'S KIND OF AMAZING
AND ALSO COMPLICATED ABOUT IT.
WHEN I WATCH THE CONVERSATIONS,
I FEEL LIKE I'M LOOKING IN
ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT MY BUSINESS, FIRST OF ALL.
AND THEN, I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE, OH, WOW --
YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO HAVE
AN AWKWARD CONVERSATION A SISTER WIFE,
AND TO HAVE, LIKE, SOMETHING WHERE
YOU WANT TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE
AND YOU WANT TO FIND THAT RESOLUTION,
BUT YOU'RE NOT QUITE THERE, AND SO IT'S STILL QUITE --
IT'S STILL KIND OF LIKE... [ GROANS ]
JUST A LITTLE BIT -- STILL JUST A LITTLE BIT AWKWARD,
AND I'M JUST LIKE -- AND I JUST SIT THERE AND GO,
I HOPE THEY CAN KIND OF FIGURE IT OUT AND STUFF,
'CAUSE I KNOW HOW UNCOMFORTABLE A RELATIONSHIP
CAN BE WITH A SISTER WIFE WHEN YOU'RE NOT QUITE JIVING.
BEING IN THIS RELATIONSHIP,
HOW DO YOU FIND THE DELICATE BALANCE
BETWEEN FULLY EXPRESSING YOURSELF
AND YET ALSO HOLDING THE GROUP'S INTENTION?
IS THAT TRICKY? -YOU KNOW WHAT?
THIS ACTUALLY IS SOMETHING I WISH
I COULD SIT THERE AND TEACH TO OTHER PEOPLE SO MUCH,
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND US
BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE,
"NO, YOU SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT YOURSELF,"
AND THEY'RE ALWAYS LIKE CHEERING FOR ONE OF US
WHEN WE'RE, LIKE, STEPPING OUT
AND WE'RE NOT QUITE JIVING WITH THE FAMILY.
"YEAH, YOU GO! YOU GO LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF!"
AND I GET REALLY FRUSTRATED WITH THAT
BECAUSE OUR FAMILY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
AND, YEAH, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALITY AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
BUT, LIKE, WE CHOSE TO BE IN THIS FAMILY
TO BE IN THIS AS A GROUP AND TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM,
AND WE BELIEVE WE'RE IN THIS FOR ETERNITY KIND OF A THING.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT,
WE HAVE THE TWO THAT WE'RE BALANCING CONSTANTLY,
AND I THINK THE LONGER WE GO WITH IT,
THE MORE WE REALIZE THAT THE GROUP INTEREST
ACTUALLY SERVES US AS WELL, SERVES US PERSONALLY AS WELL.
WHEN WE COME BACK...
I SAW A LOT OF BAD SISTER WIFE RELATIONSHIPS.
-THAT'S CREEPY. -THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
LIKE, STAY AWAY FROM HIM. HE'S NOT HUSBAND MATERIAL.
Meri: IT WOULD BE GREAT IF ANY OF OUR KIDS
WANTED TO START A PLURAL FAMILY.
ASPYN'S NOT OPEN TO IT.
I WOULD BE.
WELCOME BACK TO "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL."
I'M SuChin PAK.
ALL RIGHT, PLURAL MARRIAGE.
YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE,
A VERY DAUNTING LIFE TO CHOOSE.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT LEGALLY RECOGNIZED
IN THE UNITED STATES. AND THEN, OF COURSE,
THERE ARE THESE INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS.
SO I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK BACK AT THIS YEAR
AND SEE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SAID ABOUT IT.
SO TAKE A LOOK. -OH, WOW.
YOU MEAN THAT NOT ALL POLYGAMISTS MOVE TO LAS VEGAS
TO GET AWAY FROM THE LAW?
[ LAUGHTER ]I-I'M TEASING.
OUR CHURCH CULTURE TEACHES THAT WOMEN CAN CHOOSE WHO THEY MARRY.
IT'S OKAY FOR A YOUNG LADY TO APPROACH A FAMILY.
YOU KNOW, MARRIED MEN GOING OUT LOOKING FOR WIVES,
IT JUST -- IT'S ACTUALLY FROWNED UPON.
I MEAN, THERE'S EXAMPLES THAT WE HAD WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER,
WHERE WE WOULD LOOK AT OTHER SISTER WIVES
AND THEIR RELATIONSHIPS, AND, LIKE --
AFTER MY GRANDPA DIED AND ALL OF HIS WIVES JUST KINDA
GROUPED TOGETHER AND BECAME BEST FRIENDS,
I LOVED IT. IT WAS, LIKE, A HUGE EXAMPLE
OF WHY I WANTED TO LIVE A PLURAL MARRIAGE.
ONE OF THE MOST HEARTBREAKING THINGS
IS WHEN A WOMAN COMES INTO TOWN
AND SHE WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FAMILY STRUCTURE.
SHE ONLY WANTS TO BE MARRIED TO THE MAN, AND DOESN'T WANT
ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OTHER WIVES.
AS A FAMILY IN PLURAL MARRIAGE,
WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH EACH OTHER
THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE,
THAT WE'RE ALL HELPING.
THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN.
I SAW A LOT OF BAD SISTER WIFE RELATIONSHIPS,
YOU KNOW, AS I WAS GROWING UP AND IN MY CHURCH.
THE ONES THAT WERE BAD WERE REALLY SCARY.
AND THE ONES THAT ARE GOOD ARE, LIKE...
THEY SEEM SORT OF TRANSCENDENT.
THEY SEEM VERY, LIKE, ADVANCED
IN THE WAY THAT THEY THINK AND FEEL,
AND IT WAS SOMETHING TO LOOK UP TO.
BUT IT'S REALLY EASY TO -- TO FALL SHORT.
Christine: I LOVE THE FAMILY, I LOVE MY SISTER WIVES.
WOULD I CHANGE IT? NO.
NO, NO, NO, NO. I WOULDN'T CHANGE IT.
BUT I REALLY LIKE BEING PUBLIC NOW, I'M JUST SAYING.
I REALLY LIKE BEING A WIFE EVERYWHERE I GO.
Janelle: LOOK, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME UP TO ME AND ASK ME
IF THEY SHOULD LIVE PLURAL MARRIAGE,
I WOULD SAY "ABSOLUTELY."
BUT I WILL TELL YOU, THE FIRST...
5 YEARS, 10 YEARS, MAYBE 20 YEARS,
I DON'T KNOW, ARE NOT GONNA BE REALLY GREAT.
ON THE BAD DAYS, I REALLY STRUGGLE WITH PLURAL MARRIAGE.
ON THE BAD DAYS, I REALLY WONDER WHY WE'RE IN IT.
Meri: I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF ANY OF OUR KIDS
WANTED TO START A PLURAL FAMILY.
IF THAT'S WHAT THEY THOUGH THEIR PATH WAS?
GREAT. -ASPYN'S NOT OPEN TO IT.
I WOULD BE, UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES.
SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO...
Christine: SHE'S ALL...
...GO TO ASPYN FIRST
BEFORE I WOULD REALLY EVER CONSIDER IT.
I DON'T THINK I'M EVER GONNA THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR US, SO...
I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL DO.
SHE COUNTED TO THREE.
SuChin: YEAH. [ LAUGHS ]
BUT, IF ASPYN GETS ANY INSPIRATION
ON THAT SUBJECT MATTER, YOU KNOW,
MITCH IS KIND OF IN A POSITION THERE WHERE SHE'S LIKE,
"MM, I'M NOT REALLY AGREEING TO THIS."
ASPYN ALWAYS SAID, "WHATEVER HAPPENS, HAPPENS."
YOU KNOW, IF SHE'S GOING TO HAVE --
YOU KNOW, LIVE IN PLURAL MARRIAGE,
THEN SHE'S GONNA LIVE IN PLURAL MARRIAGE,
AND SHE'S ALWAYS SAID THAT.
BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE
IS THAT SHE'S SO WHUPPED OVER THAT BOY.
SHE IS SO SMITTEN. SO RIGHT NOW, SHE'S LIKE, "MNH-MNH!"
WELL, YEAH, NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT PLURAL MARRIAGE
WHEN THEY JUST FOUND THEIR SWEETHEART.
Christine: RIGHT.
MITCH IS LIKE, "WELL, I'M NOT CLOSING THE DOOR,
BUT THIS IS..."
I MEAN, SHE HAS THE TO BE THE VEHICLE IN SUCH A WAY.
AND I WAS NEVER "CHASING" A GIRL.
YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S THE VERY BIGGEST...
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT, LIKE, A FAMILY COULD DO,
IS HAVE THE WIFE BE THE INSTIGATOR.
'CAUSE WHEN YOU START HAVING THE HUSBAND BE THE INSTIGATOR,
IT JUST IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND DOESN'T WORK.
CREEPY.
WHEN YOU SAID THAT, I WAS LIKE, "OH! THAT'S A --
THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE," FRAMING IT THAT WAY, ISN'T IT?
-YES, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. -GUYS LOOKING FOR WIVES?
THAT'S CREEPY. -YEAH, BUT IT HAPPENS.
BUT IT DOES HAPPEN THAT WAY? OR NOT REALLY?
SURE, IT HAPPENS.
IT'S DISCOURAGED, HEAVILY DISCOURAGED IN OUR CULTURE.
NO, NO. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR CHURCH,
THERE ARE MEN IN OUR CHURCH,
THAT YOUNG WOMEN WILL STAY AWAY FROM
BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE SEARCHERS.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE LOOKING FOR WIVES.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF PARIAH IN A LOT OF THESE...
THE WOMEN THAT AREN'T MARRIED, THEY'RE LIKE,
"OKAY, THAT GUY? NO.
"HE'S LEFT HIS WIFE AT HOME,
"HE'S HERE AT THIS SOCIAL GATHERING,
"HE'S LOOKING FOR ANOTHER WIFE, LIKE, STAY AWAY FROM HIM.
HE'S NOT HUSBAND MATERIAL."
THAT'S ACTUALLY HOW THEY THINK IN OUR CULTURE.
YEAH.
IF SHE SEES ME LOOKING AT A GIRL,
SHE MIGHT GO... [ CHUCKLES ] OR, "HEY!"
BUT THAT'S ON HER.
IF SHE -- IF SHE GOES, "I LIKE HER. WHAT DO YOU THINK?"
THEN I'LL GO, "UH..."
-SuChin: YEAH. -[ LAUGHING ]
SuChin: MAYBE.
-IS THAT A QUESTION? -IT HAPPENED. IT HAPPENED.
MERI ELBOWED ME AND GOES... [ LAUGHS ] "SHE'S CUTE, HUH?"
AND I WENT... [ GROANS ]
[ LAUGHTER ]
SHE WAS RIGHT. I GOT PRAYERFUL ABOUT IT.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, I KNEW.
I KNEW BEFORE SHE KNEW, BUT SHE KNEW BEFORE I KNEW.
BUT IT HAD TO REALLY COME FROM HER IN DRIVING THAT.
THERE WAS NO OTHER WAY THAT THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
I MEAN, WHERE DO YOU LEARN THIS STUFF?
DO YOU GO TO... IS THERE A CLASS?
LIKE, IS THERE A PAMPHLET? -"POLYGAMY FOR DUMMIES," RIGHT?
Kody: THEY GREW UP IN THE CULTURE, YOU KNOW?
-NO CLASS. -IN LIVING PLURAL MARRIAGE,
WE JUST REALLY ARE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER, GOING,
"OKAY, WE'RE MAKING THIS WORK BUT THIS IS CRAZY."
BUT WE ARE NOT IN ANY WAY RECOMMENDING PLURAL MARRIAGE.
-DON'T TRY IT AT HOME. -Kody: DON'T TRY IT AT HOME.
WE JUST WANT TO BE ALLOWED TO DO IT OURSELVES, YOU KNOW?
JANELLE, YOU SAID SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT HOW
THE FIRST 5, 10, 20... -[ LAUGHING ]
Christine: THAT SO FUNNY!
SO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY --
SO HOW HAVE THE LAST FIVE YEARS BEEN FOR YOU?
THEY BEEN OKAY? -YEAH, RIGHT?
'CAUSE KODY AND I HAVE BEEN NOW MARRIED 25 YEARS.
AH, 26. 26 YEARS.
I THINK IT'S JUST DAY BY DAY.
'CAUSE EVERY FIVE YEARS, OR EVERY YEAR, YOU'RE LIKE,
"WOW, LOOK AT ALL THAT, THAT WE LEARNED OR WE DID."
IT'S ALWAYS AN EVOLUTION.
IT'S A CONSTANT LEARNING PROCESS.
YOU'RE WORKING OUT -- BASICALLY, YOU'RE WORKING YOUR STUFF OUT.
WE'RE WORKING OUT THE PROBLEM IN THE GRIND
OF THE CAULDRON OF MARRIAGE AND LOVE, YOU KNOW?
YEAH, YOU'RE BEING REAL. YOU'RE BEING REAL.
AND SO, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT REALLY IS KINDA LIKE,
UP AND DOWN, AND UP AND DOWN, AND WHEN YOU LOOK BACK
IT'S LIKE, WOW, THAT'S A HECK OF AN ADVENTURE.
WATCHING IT, ANYONE THAT'S IN AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP
WITH ANYONE IS LIKE,
"MM-HMM, THAT'S RIGHT, 25, 30 -- KEEP GOIN', JANELLE," YOU KNOW?
YEAH.
POLYGAMY IS NOT CRIMINALIZED EVERYWHERE,
BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T LEGAL ANYWHERE IN U.S.
AND, CERTAINLY, THE MOMENT THAT SORT OF
PINPOINTED THAT IN THIS SEASON WAS WHEN,
CHRISTINE, YOU HAD LOOKED AT A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE.
-YEAH, WASN'T THAT CRAZY? -AND IT CAUGHT YOU BY --
IT CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD. IT CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD, YEAH.
SO, I WANT TO ASK YOU,
WHAT DOES A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE MEAN?
'CAUSE I THINK IT COULD MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS FOR EVERYONE.
I LIKE THE VALIDATION OF BEING JUST MARRIED.
I JUST LIKE IT.
AND FOR YEARS, LIKE, WE WERE JUST QUIET.
WE WERE JUST UNDER THE RADAR AND STUFF,
AND WE WEREN'T A COUPLE EVERYWHERE WE WENT
AND WE WEREN'T MARRIED EVERYWHERE WE WENT.
AND SO IT HAS BEEN AWESOME BEING A WIFE EVERYWHERE I GO.
FOR ME, I LOOK AT IT RETROSPECTIVELY AND I SAY,
A LEGAL MARRIAGE WAS NECESSARY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO --
FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO ADOPT ROBYN'S CHILDREN.
YEAH. ROBYN, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PAPER?
UM...
CHRISTINE BROUGHT IT UP, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW
IF I HAVE MY PIECE OF PAPER. -SuChin: YEAH.
Kody: YEAH, WE HAVE PEOPLE COME UP TO US ALL THE TIME.
THEY GO TO THE WIVES AND, LIKE, THEY WANT TO KNOW THE ORDER.
THEY WANT TO KNOW WHO HAS THE LEGITIMACY OUT OF THE FOUR.
ONCE AGAIN -- -I NEVER SAY IT.
I SAY, "ONE OF US HAS A LEGAL MARRIAGE."
I NEVER TELL THEM WHO. -YEAH.
-'CAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER. -'CAUSE THEY PUT A STIGMA...
CULTURE OUTSIDE OF US PUTS A STIGMA ON US
AND SAYS SOMEBODY, WHOEVER HAS THE LEGAL MARRIAGE LICENSE,
HAS SOMETHING MORE THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.
SuChin: ON THE FLIP SIDE, WE HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER
THAT SAYS YOU'RE DIVORCED.
WHAT DOES THAT PIECE OF PAPER MEAN TO ALL OF YOU GUYS?
AND I WANT TO START WITH MERI,
AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO THE GROUP.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY,
AND FOR ME, LIKE, SOME DAYS
EMOTIONALLY, IT FEELS LIKE A FAILURE.
IT'S A LABEL OF A FAILURE.
IT'S SORT OF LIKE THAT PIECE OF PAPER, AGAIN,
IT KIND OF LEAVES IT OPEN FOR SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THE FAMILY...
-TO JUDGE. MM-HMM. YEAH. -...TO JUDGE, RIGHT?
'CAUSE IT'S BOTH WAYS, RIGHT?
BOTH PIECES OF PAPER... -IT'S DEFINITELY OPEN JUDGMENT.
IN THIS SITUATION, IT'S NOT.
BUT IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE LABELS THAT...
IT'S A STRONG WORD.
IT HAS A LOT OF EMOTION ATTACHED TO IT.
YEAH, IT DOES. "DIVORCE" -- IT'S NEGATIVE.
FOR THIS FAMILY, AND CERTAINLY FOR YOU GUYS,
THAT PIECE OF PAPER DOESN'T HAVE THAT NEGATIVE STIGMA ATTACHED
BECAUSE IT ALLOWED YOU TO SORT OF CREATE THIS FAMILY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING MERI THE OTHER DAY.
I WAS LIKE, "YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, IT MEANS FAILURE.
"'YOU'RE DIVORCED' IS...
THAT MEANS YOU LOVE MY KIDS."
YEAH.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING
IT'S NOT THE SITUATION IN OUR FAMILY --
IT'S JUST A LABEL THAT PEOPLE PUT ON IT, YOU KNOW?
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROBYN HERE
AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT HER FACE,
IF YOU DON'T SEE YOUR RIGHTFUL PLACE IN THAT LOVE,
THEN, WELL, YOU CAN JUST EXIT THE CONVERSATION.
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET IT. -RIGHT?
COMING UP NEXT...
Meri: SHE KIND OF WAS FRUSTRATED,
AND IT CAUSED SOME TENSION BETWEEN THE TWO OF US
DURING THIS WHOLE CATFISHING SITUATION.
Mariah: SHE'S TRYING TO GET ME TO SEE
THAT SHE'S COMPLETELY THE VICTIM.
[ SIGHS HEAVILY ]
FOR YOU, IT'S ABOUT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.
I LOVE HER, BUT THINGS HAVE BEEN HARD.
AND LATER...
PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A FULFILLING LIFE
OUTSIDE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP AND THEIR MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP
DON'T VERY OFTEN HAVE A FULFILLING LIFE
INSIDETHEIR RELATIONSHIP.
THE GOAL, I THINK, HAS BEEN TO LEARN TO BE FRANK.
"IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE A PLURAL FAMILY
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE DYSFUNCTIONAL."
"POLYGAMY IS YOUR PROBLEM."
Robyn: "YEAH, POLYGAMY IS YOUR PROBLEM."
Woman: WHAT ARE YOU MOST LOOKING FORWARD TO TALKING ABOUT TODAY?
Janelle: YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LIKED TALKING ABOUT OUR KIDS,
BECAUSE I'M SUPER PROUD OF THEM
AND THE HUMAN BEINGS THEY'VE BECOME AND ARE BECOMING.
SO THAT'S A NO-BRAINER. THAT'S EASY.
I'LL TALK ALL DAY LONG TO THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIKE,
"OKAY, I HEARD ENOUGH, I HEARD ENOUGH."
-Mykelti: QUIET ON SET! -OH.
-SuChin: OH, SORRY. -Mariah: OH, OH.
SORRY, I JUST WANTED SEE IF THEY'D KEEP QUIET.
-SHE'S HARD. -SHE'S JUDGING US.
Man: ALL RIGHT, QUIET, PLEASE!
EVERYBODY SETTLED?
WELCOME BACK TO "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL."
I'M SuCHIN PAK, HERE IN FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA,
WITH THE ADULT BROWN KIDS.
I LIKE SAYING THAT WITH GRAVITAS.
-I LIKE IT. -HI, EVERYONE.
-HI. -HI.
IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOUR FACES AND MEET YOU.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.
SO, OBVIOUSLY BIG MOVE THIS YEAR.
YOU GUYS DIDN'T ACTUALLY MOVE HERE TO FLAGSTAFF,
BUT IT AFFECTS ALL OF THE FAMILY DYNAMICS.
AND I WANT TO START WITH YOU GUYS, MADDIE AND CALEB.
YOU MOVED TO VEGAS TO BE WITH YOUR FAMILY.
YES. MM.
TELL ME SORT OF ABOUT YOUR REACTION TO THAT
AND HOW THAT HIT YOU AT FIRST.
WELL, I THINK THAT WE DIDN'T BELIEVE IT WAS REAL,
'CAUSE MY PARENTS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT MOVING.
AND THEN THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT, LIKE, OF, LIKE, SADNESS
AND, LIKE, "WHY ARE YOU GUYS MOVING?
WE HAVE YOUR GRANDKID," YOU KNOW?
BUT I THINK IT ALSO MADE US FEEL, LIKE, OKAY --
BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE VEGAS,
IT'S JUST NOT SOMEWHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL HOME.
SO IT MADE US, LIKE, "OKAY, WELL, IF YOU GUYS ARE LEAVING,
THEN WE'RE GONNA LEAVE, TOO."
DID YOU GUYS ALL FEEL THAT VEGAS WAS NOT HOME?
-YEAH. -SuChin: NO ONE FELT THAT?
-YEAH. -MM-HMM.
SuChin: ANYONE IN THE FAMILY FELT LIKE VEGAS WAS HOME?
-I, ACTUALLY, I -- -YEAH.
-YOU'RE LIKE, "WELL..." -YEAH.
I'M VERY MUCH ALL ABOUT MAKING WHEREVER YOU ARE WORK
AND MAKING WHEREVER YOU ARE FEEL LIKE HOME.
AND IT FELT LIKE HOME TO ME FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS.
SO IT WAS KIND OF A SHOCK TO ME
THAT IT WASN'T HOME FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
WE HAVE ALWAYS MOVED AROUND A LITTLE BIT,
AND SO WE'RE KIND OF USED TO IT. -Mariah: YEAH.
SO ANYWHERE THE FAMILY MOVES IS WHERE HOME IS.
-YEAH. -YEAH.
WE FELT THAT DURING THE SEASON, YOU SORT OF TOOK CONTROL,
YOU KNOW, OF YOUR COURTSHIP. YOU SORT OF HAD A PRESENCE.
I'D LIKE TO SAY "A WOMAN COMING INTO HER OWN."
DO YOU LIKE THAT? -YEAH.
YES, I DO, THAT'S NICE.
BUT QUIETLY AND VERY RESPECTFULLY,
AND I THINK WATCHING IT WAS REALLY INSPIRING,
SO WE PUT A LITTLE CLIP TOGETHER.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
WE'RE NOT FORCED TO NOT TALK ABOUT THE MOVE.
WE'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO NOT STRESS OUT ABOUT THE MOVE.
Christine: I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT MINIMAL.
NO, NO, NO. WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT ME.
ASPYN MET MITCH, LIKE, NINE YEARS AGO,
AND SHE WAS NOT ON HIS RADAR AT ALL.
AND THEN ABOUT NINE MONTHS AGO, ASPYN CALLED MITCH,
AND SHE WAS IMMEDIATELY ON HIS RADAR AT THAT POINT.
HE'S MOVING TO VEGAS TO BE WITH ME.
[ LAUGHTER ]
-WHAT DID YOU SAY? -WHOO!
SO YOU'RE GONNA DO LONGER OR REALLY SLOW?
-WELL, JUST FOR NOW. -OH, OKAY. [ LAUGHS ]
-AW. -AW.
IT'S STILL A BIT OF A PECK, BUT BETTER.
I GET STRESSED OUT ABOUT THE WHOLE IDEA AND --
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT FLAGSTAFF
DURING THIS WEEKEND, ACTUALLY.
YES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK, LIKE, IF ALL THE MOMS ARE AVAILABLE,
WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE MOMS HERE.
CAN YOU DO THAT, PLEASE? -YOU WANT THEM ALL HERE?
-YES, I DO. -OKAY.
Christine: FOR HER TO ASK US ALL TO HELP HER PUT ON THE DRESS
WAS SO SWEET. -Meri: IT WAS REALLY SWEET.
YOU'RE GONNA LOSE IT WHEN YOU SEE HER.
â™ªâ™ª
[ LAUGHS ] I LOVE YOU.
-[ CRYING ] -[ LAUGHING ]
â™ªâ™ª
Mitch: SHE LOOKED SO AMAZING,
AND I WAS JUST SO HAPPY AND JUST COULDN'T WAIT.
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
SuChin: ASPYN, YOU'RE GETTING MARRIED
AND YOU'RE TAKING SORT OF MORE OWNERSHIP OF YOUR VOICE,
AND YOU AS A WOMAN NOW, DID YOU FEEL THAT?
I DEFINITELY DID SO DURING THE VENUE TOURS. I DIDN'T TAL--
LIKE, THE LAST VENUE, I BARELY EVER TALKED,
AND MITCH BARELY EVER TALKED 'CAUSE EVERYONE WAS KIND OF,
YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING ALL THEIR OPINIONS.
AND I WAS LIKE, "YOU KNOW, I GOTTA BE LOUDER."
Mariah: [ SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY ] IT'S TIME.
YES, YOU JUST HAVE TO JUST --
I HAVE TO BE ASSERTIVE AND SAY WHAT I WANT.
THIS IS OUR WEDDING, AND I WANT IT TO BE A CERTAIN WAY,
AND I NEED EVERYONE TO REALIZE THAT.
MITCH, THIS IS A FAMILY THAT HAS
SOME STRONG WOMEN
AND VOCAL WOMEN AND WOMEN WITH OPINIONS.
IS THAT INTIMIDATING OR IS THAT TRICKY TO NAVIGATE OR DEAL WITH?
NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH.
I JUST KIND OF GO ALONG WITH THE FLOW,
AND IT'S REALLY NOT A PROBLEM.
TONY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
I THINK IT'S REFRESHING.
-YEAH? -YES.
Mariah: I LOVE THAT. I LOVE THAT ANSWER.
EXPAND ON THAT. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?
IT'S JUST NICE TO SEE.
I MEAN, WHEN I MET CHRISTINE -- HERE'S AN EXAMPLE --
SHE WAS JUST LIKE, "YOU KNOW WHAT?
I CAN DRIVE ANYTHING. WATCH ME DRIVE A SEMI THROUGH YOUR FACE."
[ LAUGHTER ]YEAH, AND I WAS LIKE, "OKAY."
-OKAY. -"THAT'S COOL."
Mykelti: ALL RIGHT.
AND IT'S JUST NOT -- IT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHERE I GREW UP,
WHERE ALL THE GIRLS ARE A LOT MORE,
"NO, YOUHAVE TO DRIVE."
IT'S REFRESHING. IT'S NICE.
CALEB, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MARRYING INTO A FAMILY
WITH VERY STRONG FEMALE VOICES?
I THINK IT'S AWESOME, ACTUALLY, TO BE HONEST.
'CAUSE, AT LEAST, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE,
I ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY ARE THINKING
INSTEAD OF ME TRYING FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE THINKING.
I DON'T -- -OH, THE MIND-READING THING.
YEAH, I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT THAT.
I HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT YOU GUYS CAN'T MIND RE-- RIGHT, OKAY.
-YEAH, YEAH. -OKAY, MENTAL NOTE, YEAH.
I DON'T MINCE WORDS, SO I'LL BE LIKE,
"THIS IS WHY I'M MAD -- A, B, AND C --
AND YOU NEED TO FIX IT," SO...
AND I LOVE IT, BECAUSE IF I MARRIED SOMEBODY
THAT DIDN'T TELL ME THEIR OPINION OR ANYTHING,
I'D BE BORED, ACTUALLY, TO BE HONEST.
SO WHEN SHE'S LIKE, "LISTEN, THIS IS WHAT I THINK,"
IT'S LIKE, "ALL RIGHT, THAT'S AWESOME.
GOOD. THANK YOU."
ALL RIGHT, SO, MARIAH, YOUR MOM'S CATFISHING...
-[ SIGHS HEAVILY ] -...IT IS AND HAS BEEN
A SOURCE OF TENSION FOR YOU GUYS.
AND EVEN THIS YEAR, SHE SORT OF ALMOST NEEDED EVEN MORE CLOSURE.
RIGHT? AND SO SHE BROUGHT A FRIEND ALONG
WHO HAD ALSO BEEN CATFISHED
TO SORT OF HELP YOU SEE THE OTHER SIDE
OR GET YOU TO SEE THE OTHER SIDE.
BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THAT WENT DOWN.
PUPPY! [ GROANS ] PUPPIES.
I JUST KIND OF HAVE THESE HOPES
OF MAYBE JUST HEARING,
YOU KNOW, THIS STORY FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE,
YOU KNOW, ANOTHER PERSON THAT IT HAPPENED TO,
MAYBE IT'LL HELP HER REALLY LET GO OF IT.
SHE KIND OF WAS A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED,
AND IT CAUSED SOME TENSION BETWEEN THE TWO OF US,
YOU KNOW, DURING THIS WHOLE CATFISHING SITUATION.
I THINK THAT SHE FORGETS I WAS THERE
WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS HAPPENING,
AND I EXPLICITLY SAID TO HER, "YOU CAN BE TRICKED ONLINE,
BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE."
LIKE, EVEN RIGHT NOW, I'M GETTING KIND OF EMOTIONAL,
BECAUSE, LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO BE ANGRY AT HER.
[ SNIFFLES ] THAT'S WHY I JUST MOVED ON.
SHE'S TRYING TO GET ME TO SEE
THAT SHE'S COMPLETELY THE VICTIM.
I LOVE HER, AND I AM SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO HER,
BUT SHE'S STILL PLAYED A PART IN THIS.
OKAY, SO, WHERE DO THINGS STAND BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR MOM?
HOW ARE YOU GUYS?
LIKE, THINGS HAVE BEEN HARD, OBVIOUSLY.
THINGS AREN'T PERFECT, BUT THINGS AREN'T HORRIBLE.
LIKE, WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP,
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MATTERS.
-YEAH. -YOU KNOW?
SHE'S MY MOM, AND I LOVE HER.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BASIS OF IT, SO...
YEAH, AND I THINK IF THERE WASN'T A LOT OF LOVE
AND REACHING TOWARDS SOMETHING REALLY GREAT,
THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY TENSION.
-RIGHT. -RIGHT?
'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T REALLY CARE, THEN YOU'D BE LIKE,
"I DON'T REALLY CARE." -RIGHT.
BUT YOU DO. YOU GUYS LOVE EACH OTHER.
WHAT I WILL SAY, ACTUALLY, IS THAT SHE --
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A KID -- ONE TIME,
HER AND DAD GOT IN A FIGHT, AND I WAS JUST, LIKE, A LITTLE KID
AND LIKE, "OHH, MY PARENTS ARE IN A FIGHT.
THEY'RE GONNA GET A DIVORCE."
AND I SAID THAT TO HER, AND SHE GOES,
"WE WOULDN'T FIGHT IF WE DIDN'T LOVE EACH OTHER."
RIGHT? LIKE, IF WE DIDN'T LOVE EACH OTHER,
IT WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW?
-MM-HMM. -WE WOULD JUST BE LIKE,
"OKAY. WHATEVER." -YEAH.
AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT IS.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, I LOVE HER, AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW?
YEAH. YEAH.
DO YOU THINK THAT IT DID HELP IN SEEING HER SIDE,
HAVING HER FRIEND THERE, AND TELLING YOU,
"LISTEN, THIS HAPPENED TO ME"?
IT WASN'T SOMETHING I DIDN'T BELIEVE HAPPENED.
IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T SYMPATHIZE WITH.
SO, FOR ME, I DIDN'T REALLY NEED TO MEET HER FRIEND.
AND WHEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT, WE HAD, LIKE,
SUPPORTED THE IDEA BECAUSE WE KNEW HOW MUCH IT MEANT TO MERI
FOR US TO HEAR THAT, LIKE, SHE WAS NOT ALONE IN THIS.
YEAH. RIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING
TO BE, LIKE, REASSURED OF, LIKE, YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
RIGHT, YEAH.
LIKE, THIS IS A -- YOU KNOW? SO I FEEL LIKE THAT, LIKE,
WE WERE LIKE, "WE WILL MEET HER."
I THINK YOU DID, THOUGH, TOUCH ON A PART OF WHERE
THIS TENSION WAS, WHICH WAS THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, RIGHT,
FOR YOU, IT'S ABOUT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.
[ SIGHS HEAVILY ]
SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, I HAVE PERSONALLY FOUND A LOT OF GROWTH
FROM BEING ABLE TO SEE...
NOT EVEN WHERE I WAS WRONG NECESSARILY, JUST LIKE --
IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AN ISSUE.
IT'S LIKE "OKAY, WELL, THAT'S WHERE I WAS WRONG.
I WAS WRONG. I'VE NOW GROWN FROM THIS."
-YEAH. -AND I'VE MOVED ON.
COMING UP NEXT...
WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO CHICAGO.
WOW! THAT'S BIG!
IS THERE ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT?
MAYBE.
AND LATER...
ROBYN, JANELLE WANTS A HUG.
OH. OH, REALLY?
SHE WANTS TO -- IT'S A BIG DEAL. IT'S A BIG DEAL.
YOU GUYS LOVE EACH OTHER, YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE FINE.
RISE ABOVE IT, BE A BETTER PERSON, AND GET OVER YOUR CRAP.
WELCOME BACK TO "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL."
I'M SuCHIN PAK.
MARIAH, YOU HAD A VERY BIG YEAR.
YOU GOT INTO GRADUATE SCHOOL. YOU MOVED TO CHICAGO.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THIS BIG YEAR.
MARIAH'S PLANNING ON STARTING A MASTER'S DEGREE IN THE FALL.
AT THIS POINT, THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO,
BUT I TOLD THEM IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE
TO JUST COME HERE FOR THE SUMMER --
MAY AS WELL BE HERE, SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE FAMILY.
WE WANTED TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SUPER FUN ANNOUNCEMENT.
MY WHEELS ARE TURNING. LIKE, I'M THINKING, "WHAT COULD IT BE?
WHAT COULD IT BE?"
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT WE'RE ALL THINKING.
WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT IT'S MARRIAGE.
I'M JUST SAYING. WE'RE ALL THINKING.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL THINKING.
Kody: I HAVE ONE CONCERN
ABOUT AUDREY AND MARIAH GETTING MARRIED.
I THINK AUDREY IS THE FIRST PERSON
THAT MARIAH'S EVER DATED. JUST --
DO YOU KNOW? THAT'S ALL.
DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE THE FIRST PERSON I DATED?
YEAH, YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON I DATED, TOO.
[ LAUGHTER ]I TAKE THAT BACK.
I...I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
-I MEAN, I'M JUST -- -IT'S NOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. -IT IS KIND OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
OKAY, AFTER WE'RE HERE FOR THE SUMMER,
WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO CHICAGO.[ CHEERING ]
OKAY. [ LAUGHS ] -Janelle: YOU GOT INTO LOYOLA?
-I GOT INTO LOYOLA. -OH! YAY!
WOW! THAT'S BIG!
I KNOW YOU ALL PROBABLY THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE, BUT...
-THAT'S ONE MORE STEP... -YEP.
...IN THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. -[ LAUGHS ]
ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT WASN'T THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THEY --
THEY WERE HAPPY FOR YOU GUYS, FOR SURE.
YEAH. IT WAS A LITTLE DEAD.
-BUT THEY WERE LIKE, "OH. OKAY." -YEAH.
SuChin: SO IS THERE ANOTHERANNOUNCEMENT?
-MAYBE. -MAYBE?
-YEAH. [ LAUGHS ] -TELL US.
SO AUDREY AND I ARE ENGAGED.
YAY! THEY'RE ENGAGED OFFICIALLY!
[ GASPS ] LET'S SEE.
HAVE YOU GUYS ALL SEEN THE RING YET?
-YES. -YES.
LET'S SEE. TWIN-- AND, OKAY, DETAILS.
Mariah: I DID IT AT THE WOMEN'S MARCH
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF FIRST STARTED DATING
AND IT WAS JUST KIND OF, LIKE, A SPECIAL THING FOR BOTH OF US
SO I WANTED TO DO IT THERE.
AND IT WAS REALLY FUNNY, BECAUSE SHE ACTUALLY
KEPT TALKING THE WHOLE TIME I WAS TRYING TO PROPOSE.
SHE WAS LIKE, "I DIDN'T KNOW! I DIDN'T KNOW! I DIDN'T KNOW!"
AND THEN, LIKE, I PUT THE RING ON,
AND THEN I GOT UP AND KISSED HER
AND THEN SOMEONE'S LIKE, "DID SHE SAY 'YES'?!"
AND WE REALIZED SHE HADN'T YET.
AND THEN SHE -- -I WAS JUST GOING...
I JUST DID THIS THE WHOLE TIME.
AND THEN SHE JUST WAS NODDING THE WHOLE TIME.
LIKE, "UH-HUH, UH-HUH." -CONGRATULATIONS, YOU GUYS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
SO THERE WOULD BE, I IMAGINE, A LOT OF VIEWERS
WHO SEE THIS SORT OF AS DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED.
-MM-HMM. -RIGHT?
YOU HAVE A VERY CONSERVATIVE RELIGION,
BUT THEN YOU HAVE THIS SORT OF WORLD VIEW THAT'S LIBERAL.
Mariah: MM-HMM.
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THAT? OR HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
WELL, I'M PERSONALLY NOT VERY RELIGIOUS.
SuChin: YEAH.
IT'S MORE JUST, LIKE, KIND OF HOW I GREW UP.
SuChin: BUT EVEN YOUR FAMILY, THOUGH, YEAH.
YEAH, BUT I THINK, UM...
I MEAN, EVEN MY FAMILY, LIKE, THEY'RE JUST VERY...
-MM-HMM. -...ACCEPTING.
-YEAH. -LIKE, IT'S, LIKE,
"YOU DO YOUR THING, I'LL DO MY THING."
DOES IT EVER GET TRICKY?
I THINK GROWING UP IN THE FAMILY THAT WE DID, WE'RE SO DIFFERENT,
IT KIND OF MADE FOR US TO BE LIKE, "WELL, WHATEVER."
YOU KNOW? -YEAH.
LIKE, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR LIFE
AND YOU'RE HAPPY WHERE YOU'RE AT, YOUR LIFE IS YOUR LIFE.
IT'S NOT AFFECTING -- IF IT'S NOT AFFECTING ANYONE ELSE.
JESUS SAID LOVE EVERYONE.
-I MEAN, OUR FAMILY -- -All: JESUS SAID LOVE EVERYONE.
EXACTLY, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR DAD HAS ALWAYS SAID, SO...
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT HE'S ALWAYS -- YEAH, WE GREW UP BEING TOLD,
LIKE, THAT WE LOVE GOD AND WE LOVE OTHERS. YOU KNOW?
AND THAT'S KIND OF, LIKE, THE BASIC...
THAT'S WHAT MATTERS. -YEAH.
OKAY, SO I WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO THE GROUP
AS WE'RE WINDING DOWN THIS CONVERSATION
AND SEE JUST HOW EVERYBODY IS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I WANT TO GET TO MYKELTI AND TONY. ANY NEWS?
WHEN ARE THE BABIES COMING?[ LAUGHTER ]
ALSO, WHEN ARE THE BABIES COMING?
I'M SURE YOU GUYS GET ASKED THAT ALL THE TIME IN THIS FAMILY.
WE'RE VERY HAPPY DOG PARENTS RIGHT NOW.
YES.
SO, WE HAVE A BABY BOY NAMED SPADER.
HE'S -- HE'S LOVELY AND ADORABLE.
HE LOVES HIS MOM AND DAD. -SuChin: YEAH.
AND THAT'S, LIKE -- THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOOD RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE PROBABLY STILL A COUPLE, SEVERAL YEARS OUT FROM KIDS.
ASPYN AND MITCH, SO WHERE ARE YOU GUYS?
AND ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS OR...
WE ARE FINISHING OUT THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS IN VEGAS,
AND THEN WE'LL BE MOVING TO NORTHERN UTAH
TO BE CLOSER TO MITCH'S FAMILY.
I'M FINISHING UP SCHOOL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE HAVING FUN ENJOYING OUR FIRST YEAR TOGETHER...
-MM-HMM. MM-HMM. -...AS A MARRIED COUPLE.
AND -- AND...
THAT'S IT! CONGRATULATIONS!
YES, YES, EXACTLY. EXACTLY, YEAH.
AND YOU'RE LIKE, "THAT'S IT."
-THAT'S A LOT. -THAT'S THE WAY.
YEAH, WE DON'T -- YEAH.
MADDIE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOU GUYS?
-[ LAUGHS ] -NOTHING NEW.
NAH, NOT A LOT.
NOT A WHOLE LOT. NOTHING, REALLY.
SuChin: JUST, LIKE, A LITTLE SOMETHING?
UM, SO WE ARE MOVING TO NORTH CAROLINA.
SuChin: MM-HMM.
AND WE ARE EXPECTING OUR SECOND CHILD.
[ GIGGLES ]
SuChin: UM, THAT'S EXCITING.
CONGRATULATIONS. -THANK YOU.
WELL, THANK YOU, GUYS. IT WAS REALLY FUN TO CATCH UP.
AND THANK YOU FOR OPENING UP YOUR LIVES.
AND IT'S JUST REALLY FUN.
-THANK YOU. -SO THANK YOU.
-THANK YOU. -WHEN WE COME BACK...
I'M QUESTIONING WHETHER YOU'RE THERE WITH US EMOTIONALLY.
WE REALLY WANT TO WORK OUT THESE RELATIONSHIPS.
I THINK WE'RE ALL PRETTY VULNERABLE.
OH, YEAH.I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS LIKE THAT.
I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS MISBEHAVING.
AND JUST BE LIKE, "OH, MY GOSH." -OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
SuChin: THIS IS SUCH AN EXCITING AND INTERESTING CONVERSATION
TO BE HAVING WITH A FAMILY LIKE THE BROWNS.
PEOPLE HAVE MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT WHAT A PLURAL FAMILY LOOKS LIKE.
THE FAMILY, IT'S JUST, AT THE CORE OF IT,
THEY LOVE EACH OTHER.
AND THAT FAMILY BOND IS SOMETHING
THAT EVERYONE CAN RELATE TO.
Man: CAMERAS ARE ROLLING IN 3, 2...
WE'RE BACK WITH "SISTER WIVES TELL ALL."
I'M SuCHIN PAK.
SO CLEARLY THE RELATIONSHIPS IN A PLURAL FAMILY
HAVE TO BE WELL-TENDED.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ALL SEE A THERAPIST,
WHICH I THINK IS GREAT.
IT'S SORT OF THE BACKBONE OF THE WAY
THAT COMMUNICATION CAN HAPPEN IN A CLEAR WAY.
WE DO NOTICE THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN WAY OF SPEAKING --
A THERAPY WAY OF SPEAKING.
AND WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD SORT OF ROLL A TAPE TO SHOW...
-OH, NO. -...HOW THIS COMMUNICATION
SEES ITSELF IN YOUR GUYS' LIFE.
-TAKE A LOOK. -OH, NO.
-LOOK HOW FUNNY. -THIS SHOULD BE INTERESTING.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS HOW I FEEL.
TO ME, MY PERCEPTION, SHE COMES IN THE ROOM
AND SHE'S REALLY HEAVY.
I FELT SO EMOTIONALLY INVESTED.
I'M QUESTIONING WHETHER YOU'RE THERE WITH US EMOTIONALLY.
THE ONLY THING I CAN FIX IS ME.
SORRY FOR MY PART IN...
HOW UNSAFE IT WAS.
THAT MAKES IT A MUCH SAFER PLACE.
I WANT TO HELP YOU FEEL SAFE. YOU DIDN'T FEEL SAFE.
I JUST WANT TO BE IN A SAFE PLACE.
THE WAY THAT YOU FEEL SAFE
IS BY GETTING TO KNOW THE OTHER PERSON MORE.
WE MOVED ON, OR ARE WE STUFFING IT?
I DON'T THINK WE'RE STUFFING.
Meri: I'M LIKE, "YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M TAKING MY POWER BACK."
MERI...
FELT EMPOWERED.
PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A FULFILLING LIFE
OUTSIDE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP --
IN THEIR MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP -- DON'T...
VERY OFTEN HAVE A FULFILLING LIFE INSIDETHEIR RELATIONSHIP.
IT'S REALLY ABOUT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
ROBYN, JANELLE WANTS A HUG.
OH! OH, REALLY?
-SHE WANTS US -- -IT'S A BIG DEAL.
IT'S A BIG DEAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I DID THAT. MAYBE IT WAS REALLY --
I WAS PRACTICING MY SKILLS WITH NANCY.
LIKE, DON'T ASSUME, ASK.
AND MAYBE I WAS IN THAT REALLY GOOD PLACE. I DON'T KNOW.
[ LAUGHTER ]
THAT IS AWESOME!
LISTEN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT WAS SUPPOSED
TO BE A FUNNY SEGMENT. -OH, REALLY?
SuChin: BUT WE JUST, LIKE, GIGGLED THROUGH THAT WHOLE THING.
-NO, IT'S AWESOME. -IT'S FUNNY TO MAKE --
I HOPE THAT OUR FAMILY COUNSELOR,
NANCY HUNTERTON, SEES THAT AND SAYS, "WHAT?!"
Christine: SHE'S GONNA LOVE IT. SHE'S GONNA LOVE IT.
YEAH. BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, OR SEMI-SERIOUSNESS,
IS THAT REALLY THE LANGUAGE
THAT I-I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE LEARNED FROM NANCY
IN THE SESSIONS THAT YOU GUYS DO TOGETHER.
SORT OF TALK ABOUT THAT.
NANCY DOESN'T TRAIN US WITH LANGUAGE, NECESSARILY.
NANCY TRAINS US A VERY DIFFERENT WAY, I THINK.
AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT,
THE GOAL, I THINK, HAS BEEN TO LEARN TO BE FRANK
AND STILL BE KIND. -MM.
NANCY WOULD BE LIKE, "OKAY, GET OVER YOUR CRAP."
-YEAH. -PRETTY MUCH.
LIKE, SHE'S PRETTY MUCH LIKE, "LIKE, YOU GUYS LOVE EACH OTHER.
"YOU'RE GOOD. YOU'RE FINE.
"RISE ABOVE IT, BE A BETTER PERSON,
AND FORGET WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST," SO...
I'VE BEEN REALLY GLAD THAT WE'VE HAD SOMEONE
WHO COULD GIVE US THOSE SKILLS, EVEN IF THEY COME ACROSS FUNNY,
'CAUSE WE DO USE THAT LANGUAGE WITH EACH OTHER.
WE DO.
WE FEEL LIKE THAT WE'RE SORT OF WINNING
BY STICKING IT OUT AND FIGURING IT OUT.
AND I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR US.
I THINK OUR RELATIONSHIPS ARE DEEPER.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE IN THE PUBLIC EYE,
BOY, IT'S HELD RIGHT UP THERE, AND YOU SEE YOURSELF
AND YOU SEE HOW YOU ACT AND YOU RELIVE IT AND YOU RELIVE IT.
I THINK CULTURALLY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KIND OF
HOLD OURSELVES, HOLD IN OUR EMOTIONS,
AND KIND OF WORK IT OUT WITH GOD.
AND I THINK IT WAS STARTING TO SHOW
A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO MUCH INTO THE FAMILY.
AND WHERE WE'RE NOW, LIKE, OPEN, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE WORRIED
ABOUT, LIKE... 'CAUSE IN THE PAST,
IF THE PLURAL FAMILY WOULD GO INTO,
LIKE, A THERAPIST'S OFFICE, THEY WOULD IMMEDIATELY BE TOLD,
"IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE A PLURAL FAMILY.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE DYSFUNCTIONAL."
-MM. -"POLYGAMY IS YOUR PROBLEM."
YEAH, "POLYGAMY IS YOUR PROBLEM."
AND NOW IT'S, LIKE, BECAUSE WE'RE MORE OPEN,
IT'S, LIKE, PEOPLE...I FEEL SAFER TO GO TO A THERAPIST.
WE REALLY WANT TO WORK OUT THESE RELATIONSHIPS.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE JUST SAW THAT WE KNOW HOW TO SPEAK,
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IF WE ACTUALLY WILL DO THAT
TO HAVE THOSE DEEP CONVERSATIONS
THAT SOMETIMES JUST NEED TO BE HAD.
SuChin: I FEEL LIKE IN SMALLER FAMILIES,
YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH A BIT MORE.
BUT IN THIS SETTING, IT'S HARD I THINK, TO SORT OF...
'CAUSE SOMEONE ELSE MAY CATCH WHAT ANOTHER PERSON
DIDN'T CATCH AND NOT LET THAT SLIDE.
I THINK YOU'RE MORE ACCOUNTABLE. YOU HAVE TO BE MORE ACCOUNTABLE.
-MM-HMM. -'CAUSE YOU'RE SO VULNERABLE.
I THINK WE'RE ALL PRETTY VULNERABLE.
OH, YEAH. NO, NO, NO, WE ARE.
AND IT'S, LIKE, THIS SHOW MAKES YOU VULNERABLE, TOO.
Robyn: MM-HMM.
LIKE, YOU'LL WATCH EPISODES OF YOURSELF AND JUST BE LIKE,
"OH, MY GOSH." -OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
"I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS LIKE THAT.
"I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS MISBEHAVING.
THAT'S JUST UGH." YOU'RE JUST VULNERABLE.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO SOMETHING LIGHTER
AND, HOPEFULLY, FUNNIER.
KODY... [ CLEARS THROAT ] YOUR DANCE MOVES.
-OH! -SuChin: RIGHT?
YOU'RE NOT AFRAID TO LET EVERYONE KNOW
THAT YOU GOT MOVES.
SO LET'S SEE SOME OF THOSE MOVES IN ACTION. SHALL WE, KODY?
-ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? -I DON'T REALLY HAVE MOVES.
YOU KNOW THAT. I JUST DON'T BELIEVE
ANYBODY'S WATCHING, SO I DANCE LIKE I FEEL.
-OH, WE'RE ALL WATCHING. -HE'S GOT MOVES.
-WE'RE WATCHING. -I GOT MOVES?
-MM-HMM. -MM.
WE'RE HAVING A DANCE OFF.
IT WON'T BE A COMPETITION FOR ME,
BECAUSE I WON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE IS THERE.
TRUE.
'CAUSE WHEN I DANCE, I'M DANCING WITH MYSELF.
-YEAH, ME TOO. -[ IMITATING DANCE BEAT ]
Kody's voice: â™ª PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT â™ª
â™ª PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT â™ª
I DANCE LIKE NOBODY'S WATCHING.
â™ª PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT â™ª -YEAH.
â™ª PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT â™ª
ARE WE DANCING?
â™ª PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT â™ª
-Woman: OH, MY GOSH! -Kody: ARE WE DANCING?
â™ª PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT â™ª
[ Auto-tuned voice ] WE ARE GOING TO INTRODUCE YOU
TO THE BROWN FAMILY MOSH PIT.
â™ª PERFECT, PERFECT, PERFECT â™ª
-THIS WASN'T THE DANCE OFF. -I KNOW.
I LITERALLY DON'T WANT TO DO A DANCE OFF WITH HANNAH.
[ LAUGHS ]
-SuChin: I LOVE IT. -THAT WAS FUN.
THAT WAS FUN.
NOW WHO OUT OF THE BROWN CLAN WOULD YOU SAY
IS THE BEST DANCER?
-KODY. -WELL, THERE'S DIFFERENT STYLES.
YOU DON'T THINK SO? OH, I THOUGHT HE -- MM.
THAT WAS A COMPLETE BROWN NOSE.
-Christine: NO, NO. -[ ROBYN LAUGHING ]
I'VE DANCED WITH HIM BEFORE.
I'VE DANCE WITH HIM BEFORE, AND THERE WAS --
HIS FAVORITE THING WAS,
"WHY DON'T YOU JUST STAND THERE MOVING A LITTLE,
AND I'LL DANCE ALL AROUND YOU LIKE CRAZY?"
I FEEL LIKE WHEN HE SAID,
"EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT STYLES,"
HE WAS REFERRING TO YOUR BEST GO-TO DANCE MOVE,
WHICH IS WHAT?
[ LAUGHS ] I CAN MIMIC HER SIGNATURE DANCE MOVE.
NO, PLEASE. PLEASE MIMIC IT. PLEASE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOURS. -I DON'T KNOW.
SHE DOES THIS LITTLE THING ONCE IN A WHILE WHERE SHE'S...
[ LAUGHTER ]
-YOU GOT TO KNOW LITERALLY -- -THIS IS THE ONLY TIME
I CRY, IT'S WHEN I LAUGH.
I DO LIKE TO FLIT.
CHRISTINE DOES THIS, WHERE SHE'S...
AND SHE THEN SHE FAKE CRIES. -I'M REALLY GOOD AT THAT.
SuChin: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GUYS.
HAD A GREAT TIME. -YEAH.
I LAUGHED, I CRIED, I GOT IT ALL OUT.
AND IT WAS JUST -- IT WAS SUCH A PLEASURE
TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU GUYS.
IT WAS AN HONOR. -THANK YOU.
-WELL, THANK YOU. IT WAS GREAT. -SO THANK YOU, GUYS.