[narrator] Previously on Sister Wives...
So, I haven't said anything to Robyn yet about what my plans are.
I'm planning on moving my clothing business
from Flagstaff up here to the B and B.
I need to let Robyn know, 'cause I feel like she's the only one
who's really going to care.
This is done, like you've made your decision.
It causes me a lot of anxiety, but yes.
[Janelle] I have an appointment to meet with Kody.
I have not seen him since he blew up and walked out of my apartment
right before Christmas.
I don't know, it's weird because Kody was like
-so attentive to Christine. -To... to Christine.
I tried very hard to be kind with her.
If Robyn approached me and wanted to be friends,
I would have not been friends still.
Because I couldn't trust her.
Thank you.
-Hi. -Hi.
Give me a hug.
About six weeks ago before Christmas, Janelle and I
had a major blow up fight.
Didn't go really good last time we talked. [laughs]
No.
That's an understatement.
I mean, I miss you, honey, I miss you.
And I just don't know how to fix this
or figure this out.
I miss him. But I'm not being treated the way I deserve to be treated here.
[Janelle] Christine and I decided on one of our trips into town
to meet up and go to lunch.
I just haven't said anything to Christine to this point
about the fight, about the lunch
we had six weeks later where I told him I didn't want him to come back.
Um, you know, it just was all still very fresh and very raw
and it didn't really know what it meant.
But now everything is settled.
I feel really comfortable communicating to Christine everything that's happened
It's been a bit, and last time we talked,
I mean, the conversations just kept getting heavier and heavier and heavier,
so who knows what's going to happen today?
[sighs]
So, I have asked Robyn to come over,
so that we can chat, so I can share a little tidbit of information
about my current life status.
I'm feeling slightly nervous because she probably won't be happy with it.
[Robyn] I do not know what she wants to talk to me about.
She just said there's some stuff going on and we just need to sit down
and visit, and I was like, "Okay."
You know, I've heard more through the grapevine
a little bit through her kids
that things between her and Kody aren't great.
-We'll have you two right here, today. -Awesome.
Thank you.
According to her kids, it's worse than ever.
So last time I was here was with Kody.
-Yeah. -Yeah, same.
[laughs]
Oh, how did it go, how was the talk with Kody?
We actually...
um...
Not productive, productive but not productive.
You know how it is.
-You always run in circles with him. -I know.
-So... -Always.
-[Meri] Hey! -[Robyn] Sorry, Stop being...
-Hi. -How are you?
-Good, how are you? -Yeah.
I am a little nervous. But that's only because there's so much going on
right now. So much heavy stuff
everywhere else that it's like, I don't know if I can take anymore.
Robyn has said to me so many times,
"Don't leave me. Don't leave me."
I think that it's gonna look to her like I'm throwing in the towel.
[sighs]
-So... -So...
-[sighs] Thank you for coming over. -Oh, yeah.
Meri doesn't have good news for me. I can already tell
from the way that she's talking to me.
The reason why I have called you over is to give you an update on my life.
-Okay. -It's just been a long time...
since we've chatted or anything.
Um...
I've been thinking about it for a long time,
and trying to figure out like what to do, especially like in the last year.
-[Robyn] Okay. -Since Mom passed, like how to run the B and B.
-Yeah. -And what to do with it.
And...
it's been a lot of work, going back and forth.
-I bet. -Trying to keep that up.
But whenever I'm up there, I can't do the clothing business.
So, I've been trying to figure out like how to make it all work together.
And I am going to be moving out of this house.
And moving the business up there.
But I will be downsizing here.
Okay.
Where are you going to be moving?
Yeah, I don't... Mmm. I don't think she's liking it.
I guess I'm just kind of double checking going, "This is where you live,
though, this is home.
This is going to stay home, right?
What does that mean when you say you'll be there more?
It will be longer chunks of time.
And I'll come back here...
when I'm needed to be here.
What's going to happen with...
my relationship with Robyn and her kids and even the potential
of any possibility that might...
happen with Kody?
It's just something that...
I have figured out that I need to be doing.
From everything that's happening right now,
in the family with Kody and Janelle specifically right now,
I feel very unsteady.
And in all reality, Kody is even being different.
I don't feel very steady even with him.
But Meri and I always have had
this steadiness between the two of us
and through everything that's been happening,
it's like at least I could go to her and look at her in the eyes
and say, "We're here for each other, right? We're gonna stick this out, right?
Let's not give up, okay?"
[Janelle] I've seen Nancy.
-Oh, okay. -I saw Nancy.
-Okay. -And it was helpful.
Nancy is the family counselor, therapist that we saw in Vegas for a lot of years.
I really needed somebody to talk to about all the things that were
going on in my head.
Really, I think what's happened is...
I'm growing and I need something different.
And that's hard... I'm still reconciling that, little bit.
What do you mean something different?
Like, I don't want to be married anymore.
You're done?
Yeah. And I don't know what to do with that.
It's about a five-hour drive between the bed and breakfast
in my house here in Flagstaff.
It's a lot of miles on the car, it's a lot of time
not being able to do work.
My business will be moving up there and just because I need to have them...
I feel like I'll be more efficient and better at both of them,
If I'm not split so much.
Okay.
So, you want to... you want to have your business up there.
I'll be able to manage it better.
So, my plan is to move my online clothing business
up to Parowan, up to the B and B.
And then I will just find another smaller home to move into here in Flagstaff,
I'll just be doing a lot of traveling back and forth between the two states.
-I mean, I'll still come back here. -Yeah.
But this is where you'll live.
Yes.
But I'll be visiting there often-er.
-Often-er? -[laughs] Often-er.
We're still gonna be here like this, like, together, right?
Like, where we both believe in the possibility
of getting this family fixed somehow.
I just don't want it to look like what I think it's gonna be perceived as.
it's a little bit scary that I'm making this decision.
You're leaving Kody, you're done?
-Well... -Does he know you're done?
I think he's just likes to string people along. It's exhausting.
[Kody] So today, we're going out to Coyote Pass.
I got these mini bikes for the kids at Christmastime
and now it's warm enough to go out there.
I think I'll be able to ride the mini bikes when I'm probably in my 20s.
Me when I'm probably like 19.
-My mom's not gonna let us at all. -Yeah, so...
Yeah, that's like...
Unless we convince her.
[Kody] Some of my children, I've had to teach how to drive
and sometimes it's like... [grunts] It's just crazy teaching them to drive.
Somebody who's used equipment before, like, if I get Sol and Ariella
on the mini bikes, they'll understand braking and throttling
enough that the transition to a vehicle, a car,
will be so much easier.
They're doing really well. They're having a good time.
It's just that they're gonna be sore later because these mini bikes are just
basically a bucket of bolts.
If I could try to convince my mom and prove her, like, that she can trust me,
and I can hold on really tight.
We can do it and we can hold on.
[Robyn] All I know is that...
uh, Janelle told Kody not to come back to the house after their fight.
And I begged her not to tell him to come get his stuff, but she did it anyway.
It was one of the first times I've ever heard Janelle talking about
what she has with Kody isn't enough.
I just don't think he's capable of more.
-So, you're leaving Kody, you're done? -Well...
Does he know you're done?
I mean, I've told him not to come back
-to the house, that we're separated. -Okay.
We left it where we'll try to find a counselor, but he hasn't taken
any action and neither have I and it's been... a month.
[Christine] Okay.
I think he's just likes to string people along.
Sorry, I'm frustrated. He strung Meri along for years and years and years.
And then he tried to string me along and now he's stringing Janelle along.
He's exhausting.
So, you don't really want to.
I don't think so, I'm struggling because I still have so much
affection for him. But I just...
I... I need something different as far as marriage goes.
Yeah.
-It's okay to grow. It's okay to change. -Yeah.
And sometimes your partner comes along and sometimes they don't.
-Yeah. -And then maybe all the changes with COVID
and then the way he was about my boys and everything
and maybe it was just finally like, I'm ready to do something different.
I don't know.
I can't think of any reason that I would want him to come back at this point.
I just don't know because I'm...
I'm just waiting on God to tell me if... if what I'm doing is okay.
I haven't had any kind of inspiration to that regard yet.
I'm not sure what exactly is going on with Janelle and Kody.
Kody's not actually talking to me about it.
I think it's because he doesn't like what I have to say.
Because I'm like...
figure this out, talk.
Work this out.
[Meri] It's easier for me to be at the B and B
and that scares me that I'm going to where it's easy.
I think that's what Kody's done for many years,
is just gone to where it's easy.
Now, look our relationship, you know what I mean?
Like what's it going to lead to?
So...
So, does this mean anything else? This just means exactly what you're telling me?
-It means exactly what I'm telling you. -Okay, cool.
All right, good to know.
I'm not 100% convinced that Robyn believes what my point is
with moving my business up there.
I'm trying to remain calm.
What's going on?
I just don't like change and it's scary. And it's just another with...
everything else that's going on in the family,
it just feels like...
yet another thing. [cries]
But I also know that you're the only one who cares about it, too.
I do.
I mean, as long as you're really truly gonna still be here--
I'm gonna have a house. I'm gonna have an address.
I'm gonna be here.
-I'm gonna sleep there. -Okay. Okay. All right.
I just will also be up there.
She's very well aware of where mine and Kody's relationship stands.
So she's like, "Mmm, are we sure?"
I just...
I just want you around.
-So, always have. -I know.
Is she gonna just keep putting more pieces there of herself there that will...
eventually take her there all the way?
It's scary to me because of what it looks like.
And it's scary to me because I know I have
feared what you're gonna think that it is.
And...
I know that...
I know what Kody...
he's just not gonna give a crap.
[Robyn] I know for Meri it's not just sitting around pining for Kody.
It's about also her integrity and it's about her commitments
and she's a very devoted and loyal person when it comes to a commitment.
And so, you know, she doesn't take that lightly.
-Are you okay with what you're thinking about? -It stresses me out.
-Like, on a lot of levels. -Because?
I just don't want it to look like what I think it's gonna be perceived as.
Is that me you're worried about?
-You or Kody. -What are you afraid he's gonna think?
I think he'll be like, "Well, see? Told you so.
She's the one that's leaving."
[scoffs]
[Robyn] I don't know what this future holds for her.
I just am grateful she's hanging on and I want her to continue to,
but I feel selfish
[cries] that this...
whole experience of being here and waiting...
to see something can happen between her and Kody has got to be hard.
I just want her to be happy.
[Meri] Part of me is just like, I care so much and I really, really
just want this to work out.
I just really feel like that he is going to...
sometime realize that, you know, this is
something that he committed to as well.
And then we can work on moving forward.
I want him to work on this relationship with me.
And also, like I don't care anymore,
but I do care.
I know what I really want.
If Kody changed, would you ever want a full marriage with him again?
I'm mourning the loss of my family.
Robyn hasn't reached out a lot.
[Kody] Janelle and I met for lunch
about six weeks after we had our fight at her apartment.
I felt pretty contrived.
I felt bad that we'd ever had it, but I hadn't talked to her...
in that six weeks.
I'm asking, let's get... let's work this out.
Let's get this back together and she's going, "No, I just... I need more time.
I'm enjoying myself too much without you."
Our faith speaks against divorce, you know.
I know. But does God tell you?
[Janelle] I don't know, I mean I feel fine with my decision.
It's okay to grow, it's okay to change.
-Yeah. -And sometimes your partner
comes along and sometimes they don't.
I have this fundamental conflict because we believe that marriages are a covenant
that goes beyond death even.
There's really been no outright abuse, there's been no neglect,
like there's been nothing that I can point my finger to
and say, "I deserve a divorce."
But I don't want to be married anymore.
I call Janelle regularly. Don't you want to try and get this worked out
and stuff like that is what I'm asking.
And she's like, "No, I don't think we can reconcile."
She's not interested in a relationship with Robyn.
She's not interested in a relationship with Meri,
certainly not with Meri, I guess.
And how does that work for me?
So, stuff with the kids and anything like that, we'll just...
[Meri] Just let me know ahead of time.
We'll talk about it and figure it out. Okay.
But you have to communicate with me, you have to call me once in a while.
You have to text me.
The last two years during this pandemic...
basically on my own.
Robyn hasn't reached out a lot.
If she wants me there for something she's gonna have to let me know
there's something, in particular that I need to come home for.
I've just gone inside myself.
Why?
It's everything that's going on with the family.
This stuff with the family,
this stuff that's going on,
is consuming me.
I'm so worried about Kody and Janelle.
And I don't know how to let it go.
[Kody] It seems like Janelle has this admission in her soul
where it's, like, "This doesn't work.
And kids are almost raised. I guess I'm done."
And I'm sitting here, going...
"Well...
That's not the way I see it."
But I don't know what I have to offer her.
Meri and I are getting along
and we've waited long enough to,
through this whole process, to get along.
But Meri would like to reconcile
and I'm just glad we're getting along.
And reconciling, as far as our marriage,
I just don't know if that works for me.
That's really big news. I mean,
when we came for Christmas,
I knew that I didn't know how final things were.
Well, I don't know if I really knew either.
Okay.
But in the last month or so...
-I'm really realizing-- -It's final.
See, it's hard for me to say it's final.
Oh, okay. So, you're not there yet.
Well, no. I mean, I am--
-Separated, if that's comfortable. -Yeah, for sure.
-Oh. -For sure.
Okay. Well, that's great. That's great.
Well, that's...
[whispers] It's a lot.
[chuckles]
[Christine] I don't think she's done yet.
She still has affection for him.
And she's just separated, very separated.
I think Christine has felt like
I was getting the raw end of this deal
for a long time.
And she took action,
and now she feels like maybe
I... I deserve something better.
We're just gonna travel during holidays.
-Yup, that's what I think too. -Yes.
So, like, this time it was perfect to have,
like, Thanks... like, Christmas...
Okay, so... She's...
She's gone.
-Serious. So, really... -Yeah.
If Kody changed,
would you ever want a full marriage with him again?
Yes, but I think it's unrealistic.
I think it's how he has always been.
I think he's vastly different than he used to be.
-Okay, I keep thinking like he's different. -Vastly different.
He's not the same person.
-I don't-- He used to be-- -I couldn't be in love with who he is now.
He used to be more...
Courageous?
-It's so strange. -I don't know who he is.
When I realized that--
Maybe that's what's changed
'cause all of a sudden, it just doesn't work for me anymore.
Like, I'm so not attracted to anybody like that.
You know, Kody used to be so dynamic
and so bold.
[Christine] And everyone always wanted to be around him
'cause he was just always down for having a great time,
but he didn't let other people control him.
He was his own person.
[Janelle] He wants a wife who's all partnering with him
and not independent and...
And I'm, like, that will never be me.
He is really advocating patriarchy,
and I'm not that person.
[Meri] This is not the happy-go-lucky,
everything-is-positive- and-well-in-the-world
Kody Brown that I used to know.
He's been a very, very, very angry...
I don't know how you do it.
'Cause he's not who you married,
he's not who I married.
No, he hasn't been.
I don't think that I'm the only one that changed here.
I think Christine went, "This is not the life I want. I'm out."
And Janelle's just going, "Hey, why...This doesn't work for us."
We've all changed.
I'm sad for him.
You're sad for him?
Yeah, I'm very sad for him.
Yeah.
[Meri] It's really sad
seeing him go downhill.
Why is he so angry?
Be...
Robyn, I've heard him say he's glad.
Sorry, I don't buy that he is lamenting,
"Where has his family gone?"
Because if he was,
he would work more at it.
When he gets really honest with himself,
this has messed him up.
So why doesn't he wanna do anything about it?
What do you mean?
-What's he supposed to do about it? -Like with me.
[sighs]
[chuckles]
That is the billion-dollar question. [chuckles]
I can sit there and ask those questions.
I can say, "Why don't you figure this out?
Why can't you work this out?"
But...
Kody's gonna do what Kody's gonna do.
Even with Janelle, like...
Why isn't this...
Why aren't you reaching out there?
I don't understand why Janelle's not reaching out to him either.
I don't understand why people aren't trying.
So, it's a new chapter for me.
Janelle keeps telling me she doesn't enjoy our time together.
She doesn't want a divorce,
but she doesn't want me around.
What Christine has done has
messed him up.
I don't believe Christine said
that every bit of our lives was hell.
[Kody] Janelle keeps telling me she doesn't enjoy our time together.
She doesn't want a divorce,
but she doesn't want me around.
But I want the marriage to thrive for the sake of...
our children,
and for our honor.
I mean, divorce is embarrassing.
I don't know why we're still in this culture of...
of, like, "Divorce is shameful."
But I don't wanna break up.
One of the things Kody was really mad at me about,
he said that I wasn't a good sister wife.
I think he's only talking about one person.
I'm sorry, but that's the reality.
The thing is, I'm not not close with Robyn.
I'm not, I'm not close with her.
I'm not close with her. But--
That's the hardest thing to overcome
is this whole idea that somehow she's been a victim.
And I don't know if it would ever be overcome-able.
I don't consider myself a victim.
And I actually
won't allow myself to indulge in that thought process
'cause I don't like that.
Um, it's like...
pick yourself up, make it happen, be strong,
deal with your problems.
You and I, we're--
You know, we were in the mud together with the kids,
in that we raised the kids, they were the same age.
She always wanted to have a separate childcare
-for her kids and... -Yeah.
-And that's okay. -Yeah.
It's okay but it just didn't give us the opportunity.
I think I could have done better
as a sister wife, sure.
Sure, absolutely.
But I think I did a lot of things
that were great as a sister wife.
To me, being a sister wife means
someone that is there to help you with your kids.
When she decided to get a nanny, it really was...
a line. It really was a line in the sand.
Kody really gauged everything by the way
that Robyn perceived the relationships,
or that Kody perceived how we were with Robyn.
How you treat Robyn is how...
if you're a good sister wife or not.
[Kody] The realization is happening now
that friendship in a marriage
is not enough to carry off the marriage.
You gotta have more than friendship.
[Janelle] Robyn plays this really weird card
where she forgets or she doesn't know why,
and that's a typical MO for her.
I can't even bring anything up with Kody
about Robyn because she's perfect,
she's supportive,
she's the only one who's been loyal.
Like, he just shuts it down. There's no communication.
'Cause as Kody likes to say, "Robyn's done nothing wrong.
She's the sweetest person that's ever come into the family,
and she has given everything to us.
So anything that you say to her that's cross is abusive."
Sorry, it's not real world.
My struggles with Janelle, especially recently,
have been specific to my pain,
how I feel with her.
I never really talked about
Janelle's and Robyn's relationship
to anybody else like Christine or Janelle.
[Robyn] I didn't really have big issues
with my sister wives.
I wanted relationships with them
and that was a hard thing for me, but that's it.
There was really not a lot to sit through
and actually process through with Kody.
This whole story about...
that I turned him against them is ridiculous and bogus.
They're just not dealing with their own issues.
They need to stop talking about me.
What Christine has done has...
messed him up.
And I don't... He doesn't want to admit it,
but it's the truth.
Christine totally just destroyed his past.
Like, what he thought was a functional situation,
she basically said it was horrible
every single minute of every single day type of thing.
Stories upon stories of all of the things
that she was going through and not about...
you and Janelle as much as him.
I'm not gonna be responsible for Kody's losing his religion.
That's ridiculous.
To put me as the scapegoat
for him for losing his faith...
I never had that much power over Kody.
I don't believe that Christine said
that every bit of our lives was hell.
I believe she had frustrations.
And if that's what Kody interpreted it as,
and...
relayed to Robyn
as such, I don't think that's fair.
I wasn't there. I'm getting what...
I'm explaining to you what he said to me.
But it was just basically like the...
all the years, every single... all of it was hell.
It does not surprise me at all
that Christine has complaints about me,
or complaints about Janelle
or complaints about Kody or Robyn.
I get it. I have had complaints about every single one of them.
Like, this is just what happens
in a family, unless you're 100% perfect.
And I don't know anybody who is.
[Janelle] I think being a sister wife is tough
and you are kind of mean to each other sometimes.
But there's also really good times.
[Kody] These ladies have no idea the struggles
that Christine and I have gone through.
I just don't think Christine was a good fit in polygamy.
Okay. But I'm not a bad sister wife.
-No. -I mean, I think I'm fine.
No. I think, in fact, we're gonna have more fun now
because, like, we get to be sister wives
without all the other crazy stuff.
Oh, my gosh, I know.
-We'll always be sister wives. Isn't that funny? -Yeah.
I'm just realizing, I didn't really know if I was a sister wife anymore
and it was after our last conversation.
I'm, like, "Oh, I'll always be a sister wife with Janelle."
-[chuckles] -We're always gonna be sister wives.
-Right? -Yeah, yeah.
I think so.
I... No, definitely.
And whoever we remarry will have to just...
It's part of it.
If I marry a plural family, it won't be a big deal.
Right. But I'm, like, a package deal here.
Things are gonna change.
You know, things will change. But...
But I think that, um, the relationship we have
doesn't go away just because she and Kody are no longer married,
or that I and Kody are no longer together.
I get it.
He's trying to survive.
I get it.
He's trying to survive the pain.
As long as this is just kind of...
what you gotta do
and there's no permanency to it and...
I'm literally just...
doing the next thing that I know how to do.
[Robyn] I just want her and Kody to get it figured out.
And I want us, like, Kody and Janelle
to get it figured out.
And I just wanna build our family back together.
So I'm always worried she's finally gonna say,
"Okay, I can't do this anymore."
And I wouldn't blame her.
[Janelle] I think it would take a really great unifying force
to being about any kind of change
or bringing people to the table even.
I don't know if the will is there, or the desire.
This is something we did together.
The mistakes that we made, we did together.
Stop pointing fingers.
Every single wife in this family
had the opportunity to have a great relationship with me.
If we didn't have a good relationship,
or if weren't working on that great relationship,
it was because the two of us weren't working.
It has nothing to do with what somebody else did.
I feel like Robyn and I are probably the only ones
in the family who are really willing
to have those hard conversations
because we see value in the family,
we see value in healthy relationships.
And the way that you have healthy relationships
is by having conversations
and sometimes, conversations can be hard.
No, I remember every... My...
One of my biggest frustrations was
every family party that I threw,
he would come and be a guest at.
Yet...
he was always helping throw parties at Robyn's
every time he's there.
They were just a couple
and we were just kinda there on the sidelines.
That's how I felt.
That's how it feels like what it's evolved to.
[Christine] Janelle's not going to get snarky with me.
And honestly,
it's not over for Janelle.
It's just not, so of course she doesn't wanna sit here
and get snarky.
Christine is throwing a lot of things out about Kody and Robyn.
And while I'm getting kind of a good laugh
about them,
I have to be really careful at this point
to make sure I keep my judgment clear.
Like, I have to be really careful
to stay in this place
where I'm in touch with what I'm thinking.
And to not be influenced one way or the other,
so I can make a clear decision for myself
on what's going on with me.
Okay. So you haven't been heartbroken?
You don't cry, you haven't' been...
Oh, my gosh.
It felt like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders.
I'm always torn between
looking at her and saying, "Go find your happiness,"
and saying, "Please, figure it out with us here."
I think I should probably tell him as well
and I wondered if you would be around when I told him.
Yeah, I'll translate.
'Cause he doesn't... he doesn't get me.
I've been teased that I'm kinda...
I can speak Kody.
I think he is...
trying to figure it out with Janelle and me and...
And in his strange...
way with you.
There's no question, Robyn.
He's done with me.
[sighs]
There's no question.
Meri, he talks about us all out on the property still.
He talks about you out there.
I know her goal is to stick it out until...
they decide to figure it out.
Well, I'm trying to give her a little bit of...
rope to hang on to. [chuckles]
I've heard him say things...
that are not very kind about me.
And that have made it very clear to me
where he is in our relationship.
How can he, on one hand,
and be, like, "Yeah, she's part of my family.
And I want her out at the property."
And on the other hand, like, not even,
hardly even talk to me?
So, as long as you and Janelle
are all good with him,
then he's cool with plural marriage?
What do you mean?
I'm... That's the only plural marriage that he has left.
It's not like he has given up on plural marriage.
I don't understand that, please. I--
I can only do what I can do here.
[Kody] Meri and I went through an entire process here
over the past seven years.
And...
We've gotten back to the place where I feel like we are...
getting along. We get along with each other.
But I don't wanna reconcile the relationship
because I don't think it's a fit for me.
[Christine] Okay. So you haven't been heartbroken?
You don't cry. You haven't been...
-It was a relief. -Oh, my gosh.
And we were... So, after the day we had the fight,
when he left, I was kind of, like, stunned a little bit.
When did you have a fight?
Right before Christmas.
-Oh, okay. -Maybe like 16th December,
somewhere along--
Were you, like, basically kind of--
I mean, he was completely yelling at me.
Like, completely. Like, "You're gaslighting me,"
-blah, blah, blah. -Oh, my gosh.
It was really crazy.
[Janelle] Don't you dare point your finger at me.
I've been here...
day long, in and out,
for all these years without your support
while you are deciding what you're doing
without consulting me.
You know what, let me tell you what--
-No. -No, you stay and talk!
I'm done listening to you.
-Okay, so we're done? -Good-bye.
[bleep] you.
Later that day, I was driving around. I thought,
"Wow." There was like a...
It felt like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders.
I don't think she realizes that
80%, 90% of all separations end in divorce.
And I think it's a mistake, but whatever.
I'm in this really weird place right now
'cause I'm...
I don't want Kody back at my house,
and...
there's really no legal mechanism that says we're divorced.
But I'm not at all interested
in any other kind of relationship.
I'm not interested in dating.
I mean, unless God somehow throws this guy
right in my path and points with big arrows,
"This is it, this is it, this is it,"
I'm just not... I'm just not interested.
So, it's a new chapter for me.
It is a new chapter for you.
How are you feeling?
I still don't know,
but it feels optimistic
and it feels like there's lots of options.
This summer's looking a lot more exciting than last summer. [chuckles]
Last summer was hard.
I moved last summer.
I remember when I told you I was leaving,
you did cry.
-I did. -I remember.
-I did cry. -You cried over me leaving,
-not you leaving Kody. -[laughs]
Yeah, no, I did cry.
-That was like-- -You did.
I knew that it was like... That was...
That's rare for me. So...
You cried then, but not with you and Kody.
No.
But we'll always raise the kids together.
-We're always gonna be sister wives. -Yeah, yeah.
Janelle and I have this bond. It's...
It's cemented together.
And nothing's gonna come between Janelle and I.
[talking indistinctly]
[Meri] My relationship within the family right now,
and for quite a while,
has been such that I don't know all the ins and outs
of all the different relationships.
Like, I just keep my distance
and give them the respect and the space
that they need to figure it out.
[sighs]
Well, I just wanted to tell you that.
Okay.
And hope you don't freak out too much, but...
It's only five hours away.
-Right. -And I'm there half of the time anyway.
[Robyn] I'm always torn between
just looking at her and saying,
"Go find your happiness,"
and saying, "Please, figure it out with us here."
You all right?
Do you get it?
I...
have a really good life.
I have a lot of things going on
and I have a lot of things on my plate.
Yeah.
And I just have to...
keep doing those parts of my life
with the people that want to...
be involved in it.
Mmm-hmm.
So...
That's what I need to do.
I love Kody but I'd never wanted to live monogamy.
And it feels like more and more
that's where it's kind of headed.
And I feel angry.
I'm really angry.
I wanted to live plural marriage.
And, um...
I feel like, uh...
I'm starting to feel a little tricked or something.
Or like, uh,
people are making decisions for my life
that I did not choose.
It's making me very angry and very depressed.
[narrator] Next time on Sister Wives...
I'm not pressuring you, kind of, to move.
I mean, it's all on the table at this point.
If things are as bad as they think they are,
why not move on?
I'm gonna be moving my clothing business up to Utah.
This does not mean I'm leaving
the family or you.
Hmm.
It actually has no effect on me.
I've got one wife that I've got a great relationship with,
and I'm afraid if I abandon these women,
that she'll lose respect for me.
[Janelle] So this is my first birthday
since Kody and I had our big fight about six months ago.
Good, we'll have just a fun, easy evening, right?
I kinda feel like a guy on a first date
that's like jonesing, you know?
Like, "Hey, are we gonna kiss after this date?"