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- Hi.
- Hi.
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- How's it going?
- Good.
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Long time no see.
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- Yeah.
- Are you gonna
give me a hug?
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I feel pathetically
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that she commonly rejects me.
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I... I do think
I wanna stay separated.
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- Really?
You wanna stay separated?
- Yeah, I do.
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I think if he was
dying to get back with me
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he would've called
the counselor, he would be
actively pursuing that.
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But there's no communication
or conversation about that.
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- Meri!
- Hi.
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In recent years,
there's been a lot of,
dare I say, drama.
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- So, Robyn...
- What's up?
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...I have news.
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Uh-oh. Good news
or bad news?
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I have not talked to Kody,
Meri or Robyn for a long time.
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But you have to know
I would consider a
plural marriage again.
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- Independence.
- Wait, you would consider--
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I would consider
plural marriage again.
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- You really would?
- Yeah.
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Last week
I went back to Flagstaff
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and Janelle and I had a really
in-depth conversation
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about her relationship
with Kody.
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I'm more at peace
when he's not around.
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- Right now?
- Yeah.
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I need something different.
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I need more of a companion.
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Yeah, you do.
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On one hand
it would be so easy for Kody
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to fix this relationship
with Janelle.
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However, it's relationship
with the kids where
Janelle's really frustrated.
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You know, his relationship
with her children
is what the main problem is.
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It's absolutely ridiculous.
I mean, her situation...
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is a lot harder than mine.
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- Can I scramble them on this?
- Yeah.
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So, the entire family
knows that I'm pregnant
except for Ysabel,
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so we're gonna go ahead
and tell her.
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Okay.
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There is one other major
surprise that I haven't told
anyone yet.
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I've never seen a sonogram
of twins before
ever, ever, ever.
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I already love them.
I already love them so much.
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You're having
frigging twins?
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I cannot believe
you're having twins!
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They're just
so cute,
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and they actually
got the two of them together
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and they're all mushed.
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They're all mushed so much.
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I mean, you see one sonogram
with one baby
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and they already look
super smashed.
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I can't imagine that--
She's gonna get huge.
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I mean, like,
when you're pregnant...
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She was pregnant
it was out till here
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but twins,
that's gonna be like...
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big. I don't even know. Anyway...
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I was not surprised, actually.
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When I...
when the doctor told me,
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"Hey, there's two things
in here. We're gonna get
a second opinion."
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I was like, "Oh, okay."
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And the doctor was like,
"Yup. Sure enough.
You're having twins."
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And I was like,
"Okay, sounds good."
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Pretty much,
and then I came home
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to show, to tell Tony
and I showed him the picture
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- and he was like...
- Yeah.
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She's like,
"Look, there's two blobs."
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And I'm like, "What do you
mean there's two blobs?"
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So, she's like,
"There's two of them."
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And I'm like, "No,
there's not."
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- He just--
- There's two blobs?
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He didn't quite understand.
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Oh, man. I was, like,
in brain lock.
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I'm like, "What?
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Why is there two?"
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We don't really have
any twins in...
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that I know of, in my,
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uh, family history.
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It's probably Tony's side
of the family.
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Are you okay?
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Tony has this look in his eyes
like he is shocked.
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I don't think
he's looked at me in the eyes
for four days.
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Yes.
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I was absolutely,
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A, stressed out
and B, taken aback.
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It wa... It was mind-blowing.
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And they're, like,
not in our families.
We're like...
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"How did this happen?" Like...
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They both better be mine.
Like, what the heck?
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The heck... How did we get
two of them? I don't know.
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I mean, Mykelti and Tony
are gonna be great with twins.
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They really honestly are.
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I'm just really
not concerned about it
to be honest with you.
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We did twins, too.
Janelle had Gabe,
I had Gwen.
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They're, like,
four days apart.
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When I watched them by myself,
you just figure it out.
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You just figure it out.
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And they're going
to figure it out.
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And they're gonna be
completely fine.
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Okay, so,
uh, not too long ago
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was mine and Kody's
32nd anniversary.
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Leading up to it,
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you know, I just wasn't even
sure what to expect, honestly.
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I feel like the past few years
when we've gone out
on our anniversary
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really has just
almost been more obligatory
than anything else.
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He hasn't even taken me out
on my birthday.
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So, he didn't actually call me
or text me.
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Um, midway through the day
I thought, "Maybe I should
just call him."
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And so I did.
I called him,
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I'm like, "Hey."
And he's like, "Hey."
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And I said,
"Happy anniversary."
And he's, like,
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"Oh, happy anniversary."
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I'm like, "We should go out
on a drive or...
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go to dinner or something,
what do you think?"
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You know. He's like, "Mmm...
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I'm watching the kids,
let me check with Robyn."
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When Meri called me to ask me
if we were gonna do anything
for her--
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our anniversary, I just said,
"Well, I'm watching the kids."
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I needed a minute to...
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like, think.
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I needed a reason
to be able to say no
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in the event
I just didn't think it was
the right thing for me to do.
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And I had to think about that.
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So, anyway,
so he called me back later
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and he's like, "Okay,
let's go out to dinner."
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So, he came
and he picked me up
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and we went to dinner.
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At one point he made
some reference to
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faking relationships or
something like that
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and I was like,
"What do you mean, faking?"
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And we were sitting across
the table from each other
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and he kinda gestured, like,
with his fingers, you know,
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like, between the two of us.
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He's like, "Well, this."
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And I said, "What do you mean?
I'm not faking anything."
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He's like, "I don't know why
you even bothered
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to call and say
happy anniversary, Meri."
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I'm like, "Uh, 'cause it's
our anniversary."
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He's like,
"But we're not ma--"
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and he paused
and then he goes,
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"But we're not living
as a married couple."
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I felt like in that moment...
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that he stopped himself
from saying, "Well,
we're not married."
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That was, like,
a big realization to me.
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That all this time,
all these years,
that's how he's felt about it.
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But I haven't known that.
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So, right before
our 25th wedding anniversary
which was seven years ago...
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Meri and I were in
such a bad place.
We were fighting, we...
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You know, it's the same time
she was asking me to stop
staying at her...
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in her house, um...
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and counseling wasn't working.
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We were just in an angry place
with each other.
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It seemed like the love
had been lost.
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Through counseling
and you know, recommendation
of my other wives,
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I was convinced maybe
I should try and fix it.
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It took me a long time.
I wanted to see
if it would work.
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But it just...
just didn't seem like
it was going to work.
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I felt I just had to give up.
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Around that time,
I did ask him
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to just...
can we just take a break?
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And he keeps coming back to me
saying I kicked him out,
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I kicked him out,
I kicked him out,
I kicked him out,
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and I didn't kick him out.
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I didn't pack up his stuff,
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I didn't tell him
to never come back,
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I didn't tell him
that I didn't wanna
see him again.
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I never kicked him out.
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He actually said to me,
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"I have no desire, Meri,
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to have a relationship
with you."
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He said,
"Don't you understand, Meri,
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this is never
going to happen?
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Your life is not one that
I wanna insert myself into."
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Like, I'll never forget
those words.
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Like, this is the first time
he's ever said this to me.
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Like, ever.
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That was very, very painful
for me.
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And I felt my heart,
like, really speeding up
because I'm like...
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But you promised, you know.
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As a culture...
polygamous culture,
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you mostly have home births.
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Especially,
if it's a plural wife.
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You just don't want
hospitals to find out
that you're a plural family
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'cause they can come
and take your kids away.
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There's a whole big
fear mentality about hospitals
in the polygamous culture.
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And so, I think
because of that
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my kids just
always think there's, like,
a little bit of fear
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associated with
the hospital, still.
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Mykelti's pregnant with twins.
Oh, my gosh.
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It's so insanely exciting.
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Oh, my gosh.
I just can't wait.
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Tony did not like
the home birth last time.
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I mean, it was pretty intense.
It was really intense.
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Good.
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- She's coming. She's coming.
- Good job.
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She's coming.
You're doing great.
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- Those are
great sounds.
- Honey, yes.
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Yes, let's get her out.
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Good job. Let's get her out.
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It was intense and
Tony was not down with it.
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He did not like it.
When it was over,
he was like,
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"Babe, we're not
doing that again."
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And Mykelti's like,
"It's fine."
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He's like, "No, it's not.
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It was too scary,
it was too intense."
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It wasn't. It was fine.
It was normal.
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So I'm just gonna tell you,
whatever they decide to do,
I'm 100% in favor of.
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Yes!
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They're going
with Dr. Bean. Yes!
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- I'm excited.
- Okay.
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Yeah, I'm very excited.
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Dr. Bean is always excited.
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Dr. Bean was the doctor I had
when Truely was born.
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I love that man.
I just love that man.
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Big breath.
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- Hold your--
- Oh, excellent.
Good. That's good.
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- Push, push, push.
- Yeah.
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Big push, big push, big push.
That's it, that's it,
that's it, that's it.
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Big push.
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All right. Okay, relax, relax.
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- She's here.
- I felt her. I felt...
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- Just set her
right here.
- Oh, my gosh.
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I felt the whole thing.
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I pushed six children
out of my womb.
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Five of them were at home,
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and then Truely was
at the hospital.
I was so nervous.
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I pushed for, like,
five minutes.
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I was 38 when I had Truely.
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I just felt like
there was a possibility
something could go wrong.
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But there was no complications
in Truely's birth. None.
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The other home births, though...
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...that's where it was at.
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You're doing great.
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Here it comes.
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There he is.
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Oh, my goodness.
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He looks like my little boys.
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Push, push, push.
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Oh, yeah.
239
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- Oh, you sweet little boy.
- [Madison] Oh, my God.
240
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Oh, my goodness.
241
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Good job.
242
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Get in.
Get in, Mommy.
243
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Oh, there we go!
244
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Oh, yeah!
245
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I highly recommend
home births.
246
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Having a midwife...
An experienced midwife
247
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is absolutely, phenomenally
important and necessary.
248
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But the recovery's amazing.
You get to just stay home.
249
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You can just stay in your bed
and it's so nice.
250
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We're talking about
how we have been a part
251
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and not been
in the same homes...
252
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As a culture,
polygamous culture
253
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you mostly have home births,
especially, if it's
a plural wife.
254
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Because in some cases they
don't put the husband's name
even down on anything
255
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and so, you just don't want
hospitals to find out that
you're a plural family
256
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'cause they can come
and take your kids away.
257
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There's a whole big
fear mentality about hospitals
in the polygamous culture.
258
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And so, I think
because of that
259
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my kids just
always think there's, like,
a little bit of fear
260
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associated with
the hospital, still.
261
00:15:51,517 --> 00:15:54,172
It's interesting.
Christine and I share
very different perspectives
262
00:15:54,172 --> 00:15:56,137
on hospitals and
the medical system.
263
00:15:56,137 --> 00:15:59,241
She grew up with a great fear
of going to the hospital
264
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because of exposing
their plural family.
265
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I didn't grow up
in this faith.
266
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My family is not polygamous.
267
00:16:04,965 --> 00:16:08,448
Kody put his name on all my
children's birth certificates.
268
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It's not something
I thought about
269
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'cause I didn't grow up
with that fear.
270
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And here, I've got Mykelti
who's super close to Robyn
271
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and she's super close to me.
272
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It puts a lot of pressure
on her.
273
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A big pressure on her
just 'cause she is
274
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kind of the bridge
between both of us, you know,
275
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with Janelle and I
and our kids
276
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and then Robyn and Kody
and their kids.
277
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Mykelti loves both.
278
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So, I think it's awesome.
279
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Oh, my gosh!
Twins!
280
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Truely's 12.
She's 12 this year.
281
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After the divorce
and stuff like that
282
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there seems to be
a little undertone
283
00:17:00,206 --> 00:17:03,241
like, "Can I trust?"
from my kids.
284
00:17:05,620 --> 00:17:08,068
No, Maddie stopped
reaching out to me.
285
00:17:16,413 --> 00:17:18,862
Okay, I'm gonna check
on the chicken
one more time.
286
00:17:18,862 --> 00:17:20,103
Okay.
287
00:17:20,103 --> 00:17:22,413
Okay, I won your jack,
I'm sorry. I looked.
I'm sorry.
288
00:17:22,413 --> 00:17:24,655
I cheated. I'm sorry.
289
00:17:28,137 --> 00:17:29,413
How's the chicken?
290
00:17:29,413 --> 00:17:31,896
Uh, I think it's done.
I hope it's not burnt.
291
00:17:31,896 --> 00:17:34,241
The back sides of these
are looking bad.
292
00:17:34,241 --> 00:17:36,413
Truely's in town
with Ysabel today.
293
00:17:36,413 --> 00:17:39,137
So, we're gonna go ahead and
have a little birthday party
for Truely.
294
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Truely's 12.
She's 12 this year.
295
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Last year before
she turns into a teenager.
It's always scary, right?
296
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All righty, come on,
let's eat.
297
00:17:57,931 --> 00:18:02,517
It's so nice to have, like,
a family experience
in a party.
298
00:18:02,517 --> 00:18:04,413
I miss this. I miss this
and it's...
299
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I know it's not all of us
but it's a little bit of us
300
00:18:07,551 --> 00:18:09,724
and that's something,
you know.
301
00:18:09,724 --> 00:18:12,827
I always want
Truely to feel safe and
comfortable in my home.
302
00:18:12,827 --> 00:18:15,482
I want any of the kids
to feel safe and comfortable
in my home.
303
00:18:15,482 --> 00:18:17,965
And she seems like
she's having a good time.
304
00:18:17,965 --> 00:18:20,379
Ysabel seems like
she's enjoying herself, too.
305
00:18:20,379 --> 00:18:23,172
- Oh, wow. It's done.
- [Dr. Bean] Okay.
306
00:18:23,172 --> 00:18:25,206
- I felt her. I felt...
- [nurse] Just set her
right there.
307
00:18:25,206 --> 00:18:26,862
Oh, my gosh,
I felt the whole thing.
308
00:18:26,862 --> 00:18:30,310
We went public when
Christine was pregnant
with Truely.
309
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Uh, she was born
and right after that,
310
00:18:32,482 --> 00:18:34,517
uh, Kody and I got married.
311
00:18:37,482 --> 00:18:41,724
So, it's been this kind of
sweet experience where
312
00:18:41,724 --> 00:18:44,551
Truely doesn't have
any memories
313
00:18:44,551 --> 00:18:46,275
without me and my kids.
314
00:18:47,448 --> 00:18:49,137
And that's kinda cool.
315
00:18:51,172 --> 00:18:53,689
Sweet. Yeah.
316
00:18:58,137 --> 00:19:00,379
Ysabel lives
in North Carolina with Maddie
and Caleb.
317
00:19:00,379 --> 00:19:04,758
She has a job
and she's just
living for her.
318
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Everyone, gather up.
We're gonna have blessing
and we're gonna eat.
319
00:19:07,551 --> 00:19:10,482
There's one thing that I'm
constantly concerned about,
320
00:19:10,482 --> 00:19:14,793
which is sort of this gloomy
cloud hanging over us
most of the time.
321
00:19:14,793 --> 00:19:16,620
'Cause after the divorce
and stuff like that
322
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there seems to be
a little bit of a...
323
00:19:18,551 --> 00:19:21,517
it's a nuance, it's a...
it's a little undertone
324
00:19:21,517 --> 00:19:23,655
of sort of a strain.
325
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Like, "Do I trust?
Can I trust?"
326
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,586
from my kids. Um...
327
00:19:31,586 --> 00:19:33,827
Truely seems perfectly fine.
328
00:19:33,827 --> 00:19:37,344
Ysabel seems to be
uncomfortable a lot
of the times.
329
00:19:37,344 --> 00:19:39,241
Well, now, everybody gets
half a piece
330
00:19:39,241 --> 00:19:40,758
'cause we already brought six.
331
00:19:40,758 --> 00:19:42,620
My relationship
with my dad
332
00:19:42,620 --> 00:19:44,965
it's never, like, 100% solid.
333
00:19:44,965 --> 00:19:48,172
And with the divorce right now
everything's rocky
334
00:19:48,172 --> 00:19:50,689
'cause nobody knows what to do
in a divorce.
335
00:19:50,689 --> 00:19:53,689
And then, and a divorce
with a polygamous family
336
00:19:53,689 --> 00:19:57,551
even more so nobody knows
what to do.
337
00:19:57,551 --> 00:20:01,275
There's a lot of pain
from divorce and
the separation of family.
338
00:20:01,275 --> 00:20:05,689
And as a result,
there's just what seems to be
a mild strain.
339
00:20:05,689 --> 00:20:07,586
My phone calls
are pretty weak,
340
00:20:07,586 --> 00:20:10,172
I think we're just...
we're just processing
through some stuff.
341
00:20:13,310 --> 00:20:15,241
For the goals
that I had in my life,
342
00:20:15,241 --> 00:20:18,931
this situation is very,
very disappointing.
343
00:20:18,931 --> 00:20:22,482
My goal from the beginning
was that my family
would be under one roof.
344
00:20:23,137 --> 00:20:25,137
So, and here we go.
345
00:20:25,137 --> 00:20:27,310
- There's the house.
- Wow.
346
00:20:27,310 --> 00:20:30,551
- That's a big house.
- It is a big house.
347
00:20:30,551 --> 00:20:33,413
I don't know.
I wonder if some other
failures in peril marriage
348
00:20:33,413 --> 00:20:38,413
were my part in expecting
too much from the family,
with this one-family idea.
349
00:20:38,413 --> 00:20:41,586
We might have been
more successful had we
been in different homes.
350
00:20:41,586 --> 00:20:44,172
With the kids kind of,
growing up like
they were cousins.
351
00:20:44,172 --> 00:20:47,000
We wrote this idea
for ourselves.
352
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,034
We even withdrew family
commitment celebration,
353
00:20:50,034 --> 00:20:52,275
where we wrote
our mission statement.
354
00:20:52,275 --> 00:20:54,689
Thank you so much
for being here. I'm...
355
00:20:55,482 --> 00:20:56,482
Um...
356
00:20:56,482 --> 00:20:57,620
I'm touched.
357
00:20:57,620 --> 00:20:59,344
We developed
the idea of writing
358
00:20:59,344 --> 00:21:01,827
a family-mission statement
over a year and a half ago.
359
00:21:01,827 --> 00:21:05,965
And we withdrew
some serious processes
trying to get it right.
360
00:21:05,965 --> 00:21:08,068
The Kody Brown family.
361
00:21:08,068 --> 00:21:10,137
"We embrace the spirit
of abundance
362
00:21:10,137 --> 00:21:15,172
in affection, time,
opportunity, peace, wealth,
prosperity, wisdom, and love."
363
00:21:15,172 --> 00:21:19,620
"We teach, allow, and promote
the value of making conscious
and responsible choices
364
00:21:19,620 --> 00:21:21,413
in all aspects of our lives."
365
00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:23,620
"As sister wives
and husband..."
366
00:21:25,241 --> 00:21:26,862
"we embrace one another
with a covenant...
367
00:21:29,172 --> 00:21:30,896
of eternal nature."
368
00:21:30,896 --> 00:21:33,241
"Our bodies being
the temples for our spirit
369
00:21:33,241 --> 00:21:36,241
are the greatest physical
assets given by our maker."
370
00:21:36,241 --> 00:21:40,000
"We intentionally organize
fun parties, gatherings,
and special events
371
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,551
to honor and celebrate
individuals and achievements."
372
00:21:43,724 --> 00:21:46,241
We've just shredded
that mission statement.
373
00:21:46,241 --> 00:21:49,862
It's just like,
what is happened with our
family is very sad to me.
374
00:21:49,862 --> 00:21:52,896
It's just one of those
things that's happened.
I have to move on.
375
00:21:52,896 --> 00:21:55,655
But there is sort of this,
strange place that I'm in,
376
00:21:55,655 --> 00:21:58,655
where it feels odd
to sort of been...
377
00:21:58,655 --> 00:22:00,620
I'm trying
to redefine my life.
378
00:22:11,103 --> 00:22:14,620
You know, if I was in Utah,
I'd almost be too embarrassed
to show my head at church.
379
00:22:14,620 --> 00:22:17,137
Because of just the struggles
my family has had.
380
00:22:17,137 --> 00:22:18,931
Lots of shame.
381
00:22:18,931 --> 00:22:22,448
So we... We don't have
a church here
in Flagstaff either.
382
00:22:22,448 --> 00:22:27,103
We haven't established
any connection
religiously in Flagstaff.
383
00:22:27,103 --> 00:22:28,620
When you have your purity,
384
00:22:28,620 --> 00:22:31,310
and you give it to your
husband and your wife
when you're married,
385
00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:35,068
then you have
a lot of happiness
and a lot of blessings.
386
00:22:35,068 --> 00:22:37,310
I've always been
a man of faith.
387
00:22:37,310 --> 00:22:40,724
But I have struggled
for a long time,
388
00:22:41,448 --> 00:22:43,000
because I'm a polygamist.
389
00:22:44,689 --> 00:22:46,931
I'm not a fit
in my old religion.
390
00:22:47,620 --> 00:22:50,172
And we're in...
391
00:22:50,172 --> 00:22:53,724
Let me use a term.
No pun intended,
we're in limbo.
392
00:22:54,862 --> 00:22:56,827
By the power vested in me,
393
00:22:56,827 --> 00:22:58,551
as a steward
of the almighty God,
394
00:22:58,551 --> 00:22:59,965
in the name
of the eternal Messiah,
395
00:22:59,965 --> 00:23:01,586
I pronounce you
husband and wife.
396
00:23:01,586 --> 00:23:05,827
In the name of the Father,
and of the Son,
and of the holy Ghost. Amen.
397
00:23:12,103 --> 00:23:13,344
No. Um...
398
00:23:15,896 --> 00:23:18,000
I do not know what happened.
399
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,655
But during the break-up
with Christine...
400
00:23:20,655 --> 00:23:23,448
um, Maddie stopped
reaching out to me.
401
00:23:24,413 --> 00:23:26,620
Might have been COVID or...
402
00:23:26,620 --> 00:23:28,793
I have no idea
what was going on, but she...
403
00:23:29,482 --> 00:23:31,724
she quit reaching out to me.
404
00:23:31,724 --> 00:23:34,551
Maddie doesn't call him,
because of his
behavior lately.
405
00:23:34,551 --> 00:23:36,000
She's like...
406
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,551
"I don't... I don't know
what to do with him.
407
00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:40,068
I don't know who this guy is."
408
00:23:40,068 --> 00:23:42,000
So, she has to consider
her children.
409
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,448
She has to consider
the stability of what they
410
00:23:44,448 --> 00:23:46,655
see or perceive
as a grandfather.
411
00:23:46,655 --> 00:23:48,172
There's a lot of things
that play here.
412
00:23:48,172 --> 00:23:50,413
It's not just Maddie,
not calling him.
413
00:23:51,034 --> 00:23:51,896
Make a wish.
414
00:23:53,379 --> 00:23:54,793
- No...
- Let's see if you
blow it out--
415
00:23:59,379 --> 00:24:02,482
My kids have really
missed their siblings.
416
00:24:05,482 --> 00:24:08,689
And there seems
to be this weird wall...
417
00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:11,965
that I can't penetrate.
418
00:24:11,965 --> 00:24:15,206
And we can't quite
figure out why it's there.
419
00:24:18,862 --> 00:24:20,448
It looks to me...
420
00:24:20,448 --> 00:24:22,724
It feels to me
like broken family.
421
00:24:23,137 --> 00:24:23,896
I can't...
422
00:24:25,413 --> 00:24:26,482
I can't fix it.
423
00:24:27,413 --> 00:24:28,793
My own optimism
or something
424
00:24:28,793 --> 00:24:31,344
wants me to just say,
well, it's meant
to be this way now.
425
00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:33,551
And you know, these people
426
00:24:33,551 --> 00:24:36,793
that are here together
can work out
the relationship. It's time.
427
00:24:36,793 --> 00:24:39,103
And they can work out
the relationship with me.
428
00:24:39,103 --> 00:24:41,137
And, it's complicated.
429
00:24:43,689 --> 00:24:47,034
The relationship
doesn't end in my family.
430
00:24:47,034 --> 00:24:49,103
But something
about it has ended.
431
00:24:50,206 --> 00:24:51,758
And it's an ending.
432
00:24:52,344 --> 00:24:54,103
And that's sort of sad.
433
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:12,931
Hey.
434
00:25:12,931 --> 00:25:15,379
- Hey, Mom.
- Oh, hey. Okay. Awesome.
435
00:25:15,379 --> 00:25:18,931
'Cause I wanna plant these
pota-- our tomatoes today.
436
00:25:18,931 --> 00:25:21,724
- Can you lift
it after it's full?
- Yeah.
437
00:25:21,724 --> 00:25:24,310
Okay. I'm gonna
bring the rest in.
438
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:27,034
I went ahead
and got big plants,
'cause we're like a week late.
439
00:25:27,862 --> 00:25:29,379
For my birthday this year,
440
00:25:29,379 --> 00:25:32,793
the boys and all
my kids contributed
to building this planter boxes
441
00:25:32,793 --> 00:25:34,310
for me in Garrison's yard.
442
00:25:35,034 --> 00:25:36,448
And ta-da.
443
00:25:36,448 --> 00:25:38,931
'Cause you know I love basil.
Check it out.
444
00:25:38,931 --> 00:25:40,620
- Well, that's a big one.
- It's multiple.
445
00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:42,413
It should keep us
in basil all summer.
446
00:25:42,413 --> 00:25:45,275
I live in an apartment now.
I love gardening.
447
00:25:45,275 --> 00:25:47,206
It's just a sanity
thing for me.
448
00:25:47,206 --> 00:25:49,068
So, they built me
a little space to garden.
449
00:25:49,068 --> 00:25:52,965
So, I'm gonna be putting
just a few plants in,
in Garrison's yard.
450
00:25:52,965 --> 00:25:56,103
So, I think this will
be enough zucchini
and tomatoes for just us.
451
00:25:56,103 --> 00:25:58,655
- And then...
- Definitely have zucchini
and tomatoes for us.
452
00:25:58,655 --> 00:26:01,241
- May be even
for our neighbors.
- Can you pull that, at all?
453
00:26:01,241 --> 00:26:03,344
- Pull this now?
- I'll get the clip...
I'll get the clippers.
454
00:26:03,344 --> 00:26:05,344
I can't pull it out.
I don't think.
455
00:26:05,344 --> 00:26:06,655
Can you at least chop it off?
456
00:26:06,655 --> 00:26:08,827
- Yeah, I can
cut it down here at the root.
- Okay.
457
00:26:08,827 --> 00:26:11,241
So, a month ago, Kody and I
went out for my birthday.
458
00:26:11,241 --> 00:26:12,620
I was glad he called.
459
00:26:12,620 --> 00:26:14,931
I didn't have anything
going on that evening.
460
00:26:14,931 --> 00:26:17,965
I wasn't expecting reconciliation.
I didn't want it.
461
00:26:17,965 --> 00:26:21,448
So we went out. We had
a good time, but we haven't
really gone out since then.
462
00:26:21,448 --> 00:26:23,000
I want it to be easy tonight.
463
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,482
- Oh, you don't wanna
talk about anything?
- No.
464
00:26:25,482 --> 00:26:27,137
- Wanna be...
- Let's just be easy.
465
00:26:27,137 --> 00:26:28,586
We're not seeking it out.
466
00:26:28,586 --> 00:26:30,482
I'm not hoping
he's gonna call me.
467
00:26:30,482 --> 00:26:33,689
I don't think he even really
thinks about me very
much, to be honest with you.
468
00:26:33,689 --> 00:26:36,931
He's got his...
He's got a whole life going
on over at Robyn's house.
469
00:26:36,931 --> 00:26:40,620
You know,
I just think it's nothing.
It's just... It's... It's...
470
00:26:42,344 --> 00:26:44,034
I mean, we're friendly
when we have to be.
471
00:26:44,034 --> 00:26:46,793
But, there's no
connection really.
472
00:26:46,793 --> 00:26:49,931
So, I got two tomatoes
and three zucchini.
473
00:26:49,931 --> 00:26:52,000
- So it's just gonna
be no...
- Even with just,
474
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,620
these two, we're gonna
have more tomatoes
than we need.
475
00:26:54,620 --> 00:26:56,793
And, 'cause Gwen told me
she's not coming, right?
476
00:26:56,793 --> 00:26:58,344
Yeah, Gwen's not moving in.
477
00:26:58,344 --> 00:26:59,931
- Um...
- I get it.
478
00:26:59,931 --> 00:27:03,172
It might have been like,
a lot for her to live
with her brothers.
479
00:27:03,172 --> 00:27:06,482
Yeah, plus she never
had to live with
me and Garrison either.
480
00:27:06,482 --> 00:27:08,517
She always only
had to do with Paedon.
481
00:27:08,517 --> 00:27:10,827
Believe it or not,
Gabriel is my gardener.
482
00:27:10,827 --> 00:27:12,379
He really loves doing it.
483
00:27:12,379 --> 00:27:14,689
I planted, um,
for a couple of years.
484
00:27:14,689 --> 00:27:17,965
And, Gabriel was always
my one who was out
there helpin' me.
485
00:27:17,965 --> 00:27:19,689
We, then look for bugs.
486
00:27:19,689 --> 00:27:22,103
And try to problem-solve
the gardens.
487
00:27:22,103 --> 00:27:23,103
So, he loves it.
488
00:27:23,103 --> 00:27:24,931
He's like my gardening kid.
489
00:27:24,931 --> 00:27:26,551
You guys haven't seen...
I don't think you guys
490
00:27:26,551 --> 00:27:28,379
have seen your dad
for a while, right?
491
00:27:28,379 --> 00:27:29,724
- Nope.
- Have you heard from him?
492
00:27:29,724 --> 00:27:30,896
Nope.
493
00:27:30,896 --> 00:27:33,206
No, my kids have
not talked to their dad.
494
00:27:33,206 --> 00:27:34,793
They generally ignore him.
495
00:27:34,793 --> 00:27:38,689
Because, they're like,
"What's the point of having
a conversation with him?"
496
00:27:38,689 --> 00:27:41,241
I remember him saying
something along the lines of,
497
00:27:41,241 --> 00:27:43,965
he only cares
about his minor children
or something like that.
498
00:27:43,965 --> 00:27:45,000
So...
499
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,310
What I said to Gabriel,
once you are out of my--
500
00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:50,655
like, graduated
from high school,
501
00:27:50,655 --> 00:27:53,724
my obligation to you shifts.
502
00:27:53,724 --> 00:27:56,586
It's an obligation
of mutual respect.
503
00:27:56,586 --> 00:27:59,172
If the relationship goes bad,
then it's like, go get
your own place.
504
00:27:59,931 --> 00:28:01,655
We're all grown adults...
505
00:28:01,655 --> 00:28:04,448
that don't need
a father figure anymore.
506
00:28:04,448 --> 00:28:06,793
You don't belong in my home,
if you can't respect me.
507
00:28:06,793 --> 00:28:09,586
Remember, it's my home.
It's not yours.
508
00:28:09,586 --> 00:28:14,068
I think Kody is getting
exactly what he puts
into the relationship.
509
00:28:15,482 --> 00:28:18,000
You know what?
I bought a second
kind of potting soil.
510
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,448
Let's try the other
tomato in it.
511
00:28:20,448 --> 00:28:23,000
And see if it makes
a difference,
as an experiment.
512
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,241
Since this garden
is kind of a new
concept for us
513
00:28:25,241 --> 00:28:27,758
- in this little urban space.
- Okay.
514
00:28:27,758 --> 00:28:30,827
So you know, I haven't really
spoken to Robyn or Meri
515
00:28:30,827 --> 00:28:33,758
since that conversation
how Robyn spoke
to, about a year ago.
516
00:28:34,482 --> 00:28:36,103
I've gone 18 months
517
00:28:36,103 --> 00:28:38,689
being persecuted
by my own family,
518
00:28:38,689 --> 00:28:40,586
for trying to protect them.
519
00:28:40,586 --> 00:28:42,620
- It does not leave...
- My heart is broken.
520
00:28:42,620 --> 00:28:45,241
Christine left
because of this.
521
00:28:45,241 --> 00:28:48,275
- I just survived a really,
really dark place.
- I understand that.
522
00:28:48,275 --> 00:28:50,689
You don't give
a [bleep] though.
Look at you.
523
00:28:50,689 --> 00:28:52,310
- Dismissing it.
- Okay.
524
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:54,275
- Would you ever have
any empathy for me?
- Please don't leave.
525
00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:55,689
- Can we just
get talking first?
- When you're in pain,
526
00:28:55,689 --> 00:28:57,275
- I try to understand you.
- Kody...
527
00:28:57,275 --> 00:28:59,275
Can we please keep
talking, Janelle, please?
528
00:28:59,275 --> 00:29:03,379
Janelle, this is a really
bad idea for you
to walk off on this one.
529
00:29:03,379 --> 00:29:05,000
I haven't sought them out.
They haven't sought me out.
530
00:29:05,931 --> 00:29:07,551
Robyn and I never really had--
531
00:29:07,551 --> 00:29:09,241
We could be...
We were great team players.
532
00:29:09,241 --> 00:29:11,172
We could work together
for the good of the family.
533
00:29:11,172 --> 00:29:13,586
But I never connected
with her on a friend level.
534
00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:15,620
She's ten years
younger than I am.
535
00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:17,896
Her kids were
younger than mine.
536
00:29:17,896 --> 00:29:20,310
We just didn't even
like the same things.
537
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:22,310
Or you know, I mean,
we just weren't similar.
538
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:24,862
But we could be great
team players
for the sake of the family.
539
00:29:24,862 --> 00:29:27,413
Meri and I have always had
personality differences.
540
00:29:27,413 --> 00:29:28,620
And that's okay.
541
00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:31,551
But I don't need to really
seek her out now.
542
00:29:31,551 --> 00:29:33,034
There's gotta be
some sort of a joke
543
00:29:33,034 --> 00:29:35,379
about how many
sister wives does it take
to assemble a tree.
544
00:29:35,379 --> 00:29:37,275
- Do you see how
there's a little notch?
- Yeah.
545
00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:39,206
And there's a little thing.
546
00:29:39,206 --> 00:29:42,172
Look, I still have
family with Christine.
547
00:29:42,172 --> 00:29:45,172
We still see each other.
The kids are interacting.
548
00:29:45,172 --> 00:29:47,586
It feels very normal
when we're together.
549
00:29:47,586 --> 00:29:49,103
It feels like old times,
550
00:29:49,103 --> 00:29:50,827
without all
the periphery drama.
551
00:29:50,827 --> 00:29:53,068
Yeah, I mean, right now,
I feel like that's my family.
552
00:29:53,068 --> 00:29:54,793
I feel like that's where
I find family.
553
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,206
You know, I don't know,
there's something
554
00:29:58,206 --> 00:30:00,206
very peaceful for me
about gardening.
555
00:30:00,206 --> 00:30:02,000
You put the plants in.
556
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,413
You water them. They grow.
557
00:30:04,413 --> 00:30:07,931
'Kay, well, this will be our
experiment with
the different soil
558
00:30:07,931 --> 00:30:10,000
for this zucchini.
559
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,793
I don't know. Something about
being there with the living
plant, the living things,
560
00:30:13,793 --> 00:30:15,655
just kind of brings
my stress level down,
561
00:30:15,655 --> 00:30:19,551
like 15 notches
or something, you know.
562
00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:22,931
At some point, I would
really like to put some
greenhouses on the property.
563
00:30:22,931 --> 00:30:25,517
And actually run more
of a small scale operation.
564
00:30:25,517 --> 00:30:28,206
That's kind of my,
second generation
of my life,
565
00:30:28,206 --> 00:30:30,241
or the second part
of my life or something. I...
566
00:30:30,241 --> 00:30:33,275
I would love to be
engaged full time
in the growing of plants.
567
00:30:33,275 --> 00:30:35,586
Yeah. I mean, at this point
I'll be really happy
568
00:30:35,586 --> 00:30:37,448
if we can even freaking
pay off the property.
569
00:30:37,448 --> 00:30:40,206
'Cause I'm just getting
crickets or I'm getting
the runaround
570
00:30:40,206 --> 00:30:41,896
when I still ask about it.
571
00:30:41,896 --> 00:30:43,758
We're gonna get
the property paid off.
572
00:30:43,758 --> 00:30:46,586
I mean, Janelle sits
and pesters me
about it all the time.
573
00:30:46,586 --> 00:30:48,310
She's...
574
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:50,482
asking, asking,
asking, pestering.
575
00:30:50,482 --> 00:30:52,137
But not really helping.
576
00:30:52,137 --> 00:30:54,931
I mean,
the clock is ticking.
The loan comes due in a year.
577
00:30:54,931 --> 00:30:57,344
I hope they're not stupid
enough to let it slip away.
578
00:30:57,344 --> 00:30:58,931
After all, we've put
so much money in it.
579
00:31:00,206 --> 00:31:02,689
Robyn and I still
intend to build there.
580
00:31:02,689 --> 00:31:03,896
Anything is possible
at this point.
581
00:31:03,896 --> 00:31:05,172
I don't recognize
these people
582
00:31:05,172 --> 00:31:07,068
who used to be--
I used to be a family with,
583
00:31:07,068 --> 00:31:09,344
as far as their priorities
and thought processes.
584
00:31:14,034 --> 00:31:15,827
I'm gonna cry.
585
00:31:15,827 --> 00:31:17,448
Why are you crying
in this moment?
586
00:31:17,448 --> 00:31:19,413
Are you not excited
to ride a bike?
587
00:31:19,413 --> 00:31:21,241
Truely still does not know
how to ride a bike.
588
00:31:21,241 --> 00:31:22,793
She had a disastrous...
589
00:31:23,448 --> 00:31:24,448
first attempt.
590
00:31:24,448 --> 00:31:26,068
We're not
letting go today.
591
00:31:26,068 --> 00:31:28,620
- That's for another day.
- Okay. If you're not ready,
we won't let go today.
592
00:31:39,344 --> 00:31:40,827
Uh, we gonna go learn
in the parking lot?
593
00:31:40,827 --> 00:31:42,206
- Or right here?
- No, right here.
594
00:31:42,206 --> 00:31:44,551
We gonna go and live
in the parking lot.
That's what I heard.
595
00:31:44,551 --> 00:31:45,827
It's just been a busy week.
596
00:31:45,827 --> 00:31:48,172
Mykelti told us earlier
that she's pregnant
with twins.
597
00:31:48,172 --> 00:31:50,586
Truely had a birthday
party in Flagstaff.
598
00:31:50,586 --> 00:31:53,103
For her birthday,
she asked me
to give her a bike.
599
00:31:53,103 --> 00:31:56,034
So she's ready to learn
how to ride a bike now.
600
00:31:56,034 --> 00:31:57,206
It's a big deal.
601
00:31:57,206 --> 00:31:58,724
Oh, do I need
to wear a helmet?
602
00:31:58,724 --> 00:32:00,275
Do I need to wear
a helmet to teach her?
603
00:32:00,275 --> 00:32:01,827
Paedon, you don't need to...
604
00:32:01,827 --> 00:32:03,448
No, you don't need to wear
a helmet to teach her
how to ride a bike.
605
00:32:03,448 --> 00:32:04,241
You sure about that?
606
00:32:04,241 --> 00:32:05,758
Okay, look.
607
00:32:05,758 --> 00:32:07,758
Truely still doesn't know
how to ride a bike.
608
00:32:07,758 --> 00:32:10,931
She had a disastrous...
first attempt,
609
00:32:10,931 --> 00:32:13,620
with Kody
and it was... terrible.
610
00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:15,413
I heard all about it.
611
00:32:15,413 --> 00:32:17,896
- Do you want
to practice on soils instead?
- No.
612
00:32:17,896 --> 00:32:20,172
You know I
don't wanna do this.
613
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:22,275
There's no crying
in baseball, sweetheart.
614
00:32:23,172 --> 00:32:24,965
This isn't baseball.
This is--
615
00:32:24,965 --> 00:32:27,068
This is bike riding.
It's easier than baseball.
616
00:32:27,068 --> 00:32:28,482
I really struggled
with Truely.
617
00:32:28,482 --> 00:32:30,724
She wasn't really
connecting to the experience.
618
00:32:30,724 --> 00:32:32,517
She didn't really
wanna do it.
619
00:32:32,517 --> 00:32:33,965
And I'm trying to push her.
620
00:32:33,965 --> 00:32:37,172
You know, it's like,
sometimes you gotta push
a child as a parent.
621
00:32:37,965 --> 00:32:39,206
Listen. I love her.
622
00:32:39,206 --> 00:32:42,172
And, that wasn't our favorite
experience together.
623
00:32:43,551 --> 00:32:45,241
I'm gonna cry.
624
00:32:45,241 --> 00:32:46,793
Why are you
crying in this moment?
625
00:32:46,793 --> 00:32:48,793
Are you not excited
to ride a bike?
626
00:32:49,655 --> 00:32:51,379
- No.
- Why?
627
00:32:51,379 --> 00:32:53,724
Because I wish that I
learned when I was five.
628
00:32:53,724 --> 00:32:56,137
You're fine.
Things happen sometimes.
629
00:32:56,137 --> 00:32:59,448
Just recently, I talked to her
about riding a bike again.
630
00:32:59,448 --> 00:33:00,896
So I'm like, you're 12.
631
00:33:00,896 --> 00:33:04,344
I think that you riding
a bike would be,
you know, a good thing.
632
00:33:04,344 --> 00:33:08,413
And she is ready
to try and ride a bike again.
633
00:33:08,413 --> 00:33:09,862
'Kay, look at me
in my eyeballs.
634
00:33:09,862 --> 00:33:13,586
We just need you to move
forward using the, um, pedals.
635
00:33:13,586 --> 00:33:15,620
- Forwards. Not backwards.
- I know how
to use a pedal.
636
00:33:15,620 --> 00:33:17,172
Just sounds super scary.
637
00:33:17,172 --> 00:33:20,068
Having to balance
on two wheels, she's like,
that doesn't sound natural.
638
00:33:20,068 --> 00:33:23,034
- I'm too
short for this.
- You're not.
639
00:33:23,034 --> 00:33:25,724
I think it'll take five days
to learn how to ride a bike.
640
00:33:25,724 --> 00:33:28,068
Most likely more.
641
00:33:28,068 --> 00:33:30,965
I'm gonna be realistic here.
Most likely more.
642
00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:31,827
We're not letting go.
643
00:33:31,827 --> 00:33:33,448
- You're not...
- Keep pedaling.
644
00:33:33,448 --> 00:33:34,862
Nicely done, Truely.
645
00:33:34,862 --> 00:33:36,827
- You're turning.
- Nice to see you turn.
646
00:33:36,827 --> 00:33:39,379
Truely has an amazing
support system here in Utah.
647
00:33:41,448 --> 00:33:43,241
It's everything that I
wanted for her to have.
648
00:33:43,241 --> 00:33:45,379
She's surrounded with people
that just love her.
649
00:33:45,379 --> 00:33:48,068
And loves spending time
with her all the time.
650
00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:49,965
It's everything that I
hoped to give her.
651
00:33:49,965 --> 00:33:53,965
It's what I've been able
to give her. Which is amazing.
652
00:33:53,965 --> 00:33:56,793
We're not letting go today.
That's for another day.
653
00:33:56,793 --> 00:33:59,000
Okay. If you're
not ready, we won't
let go today. It's fine.
654
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,172
Hey, you're not gonna fall.
655
00:34:00,172 --> 00:34:01,689
I know that. I know that.
656
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:03,620
Her falling off a bike...
657
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:05,758
is going to happen.
658
00:34:05,758 --> 00:34:08,068
There's no way
to get around this.
659
00:34:08,068 --> 00:34:09,413
Put your foot down.
660
00:34:09,413 --> 00:34:11,068
- Hold me.
- Put your foot down.
661
00:34:11,068 --> 00:34:13,310
I... That's what I'm do--
662
00:34:13,310 --> 00:34:14,241
Stop. I'm right here.
663
00:34:14,793 --> 00:34:16,206
She's fine.
664
00:34:16,206 --> 00:34:18,034
And this is not me
forcing her.
665
00:34:18,034 --> 00:34:21,137
This is me backing her up.
666
00:34:21,137 --> 00:34:22,793
You let go.
667
00:34:22,793 --> 00:34:25,275
- No. I don't think...
- Yep. Just like this.
668
00:34:25,275 --> 00:34:26,517
This is what I want you to do.
669
00:34:26,517 --> 00:34:28,655
- No. I don't think--
- You're not even
gonna use the pedal.
670
00:34:28,655 --> 00:34:29,551
- Truely...
- You got this.
671
00:34:29,551 --> 00:34:31,310
Once Truely says
she's done,
672
00:34:31,310 --> 00:34:33,482
then I'm gonna
let her be done.
673
00:34:33,482 --> 00:34:34,862
I want you
to stay on your feet.
674
00:34:34,862 --> 00:34:36,344
Sit down and walk.
675
00:34:39,034 --> 00:34:40,655
Yeah,
I'm still on my toes.
676
00:34:40,655 --> 00:34:41,655
- You're doing great.
- Keep going.
677
00:34:41,655 --> 00:34:43,448
I'm not gonna force
her beyond her comfort.
678
00:34:43,448 --> 00:34:44,827
That was already done.
679
00:34:44,827 --> 00:34:46,758
Been there, done that.
We're not gonna
do that today.
680
00:34:46,758 --> 00:34:48,482
Nope.
I need to be taller.
681
00:34:48,482 --> 00:34:50,862
Let's wait until
I'm taller to ride this.
682
00:34:50,862 --> 00:34:52,137
- No, Truely. You can do this.
- No, you got this.
683
00:34:52,137 --> 00:34:53,758
- Let's wait
until I'm taller.
- You're doing it.
684
00:34:53,758 --> 00:34:55,482
- One more year.
- Yesterday,
you said tomorrow.
685
00:34:55,482 --> 00:34:58,413
We only have
to wait one more year.
And then I'll be taller.
686
00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:00,862
Guys, we only have
to wait one more year
and then I'm tall.
687
00:35:00,862 --> 00:35:02,448
Yeah,
then you'll be 13.
688
00:35:02,448 --> 00:35:03,931
- Believe in yourself.
- You got this.
689
00:35:03,931 --> 00:35:06,137
- One more year
and then I'm taller.
- 'Kay. Everybody,
690
00:35:06,137 --> 00:35:07,724
Truely needs less voices.
691
00:35:07,724 --> 00:35:09,275
- Okay.
- She just needs to do it.
692
00:35:09,275 --> 00:35:12,620
That is literally the nicest
way I've ever heard
anybody say shut up.
693
00:35:15,172 --> 00:35:16,482
None of us doubt Mitch.
694
00:35:16,482 --> 00:35:18,413
When Mitch opens his mouth,
695
00:35:18,413 --> 00:35:20,482
we all respect
what Mitch has to say.
696
00:35:20,482 --> 00:35:22,448
Because Mitch
doesn't talk that much.
697
00:35:23,896 --> 00:35:25,724
Yeah, pedal slower.
You're just speeding it up.
698
00:35:26,724 --> 00:35:28,448
'Kay.
699
00:35:28,448 --> 00:35:30,379
You're doing great.
You wanna take
a break for a bit?
700
00:35:30,827 --> 00:35:31,896
Yeah.
701
00:35:31,896 --> 00:35:34,034
Dang it.
702
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,517
Dang it.
703
00:35:36,517 --> 00:35:39,931
Okay. So let's just have
a real conversation
with me for just a minute.
704
00:35:39,931 --> 00:35:42,862
You... I can't tell you.
You progressed so much.
705
00:35:43,413 --> 00:35:45,137
We saw it.
706
00:35:45,137 --> 00:35:47,965
And you progressed tons.
You can...
707
00:35:47,965 --> 00:35:49,482
- You did great.
- Thanks, Mum.
708
00:35:49,482 --> 00:35:51,206
That was a great
effort, love. I loved it.
709
00:35:51,206 --> 00:35:53,379
- Thank you, Mum.
- Was Mitch's help...
How was Mitch's help?
710
00:35:53,379 --> 00:35:54,793
- It was good.
Thanks, Mitch.
- Was it?
711
00:35:54,793 --> 00:35:56,724
Thanks, Mitch.
Yeah, it was good.
712
00:35:56,724 --> 00:36:01,000
To be completely honest,
I really thought that she
would ride a bike today.
713
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,344
As you think walking
back and forth,
714
00:36:02,344 --> 00:36:04,620
like when Mitch was walking
with you back and forth,
715
00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:07,413
- then you got acclimated
to the bike. Did that help?
- Yeah.
716
00:36:07,413 --> 00:36:08,655
- Yeah.
- Awesome.
717
00:36:08,655 --> 00:36:10,482
What do you think
we can do to work on,
718
00:36:10,482 --> 00:36:12,206
like, just more, next time
we do this?
719
00:36:12,206 --> 00:36:14,068
What do you think would be
the best thing we could do?
720
00:36:14,068 --> 00:36:16,310
I don't wanna go too far
721
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:18,620
on the... on the road.
722
00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:20,172
Because it slopes down.
723
00:36:20,172 --> 00:36:22,137
- Oh, okay.
- And I don't wanna fall.
724
00:36:22,137 --> 00:36:23,827
- Sure. Sure.
- I hope I don't fall.
725
00:36:23,827 --> 00:36:25,241
Well, everyone falls.
726
00:36:25,241 --> 00:36:27,586
It happens. Everyone falls
when they learn
how to ride a bike.
727
00:36:27,586 --> 00:36:28,551
You just get up again.
728
00:36:29,793 --> 00:36:31,448
She'll learn how
to ride a bike.
729
00:36:31,448 --> 00:36:34,827
You know, it's...
And it's just more about
having that support anyway.
730
00:36:34,827 --> 00:36:37,379
Be able to get her
and understand her.
731
00:36:37,931 --> 00:36:38,931
And she's got that here.
732
00:36:40,241 --> 00:36:41,413
Let's go. We're done.
733
00:36:41,413 --> 00:36:43,206
- Thanks, everyone.
- Let's go inside.
734
00:36:43,206 --> 00:36:44,758
- Good job, Truely.
That was awesome.
- Good job, kid.
735
00:36:44,758 --> 00:36:46,034
- Thanks.
- Let's go inside.
736
00:36:47,827 --> 00:36:50,413
In our religious background,
737
00:36:50,413 --> 00:36:52,172
and when he and I got married,
738
00:36:52,172 --> 00:36:56,689
we married
with the intention of forever.
739
00:36:56,689 --> 00:37:00,482
I feel like that he's like,
well, I'm just not interested.
740
00:37:00,482 --> 00:37:01,896
You can stick around
if you want.
741
00:37:01,896 --> 00:37:05,000
But I'm like, but why
would I want to do that...
742
00:37:05,896 --> 00:37:06,931
eternally?
743
00:37:21,896 --> 00:37:25,344
So, not too long ago,
was mine and Kody's
32nd anniversary.
744
00:37:25,344 --> 00:37:29,310
And so, he did pick me up
and we went to dinner.
745
00:37:30,482 --> 00:37:32,758
He actually said to me...
746
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,758
"I have no desire, Meri,
747
00:37:36,758 --> 00:37:39,655
to have
a relationship with you."
748
00:37:41,413 --> 00:37:43,137
Early in our marriage,
749
00:37:43,137 --> 00:37:44,517
I had a lot of doubt.
750
00:37:45,586 --> 00:37:46,931
Like...
751
00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:50,206
Are you always
going to love me,
kind of, emotions.
752
00:37:50,206 --> 00:37:51,620
You know what I mean?
753
00:37:51,620 --> 00:37:54,103
And he used
to be very, very good
754
00:37:54,103 --> 00:37:55,827
at reassuring me.
755
00:37:55,827 --> 00:37:57,931
No, Meri. You are my person.
756
00:37:57,931 --> 00:37:59,758
I love you.
I'm in love with you.
757
00:37:59,758 --> 00:38:01,137
I will love you forever.
758
00:38:02,517 --> 00:38:04,827
The fact that we
loved each other
759
00:38:04,827 --> 00:38:10,275
and the fact that we made
this commitment to each other,
760
00:38:10,275 --> 00:38:14,068
I thought that that would mean
something to him.
761
00:38:16,655 --> 00:38:18,103
- Hi.
- Hi.
762
00:38:19,724 --> 00:38:20,517
Beautiful.
763
00:38:27,965 --> 00:38:29,241
He has said to me,
764
00:38:29,241 --> 00:38:31,034
"I never loved you,
765
00:38:31,034 --> 00:38:32,827
and I never felt
like that about you.
766
00:38:32,827 --> 00:38:35,310
Like, I was trying
to affirm it."
767
00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:38,000
That was his words,
"I was just
trying to affirm it."
768
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,931
It's like, that's a bunch
of [bleep].
769
00:38:39,931 --> 00:38:41,862
Ask anybody that we know.
770
00:38:43,482 --> 00:38:45,482
Ask anybody who saw us,
771
00:38:45,482 --> 00:38:46,931
in our early years,
772
00:38:46,931 --> 00:38:48,758
even ten years ago.
773
00:38:48,758 --> 00:38:51,620
And they would know
that that was just
a bunch of crap
774
00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:53,379
that he's spewing to...
775
00:38:54,413 --> 00:38:56,379
maybe to try to justify
776
00:38:56,379 --> 00:38:57,655
how he feels now.
777
00:39:01,068 --> 00:39:02,172
In our...
778
00:39:03,034 --> 00:39:04,413
religious background,
779
00:39:04,413 --> 00:39:06,241
and when he and I
got married,
780
00:39:06,241 --> 00:39:10,586
we married
with the intention of forever.
781
00:39:10,586 --> 00:39:12,724
Literally was
an eternal covenant.
782
00:39:13,965 --> 00:39:14,689
And...
783
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,724
I feel like that he's like,
well, I'm just not interested.
784
00:39:19,724 --> 00:39:21,103
You can stick around
if you want.
785
00:39:21,103 --> 00:39:24,172
But I'm like, but why
would I want to do that...
786
00:39:25,172 --> 00:39:26,241
eternally?
787
00:39:27,620 --> 00:39:29,620
Be with somebody
who really just
788
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:32,000
has changed his mind about me.
789
00:39:32,689 --> 00:39:34,517
Like, our marriage is...
790
00:39:35,827 --> 00:39:38,310
like, done. Like,
you can stick around,
791
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:39,620
and you can come visit,
792
00:39:39,620 --> 00:39:42,965
me and Robyn
and the kids
if you want. But...
793
00:39:42,965 --> 00:39:46,103
we're never gonna
have a marriage
relationship anymore.
794
00:39:46,103 --> 00:39:49,724
So, I feel like I always
had a pretty good
relationship with Robyn.
795
00:39:49,724 --> 00:39:52,034
And I freaking love her kids.
796
00:39:52,034 --> 00:39:54,034
I have every intention
797
00:39:54,034 --> 00:39:57,724
to still keep a good
relationship with those kids.
798
00:39:58,275 --> 00:39:59,310
You know.
799
00:39:59,310 --> 00:40:00,103
As long as...
800
00:40:01,344 --> 00:40:04,724
she and Kody are willing
to let me, you know.
801
00:40:04,724 --> 00:40:08,724
But I said to him,
"Well, why don't we,
because our life is public.
802
00:40:09,344 --> 00:40:10,655
like...
803
00:40:10,655 --> 00:40:13,689
why don't we just be real
open and honest about this?"
804
00:40:13,689 --> 00:40:17,103
And that we
should discuss this,
and that we should...
805
00:40:18,103 --> 00:40:19,620
like...
806
00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:22,655
really be open about
our story with this,
807
00:40:22,655 --> 00:40:25,137
and he said, "No,
I don't want to do that."
808
00:40:25,137 --> 00:40:26,965
He said, "I just have
so much criticism,
809
00:40:26,965 --> 00:40:29,448
I don't want to be open
or vocal about it.
810
00:40:29,448 --> 00:40:31,000
Let's just keep
this between us."
811
00:40:34,655 --> 00:40:38,000
I'm not gonna go
the rest of my life
hiding the fact that...
812
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,103
this is the way
that our relationship is.
813
00:40:42,896 --> 00:40:45,137
And hiding the fact
that you said to me,
814
00:40:45,137 --> 00:40:48,896
you don't wanna ever have
a relationship with me.
815
00:40:49,827 --> 00:40:51,724
This is my story too.
816
00:40:52,758 --> 00:40:55,103
And I have the right
to tell my story.
817
00:40:57,482 --> 00:40:59,000
Happy anniversary to me.
818
00:40:59,655 --> 00:41:00,793
Weird.
819
00:41:01,862 --> 00:41:05,344
Basically to me,
I see two options.
820
00:41:05,344 --> 00:41:08,965
Continue living like
I have for the past
eight years or so,
821
00:41:08,965 --> 00:41:13,586
which is a freaking amazing,
badass, independent person,
822
00:41:13,586 --> 00:41:17,793
that is officially
married to somebody.
823
00:41:17,793 --> 00:41:20,103
But not emotionally, right?
824
00:41:21,172 --> 00:41:22,448
And I can keep doing that.
825
00:41:23,965 --> 00:41:26,931
Or, I can terminate it.
826
00:41:26,931 --> 00:41:30,448
I can take the steps
to move forward
to be done with it.
827
00:41:30,448 --> 00:41:33,000
And that doesn't sit well
with my values.
828
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,172
Because I didn't marry Kody
829
00:41:36,172 --> 00:41:37,862
and make
this eternal covenant,
830
00:41:37,862 --> 00:41:40,413
just to be like,
mmm, it's not working for us.
831
00:41:40,413 --> 00:41:41,413
I think I'll peace out.
832
00:41:43,482 --> 00:41:45,931
And right now, I don't know
what to do about it.
833
00:41:47,379 --> 00:41:49,068
I have no idea
what to do about it.
834
00:41:53,068 --> 00:41:55,448
Next time
on Sister Wives...
835
00:41:55,448 --> 00:41:57,689
Welcome to my party.
836
00:41:58,379 --> 00:42:00,206
In a way, this feels like,
837
00:42:00,206 --> 00:42:02,068
a declaration of independence,
838
00:42:02,068 --> 00:42:04,275
for this new life
that she's got.
839
00:42:04,275 --> 00:42:07,275
I love being single.
840
00:42:07,275 --> 00:42:08,517
I'm dating a bit.
841
00:42:08,896 --> 00:42:10,206
Just fun.
842
00:42:10,206 --> 00:42:13,379
You know, so Kody
wants to come over
and see the new apartment
843
00:42:13,379 --> 00:42:15,034
that I've moved in to.
844
00:42:15,034 --> 00:42:18,137
At this point, I don't really
see Kody in the equation.
845
00:42:18,137 --> 00:42:19,931
I look into
this apartment, I'm like,
846
00:42:19,931 --> 00:42:22,068
it's really obvious to me,
I'm never gonna live in it.
847
00:42:22,896 --> 00:42:24,103
I'm not even welcome here.
848
00:42:24,103 --> 00:42:25,482
That's why it's so awkward.
849
00:42:27,275 --> 00:42:29,551
We really haven't had
850
00:42:29,551 --> 00:42:32,620
any sort of marriage
for like, eight years.
851
00:42:32,620 --> 00:42:34,724
I don't know what
the future looks like.
852
00:42:34,724 --> 00:42:36,586
Screw him. He's not worth it.