[narrator] Previously on Sister Wives: One on One...
I went to the other wives and said,
"Anybody who wants to leave,
you're free to go."
And that even made Meri mad.
So you felt like you were out in the dark--
I didn't know that he was completely done.
He's like, "No. I felt like this a long time ago."
I'm like, "You should have told me."
I think Robyn and I are giving her different messages.
Like, we're not on the same page on this.
[crying] Sorry. I don't know how to let this go.
And this isn't me just being dramatic.
Thank you, Christine.
I have looked back
and I have dissected my relationship with Robyn.
Her personality type loves drama.
They love drama. They love talking about their drama.
I was getting to the point where
if you had a complaint about her,
I'd be like, "Shut up. I will punch you in the mouth."
And that's where it started to get really weird
because, all of a sudden,
it's almost like I have this paragon of a wife.
She just does everything right.
[squeals] So I'm engaged to--
I know. Engaged! I'm engaged.
I'm getting married to the love of my life.
-Can you show us that ring? -And then-- Yes.
I met the love of my life. I did.
How different is the relationship with David
than was with with Kody?
David loves me.
He loves me.
[Sukanya Krishnan] This is Sister Wives: One on One.
[director] Rolling cameras. Rolling sound please.
[cameraman] Okay, rolling here.
Since Christine has left, she's been able to find her soulmate.
Mmm-hmm.
Do you think you will too?
I have hope that I will find somebody
to share my life with, yeah.
-Have you met her... -Yeah. Yeah.
-...boyfriend? -I met him a couple of times, yeah.
He seems nice.
I haven't really gotten to know him.
But I've met him a couple of times.
What do you think about them getting married?
I'm excited for them.
-She's got a ring on it. -She's...
Yeah, she does.
She seems very happy
and I'm excited for her.
I'm excited for her. I want her to be happy.
-Speaking of Christine... -Yeah.
...have you met David?
Yes. Oh, I think he's great.
I really do like David.
I've met him.
We've hung out.
-Yeah. -And the more I interact with him,
I'm like, "Wow. He's a really great guy."
He's just a breath of fresh air,
-really, with Christine. -Yeah.
He's a breath of fresh air. And she said to me,
um-- and I'm sorry, Christine, if I'm telling any...
um...
she said, "I did not know what it was like
to be loved like this."
So there. I'll share that little detail.
I met David for 15 minutes.
Had a conversation, a very mild, light conversation.
He mostly talked with Robyn.
-Okay. -Uh, she thought he was very sweet.
And I think he's-- you know,
Christine's chosen him,
so I think that it's a good match.
I mean, but I know nothing.
Mmm-hmm. Do you remember the lunch you guys had?
-Me and Christine? -Yeah.
-Yeah.
-I know, uh-- -The one where I'm like,
"I think you'd drive a truck over me if you could."
-Mmm. Yeah. -And she laughs hysterically, cynically.
I was in a pretty bad place and I didn't like her at all.
-Yeah. -And I wish for her the absolute best.
I hope for her all the happiness in life.
But...
That was a hard conversation. It was a hard lunch.
I want you to take a look
and, uh, let's talk about it after.
Okay.
[Kody] Seeing Christine for the first time,
it's like, "Hey, how are ya?
Well, it's a little uncomfortable.
But, um, I hope you're doing well."
I feel so betrayed after all that I have done for this marriage.
And then to have her sort of [bleep]-talk me to the kids,
I kind of feel like...
in my heart,
I just never wanna see her again.
And I wanna spend some time hating her.
-So Gwendlyn's not gonna be here for Christmas. -Mmm-mmm.
Well, I was sick during her birthday with, uh--
I was laid up with Covid.
[laughing] And you were also out of it. She was...
Was she thinking that was funny, too?
I was out of my mind.
-[laughing] Sorry, I'm-- -But when I talked about getting anxiety, Christine,
-and depression-- -I know. And I'm sorry to even laugh a little bit.
But Gwendlyn was like--
You're mean that way. It's okay.
I--
Her description of you is what's funny.
What are you gonna do?
Like, you can either laugh about things
or cry about things.
And if you can't look back with a sense of humor,
what a waste.
I was in the fetal position on the floor, sobbing.
Well, I'm not laughin'. I'm not laughing here.
I'm not laughin'-- I haven't been laughin' with her leaving.
I've never been laughing about this thing.
[laughing] My reactions are just terrible today.
I'm so sorry.
I'm not married to him anymore.
It's so freaking awesome.
You get me in the wrong place
and I'm just venom and vitriol.
So, sometimes you still hate me.
It's okay.
I think she likes that.
I think it gives you satisfaction
if I did hate you.
-It doesn't. It's heartbreaking. -Are you sure?
It's heartbreaking.
[Christine] I really think about him
less than he thinks I think about him.
I don't really even think about him that much.
I feel like, yeah, I need to figure out how to forgive her.
That would be a good idea.
But am I ever gonna trust her?
Probably not.
I wish I was more ambivalent
-but-- -You don't have to pretend.
I don't want you to pretend. There's no point in that.
[Kody] I think she's Machiavellian.
She plays nice while stabbing me in the back.
The evil thoughts I had about you,
you know, like-- like...
You know?
But I-- and I was just like, "Meh." [scoffs]
So it was grief over me leaving more than anything.
It was grief of, uh--
Just that it's over, something's over.
Mmm, even more than that, it was bigger than that.
It was my big picture.
It's like he's trying to blame me for destroying his big picture,
but doesn't see that his actions
over the course of ten years
is what has demolished his big picture.
You can't just pick favorites.
You can't just stay at one person's house
and expect to still have a big picture
of a big huge happy big family.
We don't even have relationships
with most of the people in that picture.
There's a lot to unpack in that.
First of all, let's talk about the word "hate."
Well, listen...
she...
It was an uncomfortable life with her
when we were in Las Vegas.
It got a little worse in Flagstaff.
And she says she's gonna leave.
And I never wanted that to happen.
And I'm like goin', "Oh, so we've suffered all these years together
and you're just gonna quit?"
That was my feeling.
But what bothers me is her disposition towards me,
that she laughs, mocks my suffering
and laughs about it.
And I'm going, "Well, I think you'd drive a truck over me
if you could."
And she's, "Oh, no, I wouldn't. Ha-ha-ha."
But, your suffering, I enjoy.
And it just pissed me off.
She's just kind of teasing, pushing buttons,
being the mean girl.
Was it hard for you to see there that she was happy?
In that moment, in that clip, she's happy--
No, no. She's not happy. She's mean.
There's a difference. I know her.
Sure, she's happy. She's mocking everything about my pain,
about my-- about anything that I've gone through.
She's mocking it.
If I trip and fall, and like she laughs out loud.
-Okay. -She thinks that stuff's funny.
-Okay. -I have tripped. I have fallen.
This has literally unraveled my family
and destroyed all of my dreams.
And she's riding off into the sunset to a happier life.
And I'm sitting here, not picking up the pieces,
but just in the place where I'm going,
"Well, I guess I've gotta figure out how my life looks."
I've always loved the Disney villains more than the princesses.
I just have.
So right there, I was like, "You know what?
I hid so much from you.
So much.
And I am gonna laugh."
-Okay, so you're being a Disney villain. -Yes.
-[laughing] I know! Okay. -Okay.
-Is there a particular Disney villain? -Cruella.
-Full-on. Absolutely. -You're being Cruella.
Absolutely. I was thinking Emma Stone being Cruella,
and I'm like... [laughs] "Yes."
That's a little bit crazy.
-And did it feel good? -Yes.
Yes. Because I was--
I could just be me.
And could I just be me sometimes with Kody?
No, he didn't like that.
He only wanted me to be positive.
He only wanted me to be fun.
He only liked the fun little bubbly part of me.
Well, guess what? He doesn't get that.
I'm not married to him anymore.
I don't have to be all, "Oh, I'm so sorry you didn't feel good."
And like just stuff that in.
I'm not gonna stuff it anymore.
[laughs] He has to see it. Good God.
Do you blame her for destroying the big picture?
No, because that's all my fault
for marrying a woman I didn't love.
Ouch.
No, that's the truth. And she knows that.
And I-- and as hard as I worked at it
and dug into it and went...
every devotion that I could have,
that still was prevailing for us.
It never really worked.
[Sukanya] Coming up...
Christine had mentioned that Robyn really
doesn't wanna live a plural lifestyle.
I don't think Christine knows Robyn at all.
She was a [bleep] sister wife.
She'll probably be a very good wife for David.
My commitment...
...to them...
about this family is not broken.
And I don't know how to break it.
[director] Okay, am I settled?
Do you actually think Robyn really wants to live a plural life
at this point?
From what you've been seeing?
Hmm. Uh...
Um...
It seems like a fair question
because that's been the gripe of a lot of sister wives
up until this point.
-We've been having these conversations-- -Yeah, I know.
-You're right. Yes. -Right.
And we've been peeling back the onion, right?
And now we're just going straight in.
No, I don't think that Robyn has any desire
to live polygamy or plural marriage.
I don't think so.
Um... I don't think so.
Christine had mentioned that Robyn really doesn't
wanna live a plural lifestyle.
-I think that she's-- -Do you think that that's true?
-Christine? -Yeah.
I don't think Christine knows Robyn at all.
She's never tried. She's never been there.
Nah. She was a [bleep] sister wife.
She'll probably, and I hope,
be a very good wife for David.
She-- it wasn't a fit.
I don't--
There's 1,000 reasons why in the aftermath,
looking back, you can say,
"These are all the reasons she wasn't good in polygamy."
But that's all the reasons probably I wasn't.
-Okay. -So, no, I don't know that.
But to make that accusation against Robyn
is just sour-graping.
And I would think that, now that she's in love with David,
that she should prove that out
by never saying another mean thing about Robyn.
'Cause that's when I'll believe Christine is in love
is when she doesn't have anything bad to say about Robyn
or about me to our children.
Suki, at one point, I remember where I was.
I was standing in my kitchen and I thought,
"This is how Kody feels about Robyn.
How I feel about David
is how Kody and Robyn feel about each other."
Oh.
Well, then, I would never wanna leave.
I would never wanna go to somebody else's house.
They deserve to be happy.
Go be happy with each other, for goodness' sakes.
Be happy with each other.
Let the rest of us go.
Let us go.
Stop being angry.
And then we can all get along again,
once you let it go and stop being mad.
Do you think Kody will take on another sister wife?
No. He's now talking more and more about
"as we move forward into monogamy."
So I think that's where...
I think that's where he's headed.
Do you think if Robyn brings somebody in?
I really don't-- I do not foresee it.
If I did, I'll bet you $1,000 right now.
And you come find me if he does.
[laughing] I will give you $1,000.
-Honest, right? -Yeah.
-You better promise. -Okay.
'Cause I just don't think it'll ever happen.
-Why? -No. I think they're very happy.
They have found something together
at this stage of their life that seems to be very deep
and I think it works.
And that's okay.
You're not upset about that.
No, I'm not. And, someday,
maybe,
someday, I'd like to find the same thing.
But not right now. Not for a while.
Let's say Robyn found somebody
that wanted to be a potential sister wife
and introduced her into this.
Would that be a possibility?
Like, if Robyn went and chased down somebody
like Meri chased down Robyn?
-Yes, exactly. -Like, "Kody, you need to go..." you know,
like, "Hey, Kody, you better go dance with her. Yeah."
-Exactly. -Um...
Nah, I wouldn't be interested.
'Cause I would have to tell that woman,
"I will never love you as much as I love her."
'Cause now I know better.
And what about Robyn in all of this?
How does she fit in?
I'm sure that she's very sad about it.
And I... I don't know...
how it would be, being the one left standing.
-Mmm-hmm. -If he loves Robyn so much
that he can let go of the three of us,
that's on him, not her.
Could you find happiness
with just Kody at this time?
Um...
Yeah, it's weird.
To being loving and respectful to Kody,
I wanna say yes. But...
I just don't know how this works
exactly.
Um...
It's weird. I feel like it's disrespectful.
It feels disrespectful to be happy with Kody.
But they want you to be happy with Kody.
They all sat here and said, "We want Robyn and Kody to be happy.
They have a special relationship."
Christine has shared that with me.
Meri has shared that with me.
And also Janelle has shared that with me.
They haven't shared it with me off camera.
Do you need to hear that...
-Yeah. Yes. -...from them
to be able to be purely happy...
-Yes. Yes. -...with Kody?
I need it off camera.
To my face.
'Cause I don't know how.
It feels like it's disrespectful to his kids.
It feels disrespectful to the commitments that I made.
[crying]
I don't know...
This is you just being honest
-and saying... -It is me being honest.
..."This is what I need from you guys."
Yes.
My commitment...
to them...
to their kids, to them, to Kody,
about this family is not broken.
And I don't know how to break it.
I don't know how to be done with it.
I don't care. People can think I'm stupid.
I don't know how to...
I don't think you're stupid.
I think you're asking to have a conversation
with your sister wives.
And in order for you to be truly happy with Kody,
you need them to release you.
I feel like it's...
[sighs]
...disrespectful to them.
I don't know how else to say it.
[Sukanya] Coming up...
Hey, David, come on out.
[Christine] You're gonna meet the love of my life.
He's amazing.
Do you have a thing for blonds?
Believe it or not, I was a blond at one time.
If she's in love,
she should be over it.
I think she is.
I hope so.
[director] Ready? Quiet. Ready and...
[Sukanya] Here's the other thing I wanna ask you.
Is there anything...
that David does better than Kody?
[laughs] Yes.
He'll go, "What's wrong?"
And I'll do the, "Nothing. Everything's fine."
And he'll go, "Nope."
And he sits right down and he waits...
until I talk.
He's just really aware, really observant.
It's insane.
All right, Christine. I think it's time.
Yes! For you to meet David?
It's time for us to meet David.
-Yes! -I feel like I already know him
and we already love him.
-And if he makes you happy... -Aw, let's do it.
Baby, come out.
-Come on out, David. -You're gonna meet the love of my life.
He's amazing.
-Hey, David. -Hi, baby.
Hello.
Hi.
-Hi, David. So nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you.
Pleasure to meet you.
Heard so much about you.
Uh, I hope it's good.
It's all good. Whatever.
I love his pause.
I know. I know.
I love the pause.
I have so many questions.
Can I ask you all the questions
-that inquiring minds wanna know? -Sure.
Okay. [laughs]
He's gonna be like, "What are you gonna ask?"
I'll take it easy.
So, tell me a little bit about yourself.
'Cause everybody wants to know, "Who is this man?"
[chuckles] I was married for over 20 years to a woman.
Um, I have eight kids.
I have ten grandkids.
Yes!
And, um, she passed away about 11 years ago.
-So I started datin'. -[Sukanya] Mmm.
Had fun dating. It was for a while.
But then I just stopped. It was done.
And then I thought,
"Huh, that is her."
You know, 'cause I knew about her.
-So you knew about Christine before you started dating. -Yes. Yes.
I knew of her and stuff. Seen a few--
I didn't know, by the way. It was the second date
-that everything came out. -Okay.
-So I had no idea. -And I told my daughter
and she thought I was being catfished.
-[Sukanya] That's so funny. -I know!
It's hilarious.
So we went on a date, and I thought,
"How can I go out with her again?"
So, on our first date,
his birthday was coming up in a couple weeks after that.
And I'm like, "Well, what do you do for your birthday?"
And he goes, "Well, usually, I just take everybody out to dinner."
I pay for everybody's food.
-[Sukanya] Oh. -Yeah. And I'm like, "Mmm,
I would love to take you out for your birthday."
-Oh, my gosh. -And so, he-- yeah.
-So it took him-- -So I figured that'd be my second date.
-[Sukanya] Yeah. -So I had to sneak in something.
So I thought, "Do you like plays?"
And she said, "I love plays."
So we went to a play.
And I watched her be so animated by the play
that I went, "Wow. She's really passionate about life."
[Sukanya] Hmm.
-[David] And so that's when it clicked. -It was The Little Mermaid.
She was singing and she goes up
and it's 'Part Of Your World,'
and I was crying.
And I knew that that's somebody who really loved life.
Okay.
I love that you love her so much.
I could see that.
But can we just talk about the physical attraction aspect of it?
Was she your type?
Like, were you like, "Oh, yeah," instantly,
"I am attracted. I wanna go down this road"?
Oh, yeah, I was-- it was-- it was--
really attracted to her-- her type and everything.
Her-- I love her energy. I love the bubbliness about her,
the quirkiness about her too.
That's even-- that's like the top.
Um, just everything she does,
I just-- I really-- I went,
"This person, I really like."
And-- and I've dated.
And trust me, it's like when I met her,
it was just instant.
Like, I knew she was the one to be with.
So, yes.
And then we've got to know each other more and more.
We would talk and we would talk for hours and hours.
And it was just like, "Wow, we connect in a lot of ways."
What was different about Christine
than the other women that you had dated prior?
No drama.
-Believe it or not, no drama. -Isn't that crazy?
-[Sukanya] Yeah. -I didn't come with any drama.
-No. -It's like I think I live drama.
But I guess personally, my personal life,
I'm not too dramatic.
-Um... -Too drama.
I could be myself with her.
And she wouldn't tell me what I had to do
or what I couldn't do.
Do you have a thing for blonds?
Believe it or not, I was a blond at one time.
You can't tell, but, yeah.
I like that.
Were you intimidated by the person that she is
and just also the platform that she has?
No, because I knew what I--
I know that there's an end to all this down the road
and that's the person that I want to grow old with.
-Aw. -I know.
Well, I wanna share a clip with you, David.
It's gonna run on the monitor over here.
But the last time we saw Christine,
she was really panicking about the whole dating scene
and, you know, that she hadn't dated in such a long time
and, you know, Kody was pretty much her first kiss
and, clearly, things have changed
since the last time she went on a date.
But here's the clip. And then I wanna get your reaction.
Are you gonna move on and find a new husband?
Yes.
When?
It's equal scary and exciting all the time,
both.
'Cause, yes, I wanted to date.
But, oh, my God, no, that's sounds really, really, really terrifying
and scary and... [exclaims]
vulnerable and, no.
And but, still at the same time, yes.
Gosh, yes. See? It's a lot.
There's a lot going on.
So I am definitely going for monogamous this time.
-I'm done with the polygamy thing. -Good.
As far as body-- the look,
I want bald, tattoos and driving a motorcycle.
That's the vision.
Just saying, the tattoos will be fantastic,
just... [giggles] it's pretty much
Kody's opposite, not on purpose, but maybe.
I'm just looking for something that Kody never was,
because I... I just want someone who's a partner,
a good communicator, someone who's funny.
I'd love a sense of humor.
We'll go on several dates,
with whoever, and I'll go on several dates again.
It's only going to be with people who I can trust.
[Tony speaking]
Tony, did you try all the ice cream flavors?
-[Tony] Yeah. -He did, Mom.
No. I will not be sampling all the ice-cream flavors. No.
So I was married to someone
who apparently wasn't physically attracted to me.
And the biggest reason I haven't dated is
-because-- -I don't get that.
Babe, the biggest reason I haven't dated is
because it's a self-esteem hit.
It honestly is. It's been hard to get over that.
When did you feel that?
You're gorgeous!
The biggest reason I left Kody was
because I didn't want to be in a marriage
where my kids would know
that I was married to someone who wasn't attracted to me.
It's really hard to get beyond that in my head.
-Right. -Yeah.
And, so, I've been scared.
And, so, I know we talked about-- we went to a bar,
and then we talked about all the stuff.
I'm not ready. I'm scared.
He's the only guy I've ever kissed.
Oh, my God, what if I suck at kissing?
What if I suck at everything like that?
I don't know.
I know that someone didn't like it.
Do you see why it's scary?
Do you see why it is terrifying?
It is terrifying.
So, I don't understand, you're like--
you're scared and stuff because,
I mean, you were married for 25-ish years,
and the guy you were married with was never into it.
Like, that sucks.
But that's his problem. Not yours.
And I get, like, full scoops of ice cream.
I might go and do, like the--
"Can I have a spoon of that flavor,
"but just a spoon, you know, maybe?"
But never a full scoop of any flavor.
That's way too much.
Way too much of anything.
I don't know! [gasps]
Too much. Way too much.
I don't know. [giggles]
[all laughing]
-[Sukanya] Okay, Christine. -So many things!
[Sukanya] So many things to talk about.
Oh, my God!
Okay. The first thing is
when you were talking about, you know,
-somebody who's bald-- -[Christine] Yes.
-...somebody who has a tattoo, who rides... -[Christine] Yes.
I want a bad boy. I just want a bad boy.
And the two of you look at each other,
it's almost like you manifested... David.
He's got tattoos here, it's beautiful.
And then we have a matching tattoo now.
-I have a tattoo as well. -[Sukanya] What?
We both have a tattoo now.
[Sukanya] Where do you have a tattoo?
Is it okay to show? It's just right here. It's...
[Sukanya] Can you show me? [gasps]
It means new beginnings in Celtic.
And he's got one, too, right here. It's the same one.
-[Sukanya] And it's over your heart. -I know.
That's where his is, too.
We got a tattoo together.
So you did it together at the same time?
Well, no. He did his-- No, I did mine before.
-Or did you do yours first? -You know, you were first.
I did. Okay. So I got mine,
and he was right there, and he held my hand.
And, um, this is not fun.
How do people do big ones?
-[Sukanya laughs] -This is very painful.
She found out that I... used to have a motorcycle
she, about, fell on the floor.
'Cause I did have one.
[Sukanya] I really feel like you manifested.
-I mean, it was like-- -Yes.
-...what you were describing is what's sitting next to you. -[Christine] Yes.
-It is 100%. -That was weird.
-[Sukanya] That was weird for you to hear that? -Uh-huh. Yeah.
When you're watching that, too,
there's a lot of, like, difficult things.
Like, how did that make you feel
and how did it make you feel to hear yourself say,
"You know, I felt uncomfortable.
Like, I was with a person that didn't love me."
You know? You're giving these confessionals
that, you know, somebody that wasn't attracted to you.
I know. To my kids, which I think is very important.
They need to know
that I knew that they knew I was in a marriage
with someone who wasn't attracted to me,
'cause they told me.
And, um...
I knew they knew.
And, so, I just brought it up again
because, also, you always want
to be an example for your kids.
Like, if things aren't working out
and if you're with someone who's not attracted to you
or whatever, you need to change.
You need to do something different.
I know this is all exciting for Christine and everything,
and I'm happy that she is on her path,
but that scene bothers me
because she's right there
asking for my children
to side with her against me.
I mean, nobody else sees it,
maybe I'm just delusional.
But, once again, I got a problem
with her kind of setting my kids against me
in order to gain favor with her,
and that's what I see happening there.
How do you-- in what respect, what aspect?
Mykelti, in order to have favor with Christine, is
siding against me on this whole story.
Mykelti say yes-- I mean, she's joining Christine
in the criticism of me because I didn't love her.
I was attached to her
and in the eyes of my children,
I was there and I was with her.
She told them that I wasn't.
What she did was wrong.
And I'm happy for her and her life,
and that she's moving forward,
and that she's going to find love,
I'm happy for that.
But I cannot forgive,
at least not right now,
the fact that she has pit my children against me
in a very subtle but real way
and that bothers me.
Now, if she's really in love,
which I hope is the real story,
that should all end.
Her trash-talking me to my children,
her trash-talking me on this show, should all end
because, if she's in love,
she should be over it.
-I think she is. -I hope so.
You know, like, you said that
-Kody didn't like kissing you. -No.
I was super scared to be kissed.
I first felt like I wouldn't be a good kisser at all,
'cause he-- Kody doesn't like kissing me.
-He just didn't like it. -No, she's a great kisser.
Great kisser.
-I'm fine. -[David] Yes.
And practice makes perfect, right?
-Yes. -It's not a problem.
[all laughing]
-Thanks, David. -Everything about her.
-I guess that... -[Christine clears throat]
She's awesome. Everything.
What made you think that he didn't like kissing you?
He was married to you for so long.
I just knew.
You know.
I was like, for... He'd be like, "What do you want to do for your birthday?"
And I'm like, "Let's just go make out somewhere."
He was never-- He was like, "Nah, let's not do that."
And it just was never kissing just for fun.
And kissing doesn't have to lead to something.
You don't have to have sex
just because you're gonna be making out.
And, so, we just never did.
And I always wanted to.
But he never did.
And, so, I knew.
Do you guys have good making out sessions?
[chuckling] Yeah, we're great.
[laughing] He's looking at me like, "Sukanya,
did you really ask that question?"
[all laughing]
It's just nice. It's nice to be...
it's nice to feel confident in a relationship
where I can just be me.
The final question is
how many scoops of ice cream did you try?
[laughs] How many did you try? [laughs]
Um, nothing that mattered.
Nothing that mattered.
Is he your mint chocolate chip,
or was he the one that you like?
-You like mint, right? -Mint chocolate chip.
[Sukanya] Is that your favorite ice cream?
Well, hell, he's better than mint chocolate chip.
Are you kidding me? God.
[Sukanya] Coming up...
Here's the thing. For David's sake,
David Woolley's sake,
Christine has to destroy my character
or David doesn't feel like he can marry her
'cause she left a good man.
He wears his emotions on his sleeve a lot.
But that's him.
Would I be like that? No.
I'm hoping she's chosen well.
I hope that she's very happy.
I'm not judging him.
But my life has been public for--
-Yeah. -...years.
[man] Can everybody settle, please?
[Sukanya] Remember when you said
Christine was Machiavellian,
-at times? -Yes. I still believe that.
-Well, I asked David-- -Maybe she won't do it to him.
I'm just the bad guy now.
So, um, the experience I had was Machiavellian.
If she is not, then she is in love
unless she's Machiavellian
to get her way with her husband,
which is going to be a very normal thing
in any kind of marriage
where you're doing... kind of things.
In years to come,
if we all become friends,
David might be pulling me aside and go, "Dude..."
[chuckles]
"This is nuts."
Because he's complaining about his wife.
And I'll say, "Dude, be loyal to your wife.
Don't talk to me about it."
'Cause guys normally like to complain about their wives
to each other.
I'm just gonna say, I don't think David's pulling you over
-and gonna have that conversation-- -I--
Just like you didn't pull over the other wives
to have conversations about--
-To trash talk you all-- -Exactly.
Isn't that a tenet that you have in your--
I've been trash talked--
...in your marriages?
I've had a situation
where an ex-wife
and a wife were trash-talking me
and that...
it-- I don't know. You know--
-I think the lesson's learned. -...humans are fallible.
We all make huge mistakes
and in a marriage, you forgive those mistakes
because everybody makes them,
or you don't have a marriage.
He's definitely wrong on...
her being back-stabbing and stuff, like...
Or Machiavellian?
No. She's not that at all.
I don't see that.
And I'm a people person. I can read people.
She's not that way at all.
She is really good.
Sometimes she's a little clueless
about things that goes on. I'm like, "Christine!"
But as far as her being conniving, no.
My focus is with Christine
and not what they had there.
When you see him on the show,
what was your impression of Kody,
and now that you've met Christine,
what's your impression of Kody?
He wears his emotions on his sleeve a lot.
Sometimes you gotta not...
But that's him
And that's who he is.
I can't say anything differently.
Would I be like that?
[chupsing] No.
-Yeah. -You know, it's just...
he...
he wants you to hear him.
Here's the thing.
For David's sake, David Woolley's sake,
Christine has to destroy my character
or David doesn't feel like he can marry her,
'cause she left a good man.
I'm not a bad guy.
-Christine and I were just not in a good marriage. -I don't--
-I mean, I met David. -Yeah.
I don't think he feels that way at all.
-Okay. -I think--
-I mean, I'm being very honest with you. -That would be my suspicion.
No. He doesn't feel that way at all.
-Okay, good. -He just kind of feels like,
"You know what? A marriage didn't work out."
-Yeah. -"There's a divorce that took place,
and now I'm meeting this woman
where she is right now."
-I vetted Robyn differently than that. -And that's--
I vetted Robyn hard,
because I had to know that she didn't leave a good man
before I was gonna marry her
and take a chance with that.
But can you understand that Christine...
you're still a good man even though Christine left?
-Get it? -She needs to stop telling my children I'm not then.
Well, I'm just gonna tell you--
I'm not gonna let that go ever
until those kids come to me.
Okay. But I'm telling you
-I met David-- -Yeah.
...and he doesn't think ill of you.
It's not even about that.
-Good. Good, good. Good. -Okay?
That's awesome. And I cert-- I don't even know David.
-I hope Christine is choosing well. -Right.
You know, 'cause-- I'm hoping she's chosen well.
I hope that she's very happy.
I'm not judging him.
But my life has been public for--
-Yeah. -...years.
Do you have empathy for Kody in some way,
some aspect, as a man,
you know, who's had to manage this family, and...
I can, to a certain point,
because it can get overwhelming
with a lot of people,
and you need to know,
but, like, I...
like I said,
with me, with dating women,
my kids came first.
And if someone tried to push me and tell me
I had to be a certain here or there,
I was like, "No, that ain't gonna work.
You know, there's room for everybody."
What do you think didn't happen in that relationship
between Christine and Kody
and why did it go to a head?
I-- That's a good question.
I really don't know
because I don't know that part,
but what I know of Christine is
she's the complete package.
To me, everything that I've ever wanted
in a woman is there.
The intimacy, the touching,
the communication, the talking,
you know? And I don't know if she had that.
So, to me, when you have it all--
If you don't have it, 'cause I was in a marriage
where there wasn't much talking,
there wasn't that part.
And with Christine, everything's there.
So it's just natural.
So if you don't have that in a marriage,
then you just have the--
the ring doesn't mean anything.
The title doesn't mean anything.
It's all the rest of it.
We're awesome together.
Well, tell me about planning the proposal.
[Christine] Oh, my God, it was amazing.
You know how women will
tell the story of their proposal,
and they'll be like,
"I knew.
I knew it was gonna happen that day.
I just had this vibe it was gonna happen that say."
No, no. I had no clue.
-[Sukanya chuckles] -No clue whatsoever.
So I went down to Moab.
And I took her on a ride with my friends.
And, um, I had it all planned out in my head.
It was gonna be on the side of the cliff.
And we go over there and there's this beautiful view
and he's like "What do you think of this?"
and I'm like, "Oh, this is beautiful, babe."
And his friend's like, "Do you want me to take your picture?"
And I'm like, "Sure."
So he's holding up the camera
but I didn't even notice him to be honest with you.
And then David's like,
"This is my favorite place in the world.
And you're my favorite person
that I want to spend my life with."
And I'm like, [gasps]
"Oh, my God, this is happening."
And I threw my stuff down and was like,
[softly] "Yes, yes, yes." [in normal voice] And then he said some other words
that were very, very beautiful.
And he's like, you know, "Will you marry me?"
I'm like, "Yes! Yes! Yes!"
And then he got up and we kissed,
and we hugged, and then--
And his friend filmed the whole thing.
Like, his friend got it all and stuff, and he's like,
"You know, Jason's got it. He filmed it all."
-I'm like, "Sneaky!" -[Sukanya laughs]
He was sneaky.
-He orchestrated it forever! -With our texts
back and forth
and we're dating at first, it was...
she asked me, "Do you believe in soulmates?"
And I said, "Of course, I do."
No. What you said was this.
I texted him like, "Do you believe in soulmates?"
'Cause I knew we probably were.
And he goes, "Yes, we're soulmates."
And I'm like, [softly] "Oh, my God. Oh, my God."
[in normal voice] And I threw my phone and I'm like,
"Whoa, this is intense.
This is really moving fast.
Oh, my gosh. I don't know if I'm ready for this."
And then I picked up my phone and I'm like, "Yeah, we are."
Um, the other thing is,
-let's talk about the wedding. -[Christine] Yes!
How is this wedding gonna be
different than the last wedding...
-to Kody? -Oh!
I'm gonna walk down the aisle.
There's like-- in the marriage with Kody,
it was just an intimate--
[Christine speaking]
So it's just...
It's a world away from what's happening.
Like, I'm walking down the aisle,
and I told David, I'm like,
"I don't really care where we get married.
I wanna have the dress,
I wanna walk down the aisle to you,
and that's all that matters to me, really."
And so we don't have a wedding party.
It's gonna be our grandkids,
our slew of grandkids in our colors
that are just gonna walk down the aisle, too.
-Beautiful. -It's gonna be so cool.
And our moms will be there.
My dad will walk me down the aisle,
if he's well enough.
He's sick, so it might be my son that helps walks me.
It's gonna be some awesome.
I'm gonna walk down the aisle!
So, who in the family, of all the adults, are gonna be invited?
-Your dad, your two moms. -Yeah.
How about any of the Brown family?
-Janelle. I'll invite Janelle, for sure. -[Sukanya] Yeah.
I'm not gonna invite, um, Kody or Robyn, or...
Um, I'm not close with their kids right now.
I've reached out to them, they haven't answered.
But it's fine. Everyone needs to process
-what they need to process. -[Sukanya] Right.
Janelle and her kids are definitely invited.
-And Meri? -Um...
Do you hope to get married again?
I hope to find somebody who...
um, loves and accepts the person that I am,
and cherishes me.
Do you feel like you can ever reconcile with Kody?
I don't foresee that we will ever reconcile.
I'm getting this fairy-tale wedding.
It's amazing. We. [bleep] Sorry.
[man] Okay. Everybody settled?
[Christine] Janelle and her kids are definitely invited.
And Meri?
Um, my gut reaction is no.
I feel like I should, but no.
So-- Leon's invited though.
Leon's gonna--
Leon and Audrey are gonna wear our colors
and be in the pictures, too.
Um, so they'll come, for sure.
Um, and I'm inviting Kody's siblings
and Kody's mom.
I'm super close to them.
I've known them for 30-plus years.
So I've invited them, and some can make it.
They've already been RSVPing,
and getting their lodgings and everything.
I guess the magical part
of having a marriage later in life is
that you don't have to invite anybody.
You really can invite who you want there.
And there's not gonna be anybody there that will
-be awkward for me. -[Sukanya] Mm-hmm.
Or for him. We're just gonna have who we want there.
I'm getting this fairy-tale wedding.
It's amazing. We.
-[bleep] Sorry. -Ah.
[chuckling] She said, "Can I have mine--"
He'd elope!
He would elope. He'd be like...
I'd go to Vegas, and "Let's go get in to the KISS costumes
and get married."
[Sukanya] KISS costumes! You're funny.
Do you think you'll get an invitation to the wedding?
I don't think I will.
-Really? -Yeah.
How does that make you feel?
I'm okay with it because a wedding is
a very special...
moment that you don't wanna have any issues.
They're not gonna want--
and I would not want to bring that, you know,
kind of conflict of emotion
-into Christine's wedding. -Mmm.
Like, I would not want that for her.
-Yeah. -So, I'm truly okay with that.
Do you hope to get married again?
Yeah.
I do. I hope to...
I hope to find somebody who...
um, loves and accepts the person that I am
and cherishes me,
and knows my heart,
and likes it.
Are you gonna go to the wedding?
Oh, yeah. I'm going to the wedding.
Yeah, you bet.
You think you're going to be the Maid of Honor?
No, she's not having
anything traditional like that.
-Ah. -But I have decided I'm going to have
a really kind of a fun dress made for it.
So, my last question for you is--
that would kind wrap down this whole session is
do you feel like you can ever reconcile with Kody?
Do you see that for yourself?
I don't foresee that we will ever reconcile. I don't.
It would-- no.
Like, it would be some sort of, like, magic fairy tale
where we all transformed
into some sort of different people,
and that doesn't happen in real life.
[Sukanya] Mm-hmm.
But could you be friends?
Yes. I still have such high regard for him,
and I can remember all the good times,
but I don't wanna reconcile.
-Do you have a celebrity crush... -[Janelle laughs]
now that you're kind of on the other side?
God, I gotta think about it.
Oh, Gerard Butler is always a go for me.
Oh, Gerard Butler.
[chuckles] And then...
Jason Momoa?
Oh, yeah. Come on.
-You like big and hunky, don't you? -Yeah.
Do you like a man bun?
Um, looks good on Jason Momoa.
[Sukanya laughs]
You gotta have a celebrity crush.
-Celebrity crush. -Mm, yes.
Let's manifest something right now.
Oh, my gosh!
-Tall. -Yeah.
-Like, 6'1 and above? -[Meri laughs]
Even 6', I'd be good.
-Yeah? Okay. -Yeah.
And?
You have to have a crush.
I mean, Matthew McConaughey has always been
my celebrity crush.
[Sukanya] "All right, all right, all right."
-"All right, all right, all right." -[Sukanya laughs]
He always has been.
The last question I have for you is completely rando.
-So let's end on this note, all right? -Go ahead.
Do you have a celebrity crush?
-Sophia Loren. -[gasps]
-Oh, you like Sophia Loren. -Oh, gosh.
I saw Man of La Mancha
uh, with Peter O'Toole when I was six.
My mom actually shudders
at the fact that she let a six year old go to that.
But it was a musical.
It was a beautiful performance.
Um, and Sophia Loren,
man, she-- I knew I was straight when I was six.
You could've asked Robyn who my celebrity crush was
-and she would've told you that answer. -Oh, I could have?
-Oh. -She'd have told you Sophia Loren.
Does Robyn have a celebrity crush?
Yes. And I know who it is.
-Who is it? -I know who--
Oh, gosh. Don't be gross.
I was gonna say "I know who my brother husband is."
-[laughs] -But, yeah.
-Who is it? -Robyn's celebrity crush.
I need to ask forgiveness in advance.
Robyn, please forgive me
for exposing your celebrity crush.
Uh, Ryan Reynolds.
-Ooh, I could see that. -Yeah.
That's a good one.
That's why I have six-pack abs now is
because I gotta keep the competition going
with Ryan Reynolds.
Um, do you know who Meri's is?
-Can I just share that with you now? -Yes, I know Meri's.
-Okay. Tell me. -Matthew McConaughey.
-Oh, my God! -That's funny.
Yeah, Meri's celebrity crush is Matthew McConaughey.
Robyn's is...
I don't know who Christine's is.
Um, 'cause-- Oh, wait. She might have had one when she was younger
-that I've forgotten. -What was Janelle's? I'm trying to remember.
-Janelle's celebrity crush? -Yeah.
Let me try and guess.
-Um... -Ooh, this one's good.
Yeah, I remember what it is. Okay, go ahead.
-Oh, you do? -Yeah.
Go ahead and tell me who--
Gerard Butler.
Oh! Yeah, that's definitely Janelle's style.
Yeah. Yeah, once again, I had to get six-pack abs
-to compete with that guy. -And you know what,
I did throw out this other person,
and she didn't disagree.
Jason Momoa.
-Oh, really? -Yeah.
Oh, okay. Yeah. I...
-Yeah-- -She didn't say she would toss him out of her bed.
-Those-- Oh, man. -[Sukanya laughs]
-I'm sorry I said that. -Oh, my goodness.
It's been really great sharing this journey with you.
-Like, lots of ups and downs, and-- -Yes. Yes.
I feel like I have, for the past 13 years,
I have been real,
and I've been honest, and I've shown everybody
the hardest days of my life
and the hardest times of my life,
and now what I get to share with everybody is
the best day of my life.
I get to bring everybody to the best day of my life.
And it's just gonna be a huge flippin' party.
And it's gonna be a fairy-tale dream come true.
And it's gonna be beautiful and gorgeous.
And you're just gonna wanna
be there and stay there all day long.
-Well, thank you, Christine. -It's gonna be amazing.
We're really happy for you.
We're really happy you found each other,
and wishing you the best.
Now, I can't wait for the wedding!
Gosh! I'm so excited to share it with everybody.
God, I'm so excited just to get married.
-I'm just so glad to marry you. -Okay.
[David] I'm excited to get married to you, too.
-[Christine giggles] -[Sukanya] So sweet.
-[Christine] I'm so excited. -[Sukanya] All right, thank you.