1 00:00:18,467 --> 00:00:20,734 [Kody] Previously on Sister Wives... 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,367 [Meri] Kody, actually, said to me, 3 00:00:23,367 --> 00:00:26,066 "I have no desire, Meri, 4 00:00:26,066 --> 00:00:29,266 to have a relationship with you. 5 00:00:29,266 --> 00:00:32,166 You can stick around and you can come visit me 6 00:00:32,166 --> 00:00:33,867 and Robyn and the kids if you want, 7 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:37,233 but we're never gonna have a marriage relationship anymore." 8 00:00:37,300 --> 00:00:38,967 This is my story, too, 9 00:00:38,967 --> 00:00:41,700 and I have the right to tell my story. 10 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:46,266 -[all] Cheers. -Happy... ex-Anniversary. 11 00:00:46,266 --> 00:00:47,867 [whooping] 12 00:00:47,867 --> 00:00:49,533 I'm a big fan of divorce. 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,934 I'm just saying, if people are thinking about it, 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,934 I say go for it. 15 00:00:54,467 --> 00:00:57,066 Do you understand that you lie? 16 00:00:57,066 --> 00:00:58,734 That's the reason I call you the Teflon Queen. 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,367 -I do not... -Because you're lying about what has happened 18 00:01:01,367 --> 00:01:03,667 -and what's been going on. -It's wild to me, that you think I lied 19 00:01:03,667 --> 00:01:05,467 because I think you're manipulating. 20 00:01:05,467 --> 00:01:07,800 [Kody] Too many lines have been crossed. 21 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:09,266 I've given too much. 22 00:01:09,266 --> 00:01:11,266 I don't wanna live like this anymore. 23 00:01:11,266 --> 00:01:12,867 -[Kody] No, you... -Shut your [bleep] mouth 24 00:01:12,867 --> 00:01:14,166 and let me talk to you for a minute. 25 00:01:14,166 --> 00:01:15,667 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 26 00:01:15,667 --> 00:01:17,066 You know what? Let me tell you what. 27 00:01:17,066 --> 00:01:18,233 -No. -[Kody] No. 28 00:01:18,233 --> 00:01:19,867 -You stay and talk. -[Kody] I'm done listening to you. 29 00:01:19,867 --> 00:01:21,100 -Okay? So we're done? -[Kody] Good bye. 30 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:22,634 [bleep] you. 31 00:01:23,867 --> 00:01:26,667 [exhales] The whole thing, frankly, makes me nauseous. 32 00:01:26,667 --> 00:01:32,266 This is the agreement you required of me in order to get married. 33 00:01:32,266 --> 00:01:35,467 If I'm ever not in love with you, 34 00:01:35,467 --> 00:01:37,533 I won't just sit there 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,867 and be in a pathetic place with you. 36 00:01:39,867 --> 00:01:44,867 In so many ways, this moment is just about what we each want, 37 00:01:44,867 --> 00:01:47,233 and those aren't the same things. 38 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:53,300 [voice shaking] I wanted to sit on a porch with my sister wives. 39 00:01:53,867 --> 00:01:57,000 [crying] I don't understand. 40 00:01:58,867 --> 00:02:01,200 [theme music playing] 41 00:02:19,567 --> 00:02:21,800 [somber music playing] 42 00:02:27,467 --> 00:02:31,433 [Kody] The dream of the big polygamist family is just completely shot. 43 00:02:33,567 --> 00:02:34,800 It's over. 44 00:02:38,166 --> 00:02:39,900 Christine and I just don't talk. 45 00:02:40,667 --> 00:02:42,600 And Janelle and I have been separated. 46 00:02:43,266 --> 00:02:45,166 Meri? Do we say we're divorced? 47 00:02:45,166 --> 00:02:46,567 No, I don't think so, 48 00:02:46,567 --> 00:02:48,333 but we're not in a marriage, 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,066 and I don't want to be in that marriage. 50 00:02:51,066 --> 00:02:54,667 The feelings from the "breakup with family" are just raw. 51 00:02:54,667 --> 00:02:57,433 Like, "Who am I without my family?" 52 00:02:58,667 --> 00:03:00,867 Oh, I'm glad I brought my jacket. 53 00:03:00,867 --> 00:03:03,266 So we bought Coyote Pass over four years ago. 54 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:05,333 We've got a big payment coming due. 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,867 And with the family falling apart, 56 00:03:06,867 --> 00:03:09,767 we got to figure out what we're gonna do. 57 00:03:09,767 --> 00:03:15,066 [Robyn] So if we don't pay the land off in the allotted time, 58 00:03:15,066 --> 00:03:16,266 we can lose all of it. 59 00:03:16,266 --> 00:03:20,400 It's really a stupid contract, to be honest. 60 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:23,433 I guess if you build over there, 61 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:25,467 right there is where your house would be, I assume. 62 00:03:25,467 --> 00:03:27,166 Well, clear over there. Yeah. 63 00:03:27,166 --> 00:03:29,433 When Christine moved, she took the equity from her home 64 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:31,967 that basically we, as a family, had bought her. 65 00:03:31,967 --> 00:03:35,233 [Christine] When I sold it, I just kept the money from the sale of the house 66 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:37,000 and just gave up my rights to Coyote Pass. 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 I just didn't want anything to do with it. 68 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,133 I needed a clean break. 69 00:03:40,133 --> 00:03:43,767 And it was just easier, emotionally, to just let it go. 70 00:03:43,767 --> 00:03:46,433 [Kody] So Coyote Pass has been handed over the last four of us, 71 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:49,333 Meri, Janelle, Robyn and me. 72 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,934 I mean, you still wanna build? 73 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,266 -Don't you? -Well... 74 00:03:53,266 --> 00:03:55,033 I don't know. [chuckles softly] 75 00:03:55,100 --> 00:03:56,967 Like, this was our dream as a family. 76 00:03:56,967 --> 00:03:58,266 I suppose... [laughs sarcastically] 77 00:03:58,266 --> 00:04:01,100 I think that dream's over. I don't know. 78 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:03,867 We're not really "One big family" anymore. 79 00:04:03,867 --> 00:04:06,533 We're more like people who own property. 80 00:04:07,100 --> 00:04:08,767 Everything with Meri, it's... 81 00:04:08,767 --> 00:04:12,133 it's like, "Okay, we're just... We just need to divide it up. 82 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,533 I mean, Meri didn't seem like she was never gonna be out here. 83 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,066 She didn't to you? 84 00:04:18,066 --> 00:04:20,500 She didn't have, like, a definite, "No, I'm not." 85 00:04:21,266 --> 00:04:22,333 So about a week ago, 86 00:04:22,333 --> 00:04:27,133 Kody and I had our official breakup conversation. 87 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,634 You want something that... we can't have together. 88 00:04:32,667 --> 00:04:34,767 [Meri] I've seen this coming for a long time. 89 00:04:34,767 --> 00:04:37,233 For the past nearly decade, 90 00:04:37,300 --> 00:04:41,867 he has pulled himself away from me completely, emotionally. 91 00:04:41,867 --> 00:04:44,367 Nothing has changed actually, 92 00:04:44,367 --> 00:04:47,867 because we still have that spiritual marriage intact. 93 00:04:47,867 --> 00:04:52,467 And now I will be moving forward with having that terminated. 94 00:04:52,467 --> 00:04:54,367 But that's gonna take some time. 95 00:04:54,367 --> 00:04:58,333 Like, why in the world would I want to be tied to somebody eternally 96 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,700 who doesn't want me? 97 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:03,867 Well, let's be real. She's not interested in having a spot here. 98 00:05:03,867 --> 00:05:05,834 -If you and I are living over there... -You never know. 99 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:08,266 ...do you think that Meri would ever want to live here... 100 00:05:08,266 --> 00:05:10,133 -You never know. -...have a retreat here at all? 101 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,133 You never know. 102 00:05:11,133 --> 00:05:14,066 This place is just a source of pain for me. 103 00:05:14,066 --> 00:05:17,834 He led me to believe that he would work on things by saying, 104 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:19,867 "Oh, Meri, when we moved to Flagstaff 105 00:05:19,867 --> 00:05:22,667 this will be a good time to have a new beginning for us." 106 00:05:22,667 --> 00:05:24,867 Like, he led me to believe those things. 107 00:05:24,867 --> 00:05:27,266 This is what he's done for many, many years. 108 00:05:27,266 --> 00:05:29,467 I get it that she says there's mixed messages 109 00:05:29,467 --> 00:05:33,367 because as I started to try and make the relationship work, 110 00:05:33,367 --> 00:05:35,133 I'm like, "Why would I do this? 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,834 I would not court and date her now." 112 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:40,200 Then why the hell did you marry me? 113 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,467 You know that every night when I go to bed, 114 00:05:42,467 --> 00:05:45,333 I see my home on that piece of land over there? 115 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,867 Then, I see Janelle's house, I see Meri's house, 116 00:05:47,867 --> 00:05:49,967 I did see Christine's house. 117 00:05:49,967 --> 00:05:51,467 Her ship's sailed. 118 00:05:51,467 --> 00:05:54,133 So before I left Kody, I was kind of dreading, you know, 119 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,433 "If I leave him, I'm gonna be single." 120 00:05:55,433 --> 00:05:57,834 And I don't really wanna be single for the rest of my life. 121 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:00,634 And in 50, you know, halfway through life and single. 122 00:06:00,700 --> 00:06:01,667 I never wanted that. 123 00:06:01,667 --> 00:06:02,867 But no, I love it. 124 00:06:02,867 --> 00:06:04,967 Starting to get into the dating scene, 125 00:06:04,967 --> 00:06:07,166 and it's been fun, having a good time. 126 00:06:07,166 --> 00:06:08,767 I just want to keep it like that, 127 00:06:08,767 --> 00:06:10,634 just wanna have fun. 128 00:06:10,700 --> 00:06:12,667 I'm discouraged about the whole thing. 129 00:06:12,667 --> 00:06:15,367 I mean, there could be some healing this year. 130 00:06:15,367 --> 00:06:17,133 This next year, coming up. 131 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,700 Yeah. I don't. 132 00:06:19,367 --> 00:06:21,834 Well, no. You and Janelle, like, 133 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:24,166 you guys could still get this figured out. 134 00:06:24,166 --> 00:06:25,367 I don't... 135 00:06:25,367 --> 00:06:29,500 Well, don't... like, you just need to, like, keep trying. 136 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,033 [Janelle] Kody and I are not reconciled. 137 00:06:34,100 --> 00:06:35,367 We are not back together. 138 00:06:35,367 --> 00:06:41,433 I'm actually, um, finding a lot of peace over this new life. 139 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:43,767 I wish I was in your place... 140 00:06:43,767 --> 00:06:46,934 -a little bit. -I just don't know how to let this all go. 141 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,433 I committed to this family 100% of myself. 142 00:06:53,867 --> 00:06:55,667 I've got to be really honest with you. 143 00:06:55,667 --> 00:06:57,734 I'd almost rather... 144 00:07:01,266 --> 00:07:04,567 scrap it or sell it and then just start again somewhere else. 145 00:07:04,567 --> 00:07:05,367 I can't... 146 00:07:05,367 --> 00:07:06,266 I can't talk about that. 147 00:07:06,266 --> 00:07:08,834 I'm sorry. That is so not where I'm at. 148 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:11,266 I can't talk about... 149 00:07:11,266 --> 00:07:16,367 -I cannot even... -I can't talk anymore about reconciliation. 150 00:07:16,367 --> 00:07:18,467 [Robyn sighing] It's difficult some days. 151 00:07:18,467 --> 00:07:23,133 There's days when I just feel like the idiot... [sighs] that doesn't, um... 152 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,100 that doesn't know how to let it go. 153 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:30,700 Ever since I suggested the one-home thing... 154 00:07:31,467 --> 00:07:33,533 the one-home idea, 155 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,567 I realized that was probably a little selfish of me. 156 00:07:36,567 --> 00:07:39,066 No. You were just wanting your family together. 157 00:07:39,066 --> 00:07:42,000 I wonder if I would've never suggested that, 158 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,600 if that wasn't just the catalyst... 159 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:48,634 of realization for everybody, especially me. 160 00:07:48,700 --> 00:07:53,467 All I feel now is just cynicism about the entire thing. 161 00:07:53,467 --> 00:07:57,266 I mourned the loss of this ideal that we were striving for, 162 00:07:57,266 --> 00:07:59,233 this family. 163 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:02,567 The big spark for me was when his relationship broke down with my children, 164 00:08:02,567 --> 00:08:07,467 and he didn't seem like he would move heaven and earth to fix it. 165 00:08:07,467 --> 00:08:11,333 And I thought, "Okay, that was what was really holding me here." 166 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,767 I hate it when I'm spoiling your dreams. 167 00:08:13,767 --> 00:08:16,367 So I still have a vision 168 00:08:16,367 --> 00:08:18,467 of what that house could be like over there. 169 00:08:18,467 --> 00:08:22,233 I still have the visions of what I was thinking we would build. 170 00:08:22,567 --> 00:08:23,800 It was a vision... 171 00:08:24,467 --> 00:08:25,500 of being here. 172 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:28,133 There's a vision for everybody, for everything. 173 00:08:28,667 --> 00:08:30,333 Um, that has all changed, 174 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,834 and I think you are being unrealistic 175 00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:35,500 to think that Meri would ever want to live here with us. 176 00:08:37,467 --> 00:08:39,066 [Kody] I don't know how Meri fits in the family 177 00:08:39,066 --> 00:08:41,867 'cause I don't fit in the family anymore. 178 00:08:41,867 --> 00:08:45,000 I've been [bleep] excommunicated from my own family. 179 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:48,734 I have this marriage and these kids with Robyn, 180 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,033 and then I have some relationship with some of the other kids, 181 00:08:52,100 --> 00:08:53,166 and it's infrequent. 182 00:08:53,166 --> 00:08:55,233 And so I'm like, "What do I do with all of this? 183 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:57,433 It doesn't feel like a family." 184 00:08:58,367 --> 00:08:59,734 [Meri] It's fine. 185 00:09:00,166 --> 00:09:02,667 Go love Robyn. 186 00:09:02,667 --> 00:09:05,166 Love her the best that you can. 187 00:09:05,166 --> 00:09:08,300 But be [bleep] honest with me. 188 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,200 I don't care if you put a bleep over that. 189 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,500 [upbeat music playing] 190 00:09:32,266 --> 00:09:34,634 [Christine] Mykelti is pregnant with twins, 191 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:37,033 and so we have to have a party to celebrate that. 192 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:39,634 And with the first baby, you have a baby shower. 193 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:44,000 But with the second baby, and third in her case, it's a baby sprinkle. 194 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,467 I'm currently 30 weeks along, but I'm due December 1st. 195 00:09:49,467 --> 00:09:53,767 -But if we make it to 35... -34 weeks is, like, the goal... 196 00:09:53,767 --> 00:09:55,567 -Safety. -...for the twins. 197 00:09:55,567 --> 00:09:56,867 So that's four weeks left. 198 00:09:56,867 --> 00:09:58,567 We don't know how much longer after that. 199 00:09:58,567 --> 00:10:01,000 It's gonna be a gambling theme. 200 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,433 Blackjack, Vegas style. 201 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:06,266 I need somebody to teach me how to play the game. 202 00:10:06,266 --> 00:10:08,634 -Do you know how to count to 21? -Yes. 203 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:09,567 That's how you play the game. 204 00:10:09,567 --> 00:10:10,900 The theme is Double-down. 205 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:13,133 Double-down is something that you do when you're playing blackjack. 206 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,266 But we're doing Double-down because it's twins. 207 00:10:16,266 --> 00:10:19,333 [sighing] So cute. 208 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,233 -Double hug. Double hug. -[both exclaiming] Hey! 209 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:23,066 [Christine] I mean, there's a lot of people coming to the sprinkle, 210 00:10:23,066 --> 00:10:24,367 a lot of friends, a lot of family. 211 00:10:24,367 --> 00:10:25,533 Janelle's not coming. 212 00:10:25,533 --> 00:10:27,867 She was definitely invited, but she's not able to come. 213 00:10:27,867 --> 00:10:29,433 Meri won't be invited. 214 00:10:31,066 --> 00:10:34,567 I... I have not told Janelle or Christine 215 00:10:34,567 --> 00:10:37,734 that Kody and I had that breakup conversation 216 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:38,900 and that we're splitting. 217 00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:41,033 I don't know if somebody else has told them or not, 218 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:42,634 but I haven't said anything to them. 219 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:45,567 I don't really feel the need to. 220 00:10:45,567 --> 00:10:47,867 -[Dealer] You're gonna hit on that? -You're gonna hit on that? 221 00:10:47,867 --> 00:10:49,367 -Why not? -[women whooping] 222 00:10:49,367 --> 00:10:51,667 [Christine] I will do anything for Mykelti. 223 00:10:51,667 --> 00:10:54,033 And Mykelti wants Kody and Robyn at her sprinkle, 224 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:55,467 so, of course, they can come to the sprinkle. 225 00:10:55,467 --> 00:10:58,500 Robyn will probably be at the Twins birth, I imagine. 226 00:10:59,667 --> 00:11:01,967 I'm a little nervous about seeing them. 227 00:11:01,967 --> 00:11:03,166 I'm nervous. 228 00:11:03,166 --> 00:11:07,567 I'm pretty sure this is the first time I'll be seeing them 229 00:11:07,567 --> 00:11:09,333 after I left. 230 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,066 Just the knife in the kidneys! Over all these years! 231 00:11:13,066 --> 00:11:18,000 And the sacrifices that I made to love you! 232 00:11:18,967 --> 00:11:20,767 Wasted! 233 00:11:20,767 --> 00:11:23,667 I mean, Kody was furious the last time that he spoke to me, 234 00:11:23,667 --> 00:11:25,367 and we haven't talked since. 235 00:11:25,367 --> 00:11:28,467 -[Aspyn] Come on. Come on. -[all cheering] 236 00:11:28,467 --> 00:11:31,033 [Kody] I'm very excited to see Tony and Mykelti. 237 00:11:31,100 --> 00:11:33,033 Robyn and I are terribly nervous, though, 238 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:34,734 mostly because... 239 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:38,166 uh, well, I haven't seen Christine in months. 240 00:11:38,166 --> 00:11:39,567 I can't fake this off. 241 00:11:39,567 --> 00:11:42,000 Seeing her, there's so much animosity. 242 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,233 It's all... something that embarrasses me 243 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:45,967 'cause I think it's all very childish. 244 00:11:45,967 --> 00:11:47,133 But I feel it. 245 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,333 [indistinct conversation] 246 00:11:48,333 --> 00:11:50,100 [Christine] I mean, we could take our bets on that. 247 00:11:50,667 --> 00:11:52,066 Wow. 248 00:11:52,066 --> 00:11:54,066 We didn't think about that with the gambling portion of the sprinkle. 249 00:11:54,066 --> 00:11:55,233 What if we take our bets 250 00:11:55,233 --> 00:11:57,033 on whether or not we're actually all going to get along 251 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:58,100 in the same place? 252 00:11:58,100 --> 00:11:59,433 No need to go there, 253 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:01,066 but maybe we should think about that. 254 00:12:01,066 --> 00:12:02,834 [indistinct chatter] 255 00:12:05,667 --> 00:12:08,367 Hello. Hey, Tony. 256 00:12:08,367 --> 00:12:09,600 [Tony] Oh. What's up? 257 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,867 "How are they gonna get along? Are they not gonna get along?" 258 00:12:11,867 --> 00:12:13,100 There might be a bet going, actually, 259 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:14,367 now that we're talking about it. 260 00:12:14,367 --> 00:12:15,700 I wouldn't be surprised. 261 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:19,867 Thank you. 262 00:12:19,867 --> 00:12:21,934 Glad you guys came. 263 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,066 [Christine] I don't know what's gonna happen. 264 00:12:23,066 --> 00:12:24,266 This is a gamble. 265 00:12:24,266 --> 00:12:26,266 [indistinct conversation] 266 00:12:26,266 --> 00:12:28,266 [Christine] I'm not gonna, necessarily, say hi. 267 00:12:28,266 --> 00:12:31,266 That would mean I was gonna be friendly, 268 00:12:31,266 --> 00:12:32,934 and I'm not. 269 00:12:34,867 --> 00:12:36,300 [dramatic music playing] 270 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,634 [Robyn] I'm a little nervous going to this baby shower. 271 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:47,066 The last time I saw Christine was when she told us 272 00:12:47,066 --> 00:12:50,567 that she didn't want a relationship with me and my kids. 273 00:12:50,567 --> 00:12:55,066 I'm just nervous because our divorce hasn't been really amicable. 274 00:12:55,066 --> 00:12:56,266 It's been sad, 275 00:12:56,266 --> 00:13:01,467 and we just hope that the environment is warm and friendly. 276 00:13:01,467 --> 00:13:02,767 -Oh. -[baby cooing] 277 00:13:02,767 --> 00:13:04,066 Oh, oh... 278 00:13:04,066 --> 00:13:07,767 I'm really nervous about Kody and Robyn coming to the sprinkle. 279 00:13:07,767 --> 00:13:09,266 I just am. 280 00:13:09,266 --> 00:13:11,166 -Oh! What's up? -Your stuff. 281 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:14,166 Oh, thank you. Thank you. Glad you guys came. 282 00:13:14,166 --> 00:13:16,066 Mykelti is like, "Dad and Robyn are here." 283 00:13:16,066 --> 00:13:18,367 And I'm like, "Okay, okay." 284 00:13:18,367 --> 00:13:20,233 Hola, mi bambina. 285 00:13:21,867 --> 00:13:23,867 [tense music playing] 286 00:13:23,867 --> 00:13:25,767 [indistinct conversation] 287 00:13:25,767 --> 00:13:26,567 La samba? 288 00:13:26,567 --> 00:13:27,734 Wanna dance? 289 00:13:28,467 --> 00:13:30,100 Wanna dance? 290 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,767 [Catherine sighs wearily] 291 00:13:35,767 --> 00:13:37,567 It's hard. I don't know what's gonna happen. 292 00:13:37,567 --> 00:13:38,400 I'm still... 293 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,567 This is a gamble. This is a gamble. 294 00:13:40,567 --> 00:13:42,734 I imagine everything's gonna be okay, 295 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,433 but the last time we saw each other, 296 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:46,600 which was like a year ago, 297 00:13:46,867 --> 00:13:48,834 was not okay. 298 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:51,734 [Robyn] Hey. Hi. 299 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,233 You guys just snuck in. Hi. 300 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:56,734 -Hey, Dad. -Hi. How are you? 301 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,867 -I'm good. -How's it going? 302 00:13:57,867 --> 00:13:59,000 And then I just keep being like, "You know what? 303 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 This is about Mykelti, and it's not even about me." 304 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,967 She would love everybody to get back together again 305 00:14:03,967 --> 00:14:05,767 and be one big family again. 306 00:14:05,767 --> 00:14:07,567 She really would. 307 00:14:07,567 --> 00:14:11,033 And this little piggy went, "Ho, ho, ho, ho. He, he, he, he." 308 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:12,767 Ah. Strange world. 309 00:14:12,767 --> 00:14:14,467 [Catherine] My kids still want to have 310 00:14:14,467 --> 00:14:16,266 a great relationship with their dad. 311 00:14:16,266 --> 00:14:19,533 I still want them to have a great relationship with their dad. 312 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,033 And with Robyn, too. 313 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:22,734 Do you wanna play blackjack? 314 00:14:23,667 --> 00:14:24,834 Sure. 315 00:14:24,900 --> 00:14:26,166 With somebody else's money, 316 00:14:26,166 --> 00:14:28,767 I'll take every risk that I should have before. 317 00:14:28,767 --> 00:14:30,967 [Robyn] I can't speak for Kody and Christine, 318 00:14:30,967 --> 00:14:35,100 but I kept my distance and did not greet Christine 319 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:37,834 because she told me she didn't want a relationship 320 00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:40,133 and I don't wanna push myself on her. 321 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,700 I want to have any relationship that I can have, 322 00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:46,600 but it takes two. 323 00:14:47,767 --> 00:14:49,467 I'm gonna stay. 324 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:57,133 [Christine] Yes. I noticed that Kody and Robyn were at one table, 325 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,467 and I was at another. 326 00:14:58,467 --> 00:15:00,700 I'm not gonna, necessarily, say hi. 327 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,500 [chuckles] Nasty. 328 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,667 Oh. Oh. 329 00:15:06,667 --> 00:15:09,667 How's it going? How is everything? 330 00:15:09,667 --> 00:15:11,467 That would be disingenuous. 331 00:15:11,467 --> 00:15:15,834 And that would mean I was going to be friends 332 00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:17,133 and friendly, 333 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,667 and I'm not. 334 00:15:18,667 --> 00:15:21,266 I'm not gonna be friendly. 335 00:15:21,266 --> 00:15:23,333 That ace would have gone to there anyway. 336 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,734 I think Christine's in a good place 337 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,934 because she's moved out. 338 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,433 She's moved on. 339 00:15:34,166 --> 00:15:37,467 Robyn and I are really, kind of, in a struggling place. 340 00:15:37,467 --> 00:15:38,934 Uh, 23. 341 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,266 -[Robyn groans softly] -Busted. Bummer. 342 00:15:41,266 --> 00:15:44,333 We're probably doing the worst we've ever done in our marriage. 343 00:15:45,367 --> 00:15:48,033 It's been tough. It's been tough between us. 344 00:15:48,867 --> 00:15:50,934 He doesn't know who to blame, 345 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,600 himself or one of the other wives. 346 00:15:54,567 --> 00:15:56,367 Kody's feeling a lot of rejection, 347 00:15:56,367 --> 00:15:59,867 and so I think he's, kind of, looking at me going, 348 00:15:59,867 --> 00:16:02,266 "Are you gonna reject me too?" 349 00:16:02,266 --> 00:16:04,533 And so, I'm on my toes. 350 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,000 I'm having to consistently make sure 351 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,033 that he is not sabotaging our relationship. 352 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,233 And I miss the family experience, you know, the kids, 353 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:19,834 and I miss the camaraderie that I did have with my sister wives. 354 00:16:21,767 --> 00:16:23,834 And now with this thing with Meri, 355 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:26,166 it's made it even worse and harder. 356 00:16:26,166 --> 00:16:28,266 I just keep, kind of, crossing my fingers 357 00:16:28,266 --> 00:16:31,767 that Janelle will decide to stick it out and figure it out with Kody. 358 00:16:31,767 --> 00:16:35,367 There is no resource to help with the idea 359 00:16:35,367 --> 00:16:39,533 that I am still married to a man who's going through divorces. 360 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,767 [Dealer] I took a hit for you. I took a hit for you. 361 00:16:41,767 --> 00:16:43,567 -Lucky hit, but... -[Dealer] Okay. 362 00:16:43,567 --> 00:16:45,667 [Kody] I love Robyn, and she's dear to me, 363 00:16:45,667 --> 00:16:47,266 and I respect her dearly. 364 00:16:47,266 --> 00:16:49,333 Her telling me I'm still good 365 00:16:49,867 --> 00:16:52,767 is valuable to me. 366 00:16:52,767 --> 00:16:54,734 I want to give it more credibility. 367 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,900 But I've had three other people basically blame me. 368 00:16:59,467 --> 00:17:01,033 It's just not that easy. 369 00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:03,767 It's like I've gone through an entire experience 370 00:17:03,767 --> 00:17:06,667 with a breakup and then a breakup and then a breakup 371 00:17:06,667 --> 00:17:09,467 of not losing my faith, 372 00:17:09,467 --> 00:17:13,734 but being so angry that I can't look myself in the mirror and say, 373 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,967 "Hey, dude, I love you." 374 00:17:14,967 --> 00:17:16,567 And I can't go to God and say, 375 00:17:16,567 --> 00:17:18,000 "Hey, help me through this mess." 376 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,300 I do, 377 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:21,934 but my prayers aren't the same kind of prayers they used to be 378 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,834 when I was like, "Hey, thank you for this beautiful family." 379 00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:26,967 Okay. So they did make the square... 380 00:17:26,967 --> 00:17:28,166 I had that. You want any more? 381 00:17:28,166 --> 00:17:30,634 -Are they good? -It was. 382 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:32,867 Prima still makes her cake once... 383 00:17:32,867 --> 00:17:35,133 her carrot cake with my gluten free recipe. 384 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,166 Your, um, carrot cake is here somewhere. 385 00:17:37,166 --> 00:17:38,667 -Somebody... it is one of them. -Well, it is, 386 00:17:38,667 --> 00:17:39,767 and it's gluten free. 387 00:17:39,767 --> 00:17:40,767 Isn't that cute? 388 00:17:40,767 --> 00:17:42,500 -Hey, husband. -Yum. 389 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:43,934 Yum. 390 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:45,600 We have to cut cake. 391 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,934 [Christine] I mean, seeing Kody and Robyn at the party, 392 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,166 I realized, all of a sudden, 393 00:17:50,166 --> 00:17:52,133 that this was more awkward for them. 394 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,734 They're outsiders here, 395 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:54,834 not me. 396 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:56,500 I just don't wanna talk to her. 397 00:17:56,867 --> 00:17:58,734 I don't want to see her. 398 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,834 She doesn't wanna see me, I'm sure, either. 399 00:18:02,567 --> 00:18:04,266 -Go for it. -[Catherine] Yeah! Cut it! 400 00:18:04,266 --> 00:18:05,533 Do it. 401 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,600 [Aspyn] Cut it. 402 00:18:17,767 --> 00:18:20,567 [Kody] The divorce has put me in, 403 00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:23,567 I'll be honest, a pretty dark place. 404 00:18:23,567 --> 00:18:28,934 I've spent a lot of time hearing Christina and Janelle berate me 405 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,133 in ways that have challenged my resolve for, sort of, love of myself. 406 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,066 For years, they were singing my praises, 407 00:18:36,066 --> 00:18:38,567 and now they're, sort of, loathing me. 408 00:18:38,567 --> 00:18:41,467 If they're trashing me to the public, 409 00:18:41,467 --> 00:18:43,567 I can't imagine what they're saying to my children. 410 00:18:43,567 --> 00:18:45,000 So, it makes me very uncomfortable. 411 00:18:46,867 --> 00:18:48,467 [Christine] I hear Kody grumble about... 412 00:18:48,467 --> 00:18:51,634 he thinks that I've pitted his kids against him, 413 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:52,500 and it's just not true. 414 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:55,000 I'm gonna do everything that I can 415 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,600 to have them have a good relationship with him. 416 00:18:59,567 --> 00:19:02,834 [Robyn] I know Kody's convinced 417 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:05,033 that their mom is saying stuff to them. 418 00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:06,467 I know the rules. 419 00:19:06,467 --> 00:19:08,867 I've gone through my own divorce, 420 00:19:08,867 --> 00:19:12,900 and I would never, ever, ever badmouth their mother to them, ever. 421 00:19:14,767 --> 00:19:17,266 [Kody] I'm sitting here almost manic, you know, 422 00:19:17,266 --> 00:19:19,767 with this broken heart and my happy facade... [chuckles softly] 423 00:19:19,767 --> 00:19:21,166 going into this party, 424 00:19:21,166 --> 00:19:23,467 excited about Tony and Mykelti and the babies 425 00:19:23,467 --> 00:19:26,367 while my heart is breaking. 426 00:19:26,367 --> 00:19:27,934 [Catherine] Well, I mean, in the end, 427 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,266 just Kody and Robyn and being in their space 428 00:19:30,266 --> 00:19:31,767 is just gonna happen sometimes. 429 00:19:31,767 --> 00:19:35,066 And for sure, Robyn's gonna be at the birth of the twins, too. 430 00:19:35,066 --> 00:19:35,967 And this is just what it is. 431 00:19:35,967 --> 00:19:38,734 We're just gonna be in the same space. 432 00:19:48,266 --> 00:19:52,233 Just the failure of the experience that was everything. 433 00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:57,400 [voice shaking] All my goals... 434 00:19:57,867 --> 00:19:59,166 Now failures happen, 435 00:19:59,166 --> 00:20:02,467 and I'm gonna grow up and I'm gonna put on my big-boy panties, 436 00:20:02,467 --> 00:20:04,800 and I'm gonna get through this, you know that I am. 437 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:09,767 [sighing sadly] But it was, like, the dream of Camelot. 438 00:20:09,767 --> 00:20:11,767 You know, it was like we had this dream 439 00:20:11,767 --> 00:20:14,266 and, you know, a whisper might have blown it away, 440 00:20:14,266 --> 00:20:16,100 but we strengthened, we got strong, 441 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:18,700 and then it just fell to [bleep] 442 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:21,133 and it's very sad to me. 443 00:20:25,667 --> 00:20:27,667 Kody and I are officially done. 444 00:20:27,667 --> 00:20:29,700 -Are you serious? -I'm not joking. 445 00:20:31,066 --> 00:20:33,266 I wish I was. [sighs] But I'm not. 446 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:35,333 I'm really, really, really... 447 00:20:35,867 --> 00:20:36,900 glad. 448 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:39,567 I've had other people in my life that are like, 449 00:20:39,567 --> 00:20:42,667 "Okay, we're here for ya. We're supporting ya," 450 00:20:42,667 --> 00:20:44,900 and, "It's about damn time." 451 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,500 [upbeat music playing] 452 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,767 -[Ysabel] Hello, Mama. -Hello, my love. 453 00:20:53,767 --> 00:20:57,200 Ysabel's been in North Carolina with Maddie almost a year. 454 00:20:58,467 --> 00:21:00,734 I think it's good for her to come and... 455 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,200 kind of, get away from home 456 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,567 and, kind of, figure out who she was a little bit away from her mom. 457 00:21:04,567 --> 00:21:06,166 But she's ready to go back now. 458 00:21:06,166 --> 00:21:07,834 Especially that Christine lives in Salt Lake, 459 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:10,033 she's really anxious to be back. 460 00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:11,166 [Madison] So where should I put this? 461 00:21:11,166 --> 00:21:12,367 Just put it in there right now, 462 00:21:12,367 --> 00:21:13,567 and pull up that wall back there. 463 00:21:13,567 --> 00:21:16,367 "That wall." I know what that means. For sure, for sure. 464 00:21:16,367 --> 00:21:19,000 Ysabel's gonna be moving to Salt Lake. 465 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,066 Not with me, she's made it very clear. 466 00:21:21,066 --> 00:21:22,567 She does not want to stay with me 467 00:21:22,567 --> 00:21:24,066 even for, like, a week. 468 00:21:24,066 --> 00:21:26,567 But she wants to go to the University of Utah 469 00:21:26,567 --> 00:21:28,200 and live in Salt Lake City. 470 00:21:29,266 --> 00:21:32,166 So Janelle and Maddie will be bringing Maddie's car, 471 00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:35,000 and then Ysabel and I will be in her car. 472 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,734 -Are you doing all right, honey? -Yeah. 473 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,767 I don't want you to ache. You should not ache. 474 00:21:39,767 --> 00:21:41,834 -It's pregnancy. I ache all the time. -I know, 475 00:21:41,900 --> 00:21:43,767 but you shouldn't ache from exertion. 476 00:21:43,767 --> 00:21:45,767 -Oh, I don't ache from exertion. -[Janelle chuckling] Okay. 477 00:21:45,767 --> 00:21:47,734 [Janelle] Maddie's expecting a baby, 478 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,834 and she's somewhere around four months along. 479 00:21:49,900 --> 00:21:51,266 Her baby's due in February. 480 00:21:51,266 --> 00:21:53,333 [Madison] Okay. Look, we're gonna... I'm gonna put this down here, 481 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,867 and you're gonna roll it to Grandma. 482 00:21:54,867 --> 00:21:57,066 [Janelle] Here she is, doing all this heavy lifting, and I'm like, 483 00:21:57,066 --> 00:21:59,400 "Just stop. We can do this." 484 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:02,834 Yeah. I really haven't seen Kody in months. 485 00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:04,834 It's so funny. I don't really think about him, 486 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:07,567 except for when I'm starting to think about the property. 487 00:22:07,567 --> 00:22:09,066 The bed frames need to go in so... 488 00:22:09,066 --> 00:22:11,767 Well then, we can have them go straight across right here. 489 00:22:11,767 --> 00:22:13,667 Christine likes to think I'm somehow not over him 490 00:22:13,667 --> 00:22:17,100 because I haven't had some sort of "Official conversation," 491 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:18,867 but we've had lots of little ones. 492 00:22:18,867 --> 00:22:20,367 I don't see him, 493 00:22:20,367 --> 00:22:22,033 and I don't really miss him. 494 00:22:24,567 --> 00:22:26,367 [Christine] And when I first married Kody, 495 00:22:26,367 --> 00:22:28,734 I thought that we would be together forever. 496 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,200 And then, it fell apart. 497 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:35,000 And now I still have Janelle. 498 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,767 I think this one qualifies as heavy. 499 00:22:36,767 --> 00:22:37,934 [chuckles] 500 00:22:37,934 --> 00:22:41,667 I don't know what to do with the word "Plural family." 501 00:22:41,667 --> 00:22:43,834 I think we're sister wives 502 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:46,333 that are raising kids together 503 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800 that were part of the plural family. 504 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,367 All right. Everything's loaded. 505 00:22:53,367 --> 00:22:55,667 The kids don't have a great relationship with Kody. 506 00:22:55,667 --> 00:22:58,533 Not all the wives have a good relationship with each other. 507 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,834 So, that's why I wouldn't say it's a plural family. 508 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:02,967 I would say that what Janelle and I have 509 00:23:02,967 --> 00:23:04,700 is a sister-wife family. 510 00:23:08,700 --> 00:23:11,900 They're moving Ysabel, so Janelle helped? 511 00:23:12,166 --> 00:23:14,100 [chuckles softly] 512 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,900 Oh, my goodness. The tables have turned so bad. 513 00:23:21,767 --> 00:23:23,533 Christine didn't want to live in the same house 514 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,867 because she was always having to walk on eggshells with Janelle and Meri. 515 00:23:28,867 --> 00:23:32,767 And now, Janelle seems to be, kind of, um, 516 00:23:32,767 --> 00:23:34,533 following Christine around, like, 517 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,634 "Oh. You know, you're so awesome, and your life is so great. 518 00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:38,700 And I felt..." 519 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:41,934 It's just... that's what appears to me to be. 520 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,600 I'm not getting the big picture anymore because I'm not involved. 521 00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:56,133 [knock on door] 522 00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,233 -Meri! -Hello. 523 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:00,600 How are you? 524 00:24:00,867 --> 00:24:02,266 Surprise! 525 00:24:02,266 --> 00:24:07,000 So I am in Las Vegas and I am gonna go see a friend of mine, Brandi. 526 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,767 I have known her... almost the whole time we've been in Las Vegas. 527 00:24:11,767 --> 00:24:14,467 -What are you doing? -Just hanging out. 528 00:24:14,467 --> 00:24:16,867 I was here for some meetings. 529 00:24:16,867 --> 00:24:19,634 Um... Onto California tomorrow. 530 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:20,834 So, I had to come visit. 531 00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:21,800 Sit down. Do you want some water? 532 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,266 -Hi, Tim. -Hey, Meri. What's going on? 533 00:24:24,266 --> 00:24:26,266 [Meri] How's it going? 534 00:24:26,266 --> 00:24:28,767 -Good to see you again. -[Meri sighing] Good to see you. 535 00:24:28,767 --> 00:24:31,300 -How's Arizona? -Fabulous. 536 00:24:31,667 --> 00:24:32,934 Fabulous. 537 00:24:32,934 --> 00:24:35,867 You know, it's always a little bit weird going back to Vegas 538 00:24:35,867 --> 00:24:40,367 like I don't like to go around to the side of town that we used to live in, 539 00:24:40,367 --> 00:24:41,634 because it's just sad to me. 540 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:43,634 -So... -[Brandi] Yes. 541 00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:44,700 What do you have to tell me now? 542 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:46,433 -I have to tell you something now. -Oh, jeez. 543 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:48,667 I do not want to know. 544 00:24:48,667 --> 00:24:50,767 Kody and I are officially done. 545 00:24:50,767 --> 00:24:53,567 -[sighing] Oh, jeez. -[Meri laughs] 546 00:24:53,567 --> 00:24:56,000 -Are you serious? -I'm not joking. 547 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,433 I wish I was. [sighs] But I'm not. 548 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:00,300 Wow. 549 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:02,133 -Does he know? -[both laughing] 550 00:25:02,767 --> 00:25:05,533 -You've told Kody, right? -He does. 551 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,567 We actually... he basically told me. 552 00:25:09,567 --> 00:25:12,367 I don't know what to say about this because... 553 00:25:12,367 --> 00:25:14,133 I'm really, really, really... 554 00:25:14,867 --> 00:25:16,033 glad... 555 00:25:17,367 --> 00:25:21,567 because you've been done, unofficially, for a long time. 556 00:25:21,567 --> 00:25:24,100 So when Brandi says that she's glad, 557 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:27,634 it's just another, "Okay." 558 00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:30,867 I've had other people in my life that are, like, "Okay." 559 00:25:30,867 --> 00:25:34,567 You know, when I finally made this decision, and this is what we're doing, 560 00:25:34,567 --> 00:25:37,900 they're like, "Okay, we're here for ya. We're supporting ya," 561 00:25:38,467 --> 00:25:40,734 and, "It's about damn time." 562 00:25:44,066 --> 00:25:45,934 He's having, like, the... 563 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,767 super-weird midlife crisis. 564 00:25:47,767 --> 00:25:49,467 That's what it feels like to me. 565 00:25:49,467 --> 00:25:52,233 He says these things to try to push me out. 566 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:53,300 I, honestly, just don't... 567 00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:56,166 I'm about to call him and just... yell at him. 568 00:25:56,166 --> 00:25:59,166 He's gonna be so mad at me in this interview, 569 00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:02,900 and I'm, kind of, not giving a flying rat's ass. 570 00:26:05,166 --> 00:26:07,467 [upbeat music playing] 571 00:26:07,467 --> 00:26:10,734 [Catherine] Maddie insisted we just drive like maniacs. 572 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,100 We made it in three days. 573 00:26:18,767 --> 00:26:21,700 So Mykelti is coming over tonight to hang out for a bit. 574 00:26:22,066 --> 00:26:23,266 Is this Oma's house? 575 00:26:23,266 --> 00:26:25,266 [Catherine] Basically, she's just big. She's just big. 576 00:26:25,266 --> 00:26:26,867 She's pregnant with twins. 577 00:26:26,867 --> 00:26:28,300 Mykelti does it all. 578 00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:29,767 [indistinct chatter] 579 00:26:29,767 --> 00:26:31,634 Hey, Axel. 580 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,767 It's your cousin, Avalon. 581 00:26:33,767 --> 00:26:36,000 -Oh, miss you, Ms. K. -[Axel] Hi, Avalon! 582 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,133 Ms. Avalon, this is your cousin. 583 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,233 This is your cousin. This is Ms. Evie K. 584 00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:41,667 -[Axel screaming] -Say hi. 585 00:26:41,667 --> 00:26:42,967 Axel. Axel. Axel. 586 00:26:42,967 --> 00:26:44,100 [Evie exclaiming] 587 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:45,667 [Mykelti] Last time I saw you, I was pregnant with her. 588 00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:47,333 And now, here you guys both are pregnant. 589 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,400 So that's pretty fun, if you ask me. 590 00:26:50,867 --> 00:26:54,266 [Janelle] I know that Maddie has not had any conversations with her dad. 591 00:26:54,266 --> 00:26:56,667 He's not called. She's not called him 592 00:26:56,667 --> 00:26:58,567 and she doesn't have any relationship with Robyn. 593 00:26:58,567 --> 00:27:01,100 She's pretty much written them both off. 594 00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,867 She doesn't really want him to have any contact 595 00:27:02,867 --> 00:27:06,533 unless he can commit to like a consistent presence. 596 00:27:09,266 --> 00:27:10,634 I won't talk about her. 597 00:27:10,967 --> 00:27:12,433 Nope. 598 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,066 I don't understand why Kody's not reaching out to Madison 599 00:27:19,066 --> 00:27:20,266 or some of the other kids. 600 00:27:20,266 --> 00:27:25,166 I know he's in a very angry and hurt place, 601 00:27:25,166 --> 00:27:27,934 but he should just be putting in the effort. Um... 602 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,767 But I think the kids should be doing the same thing, too. 603 00:27:30,767 --> 00:27:32,467 How was your appointment today? What happened? 604 00:27:32,467 --> 00:27:34,533 They're moving well. Their heartbeats are steady. 605 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,834 They're doing fine. 606 00:27:35,834 --> 00:27:37,667 You guys... You have your date, though. Like, you have... 607 00:27:37,667 --> 00:27:40,100 Yeah. I scheduled my inducement. 608 00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:41,133 Are you excited? 609 00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:43,667 -To get them out of me? Yes. -[Catherine laughs] 610 00:27:43,667 --> 00:27:47,100 I think the current state of my family is, honestly, heartbreaking. 611 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:49,433 I mean, you look back 14 years ago 612 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:50,867 when Robyn first joined the family, 613 00:27:50,867 --> 00:27:54,467 and we were all this, like, beautiful, united, 614 00:27:54,467 --> 00:27:57,266 together-against-all-odds vibe. 615 00:27:57,266 --> 00:27:59,433 It was really amazing. 616 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:01,634 And then, it's just the life has gone on, 617 00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:03,100 and that's, kind of, started to disjoint. 618 00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:05,834 It's really sad. It's honestly, just really sad. 619 00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:07,867 Okay, I was telling Mykelti. 620 00:28:07,867 --> 00:28:09,667 She goes, "Why are they... Why else are they here?" 621 00:28:09,667 --> 00:28:12,166 'Cause moving you, wedding, 622 00:28:12,166 --> 00:28:14,166 but then, there's one more reason. 623 00:28:14,166 --> 00:28:16,667 Oh, we're just gonna go look at property in Montana. 624 00:28:16,667 --> 00:28:18,433 [Catherine] Property, too. 625 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:19,567 Build on? 626 00:28:19,567 --> 00:28:22,266 [gasping] I know that's the secret. 627 00:28:22,266 --> 00:28:24,266 And what's more? 628 00:28:24,266 --> 00:28:29,700 Janelle's talking about possibly moving with them. 629 00:28:30,567 --> 00:28:33,867 [Janelle] Flagstaff no longer feels permanent, 630 00:28:33,867 --> 00:28:37,567 and if I had another option, I would probably take it. 631 00:28:37,567 --> 00:28:39,467 [indistinct conversation] 632 00:28:39,467 --> 00:28:43,634 They know that I suffer from FOMO about my family. 633 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,533 Fear of missing out, okay? 634 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,333 So anything they can do that excludes me 635 00:28:52,066 --> 00:28:54,100 is a punishment to me. 636 00:28:54,467 --> 00:28:55,533 We're gonna do a toast. 637 00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:56,567 -Let's move over here, everybody. -[Mykelti] Okay. 638 00:28:56,567 --> 00:28:58,000 Come on. 639 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,000 My big fear is that Janelle is gonna flip and move on to the property. 640 00:29:01,567 --> 00:29:03,100 So what if she builds a house 641 00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:06,266 and then, later Kody and Robyn decide to go build on the property, too? 642 00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:09,133 What, she needs to just stay there at that point? 643 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,667 That's not a good idea. 644 00:29:10,667 --> 00:29:13,934 It's just sparkling cider because you guys are... 645 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,667 There's some pregnancy and underage-ness going on. 646 00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:19,100 I worry that she's not gonna be happy 647 00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:20,867 and that she's just gonna be stuck. 648 00:29:20,867 --> 00:29:22,667 And I don't want her to feel stuck. 649 00:29:22,667 --> 00:29:24,100 -Party aches. -You know what? 650 00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:26,166 My achiness beats all of your achiness 651 00:29:26,166 --> 00:29:28,600 if we're gonna talk about ache-is, 652 00:29:35,867 --> 00:29:39,000 So on our anniversary this year, we went out. 653 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,367 You went out on your anniversary? 654 00:29:40,367 --> 00:29:41,667 Well... [chuckles softly] 655 00:29:41,667 --> 00:29:43,266 [Brandi] Like, how many years is that, like? 656 00:29:43,266 --> 00:29:45,867 -Thirty-two. -Oh, jeez. 657 00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:49,166 Yeah, it is, kind of, weird to say 32 658 00:29:49,166 --> 00:29:51,967 because, like, "Yeah, I've been married for 32 years." 659 00:29:51,967 --> 00:29:55,367 Like, have I been a married couple with Kody for 32 years? 660 00:29:55,367 --> 00:29:57,767 No, like not even close. 661 00:29:57,767 --> 00:30:01,133 But it's been 32 years that I've stayed committed. 662 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:03,667 Maybe I should've been committed 663 00:30:03,667 --> 00:30:05,900 for being committed. [chuckles softly] 664 00:30:08,767 --> 00:30:10,567 So, yeah. We just drove around a lot, 665 00:30:10,567 --> 00:30:11,934 and we talked a lot. 666 00:30:11,934 --> 00:30:16,367 And I was like, he was alluding to the fact that he never loved me, 667 00:30:16,367 --> 00:30:18,333 and he felt like he had to marry me. 668 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,300 Stop. 669 00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:21,266 I didn't understand how that it worked, 670 00:30:21,266 --> 00:30:23,166 and I said to him, I said, "Kody," 671 00:30:23,166 --> 00:30:25,000 I said, "I know you loved me." 672 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,834 And he's like, "Well, I was affirming that I loved you." 673 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:30,066 What is wrong with him? 674 00:30:30,066 --> 00:30:32,233 And this is what I can't understand. 675 00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:39,934 When a single young man meets a single young woman, 676 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,867 why would he choose to marry her 677 00:30:42,867 --> 00:30:47,166 and just affirm and force love for her 678 00:30:47,166 --> 00:30:48,900 when he didn't love her? 679 00:30:51,367 --> 00:30:54,734 Oh. Meri has her little accusations now. 680 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,667 [Meri] How cruel is that to pick me out of a crowd 681 00:30:59,667 --> 00:31:01,567 and just be like, "Hmm. I pick you 682 00:31:01,567 --> 00:31:05,600 to try to force myself to love for the next 32 years." 683 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,033 Like that makes sense. 684 00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,033 Fine. She can say whatever she wants. 685 00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:11,700 I'm not gonna comment on it. 686 00:31:12,867 --> 00:31:15,467 So that's basically what he's been telling me. 687 00:31:15,467 --> 00:31:17,166 You know how he's been acting, 688 00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:19,133 and things that he's been saying for years, 689 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,734 -and we haven't had a relationship... -Yeah. 690 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,533 -...for a long time, and... -Yeah. Yeah. 691 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,567 ...like ever since, we moved to Flagstaff. 692 00:31:26,567 --> 00:31:28,734 I mean, when we moved there, he was like, 693 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,266 "Oh. This will be a great time for a new beginning." 694 00:31:31,266 --> 00:31:34,233 It seemed he seemed very positive about it. 695 00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:36,533 And it just, kind of, went downhill. 696 00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,967 I, honestly, feel sad for him 697 00:31:39,967 --> 00:31:42,867 if that's what he's having to tell himself 698 00:31:42,867 --> 00:31:44,900 to justify... 699 00:31:45,767 --> 00:31:48,634 that he and I started this family. 700 00:31:49,166 --> 00:31:50,767 Like, why? 701 00:31:50,767 --> 00:31:54,433 Because Robyn was only ten at the time? 702 00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:58,367 Twelve? 703 00:31:58,367 --> 00:32:02,367 He's having, like... a super-weird midlife crisis. 704 00:32:02,367 --> 00:32:04,333 It's feels like to me. 705 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,967 [chuckling] Okay. Let's be honest. 706 00:32:05,967 --> 00:32:07,100 [Meri laughing] 707 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:08,634 He's always been... 708 00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:13,033 He's always been Kody, but at least he was kinder... 709 00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:14,467 -Yeah. -...to you. 710 00:32:14,467 --> 00:32:17,634 And I have not seen him... try... 711 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:19,133 -[Meri] No. -...for years. 712 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,033 This is, honestly, how I felt for quite a long time 713 00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:26,066 is that he says these things to try to push me out. 714 00:32:26,066 --> 00:32:29,600 Because if he can push me out, and I leave, 715 00:32:30,567 --> 00:32:33,100 he's not the bad guy because he didn't walk away. 716 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:35,033 Does Robyn know? 717 00:32:35,033 --> 00:32:37,967 -Yeah. Yeah... -I was gonna say she's probably the one 718 00:32:37,967 --> 00:32:39,467 that's the most upset. 719 00:32:39,467 --> 00:32:40,734 You're trying to comfort Robyn. 720 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,867 You're both like, 721 00:32:41,867 --> 00:32:44,367 -"Robyn, it's okay. It's okay." -[Meri laughing] 722 00:32:44,367 --> 00:32:47,433 Yeah. It feels like everything is just, sort of, falling apart, 723 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:50,000 and I'm trying so hard to remain hopeful. 724 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,367 It feels like I'm in an alternate reality or something. 725 00:32:54,367 --> 00:32:58,266 Like, I just don't know how to wrap my brain around what's happened. 726 00:32:58,266 --> 00:33:02,166 I wish Robyn would just let Meri go, honestly. 727 00:33:02,166 --> 00:33:03,934 Kody, let Meri go a long time ago. 728 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,834 I wish Robyn would let her go 729 00:33:04,834 --> 00:33:06,600 so she could just live her own life. 730 00:33:06,967 --> 00:33:07,967 I, honestly, just... 731 00:33:07,967 --> 00:33:10,734 I'm about to call him and just... yell at him. 732 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,800 It wouldn't do any good. 733 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,000 It wouldn't, but it would make me feel better. 734 00:33:14,767 --> 00:33:17,667 He's gonna be so mad at me in this interview. 735 00:33:17,667 --> 00:33:21,233 I'm, kind of, not giving a flying rat's ass. 736 00:33:26,166 --> 00:33:28,667 He just keeps saying things like, 737 00:33:28,667 --> 00:33:31,100 "Well, I don't think polygamy is fair to women." 738 00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,834 That's not the Kody I know. 739 00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:34,667 I think there's a lot of people that would say, 740 00:33:34,667 --> 00:33:36,467 "This is not the Kody I know." 741 00:33:36,467 --> 00:33:38,667 I am upset with how I was treated. 742 00:33:38,667 --> 00:33:41,900 I mean, I feel like you're letting him off a little too easy. 743 00:33:45,967 --> 00:33:47,066 [dramatic music playing] 744 00:33:48,867 --> 00:33:52,367 -So what's next? What's... I mean. -[sighs wearily] 745 00:33:52,367 --> 00:33:54,634 I'm still trying to figure that out. 746 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,000 At this point, 747 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,533 -I know that I am not gonna renew my lease at my house. -Yeah. 748 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,233 I'm gonna go to the B&B. 749 00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:03,634 I don't know. I mean, I'm sad for you, 750 00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:06,266 but at the same time, I'm relieved for you 751 00:34:06,266 --> 00:34:09,467 because you have not... 752 00:34:09,467 --> 00:34:12,233 had what you need... 753 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,166 in that relationship for years. 754 00:34:14,166 --> 00:34:16,100 It's really just heartbreaking to me 755 00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,734 because, like, 32 years ago, 756 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,100 -I didn't sign up for... -Right. 757 00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,634 ...just a little bit. 758 00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:23,533 I don't know. It's weird. 759 00:34:23,533 --> 00:34:26,467 He he just keeps saying things like, 760 00:34:26,467 --> 00:34:28,867 "Well, I don't think polygamy is fair to women." 761 00:34:28,867 --> 00:34:30,367 That's not the Kody I know. 762 00:34:30,367 --> 00:34:32,166 I think there's a lot of people that would say, 763 00:34:32,166 --> 00:34:34,367 "This is not the Kody I know." 764 00:34:34,367 --> 00:34:39,467 I don't know that it's... that he he cares about the fact 765 00:34:39,467 --> 00:34:41,934 that polygamy isn't fair to women. 766 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,467 Maybe he's just not being fair to women. 767 00:34:44,467 --> 00:34:47,066 [groans softly] I mean, it's just like... I don't know. 768 00:34:47,066 --> 00:34:49,100 Meri says maybe I was unfair. 769 00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:52,133 Well, it's just as unfair to me 770 00:34:52,967 --> 00:34:55,800 'cause I didn't have a choice to get out, 771 00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:58,634 and they all do. 772 00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:01,166 Okay. We had the legal divorce, 773 00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:03,834 but I still was married. 774 00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:05,767 If I didn't consider myself married, 775 00:35:05,767 --> 00:35:08,100 -then all the other marriages were... -Right. 776 00:35:08,567 --> 00:35:09,600 ...null and void. 777 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,634 And then what have we been doing all these years? 778 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:14,667 We have that spiritual marriage 779 00:35:14,667 --> 00:35:17,000 that we have always considered... 780 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,467 Mmm-hmm. 781 00:35:18,467 --> 00:35:20,467 ...a thing. You know what I mean? 782 00:35:20,467 --> 00:35:22,867 I am upset with how I was treated. 783 00:35:22,867 --> 00:35:25,667 I am upset with the last 10 or 12 years, 784 00:35:25,667 --> 00:35:29,467 and his lack of communication and how he really felt and what he really wanted 785 00:35:29,467 --> 00:35:31,467 or what he really didn't want, 786 00:35:31,467 --> 00:35:33,400 and the story that he's been telling... 787 00:35:34,367 --> 00:35:35,834 for all these years. 788 00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,133 [Kody] My name is Kody Brown. 789 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,333 I'm a polygamist, 790 00:35:40,333 --> 00:35:42,767 but we're not the polygamists you think you know. 791 00:35:42,767 --> 00:35:44,600 I have three awesome wives, 792 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,333 Meri, Janelle and Christine 793 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,667 and I have 12 wonderful children. 794 00:35:49,667 --> 00:35:53,266 Love should be multiplied, not divided. 795 00:35:53,266 --> 00:35:57,033 I'm upset about that because that's not fair to me, 796 00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:00,100 to anybody in the family, 797 00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:02,233 to anybody watching our story. 798 00:36:02,567 --> 00:36:03,867 What about the land? 799 00:36:03,867 --> 00:36:06,634 I will get my spot of land. 800 00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:09,333 [Christine] So I signed my parts of the land over to the family. 801 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,500 I was just done. 802 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,033 I hope that Janelle and Meri get a fair share of it. 803 00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:14,467 I suspect they won't 804 00:36:14,467 --> 00:36:16,867 just because I know Kody and how he works. 805 00:36:16,867 --> 00:36:18,667 I don't think they're gonna get their fair share. 806 00:36:18,667 --> 00:36:20,767 Just telling you, I just don't. 807 00:36:20,767 --> 00:36:23,000 I don't like to talk about it. It makes me so frustrated. 808 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,033 It's gonna be one big house for the three of them. 809 00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:30,000 Janelle's not gonna stay. There's no way. 810 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,266 I don't know what's going on with Janelle. 811 00:36:32,266 --> 00:36:34,433 I mean, I guess there's room for a couple more now 812 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:37,433 -if he... -[both laughing] 813 00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:39,867 I don't know. I mean, maybe. 814 00:36:39,867 --> 00:36:43,033 -[Meri] So... -That land you've gotten divided already. 815 00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,667 -[laughs] -[laughing] It's not divided. 816 00:36:44,667 --> 00:36:46,433 Wonder if Robyn will leave him. 817 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:47,166 [laughs] 818 00:36:47,166 --> 00:36:49,000 This is not what she wanted. 819 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,133 -No. -No. 820 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,367 I don't believe that Robyn has a bad heart. 821 00:36:54,367 --> 00:36:59,367 And there's a lot of people, within the family and otherwise, 822 00:36:59,367 --> 00:37:02,800 that I think... think that she does. 823 00:37:03,767 --> 00:37:05,467 You know, it's it's been hard 824 00:37:05,467 --> 00:37:10,100 because, like, she and I were close at the very beginning, 825 00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:12,100 and I know she's always had my back 826 00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,033 and has been supportive. 827 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,467 But I guess it just is what it is now 828 00:37:16,467 --> 00:37:21,166 and she and Kody are gonna have to figure out a way, 829 00:37:21,166 --> 00:37:26,100 you know, to live together and live with that, honestly. 830 00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,767 I mean, I feel like you're letting him off a little too easy. 831 00:37:28,767 --> 00:37:30,367 [both chuckle] 832 00:37:30,367 --> 00:37:31,767 I'd be angry. 833 00:37:31,767 --> 00:37:34,166 I have, definitely, had my moments of anger. 834 00:37:34,166 --> 00:37:37,667 [sighs] Don't let him suppress you anymore. 835 00:37:37,667 --> 00:37:39,767 I'm not gonna be a jerk. 836 00:37:39,767 --> 00:37:43,133 -No. -I'm not gonna say mean things about him 837 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,000 even though sometimes I might feel them. 838 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,533 Well, I'm angry. 839 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,500 -[chuckles] -Thank you. 840 00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,033 -I hope, I don't get upset. -Thank you. 841 00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:51,934 I'm very angry. 842 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,133 This is the big one for me right now. 843 00:37:54,867 --> 00:37:56,367 [chuckles softly] 844 00:37:56,367 --> 00:37:59,367 All those years that we weren't together, 845 00:37:59,367 --> 00:38:02,233 -but technically we were married... -Mmm-hmm. 846 00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:04,166 I still have, like, all my memories, 847 00:38:04,166 --> 00:38:06,667 -my 30 years of memories and... -Mmm-hmm. 848 00:38:06,667 --> 00:38:09,667 ...pictures and things on the wall, and... 849 00:38:09,667 --> 00:38:11,867 wedding gifts for my grandma 850 00:38:11,867 --> 00:38:14,367 and, you know, stuff like that. 851 00:38:14,367 --> 00:38:16,767 So what do I do with all those ornaments 852 00:38:16,767 --> 00:38:20,834 that my grandma gave me every year for Christmas, 853 00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:23,200 -with our pictures, you know? -[sighs] 854 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:28,800 -What do I do with all that stuff? -Yeah. 855 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,834 [Meri] To me, I feel like I need to grieve this a little bit more. 856 00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:37,734 If I were to just put a Christmas card out this year with just me, 857 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,667 it would almost be flaunting and saying, 858 00:38:39,667 --> 00:38:41,433 "Yeah, I'm so excited about this. 859 00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:44,900 I'm so happy about this and this is what I've done with my life," 860 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,667 and "Yay!" 861 00:38:46,667 --> 00:38:49,567 To me, the breakup of such a long marriage 862 00:38:49,567 --> 00:38:53,066 and a family is not something to celebrate. 863 00:38:53,066 --> 00:38:55,467 I have no idea where Meri and Kody's relationship stands. 864 00:38:55,467 --> 00:38:58,233 I... [sighs] 865 00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:01,333 I love being single. I love it. 866 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,333 I love my life now than I've ever loved my life before. 867 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,367 And I wish the same for Meri. I wish the same for Janelle. 868 00:39:09,367 --> 00:39:12,000 I want them to love their life. 869 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,667 -I don't like to see you hurt. -Yeah. 870 00:39:15,667 --> 00:39:17,967 So I'm ready to burn some pictures. 871 00:39:17,967 --> 00:39:19,667 [both laughing] 872 00:39:19,667 --> 00:39:22,000 -I'm not. -Whatever we need to do, we will. 873 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,333 I'm not. [chuckles] 874 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,100 I just don't think you ever knew what... 875 00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,166 how good it could be. 876 00:39:29,166 --> 00:39:32,667 Tim would never, ever say the things to me 877 00:39:32,667 --> 00:39:34,367 that Kody said to you. 878 00:39:34,367 --> 00:39:35,533 For 32 years, 879 00:39:35,533 --> 00:39:40,000 you've put up with something that you did not deserve. 880 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,800 He didn't deserve you, 881 00:39:42,066 --> 00:39:43,900 and you... 882 00:39:45,567 --> 00:39:46,934 you're free. 883 00:39:48,367 --> 00:39:52,000 I wonder if one day he's gonna wake up and be like, 884 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,066 "What did I do?" 885 00:39:53,066 --> 00:39:55,734 Like, "I just threw it all away." 886 00:39:57,767 --> 00:39:59,333 [Meri] You know, I know who I am. 887 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,834 I'm happy with who I am. 888 00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:02,333 I'm confident in who I am. 889 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,433 And I'm going to move forward with this great life. 890 00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:07,333 And if he's happy with this... 891 00:40:08,567 --> 00:40:11,467 good, I'm glad he's happy with it. 892 00:40:11,467 --> 00:40:16,133 But I kind of I suspect that Brandi's not wrong, 893 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,100 that he's gonna wake up one day and be like, 894 00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:21,800 "Wow. What the hell did I just do?" 895 00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:26,300 He's gonna be accountable for that 896 00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:28,734 whether he likes it or not. 897 00:40:30,567 --> 00:40:32,600 [Christine] This season on Sister Wives... 898 00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,467 -Hi, baby. -Hello. 899 00:40:36,467 --> 00:40:38,166 We've already planned our second date. 900 00:40:38,166 --> 00:40:39,467 I'm just telling you that straight up. 901 00:40:39,467 --> 00:40:43,100 Kody and I are...have officially said it's not working. 902 00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:44,467 Really? 903 00:40:44,467 --> 00:40:46,634 This was not the way it was supposed to go. 904 00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:48,667 What did I do wrong? 905 00:40:48,667 --> 00:40:51,667 [Christine] The property needs to be paid off. 906 00:40:51,667 --> 00:40:54,233 He's not talking to me about it, so... 907 00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:56,367 I think I'm gonna have to lawyer up. 908 00:40:56,367 --> 00:40:59,000 Such a teenage drama. 909 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,066 You remember that I have that house in Utah? 910 00:41:03,066 --> 00:41:05,467 It's gonna be healthy for Meri to live away. 911 00:41:05,467 --> 00:41:08,900 I feel like the idiot that got left behind. 912 00:41:11,367 --> 00:41:13,567 I'm not your wife anymore. 913 00:41:13,567 --> 00:41:17,300 It's not divorce that sucks, it's marrying the wrong person. 914 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,867 What sucks is marrying the wrong person 915 00:41:20,867 --> 00:41:23,033 and not having the decency to tell her 916 00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:25,233 until 32 years later. 917 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,667 Civil war, total civil war. 918 00:41:30,667 --> 00:41:34,467 -I would like you to meet David. -Ta-da. 919 00:41:34,467 --> 00:41:37,433 [Meri] The guy that Christine is dating is gonna be 920 00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:39,767 at this party. -I think we're meeting 921 00:41:39,767 --> 00:41:41,667 Christine's new boyfriend. 922 00:41:41,667 --> 00:41:45,266 [sighs] Oh, I don't know, I need to find a man. 923 00:41:45,266 --> 00:41:46,367 I'm not gonna take sides. 924 00:41:46,367 --> 00:41:48,367 I'm not gonna be in the ex-wives club. 925 00:41:48,367 --> 00:41:51,000 I'm not in the Kody and Robyn club. 926 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,000 I'm having a hard time feeling like...[sighs] 927 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,233 losing respect for you. 928 00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:01,066 Robyn, I can't even get it straight with you right now. 929 00:42:01,066 --> 00:42:04,734 I keep thinking that you and I could make this work. 930 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,367 -What about you and me? -We have had 931 00:42:06,367 --> 00:42:09,033 so many conversations where I've said, "It's done. 932 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:10,266 We're done. We're not compatible." 933 00:42:10,266 --> 00:42:13,000 I didn't know we were having a fight here. 934 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,567 I wish I wouldn't have ever married her. 935 00:42:15,567 --> 00:42:17,767 Listen, it's confusing from day one. 936 00:42:17,767 --> 00:42:20,066 That's bull[bleep]. 937 00:42:20,066 --> 00:42:22,166 That is so not fair to me. 938 00:42:22,166 --> 00:42:25,367 I would have rather you have told me, Kody, years ago. 939 00:42:25,367 --> 00:42:28,867 Blame yourself if I don't love you, okay?