1 00:00:01,467 --> 00:00:03,867 [Kody] Previously on Sister Wives ... 2 00:00:03,867 --> 00:00:05,433 [woman] I love this property. 3 00:00:05,500 --> 00:00:07,000 It goes clear back. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,400 If Janelle were to move, it would devastate me. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,734 [all laughing] 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,333 So Tony and I are pregnant 7 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,000 -with twins! -With twins! 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Oh my gosh, that is so much work. 9 00:00:19,266 --> 00:00:21,567 [Kody] Meri told me that she's gonna go to 10 00:00:21,567 --> 00:00:23,133 meet with our church leaders 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,066 and basically request a divorce. 12 00:00:26,066 --> 00:00:28,133 It's called a release in our church. 13 00:00:28,767 --> 00:00:30,467 [Meri] I've been living in limbo. 14 00:00:30,467 --> 00:00:32,400 I'm just not gonna keep doing that. 15 00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:36,533 It's been done, and over for years. 16 00:00:39,266 --> 00:00:40,667 He's not talking to me. 17 00:00:40,667 --> 00:00:42,400 I think I'm gonna have to lawyer up. 18 00:00:43,367 --> 00:00:46,100 I am going to move forward and find happiness 19 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:49,266 and joy outside of my club. 20 00:00:49,266 --> 00:00:51,800 'Cause it was my club and I got kicked out of it. 21 00:00:52,867 --> 00:00:55,000 [opening theme music playing] 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 [instrumental music playing] 23 00:01:23,166 --> 00:01:24,467 [Christine] We're going to go to a wedding, 24 00:01:24,467 --> 00:01:26,166 and they don't wanna have anything to do 25 00:01:26,166 --> 00:01:27,133 with the fact that we're public. 26 00:01:27,133 --> 00:01:29,467 So we're just gonna have a good time there. 27 00:01:29,467 --> 00:01:30,533 The bride and groom, 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,867 last time I talked to the bride, 29 00:01:32,867 --> 00:01:34,767 they'd been told that Kody wasn't gonna go. 30 00:01:34,767 --> 00:01:35,600 Same thing with Robyn. 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,667 I don't know if she's even gonna go. 32 00:01:37,667 --> 00:01:41,467 I think the goal is to just be friendly, 33 00:01:41,467 --> 00:01:43,700 not friends, but friendly. 34 00:01:44,300 --> 00:01:45,467 I'm a little nervous. 35 00:01:45,467 --> 00:01:46,467 I am. 36 00:01:46,467 --> 00:01:47,166 I'm a little nervous 37 00:01:47,166 --> 00:01:49,200 just to have us all together. 38 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:55,934 [Kody] I spoke with the bride and groom at one point 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,133 and said, 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,100 I think maybe I better not come. 41 00:02:04,467 --> 00:02:06,333 The reason I suggested I shouldn't go 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,767 is just all the hate that I'm getting 43 00:02:08,767 --> 00:02:10,834 from family members. 44 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:17,233 And mostly just all the [bleep] talk 45 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:18,400 from Christine and Janelle. 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,934 We're all culpable in this. 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,000 I'm out at Cayote Pass and re-measuring things. 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,867 I'm just trying to figure out what's the best configuration. 49 00:02:27,867 --> 00:02:28,867 I don't know the answer. 50 00:02:28,867 --> 00:02:31,734 I don't think Janelle and Meri 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,266 are gonna end up there. 52 00:02:33,266 --> 00:02:35,233 And to be honest with you, 53 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:37,400 it's a source of a lot of heartbreak for me. 54 00:02:41,266 --> 00:02:43,100 [Robyn] The person who's getting married 55 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:46,567 specifically asked Kody and I to come. 56 00:02:46,567 --> 00:02:47,967 It's a little tense. 57 00:02:47,967 --> 00:02:51,500 I am a bit concerned about 58 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,033 Sol and Ari getting sort of caught up in that. 59 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:56,433 I don't want them to get hurt. 60 00:02:58,367 --> 00:03:00,333 [Kody] I don't wanna be there 61 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,767 with people looking at me but not talking to me. 62 00:03:03,767 --> 00:03:06,333 I'm still terribly hurt 63 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,433 by everything that has happened. 64 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:10,767 And so I'm... I'm not in a place 65 00:03:10,767 --> 00:03:12,867 where I'm like, "Oh, I'm just forgiving you guys, 66 00:03:12,867 --> 00:03:14,166 so it's all good now." 67 00:03:14,166 --> 00:03:16,000 I'm just not there yet. 68 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,800 [Christine] The last wedding we went to... gosh! 69 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,467 It would have been Aspyn's and Mitch's. 70 00:03:23,467 --> 00:03:24,667 It was the last wedding. 71 00:03:24,667 --> 00:03:26,634 What a difference, right? 72 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:30,266 Aspyn and Mitch got married over 73 00:03:30,266 --> 00:03:32,033 four years ago. 74 00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:33,000 [chuckles softly] 75 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,033 And gosh, a lot's happened in four years. 76 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:38,767 Yeah, Aspyn and Mitch's wedding, 77 00:03:38,767 --> 00:03:42,367 we were like, we're a team still. 78 00:03:42,367 --> 00:03:43,467 [all cheering] 79 00:03:43,467 --> 00:03:44,967 [Aspyn] I love you and I'm so excited 80 00:03:44,967 --> 00:03:46,800 to have you by my side for rest of my life. 81 00:03:47,467 --> 00:03:49,033 [crowd cheering] 82 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,467 Oh my gosh, the whole day was great. 83 00:03:55,467 --> 00:03:57,533 Kody and I were great. 84 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,233 At that point, I never thought that I'd be leaving. 85 00:04:00,300 --> 00:04:02,333 [Aspyn] He's officially part of the family. 86 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,066 -[man] I know. Congratulations! -Thank you! 87 00:04:05,066 --> 00:04:08,333 It's just so painful to think of where we were at back then, 88 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,367 at least where I thought we were at, I don't know. 89 00:04:10,367 --> 00:04:12,767 I don't even know anymore what's real anymore. 90 00:04:12,767 --> 00:04:16,133 Aspyn got married a month and a half, 91 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,533 six weeks before we moved to Flagstaff. 92 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,600 And that was really our last hurrah. 93 00:04:24,867 --> 00:04:27,333 If I really am honest about how everything was 94 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,367 at Aspyn's wedding, it was wonderful. 95 00:04:29,367 --> 00:04:30,934 Even for Christine and I. 96 00:04:31,567 --> 00:04:33,233 [instrumental music playing] 97 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:42,000 [crowd cheering] 98 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,734 [Christine] We're not the same family 99 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,834 that went to Aspyn and Mitch's wedding. 100 00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:50,367 Or Mykelti's wedding or Maddie's wedding. 101 00:04:50,367 --> 00:04:51,967 We're not the same. 102 00:04:51,967 --> 00:04:55,500 This is a very different... family. 103 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:04,033 Sadly enough, Mykelti and Tony and Avalon can't come. 104 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:05,867 The doctor put her on extreme bed rest 105 00:05:05,867 --> 00:05:07,266 'cause she's pregnant with twins 106 00:05:07,266 --> 00:05:08,867 and she's due in a couple of weeks. 107 00:05:08,867 --> 00:05:11,634 So the doctor's like, "Uh, no, you're not going." 108 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,300 Which is crazy 109 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:16,000 because she's like such a good mediator. 110 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,634 We're all adults, and we've got this. 111 00:05:20,367 --> 00:05:22,000 I think we'll be okay. 112 00:05:24,767 --> 00:05:26,800 [instrumental music playing] 113 00:05:33,066 --> 00:05:34,200 [plane whirring] 114 00:05:36,166 --> 00:05:39,000 [Janelle] I am nervous about the initial interaction, 115 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,934 and then after that, I don't care. 116 00:05:39,934 --> 00:05:42,266 'Cause I can ignore everybody after that. 117 00:05:42,266 --> 00:05:43,266 Yeah, between me and Christine, 118 00:05:43,266 --> 00:05:44,100 it's just hostile. 119 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:52,367 So you can hear the... all the hubbub. 120 00:05:52,367 --> 00:05:53,133 I don't know why I have-- 121 00:05:53,133 --> 00:05:55,300 I'm nervous. I have butterflies. 122 00:05:56,166 --> 00:05:57,967 Yeah. I mean, my kids are upset with their dad, 123 00:05:57,967 --> 00:05:59,100 but they're not gonna make a scene 124 00:05:59,100 --> 00:06:00,066 or do something stupid. 125 00:06:00,066 --> 00:06:02,000 This is just gonna be ignore each other 126 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,600 and pretend like you don't exist basically, I think. 127 00:06:05,367 --> 00:06:08,533 The kids don't need to be involved 128 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,300 in the issues with their parents. 129 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:14,600 [exhales] I wish that things weren't like this. 130 00:06:17,166 --> 00:06:20,900 The last time all four of the adults were together, 131 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,333 Ysabel's graduation party-- 132 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,467 I mean, that's the last time a lot of us were together. 133 00:06:26,467 --> 00:06:27,867 Was Ysabel's graduation party. 134 00:06:27,867 --> 00:06:30,734 That was like over a year and a half ago. 135 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,634 This is the deal, we say a lot of things 136 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:34,767 behind each other's backs. 137 00:06:34,767 --> 00:06:35,834 We just do. 138 00:06:35,834 --> 00:06:39,066 And it's pretty terrible to hear what everybody says 139 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:40,433 about everybody behind their backs. 140 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:42,266 I can't stand 141 00:06:42,266 --> 00:06:44,700 knowing what everybody thinks about me. 142 00:06:45,367 --> 00:06:47,300 I would hope that we can all behave. 143 00:06:54,500 --> 00:06:57,767 So I'm home from the event, and... 144 00:06:57,767 --> 00:07:02,200 it was a little bit bittersweet because... um... 145 00:07:05,266 --> 00:07:06,934 We didn't really talk to each other, 146 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,834 Kody, Robyn. 147 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:10,567 I nodded at Meri. 148 00:07:10,567 --> 00:07:13,467 Christine and I sat together with the kids. 149 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:18,567 Um, Kody and Robyn... sat elsewhere. 150 00:07:18,567 --> 00:07:21,634 Um, you know, I waved at Meri, talked to Meri. 151 00:07:21,700 --> 00:07:25,467 Um, I didn't really talk, but I saw her. 152 00:07:25,467 --> 00:07:27,233 It's just so weird. 153 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:29,133 Being at the wedding was a little bit awkward 154 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,634 just because there are some people in the family 155 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:37,100 that don't really want to interact with me. 156 00:07:37,100 --> 00:07:39,467 Um, I'm... 157 00:07:39,467 --> 00:07:42,767 kind of in the middle of this breakup. 158 00:07:42,767 --> 00:07:46,767 You know, it's just kind of... weird... [laughs] 159 00:07:46,767 --> 00:07:47,934 You know what I mean? 160 00:07:47,934 --> 00:07:51,600 But then at the same time, there's definitely people who 161 00:07:52,867 --> 00:07:55,867 are okay with me being in their presence. 162 00:07:55,867 --> 00:07:58,667 And those are the people that I hang out with. 163 00:07:58,667 --> 00:07:59,634 You know what I mean? 164 00:08:00,967 --> 00:08:04,767 Um, Kody did kind of at least say "Hi" to me 165 00:08:04,767 --> 00:08:07,734 a couple of times in passing, and it's just so weird. 166 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,233 I'm not quite sure... 167 00:08:10,567 --> 00:08:12,266 Look, I'm happy. 168 00:08:12,266 --> 00:08:14,667 It's obviously over. 169 00:08:14,667 --> 00:08:19,533 Um, which is so weird after 30 years or whatever. 170 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,467 And we both have said mean things about each other. 171 00:08:22,467 --> 00:08:25,066 But-- Or whatever 172 00:08:25,066 --> 00:08:27,800 trying to prove justify our case. 173 00:08:29,266 --> 00:08:32,900 But... justify the case for why we feel the way we do. 174 00:08:33,767 --> 00:08:36,467 Robyn and I were put over, kind of in a corner, 175 00:08:36,467 --> 00:08:38,967 probably for our safety. [laughs] 176 00:08:38,967 --> 00:08:41,500 You know, we were kept, it was just in the back. 177 00:08:42,266 --> 00:08:43,767 And Robyn's said, this is just... 178 00:08:43,767 --> 00:08:45,567 This is just not right 179 00:08:45,567 --> 00:08:46,967 that this family isn't together, 180 00:08:46,967 --> 00:08:48,634 that we're not one family. 181 00:08:48,700 --> 00:08:51,467 Some of the family came up and gave me a hug, 182 00:08:51,467 --> 00:08:53,734 and I just embraced them back. 183 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,233 And um, 184 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:58,233 I got an "I love you" from Gabe. 185 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:01,433 And I told him I loved him back. 186 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:02,767 I saw Janelle 187 00:09:02,767 --> 00:09:04,500 and I didn't want to talk to her. 188 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:07,000 It was hard. It was hard. 189 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,467 I was... 190 00:09:10,367 --> 00:09:13,533 Whether I'm right or wrong, it just still feels just deep, 191 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,000 deep wounds of betrayal for me. 192 00:09:16,767 --> 00:09:19,834 There were so many family members 193 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:21,100 that it was just like, 194 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:25,233 "Hi, I love you and let's get away from each other." 195 00:09:26,867 --> 00:09:30,400 I just inserted myself as best as I could into the fun. 196 00:09:31,166 --> 00:09:35,467 It... was awkward enough. 197 00:09:35,467 --> 00:09:36,567 It's just weird, 198 00:09:36,567 --> 00:09:37,867 it was so weird to be at this event 199 00:09:37,867 --> 00:09:41,066 and to act like we didn't even 200 00:09:41,066 --> 00:09:44,333 know each other or were acquaintances. 201 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,333 I saw Christine there as well, but I didn't talk to her. 202 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,667 I did feel like some people were trying to look 203 00:09:49,667 --> 00:09:51,867 like they were having more fun than me. [laughs] 204 00:09:51,867 --> 00:09:56,667 I mean, this is how childish this whole divorce has been. 205 00:09:56,667 --> 00:09:59,266 Such a teenage drama. 206 00:09:59,266 --> 00:10:02,066 I don't like you any more than you like me. 207 00:10:02,066 --> 00:10:04,767 You know it's civil war. 208 00:10:04,767 --> 00:10:06,233 Total civil war. 209 00:10:08,667 --> 00:10:10,867 [Robyn] I felt like there could have been 210 00:10:10,867 --> 00:10:13,233 more positive react-- 211 00:10:13,300 --> 00:10:16,100 interactions there that weren't there. 212 00:10:16,100 --> 00:10:18,233 It's over. It's bittersweet. 213 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:20,233 It kind of hurts, kind of bugs me. 214 00:10:20,967 --> 00:10:22,600 But I wouldn't... 215 00:10:25,767 --> 00:10:27,533 I wouldn't change the trajectory 216 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,467 of where I'm going I guess. 217 00:10:29,467 --> 00:10:31,000 It's just... 218 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:35,967 It's gonna take me a couple of days, I think, to process it. 219 00:10:35,967 --> 00:10:38,700 And I'm glad that these events won't be all the time. 220 00:10:41,767 --> 00:10:43,166 [Kody] Overall, the whole wedding 221 00:10:43,166 --> 00:10:44,967 was just sad for me. 222 00:10:44,967 --> 00:10:47,467 We used to go places as a family, 223 00:10:47,467 --> 00:10:50,467 and now it's like those who were my partners 224 00:10:50,467 --> 00:10:52,734 are now almost like enemies. 225 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,100 It's awkward. 226 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,333 [Christine] I don't know what the solution is. 227 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,767 Separations are harder than I thought. 228 00:10:59,767 --> 00:11:01,900 Divorces are harder than I thought. 229 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,767 [Kody] When Christine moved my stuff out of the house 230 00:11:08,767 --> 00:11:11,000 and she said, I don't want you to stay here anymore, 231 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 It felt like a betrayal, but I wasn't sure 232 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,834 that she was being serious. 233 00:11:14,900 --> 00:11:19,266 And I'm looking back now and feeling how stupid that was of me. 234 00:11:19,266 --> 00:11:20,467 For Christine and I, 235 00:11:20,467 --> 00:11:23,166 I think that if we would have just broken up as friends, 236 00:11:23,166 --> 00:11:25,867 it would have been better for the whole family. 237 00:11:25,867 --> 00:11:29,734 Like, make it so we can get back together another time 238 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,433 instead of polarizing everybody. 239 00:11:35,567 --> 00:11:37,567 I'm dealing with some of my own 240 00:11:37,567 --> 00:11:40,000 just situational depression. 241 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,800 [all exclaiming] 242 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:45,200 And I miss family members. 243 00:11:49,367 --> 00:11:52,000 [amusing instrumental music playing] 244 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,900 [birds chirping] 245 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:06,033 Meri and I have officially broken up, I think. 246 00:12:11,266 --> 00:12:13,567 If I were single and Meri was single, 247 00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:14,767 would I date her? 248 00:12:14,767 --> 00:12:16,634 No, I wouldn't. 249 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:19,333 She is upset that I've dragged this out so long. 250 00:12:19,967 --> 00:12:21,133 I don't blame her. 251 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,166 I'm looking in this triple breakup 252 00:12:26,166 --> 00:12:30,133 like Christine's, then Janelle and now Meri, 253 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,133 I don't want Meri to be in this place 254 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,467 where she's taken this toll, th-this...this direction 255 00:12:35,467 --> 00:12:38,734 that both Christine and Janelle have taken. 256 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,767 "Oh yeah, I need one more enemy right now." 257 00:12:41,767 --> 00:12:43,467 So I'm trying to be in this place with Meri, 258 00:12:43,467 --> 00:12:45,567 where it's like, "Hey, can we just 259 00:12:45,567 --> 00:12:47,433 be friends and move on?" 260 00:12:56,166 --> 00:12:59,333 Janelle and I don't really communicate very much. 261 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,400 To be really honest with you 262 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,934 I don't understand why we can't reconcile. 263 00:13:04,300 --> 00:13:06,233 [Janelle] When we moved to Flagstaff, 264 00:13:06,300 --> 00:13:08,767 Kody found it a lot easier to be away. 265 00:13:08,767 --> 00:13:10,433 Couple of times I had to remind him 266 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:11,967 that he needed to come to my house, 267 00:13:11,967 --> 00:13:13,433 like he in the very beginning, 268 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:14,667 he's like, "Well, I'm really tired." 269 00:13:14,667 --> 00:13:16,100 I'm like, "Well, you can rest at my house 270 00:13:16,100 --> 00:13:18,133 just as much as you can rest at Robyn's house," 271 00:13:18,900 --> 00:13:21,033 it just started to become more separate 272 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:23,333 and more reasons to just be separate. 273 00:13:25,166 --> 00:13:27,133 [instrumental music playing] 274 00:13:32,367 --> 00:13:33,266 [Kody] They never do. 275 00:13:33,266 --> 00:13:35,634 [boy] Well, here's three. Here's three. 276 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:37,200 [Kody] Oh so that's not stairs. 277 00:13:38,166 --> 00:13:40,934 -That's not-- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. -[boy] Uh-oh. 278 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,734 [Robyn] This is your apples. 279 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,166 Your caramelized apples. 280 00:13:44,166 --> 00:13:48,166 [Kody] No, no, no. We can do it upside down the other way, don't we? 281 00:13:48,166 --> 00:13:51,567 [Robyn] There are more relationships that are struggling now. 282 00:13:51,567 --> 00:13:54,166 I've tried several times to reach out to family members 283 00:13:54,166 --> 00:13:56,367 to want to talk and... 284 00:13:56,367 --> 00:13:58,100 and, you know, to the kids and stuff like that. 285 00:13:58,100 --> 00:13:59,767 They're just not ready, I guess 286 00:13:59,767 --> 00:14:01,867 'cause I just don't hear back. 287 00:14:01,867 --> 00:14:04,166 [Kody] Can I...can I go from the middle, 288 00:14:04,166 --> 00:14:05,066 or can I use-- 289 00:14:05,066 --> 00:14:06,967 You can go from the middle and the sides, 290 00:14:06,967 --> 00:14:08,600 but not from the top. 291 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,967 -All right, so you go first 'cause you're the youngest. -So we're stacking over... 292 00:14:10,967 --> 00:14:13,734 [Kody] When I talk to Janelle about our relationship, 293 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,767 she's like I'm just enjoying my time away from you. 294 00:14:17,767 --> 00:14:20,266 Oh mom, I didn't even leave you a chance, did I? 295 00:14:20,266 --> 00:14:23,667 [Robyn] I'm so mad at us for doing what we did to our family. 296 00:14:23,667 --> 00:14:26,734 And you know that we-- That we collectively 297 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,900 messed with something that was working. 298 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:31,767 [Robyn laughing] Ah! 299 00:14:31,767 --> 00:14:34,634 We didn't even get anywhere with that. 300 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:37,266 -That game's lame. All right. -We? What do you mean we? 301 00:14:37,266 --> 00:14:40,333 Well, we, as a family, as a group. 302 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,367 The rest-- Oh all of you got to pick one, 303 00:14:42,367 --> 00:14:44,400 -and that was it. -[indistinct conversation] 304 00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:47,266 My day to day is I've got this family 305 00:14:47,266 --> 00:14:49,867 in my house with my wife, Robyn, 306 00:14:49,867 --> 00:14:51,367 and we have a day to day-- 307 00:14:51,367 --> 00:14:53,767 We have an experience. Every summer we're playing, you know, 308 00:14:53,767 --> 00:14:55,767 the girls are doing music all summer long. 309 00:14:55,767 --> 00:14:58,567 We do stuff like this game right here. 310 00:14:58,567 --> 00:15:01,266 Uh, only It's usually with guitars and music. 311 00:15:01,266 --> 00:15:03,100 Yeah, that was... that was one and done. 312 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:05,000 That's what, how that went. 313 00:15:05,667 --> 00:15:07,834 [indistinct conversation] 314 00:15:07,900 --> 00:15:11,233 [Kody] We have this nice family experience 315 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:12,867 almost perpetually. 316 00:15:12,867 --> 00:15:15,433 And if you get through this one, 317 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:17,500 I won't have any more caramel apples. 318 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:19,433 Why? 319 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:20,667 [Kody] 'Cause I know-- 320 00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:23,734 I'm betting I don't think she can get through this one. 321 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,667 -You see? -Ohh! Wait a second! 322 00:15:26,667 --> 00:15:29,033 That was stuff. 323 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:30,333 -[Kody] Well, -[boy] Be careful. 324 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,333 -Why did you bet that? -Ooh... 325 00:15:31,333 --> 00:15:33,734 'Cause I didn't think she was gonna last. 326 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,000 [Robyn] Solomon and Ariella, don't, really-- 327 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,667 They are not really tracking 328 00:15:38,667 --> 00:15:41,266 what's happening in the family. 329 00:15:41,266 --> 00:15:43,467 We had to go through COVID and it sort of prepped them 330 00:15:43,467 --> 00:15:46,667 for this separation that's happening. 331 00:15:46,667 --> 00:15:48,567 [indistinct conversation] 332 00:15:48,567 --> 00:15:51,233 I'm really struggling with the idea of 333 00:15:51,967 --> 00:15:54,834 whether or not I remind them 334 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:57,266 about their siblings and talk about them 335 00:15:57,266 --> 00:16:00,100 and show them the pictures and stuff like that. 336 00:16:00,100 --> 00:16:03,367 Because that's gonna create the question 337 00:16:03,367 --> 00:16:05,033 of "Where are my siblings? 338 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:06,500 Why aren't they seeing me? 339 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,100 Why didn't they send me a birthday card 340 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:13,834 or something like that? 341 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:15,767 Why aren't they here for my party? 342 00:16:15,767 --> 00:16:18,834 Where are they and why aren't they here?" 343 00:16:22,300 --> 00:16:23,767 Every once in a while they ask, 344 00:16:23,767 --> 00:16:25,767 "Is our whole family coming?" 345 00:16:25,767 --> 00:16:28,767 And I'm just like, "No, not the this time." 346 00:16:28,767 --> 00:16:32,400 [Janelle] With Robyn, there was always a very separateness. 347 00:16:33,166 --> 00:16:34,767 My children, like were scolded 348 00:16:34,767 --> 00:16:37,166 if they would open up Robyn's fridge. 349 00:16:37,166 --> 00:16:39,133 [Meri] When Robyn came in the family, 350 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,367 there was a lot of like 351 00:16:42,367 --> 00:16:44,066 tension and conflict. 352 00:16:44,066 --> 00:16:46,100 You know, just because, like whenever somebody new 353 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:48,467 comes in the family, like it just is. 354 00:16:48,467 --> 00:16:50,767 It's what happens. 355 00:16:50,767 --> 00:16:53,066 [Robyn] Meri across the board was very accepting 356 00:16:53,066 --> 00:16:54,567 of my kids and I. 357 00:16:54,567 --> 00:16:58,433 But the rest of the family really struggled to accept 358 00:16:58,500 --> 00:16:59,867 my kids and I. 359 00:16:59,867 --> 00:17:02,834 All we wanted to do was be a part of this family. 360 00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:04,166 My kids didn't like going over there 361 00:17:04,166 --> 00:17:06,767 because they saw that Robyn 362 00:17:06,767 --> 00:17:10,367 and their dad were a couple and he wasn't in our home. 363 00:17:10,367 --> 00:17:14,000 So they were frustrated at different things. 364 00:17:15,867 --> 00:17:20,166 [Kody] Christine and I were always romantic at her house. 365 00:17:20,166 --> 00:17:22,233 And I think we've forgotten that. 366 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:24,867 My memory about Robyn come in the family 367 00:17:24,867 --> 00:17:27,266 doesn't come with nearly as much angst 368 00:17:27,266 --> 00:17:32,166 and frustration and struggles that we had 30 years ago. 369 00:17:32,166 --> 00:17:33,767 My marriage with Meri 370 00:17:33,767 --> 00:17:35,266 and Janelle coming in the family, 371 00:17:35,266 --> 00:17:36,767 Christine coming in the family. 372 00:17:36,767 --> 00:17:40,100 The experience of that coming together 373 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:43,367 for years was just difficult. 374 00:17:43,367 --> 00:17:45,200 [kids giggling] 375 00:17:47,567 --> 00:17:49,133 [Kody laughing] 376 00:17:51,367 --> 00:17:54,100 I remember Ari Just making a little statement one time, 377 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:55,667 "I don't like Christine." 378 00:17:55,667 --> 00:17:57,333 And I kind of corrected her 379 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,367 to say, you don't know her at this point 380 00:17:59,367 --> 00:18:01,066 well enough to like her or not. 381 00:18:01,066 --> 00:18:04,433 "Well, she left Dad, and I don't like her." 382 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:05,967 Well that showed some loyalty. 383 00:18:05,967 --> 00:18:07,367 And here's the dumb thing. 384 00:18:07,367 --> 00:18:11,066 As I understand it, I tried to correct it. 385 00:18:11,066 --> 00:18:14,367 But she, that same kind of loyalty 386 00:18:14,367 --> 00:18:17,867 is happening amongst others in the family. 387 00:18:17,867 --> 00:18:21,000 Ari's the youngest, of course, she should act like a child. 388 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 [boy] When I say go, I'm gonna just... 389 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,667 [Kody] One experience I had was I was trying to leave the house. 390 00:18:25,667 --> 00:18:27,367 I was headed to Janelle's. 391 00:18:27,367 --> 00:18:29,467 It's getting interesting! 392 00:18:29,467 --> 00:18:31,867 Ariella was melting down. 393 00:18:31,867 --> 00:18:34,467 She grabs my leg and won't let me leave. 394 00:18:34,467 --> 00:18:37,033 And I'm like, "Robyn, I need you to drag her off of me." 395 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:39,533 And she says she's expressing herself. 396 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,166 You're gonna have to take five minutes 397 00:18:41,166 --> 00:18:42,433 and let her do it. 398 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:44,233 But I had to explain to her 399 00:18:44,233 --> 00:18:46,734 there's another wife that needs me, another mommy. 400 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,033 I've got other kids that I need to see me. 401 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:51,266 And she's just dragging along on my legs, screaming, 402 00:18:51,266 --> 00:18:53,667 "Don't leave me, Daddy, Don't leave me." 403 00:18:53,667 --> 00:18:56,166 And I'm like, "God, leave me, this is hard." 404 00:18:56,166 --> 00:18:58,166 My kids were always, like, from the very beginning, 405 00:18:58,166 --> 00:19:00,667 they knew that their dad was not gonna always be there. 406 00:19:00,667 --> 00:19:02,800 I always felt like... 407 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,867 that Kody and Robyn mismanaged 408 00:19:08,867 --> 00:19:10,467 the situation with her children. 409 00:19:10,467 --> 00:19:11,567 He couldn't be away 410 00:19:11,567 --> 00:19:13,467 for more than three or four days. 411 00:19:13,467 --> 00:19:15,667 Because Ari just gets so sad or whatever. 412 00:19:15,667 --> 00:19:19,333 I'm like, I feel like that was poor parenting. 413 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,133 Through all history of the family, 414 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,033 the other kids did it. 415 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:26,066 And they're fine. They're well-adjusted adults. 416 00:19:26,066 --> 00:19:27,667 I think they're fine. 417 00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:28,467 She loves her dad. 418 00:19:28,467 --> 00:19:30,433 She wants to be around her dad. Yes. 419 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:34,100 But did it ever stop Kody from going to another mom's home? 420 00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:35,367 No, it didn't. 421 00:19:35,367 --> 00:19:36,634 I wouldn't have allowed it. 422 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,767 [all exclaims] 423 00:19:41,767 --> 00:19:44,367 -I got it out then it fell. -I'm sorry. I didn't believe in you. 424 00:19:44,367 --> 00:19:46,567 It wasn't you. It was the stack. 425 00:19:46,567 --> 00:19:49,266 [Robyn] I'm going through a lot of mourning. 426 00:19:49,266 --> 00:19:52,367 Loss and grieving of the relationships. 427 00:19:52,367 --> 00:19:54,367 And dealing with some of my own 428 00:19:54,367 --> 00:19:57,467 just situational depression from it. 429 00:19:57,467 --> 00:20:01,400 It's just so sad, and I miss family members. 430 00:20:02,266 --> 00:20:04,567 [Kody] What I'm thinking is with time going on 431 00:20:04,567 --> 00:20:06,567 and just a phone call once in a while, 432 00:20:06,567 --> 00:20:09,066 that these relationships will come back, 433 00:20:09,066 --> 00:20:10,634 and then I'll be like, 434 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:13,233 in full fellowship with my children again. 435 00:20:16,667 --> 00:20:18,567 [Robyn] It's not normal to see Kody smiling lately 436 00:20:18,567 --> 00:20:21,634 'cause of everything that's been going on in the family and stuff. 437 00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:23,233 He's really struggling. 438 00:20:27,367 --> 00:20:29,834 [Robyn] It's just completely devastating 439 00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:31,667 what has happened to us, 440 00:20:31,667 --> 00:20:35,667 devastating, just over the top. 441 00:20:35,667 --> 00:20:39,000 [indistinct conversation] 442 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:44,567 You are set up for an induction. 443 00:20:44,567 --> 00:20:46,400 I'm gonna turn it to a C section. 444 00:20:47,266 --> 00:20:49,133 Are you okay with that? 445 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,567 Losing the chance to be able to hold my child... 446 00:20:52,567 --> 00:20:54,567 first thing right on my chest, 447 00:20:54,567 --> 00:20:57,867 in my arms, is something that I'm having... 448 00:20:57,867 --> 00:20:59,734 I'm just having a hard time with. 449 00:21:01,567 --> 00:21:02,800 [upbeat music playing] 450 00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:10,367 -Ready for this? -Yeah. Ready. 451 00:21:10,367 --> 00:21:11,900 Come in. [chuckles] 452 00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:14,734 Hey, Dr. Bean. 453 00:21:14,734 --> 00:21:16,367 -How are you? -Going good. 454 00:21:16,367 --> 00:21:17,266 Are you excited? 455 00:21:17,266 --> 00:21:19,333 Yes. Getting ready. 456 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,767 [Christine] Dr. Bean was my doctor 457 00:21:20,767 --> 00:21:22,533 when I had Truely. 458 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,667 And we've been friends ever since. 459 00:21:23,667 --> 00:21:27,166 Like, he was the second person I told 460 00:21:27,166 --> 00:21:28,433 we were moving to Vegas 461 00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:29,934 back when we were moving, forever ago. 462 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,166 Anyway, I love the guy. 463 00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:33,467 I'm also getting excited. 464 00:21:33,467 --> 00:21:34,567 Well, of course, you are. 465 00:21:34,567 --> 00:21:36,266 [Christine chuckles] Oh, God. Let me move down here. 466 00:21:36,266 --> 00:21:37,667 You got an easy part. 467 00:21:37,667 --> 00:21:39,934 Where you just get to enjoy the view. 468 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000 [Christine] Yes, so true. 469 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,066 All right. I think you are pregnant 470 00:21:44,066 --> 00:21:45,567 Ugh, what gave it away? 471 00:21:45,567 --> 00:21:46,767 I was kind of hoping to hide it. 472 00:21:46,767 --> 00:21:47,867 -Yeah? -Yeah. 473 00:21:47,867 --> 00:21:49,133 You can't hide this. 474 00:21:50,066 --> 00:21:51,233 Do you know how many? 475 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:52,634 [Christine] 53, 53. 476 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:54,000 Pretty close. 52. 477 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,166 [Christine] You're measuring 52 weeks. 478 00:21:55,166 --> 00:21:56,867 You're only how many weeks? 479 00:21:56,867 --> 00:21:57,967 Thirty-seven. 480 00:21:57,967 --> 00:22:01,467 52 weeks is just the size of her. 481 00:22:01,467 --> 00:22:02,634 What we're really looking for 482 00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:04,033 and what the real concern is, 483 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,133 is how big are the babies getting 484 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,066 for them to be born naturally, 485 00:22:08,066 --> 00:22:09,867 'cause she wants a natural birth. 486 00:22:09,867 --> 00:22:11,367 All right. We're going to take a-- Tell you what... 487 00:22:11,367 --> 00:22:12,367 I'm gonna look at the babies first. 488 00:22:12,367 --> 00:22:14,867 Just make sure of their position. 489 00:22:14,867 --> 00:22:16,800 Yep, there's that. 490 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,567 [Christine gasps] Oh, we can see 'em. 491 00:22:19,567 --> 00:22:20,567 Can we see them? 492 00:22:20,567 --> 00:22:21,867 Yeah, that's the cranium. 493 00:22:21,867 --> 00:22:23,367 Yep. [indistinct conversation] 494 00:22:23,367 --> 00:22:25,433 [Christine] Oh, my gosh. 495 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:26,467 So they're both feet down. 496 00:22:26,467 --> 00:22:27,967 -Breech? -Yep. Okay. 497 00:22:27,967 --> 00:22:29,133 [Christine] Oh, they're feet down. 498 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,100 That's what breach means. 499 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:30,967 [Dr. Bean] Yep. 500 00:22:30,967 --> 00:22:33,467 Unfortunately, I can't turn this baby. 501 00:22:33,467 --> 00:22:34,867 So, we just gotta see what happens. 502 00:22:34,867 --> 00:22:35,867 -Okay? -Okay. 503 00:22:35,867 --> 00:22:39,433 So, next week you are set up for an induction 504 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,400 I'm gonna turn it to a C section. 505 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,567 But, if this baby's head goes down... 506 00:22:45,567 --> 00:22:46,734 [Mykelti] In the next six days... 507 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,066 ...in the next six days... 508 00:22:48,066 --> 00:22:49,367 [Christine] Is there anything that she can do 509 00:22:49,367 --> 00:22:51,233 to help the baby's head go down? 510 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:52,834 You know, when you're... 511 00:22:52,900 --> 00:22:54,266 When you just have a singleton, 512 00:22:54,266 --> 00:22:55,967 there are some things that can be done 513 00:22:55,967 --> 00:22:57,967 and there's some things we can do. 514 00:22:57,967 --> 00:23:00,433 With twins. It's just... they're just not. 515 00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:01,467 There's just not enough room and stuff. 516 00:23:01,467 --> 00:23:02,567 There's just not enough room. 517 00:23:02,567 --> 00:23:04,100 I know Mykelti's trying very hard 518 00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:05,867 to have these vaginally, 519 00:23:05,867 --> 00:23:07,867 and I I'm all for that 520 00:23:07,867 --> 00:23:09,266 because I've had a C-section 521 00:23:09,266 --> 00:23:13,000 and the recovery, is very hard, from it. 522 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,133 The vaginal birth is better. 523 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,166 At home or without the painkillers, 524 00:23:17,166 --> 00:23:19,567 I know it sounds hard, 525 00:23:19,567 --> 00:23:22,266 but the recovery is ten times easier. 526 00:23:22,266 --> 00:23:23,300 When you have C-Section, 527 00:23:23,300 --> 00:23:25,767 I mean, they've basically cut open your abdomen, 528 00:23:25,767 --> 00:23:27,166 so they've cut all those muscles. 529 00:23:27,166 --> 00:23:29,166 So think about any time you turn in bed 530 00:23:29,166 --> 00:23:30,834 or you try to sit up, 531 00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:32,367 or any kind of movement, 532 00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:35,000 it's really miserable. 533 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,367 So, are you okay with that? 534 00:23:37,367 --> 00:23:39,000 -I'll get over it. --I'm sorry. 535 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,767 Better a scar than a scarred kid. 536 00:23:40,767 --> 00:23:42,667 Yeah. That's a good way to embrace it. 537 00:23:42,667 --> 00:23:46,166 Losing the chance to be able to hold my child... 538 00:23:46,166 --> 00:23:48,266 first thing right on my chest, 539 00:23:48,266 --> 00:23:51,667 in my arms, is something that I'm having... 540 00:23:51,667 --> 00:23:53,367 I'm just having a hard time with. 541 00:23:53,367 --> 00:23:54,867 I don't know if it's a cultural thing. 542 00:23:54,867 --> 00:23:57,133 I don't know if it's a polygamous thing. I don't really know. 543 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,166 But I was always raised 544 00:23:58,166 --> 00:23:59,467 that natural home births 545 00:23:59,467 --> 00:24:00,400 were the best way to go. 546 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,567 I loved the recovery of the home birth. 547 00:24:02,567 --> 00:24:03,433 It was wonderful. 548 00:24:03,433 --> 00:24:06,233 Also, an epidural, though, kicks butt. 549 00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:08,266 So, you know, it's a tough call. 550 00:24:08,266 --> 00:24:10,767 Mykelti likes as natural as possible, 551 00:24:10,767 --> 00:24:12,667 and the girl is as tough as it gets. 552 00:24:12,667 --> 00:24:14,634 We can't change reality, 553 00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:17,767 but we can change what our expectations are, okay? 554 00:24:17,767 --> 00:24:19,567 I'll take the safer option. 555 00:24:19,567 --> 00:24:20,467 [Dr. Bean] Okay. Sounds good. 556 00:24:20,467 --> 00:24:21,433 It is what it is. 557 00:24:21,433 --> 00:24:23,934 And I'd rather my kids be safe and healthy, 558 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,533 and me be safe and healthy, 559 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,066 versus the possibility of something wrong happening. 560 00:24:30,066 --> 00:24:32,033 I prefer home births 561 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,266 to hospital births. 562 00:24:33,266 --> 00:24:35,467 Most births are just natural. 563 00:24:35,467 --> 00:24:37,233 It's a very natural experience. 564 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,133 Birthing is very natural. 565 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,166 [Christine] So, we can't be in there 566 00:24:40,166 --> 00:24:41,533 if it's a C-section, 567 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,533 [Dr. Bean] No. 568 00:24:42,533 --> 00:24:43,567 [Christine] So, we'll be like in the... 569 00:24:43,567 --> 00:24:45,467 -waiting room, right? -[Dr. Bean] Yeah. 570 00:24:45,467 --> 00:24:48,567 Every extra person that's in the OR. 571 00:24:48,567 --> 00:24:50,834 It's an... it's an infection risk. 572 00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:54,233 And so that's why they don't let... 573 00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:55,900 You, know, you're favorite mother. 574 00:24:56,767 --> 00:24:59,133 -It's interesting. -[Christine] Awkward, 575 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,567 What? Not that it wasn't awkward during your delivery 576 00:25:02,567 --> 00:25:04,767 when questions were being asked about... 577 00:25:04,767 --> 00:25:06,166 [Christine] Oh, yeah, that was funny. 578 00:25:06,166 --> 00:25:07,433 Yeah. 579 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:09,266 When I was in labor with Truely, 580 00:25:09,266 --> 00:25:10,467 I was sitting there in the hospital 581 00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:12,233 and Kody and Dr. Bean were talking 582 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,934 about Meri's infertility issues... 583 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,467 So, who would you recommend for a fertility doctor? 584 00:25:17,467 --> 00:25:18,500 What do you mean? 585 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:21,266 Um, if we wanted to do in vitro fertilization. 586 00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:22,767 [Dr. Bean speaking] 587 00:25:22,767 --> 00:25:24,867 'Cause I've got a wife who only has one. 588 00:25:24,867 --> 00:25:27,667 Dr. Bean knew we're a polygamist family already. 589 00:25:27,667 --> 00:25:28,567 We've been up front. 590 00:25:28,567 --> 00:25:29,867 We've been open with him. 591 00:25:29,867 --> 00:25:31,934 He knew everything. 592 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,133 While I'm here, like in labor, it's kind of classy... 593 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,467 Yeah, that's kind of weird. 594 00:25:35,467 --> 00:25:37,433 Talking about the other wife's fertility. 595 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:39,233 -[Dr. Bean] Yeah -Meri and Christine-- 596 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:40,266 I was looking at you like, 597 00:25:40,266 --> 00:25:41,200 she doesn't have any problem. 598 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,467 Yeah, Meri and Christine have always had 599 00:25:42,467 --> 00:25:43,834 a really close relationship... 600 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:45,667 He just thought it was really funny, too. 601 00:25:45,667 --> 00:25:47,467 That here I am in labor, 602 00:25:47,467 --> 00:25:51,333 talking about Meri's infertility stuff with, with... 603 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,867 but I mean, whenever you're gonna get an opportunity 604 00:25:53,867 --> 00:25:55,433 to talk to somebody, you know. 605 00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:57,033 So, it was... it was fine. 606 00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:57,967 It was great. 607 00:25:57,967 --> 00:25:59,533 Hopefully, we'll see you in six days. 608 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,967 -Hopefully, not sooner. -I know. 609 00:26:00,967 --> 00:26:01,867 Six days. 610 00:26:01,867 --> 00:26:03,634 -For once I agree. -Me too. 611 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:04,533 -Okay, come. -Please. 612 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,767 Thank you. 613 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,767 I'm hoping that everything goes right, 614 00:26:08,767 --> 00:26:09,734 everything's good. 615 00:26:09,734 --> 00:26:11,533 I don't need to see Dr. Bean and tell that. 616 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,100 Because that means that everything's going right, 617 00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:14,900 if I don't have to see my doctor. 618 00:26:17,367 --> 00:26:18,433 The next time you see me, 619 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:19,867 I won't be pregnant. 620 00:26:19,867 --> 00:26:20,934 Weird. 621 00:26:20,934 --> 00:26:23,166 [Christine] Those doors are so hard to see. 622 00:26:23,166 --> 00:26:26,166 'Cause you know you're the child is on the other side. 623 00:26:26,166 --> 00:26:30,500 And there's nothing you can do to help them. 624 00:26:31,967 --> 00:26:33,400 [soft music playing] 625 00:26:39,767 --> 00:26:41,433 Today is the day before 626 00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:42,567 the twins are going to be born, 627 00:26:42,567 --> 00:26:44,000 they could be born tomorrow. 628 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,133 Isn't it so weird you can schedule 629 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,367 a day for a birth? 630 00:26:47,367 --> 00:26:49,233 I'm excited for these little babies 631 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:51,033 to come, really excited. 632 00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:53,066 This is a really big deal to me, 633 00:26:53,066 --> 00:26:56,033 and I'm excited to be there and be Grandma. 634 00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:58,233 And, um... 635 00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:00,233 just support them through this. 636 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:01,767 How are you feeling there? 637 00:27:01,767 --> 00:27:02,867 I'm good. 638 00:27:02,867 --> 00:27:04,266 I'm excited. I'm ready. 639 00:27:04,266 --> 00:27:07,100 I'm hoping Christine is cool and easy about this, too. 640 00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:08,467 I don't want any drama. 641 00:27:08,467 --> 00:27:10,333 I don't want any stress. 642 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,433 I mean, I care about Christine. 643 00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,367 I want her to be happy 644 00:27:14,367 --> 00:27:16,166 and, um, 645 00:27:16,166 --> 00:27:17,634 and I, 646 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:19,934 I respect and honor her position 647 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,133 as Mykelti's mother. 648 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,367 I'm ready to be done. 649 00:27:23,367 --> 00:27:24,500 -Whoop whoop! -Forever. 650 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:25,834 This is the last time we're gonna see you pregnant. 651 00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:27,233 Yes. This is t he last time I will ever, 652 00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:29,333 hopefully, knock on wood, 653 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,133 but this is the last time 654 00:27:30,133 --> 00:27:31,667 I will ever be pregnant again. 655 00:27:31,667 --> 00:27:33,433 I love the idea of, in the future, 656 00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:34,934 maybe having more kids, 657 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,567 but they will not come out of my body. 658 00:27:36,567 --> 00:27:38,266 Pregnancy is miserable. 659 00:27:38,266 --> 00:27:40,333 It is literally awful. 660 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,634 I've come to terms with it. 661 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:43,166 Like I'm gonna get over the fact 662 00:27:43,166 --> 00:27:45,634 that I can't have them vaginally, 663 00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:47,767 but I'm not too happy about it. 664 00:27:47,767 --> 00:27:49,867 But you'll be able to see it, too. We were saying. 665 00:27:49,867 --> 00:27:51,667 They set the cloth here, though, right? 666 00:27:51,667 --> 00:27:56,066 So, I'll have a like a top, like a a curtain. 667 00:27:56,066 --> 00:27:58,266 I'll have a curtain over, in front of my face 668 00:27:58,266 --> 00:27:59,567 so I won't be able to see them 669 00:27:59,567 --> 00:28:00,934 actually do the procedure. 670 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,567 But Dr. Bean did say 671 00:28:02,567 --> 00:28:05,266 that he would put a mirror down there. 672 00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:07,567 So if I wanted to, I could. 673 00:28:07,567 --> 00:28:08,567 [Aspyn] Why? 674 00:28:08,567 --> 00:28:09,367 Why not? 675 00:28:09,367 --> 00:28:12,367 Sign me up for that, too. So cool. 676 00:28:12,367 --> 00:28:14,767 I want to see it, because if I can't feel it, 677 00:28:14,767 --> 00:28:16,867 I want to at least know what's going on. 678 00:28:16,867 --> 00:28:18,667 We have to, like cut layers by layers, too. 679 00:28:18,667 --> 00:28:20,133 'Cause they've got to cut the muscle 680 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,767 and the... like the skin, 681 00:28:21,767 --> 00:28:23,467 and then they've got to cut the uterine wall. 682 00:28:23,467 --> 00:28:26,333 And I'm just... It's just all so cool. 683 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,266 Cool and gruesome. 684 00:28:28,266 --> 00:28:31,000 I wonder how Avalon is gonna react. 685 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,634 She's going to have siblings, plural. 686 00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:35,767 It would be great, and no one's ever left out 687 00:28:35,767 --> 00:28:37,266 with three kids. 688 00:28:37,266 --> 00:28:38,133 No one's ever left out. 689 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,100 There's always someone. 690 00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:39,967 Should be left out a lot, they're twins, 691 00:28:39,967 --> 00:28:41,367 they're gonna stick together. 692 00:28:41,367 --> 00:28:43,033 -[Avalon laughing] -[Tony] Absolutely. 693 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:46,867 I am really excited about tomorrow. 694 00:28:46,867 --> 00:28:47,767 The next time you see me, 695 00:28:47,767 --> 00:28:49,033 I won't be pregnant. 696 00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:50,367 Weird. 697 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,066 [Robyn] Mykelti has her C-section scheduled. 698 00:28:58,066 --> 00:28:59,767 I loaded up my car 699 00:28:59,767 --> 00:29:03,000 and I drove there and on the way, 700 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,900 I picked up Maria, Tony's mom, in St. George. 701 00:29:10,266 --> 00:29:11,867 Tony and Mykelti, you know 702 00:29:11,867 --> 00:29:13,166 kind of at the beginning 703 00:29:13,166 --> 00:29:15,834 of finding out that they are pregnant, said, 704 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,133 "We want you at this birth." 705 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,533 First, Christine is concerned. 706 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,066 I just made a decision very early on 707 00:29:23,066 --> 00:29:25,567 that I was going to put aside any of my hurt, 708 00:29:25,567 --> 00:29:27,634 my sadness or my feelings of betrayal 709 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:30,400 and just... That's between Christine and I. 710 00:29:34,367 --> 00:29:35,834 I am going to say something here 711 00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:37,667 because Mykelti is getting really beat up for this. 712 00:29:37,667 --> 00:29:40,133 But, you know, Mykelti has 713 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,367 a good relationship with Robyn. 714 00:29:41,367 --> 00:29:44,367 Robyn came at a very important time for Mykelti. 715 00:29:44,367 --> 00:29:45,967 And it was very valuable 716 00:29:45,967 --> 00:29:48,367 for Mykelti as a teenage girl. 717 00:29:48,367 --> 00:29:49,867 And I don't think any of the kids 718 00:29:49,867 --> 00:29:53,333 should be denied 719 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,100 or looked down on for having a relationship 720 00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:56,066 with Kody and Robyn. 721 00:30:00,667 --> 00:30:02,433 [Kody] Mykelti and Robyn had a really, 722 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:04,433 really special experience together. 723 00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:06,567 Um, and what that did is 724 00:30:06,567 --> 00:30:07,867 is that special experience 725 00:30:07,867 --> 00:30:09,667 between Mykelti and Robyn 726 00:30:09,667 --> 00:30:12,867 actually improved the relationship 727 00:30:12,867 --> 00:30:15,634 that Christine and I had with Mykelti. 728 00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:17,767 Hey, there. 729 00:30:17,767 --> 00:30:19,333 [chuckling] 730 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,934 [Mykelti] When Robyn first joined the family, 731 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,767 I was trying to figure out who I was 732 00:30:22,767 --> 00:30:25,567 and she made me feel special, 733 00:30:25,567 --> 00:30:27,400 and she made me feel seen. 734 00:30:30,967 --> 00:30:32,233 Robyn was there for me 735 00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:33,066 when I needed somebody. 736 00:30:33,066 --> 00:30:33,967 She was there for me 737 00:30:33,967 --> 00:30:34,934 when I needed somebody 738 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,066 to hear me, to love me. 739 00:30:37,066 --> 00:30:40,800 Robyn gave me a chance to be heard. 740 00:30:45,166 --> 00:30:46,367 [Christine] I don't think I remember 741 00:30:46,367 --> 00:30:47,066 when Mykelti told me 742 00:30:47,066 --> 00:30:48,166 that Robyn would be there, 743 00:30:48,166 --> 00:30:50,100 I just always knew Robyn would be there. 744 00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:53,967 I don't know what there will be for us to do, 745 00:30:53,967 --> 00:30:56,400 except to wait in the waiting room together. 746 00:30:58,667 --> 00:31:00,367 There's a lot of pain there. 747 00:31:00,367 --> 00:31:03,567 I can't predict somebody else's choices or actions, 748 00:31:03,567 --> 00:31:07,100 but for me, my plan is to play nice. 749 00:31:12,567 --> 00:31:14,233 [Mykelti] I'm ready to give birth. 750 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:15,667 I'm feeling good. I feel like 751 00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:18,166 I didn't sleep at all last night. 752 00:31:18,166 --> 00:31:19,867 Anticipation of the next day just... 753 00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:21,600 sleep's not gonna happen. 754 00:31:23,567 --> 00:31:26,967 [Robyn] They came in, they kind of prepped Mykelti, talked to her, 755 00:31:26,967 --> 00:31:29,533 and then they put Tony in this, like... 756 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,934 [chuckles] 757 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,266 It looked like a beekeeper suit. 758 00:31:33,266 --> 00:31:35,233 It's from, like, head to toe. 759 00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:36,266 Tony's nervous. 760 00:31:36,266 --> 00:31:37,667 He's really nervous. 761 00:31:37,667 --> 00:31:39,834 They put him in a suit. 762 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:44,233 [Robyn] You know, we gave Mykelti 763 00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:46,867 our hugs and kisses and... 764 00:31:46,867 --> 00:31:48,900 told her we loved her, and... 765 00:31:49,467 --> 00:31:51,133 and she was wheeled away. 766 00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:54,000 It's hard. 767 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,166 It's really hard, emotionally to have your kids have 768 00:31:57,166 --> 00:31:58,867 any kind of procedure like that. 769 00:31:58,867 --> 00:32:00,100 It was really difficult. 770 00:32:03,967 --> 00:32:05,166 [Mykelti] The entire pregnancy, 771 00:32:05,166 --> 00:32:06,667 my heart rate never spiked. 772 00:32:06,667 --> 00:32:09,867 I never had issues with blood pressure at all. 773 00:32:09,867 --> 00:32:11,667 But as soon as I was in there, 774 00:32:11,667 --> 00:32:15,166 getting my... getting the numbing for the epidural 775 00:32:15,166 --> 00:32:15,900 and then getting the epidural, 776 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:17,467 my heart rate started spiking 777 00:32:17,467 --> 00:32:18,867 and my blood pressure started going up 778 00:32:18,867 --> 00:32:21,500 and I started to go into a panic. 779 00:32:31,767 --> 00:32:33,667 [Christine] Those doors are so hard to see 780 00:32:33,667 --> 00:32:35,266 'cause you know your child 781 00:32:35,266 --> 00:32:37,133 is on the other side 782 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,166 and there's nothing you can do 783 00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:41,433 to help them. 784 00:32:42,266 --> 00:32:45,467 [Mykelti] I am extremely upset 785 00:32:45,467 --> 00:32:47,667 that I can't have Tony 786 00:32:47,667 --> 00:32:49,266 in the operating room with me 787 00:32:49,266 --> 00:32:51,533 while I get the epidural. 788 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,533 The doctors and the nurses in the room 789 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,867 were like, something's going on. 790 00:32:55,867 --> 00:32:56,867 What's wrong? 791 00:32:56,867 --> 00:32:58,467 My body was shaking 792 00:32:58,467 --> 00:33:00,834 just 'cause I was... just anxiety. 793 00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:02,467 There's... the only solution 794 00:33:02,467 --> 00:33:04,300 is get me my husband, 795 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,033 As soon as Tony entered the room, though, 796 00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:11,266 he was finally able to come in, 797 00:33:11,266 --> 00:33:13,100 and immediately I started to calm down. 798 00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,967 I started to feel better 'cause I had him there. 799 00:33:14,967 --> 00:33:18,166 You just trust these doctors so much 800 00:33:18,166 --> 00:33:20,266 that everything's going to be okay. 801 00:33:20,266 --> 00:33:22,533 I was really glad Aspyn was there. 802 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,033 And Robyn was there in the room, too. 803 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:26,467 So the three of us just sat and waited. 804 00:33:26,467 --> 00:33:28,934 For it to be done. 805 00:33:33,367 --> 00:33:37,166 It's... it's just surprising, a little scary, 806 00:33:37,166 --> 00:33:39,567 what it takes to get those babies out of her. 807 00:33:39,567 --> 00:33:41,266 I was really happy 808 00:33:41,266 --> 00:33:42,300 I could be there during the operation, 809 00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:44,967 because it... I know it means the world to her 810 00:33:44,967 --> 00:33:46,967 and I wanted to be there. 811 00:33:46,967 --> 00:33:49,000 Seeing everything, really cool, 812 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,567 being there for my wife, 813 00:33:50,567 --> 00:33:52,266 super, super important. 814 00:33:52,266 --> 00:33:54,934 Having kids come back, best part. 815 00:33:59,166 --> 00:34:01,066 [Mykelti] When I have Archer in my arms, I just... 816 00:34:01,066 --> 00:34:03,734 just instantly start calming down 817 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,433 and everything is fine. 818 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:07,033 And then Ace comes out, 819 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:08,233 they wrap him up a little bit 820 00:34:08,233 --> 00:34:09,266 and then they bring him over in my other arm. 821 00:34:09,266 --> 00:34:11,567 I'm able to hold him, and at that point, 822 00:34:11,567 --> 00:34:12,767 I'm like, this is great. 823 00:34:12,767 --> 00:34:14,800 I'm happy. This is awesome. Yes! 824 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:19,533 I could hear the voices of my moms' 825 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,133 and Aspyn in the other room. 826 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,867 It was just like this... 827 00:34:21,867 --> 00:34:24,100 an incredible experience. 828 00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:25,467 I had my boys. 829 00:34:25,467 --> 00:34:26,767 They were safe. 830 00:34:26,767 --> 00:34:28,834 They were here, they were healthy. 831 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,467 And it was just this, just... 832 00:34:31,467 --> 00:34:35,266 over joyous experience of... 833 00:34:35,266 --> 00:34:36,734 everything's fine. 834 00:34:40,567 --> 00:34:42,100 [Kody] Robyn and Christine are together. 835 00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:43,867 I don't know how much they're interacting. 836 00:34:43,867 --> 00:34:46,000 I don't know what the experience would be like. 837 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,266 They're not here for each other. 838 00:34:47,266 --> 00:34:48,166 They're not here for anybody else. 839 00:34:48,166 --> 00:34:49,266 They're here for me. 840 00:34:49,266 --> 00:34:51,033 So it's very honoring. 841 00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:53,567 Humbling and super special, 842 00:34:53,567 --> 00:34:56,634 because this is one of the most incredible 843 00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:58,567 and memorable moments of my life. 844 00:34:58,567 --> 00:35:00,166 And to be able to share it with my moms, 845 00:35:00,166 --> 00:35:02,767 I think is really important to me. 846 00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:04,533 [Robyn] I was handed Archer first, 847 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,166 and it was just love at first sight. 848 00:35:07,166 --> 00:35:08,100 [chuckles] 849 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:10,166 The same time Christine was holding Ace. 850 00:35:10,166 --> 00:35:12,333 And so it was kind of like, we were, 851 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,834 you know, holding... 852 00:35:22,266 --> 00:35:23,233 [exhales] 853 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,233 We're just holding our grandbabies together. 854 00:35:28,467 --> 00:35:31,567 I just wish it was under different circumstances. 855 00:35:31,567 --> 00:35:33,700 As far as Christine and I are concerned, 856 00:35:35,667 --> 00:35:39,700 and it was kind of sweet 'cause... [sniffs] 857 00:35:40,767 --> 00:35:42,133 [sighs] 858 00:35:43,667 --> 00:35:45,634 For a moment, I could just forget all that. 859 00:35:45,700 --> 00:35:46,700 [breathes heavily] 860 00:35:48,467 --> 00:35:50,200 [soft music playing] 861 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,667 Tony and Mykelti want me there 862 00:36:00,667 --> 00:36:02,266 and they want Christine there. 863 00:36:02,266 --> 00:36:06,266 And Tony's mother is really close, too. 864 00:36:06,266 --> 00:36:09,333 She's at home watching Avalon. 865 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,100 She'll be coming in later, too. 866 00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:15,834 What Tony and Mykelti wants is what's important. 867 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:16,767 [Mykelti] My mom spent last night 868 00:36:16,767 --> 00:36:17,767 with us in the hospital 869 00:36:17,767 --> 00:36:19,967 to help me with the twins through the night. 870 00:36:19,967 --> 00:36:21,467 So now she's going to go home 871 00:36:21,467 --> 00:36:23,433 and hang out and be at home. 872 00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:24,133 And Robyn's gonna spend 873 00:36:24,133 --> 00:36:25,934 the night with us at home 874 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,767 to help us with the twins again through the night. 875 00:36:27,767 --> 00:36:30,367 Avalon's there. Tony's mom, Maria is there, 876 00:36:30,367 --> 00:36:31,367 and then that's it. 877 00:36:31,367 --> 00:36:33,467 We're just gonna keep it kind of a small house. 878 00:36:33,467 --> 00:36:34,867 As we go and introduce 879 00:36:34,867 --> 00:36:38,000 the boys to their sister. 880 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,900 [indistinct conversations] 881 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:42,667 Hey, buddy. 882 00:36:42,667 --> 00:36:45,000 Avalon, do you wanna meet your brothers? 883 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,066 Do you want to meet your brothers? 884 00:36:47,066 --> 00:36:48,233 [gasps] 885 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,867 Look at the baby. 886 00:36:53,867 --> 00:36:55,767 [Tony] Whoa! [chuckles nervously] 887 00:36:55,767 --> 00:36:57,667 So soft. 888 00:36:57,667 --> 00:36:59,133 [giggling] 889 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,667 Jeez, she went straight for his eye. 890 00:37:01,667 --> 00:37:03,333 She's a tough kid. 891 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,166 She rough houses a lot. 892 00:37:05,166 --> 00:37:07,333 And so, these are very fragile babies, 893 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,166 like, I was absolutely nervous 894 00:37:09,166 --> 00:37:10,567 about her hurting one of them. 895 00:37:10,567 --> 00:37:13,066 Avalon look, there's another baby over here. 896 00:37:13,066 --> 00:37:16,033 [Avalon fussing] 897 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:18,367 [Robyn] Avalon... 898 00:37:18,367 --> 00:37:21,233 looks stressed out. 899 00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:22,266 Do you need his hat off? 900 00:37:22,266 --> 00:37:24,100 [Avalon fussing] 901 00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:25,367 Good job. 902 00:37:25,367 --> 00:37:28,000 She finally realized. 903 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,066 These aren't just babies, and they're not toys. 904 00:37:31,066 --> 00:37:36,100 They're actual humans, and they belong to Mommy and Daddy. 905 00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:39,367 I think it just, it was honestly heartbreaking. 906 00:37:39,367 --> 00:37:42,066 You got him? You got him? Okay? 907 00:37:42,066 --> 00:37:43,166 -[Tony] You sure? -Thank you. 908 00:37:43,166 --> 00:37:44,867 [Tony] Okay, okay here. 909 00:37:44,867 --> 00:37:47,033 You're not ready. 910 00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:48,667 You're not ready. 911 00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:51,767 I mean, I guess, you know, having a plural family, and we 912 00:37:51,767 --> 00:37:54,333 at that time, all lived together. 913 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,734 Um, it was very different 914 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,734 than having two parents and one child. 915 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,100 [Kody] I had three wives before I had any children. 916 00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:03,033 We sort of did... 917 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:04,800 all pitch in with the baby. 918 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,233 [Avalon crying] 919 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:09,767 [Robyn] It's a big change. 920 00:38:09,767 --> 00:38:12,767 [Kody] I don't, personally recall... 921 00:38:12,767 --> 00:38:14,734 any of my children 922 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,367 being specifically... 923 00:38:16,367 --> 00:38:19,667 weirded out by a new baby, 924 00:38:19,667 --> 00:38:20,567 [Mykelti] Come cuddle. 925 00:38:20,567 --> 00:38:21,467 [Avalon fussing] 926 00:38:21,467 --> 00:38:22,667 [Aspyn] This is when she's... 927 00:38:22,667 --> 00:38:25,867 She's understanding now a little bit. 928 00:38:25,867 --> 00:38:28,967 Here she's excluded. She just left. 929 00:38:28,967 --> 00:38:33,333 I don't know if our kids really had time 930 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,734 to, like, grow up to be a toddler, 931 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,133 to be like, "Wait a second. 932 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,100 Who is this other child?" 933 00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:38,467 There's just always another one coming. 934 00:38:38,467 --> 00:38:39,667 [chuckles] 935 00:38:39,667 --> 00:38:41,834 There was some weird stuff that happened. 936 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:43,467 I mean, like, I had my first child 937 00:38:43,467 --> 00:38:45,934 and there was a mother that was jealous. 938 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,900 Come here, Logan. 939 00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:48,433 -[Christine] Meri, call him. -Come here. 940 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:49,734 [Kody] It was Christine who got jealous 941 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,934 when Logan was born. 942 00:38:51,567 --> 00:38:54,000 Logan was absolutely lovely. 943 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,367 What I was going through was 944 00:38:55,367 --> 00:38:57,967 the first year of being in plural marriage. 945 00:38:57,967 --> 00:38:59,634 It was so hard. 946 00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:02,600 I felt like I lost my identity completely. 947 00:39:04,166 --> 00:39:06,367 [Kody] Having all those kids that young, 948 00:39:06,367 --> 00:39:07,767 we were all involved. 949 00:39:07,767 --> 00:39:09,667 It was supposed to be 950 00:39:09,667 --> 00:39:11,767 um, this... 951 00:39:11,767 --> 00:39:14,667 extremely benevolent experience, 952 00:39:14,667 --> 00:39:16,266 and now that it's all come apart for me, 953 00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:18,333 I'm just going, was it... 954 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,500 was it just suppressed jealousy? 955 00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:25,266 Or was it sometimes suppressed rage? 956 00:39:25,266 --> 00:39:26,433 I don't know. 957 00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:27,767 All right, Tony, Let's go upstairs. 958 00:39:27,767 --> 00:39:29,433 Here, Aspyn. Will you take him? 959 00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:30,433 Let's go. 960 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:31,467 This is Archer. 961 00:39:31,467 --> 00:39:32,467 [Tony] Protect the law of Archer's church. 962 00:39:32,467 --> 00:39:33,867 Oh, I just shocked him. 963 00:39:33,867 --> 00:39:34,867 Sorry, baby. 964 00:39:34,867 --> 00:39:37,567 [Archer crying] 965 00:39:37,567 --> 00:39:38,867 [cooing] 966 00:39:38,867 --> 00:39:41,867 [Christine] They look nothing alike at all. 967 00:39:41,867 --> 00:39:43,266 They are fraternal twins, 968 00:39:43,266 --> 00:39:44,667 which means they are not identical. 969 00:39:44,667 --> 00:39:47,367 They don't look alike at all. 970 00:39:47,367 --> 00:39:49,233 And they look nothing like Avalon. 971 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,367 [Mykelti] No, stop. Let go. 972 00:39:52,367 --> 00:39:53,767 -God, don't do that. -[Tony] Okay. 973 00:39:53,767 --> 00:39:54,967 [Mykelti] Robyn's gonna stay with us 974 00:39:54,967 --> 00:39:55,934 for the next couple of days. 975 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,634 Help us through the night. 976 00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:00,100 She's just gonna be here kind of 24/7. 977 00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:02,333 [Robyn] Well... [chuckles] 978 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,133 [Mykelti] This was really nice 979 00:40:03,133 --> 00:40:04,433 'cause Robyn was able to get 980 00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:06,233 this bonding with her grandkids. 981 00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,266 So, when Robyn goes back home, 982 00:40:08,266 --> 00:40:10,266 Mom will be able to have her bonding 983 00:40:10,266 --> 00:40:11,967 as well with her grandkids. 984 00:40:11,967 --> 00:40:13,367 Then Maria being able to come up 985 00:40:13,367 --> 00:40:15,133 and have her bonding as well. 986 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,600 It's just... it's really nice. 987 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,734 Yeah. Yeah, this is the bed 988 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,867 I gave birth to Avalon in. 989 00:40:22,867 --> 00:40:25,834 All Robyn's kids love Mykelti. 990 00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:28,100 She puts a lot on herself. 991 00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:30,533 She puts a lot of all of this on herself, 992 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,166 about bringing the family together, 993 00:40:32,166 --> 00:40:34,266 and having it be her role, 994 00:40:34,266 --> 00:40:36,300 because she gets along great with Robyn. 995 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,634 And she gets along great with me. 996 00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:41,867 Kody and Robyn are grandparents to Avalon, 997 00:40:41,867 --> 00:40:44,066 and they'll be grandparents for the twins. 998 00:40:44,066 --> 00:40:45,934 Well, no. I technically gave birth 999 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,467 to Avalon on the floor. 1000 00:40:47,467 --> 00:40:49,133 [Maria] Yep, that's true. [chuckles] 1001 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,367 It's crazy 'cause people think when they get... 1002 00:40:52,367 --> 00:40:54,967 when they split, when they divorce or whatever, 1003 00:40:54,967 --> 00:40:56,233 that they won't have to see each other. 1004 00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:57,400 And that's not true. 1005 00:41:00,166 --> 00:41:02,000 You'll always be in each other's lives 1006 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,133 somehow or another. 1007 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,266 I'm going to be the one 1008 00:41:04,266 --> 00:41:06,233 kind of helping the most. 1009 00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:07,934 And then I'm sure Christine 1010 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,934 will kind of step in after I leave 1011 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,600 and I'll hand the baton off to her kind of a thing. So... 1012 00:41:15,767 --> 00:41:17,100 [Christine] Having Robyn there, to me, 1013 00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:18,700 just showed that... 1014 00:41:20,367 --> 00:41:22,000 I don't know how long it's gonna take 1015 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,767 for all of us to get back together again 1016 00:41:23,767 --> 00:41:26,033 and be okay in each other's presence. 1017 00:41:26,867 --> 00:41:27,900 It was awkward. 1018 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:30,867 And it's going to be awkward for a while, 1019 00:41:30,867 --> 00:41:34,567 and I don't know what the future looks like. 1020 00:41:34,567 --> 00:41:36,767 We'll do it for our kids, but... 1021 00:41:36,767 --> 00:41:38,433 it's not gonna happen, 1022 00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:41,500 anything that I want to have happen, soon. 1023 00:41:45,767 --> 00:41:47,867 [Kody speaking] 1024 00:41:47,867 --> 00:41:49,467 You want some dark... 1025 00:41:49,467 --> 00:41:51,033 This is the first Thanksgiving 1026 00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:52,166 that Robyn and I are having 1027 00:41:52,166 --> 00:41:53,433 with just our children. 1028 00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:54,667 [Meri] I've heard Kody say 1029 00:41:54,667 --> 00:41:56,033 how awkward it is 1030 00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:57,467 because he can't show the affection 1031 00:41:57,467 --> 00:42:00,066 to Robyn and I'm not gonna inhibit that. 1032 00:42:00,066 --> 00:42:02,433 -Robin slept in the closet -Seriously? 1033 00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:03,467 and she had both boys with her, 1034 00:42:03,467 --> 00:42:05,100 and when they would wake up and be hungry, 1035 00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:05,734 I'd feed one of the boys 1036 00:42:05,734 --> 00:42:07,166 and she'd go back to bed. 1037 00:42:07,166 --> 00:42:08,066 I said, "I'll take the closet. 1038 00:42:08,066 --> 00:42:10,000 Like, you should stay in the bed with her." 1039 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,667 And she wouldn't do it. 1040 00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:14,033 [Robyn] I was putting pressure on Kody 1041 00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:16,734 to work on his relationships with his kids. 1042 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,066 I'm tired of being angry. 1043 00:42:18,066 --> 00:42:19,767 Well, I'm having a hard time, 1044 00:42:19,767 --> 00:42:20,967 not... 1045 00:42:20,967 --> 00:42:23,734 losing respect for you a little bit. 1046 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,934 I think that Kody should be camping out 1047 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,767 on their doorsteps. 1048 00:42:26,767 --> 00:42:28,567 Your kids need you.