1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:01,900 [Kody] Previously on Sister Wives... 2 00:00:01,900 --> 00:00:03,467 [Christine] I don't have a relationship 3 00:00:03,467 --> 00:00:04,667 with Kody and Robyn. 4 00:00:04,667 --> 00:00:06,233 I've moved on. 5 00:00:06,300 --> 00:00:09,567 I'd been out on a few dates, met some really nice guys. 6 00:00:09,567 --> 00:00:12,000 It's just fun, really like it. 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,266 I did take a trip up to Utah earlier this week. 8 00:00:16,266 --> 00:00:19,266 I decided I was gonna move forward with 9 00:00:19,266 --> 00:00:24,166 the official termination through the church 10 00:00:24,166 --> 00:00:26,266 where we had gotten married. 11 00:00:26,266 --> 00:00:28,667 [Kody] I had moved on a long time ago 12 00:00:28,667 --> 00:00:32,000 but I was afraid of what she would do 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,533 if I ripped off that Band-Aid. 14 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:48,000 Just him, he's so hurt that I'm just... 15 00:00:49,867 --> 00:00:52,767 I just don't get to have the perfect Christmas. 16 00:00:52,767 --> 00:00:55,533 [theme music playing] 17 00:01:22,967 --> 00:01:25,433 This Christmas is the first Christmas 18 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:28,066 where I was just with the one wife and her children. 19 00:01:28,066 --> 00:01:31,367 Kids are waking up, we're gonna open some presents. 20 00:01:31,367 --> 00:01:35,634 Doing our best to engage the family, to be happy about it. 21 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:40,533 Really just engage, be present right here. 22 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,634 Right now in this moment. 23 00:01:42,700 --> 00:01:44,467 [indistinct chatter] 24 00:01:44,467 --> 00:01:46,467 [Robyn] It wasn't my first Christmas without everybody else, 25 00:01:46,467 --> 00:01:49,734 but it was my first Christmas without Meri. 26 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,767 There's so much that's unwrapped here. 27 00:01:53,767 --> 00:01:56,233 That's Kody. 28 00:01:56,300 --> 00:01:58,133 [laughs] 29 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,767 Robyn likes to wrap all the presents. 30 00:02:00,767 --> 00:02:04,400 Lot of work, lot of work, so usually I'm way, way late. 31 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,266 So our Christmas this year 32 00:02:10,266 --> 00:02:11,767 is going to be Aspyn and Mitch, 33 00:02:11,767 --> 00:02:13,867 Mykelti and Tony and the babies. 34 00:02:13,867 --> 00:02:15,567 Ysabel, Truely and I. 35 00:02:15,567 --> 00:02:18,300 It's gonna be definitely a smaller Christmas this year. 36 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,667 [indistinct chatter] 37 00:02:22,667 --> 00:02:24,634 Wait. 38 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:26,100 No way. 39 00:02:26,100 --> 00:02:27,834 -[Christine] Guess what it is? -It's a bobble head. 40 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:29,367 -That is. -It's hilarious. 41 00:02:29,367 --> 00:02:32,634 -It is a bobble head. -Wait, that is so funny. I'm obsessed. 42 00:02:32,700 --> 00:02:35,767 It doesn't feel I guess like Christmas 43 00:02:35,767 --> 00:02:37,867 'cause there's just... there's no chaos. 44 00:02:37,867 --> 00:02:40,567 I think that just getting used to being an adult 45 00:02:40,567 --> 00:02:43,133 without the Christmas that I grew up with is hard. 46 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,767 The plan today is just... 47 00:02:44,767 --> 00:02:47,333 honestly hangout and play with the babies. 48 00:02:51,767 --> 00:02:53,967 So, um... Happy Christmas. 49 00:02:53,967 --> 00:02:55,233 I'm here at Maddie's. 50 00:02:55,967 --> 00:02:57,467 What is it? 51 00:02:57,467 --> 00:02:58,867 She does all the Christmas traditions, 52 00:02:58,867 --> 00:03:01,533 like they go see the lights with the kids, 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,567 and... I just thought it would be so much fun 54 00:03:03,567 --> 00:03:06,800 to be where the kids where for Christmas this year. 55 00:03:07,667 --> 00:03:09,934 Oh, my gosh! 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,333 A train! 57 00:03:13,867 --> 00:03:15,100 [Meri] So this year for Christmas 58 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:16,367 I came up to Salt Lake. 59 00:03:16,367 --> 00:03:18,567 And I'm gonna spend it with 60 00:03:18,567 --> 00:03:20,934 my good friends Lisa and Amber. 61 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,867 Lisa used to babysit me when I was really young. 62 00:03:23,867 --> 00:03:28,634 And then of course I've known Amber almost her whole life. 63 00:03:28,700 --> 00:03:33,166 Kody and I made the decision that we're splitting up. 64 00:03:33,166 --> 00:03:36,166 There's absolutely no way shape of form 65 00:03:36,166 --> 00:03:39,500 that I would choose to spend Christmas with them. 66 00:03:40,667 --> 00:03:42,934 Why would I do that? 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,734 That makes no sense. That will never happen. 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,500 Like we're done. Like our marriage is over. 69 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:52,734 I'm not gonna just... 70 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,166 go be a third wheel. 71 00:03:54,166 --> 00:03:57,033 Future's so bright I gotta wear shades. 72 00:03:57,100 --> 00:03:58,667 [both laughing] 73 00:03:58,667 --> 00:04:00,400 Cheers. 74 00:04:05,266 --> 00:04:10,133 I'd rather... be somewhere that... 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,300 people want me, you know. 76 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:18,400 [indistinct chatter] 77 00:04:21,266 --> 00:04:23,266 [Janelle] It's been a very fun, relaxing, 78 00:04:23,266 --> 00:04:25,634 if not kind of weird holiday. 79 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:27,367 Became really, really aware... 80 00:04:27,367 --> 00:04:29,467 especially when it gets time to cook some of those foods 81 00:04:29,467 --> 00:04:32,567 that we've always had the... I never participated in the making of, 82 00:04:32,567 --> 00:04:34,567 I'm like, "Oh, I have to look up a recipe." 83 00:04:34,567 --> 00:04:37,433 And then I had to try to remember what everybody did, so 84 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:39,266 that was kind of different. But anyway, 85 00:04:39,266 --> 00:04:41,634 it's been a really good day so far. 86 00:04:42,567 --> 00:04:45,667 -Hop along. -Oh, my God, she's wild. 87 00:04:45,667 --> 00:04:48,266 [Mykelti] There's a lot of just the... the small things 88 00:04:48,266 --> 00:04:51,767 that each one of my parents brought in to the Brown family. 89 00:04:51,767 --> 00:04:54,367 And added to the traditions 90 00:04:54,367 --> 00:04:57,033 of what we did around our holidays that have been... 91 00:04:57,100 --> 00:04:58,200 are gone now. 92 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,233 Because my family, just the dynamic looks different. 93 00:05:04,967 --> 00:05:06,166 -[Kody] The goodies. -[boy exclaims] 94 00:05:06,166 --> 00:05:07,867 [Kody] Hope you like those goodies. 95 00:05:07,867 --> 00:05:11,000 [Robyn] The best part of Christmas for me is that the kids had a good Christmas 96 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,467 and they were having a good time. 97 00:05:12,467 --> 00:05:14,634 For my children's sake, 98 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:17,634 I just need to focus on what's good today. 99 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:18,667 And that's what I did. 100 00:05:18,667 --> 00:05:21,333 I think this will slowly become the new norm 101 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,834 and that's okay. 102 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:27,333 [Meri] I love Christmas time. 103 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,166 I have loved the years that we have spent together. 104 00:05:31,166 --> 00:05:33,834 I have loved all the memories that we have created. 105 00:05:34,567 --> 00:05:36,300 And people evolve. 106 00:05:37,066 --> 00:05:39,667 And we don't do that anymore, and that's okay. 107 00:05:39,667 --> 00:05:43,767 There's no way for me to know what each year's gonna bring. 108 00:05:43,767 --> 00:05:46,033 It'll probably be something different every year. 109 00:05:55,667 --> 00:05:58,033 [Aspyn] My mom had went on a couple of dates, 110 00:05:58,100 --> 00:06:02,000 and she didn't really talk too much about people 111 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,367 but she's... started talking a lot about... 112 00:06:04,367 --> 00:06:06,333 this one guy that she went on a date with. 113 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:10,867 I'm excited for my mom to date. 114 00:06:10,867 --> 00:06:13,867 She's never really dated before, she didn't... 115 00:06:13,867 --> 00:06:16,166 really date guys before my dad. 116 00:06:16,166 --> 00:06:18,266 She liked my dad and then they got married. 117 00:06:18,266 --> 00:06:20,467 Um, so this is her first experience, 118 00:06:20,467 --> 00:06:22,266 and it's really exciting for her. 119 00:06:22,266 --> 00:06:24,233 And I'm excited for her. 120 00:06:24,867 --> 00:06:26,367 -[Tony] Here you go. -[woman] Oh, my God. 121 00:06:26,367 --> 00:06:28,266 -[woman 2] You gonna come play with mama? -[woman] What? 122 00:06:28,266 --> 00:06:29,667 -Come play with me. -[Tony] Here you go. 123 00:06:29,667 --> 00:06:31,467 -I love you. -[Tony] Here. 124 00:06:31,467 --> 00:06:34,433 I have been going on dates for about six months, 125 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:37,967 just not really dating one specific person, 126 00:06:37,967 --> 00:06:40,767 but dated different guys for like six months. 127 00:06:40,767 --> 00:06:43,100 One guy was very religious. 128 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:46,667 I don't know how we ever matched up at all. 129 00:06:46,667 --> 00:06:49,333 I told him that I was a polygamist. 130 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,834 And he was like, "Wait, what?" 131 00:06:53,166 --> 00:06:56,634 And then there was another time it was sad, it was, um... 132 00:06:57,367 --> 00:06:59,066 I was on a second date with a guy. 133 00:06:59,066 --> 00:07:01,033 We had a great time on our first date. 134 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:04,166 In our second date we started talking about... 135 00:07:04,166 --> 00:07:06,133 then I just started sharing a little bit, 136 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,000 just about polygamy and things like that. 137 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,166 And he'd never heard about polygamy at all. 138 00:07:11,166 --> 00:07:13,433 This is over, and I was like, 139 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:15,667 whoa, this is serious. This is serious to some people. 140 00:07:15,667 --> 00:07:21,133 I'm just about 52, and the idea of dating... 141 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,433 is so weird. 142 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:24,533 Then add the fact that... 143 00:07:25,367 --> 00:07:28,967 I was in a plural family for 30 something years. 144 00:07:28,967 --> 00:07:32,000 You know what I mean, like, they may just think that 145 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,367 that's what I'm interested in, 146 00:07:33,367 --> 00:07:36,934 just because that's what I've done for so long. 147 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,867 [gasps] Who's that? 148 00:07:38,867 --> 00:07:40,166 [Aspyn] Hey. 149 00:07:40,166 --> 00:07:42,867 [Janelle] I know Christine, like she told me a few months ago 150 00:07:42,867 --> 00:07:45,367 that she, um, hired a match maker. 151 00:07:45,367 --> 00:07:47,934 I don't... I don't know if she's found anybody yet. 152 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,867 If I ever meet somebody again, it will be... have to be organic. 153 00:07:50,867 --> 00:07:52,767 So I'm just not going to... 154 00:07:52,767 --> 00:07:55,767 going to that... I just know, it's just I can't. 155 00:07:55,767 --> 00:07:56,967 Not interested. 156 00:07:56,967 --> 00:08:00,767 In the datings apes... dating apps... scene. 157 00:08:00,767 --> 00:08:04,166 So if her moving on means... 158 00:08:04,166 --> 00:08:06,767 finding somebody new, 159 00:08:06,767 --> 00:08:08,667 like, I hope she does it. 160 00:08:08,667 --> 00:08:12,266 My life and Christine's life are separate and private from each other. 161 00:08:12,266 --> 00:08:15,066 And I... I would expect that she'd be dating. 162 00:08:15,066 --> 00:08:17,700 It's really none of my business. 163 00:08:18,667 --> 00:08:20,767 Babies, Mitchell! 164 00:08:20,767 --> 00:08:22,433 Hello. 165 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:24,734 -Ysabel just went to pick up Truely. -Thank you. 166 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,734 [Christine] When I decided to start dating, 167 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,066 I was just nervous. 168 00:08:28,066 --> 00:08:31,567 But I wanted to date and I wanted to... 169 00:08:31,567 --> 00:08:32,667 be on a date. 170 00:08:32,667 --> 00:08:35,667 And so, I contacted a match maker. 171 00:08:35,667 --> 00:08:38,367 When I left Kody I decided I wanted to find someone who was bald 172 00:08:38,367 --> 00:08:41,834 and had tattoos and drove a motorcycle and stuff. 173 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:44,467 And just... just to find something so... different. 174 00:08:44,467 --> 00:08:46,934 But really, honestly I thought that sounded just extremely sexy. 175 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,133 -Have a seat. -Yeah, yeah. 176 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,166 You wanted... you want us to talk before... 177 00:08:52,166 --> 00:08:53,634 Truely gets here? 178 00:08:54,767 --> 00:08:56,233 -Yes. -[Mykelti] Do you have 179 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:57,867 anything you need to tell us before Truely gets here? 180 00:08:57,867 --> 00:09:00,934 [Christine] No. Do you have anything you need to tell me 181 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,100 before Truely gets here? [chuckling] 182 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:06,166 Tony, do you have anything you need to tell mom before Truely gets here? 183 00:09:06,166 --> 00:09:07,834 No. I'm waiting for Truely to get here. 184 00:09:07,900 --> 00:09:10,734 What were you guys's first impressions of David? There. 185 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,934 Well, I like him. 186 00:09:11,934 --> 00:09:13,867 Wow. That was like the most unsmooth transition ever. 187 00:09:13,867 --> 00:09:15,667 -That was not. -What the heck? 188 00:09:15,667 --> 00:09:17,000 David's my boyfriend. 189 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,967 I met him online, and... 190 00:09:19,967 --> 00:09:22,567 we met in person four... 191 00:09:22,567 --> 00:09:24,934 like, about a month after we started talking, 192 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,100 we met in person. 193 00:09:26,100 --> 00:09:29,033 And the date went great. 194 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,266 He was just charming and kind. 195 00:09:34,266 --> 00:09:36,333 His eyes were amazing. 196 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,367 And he's everything that I was looking for. 197 00:09:38,367 --> 00:09:41,567 And then we went on a second date, 198 00:09:41,567 --> 00:09:43,567 and... I told him everything. 199 00:09:43,567 --> 00:09:46,000 Blurted out everything. 200 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,734 And he already knew about polygamy, 201 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,000 he'd already heard about it. 202 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,834 And I'm like, "You don't want to be a polygamist, right?" 203 00:09:52,900 --> 00:09:54,100 He's like, "No!" 204 00:09:54,100 --> 00:09:55,367 No. I'm a monogamist." 205 00:09:55,367 --> 00:09:56,934 I'm like, "Okay, well, that's good." 206 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,600 So what are you guys's first impressions with David? 207 00:10:00,266 --> 00:10:02,100 I let him hold my kid, that says a lot. 208 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:03,467 I don't let everybody hold my children. 209 00:10:03,467 --> 00:10:05,266 Hey, he was pretty good... 210 00:10:05,266 --> 00:10:07,166 -with the kids. -[Christine] Yeah? Cool. 211 00:10:07,166 --> 00:10:10,567 [Tony] Yeah, I like how he survived. 212 00:10:10,567 --> 00:10:12,367 [Mykelti] Do you... I don't know if you want to talk about that. 213 00:10:12,367 --> 00:10:13,667 Oh, yeah, I know. Because his wife died. 214 00:10:13,667 --> 00:10:15,867 -His wife died... -I know. His youngest was six. 215 00:10:15,867 --> 00:10:18,567 ...and left him with eight kids. 216 00:10:18,567 --> 00:10:23,767 And... he didn't get addicted to gambling and drugs. 217 00:10:23,767 --> 00:10:25,867 -And he made it, like he came out... -Yeah. 218 00:10:25,867 --> 00:10:29,033 ...the other side with pretty decent kids, that's hard. 219 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:30,767 He's a father of eight kids. 220 00:10:30,767 --> 00:10:34,767 And he has zzz... ten... he has nine, he has nine grandkids. 221 00:10:34,767 --> 00:10:38,166 His wife passed away eleven years ago. 222 00:10:38,166 --> 00:10:40,867 Hey, Paedon. Hey, buddy, how are you? 223 00:10:40,867 --> 00:10:42,166 [Paedon] I'm doing well. 224 00:10:42,166 --> 00:10:43,667 [Ysabel] Thank you. Hi, good to see you, too. 225 00:10:43,667 --> 00:10:45,467 Paedon, you can actually sit over there by Mitchell too. 226 00:10:45,467 --> 00:10:47,533 David and I have been on many dates now. 227 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,467 And it's only been a month. 228 00:10:49,467 --> 00:10:51,867 It just feels bright. 229 00:10:51,867 --> 00:10:55,634 I'm 50, I know what I want, I know what I had before. 230 00:10:55,700 --> 00:10:57,467 This feels totally different. 231 00:10:57,467 --> 00:11:01,433 And I dated enough guys in the past year to know what I'm looking for. 232 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:02,133 -You have? -So, 233 00:11:02,133 --> 00:11:04,667 I consider a eight a lot. 234 00:11:04,667 --> 00:11:08,000 -Um... a lot of guys to go out with. -Eight? 235 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,967 -Yeah, I would consider... -I don't know, it's not double digits. 236 00:11:10,967 --> 00:11:12,266 -What? -You... 237 00:11:12,266 --> 00:11:14,033 -You have double digits? -Only one was two dates. 238 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:17,333 Only one made it to two dates, two dates besides David. 239 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,000 -I'm 50, I know what I'm looking for up here. -Yeah. 240 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,934 Truely, can I ask you a question and get an honest answer from you? 241 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,166 -Like a legit... -Let them know. 242 00:11:26,166 --> 00:11:27,734 [Mykelti] Like, can I get a legit, 243 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,433 -honest answer. -What is your question? 244 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:31,133 What do you think about David? 245 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,166 He... is funny and I get along with him. 246 00:11:34,166 --> 00:11:35,367 [Mykelti] Good. 247 00:11:35,367 --> 00:11:36,967 I like him. 248 00:11:36,967 --> 00:11:38,467 [Christine] I'm glad you guys like him. 249 00:11:38,467 --> 00:11:39,934 He reminds me of Kody. 250 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,066 -[Christine] Oh, God. -[man] Oh, fun. 251 00:11:42,066 --> 00:11:43,634 -What? It's true. -[woman] Wow. 252 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:45,233 You gotta expand on that, Tony. 253 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:49,367 He's... he's like from the same generation for sure. 254 00:11:49,367 --> 00:11:52,433 All this boomer stuff that I have no idea what he was saying... 255 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:53,567 [Mykelti] Tony, he's not a boomer. 256 00:11:53,567 --> 00:11:55,266 He's totally a boomer, are you kidding? 257 00:11:55,266 --> 00:11:57,166 -No, he's not a boomer. -Bro! 258 00:11:57,166 --> 00:12:00,166 Okay, he's 59, wait. He's 59. 259 00:12:00,166 --> 00:12:02,233 -Fifty-nine? -Does that make... Yeah, I know. 260 00:12:02,300 --> 00:12:04,867 -[Tony] Sixty years ago? -[Aspyn] That's the same as you, right, Mom? 261 00:12:04,867 --> 00:12:06,767 -[Ysabel] No. Mum's 50. -I'm 50. 262 00:12:06,767 --> 00:12:09,000 [Aspyn] No, I know how old you are. 263 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,066 I mean it's the same generation as you. 264 00:12:11,066 --> 00:12:13,533 -I don't know. -[Tony] That's like cold war stuff, man. 265 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,900 -Cold war? -[woman] Tony! 266 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:17,533 -Oh, my words, do you know when the cold war was? -When was it? 267 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,867 I think I'm older than you think. 268 00:12:19,867 --> 00:12:21,934 See, I'm not a boomer, 269 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,500 and David's only five years older than I am. 270 00:12:25,066 --> 00:12:26,467 So I don't think he's a boomer. 271 00:12:26,467 --> 00:12:28,367 I'm not a frickin' boomer. 272 00:12:28,367 --> 00:12:30,367 I'm not a boomer. 273 00:12:30,367 --> 00:12:33,667 I'm not. My mom's a boomer. Is David a boomer? 274 00:12:33,667 --> 00:12:35,333 Is 1967... 275 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,100 [chuckles] Am I dating a boomer? 276 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:41,667 So David's a boomer and my mom's a boomer. 277 00:12:41,667 --> 00:12:44,634 David is eight years older than I am. 278 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:46,033 Eight. 279 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:47,634 [whispering] He's a boomer. 280 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:52,066 All I know was like, the 80s are my jam. 281 00:12:52,066 --> 00:12:53,667 Like, I loved the 80s. 282 00:12:53,667 --> 00:12:57,233 Like, I hear 80s music now, and I'm like all over that. 283 00:12:57,300 --> 00:13:00,100 Gen X, we're the feral generation. 284 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:02,867 What a great time to be alive. 285 00:13:02,867 --> 00:13:05,266 You know, like, you're a teenager in the 80s, 286 00:13:05,266 --> 00:13:07,567 you got music videos. 287 00:13:07,567 --> 00:13:10,266 You got fashion just like... 288 00:13:10,266 --> 00:13:12,166 there's so many amazing things happened. 289 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:16,467 Duran Duran happened in the 80s. 290 00:13:16,467 --> 00:13:18,133 [Christine laughs] 291 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,533 Yeah, he was 58 when we met, 292 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,867 but then he had his birthday, so he is 59. 293 00:13:21,867 --> 00:13:24,166 I tease him about his age all the time though. 294 00:13:24,166 --> 00:13:26,233 -He's great. -Tease about it more when he's 60. 295 00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:29,667 I mean, when you... if you guys are still dating by then. 296 00:13:29,667 --> 00:13:30,967 -Yeah, that's a long time to go. -I will. 297 00:13:30,967 --> 00:13:33,133 I guarantee we will be, so. 298 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,100 I knew after our first date that this was something 299 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:37,567 that I wanted to really invest in. 300 00:13:37,567 --> 00:13:39,300 My kids, it's... 301 00:13:40,166 --> 00:13:42,734 It's gonna be too soon for them. 302 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,500 I mean, it's important for me to know how my kids feel about David. 303 00:13:47,667 --> 00:13:52,000 But however they feel is not gonna end my relationship with David. 304 00:13:54,266 --> 00:13:56,734 We have said the magical words to each other. 305 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,166 Who said it first? 306 00:13:58,166 --> 00:14:00,166 -Him of course. -What? 307 00:14:00,166 --> 00:14:02,166 -Oh, God. -He said it first? 308 00:14:02,166 --> 00:14:05,500 He did say it first. I said it right after though. 309 00:14:13,967 --> 00:14:16,834 [Christine] Okay, good. Ysabel, I think... if you don't mind, 310 00:14:16,900 --> 00:14:19,166 I think... what was your initial reaction of David, 311 00:14:19,166 --> 00:14:22,033 how do you feel like? 'Cause I think that out of all my kids, 312 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:23,433 you are taking it the hardest. 313 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:24,600 Can we ask about that? 314 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,266 -[Tony] Wait. Really, is he? -I'm not taking it hard. 315 00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:29,066 I said you're taking it the hardest. 316 00:14:29,066 --> 00:14:30,867 I'm just moving slower. 317 00:14:30,867 --> 00:14:33,533 [Tony] I... I also think you're taking it the hardest. 318 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,834 [Ysabel] Anyways... 319 00:14:34,834 --> 00:14:36,567 I feel like you're more protective of me than anyone else. 320 00:14:36,567 --> 00:14:38,033 Yeah, maybe. 321 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:41,166 As happy as I am for her, I think that there is... 322 00:14:41,166 --> 00:14:42,867 like a strangeness in it 323 00:14:42,867 --> 00:14:45,533 just because I've only known her as married to my dad. 324 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,066 So she's divorced. She's only been divorced for a little bit. 325 00:14:48,066 --> 00:14:51,767 And so it's a little... I think... 326 00:14:51,767 --> 00:14:53,033 just strange. 327 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:54,533 I thought it was fine. I thought it was fine. 328 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,567 I do know however think you guys are moving so, so fast. 329 00:14:57,567 --> 00:14:59,166 -[Tony] Agreed. -So fast. 330 00:14:59,166 --> 00:15:01,133 I proposed to Tony before two months. 331 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,667 -[Ysabel] I'm not talking about you right now. -I'm just saying. 332 00:15:02,667 --> 00:15:03,967 I'm talking about mom. 333 00:15:03,967 --> 00:15:06,867 This is all fast. It definitely is. 334 00:15:06,867 --> 00:15:10,333 Um, I think it's harder for some siblings than others. 335 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,667 If Christine's wanting to date, 336 00:15:12,667 --> 00:15:14,634 she should have been dating... 337 00:15:14,700 --> 00:15:17,667 In my mind it's like, whenever she felt like she was divorced. 338 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:19,667 I... I agree with you, it is moving fast. 339 00:15:19,667 --> 00:15:21,133 [Mykelti] I think it's also like you've never been 340 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,467 physically affectionate with somebody before. 341 00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:25,667 -[Christine] Yeah. -Because I mean, you got dad and his other wives 342 00:15:25,667 --> 00:15:27,967 and you're not really physically affectionate in front of them. 343 00:15:27,967 --> 00:15:29,834 Well, dad and I really never were that 344 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:31,667 -physically affectionate anyway. -[Mykelti] Yeah. 345 00:15:31,667 --> 00:15:34,266 How is that with you guys seeing me physically affectionate? 346 00:15:34,266 --> 00:15:36,667 [Mykelti] I like it. I think it's healthy. 347 00:15:36,667 --> 00:15:39,333 Ysabel doesn't like PDA from anybody though. 348 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,867 [Paedon] I'm super happy for you. 349 00:15:40,867 --> 00:15:44,166 -Just in general... -It's weird. I'm happy for you. 350 00:15:44,166 --> 00:15:46,200 But I'd rather not be in the same room. 351 00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:49,533 So we kiss, and we hug in front of our kids. 352 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,133 It's a whole new world for them. 353 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,533 And David and I just don't care. 354 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,367 And our kids are just going to have to get used to it. 355 00:15:57,367 --> 00:15:59,233 I mean Kody and I were always very affectionate. 356 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:01,934 I just was uncomfortable with PDA in front of everybody. 357 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,033 Personally, I think there's a limit to PDA. 358 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:09,767 Whether you're in a plural family or... just dating, 359 00:16:09,767 --> 00:16:12,100 you know, like, nobody wants to see... 360 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:14,066 You know, "Hey, go get a room." 361 00:16:14,066 --> 00:16:16,066 You know what I mean, like... 362 00:16:16,066 --> 00:16:17,567 be respectful. 363 00:16:17,567 --> 00:16:20,266 [Kody] I hated PDA because I had four wives, 364 00:16:20,266 --> 00:16:23,166 and it was just always awkward, never quite right. 365 00:16:23,166 --> 00:16:26,233 I... I'll... I actually... 366 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:29,100 I like doing PDA now. 367 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:31,734 But Robyn's very shy. 368 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:35,967 So the other evening when you were over... 369 00:16:35,967 --> 00:16:38,367 -and David was here... -It's so weird. 370 00:16:38,367 --> 00:16:40,133 -[Ysabel] Yeah, it is really weird. -It is so weird. 371 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,467 -We were just sitting there. -[Mykelti] I don't think it's weird. 372 00:16:43,467 --> 00:16:47,667 Yeah, my mom always wanted more physical affection from Dad. 373 00:16:47,667 --> 00:16:49,867 And she didn't really get it. 374 00:16:49,867 --> 00:16:54,200 And so now she's gonna have one person to herself, who she can have... 375 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,834 physical affection with publicly as much as she wants. 376 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:00,266 So do you think this is long term? 377 00:17:00,266 --> 00:17:01,867 [Christine] Yes. 378 00:17:01,867 --> 00:17:03,266 I do. 379 00:17:03,266 --> 00:17:05,567 -He's cool. He's chill. -[Mykelti] Are all his kids on-board with you? 380 00:17:05,567 --> 00:17:06,967 Oh, yeah. Big time. 381 00:17:06,967 --> 00:17:08,667 -I gotta go to work. -They took us two on a date, 382 00:17:08,667 --> 00:17:10,734 like, his kids... his oldest kid, 383 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,100 -like took us on a chocolate date. -That's so cute. 384 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:15,133 -That's where that was? -Yeah, that's where that chocolate bar comes from. 385 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,567 -I want t try that chocolate. -Yeah. 386 00:17:16,567 --> 00:17:18,467 -[Aspyn] I think Ysabel's gotta go to work. -Yeah. I gotta leave. 387 00:17:18,467 --> 00:17:20,166 -You guys try that chocolate. -Oh, I love you. 388 00:17:20,166 --> 00:17:21,834 -Tell me how you like it. -[Aspyn] Ysabel, just really quick. 389 00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:23,634 -Sorry, you can go. -You're okay? 390 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:26,467 I just think it's okay also that you're having feelings 391 00:17:26,467 --> 00:17:28,033 -about this, like... -[Christine] Yes. 392 00:17:28,033 --> 00:17:30,834 -[Ysabel] I think so, too. -It's not like a crazy thing, like, that you are... 393 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:33,467 I think what you're doing, how fast you're going, it's okay. 394 00:17:33,467 --> 00:17:35,867 And I'll... I'll get used to it. 395 00:17:35,867 --> 00:17:37,000 And it's okay to get used to it, too. 396 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,533 -But it might take me... but I'm doing fine now. -Yeah. 397 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,967 -Okay, good. Good. -Yeah. 398 00:17:40,967 --> 00:17:43,133 Mom, acknowledging it's going fast, 399 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,667 isn't us telling you that it's bad. 400 00:17:44,667 --> 00:17:46,567 -[Christine] Yeah, I know... -It's just... it's just being us observant. 401 00:17:46,567 --> 00:17:48,567 It's just like, "Oh, this is going really fast." 402 00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:50,934 -Me... okay. -It's not... it's not telling... 403 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,734 it's not us telling you to stop or slow down. 404 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,166 Oh, good, because I wouldn't. 405 00:17:54,166 --> 00:17:55,667 -[chuckles] -It's true, it's going... 406 00:17:55,667 --> 00:17:58,233 It just... it is going fast. It's just us observing. 407 00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:01,767 This is arguably mom's first boyfriend ever. 408 00:18:01,767 --> 00:18:05,834 So... I think they're moving fast, but... 409 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,133 It's also completely okay, 410 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,567 because this is a brand new experience for her at least. 411 00:18:11,567 --> 00:18:14,934 [Christine] And I told him... I said that there's a lot of extra kids in my life, 412 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,667 and I want you to meet all of them and Janelle and everybody and he's like, 413 00:18:18,667 --> 00:18:20,133 "I'll meet whoever you want." 414 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:23,467 The second date that we went on was the date where I told him everything. 415 00:18:23,467 --> 00:18:26,100 And us talking about me being a polygamist, 416 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:28,367 he's like, "I've known some polygamists." 417 00:18:28,367 --> 00:18:31,934 Such a relief that he understood polygamy. 418 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,834 We have said the magical words to each other. 419 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:36,867 But it only took us a week. What? 420 00:18:36,867 --> 00:18:39,033 Oh, I was gonna high-five you, but then... 421 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:40,767 -You wait, you said I love you within a week? -[Christine] Yes. 422 00:18:40,767 --> 00:18:43,133 It was a week and a day. It was just a week. 423 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,967 -[chuckles] -Who said it first? 424 00:18:44,967 --> 00:18:46,767 -Him of course. -What? 425 00:18:46,767 --> 00:18:48,934 -Oh, God. -He said it first? 426 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,467 He did say it first. 427 00:18:50,467 --> 00:18:52,433 I said it right after though. 428 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:55,033 I want mom to be happy, I want mom to be safe. 429 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:57,634 And I'm holding judgement until I meet him. 430 00:18:57,700 --> 00:18:59,266 But from what I've seen and heard, she's happy. 431 00:18:59,266 --> 00:19:01,033 And I think she'll be okay. 432 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:04,266 We sat down, I met... I went through and met his family. 433 00:19:04,266 --> 00:19:06,667 And then we sat down off to the side, 434 00:19:06,667 --> 00:19:09,467 he just pulled, uh, my chair next to him, 435 00:19:09,467 --> 00:19:11,133 and he just pulled me into him, 436 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,200 and we just cuddled, and I thought... 437 00:19:14,066 --> 00:19:16,233 Everything is crazy all around us, 438 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:20,367 and I'm like, so everything is gonna be crazy all around us, 439 00:19:20,367 --> 00:19:23,533 but right here we're gonna be calm and... 440 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,533 I legit felt calm for the first time in my life, 441 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,100 and I put my hand on his heart and it was racing so fast. 442 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:34,233 And my heart was racing so fast, 443 00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:35,634 but it was like... 444 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,567 a breath. And... [chuckles softly] 445 00:19:39,567 --> 00:19:41,567 I just realized I loved him then. 446 00:19:41,567 --> 00:19:43,500 And I would do this... 447 00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:46,000 for the rest of my life. 448 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:52,133 It was the most amazing memory... 449 00:19:52,867 --> 00:19:54,834 experience... 450 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:57,433 and then our souls just synced up. 451 00:19:57,500 --> 00:19:59,433 And our heartbeats synced up. 452 00:20:00,166 --> 00:20:03,600 And I realized I was in love with him. 453 00:20:09,867 --> 00:20:11,567 [Kody] My whole life with Meri, 454 00:20:11,567 --> 00:20:13,166 she has said one thing 455 00:20:13,166 --> 00:20:15,066 and I have felt the vibe for another. 456 00:20:15,066 --> 00:20:17,634 I felt like I'd been shoveled bull [bleep] my whole life. 457 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:20,100 Had I wanted to leave sooner, 458 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:22,200 I would've left sooner. 459 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,800 [instrumental music playing] 460 00:20:32,467 --> 00:20:33,834 [Janelle] It takes a complete-- 461 00:20:33,834 --> 00:20:34,800 Like I have to like, 462 00:20:34,867 --> 00:20:35,967 yesterday when we were cooking 463 00:20:35,967 --> 00:20:38,033 and everything, it was hard for me to settle down. 464 00:20:38,033 --> 00:20:40,934 But now I'm like, "Oh okay, this is good. 465 00:20:40,934 --> 00:20:42,367 This is good today." 466 00:20:42,367 --> 00:20:44,333 I'm here. Savanah is with me. 467 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,767 We're always talking about where could we get property? 468 00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:48,734 What about the property in Montana? 469 00:20:48,734 --> 00:20:50,734 'Cause we loved it there. 470 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,867 My opinion is, 471 00:20:51,867 --> 00:20:54,867 -if we find just a plot of land... -That's right. 472 00:20:54,867 --> 00:20:57,967 ...that is just so amazing that we've got to have it, 473 00:20:57,967 --> 00:21:00,266 -then let's buy th-- -I wish that one wasn't 474 00:21:00,266 --> 00:21:01,734 40 miles from now. 475 00:21:01,734 --> 00:21:05,333 And then we can start working on building the house, our house, together. 476 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,867 [Janelle] Maddie and Caleb and I, 477 00:21:06,867 --> 00:21:08,767 we realized that we both kind of want to do the same thing. 478 00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:10,734 I have kids who want to have a piece of property. 479 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,066 We would never be real farmers. 480 00:21:12,066 --> 00:21:13,834 Like we're never gonna be real farmers. 481 00:21:13,834 --> 00:21:15,066 It'd be awesome. 482 00:21:15,066 --> 00:21:17,100 But we'll hobby farm around, 483 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:20,834 and maybe we'll... have some chickens 484 00:21:20,834 --> 00:21:23,500 and a garden, and maybe we'll grow something, I don't know. 485 00:21:27,967 --> 00:21:31,000 The property in Montana is exactly what you think of when you think of the West. 486 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,367 It's sagebrush knee high all over the place. 487 00:21:34,367 --> 00:21:36,166 There's a little creek that runs across it, 488 00:21:36,166 --> 00:21:37,900 which is very rare in the West. 489 00:21:37,967 --> 00:21:40,367 And it's just cute. It's just perfect. 490 00:21:40,367 --> 00:21:43,567 I talked to your dad and I decided I wanted you just to buy me out. 491 00:21:43,567 --> 00:21:46,100 And I think that was interesting to him. 492 00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:47,667 Um... 493 00:21:47,667 --> 00:21:50,133 But your dad doesn't take action really fast. 494 00:21:50,133 --> 00:21:53,834 Like until it's like... everything's falling down 495 00:21:53,834 --> 00:21:55,600 and then he finally gets like-- 496 00:21:57,567 --> 00:22:00,133 I'm actually going to still consult a lawyer. 497 00:22:00,133 --> 00:22:04,333 I still have the property in Flagstaff, Coyote Pass. 498 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,800 We're gonna split it four ways. 499 00:22:06,867 --> 00:22:08,333 And the last I talked to Kody, 500 00:22:08,333 --> 00:22:12,000 he says he doesn't have his part of the money to pay off the property. 501 00:22:12,867 --> 00:22:15,467 I have my part, and it's just sitting there. 502 00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:19,533 It's really up to Meri, Robyn, Kody and I to pay it off. 503 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,967 Look, all of my "retirement", all the money I've saved 504 00:22:24,967 --> 00:22:28,367 is tied up right now in these properties on Coyote Pass. 505 00:22:28,367 --> 00:22:32,367 I have suggested to Kody that he just get a loan and finance me out. 506 00:22:32,367 --> 00:22:34,100 Get my portion out. 507 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:37,100 Because when we're pooling our efforts and our resources, 508 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:40,166 then all of a sudden everything-- So much more. 509 00:22:40,166 --> 00:22:43,066 -Lot more stuff -So much more becomes possible. 510 00:22:43,066 --> 00:22:44,100 I'm so ready, 511 00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:46,166 as I'm living in this apartment in Flagstaff, 512 00:22:46,166 --> 00:22:48,266 I'm so ready to be somewhere 513 00:22:48,266 --> 00:22:51,934 that I can choose which furniture I want permanently. 514 00:22:51,934 --> 00:22:53,900 Like I would love to settle somewhere. 515 00:22:53,967 --> 00:22:56,533 I'm so ready to settle somewhere. 516 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,000 You know, I can remember... 517 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,967 It was right after we'd moved to Las Vegas, 518 00:23:01,967 --> 00:23:04,266 and I just had this perspective change 519 00:23:04,266 --> 00:23:06,367 where all of sudden I'm like, "You know what? 520 00:23:06,367 --> 00:23:08,367 I'm not gonna sit around and wait for Kody." 521 00:23:08,367 --> 00:23:09,767 And if I sat around and wait for him, 522 00:23:09,767 --> 00:23:11,433 nothing ever would happen. 523 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:12,166 Nothing. 524 00:23:12,166 --> 00:23:13,400 [instrumental music playing] 525 00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:25,600 [Kody] I'm going over to Meri's place. 526 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,934 We're gonna talk about our divorce, our breakup. 527 00:23:27,934 --> 00:23:29,567 I think there's just some things 528 00:23:29,567 --> 00:23:30,700 we've got to clarify. 529 00:23:33,266 --> 00:23:34,934 My whole life with Meri, 530 00:23:34,934 --> 00:23:36,467 she has said one thing 531 00:23:36,467 --> 00:23:38,367 and I have felt the vibe for another. 532 00:23:38,367 --> 00:23:41,000 And I'm not gonna sit and accuse her of gaslighting. 533 00:23:41,066 --> 00:23:43,567 But I felt like I'd been shoveled bull [bleep] my whole life. 534 00:23:43,567 --> 00:23:45,500 I don't know where she's at ever. 535 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:47,800 [Meri] Oh Hi. Come on in. 536 00:23:47,867 --> 00:23:49,000 -[Kody] How's it going? -I'm good. 537 00:23:49,066 --> 00:23:49,667 How are you? 538 00:23:49,667 --> 00:23:52,000 -I'm good. -Good, good. 539 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,266 [Meri] A few months ago, Kody and Robyn and I 540 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,867 were out at the property. 541 00:23:55,867 --> 00:23:59,000 We ended up talking about our relationship. 542 00:23:59,066 --> 00:24:03,800 After that, I ended up moving forward 543 00:24:03,867 --> 00:24:05,433 and taking the steps 544 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:10,000 through the church that we were married in 545 00:24:10,066 --> 00:24:12,967 to terminate the marriage. 546 00:24:15,667 --> 00:24:17,800 Dave and I have been dating for about a month. 547 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:20,100 -Hi, baby. -Hello. 548 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:21,200 Come in. 549 00:24:24,133 --> 00:24:24,967 [kisses] 550 00:24:24,967 --> 00:24:26,100 Hi. 551 00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:27,734 I would like you to meet David. 552 00:24:27,734 --> 00:24:28,800 Ta da! 553 00:24:30,233 --> 00:24:31,500 [instrumental music playing] 554 00:24:38,133 --> 00:24:39,867 [Christine] When I was still married to Kody, 555 00:24:39,867 --> 00:24:42,133 Nancy, our therapist, told me 556 00:24:42,133 --> 00:24:43,934 to make a list of qualities 557 00:24:43,934 --> 00:24:45,233 that I was looking for in a husband 558 00:24:45,233 --> 00:24:46,967 that was super important to me. 559 00:24:46,967 --> 00:24:49,000 And it was like, a good communicator, 560 00:24:49,066 --> 00:24:50,867 someone who was going to be present in my life, 561 00:24:50,867 --> 00:24:53,233 someone who wanted to be around my children, 562 00:24:53,233 --> 00:24:54,934 someone who was attracted to me, 563 00:24:54,934 --> 00:24:56,266 just a list of things. 564 00:24:56,266 --> 00:25:00,133 And Kody wasn't any of the things on the list. 565 00:25:02,734 --> 00:25:04,433 I told him the list and he's like, 566 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:06,667 "I'm not any of those things for you". 567 00:25:06,667 --> 00:25:08,400 I said, "No, you're not". 568 00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:13,066 David and I have been dating for about a month, 569 00:25:13,066 --> 00:25:14,433 and he's awesome. 570 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:15,467 He loves family. 571 00:25:15,467 --> 00:25:17,567 Family is the most important thing to him. 572 00:25:17,567 --> 00:25:19,734 He's owned his own drywall business. 573 00:25:19,734 --> 00:25:23,233 He has a reputation of being honest 574 00:25:23,233 --> 00:25:26,100 and real with people. 575 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:30,400 And he's really a great communicator. 576 00:25:31,934 --> 00:25:33,000 -Hi baby. -Hello. 577 00:25:33,066 --> 00:25:34,100 Come in. 578 00:25:36,567 --> 00:25:37,634 [kisses] 579 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:38,433 Hi. 580 00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:40,367 I would like you to meet David. 581 00:25:40,367 --> 00:25:42,100 Ta da! 582 00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:44,734 My boyfriend. Isn't that the dumbest word? 583 00:25:44,734 --> 00:25:47,133 -Boyfriend? -It's like we're adults, 584 00:25:47,133 --> 00:25:49,000 so I feel like love of my life. 585 00:25:49,066 --> 00:25:50,900 But that really is a lot but... 586 00:25:50,967 --> 00:25:51,734 This is David. 587 00:25:51,734 --> 00:25:52,800 [David speaking] 588 00:25:52,867 --> 00:25:53,567 Okay. 589 00:25:53,567 --> 00:25:55,467 That's probably inappropriate. 590 00:25:55,467 --> 00:25:57,066 [chuckles] 591 00:25:57,066 --> 00:25:58,000 [both] Soulmates. 592 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,800 -He's my yeah, definitely soulmate. -Yeah. 593 00:25:59,867 --> 00:26:00,734 -He's my-- -soulmate. 594 00:26:00,734 --> 00:26:02,567 -Yeah. -Unicorn. You're my unicorn. 595 00:26:02,567 --> 00:26:04,000 Yeah. Thanks, babe. 596 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,000 My name is David. 597 00:26:05,066 --> 00:26:07,433 I am from Salt Lake. 598 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:10,367 I have eight kids and my wife passed away 599 00:26:10,367 --> 00:26:11,500 about 12 years ago. 600 00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:14,467 I started dating and gave up about eight years into it. 601 00:26:14,467 --> 00:26:17,433 And then three years afterwards, 602 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:18,867 she messaged me 603 00:26:18,867 --> 00:26:20,834 on a mess... on a date site 604 00:26:20,834 --> 00:26:21,967 and here we are. 605 00:26:24,934 --> 00:26:26,367 [Christine] Third date I was like, 606 00:26:26,367 --> 00:26:29,000 "Are you gonna friend zone me?" [giggles] 607 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,467 You didn't kiss me and blah-blah-blah. 608 00:26:30,467 --> 00:26:31,467 Yeah, you're aggressive. 609 00:26:31,467 --> 00:26:33,967 Like, boom, we're out on a date... 610 00:26:33,967 --> 00:26:35,200 "Wanna kiss?" 611 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,100 Like you didn't kiss me on the second date. 612 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:40,867 Well, you were desperate for some affection. [laughs] 613 00:26:41,767 --> 00:26:43,367 [chuckles softly] I was, okay? 614 00:26:43,367 --> 00:26:45,467 Specifically from you, though. 615 00:26:45,467 --> 00:26:47,133 -Okay? -Yes. 616 00:26:53,233 --> 00:26:54,166 [David and Christine speaking] 617 00:26:59,233 --> 00:27:00,367 [Christine] And I'm like, "Well, what, 618 00:27:00,367 --> 00:27:01,667 I mean, you didn't kiss me on our first date." 619 00:27:01,667 --> 00:27:03,400 -So I'm like, you know... -No. 620 00:27:05,734 --> 00:27:09,533 Third date, it was a make out session. 621 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,600 -[chuckling] You don't need to go that far. -[laughing] 622 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,266 You're really, really special to me. 623 00:27:15,266 --> 00:27:16,867 I know, baby. 624 00:27:16,867 --> 00:27:21,166 Someone told me that when I least suspect I'll find that person. 625 00:27:21,166 --> 00:27:22,600 And they're so right. 626 00:27:25,066 --> 00:27:27,900 You, however, you were fast. 627 00:27:27,967 --> 00:27:29,367 [David giggling] 628 00:27:29,367 --> 00:27:31,100 Now, when you see something good, 629 00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:34,867 see how well you are with your kids, I love it. 630 00:27:34,867 --> 00:27:36,567 Everything about you. 631 00:27:36,567 --> 00:27:39,000 I like your craziness. 632 00:27:39,066 --> 00:27:40,367 I like everything about you. 633 00:27:40,367 --> 00:27:42,700 You're just-- You're perfect for me. 634 00:27:43,667 --> 00:27:45,667 Your eyes are what got me first. 635 00:27:45,667 --> 00:27:47,734 -I remember you saying that... -Oh no. 636 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,066 ...about the light in your eyes. 637 00:27:52,867 --> 00:27:54,600 [guitar music playing] 638 00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:04,433 What's going on with you? 639 00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:07,066 Oh, I'll be up in Parowan. 640 00:28:08,467 --> 00:28:10,367 So you're gonna move there and live there? 641 00:28:10,367 --> 00:28:13,200 Yeah. I am now. [laughs] 642 00:28:14,767 --> 00:28:16,667 I mean, we had that discussion 643 00:28:16,667 --> 00:28:18,900 about where our relationship is at. 644 00:28:18,967 --> 00:28:21,266 After you made it very clear that you weren't interested 645 00:28:21,266 --> 00:28:24,300 in working on a relationship with me... 646 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:27,667 Well, don't blame me for not loving you. 647 00:28:27,667 --> 00:28:29,367 I was doing my duty. 648 00:28:29,367 --> 00:28:32,266 Blame yourself if I don't love you, okay? 649 00:28:32,266 --> 00:28:34,667 When I'm in love with a woman... 650 00:28:34,667 --> 00:28:37,533 [laughs] ...that's her fault. 651 00:28:40,266 --> 00:28:43,734 So what happens if I'm not in love with a woman? 652 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,200 Is that just my fault? 653 00:28:46,233 --> 00:28:48,567 If I'm mad about woman, 654 00:28:48,567 --> 00:28:52,567 passionate, want to serve her, want to rub her feet, 655 00:28:52,567 --> 00:28:54,667 want to carry in her groceries? 656 00:28:54,667 --> 00:28:57,367 If I'm in-- If I want to buy her jewelry. 657 00:28:57,367 --> 00:29:00,266 If I want her to feel special, all the time. 658 00:29:00,266 --> 00:29:04,900 If I'm in love with a woman, I think that is her fault. 659 00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:07,533 I'm not placing blame. 660 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,433 All I did was acknowledge the fact 661 00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:11,367 that he told me he was not interested 662 00:29:11,367 --> 00:29:13,300 in working on a relationship. 663 00:29:13,367 --> 00:29:15,266 You want me to own it that much? 664 00:29:15,266 --> 00:29:17,166 -I'm not saying anything... -I didn't say I wasn't interested 665 00:29:17,166 --> 00:29:18,867 -in working on it. -...about owing anything. 666 00:29:18,867 --> 00:29:22,967 I did say I didn't want-- I could fake through it. 667 00:29:24,166 --> 00:29:26,567 Yeah. I'm not interested in faking in a relationship. 668 00:29:26,567 --> 00:29:28,734 That's not me saying, I can't work on it. 669 00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:30,567 You're trying to make me own it. 670 00:29:30,567 --> 00:29:33,233 -That's really not where-- -I didn't really know we were having a fight here. 671 00:29:33,233 --> 00:29:35,567 -I did not know that this is a fight conversation. -It's not. 672 00:29:35,567 --> 00:29:37,567 I'm not... I'm not open to that. 673 00:29:37,567 --> 00:29:39,934 -[Kody] It's not. -I'll shut it down right now. 674 00:29:39,934 --> 00:29:42,266 It's an accountability conversation... 675 00:29:42,266 --> 00:29:45,433 -Right. -...that we agreed mutually 676 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:47,467 that the relationship isn't going to progress. 677 00:29:47,467 --> 00:29:49,600 -You're right. We did. -Okay. 678 00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:55,467 You had a part in it, 679 00:29:55,467 --> 00:29:57,066 I had a part in it. 680 00:29:57,066 --> 00:29:59,867 I took the steps and we are done. 681 00:29:59,867 --> 00:30:03,000 Moving on? Moving forward together? 682 00:30:07,934 --> 00:30:10,600 -There's no moving forward together. -Right. 683 00:30:12,467 --> 00:30:13,634 Okay. 684 00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:15,066 I used to hang out with Meri and Kody 685 00:30:15,066 --> 00:30:17,367 before I even married Kody. 686 00:30:17,367 --> 00:30:20,433 And they always were just goofy together. 687 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:23,166 They had their arguments for sure. 688 00:30:23,166 --> 00:30:24,533 We were in it for the long haul. 689 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,233 We were figuring it out. 690 00:30:26,233 --> 00:30:28,000 And there was a lot of emotional growth, 691 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000 I think, that came from all of us trying to figure out 692 00:30:30,066 --> 00:30:31,567 how to work with family 693 00:30:31,567 --> 00:30:33,467 around all the different personalities. 694 00:30:33,467 --> 00:30:35,567 The breakdown of mine, and Kody's relationship 695 00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:37,100 is definitely not all on him. 696 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:39,467 Because I definitely had my part in it. 697 00:30:39,467 --> 00:30:45,567 And I don't think that he likes to see that he failed. 698 00:30:45,567 --> 00:30:47,166 But if you didn't want to fail, 699 00:30:47,166 --> 00:30:51,900 maybe you shouldn't have... married the wrong person. 700 00:30:51,967 --> 00:30:53,767 One or two or three times. 701 00:30:53,767 --> 00:30:55,133 Nobody won here. 702 00:30:58,834 --> 00:31:00,867 I never would have thought we would be here. 703 00:31:00,867 --> 00:31:02,166 Yeah, me either. 704 00:31:03,967 --> 00:31:07,467 I got a special phone call from a special person. 705 00:31:07,467 --> 00:31:09,033 I got a call from the church. 706 00:31:09,033 --> 00:31:10,967 They said they give Meri a release, 707 00:31:10,967 --> 00:31:13,100 a divorce on a account of abandonment, 708 00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:14,867 and I just don't believe that that's true at all. 709 00:31:14,867 --> 00:31:16,166 She was never abandoned. 710 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,266 He knew what was happening. 711 00:31:18,266 --> 00:31:19,867 He could have been involved. 712 00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:21,900 He could have gone to the meeting with me. 713 00:31:23,934 --> 00:31:27,367 [Meri] I know that they use the words abandonment. 714 00:31:27,367 --> 00:31:30,667 And he really didn't like that. 715 00:31:30,667 --> 00:31:35,400 Most people don't like what is truth. 716 00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:42,734 [Kody] Why did you move so quickly on it then? 717 00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:43,834 Quickly? 718 00:31:44,934 --> 00:31:47,900 It's interesting that you're saying that it's quickly. 719 00:31:47,967 --> 00:31:52,000 This has been a long, long, slow and painful process. 720 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,367 I married you in 1990 721 00:31:53,367 --> 00:31:56,834 because I was committed to it and I loved you. 722 00:31:56,834 --> 00:31:59,533 Basically, the statements are all of this. 723 00:32:01,166 --> 00:32:03,734 You can choose, but I cannot. 724 00:32:03,734 --> 00:32:05,467 I-- Who said that? 725 00:32:05,467 --> 00:32:08,533 -When I was called and told about our... -Termination? 726 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,066 Termination. 727 00:32:10,066 --> 00:32:12,433 That's bull [bleep]. 728 00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:15,867 -[Kody] Well... -That is so not fair to me. 729 00:32:15,867 --> 00:32:17,467 -And that is so not fair to you. -I agree. 730 00:32:17,467 --> 00:32:21,200 I would have rather, you have told me Kody, years ago. 731 00:32:22,266 --> 00:32:23,567 [Kody] I... I felt compelled 732 00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:25,066 to always stick it out with Meri, 733 00:32:25,066 --> 00:32:27,300 even though the relationship was terrible. 734 00:32:27,367 --> 00:32:28,834 I remember when Sonny and Cher 735 00:32:28,834 --> 00:32:30,700 got divorced when I was six... 736 00:32:31,667 --> 00:32:33,867 and it rattled me. 737 00:32:33,867 --> 00:32:38,533 I do not know why I'm still holding on 738 00:32:39,166 --> 00:32:40,000 a little bit. 739 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,667 Because I know damn well 740 00:32:43,667 --> 00:32:46,634 that I don't want to be in this relationship, 741 00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:50,800 and I know damn well that I don't want to be 742 00:32:50,867 --> 00:32:53,300 in a relationship with Janelle. 743 00:32:53,367 --> 00:32:57,467 And I know that Christine did me a favor 744 00:32:57,467 --> 00:33:01,066 by being brave enough to leave. 745 00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:08,000 Had I wanted to leave sooner, 746 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,800 I would have left sooner. 747 00:33:09,867 --> 00:33:11,767 You don't know you're in a bad relationship, 748 00:33:11,767 --> 00:33:13,900 you just think you're in a normal relationship. 749 00:33:13,967 --> 00:33:15,367 Some people call it F and F, 750 00:33:15,367 --> 00:33:17,066 and the second word is "Fight". 751 00:33:17,066 --> 00:33:21,000 That doesn't create intimacy that just creates orgasms. 752 00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:24,634 [instrumental music playing] 753 00:33:29,467 --> 00:33:32,634 [Meri] I'm not gonna offer him a lot of information. 754 00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:35,533 With me, with Christine, with Janelle, 755 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,233 you know they've left him. 756 00:33:37,233 --> 00:33:39,800 They've separated their relationships. 757 00:33:39,867 --> 00:33:41,900 Like, they're gonna have lives 758 00:33:41,967 --> 00:33:44,667 that he doesn't need to know about. 759 00:33:44,667 --> 00:33:47,000 I think that realization is gonna be 760 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,400 a little bit hard for him. 761 00:33:48,467 --> 00:33:50,533 [Kody] Listen, it's confusing from day one. 762 00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:53,467 -[Meri] That's sad to me that our-- -What do you mean? 763 00:33:53,467 --> 00:33:55,533 That our relationship was so confusing. 764 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,133 That our relationship was so confusing 765 00:33:57,133 --> 00:33:58,867 after the first year or the second year 766 00:33:58,867 --> 00:34:00,400 or the fourth year or whatever. 767 00:34:00,467 --> 00:34:02,967 I wish I wouldn't have ever married her. 768 00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:07,000 I married a woman 769 00:34:07,066 --> 00:34:10,700 that I just didn't love so much 770 00:34:11,367 --> 00:34:13,667 that I wanted to serve her. 771 00:34:13,667 --> 00:34:16,367 And then because whatever I did, 772 00:34:16,367 --> 00:34:18,166 was never enough! 773 00:34:21,767 --> 00:34:26,634 This marriage was on the rocks the entire marriage. 774 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,100 And how would I know that? 775 00:34:30,667 --> 00:34:34,367 Because I had such a better relationship 776 00:34:35,266 --> 00:34:39,600 with Janelle, with Christine, with Robyn. 777 00:34:40,266 --> 00:34:43,100 And Janelle and Christine didn't survive. 778 00:34:45,967 --> 00:34:48,100 I should have gotten out of the relationship 779 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:49,600 25 years ago. 780 00:34:50,867 --> 00:34:52,567 [Janelle] I don't know who this guy is. 781 00:34:52,567 --> 00:34:55,567 To say the things that he's saying now... 782 00:34:55,567 --> 00:34:59,133 this is not the guy that we were married to. 783 00:34:59,133 --> 00:35:02,133 I wish you would have made your choice sooner. 784 00:35:02,133 --> 00:35:04,367 [Meri] My choice was always to stay. 785 00:35:04,367 --> 00:35:08,900 Had I wanted to leave sooner, I would have left sooner. 786 00:35:09,834 --> 00:35:11,634 You don't get to be in plural marriage, 787 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:12,700 you know, with leadership. 788 00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:15,000 Leadership will never allow you to marry again 789 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,233 if you're discarding wives. 790 00:35:16,233 --> 00:35:20,400 Well, I... I was in terrible relationships 791 00:35:20,467 --> 00:35:22,066 but wasn't willing to discard them, 792 00:35:22,066 --> 00:35:23,100 didn't want to discard them, 793 00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:25,734 didn't even know I was in terrible relationships. 794 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,734 You don't know you're in a bad relationship. 795 00:35:27,734 --> 00:35:29,767 You just think you're in a normal relationship 796 00:35:29,767 --> 00:35:32,000 'cause all your friends have the same problem. 797 00:35:32,066 --> 00:35:34,367 Until you're in a normal relationship 798 00:35:34,367 --> 00:35:38,133 that has deep emotional intimacy 799 00:35:38,133 --> 00:35:39,300 instead of the... 800 00:35:41,567 --> 00:35:42,934 Some people call it F and F, 801 00:35:42,934 --> 00:35:44,500 and the second word is "Fight". 802 00:35:45,266 --> 00:35:47,700 Or F and F, and the first word is "Fight". 803 00:35:49,667 --> 00:35:51,100 That doesn't create intimacy. 804 00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:53,600 That just creates orgasms. 805 00:35:54,233 --> 00:35:55,467 [Kody] You know what really sucks? 806 00:35:55,467 --> 00:35:56,900 It's not divorce that sucks, 807 00:35:56,967 --> 00:35:58,734 it's marrying the wrong person. 808 00:35:58,734 --> 00:36:00,500 Because you don't know... 809 00:36:05,367 --> 00:36:06,900 [sighs in exasperation] 810 00:36:06,967 --> 00:36:07,834 [laughs sarcastically] 811 00:36:07,834 --> 00:36:09,567 Wow. Okay. 812 00:36:09,567 --> 00:36:11,734 Because you married me at six months, 813 00:36:11,734 --> 00:36:14,000 you married the wrong person and you just didn't know. 814 00:36:14,066 --> 00:36:15,266 I'm not even saying that, Meri. 815 00:36:15,266 --> 00:36:16,734 -That's what it sounds like. -[Kody] We're breaking up now. 816 00:36:16,734 --> 00:36:18,634 Does it mean it was the right person? 817 00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:20,233 Or was just right at the right time? 818 00:36:20,233 --> 00:36:22,467 I don't know. I can't philosophize this. 819 00:36:22,467 --> 00:36:24,467 We could philosophize it to death. 820 00:36:24,467 --> 00:36:26,934 -Yeah. -All I know is that you and I 821 00:36:26,934 --> 00:36:31,333 have different time stamps on when we weren't happy anymore. 822 00:36:31,333 --> 00:36:32,734 Mm-hmm. 823 00:36:32,734 --> 00:36:37,233 What sucks is... marrying the wrong person 824 00:36:37,233 --> 00:36:39,567 and not having the decency to tell her 825 00:36:39,567 --> 00:36:42,500 until 32 years later. 826 00:36:43,166 --> 00:36:46,133 [instrumental music playing] 827 00:36:51,467 --> 00:36:54,266 [Christine] I'm just excited to be with somebody. 828 00:36:54,266 --> 00:36:57,066 There's no threats of anybody else. 829 00:36:57,066 --> 00:36:58,567 It's just me. 830 00:36:58,567 --> 00:37:01,567 Isn't that weird to think of polygamy as a threat 831 00:37:01,567 --> 00:37:03,266 and the other women 832 00:37:03,266 --> 00:37:05,734 as a threat to your relationship? 833 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,567 Remember, how I told you my biggest thing 834 00:37:07,567 --> 00:37:10,300 on New Year's Eve was to have somebody to kiss 835 00:37:10,367 --> 00:37:11,333 because we all just did it together 836 00:37:11,333 --> 00:37:12,734 and you don't really have 837 00:37:12,734 --> 00:37:15,000 someone to kiss on New Year's Eve. 838 00:37:15,066 --> 00:37:17,100 Nothing wrong with being affectionate. 839 00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:18,734 Nothing wrong at all. 840 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,867 Like Kody and I never really were affect-- 841 00:37:20,867 --> 00:37:23,000 Even when we were just together, 842 00:37:23,066 --> 00:37:25,333 with the two of us, we really weren't that much-- 843 00:37:25,333 --> 00:37:27,333 Not like we are. [chuckles] 844 00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:30,300 -Not like we are. -[laughs] No, we're not at all. No. 845 00:37:30,367 --> 00:37:32,066 -[Christine] Oh my God. -[laughs] 846 00:37:32,066 --> 00:37:33,166 All the time. 847 00:37:33,166 --> 00:37:35,000 -Yeah. -I love it. Thank you. 848 00:37:35,066 --> 00:37:36,133 Thank you. 849 00:37:36,133 --> 00:37:38,266 I didn't know I liked being affectionate so much. 850 00:37:38,266 --> 00:37:40,734 I felt like Kody and Robyn were soulmates. 851 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,967 I feel like today they are soulmates. 852 00:37:43,967 --> 00:37:48,734 And just like last week, I realized, 853 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,800 oh, this is how soulmates feel. 854 00:37:52,667 --> 00:37:53,634 Okay. 855 00:37:53,634 --> 00:37:55,467 Now I know why Kody really wants to be over 856 00:37:55,467 --> 00:37:57,266 at Robyn's house all the time. 857 00:37:57,266 --> 00:37:58,367 This is how they feel. 858 00:37:58,367 --> 00:38:00,266 Of course, I would never wanna leave David. 859 00:38:00,266 --> 00:38:03,100 I would not wanna o stay somewhere else. 860 00:38:05,033 --> 00:38:07,934 If a polygamist were to find a soulmate, 861 00:38:07,934 --> 00:38:10,066 and have a soulmate relationship 862 00:38:10,066 --> 00:38:11,467 with one of their wives, 863 00:38:11,467 --> 00:38:12,834 I don't know what that looks like 864 00:38:12,834 --> 00:38:14,133 for their family. 865 00:38:14,133 --> 00:38:16,233 Because how can he have a good relationship 866 00:38:16,233 --> 00:38:18,233 with his other wives if he has 867 00:38:18,233 --> 00:38:20,900 a soulmate relationship with one of them? 868 00:38:21,834 --> 00:38:23,400 I really do care for you. 869 00:38:24,033 --> 00:38:25,367 You're a lot of fun. 870 00:38:25,367 --> 00:38:26,734 I'm excited. 871 00:38:27,867 --> 00:38:29,567 I'm a little nervous, a little scared 872 00:38:29,567 --> 00:38:31,567 about where it's going, but I'm good for it. 873 00:38:31,567 --> 00:38:33,867 -But I'm 100% on. -Me too. 874 00:38:33,867 --> 00:38:35,600 Because you're too good to be true. 875 00:38:36,867 --> 00:38:39,567 -Same. It's a little scary. -Yeah. 876 00:38:39,567 --> 00:38:41,734 It's a little scary because you're too good to be true. 877 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,533 It's because it's too good to be true, right? 878 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,367 -[David] Yes. -That's why it's scary. 879 00:38:45,367 --> 00:38:48,033 -[David] Yep. -How can we be soulmates 880 00:38:48,033 --> 00:38:49,467 so fast? 881 00:38:49,467 --> 00:38:50,600 We just clicked. 882 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,734 -It was just something there. -[Christine] It's scary. 883 00:38:51,734 --> 00:38:53,834 It was just-- I knew it was... 884 00:38:53,834 --> 00:38:58,200 I knew it was real, you know, the second time I've seen you. 885 00:38:59,233 --> 00:39:00,834 I really care a lot about you. 886 00:39:00,834 --> 00:39:02,300 God, I love you. 887 00:39:02,367 --> 00:39:05,100 So I'm excited to where this is gonna be going to. 888 00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,500 -[giggles] -I'm really excited. 889 00:39:08,066 --> 00:39:09,800 We are moving fast, 890 00:39:09,867 --> 00:39:11,900 but we're not going to slow down. 891 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,266 [laughs] 892 00:39:14,266 --> 00:39:16,100 [instrumental music playing] 893 00:39:20,066 --> 00:39:21,900 [Meri] I am in a really good place. 894 00:39:23,166 --> 00:39:28,000 I feel very peaceful about our situation. 895 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,467 He doesn't. 896 00:39:29,467 --> 00:39:32,000 Some of the things that he's saying are 897 00:39:32,934 --> 00:39:34,700 really, really, really mean. 898 00:39:35,367 --> 00:39:39,367 He clearly has a lot of internal 899 00:39:39,367 --> 00:39:42,834 that he still needs to work on here. 900 00:39:42,834 --> 00:39:47,600 Where we are now is I actually like you. [giggles] 901 00:39:48,467 --> 00:39:50,734 [scoffs] Gods be praised. 902 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,467 Well, I didn't for six years at all. 903 00:39:54,467 --> 00:39:56,100 I was trying to be-- 904 00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,734 I think it was more than that. 905 00:39:57,734 --> 00:39:58,934 Be honest with yourself. 906 00:39:58,934 --> 00:40:01,333 No, I was just-- I don't even know. 907 00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:02,800 But it's like move, 908 00:40:02,867 --> 00:40:03,800 move from that point 909 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,233 to get to the right place. I have no idea. 910 00:40:07,233 --> 00:40:09,967 I'm not gonna go hang out at Christmas. 911 00:40:11,467 --> 00:40:14,300 I'm not your wife anymore. 912 00:40:14,367 --> 00:40:17,333 I do have wife who says that Meri is our family, 913 00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:20,233 and you need to have her come over for Christmas. 914 00:40:25,867 --> 00:40:28,400 I normally just disregard her opinion. 915 00:40:29,166 --> 00:40:31,000 No, you don't. [laughs] 916 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,900 Oh yes, I do. 917 00:40:32,967 --> 00:40:34,333 [laughs] 918 00:40:34,333 --> 00:40:36,634 Really? You don't know me If you think that 919 00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:38,867 I'm not a man of my own mind. 920 00:40:38,867 --> 00:40:40,567 I know you're a man of your own mind. 921 00:40:40,567 --> 00:40:42,100 I also know you take 922 00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:44,266 into consideration people's opinions. 923 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,233 Oh, I don't know how we define ourselves 924 00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:48,634 with each other from here. 925 00:40:49,367 --> 00:40:51,133 We're exes. 926 00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:52,567 Let's be real. 927 00:40:52,567 --> 00:40:54,266 You don't need to worry about me. 928 00:40:57,834 --> 00:40:59,300 [Kody] Okay. 929 00:40:59,367 --> 00:41:01,467 I just wish you knew how amazing 930 00:41:01,467 --> 00:41:03,000 of a person I really am. 931 00:41:06,467 --> 00:41:09,634 I don't want any more enemies, and I don't want another loss. 932 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,934 I mean, 933 00:41:11,934 --> 00:41:12,934 bon voyage. 934 00:41:12,934 --> 00:41:15,000 I just-- Happy life, happy journey. 935 00:41:15,066 --> 00:41:17,834 I don't know what to say besides that, Meri. 936 00:41:17,834 --> 00:41:20,467 I just hope that in the future Meri will call me 937 00:41:20,467 --> 00:41:22,800 when she's got something fun to share. 938 00:41:22,867 --> 00:41:23,734 I am embarrassed 939 00:41:23,734 --> 00:41:29,900 that my other divorces have created... 940 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,333 contempt and contemptuous enemies. 941 00:41:36,333 --> 00:41:38,133 Yeah, I'm sad about that. 942 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,834 We'll see. 943 00:41:40,834 --> 00:41:42,867 I just do not know what the future holds here. 944 00:41:45,266 --> 00:41:47,734 [Kody reading] 945 00:41:47,734 --> 00:41:49,734 So when we married in our church, 946 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,567 it's not a big deal. 947 00:41:50,567 --> 00:41:52,567 Like I didn't even have a dress. 948 00:41:52,567 --> 00:41:55,033 [Robyn] My wedding day 949 00:41:55,033 --> 00:41:57,567 and my reception was not about me. 950 00:41:57,567 --> 00:41:59,767 [man] And... stop. Perfect! 951 00:41:59,767 --> 00:42:01,266 He said what he wanted to do 952 00:42:01,266 --> 00:42:03,333 -and he'd done it. -Well, he's so amazing. [laughs] 953 00:42:03,333 --> 00:42:05,300 We're gonna grow up now 954 00:42:05,367 --> 00:42:07,300 and put on a smiley face. 955 00:42:07,367 --> 00:42:08,033 Okay. Well, great. 956 00:42:08,033 --> 00:42:10,000 I hear you guys are engaged? 957 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,333 Not engaged yet. 958 00:42:11,333 --> 00:42:13,367 Argh! It's the end of January. 959 00:42:13,367 --> 00:42:14,967 We met the beginning of December. 960 00:42:14,967 --> 00:42:17,533 [Ysabel] It is moving extremely fast, 961 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,467 faster than I think I would like. 962 00:42:20,467 --> 00:42:22,667 That would be so cool to have a wedding here. 963 00:42:22,667 --> 00:42:24,133 Done. 964 00:42:24,133 --> 00:42:25,967 [Ysabel] Oh my gosh! 965 00:42:25,967 --> 00:42:27,867 It makes me just a little bit uncomfortable.