[narrator] Previously on Sister Wives...
[Christine] Oh, my God! [laughs]
I've never felt like this before.
Never been this much in love either.
I never loved Kody as much as I loved David.
-We're getting married! -[all cheering]
Been like, what? Two days? Three days maybe?
I want to start dating guys
who kind of believe the same thing
and have the same, like, life goal as me.
They're interested in dating, you know,
a guy that is, has similar beliefs.
But I'm like, "Hey, that's not--
shouldn't be the reason why you're at a church."
They don't have any churches around here
that will blame plural marriage.
I don't have the same call to it.
I even hear it now,
like, you probably would do one more chance.
There's a point where they don't deserve the chances.
[Meri] It was a good time with him.
It was.
But now we're done.
[sighs] Cheers to that.
[theme music playing]
It's nice to go on a date and we're going on one.
I like to connect with this woman.
-Okay. You guys all good? -[Aurora] Yeah.
You're good? All right.
Okay. So, you're always good.
When you have kids at home, especially little kids,
um, it's not always easy to go out on a date.
The girls are very busy with college and,
you know, it's like, you got homework,
you got bedtime, you got dinner.
-Bye. -[Kody] All right, bye. I love you.
-Thank you. -[Robyn] Bye, guys.
-[Kody] See ya. -[Robyn] Bye,
So, when I take her out,
I hope she doesn't feel pressure.
But I'm like, "Oh, I've finally got her all to myself.
There's so much I wanna talk about."
Let me get your chair, Robyn.
[Robyn] Okay.
Aurora and Breanna came to me and asked me
about, like, trying to help them find a church.
They're just ready for that step in their lives.
So, I need to kinda talk to Kody and
fill him out to see what he thinks.
We're gonna have an engagement party.
It's just another reason to all get together
and have our kids really mingle with each other.
I definitely did not have an engagement party when I married Kody.
It's so weird.
In a church that celebrates plural marriage,
they don't celebrate the weddings of plural wives.
-[Hunter] Well, he wants my cup... -Coochie choochie!
[Hunter] ...but I'm gonna trade him for it.
Then maybe it's because it's a whole society in secrecy.
So, the plural marriages get swept under, you know...
[whispers]
-I didn't tell you I was coming. -[Aspyn] Oh, yeah? [laughs]
-You look amazing, Mama. -[Janelle] All right.
Christine is having so much fun,
she's doing all the things right.
All the things associated with getting married.
It's gonna be a really quick trip.
I'm going home tomorrow but I'm gonna be here.
Janelle, I like your dress.
-[Ysabel] You look incredible. -That's awesome, hey.
[Ysabel] Incredible.
-Um, I'm trying to, to branch out. -I love it, it's so cute.
Yeah, I didn't have an engagement party when I married Kody.
It wasn't really a big deal.
Like we, it just wasn't something we really did.
Hey.
Look at your pink dress.
[Janelle] I did it. I wore it.
[Christine] Oh, my God, hi.
Janelle and Hunter are here.
That they would come so far
to just come to an engagement party means a lot.
We have this, you know, bit of a messed up family right now.
So, having things that we do together is really important.
We'll make sure you guys get food.
The birria tacos with the consomme are where it's at.
-Okay. -And the street corn.
Mom's now engaged.
We're extremely happy for her.
She's been engaged for two seconds,
she's been dating him for 10 seconds,
but we're all very happy for her.
-You look so beautiful in white. -[Christine] Thanks, sister.
-Thank you. I know 'cause I'm the bride. -Oh, my.
I've been noticing Christine's wearing white more and more.
But it's tacos, so I'm not sure how that's gonna go.
But you know, she doesn't have to, she can be careful.
I bet-- Nobody's betting me yet.
Five bucks, she'll get something on that dress.
-All in, five... -You wanna take that bet?
[all laughing]
[Christine] Why are you betting against me?
He's rubbish.
David just loves to push buttons.
Mykelti and David are so similar.
I'm basically marrying my daughter.
It's awesome.
Oh, my gosh, I'm so excited.
I'm not getting the dipping sauce tonight, sadly enough.
I would spill all of my--
But I brought a white backup dress.
Our kids have meshed really well together.
They're doing fantastic.
Mykelti's always like, "Why are you guys breaking up into,
to like different sections? I don't like this."
So, she makes sure everybody gets together.
And then his daughter Gray does the same thing.
David and my kids,
that relationship is going really, really well.
My relationship with David's kids is going well.
He has some amazing children.
Amazing people.
Oh, the tacos are so good
and there's this dipping consomme sauce.
And I knew I shouldn't.
I knew I shouldn't dip it,
but it's so good with the dipping sauce.
Damn it! I did it, [bleep].
And I dipped it, and first bite,
boom shakalaka.
I'm that person
even though I wear very boring colors,
I always have one of those stain pens in my purse.
I'm messy regardless of what color.
And so, I know that I need one of those all the time with me.
With you?
I think so. Hang on.
-I've been trying to travel with them. -If she doesn't, Ysabel might.
I have a beef broth on my white dress.
And David's not here right now.
So, I have an opportunity to get rid of this spot
before he comes back.
And I'm like, "Janelle!"
Before David comes, he's betting against me. Ass [bleep].
-No. Now. No, no. -[Mykelti] Dav-- David.
Janelle, rush.
I start scrubbing it and Mykelti saw.
And Mykelti looks over and she's like, "David,"
getting him to come over faster.
And I'm scrubbing it.
-No. -[Janelle] I got you.
[Janelle laughs]
I won myself 5 bucks.
Thank you. Thank you.
And he wasn't even casual about it.
He just basically was excited to win $5.
-[Janelle] Oh. -[David laughs]
[Janelle] It's not been used, you might have to kind of...
-I got 5 bucks. -[Janelle] ...wake it up.
I remember telling my brother.
One time, we were watching a ridiculous show
where it was love at first sight.
And I just told him, I said, "It's not like that.
There's no such thing as love like that."
Love happens over time. It can also be a spark.
[clicks tongue]
I mean, I knew I loved Kody, and I was in love with Kody.
But how I feel about David is so astronomically deeper.
[Hunter] Already?
-Shut up. -[Hunter laughs]
-I had-- Didn't I tell you? -[Hunter] Oh, I was--
-Didn't I tell you? 5 bucks? -[all laughing]
That shrimp looks amazing.
-[Christine] This was the problem. -Take the shrimp then.
Well, I know, I wanna take the shrimp.
-That's the best part. -[Christine] I'm already red.
-I'm already dirty, so might as well eat it now. -Oh, whoa.
Can I have a bite of it? Can I try that?
Thank you. I'm just gonna come over and eat all your guys' food.
[David] No, this family likes to share food.
-Yeah. -I never share food in my life
-till I met you guys. -[Hunter] Wait, really?
David, I didn't take you for a stingy guy,
but I-- you know...
-[all laughing] -[Christine] Oh.
I love it.
Like, how can you never share your food?
There's so many good flavors at the table.
[David] Thank you.
I got-- I gotta go over here.
[laughs]
Look. Did you see the cake?
[Christine and David laugh]
Crucial thing that I've learned with David
is he really wants to be involved with everything.
I could ask Kody after the fact.
But with David, no, he prefers to be in on the plan.
He just really cares and he's really invested,
and it's his wedding too.
Are you gonna-- Are gonna eat that piece?
-And David... -Yeah, I'm gonna eat David's face.
[David] That's cool, I like that.
I'm watching Christine
and she's having her own adventure,
the one she wanted, it's awesome.
You have to-- You have to practice.
-What? [squeals] -You have to practice cake cutting.
-Cutting into our faces? -[Aspyn] Yes.
-Well, you can cut the cake. -[Christine] Yes.
-[Aspyn] Okay, perfect. -[Christine laughs]
-They have to practice. -Yeah, before the wedding.
-Thank you, Aspyn. -[Aspyn] Why can't they do it?
This is beautiful.
Okay.
Wow, she just cut our heads off.
-[all laughing] -[David] Oh. Oh, oh.
So much work went into this picture,
and I just cut into it.
-Oh, my. -No, I'll eat--
You eat mine, I'll eat yours.
[Aspyn] Yeah. There you go.
[laughs] You eat her mouth?
You're eating my mouth?
I'm also gonna eat your mouth.
-[Mykelti] Nice. -[Aspyn] Nice, there you go.
Look how big her mouth is.
-[Aspyn] How is it? How is it? -[Christine] Mmm.
-[all cheering] -It's good.
[Christine] It's delicious.
-[Aspyn] Okay, good. Good. -Well done.
So, David and I have only known each other for, like, nine months.
And so, there's so many things that we don't really know about each other
and we're planning a wedding together.
If we're gonna-- It's like a crash course.
It's a crash course and getting to know somebody, planning a wedding together.
Nice to be on a date.
So, I wanted to talk to you about something.
No, I think that I probably did most of my crying
-in the decade prior to divorce. -Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
-It's like, false hope, false hope, false hope. -The cheating.
-I'm just kidding, all the cheating. -[all laugh]
So, I am dragging,
kicking and screaming Jenn down to Las Vegas,
and we are gonna go see our good friend Brandi.
-So, ready? Are you excited? -I'm so excited.
[Meri] Listen, you're gonna be excited, homie.
-You're gonna be happy you're gonna smile about this. -So excited. Yes.
[Meri] Yay!
-I'm so excited to go to... -[Meri] So excited to go to hell.
Jenn doesn't like Vegas,
because there's a lot of people and it's hot.
And I think it's hilarious
because she lived there for so many years of her life.
Jenn and I met while she and I were both living in Las Vegas.
[Jenn] Well, look what I bought.
[Meri laughs]
Jenn does not like the heat.
You know those eye masks that you freeze
and just use 'em as chichi chillers?
We should go break into your old neighborhood.
Oh, it's completely breaking in.
That's a gated community.
-Well, we wouldn't be the first person... -I don't wanna see it.
-...who's ever broken into that community. -Wait a second.
Maybe it would be good for me to see it.
Like, it's closure.
-[Meri] Hello. -[Brandi laughing] Oh.
[all laughing]
-[Meri] Hi. -Hi.
[Meri] Oh.
So good to see you.
-You're hot. -[Meri] Look at you, so are you.
-[Brandi] No, but you're warm. -[Jenn] Hi.
We're all hot.
-Are you gonna sit with us? -We went to a grocery store on the way over here.
-Sit right there. -And I was telling Meri
that we should go by her old house.
-[Brandi] Ooh. -[Meri] Like, full circle.
The last time I was in Las Vegas, it was really painful.
But I'm thinking hanging out with Brandi and the three of us,
I think will be really good
to create some new memories about Las Vegas,
and I think that's what I really need to do,
'cause I do love Las Vegas.
[Jenn] She really freaked out.
There was one day... [clears throat]
that I referred to Kody as her ex,
and she-- and then she, like, wasn't paying attention.
She said something about her ex,
and she was like, "Whoa."
That's when it hit you?
-Yeah, I was like, "Oh. -Did you cry?
-It's an ex." No, I didn't. -[Jenn] No.
When I referred to him as my ex, it was really weird.
It kinda hit me kind of hard.
No, I think that I probably did
most of my crying in the decade
-prior to the actual divorce. -Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
There was definitely a lot of tears during those years.
-It's like false hope, false hope, false hope. -The cheating.
-I'm just kidding, all the cheating. -[all laughing]
She was aware.
No, like the fault like...
'Cause there was, like, times where he'd tell her,
-"If you do these things... -[Brandi] Yeah.
...then we can work on our relationship."
Yeah, no, I, I remember many, many misleading conversations.
Kody basically had a list for me to do
before we would start working on our relationship.
So, I'm excited to be here. Holy cow.
-I know it's nice, right? Being here. -[Kody] Yes.
Nice to be on a date.
[Robyn laughs]
All of our experience with family who has moved on,
that brings a lot of pain into our lives,
and we're just, just removing that from plate right now
and connecting with each other.
So, I wanted to talk to you about something
when we don't have two little children running and interrupting us.
Recently, the girls have been sort of expressing--
Aurora and Breanna have been expressing
an interest in going to church.
And, like, we don't have a church to go to.
The girls are really just wanting to be able to attend church,
uh, kind of get a,
a church community that they can interact with
and then just be able to learn more
and find their, uh, their path,
their religious or spiritual path.
But it's more than just going to church.
They're, they're sort of in this place
where they want to look for a church to be a part of.
-Mmm-hmm. -They have asked me to kind of help them,
or facilitate or sort of be a part of the situation...
-[Kody] Mmm-hmm. -...and, like, go with them to different churches.
Me and you both or just you?
I think Robyn's the most comfortable person with--
for any of my children to speak with.
Like, listen, I talk about religion with my children all the time.
We've talked about it a little bit.
But Robyn specifically,
they're coming to her saying, "We wanna do this, what do you think?"
[Robyn] I asked them both,
"Are you interested in our church?"
And they kind of said, Aurora said, "No."
-And Breanna said, "Probably not." -[Kody] Mmm-hmm.
Our church was literally kind of an ex-communication of people
who used to be members of the LDS Church
or who had affiliation with that.
However, they, they, they had this doctrine of plural marriage
where it is required by commandment
for any of those who want to progress through eternity.
I wouldn't really have a problem
with any of my kids going into plural marriage,
even though I would be warning them of some red flags.
Going back to our old religion, um,
I don't think I'd be very fond of them doing that.
[Robyn] Also they are finding that it's hard to,
like, find guys to date that have sort of similar values as them.
I have some, some, uh, questions.
I got mixed reactions to this.
My first reaction that I know is the right reaction is great.
I'm glad they're gonna do this.
But I have my own almost phobias
of religion or churches.
So, you have some, like, apprehension, then?
-Yeah. Okay, here's the thing. -[Robyn] So, what is--
So, you're worried about what exactly?
I, uh, I'm just-- I don't know. I got some concerns.
I'm really glad that they wanna go on this journey that they're going to go on.
And I have all my own anxieties and fears and struggles here
that I have to keep from poisoning in any way their experience.
As long as I can steer 'em clear of, uh,
of any culty-like churches, I'll be okay.
After, like, it was done,
like, it was done, done, done,
and I said, "Kody, you have no interest
in, like, having a relationship with me."
It's like, "No, you said you didn't wanna be married to me.
So, why do--
Why should I stick around for another 10 years, dumbass?"
-Did I tell you? -[Brandi] What?
After, like, it was done...
Not long after I had been up in Utah
and actually had that spiritual release from the church leaders.
...like within the week, he goes,
"Why'd you do it so fast?"
-[chuckles softly] -[Meri laughs]
-He said that? -[Meri] Yeah.
He's like, "I don't understand why you did it so fast.
Do you have a guy on the side waiting?"
What was the context? Like, I mean, how...
-He didn't understand why I-- -[Brandi] That doesn't--
That question does not even make sense.
I said, "Really? You think that that was really fast?
And no, how insulting."
I said, "Kody, you have no interest in
me-- like, having a relationship with me,
-having a husband-wife relationship with me." -Yeah.
What else are we supposed to do?
-This is the only other option. -[Brandi] Yeah.
It's like, "No, you said you didn't wanna be married to me. So, why do--
Why should I stick around for another 10 years, dumbass?"
I texted him after.
-Like, when I was on my way home from Utah. -[Brandi] Mmm-hmm?
-I texted him. -[Brandi] Mmm-hmm?
And he called me within 20 minutes.
-Oh, my gosh. -[Meri] It was a good text.
-I read it to you. -Yeah.
-It was a good text. -It was.
-It was like... -Do you wanna hear it?
-Yeah, I do. -Okay.
I don't know why I go out of my way to be nice
when he's so flippantly and comfortably talk [bleep] about me.
I said this on my way back.
"Hi, Kody, just wanted to follow up
from the text I sent a couple weeks ago.
Just wanted to let you know that I had a conversation
with the leadership in Utah today,
and the official release was granted."
When Kody and I got married,
it was like one ceremony
that covered the legal and the spiritual marriage.
And so, now doing the legal divorce,
it, like, it was really a mind game on me
because I felt like emotionally,
that I was signing away the marriage.
I know you want a big hug.
[Meri] No, I'm sorry.
I'm just holding on to you.
"Co-petitioners are incompatible in marriage."
That's why it was so crazy for me,
because it was like...
But I know it's only the legal part.
The spiritual part is still intact.
"I'm brokenhearted that our life came to this.
I will always love and respect you.
Thank you for many years of joy.
I hope you truly will have peace now,
and I release you from any responsibility or worry about me.
I got this."
You're like, "Thank you for your service.
-We're do--" -[all laughing]
[Brandi] I'm so sorry. Whoops.
-And... And a lot of service. -[all laughing]
It is what it is with Brandi and she's just gonna say.
I love that about her, I do. [laughs]
Religion comes with a lot of pressure,
and I've been spending a lot of time losing my religion,
while I've been finding my faith.
When I met Kody,
he was very much involved in our church,
and from my understanding, he was happy in our church.
Um, I mean, I wouldn't have probably considered marrying him
if I didn't think he was.
Us going public, I think, really...
uh, the way that our church reacted to that
really kind of threw him off,
and it made him feel just like, "Wait, what the heck?"
Our church leaders were mad when we went public.
They didn't get it. Family didn't get it. Friends didn't get it.
No one got it. And we're like,
"We're done living in fear. We're done living like...
having other people think the worst of us
just because we're a polygamist family.
They think all these things about us that aren't true."
We thought everybody would be on board.
Yeah, they weren't. [chuckles]
Some of them were like,
"Gonna be the demise of your family," [chuckles]
which is kind of funny. Like...
It's not funny at all, actually.
I found that my faith started to contradict
the religionists attitudes, sort of, the...
the... the gatekeepers.
My church was trying to put me in, uh,
kind of a teaching leadership position.
They saw my hair as rebellious.
"So, Kody, you need to cut your hair."
Don't tell me to do things that aren't required by the law or by God.
I don't wanna 'em getting into something
that turns out to be kind of culty.
So you can lose your children to a bad marriage.
You can lose your children
to just huge disagreements between the two of you.
You can lose your children in a divorce.
Or you can lose your children to a cult. [chuckles softly]
-I'm safe for them, right? -[Robyn] Absolutely.
Okay, the reason I'm asking that
is 'cause we're not having those discussions.
I don't know for sure,
But I think, um,
religion is a really intense...
-topic for you. -[Kody laughing]
You get a little intense.
Okay!
He's intimidating.
I don't think he realizes it, though.
[chuckling] I don't know.
I did talk to my dad about religion beforehand.
Just asking questions generally and stuff like that.
Between my mom and my dad,
they have different strengths
and the way that they process things and communicate things.
He's gonna give, like, an unfiltered response,
which I really appreciate about him.
I could be wrong...
that... if I had to guess...
So they brought it up with you
-so that I wouldn't go, going off on... -[Robyn] I don't know.
Teeing off on some lecture about.
I don't know.
You cannot just be conforming to everybody else
'cause then you're really not developing real faith.
Find some Buddhism, find some...
find some Jesus. Either way,
I want them to have experience...
that helps love grow in them.
-They need to go experience this for themselves. -[Kody] Right.
The idea of trying to, like, encourage them
or pressure them into to our church,
I just didn't see that as something that was important or...
When I saw parents doing that with their kids,
I was like, "Okay, this is messed up."
They need to find their own way.
And you would be the type to go...
-like-- -[Kody] I already know.
When I'm holding my scriptures on my lap,
and that preacher is gonna be saying something, I'm gonna be in...
-I'm going to be looking... -[Robyn] And you're at--
...for whether he's right or if he's wrong...
-in the scriptures. -[Robyn] And everybody in the room
is going to know whether or not you agree.
When I was conflicted in my religion, I loved it
'cause it drove me to my knees in prayer for understanding.
And I don't know where that got me.
But you know what it did get me,
is a relationship in my prayers with God.
So if my children come to me confused,
about religion or the things that are being taught,
I believe, from my experience,
I will be happy that they're having
any kind of challenging experience
'cause...
they'll learn to talk to God,
I think, I hope. That's my prayer.
Something I need to do is figure out how to,
sort of, ride in the back seat on this experience,
-and let them find their way, I think. -[Robyn] Yeah.
One of the things I did tease 'em about,
and I said, "I don't want you to choose
a church or a community
based on good-looking guys."
But it was just kind of like, "I want you to...
like, really take it seriously based on..."
Well, I'd be perfectly fine with one of my daughters
going to church at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
for a cute boy.
I wouldn't.
I don't want our children to do it
just based on a cute kid,
a cute boy there.
If you get a boy that's very devout to his church,
and she's just there for him,
that's for the wrong reasons.
They might find a community
that gives them a social outlet...
people to actually associate with, even date.
All I am is a knight...
with a sword.
I mean, like, I'm here to protect you,
but because I played king
with some of my other daughters,
I got... put aside.
My close-mindedness caused me a lot of...
uh, heartache.
I mean, I did love him.
I do love him.
I just... I just can't...
I'm not, you know, I just wasn't willing to do that anymore.
The reason why I stayed so long was
purely because of me and my commitment.
There's a lot of men interested in Robyn,
and they were, sort of, trying to get around me
and to her.
I want to know that God has been my wingman with you
and that nobody can take you away.
Oh, what did he say when he called you?
He was kind of upset
um, during that phone call.
Like, he started getting really defensive, like, a few times.
-And I said, "Kody, I'm not gonna do this." -[Brandi] Uh-huh.
Like, "We're where we are.
-It's done." -[Brandi] Mmm-hmm.
"There's no reason to get defensive."
I think that Kody was expecting me...
to be different than what I was.
He probably expected me to be snarky,
and mean or crying or whatever.
I've seen the last couple of years.
I've seen him,
and a couple of exes
not necessarily being on their best behavior.
All three of them, I have watched them.
And...
I haven't been impressed.
We can all do a little bit better.
I mean, you know,
it'd be nice if we didn't all know
what we thought about the other person.
When you've got three wives
that leave one guy,
it is gonna be a mess.
You know, during the split with Kody,
I tried to always be
very practical, very logical,
but definitely stand up for myself.
And I'm sorry if some people thought that
that was rude or wrong,
but I'm just standing up for myself.
I'm not trying to be vindictive.
I'm just standing up for myself and for my kids.
I don't know why he cares. He doesn't even...
-[Meri] I don't either. -...participate in that...
-anyway. -[Jenn] It was... it was a control thing, I think.
-Yeah. You're right. -Like, he had no control...
-Yeah. -...over her finally ending it.
I really feel like that was a big part of it.
[Brandi] You're totally right. I'm sure.
There was a couple of times in that conversation
that I shut him down.
I'm like, "I'm not gonna listen to you talk to me that way.
I'm not talking to you that way.
And I don't deserve it back from you."
You were, like Stockholm syndrome.
-Mmm. -[Brandi] You know?
-Yeah. -You were, like, stuck with your...
falling in love with your captor
that won't let you...
-[all chuckling] -...have a life.
Brandi doesn't even know who I am.
I went to dinner with her a couple times,
helped her and her husband move once.
Do they know me?
Meri doesn't need to trash-talk me anymore.
She's got her friends doing it for her.
Friends that don't know me.
Brandi and her husband, Tim,
and Kody and I used to go out
on double dates together quite often.
Jenn's been around since we lived in the rentals.
That's when we met her.
So the narrative that they don't know him
or he doesn't know them or,
you know, like, is really inaccurate.
I mean, I did love him.
I do love him.
-[Brandi] Of course. -I just... I just can't.
I'm not...
You know, I just wasn't willing to do that anymore.
It definitely wasn't Stockholm syndrome.
I mean, it's kind of funny to laugh about it.
Like, I committed that...
you know, we were gonna work it out,
like, good times, bad times, whatever.
We were gonna make it work.
The reason why I stayed so long
was purely because of me
and my commitment.
So, do we need to do any cleanup on our relationship,
-or are we just talking religion for our girls? -[Robyn] Well...
Well, I wanted to make sure that, like...
that you're cool with...
Like, I want to go to church.
-[Kody] Yeah. -I just need it. I mean...
We don't have our church nearby,
but I don't think
that that's even something you would ever... [chuckles softly]
-Okay, so... -For me, that's not a safe place.
Most religion says you've got to stick to this doctrine,
and if you don't, then you're an apostate,
you're evil, you're... God can't accept you.
Tell me that I have to cut my hair.
I mean, give me a break.
I mean, you're all disciples of Brigham Young,
and he had long hair and a long beard.
Please!
I know that Kody has, uh...
not very positive, um,
attitudes and opinions about our church.
So I was just kind of like, "Yeah, I know you don't..."
[chuckles] "I know. I know!"
[chuckling] I've heard a lot.
Are you okay with them going to church, then?
Yeah. Absolutely.
[Robyn] And you're okay with me going to church?
Like, you're not gonna have some sort of problem with them?
-Yeah, as long as you guys aren't... -[Robyn] I made a choice--
...blocking me out. Like, I wanna come,
sooner or later.
Mmm... okay.
-That's why I wasn't sure... -[Kody] Yeah.
...if you were interested in that or not.
Well, you don't wanna go too long without me
'cause I don't want some guy thinking you're a single mom.
There's a lot of men interested in Robyn,
and they were, sort of, trying
to get around me and to her.
-Yeah, 'cause the first time I saw you in our church... -Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
-...we made that gaze... -[chuckles]
-[Kody] ...that connection. -No.
I made that... [chuckles]
[Kody] Oh, no, no, no, no.
I looked longer. By the time you looked away,
I actually said, "That was probably inappropriate.
She is most likely married."
First time I saw Robyn,
the first time I ever laid eyes on her,
uh, I was...
leaning over the back of a chair,
talking to a... a neighbor behind me,
and we locked eyes.
And I...
couldn't break away.
And what happened to you,
uh, at that time? I just want to know.
[chuckling] You want to hear it.
You like hearing this, don't you?
I want to know that God has been my wingman with you
and that nobody can take you away.
I was sitting there with my cousin.
I was looking around.
I looked at you for a while,
and the thing that caught my eye, as far as seeing you,
was your laugh lines 'cause I love laugh lines.
And then, um, you looked at me
and a bolt of lightning shot through my body.
-[chuckling] -[mouthing]
I saw Kody for the first time at church,
and then I got my lightning bolt.
And a month later, randomly,
I met Kody and Meri on my cousin's lawn.
I don't want some guy doing that,
looking at you and going...
holding your gaze,
Like, yeah, I'm mate guarding now.
I am protecting...
-...the pride. -I just have to say,
I'm married.
Let me see that rock.
-[Robyn chuckling] -I wanna see it.
I wanna see it.
[Robyn] I'll wear it. You don't need to worry.
I just wanted to make sure that bling was big enough.
-The guys would stay away from you. -[Robyn chuckling]
[chuckling] Oh, my gosh.
Even though I've got some anxieties about it,
I feel like I'm pretty open-minded.
We don't know what's gonna happen.
It's part of the adventure of life.
I trust God enough to...
sort of...
lead us where we should go.
Okay, I can't. I just... You're gonna have to just tell her
-because I'm gonna throw my damn cup through the wall. -[chuckles]
Like... I get so frustrated...
-with like... -About, like, our breakup conversation?
[Jenn] About...
-about what he said in front of Nathan and Rebecca. -Flagstaff property?
I don't know. I used to, um, defend him...
-when people would say... -[Meri] Mmm.
..."Oh, he's such a..."
I'm like, "No, he's nice."
[Meri] "He's cool."
He helped...
move me up here.
-It was on what would have been our 33rd anniversary. -That's right.
Like, it was cool. It was fun.
I mean, it was a good day.
It was so emotional.
He was, like, full-on breakdown.
Like, it was very... and it felt very strong.
We have permission to move on.
[sniffles]
At the time, I was like, "How is this possible?"
Because of all the hard things that he said.
[Meri] That's how I feel about it. I still feel about it.
I still question like... he walked out the door,
and I looked at her and I'm like,
"Did I do the wrong thing here?"
You were so much more forgiving and patient
than I think most people could see.
-And I kept telling myself, and telling her... -[Brandi] Mmm-hmm.
...I would say, "As a monogamist,
I feel like you should tell him to get the hell out,
and of your life completely.
But I understand that that's not where you're at.
I've always thought this,
and you always...
said, "No, that's not true. He's not..."
I always saw him favor her, Robyn.
I don't believe that Robyn entered the family
with the intention of kicking
me and Janelle and Christine out.
I think that she...
saw what we had at that time
and wanted that.
I really believe that.
I don't understand...
how... COVID became...
he has to stay at her house all the time.
His reasoning with it
was that he wanted to keep
his family safe.
He wanted to keep his little kids safe.
I just... None of this makes sense. I'm sorry. It's...
It's... It was favoritism, and that's it.
So for two years, she did every single thing
-he asked her to do. -Mmm-hmm.
"Well, we can't favor you."
Okay, but she's following the protocols.
So what does it matter?
That is gaslighting.
-There you go. That was gaslighting. -That's gaslighting.
With Robyn, I feel like I've put in a lot,
and, especially over COVID,
it's like, I was the one who was always calling.
It wasn't being reciprocated and I...
I really believe that a relationship has to be reciprocal.
And it wasn't reciprocal.
A perfect example is at your mom's funeral.
[sighs] Yeah, that was hard.
The fact that Robyn didn't come to my mom's funeral
and support me in that way at that time
was very hurtful to me.
You know, they were following the COVID rules.
And, you know,
I felt really bad about that.
And I kind of understood.
But also, Kody ended up going, too, you know...
So I just... The whole thing was really confusing to me.
That... that she wouldn't go because Janelle went.
Kody went because we couldn't both quarantine away
from the kids for that long.
I didn't have...
You know, I didn't have that option.
During this time, I was missing all kinds of things,
Avalon's birth,
my dad was super sick and in the hospital.
I wish I could have.
I love Bonnie.
And I wanted to be supportive to Meri,
and I would have been there in a heartbeat
if it hadn't have been the situation
that we were dealing with with COVID.
It's always been, "I'm there for you.
I'm always gonna be there for you."
And then there's been multiple times
where she hasn't been there,
but Meri's then been there for her.
I quit calling her and texting her
because I... I was the only one doing it.
It wasn't meant to be mean.
It was just...
I need this to be reciprocal
if it's going to be a relationship and it wasn't.
But I don't know. I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened behind the scenes.
I don't either.
-I don't either. -I think everybody contributed, honestly.
Like, knowing every single thing I know.
I think Robyn did. I think there was lots of things...
Like, for the downfall of the family.?
-[Jenn] Yeah. -Right. I think...
-it was every one of us. -But also the downfall of your own...
like, your own marriage.
You have done a really good job
of staying out of everyone else's marriage.
[Brandi] Mmm-hmm.
And not everyone else did a good job of staying out of yours.
Yeah, I know. There was a lot of stuff said about me.
Okay, so they were on the property
having this conversation...
Okay, I can't. I just--
You're gonna have to just tell her
-because I'm gonna throw my damn cup through the wall. -[chuckles]
Like, I'm... I get so frustrated...
-with like-- -About, like, our breakup conversation?
[Jenn] About...
-Flagstaff property? -...what he said in front of Nathan and Rebecca.
So basically, Kody and I
had our breakup conversation.
We were out on the property and we were talking about it.
Like, it just kind of started coming up.
And we're like, "All right, well, we're here. We're talking about it.
Let's talk about it."
Well, Robyn was there, too.
You want something that... we can't have together.
[sniffles]
[sobbing] I'm sorry. I... just need to move away.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I just want to be supportive of you two,
but I just need to move away.
And so she was upset by it, you know,
and so she stood up and she walked away.
So later... Kody goes...
[chuckling softly]
[chuckling] I don't understand him, Brandi.
I don't understand him at all. [laughing]
[exhales]
[all laughing]
I don't even know what I'm gonna say.
-I can't! -I try not to look at you.
-I can't. -It frustrates the hell out of me.
-Sorry. -I'm so sorry. He goes...
"That was so hard on Robyn."
I thought it was fair for you and I
to have a conversation without Robyn
being involved in it.
Hundred percent.
I agree with you.
Poor girl. That whole talk just wrecked her.
Okay.
-What? [laughing] -No, wait...
-Wait, there's more. -No, no, there can't be more.
[Meri] "Poor girl." [chuckles]
Stop!
It was hard on Robyn, and I looked at him,
and I'm like, "Yeah, it was...
kind of hard on me, too."
-[Jenn] "I had a tough go of it, too, there, buddy." -You think?
I'm not discounting how hard it was on Robyn?
It's like he's completely discounting me.
The fact that he and I started this family together.
If you would have cried, he would have taken it seriously.
It was so weird. Like--
Why is he so stupid?
[laughs]
-He got what-- -So she'd be really threatened if he met a girl
that cries, like, all the time.
-[all chuckling] -[Brandi] And just need to--
I mean, it was kind of hard on me, too, Kody.
There was already a lot of tears shed,
and he didn't care about it.
My legs are hurting, you guys.
-I know. Mine are-- -Can we now get in the car?
-My foot's asleep. -Let's...
-Let's go. -Yeah.
-'Cause I don't wanna go over there in the dark. -What do you wanna look at?
We're gonna go look at the house.
-We're gonna look sketchy. -We're gonna go have closure.
Okay.
You have one red tomato.
Okay, don't make fun of me if I don't know how to drive.
-[Meri] No. It's rude. -[all chuckling]
-[indistinct conversation] -[Jenn] Oh, Yeah, they did put fences up.
Well, ladies...
-here we are. -[Jenn] It looks so different.
-It's so weird. -[Jenn] Like, everything grew.
We had such a dream when we moved here,
and it was really sad when we left.
I've been back to the cul-de-sac a few times.
I wonder a lot if we would have stayed together,
we would have stayed in Las Vegas.
Well, I've been back to the cul-de-sac one... time.
It was hard to... it was really difficult.
You know, I have never gone back
to see the cul-de-sac in Vegas.
I just haven't really had any interest or inclination.
To me, that's like the chapter is closed.
I don't need to go back and see the location,
but I know that some people in our family
have felt like that was healing
or... beneficial
There was a lot of cool things that happened here,
but now it's somebody else's cool stuff.
I'm feeling a little bit anxious.
Um, it's very awkward. It's weird.
Very much feeling
I... I don't need to be here very long.
All right!
-Let's go. I'm done. -[Brandi] That's... Recommitment ceremony. Sorry.
I'm not! I'm not!
-She doesn't want to go there. -Like, y'all, it's cool.
It's awesome. It's weird.
But I'm like beyond it.
-I'm so glad you're beyond it. -I am.
-[all chuckling] -[Brandi] It's not helping!
[all continue laughing]
-[Jenn] You don't want... -[Brandi] Trust me.
Do you guys want ice cream after pizza?
-Yeah. -And chicken?
I brought ice cream. Just kidding.
-Mmm. -Your mom brought ice cream.
I just brought the toppings.
-Meri said if... -[chuckles]
...If she was given a choice
to join our family
versus Jenn's family...
she chose our family.
-Aw! -[Jenn] But I mean, obviously,
you have more robots.
-[chuckles] -Only because of you,
and in spite of me.
[Meri] I did say...
-You'd be a very difficult-- -...you're pretty dang awesome,
and she'd be a rough sister wife.
-[Tim] She would. -Oh, absolutely.
-I'd be the worse. -[Jenn] Sean's gonna hear this
and get his feelings hurt, by the way.
Listen, I love Sean, too.
Yeah, you're gonna have to prove it.
-[Brandi] But he's no Tim. -[all laughing]
I got married once, and I've been divorced twice.
[chuckling]
How many people can say that?
[indistinct conversation]
Wow. I'm an anomaly.
Married once, divorced twice.
[chuckles]
[narrator] Next time on Sister Wives...
-[Christine chuckling] -[woman] Who is this?
Today is the first day I'm going to see my wedding dress.
I want to try it on. Yes.
I had no idea how incredible it would feel
to look at wedding dresses with my daughters.
-You guys ready? -[all] Yes.
-Oh, my goodness. -[laughs]
I'm not just throwing this in the garbage.
I'm going to, on purpose, ruin it.
-[cheering] -And... he's out.
Hey, let's go. Come on.
I was hearing some feedback from family
about the accusations being made against me.
There's a jealousy and dislike that they've had
toward Robyn,
especially Christine and Janelle.
We were supposed to be a team working together.
I feel like I've been gaslit, like crazy.