1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:02,867 [Kody] Previously on "Sister Wives." 2 00:00:03,967 --> 00:00:05,767 Well, I wanted to fly out here and meet with you, um. 3 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:08,667 Basically, I just wanted to come and say, um, 4 00:00:09,166 --> 00:00:09,800 that I apologize. 5 00:00:11,867 --> 00:00:15,667 I said, "I didn't love you." That wasn't true. 6 00:00:17,367 --> 00:00:21,567 [Janelle] We always had a really good relationship as far as, 7 00:00:22,433 --> 00:00:23,400 like, being able to talk to each other. 8 00:00:24,467 --> 00:00:26,367 I think we still do care for each other. 9 00:00:27,066 --> 00:00:27,567 I mean, like, how can you not? 10 00:00:28,433 --> 00:00:30,166 I spent so many years married to him. 11 00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:35,266 What's your love language? 12 00:00:36,066 --> 00:00:37,567 My love language is physical touch. 13 00:00:38,867 --> 00:00:41,467 He's handsome, so there's that. 14 00:00:42,567 --> 00:00:43,700 Yeah, when I fill out my survey, I'm definitely gonna 15 00:00:44,633 --> 00:00:46,166 put Meri down, and I hope to see her again. 16 00:00:46,734 --> 00:00:48,300 [tense music playing] 17 00:00:49,633 --> 00:00:53,100 Do you think Kody wants to meet up to talk crap on you? 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,467 No, he said that he wants to extend an olive branch. 19 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:00,266 I just don't trust that. I just don't trust him. 20 00:01:01,467 --> 00:01:04,667 Yeah, I've got two more wives to visit with. 21 00:01:05,867 --> 00:01:07,867 I -- I get a little bit nervous thinking that it could go 22 00:01:08,433 --> 00:01:09,767 really, really wrong. 23 00:01:10,333 --> 00:01:11,900 [theme music playing] 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,867 [rock music playing] 25 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:33,967 [Kody panting] 26 00:01:41,066 --> 00:01:43,500 I just visited with Janelle in North Carolina, and 27 00:01:44,767 --> 00:01:45,867 I've been back for a little bit, and I'm having a workout today. 28 00:01:48,767 --> 00:01:49,900 I got to keep myself young. 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,600 I have a wife 10 years younger than me, 30 00:01:53,333 --> 00:01:54,367 almost 11 years younger than me. 31 00:01:55,300 --> 00:01:56,266 I don't wanna be the old man in the family. 32 00:02:04,767 --> 00:02:09,000 I'm really trying to focus on aging gracefully, 33 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,767 strength training, simply for the purpose of just staying 34 00:02:13,266 --> 00:02:13,867 well and healthy. 35 00:02:15,367 --> 00:02:16,300 [Robyn] Knock, knock. 36 00:02:17,467 --> 00:02:19,000 Hi, hon. 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,166 [Kody] Hi. 38 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:23,000 [Robyn] It's raining finally. 39 00:02:23,367 --> 00:02:24,567 [exhales] 40 00:02:24,867 --> 00:02:25,567 [grunts] 41 00:02:26,266 --> 00:02:26,900 -[Kody] Check this out. -What? 42 00:02:28,767 --> 00:02:31,166 OK. Here, pick this up. 43 00:02:31,734 --> 00:02:33,000 Tell me if it's heavy. 44 00:02:33,700 --> 00:02:34,700 Oh, my gosh. Seriously, Kody? 45 00:02:35,667 --> 00:02:36,567 I just did four pull-ups with that on my back. 46 00:02:37,233 --> 00:02:38,266 No, you didn't. Oh, my gosh. 47 00:02:38,967 --> 00:02:39,467 I couldn't do it again, sorry. 48 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,467 I can't impress you with that, but I'm a little winded. 49 00:02:43,367 --> 00:02:45,266 Boy, it's been a workout, so I'm tired. 50 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:49,266 But I wanna see with a woman, a beautiful woman watching me, 51 00:02:49,967 --> 00:02:51,967 how many pu -- -I just...ooh! 52 00:02:52,533 --> 00:02:54,600 [Kody breathing heavily] 53 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:56,300 Dang! 54 00:02:56,867 --> 00:02:58,367 [Kody breathing heavily] 55 00:03:00,767 --> 00:03:01,867 Wow. 56 00:03:02,934 --> 00:03:05,400 Kody always was, like, obsessed about working out. 57 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,000 Always obsessed. It was an obsession, I thought. 58 00:03:09,033 --> 00:03:11,667 I don't remember him working out in our early years 59 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:16,000 of marriage as much as he does now. 60 00:03:16,900 --> 00:03:19,266 He's in pretty good shape. He works hard. 61 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:20,233 All right, all right, all right. 62 00:03:21,166 --> 00:03:21,767 All right. You're good. 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,200 I'm impressed. 64 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,100 I feel like Kody working out is kind of icing on the cake. 65 00:03:28,033 --> 00:03:29,300 I appreciate that he takes care of himself. 66 00:03:30,533 --> 00:03:33,967 But really what is the core of it is who he is as a person. 67 00:03:34,834 --> 00:03:38,567 Something that really always makes me 68 00:03:39,633 --> 00:03:41,700 just go, "rawr" with Kody is when he's a good dad. 69 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,100 I'm looking buff? 70 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,266 -Yeah. -I'm a little sweaty. 71 00:03:47,066 --> 00:03:47,867 You don't wanna touch me, do you? 72 00:03:48,567 --> 00:03:49,800 I'll kiss your lips. [laughs] 73 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:51,767 [smooch] 74 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:54,367 [exhales] Wow, yeah. 75 00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:57,000 -[Robyn] Hi. -Hi. 76 00:03:57,867 --> 00:03:59,266 -How's it going? -Oh, it's going good. 77 00:04:00,467 --> 00:04:01,266 I just thought maybe we'd have a little private moment. 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,200 You could tell me kind of how things went. 79 00:04:04,633 --> 00:04:06,767 Oh... [exhales] 80 00:04:07,166 --> 00:04:07,800 It was good. 81 00:04:08,166 --> 00:04:08,900 I mean... 82 00:04:10,567 --> 00:04:12,667 -Should I sit down? -...it's a fast trip. 83 00:04:13,767 --> 00:04:14,600 -I would have you sit down. -Or should we stand up? 84 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:15,867 Yeah. 85 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,900 He's back from North Carolina from talking to Janelle. 86 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:22,000 I wanna check in with him and kind of talk to him and see 87 00:04:22,567 --> 00:04:23,667 how he feels about it. 88 00:04:24,467 --> 00:04:25,667 -You feeling OK? -It was a good trip. 89 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:28,400 And -- and -- 90 00:04:29,633 --> 00:04:30,967 you know, you just don't know what to expect when you're... 91 00:04:32,133 --> 00:04:35,367 meeting with an ex. I just was like, well, 92 00:04:36,233 --> 00:04:36,667 "I just want to get real here with you 93 00:04:37,533 --> 00:04:38,500 and just say, I'm sorry, just apologize." 94 00:04:41,166 --> 00:04:42,767 Oh, you were saying this? Yeah. 95 00:04:43,300 --> 00:04:44,066 [Kody] Yeah, to her. 96 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:45,867 I thought she was generous with how easy... 97 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:47,066 [Robyn] Mm-hmm. 98 00:04:48,133 --> 00:04:49,266 I mean, there's a lot under the bridge, you know? 99 00:04:50,066 --> 00:04:52,467 So Janelle was easygoing with you? 100 00:04:53,567 --> 00:04:55,367 I thought she was just kind about it. 101 00:04:56,233 --> 00:04:56,600 -Really? -[Kody] And I even thanked her 102 00:04:57,367 --> 00:04:58,000 for being kind about it... -Yeah. 103 00:04:58,934 --> 00:05:00,100 ...because this is, it's a journey thing. 104 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,300 It's -- It's a -- 105 00:05:04,133 --> 00:05:06,867 it's about just getting things right. 106 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:08,367 I mean... [clears throat] 107 00:05:09,367 --> 00:05:11,700 But I had to get my mind set in a funny place. 108 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:15,266 Like, literally, I had to just get prayerful 109 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,100 and say, "Hey, God," you know, 110 00:05:17,967 --> 00:05:22,900 "I gotta forgive so that I can apologize. 111 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:24,567 Help me out here." 112 00:05:25,266 --> 00:05:27,667 After doing this with Janelle, 113 00:05:28,767 --> 00:05:30,867 do you, how are you, like, 114 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:33,700 are you feeling like what your choice 115 00:05:34,734 --> 00:05:37,600 in deciding to do this was the right thing to do? 116 00:05:38,166 --> 00:05:38,767 To be fair to Janelle, 117 00:05:39,567 --> 00:05:41,066 I thought she made it easy enough. 118 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:42,667 -[Robyn] Yeah. -That I -- 119 00:05:43,367 --> 00:05:45,367 Well, not -- not about Janelle. 120 00:05:46,266 --> 00:05:47,100 -[Kody] No, I'm moving forward. -For you. 121 00:05:48,266 --> 00:05:52,500 Like, does this afterwards, no matter what anybody says 122 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,066 or anybody's reaction, I mean, 123 00:05:54,867 --> 00:05:56,567 this is really about whether or not 124 00:05:57,667 --> 00:05:59,400 you feel like God is witnessing to you 125 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:00,867 was the right thing to do? 126 00:06:01,533 --> 00:06:03,300 That, yes. I'm apologizing. 127 00:06:03,900 --> 00:06:05,100 -[Robyn] Yeah. -And -- 128 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:07,767 And it just feels so much better. 129 00:06:08,066 --> 00:06:08,867 Good. 130 00:06:12,266 --> 00:06:15,767 [Robyn] Who Kody has been the last few years is really 131 00:06:16,233 --> 00:06:17,867 not who Kody is. 132 00:06:18,433 --> 00:06:19,367 Kody without the anger 133 00:06:20,867 --> 00:06:22,266 is a really good guy. 134 00:06:24,266 --> 00:06:29,467 To say that it went as good as it could be with Janelle, 135 00:06:30,367 --> 00:06:33,000 I think is a little bit understatement. 136 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:34,567 There was a lot of grace there. 137 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:36,900 I'm gonna be fair. 138 00:06:37,767 --> 00:06:38,667 I think the easiest of the chores was 139 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,100 going to see Janelle and apologize to her. 140 00:06:42,467 --> 00:06:44,967 So when I go see Christine, I don't expect it to be 141 00:06:45,467 --> 00:06:46,700 easy, necessarily. 142 00:06:48,767 --> 00:06:50,100 Who knows? 143 00:06:51,266 --> 00:06:53,467 With Christine, it could be -- it could go even smoother. 144 00:06:53,900 --> 00:06:55,567 It could go, um, 145 00:06:56,433 --> 00:06:58,266 not as smooth. I don't -- I don't know. 146 00:06:59,433 --> 00:07:03,567 She could be extremely angry and really push back, or... 147 00:07:04,767 --> 00:07:06,800 another extreme, she could just not take it serious at all. 148 00:07:08,767 --> 00:07:12,266 And for me, this is very serious. 149 00:07:14,066 --> 00:07:17,066 A couple words I wanna use are sober and pious. 150 00:07:18,066 --> 00:07:19,767 It's not for me to go joking around about this. 151 00:07:20,867 --> 00:07:25,367 And so I'm just hoping of the same kind of tenderness 152 00:07:26,467 --> 00:07:29,000 and grace that I've experienced with it with Janelle, 153 00:07:30,967 --> 00:07:34,567 but I am prepared for a very different experience. 154 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:40,867 [Shawnee] We might could scoot the griddles down more. 155 00:07:41,266 --> 00:07:42,100 [Meri] Yeah. 156 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:44,667 -Where they're not right in the sunshine. -Yeah. 157 00:07:45,834 --> 00:07:48,100 Shawnee and I are working on getting everything prepped 158 00:07:49,266 --> 00:07:52,467 today for the breakfast that we're having here tomorrow. 159 00:07:53,467 --> 00:07:55,867 We're doing a fundraiser for Jenn and her family. 160 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:03,166 Jenn's husband, Shawn, has been battling cancer for two years. 161 00:08:04,266 --> 00:08:06,867 Every bit of what we make is gonna be going directly 162 00:08:07,567 --> 00:08:10,367 to Jenn and her hospital bills. 163 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,667 For nearly 14 years, Jenn has been the person who has been, 164 00:08:16,100 --> 00:08:17,400 like, my rock. 165 00:08:18,567 --> 00:08:22,166 She is there to do and support and just be there with me 166 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,300 and cry with me. 167 00:08:23,867 --> 00:08:25,500 She just is that person, 168 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,567 and she's just always been there for me. 169 00:08:29,233 --> 00:08:30,667 [melancholic music playing] 170 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,867 She just deserves to have the support. 171 00:08:36,867 --> 00:08:40,066 [Jenn] It is probably one of my least favorite things 172 00:08:41,300 --> 00:08:42,767 when -- [sighs] 173 00:08:43,667 --> 00:08:45,166 when people do things like this for me. 174 00:08:46,100 --> 00:08:47,166 I love doing things like this for others, 175 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,266 but I keep going back to, 176 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:51,967 "But what about -- what about them?" 177 00:08:53,033 --> 00:08:54,467 What about -- you know? And so I struggle with that. 178 00:08:56,767 --> 00:08:58,867 I'll be over there around seven, seven fifteen. 179 00:08:59,467 --> 00:08:59,867 We'll do the bike ride. 180 00:09:00,867 --> 00:09:02,000 We'll come back here. We'll make pancakes. 181 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:04,667 What about pre-mixing eggs? 182 00:09:05,667 --> 00:09:06,300 Oh, no, we're not doing scrambled eggs, right? 183 00:09:06,967 --> 00:09:07,567 We're doing just fried eggs. 184 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:08,867 -I think fried eggs would be easier. -[Shawnee] Yeah. 185 00:09:10,333 --> 00:09:10,567 -Then we don't have to... -Then we don't have the mess 186 00:09:11,567 --> 00:09:12,266 of mixing them and everything. -[both] Yeah. 187 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:16,100 Shawnee is the best support system. 188 00:09:16,834 --> 00:09:18,467 OK, Jenn might actually be mad. 189 00:09:19,133 --> 00:09:20,467 Amber might actually be mad. 190 00:09:21,500 --> 00:09:24,400 Shawnee is one of my three best support systems. 191 00:09:26,166 --> 00:09:27,400 I mean, like, I don't know. 192 00:09:28,633 --> 00:09:32,000 If four women were ever created to be together and not have 193 00:09:33,133 --> 00:09:35,800 a matching husband, you know? Like, it is us, I swear. 194 00:09:36,367 --> 00:09:37,867 [quirky music playing] 195 00:09:40,467 --> 00:09:42,467 So when I look at the four of us 196 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,467 and how well we work together, 197 00:09:46,300 --> 00:09:49,767 it is completely different than, like, 198 00:09:50,433 --> 00:09:51,867 me and my sister wives were. 199 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,867 Could've been really cool if... 200 00:09:57,967 --> 00:09:59,600 our sister wife relationship could've been like this. 201 00:10:00,734 --> 00:10:03,867 I will never be sister wives with these ladies because, 202 00:10:04,900 --> 00:10:05,900 well, let's see, two of them are married already 203 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,400 to different men. 204 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:08,767 One of them is dating somebody. 205 00:10:09,934 --> 00:10:12,100 Oh, also, I have no interest in being a polygamist again. 206 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:14,667 So yeah, the sister wife dynamic is over for me. 207 00:10:16,100 --> 00:10:17,567 So yeah, that's never gonna happen. 208 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,066 Jenn -- Jenn and Amber and Ron. 209 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:27,166 Ron's coming. 210 00:10:30,867 --> 00:10:32,867 Yes, we have been out on dates. 211 00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:33,967 Yes. 212 00:10:39,367 --> 00:10:42,600 I'm really not one to put labels on things, 213 00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:44,667 because, like, "What do you call a date?" 214 00:10:45,467 --> 00:10:46,300 What does it mean when it's a date 215 00:10:46,834 --> 00:10:48,467 versus when it's a, 216 00:10:49,233 --> 00:10:50,100 "Let's spend some time together?" 217 00:10:50,934 --> 00:10:51,567 You know what I mean? So it's like, 218 00:10:52,133 --> 00:10:52,767 Why put a label on it? 219 00:10:53,967 --> 00:10:55,266 The whole point is we're just getting to know each other. 220 00:10:58,100 --> 00:11:00,066 I'm really excited, though, that Ron's gonna come down 221 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,266 for this fundraiser. 222 00:11:01,567 --> 00:11:03,667 Um, I... 223 00:11:04,767 --> 00:11:06,467 this is the first time that he's come down to my part 224 00:11:07,533 --> 00:11:09,867 of the world, and it's just gonna be kind of cool 225 00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:13,266 to share it with him and just kind of let him in 226 00:11:14,433 --> 00:11:16,900 a little bit to my world, you know, and meet my friends 227 00:11:17,767 --> 00:11:18,700 and just kind of hang out in my space. 228 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,667 So I'm really excited about it. 229 00:11:21,867 --> 00:11:24,100 I just hope we have a lot of fun, and it goes really well. 230 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,800 My friends Angela and Kristina are in town. 231 00:11:32,867 --> 00:11:33,867 First time they've come to North Carolina to see me. 232 00:11:35,367 --> 00:11:36,767 I love this place. Like, I love it. 233 00:11:37,867 --> 00:11:38,600 They have cute little, like, their coffees are good. 234 00:11:39,133 --> 00:11:40,000 They have good food. 235 00:11:40,967 --> 00:11:44,467 I just recently had a -- a sit down with Kody. 236 00:11:45,633 --> 00:11:46,600 My head still is kind of like, "What the heck happened?" 237 00:11:47,133 --> 00:11:48,400 'Cause it was so... 238 00:11:48,834 --> 00:11:49,467 It was intense. 239 00:11:51,467 --> 00:11:52,467 Since I saw you guys last, 240 00:11:53,500 --> 00:11:55,000 Kody came and -- I think I told you 241 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:56,500 -Kody was gonna come. -[Angela] Mm-hmm. 242 00:11:57,567 --> 00:11:58,867 -He came to North Carolina, right? -[Janelle] Yeah. 243 00:11:59,934 --> 00:12:01,500 But you just had a big question mark in your head. 244 00:12:02,567 --> 00:12:03,567 But I'm like, "OK, I'll go see what he has to say," 245 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,367 'cause I'm like, "All right." -[Angela] Mm-hmm. 246 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,667 I agreed to it, 247 00:12:07,767 --> 00:12:08,166 'cause I didn't wanna -- -[Kristina] What did you wear? 248 00:12:09,767 --> 00:12:11,367 Just regular clothes, I mean -- 249 00:12:12,033 --> 00:12:12,800 Bet she looked like a queen. 250 00:12:13,633 --> 00:12:15,367 I'm sure she did. What did he wear? 251 00:12:15,967 --> 00:12:17,500 -A visor? -[all laugh] 252 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:20,200 -A visor? -[laughing] 253 00:12:21,233 --> 00:12:21,867 [Janelle] I think he had a suit jacket on, like -- 254 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,300 Oh, so he was like a little dressed up, more elevated. 255 00:12:25,066 --> 00:12:25,367 -[Janelle] Yeah. -Oh, interesting. 256 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:28,567 -[Angela] Man bun, no man bun. -No. 257 00:12:30,266 --> 00:12:32,300 What did -- like, what was your energy going into it? 258 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,367 Were you nervous? 259 00:12:34,133 --> 00:12:34,367 -[Janelle] No. -Were you excited? 260 00:12:35,033 --> 00:12:36,367 Were you annoyed? 261 00:12:37,433 --> 00:12:38,367 I was just like, I was kind of like, I just wanna, 262 00:12:39,166 --> 00:12:40,200 I was really intending to sit down, 263 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:41,667 listen to him for ten minutes, and leave. 264 00:12:42,633 --> 00:12:43,367 I just really, I needed him to say his thing, 265 00:12:44,266 --> 00:12:44,467 and I was gonna leave. -[Kristina] Right. 266 00:12:45,633 --> 00:12:46,000 And Robyn didn't come with him, right? 267 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:48,467 No -- I mean, he might, she might have been somewhere. 268 00:12:49,533 --> 00:12:50,266 He wanted to, like, sit down with the three of you, 269 00:12:51,233 --> 00:12:51,667 or he just wanted to talk to you by yourself.? 270 00:12:52,533 --> 00:12:53,166 No, because she speaks Kody, you know? 271 00:12:53,467 --> 00:12:55,467 [laughs] 272 00:12:56,166 --> 00:12:56,500 In case I needed translating. 273 00:12:56,867 --> 00:12:58,000 [laughing] 274 00:12:59,133 --> 00:13:02,100 When Kody said he wanted to come for whatever, to see me, 275 00:13:03,166 --> 00:13:03,667 I said, "That's fine, but you can't bring Robyn." 276 00:13:04,734 --> 00:13:06,100 Don't want -- I have no interest in having her here. 277 00:13:07,333 --> 00:13:08,266 I just don't think she really has to be involved in anything 278 00:13:08,834 --> 00:13:10,166 Kody has to say to me. 279 00:13:11,300 --> 00:13:12,166 And if he has something to say to me that involves her, 280 00:13:13,033 --> 00:13:13,467 I really don't think I need to hear it. 281 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:14,567 I just don't. 282 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 I mean... 283 00:13:19,867 --> 00:13:22,000 And we got there. 284 00:13:22,367 --> 00:13:23,400 And, um... 285 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:27,000 it's like I actually... 286 00:13:27,867 --> 00:13:29,367 left after, like, an hour and a half, 287 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,400 and it took me, like, a while to decompress the whole thing, 288 00:13:33,333 --> 00:13:35,000 'cause it was so intense. Like, it was... 289 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,266 And it wasn't intense bad. It was just intense. 290 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:38,767 Did it sound disingenuous? 291 00:13:39,433 --> 00:13:40,667 -No, it sounded genuine. -OK. 292 00:13:41,834 --> 00:13:42,700 [Angela] Were you just, like, shocked at all the things 293 00:13:43,467 --> 00:13:44,100 that were coming out of his mouth, 294 00:13:44,934 --> 00:13:46,400 or were you taking a, like... -Um... 295 00:13:47,433 --> 00:13:48,367 No, I knew that it was gonna most likely be some 296 00:13:49,266 --> 00:13:49,900 sort of an apology. -[Angela] Oh, good. 297 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:51,767 I didn't know why he was coming. 298 00:13:52,333 --> 00:13:52,867 He's filled with guilt. 299 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,200 I mean, he went from this charming guy to... 300 00:13:55,967 --> 00:13:56,667 So he was, like, his old self then. 301 00:13:57,433 --> 00:13:57,867 [Janelle] Yeah, like, I don't... 302 00:13:58,633 --> 00:13:58,867 It was like a different version. 303 00:13:59,767 --> 00:14:00,400 Yeah, this is who, like, he was. 304 00:14:01,433 --> 00:14:03,266 Not this intense, but he was very kind like that. 305 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:04,367 That's how he used to be. 306 00:14:06,066 --> 00:14:07,500 There was a part of me that really needed 307 00:14:08,266 --> 00:14:09,100 to hear some of it, I realized. 308 00:14:09,667 --> 00:14:10,166 And I told him, I said, 309 00:14:11,133 --> 00:14:12,300 "It's been good to hear some of these things." 310 00:14:13,433 --> 00:14:15,667 Is there any part of you that would ever go back to Kody? 311 00:14:16,233 --> 00:14:17,767 [tense music playing] 312 00:14:24,667 --> 00:14:28,000 I don't have a lot of trust with Kody 313 00:14:28,834 --> 00:14:30,667 that this conversation's gonna go well. 314 00:14:32,166 --> 00:14:34,000 It's weird, 'cause we haven't really had a conversation 315 00:14:34,667 --> 00:14:36,100 since I left. Not really. 316 00:14:37,133 --> 00:14:40,000 It's in my hands to make sure nothing... [stammers] 317 00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:41,266 She doesn't get harmed by it. 318 00:14:50,767 --> 00:14:53,467 Here we are at Gear Up Bike and Sports. 319 00:14:54,166 --> 00:14:55,667 This is Jenn and Shawn's shop. 320 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,567 We're all just getting ready for the bike ride. 321 00:15:02,867 --> 00:15:04,000 [attendee] You're gonna be getting jumped. 322 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:08,400 -[Meri] Hi. -Hi. 323 00:15:08,967 --> 00:15:09,567 -How are you? -Good. 324 00:15:10,266 --> 00:15:11,567 Look at you, being all festive. 325 00:15:13,367 --> 00:15:15,100 Thanks -- yeah. 326 00:15:15,867 --> 00:15:16,266 [attendee] I'll do a regular one. 327 00:15:16,934 --> 00:15:18,166 He's here. He's showed up. 328 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,767 And I'm really excited. It'll be fun. 329 00:15:21,333 --> 00:15:22,300 It'll be fun to, um... 330 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:27,166 Yeah, it'll just be fun to have him meet all my friends, 331 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:28,300 and for my friends to meet him. 332 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:31,767 Yellow is good. We love yellow. 333 00:15:32,867 --> 00:15:35,166 Good. Did you sleep good? 334 00:15:35,667 --> 00:15:37,367 Yeah, good, good. 335 00:15:37,934 --> 00:15:39,367 I had, like, four hours. 336 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:40,467 [Ron] Really? 337 00:15:42,867 --> 00:15:44,900 -I'll just caffeine it up today. -[laughing] 338 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,000 A lot. 339 00:15:49,567 --> 00:15:51,066 Yeah. 340 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:54,066 I know, I was trying to decide if I wanted to bring a jacket. 341 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:55,467 It was kind of chilly this morning. 342 00:15:56,233 --> 00:15:56,667 Oh, this is Shawnee. This is Ron. 343 00:15:57,300 --> 00:15:57,767 Hi, Ron. Nice to meet you. 344 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:58,800 Hey, hi, nice to meet you. 345 00:16:00,367 --> 00:16:02,166 Do you have a helmet? You have a helmet. 346 00:16:03,033 --> 00:16:03,600 -Did you bring a helmet? -I did, yeah. 347 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:05,467 Are you gonna -- You don't have to wear it. 348 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:06,867 It's completely up to you. 349 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,800 -You don't like to wear it? -[Ron] Um... 350 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:14,266 You like moving on the edge. 351 00:16:14,667 --> 00:16:15,367 [Ron] I do. 352 00:16:18,967 --> 00:16:22,667 -And break your elbows. -[Ron] Yeah. 353 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,300 [Meri] That's funny. 354 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:27,000 I mean, we're just getting to know each other. 355 00:16:27,567 --> 00:16:29,100 It's just comfortable. 356 00:16:30,333 --> 00:16:32,767 Thank you, thank you all for coming and doing this bike ride 357 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:34,667 to help support Jenn 358 00:16:36,567 --> 00:16:38,000 and her family. 359 00:16:39,066 --> 00:16:41,767 Please, please, please be very careful on the road. 360 00:16:42,767 --> 00:16:44,200 That's what I care about most in this moment. 361 00:16:45,333 --> 00:16:46,467 I've really enjoyed getting to know Ron over the past 362 00:16:47,233 --> 00:16:49,467 few months, and just kind of like 363 00:16:50,967 --> 00:16:56,367 how he thinks and his dynamic and, you know, like who he is 364 00:16:57,333 --> 00:17:00,166 as a person. And it's just been really cool. 365 00:17:00,734 --> 00:17:01,266 I've really enjoyed it. 366 00:17:04,266 --> 00:17:05,467 [Ron speaking indistinctly] 367 00:17:06,033 --> 00:17:06,667 I'm just gonna do it. 368 00:17:07,066 --> 00:17:07,767 [Meri] Whoo! 369 00:17:09,266 --> 00:17:11,467 I'm a rock star, I'm a rock star! 370 00:17:11,867 --> 00:17:12,500 Oh, my gosh. 371 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,600 I'm really glad that Ron took the time out 372 00:17:16,633 --> 00:17:19,000 of his schedule and his weekend to come down here. 373 00:17:21,467 --> 00:17:23,200 [Meri] To the right, to the right. 374 00:17:24,967 --> 00:17:30,700 You know, it just makes me feel like I matter to him. 375 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,100 These e-bikes are too big to pop a wheelie, I think. 376 00:17:35,667 --> 00:17:36,800 Too heavy. It's like... 377 00:17:38,667 --> 00:17:42,700 It's gonna be kind of interesting to watch him 378 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,700 and see how he is in my world. 379 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:48,767 If he's comfortable or if he's... 380 00:17:49,734 --> 00:17:52,800 not comfortable or, you know, I don't know. 381 00:17:53,367 --> 00:17:54,867 It's just going to be... 382 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:56,767 I'm going to be very observant today. 383 00:18:03,867 --> 00:18:06,567 Look, I mean, I think at some point I thought, 384 00:18:07,567 --> 00:18:09,667 "What if he, like, what if we worked this out?" 385 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,367 [Kody] I feel like we've needed an olive branch, 386 00:18:14,867 --> 00:18:15,567 the entire family. 387 00:18:16,734 --> 00:18:19,367 And Janelle, you get the high honor of being the person 388 00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:24,266 I felt the safest with to start offering that olive branch. 389 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,200 Oh, we had a good -- we had a great, like, 390 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,667 I -- I'm grateful for what we had. 391 00:18:31,367 --> 00:18:32,066 -[Kody] Yeah. -I really am. 392 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,400 It's just one of those thoughts, you know, 393 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:35,467 you have when you sit down with an ex, you're like... 394 00:18:38,567 --> 00:18:40,400 [Kristina] He wasn't trying to get you back, was he? 395 00:18:41,033 --> 00:18:41,667 Oh, no, I don't think so. 396 00:18:42,767 --> 00:18:43,400 There's like, he wasn't trying to leave the door open 397 00:18:44,166 --> 00:18:44,600 for that? -No, I don't think so. 398 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,667 'Cause he really, I mean, he really, you know, 399 00:18:47,367 --> 00:18:47,767 he says all the time how much 400 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:49,467 he loves Robyn and she's his true love or whatever. 401 00:18:50,667 --> 00:18:51,867 And I'm like, "That's great. You guys can have each other." 402 00:18:53,033 --> 00:18:56,166 But you're, I mean, cordial and you guys have so many... 403 00:18:57,233 --> 00:18:58,600 shared family members and everything's going to be 404 00:18:59,467 --> 00:19:00,066 hard to avoid. -I'm sure I'll see him. 405 00:19:01,033 --> 00:19:01,233 -[Angela] That, you know. -[Kristina] Right. 406 00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:02,533 You know what I mean? I'm sure. 407 00:19:03,767 --> 00:19:03,967 Didn't even ask how the kids were doing? 408 00:19:05,233 --> 00:19:06,567 It seems like an angle to get to the kids. 409 00:19:07,567 --> 00:19:08,567 -He wants to soften you. -[Janelle] I don't know. 410 00:19:09,333 --> 00:19:10,367 I do think he's had some sort of, 411 00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:11,967 I said -- when I said to him, 412 00:19:12,834 --> 00:19:14,467 "Have you gone to a 12-step program?" 413 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:16,200 I couldn't figure out why all of a sudden, like, 414 00:19:17,033 --> 00:19:17,767 he was having some sort of remorse, 415 00:19:18,667 --> 00:19:19,266 you know what I mean? -Right his wrongs. 416 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:20,467 But it just sort of felt like that. 417 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:22,400 Like, he was really trying to kind of right some 418 00:19:23,333 --> 00:19:24,767 of the things, like, that he'd done wrong. 419 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,266 I'm glad that he apologized for some of the stuff he's said 420 00:19:28,967 --> 00:19:30,000 in the past. -Yeah, I mean... 421 00:19:31,066 --> 00:19:33,400 There's a lot more, though, that needs to be said. 422 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:36,000 You know, I had wanted to bring up the kids with him 423 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,300 when we met. 424 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,567 I think they really feel like 425 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:42,400 their dad didn't treat their mothers fair. 426 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,200 Like, there's just a lot of things, right? 427 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:47,266 There's a lot of things over the years. 428 00:19:48,333 --> 00:19:50,567 So now that that's done with, are we going to get 429 00:19:51,567 --> 00:19:52,667 spiritually divorced? -Yep, it's in the works. 430 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:53,900 So what do you have to do? 431 00:19:54,967 --> 00:19:55,567 I'm going to go meet with him in person, and yeah. 432 00:19:56,533 --> 00:19:57,000 -OK -- how long does it take? -And you talk? 433 00:19:58,333 --> 00:20:00,266 It won't be very fast. I mean, it won't be very long. 434 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:01,667 This feels like the timing is right. 435 00:20:02,300 --> 00:20:03,467 Now the property is done. 436 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,567 We've set our piece, 437 00:20:05,500 --> 00:20:06,100 and now it feels like it's time to really 438 00:20:06,667 --> 00:20:07,867 cut that and move on. 439 00:20:08,433 --> 00:20:09,166 Well, that's exciting. 440 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,567 -[Janelle] Yeah. -Is there, like, a... 441 00:20:13,533 --> 00:20:14,100 -[Janelle] It won't be -- -...divorce party? 442 00:20:15,066 --> 00:20:16,467 We should have our independence party, or... 443 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:17,600 [Janelle] Oh, yes, I think there should be. 444 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,367 [Kristina] "Bye Forever Kody Brown party, or..." 445 00:20:19,934 --> 00:20:20,667 I think it's gonna be. 446 00:20:21,633 --> 00:20:23,100 Yeah, you don't want to spiritually have to be 447 00:20:23,734 --> 00:20:24,500 up there forever with him. 448 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:27,200 We'll have to go somewhere to celebrate. 449 00:20:28,567 --> 00:20:29,800 [Angela] What can we call it? 450 00:20:30,934 --> 00:20:31,667 We can call it speed dating, and we can just trick her 451 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,166 and be like, "Surprise! You get two minutes 452 00:20:35,133 --> 00:20:36,000 to talk to every single one of these guys." 453 00:20:36,667 --> 00:20:37,667 [Janelle] Um, it's divorce. 454 00:20:38,767 --> 00:20:40,000 Like, it's basically our version of a divorce, right? 455 00:20:40,433 --> 00:20:41,600 I guess, yeah. 456 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:43,867 -[Janelle] Yeah. -Good for you. 457 00:20:44,767 --> 00:20:46,166 I mean, the financial ties are dissolved. 458 00:20:47,433 --> 00:20:50,266 Kody and I meeting sort of put a few of the little pieces that 459 00:20:51,433 --> 00:20:53,166 were missing out of the chapter of the book that's closed. 460 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:57,166 But I don't really care what Kody thinks about me seeking 461 00:20:57,967 --> 00:20:58,467 a spiritual release. I don't care. 462 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,867 I don't really know if I'll feel any different 463 00:21:04,700 --> 00:21:06,400 once the spiritual release is done. 464 00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:09,266 But intellectually, I'll know that there's a difference. 465 00:21:12,967 --> 00:21:14,600 It'd be a good idea for me to get to know David, 466 00:21:15,734 --> 00:21:17,100 'cause I've seen him make a lot of comments about me, 467 00:21:17,633 --> 00:21:18,967 not even knowing me. 468 00:21:20,066 --> 00:21:21,066 So I'm like, "Well, David, you really don't know me." 469 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:24,266 Uh, thanks for meeting with me. 470 00:21:25,667 --> 00:21:27,300 Suck those beers down, because I got some fun stuff 471 00:21:28,233 --> 00:21:28,433 to share with you. -[Christine] Oh, my God. 472 00:21:29,667 --> 00:21:29,867 -And it's all good. -[Christine] Now I'm nervous. 473 00:21:30,934 --> 00:21:31,133 No, no, no. Don't be nervous. 474 00:21:31,834 --> 00:21:32,000 I promise. 475 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,266 [Christine] David and I are in Vegas. 476 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Kody reached out to me and wanted to chat, 477 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,100 have a little -- what did he call it? 478 00:21:46,667 --> 00:21:48,200 Extend an olive branch. 479 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,200 Meeting up with Kody has me doubting myself and my ability 480 00:21:52,133 --> 00:21:53,100 to be strong, and I don't like that either. 481 00:21:54,133 --> 00:21:56,166 I'm very frustrated with myself, for even thinking 482 00:21:56,867 --> 00:21:57,800 that I can do this conversation. 483 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,000 It's weird, 'cause we haven't really had a conversation 484 00:22:01,667 --> 00:22:03,100 since I left. Not really. 485 00:22:03,834 --> 00:22:05,166 -Not really? -I don't think so. 486 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:07,367 I just don't know what's going to happen. 487 00:22:08,266 --> 00:22:09,767 I told Christine there's two ways to go -- 488 00:22:10,767 --> 00:22:12,367 it can go really good, or it can go really bad. 489 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,600 I'm curious why. 490 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,567 So we're hoping that it'll go good. 491 00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:18,166 It'll be OK. 492 00:22:18,934 --> 00:22:19,500 And that's where our level's at, 493 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,467 our expectation, OK. -OK, OK. 494 00:22:22,266 --> 00:22:23,500 If it goes better than that, great. 495 00:22:24,734 --> 00:22:25,867 Great --and even if it goes worse than that, it's still OK, 496 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:27,467 'cause we'll just pick up the pieces again 497 00:22:28,266 --> 00:22:29,367 and try this again. -[David] Yep. 498 00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:30,667 -So then, deal. -OK. 499 00:22:31,967 --> 00:22:33,467 -[David] I love you. -[Christine] I love you. 500 00:22:34,133 --> 00:22:34,767 -I got your back. -I know. 501 00:22:35,467 --> 00:22:35,800 I wouldn't do this without you. 502 00:22:39,700 --> 00:22:43,400 It's in my hands to make sure nothing... [stammers] 503 00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:44,767 She doesn't get harmed by it. 504 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,667 I don't have a lot of trust with Kody 505 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,300 that this conversation's gonna to go well. 506 00:23:02,567 --> 00:23:04,100 I'm sitting here in Las Vegas. 507 00:23:05,266 --> 00:23:09,467 I've -- I asked Christine to meet me. 508 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,567 I'm here basically in the simplest of terms 509 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,667 to apologize to Christine. 510 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:19,767 I asked David to come along. 511 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,700 It'd be a good idea for me to get to know David, 512 00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:24,100 'cause I've seen him make a lot of comments about me, 513 00:23:24,633 --> 00:23:25,900 not even knowing me. 514 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000 So I'm like, "Well, David, you really don't know me." 515 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,667 It could go any direction. 516 00:23:32,633 --> 00:23:34,867 But there's been a lot of hurt in the family, 517 00:23:35,567 --> 00:23:36,867 and I'm guilty of so much of it. 518 00:23:38,467 --> 00:23:41,667 And the reason I'm afraid is because others are guilty too, 519 00:23:42,667 --> 00:23:43,667 but that's not why I'm here to focus on that. 520 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:45,767 I'm like, "I wanna wash that away." 521 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,767 Las Vegas has always been, will probably always be 522 00:23:52,333 --> 00:23:53,567 very nostalgic for me. 523 00:23:54,333 --> 00:23:56,200 I mean, our family thrived here. 524 00:23:57,166 --> 00:23:59,166 Robyn is, I think she's a little nervous about 525 00:23:59,867 --> 00:24:00,567 the experience that I can have. 526 00:24:01,633 --> 00:24:04,367 She's going to worry about me and I can't stop her 527 00:24:04,934 --> 00:24:05,567 from worrying about me. 528 00:24:06,767 --> 00:24:08,867 And it never occurred to me to go because it's always been 529 00:24:09,867 --> 00:24:11,600 like Kody has had his individual relationships 530 00:24:12,667 --> 00:24:15,100 with each wife, even though they're now ex-wives. 531 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,266 It's -- it's -- I don't know. Like, it's still... 532 00:24:21,867 --> 00:24:23,467 sort of the same. Not really though. 533 00:24:24,166 --> 00:24:24,867 I don't know -- it's so weird. 534 00:24:25,433 --> 00:24:27,166 [chuckles] I don't know. 535 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:29,100 -[Robyn] Hey. -Hi! 536 00:24:29,667 --> 00:24:30,800 -How are you? -Good. 537 00:24:31,333 --> 00:24:33,100 [giggles] I'm OK. 538 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:34,100 -How are you? -[Kody] Good. 539 00:24:35,066 --> 00:24:39,000 I'm -- I'm relaxing in a cabana, pool-side. 540 00:24:39,567 --> 00:24:40,166 -Ooh. -[Kody laughs] 541 00:24:41,467 --> 00:24:43,900 We're way past due for a time of healing. 542 00:24:44,333 --> 00:24:45,266 So here we go. 543 00:24:46,266 --> 00:24:47,400 Yeah, but you've got to realize that everybody 544 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:49,100 has their journey. 545 00:24:50,133 --> 00:24:52,500 This is a shared responsibility between everyone. 546 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,367 I would just be patient with it and try not to react. 547 00:24:56,567 --> 00:24:59,367 Thank you. I want you to know that that... 548 00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:01,700 [Robyn] I don't -- I don't want you to feel pressure. 549 00:25:02,734 --> 00:25:04,767 -I just, you know. -It's just, I'm here to do it. 550 00:25:05,767 --> 00:25:07,000 This is the reason I'm here. I'm here to do it. 551 00:25:12,266 --> 00:25:14,700 [Kody] David isn't the wild card in this. 552 00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:18,567 Christine is more of a wild card, 553 00:25:19,133 --> 00:25:19,567 depending on her mood. 554 00:25:20,467 --> 00:25:21,066 Is she going to be really, really light? 555 00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:22,867 Is she going to be very uncomfortable 556 00:25:23,367 --> 00:25:24,100 so she gets silly? 557 00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:27,867 Or is she going to get really serious with me? 558 00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:28,967 I don't know. 559 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,166 [Christine] I don't like hard conversations. 560 00:25:34,967 --> 00:25:36,467 I've never liked hard conversations. 561 00:25:37,433 --> 00:25:38,367 And hard conversations with David are great. 562 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,367 They're fine. 563 00:25:40,367 --> 00:25:41,600 But hard conversations with Kody weren't fine. 564 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,300 They weren't. They were terrible. 565 00:25:48,266 --> 00:25:52,100 Christine's still, she's nervous about the whole deal. 566 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,100 Um, she's -- trying to help her get through it, 567 00:25:55,734 --> 00:25:57,166 'cause this is a big deal. 568 00:25:58,166 --> 00:25:59,266 I don't know what to believe with Kody anymore. 569 00:25:59,934 --> 00:26:00,767 I don't know what to trust. 570 00:26:01,667 --> 00:26:04,000 I don't trust him at all, to be honest. 571 00:26:05,033 --> 00:26:06,000 So he says he just wants to -- I don't even know. 572 00:26:06,967 --> 00:26:08,100 I don't know. I don't know what's happening. 573 00:26:09,066 --> 00:26:10,000 I don't know. I know that he's reached out. 574 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:11,367 He wants to talk. 575 00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:13,600 I just have to keep reminding myself of... 576 00:26:14,467 --> 00:26:15,467 he was a great guy when I married him. 577 00:26:16,033 --> 00:26:17,300 Kody was the kid's hero. 578 00:26:18,166 --> 00:26:19,400 He was their hero. He would come home, 579 00:26:20,333 --> 00:26:21,467 and the kids would all gather around him, 580 00:26:22,033 --> 00:26:23,567 and he'd play with them. 581 00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:25,800 -[Christine] Keep going. -[Kody] Catch them, catch them. 582 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,266 [kids laughing] 583 00:26:30,433 --> 00:26:32,500 [Christine] It was just cute, but that -- he did change. 584 00:26:35,367 --> 00:26:37,367 Like, yeah, everything changed. 585 00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:38,967 Kody's an adult. I'm an adult. 586 00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:41,567 We should be able to be around each other. 587 00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:44,967 -Hello, love. -[David] Hello. 588 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:46,867 -Wow, you look really pretty. -Thank you. 589 00:26:47,633 --> 00:26:48,667 -And sexy. -Oh, well, thank you. 590 00:26:49,233 --> 00:26:50,266 -Yes. -Thanks, babe. 591 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,567 -You ready to leave? -Yes, you look lovely. 592 00:26:53,166 --> 00:26:53,667 -I love that. -Lovely. 593 00:26:54,567 --> 00:26:56,600 -You look wonderful. -Thank you for this. 594 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:01,500 I don't think I can hope for a good outcome, 595 00:27:02,433 --> 00:27:04,266 but just being open is what I'm aiming for. 596 00:27:10,867 --> 00:27:13,100 Listen, next time you guys create a whole plan 597 00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:15,266 around the plan, you got to put it in the group chat 598 00:27:16,133 --> 00:27:17,300 so the whole group chat knows the plan. 599 00:27:17,734 --> 00:27:19,100 Ron was funny. 600 00:27:20,266 --> 00:27:22,266 He kind of was like backing out of the whole conversation. 601 00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:24,000 He's like, "I don't know what's happening here." 602 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:25,667 [laughs] 603 00:27:29,266 --> 00:27:32,266 [Meri] This is the first time that Ron's been down here 604 00:27:33,133 --> 00:27:36,266 to Parowan and meeting all my friends. 605 00:27:37,467 --> 00:27:39,567 Oh, eggs are gonna need to be cooked, too, at some point. 606 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,000 How is he going to act? 607 00:27:45,033 --> 00:27:50,000 I'm just gonna let him do his thing and observe 608 00:27:50,433 --> 00:27:51,100 and just watch. 609 00:27:53,367 --> 00:27:54,667 I hope he can handle it. 610 00:27:56,467 --> 00:27:58,000 Love Parowan. Yeah, I haven't spent 611 00:27:58,533 --> 00:27:59,767 a lot of time here. 612 00:28:00,834 --> 00:28:02,000 I saw last night the "P" all lit up on the hill, 613 00:28:03,266 --> 00:28:04,767 and that was kind of fun to see, but it looks like a great town. 614 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,000 I'm really, really happy that she invited me. 615 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,266 Ron just is kind of, like, pitching in and doing 616 00:28:14,266 --> 00:28:15,467 whatever he needs to do when he needs to do it, 617 00:28:16,133 --> 00:28:16,667 and I just appreciate that. 618 00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:18,500 It's a good sign of a good person to just, like, 619 00:28:19,033 --> 00:28:19,467 pitch in like that. 620 00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:21,767 We'll find out if he's a good cook. 621 00:28:22,333 --> 00:28:23,800 [indistinct chattering] 622 00:28:27,467 --> 00:28:28,667 [Ron] Oh, good, you did scramble. 623 00:28:29,734 --> 00:28:31,100 I'm like, "Do I need to keep the yolks whole? No." 624 00:28:32,133 --> 00:28:33,000 I mean, I'm assuming we're doing scrambled eggs. 625 00:28:33,967 --> 00:28:34,667 Yeah, I like that. That's what I'd do, yeah. 626 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,600 I think it's just because there's so many. 627 00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:38,000 -Hi. -You're cooking? -- hi. 628 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:39,400 -Oh, yeah. -Sorry -- thanks. 629 00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:40,767 We have this all under control. 630 00:28:41,467 --> 00:28:42,200 [Meri] What -- what happened? 631 00:28:43,166 --> 00:28:43,567 [Amber] We had the tag-team in a little bit. 632 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,767 What happened? 633 00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:46,567 They're not burnt, they're just taking a little while. 634 00:28:47,367 --> 00:28:48,500 Oh, those look good. Look at that. 635 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:51,567 I guess Ron and Amber were working on the eggs, 636 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,266 and he was cracking them, and there was shells. 637 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,600 It was -- it was not 638 00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:00,700 it was not a gentle egg crack. 639 00:29:02,066 --> 00:29:05,100 -[Ron] Can't fix burning these. -[laughing] 640 00:29:05,867 --> 00:29:06,767 [Meri] They're not fried either. 641 00:29:07,433 --> 00:29:09,066 We're working on it, it's... 642 00:29:09,934 --> 00:29:10,300 -That looks... -She's making scrambled. 643 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:12,000 I thought we were doing scrambled. 644 00:29:13,133 --> 00:29:14,367 Oh, you didn't get the message that we're doing fried? 645 00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:17,266 -[Amber] Where was that message? -[Ron] Yeah... [mumbles] 646 00:29:17,967 --> 00:29:19,200 I think it's cute. Thank you. 647 00:29:20,033 --> 00:29:20,967 -It's something, Meri. -I thank you. 648 00:29:21,467 --> 00:29:22,667 I thank you a lot. 649 00:29:23,433 --> 00:29:24,166 [Amber] We'll do fried next time. 650 00:29:25,233 --> 00:29:26,000 [Meri] I think they're good. I think they're good. 651 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:27,367 [Amber] Like this. 652 00:29:28,533 --> 00:29:29,900 [Shawnee] Amber, you want me to crack eggs back on there? 653 00:29:30,734 --> 00:29:31,200 Well, I didn't get the memo, Shawnee, 654 00:29:32,367 --> 00:29:34,166 that we're doing fried eggs, and not scrambled the eggs. 655 00:29:34,834 --> 00:29:36,467 So I just did scramble eggs. 656 00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:38,900 -Who's in charge of her? -You are! 657 00:29:39,433 --> 00:29:41,000 [laughing] I'm not. 658 00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:45,567 Listen, next time you guys create a whole plan 659 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,166 around the plan, you've got to put it 660 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:48,700 in the group chat so the whole group chat 661 00:29:49,133 --> 00:29:49,767 knows the plan. 662 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:50,967 Is she even in a group chat with us? 663 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,100 -[gasps] -[Shawnee] I don't even know. 664 00:29:52,934 --> 00:29:53,300 I'm going to start my own group chat. 665 00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:55,266 We have our own private group chat. 666 00:29:55,633 --> 00:29:57,867 [laughing] 667 00:29:58,300 --> 00:29:59,300 Ron was funny. 668 00:30:00,467 --> 00:30:02,500 He kind of was like backing out of the whole conversation. 669 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:04,200 He's like, "I don't know what's happening here." 670 00:30:05,767 --> 00:30:08,467 Amber had no idea that Shawnee and I thought, 671 00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:11,767 "Oh, well, it'll be easier to just do fried eggs 672 00:30:12,433 --> 00:30:13,400 rather than scrambled eggs." 673 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:14,767 Might want to keep me in the loop. 674 00:30:15,767 --> 00:30:17,367 We're not getting fried eggs next time either. 675 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:19,767 Yeah, Ron was like, "This is a girl thing. 676 00:30:20,333 --> 00:30:20,800 "This is a you thing. 677 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,100 "I think I'm going to take my leave right now. 678 00:30:24,934 --> 00:30:27,200 "Not getting involved in this whole 679 00:30:27,767 --> 00:30:29,567 scrambled egg fiasco." 680 00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:45,467 With Christine and David, I needed a private setting. 681 00:30:46,633 --> 00:30:48,567 There's a restaurant with a private room at this hotel. 682 00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:50,500 It's great. Here's the thing. 683 00:30:51,567 --> 00:30:54,567 I'm projecting an expectation that this will be... 684 00:30:56,567 --> 00:30:57,500 kind. 685 00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:58,900 I mean, like, friendly. 686 00:30:59,934 --> 00:31:01,800 Like, this will be, I hope, a friendly exchange. 687 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,767 -[David] I don't count. -[Christine laughing] Thank you. 688 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:08,800 -I don't count. -[normally] This is nice. 689 00:31:09,567 --> 00:31:10,000 -Very nice. -This is very nice. 690 00:31:10,967 --> 00:31:12,600 -Very large room. -It is a very large room. 691 00:31:13,033 --> 00:31:13,700 Thank you, love. 692 00:31:21,867 --> 00:31:23,767 It is a very large room. Who else is coming? 693 00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:30,867 Don't. Is anybody else coming? 694 00:31:31,533 --> 00:31:32,000 I don't know. You tell me. 695 00:31:32,433 --> 00:31:33,000 No, you tell me. 696 00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:34,667 What do you know that I don't know? 697 00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:36,300 I don't know. Surprise. 698 00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:37,400 Oh, my God! 699 00:31:39,667 --> 00:31:40,867 -[host] How are you? -Good, thanks. 700 00:31:41,867 --> 00:31:43,200 Um, I'm supposed to meet a couple other people. 701 00:31:43,767 --> 00:31:44,367 My name is Kody Brown. 702 00:31:45,467 --> 00:31:45,867 -[host] Yeah, right this way. -All right, thank you. 703 00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:50,667 If there's a surprise, there's going to be... 704 00:31:51,633 --> 00:31:52,600 -We got a lot of people, one two... -I know. 705 00:31:53,734 --> 00:31:55,367 It looks like a family meal. Babe, we need this table. 706 00:31:56,233 --> 00:31:56,900 I think the last time we talked about 707 00:31:58,066 --> 00:32:01,166 our relationship, may very well have been when she told me 708 00:32:02,133 --> 00:32:03,266 we're done -- she's done and she wants to move. 709 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,967 You're like, "I'm divorced. I'm leaving. 710 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:09,400 "I'm done with you. 711 00:32:09,967 --> 00:32:11,066 You're out of my house." 712 00:32:11,633 --> 00:32:12,567 You never tried to have 713 00:32:13,633 --> 00:32:15,166 a really good relationship with these other people. 714 00:32:16,233 --> 00:32:17,967 And that's the reason I'm pissed off. 715 00:32:19,133 --> 00:32:21,867 I mean, I didn't react really positively to any of that. 716 00:32:23,066 --> 00:32:24,867 I am walking into an environment where trust has been killed. 717 00:32:25,533 --> 00:32:26,100 I mean, we don't have trust. 718 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,266 But I am walking into an -- an environment 719 00:32:29,333 --> 00:32:31,500 where I have said, "I am offering an olive branch." 720 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,200 So with the olive branch, I'm gonna extend the hand 721 00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:37,066 of fellowship, and it might go to a hug. 722 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:41,500 Thanks, Lexi. Hey. 723 00:32:42,367 --> 00:32:43,066 -[Christine] Hey -- hi. -[Kody laughs] 724 00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,467 That's a really big table. 725 00:32:46,133 --> 00:32:47,467 Oh, it's too big of a table. 726 00:32:48,166 --> 00:32:48,567 -So how's it going? -I know. 727 00:32:49,667 --> 00:32:50,900 I was telling David that we needed to have one of those 728 00:32:52,066 --> 00:32:52,667 when the kids were younger. -[Kody] How are you, David? 729 00:32:53,533 --> 00:32:53,967 [David] Not too bad. How are you, sir? 730 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,266 [Kody] I'm good. 731 00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:57,667 Yeah, I asked for David to be present with Christine because 732 00:32:58,767 --> 00:33:00,066 they're married and I wanna respect their marriage. 733 00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,467 I'm just hoping he will not interrupt 734 00:33:04,033 --> 00:33:06,100 my effort to apologize. 735 00:33:07,066 --> 00:33:08,266 Thanks for meeting with me. 736 00:33:09,667 --> 00:33:11,500 Suck those beers down because I got some fun stuff 737 00:33:12,433 --> 00:33:12,767 to share with you. -[Christine] Oh, my God. 738 00:33:13,834 --> 00:33:14,033 -And it's all good. -[Christine] Now I'm nervous. 739 00:33:15,367 --> 00:33:15,567 [Kody] No, no, no. Don't be nervous, I promise. 740 00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:24,567 [upbeat music playing] 741 00:33:26,567 --> 00:33:28,100 [indistinct chattering] 742 00:33:29,066 --> 00:33:31,567 Jenn is basically, she means the world to me. 743 00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:35,266 She's my best friend of, what, 13 years now? 744 00:33:36,266 --> 00:33:39,667 I am so happy that so many people in the town 745 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:40,800 showed up for this. 746 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,500 I love the sense of community here that you get in a small 747 00:33:51,333 --> 00:33:52,900 town that you don't get in a big city. 748 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,500 OK, I got it. 749 00:33:57,633 --> 00:33:59,400 [Meri] Shawn came -- Jenn told him, "You have to come. 750 00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:00,600 "You're not coming to the bike ride, 751 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:02,400 but you have to come to this." 752 00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:05,700 This big of a healing journey, 753 00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:09,467 you know, to make sure that he heals so he can 754 00:34:10,767 --> 00:34:13,867 be around for his family, it has definitely taken 755 00:34:14,667 --> 00:34:15,767 an emotional toll on both of them, 756 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,367 at -- at times, you know. 757 00:34:18,867 --> 00:34:20,767 But they're both, like, 758 00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:21,867 getting through it. 759 00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:25,166 Meri is like -- like a sister to me. 760 00:34:25,734 --> 00:34:26,467 People don't understand. 761 00:34:27,700 --> 00:34:29,767 I try to let her be and try to stay out of as much as I can. 762 00:34:30,834 --> 00:34:31,467 And then I'll help her and I'll do things for her. 763 00:34:32,333 --> 00:34:33,667 But I see love like you won't believe. 764 00:34:34,467 --> 00:34:36,400 I see so much of a caring person. 765 00:34:37,467 --> 00:34:38,700 And people don't realize that and understand that. 766 00:34:39,633 --> 00:34:40,567 But she means a lot to me, like the world. 767 00:34:41,367 --> 00:34:42,000 I know what she means to my wife. 768 00:34:43,066 --> 00:34:45,567 They're like that team, you know, that strong bond. 769 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,667 And so I just, I adore her to death. 770 00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,367 Hold on. Ready? 771 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,000 -Catch. -You'll guys will -- [laughs] 772 00:34:53,867 --> 00:34:54,667 -It's fine -- it'll be fine. -Good job. 773 00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:56,100 [Jenn] It's just, it's a great day. 774 00:34:57,467 --> 00:34:58,867 I didn't... 775 00:34:59,834 --> 00:35:01,667 I didn't expect this, and I'm just grateful. 776 00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:04,600 We conquered. We did it all, Audrey. 777 00:35:05,166 --> 00:35:06,166 [indistinct chattering] 778 00:35:07,233 --> 00:35:09,000 I'm really lucky to have such an amazing best friend. 779 00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:11,567 She's always there for me, and I'm so lucky for that. 780 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:12,967 -Let me see that -- -Requested a picture with me 781 00:35:13,967 --> 00:35:14,266 and Shawnee first. -[Meri] Of course they did. 782 00:35:15,433 --> 00:35:15,633 -Now we can take the picture? -[Amber] We don't know... 783 00:35:16,867 --> 00:35:17,066 [Meri's friends chattering and laughing] 784 00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:18,767 [Ron] OK. 785 00:35:19,467 --> 00:35:19,800 Our yellows and our pink shirts. 786 00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:21,467 -Meri? OK. [Meri] It's very, very spring. 787 00:35:22,266 --> 00:35:24,700 [Ron] All right, one, two, three. 788 00:35:25,133 --> 00:35:25,767 OK. Got it. 789 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,767 -[all] Yay! -[Jenn] Thank you, guys! 790 00:35:29,166 --> 00:35:30,500 [Meri] I'm glad that Ron came. 791 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,900 Yeah, I'm glad Ron came. 792 00:35:35,867 --> 00:35:36,400 Like, I think it's cute that he's just like, 793 00:35:37,467 --> 00:35:38,867 "Oh, what can I do to help?" And he's just helping. 794 00:35:40,367 --> 00:35:42,166 [Jenn] I think that Ron is a really nice guy. 795 00:35:43,066 --> 00:35:43,967 And as soon as Meri had mentioned to him 796 00:35:45,233 --> 00:35:46,567 that we were doing this, he was like, "I'm down, I'll be there." 797 00:35:47,133 --> 00:35:49,000 And I just, I love that. 798 00:35:50,133 --> 00:35:50,767 I thought he was a really nice guy when I first met him 799 00:35:51,734 --> 00:35:52,400 at speed dating. And I thought, you know what? 800 00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:54,066 They would get along really well. 801 00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:56,600 And they tend to. So it worked out really well. 802 00:35:57,533 --> 00:35:59,567 You know, it's different dating in your 50s. 803 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:02,266 But you just, you know, I've been on a lot of dates 804 00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:04,800 the last couple years, but I love it when you meet 805 00:36:05,633 --> 00:36:07,000 someone who's genuine and very nice 806 00:36:07,834 --> 00:36:08,600 and easy to, you know, easy talk to. 807 00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:11,567 And, you know, with Meri, like, just her inviting me down here 808 00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:12,567 made me feel great. 809 00:36:13,533 --> 00:36:14,300 And she's been, you know, she's been great. 810 00:36:15,266 --> 00:36:16,767 "How you doing?" You know, and she let me help. 811 00:36:17,867 --> 00:36:18,700 I just said, "Let me help. Give me something to do." 812 00:36:19,834 --> 00:36:21,367 And so that was really fun. But I do appreciate, um... 813 00:36:22,233 --> 00:36:24,066 I can tell Meri's just really genuine. 814 00:36:24,734 --> 00:36:26,166 Just a great, great person. 815 00:36:27,133 --> 00:36:28,500 It was super fun. It was a really good day. 816 00:36:29,433 --> 00:36:33,100 And Ron came, and that was super fun, too. 817 00:36:34,266 --> 00:36:37,600 I loved being able to, you know, just see how he interacts 818 00:36:38,433 --> 00:36:40,266 with kind of in my world, you know, 819 00:36:40,834 --> 00:36:41,367 like with my friends. 820 00:36:42,433 --> 00:36:43,900 It's like, and then also, do my friends like him? 821 00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:46,066 And does he, you know what I mean? 822 00:36:46,734 --> 00:36:47,900 And I don't know. He fits. 823 00:36:54,066 --> 00:36:55,900 [tense music playing] 824 00:36:56,934 --> 00:36:59,600 [Kody] She seems amiable, and he seems amiable. 825 00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:02,667 My best guess is that Christine's gotten over it 826 00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:05,000 and moving on very happily, 827 00:37:06,066 --> 00:37:08,467 or, and or, David has said, "Hey, baby, you know, 828 00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:09,800 "you ought to talk to the ex of yours 829 00:37:10,467 --> 00:37:11,400 and maybe get some healing." 830 00:37:12,467 --> 00:37:15,700 We've lost trust, but we're trying to establish... 831 00:37:16,667 --> 00:37:18,667 friendly, and we do that with an olive branch. 832 00:37:19,734 --> 00:37:22,400 Christine's not a confrontational person usually. 833 00:37:22,934 --> 00:37:24,100 She can get pushed. 834 00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:25,867 She usually is not confrontational. 835 00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:29,266 So she's probably wants... 836 00:37:29,967 --> 00:37:31,300 you know, my reaction seeing her 837 00:37:32,133 --> 00:37:35,000 is that she wants something amiable. 838 00:37:36,467 --> 00:37:37,567 Why'd you want to meet together? 839 00:37:38,133 --> 00:37:38,767 I wanted to apologize. 840 00:37:40,367 --> 00:37:41,367 With all my heart. 841 00:37:43,667 --> 00:37:44,667 Uh... 842 00:37:52,867 --> 00:37:55,467 For how we broke up, for how it all went down. 843 00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:58,967 I want to apologize for being angry about it. 844 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,567 I want to apologize for... 845 00:38:03,667 --> 00:38:07,367 uh, [exhales], the struggles. 846 00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:11,367 That's not necessary what I -- OK, let's go. 847 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,467 Bam, bam, bam. Let's just do it then. 848 00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:16,400 I'm all for this. I'm actually all for 849 00:38:17,633 --> 00:38:20,266 a conversation that goes, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. 850 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,767 Just the hard times. 851 00:38:23,767 --> 00:38:27,667 I also want to just acknowledge the good times. 852 00:38:34,867 --> 00:38:36,300 I want you to be able to heal. 853 00:38:40,867 --> 00:38:43,266 -[Christine] I -- -And healing will probably... 854 00:38:44,767 --> 00:38:46,200 can maybe happen. 855 00:38:47,233 --> 00:38:47,867 I can't tell you how it's gonna happen or what. 856 00:38:50,266 --> 00:38:53,066 But I just feel like if I apologize, 857 00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:55,867 you can get in that space where you feel like you're healing. 858 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,100 Also, understand this -- it's in the past. 859 00:39:03,066 --> 00:39:04,000 -It's in the past, and it's OK. -[Kody Yeah. 860 00:39:04,667 --> 00:39:05,467 But an apology doesn't hurt. 861 00:39:06,433 --> 00:39:08,500 Apologies are nice, but I'm saying it's OK. 862 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,767 If I wouldn't have 863 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,000 messed it up, then you wouldn't have what you have. 864 00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:19,000 Later, you might wanna punch me. 865 00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:21,266 Right now, you probably still really appreciate it. 866 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,767 The thing is, like when I talk to Christine about you, 867 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,000 I see it from a guy's point of view. 868 00:39:27,567 --> 00:39:28,266 -I really do. -Hmm. 869 00:39:29,433 --> 00:39:31,467 [David] I get where you're coming from in a lot of ways. 870 00:39:32,433 --> 00:39:35,867 I appreciate the, sort of, the vote of grace. 871 00:39:36,834 --> 00:39:38,000 -[Christine] Yeah. -[Kody] David, thank you. 872 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,166 I appreciate what David's sharing. 873 00:39:43,033 --> 00:39:45,000 It's the only -- it's the only difficulty 874 00:39:46,066 --> 00:39:50,066 in apologizing to my ex while her husband is here is 875 00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:52,467 that he wants to be involved in the conversation, 876 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,000 and it's not an apology to him or from him. 877 00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:58,066 I, uh... 878 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,567 I apologize, here's the huge one, 879 00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:05,000 for saying I didn't love you. 880 00:40:05,567 --> 00:40:07,100 [tense music playing] 881 00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:12,600 I was angry, and that wasn't cool. 882 00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:23,667 Again, you just got to let that go. 883 00:40:24,433 --> 00:40:26,600 Look, I remember what it was like. 884 00:40:27,433 --> 00:40:28,367 But I've got a new husband here now. 885 00:40:29,367 --> 00:40:30,767 That's weird, man. That's a weird thing to say. 886 00:40:31,467 --> 00:40:32,700 I have a husband right here now. 887 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,467 You know, I used to love you. 888 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:36,667 I can't imagine what's going through David's head right now. 889 00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:40,166 I'm like, "Oh, that's -- that's a, look, I know." 890 00:40:40,734 --> 00:40:41,967 That doesn't affect me. 891 00:40:42,667 --> 00:40:43,467 That's you. That is on you. 892 00:40:45,867 --> 00:40:48,000 [Kody] Next time on "Sister Wives." 893 00:40:48,834 --> 00:40:49,367 [Christine] This is my husband here. 894 00:40:49,867 --> 00:40:51,467 This is so weird. 895 00:40:52,367 --> 00:40:52,967 [David] You know damn well you loved her, 896 00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:54,200 because you wouldn't have gotten married, 897 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:55,867 you wouldn't have had all these kids if you didn't love her. 898 00:40:56,767 --> 00:40:57,400 There is so much water under the bridge. 899 00:40:58,367 --> 00:41:00,467 -I'm here to apologize. -Start with your kids. 900 00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:01,700 [Robyn] There just seems to be this, ke, 901 00:41:02,367 --> 00:41:03,600 constant piling and piling. 902 00:41:04,433 --> 00:41:05,700 We talked about the spiritual divorce, 903 00:41:06,266 --> 00:41:07,166 and I think I'm ready. 904 00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:10,000 But I'm a little bit intimidated to go talk to those guys 905 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,767 who I haven't talked to in forever. 906 00:41:12,333 --> 00:41:13,100 Call, text, I dare you. 907 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,867 I'm actually gonna just do it right now. 908 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,200 -[gasps] Do it. -OK. 909 00:41:17,934 --> 00:41:19,266 It is sent, Meri. It is sent. 910 00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:22,567 So I'm having a conversation tomorrow with Kody. 911 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,000 Haven't you been divorced for over a damn year? 912 00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:26,367 Some ugly things have happened, 913 00:41:27,233 --> 00:41:28,667 so I really don't know what to expect.