[man] Previously on Sister Wives...
Mykelti's finally in labor now.
She's a couple days late.
-[groaning] -[indistinct conversation]
[screaming]
Avalon's heartbeat just dropped.
Now is the time for Mykelti to really push.
And push with everything you got. Everything.
Do it. Get it out.
That cord was wrapped around her
three or four times.
[Kody] I've had three of these four women threaten to leave me
for a significant part of the marriages.
It's not a new thing to be threatened to be left.
You and I have intimacy.
A couple times a year doesn't work for a marriage.
If you don't want to be married to me anymore,
you don't want to have an intimate marriage with me anymore,
flippin' tell me.
It is cowardly. Man the [bleep] up!
Come on!
[upbeat instrumental music playing]
[Christine] I'm back home again. I just got back from St. George, Utah.
Oh, my gosh!
Avalon is born now.
Mykelti had her beautiful baby girl.
She had her at home.
Come see her.
Oh, she's adorable.
-She has so much hair. -Right?
Gosh, she's so pretty. She looks just like Tony.
[Christine] I didn't know Tony would be such a beautiful girl.
I had no idea.
'Cause Avalon looks just like him.
Tony has slipped right into fatherhood.
He demands on holding the baby like all the time.
I barely had enough all my time.
He feels already frustrated that Mykelti breastfeeds
because she gets Avalon so much longer than he does.
It's super cute.
It's exactly what a mom wants to see.
A mom wants to see her daughter's husband
obsessing about their children and he is.
It's just really, really, really cute.
So, I mean I've got a lot going on at home.
I need to tell the wives
that I've left Kody.
This is where it's headed.
I'm leaving.
And now we need to kind of figure out
how do we co-parent the rest of the kids,
what are we going to do.
[instrumental music playing]
-What's the matter? -[Kody] Oh, gosh. [sighs]
[Kody] Just, uh, a lot of pressure.
We bought Coyote Pass three years ago.
And I still plan on...
you know, building out there and living out there.
But this whole thing with Christine,
telling me she's leaving, kicking me out of the house,
uh, could possibly put a big wrench in the plans
about what we do with Coyote Pass.
Okay, so, I talked to the realtor today.
And she said, you know, my landlord's house,
it's a smoking deal.
My landlord is selling the house that I'm renting.
[Janelle] And the price they're offering
is a really good deal for the market in Flagstaff.
And I thought about it 'cause it's a fixer upper.
I'd love it. I love the neighborhood.
And it would be just easy to stay.
But if I were to get this mortgage on this property in town,
it's the same money that would really give me
a very healthy start here, building.
So, I'd rather build than to actually buy.
I'm like, why get a mortgage on that house when it basically starts us here?
I mean I have to live in a trailer
for few months.
But we have to figure out
property lines
and where we're gonna build and how do I finance and...
we want to build... I want to build something small
that I could be in within about six months.
Our biggest struggle with financing is...
or with anything is getting the property lines
which requires we... I think that we pay off
the land.
[Kody] When we first bought Coyote Pass
we were planning on buying two lots.
And then we ended up buying four.
But now we're trying to take our four lots,
reconfigure them into five lots.
In doing that, we basically have to go through a process of paying off the property,
surveying, changing lot lines,
and then at that point, Janelle will have a lot
that she'll be able to start building on.
I really don't know what will happen with the property
with Christine leaving.
Will she give that property to us? Will we have to buy that property from her?
Will she sell that property? I have no idea.
I... I'm not sure how we're gonna do it.
I don't know. But here's the thing.
I basically don't have anywhere to live in two months.
And I don't want-- Our realtor said,
"It is easier to get a house than it is to get a rental right now."
Robyn and I found a ton of houses to rent.
We couldn't find one big enough.
It'd be easier for Janelle to find a rental than Robyn
'cause she's only got to house Savanah.
[Janelle] I don't get it.
Kody is so always twisted up about this thing.
Like, I don't have a house.
I don't have a house.
I think I can buy an RV, like a trailer.
I can bring it out here for a few months and we can stay in it
and I'll pour all my resources into starting the house built.
So, okay.
I actually called the RV dealer.
There is one of the models in the entire country
that I want.
[chuckles softly] I was worried about that.
But no, there's one more left. And it's actually brand new.
In a past life, many, many moons ago
Janelle and I, when Logan was baby
lived in a really tiny mobile home.
I don't see the benefit in it, really, other than we're gonna be living
right where we're building.
Certainly would be motivational.
Maybe it works. I... I... I still am thinking,
you know, like can't we give renting a chance?
So, I put money down on it today.
-Oh, you put money down on it? -[laughs] I did.
-I mean, Kody... -Well, that's a pretty good idea.
...it's the only one in the country. I'm like...
'cause it's really hard, I guess, to get campers right now.
And at no cost they'll ship it to Utah?
Yeah. Can your truck haul it?
No.
-Really? -My truck won't haul that.
-Fifteen thousand. -No, no.
Okay, so we buy something that hauls it.
In the next week or two.
-No, you put money down on it. -Yeah.
Are you committed all the way?
Well, I could potentially lose my money, I guess.
Ugh, okay.
Yeah, it's hard.
I mean, uh...
[sighs]
It's kind of one of those weird things like, "Do I wanna live in an RV?
Will this work for us?" She's already doing it.
And she's making the choice.
But it's not our choice. It's her choice.
You have to know I am... I am between like...
I'm so excited about the adventure,
but I have like this-- I wake up at 2:00 every morning with a panic attack
'cause I'm like, holy crap, what am I doing!
I mean, look, I could stay in town. I could buy that house,
but then it's just the same old, same old.
I wanna be bold and I wanna like do this
and take some risks because then I think the property happens.
Yeah.
This is all being executed without a plan
because Janelle wants an RV and she wanted that RV
and it was the only RV and she had to buy the RV.
Listen, I'm willing to do it. Savanah's willing to do it.
But Savanah really wants us to be building something,
so like, she wants to see like that. She's been saying,
"Mom, I can't live there without this idea
"that it's gonna be temporary--"
What'd do you about Gabriel and Garrison?
Gabriel said he's going to find an apartment.
-He's been thinking about it anyway. -[Kody] Really?
Garrison will probably just pull his trailer out here. [chuckling]
Oh! [sighs]
I'm being really supportive. I really-- You know, like, Janelle's excited about this
and it seems okay.
But when I start thinking about the step by step,
I'm starting to go, "This is nuts."
Man, we got some work to do.
[Janelle] But Kody, it is starting-- It is starting us.
Instead of this out time, you know out of sight, out of mind thing
It's basically open... It's blown the door wide open.
You're gonna stay with me at the trailer, though, right?
-[laughs heartily] -Oh, yeah.
-Okay. -Sounds like a luxury vacation.
Well, here's the funny thing in a plural marriage.
Your wife works with you or works against you.
Janelle and I would be teammates sometimes
and wouldn't be sometimes.
Christine was usually fairly compliant.
Then when we decided we didn't want to move to Utah,
when Christine wanted to move to Utah, she was like well, "I'm going to Utah."
So Christine became suddenly very independent.
At the start, Meri was working with me fairly well.
Robyn's whole goal
when she came in the family was to become
part of this family and work together with our family.
I got a feeling through this experience
that each wife has a breaking point
where they're just not gonna put up with whatever
the other wives' needs are anymore,
and they're, like, gonna do their own thing.
And Janelle has done that before.
-Man, we've got a lot to do. -Hey, it's just--
Honey, like I said, it just basically blew the door open for us.
Like, it was sort of, like, we have to.
Yeah, well, if you've got the RV,
then the issue is we don't have to worry immediately about getting a home.
We can wait for the permit to go through the process.
Yeah, the last time we had to move, it was just crazy.
Ever since... I got PTSD from that.
-I know. -I mean it's like literally driving me nuts...
-I know. I got it. Okay. -...that it's happening over and over.
There's no storage units in town anywhere. Nowhere.
We'll get that figured out.
Look, Kody is sometimes...
I tell him stuff and I don't think
sometimes he really listens.
And I think he's like... [mimics gibberish talk]
You know, whatever. I don't know.
I've been talking to him about this and he's like,
"What? You're buying a trailer? What? What?"
Like... [laughing] I don't know.
Okay, so I guess in the next month or so
I'll have a trailer out here.
-[Kody] Yes. -[Janelle] Okay. [laughs]
I'm telling my sister wives that I'm leaving Kody.
I was so worried this is what you were gonna talk about.
I'm not happy right now.
I'm not happy with this situation.
I mean, how do we unravel something
that's been together for this long?
There isn't an unravelling.
Come on you guys,
can we all just get our heads out of our butts?
[instrumental music playing]
Ugh!
Super, super infuriating phone call. Oh, my gosh!
We got back home
right into the mix of things
and Kody and my relationship is just bad. It's just really bad.
And [sighs] anyway...
Before Avalon was born, the adults had a video call
and it was so frustrating.
School's back in session.
Everybody can choose go back to school.
It's Ysabel's senior year and she wants to go back to school.
All right. Let's talk about school and COVID-19
and new school policies. What's going on?
[Christine] So Ysabel initially, like, we were told
they could all go back to the classroom
So, I would, like, prefer to go in person.
I don't know what that means though.
I don't know if that means that Kody you can't come over anymore,
since she's gonna go back to school.
Is that what that means?
But it's like going to-- I don't know.
Oh, God.
So, Kody, he's like hinting, humming, hi-ing
and he asked Breanna to not go back to school in person.
But he's not like asking Ysabel to not go back in person.
I've no idea why she's upset
by the idea of Ysabel going back to school.
You know, Robyn and I, we made this agreement with Breanna.
Well, I... I... I've specifically asked that
Breanna and Solomon not go back to school.
Christine's been doing a completely different thing in her home.
She's been traveling.
She's been doing things. She's been out and about.
And it is Ysabel's senior year.
So, I don't see why she's mad.
I'm just saying it's fine if Ysabel goes to school.
[Christine] I would've thought he would call Ysabel and say, "Hey,
for school I'd prefer if you wouldn't go back in person.
Can we talk about this a little bit?"
But he never even talked to her.
She has to choose between her dad or her friends.
But she can't have both.
I'm like, it's not true. It's not up to her.
Kody's making this choice.
You know, Christine's complaining like I'm never there anyway.
And so, I'm like, Ysabel can go to school then.
Ysabel wants to see her friends more anyway.
[scoffs] I just like...
I didn't create this problem.
Don't be mad at me because I've got standards.
Part of me would love it if he would say,
"Ysabel, please don't go back to school
because I wanna see you and spend time with you."
But then the other part of me is like,
that's not really fair for Ysabel. She should be able to go to school
and be with her friends.
And if I talk to him, it's just gonna go round
in circles and not come up with any better solution.
And in the end, he'll just come and hang out with us outside again,
which I hope he does.
But even if that was a possibility,
he was only doing it a couple of times a week, too.
I go there, I hang out with Truely and... and Ysabel a little bit.
And then they go to bed
while I'm still there.
She's moving away
to North Carolina.
And Kody's just completely missing out on this.
Uh, Ysabel is going to benefit more
by her senior year, having a lot of exposure with her friends,
than with me. But she'll be fine.
And I'll be there for her when she needs me.
She can call me anytime.
[Christine] So, Ysabel's gonna go out to school.
Kody's not gonna come over again.
I haven't told all the moms about me leaving yet.
I wanted to tell them a while ago
but it just hasn't worked out. I'm nervous. I'm okay.
I'm sad. Gosh.
Really sad.
[mimics gagging] I don't know.
[instrumental music playing]
I've done something very impulsive,
which is really out of my nature.
This is really big.
I [chuckles softly] can't believe I did it.
But whatever.
-Hello. Hey, guys. -Hey.
So, I'm having everybody come over
'cause I'm gonna tell them
that I bought a trailer.
Janelle, your backyard's lovely.
It's also super friendly.
[chuckles]
Thorny bushes.
They're raspberries.
-They're raspberries. -Raspberries.
So, yeah. I'm just gonna...
Ta-da! I bought an RV.
Okay, guys. So I have some,
I think,
exciting news.
Terrifying and exciting.
You're the only person I know that would call this exciting.
[laughs]
[Janelle] Okay, so I have to be out of this rental June 30th.
June 30th?
[Christine] No!
So, here's the thing. I bought a fifth wheel.
[Robyn] No, you didn't!
[Janelle] And I'm moving out on the property.
-[Robyn] Oh, my gosh. -On a fifth wheel?
Janelle's dream coming true.
Yeah, so a fifth wheel is actually just a trailer that you pull with a truck.
I would never.
That sounds like my definition of absolute hell.
But Janelle has always wanted
the rural, living off the land.
[Janelle] I like camping. I do.
I used to camp a lot more when I was younger.
[Christine] Robyn and I are gonna stay in hotels
and Meri and Janelle are gonna stay in RVs.
All right. I thought I'd have to...
-Fight for it? -...fight for it.
I'm with ya. You want an RV.
[all laughing]
And you're gonna park it out on that property.
I want an RV. Why am I in a rental?
I would live in a RV. I would. I'm like high-key jealous.
-You're with-- -Guess what!
-You're with my dream man. -RVs have wheels.
She has always wanted to do this.
It's a very, very nice fifth wheel.
It has two bedrooms, two bathrooms.
You're moving out on to the property?
Yeah.
It seems so crazy.
Does it seem crazy only to me?
It can't seem crazy only to me.
If that's what Janelle wants to do,
then that's what Janelle should so.
I would never do it.
Like that... that sounds miserable to me.
But, um, I don't know.
Yeah, uh, just, uh... Pfft.
I could qualify for a mortgage on this...
-[Meri] For what? -... if they wanted.
But when I started looking at what they wanted me to pay for this one, I'm like,
I would rather put that same amount of money out there.
Yeah.
And I'm like, okay.
So I called the dealership
and they found the only one available in the entire country.
I've bought it sight unseen.
What?
[laughing heartily]
I can't even...
Sight unseen?
[sighs] Okay. Hmm.
I wouldn't ever buy anything sight unseen.
That is crazy.
Okay, that's not true. I do shopping online.
I have to buy a truck to pull this thing.
[snorts, laughs]
[Christine] Can't like Kody's truck pull--
-[Janelle] No, it's too big -[Kody] No, my truck is tiny.
What about my car? My car is a really bad, [indistinct]
I've never even seen a fifth wheel.
I've no idea at all what I'm talking about.
My truck is way too small
to be pulling this huge trailer that she bought.
I just know that Kody has a wussy truck.
[upbeat instrumental music playing]
[Janelle] So, I bought an RV, sight unseen,
and I'm going to move it out on the property
and I'm going to live there.
I'm just going to do that. I mean... just jump, jump
without a parachute
'cause I wanna build on the property
and I feel like if I'm on that property
and it's in my face every day,
and I'm focusing my resources there,
I can make it happen.
[Christine] How do you know about this?
I could qualify for a mortgage on this...
-[Christine] For what? Oh. -...if I wanted.
But it would tie me here.
I would have no ability...
-[Christine] No. -... to do anything else.
Yeah, no.
[Janelle] I mean this house is great.
How long do you think that this is gonna last?
[Janelle] So, I think we'll start building...
Two months, three months, four months.
[Kody laughs sarcastically]
Okay, so, I would like to see...
I'm planning on a year in the RV.
Whoa! So you'll winterize it--
Well, I-- This is my hope is that we'll be able
to start building that Janelle could actually have
a casita finished on the property...
-[Christine] Oh. -... by December.
[instrumental music playing]
[Christina] Winters, out where we live by the property,
are brutal.
I really just need to be supportive.
But I know what it's like living out there
in the winter and it's brutal.
I'm moving in in May.
Oh, okay.
Sure. We're gonna have so much fun.
[Meri] I'm not quite sure why she's trying to pump us up about the excitement
'cause it's not like we're living there with her.
Unless she's, like, feeling like she needs
to be validated or something 'cause maybe Kody's not backing her all the way.
It's not like the olden days
where we used to all live together.
We had to, like, be in agreement
to live in this RV with her,
you know, 'cause that's not happening.
I wanted to put a... a bathroom out there anyway.
-You did. You always have. -[Janelle laughs]
-So fun. -[Christine] There you go.
-Fire pits will be so much more fun, right? -Yes.
She's been talking about putting a bathroom
out there for a long time.
This is just a really expensive outhouse.
[Kody and Meri laughing]
Time to, like, be bold
to make the property happen. Otherwise we would all sit
in our little houses and our rentals
and just keep doing what we are doing, and I just thought, "Okay!"
And maybe I fall flat on my face.
I don't, like, think so.
Look, I'm not asking them to come out and do this with me.
I'm not saying they should go get RVs.
I'm gonna do this and every sister's like,
"Oh, okay."
And I'm like, "Okay, well. I'm gonna have fun."
I'm gonna have fun.
There's some struggles that we've got.
We don't have electricity.
You don't have water yet.
Do you have a propane? And then as far as sewer,
do you have to... how often do you get...
What's all of that situation?
-[Janelle] There's a company. -[Kody] Somebody has to come and...
[Janelle] There's a service that comes out.
-There's a service that has to come out. -[Christine] Oh, okay.
'Cause I cannot drive this thing. In fact, I have to buy a truck
to pull this thing.
[snorts, laughs]
[Christine] Can't like Kody's truck pull...
-[Janelle] No, it's not... It's too big. -[Kody] No, my truck is tiny.
What about my car? My car is a really bad [indistinct]
[Kody] I'm sorry. Guess what?
-I'm just kidding. -[Janelle] No, it's like really...
[Kody] It's called the fifth wheel.
No, it's one of those things,
like, I have to have a one-ton truck
to pull it.
[chuckles] First of all,
she bought a cart without a horse.
I've never even seen a fifth wheel.
I've no idea at all what I'm talking about.
My truck is way too small to be pulling this
huge trailer that she bought.
I just know that Kody has a wussy truck.
We'll have cookouts at my house
and there's a bathroom.
You can plant some plastic plants.
-Yeah. -[Meri] You don't have to water.
[Christine laughs hysterically]
This is a dumb idea.
Even though it's exciting, it's a dumb idea.
[Kody] So, even in the fifth wheel
which is gonna feel really, really crammed,
does feel like a big step in the right direction rather than
buying this place.
I don't want this place.
I haven't really enjoyed living here.
I think that the fifth wheel on our land
stepping out of a fifth wheel door,
even though it's a fifth wheel,
and stepping out,
I'm like, "Hallelujah, I step out everyday"
-and there's our view, there's our place. -Well, it's...
-It's in our... It's in our face all the time. -Yes.
[Christine] I have no intention on living on the property.
I really need to tell everybody really badly, okay.
I actually really need to tell the adults.
They need to know that I have no intention of living on the property.
And I don't want my piece of property. I just don't.
I'm not gonna live out there. I don't see the point
in having a piece of property.
It's additional stress
that I don't have to have in my life.
So, ladies, let's do this.
In all of your prayers if you would,
in all of your thoughts,
let's get some energy behind the idea
of paying this place off... right away.
Let's get those thoughts going. Just...
If you've got a creative thought,
if you've got something you're thinking, anything...
Just... just go through that creative thought
and see where God guides us
to accomplish this goal. This is important.
[Christine] The next conversation we're gonna have
is gonna be a lot different than this.
It's gonna be heavy and I am going to tell them
that I'm leaving...
Kody and moving to Utah.
[exhales]
No secret that Kody and I have been in a rough spot for a long time.
And... I... have decided to leave.
What about Truely?
I think Truely's gonna be fine.
She'll miss everybody, of course
And it's gonna be hard, taking her from Kody
Oh, no. You can't take her from me.
Because we'll have to have a shared custody,
it'll have to be 50-50.
Well, hell. He could've had 50-50 time
with us the whole [bleep] time he lived here.
[somber music playing]
I'm telling my sister wives that I'm leaving Kody.
They're all gonna come over
and sit down outside,
'cause we can only sit outside, six feet apart.
And, I'm gonna tell them I'm leaving.
This isn't gonna be a surprise to any of them. It's just not.
-[Meri] Hello. -Hey, Meri. How's it going?
[Meri] Good.
[Christine] I think me leaving is very private.
Right now...
I don't want anyone to know but us.
So, we're using our phones to film it.
This is a private conversation
that I need private.
I need it to stay private. For now.
This is hard.
It's a hard thing and I want us all, five of us,
to hear it, and just us kind of create a little bubble
for us and,
let us just think about it.
Okay.
So I've needed to talk to you guys for a long time, that's true.
But with you moving out of your house,
I might figure now's the best time ever.
No secret that Kody and I have been in a rough spot for a long time.
And I...
have decided to leave. I'm gonna leave Kody.
Just leave.
It's a hard decision.
I need to make a choice for happiness.
I need to make a choice
to have joy in my life, and...
peace, and...
There hasn't been a lot of hope, at all.
Until I decided to leave.
I feel strongly this is the best choice.
For me.
I was so worried this is what you were gonna talk about.
Yeah... yeah.
No, it's final.
I... I'm in just... I'm in shock.
I don't really know what to say here,
I don't know what to say to her. Um...
I can't tell... I don't know, I can't...
It's not really computing.
Really, it's not really...
Ah, it's just not making sense right now. I don't know what to say.
This is...
This is just, um, a big...
[sighs] announcement.
Like, I'm not... I, I...
I don't even know...
I'm just processing at this point
So I... I mean I...
Look, I intellectually have known this was coming.
But here we are today, and it's...
It's hard to know something and then to have it actually happen.
Uh, I need to talk to you, specifically,
because I do...
um, plan on moving to Utah.
And...
I-- You want to rent this house.
Uh, okay, wait a minute.
-Um... -[Robyn laughs]
-Wait. -This is a lot, all of a sudden.
[Christine] It is a lot...
[Kody] So is that what's... what...
Christine, you felt like
you had to have this discussion with your sister wives because
of Janelle's need to move?
Janelle's need to move, definitely...
the timing is just... I've been looking for the perfect timing.
And there's been no...
-perfect timing. -This isn't something there is ever a good time.
No, no. And so with Janelle saying
that she needed to move, I'm like,
"Well, darn it, I guess I should've done it a month ago."
Well, okay so, this isn't obviously a surprise.
-You and I have had some discussions because... -[Christine] Right. Mm-hmm.
Because you've kind of said something to my kids
and you've texted something and...
So like, I just... I had hope that something would...
I don't know.
But my biggest concern is,
I... I have to back up first and just...
Like, what about the kids?
Like, what happens now with the kids?
The kids are the hardest part, of course.
Um, but it's like the relationship
that the kids have with each other,
that will still be great.
I think that this is still family.
It's just going to look different.
[Meri] When the family splits up,
it's really just not that easy.
From my perspective, and maybe this is just because I am...
a very black and white personality.
If... women are not married to the same man,
you're not a sister wife anymore.
[Meri] I really, at this point, have no idea what
this all means.
I can't project myself into the future right this second,
and even try to imagine what's gonna happen or what it's gonna look like.
Yeah, I guess I just can't. I just can't imagine after,
30 years, like...
how this looks.
[Christine] Like, as far as raising kids go?
Well, I don't know, everything.
You've just been...
so much, like the fabric of everything.
[Janelle] I mean, Christine is front and center in all my memories.
As far as being even way, way back,
she was the person who took care of my kids while I worked.
There's so much history there, right?
And it's been years, decades.
So, to me, it's almost like
Christine's as big a part of my world as Kody is.
Are you guys sure?
I mean, look, that's what so weird is like, are you guys sure?
-[Christine] Mm-hmm. -[Robyn] Like you're sure, sure, sure?
Yeah.
Yes.
[inhales] I've been through a divorce.
I know what this means.
We're not just talking about three kids and a husband and a wife.
We're talking about 18 kids,
spouses, grandbabies
and five of us
that are all connected
and committed to each other and technically married.
Do you even understand what you're saying?
Like, I'm looking at Kody going...
"Are you gonna let this happen?"
I'm looking at Christine, going like,
"Are you sure?"
Do you know what this means?
Because I do.
And I only know it from a smaller level, like...
With just a monogamous couple and three kids,
I mean, like, that was absolute hell.
And it was for years. Years!
It still is hard, for my kids.
It's still hard.
I mean, how do we unravel
something that's been together for this long?
There isn't an unraveling.
It's just gonna look different.
-It's not an unraveling. -It's not that easy, Christine.
-Huh? -It's not that easy.
-No, it's not. -It doesn't just look different.
I don't know. I'm just... I'm not happy right now.
I'm not happy with the situation.
That makes me angry.
You know, when I married Kody, when Janelle married Kody,
when Christine married Kody
or Robyn married Kody,
each one of us made
a commitment to each other. Like, to all of us.
You know, that we would love each other,
we would respect each other, that we would...
Stick through it, thick and thin and we would work these things out.
'Cause, come on you guys, can't we all just get our heads out of our butts?
If you moved to Utah, what about Truely?
Truely's gonna be fine.
She'll miss everybody, of course,
and it's gonna be hard, taking her from Kody.
-It's hard, it's hard. Don't get me wrong. -She's never gonna come back?
-Who will come back? -Oh no, you can't take her from me.
Because we'll have to have a shared custody. It'll have to be 50-50.
[Kody] I... I don't know how that works. I'm just not...
I'm not gonna sit here and...
And have her do this
without objecting to it
and saying, well, we've gotta work something out for her custody.
I don't know what that looks like.
This discussion hasn't happened.
Well, we talked about...
that I would be moving and taking Truely.
I never said it was okay that you were moving.
You just talked about moving.
You did say it was okay that we were moving.
We had a conversation.
-[Janelle] So you would have-- -[Kody] I never said that it was okay that you move.
[Kody] I never made...
I never made a big deal out of... I just...
I never answered that.
You never asked if you could move. You said you were moving.
I said that I needed you to let me go.
-And you said okay. -Okay, I can let you go.
That's what I said.
I... I agree.
You never told me the first time we talked about this
that you were going to move.
You just said, "Let me go." And I said...
You explained it.
I heard what you said and I understood that.
That doesn't mean you just run with Truely,
and all of a sudden, Truely's out of my life.
The whole issue is, is from the beginning of this,
she didn't ask me if I was okay if I didn't stay at her house.
She just told me not to.
She didn't ask me if it was okay if she moved my stuff out.
She just did it.
She didn't ask me if it was okay if she moved to Utah.
And took Truely.
She just told me she was gonna do it.
I can't live in this limbo anymore.
This has been limbo and it has been too painful.
I'm going to have to be involved
in True's... Truely's life.
And you're... you can't actually
stop me from being in her life.
So, I don't know what your intention was with moving with her.
[Christine] I find it ironic
that now he wants to be involved in my kids' lives
now that I'm leaving?
Now he wants 50-50 time with them?
Well, hell. He could've had 50-50 time
with us the whole [bleep] time we lived here.
If he wanted 50-50,
he should've been around more.
He doesn't get 50-50.
He hasn't been around enough for that.
[dramatic music playing]
[Kody] Christine's complaining about my presence
like I... I'm never around.
She's in plural marriage.
Or, at least she was.
She forgets what she signed up to be part of.
[Christine] What... what I see is
me moving with Truely in September.
Moving up to like, the Salt Lake City area.
And...
if you guys, you know, will figure out the holidays,
will figure out birthdays,
we'll figure it out.
I do worry about Truely. And I worry about Truely, and Sol and Ari.
[Christine] I mean the kids that Truely is closest to
is, um, Aspyn and Mitch and Mykelti
and Tony and Paedon. That's who she's closest to.
I don't see how she would ever come back.
I mean, Kody might go see her. Kody might go get her, but,
Truely is not ever coming back
for a long period of time.
She's like, totally loved and accepted
and adored
by so many people,
and I feel like having her in that environment
would be really, really good for her.
So, there would never be another Christmas.
There'll never be another anything.
I don't know.
What're you talking about? This is home.
And just 'cause you have this urge to go to Utah...
I mean, it's a little convoluted, I don't understand it.
I don't know why she's
feeling like
she's gotta move.
'Cause she gets to go see them all the time, anyway.
Me leaving won't change the relationships that my kid have with you.
Okay, so you're talking about the kids but,
feel like you wanna be done with the rest of us?
No, I think that
we're all going to have times when we're closer together
and times when we're not. Just like now.
So, you don't wanna move out onto the property?
No, no.
Uh, I... I am still in shock a little bit.
And still trying to figure out what this exactly means for the family.
The idea that Christine wouldn't be my sister wife
is very... It feels wrong to me.
[Robyn] I haven't seen a lot of positive examples
of, like, the aftermath
when a wife leaves a plural family.
And that's scary to me.
[Meri] I don't feel like Christine was
very happy even when we were living in Utah.
She seemed... angry
and very reserved.
And she knows how to put on a front.
[Meri] I don't know. I don't know...
how long this has been coming.
But it's really disappointing to me.
Truly disappointing.
What do you gain by leaving, Christine?
I mean, you don't like this place?
An incredible support.
-When you say community, what are you talking about? -My parents.
Other plural families that we have--
Christine, you're leaving this.
You haven't liked plural marriage for years.
You're leaving this, we're not part of a church anymore.
How are you getting a community?
A plural community by where you're going?
-Family. I said it. -You're leaving the plural community.
I've never understood her need to move.
She's not a member of the polygamous community.
She's not part of our church.
I don't understand it, at all.
Unless, there's some guy she wants to date there.
She wants to get away from me.
So, my [indistinct]
Is there... Can I ask this? Is it too personal? Do you...
If this is too personal, just let me know. Do you believe...
in plural marriage, anymore?
I believe it works for people who want it to work for them.
I believe, if people have a testimony of it, they should live it.
Do you?
No.
[Kody] So, I think that
our relationship has been bad for so long,
is specific to Christine's change of heart
regarding plural marriage.
[Kody] I think the fact that I was so spread thin
she just needed a certain level of attention.
Led us to where we're at.
And plural marriage just hasn't worked for her for many, many years
[Robyn] So, if you and Kody's relationship was, like, good,
you would, even though you're saying
you don't have a testimony anymore, would you stick around?
I don't know, it's... I don't know.
That's like such a... I don't know for sure.
Because it just is unfathomable.
What?
That Kody and I would have a good relationship.
I don't like the "What if?" game. What if? What if?
I have no idea.
Like it's... it's... it's...
Who knows? Who cares? I... don't know.
I prayed a lot when I was
deciding what to do with Kody
and wondering why I needed to live a plural marriage,
why I felt like I had a testi--
Like, I knew, for sure, that God wanted me to live a plural marriage
when I was younger, and it meant it was...
my path and I was supposed to, and God and I were a team
and I was gonna do plural marriage, right?
When I just prayed more
and looked at my life more
and had more conversations with God about the fact that I was just freakin' miserable,
I just realized He's probably a God like, I am the parent.
I don't want my kids to be sad and unhappy.
And He doesn't want me to be sad and unhappy, either.
You know when, when you first told me that you wanted to go,
I was arguing with you about it.
You just said, "Don't fight this, just let it happen.
I'm going."
And I went, "Okay."
'Cause you'd been fighting it for so long.
[Kody] Yeah, so I think
um, this is just the honest place.
Mm-hmm.
And, um, so we'll be angry about it.
It's not fun.
I'm mad about it. I'm angry.
But I'm... It's the honest place.
So it just is what it is.
And there's no sense in
killing ourselves to redeem it.
That's what we were doing in Las Vegas
We were trying to... We were killing ourselves to redeem the... the marriage.
And it just wasn't working.
I mean, it's been even worse here.
It's... a lot worse here.
I'm gonna be the head of my household again.
And so, I'm not gonna be circumvented in that.
And so,
if everybody's willing to conform,
to patriarchy again, I guess, 'cause
I've been fighting to make everybody happy.
My bitterness is out of trying to do that.
And not having the family that I had
thought about and designed.
Yeah, I didn't know I'd signed up for patriarchy but,
that's not what we all agreed on in the very beginning but...
Ironically, Janelle did sign up for patriarchy.
When her and I made an agreement that she would come into the family,
she agreed wholeheartedly
that she would run her wheel into mine,
because I had to be the head of the family.
And she made that agreement with me.
And if it is too awkward,
or if I don't feel like I'm the head of my household when
um, people are around, then I'm not gonna have the whole family together.
I'm at a point now in my life
where I don't have time to waste on people who won't respect me.
Or treat me with respect.
So we'll see how that goes.
And I'm... disappointed in how I've managed this.
'Cause somewhere along the line, I should have taken the... reigns.
But I felt like all of your independence was more important.
And so in... in that,
we sort of lost some form of unity.
This is just gonna rock us.
In a very, very, hard, hard way
if we're not careful.
If we're not very, very, very careful.
I sure hope everybody's taking it seriously.
I hope everybody's taking...
the responsibility that we now have, seriously.
'Cause this is a big deal. This is huge.
[dramatic music playing]
I guess I'm just sorry we failed.
[dramatic music intensifies]
[Kody reading]
We're gonna go see the RV, like, that I bought sight unseen.
[Robyn] It's massive.
It's small.
What if I don't want an RV pad?
I feel like if there's a will, there's a way.
Kody actually said to me, "Why don't you just move up there?"
I was here at the very beginning.
I helped start this family.
[Meri] It was me and him. He loved me.
Oh, look. It's Gabe, Garrison and Savanah
[Robyn] Christine has told us that she's leaving Kody.
Are we gonna be able to be around each other
or is it gonna be tense?
[all clamoring]
[Kody] The message that we had to the world about polygamy
seems so dysfunctional now.