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[narrator] Previously
on Sister Wives.
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[Christine] Kody, Meri,
Janelle and Robyn
are all coming over
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because I need to tell them
that my house
is now under contract.
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Congratulations,
you're leaving the family.
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Like, I don't know what
I'm supposed to say to this.
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[Kody] You never tried to have
a really good relationship
with these other people.
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Man, just the knife
in the kidneys
over all these years!
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It doesn't matter. It's over.
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I mean, again,
our relationship
doesn't change
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just because my mom's
decided to leave dad.
It doesn't change it.
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You're still mom.
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I am open and interested
in a relationship
with any of the kids
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or wives that want one.
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It's what I've always wanted.
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It was really important
to me for everybody
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to come say
goodbye to my mom.
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It's raining.
I'm leaving in five minutes.
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I'm in this sort
of weird place where
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I don't want to see
Christine ever again.
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I... I don't want
to think about her.
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I don't want to drive past
this house ever again
and mourn this.
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I don't want to deal
with this at all.
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You guys,
thank you for coming.
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Hey, it means
a lot to me that you came.
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[sobbing]
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So it's very apparent
how awkward we all are.
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But Janelle and her kids
are on one side, and Robyn
and Kody are on the other,
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and none of us
want to be here.
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[Christine]
So I am moving today.
Oh, my gosh.
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It's here. It's here.
It's here.
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I am moving to Utah.
I have a home, it's a rental
I haven't seen it.
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It's a sight unseen because
Mykelti did a walk-through
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and she says I'll love it.
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It's great. And it's new.
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About a week ago,
I got an offer on my house,
but it fell through today,
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as we're loading up the truck.
So the house is back
on the market
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and people are coming today
to look at it.
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We're going
to load up everything.
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And then if we have
time left, we will clean.
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So initially, when I had
the offer on my house,
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I had three weeks
before the closing date.
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Okay, let's go do a once-over.
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So now I've got to clean
everything out
so the house can be shown,
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but I'm not going
to be able to have
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enough room to take
all of my stuff.
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I'm gonna have
to still come back.
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So we're just gonna
put everything in the garage
and leave it there
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and I'll be back in a couple
of weeks, in a week or so
or whatever
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to come and get
the rest of my stuff.
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-What a view, huh?
-[Mykelti]
It is a beautiful view.
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Oh, gosh.
It is a great day, too.
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Most of the local family
gathered together to say
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goodbye to Christine
last night.
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It was extremely awkward.
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-Hi, Christine. Good luck.
-Bye, thank you.
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-Bye.
-Bye. Thank you.
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-Thank you.
-Okay. Safe travels.
We'll see you.
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That was awkward
and horrible.
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And...
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I have no idea
what to do with it.
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Christine doesn't want
a relationship with me
or my kids.
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I guess she disappears
to a certain extent
out of my life.
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If I happen to run
into her when Truely is over,
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just sort of stay
out of her way.
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[Christine]
This one looks perfect.
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No one ever wants
to leave a marriage.
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And especially after,
what, 27 years?
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It's a long time to be
in a marriage and to be
in a relationship with people.
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And I'm leaving
broken hearts behind.
And that's what's hard.
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Truely's stressed today.
She's very nervous.
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Moving's hard and
starting over is really hard.
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I know I'm moving her
to better.
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I'm fully confident,
moving her to a better life.
But she doesn't know that yet.
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[Robyn] It's really hard
to be optimistic
when a bomb just went off
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and blew up pretty much
all of your hopes.
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The collateral damage
will last for generations.
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[Meri] As the news about
Christine leaving
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has been more public
and has spread,
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you know, more
and more people
know about it,
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it shocks me
how mean people are.
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I think that's it.
I think that's all
we have left.
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These people, like,
come at me
and they're just like,
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"Why can't you be
strong like Christine?"
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"Why don't you leave Kody?
He's such a..." Blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Like, the whole list of things
that they say about Kody.
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It frustrates me
because, you know what?
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Christine has her own
value regardless of Kody.
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I have my own value
regardless of Kody.
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[Janelle] I have coffee.
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-I have coffee.
-Janelle!
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-[Janelle] I have coffee.
-Nice.
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I'll always be grateful
to Janelle for how amazing
she's been during all of this.
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She's been supportive of me
leaving and me moving
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and leaving the family
and changing the whole dynamic
of the family.
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Thank you for everybody
for coming this long distance.
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And thank you
for helping me so much.
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Thank you for being
one of my best friends,
Janelle. Thank you.
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And this to... to new
beginnings, right?
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-New beginnings.
-To new beginnings.
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New beginnings.
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I see now without
the sister wife piece.
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Like, where we're just
two people with this shared
life experience.
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We're gonna be
such great friends.
I mean, we are.
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We're gonna be,
and that's gonna continue.
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-Thank you. See you later.
-See you later.
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-Okay. It's not...
It's not goodbye.
-No.
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-I'll see you in a week.
-See you soon.
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-See you later.
-Just see you later.
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So not only
is she supporting me,
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but she's helping me
look forward
to my next adventure.
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Yeah. I couldn't ask
for a better friend, ever.
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Um, Christine is leaving.
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[sighs]
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I'm good until
I think about it. So...
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It's not the end. It's just
the end of a chapter.
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So, a big, big chapter.
The end of the book, maybe.
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All of a sudden my whole
world looks different. So...
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Yeah. Like, we just...
I don't think any of us
know what goes on now.
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We're just gonna
have to make it up.
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There's no pattern.
There's no rules.
There's no guidelines.
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It's whatever
we want it to be, now.
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-[producer speaking]
-[chuckles]
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It's hard to leave.
Gosh, it's really
hard to leave.
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Ending a chapter is really
hard no matter what, you know?
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All right, lovelies. Let's go.
That's it.
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Freedom!
I mean, next adventure!
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-You are the best therapy.
-We're gonna be neighbors.
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She's moving today,
she's leaving. And I'm...
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There's a sense that I feel
like I'm just,
in a way, coping.
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And I really want
to tell her I loved you.
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I loved you.
Why did you betray me?
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I worked for this.
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And that's almost
just pathetic
because she's leaving.
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She's done.
And I've got to accept that.
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But I don't want to because
it's breaking my heart.
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[Christine] Everything that
I was feeling before
about being nervous,
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it's gone all of a sudden.
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This is what
I was waiting for.
This is what I was hoping for.
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This is a test
to show how...
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[both giggling]
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-[doctor] Okay. Again.
-You're doing good.
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Honey, I'm home.
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-Hey.
-[Kody] Hi.
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[Christine] We've had a lot
of good memories
at this house,
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a lot of great times
and great parties
and great gatherings.
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But I'm so excited
to just move on.
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Today I get to be at home.
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It's late. It is super late.
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We're getting in kind of late,
but Aspyn's gonna
meet us there.
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-[Christine] Aspyn.
-I missed you.
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[Christine] Hi, baby. Aw.
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I've been moving
towards family and moving,
and she's here.
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And gosh, it just feels
so overwhelmingly amazing.
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I just made
the right decision.
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-You ready to go
see our new house?
-Yeah.
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Okay.
That sounds good to me, too.
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I don't want to move
anything in yet.
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I want a tour.
I want a tour of my house.
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-Mom.
-This is perfect.
Truely has two sinks.
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Whoa!
A huge mirror.
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There's a separate
door to the toilet.
It's pretty awesome.
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And the laundry room.
Did you see the laundry room?
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Oh, oh, oh.
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You could have a dance party
in that laundry room.
It's huge.
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Oh, this is the other bedroom.
Okay.
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It's cute. It's really pretty
and it's new and it's clean.
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So is this your room?
Is this Truely's room?
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[Truely chanting]
Truely's room. Truely's room.
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[Christine] Truely has picke
a bedroom and she likes it.
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It's helping Truely
even be more okay.
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This has been stressful.
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There's been a lot going on.
Kind of excited
for the new adventure.
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It will all be
a lot of new, though.
That's the thing.
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I mean, she spent like more
than half of her life
with the family.
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So how the relationship's
gonna be different
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between the kids
and the other moms
and everything?
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-Mm-hmm.
-Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, like,
nervous about that.
Like, how the family changes.
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Because it's
definitely changed.
It's totally different now.
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I'm in the master's.
This will be mine.
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En suite, you know,
it's called the en suite.
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This is now my room,
and it's just mine.
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I get to decorate it
how I want.
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I'm gonna buy new furniture
for it exactly how I want.
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Oh, please, mama.
That's happening tonight.
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And it's just mine.
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This is a great space.
I'm only gonna have a queen
size bed anyway.
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It just represents
everything, so I'm just
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excited to have it be
my space alone for a while.
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-Her offer didn't go
through on the house.
-Yeah.
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Why don't we buy it?
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We buy the house,
we build on Coyote Pass,
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you move into that house,
we rent this house.
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-I want my own house.
-I don't want
to live in an RV.
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Dude, you have a house.
You go home and you live
in the house with Robyn.
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And I don't have
a house still.
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I'm still hand-carrying water
from the water source
to my trailer.
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Christine's house
fell out of contract,
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so she said it was okay
for me to come over here.
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I come over here
and I fill up
my water from her back tap,
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and then I take it
and put it in my RV.
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-Hey.
-Oh, hi, honey.
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I drove by it and driving by,
and I saw your...
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-[Janelle] Doing water.
-Well, I saw you walk in
just as I was pulling by.
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Hi. How's it going,
sweetheart?
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[Savanah]
To be completely honest,
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I do not like having
to do so many tours,
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um, things
that would be simpler
in an apartment.
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I don't think we understood
what we were getting into
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quite as well
as we thought we did.
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But it's... it's...
it's just one of those things
that you have to do.
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So I was here yesterday
and I saw Christine off
and she said--
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I just thought it'd be
easier just to come over here.
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Well, her... her offer didn't
go through on the house.
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Yeah. She... she said that.
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Why don't we buy it?
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We buy the house,
we build on Coyote Pass,
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you move into that house,
we rent this house.
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That's the plan
with Robyn's house.
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I just-- my heart--
I want a house.
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I'm ready to be settled
in my own house.
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Yeah, but we're
a year from that.
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Even if we start
building right away.
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Yeah, I just... Kody,
I don't think I can do both.
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I... I can't afford
both house mortgages.
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I can't buy this house
and in any shape or form,
finance another house.
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No matter, even if it's small.
Like, I just can't.
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I don't know
why we couldn't... Okay.
All we got to do is get...
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I talk... So, I called Kelly
today because you and I
have been all this...
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We just, like, we...
Our friends say this.
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-Yeah yeah, yeah.
-You know what I mean?
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And he said it would be two
years of renting this
to somebody else before...
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Oh it's not a year.
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So Kelly is a mortgage
professional here in town
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that we've used for a lot
of our financing.
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And he said you would have
to rent it for two years
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before somebody would not
count that mortgage towards
your debt to income
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when you're trying
to finance something else.
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And I don't want this house.
I want to be out
on the property.
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That's the whole reason
I've been doing everything
I've been doing.
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I want to be out there.
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I still think you're
not being open-minded.
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-Okay, Kody,
I talked to Kelly.
-I know.
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-He says two years. So what?
-[Janelle] I'm not gonna...
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It takes a whole year
to build.
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No. I'm not gonna say--
Well, no, Kody, the problem is
I wouldn't be able to build.
247
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I can't even get
a construction loan
if I buy this house.
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You know, if Janelle wouldn't
have bought the RV,
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she could have been able
to afford the mortgage
on Christine's house.
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If we are able to pull out,
pay off the land this year,
251
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then why wouldn't we be able
to actually just fund your
construction next year?
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No. God.
253
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It's like... No, Kody,
it's like everybody's lost
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sight of the reason
that we moved here
was to build out there.
255
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I know, but this is...
I'm not saying we're not
building out there.
256
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I'm saying we're simply
just buying an asset.
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I just thought...
No, this really...
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Just something that becomes...
259
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He told me it would be
two years before I could
apply, two years of rent.
260
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So where am I going to live
for those two years...
that we're renting this?
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I'm just being creative
and a little bit argumentative
here with Janelle,
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but the whole point is,
is I want to get her
into a home
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and Christine's house is here,
available and easy.
264
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I can be
built in a year.
265
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I just... I see that
we just lack creativity here.
266
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I understand what what Kelly
is saying but--
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No, Kody, I want to go forward
with this build.
268
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But I don't know why
we would not go forward...
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Because the money I'd have
to put as a down payment
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on this would basically
almost pay off the land.
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-No, I'm, I'm...
We can do both.
-I just... I don't think so.
272
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I'm the one who gets
the taxes to the accountant
273
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I see how the money
was dispersed
from the family account
274
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and there was enough money
outside of the debts
275
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and our daily expenses
that was spent
on other things.
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And I'm just saying,
if we were prioritizing
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like we did
when we bought other houses,
we could pay off the land.
278
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You know,
we've always worked together
279
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to take care
of the whole family.
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We worked together
to buy Christine her house.
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We worked together
to take care of the kids.
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And I know right now
we're in a position
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where we can't pay off
that property yet.
284
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And I know that that's got
to be stressful
285
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and frustrating for Janelle.
286
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It's frustrating
to me as well
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because all I wanted to do
is get our butts out there
on that property.
288
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It's interesting because
Janelle has never discussed
289
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paying off Coyote Pass
or the work on the Coyote Pass
with Meri or with Robyn.
290
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I am more than willing
to put money
in that direction.
291
00:16:04,964 --> 00:16:07,398
But we have to
have it to do it.
292
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Kody, I just don't think so.
I think it will slow me down.
293
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And once again,
I'll be stuck in this...
294
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a house that
is not the one I want.
295
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If you're gonna stay
in an area, buying is always
fiscally responsible
296
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if the market
doesn't just crater.
297
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The second reason I don't
want to rent is
if we bought Christine's house
298
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and then she builds
on Coyote Pass,
299
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she moves to Coyote Pass,
she's got a rental property,
that becomes an asset.
300
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Never did Kody say,
"Hey, honey, let's do this.
It's a house for you."
301
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All Kody ever talked about
was how much he was sad
302
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,501
that he was losing this house
that Christine had.
303
00:16:43,503 --> 00:16:46,304
He loved it.
He didn't want to lose it.
304
00:16:46,306 --> 00:16:49,807
So it sort of felt like
he was using me
and my buying power
305
00:16:49,809 --> 00:16:52,910
to save this house
that he loves.
306
00:16:52,912 --> 00:16:56,714
Like I would be in this home
that isn't really one
of my favorite homes
307
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and it would be where
I would be forever stuck.
308
00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,620
You're not thinking
like an entrepreneur.
You're seeing...
309
00:17:02,622 --> 00:17:05,123
Okay, I get all that, Kody,
but I don't have
a house.
310
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I want my own house.
311
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-I want my own house.
-[Kody] You are moving
into a rental because...
312
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For six months, because
I don't want to stay out there
in the winters.
313
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-And I don't want
to live in an RV.
-That's fine.
314
00:17:18,304 --> 00:17:20,438
We don't have to.
We can stay in town and rent.
315
00:17:23,943 --> 00:17:25,343
Dude, you have a house,
you go home
316
00:17:25,445 --> 00:17:27,045
and you live in the house
with Robyn.
317
00:17:27,146 --> 00:17:28,546
I have no house.
318
00:17:28,648 --> 00:17:31,716
We've been in Flagstaff
for four freaking years,
319
00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:34,118
and I don't have
a house still.
320
00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:38,756
Financially, at least up
until fairly recently,
321
00:17:38,825 --> 00:17:42,160
our family's always kind
of, like, worked together
322
00:17:42,261 --> 00:17:47,598
and just put whatever funds
that we had
where they needed to go.
323
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:53,371
When I sold my house in Vega
I gave my money that I made
from that house to Robyn
324
00:17:53,373 --> 00:17:56,240
so that she could buy
her house here in Flagstaff
325
00:17:56,309 --> 00:17:59,610
You know, like,
that's just what we've done.
We've always worked together.
326
00:17:59,612 --> 00:18:06,217
Um, and like, I have
no problem with the fact
that I'm renting still.
327
00:18:06,219 --> 00:18:09,687
I understand that you think
you can't do both,
328
00:18:09,689 --> 00:18:13,324
but there's a way
if there's a will.
329
00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:16,661
I've been pushing this
house of Christine's
onto Janelle for a long time
330
00:18:16,729 --> 00:18:18,196
and Janelle is like,
"Stop it."
331
00:18:18,198 --> 00:18:20,264
She doesn't want
to buy Christine's house.
332
00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:22,300
She wants to build
her own house.
333
00:18:22,302 --> 00:18:24,602
If she can't work with me
to solve the problems,
334
00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:28,039
then she gets to solve
the problems on her own.
335
00:18:28,041 --> 00:18:30,741
And the way she's going
about it with buying the RV,
336
00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:34,312
with moving out there,
with this whole charade...
337
00:18:35,748 --> 00:18:36,948
it's not working.
338
00:18:38,952 --> 00:18:41,052
Oh, it really is raining.
339
00:18:41,121 --> 00:18:43,955
He's not listening at all
to the reasons
340
00:18:43,957 --> 00:18:47,058
that I can't do this
or don't want to do this.
341
00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:49,827
It's almost like he just feels
like if he keeps telling me,
342
00:18:49,829 --> 00:18:51,863
he's gonna steamroll me
and I'm gonna lay down
343
00:18:51,931 --> 00:18:53,164
and be like,
"Okay, we'll do it."
344
00:18:55,502 --> 00:18:57,902
I'm not trying to force her
into anything.
345
00:18:57,904 --> 00:19:00,004
I'm trying to have
a conversation.
346
00:19:00,006 --> 00:19:01,506
She's gonna do
whatever she wants.
347
00:19:01,508 --> 00:19:02,707
She always has.
348
00:19:05,945 --> 00:19:08,613
I'm optimistic that
everything will be fine,
349
00:19:08,615 --> 00:19:09,814
but I don't know.
350
00:19:09,816 --> 00:19:11,415
Things are really broken.
351
00:19:11,417 --> 00:19:13,518
I don't think
that there's a lot of trust
352
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,920
between all three of us
at all.
353
00:19:15,922 --> 00:19:17,355
And I think
that my relationship with them
354
00:19:17,423 --> 00:19:18,723
is just gonna stay like this.
355
00:19:31,204 --> 00:19:34,105
I have my house
on the market in Flagstaff.
356
00:19:34,107 --> 00:19:36,407
There was a buyer,
but they fell through.
357
00:19:36,409 --> 00:19:37,742
And now there's a new buyer.
358
00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:39,210
But I still have
a lot of stuff there
359
00:19:39,212 --> 00:19:40,511
that I have to move out.
360
00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:42,747
So we're back
and just for fun,
361
00:19:42,782 --> 00:19:44,949
Truely's gonna spend the nig
in Janelle's RV
362
00:19:45,051 --> 00:19:46,717
just so she can have
a little bit of fun
363
00:19:46,719 --> 00:19:48,719
and spend some time
with Janelle and Savanah.
364
00:19:48,721 --> 00:19:50,555
[Truely] Thank you so much
for letting me stay here.
365
00:19:50,623 --> 00:19:52,557
-Of course.
-[Janelle] Oh, I'm so excited
you're here, True.
366
00:19:52,658 --> 00:19:55,726
[Christine] I would love
to just stay home
in Utah and settle.
367
00:19:55,728 --> 00:19:58,829
I was so excited
about moving and progressing
368
00:19:58,831 --> 00:20:00,598
and moving forward with life,
369
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,099
but then I have to go back
to Flagstaff.
370
00:20:02,101 --> 00:20:03,634
So I'm like, "Ugh."
371
00:20:03,736 --> 00:20:05,036
We're just gonna keep
moving forward.
372
00:20:06,639 --> 00:20:08,206
-What do you think?
-It's great. Thank you.
373
00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:10,308
-Yeah?
-It's kind of different, huh?
374
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:12,109
-Kind of different.
-Yeah.
375
00:20:12,111 --> 00:20:13,744
I'm so glad to have
Truely over.
376
00:20:13,846 --> 00:20:16,380
I think Truely
is such a cool kid.
377
00:20:16,382 --> 00:20:19,951
You can have these adult lev
conversations with her
and you forget she's 11.
378
00:20:20,019 --> 00:20:21,819
It's just fun
to have her over.
379
00:20:21,821 --> 00:20:24,822
Yes. This is my first
sleepover in the RV.
380
00:20:24,824 --> 00:20:26,857
We might do some stargazing.
381
00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:29,760
-[Truely gasps]
-The stars look
pretty great here.
382
00:20:29,862 --> 00:20:33,798
Um, and my mom
is a huge astronomy nerd.
383
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:34,932
I'm a skywatcher.
384
00:20:34,934 --> 00:20:37,501
I'm enthralled with it,
I'm passionate about it.
385
00:20:37,503 --> 00:20:39,637
If I discovered a star,
I would just call it my babi
386
00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:41,505
because it's my star,
I can call whatever I wanted.
387
00:20:41,507 --> 00:20:43,441
I have lots of babies
in my world.
388
00:20:43,509 --> 00:20:46,310
Some of them
have got grown up,
some of them are little.
389
00:20:46,312 --> 00:20:47,945
But I would just call it
my babies.
390
00:20:47,947 --> 00:20:49,947
♪ Short pants ♪
391
00:20:49,949 --> 00:20:51,816
♪ This is what they are ♪
392
00:20:54,621 --> 00:20:56,954
[Janelle] So one thing
that's been kind of fun
about living out in the RV
393
00:20:56,990 --> 00:20:59,624
is we cook out often.
394
00:20:59,626 --> 00:21:02,460
We'll do hot dogs
or hamburgers
395
00:21:02,561 --> 00:21:05,663
or like those little foil
packet dinners or something.
396
00:21:05,765 --> 00:21:08,499
It's fun. It's like, it's like
camping every night.
397
00:21:08,501 --> 00:21:09,800
-[Truely] Uh...
-[Savanah] Chocolate...
398
00:21:09,802 --> 00:21:11,102
-[indistinct chatter]
-The cinnamon...
399
00:21:11,104 --> 00:21:12,403
Oh, blow it out.
Blow it out.
400
00:21:12,405 --> 00:21:13,838
True, blow.
401
00:21:13,939 --> 00:21:15,239
All right, can you eat them
like that?
402
00:21:15,308 --> 00:21:16,741
-Yep. I love it burnt.
-Oh, okay.
403
00:21:16,842 --> 00:21:19,210
I put it directly
in the flame on purpose.
404
00:21:19,212 --> 00:21:21,846
So when I eat marshmallows,
when I eat s'mores,
405
00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:25,149
I purposefully burn
the marshmallow.
406
00:21:25,251 --> 00:21:26,550
It tastes burnt
on the outside,
407
00:21:26,619 --> 00:21:29,453
but it's overly creamy
on the inside.
408
00:21:29,522 --> 00:21:31,722
It tastes actually
really good.
409
00:21:31,724 --> 00:21:34,425
Do you want
chocolate graham crackers
410
00:21:34,427 --> 00:21:36,060
or the kind that
are like the regular,
411
00:21:36,062 --> 00:21:37,461
but they have cinnamon
on them?
412
00:21:37,563 --> 00:21:39,063
Um, I'll have the regular.
413
00:21:39,065 --> 00:21:40,431
-Okay.
-I'm trying to...
414
00:21:41,501 --> 00:21:43,701
show Truely that it's cool
to live out here.
415
00:21:43,703 --> 00:21:47,938
I even went and got
some really fun sugary
breakfast cereal,
416
00:21:48,007 --> 00:21:49,607
which I never keep around
417
00:21:49,609 --> 00:21:52,043
because I wanted it
to make it like this,
418
00:21:52,045 --> 00:21:55,046
this amusement park experience
where she's like,
419
00:21:55,147 --> 00:21:56,947
"Wow, we did s'mores
and I love..."
420
00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:59,050
I wanted her to be like,
"That was really fun,"
421
00:21:59,052 --> 00:22:02,920
you know, so I was like
bending over backwards
to make it fun for her.
422
00:22:05,525 --> 00:22:08,959
[Truely] We roasted
marshmallows,
we stargazed a little.
423
00:22:09,061 --> 00:22:11,662
We just had fun, and like,
it was like,
424
00:22:11,731 --> 00:22:13,264
"Okay, this is like
the last time
425
00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:15,266
that I'll see you
in a couple of months."
426
00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:16,434
So, like...
427
00:22:19,605 --> 00:22:20,805
[crickets chirping]
428
00:22:28,514 --> 00:22:32,216
[Christine] So this is my last
morning in Flagstaff.
429
00:22:32,218 --> 00:22:35,486
It is weird.
It's surreal to be here.
430
00:22:35,488 --> 00:22:39,790
I moved from this house,
like, 20 days ago,
431
00:22:39,792 --> 00:22:41,459
so we're just visiting.
432
00:22:41,527 --> 00:22:43,761
It doesn't feel like
our house anymore.
433
00:22:43,829 --> 00:22:45,129
Not at all.
434
00:22:45,131 --> 00:22:50,601
The house sold
and, um, the first buyers
backed out,
435
00:22:50,603 --> 00:22:53,404
'cause there were some
electrical problems that
I didn't know about.
436
00:22:53,406 --> 00:22:55,106
Anyway, we're getting
the electrical problems fixed.
437
00:22:55,108 --> 00:22:56,307
We have another offer.
438
00:22:56,309 --> 00:22:58,209
It looks really solid now,
439
00:22:58,211 --> 00:23:00,544
and they want to close early
as well.
440
00:23:00,613 --> 00:23:03,147
They came in
asking at a great price.
441
00:23:03,249 --> 00:23:04,648
Everything was great.
442
00:23:04,717 --> 00:23:07,418
So I need to finish
clearing everything out.
443
00:23:09,055 --> 00:23:10,955
It's exciting.
444
00:23:10,957 --> 00:23:12,089
Robyn drove by yesterday
445
00:23:12,091 --> 00:23:13,657
and the kids rolled down
the windows
446
00:23:13,759 --> 00:23:15,326
and, you know, waved
and yelled and stuff.
447
00:23:15,328 --> 00:23:16,427
It was really cute.
448
00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:20,064
And I'm optimistic
that everything will be fine,
449
00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:21,399
but I don't know.
450
00:23:21,401 --> 00:23:23,734
Things are really
broken, more broken
than ever right now.
451
00:23:23,803 --> 00:23:25,102
And Janelle and I are fine.
452
00:23:25,104 --> 00:23:27,405
That's the relationship that
I really want to keep
453
00:23:27,407 --> 00:23:30,040
really, really solid
and really, really strong.
454
00:23:30,042 --> 00:23:32,343
Every time I've come
into town, I've seen her.
455
00:23:32,445 --> 00:23:34,211
We'll do coffee together
in the morning
456
00:23:34,213 --> 00:23:35,513
and hang out for a little bi
457
00:23:35,515 --> 00:23:37,815
And it's just easier.
458
00:23:37,817 --> 00:23:40,785
It's taking off the label
of sister wife,
459
00:23:40,787 --> 00:23:42,953
and we're just friends,
but we're closer than friends
460
00:23:42,955 --> 00:23:44,655
because we've raised
kids together.
461
00:23:44,723 --> 00:23:46,257
I don't know if Janelle
and I can be sister wives
462
00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:48,659
if we're not married
to the same guy,
you know?
463
00:23:48,727 --> 00:23:50,261
I don't know.
464
00:23:50,362 --> 00:23:53,364
Honestly, of all my sisters...
my "sister wives",
465
00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:54,498
like the real sister wives,
466
00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:56,133
the ones who are all married
to Kody,
467
00:23:56,235 --> 00:23:57,802
Christine was always
kind of the heart
468
00:23:57,804 --> 00:23:59,837
of that relationship for me.
469
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:02,339
I've struggled with Meri
and we've worked
for a lot of years
470
00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,508
to try to figure
ourselves out.
471
00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:07,411
And Robyn,
there's a lot of problems,
472
00:24:07,413 --> 00:24:11,215
but Christine truly is,
in my head,
473
00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:13,417
the definition
of a sister wife.
474
00:24:13,419 --> 00:24:15,119
You share a big portion
of your life with,
475
00:24:15,121 --> 00:24:16,587
you have history with,
476
00:24:16,589 --> 00:24:18,956
you have all these things,
you're a support network
for each other.
477
00:24:19,058 --> 00:24:21,592
So, yeah, I think
we're still sister wives.
478
00:24:21,594 --> 00:24:23,861
Are you interested
in some sort of a,
479
00:24:25,832 --> 00:24:27,598
like, trying to work stuff out
480
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,400
maybe from the past
how many years?
481
00:24:31,704 --> 00:24:34,405
I think for right now,
I need space.
482
00:24:34,407 --> 00:24:36,440
-Okay.
-For right now.
483
00:24:36,542 --> 00:24:38,442
I haven't spoken
with Robyn or Meri
484
00:24:38,544 --> 00:24:41,412
since we talked all together
485
00:24:41,414 --> 00:24:42,847
And I think that
my relationship with them
486
00:24:42,948 --> 00:24:44,515
is just gonna stay like this,
487
00:24:44,517 --> 00:24:45,950
where when we see
each other,
488
00:24:45,952 --> 00:24:47,818
we'll be amiable
and we'll be kind,
489
00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:50,020
but we won't seek
each other out.
490
00:24:50,022 --> 00:24:54,091
I mean, things could change
years later.
491
00:24:54,093 --> 00:24:56,227
I don't think
that there's a lot of trust
492
00:24:56,229 --> 00:24:58,128
between all three of us
at all.
493
00:24:59,365 --> 00:25:00,998
The house is just so empty
494
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,735
and it's weird,
495
00:25:04,837 --> 00:25:07,404
surreal, hard, good,
496
00:25:07,406 --> 00:25:10,040
fun, exciting.
497
00:25:10,042 --> 00:25:13,344
Um, so exciting to just...
498
00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:16,046
[sighs] ...leave.
499
00:25:17,416 --> 00:25:19,483
I don't like to be here.
500
00:25:19,485 --> 00:25:21,719
I would prefer
to be anywhere else
501
00:25:21,721 --> 00:25:25,122
because anywhere else,
I'm strong and independent
and fun and fearless
502
00:25:25,124 --> 00:25:28,125
and can rise to any occasio
and can do anything I want.
503
00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:31,962
You put me back here
and I'm a wife
in a loveless marriage...
504
00:25:33,266 --> 00:25:37,801
that was going nowhere,
and I don't like to be that.
505
00:25:37,803 --> 00:25:41,839
So it's like, um, a farewell
to that, too.
506
00:25:48,414 --> 00:25:49,947
So yeah, I've got to keep
moving forward.
507
00:25:50,049 --> 00:25:52,182
So we need to meet
with everybody and figure out
508
00:25:52,184 --> 00:25:54,818
if everybody is good
with the dividing still or...
509
00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:57,521
[Kody] There's an element
that I'm struggling with here.
510
00:25:57,523 --> 00:26:00,858
I've been left feeling
pretty disrespected.
511
00:26:00,927 --> 00:26:05,162
Men don't love people back
who don't respect them.
512
00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:07,331
I'm not gonna break my back
to work for you
513
00:26:07,333 --> 00:26:08,699
when you don't respect me.
514
00:26:09,702 --> 00:26:10,968
I'm just not.
515
00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:26,750
I've been working all morning
just cleaning up yard work
516
00:26:26,786 --> 00:26:30,921
over at Robyn's house
and stopping over
at Janelle's RV.
517
00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:32,356
She's got something
she wants to show me.
518
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,492
You know, Janelle
and I have been living
519
00:26:35,494 --> 00:26:38,262
in this RV together
for a while.
520
00:26:38,364 --> 00:26:40,164
It's been less than a picnic,
521
00:26:40,265 --> 00:26:41,999
so it's like, oh,
we're just going
522
00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:45,202
to ignore the problems
in the relationship.
523
00:26:45,337 --> 00:26:46,637
Carpet... [mimics sweeping]
524
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:49,206
[Janelle] What's the log?
525
00:26:50,610 --> 00:26:53,611
[Kody] Uh, I'm, uh...
526
00:26:53,613 --> 00:26:57,615
I'm moving them
out of Robyn's backyard.
527
00:26:57,617 --> 00:26:59,216
[Janelle] Wow.
That's a hook up.
528
00:26:59,218 --> 00:27:01,719
[Kody] We've got
a pile of logs that
we've been salvaging.
529
00:27:01,721 --> 00:27:04,655
We'll peel it,
put it up to dry,
530
00:27:04,724 --> 00:27:07,558
and hopefully it'll end up
being a good log.
531
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:09,727
-What are you doing?
-Oh, I got the plans.
You want to see 'em?
532
00:27:09,729 --> 00:27:11,528
So, I... I actually...
She sent him to me
533
00:27:11,530 --> 00:27:12,630
and I had them printed.
534
00:27:12,632 --> 00:27:14,798
All right. That's...
that's awesome. Yeah.
535
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,500
We've got a drawing here.
536
00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:18,802
A drafted drawing
of the house.
537
00:27:18,804 --> 00:27:20,437
Basically, this is what
we would take
538
00:27:20,539 --> 00:27:22,106
to a builder to have them
bid it.
539
00:27:22,108 --> 00:27:25,342
And we'd also be able to get
a permit off of it, I think.
540
00:27:25,411 --> 00:27:26,443
I'm actually pretty excited.
541
00:27:26,545 --> 00:27:27,845
So there's more than
one copy here
542
00:27:27,913 --> 00:27:30,414
because we'll have to have
multiple builders look at it.
543
00:27:32,218 --> 00:27:34,451
-So that's what we--
-[Kody] That's just
her rendering, right?
544
00:27:34,553 --> 00:27:36,186
[Janelle] Yeah, that's the...
but the basic look, right?
545
00:27:36,188 --> 00:27:38,622
With the pointed roof,
the way you wanted it
or something with the decks.
546
00:27:38,624 --> 00:27:40,758
-Yeah, that's called
a gable end. Yeah.
-Okay.
547
00:27:40,859 --> 00:27:43,594
This house that I'm planning
on building is only gonna be
1200 square feet.
548
00:27:43,596 --> 00:27:45,062
So it's small.
549
00:27:45,064 --> 00:27:49,433
So we had thought to make
the roof pointed
like it'll feel more open.
550
00:27:49,535 --> 00:27:52,703
So it's gonna have that
one really big garage.
551
00:27:52,705 --> 00:27:54,138
It won't be big enough
for this,
552
00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:55,706
but this is,
that has the pop out.
553
00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:57,307
So these are a little shorter.
554
00:27:57,309 --> 00:27:59,610
So that's gonna be
a pretty nice sized garage.
555
00:27:59,612 --> 00:28:03,714
So the house I'm building
is technically more
like a casita,
556
00:28:03,716 --> 00:28:05,682
which means a small house.
557
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:09,286
So I have a three bay garag
and then the house is gonna
built up on top of it.
558
00:28:09,288 --> 00:28:14,725
It's an easy way to save
building costs if you put it
on top of your garage.
559
00:28:14,727 --> 00:28:18,962
So the master's 15...
almost by 15X15.
560
00:28:18,964 --> 00:28:21,198
So that would be big
enough for our bed set.
561
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,036
And then Savanah's room
is a little smaller,
but that's big enough for her.
562
00:28:26,105 --> 00:28:27,570
[Kody] Yeah.
563
00:28:27,572 --> 00:28:29,406
The house I'm gonna
build is gonna be
a two bedroom.
564
00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:33,010
The only person who's still
living at home with me
is Savanah.
565
00:28:33,012 --> 00:28:37,514
And so I wanted to save
the bulk of the space
for the big great room,
566
00:28:37,516 --> 00:28:39,349
because that's where you
spend most of your
time anyway.
567
00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:42,152
So this has
the existing lot lines.
568
00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:46,590
So I can build this
on the existing
569
00:28:46,592 --> 00:28:49,993
because I fit in with it,
with all the right setbacks
570
00:28:49,995 --> 00:28:53,464
[Kody] We're not...
we won't build until
we've done this subdivision.
571
00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:58,168
So we...
Our next move is to try
and do the subdivision.
572
00:28:58,170 --> 00:28:59,636
This is typical Kody.
573
00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:04,108
Like, things aren't going
awesome,
like it's been a hard summer
574
00:29:04,110 --> 00:29:08,545
and now all of a sudden
this is all my fault,
it's all my problem,
575
00:29:08,647 --> 00:29:11,148
and I'm somehow
inconveniencing him.
576
00:29:11,217 --> 00:29:14,151
It's astounding.
It's astounding.
577
00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:15,753
We want to do the subdivision.
578
00:29:15,755 --> 00:29:18,922
The main reason is because
we want to get a fifth lot out
of this location.
579
00:29:18,924 --> 00:29:23,193
So in order for us to divid
the properties and get that
fifth lot,
580
00:29:23,195 --> 00:29:24,828
we'd have to pay it off.
581
00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:26,330
Then we're able
to start building.
582
00:29:26,332 --> 00:29:28,398
Until then, we can't
start building.
583
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,034
Well, then...
but things have changed.
Things have changed.
584
00:29:31,036 --> 00:29:32,202
What are we going to do?
585
00:29:32,204 --> 00:29:34,338
We just have to discuss that
with the rest of the,
586
00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:36,940
you know, like
with Meri and Robyn.
587
00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:39,943
Yeah, because there's just
no longer five of us.
588
00:29:40,045 --> 00:29:42,045
[Kody] Janelle might be
wondering if we're still gonna
589
00:29:42,047 --> 00:29:44,448
have five lots
because Christine's left.
590
00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:50,220
And yes, we would, because
that's going to increase our
value of the property by 20%.
591
00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:53,023
So we do need to get together
and talk about like what the
592
00:29:53,025 --> 00:29:55,159
land's gonna look
like now, I guess.
593
00:29:55,260 --> 00:29:58,228
Yeah, we'll just gather
everybody up to do that.
But it's still...
594
00:29:58,230 --> 00:30:01,165
I want to divide it
the same way.
595
00:30:01,233 --> 00:30:03,801
-Same way we planned,
divide it the same way.
-Well, let's just talk...
596
00:30:03,803 --> 00:30:06,336
You know, Kody is stuck
on this five lots.
597
00:30:06,438 --> 00:30:11,241
He, even with Christine gone,
there's four lots.
We could make this work.
598
00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:13,644
I think he thinks he's some
sort of guy who's gonna
599
00:30:13,712 --> 00:30:16,847
build all these houses,
rent them and that's great.
600
00:30:16,949 --> 00:30:19,917
That's great if he wants to,
just, just give me my piece.
601
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:21,718
I just want my piece.
I want my estate.
602
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,688
I want to be able
to build on my...
build a house.
603
00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:28,892
This has gotten kind
of ridiculous because
we don't have the money now.
604
00:30:28,894 --> 00:30:32,930
And I think it's an illusion
that she's convincing herself
605
00:30:32,932 --> 00:30:36,233
of that somehow if she works
her will,
606
00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:38,502
that we'll be
successful at this.
607
00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:41,605
And it's just, there's--
it's just not there.
608
00:30:41,607 --> 00:30:43,707
-Are you going to show
these to Meri and Robyn?
-Yeah.
609
00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:46,643
Yeah, I mean,
if they're interesting,
if they're interested.
610
00:30:46,745 --> 00:30:48,912
-They probably will be.
-That's cool.
611
00:30:48,914 --> 00:30:51,348
I live in a bureaucracy.
612
00:30:51,450 --> 00:30:54,451
Like, we do everything
by committee decision.
613
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,921
It's the most frustrating
part of my life.
614
00:30:57,923 --> 00:31:01,258
I honestly think it's just
part of a plural family tha
chooses to work together.
615
00:31:01,326 --> 00:31:03,827
There are many plural families
who, like, the wives
616
00:31:03,829 --> 00:31:05,362
all maintain their own
separate households.
617
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:06,863
They're all very independent.
618
00:31:06,865 --> 00:31:10,500
The husband disperses
his resources among
his households.
619
00:31:10,502 --> 00:31:13,871
We chose a long time ago
to work together.
620
00:31:13,873 --> 00:31:17,407
And even though that's changed
a little bit in the last six
or seven years,
621
00:31:17,409 --> 00:31:18,842
everybody's really
starting to think more
622
00:31:18,944 --> 00:31:20,844
about their estate
and all that stuff.
623
00:31:20,946 --> 00:31:22,212
So we're separating.
624
00:31:22,214 --> 00:31:24,248
There's still very
intertwined pieces
of our lives
625
00:31:24,316 --> 00:31:25,916
that we have
to work together on.
626
00:31:27,753 --> 00:31:30,187
[Kody] In the very beginning
when our family came togethe
627
00:31:30,189 --> 00:31:33,824
we built a family that said,
these are our children.
628
00:31:33,826 --> 00:31:36,860
And as those older children
started to grow up and leave
629
00:31:36,962 --> 00:31:39,630
it stopped being our children.
630
00:31:39,632 --> 00:31:42,399
It started being
my children and your children.
631
00:31:42,401 --> 00:31:46,336
So I've got Robyn with,
you know, no empty nest.
Nobody's left home.
632
00:31:46,438 --> 00:31:49,606
And Janelle, almost
everybody has left home.
633
00:31:49,608 --> 00:31:52,743
Christine, almost
everybody's left home.
634
00:31:52,844 --> 00:31:54,745
We're in a very
different place.
635
00:31:54,846 --> 00:31:58,916
It's not necessarily sinister,
but the family's not working
together anymore
636
00:31:58,918 --> 00:32:01,718
and hasn't
for a very long time.
637
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,054
You know, it's like it doesn
really hurt for Janelle to g
638
00:32:04,156 --> 00:32:07,557
and spend the holidays
with her kids.
639
00:32:07,659 --> 00:32:11,194
But what does that do for me?
I've got little kids at home.
640
00:32:11,196 --> 00:32:14,498
It's an evolution
in the family that has left me
641
00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:20,237
feeling alone in many ways
and not supported by my wives.
642
00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:24,007
-Yeah.
-Is anyone else thinking
about coming soon?
643
00:32:24,009 --> 00:32:26,243
-Building soon?
-Um...
644
00:32:26,345 --> 00:32:29,146
I don't really talk
with Meri about it.
645
00:32:29,247 --> 00:32:32,716
Any time I bring it out,
she just seems really
wishy-washy about it.
646
00:32:32,718 --> 00:32:35,052
I don't know
what she's thinking,
what her intentions are,
647
00:32:35,153 --> 00:32:38,055
but she would be the most
likely to start building nex
648
00:32:38,757 --> 00:32:40,057
And I want, I want that.
649
00:32:40,092 --> 00:32:42,326
I want her to feel like
she can do that, you know,
650
00:32:42,328 --> 00:32:46,229
so she'll be partnering
with us on, you know,
651
00:32:46,231 --> 00:32:47,597
what we want
to accomplish out here,
652
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:49,633
especially getting it
paid off.
653
00:32:49,702 --> 00:32:52,202
-But she's got to decide where
she's gonna build there.
-[Janelle] Yeah.
654
00:32:52,204 --> 00:32:54,471
So that's a conversation,
that's a really,
that's the next step.
655
00:32:54,473 --> 00:32:55,838
There can... We can't assume.
656
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,208
-So we just have to--
-Can't make
any assumptions so...
657
00:32:58,210 --> 00:33:00,344
So we just have to talk
to them about where,
658
00:33:00,412 --> 00:33:02,746
what we're doing
with the property now
that there's not Christine.
659
00:33:02,815 --> 00:33:04,380
Right.
660
00:33:04,382 --> 00:33:07,417
So since we started having
all these conversations
about the property,
661
00:33:07,419 --> 00:33:10,220
and I get that I was
kind of undecided, like,
662
00:33:10,222 --> 00:33:12,022
for a while, like,
"Do I want
to be in the trees?
663
00:33:12,024 --> 00:33:14,024
Do I not want
to be in the trees?"
You know?
664
00:33:14,026 --> 00:33:16,693
Like, this was
a big conversation.
665
00:33:16,695 --> 00:33:21,365
But since we decided, like,
where the property lines
666
00:33:21,433 --> 00:33:25,402
were all gonna be and, like,
we knew who was gonna be
667
00:33:25,404 --> 00:33:27,904
on each piece of property,
668
00:33:27,906 --> 00:33:29,706
I've been like,
"Great, this is it."
669
00:33:29,708 --> 00:33:31,708
So I just rented a house.
670
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:35,512
I didn't want to tie up
the funds for when I could
671
00:33:35,514 --> 00:33:38,215
eventually build
out on the property.
672
00:33:38,217 --> 00:33:39,916
So yeah, I've got
to keep moving forward.
673
00:33:39,918 --> 00:33:41,752
So we need to meet
with everybody and figure out
674
00:33:41,754 --> 00:33:44,521
if everybody is good with
the dividing still or...
675
00:33:47,059 --> 00:33:50,427
[Kody] There's an element th
I'm struggling with here,
676
00:33:50,429 --> 00:33:53,964
and we've just gone through
this entire COVID thing
677
00:33:54,033 --> 00:33:58,135
where I've been left feeling
pretty disrespected.
678
00:33:58,137 --> 00:34:01,838
I'm not gonna break
my back to work for you
when you don't respect me.
679
00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:03,940
I'm just not.
680
00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:05,976
Janelle needs somebody
who'll break their back
681
00:34:05,978 --> 00:34:08,812
to get this project done
and that's not me right now.
682
00:34:13,352 --> 00:34:17,120
Men don't feel love
from women
who don't respect them.
683
00:34:17,122 --> 00:34:21,324
I feel like Janelle struggles
to respect me
or show me respect.
684
00:34:21,326 --> 00:34:23,026
It might be
an unfair statement.
I don't know.
685
00:34:23,028 --> 00:34:25,429
Maybe it's just
the way that we argue.
686
00:34:25,431 --> 00:34:30,100
If you don't respect me,
don't bother with the love.
687
00:34:30,102 --> 00:34:31,601
It just doesn't
work in my world.
688
00:34:37,509 --> 00:34:39,810
Don't think you should put
the snowblower in first.
689
00:34:39,812 --> 00:34:41,044
-Let me--
-[Christine] Okay.
690
00:34:41,146 --> 00:34:44,047
He doesn't need to be here
micromanaging how I fill up
691
00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:46,116
this trailer
with the last of my crap.
692
00:34:46,118 --> 00:34:48,819
We never had
a snowblower in Utah.
And there was...
693
00:34:48,821 --> 00:34:51,721
I know. But I have one now,
and I love it.
694
00:34:51,723 --> 00:34:54,524
She's proving that
she's the independent
woman now
695
00:34:54,526 --> 00:34:58,328
by telling me how the best
way to pack this is.
696
00:34:58,330 --> 00:35:01,465
It bothered me to the core.
697
00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:14,344
So I got a trailer to put
my last minute things in it.
698
00:35:15,914 --> 00:35:17,514
Hey.
699
00:35:17,516 --> 00:35:19,616
So Kody's gonna come help
load the snowblower
because it's just too heavy.
700
00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:21,184
I can't make it work,
but that's it,
701
00:35:21,186 --> 00:35:22,953
I can load the rest
of it just fine.
702
00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:25,322
-So are you moving
all of that stuff...
-Hopefully. That'll be great.
703
00:35:25,324 --> 00:35:26,456
[Kody] ...on this trip?
704
00:35:26,458 --> 00:35:28,125
Order of importance,
the snowblower because
705
00:35:28,127 --> 00:35:30,193
I want the weight
in the front of the thing.
706
00:35:30,195 --> 00:35:32,963
You know, I guess I can
help her load
the whole trailer.
707
00:35:33,064 --> 00:35:34,965
I don't know what else
she's doing.
708
00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:37,100
Here's the thing, Christine.
This... this weight,
709
00:35:37,102 --> 00:35:39,536
the weight of these items
should go in the front
710
00:35:39,605 --> 00:35:41,304
because that's
all your organization.
711
00:35:41,306 --> 00:35:45,675
When you're pulling a trailer,
you want the weight
in the front.
712
00:35:45,677 --> 00:35:49,312
If your weight is in the back,
then it starts lifting
713
00:35:49,314 --> 00:35:52,816
in a way that will start
making the trailer rock
on the road.
714
00:35:52,818 --> 00:35:55,919
The snowblower, though
it's heavy, isn't condensed
715
00:35:55,921 --> 00:35:58,622
It's... You're not gonna
have the same density
716
00:35:58,624 --> 00:36:01,057
as you will by putting
all the boxes in front.
717
00:36:01,059 --> 00:36:03,260
So I think she should put
the boxes in the front.
718
00:36:03,361 --> 00:36:06,930
If this is going in the last
with just soft stuff
around it,
719
00:36:06,932 --> 00:36:10,400
but if it's going in first,
we don't pack around it.
720
00:36:10,402 --> 00:36:12,034
-Okay.
-If these boxes--
721
00:36:12,036 --> 00:36:14,404
So you don't mind helping me
with everything then,
loading up everything?
722
00:36:14,406 --> 00:36:17,007
I don't think you should
put the snowblower in first.
723
00:36:17,009 --> 00:36:18,708
-Let me...
-[Christine] Okay.
724
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:22,112
Oh, my gosh.
All I really need his help for
is the snowblower.
725
00:36:22,114 --> 00:36:23,246
That's it.
726
00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:27,784
I want it in front because
then I'm done and he can go.
727
00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:30,420
That's why I keep on saying,
"You're gonna help me load
all of it then?"
728
00:36:30,422 --> 00:36:34,958
Trying to get him to be like
"Oh, I don't want to stay
and help you load all of it
729
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,929
Let's put the snowblower
in first" and then I'll go,
"That's a great idea."
730
00:36:38,931 --> 00:36:41,198
-I mean, go ahead--
-Will you actually...
731
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,500
We never had
a snowblower in Utah.
732
00:36:43,502 --> 00:36:46,603
I know, but I have
one now and I love it.
733
00:36:46,605 --> 00:36:49,039
He doesn't need to be here
micromanaging
734
00:36:49,041 --> 00:36:52,042
how I fill up this trailer
with the last of my crap.
735
00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:55,946
This is the deal.
I can put the boxes in my car.
I cannot put those in my car.
736
00:36:55,948 --> 00:36:59,049
More than anything,
those are going with me
this trip.
737
00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:00,717
They are. What?
738
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,052
-I wouldn't--
-I know you wouldn't.
739
00:37:02,054 --> 00:37:04,087
Kody, I know. Thank you.
740
00:37:04,089 --> 00:37:06,256
I'm going to be
in charge of this.
741
00:37:06,358 --> 00:37:10,727
I need those with me now
because I can take
all the boxes.
742
00:37:10,729 --> 00:37:12,062
I can take
all the miscellaneous stuff.
743
00:37:12,097 --> 00:37:13,463
-[Kody] Okay.
-I can take...
744
00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:15,932
No, I'm not saying right now,
but I'm saying this trip.
745
00:37:16,001 --> 00:37:17,300
All right.
746
00:37:23,041 --> 00:37:25,742
Yeah. She doesn't want
to listen to actually
good advice,
747
00:37:25,844 --> 00:37:28,645
so I'm just gonna
cram it all in here.
748
00:37:28,713 --> 00:37:29,546
[grunting]
749
00:37:29,615 --> 00:37:31,047
Let's just get this done.
750
00:37:31,049 --> 00:37:34,718
She's... she's proving
that she's the independent
woman now by
751
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,854
telling me how the best way
to pack this is.
752
00:37:37,956 --> 00:37:40,423
It bothered me to the core.
753
00:37:42,461 --> 00:37:46,730
Okay, I would start packing
boxes around these.
754
00:37:46,732 --> 00:37:49,933
I think it's super important
to be independent
as a plural wife.
755
00:37:50,002 --> 00:37:52,035
I did.
And the guy is not around.
The husband is not around.
756
00:37:52,037 --> 00:37:54,537
He has so many
different places to be.
757
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:58,541
I... And frankly,
that's one of my favorite
qualities about myself
758
00:37:58,643 --> 00:38:00,043
that I can do things
on my own.
759
00:38:00,045 --> 00:38:03,046
I think it's so empowering
just to be able
to get stuff done.
760
00:38:05,417 --> 00:38:06,816
I need all those bags.
761
00:38:06,818 --> 00:38:10,854
Let's get anything soft
so I can build up
around these now.
762
00:38:10,955 --> 00:38:15,125
We've had arguments
like this forever,
but I was in charge.
763
00:38:15,127 --> 00:38:17,327
She's actually reversed
the roles and she says,
764
00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:19,729
"I don't care
what you're saying,
we're gonna do it this way.
765
00:38:20,365 --> 00:38:21,564
And I'm like...
766
00:38:24,703 --> 00:38:26,436
I don't have to help you.
767
00:38:26,538 --> 00:38:30,240
Just let me get by you.
Thank you.
768
00:38:30,309 --> 00:38:33,310
I'm struggling so much with
this divorce, it's probably
769
00:38:33,312 --> 00:38:35,412
poisoning my relationship
with Janelle a little bit
770
00:38:35,414 --> 00:38:38,148
and definitely poisoning
my relationship with Robyn
a little bit.
771
00:38:38,183 --> 00:38:44,020
And I think that's partly
because I haven't figured out
772
00:38:44,022 --> 00:38:47,257
what I am when
we're not this family.
773
00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:49,726
Like, this has been
my purpose for so long.
774
00:38:49,728 --> 00:38:51,761
This is what
I've done for so long.
775
00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:54,731
I'm... I'm out of my frame
and I'm out of my purpose.
776
00:38:58,103 --> 00:39:01,004
I'm spiritually off course.
I know that.
777
00:39:01,006 --> 00:39:04,341
I'm a mess and I don't know
778
00:39:04,442 --> 00:39:07,911
what it's gonna take
to put me back on course.
779
00:39:07,913 --> 00:39:09,612
All right.
Thank you for your help.
780
00:39:09,614 --> 00:39:10,847
-Bye, dad.
-[Kody] See you. Love you.
781
00:39:10,882 --> 00:39:13,149
-[Christine] Thank you.
-Hey, a hug. Come on.
782
00:39:13,251 --> 00:39:15,085
Just because I'm sweaty,
I'm the one
that did all the work.
783
00:39:15,087 --> 00:39:16,319
Come on.
784
00:39:16,321 --> 00:39:18,655
Babe, you did not do it all,
you just did a lot.
785
00:39:18,723 --> 00:39:20,924
Oh, my gosh.
I think we've all
learned a lesson today.
786
00:39:20,926 --> 00:39:25,762
I can stand up for myself
and be strong
and make a stand.
787
00:39:25,831 --> 00:39:28,798
And I can also not ask him
for help ever again.
788
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,334
Both have been great
decisions made today.
789
00:39:31,436 --> 00:39:34,237
[Kody] All right, ladies.
Have a good trip.
790
00:39:34,339 --> 00:39:36,906
[Christine] Thank you.
Thanks for your help.
791
00:39:36,908 --> 00:39:38,508
Appreciate it.
792
00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:40,443
[Kody] This is the end
of an era for our family.
793
00:39:40,512 --> 00:39:42,512
And she's gone. She's done.
794
00:39:42,514 --> 00:39:45,615
And I've got
all these mixed feelings
795
00:39:45,617 --> 00:39:48,518
because Truely is going
and that's a real
disappointment.
796
00:39:48,653 --> 00:39:52,188
And I'm at this place
where I can't tell
797
00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:55,125
if I'm just relieved
that Christine's going
798
00:39:55,127 --> 00:39:58,728
or if I'm disappointed
with it.
799
00:40:02,033 --> 00:40:04,601
She's called me a lot
of things
since this has happened,
800
00:40:04,603 --> 00:40:06,202
and I think she called me
a coward once
801
00:40:06,204 --> 00:40:08,605
and I kind of went, "Yeah,
I've been a little cowardly."
802
00:40:08,607 --> 00:40:11,441
Maybe I should have actually
told her that I didn't
like her.
803
00:40:13,512 --> 00:40:16,045
But what I didn't do
was I didn't quit.
804
00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:19,048
Bye. Love you. Bye-bye.
805
00:40:23,622 --> 00:40:29,392
Once this anger settles,
I hope I feel differently.
806
00:40:29,394 --> 00:40:32,028
But I hope
it's not heartbreak.
807
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:36,399
I just don't want
to experience heartbreak here.
808
00:40:46,311 --> 00:40:48,511
[narrator]
Next time on Sister Wives..
809
00:40:48,513 --> 00:40:51,047
You and I have been acting
like we weren't
a married couple
810
00:40:51,116 --> 00:40:52,982
for most of our marriage,
Janelle.
811
00:40:52,984 --> 00:40:54,651
Okay, I'm spitting mad now.
812
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,687
Maybe this is not a good fit.
Maybe this doesn't work.
813
00:40:57,689 --> 00:41:00,056
It feels like
we're unraveling.
814
00:41:00,058 --> 00:41:02,425
I'm thinking, what the hell
am I doing here?
815
00:41:04,029 --> 00:41:08,465
I have somebody in my life
who is fundamentally
loyal to me.
816
00:41:08,533 --> 00:41:11,134
I'm not gonna become Robyn.
817
00:41:11,236 --> 00:41:14,938
[Robyn] We were following
all the protocols and still
somehow COVID got us.
818
00:41:15,006 --> 00:41:19,142
I'm just... just waiting
to see the doctor.
819
00:41:19,244 --> 00:41:21,311
[Kody] Robyn's not improving
She's not improving.
820
00:41:21,313 --> 00:41:24,647
I think that I was sitting
there watching Robyn,
821
00:41:24,749 --> 00:41:26,416
wondering if she
was going to live.