NATALIE: IT'S FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 23 AND IT'S TIME FOR "THE TALK."
DO YOU AND YOUR PARTNER FIGHT BY TEXT?
WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT RELATIONSHIP EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE PROS AND
CONS OF FEXTING. JON HAMM TELLS HOWARD STERN HE'S
VERY MUCH IN LOVE AND READY TO DO THE WORK TO BE EMOTIONALLY
AVAILABLE. AND THEN FROM HIT FILMS LIKE
"BARBERSHOP" AND "THINK LIKE A MAN" MICHAEL EALY TELLS US ABOUT
HIS COMPELLING AND STEAMY LEGAL DRAMA ON "REASONABLE DOUBT."
AND SEAN KANAN GIVES THE SCOOP ON THE REFORMED BAD BOY DEACON
FROM "THE BOLD ANDTHE BEAUTIFUL" AND HIS CROSSOVER WITH "THE
YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS." SO LET'S TALK.
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NATALIE: FRIDAY DANCE PARTY. YOU KNOW I LIKE IT.
ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. IT'S FRIDAY NIGHT.
YOU GUYS ARE READY TO GO CLUBBING OVER THERE.
AKBAR: AFTER THE SHOW, WE'RE GOING TO THE CLUB.
NATALIE: WELCOME TO "THE TALK," OUR CLUB.
GUYS, WE'LL START WITH TWO TRENDS MAKING HEADLINES AND SEE
IF YOU WEIGH IN IF YOU'VE DONE THIS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE. THE FIRST IS CALLED FEXTING WITH
AN F. NOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE DONE IT
AND MAY NOT KNOW YOU HAVE. IT'S A NEW BUZZWORD WHEN YOU'RE
FIGHTING WITH YOUR PARTNER OVER TEXT AND MORE AND MORE COUPLES
ARE DOING IT. AND A MARRIAGE COUNSELOR TOLD
"HUFFPOST" THAT FEXTING IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU
SPACE AND ALLOWS YOU NOT TO BE PRESSURED IN RESOLVING YOUR
CONFLICT ON THE SPOT. WHAT DO YOU THINK, ARE YOU
FEXTING, AKBAR, FEXTING OR NOT? AKBAR: I'M AN EXTROVERT AND I'M
AN AUDIBLE PROCESSOR, I HAVE TO SPEAK IT OUT.
I HAVE TO HEAR IT MYSELF. MY WIFE IS AN INTERNAL PROCESSOR
AND SHE'S AN INTROVERT. IT'S SO DIFFICULT.
BECAUSE I WANT TO TAKE IT HEAD ON AND TALK BUT MY WIFE'S
PREFERRED WAY OF FIGHTING IS THROUGH TEXT AND I'M A THREE,
FOUR, AND HELP I'M DONE, WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T LIKE FEXTING BECAUSE YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR ATTENTION.
MY WIFE CAN CUT ME, OH, NO, BABY, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.
COME ON. IT SAYS -- NO, YOU TOOK IT THAT
WAY. YOU CAN ALWAYS HIDE BEHIND
FEXTING BUT YOU CAN READ BODY LANGUAGE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING AND
HEAR THE TONE. I DON'T LIKE IT BUT I DO ENGAGE
ABOUT THREE METS INCHES -- MESSAGES IN AND THEN AFTER THAT
I'M DONE. AMANDA: YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT'S DANGEROUS BECAUSE OF THE INFLECTION OR THE TONE IN WHICH
SOMEBODY IS SENDING A MESSAGE AND HOW YOU'RE RECEIVING IT AND
HOW BASED ON YOUR MOOD OR WHAT THE TOPIC IS.
SHERYL: I DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE AUTO CORRECT.
I PUT IN ONE WORD AND FUNDAMENTAL WAS NOT THE -- AND
FUDGE WAS NOT THE WORD I PUT IN. NATALIE: JERRY, DO YOU FEXT?
JERRY: I DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IF WE'RE HAVING A VERBAL
ARGUMENT AND TIME PASSES, I CAN BE LIKE -- MY WIFE CAN BE LIKE,
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT. AND I'LL BE LIKE, I NEVER SAID
THAT. YOU BUT IF YOU FEXT, I'LL SAY I
NEVER SAID THAT AND MY WIFE IS LIKE OH, YES, YOU DID.
AKBAR: I GUESS IT GOES BOTH WAYS.
JERRY: IT'S MORE OFFENSIVE TO FEXT.
IF YOU'RE IN AN ARGUMENT, YOU CAN BLAME IT -- I'M SO SORRY,
THE EMOTIONS GOT ME. BUT IF YOU FEXT YOU HAD TIME TO
THINK ABOUT IT AND HIT SEND. AKBAR: THAT'S A REALLY GOOD
POINT. JERRY: IT'S MORE OFFENSIVE.
NATALIE: IF IT'S A HEATED ARGUMENT BUT SOMETIMES TAKING A
BREAK AND THEN MAKING SURE YOU REALLY FEEL YOUR WORDS AND WHAT
YOU'RE THINKING BEFORE YOU PUT IT DOWN, RIGHT?
AKBAR: HERE'S THE THING THAT'S FRUSTRATING.
HEY, YOU'RE UPSTAIRS, CAN YOU COME DOWNSTAIRS.
NATALIE: RIGHT ON. AMANDA: MAYBE SHE'S SO MAD SHE
DOESN'T WANT TO SEE YOUR FACE. AKBAR: SOMETIMES SHE'S RIGHT
ACROSS ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND I'M RIGHT THERE.
YOU WANT ME TO PICK UP MY PHONE AND READ IT HERE WHEN YOU'RE
OVER THERE? NATALIE: THIS IS FRIDAY NIGHT AT
AKBAR'S HOUSE. THAT'S YOUR WIFE ON THE COUCH
AND THIS IS AKBAR. AND THEY'RE BOTH LIKE RESPOND.
AKBAR: WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. DID YOU READ YOUR TEXT?
GO AHEAD AND READ THE TEXT. READ IT.
WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. JERRY: I'LL TELL YOU WHO I DON'T
WANT TO FEXT WITH. I DON'T WANT TO FEXT WITH MY
CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY ONLY SPEAK EMOJI.
NATALIE: TALKING ABOUT OFFICE DRESS CODES, "THE NEW YORK POST"
REPORTS THAT GEN-ZERS AND MILLENIALS ARE WEARING SHORT
SKIRTS AND SHEER TOPS TO THE OFFICE AND DRESSING FOR THE CLUB
THAN THE CUBIC AL. CUBICLE.
MANY PEOPLE IN THEIR AGE GROUP CONSIDER DRESS CODES
OLD-FASHIONED AND ONE WOMAN TOLD "THE POST" IT SHOULDN'T MATTER
WHAT SHE WEARS AS LONG AS SHE'S GETTING HER WORK DONE.
ARE OFFICE DRESS CODES OUTDATED. WE NEED A GEN-ZER UP HERE.
AKBAR: I'M KIND OF A GEN-ZER. SHERYL: IT DEPENDS ON YOUR
CAREER FIELD. I DON'T WANT TO SEE MY SURGEON
WALK IN LIKE SOME HO FROM LAST NIGHT OR SOMETHING, I'M NOT
TAKING YOU SERIOUS. I NEED TO YOU COME IN LOOKING
LIKE YOU READY TO DO THE JOB THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
AMANDA: YOU KNOW WHAT'S SO FUNNY, YOU GUYS, MY DAD STILL
TELLS STORIES OF MY MOM USED TO BE A SECRETARY AT MY DAD'S
INSURANCE COMPANY. THAT'S HOW THEY MET.
AND APPARENTLY MY MOM WAS ALWAYS WEARING SUPERSHORT MINI SKIRTS
AND JUST WALKING AROUND THE OFFICE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GEN-ZERS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S
BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. SHERYL: AT THE TIME, WASN'T THAT
THE STYLE, TOO? THAT WAS THE STYLE.
AMANDA: RIGHT. BUT GEN-ZERS SAY THE STYLE IS
APPROPRIATE. BUT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE IS THE
DRESS CODE. SHERYL: THEY'RE SAYING SHEER
CLOTHES. AMANDA: THAT'S THE STYLE, CROP
TOPS. SHERYL: IF YOU'RE IN AN OFFICE
DRESSED LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH
YOU. IF YOU'RE OUT HAVING LUNCH --
AMANDA: WOULD YOU WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH MY MOM AND HER
MINI SKIRT. NATALIE: YOUR DAD WANTED TO DO
BUSINESS WITH HER. SHERYL: I DIDN'T WANT TO PUT IT
ON YOUR MAMA AND DADDY LIKE THAT.
SHE WAS LOOKING FLY. YOUR MOM'S GOT THE FLY BODY AND
THE DRESS AND EVERYTHING. I CAN SEE THEM BOOTS MADE FOR
WALKING. THAT'S RIGHT.
NATALIE: MY ADVICE IN LIFE AND WHAT I'VE HEARD IS DRESS FOR THE
JOB YOU WANT, NOT NECESSARILY THE JOB YOU HAVE.
SHERYL: THERE IT IS. NATALIE: TO ME, IF I WANT TO BE
THAT CAREER PROFESSIONAL AND IF I'M CHASING THAT JOB, I'M GOING
TO GET THAT LOOK AND MAKE SURE I DRESS FOR THAT PART.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. DON'T GO AWAY.
NATALIE: WELCOME BACK TO "THE TALK."
IT'S BEEN QUITE A YEAR FOR JON HAMM, HE STARS IN THE
BLOCKBUSTER "TOP GUN: MAVERICK" AND HIS NEW MOVIE "CONFESS,
FLETCH." AND HE IS IN LOVE WITH US
GIRLFRIEND ANNA OSCEOLA. HE TELLS HOWARD STERN.
JON: I'M IN A RELATIONSHIP NOW. AND IT'S COMFORTABLE AND IT'S A
FEELING OF TAKING CARE OF SOMEONE ELSE AND BEING TAKEN
CARE OF. IT'S A PROCESS OF WORKING ON
MYSELF AND MENTAL HEALTH AND ALL THIS STUFF WITH MY THERAPIST AND
UNPACKING ALL THE TRAUMA AND REALIZING WHEN YOU LOSE SOMEBODY
THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO YOU LIKE A MOTHER SO EARLY THAT THAT
CREATES A WOUND. HOWARD.
ABSOLUTELY. JON: THAT BLOCKS A LOT OF THE
EMOTIONAL ACCESSIBILITY AND BLOCKS A LOT OF THAT
AVAILABILITY AND VULNERABILITY. NATALIE: I LIKE THIS
CONVERSATION. EMOTIONAL AVAILABILITY.
I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING IN MY MARRIAGE -- JOE IS A SPREADSHEET
GUY, A DOER, HE LAYS EVERYTHING OUT AND IS VERY METHODICAL.
THAT'S GREAT FOR HIM BECAUSE HE'S CALM AND SOMETIMES IN
HEATED MOMENTS, HE'S MR. SPREADSHEET GUY AND THEN
THERE'S ME ON THE OTHER SIDE -- AND HE'S ALWAYS LIKE OH, MY
GOSH, HERE WE GO AGAIN. BUT IT IS THAT WHOLE, YOU HAVE
TO WORK OUT WHAT THE BALANCE IS ON THAT, RIGHT?
UNLIKE JON HAMM, FORTUNATELY BOTH MY PARENTS ARE AROUND AND I
HAVE THAT SUPPORT. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO
ARE SORT OF ON OPPOSITE ENDS OF HOW THEY COME TOGETHER AND HOW
DO THEY, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THINGS, IT CAN SOMETIMES --
THERE'S A SCENE IN THE MOVIE "FARGO" AND STEVE IS AT ONE
POINT YOU'RE JUST A BLANK OF CONVERSATION.
THAT'S A CONSTANT CONVERSATION IN MY HOUSE.
GIVE ME MORE, JOE. I NEED MORE CONVERSATION.
AKBAR: IT REALLY DOES GO BACK TO THAT TRAUMA.
HE WAS TALKING ABOUT LOSING HIS MOM.
I LOST MY MOM WHEN I WAS 19, 20 YEARS OLD AND I THINK, YOU KNOW,
IT WASN'T UNTIL YEARS LATER THAT YOU REALIZE WHEN YOU DON'T DEAL
WITH THE EMOTIONAL TRAUMAS, YOU LOCK IT AWAY AND THEY CAN BECOME
UNACCESSIBLE AND THEY ARE LOCKED AWAY AND IT STARTS TO MOVE YOU
SUBCONSCIOUSLY AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE DOING THE THINGS
YOU'RE DOING. I THINK PART OF IT IS YOU DON'T
WANT TO GET THAT CHO TO SOMEONE EVER AGAIN KNOWING YOU CAN LOSE
THEM. IT'S TRAUMATIC WHEN YOU LOSE
SOMEBODY AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A
SELF-PRESERVATION TYPE OF THING THAT HAPPENED AND NOT UNTIL YOU
GET HELP TO UNLOCK THAT THAT YOU WILL MOVE FORWARD.
AMANDA: I REALLY LIKED HIS CONVERSATION AND THOUGHT IT WAS
VERY BRAVE OF HIM TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT HE WAS OPENING UP
FROM LEARNING FROM LOSING HIS MOTHER.
IT'S REALLY AN INTERESTING TOPIC.
AKBAR: TO BE CLOSED OFF AND THEN SAY I'M WILLING TO OPEN IT UP.
SOME PEOPLE NEVER GET TO THAT POINT AND DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY
TO FIND IT. AKBAR: ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.
SHERYL: HE IS IN LOVE AND GONE THROUGH THINGS AND NOW HE'S MORE
OPEN TO IT AND THANK HIM FOR BEING A MAN AND SAYING IT.
NATALIE: ALL RIGHT. COMING UP NEXT, IT'S OUR "QUICK
TALK" SEGMENT AND WE'LL GO THROUGH JUICY TOPICS IN RAPID
FIRE SPEED.
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NATALIE: WELCOME BACK TO "THE TALK."
IT'S TIME FOR OUR SPEED ROUND WHERE WE WEIGH IN ON A VARIETY
OF TOPICS PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN A SEGMENT WE CALL
"QUICK TALK." ALL RIGHT.
WE'VE GOT A LIST OF THINGS TO COVER HERE, GUYS, BUT WE DON'T
KNOW. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THEY ARE.
WE HAVE 45 SECONDS TO REACT TO EACH ONE.
THERE WILL BE A COUNTDOWN CLOCK WITH A DING TO TELL US WHEN TO
MOVE ON. FIRST TOPIC, THERE'S A NEW
FASHION TREND, PEOPLE ARE WEARING UNBUTTONED JEANS WITH
THEIR ZIPPERS DOWN ON PURPOSE. THEY SAY IT IS SEXY AND COOL BUT
WHAT DO YOU THINK, WOULD YOU DO IT?
LET'S PUT 45 SECONDS ON THE CLOCK.
THE TIMER STARTS NOW. SHERYL: MY UNCLE JUNIOR BEEN
DOING THIS. IT AIN'T NEW.
AMANDA: I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE DO THIS.
I'M SORRY, I'M STILL ON THE HIGH WASTED PANTS AND ZIPPED UP ALL
THE WAY. NATALIE: WOULD YOU CARE TO MODEL
THE TREND? JERRY: AM I ALLOWED TO MODEL THE
TREND? AKBAR: NO, NO, NO.
JERRY: OUR BOSSES SAY NO. SHERYL: WASN'T THERE A THING
WHERE THEY CUT OFF THE TOP OF THE THING OF THE JEANS WITH
MARIAH CAREY? AKBAR: IN THE 1990'S.
JERRY: YOU WOULD GET BUTTON FLY JEANS AND CUT OUT THE KNEW SO
YOU COULD SEE THE BUTTONS. AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT REMEMBERS
THAT. [.
[BUZZER] JERRY: SORRY, EVERYBODY.
AKBAR: YOU GOT BUZZED OFF. JERRY: SEE EVERYBODY MONDAY,
BYE. SHERYL: LIKE WHAT?
JERRY: WE NEED YOU BACK HERE. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" WONDERS IF
ANYONE DRINKS HOT COFFEE ANYMORE, COLD DRINKS COUNT FOR
60% OF STARBUCKS BEVERAGE SALES EVEN IN THE WINTER.
ARE YOU TEAM HOT COFFEE OR COLD COFFEE.
AKBAR, GO. AKBAR: IT'S HOT COFFEE OR IF I
WANT TO GO WITH THE COOLER TEMPERATURE, I ALWAYS GO GIVE ME
KIDS TIP. IT MEANS WARM.
KIDS TEMP. AMANDA: WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
AKBAR: KIDS TEMP. JERRY: GET IT HOT AND LET IT
COOL DOWN. SHERYL: ICED COFFEE IS VERY,
VERY GOOD ESPECIALLY AT BRUNCH. I LIKE ICED COFFEE.
AMANDA: I'M CAUGHT UP ON KIDS TEMP.
YOU ORDER COFFEE KIDS TEMP? AKBAR: I DO.
WHERE IS JACK? WHERE IS CLAYTON?
I SAY CAN I GET A KIDS TEMP? AMANDA: YOU GO IN A COFFEE SHOP
AND SAY I WANT A VENTE MOCHACINO.
JERRY: WHEN YOU ORDER IT, DO YOU DO IT IN A KIDS VOICE, CAN I
HAVE KIDS TEMP? AKBAR: THEY LOOK AT ME UP AND
DOWN, YOU WANT KIDS TEMP? YES, I WANT KIDS TEMP.
JERRY: NOT TOO HOT, NOT TOO COLD, JUST RIGHT.
NATALIE: THE TIKTOK TOPIC, A WOMAN'S DAD MADE A GREETING
TEMPLATE. HE CIRCLES THE OCCASION AND THE
PERSON'S NAME AND CALL ITS A DAY.
IS THIS OK? THE TIMER STARTS NOW.
I SAY BRILLIANT, THANK YOU, THAT'S IT.
GREETING CARDS ARE EXPENSIVE. AMANDA: HILARIOUS.
GREETING CARDS ARE EXPENSIVE. AN AVERAGE GREETING CARD IS
$5.95. AKBAR: I'VE SEEN $8.
AMANDA: THIS IS A GENIUS IDEA. MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE A
THIRD GRADER. NATALIE: THEY DON'T LIKE IT.
SHERYL: NO. I WANT TO YOU SPEND MONEY ON THE
CARD AND THEN PUT SOME MONEY IN THE CARD.
COME ON NOW. JERRY: I ONLY --
AKBAR: I ONLY LIKE CARDS WITH SOMETHING FUN ON THE INSIDE,
WHETHER IT'S MUSIC OR SOMETHING. THOSE MAKE ME FEEL SPECIAL.
NATALIE: WE LIKE THEM PERSONALIZED AND KIDS MAKE A
CARD AND PICTURES AND A CARD AND THAT'S MORE PERSONAL TO ME.
[BUZZER] JERRY: THAT'S IT!
NATALIE: WE'VE ALL HEARD OF CHARCUTERIE BOARDS BUT THE
CULINARY TREND IS A BUTTER BOARD.
IT FEATURES SOFTENED BUTTER WITH LEMON ZEST AND HERBS AND HONEY,
PERFECT FOR DIPPING. IT SOUNDS VERY HIGH CALORIE AND
HIGH FAT BUT SOUNDS DELICIOUS. LET'S GIVE IT A TRY.
THERE THEY ARE. JERRY: SO THEY SHMEAR BUTTER ON
HERE. NATALIE: FIG, MINT, HONEY AND
CINNAMON. JERRY: AND IT'S BUTTER.
NATALIE: YOU DOING THAT MUCH BUTTER?
JERRY: YEAH, I'M DOING IT. AKBAR: WHAT ABOUT MY ARTERIES?
JERRY: I LOVE BUTTER. NATALIE: THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
IT TAKES OLIVE OIL TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
SHERYL: DON'T DOUBLE DIP. NATALIE: JERRY JUST DID IT.
SHERYL: THAT'S NASTY NOW. THIS IS MY LITTLE AREA.
NATALIE: WHAT IS THIS ONE? AKBAR: I'M NOT A DOCTOR BUT I
THINK THIS IS GOOD FOR YOUR ARTERIES.
THIS TASTES REALLY GOOD. AMANDA: THIS IS DELICIOUS.
NATALIE: WHAT DOES THAT SAY? SHERYL: CILANTRO CHILE OIL.
BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT BREAD AND DIP IT.
AMANDA: WHEN THEY BRING YOU BREAD AND BUTTER.
THIS IS A COOL THING. [BUZZER]
JERRY: YOU DO HAVE TO TELL THEM IT'S BUTTER BECAUSE I THOUGHT
THAT WAS HUMMUS. AKBAR: NOTHING WORSE THAN GOING
TO A RESTAURANT AND HAVING BUTTER AND BREAD AND THE BUTTER
IS HARD AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
JERRY: AKBAR'S BUTTER HAS TO BE KIDS TEMP.
I LIKE KIDS TEMP. NATALIE: COMING UP NEXT, THE
CHARMING MICHAEL EALY IS HERE AND TELL US WHY "REASONABLE
DOUBT" IS A CRIME DRAMA THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS.
AKBAR: ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST GUEST IS A VERSATILE
AND TALENTED ACTOR WHO STARRED IN ICONIC FILMS LIKE
"BARBERSHOP" AND "THINK LIKE A MAN."
NOW HE'S PLAYING A FORMER INMATE WHO RECONNECTS WITH AN ATTORNEY
FROM HIS PAST IN THE RIVETTING NEW DRAMA SERIES "REASONABLE
DOUBT." PLEASE WELCOME MICHAEL EALY!
♪
SHERYL: WELCOME. WELCOME.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
NATALIE: WOW. SHERYL: ALL RIGHT, LADIES.
AND I KNOW. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
SHERYL: YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE LOVE YOU.
>> YEAH! SHERYL: REMEMBER I MET YOU AND I
JUST HUGGED YOUR WIFE AND SAID, THANK YOU, GIRL.
AMANDA: HE'S MARRIED, LADIES. CALM DOWN.
SHERYL: WE'RE SO PROUD OF YOU. AND IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THIS
MONTH MARKS THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF "BARBERSHOP?"
MICHAEL: YES. SHERYL: WHERE IS THE LAST TIME
YOU CAUGHT UP WITH ANYBODY ON THE CREW?
MICHAEL: SHAWN IS IN THE SHOW, "REASONABLE DOUBT," BUT I SAW
ICE CUBE AT A NASCAR RACE EARLIER THIS YEAR AND I WAS
LIKE, DUDE, MAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS, IT'S GOING TO BE
20 YEARS THIS SEPTEMBER, MAN. AND HE'S LIKE, OH, REALLY?
WE NEED TO MAKE ANOTHER ONE THEN.
AND I WAS LIKE, I REMEMBER FEELING THAT'S THE
ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT CUBE IMBUES EVERYWHERE.
LET'S GO MAKE MORE MONEY AND GET ANOTHER ONE.
SHERYL: I HEAR YOU LIKE NASCAR. MICHAEL: MY FIRST TIME GOING TO
NASCAR AND IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING.
I TOOK MY SON AND HE GOT TO GO DOWN WITH THE PIT CREW AND
EVERYTHING. HE WAS LIKE -- AHH.
AMAZING. NATALIE: YOU'RE ALSO CELEBRATING
A BIG MILESTONE, AN ANNIVERSARY. YES, LADY, HE'S 10 YEARS
MARRIED. NEXT MONTH.
WHAT IS ONE OF YOUR CORE PILLARS OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
MICHAEL: SO WITH MY WIFE WHEN WE WERE DATING, I TOLD HER, I SAID
LOOK, I'M NOT GOING TO BE THE MOST ROMANTIC GUY IN THE WORLD
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT MATTERS, I'VE DONE THAT AND IT HASN'T
WORKED OUT, I THINK WHAT I WANT TO BRING TO THIS RELATIONSHIP IF
THIS IS GOING TO GROW IS A CORE FRIENDSHIP.
I FELT LIKE THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I COULD --
THANK YOU. IT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
I FELT LIKE I COULD ACTUALLY BRING BECAUSE I THINK TOO MANY
PEOPLE GET CAUGHT UP IN ALL OF THE PROCEED MAN PARTICULAR
STUFF, AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T DO IT, DO NOT QUOTE ME
AS SAYING YOU SHOULD NOT DO IT. AKBAR: IT'S NOT A BAD QUOTE,
THOUGH. MICHAEL: IT'S ONE OF THOSE
THINGS, THE TRUST, THE LOYALTY, BEING ABLE TO DEPEND ON THAT
PERSON LIKE YOU WOULD A BEST, BEST FRIEND.
SHERYL: THAT'S RIGHT. MICHAEL: THAT TO ME WAS KEY.
NATALIE: THAT'S LASTING. THAT'S GOING TO LAST.
MICHAEL: I DIDN'T KNOW IT AT THE TIME BUT IT HAS SERVED US.
BEING MARRIED 10 YEARS IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.
NATALIE: IT IS. MICHAEL: THERE'S A LOT OF
NONROMANTIC MOMENTS WHEN YOU HAVE TWO KIDS AND YOU'RE
MARRIED. THERE'S A LOT OF NONROMANTIC
MOMENTS. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CORE
FRIENDSHIP -- AMANDA: YOU WERE JUST TRYING TO
GET OUT OF CELEBRATING VALENTINE'S DAY.
MICHAEL: PARTIALLY. AKBAR: WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT
EARLIER, DO YOU FEXT, FIGHT AND TEXT?
MICHAEL: NO, NOT REALLY. BECAUSE WE HAVE LEARNED THAT
THAT'S NOT HELPFUL. NATALIE: COMING UP NEXT, MICHAEL
WILL TAKE US INSIDE HIS NEW DRAMA SERIES "REASONABLE DOUBT"
SO DON'T GO AWAY.
>> I'M BEING GIVEN A CHANCE FOR PAROLE FOR THE FIRST TIME.
I CAN'T BLOW THAT. LOOK, I ALREADY LOST MY 30'S.
MY LITTLE NIECE'S HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION, VOTING FOR THE FIRST
BLACK PRESIDENT. I HAVE TO DO THIS.
>> IF YOU DO THIS, YOU WILL BE SAYING THAT YOU MURDERED THAT
MAN. YOU'LL BE SAYING THAT YOU'RE A
CRIMINAL. >> I THOUGHT YOU LIKED
CRIMINALS.
AMANDA: THAT WAS A CLIP OF THE HULU SERIES "REASONABLE DOUBT"
AND WE'RE BACK WITH ONE OF THE STARS, MICHAEL EALY!
SO YOU SAID THE SHOW IS ALL ABOUT THE CHOICES THAT WE MAKE
AND THE WHAT IFS IN LIFE. SO TELL US HOW SO THEN.
MICHAEL: THIS SHOW IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO A LOT OF
DIFFERENT PEOPLE. I THINK AT THE FOREFRONT, IT IS
AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WOMEN CAN DO IT ALL.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
OH, MY GOSH. LIKE WHAT EMAYATZY CORINEALDI IS
PULLING OFF IN THIS ROLE IS NOTHING SHORT OF MONUMENTAL AND
COVERING EVERYTHING AND NAILING IT.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL TO SEE. THERE'S ANOTHER THEME OF THE
CARDS WE'RE DEALT AND HOW WE DON'T DEAL WITH CERTAIN THINGS
THAT HAPPEN TO US IN OUR CHILDHOOD AND HOW THAT CAN
AFFECT US LATER ON IN LIFE AND THEN LASTLY I'D SAY IS
ESPECIALLY THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN HER AND I IS WHAT IF I HAD GONE
LEFT INSTEAD OF RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK ABOUT, PEOPLE QUESTION.
I THINK PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE IN RELATIONSHIPS LONG TERM OR
NOT, IF YOU HAVE AN OUNCE OF HUMANITY IN YOU, YOU PROBABLY
THOUGHT WHAT IF I WAS WITH VIRGIL OVER THERE OR, YOU KNOW,
I THINK CHRIS ROCK SAID IT BEST WHEN HE SAID, YOU EVER CATCH
YOUR WIFE LOOKING AT YOU ACROSS THE ROOM AND YOU WONDER WHAT
SHE'S THINKING ABOUT AND YOU REALIZE SHE'S THINKING, I COULD
HAVE DONE BETTER. SHERYL: THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, IN LOOKING AT THE CLIP, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO
OBJECTIFY YOU, I'M SAYING IT TO KEEP IT REAL.
YOU ARE VERY DASHINGLY HANDSOME BUT YOU PLAY BAD AND EVIL REALLY
VERY WELL. I'M TALKING TO YOU AS AN ACTOR
AND A PERSON WATCHING IT NOW. I WATCHED YOU PIVOT AROUND.
FIRST YOU STARTED VULNERABILITY AND THEN SHE WAS LIKE WELL, IF
YOU DO THIS, ARE YOU KIDDING ME, AND YOU LEANED IN, I THOUGHT YOU
LIKED CRIMINALS. I WAS LIKE DAMN!
HE PLAYING A HUSTLE MIND GAME BECAUSE DID YOU DO IT OR DID YOU
NOT DO IT OR IS THAT WHERE THE REASONABLE DOUBT COMES IN
BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OUT, RIGHT?
MICHAEL: IN THIS PARTICULAR CLIP I'M TRYING TO GET OUT AND I HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT. AND IF I JUST ADMIT TO A CRIME I
ALLEGEDLY DID NOT COMMIT, RIGHT, SO I HAVE TO -- BY DOING THAT,
I'M ADMITTING TO SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS I DID NOT DO, AND SO,
YOU KNOW, BUT AS YOU -- AS THE SHOW PROGRESSES, YOU REALIZE
THERE'S NOTHING HE WON'T DO FOR HER.
SHERYL: YEP, THAT RIGHT THERE. JERRY: MERE EALY, YOU'VE DONE A
LOT IN YOUR LONG, ILLUSTRIOUS CAREER AND MAY BE THE FIRST TIME
YOU'VE DONE A SEXY SCENE OVER THE PHONE.
WHAT IS GOING ON? MICHAEL: AT ITS CORE, IT'S PHONE
NEXT. IT'S PHONE NEXT.
IT'S PHONE SEX. AND MOST PEOPLE HAVE EITHER
TRIED IT AND FAILED OR TRIED IT AND SUCCEEDED.
IT'S UP TO YOU. I GUESS IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT
KIND OF GAME YOU HAVE. BUT THERE IS A SCENE IN THE
SHOW, THERE'S AN EPISODE THAT'S ALL ABOUT THE ORIGIN STORY OF
THESE TWO CHARACTERS AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS
WAS A REAL CONNECTION BETWEEN THESE TWO AND IT SUPERSEDED A
LOT OF KIND OF MISCELLANEOUS B.S.
SO THEY JUST HAD TO KIND OF -- THEY JUST PUSHED EACH OTHER'S
BUTTONS IN ALL THE RIGHT WAYS. NATALIE: ALL RIGHT.
SO MICHAEL, WE'VE SEEN YOU PLAY BAD AND YOU PLAY BAD REALLY
GOOD. YOU'VE PLAYED ALL KINDS OF
CHARACTERS, IS THERE A CHARACTER THAT YOU WOULD LOVE TO PLAY,
MAYBE A JAMES BOND CHARACTER OR SOMETHING?
AM I THINKING RIGHT? MICHAEL: YEAH.
IT WOULD BE AMAZING TO PLAY A SECRET AGENT THAT NEVER DIES.
AND CAN TRAVEL THE WORLD AND SPEAK VARIOUS LANGUAGES AND IN
ALL HONESTY, I'VE SAID THIS AND I WILL CLAIM IT, I'M GOING TO
CLAIM IT NOW AND SAY I'M LOOKING TO GET INTO THE DAD SPACE.
NATALIE: I LIKE THAT. MICHAEL: I REALLY LOVE
FATHERHOOD. IT HAS CHANGED ME IN SO MANY
WAYS. AND YOU KNOW, LIKE YESTERDAY WAS
MY DAUGHTER'S BIRTHDAY AND IT WAS, LIKE, I COULDN'T BE THERE
FOR HER SCHOOL PARTY AND IT JUST BROKE MY HEART.
I'VE GIVEN MYSELF GRACE, I'M OK. I'M GIVING MYSELF GRACE AND SHE
KNOWS I LOVE HER AND WE SNUGGLED AND READ AND EVERYTHING LAST
NIGHT. BUT IT'S CHANGED ME IN SUCH A
WAY I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE WHAT I KNOW AND BRING THAT TO
WHATEVER CHARACTER I PLAY. NEXT.
NATALIE: I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU LIKE THAT. YEAH.
ALL RIGHT. MICHAEL: IT WOULD BE FUN.
NATALIE: MICHAEL EALY, YOU'RE AWESOME.
THANKS FOR COMING BY. "REASONABLE DOUBT" PREMIERES
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27 ON HULU. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
NATALIE: UP NEXT FROM "THE BOLD ANDTHE BEAUTIFUL," SEAN KANAN.
SHERYL: OUR NEXT GUEST PLAYS ONE OF DAY TIME'S MOST NOTORIOUS BAD
BOYS. BUT NOW DEACON SHARPE IS
ATTEMPTING TO WALK THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW, AND IT APPEARS HE'S
EVEN WILLING TO HELP HIS EX WHILE SHE'S VISITING LOS ANGELES
FROM GENOA CITY. TAKE A LOOK.
>> I HOPE THIS DOES THE TRICK. >> ME, TOO.
THANKS. >> NIKKI, IF THERE'S ANYTHING
ELSE I CAN DO, LET ME KNOW. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE A
CLASS ACT. YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, YOU ALWAYS
WILL BE. SHERYL: FROM THE MOST WATCHED
U.S. PRODUCED DAY TIME DRAMA IN THE WORLD, "THE BOLD AND THE
BEAUTIFUL," PLEASE WELCOME SEAN KANAN.
♪
SHERYL: DEACON SHARPE, YOU'RE LOOKING SHARP.
LET'S GET INTO A LITTLE "BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL DISCUSSION."
DEACON IS WORKING HARD TO CHANGE HIS WAYS BECAUSE OF HIS DAUGHTER
HOPE. BUT I GUESS WE ALL WANT TO KNOW,
IS IT GOING TO STICK? ARE YOU REALLY REFORMED OR WHAT
IS HAPPENING? ARE YOU ABOUT TO BACKSLIDE?
SEAN: I THINK THE GUY IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
I THINK HE'S BURNED SO MANY BRIDGES, HE'S LEFT WITH THE
OPPORTUNITIES TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE BACKDOOR TO GET DONE
WHAT HE WANTS TO GET DONE. I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH MORE THAN MAYBE LIKE A WEEK AND A HALF,
TWO WEAKNESS ADVANCE WHEN I GET THE SCRIPT SO I'M INTERESTED TO
SEE WHAT HAPPENS. AS LONG AS THEY STAY OUT OF THE
BROOM CLOSET. SHERYL: YOU'RE TRYING TO REFORM
BUT ARE YOU DOING BAD THINGS FOR GOOD REASONS?
SEAN: YEAH, LET'S GO WITH THAT. LOOK, DEACON HAS SHEILA LIVING
AT HIS PLACE. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT INSANITY
RIGHT THERE. HE'S TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT
THING AND TRYING TO BE A GOOD FATHER TO HOPE, BUT THEN THERE'S
THE SHEILA DEVIL. JERRY: SEAN, WE REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU COMING, WE LOVE IT WHEN EVERYONE ON YOUR SHOW
COMES ON OUR SHOW. WE REALLY MEAN THAT.
BUT DEACON AND SHEILA ARE CURRENTLY IN A LIVING SITUATION
IN AN APARTMENT SMALLER THAN AMANDA'S FIRST APARTMENT IN NEW
YORK CITY. WHAT IS GOING ON.
SEAN: HERE'S THE FUNNY THING. YOU CAN ONLY LIVE WITH SOMEBODY
IN A SHOE BOX FOR SO LONG BEFORE YOU EITHER KILL EACH OTHER OR
YOU WIND UP, YOU KNOW, IN THE SACK TOGETHER.
JERRY: OH, WHOA, WHOA. SHERYL: THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENS.
AMANDA: LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW DEACON NOW HAS BEEN STIRRING
THINGS UP ON "THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS."
AND IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE HE'S BEEN ON THAT SHOW.
SEAN: I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT. IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE DEACON
MADE HIS WAY TO GENOA CITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS
BUT THERE'S A WORM HOLE THAT EXISTS BETWEEN LOS ANGELES AND
GENOA CITY, WHICH IS WISCONSIN. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET FROM
LOS ANGELES TO GENOA CITY IS WALK FROM OUR STAGE RIGHT ACROSS
THE HALLWAY AND THEN YOU'RE THERE.
IT WAS SO MUCH FUN. MELODY'S HUSBAND, ED, IS OUR
SUPERVISING PROFESSOR AND I GET TO WORK WITH ED ALL THE TIME AND
IT WAS FUN TO RECONNECT WITH MELODY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.
SHE'S A TERRIFIC ACTRESS AND A TON OF FUN AND WE PICKED UP
WHERE WE LEFT OFF. NATALIE: WE LOVE NIKKI NEWMAN.
IN ADDITION TO "THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL," YOU HAVE YOUR SECOND
BOOK IN THE WAY OF THE COBRA SERIES AND YOU'RE STARRING IN
YOUR EMMY WINNING SERIES "STUDIO CITY" AS WELL AND OF COURSE
YOU'RE BACK WITH NETFLIX'S NUMBER ONE SHOW, COBRA KEY."
TAKE A LOOK. >> BY THE TIME I'M FINISHED
THEY'LL BE UNRECOGNIZABLE AND I THINK I KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO DO
IT. I THINK I'M GOING TO START BY
CUTTING OFF THEIR LEGS. YOU KNOW WHAT, ENOUGH CHITCHAT,
LET'S GET DOWN TO BRASS TAX. FOR MY TO DO MY VERY BEST I NEED
50%. YOU OWE ME THAT MUCH AFTER WHAT
HAPPENED LAST TIME. YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE FUN.
THOSE KIDS ARE IN FOR A BIG SURPRISE.
>> NO! NATALIE: WHAT'S IT LIKE BEING IN
THAT FRANCHISE AFTER MORE THAN 30 YEARS AS MIKE BARNES?
SEAN: THIS WAS A ROLE I DID 34 YEARS AGO AND NEVER IN A MILLION
YEARS DID I FIGURE I'D REPRIDES THIS UNTIL OBSERVE A KAI" CAME
OUT AND I SAID THEY'LL HAVE TO PUT ME IN IT SOONER OR LATER AND
WAS FANTASTIC, RECONNECTING WITH RALPH MACHIO AND BILLY AFTER
DECADE AND DECADES. NATALIE: YOU STILL HAVE THE
COBRA MOVES? SEAN: OH, YEAH.
JUST WATCH. AMANDA: ALL THIS SEASON "THE
TALK" WILL SHARE EXCLUSIVE CLIPS OF OUR FAVORITE DAY TIME DRAMAS,
SO IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER SNEAK PEEK OF THE WEEK.
♪ AMANDA: SEAN, YOU'VE BEEN KIND
ENOUGH TO BRING US MONDAY'S EPISODE OF "THE BOLD AND THE
BEAUTIFUL" WHICH FEATURES ONE OF GENOA'S FAVORITE RESIDENTS
VISITING FORRESTER CREATIONS. TAKE A LOOK.
>> ERIC, WITH YOU'RE A TRUE ARTIST, IT'S GORGEOUS.
SUMMER WILL BE A KNOCKOUT. THE CUT AND NECKLINE IS
STUNNING. >> WELL, THOSE ARE RIDGE'S IDEAS
BUT I DID THE LENGTH AND THE STITCHING.
>> OH, I LOVE THE STITCHING, TOO.
IT'S VERY INSPIRED. >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
I KNOW YOU'LL BE HEARING THE SAME THING FROM SUMMER AS WELL.
>> OH, IT'S GREAT. SO ARE YOU STAYING IN L.A. A FEW
DAYS OR WILL YOU HEAD BACK TO GENOA CITY RIGHT AWAY?
>> NO, I'M HEADING BACK. I HAVE ONE STOP I NEED TO MAKE
FIRST. NATALIE: UH-HO.
WHERE IS SHE GOING? SEAN: YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE IT
MIGHT LEAD, RIGHT? NATALIE: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
STOPPING BY. "THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL" IS
ON PARAMOUNT PLUS. SEAN KANAN, EVERYONE.
NATALIE: WHAT A WEEK WE HAD HERE AT "THE TALK."
SUCH A GREAT TIME. WE CANNOT WAIT TO WELCOME NEXT
WEEK'S GUESTS INCLUDING THE ALWAYS FUNNY BILLY GARDELL FROM
"BOB HEARTS ABISHOLA." WE HAVE HEARING HELGENBERGER
REPRIZING HER ROLE AS KATHERINE WILLOWS IN "CSI:VEGAS" AND
SANAA LATHAN FROM "ON THE COME UP."
YOU HAVE FANTASY FOOTBALL, WHO ARE YOU ROOTING FOR?
THE GOAT? UNDERWOOD UNITED?
OR VIVA? TUNE IN TO SEE WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE ON "THE TALK."
BYE, EVERYBODY. HAD A GREAT WEEKEND.