This is gonna be fun. It's gonna be competitive.
Thank you, Captain. Not of my ship.
-Let's go look at the house. -OK.
[David] I have to convince Scott to move.
So I don't think this is it.
This feels narrow.
-I love your flexibility, Scott. -[giggles]
Really impressive!
-What do you think? -I think it's fantastic.
I'm ready to move in.
[Page] And... I have to convince Deb to stay.
Very nice, right? Mm!
I'm gonna be a dream fulfiller right now.
-What? How? -But wh -- how?
This post, she's gotta go.
I don't think this is just decorative.
It's definitely here for a reason.
[Page] It's gonna cost like $80,000.
[both] Whoa.
-You said what? -[Deb] I love it.
It's a big day today.
-Whoa! Whoa! -Oh, oh!
-Oh, my gosh! Look at the tub! -[laughing] Yay!
Are you going to love it?
Or are you going to list it?
[theme music playing]
-Hi, I'm Scott. -And I'm Deb.
And we have a three-bedroom,
two and a half bath house in the suburbs,
and it's time for us to renovate and update.
Ah, I don't know if I'm game for that.
I think it's time to move on.
[Scott] We've been here, uh, 21 years.
We've had some great memories here.
It's where we've -- we've raised our family.
We've got two kids.
And they've grown up here, gone to school around here,
are young adults now and -- and finishing school
and coming back home and staying with us.
I feel we've grown out of this home.
This is our entryway.
I'll give it to you, it's a little tight coming in.
-But -- -A little?
We just need to get into the house.
It doesn't have to be a ballroom.
It's fine, stop. Stop talking.
The kitchen. [sighs]
Wow. Almost non-functional.
Like, the door doesn't -- doesn't even close properly.
Everything is everywhere and it's chaotic.
[Deb] And then when you layer
our young adult children into the mix,
it gets pretty crowded, pretty quickly.
Oops, sorry.
Just watch your back here -- OK, watch.
I think it just needs a little bit of an update,
and I think it'll be fine.
The ensuite, that's another space that needs to be updated.
-The shower is so small. -[chuckling] Yeah.
[sighs] You can barely fit in there.
The shower is like
I'm being sucked into a sausage can
in order to have a shower.
We've got enough space here.
Page can make it, you know,
we can get a little bit of a bigger shower,
something that's a little bit more comfortable
for me and for you.
Oh, but I'd like to see what David can do.
I'm ready to list it.
We've had so many memories here.
This is the place that we're gonna stay.
[Page] So it's a -- it's a busy street.
[David] Holy moly, is it busy.
[Page] Look at it, it's a really heavy school zone, too.
[David] Right, which means you've got not only the traffic,
you've got kids during recess.
-[Page scoffs and laughs] -[David] Seriously, come on!
-This is setting me up already... -[David] It is.
...for a bigger challenge.
I mean, Deb and Scott have been in this house over 20...
-[Page]...21 years? -[David] 21 years, yep.
[Page] Both of their children been raised in this house,
went off to university.
So now four adults in the family home.
I'm excited to see
how I can redesign their floor plan
to make them all fit comfortably.
It's 20 years, time for a move.
[Page] Oh, please! It's 20 years,
time for stay for another 20 years.
-Thank you, kind sir -- oh! -[David] After you.
OK...
[David] You wanna get rid of this post.
You walk right into it as you come into the house!
I love when you tell me my job.
[David] I'm not telling you your job.
I'm telling you what I would do if it was me.
Well, you know, this is the thing.
You're a very experienced realtor.
You know what your buyers want.
I personally would hate to have my office up front,
where people can walk in
and this is the first thing they see.
[Page] Let's see. We're, like, creeping.
Oh, look at it!
It gets a little bit more open in here.
[David] It's a good amount of space.
It's a little on the awkward side.
This is awkward. So your floor plan is --
here is your island,
but you're looking at a corner of your wall.
[David] Yeah, no, it's -- it's not a great layout.
[Page] There's not even ample storage.
But it's not tiny either.
You've got a decent-sized table in here.
You've got a good family room.
[Page] We have a lot of oversized furniture.
But all of this can be changed.
You know what I look for, I look for space.
And that's what I have right now.
[David] This main area is not the big problem.
This is workable for you.
Oh, thank you, Captain.
-[laughs] -Not of my ship.
-Let's go to the basement. -All right.
I think the door's over here. [laughs]
Oh, yeah, here it is. Basement time!
OK. Let's see!
OK, there's a lot going on in here.
[David] There's a lot! I mean, you've got the TV room,
you've got a workout room.
There's some good and bad down here.
[Page] I don't see any bad.
What I see is very well-thought-out spaces
for what's down here,
and I just have to, kind of, like, jigsaw it a bit better.
[David] I do see the pool,
so let's go have a closer look at that.
-[water running] -[upbeat music playing]
-Oh, yeah. -[Page] Oh, yes.
Well, I mean, you have to match this.
[David] I don't have to match this.
-You do. -I only have to match this
if they say they want a pool.
There's mist coming down on my hair,
-I'm going back inside. -[both laugh]
[Page] I have to protect the hair at all costs.
-[David] Me too. -[Page laughs]
[David] It's a little nuts.
[Page] Let's go to the second floor.
All right. Up the stairs we go.
[David] Gotta love this carpet.
Carpet can come off. That's easy.
Oh! Look at this!
Oh, my God.
-[Page] Come in, come in! -[David] Second floor laundry.
[Page] Second floor laundry.
This is what you're always pointing out that I never have.
-I know, I know. -And look at me, finally getting it.
I mean, you're gonna have to match this.
There's a lot of things you have to match,
but this right here... [clicks tongue]
[David] So three bedrooms up here.
[Page] There's a hall bath.
[David] Yeah, dated.
[Page] Oh, this is nice.
Look at how big this primary is.
Look at this. They have a whole bench in here.
This is nice.
[David] Well, it's not terrible.
-[Page] This is good. -[David] It's not terrible.
-It's a great size. -Yeah, OK.
Let's look at the ensuite. Double vanities.
They have space for a separate tub.
Oh, this is a small corner shower.
I think if they have the money,
you can take care of the things that need to be fixed.
I think the problem is gonna be
is the fact that two adults, at some point,
are both gonna be living here
and need separate lives, sort of,
need independence and privacy. -Mm-hmm.
And that's gonna be real hard to deliver here.
I think it's gonna be really hard for you to find here.
Ah.
Finding a house for a family of four is one thing.
Finding a house for a family of four adults,
two of which aren't even involved in the process,
that's a whole other story.
Well, what a task I have before me.
I mean, I have to figure out a design plan that's going
to allow four adults to live separately, yet together.
We still haven't met them.
There's still information to gain,
which could lean this in my favor...or hers.
One thing I know about me is that I rise to every occasion,
so bring it on.
[uplifting music playing]
I really enjoyed walking through your house.
Yep, yep.
This is a perfect home for a family of two kids.
However, the dynamic is changing, correct?
-Yeah, absolutely. -[David] All of a sudden,
everybody wants their independence,
everybody wants some privacy.
Which is what's so great about your home.
You have the square footage there.
You have the bedrooms there.
He's not going to agree with me.
You just need help of Miss Page Turner right here
to reimagine that space so that it can work for four adults.
Yes, we love that idea. I love that idea.
-Thank you, Scott, yes. -[Scott chuckles]
I do think there's lots we can do with it.
To your gorgeous backyard and the pool,
which I have a question about this pool --
is that something that you would like to have?
It's something that we've talked about.
I don't think it's a deal breaker for us,
if we were to go. You know, it's -- it is nice.
-We do use it. -OK.
But with the kids getting older, it's a little bit less now, so.
OK, that's not the answer I wanted.
-[all laugh] -Sorry.
I'm really glad you asked him, Page.
We're on the same team right here.
[David] I'm really glad you asked.
I've done an evaluation on your home,
and the current value is $950,000.
-OK, yeah. -Mm-hmm.
[David] All right, now, I know that you wanna stay,
so I'm gonna try and get a list out of you
to get you out of there.
What is that list?
If you were to get me out of there, David,
I would definitely need...
open-concept main floor.
We like having, kind of, everybody connected.
Uh, definitely need a nice kitchen.
We definitely need three bedrooms,
three bathrooms, one being an ensuite,
separate apartment for our adult kids to --
to have, kind of, their own zone as well.
Right. Do you have any location?
We are kind of open. We're flexible.
-Awesome, awesome. -[Scott] Yeah.
That helps a lot.
What is the budget for the new house?
Budget for the new house would be $1,100,000.
[David] OK.
All right, listen, I'm thrilled.
-[Page] So Deb... -Yes.
...I know you have a list of things
that you're gonna require to stay,
so what does that list consist of?
Yes, I do.
Number one, the kitchen needs a major overhaul.
There is not enough storage in the kitchen.
We need to do something to update the main floor.
The office is a complete eyesore.
Update the primary ensuite bathroom.
I would love to see a larger shower space,
create a basement apartment,
and I would love you to update the laundry room.
With this renovation, because we are talking
about three levels,
what is my budget?
Your budget will be $185,000.
OK.
-I think I can smile with that. -OK.
That makes me feel good. -Sounds good.
I'm gonna do everything I can to get Deb to stay, Scott.
You have a lot of work to do.
-Yep, we can do it. -I do.
I do, but I'm built for it.
[David] Hey, listen, with that budget,
in that proximity, well, there's a moving coming.
I can see it and I can feel it. It's a list it.
I get excited thinking about going to see new places.
I think that being excited and satisfied
are two different things, so we'll find out.
We'll see how it all ends.
This is gonna be fun. It's gonna be competitive.
To the best woman and may she win.
[uplifting music playing]
-[Page] I know, right? -It's a little weird.
Listen, you walk in,
the first thing you see is this post,
and then you see an office. -Yeah.
So that's why I wanna get rid of this.
So now we have an open entrance
instead of just this little cubbyhole.
I don't think this is just decorative.
It's definitely here for a reason.
I think it's structurally holding up something.
But it could be done.
Well, anything can be done, but, you know...
-[Page] It will cost. -...it's just how much money we wanna spend on it.
-I know, come in here. -Oh, look at this island.
Can you imagine this was the island
that the builder said, "This is the perfect spot,
I can look at this nice corner wall right here."
So I want to give them a new island with seating,
a prep sink, and a dishwasher.
We're going to relocate the fridge
and extend the countertops
to create additional working space and storage.
We'll add cabinet doors here and steal space from the office
to build a walk-in pantry.
And with the post gone, we'll build a new wall
and door to enclose the office
and create better flow in the entryway.
-[Matt] Oh, very nice. -Very nice, right?
-Yeah, that's cool. -Mmm! [laughs]
Now the living room, all new flooring.
They don't need more space but they need a new fireplace
and some built-ins. -[Matt] OK.
-All right, let's go upstairs. -What are we doing upstairs?
[Page] Ah, my friend. Come and see.
-OK, so up here... -Mm-hmm?
...won't be too much.
They have a walk-in laundry room.
They have new appliances coming.
So we're going to completely update this to match
their new washer and dryer. -[Matt] OK.
But look at this primary.
Oh, I'm so excited in this space.
So this wall, I'm gonna build
them a new custom wardrobe closet.
-OK. -Because...
their current walk-in closet has been working for them,
but I need to steal some space for the ensuite.
[Matt] OK.
-Ooh. -[Page] Right?
Look at this, poor Scott.
I mean, he's probably -- he's a big guy.
-I'm not even a big guy and that's too small. -I mean, right.
I mean, this is claustrophobic.
This is really bad.
So of course, this is out of here.
We're gonna move this wall and relocate the toilet
to give them a nice big shower.
We'll put in a stand-alone tub and a new vanity.
Now we get to travel to the basement.
-Basement as well? -Yes.
-Doing all three floors. -All three floors.
I hope you got the budget for it.
I have the budget. Don't you worry about that.
Matt, look at this basement.
Oh, this is beautiful.
Oh, I'm so excited down here.
[Matt] This is good with the pool and everything.
This is done. What are we doing?
[Page] They have two children that are adults.
-Right. -One is still at college.
The other one has come home.
So what we need to do is create
that separate but together living experience,
which would require having a full legal apartment.
So we need to put a kitchenette and a full bathroom.
-Like, look at the mechanical room. -Mm-hmm.
I feel like we can put a full bathroom in here.
We're going to use this utility room,
and we'll give them a toilet, vanity, and a stand-up shower.
And I want to put in a pocket door
and run the kitchenette along this wall.
I agree, it's a great spot for a bathroom.
My only concern is the electrical panel.
If you wanna put a bathroom here,
we're gonna have to move that,
which is not a small task.
-OK, but it's a task. -Yeah.
-It can be done. -Can be done.
[Page] This has to be a one-bedroom apartment
that stands by itself, and it will be amazing.
What kind of budget do we have for this job?
$185,000.
Which I'm happy about.
I mean, I think that's a really good budget.
It is a good budget. My concern comes from,
you know, making this into a legal basement.
I just did a job, similar scope,
and it really took a lot of money to, you know,
get the fireproofing
and all the things needed for that legal apartment.
On top of the fact that we have to attempt
to move that electrical panel,
we have to trench in the concrete, find drainage.
I'm gonna eat up probably $80,000 just in this basement
trying to get this thing to legal.
I don't have $80,000 in that budget to give you.
I mean, I only allocated $40,000 for this.
[upbeat music playing]
All right, so we are about 15 minutes
from Debbie and Scott's house.
It just came on the market yesterday,
and it's well below their budget.
So it's got four bedrooms, it's got four bathrooms.
It's got a nice open-concept main floor.
In the basement,
a fully finished two-bedroom apartment,
which is perfect for their kids.
Let's go have a look.
Good morning. What'd you think so far?
-[Deb] I love the color. -Yeah?
[Scott] First impression's good, yeah.
[David] Let's go have a look.
After you.
[Deb] Thank you, ooh!
[David] I know one of the things you talk about
is your front entryway.
-Yes. -Right? It feels tight.
You've got that kind of wall that comes in weirdly.
[Scott] Yeah, yeah.
How does this feel when you walk in?
Definitely more space to kind of, land,
when you're at the door -Yes.
or when people are leaving, yeah.
Yep, so good start so far?
-Good start. -Yeah, good start.
Long way to go.
Long way. Let's go.
So this is access to your basement.
You've got your formal dining. Come through here.
You've got your eat-in kitchen, family room combination.
[Deb] I love the windows. Lots of light.
[Scott] Like, it's open. It's bright.
[Deb] When I think about our family, it's a little small.
Where would we put everybody?
[David] Well, the dining room.
-[Deb] Right. -For big events.
This is a breakfast area. -Right.
I think I'd like... a bit wider.
Yeah.
And I think I still enjoy the island...
-For seating. -...for seating.
And are all these cupboards functional?
Like...
[David] Yeah, there's no fake ones.
Oh, wow, they go far back.
[David] Yes, that's good. Lots of storage.
We've got access to the backyard.
Now, obviously no pool,
but you did say pool was not mandatory.
-[Deb] No. -[Scott] A pool is not a deal breaker,
but I guess we're going from a fully landscaped backyard
to a blank canvas,
I see dollar signs, right? -Right.
In getting that into something that we could actually
use and enjoy, um...
There will be some dollar signs
at the end of this conversation, I guarantee you that.
All right, so we're gonna head to the second floor.
[David] All right, so up here you have four bedrooms,
two bathrooms.
[Deb] Ooh, second floor laundry.
[David] And second floor laundry.
[Deb] Wow.
[David] Let's go see the primary.
[Deb and Scott] OK.
[David] How do you feel about this?
[Deb] Wow, that's...big.
Yes, I love it.
[David] The bedroom itself. Good-sized bedroom.
[Scott] It's a good space. We've got room
for furniture, whatever we might need.
It's good windows, but nothing wowing me about it.
[David] And your ensuite.
[Scott] Um, David, this feels narrow.
-[Deb laughs] -OK, I'm a big guy,
but this still just feels awkward coming in here.
[David] Hey, but look at the shower.
You can fit in that shower, no problem.
[Deb] How do these doors work?
-Oh, there we go. -Yeah, shower's...
Yeah, shower's OK, it's bigger --
bigger than our current one.
[Deb] I do like the tub.
I do take baths, but it looks really small.
-It's too short. -Tiny.
All right, last spot, hitting the basement.
-OK. -OK.
[David] Basically, what you have here
is a two-bedroom apartment.
You got a bathroom with a kitchen.
Does basically give you everything you need,
even if both kids are here.
Yeah, I don't like it.
-[David] No? -No.
It's really chopped up and it's low.
-It feels confining. -OK.
[Scott] Just feels -- feels tight.
-I get it, all right. -Do not want it.
How do you feel about this house overall?
-I -- I just -- I don't think this is it. -[David] OK.
[Deb] I would agree, uh, in that.
It's very chopped up.
The walls, the half wall, I like it more open.
What do you think this house is listed at?
I'm thinking maybe around $925,000.
-What do you think? -I think around $850,000?
This house is listed at $990,000,
which is $110,000 under your current budget.
I don't think this is gonna get us out of our house.
-[Deb] I wanna see more. -[David] Yeah.
I know it's out there.
[David] So do I, so do I.
Push us out of our comfort zone a little bit.
I can do that.
[upbeat music playing]
Well, let's talk about this kitchen, you guys.
Oh, my gosh. Let's start with this island.
-[Scott] It's a beast. -[laughs] It's a beast.
You know what we're gonna do with this beast?
Get her out of this kitchen.
-[Deb] Great. -So this goes.
-I'll give you a new one. -OK.
[Page] It'll be larger.
I wanna take this refrigerator, move it over here.
-OK. -Because...
what you don't have in this kitchen is
a walk-in pantry.
-[Deb] Right. -That's been a dream of yours.
-It is a dream of mine. -[gasps] It is?
It is.
Oh, I'm gonna be a dream fulfiller right now.
-What? How? -But how?
OK. So right here,
imagine these are cabinet doors right here.
-OK? -Yes.
They're going to open up,
and you're going to walk in...
this way.
So I'm going to steal part of your office,
bring it back about three feet,
and this becomes your pantry.
-Sounds pretty impressive. -Amazing.
I told you Page would have the ideas.
OK, watch this.
So you come out of your front door,
you're met with this post,
you're met with all of your business
out in the open in the office.
-Yes. -Right.
So I'm gonna get rid of this post,
and we're going to steal a little more space
from the office,
square up this wall, and add a door.
So when you walk in, this is gone,
and your eye line goes here, instead of here.
[Deb] Two things I'm loving about this --
the removal of this post...
-[Page] Mm-hmm. -...and the pantry.
-Nice. -It is my dream.
-Say that again, you're loving it? -I'm loving it.
[gasps] You're gonna tell David that, too.
-We'll see. -[Page laughs]
-So we feel good so far, then? -Yeah, yeah.
OK, let's go down to the basement.
We have a few things to talk about down there.
-[Scott] OK. -[Deb] OK.
[Page] See what's going on.
My plan was to give you a kitchenette, a living room,
a full bathroom with a shower, a toilet, and a vanity,
and really turn this whole basement
into a one-bedroom apartment.
-[Deb] OK. -Amazing.
But the hiccup is that it comes with a high price tag.
It's going to cost a lot of money
and a lot from the budget that you've given me,
like $80,000.
[Scott and Deb] Whoa.
Matt just recently did a legal one-bedroom apartment
in the area,
and so when we were going through the numbers,
he was like, "it's gonna cost about $80,000 to do it in here."
That's like half our budget.
We're not looking to rent it out,
we're just looking for our own kids.
I think not having the legal apartment
is something we're OK with.
[Page] OK, well, good. That definitely helps.
My other challenge is for us to go into the mechanical room
where I want to put your full shower bath,
it comes with a high price tag.
In order to give you a shower bath,
I'll have to move this electric panel,
and it's gonna cost an extra $12,000,
above the $40,000 I budgeted,
and that's because it can't be near any water lines.
OK, that's not within our budget
to do that, though, Page.
[Page] I know.
I can pull back a little bit and give you a powder bath
instead of a full bath.
No shower?
-[Page] With no shower. -Oh.
Yeah, just a vanity and a toilet.
I don't think that's really gonna cut it.
I mean, that's... we want to have a full bath,
we wanna have, kind of, that self-contained space.
I mean, bathroom is, you know, a key piece of that.
So in thinking about all of this,
you have to have your ensuite in your primary bedroom.
You have to have your new kitchen without a doubt.
So I was thinking the one place
that could probably come off the list
would be your laundry room.
You don't have to do that right now.
If we do that, we get our full bathroom down here
with the shower and everything?
Yes, that trade-off could be
your full shower bath down here.
-I like that idea better. -But this is --
I think this would be a bigger priority for us.
For sure. This is the priority.
Because it only increases the value of the home
and when we put it on the market...
somebody's gonna love it.
[Page] Now that we have our plan in place,
we can get started on the demo.
Scott and Deb have always maintained
they didn't need to be in their neighborhood,
they even went so far as to say
"Take us out of our comfort zone."
I've taken them out of the comfort zone,
'cause this place right now
is about 30 minutes from their house,
downtown city living that they don't have.
The house itself, it's got three bedrooms,
two bathrooms on the upper level,
plus you've got an incredible open-concept main floor.
Downstairs is a completely self-contained apartment
with a separate entrance.
Let's see how they feel about it.
-Good morning. -[Scott and Deb] Good morning.
[David] So how are we feeling about, uh, location?
Location's a little different for us.
A little out of your comfort zone.
[Scott] A little bit out of the comfort zone, for sure.
-Let's go look at the house. -OK.
-[David] Go ahead. -[Scott and Deb] Thank you.
[Deb] Oh!
[David] Completely open concept.
[Scott] Whoa, yeah. Wide open.
[David] And you got your fireplace.
[Deb] I do love that.
[David] And you've got your main floor powder room.
Two-piece, exactly what you need.
And look at this kitchen.
Great little breakfast area here,
huge window, so lots of natural light coming in,
huge peninsula... -[Deb] Whoa.
...lots of storage.
-What do you think? -[Deb] I love it.
It's beautiful. I love this huge island.
I like how you have some seating.
-[David] Yeah. -Great space to work.
You could have two people in there easily.
It seems to me like it's a little bit tighter
than our kitchen would be.
I disagree.
I'm the one that's always cooking anyway, so...
-[laughing] -I will defer to you on that.
I love your flexibility, Scott.
-That really something. -[Scott stutters]
This is just a start, David. Just a start.
[David] The backyard.
[Deb] Beautiful, with the trees. Very quiet.
You can't see anybody behind you.
-Yeah. -It's OK, it's different --
different vibe, obviously, from our house.
We've got the pool.
Um, we said the pool wasn't a deal breaker.
Is it still a not a deal breaker, Scott?
Are you, sort of, like, having second thoughts about that one?
I'm not having second thoughts.
I'm trying to have an open mind, David,
but I -- I still feel it's a big change
from what we -- what we have right now.
OK. Second floor.
-All right. -OK. thanks.
[Scott] Stairs are nice.
-[Deb] The colors -- -Yeah, beautifully finished.
[Deb] The color brightens it right up.
-[David] Yep. -[Deb] It's nice and light.
[David] Three bedrooms and two bathrooms up here.
-[Scott] OK. -[David] Plus...
-[Deb] Yay! -[David] Second floor laundry.
-Nicely done -- stackables. -[Deb] Love it!
We're definitely giving up something to go to this.
[David] Primary bedroom.
Look at this wall-to-wall windows.
It's gorgeous.
[David] I mean, look at the view you've got from your bedroom,
and you've got a beautiful ensuite.
-[Deb] Sure. -[David] Double sinks, huge shower.
-[Deb] Wow. -[Scott] Nice big shower,
which I definitely appreciate.
There's -- there's no tub for you, Deb.
Well, there is no tub in there, no.
But, like, next door is a beautiful bathroom
with a tub in it. -[Deb] Love it.
-[David] Let's head down to the lower level. -[Deb] OK.
Which is a completely self-contained apartment.
So we have to go outside to get to it.
Ooh! That really does solve that problem
of his friends and our... -[David] Yeah!
...our kids' friends traipsing through the main building.
But re -- but it doesn't, like then,
it doesn't really feel like a family home at that point.
Like if you have to go out, like if I need --
I'm sure there's gonna be other things in the basement,
we haven't seen it yet, but then I --
literally have to go outside to go into my own basement?
That just seems a little...
If you want, then you put a door through here.
You put a doorway and the landing is right there.
That's all it is.
It's punching a hole through there.
-[Scott] We'll see. -Wait ’til you see.
[Scott] We'll see.
[instrumental music playing]
OK, so...
Yeah, the doorway would just come through here,
if you wanted to.
-[Deb] OK. -[Scott] OK, yeah.
[David] So fully self-contained.
You've got your bedroom.
It doesn't quite feel like a basement,
'cause you've got some good, natural light coming in.
Beautiful bathroom.
Great family room area.
Good connection, good flow into the kitchen.
[Scott] It's a surprising kitchen for a basement, that's for sure.
Overall, how do you feel about this?
[scoffs] Like, I think the house is well done,
I just don't think it's well done for me.
OK, what do you think?
I actually love it.
It's not a bad thing having that separation
from the main building to the lower floor.
What do you think this house is listed at?
I feel like this is, like, top end
or slightly over our budget.
I'd say about $1,100,000.
-What do you think? -$880,000.
This house is listed at $1,150,000.
-So slightly over budget. -It is.
But what it sounds like is, for one of you,
it's just a little too far out of their comfort zone.
I would say it's definitely outside of my comfort range.
I'm not loving it.
Sometimes you don't know what you don't want
until you see something you don't want.
And that is exactly where Scott has found himself.
-[Deb] Whoa! Yeah! -[Scott] Wow.
[Scott] It looks a little different.
[Page] Little different, right?
I wanted you guys to come by
because we have to talk about this post.
[Matt] In order to get rid of that post,
we are gonna require a beam that's, you know,
stretching from the existing wall structure here
all the way to the outside wall foundation,
which is kind of unfortunate. We thought we'd be able
to just maybe sister up some joists going this way
or, you know, find an easier way to get it done.
-So how much would that cost? -I'm just gonna jump to it.
It's gonna cost $20,000.
Wow.
That's a lot of money, Page.
I budgeted $10,000, but it's going to cost double
to get rid of this post.
We don't have another $10,000 to throw in towards this.
So what if we took the money you had in the budget for that
and we're able to put that back into the laundry?
OK -- well, we can work on
how we can dress this... [laughs]
...Achilles heel post up and leave it there,
and then just move forward with the plan we originally had
with the upstairs laundry room.
-It's back on. -OK, works for us.
Then I will, you know, put my noodle to it
and figure out what I can do with this post,
and just leave it here.
-We have faith in you. -Thank you.
We'll see.
[upbeat music playing]
[Page] Matt and the team are full steam ahead,
running electrical throughout
and waterproofing the new shower.
I've come up with a solution to hide the unsightly post
by incorporating it into a curved wall.
And I just hope it's enough to get Deb to love it.
-[Page] Matt! -[Matt] What's this?
[Page] What is this? Is that water?
[Matt] It looks like it is, yeah.
I think it's just a bad valve.
Not a huge concern, but what is a bigger concern
is there is no floor drain in this laundry room.
[Page] There has to be a floor drain.
-How you're gonna wash -- -There is not a floor drain.
And there should be for a second floor laundry room.
-OK? -OK.
Always something. Always something.
[grunts]
[Page] We've got to keep the process moving.
New kitchen island and cabinets are installed,
and the basement kitchenette is quickly coming together.
And I'm loving the wardrobe we're doing
in Deb and Scott's bedroom.
[drill whirring]
Matt and I were going upstairs to work in your laundry room,
and there was water on the floor.
It was just some water that was left in some pipes
after we moved everything out.
But Matt was like, "Well, guess what, Page?
There's no drain in here."
So that's where the water was coming from a couple weeks ago.
[Scott] Yeah, so we had water coming down there
and then trickling down through here.
[Page] And this will keep happening
if we don't add a drain.
But I'm actually coming with good news.
I'm not here to ask you guys for money this time.
-OK. -Goodness.
[Page] The electrician in the downstairs-basement bathroom
does not have to move the electrical panel after all.
All he has to move is your alarm panel
and a couple of outlets.
-So... -[Deb] OK. That's amazing.
You know, I've got money left to cover the floor drain.
And that is good news. You're right.
-It is good news! -Yeah!
According to my checklist right here,
I think I'm giving them everything they want.
Good luck, David.
[Page] We're getting down to the wire on Deb and Scott's
three-floor renovation.
If I'm going to convince Deb to stay,
I need to make sure every detail is perfect.
This next house delivers everything they need.
I mean, four bedrooms on the upper level, two bathrooms,
open-concept main floor,
a huge backyard overlooking a great pool.
Downstairs, is the perfect setup
for whatever happens in their lives.
Great price, too.
-[David] Come on in. -Good morning.
[David] Old Man Winter is here.
-[Scott] Good morning. -[laughing]
-[Scott] Thank you. -[David] Isn't it, though?
Oh, my gosh!
Let's get rid of those coats.
-Thank you. -You're welcome.
So one of the things you guys talk about
is your front entryway, and how, kind of, tight it is.
Well, this gives you a little more space,
some nice high ceilings.
Yep, I like this landing spot.
-[Deb] Perfect. -[David] Good?
-[Deb] Great size. -This way, a great sitting area.
-What do you think? -[Deb] It's beautiful.
I love the size. The light is amazing.
-We're good, Scott? -So far, so good.
-I got the thumbs up. -Yes.
-So far, so good. -Let's keep going.
[Deb] Oh, wow.
[David] Here you have your eat-in kitchen,
family room combination.
[Deb] I think it's great.
You can be here, you can be there,
and everybody could see each other.
[David] You've got a heated pool.
[Scott] The fact that it has a pool,
I said that wouldn't be a deal breaker,
but I must admit, if we can still have that,
that is a huge selling point of this house.
Entrance to your basement,
and here you have your main-floor powder room.
I like how it's, kind of, tucked away, right?
-[David] Absolutely. -Great.
Now, here you have extra storage,
and you've got your mudroom, laundry room combination.
[Scott] The laundry room is nice.
It's not on the second floor, which ours is,
and we're kind of used to that for 20 years.
I don't mind the laundry there.
Basement time.
OK.
So what you have down here is basically
a fully self-contained... apartment.
I mean, it's got a great bedroom with an ensuite.
[Scott] An ensuite? Wow.
And then you have a three-piece down here.
So you've got two bathrooms down here,
which is kind of nice. -[Scott laughs] OK!
-[Deb] Sweet! -[Scott] Again, I will admit -- surprised.
Like, did not expect another three-piece bath down here.
-[David] No. -[Scott and Deb] Wow.
Probably didn't expect this kitchen either.
[Scott laughs]
This is, like...
this is comparable to what's upstairs.
-Like, this is... -Yeah.
[laughing] ...really impressive.
For your kids, this would be phenomenal.
-They would love it. -[Scott] Yeah.
-I'd live down here. -Yeah.
[David] And then you've got this great walkout to the pool.
Ups the game a little bit here, too, so it is nice.
[David] So you've got a nice little living area
with the fireplace.
[Scott] It's super cozy down here.
-It is really cozy. -Like, it's really nice.
[David] Let's go see the second floor.
[Scott] But wait, there's more.
[David] Oh, there's a lot more.
OK.
On the second floor, we have four bedrooms,
two bathrooms.
You've got a great primary suite, spacious.
Room for a little sitting area.
[Scott] It's a great size. I love that.
-[David] Beautiful windows. -[Deb] I do like the windows.
It brings in a lot of natural light.
Then you've got the ensuite.... spacious.
[Scott] Single vanity, but there's lots of counter space.
-[Deb] Lots of space. -[David] Tons of counter space,
lots of storage.
[Scott] I've got to acknowledge, it is --
it looks -- it looks good.
Scott, how do you feel about this four-bedroom house?
It checks a lot of boxes.
It does, like, it's the --
the separate unit downstairs is beyond what my expectations
would've been with -- with the --
with the -- the kitchen, two bathrooms.
I can see it, it could work for us.
I do see that it could work for us.
-What do you think? -I think it's fantastic.
I'm ready to move in.
Well, what do you think this house is listed at, Scott?
I think it's about $1,100,000?
-[Deb] Hmm. -[David] What do you think?
-$900,000. -[David laughs]
-Listen, I wish it was $900,000. -[Deb] Yeah.
Um, but it's listed at $1,080,000.
So just under your budget.
You've, you know, had a couple swings and misses,
but I think you definitely made contact on this one.
This is a great property.
We still need to see what Page has done with our house.
I'm still excited to see that.
And then we'll have a tough decision to make.
[uplifting music playing]
[Page] Ooh! Get you guys inside!
-Hey, Deb! -Hi, Page!
Oh, my gosh, I know. It's so cold.
-[Deb] Oh, thank you! Hello! -Come in! Come in.
-Hi. -Hey, Scott!
-Thank you. -It's a big day today.
-It's an exciting day. -Very big.
[Page] Do you like your curved wall coming in?
[Scott] It looks great.
[Page] It takes away that chunky eyesore.
-Remember, you could see right into your office. -[Deb] Yes.
-[Scott] Yeah. -There was a big column there.
I wanted to do a few things differently,
but for cost reasons, we decided to hide it inside this wall,
which also really opens up your entryway.
-We're gonna start with your office, OK? -Perfect.
So come on in.
-[Deb] Wow. -[Scott] Sweet.
I think this totally works.
I know it's a bit smaller, but a little bit more private.
And Deb's like, "Great, I wanna see the rest of the house, OK?
Good office, let's keep going."
-Good start, great start. -[Page] OK.
[Page] So let's go into your new living room.
-OK. -Oh, wow.
[Deb] It is gorgeous.
[Scott] The fireplace came out so nice.
That's very cool. I love the stone.
Look at the great storage you have.
-[Scott] Yeah. -Beautiful shelves.
You have cabinets down here.
-[Page] Do you love it in here? -I love it.
-Wonderful! -[Scott] Great.
Well, should we go into this big surprise?
-[Deb] Yes! -I know -- Deb's like,
"OK, I don't want to see the living room."
Look it, welcome to your new kitchen.
Come on in, come on. Let's go check it out.
-[Scott] Oh, wow. -[Deb] Look at it.
[Page laughs]
[Scott] It's great.
-[Deb] This is... -Come on in!
-[Scott] Love it. -...stunning.
And then with your island, it was so awkward.
So we turned it the way that it should be.
And then I was able to give you a rounded edge with the stone.
Your cabinetry all around, it's custom.
-I mean, look at this. -[Deb] Ah, look at this.
-[Page] Just fill it up. -That's fantastic.
[Page] Put whatever you want in it,
put her right back in.
-Boom -- [laughs] -Love it.
-[Page] Yay! -It's so good.
Oh, I love those words coming from you already.
Love it.
This, though, is the crown jewel of the kitchen.
-Come on. -[Scott giggles]
This is the reason why I took away
so much square footage in your office.
Welcome to your new walk-in pantry.
[Deb] Oh, man!
-[Scott] That's cool. -[Deb] That is incredible.
Oh, look at the backsplash!
[Page laughs]
[Scott] Oh, my gosh. So much in here.
-[Deb] Gorgeous. -[Page laughs]
-Look at the storage. -[Scott] That's amazing.
Very cool. You got your pantry.
-[Page] Yay! -[Deb] It is stunning.
Let's go upstairs. We have so much more to see.
-Are we happy so far? -Oh, my gosh, yes!
-[Page] OK, good. -So happy.
I don't know Scott,
you're usually a little bit more talkative.
-[Deb laughs] -[Scott] It's just -- taking it all in.
-[Page] OK. -I'm a little bit speechless, Page.
[Page] OK, good. Well, let’s go upstairs
[Scott giggles] OK.
[Page] Let's go check out your dream laundry room.
Here she is.
Oh, wow.
-[Scott] Wow. -[Deb] This is beautiful.
Even the laundry room has backsplash.
-[Page] Yes, it does, of course. -[Deb] Oh, I love it!
[Deb] And it has a drain!
-[Page laughing] Yes. -Yay!
-[Scott] Yes! -No more flooding.
No more.
[Page] We have a drum roll right now.
I wanna get to your primary.
-OK? -[Deb] OK.
-Your new... -Oh, my goodness.
-This is what I wanted to hear. -This is gorgeous!
So this was really a refresh.
[Scott] It's the same space, but it totally looks different.
-Yes. -Yeah, it's awesome.
-Oh, my gosh. -Gorgeous.
-Scott sees it. -[Deb] Oh!
-Your new wardrobe closet. -[Deb] Wow.
I had to give you additional closet space
because I borrowed some of the space --
I'm borrowing space all over this house, aren't I?
-Yes. -I borrowed space
from your original walk-in closet.
-Yes. -So I was like, OK.
That means I have to give you more closet space.
And for a primary, you needed more anyway.
And it just kind of fades into the wall.
[Page] And it's a built-in, so there's added value.
Listen, this is what I wanted to get to.
This is the cherry on top, the creme de la creme.
I'm so excited. Scott, this is for you.
-You endured a lot of years in your old bathroom. -Oh my gosh.
[uplifting music playing]
-[Scott laughs] -[Deb] Look at that tub.
Oh, my gosh! Look at the --
[Page] Go in. I want you to go in.
[Scott] That is fantastic.
This is how you should be showering, my friend.
-[Scott] Look at this thing. -[Deb] We can both go in.
Well then, go, please!
-I'll stay out. -[Scott] Wow.
Oh, my gosh. Page, this is amazing.
-[Deb] It is stunning. -[Scott] Oh, my gosh.
[Deb] Can't even really remember what it looked like,
but I do remember the tub. -[Scott] Didn't look like this.
-No, no, no, no. -[Page laughs]
I remember that. Great job, Page.
Well, we have our basement.
[gasps] I forgot about that.
-[Page laughs] -There's more.
[Page] Oh, boy, is there more.
More surprises down there.
-Oh, my gosh. -All right.
I know you don't wanna leave that shower though, Scott.
-Yeah! -[Page laughs]
Oh, wow!
Whoa! Whoa! Oh, my goodness!
[Page] An updated, refreshed basement.
I added a kitchenette.
And the cabinets look amazing.
-I wanted to give you a bedroom. -[Deb] Yes!
[Page] And instead of putting up a wall,
I decided to stage with this bookcase.
So we have a bed in here.
This was your old gym area.
[Scott] Cool little location.
And the way you did that,
the way it's flexible, I love that, yeah.
[Page] To use the restroom, they would have to go
to the powder room on the main floor
or to shower all the way upstairs.
-[Deb] Mm-hmm. -[Page sighs]
Well, we couldn't let that continue, so...
Now...
Come on in.
-Oh, wow. -Oh, wow.
-[Scott] Oh, cool. -[Deb] Look at that.
[Page laughs]
A washroom!
[Scott] Great little vanity.
Yeah, like, everything's down here.
-[Page] Yeah. -[Scott] That's amazing.
These are good words.
OK, so you guys are feeling good?
-Oh, yes -- overwhelmed. -Feeling great.
-Overwhelmed. -It's so incredible.
[Scott] You've definitely checked a lot of boxes, Page.
-A lot? -I'd say all.
-[Page] Oh! -I was gonna say -- OK.
Deb!
Deb says you've checked all the boxes.
-I think you did. -[Page] Wow.
-Well, thank you so much. -[Deb] Thank you, Page.
But go on and talk to David now,
and I'll see you guys in a little bit.
-[Scott] OK. -OK, all right.
-[both] Thanks, Page. -We'll see you soon.
Thank you, Deb and Scott.
[mouthing] Fingers crossed!
Good afternoon, Scott. How you doing?
-[Scott] Good to see you. -Welcome back to your house.
[Deb] Hi, thank you.
And you guys look fantastic.
-[Scott and Deb] Thank you. -You look great, too.
-Wow. -Yeah.
-Yes, wow! -[David] Something else, huh?
-It's a transformation. -Looks great.
-It's overwhelming. -Yeah, she did a fantastic job.
It's annoyingly great.
[laughing]
Makes my job a lot more difficult.
Let's talk about the house we saw that you loved.
That house basically is perfect for whatever future
you guys end up in.
Four bedrooms and two bathrooms on the second floor.
-[Deb] Yes. -[David] Which means --
both kids can be up there and you still have a guest room.
-Yeah, that'd be nice. -[Deb] Mm-hmm.
Although I have to imagine that one of the kids is gonna
wanna covet that bedroom and ensuite in the basement.
[Deb] I wanna covet that bedroom and ensuite.
Yeah, that basement was pretty stellar.
[David] I mean, you've got a full-on kitchen, living room,
and walk out, you know, to the backyard and the pool.
So cozy down there. Yeah, it was nice.
[David] And on the main floor,
a fantastic eat-in kitchen, family room combination,
all of that, and it was under budget.
Now, money. Let's talk about money.
Let's talk about the new value of this house
with all the work that's been done.
The original value of your house was $950,000.
With a reno budget of $185,000,
the current value of your home is $1,250,000
for an increase of $300,000.
It was already a house that you could afford.
It's now putting money in your pocket.
-[Scott and Deb] Yep. -Talk about it.
[Scott] Yep.
And let us know which house you think makes the most sense
for your family and your future.
Did you do something on,
like, every single level of this house?
Every single -- yes!
-Every level you did something. -Yes, I did.
I'm the trifecta.
-So what'd you think? -Yeah.
-This is hard. -Yeah.
This house has been totally transformed.
[Scott] It has, it has.
Page has just done an amazing job.
Yeah, that pantry is incredible.
I never thought I could have a pantry here.
-Yeah. -So that was pretty spectacular.
The basement was unbelievable in this house.
I mean, it had, like, a separate bedroom and ensuite.
-What about the pool, though? -Pool.
-[sighs] Price. -It was under budget, actually.
But David took us to a great place.
And that house was -- had lots.
It actually had more of some things than our place now.
-You never have luck like this. -I know.
I -- listen, I know. Trust me.
Well, it's not gonna start now.
You know what? You probably are right.
-I think we know. -We're on the same page.
-I think. -I think so.
-You guys did your chat? -Yes.
-We've had a long chat, yes. -It's been hard.
But now's the time to let us know,
are you going to love it?
Or are you going to list it?
-Ready? -Yeah.
-We're going to list it. -Fantastic decision.
-Fantastic. -Wow!
-You both did an amazing job. -Yes.
We know somebody is going to love it,
but I think it is --
I think it is time for us to have a change.
And David just gave us an option and an opportunity,
I think, that we just -- we couldn't pass up, so...
Can you believe he's saying this?
No, I was actually shocked, to be honest.
He did not want to move. Ever, ever.
I guess I have to share all my shine with this guy sometimes.
OK, congratulations.
And congratulations to both of you.
[Scott and Deb] Thank you.
I know you'll love your new home,
and the next owner will love this home as well.
-[Scott] Absolutely. -[Deb] Yeah, thank you so much.
-You're welcome. -Hey, you guys made it a pleasure.
-Thank you, thank you so much. -It was a pleasure.
-Thank you Deb. -Thank you so much.
-Thank you, Page. -Thanks, Scott.
Thank you. You guys are amazing.
[Page and David sigh]
Congratulations. Well deserved.
Well, well, thank you very much.
I will say, though,
in the beginning when they said,
"Basically, David, you can look anywhere,"
I was like, that's half the battle won.
-Really? -Yeah.
But wait, what's the other half?
-I'm looking at it. -Oh.
I feel even better about this semi-loss.