1 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,395 Here's where we are. 2 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,949 August 24 of last year we had a guest on a panel 3 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,157 about drones named Cyrus West, 4 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,597 a retired Air Force captain who now teaches at the Maxwell School. 5 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,037 When the panel was done, Captain West gave Jerry a tip 6 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,589 about a black op with the codename Genoa. 7 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,637 What did he tell you about Genoa? 8 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,996 He told me that in March 2009, two Marines 9 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,276 were separated from their unit in the Hindu Kush. 10 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,831 Intelligence told us that they were captured by Taliban fighters, 11 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,072 taken across the border into Pakistan, held in a small village, 12 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,674 and in a matter of a few hours 13 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,559 they were gonna be sold to al-Qaeda and publically beheaded. 14 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,439 A MARSOC unit was deployed to attempt an extraction. 15 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,400 Two MH-60s, Black Hawks, came in with 15 MARSOCs apiece. 16 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,234 The first unit was overrun by the enemy and trapped behind cover. 17 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,119 - They were wearing MOPP gear. - Mission Oriented Protective Posture. 18 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,714 The second unit, also in MOPP gear, 19 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,031 came in and successfully extracted the prisoners 20 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,793 as well as the first MARSOC unit. 21 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,440 - How? - By dropping sarin gas on the village. 22 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,640 How would the prisoners have survived? 23 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,359 We hit them with atropine and dragged them onto the helos. 24 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,796 - Everyone else was wearing MOPP gear. - Everyone but the civilians. 25 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,839 That was Cyrus West's story and that was last August. 26 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:30,470 Jerry then tracked down a retired gunnery sergeant, Eric Sweeney. 27 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,040 Jerry and I met with Sergeant Sweeney 28 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,637 and the full transcript of that meeting begins on page four in your binders. 29 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,513 Sweeney describes rehearsals for the mission... 30 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,990 - In MOPP gear. - ...and then describes the mission itself. 31 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,272 He witnesses blinding smoke and women and children 32 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,840 with boils and burns on their faces. 33 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:47,877 Back on the helicopter he asks another member of his crew 34 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,759 what that was all about and he's told it was sarin. 35 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,832 Jerry put a team together to track down other members 36 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:55,515 of the crew and any ground support, but no one was talking. 37 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,069 Neal then did a search of any tweets from the area 38 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,914 sent around March '09 and came up with Hamni8. 39 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,037 The tweets from Hamni8 would seem to be describing 40 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,073 what we'd heard from Sergeant Sweeney and from Cyrus West. 41 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,389 "Helicopters. Grenades." 42 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,631 Then a moment later, "Men in gas masks. Machine guns." 43 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,792 A moment later, "Burning." Then, "Americans. White smoke." 44 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:15,480 Then, "Two helicopters. No markings on them, but they're American." 45 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,870 It's 32 minutes before the next tweet. 46 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,599 "I think everyone's dead." 47 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,753 We believe the reason for the 32-minute gap is frequency hopping. 48 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,593 We'd have jammed the radio frequencies cell phones use. 49 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,275 West is one, Sweeney is two, Hamni8 is three. 50 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,637 Four is a humanitarian report from a guy named Leon Deit. 51 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,997 Deit was in the region working for an NGO 52 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,313 and traveled to the site of the extraction on verbal reports of a mass grave. 53 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,154 The eyewitness accounts are consistent with the use of sarin gas. 54 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,239 And as you can see, the report includes 55 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,674 pictures of the victims. 56 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,231 Five is a confidential source who confirmed the story 57 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,119 and provided a copy of the munitions manifest. 58 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,591 The manifest included this item, MX-76. 59 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,833 MX-76 doesn't exist. It's a euphemism for classified material. 60 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,879 We believe it's the sarin canisters. 61 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,758 The five of us as well as some other staffers 62 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,877 have had a role in putting this together so far. 63 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,236 We've purposely kept a number of people out of the loop 64 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,154 including Will for fresh eyes. 65 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,277 Are there any questions? 66 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,477 - Sarin gas? - I don't believe it, either. 67 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,031 I also don't believe in Santa Claus, but if I saw eight reindeer take flight... 68 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,753 To be clear, you haven't seen eight reindeer. 69 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:30,832 You've talked to someone who says he's seen eight reindeer. 70 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,877 And we have someone who's tweeted about the reindeer 71 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,754 and a third witness who's interviewed victims of the reindeer 72 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,594 and a highly-placed confidential source who's confirmed 73 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,149 that in this place at that time, reindeer flew. 74 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,039 It couldn't matter less, but Santa Claus has nine reindeer. 75 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,600 - Rudolph. - Mac, I don't think... 76 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,359 - Dasher, Dancer. - Vixen, Blitzen. 77 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,159 - How many was that? - It really doesn't matter. 78 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,640 - You believe we used sarin? - Yes. 79 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,040 - On civilians? - Yes. 80 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,634 - Dasher, Dancer, Prancer. - What are you doing? 81 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,154 Well, I'm digesting what I just heard. 82 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,959 I'm doing a fact check on the number of reindeer. 83 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,271 Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Comet, Blitzen, Cupid, 84 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,790 Donner, Vixen, and somebody else. 85 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,950 - Rudolph. - Thank you. 86 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,315 - Wait, how many was that? - Start again. 87 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,119 No. Do we even have sarin gas? 88 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,153 We aren't supposed to. It was supposed to be destroyed by 2007 89 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,754 according to the Chemical Weapons Convention. 90 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:12,911 But it wasn't. We still have it. The DOD confirms that. 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,599 We may have it, but we've never used it. 92 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,038 We didn't use it in World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the first Gulf War, 93 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,998 and we were fighting people that did have... 94 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,719 Those all happened before 9/11. 95 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,155 We torture people now. We kidnap them, wiretap them... 96 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,677 - Drop deadly gas on civilians? - It happened, Jim. 97 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,717 This is the one we know about. 98 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,917 - The original tip came from Cyrus West? - I know, but... 99 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,152 - He's not reliable. - His crime was not being good on television. 100 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,516 But he led us to Eric Sweeney, so who cares? 101 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:41,590 What about the Marines who were rescued? 102 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:42,750 We don't know their names 103 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:45,071 and they wouldn't have been in a good position to know what happened. 104 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,038 Sweeney says they were in a hole in back of one of the houses. 105 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,190 And then they were exposed to the gas. 106 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:49,839 They would have known if they were hit with an atropine. 107 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,673 Probably, but it doesn't matter. We don't know who they are 108 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:52,830 and we've been looking for seven months. 109 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,480 We have 30 names and here they are. 110 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,279 These were given to us by Sweeney. 111 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,953 None of them is talking with the exception 112 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,475 of Lance Corporal Herman Valenzuela who's dead. 113 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,877 It sounded like you said Herman Valenzuela, 114 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,519 in spite of being dead, is talking. 115 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,193 - I wasn't saying that. - I was confused by that, too. 116 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:10,476 Valenzuela was killed in action, the other 29 aren't talking. 117 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,074 What about Hamni8? Have you tried to track him down? 118 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,550 Yes, but he's gone. We believe given his proximity to the raid 119 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:15,869 that he was killed. 120 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,838 Well, or that he couldn't pay for his cell plan. 121 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,634 Those are two pretty different things. 122 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,360 Have we put boots on the ground to see if there's any locals we can talk to? 123 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,511 You can't send Americans in there or anyone working for Americans. 124 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,875 - A local fixer? - It's much too dangerous. 125 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,030 - What does Tapley say? - Who? 126 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,998 Mike Tapley, our military analyst, 127 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,673 who I don't know why we didn't use him instead of West. 128 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,353 'Cause I was producing the segment. 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,432 Neither Mike nor our Pentagon correspondent have been brought in. 130 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,874 The Pentagon would go into shutdown. 131 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,553 We'll ask for comment 24 hours before air. 132 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,074 Before air? 133 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,958 We're really talking about... 134 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,794 Charlie, be the voice of reason. 135 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,155 I think it happened 136 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,994 and I think we're two inches away from proving it. 137 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,117 It's always 50-50 when you ask Charlie to be the voice of reason. 138 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,157 - Nobody's saying it's ready to air. - I'm saying it's ready. 139 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,276 It certainly is not. 140 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,320 And we can keep calling the names on the list till St. Swithin's Day, 141 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,074 but we have a better chance of getting Herman Valenzuela to talk 142 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,753 than any of the other 29. 143 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,400 So we started looking for someone not on the list. 144 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,995 A flag officer who'd be in a position to confirm the mission. Neal? 145 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,072 We ran five separate searches and cross-referenced 146 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,032 the five search parameters which were the following, 147 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,915 recently retired generals who have attempted to publish work that was heavily redacted, 148 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,360 commanders who have served as head 149 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,511 of the Marines Combat Logistics and Munitions Element, 150 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,559 generals who've taken academic positions since retiring 151 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,360 who've been critical of the US stockpile of chemical weapons, 152 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,114 and flag officers who were on active duty when Genoa took place. 153 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,634 When we think Genoa took place. 154 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,958 There's one name that meets all five criteria. 155 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,431 This is three-star Marine General Stanislaus Stomtonovich. 156 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,279 He was a munitions consultant at White Sands 157 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,477 and an expert on the US chemical weapons program. 158 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,155 He retired six months after Genoa and lives in Silver Spring. 159 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,960 You're gonna call and ask him if we dropped sarin gas on a small village? 160 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,872 - No, we're going to his house. - Charlie, God damn it. 161 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,270 He's already alerted the Pentagon's Office of Public Affairs. 162 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,319 He thinks we're coming about something else. We're just getting in the vestibule. 163 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,517 But eventually, you will ask him the question? 164 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,072 Yeah. 165 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,517 Do you understand what we're accusing them of? 166 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,831 We do, Jim, yeah. And I think we're less concerned 167 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,350 with what we're accusing them of than we are with what they did. 168 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,477 What you think they did, which I still can't hardly believe 169 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,472 my fucking ears we're even talking about. 170 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,552 - What was the general's name? - Stomtonovich. 171 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,917 How are you gonna question Stomtonovich without him knowing what you're asking? 172 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,390 We're gonna ask him how chemical weapons would be stored and deployed. 173 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,517 - What's the cover story? - Libya. 174 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,158 You've been on this for seven months? 175 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,113 Do you believe the story? 176 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,314 I don't know. 177 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,312 Have we nailed down the number of reindeer? 178 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,035 I see you. 179 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,918 You seem really excited every time this works. 180 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,993 Is it because you're seeing me or is it because of the technology? 181 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,992 - The technology. - I get that. 182 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,276 But tomorrow night it'll be because I'm seeing you. 183 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,556 I'll tell you why you should be excited about tomorrow night. 184 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,359 I got a suite at the Soho Grand. 185 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,397 - It cost three years' salary. - I like you. 186 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,790 - That's such great news for me. - It really is. 187 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,430 So I'll pick you up at the event at 10:00. I'll be out in the lobby. We'll go to dinner 188 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:06,270 and then back to the hotel for, you know, discretionary time. 189 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:08,836 - Speaking of dinner... - What's about to happen? 190 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,912 - Do you know Aubrey Lerner? - No. 191 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,719 - Her byline is AK. - I don't know her. 192 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,314 - AK Lerner. - I don't know her, 193 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,596 but I feel like she's about to be an obstacle in my path to... 194 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:18,239 - Discretionary time? - Yes. 195 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,118 No, she's been on the press plane 196 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,078 for a couple of weeks and she reports for mtvU. 197 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,880 It sounds like she'd have a really good time staying home by herself tomorrow. 198 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,480 I don't think you should rob her of that. 199 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:28,279 She stays at her parents' place when she's in New York 200 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,239 and I thought she could come out to dinner with us tomorrow night 201 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,549 and you could bring Neal. 202 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,074 I think they'd really hit it off 203 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,560 and you said he just broke up with somebody. 204 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,917 Neal's always just broken up with somebody. He calls it going home in the morning. 205 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,195 It'll be a fun foursome. 206 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,556 - Dinner and then straight to the hotel. - How many of us? 207 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,314 Jim, I'll have just finished covering a $5,000-a-plate dinner. 208 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,959 I'll be in cocktail attire. 209 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,440 Do it. Do it. 210 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,477 Whatever she's asking to do, do it. Do it now. 211 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:52,153 - You gonna be okay? - Yeah. 212 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,994 - Hey, Gary. - Hey, Hallie. 213 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,959 In terms of what you're gonna be wearing, could you describe exactly what... 214 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,997 I'll see you guys tomorrow at 10:00? 215 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,520 - In the ballroom lobby. - I've got to go. 216 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,432 I'll talk to you later. 217 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,519 Neal. 218 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,593 Harry Truman dubbed the 80th Congress the "Do-Nothing Congress." 219 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:13,594 Its productivity, measured by this bar, shows the number of laws they passed. 220 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:17,276 The productivity of the 112th Congress is measured by this bar. 221 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,637 The 112th Congress has not yet passed one sixth of the laws 222 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:21,995 of the Do-Nothing Congress. 223 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,800 But let's look at the laws they have passed. 224 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,476 Congressman Peter Roskam represents the 6th District of Illinois. 225 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,677 Illinois has the fourth highest unemployment rate 226 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,037 in the country with 9.9% of its workforce out of work. 227 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,160 So Congressman Roskam introduced House Resolution 21-39, 228 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,431 which would require the Secretary of the Treasury 229 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,912 to mint coins in commemoration of the centennial of the Lions Club. 230 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,838 Congressman Randy Forbes of Virginia 231 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,709 sponsored a bill reaffirming "In God We Trust" as our national motto, 232 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,759 a motto already made official in 1956, 233 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,635 2002, 2006 and now 2011. 234 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,036 One in four American children are living in poverty, 235 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,839 but the motto should take care of that. 236 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,435 We're fighting a war, a stagnant economy, 237 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,989 a failing education system and climate change. 238 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,552 The 112th Congress has renamed 40 post offices. 239 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,916 Richard Shelby, the ranking Republican 240 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,514 on the Senate Banking Committee, 241 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,069 blocked the appointment of MIT economist Peter Diamond 242 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,590 to a vacant seat on the Federal Reserve Board. 243 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:24,117 Said Shelby, "I do not believe the current environment of uncertainty 244 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,431 "would benefit from monetary policy decisions 245 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,830 "made by board members who are learning on the job." 246 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,480 While Senator Shelby held up Peter Diamond's nomination 247 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:34,234 on the grounds that Diamond was insufficiently qualified 248 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,277 to counsel the Federal Reserve Board, 249 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,750 Peter Diamond won the Nobel Prize for economics. 250 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,993 - You busy? - No. 251 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,039 Hey, this may sound nuts, but I'm looking at the movie John Carter 252 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,759 as a possible subject for my News Night segment. 253 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,910 What about it? 254 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,231 Well, it's about a Civil War Confederate officer 255 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,710 who's transported to Mars, which is a lush planet 256 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,553 inhabited by 12-foot-tall barbarians. 257 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,393 Because of his different bone density 258 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,880 and the planet's low gravity, John Carter can jump... 259 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,634 I said, "What about it?" not, "What's it about?" Also, you know, spoilers. 260 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,235 Okay, well, it's projected to lose about 200 million for Disney. 261 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,640 You want to do the economics of Hollywood? 262 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,076 Say what you want, but they're one of the few American industries 263 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,640 still making a product people want to buy. 264 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,359 Doesn't sound like they want to buy John Carter. 265 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,318 Well, that's my point. Nobody's gonna ask for a bailout 266 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,278 and Disney stock is relatively safe. 267 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,319 Entertainment is one of our highest revenue-generating exports 268 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,631 and they employ members of 17 different unions, 269 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,394 all of which have excellent minimum basic contracts. 270 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,040 They may take it in the teeth on John Carter, but nobody's gonna get hurt. 271 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,634 It's still early. It's just a first idea. 272 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,677 - Yeah, no, it sounds good. - What are you doing? 273 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,592 Looking at last night's show. 274 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:32,512 - They did a focus group? - No. 275 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,592 There are dial lines on the bottom of the screen. 276 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:37,275 Yeah, those are just... That's... 277 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,039 What's going on? 278 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,839 I did a focus group. I did it myself. 279 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,832 I called our company and did it on my own. 280 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,594 They did the dials and a moderator got comments after. 281 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:47,512 - Why? - Why? 282 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,114 - Yeah. - To check in. 283 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,600 Why does a politician take polls? 284 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:52,592 To find out what people want him to say the next day. 285 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:53,955 Are you comfortable with that analogy? 286 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,509 Charlie doesn't allow me to be tested anymore. 287 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,478 So I did it myself. 288 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:01,798 We have kind of a big brother-little sister relationship. 289 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,439 - Which one are you? - And the little sister always ends up 290 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,591 chewing out the big brother and he says, "Thanks, sis." 291 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,632 This is on Nickelodeon? 292 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,440 - Never mind. - Are you preparing for a chewing out? 293 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,879 Nah. 294 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,952 You forgot to ask me how the test scores were. 295 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,269 I didn't forget. 296 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,471 427. 427. 297 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:23,472 Are the odd numbers on the right side or the left side? 298 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:24,994 I can't see any numbers yet. 299 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,436 All right, you look on the right side, I'll look on the left side. 300 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,319 I'm already on the left side. Why don't you look on the right side? 301 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,153 I'll look on the right side. 302 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,760 Hey, found it. 303 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,912 - Is it this house or that house? - I don't know. 304 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,277 Let's just clean this up and ring both doorbells. 305 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,000 What are you doing in my garbage cans? 306 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,198 - General Stomtonovich? - Yeah. 307 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,192 I'm sorry we're a little late. 308 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,873 What are you doing in my garbage cans? 309 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,952 We ran over them with our rental car. 310 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,918 We're just gonna get this cleaned up. 311 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,957 Were you texting? 312 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,714 No, sir. It was regular negligence. 313 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,436 Well, hurry up and tell me what you want. 314 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,791 I'm sorry, sir. You're General Stom... 315 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,314 I know who I am. 316 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,074 I'm asking who you are and how I can help you. 317 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,119 - I'm Charlie Skinner. - MacKenzie McHale. 318 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:26,596 Hmm. 319 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,751 How about if I write you a check for $100 320 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,514 and you send the magazine subscriptions to whoever you want? 321 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,600 Sir, we spoke to you on the phone yesterday. 322 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,512 We made an appointment to see you here at your house. 323 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,954 Yeah, right. That's too bad. 324 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,956 I like arguing with Jehovah's Witnesses. 325 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,038 You want to know how chemical weapons are stored? 326 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,315 Yes, sir. 327 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,470 All right. 328 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,880 What is the Marine Combat Munitions Element? 329 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,555 We oversee all or almost all 330 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,678 of the munitions supplies for the entirety of the Marine Corps. 331 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,559 - Bullets, bombs... - And that includes chemical... 332 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,040 Foul him. Foul him now! 333 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,474 And he buries a three. 334 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,833 March Madness. 335 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,839 Best sporting event on Earth. 336 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,991 Better than the Super Bowl, World Series... 337 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,197 - Better than the World Cup? - World Cup? 338 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,590 - What are you, from Brazil? - Brooklyn. 339 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:27,592 2003, Gaddafi announced Libya would voluntarily eliminate all materials, 340 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,833 equipment and programs, but they've still got 'em. 341 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,474 - How about us? - The US? 342 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,438 - Yeah. - Do we still have chemical weapons? 343 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:36,590 - Yeah. - Yeah. 344 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,512 - We do? - Yeah. 345 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,560 Do you believe chemical weapons are a legitimate weapon of war? 346 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,115 I believe chemical weapons, like any other weapons, 347 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,271 are tools to be used to kill the enemy. 348 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,750 Which tool you use depends on battlefield circumstance. 349 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,718 - And collateral damage? - It doesn't make much difference 350 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,918 to the collateral damage whether it's damage by gas 351 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,400 or a Hellfire missile, does it? 352 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,711 So you think chemical weapons should be part of our arsenal? 353 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,200 Part of ours, not Libya's. 354 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,795 Do you think we should be able to use chemical weapons? 355 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,391 Missed free throws is what kills you. 356 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,716 General? 357 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,553 I don't think I want to talk about chemical weapons. 358 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:13,915 - We think you do. - Yeah? 359 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,196 During a speech at the War College two years ago, 360 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,239 you were openly critical of the destruction of our stockpiles. 361 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,835 You've commissioned two studies citing the potential need 362 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,832 for chemical weapons in combat situations 363 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,271 and your book was so heavily redacted that all that was left were pronouns. 364 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,352 Why are you two big shots in Silver Spring, Maryland, 365 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,956 running into my garbage cans and asking me about sarin? 366 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,955 General, we never mentioned sarin. 367 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,672 We know about Genoa. 368 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,958 You can't touch a shooter while he's in the process of shooting the ball. 369 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,474 It's against the rules. 370 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,916 Shooter goes to the foul line, takes two free throws. 371 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,357 But what happens if the shooter brandishes a knife? 372 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,520 He's dribbling the ball and he suddenly takes out a switchblade. 373 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,512 You're allowed to grab his arm now 374 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,991 because we're not playing basketball anymore. 375 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,437 This is a helo manifest. Can you confirm it's authentic? 376 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,313 It's an authentic helo manifest. 377 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,073 Can you confirm that Genoa happened? 378 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,153 Why would I confirm, even off the record, the existence of a classified mission? 379 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,357 Because you believe very strongly that if the shooter 380 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,315 takes a knife out, it shouldn't be illegal to grab his arm. 381 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,190 Here are my conditions. You black out my face. 382 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,839 - Sure. - Alter my voice. 383 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,718 - Mmm-hmm. - That's it. 384 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,632 We do it right here noon tomorrow. 385 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:47,915 I want to be able to watch the games. 386 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,276 - Not during the interview. - I'm not turning that TV off. 387 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:53,478 I don't know how many years I have left after this thing goes on the air. 388 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,070 The producer's name is Jerry Dantana. 389 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,278 He's from the DC bureau and it's been his story from the beginning. 390 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,197 We have to head back to New York, General. 391 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,873 It was nice meeting you. 392 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,520 We won't have any more communication after this unless it's necessary. 393 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,557 How did he find it... Dantana? 394 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,597 How did he find the story? 395 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,478 Just a lucky tip. 396 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,836 And then very late in my political career, 397 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,833 I had the opportunity to read the speech and I almost threw up. 398 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,115 The speech that almost made Senator Santorum vomit 399 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,796 was given by John F. Kennedy in Houston, Texas, in 1960. 400 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,440 The presidential candidate was answering concerns 401 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,354 that his Catholicism would be his compass in the Oval Office. 402 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,955 And the Houston speech made a forceful argument 403 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,795 for a firewall between religion, any religion, and government. 404 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,634 With us by satellite from Boulder, Colorado, is Randall Dell, 405 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,952 President of the League of Catholic Voters and a Santorum supporter. 406 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,191 - Mr. Dell, welcome. - Good to be here. 407 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,511 The common wisdom is that political candidates 408 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,353 shouldn't be asked about their religious beliefs. 409 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,470 I agree with that. 410 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,553 But what if a candidate makes their religious beliefs part of their candidacy? 411 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,313 Is there a candidate who's doing that? 412 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,551 - The candidate you support is doing that. - That's not true, sir. 413 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,190 Is Rick Santorum devout? Yes. Does his faith guide his actions? Yes. 414 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,715 Does he say so every day in campaign speeches? He does. 415 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,234 Let's put this quote up on the screen. 416 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,390 - G17-a. - Got it. 417 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,676 Rick Santorum speaking at a Tea Party event in Columbus. 418 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,151 He said this in regard to President Obama's climate change agenda. 419 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,074 "It's not about your quality of life. It's not about your jobs. 420 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,358 "It's about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. 421 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,990 "Oh, not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology." 422 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,231 Mr. Dell, one of Rick Santorum's problems 423 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,516 with the president's plan to combat climate change 424 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,398 is that its roots can't be found in the Bible. 425 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,035 We have a lot of reasons to be concerned with Obama's plans, 426 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:34,271 but you're plainly distorting Rick Santorum's words. 427 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,198 I don't think I am, but let's go to this instead. 428 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,470 - 17B. - Up. 429 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,789 - Thirty seconds. - Let it go long. 430 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,191 ...at the Press and People of Faith in Politics forum in 2008. 431 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,920 "I think there are a lot of problems with the theory of evolution 432 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,753 "and I do believe it is used to promote 433 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,400 "a world view that is anti-theist, that is atheist. 434 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,598 "You should have academic freedom in the classroom when teaching about life." 435 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,070 - That was 2008. Mr. Santorum... - Ready 18. 436 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,594 ...made those remarks when he didn't hold office. 437 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,353 - He was speaking as a private citizen. - Ready. 438 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,432 - Go. - He was speaking in defense of an amendment 439 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,080 he offered in 2001 when he was a US Senator, 440 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,437 making it a federal law that, "Where topics are taught 441 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,433 "that may generate controversy, such as biological evolution, 442 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,472 "the curriculum should help students to understand 443 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,200 "the full range of scientific views that exist." 444 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,033 By full range of scientific views, 445 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,157 - he's including Genesis, right? - That's right. 446 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,152 It seems like far from objecting that religion 447 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,749 be brought up in political campaigns, he's insisting on it. 448 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,355 And here's Rick Santorum's opponent, Mitt Romney, 449 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,238 - asking us not to ask about his religion. - 22. 450 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,880 That idea that we should choose people 451 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,714 based upon their religion for public office 452 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,031 is what I find to be most troubling, 453 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,555 because the founders of this country went to great length 454 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,599 to make sure, and even put it in the Constitution, 455 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,070 that we would not choose people who represent us 456 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,594 in government based upon their religion. 457 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,155 And now here he is invoking his religion. 458 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,391 The Declaration of Independence established our rights 459 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,474 by saying that they were created not by government, but by the Creator. 460 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,632 We are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights. 461 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,916 I will fight to preserve America's tradition as a religious nation. 462 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,476 So, can we really not ask these candidates questions 463 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,438 about what they believe with regard to religion? 464 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:05,590 Well, like what? 465 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,117 Like is it important that you and I have the same definition of "creator"? 466 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,554 They plainly meant God. 467 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,199 That's not plain to everybody. 468 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,077 Like right there. Just a smile would have made it folksier. 469 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,550 Also, honey, you've got to stay away from religion. 470 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,994 You know you're just asking for it. 471 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,480 What else am I supposed to talk about 472 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,040 with the President of the League of Catholic Voters? 473 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:25,794 You don't have him on as a guest. That's another thing. 474 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,270 You want guests that don't make you look so combative. 475 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,238 That's why your likability numbers are down. 476 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,113 - I don't know. I think I'm likable. - I think you're lovable. 477 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,238 - Thank you. - But your numbers are problematic. 478 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,952 Listen to me, I'd like dinner to last 10 to 15 minutes. 479 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,474 You don't like to linger. 480 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,472 I'm doing my lingering somewhere else tonight, 481 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,950 so we're not ordering anything that takes a long time to prepare. 482 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,635 We're not ordering anything well-done. We're not ordering anything cooked. 483 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,074 It's okay with me if we don't order anything. 484 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,594 It's not going to be okay with the restaurant. 485 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,796 Screw the restaurant, Neal. 486 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,395 The restaurant hasn't not seen his girlfriend in a month. 487 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,076 The restaurant's girlfriend isn't wearing cocktail attire. 488 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,516 - You gonna be okay? - Yeah, I'm fine. 489 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,479 Six minutes and 20 seconds. 490 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,074 God, it's you. 491 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,038 That's how long you spent tonight on Etch-a-Sketch. 492 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,479 - Six minutes and 20 seconds. - Hey, Taylor. 493 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,398 - Hi, Jim. - You look very nice. 494 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,751 - Thank you. - This is Neal Sampat. We work together. 495 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,116 Neal, this is Taylor Warren, a Romney campaign spokesman. 496 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,510 - Woman... Spokesperson. - Nice to meet you. 497 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,319 - You work for ACN? - Yes. 498 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,160 I loathe you in ways that are unquantifiable. 499 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,830 Cool. 500 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,435 - You must be excited to see Hallie. - I am. 501 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,558 I mentioned to Hallie that I didn't have anything to do in the city tonight. 502 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,676 No. 503 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,433 And she said that I should join you guys for dinner. 504 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,878 You should see the look on your face. 505 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,191 Don't worry, I know you had a special night planned, 506 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,192 so of course I'm coming along. You know why? 507 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,555 Because we spent six minutes and 20 seconds... 508 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,790 On Etch-a-Sketch, yeah. 509 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,270 - It was a story and you know it. - No, it was a gaffe and you know it. 510 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:53,159 He came out and said, "Don't worry about anything I've said during the primary. 511 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,674 "I can be whatever you want me to be." 512 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,194 He didn't say it. Fehrnstrom did. 513 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,794 And how do you expect us to juggle 514 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,600 very diverse coalitions inside the Republican party? 515 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,354 - Really glad I came tonight. - There's no way you're coming to dinner. 516 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,715 Jim. 517 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,512 - I've missed you. - You look amazing. 518 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,000 - Plus? - I've missed you, too. 519 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,673 There it is. This is Aubrey. 520 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,479 Hey, it's nice to meet you. Neal. 521 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,359 Okay, full disclosure, the press wasn't allowed any food, 522 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,272 but we stole a couple bottles of Chardonnay 523 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,397 - and I am wicked hammered. - Okay. 524 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,678 - Neal, this is Aubrey. - Hey. 525 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,836 - Nice to meet you. - Full disclosure... 526 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,070 The press wasn't allowed any food, 527 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,594 but we stole a couple bottles of Chardonnay... 528 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,712 - Wicked hammered. - You said that already. 529 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,234 We're gonna get some food in your stomach. 530 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,232 Maybe that's not necessary. 531 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,313 So, listen, Taylor's kind of sad tonight. 532 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,278 I don't know why, so I asked her to come to dinner. 533 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:43,079 She's not sad. She's mad 'cause we did 534 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,072 six minutes and 20 seconds on Etch-a-Sketch. 535 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,039 And now I have to have a dinner with her that could last up to a half hour. 536 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:49,839 You're afraid of Taylor. 537 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,071 Being afraid of Taylor is just good common sense. 538 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,919 - Anybody hungry? - I can boot and rally. 539 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,559 Let's do it. 540 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,711 - You here alone? - Yeah. You? 541 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,029 I am. 542 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,638 This is what I do now. I drink alone at bars late at night. 543 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,280 See, men can do that with no stigma attached. 544 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:06,430 - Women... - Women can vote 545 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,273 and your vote counts the same as my vote. 546 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,319 I'm really supposed to worry about a stigma? 547 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,956 Oh, Don. 548 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,440 Don, Don. 549 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,640 Don. 550 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,360 Are you happy with that name? 551 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,151 Pretty happy. Never really thought about it. 552 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,560 How'd it go in Maryland? 553 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,160 He confirmed. 554 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,030 Will he do it on camera? 555 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,949 - Find out tomorrow. - Hey, Mac. 556 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,509 - What do you say, Chelsea? - You here alone? 557 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,557 - Don't stigmatize her. - Where's the gang? 558 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,279 Jim and Neal are on a double date, 559 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:39,317 Sloan is out with a New York Giant, 560 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,235 and Will's having a quiet night at home with Mrs. Macbeth. 561 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,120 He took some questions from the audience 562 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,998 and somebody asked him if he thought the court 563 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,480 was going to overturn the ACA. 564 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,472 And I thought he was gonna duck the question, 565 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,153 but he answered for about two minutes. 566 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,118 - What did he say? - I swear to God, I don't know. 567 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,793 Can I ask something? 568 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,156 What's the fucking obsession with Ann Romney's horse? 569 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,675 - Reagan had a horse. - His horse didn't dance. 570 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,070 So fucking what, James? It's a clever horse. 571 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,594 It's an Olympian. It's a horse. 572 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,194 And what in this is bad? 573 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,351 And how do you know that Reagan's horse didn't dance? 574 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,874 It's a reasonable question, James. 575 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,679 How did you get into campaign reporting? 576 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,070 I told my bosses that nobody was covering Ron Paul 577 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,680 and they were like, "Go do it yourself." 578 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,558 And I was like, "Really?" And they were like, "Really." 579 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,359 So Ron Paul, 2012! 580 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,715 - Is this your... 581 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,031 - Okay. - Seriously? 582 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,873 Yeah, she's into it. 583 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,479 - Hey. - Hi. 584 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,279 - You're back again. - Yeah. 585 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,750 - It was Stoli and tonic? - Yeah. 586 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,758 - I'm Devon. - Maggie. 587 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,719 I admire MacKenzie. 588 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,712 - And Charlie. - So do I. 589 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,473 I know you do. 590 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,200 But I wonder if it's blinding you to certain things. 591 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,600 Like what? 592 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,956 Well, honey, every night you cross examine somebody. 593 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,236 They're using your prosecutorial skills. 594 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,552 Wait. First, they're not my puppet masters. I'm the managing editor. 595 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,359 But don't you always listen to MacKenzie? 596 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,318 - Not always. - What percent of the time? 597 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,993 I don't know. But the idea is 598 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,037 that we cross examine people from time to time. 599 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:09,555 - We? - A lot of staff prep goes into those segments. 600 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,313 But the staff's face isn't on camera. 601 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,471 What are we talking about? 602 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,232 Are you being sacrificed 603 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,552 so that Mac and Charlie can do the show they want to do? 604 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,194 It's the show I want to do, too. 605 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,839 - Is it? - Yeah. 606 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,437 Then that's that. If it's the show you want to do, 607 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,678 then who cares how many people like you? I like you. 608 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,230 It actually doesn't measure how many people like you. 609 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:34,840 It measures how much people like you. 610 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,434 - How much? - Yeah. 611 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,592 - That's not something that can be measured. - That's right. 612 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,479 So this is really all there is to go on? 613 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,200 Do you fully trust Jerry Dantana? 614 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,954 - Why wouldn't I? - No reason. I was just curious. 615 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,600 - But there's a reason you're asking. - There really isn't. 616 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,956 - Can I tell you what it is? - It was just curiosity. 617 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,952 - It's 'cause he's not Jim. - Please. 618 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,714 Jerry has committed the crime of not being Jim Harper. 619 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,792 You know how long it took you to trust me? 620 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,349 - How long? - I'll let you know when it happens. 621 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,591 I completely trust you. 622 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,912 - Do you? - With my life, Don. 623 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,832 Thank you. That's nice to hear. 624 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,480 You know, when I look at you... 625 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,473 - Sloan's going out with a football player? - Yeah. 626 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,313 - Who? - I don't remember his name. 627 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,800 - You know what position he plays? - No. 628 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,314 - Offense or defense? - I don't know. 629 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,720 Why don't you just ask her out? 630 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,359 After she's gone out with a professional athlete 631 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,399 who's 10 years younger than I am with three percent body fat 632 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,119 and ripped muscles that have been conditioned 633 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,556 over a lifetime of two-a-days sweating... 634 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,393 How long have you been thinking about this guy? 635 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,914 How am I supposed to follow that? 636 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,794 - And, you know... - Get it done? 637 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,951 I can get it done. 638 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,360 I'm saying... 639 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,910 get it done in a spectacular fashion. 640 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,599 This is how most men think? 641 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,991 This is how every single man thinks except for the guy out with Sloan right now. 642 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,959 And that's why you haven't asked her out? 643 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,239 Sometimes she subs in for Elliot and sometimes she does a segment with us, 644 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,834 which means sometimes I'm her boss. 645 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,674 That stopped absolutely no one here, including you and Maggie. 646 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,320 That worked out phenomenally well. 647 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,119 Nothing that happened to her is your fault. 648 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,840 - It's really good. - Me, too. 649 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,679 That's the spicy Shanghai soup noodles, 650 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,474 - chilled silken tofu garlic and herbs? - Yes, it is. 651 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,313 - How'd you recognize that? - It's kind of a hobby. 652 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,357 And here's the charred chili rubbed beef skewer. 653 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,193 - With Thai basil dipping sauce. - That's right. 654 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,555 - So, Jim. - Yeah? 655 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,040 - I have to tell you something. - Okay. 656 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,510 The Sex and the City story is off-the-charts awesome. 657 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,239 - What's the Sex and the City story? - Please, no. 658 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:37,635 - You haven't heard this? - I haven't. 659 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,518 Is it an embarrassing story about Jim? 660 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,592 - It's not embarrassing. It's sweet. - I'd like to hear it. 661 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,194 I'd like to hear it as many times 662 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,114 as ACN's run the "I like to fire people" sound bite. 663 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,556 - Everybody ran it, Taylor. - And everybody, including you, 664 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,552 knew what he meant when he said it. 665 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,393 Let's play the game where we identify the food. 666 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,836 - What's this? - You're pointing at rice. 667 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,394 I believe that's correct. 668 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,233 You know, I could tell the story... 669 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,710 - Yep. - ...or we can watch it on YouTube. 670 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,320 Oh, sweet. 671 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,477 I'm starting to feel responsible for this. 672 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,639 What about ACN Morning? 673 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,155 - You think I should go on? - I think you should start there. 674 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,589 I think you need to warm yourself up and a morning show is a great place to start. 675 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,433 Just go on and do some jokes? 676 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,513 Just be you. Nebraska farm boy. 677 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,195 The guy who knows how to build his own cabin. 678 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,073 I don't know how to build my own cabin. 679 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,073 Well, you seem like you do. You need to seem like you do. 680 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,271 Midwestern. You used to steal 681 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,750 your mother's pies when she put them out to cool. 682 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,240 You're confusing me with a hobo. 683 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,312 - You know what I'm saying. - I think I do. 684 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,278 - Then do it. - Okay. 685 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,278 - How about tomorrow morning? - Well, it's after midnight. 686 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,797 ACN is a network built around one person. 687 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,237 You call the EP, tell him you're coming on in the morning. 688 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,279 You'll feel better once you start to turn this around. 689 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,239 - I will feel better. - 75s become 85s fast, 690 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,551 but they become 55s faster. 691 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,960 All right. 692 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,317 That gentleman over there would like to buy this for you. 693 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,954 This is nice of you, but I have to tell you I'm just hanging out alone tonight. 694 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,117 - That's okay. - It's nothing personal. 695 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,395 The drink's on me anyway. 696 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,551 Very kind. Thank you. 697 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,433 - I'm just thinking my thoughts. - Understood. 698 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,312 I have a number of questions. 699 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,110 I'll try to answer them with the same detail and honesty you've always answered mine. 700 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,840 What were you doing on a Sex and the City tour bus to begin with? 701 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,152 My girlfriend at the time liked the show and I was showing an interest in her interests. 702 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,994 And Maggie didn't know you were on the bus when she shouted that she loved you? 703 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,355 That's not what she shouted. 704 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,840 - And she didn't know someone was filming it? - No. 705 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,832 - So it was kind of a gaffe? - Lady, I... 706 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,674 Life and death and you guys can't get past "corporations are people." 707 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,719 How fast are we supposed to get past "Hispanics should self-deport" 708 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,553 or "I'm not concerned with the very poor"? 709 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,314 "There's a safety net there" was the end of that sentence, 710 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,596 and plainly his concern is with the middle class. 711 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,239 The middle class are the very poor. 712 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,358 The better point is we don't need clean air and water regulations. 713 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,274 We don't need FEMA. We don't need antitrust laws. 714 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,513 We don't need the IRS or the Department of Education or the Federal Reserve. 715 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,677 We need freedom. 716 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,720 What the fuck did you just say? 717 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,712 If you listen to Ron Paul... 718 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,031 I have. He's a batty old crank 719 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,158 who wrote instruction manuals on how to get away with shooting the black kid 720 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,197 who's stealing your car. He's not Betty White. 721 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,879 - He didn't write those letters. - Yes, he did. 722 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,031 And then he signed them and then he charged money for them. 723 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,589 So I don't give a shit if he wants to legalize weed. 724 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,637 I can already dial the phone and have an ounce 725 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,234 delivered to this table before the check comes. 726 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,277 - Then for God's sake, do it. - The check will never come. 727 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,113 They won't let Romney get his message out, either. 728 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,237 Someone should tell him if he wants to get his message out, 729 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,880 he should consider appearing on a network 730 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,634 where the entire audience isn't already voting for him 731 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,757 and that if he's gonna be the businessman president, 732 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,072 he should run on his business record instead of pretending he's never heard of it 733 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,119 and that if faith is important to his good works and personal narrative, 734 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,759 he shouldn't be afraid it'll creep us out. 735 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,240 - It's been suggested. - And? 736 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,754 I was fired. 737 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920 - I was fired tonight. - You were fired? 738 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,480 - Yeah. - For suggesting... 739 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,120 No, I suggested other things, too. 740 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,394 I'm sorry. 741 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,952 You were a good spokesperson for him. 742 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,271 You should go work for Ron Paul. 743 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,114 We need to rebound from dinner. 744 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,600 - Yeah. - Bounce back. 745 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,637 - I've already bounced. - It's just us now. 746 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,871 With a little over six hours. 747 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,400 This is... 748 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,235 Maggie? 749 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,877 - Hi. - What are you doing here? 750 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,919 I'm just having a drink with a friend of mine from college. 751 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,878 What are you doing here? 752 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,675 Jim's fixing my computer. I'm staying here. 753 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,037 This is Hallie Shea. Hallie, this is Maggie Jordan. 754 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720 - Hi. You, too. - It's nice to meet you. 755 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,754 Well, we should... 756 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,277 - I have to be on the press plane pretty early. - Yeah. 757 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,232 - Good meeting you. - You, too. 758 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,879 See you later. 759 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,993 - That was nice of you. - I doubt it mattered. 760 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,750 Wow. 761 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,160 Is there something wrong with the room? 762 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,873 I am not unskilled in the ways of courtship. 763 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,351 I know, babe, but still, just saying that... 764 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,072 I am pouring you some champagne 765 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,356 and then taking a hot shower. 766 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,433 Can I offer you a Toblerone from the minibar? 767 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,996 - Honey. - What is it? 768 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,994 They just added on an event at a base in Colorado for the morning. 769 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,480 For tomorrow morning? 770 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,791 I have to be on a plane in 90 minutes. 771 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,795 Are you religious? 772 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,480 - In my way. - Me, too. 773 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,111 I think the way you know you've broken one of God's rules 774 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:19,199 is if you can't put it back together again. 775 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,116 You kidnap an entire people, 776 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,590 make them slaves, it's 300 years later 777 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,239 and we can't put it back together again. 778 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,959 You and Will? 779 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,713 Doesn't really seem like the same scale. 780 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,156 - As slavery? - Yeah. 781 00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:33,560 - No. 782 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,113 But here we are. 783 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,713 - You should go out. - I do. 784 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,916 You'll meet someone. 785 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,714 You're sure you trust Jerry? 786 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,473 I have no reason not to. 787 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,191 Mac, if Charlie green lights it and Will and the lawyers, 788 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,919 you still have to consider not running it. 789 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,878 - I know. - The size of this... 790 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,838 - I've thought about the risk. - Embassies will be attacked. 791 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,400 - POWs will... - There'll be protests. 792 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,073 Protests in some countries look a lot like riots. 793 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,435 Muslims will go crazy. 794 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,557 I was at Newsweek in 2005. 795 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,477 For the guy who flushed a Koran down the toilet? 796 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,279 Yeah. We report the story 797 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,238 and two months later, the London subway blows up. 798 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,516 - It's not clear the two were connected. - The bomber's cousin said... 799 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,553 - Somebody was gonna report it. - Ah, maybe not. 800 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,600 Maybe not. 801 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,960 Anyway, I hope you're considering cause and effect, 802 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,679 'cause if we broke one of God's rules, 803 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,991 it might be best just to shut up about it. 804 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,272 Where's your friend? 805 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,194 Oh, she took off. I'm just paying the check. 806 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,151 Did you fix her computer? 807 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:01,471 No, I wasn't really able to. 808 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,792 Because you don't know shit about fixing computers? 809 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,512 This thing we've been talking about, 810 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,637 - Jerry's thing... - Yeah? 811 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,909 Secrecy is incredibly important. 812 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,751 I've been working on it for seven months and you didn't hear about it, right? 813 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,593 - Yeah. - Okay. 814 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,354 Just be careful when you're drinking. 815 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,680 I will. 816 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,555 - Hey, you ready to go? - Yeah. 817 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,872 I think you're supposed to be paying the check. 818 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,713 She's all covered. 819 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,876 And you were a high school athlete. 820 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,996 That's right. 821 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,673 There's another thing we didn't know about you. 822 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,036 Baseball and football. Pitcher and quarterback. 823 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,919 - It was a small school. - The question is were you any good? 824 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,596 - I wasn't bad. - Well, we're gonna find out right now. 825 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,796 - Uh-oh. 826 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,717 We're gonna have you stand on this line and make five throws. 827 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,599 Every throw that goes through the tire is $1,000 828 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,558 to the Sloan-Kettering Memorial Cancer Research Center. 829 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,915 It seems like cancer research 830 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,559 shouldn't have to depend on my throwing accuracy. 831 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,996 - Come on now, don't chicken out, McAvoy. - All right. 832 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,152 Wait, there's one more piece of apparatus. 833 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:26,993 I don't think I'm gonna need a helmet, 834 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,474 - unless you guys plan on... - Oh, it's just for fun. 835 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,597 It's a morning show. We have fun here. 836 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,672 - Yeah, all right. - There it is. 837 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,234 All right, this is for cancer research. 838 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,152 On the line. 839 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:37,879 On your mark. Get... 840 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,831 I know you think it went badly, but it didn't. 841 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,036 I have to do two things... 842 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,152 I have to write a huge check to Sloan-Kettering 843 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,197 and then I absolutely have to break up with you. 844 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,749 They're both important. I get why the first one has to come first, 845 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,117 but the second one has to come right after, no delay. 846 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,955 Why didn't you just say I shouldn't worry about the number? 847 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,599 Because you should. 848 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,718 I was aiming for the fucking light tree. 849 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,192 You didn't care that you scored in the high 90s 850 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,397 in trust and intelligence? 851 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,439 - You looked like Dukakis riding in the tank. - I know. 852 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,080 I've done a comprehensive study on your psychological profile. 853 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,800 "Introduction to First Year Adult Psychology." 854 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,952 I haven't read the whole thing, but I read from page eight to... 855 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,157 Well, I've read most of page eight. 856 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,799 And here's what happened to you. 857 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,633 A long, long time ago, 858 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:34,518 you were doing a show you liked with MacKenzie. 859 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,796 Then she broke your heart. Then you started doing a different show. 860 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,918 A softer show. A show built around your likeable personality. 861 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,310 And the love you got from the audience filled, almost, 862 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,039 the hole in your heart. 863 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,909 You're happy from 8:00 to 9:00 and miserable the other 23 hours. 864 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,469 You feel more comfortable with strangers than with friends. 865 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,472 Then suddenly Mackie's back in town 866 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,069 and she's making you do the show you're supposed to be doing 867 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,790 and she insists that you and everyone else do the news, and you like that. 868 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,832 But that does mean you might lose 869 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,151 some of your invisible friends. That sound about right? 870 00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,880 - I don't believe it really said that in the book. - I extrapolated. 871 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,953 You gonna tell me I'm supposed to love myself before anyone else can love me? 872 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,671 "Self-love, my liege, is not so vile a sin as self-neglecting." 873 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,672 I read page eight of Shakespeare, too. 874 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,356 "A woman is like a tea bag. You can't tell how strong she is until you put her in hot water." 875 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,999 - Who said that? - Eleanor Roosevelt. 876 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,400 - Does that have anything to do with this? - No. 877 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,954 Okay. 878 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,357 That's it? I thought I was getting chewed out. 879 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,955 I can't say anything that would make you feel worse than you do right now. 880 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,111 - I like that you know that. - You know what a Goldilocks planet is? 881 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,274 It's a planet with the potential to support life because of its proximity to a star. 882 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,714 - Not too hot, not too cold. - Right. 883 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,598 Near liquid water, but not made of liquid water. 884 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,194 Enough oxygen, but not too much nitrogen. 885 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,636 And we use something... 886 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,033 - Transit spectroscopy. - I think that's what it's called. 887 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,351 To analyze the atmosphere and find planets 888 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,999 that match the different requirements. 889 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,073 1,300 planets were identified, but only two confirmed. 890 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,873 And of those two, 891 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,429 one turned out to be something. 892 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,034 - Radioactive. - Yeah. 893 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,589 So right now that leaves one planet 894 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,036 in all of space that's perfect. 895 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,357 You're talking about what I think you're talking about, right? 896 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,954 - I probably am. - All right. 897 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,110 Okay. 898 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,998 How'd the date with the Giant go last night? 899 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,231 Not that good. He ditched me around midnight. 900 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,915 But I did end up dancing with Savannah Guthrie for a while. 901 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,754 That girl can dance. Have you seen the sheer length of her legs? 902 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,591 I embarrassed the whole team this morning and I'm sorry. 903 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,160 It won't happen again. 904 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,670 I love you, Will. 905 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,394 Thanks, sis. 906 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,960 - You look tired. - I'm not. 907 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,072 - When'd you get in? - On the first shuttle. 908 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,879 What are we going to do about the screen? 909 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,832 Oh, it has to be on. It's a condition. 910 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,520 I can't frame it out. There's gonna be a piece of the game in the shot. 911 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,114 We're gonna blur it out. 912 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,112 Why not just move the chair? 913 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,271 I want the hardware for gravitas. 914 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,795 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. 915 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,032 - General. - Let me just see what's going on here. 916 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,040 It's a good game. 917 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,353 - Jerry Dantana? - Yes, sir. 918 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,591 This is Maggie Jordan. She's also a producer on the story. 919 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,080 She'll be leaving before we start. 920 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,640 No, she's a producer on the story. 921 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,758 - She understands... - I was told Jerry Dantana. 922 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,196 Sir... 923 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,512 Charlie Skinner and MacKenzie McHale told me Jerry Dantana, 924 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,752 and Jerry Dantana is who I had investigated, 925 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,638 not Maggie Jordan. 926 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:27,959 - Um... - It's all right. I'll wait outside. 927 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,680 Just check your levels once in a while. 928 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,835 Fellas, you all set? 929 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,310 - Yeah. - Okay, could you wait outside? 930 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,796 Mmm. 931 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,031 You can sit right there, sir. 932 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,720 You understand we're going to ask about Operation Genoa 933 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,837 - and that it was a classified mission? - Yes. 934 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,072 Okay, you're all set. 935 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,072 I'm stepping out. 936 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,639 And you're going to confirm it happened. 937 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,120 It happened. 938 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,316 What was Operation Genoa? 939 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,720 An extraction. 940 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,510 Two Marines were taken by the enemy and I won't say more than that. 941 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,398 Who carried out the extraction? 942 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,040 MARSOC, Marines Special Operations Command. 943 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,635 Were any exceptional measures used in the operation? 944 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,752 Exceptional measures were called for. 945 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,320 Were they used? 946 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,710 General? 947 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,759 - Was sarin gas used during Genoa? - It is right. 948 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,038 It is moral and necessary to use any means in that situation, 949 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,510 in the situation they were in, to use the means 950 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,717 at your disposal to rescue captured prisoners. 951 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,713 - Did we use sarin gas? - If we used sarin, let me put it this way. 952 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,837 - Sir. - Here's how we would have used sarin. 953 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,360 I'd like to get to the logistics in a moment, 954 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,558 but right now I'm asking you if we used sarin gas. 955 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,075 If we used sarin... 956 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,753 - General... - Listen to me. 957 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,232 If we used sarin, here's how we used sarin. 958 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,595 It would have been stockpiled in a depot in Okinawa. 959 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,433 That's first. It was guarded... 960 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,675 - Two Marines... 961 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,112 ...we used sarin gas? - If we used sarin... 962 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:19,720 - General... - Listen to me. 963 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,397 If we used sarin, here's how we used sarin. 964 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,797 If we used sarin, here's how we used sarin. 965 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,635 ...how we used sarin. 966 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,112 ...we used sarin. 967 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,471 It is right. It is moral and... 968 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,553 It is moral and... 969 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,280 Who carried out the extraction? 970 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,558 MARSOC, Marines Special Operations Command. 971 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,472 Did we use sarin gas? 972 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,313 We used sarin. 973 00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,800 And how is that used? 974 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,554 Here's how we used sarin. 975 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,634 It would have been stockpiled... 976 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,189 - I want to see the raw footage. - Yeah. 977 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,720 Here we go. 978 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,952 Were any exceptional measures used in the operation? 979 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,918 Exceptional measures were called for. 980 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,235 Like what? 981 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:29,754 We used sarin. 982 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,230 It is right. It is moral and... 983 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,680 We're not there yet. 984 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,031 - You're joking, right? - It's compelling film. 985 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,236 Compelling? 986 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,800 When Mac and I showed up at his house yesterday, 987 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,837 he'd forgotten he'd talked to us on the phone. 988 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,355 He thought we were selling magazine subscriptions. 989 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,511 He wasn't being asked about... 990 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,592 Did it seem to you like he was shaky during... 991 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,194 I want another witness. 992 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,192 - We have our key witness. - He wasn't there. 993 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,794 - He knew about it. - Didn't remember we'd called. 994 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,599 - He didn't remember at first, right? - Jerry... 995 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,878 We've got evidence of a war crime. Just sit with that for a second. 996 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,478 We dropped sarin gas on a village. 997 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,037 We have a moral imperative to question 998 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,476 the flagrant disregard with which the president 999 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,119 and the national security establishment 1000 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,715 treat the Constitution and international laws. 1001 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,234 What does this have to do with the Constitution? 1002 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,716 We've killed four American citizens without due process. 1003 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,234 And those are the ones we know about. 1004 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,155 Five times as many drone strikes as the entire Bush presidency. 1005 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:32,393 Dramatically increased wiretapping, detentions, prosecuting whistle blowers, 1006 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,870 several of whom are willing to go on camera for us. 1007 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,957 - What your problem is... - Careful, Jerry. 1008 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,396 ...is that you like him. You like this president. 1009 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,949 You trust him. Go ahead, we trust you. 1010 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,192 Chase Nielsen flew the Doolittle Raid after Pearl Harbor 1011 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,158 and got water boarded by the Japanese, 1012 00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:49,596 and we executed the Japanese soldiers who did it! 1013 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,353 What the fuck is going on? 1014 00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:52,756 We have it. 1015 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,433 How long before you're comfortable? 1016 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,836 Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum suspended his campaign for the presidency... 1017 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,310 President Obama told ABC News' Robin Roberts 1018 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,790 that same-sex couples should be able to get married. 1019 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,917 Texas Representative Ron Paul said today 1020 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,879 that he will stop actively campaigning in the Republican primaries. 1021 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,758 And now, thanks to the Lone Star State, 1022 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,116 Governor Romney can officially drop the word "presumptive." 1023 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,431 Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker is still the governor... 1024 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,159 Chick-Fil-A's president, Dan Cathy said, 1025 00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:23,630 "I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation." 1026 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:25,791 The White House is exercising executive privilege 1027 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,440 over documents requested by the House Oversight Committee 1028 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,318 in its investigation of "Fast and Furious." 1029 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,596 Chief Justice John Roberts... ...wrote the majority opinion 1030 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,353 in the historic 5-4 decision. 1031 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,194 The constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act has been challenged... 1032 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,795 With eight weeks left until the Republican National Convention in Tampa, 1033 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,475 speculation has turned to Governor Romney's choice of running mate. 1034 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,552 ...introduced Representative Paul Ryan, 1035 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,519 one of the Republican party's young conservative leaders as his running mate. 1036 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,399 Representative Todd Akin, who won Missouri's GOP Senate primary 1037 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,791 earlier this month, and who will face Democratic incumbent Claire McCaskill, 1038 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,349 said Sunday that he misspoke when he claimed "legitimate rape"... 1039 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,512 With three days to go before delegates converge on Tampa Bay, Florida, 1040 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,910 GOP officials are moving forward with their plans 1041 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,720 to kick off the Republican National Convention on Monday, 1042 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,480 despite the looming threat of Tropical Storm Isaac. 1043 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,270 The storm is currently headed for Haiti. 1044 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,831 I'm gonna ask you to hold on just a second, please. 1045 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,120 Lance Corporal Herman Valenzuela is on the phone. 1046 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,393 Valenzuela is dead. 1047 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,236 No, he's not. He's on the phone. 1048 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,718 How'd you get that wrong? 1049 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,794 There were two Herman Valenzuelas. Both lance corporals. 1050 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,439 One was killed in action. 1051 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,557 Why were you calling him if you thought he was dead? 1052 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,280 The messages were left for him before we got the service records. 1053 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,750 We stopped calling, but he'd been deployed. 1054 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,400 And when he got home, he got our messages and returned our call. 1055 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,153 And that's when you gave the green light? 1056 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,038 We had Sweeney, we had Hamni8... 1057 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,879 - Charlie. - ...we had the report from the NGO, 1058 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,673 - we had my source... - Who you won't reveal. 1059 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,035 ...we had the helo manifest, 1060 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,351 we had Valenzuela who was the crew chief. 1061 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,560 We had a story that the US used sarin gas on a village in Pakistan and we went. 1062 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,710 Anybody would have. 1063 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,110 Most people would have gone months earlier. 1064 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,991 To not go would have been to participate in the biggest cover-up since... 1065 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,597 These were war crimes. 1066 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,879 It was a Sunday special report. 9:00 p.m. Eastern. 1067 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,714 Nielsen tracking showed it was gonna be a monster audience, 1068 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,553 three and a half, four million. 1069 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,836 It ended up closer to six. 1070 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,315 By 10:05, I knew we had a problem. 1071 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,432 None of it was true.