1 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:27,154 I need some kind of sign from you. I need an indication, 2 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,476 - some kind of indication, that you... - What? 3 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,911 ...fully understand the stupidity of this. 4 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,390 - I do. - Doesn't feel like it. 5 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,437 How would you like me to behave? 6 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,036 It feels to me... I have to say, it feels to me like you think this is nuance, 7 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,072 that you think there are layers that have to be explored. 8 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,116 Why do you say that? 9 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,510 Well, for one thing, there's four lawyers in the room 10 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,718 billing out at, I don't know. I'm sure you're worth it. 11 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,190 And you've been here five days. This is your fifth day. 12 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,829 But that's my point. Why do we need lawyers who are worth it? 13 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,640 Why do we need lawyers? Why do we need lawyers? 14 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,195 - You're being sued. - And you're saying that like it's not insane. 15 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,351 You're saying that like it isn't... 16 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,836 Tell me what I'm missing. 17 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,794 A producer comes up from DC. 18 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,951 He wants to make a name for himself in New York. 19 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,795 He chases a story that's not there. And the story, it's not a kitten up a tree. 20 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,952 Chemical weapons, sarin gas on civilians. 21 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,750 He cooks an interview. He takes a pair of scissors to raw footage. 22 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,274 Of a man on the street? 23 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,716 Of a retired, three-star Marine general. 24 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,839 We go to air. 48 hours it takes for the story to come undone 25 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,280 and with it Atlantis Cable News. 26 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,192 ACN is brought to its knees. 27 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,193 The producer's surgical strike is discovered and the producer is fired. 28 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,999 Does he write an open letter to the New York Times, 29 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,639 apologizing to the public, his colleagues, 30 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,797 the three-star general, and the US Armed Forces? 31 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,634 No, he sues us for wrongful termination. 32 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,315 And I need to know, I need some kind of sign from you, Rebecca, 33 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,914 because you're obviously, all four of you, 34 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,231 you can't be stupid and afford haircuts this good. 35 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,757 I need you to tell me that this is exactly as insane as it is. 36 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,196 I'm afraid I'm going to have to infuriate you. 37 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,951 - Why? - Because it is nuanced. 38 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,999 He cooked an interview. He took pruning shears to the raw... 39 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,993 Rebecca, if he doused the studio in kerosene 40 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,760 and lit a tiki torch, it wouldn't have done as much damage as Genoa, 41 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,435 so where is the complexity? Where is the nuance? 42 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,913 His claim is he's a scapegoat. 43 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,275 - That's his claim? - Yeah. 44 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,439 I understand why he'd feel that way, because it was entirely his fault. 45 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,433 And if it was entirely his fault, then it's not at all anyone else's. 46 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,954 It was not at all anyone else's. 47 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,520 That's where the plaintiff disagrees. 48 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:26,950 And if Dantana was being offered as a sacrifice to the gods... 49 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,760 - Oh, Rebecca. - And it was an institutional failure 50 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,877 - that led to the airing of Genoa... - I'm gonna eat this table. 51 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,034 And he is paying the price for mistakes that were made above him. 52 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,391 This isn't an original story, Don. 53 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,472 - He cooked... - That's the nuance. 54 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,439 The nuance is he's gonna leverage the public's inexhaustible love 55 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,795 of big shots falling down. 56 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,077 Charlie, Will, and Mac. 57 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,560 I know how this ends. 58 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,951 Why is it called a red team? 59 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,871 - The blood cells. - Hmm? 60 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,955 White blood cells attack an infection, red blood cells clean it up. 61 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,600 You have a group of people investigating a story, they're the white team. 62 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,632 Other people are purposely kept out of the loop 63 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,234 so that when the white team is ready, they can... 64 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,232 - Fresh eyes. - We're supposed to poke holes in it. 65 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,073 - And were you able to? - Were we... 66 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,117 The first red team. You, 67 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,151 Jim Harper, Sloan Sabbith. 68 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,913 Was anyone able to poke holes in it? 69 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,755 No. Other than the made-up interview, it was a solid story. 70 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:23,274 I'm just asking if you were able to poke holes in it. 71 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,079 This is exactly what I'm talking about. What does it matter? 72 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,429 It matters. 73 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,519 It matters because there were holes in the story, right? 74 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,796 - Yeah. - Now, Don, a ton of them, right? 75 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,712 - We didn't see the holes because... - Ah. 76 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,878 That's institutional failure, right? 77 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,239 You don't have to answer that. In fact, don't. 78 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,555 I can. 79 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,872 First red team meeting was seven months ago. 80 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,280 Charlie wants more evidence. 81 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,432 Second red team meeting, you have Stomtonovich now. 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,995 - Charlie still wants more evidence. - That's not diligent? 83 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,072 Third red team meeting, you have Valenzuela now 84 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,833 and Charlie green-lights Genoa. 85 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,480 And I'm asking you, other than the cooked tape, Mrs. Lincoln, 86 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,074 were there any holes in the story? 87 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,718 - Yes. - But you didn't find any of them. 88 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,393 We found all of them. 89 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:07,710 And I grant you it would've been better 90 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,234 if we found them before the story aired. 91 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,755 - You'll grant me that. - He digitally remastered an interview. 92 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:15,834 That is the all of it. That's it. There was no institutional failure. 93 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,553 Where was the third red team meeting? 94 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,991 Where did Charlie give the green light? 95 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,720 It was right in this room. 96 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:26,197 This is an interview with Gunnery Sergeant Eric Sweeney, 97 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:29,000 the first member of the Genoa crew to come forward. 98 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,231 It was recorded in September of last year. 99 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,437 The third red team meeting, red team three, 100 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,314 we were all walked through the evidence again. 101 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,955 One, Jerry gets a tip from Cyrus West, 102 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,555 a retired Air Force captain who had just appeared on News Night 103 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,756 in support of drone strikes. 104 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,914 Cyrus West is known among people I know as a guy with ambition. 105 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,912 What kind of ambition? 106 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,469 Congress, Dancing With the Stars, I don't know. 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,319 But you have to take what he said with a salt lick. 108 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,114 Did you warn anyone about that? 109 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,274 I couldn't. I wasn't in the loop. 110 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,953 You also weren't in New York. 111 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,600 I was in New Hampshire with the Romney campaign at the time. 112 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,036 - Why? - I was covering for our embed, 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,873 a guy named Ben Furusho who'd hurt himself. 114 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,360 - How'd he hurt himself? - Ben? 115 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,318 - Yeah. - Mark is asking did he hurt himself 116 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,119 saving people from a burning building? 117 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:13,556 No, he got drunk and tried to jump 118 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,394 from his second-floor balcony into the pool at the Nashua Holiday Inn. 119 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,433 Were you the only one available to cover for him? 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:20,636 No. 121 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,677 Were you the only one qualified to cover for him? 122 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:23,750 No. 123 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:25,513 Who made the decision you should cover for him? 124 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,399 - I did. - You sent yourself to New Hampshire? 125 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,392 I think you know what these guys are getting at. 126 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,800 There is a woman I work with. 127 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,952 Maggie Jordan. We don't have to make this excruciating. 128 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,520 You had a relationship with a coworker. 129 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,590 It wasn't a relationship. 130 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,354 You had something with Maggie, 131 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,511 but she was living with Don and your heart was a little dinged up, 132 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,875 so you wanted to get out of town for a while 133 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,758 and that's why you weren't available to do your job, 134 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:52,071 which at that moment included saying to MacKenzie, 135 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,038 "Don't trust Cyrus West." 136 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,874 What is it Jerry's counting on? 137 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,077 That you guys don't want stories like that made public. 138 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,276 Go back to red team three. 139 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,272 Genoa got on the air because I was distracted? 140 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,396 Go back. 141 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,391 One, Jerry gets the tip from Cyrus West. The tip leads him to Eric Sweeney. That's two. 142 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,516 Here's the Sweeney interview. 143 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,279 Would you say your name, rank, and your last billet? 144 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,714 Gunnery Sergeant Eric Sweeney. 145 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,159 Before my discharge, I was stationed with a MARSOC unit in J-bad. 146 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,755 That's Marine Special Operations Command in Jalalabad? 147 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,240 Yes, sir. 148 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,035 Have you ever heard of a black op called Genoa? 149 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,270 Yes, sir. 150 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,670 Did you participate in that black op? 151 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,874 This was maybe the hundredth time I'd seen the Sweeney interview. 152 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,435 Intel had location on two Marine POWs 153 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,950 who'd been separated from their unit three days earlier 154 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,316 during a firefight in the Hindu Kush. 155 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,437 They'd been smuggled across the border 156 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,637 and the Pakistani Taliban intended to sell them 157 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:46,995 for propaganda purposes. 158 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,549 What does "propaganda purposes" mean? 159 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,114 They were gonna be publically beheaded. 160 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,596 And if we didn't get them before they were moved again, we'd lose them. 161 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,160 Operation Genoa was an extraction. 162 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,391 A MARSOC unit flies in on a couple of Black Hawks 163 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,234 and grabs our guys, but the first unit was overrun 164 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,552 and the second unit, the story goes, 165 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,080 dropped sarin gas. 166 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,753 Suddenly I'm tripping over people screaming. 167 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Boils and burns on their bodies. Some of them passed out. 168 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,074 What did you think was in the missile? 169 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,232 I wasn't sure, but I didn't have time to think about it until we were out of there. 170 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,789 So later I'm talking to the crew, I'm asking about the weapons package. 171 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,314 Why'd the white phosphorus do that? 172 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,629 And the guy said it wasn't the Willie Pete. 173 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,918 I said, "What was it?" He said, "Sarin." 174 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,160 Will was the only one in the room who hadn't heard the story before. 175 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,315 I looked over to see what his first reaction was going to be. 176 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,993 And the guy said it wasn't the Willie Pete. 177 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,357 I said, "What was it?" He said, "Sarin." 178 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,477 There was no expression. 179 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,271 Cyrus West, Eric Sweeney, that's one and two. 180 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,678 The tweets from Hamni8 were three. 181 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,717 Four was Leon Deit and the NGO report. 182 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,439 Five was Charlie's source who handed over the helo manifest. 183 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,194 This is a list of every weapon the Black Hawks were carrying, 184 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,875 or at least one of the two Black Hawks. 185 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,110 MX-76. 186 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,759 Five munitions experts say there's no such thing. 187 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,151 It's what you write in that spot when your payload is codeword-classified. 188 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,350 That's the sarin. 189 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,671 Charlie's source was our fifth piece of evidence. 190 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,592 Were you happy with the evidence so far? 191 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,233 - Was I? - Yeah. 192 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,879 Rebecca, I run our website. I'm not an investigative reporter. 193 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,475 Yeah, I'm just asking how you felt about the evidence so far. 194 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,199 I'm not qualified to judge the evidence. 195 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,039 You were on the Genoa team? 196 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,395 - Yeah. - You were put on the team? 197 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,550 - Yes. Yes. - Neal. 198 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:25,710 Don't ever fucking say out loud 199 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,314 that you are unqualified to judge the evidence. 200 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,669 - Wait... - Don't ever say it again. 201 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,150 I was absolutely qualified to chase the Hamni8 tweets, 202 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,840 - which was my job on the team. - I get that. You get that. 203 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,311 They get that. Let's quit while we're ahead. 204 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,234 Five was Charlie's source with the helo manifest. 205 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,353 Six was Stomtonovich. 206 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,399 At the time of Genoa, we still had sarin gas. Is that right? 207 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,432 - Yes, we did. - You're sure of this? 208 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,600 We had sarin gas at the time of Genoa and we have sarin today. 209 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:54,070 According to the OPCW, the US was scheduled 210 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,358 to have completed its destruction of chemical weapons by 2007. 211 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,590 The US missed that deadline. 212 00:09:58,680 --> 00:09:59,909 Stop the tape, please. 213 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:04,034 What are we gonna do about the basketball game? 214 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,470 We'll blur it out. 215 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:07,438 Why was the interview conducted in front of a game? 216 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,718 - He wanted it on. - Why not move his chair? 217 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,598 I wanted the Marine paraphernalia in the shot, 218 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:14,512 but to get that, I couldn't frame out the screen, 219 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,115 which I knew I could take out later. Is this important? 220 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,513 Still no reaction from Will. 221 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,349 Stomtonovich was six and then Valenzuela was seven. 222 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,274 I conducted the interview with Lance Corporal Herman Valenzuela 223 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,398 on August 22, the day before yesterday. 224 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,159 - Here it is. 225 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,436 Did you use gas on the mission? 226 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:38,279 Valenzuela, the crew chief on board 227 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,239 one of the two MARSOC helos, confirms everything we've been told by West, 228 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,840 Sweeney, and Stomtonovich, 229 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,960 all of which is consistent with the tweets from Hamni8, 230 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,073 the Leon Deit report and Charlie's source with the helo manifest. 231 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:51,040 The presentation is over 232 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,396 and Will's just heard everything for the first time. 233 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,190 This is what's been happening for the last 11 months. 234 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,999 Yeah, I had a hunch. 235 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:00,994 You did? 236 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,560 I heard the same story. 237 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,477 That came as kind of a shock to everybody. 238 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,155 Like Charlie's source, Will was only able to identify 239 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,835 him or her as reliable and in a position to know. 240 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:19,990 At that moment... 241 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,992 I know what you're gonna ask and it doesn't matter. 242 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,356 Sloan, at that moment, did anyone in the room... 243 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,591 You've got everyone, you've got the president of the news division, 244 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:29,195 the editor and anchor in chief, the EP, 245 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,999 - senior producer, staff. - It didn't matter. 246 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,237 Did anyone at that moment think to ask 247 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,358 if Charlie's source and Will's source were the same person? 248 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,869 It didn't matter. 249 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,189 - Did anyone... - It was already a go. 250 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,714 Will's source was just extra. 251 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,271 It didn't make you feel more confident that Will had heard it, too? 252 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,631 - Yes. - Did anyone ask? 253 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,750 No. 254 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,514 How many more times did you review the evidence? 255 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,676 I'm not sure. 256 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,992 We went through the whole thing maybe four more times. 257 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,315 I'm ready to say go. 258 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,833 You know how I feel. 259 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:06,956 - I'm convinced. - I'm not. 260 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,070 - I know. - Mac. 261 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,640 Tell me why. 262 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,875 It just doesn't feel right. 263 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,879 11 months of reporting versus your gut? I'll take the reporting. 264 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,430 - I'd take Jim's gut. - Me, too. 265 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,477 You worship at the altar of logic and reason. 266 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,474 And I don't believe this many people could keep something like this a secret. 267 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:25,438 - Well, they didn't. - Jerry, I know these guys. 268 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,399 Due respect, Jim, but you fetishize these guys. 269 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,712 Two million men and women in the armed services. 270 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,320 You were embedded with a couple of units. 271 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,278 - You know a few of these guys. - Hang on. 272 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,431 I don't think it's fetishizing to admire people 273 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,557 who signed up to fight a couple of wars that neither one of us 274 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,280 wanted to dirty our hands with, but I do give them the benefit of the doubt. 275 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,352 I gave them the benefit of the doubt, too, until I saw pictures 276 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,272 of what's-her-name doing the "get this" pose 277 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,319 next to prisoners in dog collars wired to car batteries. 278 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,595 It doesn't feel right? 279 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:53,071 We've tortured, drowned, wiretapped, renditioned, and suspended due process, 280 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,999 but you think we drew a moral and legal line someplace? 281 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,753 - Are you one of the Andrews Sisters? - All right. 282 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,109 It doesn't feel right because... 283 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,112 It doesn't feel right because I was the one leading the team. 284 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,793 I'm sure that's not what Jim was gonna say. 285 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,360 No, it's exactly what I was going to say. 286 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,318 What's your concern with me? 287 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,073 My concern is that I don't know you. 288 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,230 Well, that's a lame reason. 289 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,835 No, right now he's being paid to be skeptical. 290 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,513 I didn't show up one day. 291 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,796 I've been working at the DC bureau for eight years. 292 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,475 We may be the ugly stepsister, but it worked for you, too, Charlie. 293 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,756 - Don. - When Jim doesn't feel good about a story, 294 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,593 I take it seriously. 295 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:25,070 But I have another concern which Mac and I talked about last March. 296 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,510 - Do you remember this? - Yeah. Safety. 297 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,159 Isn't there a chance we're putting soldiers in danger? 298 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,640 - Yes. - Even rioting. 299 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,951 Plus the "get this" pictures with the dog collars 300 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,595 was the single best recruiting tool al-Qaeda's ever had. 301 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:38,718 You're saying don't run a story about the use of chemical weapons 302 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,519 - because it might be dangerous? - I am. 303 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,990 But the chemical weapons, they're not dangerous? 304 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,309 I'm saying the needs of the many... 305 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,629 It's the protests that we should be worried about? 306 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,831 I also think we should consider there's an election going on. 307 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,673 You think we shouldn't run it until after November? 308 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,319 I think we should wait until we're sure. 309 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,073 We are sure. You just don't like the story. 310 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,391 "It is illegal to develop, produce, 311 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,593 "otherwise acquire, transfer directly or indirectly, 312 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:01,991 "receive, stockpile, retain, own, possess, or use 313 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,640 "or threaten to use any chemical weapon. 314 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,958 "Any person who violates section 229 of this title 315 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,794 "and by whose action the death of another person is the result 316 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,270 "shall be punished by death or imprisoned for life." 317 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,512 That's not the Geneva Conventions, that's US federal law. 318 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,840 Whose case are you arguing? 319 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,670 I'm just making sure we know what we're accusing these guys of. 320 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,798 Who, by the way, rescued two Marines while taking heavy fire. 321 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,031 If these guys are charged, there could be riots here at home, too. 322 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,476 - God, Don, just stay in your house. - Okay. 323 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,120 Will? 324 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,832 He sat there a long time before he said... 325 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,077 I trust Charlie and Mac. 326 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,112 All right, we're going. 327 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,192 Lock it down. 328 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,234 15 seconds. Stand by roll-in. 329 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,549 - Stand by. - Standing. 330 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,074 - G118. - Standing. 331 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,356 - Ready roll-in. - Here we go, Will. 332 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,591 And roll in. 333 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,718 We've been at war with al-Qaeda and its allies for over 10 years. 334 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,193 War demands sacrifice. Sometimes of liberty, sometimes of livelihood 335 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,873 and sometimes of life. 336 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,276 But does it require us to abandon the principles 337 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,354 for which we're fighting and inch by inch resemble more the enemy we fight? 338 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,795 As Alfred Adler once said, "It is easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them." 339 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,590 This is ACN Reports and tonight we tell you the story of Operation Genoa, 340 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,593 a made-for-Hollywood tale of a daring rescue mission. 341 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,394 It's to you to decide if the mission was a success. 342 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,871 Our report begins with a firefight in Afghanistan's Hindu Kush 343 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,356 that separated two Marines from their pinned-down unit. 344 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,880 Go three. 345 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,919 The mountains of the Hindu Kush have been violent tribal areas 346 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,353 since before Alexander the Great marched through Persia on his way to India. 347 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,753 On one dangerous night in March 2009, two young Marines were on patrol... 348 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,799 Intelligence they were gonna be smuggled across the border by Pakistani Taliban. 349 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,475 - And what else did the intelligence tell you? - There was a ticking clock. 350 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,552 We knew they were gonna be sold for propaganda purposes. 351 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,234 - Sold to al-Qaeda? - Yes. 352 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,834 - In a matter of days? - Hours, really. 353 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,998 According to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons... 354 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,073 Ready 17. Stand by 19 through 22A. 355 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,756 Standing. 356 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,111 But we sat down with a Marine three-star general, 357 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,711 an expert in chemical weapons with knowledge of Operation Genoa. 358 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,118 At his request, we blacked out his face and electronically altered his voice. 359 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,190 Go 17. 360 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,000 According to the OPCW, 361 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,117 the US was scheduled to have completed its destruction 362 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,192 of chemical weapons by 2007. 363 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,039 The US missed that deadline. 364 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,670 They extended it to 2012 and they missed that deadline, too. 365 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,952 At the time of Genoa, we destroyed at least 87%... 366 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,352 We asked if any exceptional measures were used in the operation. 367 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,558 Exceptional measures were called for. 368 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,155 We asked if sarin gas was used. 369 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,919 We used sarin. 370 00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:12,397 A crew chief from the operation speaks to us 371 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,234 when ACN Reports returns right after this. 372 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,638 What are your duties as crew chief? 373 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,791 I'm in charge of the crew and the equipment. 374 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,156 Do you oversee the loading of the helicopter, the payload? 375 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,792 Yes, during preflight, I'd be responsible for the payload. 376 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,911 ...being roughly 7,500 tons of sarin. 377 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:27,113 The Pentagon declined our request for an interview. 378 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,274 For everyone at ACN Reports, I'm Will McAvoy. Good night. 379 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:39,994 Are you here for a call? 380 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,037 Congratulations? 381 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:45,352 General Stomtonovich. Charlie, he's screaming. 382 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,191 He says he never said they used sarin. 383 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,270 It's on film. 384 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,591 - He says he never said that. - It's on film. 385 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,151 - I knew this would happen. - It happens all the time. 386 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,671 These guys get cold feet or someone at the DOD begs them to recant. 387 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:02,750 What's he saying we did? 388 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,315 Edited him out of context. 389 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,153 - Did you tell him we have the raw footage? - Yeah. 390 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,277 Raw footage isn't edited out of context. 391 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:10,158 - It isn't edited at all. - I told him that. 392 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,039 - What did he say? - He said he was gonna kill me. 393 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,669 Did he say it the way Mac says it to me or did it seem like he meant it? 394 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,230 - I mean it when I say it to you. - He was very upset. 395 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,391 Tell him I'm gonna go right now to look at the raw interview again 396 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,278 and that he can look at it with me if he wants. 397 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,910 All right. 398 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,117 - We knew things were gonna happen. - Yeah. 399 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,519 Chemical weapons expert wants to kill me. I make the worst enemies. 400 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,115 Seriously, I'm a perfectly nice guy. 401 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,669 People are celebrating out there. 402 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,559 - Yeah, I'm coming out. - Who's playing? 403 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,229 The California Golden Bears are hosting the UCLA Bruins. 404 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,795 You'll watch anything, won't you? 405 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,510 Yeah. 406 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:51,315 Why are there two clocks? 407 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,713 One's the game clock and one's the play clock. 408 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,871 The game clock is showing how much time is left in the quarter 409 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,555 and the play clock shows how much time is left to get off the play. 410 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,518 They only have a certain amount of time to complete the play? 411 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,717 They only have a certain amount of time to start the play. 412 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,720 Don't have that rule in soccer. 413 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,200 They don't have any rules in soccer. 414 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,351 That's why you think a game that ends in a zero-zero tie 415 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,715 - is a gamely fought match. - It's called nil-nil. 416 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,598 I was trying to keep it from being worse. 417 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,909 I was helping you out. 418 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,075 Do any other sports have enforced pacing? Does baseball? 419 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,352 No, pitchers commonly go for a sandwich between pitches. 420 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:27,397 Golf, you can be penalized for slow play. 421 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,632 Hockey, you can hang onto the puck for as long as you want, 422 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,030 but before too long a guy named Lars is gonna hurt you. 423 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:36,431 Basketball has a shot clock. You've got 24 seconds 424 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,432 to put up a shot, or in college it's 35. 425 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,273 Tennis, you can lose a point for slow play. 426 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:41,555 - Listen. - Yeah. 427 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,791 Should we be worried about the Stomtonovich call? 428 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,990 - It's on film. - Okay. 429 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,915 I'm gonna look at it again now. 430 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,992 Go Bruins! Beat the Golden Bears. 431 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,312 Beat them as hard as you can. Beat them with impunity! 432 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,114 - You have no idea what you're saying. - I know. 433 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,796 - We thought the DOD would have... - I thought. 434 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,832 I thought the DOD would have a response on their website by midnight. 435 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,316 But by 6:00 a.m. we hadn't heard anything yet. 436 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,914 - Come on in. 437 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,037 Excuse me. 438 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,311 - You guys have met? - We have. 439 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,153 - How are you? - Good, thank you. 440 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,796 She says she never heard Stomtonovich say it happened. 441 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,877 - Then that's what it is. - Even in her condition? 442 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,794 - Hmm? - You'd take her word for it in her condition? 443 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,917 In the condition she was in when they did the interview? 444 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,118 She's not in a condition, and yes, I'd take her word for it. 445 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,953 If she wasn't sure, she'd say she wasn't sure. 446 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,839 On the witness stand, that's not gonna sound like honorable loyalty. 447 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,559 It's gonna sound like you're willing to believe anybody 448 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,670 as long as you slept with them. 449 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,198 This is the very last polling data taken before the polls open tomorrow. 450 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Who's gonna win? 451 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,833 The President will be reelected. 452 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,480 But Tulsi Gabbard's gonna win in Hawaii's second. 453 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,233 She'll be the first Samoan in Congress. 454 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:03,957 And Kerry Bentivolio is gonna take the seat vacated by Thaddeus McCotter, 455 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,471 who came out with my pick for the best resignation statement of all time. 456 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,632 "The recent event's totalities of calumnies, indignities and deceits 457 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,598 "have weighed most heavily upon my family. 458 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,400 "Thus, acutely aware one cannot rebuild their hearth 459 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,830 "among the ruins of their US House office, 460 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,594 "for the sake of my loved ones, I must strike another match, 461 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,639 "go start anew by embracing the promotion 462 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,116 "back from public servant to sovereign citizen." 463 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,517 Sounds like he and his friends Rosencrantz and Guildenstern 464 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,640 are about to take a journey by sea to ask the Duke of Verona for his most kind blessing. 465 00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,440 I like you, Keefer. 466 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,354 My trust in Maggie 467 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,590 has nothing to do with anything but the right things. 468 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,435 6:00 a.m., you hadn't heard from the DOD. 469 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,438 7:00 a.m., 8:00 a.m., nothing. 470 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,716 - Maybe they hadn't seen the show. - They see the Internet. 471 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,200 This was Monday morning, September 10. 472 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,430 Yeah. 473 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,233 You had another story creeping up on you. 474 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,234 Nobody knew that yet. 475 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,675 Everybody below the producer level has to take a shift doing the book. 476 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,598 That morning it was Neal's turn. 477 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,955 What's the book? 478 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,551 Neal. 479 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,037 It seems like it's my turn more often than it should be. 480 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:11,236 Man up. 481 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,834 I'm always manned up. That's my default mode. 482 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,240 Then go into ultra man mode. 483 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,551 The women here couldn't deal with my ultra man mode. 484 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,359 Probably not. Are you gonna take this? 485 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,430 - It's heavy. 486 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,436 - Intern. Come on over. - Yes? 487 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,516 This is the overnight book. 488 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,116 The night crew puts together every story and every press release from everywhere. 489 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,351 Go through this and separate it into four piles, 490 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,080 knew that, didn't know that, don't care, and Shakira. 491 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,311 - But that one's just for me, all right? - Neal. 492 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,760 - There's no statement yet. - I know. 493 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,160 It's the Pentagon. 494 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,431 Is it possible they've responded in a secret corner of the Internet? 495 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,590 Secret corner of the Internet? 496 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,240 Slay a dungeon wizard to get the keys to Mordor or something? 497 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,352 - It's not possible. - Something that we need that Dumbledore... 498 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,517 - Listen to yourself. - I know, it's getting worse as I go on. 499 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,478 - And it didn't start in a great place. - Nothing in the book? 500 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,630 Well, there are gonna be a ton of things 501 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,756 in the book, but not from the Pentagon. 502 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,479 I thought on the off chance someone got a quote from them. 503 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,392 - We'd know about it. - Obviously I'm grasping at straws, Neal. 504 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,709 There's no call to be patronizing. 505 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,670 - You're right. - Thank you. 506 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,757 - Well, you're not, 'cause Mordor... - I'm not the expert. 507 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,796 You don't say. 508 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,519 Do the book and don't just farm it out to an intern. 509 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,120 I'm delegating. 510 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,272 - Fast Nationals? - Right here. 511 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:24,953 Just tell me if the number begins with a three. 512 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,471 - It doesn't. - 2.9? 513 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,550 2.7? 514 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,037 5.8 million viewers. 515 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,633 - Shut the fuck up. - That's gonna double 516 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,030 when they add live-plus-same-day and live-plus-seven. 517 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,355 - Jesus Christ! - Congratulations. 518 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,033 Congratulations, man! 519 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:41,759 Tracking looked good, but not like this. 520 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,957 That's an I Love Lucy number. 521 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,676 Yes. 522 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,797 Yes. What? 523 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,236 Don't worry about the call from Stomtonovich. 524 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,436 I'm not. 525 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,273 I am a little bit and I'll tell you why. 526 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,194 He didn't sound like a guy with cold feet. He was certain of what he said 527 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,079 and he said it to me three times the exact same way. 528 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,990 There was one camera, no cuts. He's not a young guy. It all happened fast. 529 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,515 He's thinking about the size of it for the first time now. 530 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,399 Yes. Yeah. 531 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:12,635 The size of it. 532 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,558 A new story creeping up on us? 533 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,111 The morning of September 10. The day after the broadcast. 534 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,431 It was Neal's turn to do the overnight book, 535 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,160 - but he staffed it out to an intern. - Jenna Johnson. 536 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,512 Are you talking about Benghazi? 537 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,560 Anything? 538 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,950 Jerry Brown's challenged Chris Christie to a race. 539 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,030 Sponsored by HeartBlast, 540 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,237 a new defibrillator company from the people who brought you... 541 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,960 Piers Morgan and Rihanna had a Twitter fight about her haircut. 542 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,316 I'll give you $100 if you go pitch that to Will. 543 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,074 I know you're not gonna think this one's important, but it is. 544 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,514 - Star Magazine... - Nope. 545 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,718 ...is reporting that a palace source confirmed that Kate Middleton is pregnant. 546 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,872 - That's news I want to hear. - You just did. Anything else? 547 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,233 Lady Gaga showed a lot of cleavage 548 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,040 - at an after-party for the Paralympic Games. - Put that one aside. 549 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,477 - Oh, and Terry Jones the Florida pastor? - Yeah. 550 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,871 He's screening the trailer to a movie called Innocence of Muslims. 551 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,474 - We thought... - I thought. 552 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,111 I thought, everyone thought 553 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,715 that when the DOD posted its response, it would be vague. 554 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,671 "Pentagon doesn't comment on classified operations, 555 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,712 "but we have serious problems with the story 556 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,480 "aired by Atlantis Cable News last night." Something like that. 557 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,674 You know the reason it was taking them so long to respond? 558 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,156 No. 559 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,596 They were bringing a lawyer into the Pentagon press office. 560 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,998 - Pentagon counsel? - And another lawyer. 561 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:32,349 Matlock? 562 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,399 The Attorney General. They weren't fucking around. 563 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,553 We knew there'd be pushback. 564 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,913 But not like that. 565 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,670 "We are considering any and all legal remedies 566 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,719 "available to us including under the Espionage Act. 567 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,472 "In the interim, we will begin declassifying documents 568 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,870 "to prove the falsity of ACN's claims." 569 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,671 If I'm a lawyer in that room, I don't write that response unless I'm sure. 570 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,910 We were sure. 571 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,159 Still? It's noon, Monday. 572 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:40,715 Charlie got everyone together in the conference room. 573 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,793 He polled everyone to see if they were still standing by the story. 574 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,720 People were resolved. 575 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,678 Jim had already said his piece. 576 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,195 His job was to support Mac now, and that's what he was doing. 577 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,033 At the expense of good advice? 578 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,840 He'd given his advice. 579 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,594 And Charlie, Mac, and Will had given their instructions. 580 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,831 Of course they pushed back. What do we expect them to... 581 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,600 "Well, you caught us. Bravo to you, sirs. 582 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,592 "We'll walk ourselves over to Leavenworth now." 583 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,918 You know at some point at Little Bighorn, I'll bet Custer led a unanimous vote 584 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,151 where everyone said, "I still think we can win." 585 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,431 Then came Elliot's show that night. 586 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,791 You know, Elliot was really the only guy on the team 587 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,355 who hadn't gotten dirty with Genoa yet. 588 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,113 So we dropped dirt on him. 589 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,600 Go. 590 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,319 The second MARSOC team dropped sarin? 591 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,033 - Yes. - You're sure? 592 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,430 - Yes. - That's why you wore the MOPP suits? 593 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,274 That's why we wore the MOPP suits and that's why civilians died. 594 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080 That was another clip from last night's ACN Reports, 595 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,671 the startling and provocative story of the extraction of two captured Marines. 596 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,032 Joining us by satellite from Trenton, New Jersey, 597 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,635 is former Marine Gunnery Sergeant Eric Sweeney, 598 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,229 a member of the MARSOC team that executed the extraction, 599 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,390 which was codenamed Genoa, 600 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,269 and I should say the first member of the team to step forward and tell his story. 601 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,760 - Welcome, Mr. Sweeney. - Thank you. 602 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,674 Let's start there. What made you come forward and speak to the press? 603 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,395 I wish I could say it was honorable. It was a guilty conscience. 604 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,199 - Guilty that... - I knew what we'd done. 605 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,872 "Any and all legal remedies." Is that something they usually say? 606 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,997 They said it when the SEAL released his bin Laden book. 607 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,549 - They haven't charged him. - The Espionage Act? 608 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,519 Do you know how many journalists have ever been tried under the Espionage Act? 609 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,829 - None. - Good. 610 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,833 'Cause you wouldn't make it in jail, Don. 611 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,436 I'd survive, but you wouldn't. In fact, I'd thrive. 612 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,590 How do you figure? 613 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,399 - Shawshank. 614 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,158 I'd do everybody's taxes and invest the warden's money. 615 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,552 What are you gonna do? Produce their nightly news show? 616 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,434 - Is this our sound or his? - His. We're good. 617 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,840 We want to be a force multiplier 618 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,912 where one of us can do the work of several infantrymen. 619 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,153 "The charge that US Special Operations used sarin gas is absolutely false." 620 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,870 I don't know. Absolutely? Why not just say "false"? 621 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,633 "Absolutely" sounds like the kind of word you use... 622 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,712 This isn't like the time Chip left you a message in eighth grade 623 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,872 and you and your friends did a lab analysis to figure out if it meant he liked you. 624 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,360 Chet was his name 625 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,796 and sometimes boys are vague with their messages. 626 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,109 Was that the first time 627 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,072 that you had to perform a medical procedure in action? 628 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,109 Move him back to Genoa when you can. 629 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,960 We have advanced combat medicine as part of our training. 630 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,073 The first time I had to use it, we were on a mission to pay some tribal leaders... 631 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,674 I don't know what he's talking about anymore. 632 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,434 We hit two IEDs and my Humvee blew apart 633 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,075 and three of us sustained TBIs, traumatic brain injuries. 634 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,193 And I was dragging a friend of mine... 635 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,112 Did he say "us"? 636 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,673 He said "the three of us." Traumatic brain injury. He said that. 637 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,876 - TBI? - I heard it. 638 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,270 Sergeant, did you say that you sustained a traumatic brain injury? 639 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,636 - Well, it wasn't serious. - Get out. 640 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,599 - Did you disclose that information to the... - Get out! 641 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,433 Okay, we've got to go to break, 642 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,511 but we're coming back with Eric Sweeney, a MARSOC on Operation Genoa. 643 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,319 This is Right Now. 644 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,720 I saw it. 645 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,755 There's a problem with the story. 646 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,479 I know. 647 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,354 All right. 648 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,673 Thank you for coming in the middle of the night. 649 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,759 And I'm sorry I'm late. There was a deer on the Merritt Parkway. 650 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,390 The deer ran across and the car two in front of me hit it. 651 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,756 - Was everyone all right? - Yeah. 652 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,230 Mac. 653 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,195 Why didn't we know about the TBI? 654 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,237 Everybody listen, okay? Believe me, I cornered him... 655 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,993 We knew he had two Purple Hearts. 656 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,833 I got him on the phone in Trenton as soon... 657 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,072 Just back up. We'll do this step by step. He had two Purple Hearts. 658 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,958 The medical information is sealed and classified. 659 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,839 He told us one is for a shrapnel wound in his left shoulder 660 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,355 sustained during an ambush during his first tour in '08. 661 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,352 - The second is... - The second, he told us, 662 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,671 was for a stab wound in his leg he got while trying 663 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,639 to subdue an angry teenage militant in Kapisa Province. 664 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,074 That's the one he was lying about. 665 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,152 The second Purple Heart was for the TBI. 666 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,709 - He showed us the knife wound. - I asked him about that, too. 667 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,752 He got it in his kitchen trying to open a CD. 668 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,110 He didn't tell us about the TBI because he didn't think we'd believe his story. 669 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,759 Isn't that another way of saying 670 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,355 he wanted to tell the Genoa story so badly he lied? 671 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000 Well, so why would he lie about a story that wasn't true? 672 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,673 What's the biggest effect of a TBI? 673 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520 - I get that it's memory loss. - It's memory loss. 674 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,757 And it's dizziness and speech deficits. 675 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,435 We didn't see any of those in the hundred hours we spent with him. 676 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,159 I don't understand. So at least he doesn't have 677 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,913 all the symptoms of a traumatic brain injury? 678 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,074 GI Jim, what percentage of soldiers taken to Walter Reed have a TBI? 679 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,594 - A lot. - It's 30%. 680 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,036 So we're not gonna listen to a third of wounded vets? 681 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,589 We made this one a key witness in an accusation of murder. 682 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,995 He lied about an injury 683 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,276 and the injury's number one symptom is memory loss. 684 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,350 Bring him up from Trenton. 685 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,750 I'll do a pre-interview myself and if I'm satisfied, 686 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,400 I can put him through a direct examination on the air and clean this up. 687 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,757 Yeah, and can I just remind everybody Sweeney's not our only witness. 688 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,519 We've got Stomtonovich and Valenzuela. 689 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,991 Two more witnesses, only 50% of whom are recanting what they said. 690 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,560 Stomtonovich can recant all he wants. 691 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,791 We have the unedited tape and Jerry and Maggie were there. 692 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,950 Mmm-hmm. 693 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,713 For the record, I wasn't. 694 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,116 Wasn't what? 695 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,671 I was sent out of the room before the interview started. 696 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,752 - Good. Let's get it all out now. - Why? 697 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,912 You and Charlie told him it was going to be Jerry. 698 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,872 You didn't tell him an AP was coming along. 699 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,078 He had had me investigated, but not Maggie, so he didn't feel comfortable... 700 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,277 - You were the only one in the room with him? - Yeah, I was. 701 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,999 - And I see what's happening here. - Nothing's happening. 702 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,275 Can I bring something else up? 703 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,637 We aired the story 27 hours ago, so, yeah, now's the time. 704 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,514 We aborted the interview with Sweeney tonight. 705 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,080 - I did. - Uh, I did. 706 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,719 - Should you have? - I don't know. 707 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,917 I was suddenly in a position where I was asking questions 708 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,196 I didn't know the answers to about our own story. 709 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,476 If it hadn't been our own story, wouldn't you have kept going? 710 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,480 "Did you disclose that to the Genoa producers? 711 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,117 "No? You lied? How has a TBI for which you received a Purple Heart..." 712 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,760 Yes, he would have kept going. I shut him down. 713 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,433 - It was live air. - That doesn't make us look great. 714 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,836 Looking great wasn't one of their options right then. 715 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,480 Everybody knock it off! 716 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,552 Sister Mary Mother of God. 717 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,872 We have a problem. That's all it is. 718 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,395 We're not gonna have a fucking scrum! 719 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,238 What do we have? What? 720 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,871 A retired Marine general started getting calls from his buddies. 721 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,394 "What the hell is going on?" 722 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,119 His voice was altered. His face was blacked. 723 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,159 There are six people who have the information he has 724 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,476 and generals don't have dumb friends. 725 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,994 What else? 726 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,759 A witness who once had a concussion. 727 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,479 - While saving other people's lives. - Thank you. 728 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,315 - That's not... - Jim, while being courageous. 729 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,359 And he was courageous again stepping forward. 730 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,510 Kids used to lie about their age to get in the Army and fight in a war. 731 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,920 That's what Sweeney did here. 732 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,753 How much of what you're saying do you believe right now? 733 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,990 60%. 734 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,072 I thought it was in the mid-80s. You pulled it off. 735 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,514 Experience. 736 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,155 You need to talk to Deep Throat. 737 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,033 I'm on the first shuttle to Washington. 738 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,840 - Have you talked to him on the phone? - We don't talk on phones. 739 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,593 - How about your guy? - We talk on phones. 740 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,750 He's asking have you talked to your guy? 741 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,472 - An hour ago. - And? 742 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,791 He says stand by the story. 743 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,076 We go back over every inch starting right now. 744 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,749 By 8:00 tonight, I want Will to be able to say we stand by it. 745 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,309 And when he says it, we stand by it. 746 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,472 Break 'em into teams. 747 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,714 Had you realized yet at the time of that meeting 748 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,877 that Sweeney and Stomtonovich weren't your only problem? 749 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,679 Who says they weren't our only problem? 750 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,673 Right. That was an example of a leading question. 751 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,397 A leading question suggests its own answer. 752 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,437 When did you stop beating your wife, right? 753 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,074 We never established I beat my wife. 754 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,913 We never established you're married. 755 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,110 - I'm not. - Yeah. 756 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,232 I'm not following you, Rebecca. 757 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,313 MacKenzie had realized at the time of the meeting 758 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,920 - that Sweeney and Stomtonovich... - There's no way. 759 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,753 - There's no way. - Jim, listen to me. 760 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,833 - There's no way Mac's to blame for this. - Valenzuela was your third witness. 761 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,560 I have seen lawyers do some things in my life. Jesus. 762 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,353 Just listen. 763 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,598 First red team, you have Sweeney, you don't go to air. 764 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,071 Red team two, you have Sweeney and Stomtonovich, you don't go to air. 765 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,996 Red team three, you have Valenzuela now and Charlie green-lights it. 766 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,069 Valenzuela was an important witness. 767 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,269 Yeah. 768 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,675 And? 769 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,800 What if I led him? 770 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,758 - Valenzuela? - In his pre-interview. 771 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,797 I've read the pre-interview transcript 100 times. 772 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,270 I read it 1,000 times, but I've just read it again 773 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,790 and I have to wonder if I inadvertently led on that witness. 774 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,838 - You didn't. - I can make the case that I did. 775 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,240 Look at what's good on the story. 776 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,950 Stomtonovich, he didn't like the report. Sorry, but we've got him on film. 777 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,719 Sweeney, he wants to be heard 778 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,269 and he thinks he'll be discounted 'cause of the TBI, so he lies. 779 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,631 And by the way, if I had a traumatic brain injury 780 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,519 and knew that information couldn't be discovered 781 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,479 unless I volunteered it, I wouldn't volunteer it. 782 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,911 I have a source. Is it POTUS? No. It's better. 783 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,400 What would it take for you to tell me the source? 784 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,039 Someone would have to be torturing you. 785 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,679 That's sweet, but... 786 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,320 - Charlie has a source. You trust Charlie? - Of course. 787 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,874 And we have Valenzuela. 788 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,713 There is much more about this story that's good... 789 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,194 And I'm saying what if I led Valenzuela? 790 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,556 I objected to that in courtrooms for years. 791 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,438 I know what a leading question sounds like. 792 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,590 Then you know I asked them. 793 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,080 You have to ask them in these situations. 794 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,556 The guy... He was reluctant. He didn't want to talk. 795 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,030 Read the first line on page three. 796 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,438 We have a three-star general who's an expert in chemical weapons." 797 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,155 We have a three-star general who's an expert in chemical weapons. 798 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:35,594 Do you think he's lying? 799 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,311 There was a video camera on a tripod to record the pre... 800 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,232 What if he thought the camera... What if he thought the interview might get... 801 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,159 You know, and he doesn't want to call a general a liar? 802 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,594 - That's nuts. - It's not. 803 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,559 He came to us. He didn't want Sweeney to stand alone. 804 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,639 And if Sweeney's wrong, then I gave the wrong information to Valenzuela. 805 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,595 Valenzuela's whole interview was goosed by the information that came before it. 806 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,156 Sweeney says everyone was wearing MOPP suits. 807 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,270 He told you that? 808 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,353 What if Sweeney's got problems and what if Valenzuela's his only friend? 809 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,432 Look at line 303. 810 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,593 I don't want Sweeney to stand alone. 811 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,354 He doesn't raise one original fact in this interview. 812 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,635 Read it again. 813 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:30,192 By the end, it's a recitation of everything he's heard from Sweeney and from me. 814 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:34,757 You need to sleep. 815 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,356 A garage? 816 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,390 - Seriously? - They still work. 817 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,472 This place can't afford security monitors. 818 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,714 What brings you to Washington, D.C.? 819 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,595 - We're having trouble with the story. - No shit. 820 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,831 Tell me one more time we got it right. 821 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,116 You want to see some pictures of David? 822 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,510 - I'm sorry? - Do you want to see some pictures of David? 823 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,592 - Who's David? - David's my son, Charlie. 824 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,440 Is there a problem with the story? 825 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,354 There he is. We're moving him into his dorm at BU. 826 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,312 And here he's home for Thanksgiving. 827 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,194 - Shep. - Hang on. 828 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,559 That's on the Cape. We rent a house in August. 829 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,311 Here's a picture he sent me his first day interning at ACN. 830 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,273 And there he is, first day home from rehab at Sierra Tucson. 831 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,956 And this one's from his funeral last year. 832 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,360 Jesus, Shep. 833 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,358 I know, I took a picture at a funeral. 834 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,960 That's crazy, but it's just for you. 835 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,280 They call it heron now. 836 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,639 Like the bird, just a little heron. 837 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,120 I didn't have any idea. 838 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,160 You hired him as a summer intern on his 90th day. 839 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:54,038 Three months is a landmark in that world. 840 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,720 Three everything... Three days, three weeks, three months, three years. 841 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,314 Who the fuck knows why? 842 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:01,792 - Are you sure you don't want to sit? - We're in a garage! 843 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,995 We can go somewhere. 844 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,072 One of your people, Charlie, one of your people... 845 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,914 One of your people fired him and you didn't stop it. 846 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,595 I wish, man... I wish you'd talked. There's an explanation. 847 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:13,439 You didn't stop it. 848 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,592 He was a good kid. He was a smart kid and a worker. 849 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,400 He was a 19-year-old junkie, but he was clean 90 days. 850 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,591 - Our social media guy runs the interns. - Neal Sampat. 851 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,319 - David... - Whose name you didn't know. 852 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,075 ...was posting... Is this something you really want to hear? 853 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,590 Yes. From you, badly. 854 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,718 - I never knew anything... - He posted something on the Internet? 855 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,793 - Look. - Yeah? 856 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,238 A couple of years ago, News Night got a new EP and the show... 857 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,838 Boy, is your wife... 858 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,240 Linda is my ex-wife. 859 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,832 The show took a turn and what? 860 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,317 David posted things about it on the Internet he didn't like. 861 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,278 Things about... 862 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,352 - He was politically engaged. - Mmm-hmm. 863 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,794 - Neal... - Neal Sampat. 864 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,159 Neal warned him he can't do that and he kept on doing it. 865 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,477 - I'm sorry. - You didn't step in. 866 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,270 He deserved to be fired. 867 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,191 How many stories have I given you? 868 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:15,511 There was a moment a while back I thought about having you killed. 869 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,714 Then I thought, "What does Charlie Skinner fear more than death?" 870 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,520 "Sit back, wait for your moment." 871 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:26,872 Then Jerry Dantana starts calling MARSOCs about Genoa. 872 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,079 The helo manifest you gave me. 873 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,232 Hold it over light for 20 seconds. 874 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,633 So that happened. 875 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,952 - Are you kidding me? - No. 876 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,633 Are you kidding me with this story? 877 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,955 No, this is all... 878 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,230 All terribly true. 879 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,789 - There are protests erupting in Cairo. 880 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,671 March 2, 1955. 881 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:55,799 A young black woman is arrested 882 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,277 for refusing to give up her seat on a bus to a white man in Alabama. 883 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,157 Civil rights leaders and the ACLU rush to her side 884 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:06,438 and she will be a symbol of the struggle against segregation. 885 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,309 Her name is Claudette Colvin and she's 15 years old. 886 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,959 She's also unmarried and pregnant. 887 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,353 Civil rights leaders and the ACLU decide that Colvin 888 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,672 is not the best foot forward and stand down. 889 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,956 Eight months later, Rosa Parks happens, 890 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,431 but during that eight months, a brilliant and charismatic young minister 891 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,033 gets the attention of the community and is chosen to lead the bus boycotts. 892 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,517 If Claudette Colvin doesn't get pregnant, 893 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,513 if they'd gone in the spring instead of eight months later, 894 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,389 Martin Luther King is a preacher you've never heard of in Montgomery. 895 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,553 I've got a few hundred people outside the embassy 896 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,757 - and so far it's peaceful. - That's what I've got. 897 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,320 - Which embassy? - Ours. 898 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,390 What are they protesting? 899 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,436 Is anybody getting through to Cairo? 900 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,240 I've got the front desk at the Shepheard Hotel. It's a couple blocks away. 901 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,199 He's saying that people have been streaming toward the embassy for about an hour. 902 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,476 - Is he saying how many? - He thinks a couple of thousand. 903 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,756 - Thousand? - A poli sci professor at AU in Cairo 904 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,514 says that a Salafist leader named Wesam Abdel-Wareth... 905 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,911 He's like the Glenn Beck of Egypt and he's the president of a television station. 906 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,640 He put out a call to protest a movie called Muhammad's Tribe. 907 00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:06,756 Why are they at the American embassy? 908 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,797 Apparently it's an American movie, but we can't find it. 909 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,309 Wait a second. 910 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,997 What's the name of the pastor with the mustache who's crazy? 911 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,315 - Terry Jones. - Yes. 912 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,676 He announced yesterday that he was screening a movie. 913 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,753 - I can't remember the name. - Innocence of Muslims. 914 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,793 Is it possible it's the same movie? 915 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,439 Who is Giuseppe Zangara? 916 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:31,438 I don't really know. He's a guy with a gun who fired five shots in February 15, 1933, 917 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,557 killing the Mayor of Chicago. 918 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,155 Why? Because Zangara was standing on a wobbly chair. 919 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,193 And the Mayor of Chicago wasn't his target. 920 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,880 It was the guy the mayor was shaking hands with, 921 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,794 the newly elected President Franklin Roosevelt. 922 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,272 If Zangara's chair isn't wobbly, Roosevelt never takes office 923 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,194 and we swear in his running mate, John Nance Garner, 924 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,840 a man whose political ideology was the basis for his opposition to a package of legislation 925 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,478 that would be called The New Deal and we don't survive the Great Depression. 926 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,199 It's the same movie. Innocence of Muslims. 927 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,272 He changed the title to get Muslims in to see it. 928 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,635 There's a mash-up of it on YouTube. 929 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:07,154 Does it seem offensive? 930 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:08,469 To filmmakers at the very least. 931 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,315 Okay, AP has just reported, "Egyptian Islamist protestors angry over film 932 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,596 "scale US Embassy wall in Cairo and tear down flag." 933 00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:15,949 - The American flag. - I understand that now. 934 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,838 - Jim, this thing's starting to move. - They breached the wall. 935 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,956 They've got a link to their website 936 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,156 - with a message. - I'm on their website. 937 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,880 "The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts 938 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,395 "by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims." 939 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,795 They're apologizing for the movie? 940 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,634 2,000 people just hopped the wall, man. I'd apologize for whatever they want. 941 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:31,393 - I wouldn't. - Congratulations. 942 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,751 MargaretJordan@ACN.com. 943 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,593 We'll have video of the flag in about five minutes. 944 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,114 They took down our flag and replaced it 945 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,919 with a black flag and in Arabic writing it says... 946 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,430 "There is no God but God and Muhammad is the prophet of God." 947 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,319 I hope our apology was sincere enough. 948 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,154 You want a job as the guy who answers the front door of the embassy right now? 949 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:47,640 We're gonna need more bodies on phones. 950 00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:49,518 Who are we talking to? Does London know anything? 951 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,512 London? When was the last time you slept? 952 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,956 I've been busy standing by Genoa. What about you? 953 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,276 I have no problem standing by it. 954 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,915 You were well trained. 955 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,037 Guys, another demonstration's broken out. 956 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,600 - In Cairo? - In Libya. 957 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,433 Outside our consulate in Benghazi. 958 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,193 Your kitchen faucet has washers. 959 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,511 They keep water from leaking through the joints in the fixtures. 960 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,790 And that's what O-rings do. 961 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,276 They're giant washers that keep pressurized hydrogen 962 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,960 from leaking out of the SRB, the solid rocket booster, 963 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,271 that shoots the space shuttle out of the Earth's atmosphere. 964 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,633 These O-rings have been tested and tested 965 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:21,270 under every possible circumstance but one, cold. 966 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,920 They didn't test to see if the O-rings worked when it was cold. 967 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,400 Why would they even think to test for that? 968 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,473 The thing's launching from south Florida. When's it gonna be cold? 969 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,157 On January 28, 1986, 970 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,554 a cold snap dragged the overnight temperature down to 18 degrees 971 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,714 and it turns out the O-rings stopped working below 40. 972 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,231 So 73 seconds after the Challenger lifts off, 973 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,996 it converts itself into a bomb and detonates. 974 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,356 An American's dead. Don't know who. 975 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,109 - Staff member. - Consulate staff. 976 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,237 - All this statement says is... - Statement from who? 977 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,471 Libya's Supreme Security Committee. 978 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,075 "One American staff member has died and a number have been injured." 979 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,958 - What's his name? - We don't know. 980 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,350 I want to stop hearing that answer soon. We have 90 minutes to air. 981 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,756 - Mac, did you want to look at this? - Not this second. 982 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,672 - They're not releasing names. - Names? 983 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,110 - They have more than one? - I don't know if that was the implication. 984 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,669 - Mac. - It's just an LED readout, right? 985 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,036 Yeah. We put it on brackets on the prompter 986 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,516 and I've got it on remote from the control room. 987 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,120 A segment is 3 minutes and 50 seconds 988 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,396 and you don't have to be in his ear at the end of a segment. 989 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,910 He'll appreciate that. Just leave it here. 990 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,072 I'll show it to him and find out what neurotic superstition he has for not using it. 991 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,516 Copy. 992 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,271 Muhammad. Muhammad the bastard, your lady summons you. 993 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,352 My lady? My lady? 994 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,632 Don't finish it. 995 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,840 I'm watching you. 996 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,832 What would a military response be? 997 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,637 First Marine FAST, Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team. 998 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:50,155 They've got... Right, they've got platoons. 999 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:51,754 - In Spain. - Rota, Spain. 1000 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,879 That's still 12 hours, right? 1001 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,633 - Jim would know. - Where is he? 1002 00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,030 He and Don are huddled up working on something. 1003 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,954 So sometimes it's just the one thing. 1004 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,320 He lucked out. He wouldn't have been able to do it 1005 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,993 if there had been action in the frame. 1006 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,440 Were any exceptional measures used in the operation? 1007 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,432 Exceptional measures were called for. 1008 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,234 - Like what? - We used sarin. 1009 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,392 It is right. It is moral and necessary to use any... 1010 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,033 We used sarin. 1011 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,759 It is right. It is moral... 1012 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,997 Exceptional measures were called for. 1013 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,434 Like what? 1014 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,912 We used sarin. It is right. 1015 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,390 It is moral and necessary to use any means 1016 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,711 in that situation and the situation they were in. 1017 00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,791 You forgot about the shot clock. 1018 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,355 Mac. 1019 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,310 Hey, easy does it. 1020 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:35,115 The shot clock jumped from 19 to 3 to 2 to 14. 1021 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,436 He said it, Mac. 1022 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,749 How do you not understand what you've done? 1023 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,876 He said it before we were rolling. 1024 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,758 - But I couldn't get him to repeat it. - We have to retract it. 1025 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,593 - He said it to me. - Do you understand this? 1026 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,956 - Did Genoa happen? It happened. - That we invented evidence 1027 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,037 - to support a story of a war crime. - It happened. 1028 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,112 Maggie was there. She heard him say it. She's just fucked up. 1029 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,316 A war crime. 1030 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,754 - Yeah, it's a war crime and it happened. - No one... 1031 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,435 We went into Iraq because he had these things. We don't torture, 1032 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,000 - we don't use chemical weapons. - No one... 1033 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,438 I wouldn't have done this on any other story and I wouldn't have done it unless I was sure! 1034 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,315 ...is ever going to believe us again. 1035 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,391 I think I shouldn't say anything more until I've talked to a lawyer. 1036 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,037 - You're fired. - I know. 1037 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,755 We don't think the protests in Benghazi has anything to do with the movie. 1038 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,832 - We don't think it's a protest. - What do you think it is? 1039 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,679 - A planned, coordinated attack. - A terrorist attack. 1040 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,433 - He's got a source at State. - We've used him. 1041 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,196 He saw an e-mail at the operation center to White House, Pentagon, and FBI saying 1042 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,239 Ansar al-Sharia is claiming credit for the attack in Benghazi. 1043 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,118 Will, the movie might just be a coincidence. 1044 00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,357 It's not a movie. Avatar is a movie. 1045 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,635 How bad is this thing? 1046 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,552 - Oh, it's bad. - It's really not at all good. 1047 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,474 You have been nothing but bad news since you raised your hand at Northwestern. 1048 00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:10,994 Don and Jim have a source at State that says he saw an e-mail. 1049 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,436 Ansar al-Sharia is saying they did Benghazi. 1050 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,116 May have nothing to do with Cairo and it's a 9/11 anniversary attack. 1051 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,274 What? 1052 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,199 Mac? 1053 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,590 We have to retract Genoa tonight. 1054 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,432 All of it. 1055 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,836 A half an hour later, we retracted the story. 1056 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,358 That was our top story, not Benghazi. 1057 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,080 On Benghazi we didn't trust the source at State. 1058 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,873 We didn't trust anything anymore. 1059 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,276 We reported the same thing as everybody else 1060 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,477 even though we knew we were probably wrong. 1061 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,395 Protesters, angry over an amateur American movie denouncing Islam, 1062 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,831 attacked the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya, today, 1063 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,872 killing a State Department officer. 1064 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,550 While in Cairo, demonstrators stormed the walls of the United States Embassy. 1065 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,238 On the anniversary of 9/11... 1066 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,876 We just stopped being good at... 1067 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,319 Genoa was a real mission. It was successful. 1068 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,595 Sweeney was right about the MOPP suits, 1069 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,195 just wrong about the reason they were wearing them. 1070 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,193 It was in case the militants had biological weapons. 1071 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,835 The white phosphorus was only laid down to mark the target. 1072 00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,798 Hamni8 didn't die in the raid. 1073 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,872 His prepaid cell plan ran out. 1074 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,032 It was an institutional failure. 1075 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,636 Bullshit. 1076 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,797 We'll call the election tomorrow and then resign. 1077 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,031 She's on her way over. We're meeting her upstairs. 1078 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,432 I'm sorry, Will. I really am. 1079 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,472 I wanted this to go another way. 1080 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,157 We both knew it wasn't gonna. 1081 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,395 Did she seem mad? 1082 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:38,910 Hmm? 1083 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,192 When you talked to her on the phone. 1084 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,476 It's after midnight. You think we got her out of bed? 1085 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,758 You did not get me out of bed. Good night. 1086 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,997 I just paid $1,000 to see Skyfall 1087 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,515 and attend a party at the Museum of Modern Art. 1088 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,160 The proceeds are going to the Tribeca Film Festival. 1089 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:55,913 - You know why? - To support the arts? 1090 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,640 - To meet Daniel Craig. - Did you? 1091 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,592 Hurricane Sandy and the airports. 1092 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,833 - He wasn't there? - He was not there. 1093 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,912 You look like Daniel Craig. Get up. 1094 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,357 Oh, you look less like him now. Sit back down. And what about you? 1095 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,158 Why so glum, sugarplum? 1096 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:18,519 We're gonna resign, Leona. It's what has to happen now. 1097 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:24,710 Elliot Hirsch, Sloan Sabbith, Terry Smith, Dayside ACN, ACN. 1098 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,440 We understand the integrity of the news is more important... 1099 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,195 Than one individual. That is beautiful. 1100 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,793 Not as beautiful as Daniel Craig. 1101 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,678 - Leona. - I'd have sent my plane. 1102 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,070 - I'd have sent my plane. - We're not fucking around. 1103 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,120 You will resign when I fire you out of petty malice and not before. 1104 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,032 - Our trust numbers are... - Yeah, they're bad. 1105 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,236 They're fatal. 1106 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,312 Firing Jerry was obviously the right thing to do, 1107 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,000 but it wasn't enough and we've known that for two months. 1108 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,112 Charlie and I have to go. 1109 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,836 - And Twiggy over here? - It was my fault. 1110 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,073 McMac. Can I call you McMac? Doesn't matter, I'm gonna anyway, McMac. 1111 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,155 - Your head's up your ass. - Mrs. Lansing. 1112 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,795 Guy comes in here into my hizzy... 1113 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,997 Guy comes in here, cooks an interview, no remorse. 1114 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,229 30 lawyers vet the story, it goes on air. 1115 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,677 You, I don't know what you'd do to Sherlock Holmes this thing. 1116 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,719 I wouldn't be able to figure it out and I'm the smartest person in the room. 1117 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,029 Well, I wouldn't go that... 1118 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,954 Oh, shut the fuck up, you Daniel Craig wannabe. 1119 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,554 I don't want to be Daniel Craig. 1120 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,593 Well, you should want to be Daniel Craig. Everybody should. 1121 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,797 Leona, are you stoned? 1122 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,997 You know, my makeup lasts a long time. 1123 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,311 - Oh, jeez. - Mrs. Lansing. 1124 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,516 No, no, please, call me... 1125 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,158 Continue to call me Mrs. Lansing. 1126 00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:38,517 - Leona... - Guy comes into my house 1127 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,875 which I love. 1128 00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:42,357 Which I bet you guys didn't know. 1129 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,877 But I love it. I love ACN. 1130 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,594 You don't make me a nickel 1131 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,791 and you cause headaches for the divisions that do, 1132 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,314 but you make me... 1133 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,833 You make me so proud. 1134 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,550 God, guy comes in here, cooks an interview, 1135 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,400 and this ends up with... 'Cause he's unemployable 1136 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,030 he gets a $5 million settlement and the three of you leave? 1137 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,033 Oh, I don't think so. 1138 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,954 And McMac. 1139 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,391 That's a name that's really starting to grow on me. 1140 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,111 She doesn't have to go. Nobody's ever heard of her. 1141 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,079 But she's gonna do the honorable thing. 1142 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,072 And what's expected of me, huh? 1143 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,439 Not to do the honorable thing? What's expected of me? 1144 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,959 No, I do not accept your resignations. 1145 00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:35,359 And Jerry Dantana's not gonna get one fucking dollar. 1146 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,716 I got some kick-ass courtroom outfits. 1147 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,679 You have to accept our resignations and you have to settle. 1148 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,314 He'll take it to trial and win. 1149 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,911 There was an institutional failure and he was the only one fired. 1150 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,077 Then you'll need a good lawyer. 1151 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,318 Lee, don't accept their resignations. 1152 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,951 I already wasn't accepting their resignations, Becca. 1153 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,671 Don't horn in on my honorable thing. 1154 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,195 God, I mean, can't a lady have... 1155 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,758 Leona, we don't have the trust of the public anymore! 1156 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,800 Get it back!