1
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Since I got here,
you're my third contempt of court.

2
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First one was a contested
traffic ticket.

3
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The guy cursed at the judge.
The second one was a lawyer.

4
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- What'd he do?
- He cursed at the judge.

5
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You're my first reporter.

6
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I'm Will.
I'd shake your hand...

7
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I know who you are.

8
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<i>So the traffic ticket,
he was just here for a night.</i>

9
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<i>But the lawyer was here
for a weekend.</i>

10
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Three nights,
and you could tell he was starting to go a little...

11
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You know, it affected him.

12
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<i>You're gonna be
locked in a cage now,</i>

13
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<i>and it's not a natural thing.</i>

14
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Go ahead.

15
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That's yours over here.

16
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- You got toiletries?
- I'm sorry?

17
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You didn't bring toiletries?

18
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Uh, no, I didn't.

19
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<i>I'll bring you toothpaste
and a brush.</i>

20
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<i>I can bring you a book
from the library if you want.</i>

21
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- You might get the whole weekend.
- Sure, thanks.

22
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You'll be fine.

23
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_

24
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<i>You fish.</i>

25
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I'm sorry?

26
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You're a fisherman.

27
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Yeah. No.
Not in a long time.

28
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That's a nice fish.

29
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- <i>Yeah.</i>
- Eight pounds.

30
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You know,
I don't really remember.

31
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<i>And that's your father
there next to you?</i>

32
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- <i>Yeah.</i>
- That's a wholesome picture.

33
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Looks like it came
with the frame.

34
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- <i>Yeah.</i>
- And that's your wife?

35
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Yeah, her name is MacKenzie.

36
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- <i>Whew, she's a knockout.</i>
- She is.

37
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- <i>It's okay if I say that, right?</i>
- Sure.

38
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<i>And those are your, what?
Your friends, your colleagues?</i>

39
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Yeah,
they're some of the people I work with.

40
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We work close together.

41
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- You have to explain it to me one more time.
- Really?

42
00:03:21,906 --> 00:03:24,957
<i>'Cause every time you say it,
it sounds like you're in here voluntarily.</i>

43
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I promise you, I'm not.

44
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But you can walk out
any time you want.

45
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No, I can't.
I can only walk out

46
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if I reveal the identity
of a source.

47
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- You want to read your book.
<i>- I don't want to be rude.</i>

48
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<i>You didn't ask me what I was in for.
I appreciate that.</i>

49
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Domestic battery.

50
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Nine women on the jury.

51
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<i>My PD was a woman,
so she wasn't exactly my champion.</i>

52
00:03:51,986 --> 00:03:55,488
The prosecutor was a woman.
The judge was a woman.

53
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<i>I mean,
is that even constitutional?</i>

54
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The PD wanted me to plea...
Six months.

55
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But I wanted to fight it...
Two years.

56
00:04:02,580 --> 00:04:05,415
<i>That wasn't your first offense,
though.</i>

57
00:04:05,450 --> 00:04:07,283
How do you know?

58
00:04:07,285 --> 00:04:10,503
You wouldn't have gotten two years for
domestic battery if it was your first...

59
00:04:10,538 --> 00:04:12,789
It was my third.
Strike three.

60
00:04:14,125 --> 00:04:15,792
Oh, are you judging me now?

61
00:04:15,844 --> 00:04:17,794
'Cause a judge just did that.
I don't need it.

62
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- No.
- Yeah, you are.

63
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I have an idea.

64
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Tell me the name of the source.

65
00:04:24,302 --> 00:04:25,935
<i>I didn't make
a pledge or anything.</i>

66
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I'll tell it to them on the
condition they let us both go.

67
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It's a hell of a plan.

68
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Or I could just shake
the name out of you.

69
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Stand up.

70
00:04:38,316 --> 00:04:40,566
I want you to see that I
got four inches on you

71
00:04:40,618 --> 00:04:43,319
and you're giving up 30 pounds.
I'm not your wife.

72
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Raise your hands
above your hips

73
00:04:45,206 --> 00:04:48,574
and I'll knock you
the fuck into next week.

74
00:04:56,668 --> 00:04:58,501
Your father was a drunk,
wasn't he?

75
00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:04,507
<i>You aren't a consumer,
you're a citizen.</i>

76
00:05:04,509 --> 00:05:07,343
<i>You aren't an audience,
you're an activist.</i>

77
00:05:07,395 --> 00:05:09,812
<i>You aren't a viewer,
you're ACN.</i>

78
00:05:09,848 --> 00:05:12,515
<i>You are ACN.</i>

79
00:05:21,359 --> 00:05:22,942
Which one of you...

80
00:05:22,994 --> 00:05:25,361
It's as offensive as I thought it
was gonna be when I heard about it.

81
00:05:25,413 --> 00:05:27,530
- Offensive to whom?
- Me. And him.

82
00:05:27,532 --> 00:05:30,833
And Will and Sloan and everyone
who works here and you.

83
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We are ACN.

84
00:05:32,170 --> 00:05:34,036
It's a slogan.
It doesn't mean anything.

85
00:05:34,088 --> 00:05:36,539
First, I wouldn't be relieved that our
new slogan doesn't mean anything.

86
00:05:36,541 --> 00:05:38,040
- I meant...
- But it isn't a slogan.

87
00:05:38,042 --> 00:05:40,209
It's a statement
of our new direction.

88
00:05:40,261 --> 00:05:43,429
We're gonna cover the conversation
because this is just the first one.

89
00:05:43,465 --> 00:05:45,465
Next one's gonna show
citizen journalists

90
00:05:45,517 --> 00:05:47,266
filing stories
from the Coffee Bean.

91
00:05:47,302 --> 00:05:49,602
- Don?
- It looks like urine.

92
00:05:49,637 --> 00:05:52,221
It doesn't.
You're just complaining for the sake of it.

93
00:05:52,273 --> 00:05:54,307
The best graphics house
in the UK

94
00:05:54,359 --> 00:05:56,976
was paid $700,000
to build that spot.

95
00:05:57,028 --> 00:05:59,979
I don't mean the animation.
U-R-A-C-N.

96
00:06:00,031 --> 00:06:02,148
Our brains are trained to see
groups of letters as a word

97
00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,534
and visually that group of
letters looks like urine.

98
00:06:04,569 --> 00:06:08,070
Maybe if we separate
the U and the R.

99
00:06:08,072 --> 00:06:09,572
Maybe,
but the best you can hope for

100
00:06:09,574 --> 00:06:11,791
is something with the gravitas
of a vanity license plate.

101
00:06:11,826 --> 00:06:14,627
<i>- Maybe we should ask people to vote.
- After all, they are ACN.</i>

102
00:06:14,662 --> 00:06:17,213
- You know, Mac...
- Young people know when they're being patronized.

103
00:06:17,248 --> 00:06:18,714
Everybody knows when
they're being patronized.

104
00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:20,800
I've been hearing this
for 52 days.

105
00:06:20,835 --> 00:06:23,135
Because in 52 days,

106
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I've put three Twitter
monitors on our set.

107
00:06:25,757 --> 00:06:29,225
Passing weather systems are reported
like al-Qaeda sleeper cells.

108
00:06:29,260 --> 00:06:33,095
And a total of 84 air minutes have
been spent on the mayor of Toronto

109
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while zero minutes have been
spent on the mayor of Detroit

110
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whose city is about two
minutes away from bankruptcy.

111
00:06:38,903 --> 00:06:41,103
Also in that 52 days,
we've gone from fourth

112
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to third in households
and second in the demo.

113
00:06:43,608 --> 00:06:46,442
In seven weeks,
the average age of our audience

114
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has dropped three years.

115
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And we did all that while
still managing to cover

116
00:06:51,416 --> 00:06:53,916
<i>a military takeover in Egypt</i>

117
00:06:53,952 --> 00:06:58,120
and most recently,
a pretty big scandal involving the NSA.

118
00:06:58,172 --> 00:07:01,173
We've got two reporters at the
Moscow Airport right now.

119
00:07:01,209 --> 00:07:05,011
Two. So can you do me
a favor and not worry

120
00:07:05,046 --> 00:07:07,680
that the world's
most benign promo

121
00:07:07,715 --> 00:07:09,682
is a threat to democracy?

122
00:07:09,717 --> 00:07:11,217
- Sure.
- You?

123
00:07:11,269 --> 00:07:13,436
- Can I have a second?
- Yeah.

124
00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:17,940
So, the Princeton story.
The website.

125
00:07:17,976 --> 00:07:20,192
There is an epidemic

126
00:07:20,228 --> 00:07:22,478
of campus sexual assaults
in this country.

127
00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,480
It's a perfectly
legitimate story.

128
00:07:24,532 --> 00:07:27,733
In fact, it's an important one,
so what's your fucking problem?

129
00:07:27,785 --> 00:07:29,452
I agree.

130
00:07:29,487 --> 00:07:31,320
I just don't know
how to do the story.

131
00:07:31,372 --> 00:07:33,823
- I don't understand.
- I don't know how to do it. I'm looking for some guidance.

132
00:07:33,875 --> 00:07:35,908
You interview the student
with the website.

133
00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,161
You interview one of the guys who's been accused.
Why is it complicated?

134
00:07:39,163 --> 00:07:41,297
Well,
it's complicated for a lot of reasons,

135
00:07:41,332 --> 00:07:43,833
and one of them is that Pruit
wants them both in the studio.

136
00:07:43,835 --> 00:07:46,218
- He told you that?
<i>- He called me.</i>

137
00:07:50,892 --> 00:07:53,976
He shouldn't be speaking
directly to you.

138
00:07:54,012 --> 00:07:56,228
And he shouldn't be
making those decisions.

139
00:07:56,264 --> 00:07:58,681
But if that's what he wants,
why don't you just do it?

140
00:08:03,821 --> 00:08:05,771
Well, like I said,
I don't know how to.

141
00:08:05,823 --> 00:08:07,273
Bullshit.

142
00:08:07,325 --> 00:08:09,609
You do know how.

143
00:08:09,661 --> 00:08:13,946
And if you don't,
I need to hire someone who does, man.

144
00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:15,581
Okay?

145
00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:17,950
Yeah.

146
00:08:19,337 --> 00:08:20,870
Anything else?

147
00:08:20,922 --> 00:08:22,538
No.

148
00:08:34,102 --> 00:08:37,270
Anything happen over the
weekend I should know about?

149
00:08:37,293 --> 00:08:39,105
Not much.

150
00:08:39,140 --> 00:08:41,524
Dilma Rousseff pledged
to speak with protestors.

151
00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,943
- The House voted down the Farm Bill.
- Yeah, I saw that.

152
00:08:43,978 --> 00:08:47,029
France is sending Syrian rebels
17.6 tons of medical aid.

153
00:08:47,065 --> 00:08:49,231
I'm sure that's going to get
where it's supposed to go.

154
00:08:49,233 --> 00:08:51,317
<i>A woman named Lilly M. Hart
shot herself in the mouth</i>

155
00:08:51,369 --> 00:08:53,369
on the steps in front
of the Justice Department.

156
00:08:53,404 --> 00:08:55,154
We're not sure what
she was protesting,

157
00:08:55,206 --> 00:08:58,157
but her bio had a lot of gun
control advocacy in it.

158
00:08:58,209 --> 00:09:00,042
She was protesting guns
by shooting herself?

159
00:09:00,078 --> 00:09:02,244
The FBI isn't releasing
any information right now.

160
00:09:02,246 --> 00:09:04,547
- You mean DC Police.
- No, the FBI is handling it.

161
00:09:04,582 --> 00:09:07,633
- Why?
- They won't release that information either.

162
00:09:07,669 --> 00:09:09,085
Anything else?

163
00:09:09,087 --> 00:09:11,253
Kim and Kanye named
their baby North.

164
00:09:11,255 --> 00:09:13,222
There's our top story.

165
00:09:14,175 --> 00:09:15,925
What was her name?

166
00:09:15,977 --> 00:09:18,094
North. North West.

167
00:09:18,096 --> 00:09:20,596
No, the woman who shot
herself in front of the DOJ.

168
00:09:20,598 --> 00:09:22,264
Lilly Hart.

169
00:09:22,266 --> 00:09:25,067
<i>Again, I don't know how...</i>

170
00:09:26,604 --> 00:09:27,937
What?

171
00:09:30,908 --> 00:09:32,908
She wasn't protesting guns.

172
00:09:35,196 --> 00:09:37,780
They said it was an emergency.
Is everything okay?

173
00:09:37,832 --> 00:09:39,699
Do we have attorney-client privilege,
you and me?

174
00:09:39,751 --> 00:09:42,118
- I'm not your lawyer.
- What if you were?

175
00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,869
Then we would have
that privilege.

176
00:09:43,921 --> 00:09:48,207
I'm hiring you right now
on a $20 retainer.

177
00:09:48,259 --> 00:09:50,459
- Do I need to sign something?
- No. What's going on?

178
00:09:50,461 --> 00:09:52,712
I know the name of the source.

179
00:09:52,764 --> 00:09:55,297
I've known since the party after
the Correspondents' Dinner.

180
00:09:55,299 --> 00:09:56,799
And the day before yesterday,
she shot

181
00:09:56,801 --> 00:09:59,135
and killed herself on
the steps outside the DOJ.

182
00:09:59,187 --> 00:10:01,971
The woman...
She was the source?

183
00:10:02,023 --> 00:10:03,522
Yeah.

184
00:10:03,558 --> 00:10:05,107
Who else knows the name?

185
00:10:05,143 --> 00:10:06,809
Neal, obviously, Will, and I.
That's it.

186
00:10:06,811 --> 00:10:09,445
- Not the DC Police?
- I think they must...

187
00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,031
Excuse me.

188
00:10:12,066 --> 00:10:13,866
Thank you.

189
00:10:13,901 --> 00:10:15,985
Lasenthal on the phone.

190
00:10:18,489 --> 00:10:20,322
You know what?

191
00:10:20,374 --> 00:10:22,992
Your husband is getting
out of jail today.

192
00:10:25,123 --> 00:10:27,577
_

193
00:10:34,222 --> 00:10:36,472
I was just chewed out for
10 minutes by Erin Andrews.

194
00:10:36,507 --> 00:10:38,641
- Why?
- She was accosted by paparazzi last night

195
00:10:38,676 --> 00:10:40,559
coming out of <i>Man of Steel</i>
at the El Capitan in LA.

196
00:10:40,595 --> 00:10:41,927
Paparazzi were coming
out of the El Capitan?

197
00:10:41,979 --> 00:10:43,679
- She...
- She was coming.

198
00:10:43,681 --> 00:10:45,347
She'd just seen the movie and
waiting for her were a pack of paparazzi.

199
00:10:45,349 --> 00:10:46,766
<i>Got it.
Why was she chewing you out?</i>

200
00:10:46,818 --> 00:10:47,983
I'm the one here
she knows the best.

201
00:10:48,019 --> 00:10:49,351
Didn't she have
an affair with Will?

202
00:10:49,353 --> 00:10:51,520
It wasn't an affair.
Neither of them were married.

203
00:10:51,572 --> 00:10:53,489
No, that didn't happen.
Will's in jail at the moment.

204
00:10:53,524 --> 00:10:55,324
And none of this is the point.

205
00:10:55,359 --> 00:10:57,610
The paparazzi knew she was in there
because of our creepy stalker app.

206
00:10:57,662 --> 00:10:59,528
I'm coming to you
as my superior,

207
00:10:59,580 --> 00:11:02,031
which I mean only in a sense
of our organizational chart,

208
00:11:02,083 --> 00:11:03,699
and pleading with you
to have what's his name...

209
00:11:03,751 --> 00:11:05,951
- Bree.
- Bree shut down the app.

210
00:11:06,003 --> 00:11:07,536
Mac's been fighting
that battle for six weeks.

211
00:11:07,538 --> 00:11:10,456
- And what have you been doing?
- Just, you know, my job.

212
00:11:10,508 --> 00:11:13,342
Which should now include getting
the assassin's helper taken down.

213
00:11:13,377 --> 00:11:14,543
- I'm on it.
- When?

214
00:11:14,545 --> 00:11:18,264
Well, I'm in the middle of a tricky...
Now.

215
00:11:18,299 --> 00:11:20,266
- Right now.
- There you go.

216
00:11:24,222 --> 00:11:26,272
Excuse me, Bree.

217
00:11:27,775 --> 00:11:29,058
Excuse me.

218
00:11:32,780 --> 00:11:34,230
Hey, easy.

219
00:11:34,232 --> 00:11:36,365
- I just wanted to talk to you about something.
- You are?

220
00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,450
He's Don Keefer, executive producer...
You know who he is.

221
00:11:38,486 --> 00:11:41,320
- And you run our website until Neal Sampat's back.
- I wanted to...

222
00:11:41,372 --> 00:11:44,039
I'm senior editor of ACN Digital,
if you're going to be insulting.

223
00:11:44,075 --> 00:11:46,075
- Nobody wants to be insulting.
- I badly want to be insulting.

224
00:11:46,127 --> 00:11:48,077
Here's the thing...
Sloan got a call from Erin Andrews...

225
00:11:48,129 --> 00:11:49,245
- You know Erin Andrews?
- Yes.

226
00:11:49,247 --> 00:11:51,547
Yowza.
I want to get with that so bad.

227
00:11:51,582 --> 00:11:54,583
I'll pass that on.
I'm sure she'll want you to have her number.

228
00:11:54,585 --> 00:11:56,385
- Hey, fuck you.
- Yeah?

229
00:11:56,420 --> 00:11:59,221
- You can't talk to her like that, my friend.
- What's the problem here?

230
00:11:59,257 --> 00:12:01,924
Erin Andrews got stopped by paparazzi
last night coming out of the movies.

231
00:12:01,926 --> 00:12:04,093
- I know, we've got it up.
- Now we're in Peabody country.

232
00:12:04,095 --> 00:12:05,845
You're here to give me shit
about the app again.

233
00:12:05,897 --> 00:12:08,564
Yes. Restraining Order.
Scum Bottle Guide.

234
00:12:08,599 --> 00:12:10,316
- Whatever it's called.
- ACNgage.

235
00:12:10,351 --> 00:12:11,934
It should be called
ACinvoluntary Engage.

236
00:12:11,986 --> 00:12:13,602
I'll bring that up
at our next staff meeting.

237
00:12:13,654 --> 00:12:15,571
You guys like
ACinvoluntary Engage?

238
00:12:15,606 --> 00:12:17,489
- No.
- It got voted down.

239
00:12:17,525 --> 00:12:20,743
Listen, no kidding around,
you need to disable the app until we can figure this out,

240
00:12:20,778 --> 00:12:23,863
- 'cause it's a little not what we do.
- What's not what you do?

241
00:12:23,915 --> 00:12:26,081
Giving deranged people with
access to semiautomatic weapons

242
00:12:26,117 --> 00:12:28,450
the locations of their
targets while simultaneously

243
00:12:28,452 --> 00:12:30,035
turning the rest
of our brains into Wheatena.

244
00:12:30,087 --> 00:12:31,537
That app's driving
a lot of traffic.

245
00:12:31,589 --> 00:12:33,505
I don't care if it's driving
in the Grand Prix of Monaco.

246
00:12:33,541 --> 00:12:34,924
I need you to temporarily
take it down.

247
00:12:34,959 --> 00:12:37,209
- Then permanently take it down.
- You need to speak to my boss.

248
00:12:37,261 --> 00:12:38,460
- He's your boss.
- I'm your boss.

249
00:12:38,512 --> 00:12:40,012
Lucas Pruit is my boss.
I pitched him the app

250
00:12:40,047 --> 00:12:41,881
and he loved it,
which is why we have it.

251
00:12:41,933 --> 00:12:45,467
This is a warmed-over version of the same app
Gawker had and took down five years ago.

252
00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:47,219
They still have a version of it,
but this one's better.

253
00:12:47,271 --> 00:12:48,771
- <i>Look...</i>
- No, you look.

254
00:12:48,806 --> 00:12:49,939
We're all a little tired
of being treated

255
00:12:49,974 --> 00:12:51,857
like we're not Neal Sampat.

256
00:12:51,893 --> 00:12:54,143
I like my app
and it makes money,

257
00:12:54,145 --> 00:12:56,445
both of which are more than I
can say for your 10:00 hour.

258
00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,614
So if you have a problem,
and I got a hunch you got more than a few,

259
00:12:58,649 --> 00:13:00,566
why don't you take it to Pruit?

260
00:13:02,370 --> 00:13:05,487
Beat him up.

261
00:13:05,539 --> 00:13:08,040
No, he's right.

262
00:13:08,075 --> 00:13:09,541
Yeah, he's... What?

263
00:13:09,577 --> 00:13:12,494
About the last thing he said.
About the last thing you said.

264
00:13:12,496 --> 00:13:14,213
We haven't been very welcoming

265
00:13:14,248 --> 00:13:17,633
and in a weird way we've
been blaming him for Neal.

266
00:13:17,668 --> 00:13:20,920
If Digital can help us,
we should be supporting Digital.

267
00:13:20,972 --> 00:13:23,222
- That's right.
- Yeah.

268
00:13:23,257 --> 00:13:25,057
Come on the show and tell
people about your app.

269
00:13:25,092 --> 00:13:28,177
Seriously?

270
00:13:28,229 --> 00:13:30,596
I'll ask MacKenzie for a block
and I'll interview you.

271
00:13:30,648 --> 00:13:33,148
All right.
Awesome.

272
00:13:33,184 --> 00:13:35,434
An associate producer
will give you the details.

273
00:13:35,486 --> 00:13:37,269
- You should apologize.
- Sorry.

274
00:13:37,321 --> 00:13:39,488
- To him.
- Habit. Sorry.

275
00:13:39,523 --> 00:13:40,689
Were you serious about
that phone number?

276
00:13:40,741 --> 00:13:43,192
Yeah,
but I think you can do better.

277
00:13:43,194 --> 00:13:45,327
- For real?
- I'm on it.

278
00:13:50,701 --> 00:13:52,451
Okay,
so when you vivisect this guy

279
00:13:52,503 --> 00:13:54,370
and especially his app,
Pruit's not gonna be happy.

280
00:13:54,422 --> 00:13:56,171
I'll cross that bridge
when I come to it.

281
00:13:56,207 --> 00:13:58,374
You usually blow up that
bridge when you come to it.

282
00:13:58,426 --> 00:14:00,926
Would you mind giving me some space?
I have a show to prepare.

283
00:14:00,962 --> 00:14:02,461
<i>Sure, but this is my office.</i>

284
00:14:02,513 --> 00:14:03,963
Yes, it is.
Sorry.

285
00:14:04,015 --> 00:14:05,965
Hang on.

286
00:14:06,017 --> 00:14:08,434
There's an undergrad at
Princeton who started a website

287
00:14:08,469 --> 00:14:10,803
for students who have been raped,
but who don't have enough evidence

288
00:14:10,855 --> 00:14:12,271
for the police to take action.

289
00:14:12,306 --> 00:14:16,025
Victims can go onto the site
either anonymously or not

290
00:14:16,060 --> 00:14:19,561
and name names and describe
their experiences.

291
00:14:19,563 --> 00:14:24,316
Pruit wants the undergrad and one
of the accused in the studio.

292
00:14:24,368 --> 00:14:25,567
- That's a terrible idea.
- I know.

293
00:14:25,569 --> 00:14:27,236
- Do you have a better one?
- Don't do it?

294
00:14:27,238 --> 00:14:30,239
Do you have a better one
where I get to keep my job?

295
00:14:30,241 --> 00:14:32,658
- Charlie's gonna back you.
- Charlie told me to do it.

296
00:14:35,329 --> 00:14:38,247
What's happening to him?

297
00:14:40,134 --> 00:14:42,334
I think you should consider
letting me do the talking.

298
00:14:42,386 --> 00:14:45,004
At least at the top.
We won't have much time with him

299
00:14:45,056 --> 00:14:47,089
and I want to ask him,
obviously, the extent

300
00:14:47,141 --> 00:14:48,841
to which they've been
keeping metadata,

301
00:14:48,893 --> 00:14:51,060
how much the agency learns
from this kind of information,

302
00:14:51,095 --> 00:14:53,312
and in what ways the FISA
reports have provided

303
00:14:53,347 --> 00:14:55,097
insufficient oversight
of the NSA.

304
00:14:55,099 --> 00:14:58,100
I want to ask him at what point he decided
to declare war on the United States.

305
00:14:58,152 --> 00:15:00,352
So I think you should
let me get the ball rolling.

306
00:15:00,404 --> 00:15:02,771
You and your whole generation's
contempt for institutions.

307
00:15:02,773 --> 00:15:04,156
I'm two years younger than you.

308
00:15:04,191 --> 00:15:05,741
With your hair and your
clothes and your music.

309
00:15:05,776 --> 00:15:07,159
Here it is.
Here's the gate.

310
00:15:07,194 --> 00:15:08,243
You sure?

311
00:15:08,279 --> 00:15:11,580
It says departs
for Havana at 11:55 PM.

312
00:15:11,615 --> 00:15:14,416
- Are you sure?
- We had a nine-hour flight from New York.

313
00:15:14,452 --> 00:15:16,869
I was brushing up on my Russian
with my Russian phrase book,

314
00:15:16,921 --> 00:15:20,539
or <i>Russkiy razgovornik</i>,
while you were watching <i>Star Wars</i> on your iPad.

315
00:15:20,591 --> 00:15:22,291
Trek. <i>Star Trek</i>.

316
00:15:22,343 --> 00:15:24,760
Both excellent
examples of genius,

317
00:15:24,795 --> 00:15:26,929
- but different in every imaginable...
- Yeah, shut up.

318
00:15:26,964 --> 00:15:28,464
- Good evening.
- Good evening.

319
00:15:34,188 --> 00:15:35,971
<i>Then we'll speak in English.</i>

320
00:15:35,973 --> 00:15:37,639
You're American press, yes?

321
00:15:37,691 --> 00:15:40,642
I have not seen Edward Snowden.
I do not know where he is.

322
00:15:40,728 --> 00:15:42,478
That's all right.
We just want to check in

323
00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,113
for the midnight
flight to Havana.

324
00:15:44,148 --> 00:15:46,198
That's Aeroflot seven,
departing 11:55?

325
00:15:46,233 --> 00:15:48,951
Yes.
Margaret Jordan and James Humdrum.

326
00:15:48,986 --> 00:15:51,453
Harper.

327
00:15:51,489 --> 00:15:54,156
That guy's from
ABC's Moscow bureau.

328
00:15:55,376 --> 00:15:57,993
And that's Reuters
and that's <i>Le Monde</i>.

329
00:15:57,995 --> 00:16:00,579
He's going to Cuba.
He's gonna be on this flight.

330
00:16:00,631 --> 00:16:02,748
<i>I do not show reservation
for Margaret Jordan.</i>

331
00:16:02,833 --> 00:16:04,500
- Really?
- I'll try Humdrum.

332
00:16:04,502 --> 00:16:05,918
Harper.
James Harper.

333
00:16:05,970 --> 00:16:09,555
The office bought our tickets
while we were in the air.

334
00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:11,890
I do not show reservation
for Harper.

335
00:16:11,926 --> 00:16:13,392
Would you mind checking again?

336
00:16:13,427 --> 00:16:15,260
What do you think will
happen the second time?

337
00:16:17,098 --> 00:16:19,598
Would you ask her
to check again?

338
00:16:19,650 --> 00:16:22,317
- Would you mind checking again?
- In Russian.

339
00:16:22,353 --> 00:16:25,354
I understood in English.
And I have checked again.

340
00:16:25,356 --> 00:16:28,524
And lo and behold,
got the same result.

341
00:16:28,576 --> 00:16:30,993
All right.
Can we have two coach seats to Havana?

342
00:16:31,028 --> 00:16:32,861
- The flight is sold out.
- Of course it is.

343
00:16:32,863 --> 00:16:35,030
I'll call the office.

344
00:16:35,032 --> 00:16:36,865
Unless the office can build
two seats and install them

345
00:16:36,867 --> 00:16:40,002
on the plane in the next four hours,
it's not gonna do any good.

346
00:16:44,291 --> 00:16:46,125
Excuse me.
Do you speak English?

347
00:16:46,177 --> 00:16:48,877
- <i>Agence France.</i>
- You speak French. Great.

348
00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:50,963
- I speak English, too.
- Okay.

349
00:16:51,015 --> 00:16:54,716
'Cause when I said...
It doesn't matter.

350
00:16:54,768 --> 00:16:57,970
I would like to buy your ticket
from you at a substantial markup.

351
00:16:58,022 --> 00:17:00,139
- How substantial?
- Twice what your office paid for it.

352
00:17:00,191 --> 00:17:02,224
You can catch the next flight
and pocket the difference.

353
00:17:02,276 --> 00:17:04,276
- That's a good deal.
- Yes, it is.

354
00:17:04,311 --> 00:17:06,061
I don't have a ticket
for the flight.

355
00:17:06,113 --> 00:17:07,729
- You don't?
<i>- No.</i>

356
00:17:07,731 --> 00:17:09,398
What are you doing here?

357
00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,367
I'm here to photograph
Mr. Snowden.

358
00:17:12,403 --> 00:17:14,703
This is a very big story.
You agree?

359
00:17:14,738 --> 00:17:16,738
I do.

360
00:17:16,790 --> 00:17:18,874
I do agree.

361
00:17:24,999 --> 00:17:27,249
We have to get on this flight.

362
00:17:30,304 --> 00:17:33,255
When did you decide you wanted
to be a TV news anchor?

363
00:17:33,307 --> 00:17:35,307
Do you know how long this
interview is gonna take?

364
00:17:35,342 --> 00:17:39,094
- <i>You've got someplace else you're going?</i>
- No.

365
00:17:39,096 --> 00:17:41,180
When did you decide you wanted
to be a TV news anchor?

366
00:17:41,232 --> 00:17:43,932
I didn't. I was a prosecutor.
Then I was a speechwriter.

367
00:17:43,934 --> 00:17:46,768
Then I was the legal correspondent
for my network and I got promoted.

368
00:17:46,820 --> 00:17:49,771
- You were a prosecutor?
- The Brooklyn DA's office.

369
00:17:49,857 --> 00:17:52,824
<i>You aren't afraid you're gonna run into
some of the people you sent here?</i>

370
00:17:52,860 --> 00:17:54,610
That's why I'm supposed
to be in solitary.

371
00:17:54,612 --> 00:17:56,278
And you were
what kind of writer?

372
00:17:56,330 --> 00:17:58,447
Speechwriter.

373
00:17:58,449 --> 00:18:00,499
What does that mean?

374
00:18:00,534 --> 00:18:03,202
I helped write speeches for
the first President Bush.

375
00:18:03,254 --> 00:18:06,505
I worked on his campaign and when he won,
they brought me to the White House.

376
00:18:06,540 --> 00:18:09,458
No kidding?
George H.W.?

377
00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:12,127
- Yeah.
- Did you ever meet him?

378
00:18:12,129 --> 00:18:14,012
Yeah.

379
00:18:14,048 --> 00:18:15,714
Ah. I liked him.

380
00:18:15,766 --> 00:18:18,884
He was an elite Harvard
silver spoon and all that,

381
00:18:18,936 --> 00:18:20,302
but he didn't rub it in your face,
you know?

382
00:18:20,354 --> 00:18:23,105
- He went to Yale.
- He didn't do that.

383
00:18:23,140 --> 00:18:25,023
He didn't make people
feel stupid.

384
00:18:25,059 --> 00:18:27,309
- That's not what I was doing.
- What?

385
00:18:27,311 --> 00:18:29,978
You were just saying
that to the fatheads,

386
00:18:30,030 --> 00:18:32,447
<i>there's no difference
between Yale and Harvard.</i>

387
00:18:32,483 --> 00:18:34,650
But to the refined palate
of the eastern elite,

388
00:18:34,702 --> 00:18:36,368
- <i>the subtle nuances...</i>
- Jesus, I'm from Nebraska!

389
00:18:36,403 --> 00:18:38,620
You still got that northeastern
air of superiority.

390
00:18:38,656 --> 00:18:41,240
- I'm in jail!
- And even in here you still think you're better than me.

391
00:18:41,292 --> 00:18:44,993
You hit a woman, man.
You don't set the bar very high.

392
00:18:44,995 --> 00:18:47,496
<i>- Will.</i>
- Yeah?

393
00:18:47,498 --> 00:18:50,082
- You got visitors.
- On a Monday?

394
00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,391
- I'll be outside the door.
- You look good.

395
00:18:59,426 --> 00:19:02,811
- Yeah, you say that every week.
- It's true every week.

396
00:19:02,846 --> 00:19:04,012
How you holding up?

397
00:19:04,064 --> 00:19:06,181
I'm good.
What's this about?

398
00:19:06,233 --> 00:19:09,401
He's going to ask you a couple of
questions I've already approved.

399
00:19:09,436 --> 00:19:11,937
But if you need a minute,
take a minute.

400
00:19:11,989 --> 00:19:14,356
- He'll step outside.
- What's going on?

401
00:19:14,408 --> 00:19:15,991
The day before yesterday,
Saturday morning,

402
00:19:16,026 --> 00:19:18,527
<i>a woman named Lilly Hart
committed suicide</i>

403
00:19:18,529 --> 00:19:21,780
<i>by shooting herself in the head on the
steps of the Justice Department.</i>

404
00:19:21,832 --> 00:19:23,665
Does the name Lilly Hart
mean anything to you?

405
00:19:23,701 --> 00:19:24,700
That wasn't one of the
questions we went over.

406
00:19:24,702 --> 00:19:27,035
- All right.
<i>- Stick to the script.</i>

407
00:19:27,037 --> 00:19:29,671
Lilly Hart worked for BCD.

408
00:19:29,707 --> 00:19:32,374
Her roommate and some of her friends
were trying to put the pieces together,

409
00:19:32,426 --> 00:19:35,627
<i>trying to figure out why she killed
herself and so theatrically.</i>

410
00:19:35,679 --> 00:19:38,263
- Mm-hmm.
- Her roommate starts going through her emails

411
00:19:38,299 --> 00:19:41,600
and then some files,
and she finds some things which are alarming enough

412
00:19:41,635 --> 00:19:45,887
for her to bring to the attention of
some agents who sweep the entire laptop.

413
00:19:47,474 --> 00:19:49,808
Will you confirm
Lilly Hart as your source?

414
00:19:51,312 --> 00:19:52,728
No, sir.

415
00:19:54,231 --> 00:19:57,232
- Will you deny that she was your source?
- No, sir.

416
00:19:57,234 --> 00:19:59,701
- <i>You're not under oath.</i>
- I understand.

417
00:19:59,737 --> 00:20:01,620
Lilly Hart has no family.

418
00:20:01,655 --> 00:20:04,239
Both her parents died
in a car crash years ago.

419
00:20:04,291 --> 00:20:05,874
She's single with no children.

420
00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:08,710
There's no one
to protect anymore.

421
00:20:08,746 --> 00:20:10,996
Confirm the name,

422
00:20:11,048 --> 00:20:13,749
and I'll inform the judge
that the government

423
00:20:13,801 --> 00:20:16,635
no longer needs your testimony
and has withdrawn their subpoena

424
00:20:16,670 --> 00:20:20,422
<i>and you'll be having dinner with
your wife in your home tonight.</i>

425
00:20:20,424 --> 00:20:22,557
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm not allowed

426
00:20:22,593 --> 00:20:25,260
to reveal the name of a source
without their permission.

427
00:20:25,312 --> 00:20:27,596
<i>Well,
that option was taken off the table</i>

428
00:20:27,598 --> 00:20:30,432
when your source put
a loaded Beretta 9mm Nano

429
00:20:30,434 --> 00:20:31,933
in her mouth
and squeezed the trigger.

430
00:20:31,935 --> 00:20:34,269
Don't do that.
Don't try the side door.

431
00:20:34,271 --> 00:20:37,272
Look, confirm that she's the source
and Neal comes home from Venezuela.

432
00:20:37,324 --> 00:20:38,774
We'll buy the ticket.
First class.

433
00:20:38,776 --> 00:20:40,742
And you won't pursue
criminal prosecution?

434
00:20:40,778 --> 00:20:43,328
We'll give him
an ice cream cone.

435
00:20:43,364 --> 00:20:46,415
Will you confirm that Lilly
Hart was your source?

436
00:20:47,751 --> 00:20:49,034
No, sir.

437
00:20:50,537 --> 00:20:53,088
- Will you deny it?
- No, sir.

438
00:20:55,876 --> 00:20:58,927
Neal would pummel me if I got him back
by giving up the name of a source.

439
00:20:58,962 --> 00:21:00,796
Did you think I was gonna
consider a deal like this?

440
00:21:00,848 --> 00:21:02,848
I wrote down exactly
what I thought you'd say

441
00:21:02,883 --> 00:21:04,966
and sealed it in this envelope.

442
00:21:14,668 --> 00:21:16,655
_

443
00:21:23,787 --> 00:21:25,704
Can I speak to him?

444
00:21:25,739 --> 00:21:28,573
<i>He's back in his cell.</i>

445
00:21:28,625 --> 00:21:30,158
Mac.

446
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,494
When are they gonna be
absolutely sure?

447
00:21:32,496 --> 00:21:34,296
What percent of certainty
will it take?

448
00:21:34,331 --> 00:21:37,249
- I'm gonna find out.
<i>- What if we switch places?</i>

449
00:21:37,301 --> 00:21:40,252
- <i>I have the exact same information Will has.</i>
- Mac.

450
00:21:40,304 --> 00:21:43,722
What if you convinced them I was softer
and more likely to give up the name?

451
00:21:43,757 --> 00:21:45,090
- <i>Are you?</i>
- No.

452
00:21:45,142 --> 00:21:46,641
Just a second.

453
00:21:46,677 --> 00:21:48,727
- What if you told them that...
- Listen to me.

454
00:21:48,762 --> 00:21:50,679
'Cause here's your $20 worth.

455
00:21:50,731 --> 00:21:53,515
You don't tell anyone
you know what Will knows.

456
00:21:53,567 --> 00:21:56,017
You want your friends to be
subpoenaed and get sworn in?

457
00:21:56,069 --> 00:21:58,186
No.
Come on in.

458
00:21:58,238 --> 00:22:00,939
Keep calling me.
I want to hear from you once an hour.

459
00:22:00,991 --> 00:22:03,942
- What's going on?
- I need a block tonight. Five minutes, 4:30.

460
00:22:03,994 --> 00:22:05,944
- For what?
- I want to interview Bree Dorrit.

461
00:22:05,996 --> 00:22:09,331
Isn't that the temporary
ACN Digital editor?

462
00:22:09,366 --> 00:22:12,200
- Yeah.
<i>- Why do you want to interview someone who works for us?</i>

463
00:22:12,252 --> 00:22:14,002
I want to discuss
an app he has...

464
00:22:14,037 --> 00:22:17,372
We have called Human Flesh
Hunter or something.

465
00:22:17,374 --> 00:22:19,207
I know I've missed
some meetings,

466
00:22:19,259 --> 00:22:22,294
but we really don't have an app
called Hunting Human Flesh?

467
00:22:22,346 --> 00:22:23,712
No. Maybe.
I don't know.

468
00:22:23,764 --> 00:22:25,931
I don't like to do
stories about us.

469
00:22:25,966 --> 00:22:28,133
I know,
but this is about everyone.

470
00:22:33,607 --> 00:22:37,692
Lady Gaga has been
relatively silent on Twitter

471
00:22:37,728 --> 00:22:40,445
since her hip surgery
last February.

472
00:22:40,481 --> 00:22:43,615
But today she broke
her silence and tweeted

473
00:22:43,650 --> 00:22:46,234
in support of...
In defense of...

474
00:22:46,286 --> 00:22:50,405
In support of overturning
the Defense of Marriage Act.

475
00:22:50,491 --> 00:22:53,542
Sloan's going
to interview her manager.

476
00:22:54,968 --> 00:22:58,079
You're still able to hear
yourself when you speak, right?

477
00:22:58,081 --> 00:23:00,999
- Yeah.
- I'm glad Lady Gaga wants to engage people...

478
00:23:01,051 --> 00:23:03,251
She has 40 million
Twitter followers.

479
00:23:03,303 --> 00:23:06,087
Does her manager bring expertise
to the table on marriage equality?

480
00:23:06,089 --> 00:23:08,089
What kind of expertise
is there on that subject?

481
00:23:08,141 --> 00:23:10,725
- Someone who's familiar with state legislature.
- Just block out the time.

482
00:23:10,761 --> 00:23:11,927
We don't have the time tonight.

483
00:23:11,929 --> 00:23:13,395
We only have him for one night.

484
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:15,647
Well, I don't want to get
scooped on Gaga's manager.

485
00:23:15,682 --> 00:23:17,599
Hey, you know what, Mac?

486
00:23:17,601 --> 00:23:21,603
How about she brings 40 million
people to a civil rights debate?

487
00:23:21,605 --> 00:23:24,189
I don't think gay couples
who'd just like to move

488
00:23:24,241 --> 00:23:26,408
the fuck on with their lives are
as choosy about that discussion.

489
00:23:26,443 --> 00:23:28,443
It was trending, Charlie.
It still is.

490
00:23:28,495 --> 00:23:31,580
Lady Gaga's tweets,
they're trending number one.

491
00:23:31,615 --> 00:23:34,165
So Pruit picked up the phone and said,
"Do this."

492
00:23:34,201 --> 00:23:36,918
That's why you book her manager,
to report on the tweets.

493
00:23:36,954 --> 00:23:38,253
Whatever.
Put it in the rundown.

494
00:23:38,288 --> 00:23:40,255
- I don't have room.
- There's always room.

495
00:23:40,290 --> 00:23:42,424
Tell me what you'd like to cut.

496
00:23:42,459 --> 00:23:44,759
The Supreme Court
struck down portions

497
00:23:44,795 --> 00:23:46,678
of the Voting Rights Act
this morning.

498
00:23:46,713 --> 00:23:49,130
IAF fighter jets
attacked the Gaza Strip

499
00:23:49,132 --> 00:23:50,932
after rockets were fired
at southern Israel.

500
00:23:50,968 --> 00:23:53,685
Ed Markey won John Kerry's
seat in the Senate.

501
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,303
- Snowden's on his way to Cuba.
- Cut my thing.

502
00:23:55,305 --> 00:23:56,688
I didn't have the time
for it anyway.

503
00:23:56,723 --> 00:23:58,306
- What was it?
<i>- Nothing.</i>

504
00:23:58,358 --> 00:24:00,358
- ACNgage?
- Yeah, how'd you know?

505
00:24:00,444 --> 00:24:02,143
- Pruit wants it.
- How did he know?

506
00:24:02,145 --> 00:24:05,397
The guy, Bree,
he's got a relationship with Pruit.

507
00:24:05,449 --> 00:24:09,818
He told him you were putting him
on the air and Pruit liked it.

508
00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:11,036
It's a promo for the site.

509
00:24:11,071 --> 00:24:13,655
Yeah, that is what it is.

510
00:24:13,657 --> 00:24:16,124
You'll have to cut something
else or make trims.

511
00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:18,910
In an historic
5-4 decision,

512
00:24:18,962 --> 00:24:21,830
the US Supreme Court did something
that we'll tell you about tomorrow.

513
00:24:21,832 --> 00:24:24,215
- We're clear, right?
- We are.

514
00:24:29,006 --> 00:24:32,140
- I'm really sorry.
- Not your fault.

515
00:24:32,175 --> 00:24:33,808
Tell me about
the five-minute interview

516
00:24:33,844 --> 00:24:35,677
we're going to do
with ourselves.

517
00:24:45,355 --> 00:24:47,572
You sure you wouldn't rather
do this someplace else?

518
00:24:47,608 --> 00:24:49,741
Those are the Footnotes.

519
00:24:49,776 --> 00:24:51,493
The pitch pipe lives
in the room next door

520
00:24:51,528 --> 00:24:53,495
and they practice
there sometimes.

521
00:24:53,530 --> 00:24:56,031
You get used to it.
It's kind of nice.

522
00:24:56,033 --> 00:24:57,949
I just meant...

523
00:24:58,001 --> 00:25:01,586
If I can avoid it, I'd rather not be alone
with a young woman in her dorm room.

524
00:25:01,622 --> 00:25:04,923
You want witnesses in case I
say you forced yourself on me.

525
00:25:04,958 --> 00:25:06,758
- No, no.
- Don.

526
00:25:06,843 --> 00:25:08,677
- <i>Yeah?</i>
- I was raped.

527
00:25:08,712 --> 00:25:11,296
- I wasn't worried...
- I was raped.

528
00:25:11,348 --> 00:25:13,598
I went to a party
at one of the eating clubs.

529
00:25:13,634 --> 00:25:15,050
I drank too much tequila.

530
00:25:15,102 --> 00:25:17,886
There was molly, there was coke,
there were mushrooms,

531
00:25:17,938 --> 00:25:19,471
and I took anything
that was put in front of me.

532
00:25:19,523 --> 00:25:22,524
<i>I wound up in a bathroom throwing
up and then passing out.</i>

533
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:26,778
And the next thing I knew,
two guys were helping me into a bedroom.

534
00:25:26,813 --> 00:25:28,647
They told me
I needed to lie down.

535
00:25:28,699 --> 00:25:31,650
When we got in there,
they took my clothes off

536
00:25:31,702 --> 00:25:34,202
and they took turns raping me.

537
00:25:40,077 --> 00:25:41,876
And the next day
you called the police?

538
00:25:41,912 --> 00:25:44,963
City police, campus police,
and the DA's office.

539
00:25:44,998 --> 00:25:47,666
I know who the two guys are
and I know where they live.

540
00:25:47,718 --> 00:25:50,502
That should be the easiest arrest
they're ever going to make.

541
00:25:50,554 --> 00:25:52,804
- <i>Nobody pursued it.</i>
- The kind of rape you're talking about

542
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:55,640
- is difficult and usually impossible to prove.
- It's not a kind of rape.

543
00:25:55,676 --> 00:25:57,809
Sure.

544
00:26:02,516 --> 00:26:04,599
How did you find me?

545
00:26:04,601 --> 00:26:07,352
- The original email?
<i>- Yeah.</i>

546
00:26:07,404 --> 00:26:09,354
Just some detective work.

547
00:26:09,406 --> 00:26:11,189
I really want to know.

548
00:26:11,241 --> 00:26:13,992
Well,
on the web page there's a bio.

549
00:26:14,027 --> 00:26:16,111
You say you're
a third-year psych major.

550
00:26:16,113 --> 00:26:18,947
And later you say you live
across from Dillon Gym

551
00:26:18,999 --> 00:26:21,499
and one of these days you're
gonna start working out.

552
00:26:21,535 --> 00:26:24,419
- You also wrote that you love the Phat Lady.
- Right.

553
00:26:24,454 --> 00:26:26,588
I got a list of all female
psych majors on campus

554
00:26:26,623 --> 00:26:29,007
and cross-referenced it with students
living in the upperclassmen dorms

555
00:26:29,042 --> 00:26:31,176
across from the gym,
which brought me to Cuyler Hall.

556
00:26:31,211 --> 00:26:33,545
- Wow.
<i>- I asked some people in my office</i>

557
00:26:33,630 --> 00:26:35,046
if they knew the band
the Phat Lady.

558
00:26:35,098 --> 00:26:38,299
- Really?
- And a Princeton grad laughed and said...

559
00:26:38,301 --> 00:26:41,302
- It's a sandwich.
- It is the most popular sandwich

560
00:26:41,304 --> 00:26:43,054
not on the menu
at Hoagie Haven.

561
00:26:43,106 --> 00:26:46,191
So we went to Costa,
one of the managers at Hoagie Haven,

562
00:26:46,226 --> 00:26:48,727
with pictures of the four female
psych majors living at Cuyler Hall

563
00:26:48,779 --> 00:26:51,112
and asked him if any
were regular customers.

564
00:26:51,148 --> 00:26:53,815
He pointed at your picture and said,
"That's my girl Mary."

565
00:26:53,867 --> 00:26:56,901
That's a lot of detective work.
That's old school.

566
00:26:56,953 --> 00:26:58,903
I was trying
to impress my boss.

567
00:26:58,955 --> 00:27:01,206
- My boss's boss.
- Did it work?

568
00:27:01,241 --> 00:27:03,792
He wants you in the studio
along with Jeff.

569
00:27:04,995 --> 00:27:06,745
At the same time.

570
00:27:08,915 --> 00:27:11,916
<i>Elliot Hirsch would be moderating,
I guess you'd call it.</i>

571
00:27:11,968 --> 00:27:13,885
It's very promotable.

572
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,970
It'd bring a lot of new
viewers to my show,

573
00:27:16,006 --> 00:27:19,390
a lot of younger viewers who
drive a lot of Internet traffic.

574
00:27:19,426 --> 00:27:21,176
And I'd score
some points at work.

575
00:27:21,178 --> 00:27:23,061
And you're here
for a preinterview.

576
00:27:23,096 --> 00:27:26,080
I'm here to beg you
not to do it.

577
00:27:37,694 --> 00:27:40,695
The travel office transferred
me to talent relations,

578
00:27:40,747 --> 00:27:42,497
who transferred me to Tess,
who said,

579
00:27:42,532 --> 00:27:46,000
"It's so romantic that you guys
are on a stakeout together

580
00:27:46,036 --> 00:27:48,369
in the Moscow Airport.
You're his destiny."

581
00:27:48,371 --> 00:27:52,123
I said, "Tess, we were supposed to
have tickets waiting to Havana."

582
00:27:52,175 --> 00:27:53,958
She said,
"Hang on, let me check."

583
00:27:54,010 --> 00:27:56,511
Then she got back
on the phone and said,

584
00:27:56,546 --> 00:27:58,880
"Did you know there's more
than one city named Havana?"

585
00:27:58,882 --> 00:28:00,215
We have tickets to Spain?

586
00:28:00,217 --> 00:28:02,934
There are layovers in Dvinsk,
Rotterdam, and Berlin.

587
00:28:02,969 --> 00:28:05,019
And we change planes in Madrid.
How's it looking here?

588
00:28:05,055 --> 00:28:07,889
There are three people in front of us,
five people in back of us.

589
00:28:07,941 --> 00:28:10,608
As passengers come to claim their seats,
the people in back get dismissed.

590
00:28:10,644 --> 00:28:13,278
It's like that last
helicopter out of Saigon.

591
00:28:13,313 --> 00:28:14,612
I know how standby works.

592
00:28:14,648 --> 00:28:16,731
I was answering your question.

593
00:28:21,238 --> 00:28:24,372
It really would have killed
you to apologize to Hallie?

594
00:28:24,407 --> 00:28:26,407
You would have gotten
sick and died?

595
00:28:26,459 --> 00:28:28,710
As soon as you said
the word romantic...

596
00:28:28,745 --> 00:28:30,628
- I didn't say it, Tess did.
- You recounted it.

597
00:28:30,664 --> 00:28:32,914
I was telling a funny story.

598
00:28:32,966 --> 00:28:34,883
As soon as you said romantic,
I knew we were heading for Hallie.

599
00:28:34,918 --> 00:28:36,334
After all, it's been two hours.

600
00:28:36,386 --> 00:28:39,053
- You would have tragically died from...
- I did apologize.

601
00:28:39,089 --> 00:28:40,839
"I'm sorry I overreacted.

602
00:28:40,891 --> 00:28:44,592
In fact, I'm so sorry that I
sent this apology in a text."

603
00:28:44,644 --> 00:28:46,227
How should it have
been delivered?

604
00:28:46,263 --> 00:28:48,730
- In person for starters.
- She doesn't want to see me.

605
00:28:48,765 --> 00:28:50,932
You know what you should do?

606
00:28:50,984 --> 00:28:52,100
Tess thinks you're my destiny?

607
00:28:52,152 --> 00:28:53,401
- Call her right now.
- Tess?

608
00:28:53,436 --> 00:28:55,153
Hallie.
Call her right now.

609
00:28:55,188 --> 00:28:57,572
You're halfway around
the world on a big story,

610
00:28:57,607 --> 00:28:59,240
but you just wanted
to hear her voice.

611
00:28:59,276 --> 00:29:01,192
Do you want her back, Jim?

612
00:29:01,244 --> 00:29:03,695
- Those two are on the plane.
- Do you want her back?

613
00:29:03,747 --> 00:29:06,030
- Of course.
- Then do what I'm telling you

614
00:29:06,082 --> 00:29:07,782
and wait for
further instructions.

615
00:29:07,834 --> 00:29:10,118
- Do it.
- You can hold our place?

616
00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:12,587
Yeah, I think I can handle
standing on the ground.

617
00:29:12,622 --> 00:29:13,922
'Cause it's not a bad idea.

618
00:29:13,957 --> 00:29:15,874
Don't get into any,
you know, areas.

619
00:29:15,926 --> 00:29:18,293
Just tell her you wanted
to hear her voice

620
00:29:18,295 --> 00:29:21,462
and that you love her and that
you'll call her from Cuba.

621
00:29:28,221 --> 00:29:30,471
All right, I'll be right back.

622
00:30:07,310 --> 00:30:09,644
- What happened?
- It was voicemail. I hung up.

623
00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:13,348
- You'll keep trying, right?
- Yeah.

624
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:15,233
You did good.

625
00:30:21,107 --> 00:30:23,191
I already know what he'll say.

626
00:30:23,193 --> 00:30:25,243
So do I.
I've spoken to him.

627
00:30:25,278 --> 00:30:27,862
- He denied it?
- Yeah.

628
00:30:27,864 --> 00:30:30,365
What did he say happened?

629
00:30:31,534 --> 00:30:33,084
You don't want to hear it.

630
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:35,420
- Yes, I do.
- It's upsetting.

631
00:30:35,455 --> 00:30:38,289
I have a new standard
for what upsets me.

632
00:30:38,341 --> 00:30:40,041
- He said it was consensual?
- Yeah.

633
00:30:40,043 --> 00:30:44,379
How can it be consensual if one of the
consenting parties isn't conscious?

634
00:30:44,464 --> 00:30:46,931
- It can't be.
- So what did he say?

635
00:30:46,967 --> 00:30:49,434
Mary, he says you said,
"Fuck me. Fuck me. Fuck me.

636
00:30:49,469 --> 00:30:51,185
Get two guys in here
who will fuck me."

637
00:30:51,221 --> 00:30:52,854
Yeah, that...

638
00:30:52,889 --> 00:30:54,555
That sounds like me.

639
00:30:54,607 --> 00:30:56,357
And he's changing
his story a little.

640
00:30:56,393 --> 00:30:58,059
That's something that
would come out in a trial.

641
00:30:58,061 --> 00:30:59,227
There's not gonna be a trial.

642
00:30:59,229 --> 00:31:00,528
There's not gonna be an arrest.

643
00:31:00,563 --> 00:31:02,563
And there's not gonna
be an investigation.

644
00:31:02,615 --> 00:31:06,117
Mine's gonna be one of the
700,000 untested rape kits,

645
00:31:06,152 --> 00:31:07,986
so I started this website.

646
00:31:08,038 --> 00:31:11,572
- Do you know who Sloan Sabbith is?
- Sure.

647
00:31:11,574 --> 00:31:13,624
- She's my girlfriend.
- Well done.

648
00:31:13,660 --> 00:31:16,077
About, I don't know,
a year and a half ago,

649
00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:19,580
she was dating this guy and they
broke up and he was pissed.

650
00:31:19,632 --> 00:31:21,499
She'd posed for him,
some naked pictures,

651
00:31:21,551 --> 00:31:23,751
and he posted them on a site
called RevengePorn.com.

652
00:31:23,803 --> 00:31:25,887
I remember.
What did she do?

653
00:31:25,922 --> 00:31:28,389
<i>She broke his jaw,
but I'm not recommending that.</i>

654
00:31:28,425 --> 00:31:30,842
This isn't revenge.
It's a warning.

655
00:31:30,894 --> 00:31:33,511
It's a public service.
Do not go on a date with these guys.

656
00:31:33,563 --> 00:31:35,430
<i>Do not go to a party
with these guys.</i>

657
00:31:35,432 --> 00:31:37,148
Do not give
these guys a job ever.

658
00:31:37,183 --> 00:31:39,400
Wait, they're avoiding jail and
you think I'm being too harsh?

659
00:31:39,436 --> 00:31:41,986
Don't you think there's a chance that
somebody's gonna use the site as revenge?

660
00:31:42,022 --> 00:31:45,073
<i>That somebody's gonna make up a
story and ruin a kid's life?</i>

661
00:31:45,108 --> 00:31:47,492
Jeff got into Stanford Medical School.
Not anymore.

662
00:31:47,527 --> 00:31:49,610
There were NFL teams looking at Brandon.
Not anymore.

663
00:31:49,612 --> 00:31:51,496
Yeah,
you can imagine how sad that makes me.

664
00:31:51,531 --> 00:31:53,865
Don't you think there's a chance that somebody,
a woman who feels rejected...

665
00:31:53,917 --> 00:31:55,583
Yeah, bitches be bitches.
I get it.

666
00:31:55,618 --> 00:31:57,118
I'm just saying
that if a grown man

667
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,954
who works in arbitrage at one of
the biggest banks in the world

668
00:31:59,956 --> 00:32:02,290
can post naked pictures
of his ex on RevengePorn.com...

669
00:32:02,342 --> 00:32:05,843
Yes, I think there's a chance and
I've weighed the cost benefit.

670
00:32:05,879 --> 00:32:09,180
I have. If another girl got raped
because I didn't say anything

671
00:32:09,215 --> 00:32:11,132
or because someone else
didn't say anything...

672
00:32:11,134 --> 00:32:13,134
- <i>I know.</i>
- You don't know.

673
00:32:13,186 --> 00:32:14,602
And you're right about that,
too.

674
00:32:14,637 --> 00:32:16,521
Then what am I wrong about?

675
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:24,145
What am I wrong about?

676
00:32:25,148 --> 00:32:27,899
I don't like Jews.
I said it.

677
00:32:27,951 --> 00:32:30,318
People are afraid to speak
their mind these days.

678
00:32:30,370 --> 00:32:32,403
I haven't noticed that.

679
00:32:33,656 --> 00:32:37,158
First of all,
we've got, what, 3%?

680
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,244
- Is that how many Jews there are, 3% of America?
- A little less.

681
00:32:40,296 --> 00:32:42,713
Less than 3% of Americans

682
00:32:42,749 --> 00:32:45,466
controlling the banks,
the media, Hollywood.

683
00:32:45,502 --> 00:32:47,502
They didn't take those
things in an armed assault.

684
00:32:47,504 --> 00:32:49,420
<i>That's exactly how they did it.</i>

685
00:32:49,472 --> 00:32:52,306
<i>Their grandparents came here
from the Polish ghettos</i>

686
00:32:52,342 --> 00:32:54,475
and the Russian villages
and they told their sons,

687
00:32:54,511 --> 00:32:56,260
"Don't work with your hands."

688
00:32:56,312 --> 00:32:59,764
Go to law school. You go to medical school.
You go to business school.

689
00:32:59,816 --> 00:33:02,817
You don't get calluses on your hands.
You wear a suit to work.

690
00:33:02,852 --> 00:33:04,716
Given the time they came from
and the one that was coming,

691
00:33:04,739 --> 00:33:05,831
it was pretty good advice.

692
00:33:05,855 --> 00:33:08,239
<i>And guys like you worship them.</i>

693
00:33:08,274 --> 00:33:11,025
You'd give anything to be Jewish.
You're Protestant, right?

694
00:33:11,027 --> 00:33:13,744
- Catholic.
- Nah, not on both sides.

695
00:33:13,780 --> 00:33:16,497
- My mother was Catholic.
- So is my wife.

696
00:33:16,533 --> 00:33:19,951
- Is that why you hit her?
- No, I'm not prejudiced.

697
00:33:20,003 --> 00:33:21,786
You assume I am
'cause I do real work.

698
00:33:21,838 --> 00:33:24,338
- What do I do?
<i>- Please, buddy.</i>

699
00:33:24,374 --> 00:33:27,008
- <i>You want to trade jobs with me?</i>
- No.

700
00:33:27,043 --> 00:33:28,543
'Cause you're too smart
for what I do.

701
00:33:28,545 --> 00:33:29,844
Just like the Jews.

702
00:33:29,879 --> 00:33:32,880
That's why your father drank.

703
00:33:36,386 --> 00:33:37,969
I'm making
an executive decision.

704
00:33:38,021 --> 00:33:39,720
Should I quiet everyone down?

705
00:33:39,772 --> 00:33:41,522
We can't be in this line because A...
You know,

706
00:33:41,558 --> 00:33:43,858
and B... He'll have already talked
to everyone who's boarded.

707
00:33:43,893 --> 00:33:45,059
We need to be
on the plane early.

708
00:33:45,111 --> 00:33:46,227
Let's go back
to the first plan.

709
00:33:46,229 --> 00:33:47,862
No reporter is gonna
sell us their ticket.

710
00:33:47,897 --> 00:33:50,148
There are people on this
flight who aren't reporters.

711
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,033
Let's look around
and identify them.

712
00:33:56,289 --> 00:33:58,489
Those two are on
their honeymoon.

713
00:34:05,215 --> 00:34:08,082
I do, just a little.
My husband does not.

714
00:34:08,134 --> 00:34:10,134
I'm Maggie Jordan
and this is Jim Harper.

715
00:34:10,170 --> 00:34:12,503
We are from an American
news agency.

716
00:34:12,555 --> 00:34:15,840
Atlantis Cable News.

717
00:34:20,263 --> 00:34:23,731
He says Atlantis is a lost...

718
00:34:23,766 --> 00:34:26,150
Hercules, Zeus.

719
00:34:26,186 --> 00:34:28,769
- Mythological.
- Mythological city.

720
00:34:28,771 --> 00:34:30,488
It is,
but the news agency is real.

721
00:34:30,523 --> 00:34:31,772
- Go faster.
- Shut up.

722
00:34:31,824 --> 00:34:33,524
Are you on your honeymoon, too?

723
00:34:33,576 --> 00:34:36,244
No,
we're reporting an important story

724
00:34:36,279 --> 00:34:38,246
and we need to get
on that flight.

725
00:34:38,281 --> 00:34:40,498
And we'd like to buy
your tickets to Havana

726
00:34:40,533 --> 00:34:44,001
and give you two free
tickets to Madrid.

727
00:34:44,037 --> 00:34:46,671
- Tell them Madrid's closer.
- They know where Madrid is.

728
00:34:46,706 --> 00:34:48,923
- Just remind them.
- We know where Madrid is.

729
00:34:48,958 --> 00:34:51,175
He wants your watch.

730
00:34:51,211 --> 00:34:53,127
He wants your watch.

731
00:34:53,179 --> 00:34:56,097
This watch was a graduation
present from my parents.

732
00:34:56,132 --> 00:34:58,182
Could I write you a check
for some money instead?

733
00:35:00,970 --> 00:35:02,803
We'll take the money, too.

734
00:35:06,609 --> 00:35:09,060
He liked my shirt
and my pants, too.

735
00:35:09,112 --> 00:35:11,562
And everything that was in
my suitcase and my suitcase.

736
00:35:11,614 --> 00:35:13,197
Hey, she took my <i>News Night</i>
baseball cap.

737
00:35:13,233 --> 00:35:15,483
I think we have more of those.

738
00:35:15,485 --> 00:35:17,318
These are our seats.

739
00:35:21,824 --> 00:35:23,991
All right.

740
00:35:24,043 --> 00:35:26,077
We'll see him
come on from here.

741
00:35:27,547 --> 00:35:31,165
- I look like an idiot.
- You look kind of cute.

742
00:35:32,635 --> 00:35:34,635
I look like I...

743
00:35:34,671 --> 00:35:37,672
just really, really,
really like the Olympics.

744
00:35:43,846 --> 00:35:46,514
You never called Hallie,
did you?

745
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,233
No.

746
00:35:49,269 --> 00:35:51,352
Jesus Christ, Jim.

747
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:55,740
The law is plainly
failing rape victims.

748
00:35:55,775 --> 00:35:57,441
That must be obvious to you.

749
00:35:57,493 --> 00:36:00,194
It is, but in fairness,
the law wasn't built to serve victims.

750
00:36:00,246 --> 00:36:02,947
- In fairness?
- I know.

751
00:36:05,702 --> 00:36:07,868
Do you believe me?

752
00:36:07,870 --> 00:36:09,587
Do I believe you?
Of course I do.

753
00:36:09,622 --> 00:36:11,839
- Seriously.
- I'm not here on a fact-finding mission.

754
00:36:11,874 --> 00:36:14,292
I'm just curious.
Be really honest.

755
00:36:14,344 --> 00:36:17,094
Okay.

756
00:36:17,130 --> 00:36:19,046
I've heard two
competing stories.

757
00:36:19,098 --> 00:36:20,514
One from a very credible woman

758
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:22,633
who as far as I can see
has no reason to lie.

759
00:36:22,685 --> 00:36:25,019
<i>The other from a guy I judge
to be a little sketchy</i>

760
00:36:25,054 --> 00:36:27,221
who has every reason
to lie and I am...

761
00:36:27,223 --> 00:36:29,357
I'm obligated to believe
the sketchy guy.

762
00:36:29,392 --> 00:36:32,026
This isn't a courtroom.

763
00:36:32,061 --> 00:36:34,612
You're not legally obligated
to presume innocence.

764
00:36:34,647 --> 00:36:37,064
- I believe I'm morally obligated.
- You know, you're a good guy,

765
00:36:37,116 --> 00:36:39,200
but do people tell you a lot
that your head's up your ass?

766
00:36:39,235 --> 00:36:42,570
They do,
and I absolutely allow for that possibility.

767
00:36:42,572 --> 00:36:47,074
I'm the guy who goes around saying OJ's
not guilty because a jury said so.

768
00:36:47,126 --> 00:36:49,243
I'm not gonna get a jury.

769
00:36:49,295 --> 00:36:51,078
I know,
and I can imagine how frustrating...

770
00:36:51,130 --> 00:36:53,080
No, you can't imagine.

771
00:36:54,384 --> 00:36:56,417
No, I can't.

772
00:36:56,469 --> 00:37:00,421
But it is a huge, dangerous,

773
00:37:00,423 --> 00:37:03,841
scary-as-shit mistake
to convene your own trial

774
00:37:03,893 --> 00:37:06,727
in front of a television audience
where there's no due process,

775
00:37:06,763 --> 00:37:09,680
no lawyers, no discovery,
no rules of procedure,

776
00:37:09,732 --> 00:37:13,351
no decisions on admissible evidence,
threat of perjury,

777
00:37:13,436 --> 00:37:15,319
confrontation of witnesses
or any of the things we do...

778
00:37:15,355 --> 00:37:17,772
To ensure that rapists go
to Stanford Medical School.

779
00:37:17,774 --> 00:37:20,358
To ensure an innocent person
isn't destroyed.

780
00:37:20,410 --> 00:37:22,777
The law can acquit.
The Internet never will.

781
00:37:22,829 --> 00:37:25,446
The Internet is used
for vigilantism every day.

782
00:37:25,448 --> 00:37:26,947
But this is a whole new level

783
00:37:26,949 --> 00:37:28,783
and if we go there,
we're truly fucked.

784
00:37:28,785 --> 00:37:32,203
- I'm not a vigilante.
<i>- Do you want to live in a world where...</i>

785
00:37:32,255 --> 00:37:35,122
Do you want to hear
the advice I get?

786
00:37:35,174 --> 00:37:36,957
I mean, this is real advice.

787
00:37:37,009 --> 00:37:39,293
In pamphlets.

788
00:37:39,345 --> 00:37:43,180
Say you have a boyfriend.
Wear a wedding ring.

789
00:37:43,216 --> 00:37:46,717
I'm supposed to protect
myself from a man

790
00:37:46,769 --> 00:37:49,970
by pretending I'm the
property of another man.

791
00:37:49,972 --> 00:37:52,857
And, of course,
there's no shortage of good fashion advice.

792
00:37:52,892 --> 00:37:54,358
- <i>Mary.</i>
- When you came in here,

793
00:37:54,394 --> 00:37:56,110
you wanted to go
to a public place

794
00:37:56,145 --> 00:37:58,446
because you were scared
I'd cry rape.

795
00:38:00,316 --> 00:38:02,283
I'm scared of getting raped.

796
00:38:02,318 --> 00:38:05,903
<i>I'm scared all the time.</i>

797
00:38:07,407 --> 00:38:10,074
All the time.

798
00:38:10,126 --> 00:38:12,543
So you know what my site does?

799
00:38:13,663 --> 00:38:15,880
It scares you.

800
00:38:15,915 --> 00:38:18,799
It scares the living shit
out of any guy

801
00:38:18,835 --> 00:38:21,469
who thinks even once
about putting his hands

802
00:38:21,504 --> 00:38:24,755
on someone
without an invitation.

803
00:38:24,807 --> 00:38:28,259
You're right to name
your attacker.

804
00:38:28,311 --> 00:38:30,811
You may even be obligated to.

805
00:38:33,850 --> 00:38:36,934
But the site is gonna
clobber an innocent person

806
00:38:36,986 --> 00:38:38,602
<i>and there is no chance
that it won't.</i>

807
00:38:38,654 --> 00:38:42,239
<i>And if you face off with
the guy you've accused on TV,</i>

808
00:38:42,275 --> 00:38:44,692
it is going to be
a lawless food fight

809
00:38:44,694 --> 00:38:47,495
with irreversible,
irretrievable consequences.

810
00:38:47,530 --> 00:38:50,364
Teams will be formed,
you will be slut-shamed,

811
00:38:50,366 --> 00:38:53,701
and you won't get the
justice you're looking for.

812
00:38:53,703 --> 00:38:56,370
That's why I'm asking
you to refuse.

813
00:38:57,707 --> 00:39:00,007
I don't understand why
you need me to refuse.

814
00:39:00,042 --> 00:39:02,376
It's your show.
Why don't you just not do it?

815
00:39:02,428 --> 00:39:05,463
I've been overruled.
It's a promotable story

816
00:39:05,515 --> 00:39:06,764
that'll bring in
a younger audience.

817
00:39:06,799 --> 00:39:08,466
I don't have
a problem with that.

818
00:39:08,551 --> 00:39:09,850
It's sports, Mary.

819
00:39:09,886 --> 00:39:13,304
<i>It'll be covered like sports.</i>

820
00:39:13,356 --> 00:39:15,439
I'm gonna win this time.

821
00:39:21,375 --> 00:39:22,813
All right.

822
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,400
Thanks for hearing me out.

823
00:39:28,287 --> 00:39:30,404
<i>We'll be in touch with you.</i>

824
00:39:39,382 --> 00:39:42,750
<i>- You miss your wife?</i>
- Yes.

825
00:39:42,802 --> 00:39:45,419
Uh, yes.
Yes, Mr. Chairman.

826
00:39:45,471 --> 00:39:46,921
<i>I miss my wife.
That's affirmative.</i>

827
00:39:46,923 --> 00:39:48,722
I was married to her
for 11 minutes

828
00:39:48,758 --> 00:39:52,476
before I was taken to jail.
Yes, I miss my wife.

829
00:39:52,512 --> 00:39:55,896
So is she like you or is she like,
I don't know, what do you call it?

830
00:39:55,932 --> 00:39:58,265
- I don't know what you're asking.
- A trophy wife.

831
00:39:58,267 --> 00:40:00,651
A guy like you could get,
you know.

832
00:40:00,686 --> 00:40:02,603
Is she a trophy wife
or is she smart?

833
00:40:02,655 --> 00:40:05,022
She's very smart.

834
00:40:05,074 --> 00:40:07,825
<i>Is that something you're saying
because people say that?</i>

835
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:10,160
She went to school
at Cambridge in England.

836
00:40:10,196 --> 00:40:12,780
She's considered one of the
best in the world at her job...

837
00:40:12,832 --> 00:40:15,583
- You've got to stop being a prick.
- What did I do now?

838
00:40:15,618 --> 00:40:18,619
I know that Cambridge is in goddamn England,
shithead.

839
00:40:18,621 --> 00:40:21,088
<i>Why is the first thing you tell
me is where she went to school?</i>

840
00:40:21,123 --> 00:40:23,958
My wife is smarter than I
am in every way imaginable

841
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,509
and it never makes me mad.

842
00:40:25,545 --> 00:40:28,178
I don't feel a crippling
inferiority complex

843
00:40:28,214 --> 00:40:30,514
turn into rage
and bad decisions

844
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:32,182
when I think about
her being smart.

845
00:40:32,218 --> 00:40:34,969
- You're saying I do?
<i>- It seems to come up a lot.</i>

846
00:40:34,971 --> 00:40:36,637
I don't like media types.

847
00:40:36,722 --> 00:40:38,556
- East Coast elites.
- Yeah.

848
00:40:38,641 --> 00:40:40,307
That's a thoroughly
original opinion.

849
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:42,526
<i>I've never heard that before.</i>

850
00:40:42,562 --> 00:40:46,697
See, you people think
we can't recognize sarcasm.

851
00:40:46,732 --> 00:40:49,366
We can.
We just call it being an asshole.

852
00:40:49,402 --> 00:40:51,151
And we call you a shit kicker.

853
00:40:51,153 --> 00:40:53,404
And you still don't think you
look down at some people.

854
00:40:53,456 --> 00:40:54,655
Down is where some people are.

855
00:40:54,707 --> 00:40:56,824
Hmm.

856
00:40:59,996 --> 00:41:02,379
What's your mission
to civilize?

857
00:41:03,549 --> 00:41:05,215
Who told you about that?

858
00:41:05,251 --> 00:41:06,800
- <i>You did.</i>
- When?

859
00:41:06,836 --> 00:41:09,169
- A while ago.
- I don't remember that.

860
00:41:09,221 --> 00:41:11,555
<i>Mission to civilize,
what is that?</i>

861
00:41:11,591 --> 00:41:13,007
Nothing.

862
00:41:13,059 --> 00:41:15,059
- <i>It's not nothing.</i>
- It's just a joke.

863
00:41:15,094 --> 00:41:16,644
- <i>No, it's not.</i>
- It's nothing.

864
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:19,063
<i>What is it?</i>

865
00:41:19,098 --> 00:41:21,849
It's a reference
to Don Quixote.

866
00:41:21,851 --> 00:41:23,517
- The knight?
- He wasn't a real knight.

867
00:41:23,569 --> 00:41:26,270
He was an old man who was delusional.
He thought he was a knight.

868
00:41:26,322 --> 00:41:29,523
He took on a world that was
bleak and morally corrupt.

869
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,027
How'd he do?

870
00:41:33,029 --> 00:41:35,029
He got his ass kicked.

871
00:41:36,532 --> 00:41:39,583
See?
And that's the thing.

872
00:41:39,619 --> 00:41:42,703
I don't want to see you
get your ass kicked.

873
00:41:46,926 --> 00:41:50,511
That's... That's not true.
That was dishonest.

874
00:41:50,546 --> 00:41:54,298
I badly want to see you
get your ass kicked.

875
00:41:55,055 --> 00:41:56,934
I know.

876
00:41:58,721 --> 00:42:01,305
And that picture
of you and your father,

877
00:42:01,357 --> 00:42:04,725
I'll bet he wasn't trying to
teach you about civic morality.

878
00:42:04,777 --> 00:42:08,979
I'll bet he was just trying
to teach you to fish.

879
00:42:15,655 --> 00:42:17,955
Please,
you have to take your seats now.

880
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:19,957
<i>We're pushing back from the
gate and all passengers</i>

881
00:42:19,992 --> 00:42:23,661
must take their seats, please.
Thank you.

882
00:42:25,881 --> 00:42:28,248
We had seats across
the aisle from him.

883
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:32,553
The honeymooners had two seats across
the aisle from Edward Snowden.

884
00:42:32,588 --> 00:42:35,639
Boris and Natasha
had the golden tickets.

885
00:42:35,675 --> 00:42:37,725
We'd have had him the whole
flight except for one thing.

886
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,060
- He's not...
- He's not on the plane. You know where he is?

887
00:42:40,096 --> 00:42:42,680
- Probably back in the airport.
- Yeah.

888
00:42:42,732 --> 00:42:46,767
So we'll be flying 600 miles
an hour away from the story.

889
00:42:47,937 --> 00:42:50,487
Fuck!

890
00:42:53,993 --> 00:42:56,360
Why didn't you call her?

891
00:42:56,412 --> 00:42:58,078
What?

892
00:42:58,114 --> 00:43:00,330
Why didn't you call Hallie?

893
00:43:00,366 --> 00:43:02,116
You're a noodge, Maggie.
You know that?

894
00:43:02,168 --> 00:43:05,035
I'm just asking.

895
00:43:05,087 --> 00:43:07,755
If you really like her,
it's a stupid thing...

896
00:43:07,790 --> 00:43:09,923
I like you.

897
00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:13,927
And I don't really know
why you don't know that.

898
00:43:19,885 --> 00:43:21,301
Because...

899
00:43:21,303 --> 00:43:24,521
Because if you wanted to be with me,
you'd be with me.

900
00:43:24,557 --> 00:43:26,774
That's just not at all true.

901
00:43:26,809 --> 00:43:29,643
You were with Don
when I met you.

902
00:43:29,695 --> 00:43:31,645
You never called me
from New Hampshire.

903
00:43:31,647 --> 00:43:34,648
- Yes, I did.
- No, you didn't. Ever.

904
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:38,035
And you knew I had split up
with Don and you knew why.

905
00:43:38,070 --> 00:43:40,070
You went through Lisa,
you went through Hallie.

906
00:43:40,122 --> 00:43:42,322
And you never called me
from New Hampshire.

907
00:43:42,374 --> 00:43:44,658
So it's really not as
obvious as you think it is.

908
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:46,243
And it's also
probably not true.

909
00:43:46,295 --> 00:43:48,662
Well,
the rest might be right...

910
00:43:49,999 --> 00:43:52,499
It's not,
but it had potential...

911
00:43:52,551 --> 00:43:55,502
but the last thing
was unambiguously wrong.

912
00:43:55,554 --> 00:43:58,172
- What language are you...
- I do like you.

913
00:43:59,391 --> 00:44:02,426
I like you
and I'm glad I said it.

914
00:44:02,478 --> 00:44:05,512
Even though now I wish
I had said it

915
00:44:05,564 --> 00:44:07,681
at the end
of a 13-hour flight.

916
00:44:11,353 --> 00:44:13,570
Yeah,
this is gonna be uncomfortable.

917
00:44:13,606 --> 00:44:15,022
I'm gonna switch seats
with someone.

918
00:44:15,074 --> 00:44:17,441
I'll switch seats.
I'll sit in Snowden's seat.

919
00:44:17,493 --> 00:44:18,609
That's not far enough.

920
00:44:18,661 --> 00:44:21,078
It's gonna be weird
if we can see each other.

921
00:44:26,752 --> 00:44:28,619
Okay.

922
00:44:51,310 --> 00:44:53,477
I'm making a motion
that the court

923
00:44:53,529 --> 00:44:55,445
vacate its initial
contempt finding

924
00:44:55,481 --> 00:44:57,147
because enough is enough.

925
00:44:57,233 --> 00:44:58,732
<i>Do I need grounds?
Sure.</i>

926
00:44:58,734 --> 00:45:00,033
<i>The government
now possesses information</i>

927
00:45:00,069 --> 00:45:02,286
that will help it independently
find the source.

928
00:45:02,321 --> 00:45:04,121
But mostly, enough is enough.

929
00:45:04,156 --> 00:45:06,039
You can't lock up
a man for 52 days

930
00:45:06,075 --> 00:45:08,492
without him knowing when or
even if he's ever getting out.

931
00:45:08,544 --> 00:45:11,912
You can't lock up a reporter
for protecting his source.

932
00:45:11,997 --> 00:45:14,248
- You can't have everything. And you...
- Rebecca.

933
00:45:14,333 --> 00:45:15,415
I have not yielded the floor.

934
00:45:15,417 --> 00:45:17,501
I won't be contesting
your motion.

935
00:45:17,553 --> 00:45:19,586
I'm sorry?

936
00:45:19,638 --> 00:45:23,557
I won't be contesting your motion.
I'll be joining it.

937
00:45:23,592 --> 00:45:26,426
This isn't supposed to be punitive.
It's supposed to be coercive.

938
00:45:26,428 --> 00:45:29,596
And plainly he's not
giving up the name.

939
00:45:29,648 --> 00:45:31,598
He'll sleep at home tonight.

940
00:45:43,112 --> 00:45:44,528
Follow me.

941
00:45:47,166 --> 00:45:48,782
Follow me.

942
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,586
<i>Where are we going?</i>

943
00:45:52,621 --> 00:45:54,621
Exactly where
you think we're going.

944
00:45:54,673 --> 00:45:56,673
I don't know what...
I'm confused.

945
00:45:56,709 --> 00:45:59,760
We're running into turbulence.

946
00:45:59,795 --> 00:46:02,629
You have to go to your seats
and put your seat belts on.

947
00:46:02,631 --> 00:46:04,181
This is awkward.

948
00:46:04,216 --> 00:46:07,017
I was sitting far away from you.
I was watching episode four.

949
00:46:07,052 --> 00:46:08,969
I'm sorry,
would you mind trading back?

950
00:46:08,971 --> 00:46:10,938
We're in the middle
of turbulence.

951
00:46:10,973 --> 00:46:12,689
It's nothing.
It's due to the action

952
00:46:12,725 --> 00:46:15,359
of molecular viscosity
called laminar flow.

953
00:46:16,695 --> 00:46:19,313
Okay.

954
00:46:19,315 --> 00:46:21,982
- Where did that come from?
- Sit down. Put on your seat belt.

955
00:46:58,487 --> 00:47:01,355
And we're joined now by Bree Dorrit,
editor of ACN Digital

956
00:47:01,407 --> 00:47:02,906
and father of the ACNgage app.

957
00:47:02,942 --> 00:47:04,691
- Thanks for joining us, Bree.
- Hi, Sloan.

958
00:47:04,693 --> 00:47:08,111
<i>We saw some of it in the package we just played,
but tell us about ACNgage.</i>

959
00:47:08,163 --> 00:47:09,696
<i>It's a map that tells you
where celebrities</i>

960
00:47:09,748 --> 00:47:11,365
<i>have been sighted in
New York or Los Angeles.</i>

961
00:47:11,367 --> 00:47:13,951
<i>And soon we'll be expanding
to Vegas and South Beach.</i>

962
00:47:14,003 --> 00:47:16,837
Any time you want,
you can scroll around and see, you know,

963
00:47:16,872 --> 00:47:19,873
Jude Law was shopping for condoms
at Duane Reade on 57th or...

964
00:47:19,925 --> 00:47:22,926
So people are out there and they
can post a message to us and say,

965
00:47:22,962 --> 00:47:25,379
"Kristen Bell and her kid
are at the 4:00 PM showing

966
00:47:25,431 --> 00:47:27,214
of <i>How to Train Your Dragon</i>
at the ArcLight"?

967
00:47:27,216 --> 00:47:29,016
And it goes right on
our map instantly.

968
00:47:29,051 --> 00:47:30,634
So that when Kristen Bell and
her kid come out of the movies,

969
00:47:30,686 --> 00:47:32,719
there are a dozen sociopaths
waiting for them?

970
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:38,392
- I don't think that's likely.
- Why not?

971
00:47:38,394 --> 00:47:40,777
Well, it's the price of fame,
isn't it?

972
00:47:40,813 --> 00:47:42,729
<i>No, it's not.
It's a punishment for it.</i>

973
00:47:42,781 --> 00:47:45,449
<i>Celebrities have been stalked and
celebrities have been murdered.</i>

974
00:47:45,534 --> 00:47:47,985
What this app is best at
is assisting in that, right?

975
00:47:48,037 --> 00:47:49,453
I'm sorry you feel that way.

976
00:47:49,488 --> 00:47:51,405
ACNgage is citizen journalism.

977
00:47:51,407 --> 00:47:53,073
Can you talk about
the vetting process

978
00:47:53,125 --> 00:47:55,242
- the citizen journalism undergoes?
- The vetting?

979
00:47:55,244 --> 00:47:57,294
<i>People can post
more than locations.</i>

980
00:47:57,329 --> 00:47:58,912
- <i>They can post observations.</i>
<i>- That's right.</i>

981
00:47:58,964 --> 00:48:01,548
<i>I'm asking if those posts
are fact-checked.</i>

982
00:48:01,583 --> 00:48:03,417
<i>This is one specific
element of the site...</i>

983
00:48:03,419 --> 00:48:05,969
<i>For instance,
in a post today a citizen journalist tells us</i>

984
00:48:06,005 --> 00:48:08,255
that Jimmy Kimmel was visibly
intoxicated last night

985
00:48:08,257 --> 00:48:10,557
- at the Soho House in West Hollywood.
- That's right.

986
00:48:10,592 --> 00:48:13,643
Jimmy Kimmel was with his family
in Cabo San Lucas last night.

987
00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:18,065
People don't read this with the
expectation of it being true.

988
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:19,599
- Everyone...
- Excuse me?

989
00:48:19,651 --> 00:48:21,351
- Everyone...
- People don't have an expectation

990
00:48:21,403 --> 00:48:22,652
that what they're
reading is true?

991
00:48:22,688 --> 00:48:24,604
<i>They read it for the immediacy.</i>

992
00:48:24,606 --> 00:48:26,189
<i>But you're using
the word journalism,</i>

993
00:48:26,241 --> 00:48:28,909
which means there is an expectation
that what they're reading is true.

994
00:48:28,944 --> 00:48:30,494
But let me take it
a step further.

995
00:48:30,529 --> 00:48:32,362
Let's pretend it was true
that Jimmy Kimmel

996
00:48:32,414 --> 00:48:35,115
<i>was intoxicated last night at the
Soho House in West Hollywood.</i>

997
00:48:35,167 --> 00:48:37,117
<i>It's not true, but we don't care,
so let's pretend</i>

998
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:38,618
<i>that it is since that's
what we're doing anyway.</i>

999
00:48:38,670 --> 00:48:40,203
<i>Why does that belong
on our website?</i>

1000
00:48:40,255 --> 00:48:41,922
Leave her on
as long as she wants.

1001
00:48:41,957 --> 00:48:44,458
Honestly,
I think there's a shifting definition

1002
00:48:44,460 --> 00:48:46,176
of what's public
and private space.

1003
00:48:46,211 --> 00:48:47,594
There is,
and we should care about that.

1004
00:48:47,629 --> 00:48:49,629
But my question is
why should we care

1005
00:48:49,631 --> 00:48:51,848
about a talk show host
drinking at a bar?

1006
00:48:51,884 --> 00:48:54,518
Don't you think it's great
that we're not putting people

1007
00:48:54,553 --> 00:48:56,303
up on a pedestal and
worshipping them anymore?

1008
00:48:56,355 --> 00:48:59,806
I don't think celebrities are one
of the bigger problems facing us,

1009
00:48:59,808 --> 00:49:01,858
but aren't we the ones
building the pedestal?

1010
00:49:01,894 --> 00:49:03,944
You've got a map that
gives us their location.

1011
00:49:03,979 --> 00:49:06,279
The idea is that we're acknowledging
that they're real people.

1012
00:49:06,315 --> 00:49:08,648
I wonder how many of us
didn't already know that.

1013
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:10,317
But you're doing more than
acknowledging they're real people.

1014
00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:12,119
You're beating them up for it.

1015
00:49:12,154 --> 00:49:15,238
Aren't they protected by the piles
of money they're surrounded by?

1016
00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:17,374
Okay,
what's the line of demarcation?

1017
00:49:17,409 --> 00:49:20,577
You make over X dollars a year and
now you get to be treated by us

1018
00:49:20,629 --> 00:49:22,546
as a regular person
who's basically had

1019
00:49:22,581 --> 00:49:24,965
an electronic bracelet slapped on their ankle.
What does X equal?

1020
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,501
It would be silly to name
an exact dollar amount.

1021
00:49:27,503 --> 00:49:30,387
- You're paid $55,000 a year.
- Well, that's private.

1022
00:49:30,422 --> 00:49:34,174
Sorry. That's almost twice the
national average for a family of four.

1023
00:49:34,226 --> 00:49:36,593
Do your piles of cash protect
you from this interview

1024
00:49:36,645 --> 00:49:38,678
in which I'm intentionally
stripping you of your dignity?

1025
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,598
And, by the way,
I've managed to do it without lying once.

1026
00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:44,434
So I'm going to give you another
chance to answer my question

1027
00:49:44,486 --> 00:49:46,019
before I answer it myself.

1028
00:49:46,071 --> 00:49:47,604
What's the value
of an unsourced,

1029
00:49:47,656 --> 00:49:51,691
unvetted story about a grown
man drinking at a bar?

1030
00:49:56,498 --> 00:49:59,366
I can't give you all the time in the world.
It's entertainment.

1031
00:49:59,451 --> 00:50:01,034
My concern isn't
for the celebrities,

1032
00:50:01,036 --> 00:50:04,121
even though as sure as we're sitting here,
someone's gonna get hurt.

1033
00:50:04,173 --> 00:50:05,589
My concern is for
the rest of us

1034
00:50:05,624 --> 00:50:08,458
who you're turning into a
wild pack of prideless punks.

1035
00:50:09,795 --> 00:50:11,294
That's <i>News Night</i> for June 24.

1036
00:50:11,346 --> 00:50:13,380
I'm Sloan Sabbith
filling in for Will McAvoy.

1037
00:50:13,432 --> 00:50:16,216
<i>Terry Smith's up next
with the </i>Capitol Report<i>.</i>

1038
00:50:19,721 --> 00:50:22,355
<i>We're clear.</i>

1039
00:50:22,391 --> 00:50:24,691
Pruit's gonna
kill you for this.

1040
00:50:24,726 --> 00:50:26,526
I know.

1041
00:50:31,617 --> 00:50:34,234
- Did you put her up to that?!
- Let's go in my office.

1042
00:50:34,236 --> 00:50:37,621
- No! We'll go where I fucking say we go!
- Charlie.

1043
00:50:37,656 --> 00:50:39,823
- Did you put her up to it?
- Nobody put me up to anything.

1044
00:50:39,875 --> 00:50:41,741
What did you think
you were doing?

1045
00:50:41,793 --> 00:50:43,877
- You saw the questions she was gonna ask?
- 'Course I saw the questions.

1046
00:50:43,912 --> 00:50:45,579
I was doing the interview the
only way that made sense to me.

1047
00:50:45,631 --> 00:50:47,130
You were openly insubordinate!

1048
00:50:47,166 --> 00:50:48,748
I was told to do
this interview.

1049
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,250
You knew what
I was looking for!

1050
00:50:50,302 --> 00:50:52,335
I did and I didn't like it,
but I did it anyway.

1051
00:50:52,387 --> 00:50:55,005
- That was my interview. Mac wasn't responsible.
- I tried to do the best I could, but I didn't...

1052
00:50:55,057 --> 00:50:56,506
I'm tired of this.

1053
00:50:56,558 --> 00:50:58,391
Did you get the Princeton kid?

1054
00:50:58,427 --> 00:51:00,927
Charlie, let's go into my office
and sit down for a minute.

1055
00:51:00,979 --> 00:51:02,345
Did you get the Princeton kid?

1056
00:51:05,267 --> 00:51:07,317
- No.
- Why not?

1057
00:51:08,770 --> 00:51:10,487
Couldn't find her.

1058
00:51:11,773 --> 00:51:14,024
You couldn't...

1059
00:51:14,076 --> 00:51:15,575
No.

1060
00:51:15,611 --> 00:51:18,612
- You couldn't find her?!
- No.

1061
00:51:18,664 --> 00:51:20,580
Is this a mutiny?!

1062
00:51:20,616 --> 00:51:22,082
It's an intervention.

1063
00:51:22,117 --> 00:51:24,451
I'm trying to keep
this together!

1064
00:51:24,503 --> 00:51:27,254
Her and her,
tell 'em to pack their shit and get out of here.

1065
00:51:27,289 --> 00:51:29,172
- I apologize for the interview.
- I don't.

1066
00:51:29,208 --> 00:51:31,258
- Pack up your shit and get out of here, lady.
- Look...

1067
00:51:31,293 --> 00:51:34,094
She tore apart our network,
except it isn't ours, it's mine.

1068
00:51:34,129 --> 00:51:36,963
So either Thelma and Louise vacate the
premises in the next five minutes

1069
00:51:36,965 --> 00:51:40,600
or I will fire the motherfucking
lot of you right now.

1070
00:51:40,636 --> 00:51:42,936
No, you won't.
'Cause you can't.

1071
00:51:42,971 --> 00:51:47,190
Only I can.
A parting gift from Mrs. Lansing.

1072
00:51:47,226 --> 00:51:50,310
Who on her worst day
would never...

1073
00:51:53,448 --> 00:51:55,699
We need to talk.

1074
00:51:55,734 --> 00:51:57,534
You and me, right now, okay?

1075
00:51:58,954 --> 00:52:00,954
Upstairs.

1076
00:52:00,989 --> 00:52:03,623
Nobody leaves the premises
until we figure out

1077
00:52:03,659 --> 00:52:06,042
how to fix
this fucking calamity.

1078
00:52:07,496 --> 00:52:09,879
I'll be back in a minute.

1079
00:52:12,334 --> 00:52:14,334
- Let's meet in my office.
- I'm there.

1080
00:54:19,461 --> 00:54:21,795
It's okay.
It's over.

1081
00:54:29,271 --> 00:54:32,355
Charlie had a heart
attack a few hours ago.

1082
00:54:35,477 --> 00:54:37,444
He died.