1 00:00:01,936 --> 00:00:03,102 [narrator] On the brink of an all-new season 2 00:00:03,204 --> 00:00:04,269 of Moonshiners, 3 00:00:04,271 --> 00:00:06,405 America's legendary outlaws risk it all 4 00:00:06,407 --> 00:00:08,107 to meet for a kick-off summi 5 00:00:08,109 --> 00:00:10,409 like you've never seen before. 6 00:00:10,544 --> 00:00:13,912 It's the rise of the shine economy. 7 00:00:13,914 --> 00:00:16,115 America is facing one of its worst 8 00:00:16,217 --> 00:00:18,617 inflation crises in history 9 00:00:18,619 --> 00:00:20,319 and the cost of making liquo 10 00:00:20,421 --> 00:00:22,254 is reaching record numbers. 11 00:00:22,323 --> 00:00:24,256 Shiners must create innovative 12 00:00:24,291 --> 00:00:26,258 new recipes and techniques 13 00:00:26,327 --> 00:00:28,394 to produce high-quality liquor, 14 00:00:28,396 --> 00:00:30,062 stay ahead of the competition, 15 00:00:30,164 --> 00:00:31,630 and avoid the law. 16 00:00:31,765 --> 00:00:33,999 When it costs us more to make liquor, 17 00:00:34,001 --> 00:00:35,434 you can't raise your prices so much 18 00:00:35,503 --> 00:00:37,102 and still keep your customers. 19 00:00:37,237 --> 00:00:40,039 [narrator] Facing an unprecedented threat of arrest, 20 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:43,142 one shiner goes on the lam. 21 00:00:43,243 --> 00:00:44,543 I learned how to make Brazilian moonshine 22 00:00:44,612 --> 00:00:45,711 called cachaca. 23 00:00:45,713 --> 00:00:47,546 I almost didn't even wanna come home. 24 00:00:47,648 --> 00:00:50,649 [narrator] Innovator, Amand brings breakthrough science 25 00:00:50,718 --> 00:00:53,152 to the most old-school traditionalists. 26 00:00:53,253 --> 00:00:55,421 They're really stuck in their ways. 27 00:00:55,523 --> 00:00:58,357 But it's a good thing because they're preserving techniques 28 00:00:58,459 --> 00:00:59,525 that have been forgotten over time. 29 00:00:59,593 --> 00:01:01,427 [narrator] Mark and Digger find themselves 30 00:01:01,429 --> 00:01:03,629 in the crosshairs of a police captain, 31 00:01:03,731 --> 00:01:06,498 hell-bent on putting them behind bars. 32 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:09,401 Is it getting too dangerous for you guys? 33 00:01:09,403 --> 00:01:10,402 I love him to death 34 00:01:10,404 --> 00:01:12,438 but I don't wanna go to jail with him. 35 00:01:12,506 --> 00:01:14,940 [narrator] Plus, as law enforcement heats up 36 00:01:15,042 --> 00:01:16,942 which outlaw has what it takes 37 00:01:17,044 --> 00:01:18,410 to survive in jail? 38 00:01:18,512 --> 00:01:20,446 Shiners are about to find ou 39 00:01:20,514 --> 00:01:23,749 in a round of Tickle's Jailbird Match game. 40 00:01:23,818 --> 00:01:25,117 What did you say, Josh? 41 00:01:25,119 --> 00:01:26,618 Beating some ass. 42 00:01:26,753 --> 00:01:28,454 Josh's was a twofer. 43 00:01:28,522 --> 00:01:30,222 [laughter] 44 00:01:30,357 --> 00:01:32,057 [narrator] Josh, Digger, 45 00:01:32,126 --> 00:01:33,992 Mark, Mike, 46 00:01:33,994 --> 00:01:35,627 Richard, Amanda, 47 00:01:35,729 --> 00:01:37,763 Tim, and Tickle, 48 00:01:37,831 --> 00:01:40,933 sit down with executive producer Matthew Ostrom 49 00:01:41,035 --> 00:01:43,102 and lay it all on the line. 50 00:01:43,104 --> 00:01:45,404 This guy found a ram pump. What does that mean? 51 00:01:45,506 --> 00:01:47,306 He didn't just find a ram pump. 52 00:01:47,441 --> 00:01:49,308 -He found our ram pump. -He found our ram pump. 53 00:01:49,443 --> 00:01:50,609 My hind end rode up so tight, 54 00:01:50,711 --> 00:01:52,344 you couldn't got a straight pen in it 55 00:01:52,413 --> 00:01:53,912 with a sledgehammer. 56 00:01:53,914 --> 00:01:55,514 [narrator] It's all coming up here 57 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:58,817 on the all-new Moonshiners Season 12, 58 00:01:58,919 --> 00:02:00,185 Kickoff Summit. 59 00:02:00,187 --> 00:02:03,956 Welcome to the Moonshiners Season 12 Kickoff Summit. 60 00:02:04,058 --> 00:02:05,123 I'm Matthew Ostrom, 61 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:07,025 the executive producer of Moonshiners. 62 00:02:07,027 --> 00:02:09,962 Guys, thank you very much for being here. 63 00:02:10,030 --> 00:02:11,430 Glad to be here, Matt. 64 00:02:11,432 --> 00:02:12,731 Season 12, gentlemen. 65 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,199 -Season break. -Great. Crazy. 66 00:02:14,301 --> 00:02:16,301 -It's insane. -Who'd a thunk it? 67 00:02:16,403 --> 00:02:17,436 [Matthew] Who'd have thunk? Well... 68 00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:18,937 -I mean really. -[Matthew] Good stuff. 69 00:02:19,072 --> 00:02:21,507 Whether we are paying more for groceries 70 00:02:21,509 --> 00:02:23,208 or filling up our gas tanks, 71 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:26,111 the inflation crisis is affecting all of us. 72 00:02:26,113 --> 00:02:27,613 But for moonshiners, 73 00:02:27,615 --> 00:02:31,049 cost increases are hitting every step of the business. 74 00:02:31,118 --> 00:02:33,418 Corn, copper, propane, gas. 75 00:02:33,420 --> 00:02:34,953 You do the math. 76 00:02:35,055 --> 00:02:38,524 Moonshining is America's original small business. 77 00:02:38,526 --> 00:02:40,959 But thanks to these guys, 78 00:02:41,094 --> 00:02:42,961 it's also America's most resilient. 79 00:02:43,096 --> 00:02:46,331 It's the rise of the shine economy. 80 00:02:46,433 --> 00:02:47,566 All right, guys. 81 00:02:47,568 --> 00:02:51,436 So how has the inflation crisis affected moonshining? 82 00:02:51,505 --> 00:02:52,938 It's affected everything. 83 00:02:53,007 --> 00:02:54,206 And when it's affecting everything, 84 00:02:54,208 --> 00:02:55,541 it's affecting making moonshine 85 00:02:55,642 --> 00:02:59,111 'cause fuel, parts for your vehicles, 86 00:02:59,113 --> 00:03:01,213 basically you gotta build the still. 87 00:03:01,315 --> 00:03:02,714 You gotta come up with gas, 88 00:03:02,849 --> 00:03:05,050 you gotta come up with propane to do some soldering, 89 00:03:05,119 --> 00:03:06,318 everything has went up. 90 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,620 Everything that's involved in the liquor-making process 91 00:03:08,722 --> 00:03:10,923 has taken the hit bigger than anything is what-- 92 00:03:10,925 --> 00:03:12,524 Just about... Just about anything, really. 93 00:03:12,526 --> 00:03:15,027 And if wanted to change oil in the truck, 94 00:03:15,029 --> 00:03:16,295 I couldn't get an oil filter for it. 95 00:03:16,297 --> 00:03:18,230 -Couldn't even get a filter? -Couldn't get a filter. 96 00:03:18,332 --> 00:03:19,898 And this is a common thing, you know? 97 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:20,799 [Matthew] Yup. 98 00:03:20,901 --> 00:03:23,402 Yup. So what's the biggest challenge? 99 00:03:23,404 --> 00:03:27,706 One of the biggest challenges we face is 100 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:31,109 when it costs us more to make liquor. 101 00:03:31,212 --> 00:03:32,978 You can't raise your prices so much 102 00:03:33,047 --> 00:03:34,146 and still keep your customers. 103 00:03:34,215 --> 00:03:35,179 [Digger] Exactly. 104 00:03:35,181 --> 00:03:37,316 And so, one of the biggest challenges 105 00:03:37,418 --> 00:03:39,318 that I can say that... 106 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:40,953 And Josh, you can attest to this, 107 00:03:41,021 --> 00:03:44,056 that we've had is keeping our prices down, 108 00:03:44,124 --> 00:03:46,658 finding innovative ways, 109 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,493 whether it's going out and getting your fruit 110 00:03:48,495 --> 00:03:50,429 and all that yourself, 111 00:03:50,531 --> 00:03:52,531 costs a whole lot less if you pick it yourself. 112 00:03:52,533 --> 00:03:54,633 Right. It's forced you guys to innovate. 113 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:56,868 -Mmm-hmm. -Copper's quadrupled. 114 00:03:56,870 --> 00:03:57,736 -Oh, yeah. -[Matthew] Right. 115 00:03:57,838 --> 00:03:58,837 Yes, coppers went through the roof. 116 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:01,240 Jars, if you can find them, they're doubled. 117 00:04:01,308 --> 00:04:02,040 -Yeah. -Right. 118 00:04:02,109 --> 00:04:04,943 Honestly, we're washing jars. 119 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:07,512 We get 'em back every chance we can. 120 00:04:07,615 --> 00:04:10,349 You know, people are bring us back a case of jars. 121 00:04:10,417 --> 00:04:12,718 -[Matthew] Yup. -We'll knock some bucks off their liquor. 122 00:04:12,820 --> 00:04:15,254 Are you guys worried about the quality of your shine? 123 00:04:15,322 --> 00:04:16,254 None of these guys, 124 00:04:16,323 --> 00:04:17,956 I know 'em all and I know 'em well, 125 00:04:18,025 --> 00:04:19,524 and there's none of 'em that will sacrifice 126 00:04:19,526 --> 00:04:22,227 their quality to save the dollar. 127 00:04:22,229 --> 00:04:24,129 What's the biggest change you've had to make 128 00:04:24,264 --> 00:04:25,897 because of this season's prices? 129 00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:29,034 We've really had to look back to the past. 130 00:04:29,103 --> 00:04:32,037 What did the old timers way back in the day do? 131 00:04:32,139 --> 00:04:33,305 Say, when they were going through it 132 00:04:33,407 --> 00:04:34,439 through the Depression 133 00:04:34,541 --> 00:04:37,009 -or whatever? -Sure. 134 00:04:37,011 --> 00:04:40,012 And really take pages out of their books. 135 00:04:40,014 --> 00:04:42,214 And it might be a little different 136 00:04:42,216 --> 00:04:44,516 than the way we've always done it, 137 00:04:44,618 --> 00:04:46,652 but these ways work. 138 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,719 [Matthew] Sure. Okay. All right. 139 00:04:47,821 --> 00:04:49,955 No question, inflation is on fire 140 00:04:50,057 --> 00:04:52,524 and all of our shiners are feeling the heat. 141 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:54,426 But there's one shiner 142 00:04:54,428 --> 00:04:57,829 who has his own unresolved issues with fire. 143 00:04:57,831 --> 00:04:59,231 Let's take a look. 144 00:05:04,238 --> 00:05:06,405 Cow mighty dang! 145 00:05:17,051 --> 00:05:18,116 -Phew. -Josh, 146 00:05:18,218 --> 00:05:20,218 just tell everybody here what happened. 147 00:05:20,220 --> 00:05:21,353 Just remind us all. 148 00:05:21,422 --> 00:05:23,555 I know everybody thinks I burned this house down, 149 00:05:23,657 --> 00:05:25,457 but I did not burn this house down. 150 00:05:25,526 --> 00:05:27,492 I did not burn this house down. 151 00:05:27,494 --> 00:05:30,228 I will say it again. I did not burn the house down. 152 00:05:30,331 --> 00:05:31,963 -What happened, Josh? -I don't know, 153 00:05:32,066 --> 00:05:33,231 a hundred percent what did happen. 154 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:36,234 But we've all been kind of studying on it 155 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:37,602 and the best we can come up with 156 00:05:37,705 --> 00:05:39,237 -is an electrical wire. -Electrical. 157 00:05:39,273 --> 00:05:43,108 It's just awfully odd that I was out back with fire. 158 00:05:43,210 --> 00:05:45,510 It is what it is. I didn't do it though. 159 00:05:45,512 --> 00:05:47,012 I swear to God, I didn't do it. 160 00:05:47,014 --> 00:05:50,349 When Henry, Kenny and myself left there that day, 161 00:05:50,450 --> 00:05:52,117 I was pretty sure Josh said something 162 00:05:52,119 --> 00:05:54,953 about renters insurance and asked to borrow my Zip up. 163 00:05:55,022 --> 00:05:57,155 [laughter] 164 00:05:57,257 --> 00:06:00,359 You know, I don't know how that plays into anything but-- 165 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:02,661 But why is the fire marshal coming after you, Josh? 166 00:06:02,763 --> 00:06:04,229 I should've never put my name on the lease. 167 00:06:04,331 --> 00:06:05,430 I knew better when I did it, 168 00:06:05,565 --> 00:06:07,599 but I was just so gung-ho 169 00:06:07,701 --> 00:06:09,701 to get this still site up and going. 170 00:06:09,703 --> 00:06:11,536 So, I mean, I know a little bit about this. 171 00:06:11,605 --> 00:06:13,705 You've basically been on the run, right? 172 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:14,940 Yeah. Yeah, I've been on the run. 173 00:06:15,042 --> 00:06:16,408 I've been hiding out. I've been... 174 00:06:16,410 --> 00:06:17,409 They've been looking for me. 175 00:06:17,511 --> 00:06:19,010 They've been coming by Henry's, 176 00:06:19,012 --> 00:06:20,345 knocking on the door. 177 00:06:20,414 --> 00:06:22,647 They've been calling around, they've been asking questions. 178 00:06:22,749 --> 00:06:24,750 So let's take a look at that. 179 00:06:24,818 --> 00:06:26,518 Are you with the fire department? 180 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,020 Yeah. I'm with the fire marshal's office, you know. 181 00:06:29,123 --> 00:06:30,422 So I figured I'd just come out and try to inspect 182 00:06:30,524 --> 00:06:32,124 and try to figure out what went on here. 183 00:06:32,259 --> 00:06:34,960 Josh Owens, does that name ring a bell to you, sir? 184 00:06:35,062 --> 00:06:36,528 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know Josh. 185 00:06:36,630 --> 00:06:37,963 Do you know where he may be? 186 00:06:38,065 --> 00:06:39,898 -Where we could get a hold of him? -No. 187 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:41,600 What's up? 188 00:06:41,602 --> 00:06:42,934 scared the hell out of me 189 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:45,070 coming down in here to lock you up. 190 00:06:45,072 --> 00:06:46,405 [Josh] I'm having to stay down here. 191 00:06:46,407 --> 00:06:47,606 The house burnt down. 192 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:49,341 I lost my place to live. 193 00:06:49,443 --> 00:06:51,343 Looks like the fire marshal' looking for me. 194 00:06:51,445 --> 00:06:52,711 Probably the police. 195 00:06:52,813 --> 00:06:53,945 [Henry] There you go, just keep pulling it. 196 00:06:54,014 --> 00:06:54,879 Tell you what, 197 00:06:54,981 --> 00:06:55,647 [Josh] you're gonna see that, baby. 198 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:57,148 [Henry] Yup. 199 00:06:57,150 --> 00:06:58,817 [Josh] We'll leave this as where I go in and out at right here. 200 00:06:58,819 --> 00:07:01,620 I ain't exactly excited about all the ticks and bugs 201 00:07:01,622 --> 00:07:03,121 but it's better than being in jail. 202 00:07:03,223 --> 00:07:04,523 Beats looking through bars, huh, Josh? 203 00:07:04,625 --> 00:07:06,658 Damn straight. 204 00:07:06,727 --> 00:07:08,326 -[Tickle] Phew. -So, Josh, 205 00:07:08,429 --> 00:07:09,995 you've been living on the run, right? 206 00:07:09,997 --> 00:07:11,229 -[Josh] Yes, sir. -What is that like? 207 00:07:11,231 --> 00:07:12,664 I'm an outdoorsman. 208 00:07:12,733 --> 00:07:15,333 I loved the outdoors and going camping is great. 209 00:07:15,402 --> 00:07:17,102 But when you got to live outside, 210 00:07:17,104 --> 00:07:19,204 it's not as much fun. 211 00:07:19,306 --> 00:07:21,339 If I'm living in a tent, I'm living in a river. 212 00:07:21,408 --> 00:07:24,209 And then Henry insists on feeding me. 213 00:07:24,311 --> 00:07:26,011 He calls it stillhouse food. 214 00:07:26,013 --> 00:07:27,045 So what is still... 215 00:07:27,114 --> 00:07:29,214 what's exactly is stillhouse food? 216 00:07:29,216 --> 00:07:31,450 He told me, he said, "Josh, man, 217 00:07:31,518 --> 00:07:34,419 I brought you some surf and turf." 218 00:07:34,421 --> 00:07:36,254 Sardines and Beanie Weenies. 219 00:07:36,323 --> 00:07:38,457 [laughs] 220 00:07:38,525 --> 00:07:40,258 Things got so bad, 221 00:07:40,327 --> 00:07:41,993 you had to leave the country, right? 222 00:07:41,995 --> 00:07:45,030 Yeah. And I'm having to keep a low profile. 223 00:07:45,032 --> 00:07:46,431 We're gonna get into that later. 224 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:49,201 All right, Richard, you're at the big kids' table. 225 00:07:49,303 --> 00:07:51,036 -Yes. -[Matthew] Well done. 226 00:07:51,038 --> 00:07:52,204 You've made it. 227 00:07:52,206 --> 00:07:54,105 You've also decided to team up with Daniel this year, 228 00:07:54,208 --> 00:07:55,941 which was a big decision, right? 229 00:07:56,042 --> 00:07:57,242 Yes, it was. 230 00:07:57,311 --> 00:07:59,311 All right. Well, we have a sneak peek of you 231 00:07:59,313 --> 00:08:00,512 and Daniel working together. 232 00:08:00,614 --> 00:08:03,114 Let's take a look. 233 00:08:03,116 --> 00:08:05,550 The still that Richard and have got is a traditional 234 00:08:05,652 --> 00:08:08,053 pot still like out in the mountains of Tennessee. 235 00:08:08,121 --> 00:08:09,321 It's a pretty big pot. 236 00:08:09,423 --> 00:08:12,123 All I wanna do is us to make some good liquor 237 00:08:12,125 --> 00:08:13,758 and make a good living up here in Tennessee. 238 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:14,726 [Richard] We got to get this out of here. 239 00:08:14,728 --> 00:08:16,061 It's about the rain. 240 00:08:16,129 --> 00:08:17,529 All right, let's go. Last load. 241 00:08:17,531 --> 00:08:20,532 Oh, my. What the [bleep]? 242 00:08:20,634 --> 00:08:22,501 Oh, [bleep]. 243 00:08:22,503 --> 00:08:24,102 Man, Daniel is gonna kill you for real. 244 00:08:24,237 --> 00:08:26,304 -Oh, well. -Sucks. 245 00:08:26,406 --> 00:08:28,406 That ain't no still no more. 246 00:08:28,408 --> 00:08:31,209 Richard, what happened to the still? 247 00:08:31,311 --> 00:08:32,244 I turned off the fire, 248 00:08:32,345 --> 00:08:34,145 gotten distracted by my little brother. 249 00:08:34,247 --> 00:08:35,247 It was raining outside. 250 00:08:35,315 --> 00:08:37,115 It was a perfect storm for this to happen. 251 00:08:37,217 --> 00:08:40,519 The still cooled down real, real fast. 252 00:08:40,521 --> 00:08:41,620 And... [makes sound] 253 00:08:41,722 --> 00:08:45,724 And that's Daniel's prized possession, isn't it? 254 00:08:45,726 --> 00:08:47,959 -That is Daniel's baby. -Was. 255 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:49,961 That really puts a partnership to the test, 256 00:08:50,063 --> 00:08:51,530 -wouldn't you say, guys? -You know what? 257 00:08:51,532 --> 00:08:53,632 Daniel Maner is a different kind of gentleman. 258 00:08:53,733 --> 00:08:55,600 He was highly pissed. 259 00:08:55,735 --> 00:08:58,637 Highly pissed, but he never swung one time. 260 00:08:58,705 --> 00:09:00,505 -Okay. -Not once. 261 00:09:00,574 --> 00:09:03,208 So, you know, there's a long-standing feud 262 00:09:03,343 --> 00:09:06,444 between Mike and Daniel. 263 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:08,713 -Mmm-hmm. -Let's take a look. 264 00:09:08,715 --> 00:09:11,416 That's the multigrain liquor 265 00:09:11,418 --> 00:09:14,319 that you've been selling around here. 266 00:09:14,321 --> 00:09:15,320 Hmm. 267 00:09:16,423 --> 00:09:17,556 Is that right? 268 00:09:18,725 --> 00:09:21,126 That might be. Hell, I don't know. 269 00:09:21,228 --> 00:09:22,227 I don't appreciate you selling, 270 00:09:22,329 --> 00:09:24,329 you know, around to my customers, 271 00:09:24,331 --> 00:09:26,631 and that's exactly what's happened. 272 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:28,333 -Hmm. Hmm. -Hmm. 273 00:09:28,435 --> 00:09:30,402 You feel like you're stepping right into the middle of that? 274 00:09:30,404 --> 00:09:32,037 I do. I do. 275 00:09:32,138 --> 00:09:34,039 I inadvertently stepped into a battle. 276 00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:36,207 Did you realize what was happening 277 00:09:36,209 --> 00:09:37,175 when you stepped into it? 278 00:09:37,177 --> 00:09:39,010 I didn't think it was gonna be like that. 279 00:09:39,012 --> 00:09:40,612 I really didn't. 280 00:09:40,714 --> 00:09:44,149 It wasn't a choose-sides type thing, 281 00:09:44,217 --> 00:09:48,219 but it was... it was made known that, 282 00:09:48,221 --> 00:09:50,221 "Hey, I don't... I don't mess around with this person. 283 00:09:50,324 --> 00:09:53,191 I think you should steer clear." 284 00:09:53,193 --> 00:09:55,760 I don't really know all that really happened, you know? 285 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:58,129 Sure. And then Mark and Digger, 286 00:09:58,131 --> 00:10:01,399 you gave Richard and Daniel 287 00:10:01,401 --> 00:10:04,302 your blessing to be in your area, right? 288 00:10:04,304 --> 00:10:05,503 -Of course we did. -[Matthew] Yeah. 289 00:10:05,505 --> 00:10:08,607 Now, doesn't that inadvertently take money 290 00:10:08,742 --> 00:10:11,042 out of Mike's pocket? 291 00:10:11,144 --> 00:10:12,444 Not my problem. 292 00:10:12,512 --> 00:10:14,613 I got a million problems, but that ain't one of 'em. 293 00:10:14,748 --> 00:10:16,514 [laughter] 294 00:10:16,617 --> 00:10:19,250 All right. There's a lot more kickoff summit to get to, 295 00:10:19,319 --> 00:10:21,453 including our reveal of Mark and Digger's 296 00:10:21,554 --> 00:10:23,121 major troubles with the law. 297 00:10:23,123 --> 00:10:24,522 You don't wanna miss it. 298 00:10:24,524 --> 00:10:27,058 [narrator] Coming up, Mike and Jerry take 299 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,661 tradition and heritage to a brand-new level 300 00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:32,731 by hiring a moonshining prodigy. 301 00:10:32,833 --> 00:10:34,032 -Sutton? -Yeah, boy. 302 00:10:34,101 --> 00:10:35,600 Any kin of old Popcorn? 303 00:10:35,702 --> 00:10:37,502 -[man] That's my dad. -Hell, pa. 304 00:10:37,604 --> 00:10:40,338 [narrator] Plus, our shiner must think like Tickle 305 00:10:40,407 --> 00:10:44,042 when we play Tickle's Jailbird Match Game 306 00:10:44,111 --> 00:10:46,378 Congratulations. You thought like Tickle. 307 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:47,946 Oh, no. That's, you know... 308 00:10:48,015 --> 00:10:50,348 [narrator] And Mark and Digg face a new season 309 00:10:50,417 --> 00:10:52,951 with a police captain hot on their trail. 310 00:10:53,053 --> 00:10:55,720 He seems to be making it his personal vendetta 311 00:10:55,855 --> 00:11:00,425 to get us off this show or whatever he's after. 312 00:11:01,128 --> 00:11:03,528 [theme music playing] 313 00:11:06,433 --> 00:11:08,233 [Mark] What the hell is this? 314 00:11:08,301 --> 00:11:10,135 Whoa! Jesus! 315 00:11:10,236 --> 00:11:11,336 We're looking around 316 00:11:11,438 --> 00:11:13,304 and I hear Mark give out a little squall. 317 00:11:13,306 --> 00:11:16,307 Where in the hell this casket with Popcorn in it come from? 318 00:11:16,309 --> 00:11:17,509 A fan. 319 00:11:17,611 --> 00:11:19,310 I tell you, we're gonna come up here one night late 320 00:11:19,312 --> 00:11:20,945 and he'll be walking around here. 321 00:11:21,081 --> 00:11:23,314 Like Chucky, hope he ain't got a butcher knife though. 322 00:11:23,316 --> 00:11:24,315 Tell him bye. 323 00:11:24,317 --> 00:11:26,217 Bye, Popcorn. Close him up. 324 00:11:26,319 --> 00:11:27,552 Damn. 325 00:11:27,621 --> 00:11:29,621 Welcome back to the Moonshiners 326 00:11:29,623 --> 00:11:31,423 Season 12 Kickoff Summit. 327 00:11:31,425 --> 00:11:33,725 I'm the executive producer, Matthew Ostrom. 328 00:11:33,827 --> 00:11:37,128 Last season was the roaring 2020s for shine. 329 00:11:37,230 --> 00:11:38,663 And the economy and liquor sales 330 00:11:38,732 --> 00:11:40,131 were through the roof, right, guys? 331 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,332 -Yeah. Right on. -Mmm-hmm. 332 00:11:41,401 --> 00:11:44,202 In order to make this season shine economy work, 333 00:11:44,304 --> 00:11:47,405 our shiners need to dive deep into their playbook 334 00:11:47,507 --> 00:11:50,108 by leaning on heritage and old traditions. 335 00:11:50,110 --> 00:11:52,210 Let's take a look. 336 00:11:52,312 --> 00:11:56,147 I got us some of that damn expensive corn here. 337 00:11:56,216 --> 00:11:57,515 What he hit you for it? 338 00:11:57,650 --> 00:11:59,517 $25 a bag. 339 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:00,819 Hell, you say. 340 00:12:00,821 --> 00:12:02,654 We paid $10 last year. 341 00:12:02,723 --> 00:12:05,657 We're gonna do something to alleviate this problem. 342 00:12:07,728 --> 00:12:10,161 [Mark] Don't you burn the barns out that thing now. 343 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:12,263 I'm trying to figure out where the gas goes in. 344 00:12:12,332 --> 00:12:14,132 [sighs] Son of a bitch. 345 00:12:14,201 --> 00:12:16,000 Yeah, this is bull [bleep]. 346 00:12:16,002 --> 00:12:17,302 [Tickle] I don't know what the hell 347 00:12:17,304 --> 00:12:18,703 we got ourselves into. 348 00:12:18,705 --> 00:12:21,106 [Mark] Yeah, I'm done. 349 00:12:23,310 --> 00:12:24,008 [man] I knew it was crazy. 350 00:12:24,010 --> 00:12:25,043 Oh, man... [laughs] 351 00:12:25,145 --> 00:12:27,712 You guys are planting corn. 352 00:12:27,714 --> 00:12:30,348 You're going from shiners to farmers. 353 00:12:30,450 --> 00:12:32,150 Yeah. Very poorly, I might add. 354 00:12:32,219 --> 00:12:36,020 Yeah, let's call that a bad decision. 355 00:12:36,022 --> 00:12:37,956 [Mark] You know, and I don't really know 356 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:39,157 what we was thinking. 357 00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:40,158 All right. What were you thinking? 358 00:12:40,227 --> 00:12:41,126 We've save-- 359 00:12:41,228 --> 00:12:42,260 It ain't easy to work on that. 360 00:12:42,362 --> 00:12:45,163 We've saved $25 a bag, you know. 361 00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:47,432 [stuttering] 362 00:12:47,534 --> 00:12:49,501 We just... There was a lot of stuff we didn't think though. 363 00:12:49,503 --> 00:12:52,303 Came to find out $25 for 50 weight of corn 364 00:12:52,305 --> 00:12:53,538 -ain't a bad price, right? -Ain't so bad. 365 00:12:53,607 --> 00:12:54,939 Turns out it's a pretty good deal. 366 00:12:55,108 --> 00:12:57,742 -[Digger] You know? -[laughter] 367 00:12:57,844 --> 00:13:00,145 So why is heritage and tradition 368 00:13:00,246 --> 00:13:03,715 so essential during an inflation crisis? 369 00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:05,216 You know, during the Great Depression 370 00:13:05,318 --> 00:13:07,652 in our area, 371 00:13:07,721 --> 00:13:10,221 people really didn't know there was a depression 372 00:13:10,223 --> 00:13:12,524 until a politician from Washington came through 373 00:13:12,659 --> 00:13:13,725 and told 'em 374 00:13:13,727 --> 00:13:16,161 because nobody had anything, you know. 375 00:13:16,262 --> 00:13:18,730 You didn't have any more than your neighbor did. 376 00:13:18,732 --> 00:13:20,732 And you couldn't sell that damn corn at the market 377 00:13:20,801 --> 00:13:23,034 but you could turn it into liquor sell it. 378 00:13:23,103 --> 00:13:26,204 Exactly. You know, everybody had a bag of dry corn 379 00:13:26,306 --> 00:13:27,305 and starve to death 380 00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:29,307 but if you turn it into a jar of liquor, 381 00:13:29,309 --> 00:13:31,242 you could barter for something, so, 382 00:13:31,344 --> 00:13:33,511 you know, tradition and heritage plays 383 00:13:33,513 --> 00:13:36,614 an important role in every part of the economy 384 00:13:36,716 --> 00:13:38,349 in this country of ours. 385 00:13:38,418 --> 00:13:40,084 Sure. And, Mike, what about you? 386 00:13:40,086 --> 00:13:41,219 Are you doing anything 387 00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:42,620 you never thought you'd be doing? 388 00:13:42,622 --> 00:13:44,622 Yeah. You know, I'm trying to think outside the box. 389 00:13:44,624 --> 00:13:47,992 I'm doing a lot of foraging this season and stuff. 390 00:13:47,994 --> 00:13:49,727 You know, medicinal plants, 391 00:13:49,729 --> 00:13:51,429 stuff that don't cost me any money. 392 00:13:51,531 --> 00:13:53,631 Just tell us a couple of the ingredients 393 00:13:53,733 --> 00:13:55,333 that you've been using, 394 00:13:55,402 --> 00:13:57,302 because I think these guys would be really interested to hear. 395 00:13:57,304 --> 00:14:01,706 I know there's one that is really inventive. 396 00:14:01,708 --> 00:14:03,441 Well, I mean, I think the one that tops off 397 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:04,709 that would blow everybody's mind 398 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:06,711 on actually using, 399 00:14:06,713 --> 00:14:08,713 and if enough people was to do this 400 00:14:08,715 --> 00:14:11,549 and harvest this actual plant and vine, 401 00:14:11,651 --> 00:14:15,286 they can help it get away from the south a little bit, 402 00:14:15,288 --> 00:14:16,520 which is kudzu. 403 00:14:16,522 --> 00:14:18,056 -[man] Oh, hell. -[Digger] Yeah, that... Damn 404 00:14:18,157 --> 00:14:19,257 [Mike] That means kudzu vine 405 00:14:19,359 --> 00:14:21,626 That'll turn people against drinking. 406 00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:23,428 -[laughter] -It's very medicinal, man. 407 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,196 It helps with a lot of ailments 408 00:14:25,198 --> 00:14:27,932 and blood pressure and stomach cramps. 409 00:14:28,034 --> 00:14:31,035 There's one health benefit that kudzu has 410 00:14:31,137 --> 00:14:34,005 that a lot of people don't realize about. 411 00:14:34,007 --> 00:14:35,540 It fights alcoholism, Mike 412 00:14:35,642 --> 00:14:38,309 so, you might know that'll actually 413 00:14:38,311 --> 00:14:39,811 run your drive customers out. 414 00:14:39,813 --> 00:14:42,113 Yeah, I don't know if you got a point or not, Mike. 415 00:14:42,215 --> 00:14:43,615 But I'mma be honest with you, 416 00:14:43,717 --> 00:14:45,550 if it works and it's good for you, 417 00:14:45,652 --> 00:14:48,319 you've got a never-ending supply of liquor. 418 00:14:48,321 --> 00:14:49,954 [Digger] He's right. It won't kill you. 419 00:14:50,089 --> 00:14:51,322 It just don't taste wonderful. 420 00:14:51,424 --> 00:14:54,425 All right. Mike, you and Jerry 421 00:14:54,427 --> 00:14:56,628 have a bit of a surprise this season. 422 00:14:56,630 --> 00:14:59,430 You've decided to add a partner. 423 00:14:59,432 --> 00:15:01,032 [Mike] Yup. Let's take a look. 424 00:15:02,435 --> 00:15:03,835 Nice meeting you man, my name's Solomon. 425 00:15:03,970 --> 00:15:05,203 -Solomon? -Sutton. 426 00:15:05,205 --> 00:15:06,504 -Sutton? -Yeah, boy. 427 00:15:06,506 --> 00:15:09,407 Uh-oh. I got us a guy with a Sutton last name. 428 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:11,309 Any kin of old Popcorn? 429 00:15:11,311 --> 00:15:13,211 Yeah. That's my dad. 430 00:15:13,313 --> 00:15:15,013 Your daddy? Hell, pa! 431 00:15:15,015 --> 00:15:17,315 My dad was Popcorn Sutton. 432 00:15:17,317 --> 00:15:19,450 As Bubba says, "I'mma make some licky today." 433 00:15:19,552 --> 00:15:21,419 He ran liquor out here a long time, 434 00:15:21,521 --> 00:15:24,522 up on Hemphill and all over Maggie Valley. 435 00:15:27,127 --> 00:15:28,726 The biggest question is, "Can you work? 436 00:15:28,728 --> 00:15:30,528 -Do you want to work?" -Oh, yeah. 437 00:15:30,630 --> 00:15:32,730 All right. So, Mike, you decided 438 00:15:32,832 --> 00:15:36,701 to bring in Solomon Sutton, Popcorn's son. 439 00:15:36,803 --> 00:15:38,569 How did that come about? 440 00:15:38,571 --> 00:15:42,307 Well, as a matter of fact, Jerry actually knew the guy 441 00:15:42,309 --> 00:15:44,042 and introduced me to him. 442 00:15:44,143 --> 00:15:45,944 And, you know, we've been thinking anyway, 443 00:15:46,046 --> 00:15:47,845 we might need some help or what have you, 444 00:15:47,948 --> 00:15:49,280 and who knows? 445 00:15:49,282 --> 00:15:51,049 You know, this kid may be able to bring something to table 446 00:15:51,117 --> 00:15:52,417 that me and Jerry don't know nothing about. 447 00:15:52,419 --> 00:15:54,719 You know, some really old technique 448 00:15:54,821 --> 00:15:57,155 that he learned from possibly his dad 449 00:15:57,223 --> 00:15:59,524 or somebody in the Sutton family. 450 00:15:59,626 --> 00:16:02,794 But, I mean, as of right now, he's doing good. 451 00:16:02,796 --> 00:16:05,330 He's a damn good grunt worker for sure. 452 00:16:05,332 --> 00:16:07,065 Maybe he can... he can show us something. 453 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:10,301 Maybe he can be a good part of our season this season. 454 00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:11,369 That sounds good. 455 00:16:11,371 --> 00:16:13,037 What do you guys think about 456 00:16:13,106 --> 00:16:14,839 Mike working with Solomon Sutton? 457 00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:17,542 I know Solomon, but I'm not around him a whole lot. 458 00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:19,410 But if he's anything like his daddy, 459 00:16:19,512 --> 00:16:21,512 he's gonna prove to be right difficult. 460 00:16:21,514 --> 00:16:23,147 Yeah. Most definitely. 461 00:16:23,249 --> 00:16:25,516 You know, he's not a bad kid. I mean, I'm good with it. 462 00:16:25,651 --> 00:16:27,318 Yeah, that's Popcorn's boy for sure. 463 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,053 I really like Solomon. 464 00:16:29,122 --> 00:16:30,121 I think a lot of him. 465 00:16:30,123 --> 00:16:32,256 But now I'm not going to say 466 00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:34,525 that he won't prove difficult at some point. 467 00:16:34,627 --> 00:16:36,327 Speaking of Popcorn Sutton, 468 00:16:36,429 --> 00:16:40,198 Mark and Digger, you guys have made a piss pot still 469 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,500 in honor of Popcorn Sutton. 470 00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:44,936 Let's take a quick look. 471 00:16:45,005 --> 00:16:47,405 -You got that door? -Watch this. 472 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:48,940 What time does this all get out? 473 00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:52,043 Today's the day that we take Popcorn's old patterns 474 00:16:52,112 --> 00:16:54,712 and we're gonna build us a piss pot out of it. 475 00:16:54,814 --> 00:16:57,415 -We know this the cap. -[Digger] Yeah. 476 00:16:57,550 --> 00:17:00,318 This should be the exact width. 477 00:17:00,420 --> 00:17:02,854 These are just like the Dead Sea Scrolls. 478 00:17:02,956 --> 00:17:06,124 There ain't no more of these patterns to be cut out. 479 00:17:06,126 --> 00:17:07,525 All right, gentlemen, 480 00:17:07,627 --> 00:17:10,428 can you explain what is a piss pot still? 481 00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:11,595 In Popcorn's eye, 482 00:17:11,597 --> 00:17:13,431 that's anything under one barrel of steel, 483 00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:14,799 50 gallons. 484 00:17:14,801 --> 00:17:17,602 But what does it mean to the moonshine world? 485 00:17:17,704 --> 00:17:22,140 They... You have these original patterns, right? 486 00:17:22,241 --> 00:17:24,042 You know, it's like a lot of things. 487 00:17:24,110 --> 00:17:25,309 I mean, they probably they don't mean, 488 00:17:25,311 --> 00:17:28,046 uh, cup full of warm piss to somebody else 489 00:17:28,114 --> 00:17:30,314 but, you know, they're priceless heirloom. 490 00:17:30,417 --> 00:17:33,017 Me, I wouldn't take a million dollars cash money for it. 491 00:17:33,019 --> 00:17:34,419 Oh, now that's a lie. 492 00:17:34,521 --> 00:17:35,653 [Digger] Well, I'm hoping somebody would offer it. 493 00:17:35,722 --> 00:17:38,056 I'll throw the bull [bleep] flag on that. 494 00:17:38,124 --> 00:17:40,258 Yeah, but, dammit, you blew your half. 495 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,125 I was gonna give you half of it 496 00:17:41,194 --> 00:17:42,126 if somebody offered it. 497 00:17:42,128 --> 00:17:43,428 Oh, he wouldn't take a million dollars. 498 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:45,196 -There you go. -[laughter] 499 00:17:45,198 --> 00:17:46,330 Okay. 500 00:17:46,433 --> 00:17:49,033 All right, guys, it's time for a viewer question. 501 00:17:49,102 --> 00:17:50,435 Here we go. 502 00:17:50,536 --> 00:17:53,004 At Jill's Sports Car asks, 503 00:17:53,006 --> 00:17:56,207 "What's the one job you thought you wanted 504 00:17:56,309 --> 00:17:58,643 but realized you didn't?" 505 00:17:59,746 --> 00:18:01,512 -Damn. -I think we stumped him. 506 00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:04,415 I thought I wanted to grow a corn crop. 507 00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:06,117 -Yeah. -[laughter] 508 00:18:06,219 --> 00:18:08,419 I wanted to be a delivery driver one time. 509 00:18:08,554 --> 00:18:11,122 Until that first delivery and that dog came out. 510 00:18:11,224 --> 00:18:12,557 Well, you know, 511 00:18:12,658 --> 00:18:14,425 I mean, you ended up making deliveries. 512 00:18:14,527 --> 00:18:18,463 Just not... Just not for the Postal Service. 513 00:18:18,531 --> 00:18:21,699 All right. There's plenty more of the kickoff summit to come, 514 00:18:21,701 --> 00:18:24,102 including Mark and Digger's big reveal. 515 00:18:24,204 --> 00:18:25,136 You don't wanna miss it. 516 00:18:25,238 --> 00:18:26,103 You know, this season, 517 00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:27,638 we got some competition in town. 518 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:29,107 We've got Richard Landry 519 00:18:29,109 --> 00:18:32,210 trying to sell liquor in our territory. 520 00:18:32,312 --> 00:18:33,111 It ready to run? 521 00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:34,612 Oh, yeah, tastes pretty damn good. 522 00:18:34,614 --> 00:18:36,914 But we've got Popcorn Sutton's son. 523 00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:39,150 He may be an ace in the hole for me and Jerry. 524 00:18:39,252 --> 00:18:40,418 He's been taught the old way 525 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,053 which is nothing wrong with that. 526 00:18:42,155 --> 00:18:43,721 Might wanna pay attention. 527 00:18:44,757 --> 00:18:46,691 [Solomon] Oh, it's running. 528 00:18:46,693 --> 00:18:49,127 You got liquor, brother. 529 00:18:49,262 --> 00:18:50,728 Got a little spitting going on that, 530 00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:52,563 you wanna take my pecker and stick in there? 531 00:18:52,632 --> 00:18:54,065 A what? 532 00:18:54,133 --> 00:18:56,100 -Pecker. -[Sutton] Yeah. 533 00:18:56,202 --> 00:18:57,401 I was about to use this stick right here. 534 00:18:57,537 --> 00:18:58,536 Put that pecker in. 535 00:18:58,538 --> 00:19:01,139 It's good luck sticking your pecker in it. 536 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,406 Oh, God. 537 00:19:03,109 --> 00:19:06,210 [theme music playing] 538 00:19:06,345 --> 00:19:09,247 Welcome back to the Moonshiners Kickoff Summit. 539 00:19:09,315 --> 00:19:11,716 I'm the executive producer, Matthew Ostrom. 540 00:19:11,718 --> 00:19:13,217 We are getting closer to revealing 541 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:14,619 what happened to Mark and Digger 542 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,056 that never happened to any moonshiner in 12 seasons. 543 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:21,759 But first, making moonshine takes a lot of work 544 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:24,328 and ingenuity and creativity. 545 00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:27,265 Three of our shiners are taking innovation 546 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:28,799 to the next level this season. 547 00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:30,334 All right. I would like to welcome 548 00:19:30,403 --> 00:19:31,536 Amanda to the table. 549 00:19:31,604 --> 00:19:32,603 Thank you. 550 00:19:32,705 --> 00:19:34,205 It's very nice to have you here. 551 00:19:34,207 --> 00:19:35,540 It's awesome to be here. 552 00:19:35,608 --> 00:19:38,042 Amanda, you're kind of the scientist 553 00:19:38,111 --> 00:19:39,310 of the group right here. 554 00:19:39,312 --> 00:19:41,946 Let's take a look and see what you're up to this season. 555 00:19:42,015 --> 00:19:44,749 I always wanted to try distilling on the grains. 556 00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:46,150 So what I started doing at home was, 557 00:19:46,252 --> 00:19:47,552 I take glass marbles 558 00:19:47,587 --> 00:19:49,120 and I put them in the bottom of the pot. 559 00:19:49,222 --> 00:19:51,189 The marbles work as an agitator. 560 00:19:51,191 --> 00:19:52,924 It reduces any risk of scorching 561 00:19:52,926 --> 00:19:54,325 throughout your whole run. 562 00:19:54,327 --> 00:19:55,326 [Mark] I don't know anywhere to get any marbles. 563 00:19:55,428 --> 00:19:58,629 I ain't played with marbles since I was in school. 564 00:19:58,731 --> 00:20:00,965 And I wasn't in school much. 565 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:02,099 [Matthew] All right, Amanda, 566 00:20:02,202 --> 00:20:03,701 clearly you're doing some fun stuff. 567 00:20:03,803 --> 00:20:05,503 Tell us about what's going on 568 00:20:05,605 --> 00:20:07,305 with these glass marbles in the still. 569 00:20:07,307 --> 00:20:10,041 So everybody likes to ask about the marbles, right? 570 00:20:10,142 --> 00:20:12,710 It's just a really easy, simple way 571 00:20:12,812 --> 00:20:16,214 to create a cheap agitator for the pot. 572 00:20:16,316 --> 00:20:17,615 You know, you can throw a couple of glass marbles 573 00:20:17,617 --> 00:20:18,716 in the bottom of your still. 574 00:20:18,818 --> 00:20:20,218 And when it starts to simmer, 575 00:20:20,286 --> 00:20:22,653 they rotate along with the alcohol. 576 00:20:22,722 --> 00:20:24,488 And if any solids ever get to the bottom, 577 00:20:24,624 --> 00:20:26,724 it's always gonna constantly agitate them. 578 00:20:26,726 --> 00:20:30,528 It keeps mass from scorching or sticking to the bottom 579 00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:32,296 -and scorching, right? -Yeah. Yeah. 580 00:20:32,298 --> 00:20:34,198 So colonial distillers used to use hay 581 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,634 and they would line the bottoms of their pots with hay. 582 00:20:36,703 --> 00:20:38,502 But this is more like a Japanese kind of technique 583 00:20:38,504 --> 00:20:41,606 where they actually put the marbles in a teapot 584 00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:44,108 and it helps the pot to heat up faster. 585 00:20:44,210 --> 00:20:45,243 Because Mark and Huck, I would say, 586 00:20:45,344 --> 00:20:46,644 are like traditionalists, right? 587 00:20:46,646 --> 00:20:49,747 -Yes, very much so. -So, what's it like working with 588 00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:51,716 two traditionalists then? 589 00:20:51,718 --> 00:20:52,750 It's great. 590 00:20:52,818 --> 00:20:55,353 I wouldn't rather be with anyone else than them 591 00:20:55,421 --> 00:20:58,556 because they're really stuck in their ways. 592 00:20:58,625 --> 00:21:00,057 But it's a good thing. It's a good thing 593 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:02,727 because they're preserving techniques 594 00:21:02,862 --> 00:21:04,695 that have never been recorded, 595 00:21:04,697 --> 00:21:06,764 you know, things that have been forgotten over time. 596 00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:09,133 So I'm learning from them and I'm learning 597 00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:11,602 why people have continued to do these 598 00:21:11,704 --> 00:21:13,504 old techniques for so many years 599 00:21:13,506 --> 00:21:15,606 and what that can bring. 600 00:21:15,608 --> 00:21:17,508 Sure. Okay. 601 00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:19,744 And Tim, I know you did 602 00:21:19,812 --> 00:21:21,445 a little innovating this season, 603 00:21:21,547 --> 00:21:22,479 -so... -Yeah. 604 00:21:22,548 --> 00:21:24,715 let's take a look at what you're up to. 605 00:21:24,717 --> 00:21:27,718 [country music playing] 606 00:21:31,724 --> 00:21:33,224 There you go! 607 00:21:33,326 --> 00:21:35,726 We prepped the logs and built a cap. 608 00:21:35,728 --> 00:21:37,495 If we can just roll it over. 609 00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:39,530 Now it's time to put this thing together 610 00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:42,600 into an actual still that can make liquor. 611 00:21:42,702 --> 00:21:44,702 So this is gonna be like the cap, 612 00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:46,304 -like that. -Oh, that way? 613 00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:49,040 And put the condenser, barrel sitting here. 614 00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:50,241 Uh-huh. 615 00:21:50,343 --> 00:21:51,809 And you catch it coming out over there. 616 00:21:51,811 --> 00:21:53,244 Well, looking at this log still, 617 00:21:53,313 --> 00:21:54,511 starts to make you wonder, 618 00:21:54,514 --> 00:21:56,414 "What's the flavor this moonshine will taste like?" 619 00:21:56,516 --> 00:21:58,316 I mean, it's going to have to bring out 620 00:21:58,418 --> 00:22:00,051 the essence of the wood and that popper is going 621 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,452 to pull over into that shine 622 00:22:01,554 --> 00:22:03,220 I'm excited to see how great it's gonna to taste 623 00:22:03,323 --> 00:22:04,322 when it comes out that worm. 624 00:22:06,492 --> 00:22:07,658 And voila! 625 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:11,162 We have something that looks similar to a still. 626 00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:13,264 You know, when you get back, you look at this thing, 627 00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:14,465 it's a still. 628 00:22:15,401 --> 00:22:16,133 -So, Mike... -Yup. 629 00:22:16,235 --> 00:22:17,802 you and Jerry this season 630 00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:20,938 are kind of like the MacGyvers of Moonshiners. 631 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,808 I gotta say, you're coming up with all sorts of crazy things 632 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:25,209 that we've never seen before. 633 00:22:25,344 --> 00:22:26,811 Yeah. You know, me and Jerry, 634 00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:28,813 we try to come up with different ways 635 00:22:28,815 --> 00:22:31,549 to keep building something cool that works. 636 00:22:31,617 --> 00:22:34,952 And this year, he dreamed of a steamer still 637 00:22:35,054 --> 00:22:36,420 to do inside the woods. 638 00:22:36,422 --> 00:22:38,422 And then we built an actual condenser 639 00:22:38,424 --> 00:22:40,524 inside of our still, 640 00:22:40,526 --> 00:22:42,526 and we actually put in cubes, 641 00:22:42,628 --> 00:22:44,061 that way we can run our steam, 642 00:22:44,163 --> 00:22:46,063 heats our mash without any scorching. 643 00:22:46,165 --> 00:22:49,400 We have no mash piles whatsoever. 644 00:22:49,502 --> 00:22:51,035 It's all inside this pot, 645 00:22:51,104 --> 00:22:52,636 time gets through running, 646 00:22:52,705 --> 00:22:55,339 you just kill the fire under your steam vessel 647 00:22:55,408 --> 00:22:56,507 and walk away. 648 00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:57,842 Let's just take a look at what you've been up to. 649 00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:01,946 [theme music playing] 650 00:23:02,047 --> 00:23:04,215 My God. That's it right there on the bottom, brother. 651 00:23:05,451 --> 00:23:07,618 Me and Mike finally got the heat exchanger done. 652 00:23:07,687 --> 00:23:09,820 We got the piece, two sheet of copper together. 653 00:23:09,922 --> 00:23:11,355 We're actually gonna make a tube out of it 654 00:23:11,424 --> 00:23:13,557 and then slide the heat exchanger into it. 655 00:23:14,026 --> 00:23:15,626 Let's do it. 656 00:23:18,164 --> 00:23:19,797 We're all but home-free now. 657 00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:21,799 Sung as a bug in a damn, damn rug. 658 00:23:21,801 --> 00:23:23,033 [Mike] There's nobody else out there doing 659 00:23:23,135 --> 00:23:24,935 what me and Jerry does. 660 00:23:25,037 --> 00:23:26,637 [Jerry] We better take this sucker to the woods, man. 661 00:23:26,739 --> 00:23:27,405 [Mike] Yes, sir. 662 00:23:28,508 --> 00:23:29,940 Yeah, buddy. 663 00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:32,610 That little gentleman's heavy, son. 664 00:23:32,745 --> 00:23:35,946 All right. You guys are all so impressive 665 00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:38,215 and you are all masters of your craft. 666 00:23:38,217 --> 00:23:39,650 Can't wait to see what you guys do 667 00:23:39,719 --> 00:23:41,952 this coming season. It's gonna be a lot of fun. 668 00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:44,422 Speaking of masters of the craft, 669 00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:46,524 there's a new season of Master Distiller. 670 00:23:46,626 --> 00:23:48,826 It's coming to Discovery. 671 00:23:48,895 --> 00:23:50,027 Little sneak peek right now. 672 00:23:51,631 --> 00:23:52,997 [man] You all are about to participate 673 00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:55,399 in the toughest challenge we've had 674 00:23:55,401 --> 00:23:57,368 on this show to date. 675 00:23:57,370 --> 00:23:59,403 Are you finding anything? 676 00:23:59,405 --> 00:24:01,105 [man] Savory spirits. 677 00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:04,008 Nashville hot... chicken. 678 00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:06,610 [man] We've never had the families compete. 679 00:24:06,712 --> 00:24:08,846 This is kind of like a polygraph test. 680 00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:11,449 [man] Legal versus illegal. 681 00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:12,850 [man] Firefighter challenge. 682 00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:14,952 [man] This is what converts me. 683 00:24:15,054 --> 00:24:16,520 Catch on time. 684 00:24:16,522 --> 00:24:17,688 [man] And off the chain. 685 00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:21,525 [theme music playing] 686 00:24:21,627 --> 00:24:23,828 All right. It's gonna be an amazing season. 687 00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:25,062 Looks great. 688 00:24:25,164 --> 00:24:26,764 As former contestants, 689 00:24:26,833 --> 00:24:29,400 what advice would you give viewers 690 00:24:29,402 --> 00:24:31,802 who are thinking about competing on Master Distiller? 691 00:24:31,904 --> 00:24:33,637 I would definitely say that 692 00:24:33,739 --> 00:24:34,939 if someone's practicing the craft 693 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,607 and they have an interest in it, 694 00:24:36,709 --> 00:24:38,409 you might not think that you belong 695 00:24:38,411 --> 00:24:39,410 in a competition, 696 00:24:39,512 --> 00:24:40,711 just go out and do it. 697 00:24:40,713 --> 00:24:41,846 Just do it, you know? 698 00:24:41,948 --> 00:24:43,714 Because I didn't think I belonged here. 699 00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:44,915 I got here. 700 00:24:44,917 --> 00:24:46,517 I started competing and I realized 701 00:24:46,619 --> 00:24:48,018 that's... It's inside of you. 702 00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:49,420 You know, just come out. 703 00:24:49,422 --> 00:24:51,622 Put your skills to practice and do what you do. 704 00:24:51,624 --> 00:24:53,424 And then next thing you know, you're in the woods 705 00:24:53,526 --> 00:24:54,325 -with Mark and-- -I know, right? 706 00:24:54,427 --> 00:24:55,059 Best prize ever. 707 00:24:55,127 --> 00:24:56,327 [laughter] 708 00:24:56,429 --> 00:24:58,329 Who would have thought that we would win, 709 00:24:58,430 --> 00:25:00,564 let alone win, but to be invited 710 00:25:00,633 --> 00:25:02,933 to the other side of this? 711 00:25:03,002 --> 00:25:04,301 -Who would have thought? -You guys earned it. 712 00:25:04,436 --> 00:25:05,402 -Yeah. -I mean, 713 00:25:05,404 --> 00:25:07,104 that's nothing but skills. 714 00:25:07,106 --> 00:25:08,105 All right. 715 00:25:08,207 --> 00:25:10,741 We'll be back with more kickoff summit. 716 00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:11,942 Stick around. 717 00:25:12,044 --> 00:25:12,943 [narrator] Coming up. 718 00:25:12,945 --> 00:25:15,312 Outlaw Josh flees the country. 719 00:25:15,314 --> 00:25:16,447 [Josh] I don't have any ide 720 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:17,715 where the hell I am right now, 721 00:25:17,717 --> 00:25:19,550 but I know I'm somewhere in Brazil. 722 00:25:19,652 --> 00:25:22,820 [narrator] Then, a round of Tickle's Jailbird Match Gam 723 00:25:22,889 --> 00:25:24,655 you don't wanna miss. 724 00:25:24,724 --> 00:25:26,423 Gentlemen, what are your answers? 725 00:25:26,526 --> 00:25:27,925 Someone's butt. 726 00:25:27,927 --> 00:25:29,860 [laughter] 727 00:25:29,962 --> 00:25:31,695 -I'm sorry. -How do you know 728 00:25:31,697 --> 00:25:33,764 when it is your turn to judge somebody's butt? 729 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:35,032 [narrator] And later, 730 00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:38,035 a police captain presents a clear and present danger 731 00:25:38,104 --> 00:25:40,404 to Mark and Digger's livelihood, 732 00:25:40,506 --> 00:25:42,006 and their freedom. 733 00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:43,440 You guys are in the middle 734 00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,709 of a real cat and mouse with the law. 735 00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,511 Probably a good description, 736 00:25:47,613 --> 00:25:48,846 but we're not the cat. 737 00:25:49,615 --> 00:25:51,949 [theme music playing] 738 00:25:52,718 --> 00:25:54,552 Welcome back to the Moonshiners 739 00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:56,654 Season 12 Kickoff Summit. 740 00:25:56,755 --> 00:25:58,455 I'm Moonshiners executive producer, 741 00:25:58,524 --> 00:25:59,823 Matthew Ostrom. 742 00:25:59,959 --> 00:26:01,859 Right now, the US is in the middle 743 00:26:01,961 --> 00:26:04,328 of one of its biggest inflation crises 744 00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:05,496 in its history. 745 00:26:05,498 --> 00:26:07,665 Crisis for supplies keep going up, 746 00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:10,534 but so does the presence of the law. 747 00:26:10,636 --> 00:26:11,702 Let's take a look and see 748 00:26:11,704 --> 00:26:13,637 what these guys are up against. 749 00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:15,039 I just got back to Virginia 750 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:16,807 and the first thing that Henry tells me 751 00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:20,044 is the fire marshal's looking for me. 752 00:26:20,112 --> 00:26:22,513 The whole time he's talking, all I can think about 753 00:26:22,648 --> 00:26:24,148 is have they found the still site? 754 00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:27,918 [suspenseful music playing] 755 00:26:29,622 --> 00:26:30,955 [Josh] There it is right there. 756 00:26:36,028 --> 00:26:38,529 Oh, my God. 757 00:26:38,531 --> 00:26:40,664 Oh, no. 758 00:26:40,766 --> 00:26:43,000 Our whole site's been destroyed. 759 00:26:43,002 --> 00:26:45,002 This can't be [bleep] happening. 760 00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:46,303 Okay. All right. 761 00:26:46,305 --> 00:26:49,039 So, Josh, who do you think is messing 762 00:26:49,108 --> 00:26:50,340 with your still site? 763 00:26:50,409 --> 00:26:53,444 I mean, it only makes sense if the law is looking for me 764 00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:56,413 and my still site has been blew up. 765 00:26:56,548 --> 00:26:58,816 It only makes sense that it's the law. 766 00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:00,417 Sure. And then, Tickle, well... 767 00:27:00,419 --> 00:27:01,719 -you got any ideas on this? -Well, you know, 768 00:27:01,721 --> 00:27:04,054 it makes good sense that it was probably, 769 00:27:04,156 --> 00:27:05,856 you know, most likely the law. 770 00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:07,524 Somebody else comes in on your still site 771 00:27:07,627 --> 00:27:08,959 and just happens upon it, 772 00:27:09,061 --> 00:27:10,494 a lot of times what they'll do is they'll steal 773 00:27:10,496 --> 00:27:11,962 all the copper out of it, 774 00:27:12,064 --> 00:27:14,365 you know, what's valuable that you can recycle 775 00:27:14,433 --> 00:27:15,499 and make some money, 776 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:18,135 especially now with inflation being the way it is. 777 00:27:18,204 --> 00:27:19,937 But to destroy it all, it only... 778 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:21,105 -It'd be too much work. -makes sense it was the law. 779 00:27:21,107 --> 00:27:22,039 Right. 780 00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:24,808 And don't they tell you to never go back 781 00:27:24,810 --> 00:27:26,043 to the scene of a crime? 782 00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:27,611 Yeah. You're taking a big risk 783 00:27:27,713 --> 00:27:29,747 but my curiosity would have been up to... 784 00:27:29,815 --> 00:27:33,317 I would probably done the same thing but-- 785 00:27:33,419 --> 00:27:34,618 I didn't go right back in there. 786 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:36,020 -Right. -It was weeks later 787 00:27:36,022 --> 00:27:38,055 before I went back to check it out. 788 00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:39,556 But listen, I say it's a bad idea 789 00:27:39,625 --> 00:27:41,025 but I would've done the same damn thing. 790 00:27:41,027 --> 00:27:44,128 So Tickle, what do you think about Josh's strategy 791 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:45,529 to lay low 792 00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,598 and just avoid, avoid, avoid? 793 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,932 A wise man once said, 794 00:27:49,001 --> 00:27:51,402 "It ain't nothing illegal until you get caught." 795 00:27:51,404 --> 00:27:54,405 But if you know you're gonna get caught, 796 00:27:54,407 --> 00:27:56,740 yeah, avoid it at all costs. 797 00:27:56,842 --> 00:27:57,708 Sure. 798 00:27:57,810 --> 00:28:01,912 And you went to a very extreme 799 00:28:01,914 --> 00:28:03,647 -in your avoidance. -Absolutely. 800 00:28:03,716 --> 00:28:05,616 And we have a little bit of a sneak peek. 801 00:28:05,618 --> 00:28:07,951 Check out what Josh did. 802 00:28:08,821 --> 00:28:12,723 [rock music playing] 803 00:28:12,825 --> 00:28:14,858 [Josh] I don't have any ide where the hell I am right no 804 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,960 but I know I'm somewhere in Brazil. 805 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:18,662 Chris told me you can ride some bikes. 806 00:28:18,764 --> 00:28:19,896 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 807 00:28:19,898 --> 00:28:20,731 [man] What do you say about these two here? 808 00:28:20,733 --> 00:28:23,100 [Josh] Those are awesome. 809 00:28:23,102 --> 00:28:24,435 Chris wanted me to come down here 810 00:28:24,503 --> 00:28:25,936 and find the perfect coffee bean 811 00:28:26,005 --> 00:28:27,104 to mix with alcohol. 812 00:28:28,841 --> 00:28:30,040 We're definitely on to something. 813 00:28:31,143 --> 00:28:32,609 It don't get no better. 814 00:28:33,746 --> 00:28:36,113 Josh, you literally left the country. 815 00:28:36,115 --> 00:28:37,748 -I sure did. -[Matthew] Okay. 816 00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:39,917 I got a job and I went on a mission. 817 00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:42,820 So why Brazil? 818 00:28:42,922 --> 00:28:45,522 Well, because I've got some business partners 819 00:28:45,524 --> 00:28:48,592 that I've went into a coffee business with. 820 00:28:48,594 --> 00:28:52,129 And they asked me to go to Brazil 821 00:28:52,131 --> 00:28:53,530 and find the perfect coffee bean 822 00:28:53,532 --> 00:28:54,865 to mix with alcohol. 823 00:28:54,934 --> 00:28:57,401 The only problem was, it just didn't last long enough. 824 00:28:57,503 --> 00:28:58,836 It was over in a blink of an eye 825 00:28:58,938 --> 00:29:00,804 but I learned how to make Brazilian moonshine 826 00:29:00,939 --> 00:29:02,206 called cachaca. 827 00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:03,707 I found so much that 828 00:29:03,809 --> 00:29:05,342 I almost didn't even wanna come home. 829 00:29:05,444 --> 00:29:07,111 -It was amazing. -[Matthew] I guess so. 830 00:29:07,113 --> 00:29:08,045 Okay. 831 00:29:08,147 --> 00:29:10,147 Let's change gears here for a second. 832 00:29:10,249 --> 00:29:13,117 With many of our shiners' freedom on the line, 833 00:29:13,218 --> 00:29:14,718 we thought it would be helpful 834 00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:17,988 to get a little advice from an expert on jail. 835 00:29:19,825 --> 00:29:21,024 Hey, yo dudes. 836 00:29:21,026 --> 00:29:22,726 [laughter] 837 00:29:22,728 --> 00:29:26,830 It's time for Tickle's Jailbird Match Game. 838 00:29:26,965 --> 00:29:27,897 Gentlemen, we all know 839 00:29:27,899 --> 00:29:29,366 Tickle has done some time in jail, 840 00:29:29,368 --> 00:29:31,602 so we decided to come up with a game 841 00:29:31,704 --> 00:29:34,438 where we asked a series of questions to Tickle 842 00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:36,907 about the dos and don'ts of being in jail. 843 00:29:36,909 --> 00:29:39,710 Shiners, the goal is to match 844 00:29:39,712 --> 00:29:42,212 Tickles' answers, okay? 845 00:29:42,214 --> 00:29:43,113 Hmm. 846 00:29:43,115 --> 00:29:44,414 In order to win, 847 00:29:44,517 --> 00:29:47,117 you have to think like Tickle. 848 00:29:47,252 --> 00:29:48,118 That's impossible. 849 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:49,620 -[laughter] -Very. Hey. 850 00:29:49,722 --> 00:29:50,621 Yeah. 851 00:29:50,722 --> 00:29:51,955 -Let's see. -[laughter] 852 00:29:52,057 --> 00:29:54,258 All right. First one, here we go. 853 00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:58,061 In jail, if you want respect from your cellmate, 854 00:29:58,163 --> 00:30:02,032 you should give him blank in return. 855 00:30:05,404 --> 00:30:07,337 What did you say, Tickle? 856 00:30:07,406 --> 00:30:08,939 I said respect. 857 00:30:09,008 --> 00:30:10,340 Respect. 858 00:30:10,442 --> 00:30:14,411 What did Mike... say? 859 00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:16,046 An ass whipping. 860 00:30:16,115 --> 00:30:17,648 [laughter] 861 00:30:17,716 --> 00:30:19,850 Josh, what did you say? 862 00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:21,952 Jailhouse moonshine. 863 00:30:22,087 --> 00:30:23,854 Both good ideas except 864 00:30:23,956 --> 00:30:25,656 not the right answer. 865 00:30:25,724 --> 00:30:26,757 Okay. 866 00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:29,827 If someone is blanking you in jail, 867 00:30:29,962 --> 00:30:31,695 you should just take it like a man. 868 00:30:31,697 --> 00:30:33,063 What the hell? 869 00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:35,065 God, man. 870 00:30:35,133 --> 00:30:36,099 Come on now. 871 00:30:36,101 --> 00:30:38,936 Y'all ought to know the answer to this one. 872 00:30:39,037 --> 00:30:40,637 Tickle, what did you say? 873 00:30:40,739 --> 00:30:42,406 Or trying to. 874 00:30:42,408 --> 00:30:43,707 Beating you up. 875 00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:46,043 Mike, if someone is blanking you in jail, 876 00:30:46,111 --> 00:30:47,311 you said? 877 00:30:47,313 --> 00:30:49,613 -Bullying. -[Matthew] Bullying. 878 00:30:49,615 --> 00:30:51,715 -Very good. -I think I'd give him bullying. 879 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:52,816 -Yeah? -I think I would too. 880 00:30:52,818 --> 00:30:55,052 Okay. What did you say, Josh? 881 00:30:55,153 --> 00:30:57,054 Beating some ass. 882 00:30:57,155 --> 00:30:58,555 Ah! 883 00:30:58,657 --> 00:31:01,124 Also, I think that's appropriate. 884 00:31:01,227 --> 00:31:03,427 Josh's... Was a twofer. 885 00:31:03,529 --> 00:31:08,398 -Twofer. -[laughter] 886 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,133 That's not exactly what I meant. 887 00:31:10,235 --> 00:31:11,902 [laughter] 888 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,039 There we go. Next one. 889 00:31:16,141 --> 00:31:20,043 Tickle says it's the biggest cause of fights in jail. 890 00:31:20,145 --> 00:31:21,645 If it's not your turn, 891 00:31:21,747 --> 00:31:23,447 you should never touch blank. 892 00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:28,652 Tickle says it's the biggest cause of fights in jail. 893 00:31:28,687 --> 00:31:30,120 If it's not your turn, 894 00:31:30,222 --> 00:31:32,723 you should never touch blank. 895 00:31:32,725 --> 00:31:34,958 It's not your turn. 896 00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:35,826 Pick. 897 00:31:35,928 --> 00:31:36,793 [chuckles] 898 00:31:36,795 --> 00:31:38,528 Okay. Here we go. 899 00:31:38,631 --> 00:31:39,529 What do you got, Tickle? 900 00:31:39,632 --> 00:31:40,664 What should they never touch? 901 00:31:40,733 --> 00:31:41,431 -The TV. -[Matthew] The TV. 902 00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:43,000 Oh, my God. 903 00:31:43,002 --> 00:31:43,934 The TV. 904 00:31:44,036 --> 00:31:46,203 Yup. Gentlemen? 905 00:31:46,205 --> 00:31:47,638 What are your answers? 906 00:31:47,739 --> 00:31:49,006 Someone's butt. 907 00:31:49,008 --> 00:31:50,941 [laughter] 908 00:31:51,043 --> 00:31:52,309 -I'm sorry. -How do you know 909 00:31:52,444 --> 00:31:54,511 it is your turn to touch somebody's butt? 910 00:31:54,613 --> 00:31:55,512 Well, I don't know. 911 00:31:55,647 --> 00:31:57,247 I've never been to jail like that. 912 00:31:57,349 --> 00:31:58,515 -No-- -I've never been... 913 00:31:58,517 --> 00:31:59,415 -[Matthew] Okay, gentlemen. -in jail like that either. 914 00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:01,151 But they did let you guys watch TV. 915 00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:02,352 -Damn. -I never been to jail 916 00:32:02,454 --> 00:32:04,054 like that either where you take turns 917 00:32:04,156 --> 00:32:06,356 touching everybody's little butt. 918 00:32:06,458 --> 00:32:08,325 I've never been to jail like that either. 919 00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:09,893 [Matthew] All right. Hold on. Let's see. 920 00:32:09,895 --> 00:32:11,128 -I don't write that... -[Matthew] Let's see how Josh-- 921 00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:12,229 I ain't touching no dude's butt. 922 00:32:12,331 --> 00:32:14,064 -Let's see how Josh does. -I don't know. 923 00:32:14,132 --> 00:32:15,098 -Desperate times calls for... -[Matthew] Jail-- 924 00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:17,501 desperate measures. 925 00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:18,802 A phone or window. 926 00:32:18,904 --> 00:32:21,638 I said the jail nurse, the phone, or the window. 927 00:32:21,707 --> 00:32:23,507 The jail nurse, the phone, or the window. 928 00:32:24,443 --> 00:32:25,943 That is not a television. 929 00:32:26,044 --> 00:32:27,044 You got me okay. 930 00:32:27,145 --> 00:32:28,946 The TV. 931 00:32:29,048 --> 00:32:30,747 -I don't know why-- -Final... 932 00:32:30,849 --> 00:32:31,815 question. 933 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:35,652 If you find yourself in an inmate's blank, 934 00:32:35,721 --> 00:32:36,920 you better be invited. 935 00:32:38,023 --> 00:32:40,958 [country music playing] 936 00:32:41,026 --> 00:32:44,428 If you find yourself in an inmate's blank, 937 00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:46,430 you better be invited. 938 00:32:46,432 --> 00:32:47,464 Tickle? 939 00:32:47,532 --> 00:32:48,631 Jail cell. 940 00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:50,033 -[Matthew] That is-- -[Tickle] Because if you... 941 00:32:50,102 --> 00:32:51,802 if you have not been invited in there 942 00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:53,103 means you're in there to steal something. 943 00:32:53,205 --> 00:32:53,937 Yup. 944 00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:56,506 Let's see what Mike said. 945 00:32:56,508 --> 00:32:58,608 -Bed/space. -[Matthew] Bed space. 946 00:32:58,711 --> 00:32:59,609 That's in the cell, right? 947 00:32:59,712 --> 00:33:02,045 I'll take that. Okay. 948 00:33:02,114 --> 00:33:04,314 And bed. Bed. 949 00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:06,917 I feel like... Congratulations. 950 00:33:06,919 --> 00:33:08,819 You two... have thought like Tickle. 951 00:33:08,921 --> 00:33:10,921 Oh, no, that's screwed up questions. 952 00:33:10,923 --> 00:33:13,023 That was a set up question is what that was. 953 00:33:13,025 --> 00:33:15,192 [laughter] 954 00:33:15,194 --> 00:33:16,626 All right. Coming up, 955 00:33:16,729 --> 00:33:19,062 we are going to reveal Mark and Digger's 956 00:33:19,164 --> 00:33:20,430 world of trouble. 957 00:33:20,432 --> 00:33:21,798 Don't go away. 958 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,035 [Mark] Our pumps on run down around this bend. 959 00:33:25,104 --> 00:33:26,603 Oh, hell. 960 00:33:26,705 --> 00:33:28,605 This ain't good at all. 961 00:33:28,707 --> 00:33:30,540 I see the end of the pipe. 962 00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:33,043 But at the end of that pipe there ain't no ram pump. 963 00:33:33,112 --> 00:33:35,112 Son of a bitch! 964 00:33:35,948 --> 00:33:38,248 [theme music playing] 965 00:33:39,084 --> 00:33:40,183 All right, guys. 966 00:33:40,219 --> 00:33:42,919 I want you to all write down one prediction 967 00:33:42,921 --> 00:33:44,121 for season 12 968 00:33:44,123 --> 00:33:45,722 but it can't be about yourself. 969 00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:46,623 [Digger] Oh. 970 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,027 Digger, let's start with you. 971 00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:52,029 -Josh bleeds. -[Matthew] Josh bleeds. 972 00:33:52,164 --> 00:33:54,031 [laughter] 973 00:33:54,033 --> 00:33:55,265 Son of a bitch. 974 00:33:56,035 --> 00:33:57,601 Okay, Mark. 975 00:33:57,703 --> 00:33:59,836 Someone will get busted. 976 00:34:00,005 --> 00:34:03,106 Oh, your confidence level ain't too high. 977 00:34:03,108 --> 00:34:04,708 No, no, I admit it. 978 00:34:04,843 --> 00:34:06,510 Tickle? 979 00:34:06,512 --> 00:34:07,844 They gonna make some liquor. 980 00:34:07,946 --> 00:34:09,713 They gonna make some liquor. 981 00:34:09,815 --> 00:34:10,847 All right, Mike. 982 00:34:10,916 --> 00:34:12,949 Someone may go to jail. Let's hope not. 983 00:34:13,052 --> 00:34:15,118 It's gotta be somebody else this time. 984 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,186 I didn't done it too many times. 985 00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:17,621 Tickle's done with jail. 986 00:34:17,623 --> 00:34:18,955 Well, you are used to it. 987 00:34:19,024 --> 00:34:19,856 Josh? 988 00:34:20,726 --> 00:34:22,726 That no one else loses a finger. 989 00:34:22,861 --> 00:34:24,961 -There you go... [laughs] -He's thinking about you guys. 990 00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:26,630 -Bless his heart. -[Digger] I hope. 991 00:34:26,732 --> 00:34:27,931 -I'll take that. -Yeah. 992 00:34:27,933 --> 00:34:29,833 I hope the first one is the biggest negative. 993 00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:32,903 [laughter] 994 00:34:32,905 --> 00:34:33,937 At least I'm good for something. 995 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:35,005 I'm sorry. 996 00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:38,942 [theme music playing] 997 00:34:39,044 --> 00:34:41,211 Me and you both had people betting against us 998 00:34:41,213 --> 00:34:42,312 making it to 30. 999 00:34:42,314 --> 00:34:43,613 [man] Bet my life. 1000 00:34:43,682 --> 00:34:44,815 [laughs] 1001 00:34:51,056 --> 00:34:52,689 Oh, hell fire. 1002 00:34:53,959 --> 00:34:56,059 You know, I see something out of the corner of my eye, 1003 00:34:56,128 --> 00:34:58,562 then over my shoulder, boom, on the bar... 1004 00:34:58,630 --> 00:35:00,931 a ram pump from our still site. 1005 00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:02,933 God Almighty. 1006 00:35:03,034 --> 00:35:05,302 I figured he's dogging our ass. 1007 00:35:05,304 --> 00:35:07,204 Welcome back to the Moonshiners 1008 00:35:07,206 --> 00:35:09,539 Season 12 Kickoff Summit. 1009 00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:11,608 I'm Moonshiners, executive producer, 1010 00:35:11,710 --> 00:35:12,709 Matthew Ostrom. 1011 00:35:12,711 --> 00:35:14,311 We're about to reveal what happened 1012 00:35:14,313 --> 00:35:15,712 to Mark and Digger 1013 00:35:15,714 --> 00:35:17,948 that could end their moonshining career for good. 1014 00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:19,049 All right, Mark and Digger, 1015 00:35:19,151 --> 00:35:20,684 you guys are in the middle 1016 00:35:20,686 --> 00:35:23,687 of a real cat and mouse with the law. 1017 00:35:23,689 --> 00:35:25,755 It's more like a headache and heartache 1018 00:35:25,857 --> 00:35:27,224 -in my words. -You know, honestly, yeah, 1019 00:35:27,226 --> 00:35:28,892 cat and mouse, 1020 00:35:28,961 --> 00:35:30,760 probably a good, good description, 1021 00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:32,829 but we're not the cat. 1022 00:35:32,931 --> 00:35:35,499 And we're not really fast masters either. 1023 00:35:35,501 --> 00:35:36,399 -[Mark] Right. -Yeah. 1024 00:35:36,401 --> 00:35:37,534 -We move slow. -It's... 1025 00:35:37,603 --> 00:35:38,668 -[Matthew] Sure. -you know, we... 1026 00:35:38,704 --> 00:35:40,303 -[Matthew] So it-- -really got a target on us. 1027 00:35:40,305 --> 00:35:42,005 It really started last season, right? 1028 00:35:42,007 --> 00:35:43,006 It did. In fact, 1029 00:35:43,008 --> 00:35:45,542 we have had run-ins with our city law 1030 00:35:45,611 --> 00:35:47,344 with our Chief of Police Marie Shields 1031 00:35:48,213 --> 00:35:49,913 and ran us out of town. 1032 00:35:49,915 --> 00:35:51,681 And which we were more than happy 1033 00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:53,750 to comply with that. 1034 00:35:53,852 --> 00:35:55,952 That was at the very beginning of last season... 1035 00:35:56,021 --> 00:35:57,020 -[Digger] Yes. -right? 1036 00:35:57,022 --> 00:35:58,622 That was in your garage space? 1037 00:35:58,724 --> 00:36:00,624 -[Mark] It was. Yeah. -And I guess we thought, 1038 00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:02,125 "Okay, we had a little run-in. 1039 00:36:02,127 --> 00:36:03,627 That's gonna be the end of that." 1040 00:36:03,728 --> 00:36:05,328 So I just... I blamed it on, 1041 00:36:05,397 --> 00:36:07,931 "Oh, we're just getting too complacent." 1042 00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:09,733 But we've been on a whole 1043 00:36:09,835 --> 00:36:11,935 another complete different officer that... 1044 00:36:12,037 --> 00:36:14,437 -[Digger] Yeah. -is very intent on his job. 1045 00:36:14,539 --> 00:36:16,306 He's a dog with a bone at this point. 1046 00:36:16,441 --> 00:36:18,708 So the end of last season, 1047 00:36:19,311 --> 00:36:20,677 you got pulled over. 1048 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:23,747 That's different than the officer 1049 00:36:23,815 --> 00:36:25,615 that gave you trouble at the beginning of... 1050 00:36:25,684 --> 00:36:26,516 -[Digger] Yeah. -the season last year? 1051 00:36:26,618 --> 00:36:27,851 That... This is a detective 1052 00:36:27,953 --> 00:36:29,686 with our local sheriff's department. 1053 00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:31,922 -Okay. -And he seemed to be making it 1054 00:36:31,924 --> 00:36:36,760 his personal vendetta to get us off this show 1055 00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:37,961 or whatever he's after. 1056 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:39,229 If you remember last year, 1057 00:36:39,331 --> 00:36:42,799 Digger and I had a... had barrels in the truck. 1058 00:36:42,801 --> 00:36:45,035 -That's right. -And Daniel was actually 1059 00:36:45,136 --> 00:36:47,604 going to Nashville with a load of liquor. 1060 00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:50,740 We was driving in front of Daniel 1061 00:36:50,842 --> 00:36:52,309 when he pulled us over. 1062 00:36:52,411 --> 00:36:55,045 And when we both pulled over, 1063 00:36:55,146 --> 00:36:57,547 he told Daniel, he said, "No, I'm not after you. 1064 00:36:57,649 --> 00:36:58,715 I'm after them." 1065 00:36:58,784 --> 00:36:59,916 He told him get on down the road. 1066 00:36:59,918 --> 00:37:01,151 "And you go on down the road." 1067 00:37:01,253 --> 00:37:03,019 So Daniel drove off with the liquor. 1068 00:37:03,154 --> 00:37:05,155 We didn't have anything in the barrels. 1069 00:37:05,257 --> 00:37:06,723 -Sure. -And my thinking is 1070 00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:08,758 that when he saw what actually happened, 1071 00:37:08,860 --> 00:37:10,760 you know, it left him with egg on his face 1072 00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:12,128 and I got... 1073 00:37:12,231 --> 00:37:14,164 -He means to get even. -Sure. 1074 00:37:14,233 --> 00:37:16,299 And I think this season 1075 00:37:16,301 --> 00:37:18,735 in the first episode, 1076 00:37:18,804 --> 00:37:20,937 you guys had a real rush 1077 00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:22,706 with the same officer, right? 1078 00:37:22,708 --> 00:37:23,907 We did in fact. 1079 00:37:23,909 --> 00:37:25,809 Yeah. It was... 1080 00:37:25,811 --> 00:37:27,911 Man, me and Digger, we was in our 1081 00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:31,147 favorite place in the world at the bar having a beer, 1082 00:37:31,183 --> 00:37:33,216 thinking nothing in the world was wrong. 1083 00:37:33,218 --> 00:37:35,452 Not even thinking about making liquor that day. 1084 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,120 And out of the damn blue, 1085 00:37:37,122 --> 00:37:38,955 I mean, it just... 1086 00:37:39,057 --> 00:37:41,224 We got the sails took out from under us. 1087 00:37:41,326 --> 00:37:43,159 So this guy found a ram pump, 1088 00:37:43,228 --> 00:37:44,227 so what does that mean? 1089 00:37:44,229 --> 00:37:45,862 He didn't just find a ram pump. 1090 00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:47,764 -He found our ram pump. -He found our ram pump. 1091 00:37:47,832 --> 00:37:49,299 We knew it was ours just as soon as 1092 00:37:49,301 --> 00:37:50,834 he threw it on that bar. 1093 00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:53,136 And if you think that your heart won't sink 1094 00:37:53,205 --> 00:37:55,105 from that moment on for probably three hours, 1095 00:37:55,207 --> 00:37:58,208 I could feel my heartbeat in my ass cheeks. 1096 00:37:58,210 --> 00:38:00,110 My hind end rode up so tight, 1097 00:38:00,212 --> 00:38:01,811 you couldn't got a straight pen in it 1098 00:38:01,813 --> 00:38:03,313 with a sledgehammer. 1099 00:38:03,315 --> 00:38:04,914 I mean, we didn't know what to say 1100 00:38:04,916 --> 00:38:06,750 and what made it so bad. 1101 00:38:06,818 --> 00:38:09,719 We... He just walked in, set it on the bar... 1102 00:38:09,721 --> 00:38:11,121 -Never said a single word. -never said a word with us, 1103 00:38:11,123 --> 00:38:12,822 turned around and left. 1104 00:38:12,824 --> 00:38:14,758 I mean, we knew immediately. 1105 00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:18,228 So, does that mean you guys are caught? 1106 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:19,963 Our biggest problem is you. 1107 00:38:20,032 --> 00:38:21,765 And although we don't think 1108 00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:23,099 making liquor is that big a deal, 1109 00:38:23,101 --> 00:38:25,235 in some people's eyes, it still is. 1110 00:38:25,337 --> 00:38:26,836 But the old adage, you do wrong, 1111 00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:28,905 so long you think it's right, 1112 00:38:28,907 --> 00:38:30,607 that may be where we're at in life. 1113 00:38:30,709 --> 00:38:34,044 Is it getting too dangerous for you guys? 1114 00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:35,045 I love him to death 1115 00:38:35,113 --> 00:38:36,413 but I don't wanna go to jail with him. 1116 00:38:36,415 --> 00:38:37,747 -[chuckles] -[Mark] Oh, no. 1117 00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:39,215 No, I don't wanna go to jail at all 1118 00:38:39,318 --> 00:38:41,685 but, you know, the thing about it is, 1119 00:38:41,687 --> 00:38:44,054 this officer is... He's onto us 1120 00:38:44,155 --> 00:38:46,623 and he's not giving up. 1121 00:38:46,725 --> 00:38:47,957 [Matthew] Okay. 1122 00:38:48,059 --> 00:38:49,926 I just hope I don't break out in handcuffs. 1123 00:38:49,928 --> 00:38:51,027 All right. Here's a little taste 1124 00:38:51,029 --> 00:38:53,196 of what to expect. 1125 00:38:53,198 --> 00:38:56,199 [Digger] I'll pump this high-dollar gasoline 1126 00:38:56,201 --> 00:38:57,801 about as I hate to. 1127 00:38:58,737 --> 00:39:00,036 [machine beeping] 1128 00:39:00,105 --> 00:39:01,338 [siren wails] 1129 00:39:02,341 --> 00:39:03,340 [Digger] Oh, hell. 1130 00:39:03,408 --> 00:39:05,975 David Robertson, the detective. 1131 00:39:08,246 --> 00:39:11,314 What's going on today, everybody? 1132 00:39:11,416 --> 00:39:14,417 [Digger] Well, popping little of this high-dollar gasoline. 1133 00:39:14,419 --> 00:39:17,520 You gotta go get that feed ground up for 'em chickens. 1134 00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:20,156 Hey, Mark, come on over here, buddy. 1135 00:39:20,225 --> 00:39:21,358 What's going on, cap? 1136 00:39:21,426 --> 00:39:23,426 Look like it's getting to no good today, are you? 1137 00:39:23,428 --> 00:39:24,961 No, sir, we're not. 1138 00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:26,730 Been pretty hot out too, ain't it? 1139 00:39:26,832 --> 00:39:27,731 [Mark] Oh, yeah, it's a little hot. 1140 00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:28,731 [Digger] It's been miserable. 1141 00:39:28,733 --> 00:39:30,200 It's about get real damn hot, boys, 1142 00:39:30,202 --> 00:39:31,801 so you better get ready for it. 1143 00:39:34,339 --> 00:39:36,005 We unhook that trailer, we'll pull up 1144 00:39:36,007 --> 00:39:37,741 -and throw these back there. -Off we go. 1145 00:39:37,842 --> 00:39:39,709 We just found out that Detective Robertson's 1146 00:39:39,844 --> 00:39:41,811 out of town for an in-service training, 1147 00:39:41,813 --> 00:39:43,613 couldn't be a more perfect time 1148 00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:45,048 to do a run on Big Sloppy. 1149 00:39:45,150 --> 00:39:46,616 Detective Robertson, 1150 00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:49,819 he is probably one of the sharpest officers 1151 00:39:49,921 --> 00:39:51,855 we've got on our department here. 1152 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:54,457 If Detective Robertson was still in town, 1153 00:39:54,526 --> 00:39:56,159 we'd never consider making a move like this. 1154 00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:57,327 It's too bold. 1155 00:40:02,334 --> 00:40:04,734 [Mark] [bleep] There's your hide-a-key. 1156 00:40:04,803 --> 00:40:06,536 [Digger] I ain't got no hide-a-key. 1157 00:40:06,638 --> 00:40:07,837 Well, what is it? 1158 00:40:08,607 --> 00:40:10,140 [Digger] It's a tracking device. 1159 00:40:10,241 --> 00:40:12,208 -Uh-uh. Ain't no way. -It is. 1160 00:40:13,712 --> 00:40:15,211 Well, how in hell do you think David Robertson knows 1161 00:40:15,346 --> 00:40:16,913 everywhere we're at all the time? 1162 00:40:18,316 --> 00:40:19,416 Okay. 1163 00:40:19,484 --> 00:40:21,851 Well, that's our summit for tonight. 1164 00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:24,220 I wanna thank all our shiners for being here. 1165 00:40:24,322 --> 00:40:27,056 Get ready for a brand new season of Moonshiners. 1166 00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:28,324 I'm Matthew Ostrom. 1167 00:40:28,427 --> 00:40:29,426 Till next time.