1 00:01:08,208 --> 00:01:10,041 It's like a trail of victims 2 00:01:10,042 --> 00:01:12,417 as you were walking into the house. 3 00:01:12,542 --> 00:01:13,750 We were thinking that this guy 4 00:01:13,875 --> 00:01:15,833 was just a cold-hearted killer. 5 00:01:17,542 --> 00:01:20,000 For those most affected by a homicide... 6 00:01:20,125 --> 00:01:23,667 I just can't even begin to put into words 7 00:01:23,792 --> 00:01:26,541 how much life has changed. 8 00:01:26,542 --> 00:01:29,667 The first 48 is just the beginning. 9 00:01:29,792 --> 00:01:31,541 There's the suspect. 10 00:01:31,542 --> 00:01:33,166 These three murders were committed 11 00:01:33,167 --> 00:01:35,249 within six minutes. 12 00:01:35,250 --> 00:01:36,750 This crime was not random. 13 00:01:36,875 --> 00:01:40,207 This is the story of the fight for justice... 14 00:01:40,208 --> 00:01:42,167 My client was in fear he would be killed. 15 00:01:42,292 --> 00:01:43,707 He could say anything. 16 00:01:43,708 --> 00:01:47,207 In the weeks, months, and years... 17 00:01:47,208 --> 00:01:49,832 The defense only has to convince one person 18 00:01:49,833 --> 00:01:53,125 of their story, and we lose. 19 00:01:53,292 --> 00:01:56,166 After the first 48. 20 00:02:06,375 --> 00:02:08,167 I'd always been interested in policing 21 00:02:08,292 --> 00:02:10,582 ever since I was a young kid. 22 00:02:10,583 --> 00:02:14,208 As soon as I started, I just fell in love with it. 23 00:02:14,333 --> 00:02:16,375 I was the investigator on call. 24 00:02:16,542 --> 00:02:19,208 When I heard triple homicide, I was very shocked. 25 00:02:19,333 --> 00:02:21,417 They don't happen very often anywhere, 26 00:02:21,542 --> 00:02:23,333 you know, especially in Gwinnett County. 27 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:26,916 You know, you get the chills. Body temperature goes up. 28 00:02:26,917 --> 00:02:29,375 It's my first triple. 29 00:02:29,500 --> 00:02:31,417 we know that two of them are still at the house, 30 00:02:31,542 --> 00:02:33,667 and the third one ended up not making it 31 00:02:33,792 --> 00:02:36,332 on the way to the hospital. 32 00:02:36,333 --> 00:02:37,832 The victim at the hospital 33 00:02:37,833 --> 00:02:39,583 is a 45-year-old Black male. 34 00:02:39,708 --> 00:02:42,374 He suffered three bullet wounds to the chest 35 00:02:42,375 --> 00:02:46,167 and was shot once in the back, shoulder, and leg. 36 00:02:46,292 --> 00:02:47,875 When Loomis and I pulled up, 37 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,042 there are so many things that are running through your head 38 00:02:50,167 --> 00:02:51,541 at that time. 39 00:02:51,542 --> 00:02:54,041 Victim was sitting kind of propped up, 40 00:02:54,042 --> 00:02:55,458 leaning against the door. 41 00:02:57,583 --> 00:03:00,124 There's two dead bodies in the house. 42 00:03:00,125 --> 00:03:01,874 The homeowner? 43 00:03:01,875 --> 00:03:03,999 He was inside the house. 44 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,832 Robert Caverly. 45 00:03:08,375 --> 00:03:11,291 64-year-old Robert Caverly, 46 00:03:11,292 --> 00:03:14,916 known as Bob, worked as a maintenance engineer. 47 00:03:14,917 --> 00:03:18,707 He is survived by his mother and three brothers. 48 00:03:21,542 --> 00:03:22,667 So the guy in the garage, 49 00:03:22,792 --> 00:03:24,582 we have no clue who he is. 50 00:03:26,167 --> 00:03:29,375 The second victim, we didn't have any identification on him. 51 00:03:37,042 --> 00:03:38,167 It could be the shooter. 52 00:03:38,333 --> 00:03:39,749 Yeah. 53 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:42,416 We didn't know where the suspect was. 54 00:03:42,417 --> 00:03:44,583 It increases your stress level. 55 00:03:44,708 --> 00:03:48,917 You never know if he's gonna go keep on killing after that. 56 00:03:49,042 --> 00:03:51,249 So we called the K-9 unit out. 57 00:03:51,250 --> 00:03:53,208 Any available means at our department 58 00:03:53,375 --> 00:03:56,541 to find this person, they're willing to provide it. 59 00:04:14,708 --> 00:04:16,542 Air units join the search using 60 00:04:16,667 --> 00:04:20,207 thermal imaging cameras that can track body heat. 61 00:04:31,125 --> 00:04:32,167 Sounds good. 62 00:04:34,375 --> 00:04:36,375 Oh. 63 00:04:36,500 --> 00:04:38,499 We saw a 9-millimeter pistol 64 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:43,374 that had been dropped in the grass that had blood on it. 65 00:04:43,375 --> 00:04:46,333 There was a car door open. 66 00:04:46,458 --> 00:04:49,457 We knew something had taken place outside. 67 00:04:49,458 --> 00:04:51,375 We're trying to process all this. 68 00:04:51,500 --> 00:04:53,583 Your senses are so heightened because you're just 69 00:04:53,708 --> 00:04:56,207 trying not to miss anything. 70 00:04:56,208 --> 00:04:58,249 As we're walking in the garage, 71 00:04:58,250 --> 00:05:00,541 the second victim, 72 00:05:00,542 --> 00:05:02,583 he's just laying on the floor in the corner. 73 00:05:04,083 --> 00:05:05,208 Yeah, I see it. 74 00:05:05,375 --> 00:05:09,916 He looks like a younger white male, maybe 20s. 75 00:05:09,917 --> 00:05:12,707 And there were some glasses, but they were broken 76 00:05:12,708 --> 00:05:14,707 right there on the steps. 77 00:05:14,708 --> 00:05:17,707 The victim in the garage was shot four times, 78 00:05:17,708 --> 00:05:21,625 once in his head and back and twice in his legs. 79 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:27,707 The team finds 14 .40 caliber casings 80 00:05:27,708 --> 00:05:29,583 at the scene. 81 00:05:33,542 --> 00:05:35,042 I don't know. 82 00:05:36,625 --> 00:05:38,249 In the living room... 83 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:39,416 He was like that 84 00:05:39,417 --> 00:05:41,375 with the pooling of the blood. 85 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:44,583 The homeowner, Bob, has one gunshot wound 86 00:05:44,708 --> 00:05:47,875 to his chest and one to his arm. 87 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,999 There's a shell casing. 88 00:05:54,292 --> 00:05:57,000 Both casings are 9-millimeter. 89 00:05:57,125 --> 00:05:59,042 Bob was an older man. 90 00:05:59,167 --> 00:06:02,249 It appeared he was shot either coming down the stairs 91 00:06:02,250 --> 00:06:04,667 and/or while he was trying to get out the front door. 92 00:06:04,792 --> 00:06:06,707 You know, at this point, we were thinking 93 00:06:06,708 --> 00:06:09,375 that this guy was just a cold-hearted killer. 94 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:13,249 Like he was dead set on looking for something, 95 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:15,333 because it's like a trail of victims 96 00:06:15,458 --> 00:06:17,750 as you were walking into the house. 97 00:06:19,292 --> 00:06:20,833 Upstairs... 98 00:06:23,875 --> 00:06:26,042 As we were going through the residence, 99 00:06:26,167 --> 00:06:28,000 we located a child's bedroom. 100 00:06:30,250 --> 00:06:32,041 I did it myself. OK. 101 00:06:32,042 --> 00:06:33,291 And they never had seen this young child, 102 00:06:33,292 --> 00:06:34,833 so we were very concerned. 103 00:06:36,833 --> 00:06:39,333 Worst-case scenario is whoever committed 104 00:06:39,458 --> 00:06:42,582 the three homicides took the child with them 105 00:06:42,583 --> 00:06:46,375 that we possibly have a kidnapping that occurred. 106 00:06:46,542 --> 00:06:47,583 Then... 107 00:06:47,708 --> 00:06:50,083 Homeowner here, directly to the left. 108 00:06:50,208 --> 00:06:52,916 He said the Bob guy had just gotten a roommate. 109 00:06:54,583 --> 00:06:56,833 Maybe a few months ago or earlier this year. 110 00:06:56,958 --> 00:06:58,374 There was a kid-- 111 00:06:58,375 --> 00:06:59,917 Black girl was with a kid? 112 00:07:00,042 --> 00:07:03,542 Yeah, and then a female. 113 00:07:03,708 --> 00:07:05,542 So it wasn't Bob's kid? 114 00:07:05,667 --> 00:07:07,749 No, no. - Yeah. 115 00:07:07,750 --> 00:07:11,375 So we reached out to the Gwinnett School Police 116 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:13,957 to try and find out, hey, are there any students 117 00:07:13,958 --> 00:07:15,582 that live at this house? 118 00:07:15,583 --> 00:07:17,082 That way we could find some kind of-- 119 00:07:17,083 --> 00:07:18,583 you know, the name of the kid 120 00:07:18,708 --> 00:07:20,749 and also if there's an emergency contact. 121 00:07:22,625 --> 00:07:25,375 There was a huge sense of urgency to locate the child. 122 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:27,750 If we did have a kidnap scenario, 123 00:07:27,875 --> 00:07:31,582 that changes up absolutely everything. 124 00:07:31,583 --> 00:07:34,167 Two hours in, as officers search 125 00:07:34,292 --> 00:07:35,792 for the child... 126 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:39,958 The dog was able to pick up a scent. 127 00:07:47,042 --> 00:07:50,750 And then, just one block from the crime scene... 128 00:08:00,875 --> 00:08:03,500 This discovery, it's a big deal. 129 00:08:03,625 --> 00:08:07,542 Having narcotics in the bag, having additional guns, 130 00:08:07,667 --> 00:08:09,708 it shows that there's likely a motive 131 00:08:09,833 --> 00:08:12,499 behind why this person had come here 132 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:13,708 and committed these crimes. 133 00:08:13,833 --> 00:08:17,541 But it also makes you wonder, what's his end game? 134 00:08:17,542 --> 00:08:18,707 Air One checked the swamp. 135 00:08:18,708 --> 00:08:20,375 They've got no heat, so there's-- 136 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:23,041 I have nowhere to redeploy to try anything. 137 00:08:23,042 --> 00:08:24,458 We're all pretty tense. 138 00:08:24,583 --> 00:08:26,583 The worst thing that could happen in this case, 139 00:08:26,708 --> 00:08:28,957 you know, having the killer on the loose, 140 00:08:28,958 --> 00:08:31,500 is that he could go and do more home invasions 141 00:08:31,667 --> 00:08:33,957 and ultimately hurt more people. 142 00:08:33,958 --> 00:08:37,583 Three and a half hours in... 143 00:08:37,708 --> 00:08:39,124 Hey, Lieutenant Bozeman's got the number 144 00:08:39,125 --> 00:08:41,542 for the five-year-old's mom. 145 00:08:41,667 --> 00:08:43,875 The school police were able to tell us 146 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,541 who was the guardian of the child. 147 00:08:46,542 --> 00:08:49,000 She's in a hotel in Norcross. 148 00:08:49,167 --> 00:08:51,666 The woman is the fiancée of the victim 149 00:08:51,667 --> 00:08:53,541 who died at the hospital. 150 00:08:56,917 --> 00:08:58,541 Hey, this is Corporal Loomis with Gwinnett Police. 151 00:08:58,542 --> 00:08:59,625 How are you? 152 00:09:04,958 --> 00:09:06,042 We were trying to get in touch with you 153 00:09:06,167 --> 00:09:07,874 just to make sure you're OK. 154 00:09:07,875 --> 00:09:09,792 And were you here earlier today at all? 155 00:09:14,583 --> 00:09:16,832 She says she left the house two days ago 156 00:09:16,833 --> 00:09:19,624 after a fight with her fiancé. 157 00:09:19,625 --> 00:09:21,000 OK. 158 00:09:21,167 --> 00:09:23,916 Loomis asks her about the missing child. 159 00:09:23,917 --> 00:09:26,874 We're just curious, is he with you? 160 00:09:30,292 --> 00:09:31,749 We were all real relieved. 161 00:09:31,750 --> 00:09:33,208 The child was with one of her relatives, 162 00:09:33,333 --> 00:09:36,000 so that was a lot of weight off our shoulders. 163 00:09:36,125 --> 00:09:38,667 Who else was here at the house who wore glasses? 164 00:09:41,875 --> 00:09:44,041 33-year-old Steven Finch 165 00:09:44,042 --> 00:09:47,833 worked as a filleter for a local seafood company. 166 00:09:47,958 --> 00:09:53,042 He leaves behind his parents, two sisters, and two brothers. 167 00:09:56,375 --> 00:09:58,999 She says she spoke with her fiancé 168 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,916 on the phone a few hours ago, 169 00:10:00,917 --> 00:10:04,083 and he was hanging out with Steven. 170 00:10:12,833 --> 00:10:15,583 Did they say what they were gonna do today? 171 00:10:27,042 --> 00:10:30,041 Um, it was bad. 172 00:10:30,042 --> 00:10:31,541 OK? I'm sorry. 173 00:10:31,542 --> 00:10:33,583 He--he passed away. 174 00:10:39,542 --> 00:10:42,416 I'll be there soon, OK? 175 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:47,083 She hung up. 176 00:10:47,208 --> 00:10:48,417 It's tough. 177 00:10:48,542 --> 00:10:50,874 It's hard to not get emotional 178 00:10:50,875 --> 00:10:53,000 because it's almost like you're there with them, 179 00:10:53,125 --> 00:10:55,207 because you can just feel their emotions through the phone. 180 00:10:57,583 --> 00:11:00,375 Four hours in... 181 00:11:00,542 --> 00:11:01,667 Are you Jennifer? 182 00:11:03,042 --> 00:11:04,708 Loomis and Corporal Smith 183 00:11:04,875 --> 00:11:09,124 meet the fiancée of the victim who died at the hospital. 184 00:11:09,125 --> 00:11:11,042 We were trying to learn about the other victims 185 00:11:11,167 --> 00:11:12,667 so we could figure out if they had 186 00:11:12,833 --> 00:11:15,041 any enemies or any relationships 187 00:11:15,042 --> 00:11:16,957 with family members that were going sour, 188 00:11:16,958 --> 00:11:19,167 anything like that whatsoever. 189 00:11:19,292 --> 00:11:22,750 When was the last time you were at the house? 190 00:11:58,708 --> 00:12:01,333 Family of Steven and the family of Bob 191 00:12:01,458 --> 00:12:04,666 were kind of bewildered how this even occurred. 192 00:12:06,250 --> 00:12:10,416 When you lose a loved one in a traumatic situation 193 00:12:10,417 --> 00:12:15,332 where you don't have any time to prepare, there's no goodbye, 194 00:12:15,333 --> 00:12:20,750 it's just a sudden tearing of this person out of your life. 195 00:12:20,875 --> 00:12:24,583 Jessica Gatlin, Steven Finch's sister, 196 00:12:24,708 --> 00:12:28,000 shared some of his drawings that he did, 197 00:12:28,125 --> 00:12:32,250 which are just kind of incredible. 198 00:12:32,375 --> 00:12:37,291 He was a very artistic, musically inclined person. 199 00:12:37,292 --> 00:12:40,708 He was her best friend. They grew up together. 200 00:12:40,875 --> 00:12:45,167 He loved his family dearly, just like Bob. 201 00:12:47,250 --> 00:12:49,833 Bob was the kind of guy that if you needed him, 202 00:12:49,958 --> 00:12:51,250 he was gonna be there. 203 00:12:51,458 --> 00:12:56,416 That house was the location where everything took place. 204 00:12:56,417 --> 00:12:59,667 He took people in that needed a place to stay. 205 00:12:59,792 --> 00:13:03,082 He met the first victim. He took him in. 206 00:13:03,083 --> 00:13:06,582 They are not just a body that's left behind. 207 00:13:06,583 --> 00:13:10,542 They are also a brother, a son, a friend, a neighbor. 208 00:13:10,667 --> 00:13:12,500 Their lives mattered. 209 00:13:27,458 --> 00:13:29,167 What's his name? 210 00:13:32,208 --> 00:13:34,917 Four hours after the shooting deaths of Bob, 211 00:13:35,042 --> 00:13:36,833 Steven, and the first victim... 212 00:13:36,958 --> 00:13:39,250 As we're talking to her, she says she thinks 213 00:13:39,375 --> 00:13:41,167 she may know who's involved with this. 214 00:13:51,375 --> 00:13:54,792 She said that her boyfriend was involved with some drugs. 215 00:14:07,375 --> 00:14:09,707 She says Justin thought her fiancé 216 00:14:09,708 --> 00:14:11,333 had set his brother up. 217 00:14:14,958 --> 00:14:18,500 So we were able to look up that police call, 218 00:14:18,625 --> 00:14:22,874 and we figured out who this Justin's brother was. 219 00:14:22,875 --> 00:14:24,708 And then we were able to figure out that Justin 220 00:14:24,875 --> 00:14:27,667 is actually Justice Lusk. 221 00:14:27,792 --> 00:14:29,833 This is Justin? 222 00:14:31,375 --> 00:14:32,416 OK. 223 00:14:32,417 --> 00:14:33,833 She identifies 21-year-old 224 00:14:33,958 --> 00:14:37,417 Justice Lusk as the man she knows as Justin. 225 00:14:37,542 --> 00:14:39,500 Justice works in landscaping. 226 00:14:39,625 --> 00:14:42,249 He has no prior convictions. 227 00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:44,541 That gave us our first lead in the case 228 00:14:44,542 --> 00:14:46,250 on who to go look for. 229 00:14:46,375 --> 00:14:48,707 But just because someone gives you a name 230 00:14:48,708 --> 00:14:50,083 doesn't give you enough probable cause 231 00:14:50,208 --> 00:14:51,583 to just go arrest them. 232 00:14:51,708 --> 00:14:54,082 We're gonna try and find where this person is right now 233 00:14:54,083 --> 00:14:56,874 so we can try and backtrack his movement 234 00:14:56,875 --> 00:14:58,250 and put them at the scene. 235 00:14:58,375 --> 00:15:01,082 So Mellow on scene says they were able to access 236 00:15:01,083 --> 00:15:02,624 the Ring camera across the street. 237 00:15:02,625 --> 00:15:04,207 All right, let's go. 238 00:15:08,083 --> 00:15:10,667 It's amazing the smallest things 239 00:15:10,792 --> 00:15:12,875 that could give you hope in a case. 240 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,542 Loomis and I, we were both trying 241 00:15:14,667 --> 00:15:16,916 to get the same information at the same time, 242 00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:19,667 to find out who the suspect was. 243 00:15:19,833 --> 00:15:22,582 There was quite a few doorbell cams 244 00:15:22,583 --> 00:15:24,374 in the cul-de-sac down there. 245 00:15:24,375 --> 00:15:27,542 And you could tell one of them had a very good view. 246 00:15:29,208 --> 00:15:30,417 You want to come watch this video? 247 00:15:30,542 --> 00:15:31,874 I got it pulled up. 248 00:15:40,458 --> 00:15:41,875 There's the suspect. 249 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,874 Camry drops him off. 250 00:15:43,875 --> 00:15:46,042 He's wearing sweatpants and, like, 251 00:15:46,167 --> 00:15:48,042 a bluish or grayish hoodie. 252 00:15:51,042 --> 00:15:52,666 It wasn't like a scream. 253 00:15:52,667 --> 00:15:54,166 It wasn't like, "Who are you?" 254 00:15:54,167 --> 00:15:55,374 It was, you know, 255 00:15:55,375 --> 00:15:57,082 "Don't come in here starting that." 256 00:15:57,083 --> 00:15:59,374 That let me know, hey, these people knew each other. 257 00:15:59,375 --> 00:16:01,082 Car leaves. 258 00:16:01,083 --> 00:16:02,667 Most likely an Uber. 259 00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:06,708 He gets shot. 260 00:16:06,875 --> 00:16:08,625 You can see him run out. 261 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,666 And it caught the first victim 262 00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:15,333 running out of the garage to the neighbor's house 263 00:16:15,458 --> 00:16:17,208 where he collapsed. 264 00:16:24,542 --> 00:16:26,208 The other car comes back. 265 00:16:33,083 --> 00:16:34,416 More gunfire. 266 00:16:36,083 --> 00:16:37,624 He takes off. 267 00:16:37,625 --> 00:16:40,333 I would assume the suspect called for a ride. 268 00:16:40,458 --> 00:16:42,792 His driver freaked out and took off. 269 00:16:44,458 --> 00:16:47,167 Shortly after a large volley of gunshots, 270 00:16:47,292 --> 00:16:48,708 you see the suspect emerge 271 00:16:48,833 --> 00:16:50,750 from the house carrying a backpack 272 00:16:50,917 --> 00:16:52,417 and a blanket stuffed with stuff. 273 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,208 And he tries to get into another rideshare 274 00:16:59,333 --> 00:17:01,707 that was for another neighbor's house. 275 00:17:01,708 --> 00:17:04,958 Then he takes off in-between these two houses. 276 00:17:05,083 --> 00:17:07,208 Unfortunately, we couldn't catch 277 00:17:07,375 --> 00:17:09,542 any faces of the suspect. 278 00:17:09,667 --> 00:17:11,708 The visual was too far away. 279 00:17:11,833 --> 00:17:13,583 I think we're really close. 280 00:17:13,708 --> 00:17:16,917 So the next thing we figured we needed to do was 281 00:17:17,042 --> 00:17:19,542 an urgent request to Uber and Lyft 282 00:17:19,667 --> 00:17:22,041 to try and figure out if they had someone 283 00:17:22,042 --> 00:17:23,541 who dropped someone off in this cul-de-sac 284 00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:24,875 at this time. 285 00:17:28,917 --> 00:17:30,874 Seven hours in... 286 00:17:32,125 --> 00:17:33,542 Hello? 287 00:17:41,917 --> 00:17:43,167 All right. 288 00:17:49,208 --> 00:17:50,791 I got the residence he was picked up at 289 00:17:50,792 --> 00:17:53,791 which matches back to his family's residence. 290 00:17:53,792 --> 00:17:55,042 So we knew exactly who it was. 291 00:17:59,208 --> 00:18:01,416 I love it. Teamwork. 292 00:18:01,417 --> 00:18:03,833 While detectives head out to begin surveillance 293 00:18:03,958 --> 00:18:06,207 on Justice Lusk's house... 294 00:18:06,208 --> 00:18:09,041 The plan is to get the Uber driver back. 295 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:16,874 At that point, I had a name on who to look at. 296 00:18:16,875 --> 00:18:19,417 So another way to verify that this was Justice Lusk, 297 00:18:19,542 --> 00:18:22,417 put his driver's license photo into a photographic lineup, 298 00:18:22,542 --> 00:18:23,999 because you know, what if someone else 299 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,292 had Justice's phone 300 00:18:25,417 --> 00:18:27,374 and was using his own Uber account? 301 00:18:27,375 --> 00:18:29,000 So I was hoping that he could be 302 00:18:29,125 --> 00:18:31,374 another piece for my puzzle. 303 00:18:31,375 --> 00:18:32,832 OK, bud, how you doing? 304 00:18:32,833 --> 00:18:34,458 Good. 305 00:18:42,583 --> 00:18:45,374 Sergeant Richter shows the driver a map 306 00:18:45,375 --> 00:18:47,917 of the cul-de-sac where the shooting took place. 307 00:18:48,083 --> 00:18:50,375 Do you remember this particular customer? 308 00:18:52,333 --> 00:18:53,791 OK, so what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna show you 309 00:18:53,792 --> 00:18:55,416 a group of six photographs, OK? 310 00:18:55,417 --> 00:18:56,874 Basically, look at the pictures. 311 00:18:56,875 --> 00:18:59,417 If you recognize somebody, tell me which one and why. 312 00:19:28,208 --> 00:19:30,000 He picked it. 313 00:19:30,125 --> 00:19:32,083 He positively identified Justice Lusk 314 00:19:32,208 --> 00:19:34,417 in a photo line-up. 315 00:19:34,542 --> 00:19:36,875 OK, do you want to just circle the number 316 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,833 and initial it? 317 00:19:38,958 --> 00:19:40,667 At that point, I got enough for probable cause 318 00:19:40,833 --> 00:19:42,207 to take warrants on him. 319 00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:46,833 I felt very confident that Justice was the person 320 00:19:46,958 --> 00:19:48,207 who committed all these crimes. 321 00:19:50,708 --> 00:19:52,249 You're gonna have to do a search warrant 322 00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:54,582 at that house. Yeah. 323 00:19:54,583 --> 00:19:56,333 I mean, it would be nice to get him off 324 00:19:56,458 --> 00:19:58,083 the streets tonight. 325 00:19:58,208 --> 00:20:00,374 We had Major Restrepo and Corporal Mellow 326 00:20:00,375 --> 00:20:02,042 getting ready to spin up their SWAT team 327 00:20:02,208 --> 00:20:04,625 and do a search warrant on Lusk's address. 328 00:20:04,750 --> 00:20:06,332 As the team prepares 329 00:20:06,333 --> 00:20:07,792 to hit Justice's house... 330 00:20:11,250 --> 00:20:14,375 There's a call from a neighboring house 331 00:20:14,542 --> 00:20:16,583 around the corner from the incident location. 332 00:20:45,708 --> 00:20:48,583 The officer pulls over the suspicious vehicle. 333 00:20:57,208 --> 00:20:58,416 Yes, sir. 334 00:20:58,417 --> 00:21:00,333 Your suspect's 1095. 335 00:21:00,458 --> 00:21:03,041 They just stopped him. I said, who's in the car? 336 00:21:03,042 --> 00:21:04,707 He says Justice. 337 00:21:04,708 --> 00:21:07,249 So I said, put him in handcuffs. 338 00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:10,333 Man, it was a huge sense of relief. 339 00:21:10,458 --> 00:21:13,416 We couldn't believe that he came back. 340 00:21:13,417 --> 00:21:15,667 You know, looking back, we should have known 341 00:21:15,792 --> 00:21:18,833 that maybe he's gonna come back for this stuff he had hid. 342 00:21:18,958 --> 00:21:21,708 But at the time when you have all this stuff going on 343 00:21:21,833 --> 00:21:23,874 in your head and have so much to do, 344 00:21:23,875 --> 00:21:26,500 the simplest, littlest thing you may just overlook. 345 00:21:26,667 --> 00:21:29,332 - Cheers. - Cheers. Good work. 346 00:21:33,708 --> 00:21:37,332 11 hours into the investigation... 347 00:21:40,542 --> 00:21:42,667 Justice, how you doing? 348 00:21:42,792 --> 00:21:45,875 Our goal is to get him to talk to us 349 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,667 and see if we can figure out why he committed these crimes. 350 00:21:49,792 --> 00:21:53,374 So the reason why they saw your car 351 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:55,916 and came about is some people 352 00:21:55,917 --> 00:21:58,082 saw you walking behind their house. 353 00:22:01,583 --> 00:22:03,833 And what were you looking for back there? 354 00:22:19,042 --> 00:22:20,667 Where's your friend live? 355 00:22:22,583 --> 00:22:23,916 We really took our time. 356 00:22:23,917 --> 00:22:25,208 We didn't wanna go in there right away 357 00:22:25,333 --> 00:22:26,750 and just go at him. 358 00:22:26,875 --> 00:22:28,542 We wanted him to get real comfortable with himself. 359 00:22:28,708 --> 00:22:31,667 We wanted to know how he knows these people, 360 00:22:31,792 --> 00:22:34,874 where he was earlier, where he came from, 361 00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:38,833 and just kind of walk him right into that garage. 362 00:22:38,958 --> 00:22:42,832 You scared some people walking behind their houses. 363 00:22:42,833 --> 00:22:45,875 Why wouldn't you just drive the car around? 364 00:22:57,083 --> 00:22:58,583 Mm-hmm. 365 00:23:05,542 --> 00:23:07,208 Justice claims he was trying 366 00:23:07,333 --> 00:23:09,124 to get to the victim's house, 367 00:23:09,125 --> 00:23:11,833 where he had left a gun several days ago. 368 00:23:11,958 --> 00:23:13,583 What kind of gun is it? 369 00:23:16,625 --> 00:23:18,375 When was the last time you shot a gun? 370 00:23:22,833 --> 00:23:25,707 His vibes were almost, like, relaxed. 371 00:23:25,708 --> 00:23:27,000 Like he didn't really care that he was there. 372 00:23:27,125 --> 00:23:29,750 Why were you going this late to get that stuff? 373 00:23:36,542 --> 00:23:38,541 He was acting like a child the way 374 00:23:38,542 --> 00:23:40,167 he was answering questions, his demeanor. 375 00:23:40,292 --> 00:23:44,416 Like, just--just didn't think he did anything serious. 376 00:23:44,417 --> 00:23:45,875 He was completely calm. 377 00:23:47,458 --> 00:23:49,250 What about this afternoon? 378 00:23:49,375 --> 00:23:50,750 Were you there this afternoon? 379 00:23:54,458 --> 00:23:56,375 How'd you get there today? 380 00:23:57,375 --> 00:23:59,374 Uber? 381 00:23:59,375 --> 00:24:01,542 What happened when you got there? 382 00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:05,582 OK. 383 00:24:05,583 --> 00:24:07,083 But you walk into the garage? 384 00:24:09,458 --> 00:24:12,000 Yeah, you do. 385 00:24:15,708 --> 00:24:18,249 Of course, Loomis and I both know that that's a lie. 386 00:24:18,250 --> 00:24:19,916 At that point, we had enough. 387 00:24:19,917 --> 00:24:23,083 We had let Justice tell us, you know, all the lines of BS. 388 00:24:23,208 --> 00:24:25,416 So at that point, you know, we're showing them 389 00:24:25,417 --> 00:24:27,124 a couple cards that we got in our hands. 390 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,083 You know what's amazing about that cul-de-sac, Justice? 391 00:24:32,208 --> 00:24:35,999 - What? - All the video cameras. 392 00:24:55,375 --> 00:24:56,583 At that point, I was, like, 393 00:24:56,708 --> 00:24:58,208 oh, we got him. You're ours. 394 00:24:58,375 --> 00:25:00,042 His shoulders slumped. He leaned over. 395 00:25:00,208 --> 00:25:02,374 His eyes were going back and forth, trying to think 396 00:25:02,375 --> 00:25:04,375 of the next thing to say. 397 00:25:04,542 --> 00:25:07,957 You get out of the white Toyota Camry Uber, 398 00:25:07,958 --> 00:25:11,957 and you walk into the garage. 399 00:25:11,958 --> 00:25:14,291 And who do you talk to in the garage? 400 00:25:20,917 --> 00:25:22,500 Justice admits he spoke with 401 00:25:22,667 --> 00:25:26,082 the first victim, the man who died at the hospital. 402 00:25:26,083 --> 00:25:28,667 What were y'all arguing about? 403 00:25:33,792 --> 00:25:36,041 I can see how that would be upsetting. 404 00:25:37,708 --> 00:25:39,541 We're just trying to figure out why you left your guns 405 00:25:39,542 --> 00:25:40,667 over there initially. 406 00:25:40,792 --> 00:25:42,875 He was providing information to me. 407 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,582 So as long as he's gonna keep going, 408 00:25:46,583 --> 00:25:51,374 I'll just be polite and see if he responds to that. 409 00:26:11,833 --> 00:26:13,457 He claims the first victim 410 00:26:13,458 --> 00:26:16,541 was carrying a 9-millimeter. 411 00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:17,667 OK. 412 00:26:17,792 --> 00:26:20,832 And did you shoot him because he had a gun? 413 00:26:20,833 --> 00:26:22,542 Or-- 414 00:26:34,542 --> 00:26:35,917 That didn't make any sense. 415 00:26:36,042 --> 00:26:38,332 Justice knew this guy. They had made that arrangement. 416 00:26:38,333 --> 00:26:40,625 I don't know why he assumed that, you know, 417 00:26:40,792 --> 00:26:43,750 the first victim was gonna just come up and shoot him. 418 00:26:43,875 --> 00:26:47,333 Is that the black and silver one in the front yard? 419 00:26:58,125 --> 00:26:59,541 How many times did you shoot him, 420 00:26:59,542 --> 00:27:01,958 the second guy that was in the garage? 421 00:27:05,208 --> 00:27:08,041 He admits shooting the second victim, 422 00:27:08,042 --> 00:27:09,541 Steven Finch. 423 00:27:09,542 --> 00:27:12,250 Which one did you use to shoot them? 424 00:27:13,708 --> 00:27:16,000 So you go in the house? 425 00:27:17,667 --> 00:27:19,874 OK, is that when Bob, the old white dude, 426 00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:21,208 is coming down the steps? 427 00:27:26,083 --> 00:27:28,000 How many times do you shoot him? 428 00:27:31,167 --> 00:27:35,874 It was extremely surprising that he so easily 429 00:27:35,875 --> 00:27:38,874 confessed to shooting all three people in the house. 430 00:27:38,875 --> 00:27:41,583 That rarely happens. 431 00:27:41,708 --> 00:27:43,875 You regret what you did? 432 00:27:49,917 --> 00:27:51,374 He didn't say yes or no, 433 00:27:51,375 --> 00:27:53,833 but he had zero remorse. 434 00:27:53,958 --> 00:27:56,249 It appeared that he did not care 435 00:27:56,250 --> 00:27:58,874 he just took three lives, whatsoever. 436 00:27:58,875 --> 00:28:02,457 All he cared about was getting his stuff back. 437 00:28:13,875 --> 00:28:17,041 12 hours into the investigation... 438 00:28:17,042 --> 00:28:19,083 Turn. Put your hands behind your back. 439 00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:21,000 Justice Lusk is charged with 440 00:28:21,125 --> 00:28:23,541 three counts each of felony murder 441 00:28:23,542 --> 00:28:26,125 and aggravated assault. 442 00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:29,750 After the arrest, it's just the beginning. 443 00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:32,083 The district attorney's office is the ones 444 00:28:32,208 --> 00:28:34,249 who are gonna prosecute the case. 445 00:28:39,208 --> 00:28:41,417 We expected that Justice Lusk's defense 446 00:28:41,542 --> 00:28:43,207 was gonna be self-defense, 447 00:28:43,208 --> 00:28:45,332 and we had to prove that it wasn't. 448 00:28:45,333 --> 00:28:48,000 It was a triple homicide, which is pretty horrifying, 449 00:28:48,125 --> 00:28:51,916 and the facts were quite unusual. 450 00:28:51,917 --> 00:28:55,083 The defendant took an Uber to the house. 451 00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:59,750 This occurred in the afternoon, broad daylight. 452 00:28:59,875 --> 00:29:01,916 Those are things that cause a jury to wonder, 453 00:29:01,917 --> 00:29:03,582 like, well, maybe-- maybe he is innocent. 454 00:29:03,583 --> 00:29:05,207 Maybe this was self-defense 455 00:29:05,208 --> 00:29:07,291 because no one would commit a murder that way. 456 00:29:09,042 --> 00:29:11,207 And with triple homicide, 457 00:29:11,208 --> 00:29:14,416 we have to prove murder three times. 458 00:29:14,417 --> 00:29:18,582 I was assigned as co-chair for the prosecution in this case. 459 00:29:20,042 --> 00:29:21,250 Honestly, when I looked at it, 460 00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:22,542 I didn't know what to make of it. 461 00:29:22,667 --> 00:29:25,041 It's one guy, three other men. 462 00:29:25,042 --> 00:29:27,917 We didn't know how this situation happened. 463 00:29:28,042 --> 00:29:30,041 We knew that we would have to rely 464 00:29:30,042 --> 00:29:31,500 on the Ring camera footage 465 00:29:31,625 --> 00:29:33,082 to map out the timeline from when 466 00:29:33,083 --> 00:29:34,667 the defendant arrived and left. 467 00:29:36,417 --> 00:29:39,708 The first gunshot happened in less than two minutes 468 00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:42,375 after the defendant's arrival. 469 00:29:43,958 --> 00:29:46,250 And then we heard other gunshots throughout. 470 00:29:46,375 --> 00:29:49,833 These three murders were committed within six minutes. 471 00:29:49,958 --> 00:29:53,375 You know, that's a very short period of time. 472 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:57,750 To me, that means he had a motive. 473 00:29:57,875 --> 00:30:00,208 He went directly there to commit those crimes. 474 00:30:00,375 --> 00:30:03,917 And there wasn't much time for anything else. 475 00:30:04,042 --> 00:30:05,833 Unfortunately, it did not show anything 476 00:30:05,958 --> 00:30:09,082 that happened in the garage or inside the house. 477 00:30:09,083 --> 00:30:10,500 And that's the hard part. 478 00:30:10,625 --> 00:30:14,041 That side of the story is left for the defendant. 479 00:30:14,042 --> 00:30:17,541 That puts us at a disadvantage because he could say anything. 480 00:30:17,542 --> 00:30:19,541 And the defense only has to convince 481 00:30:19,542 --> 00:30:22,749 one person of their story, 482 00:30:22,750 --> 00:30:25,374 and we have a hung jury, and we lose. 483 00:30:41,042 --> 00:30:44,125 In regards to self-defense, you have to establish 484 00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:48,082 factually that the shooter, Justice, 485 00:30:48,083 --> 00:30:53,125 had no choice, that he was in fear he would be killed. 486 00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:56,124 I was Justice Lusk's attorney. 487 00:30:57,417 --> 00:30:59,667 Everyone in this country is entitled 488 00:30:59,792 --> 00:31:03,874 to a vigorous ethical defense. 489 00:31:03,875 --> 00:31:06,292 It's not our job to get somebody off, 490 00:31:06,417 --> 00:31:08,957 but it is our job to hold the state 491 00:31:08,958 --> 00:31:11,042 to their burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. 492 00:31:11,167 --> 00:31:12,749 And it's important to me. 493 00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:14,749 He's gotta to know that I'm working 494 00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:17,916 for him and on his behalf. 495 00:31:17,917 --> 00:31:21,207 And in Justice's case, he's saying, 496 00:31:21,208 --> 00:31:24,167 yeah, I shot, but I was defending myself. 497 00:31:26,375 --> 00:31:30,708 Nearly four years after the murders, 498 00:31:30,875 --> 00:31:33,457 the trial begins. 499 00:31:35,375 --> 00:31:38,583 It was crucial for the jury to see the crime scene 500 00:31:38,708 --> 00:31:41,833 to really get the full picture of what happened in that garage 501 00:31:41,958 --> 00:31:43,874 and also in the home. 502 00:31:43,875 --> 00:31:46,500 So we called the crime scene investigator. 503 00:31:46,667 --> 00:31:51,082 She collected evidence via photograph from the scene. 504 00:31:51,083 --> 00:31:55,541 She collected tangible evidence from the yard. 505 00:31:55,542 --> 00:31:57,708 We were trying to show the jury that this crime 506 00:31:57,875 --> 00:32:00,707 was not random, that it was planned 507 00:32:00,708 --> 00:32:02,250 and that it was thought through. 508 00:32:02,375 --> 00:32:04,500 The investigator states seven guns 509 00:32:04,625 --> 00:32:06,249 were recovered in total. 510 00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:10,707 And there's one the defense homes in on. 511 00:32:10,708 --> 00:32:12,083 The bloodied gun found outside 512 00:32:12,208 --> 00:32:14,541 was the crux of his case. 513 00:32:14,542 --> 00:32:16,874 Because there was a round chambered inside of it, 514 00:32:16,875 --> 00:32:19,500 and there was blood located on the side of the weapon, 515 00:32:19,625 --> 00:32:23,000 he tried to argue that it belonged to a victim. 516 00:32:23,167 --> 00:32:26,542 A gun found on scene is relevant, 517 00:32:26,708 --> 00:32:29,667 especially if it's not the alleged perpetrator's gun, 518 00:32:29,792 --> 00:32:33,874 because that implies that the people in that household 519 00:32:33,875 --> 00:32:36,417 or who were there at the time were armed. 520 00:32:36,542 --> 00:32:39,167 With a round in the chamber being loaded, 521 00:32:39,333 --> 00:32:43,000 that's obviously a clear, present threat to Justice. 522 00:32:43,167 --> 00:32:46,833 There is some argument for it belonging to a victim. 523 00:32:46,958 --> 00:32:50,291 But where the gun was located in the yard, 524 00:32:50,292 --> 00:32:52,375 no victim ever walks in that direction. 525 00:32:52,542 --> 00:32:54,250 So when you look on the Ring cameras 526 00:32:54,375 --> 00:32:57,291 from when Justice Lusk arrives to when he leaves, 527 00:32:57,292 --> 00:33:00,416 he's the only person that ever walks in that direction. 528 00:33:00,417 --> 00:33:02,375 And that is only their statement 529 00:33:02,542 --> 00:33:05,541 that that gun belonged to one of our victims. 530 00:33:05,542 --> 00:33:07,791 There was is no evidence that it did. 531 00:33:11,125 --> 00:33:14,207 The state calls its final witness. 532 00:33:14,208 --> 00:33:18,875 The medical examiner's testimony and the autopsies 533 00:33:19,042 --> 00:33:21,541 completely contradict Justice Lusk's position 534 00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:24,707 that he was facing some type of imminent threat. 535 00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:29,542 So with victim one, 536 00:33:29,667 --> 00:33:34,249 there were six gunshot wounds or grazes. 537 00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:36,249 The positioning of the grazes are interesting 538 00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:39,042 because his graze is across the chest. 539 00:33:39,208 --> 00:33:43,333 And what Dr. Terry said was that it looks like that graze 540 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:46,000 was connected to the entry wound from his shoulder, 541 00:33:46,125 --> 00:33:49,166 meaning that he was shot several times 542 00:33:49,167 --> 00:33:52,249 while being in a lower position. 543 00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:56,167 Mr. Steven Finch, in the way Steven was found, 544 00:33:56,333 --> 00:33:58,082 it looked like he was sitting in a chair. 545 00:33:58,083 --> 00:34:00,167 And then he gets shot in the knee. 546 00:34:00,333 --> 00:34:02,666 He falls over right in that doorway, 547 00:34:02,667 --> 00:34:05,916 and then Justice Lusk actually walks over him 548 00:34:05,917 --> 00:34:07,750 and shoots him in the head. 549 00:34:07,875 --> 00:34:09,833 He was shot in the back of his head, 550 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,250 facing away from the shooter. 551 00:34:12,375 --> 00:34:15,000 That, to me, is indicative that he was not 552 00:34:15,167 --> 00:34:17,374 being aggressive towards him. 553 00:34:17,375 --> 00:34:19,167 Of course the state is gonna argue 554 00:34:19,292 --> 00:34:22,457 that that person was turning away. 555 00:34:22,458 --> 00:34:24,957 But the counterargument is still there that that person 556 00:34:24,958 --> 00:34:26,707 still may have been armed. 557 00:34:26,708 --> 00:34:30,375 Still doesn't mean that a split second prior 558 00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:33,167 to being shot, they didn't pose a threat or danger 559 00:34:33,333 --> 00:34:35,374 to the person who shot them. 560 00:34:35,375 --> 00:34:36,833 And during cross, 561 00:34:36,958 --> 00:34:40,875 the defense focuses on another detail in the ME's report. 562 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,167 All three of the decedent's cases, 563 00:34:44,292 --> 00:34:47,583 they all had either cocaine, cocaine metabolites, 564 00:34:47,708 --> 00:34:51,082 THC, or amphetamines, or methamphetamine 565 00:34:51,083 --> 00:34:52,917 in their system. 566 00:34:53,042 --> 00:34:54,750 That could have jacked them up, 567 00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:56,332 made them aggressive. 568 00:34:56,333 --> 00:34:59,041 I think the defense wants to bring this up 569 00:34:59,042 --> 00:35:01,375 because they want to muddy any sympathy 570 00:35:01,542 --> 00:35:05,000 that the jurors could have for the victims. 571 00:35:05,125 --> 00:35:06,667 In the perfect world, 572 00:35:06,792 --> 00:35:08,124 it shouldn't matter 573 00:35:08,125 --> 00:35:10,291 whether they're perfect people or not. 574 00:35:10,292 --> 00:35:13,167 But we know this isn't a perfect world. 575 00:35:13,292 --> 00:35:15,291 What these reports don't show 576 00:35:15,292 --> 00:35:16,999 is when these drugs were ingested. 577 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,874 Could have been days prior. 578 00:35:18,875 --> 00:35:20,458 These are blood screens. 579 00:35:20,583 --> 00:35:24,249 We don't know that those drugs had any effect on them at all. 580 00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:28,082 And if Justice Lusk decided to stay at his own home 581 00:35:28,083 --> 00:35:29,832 and not enter Robert Caverly's home, 582 00:35:29,833 --> 00:35:32,167 this wouldn't have happened. 583 00:35:32,292 --> 00:35:34,250 The prosecution rests, 584 00:35:34,375 --> 00:35:37,958 and the defense calls its sole witness to the stand. 585 00:35:38,083 --> 00:35:40,167 Justice wanted to be heard. 586 00:35:40,292 --> 00:35:43,124 I said, and you've got a story to tell. 587 00:35:43,125 --> 00:35:46,000 They need to hear how frightened you were, 588 00:35:46,125 --> 00:35:49,249 that you thought it was your life at stake. 589 00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:51,707 If he did a good job, maybe you'd have one, 590 00:35:51,708 --> 00:35:53,667 maybe two people who would give him 591 00:35:53,833 --> 00:35:55,957 the benefit of the doubt. 592 00:35:55,958 --> 00:35:57,957 We didn't need to convince all 12. 593 00:35:57,958 --> 00:35:59,417 Just one. 594 00:36:13,583 --> 00:36:16,042 Justice wanted to get his story out there. 595 00:36:16,167 --> 00:36:18,000 I said, get up there. 596 00:36:18,167 --> 00:36:20,625 The jury who is deciding your fate 597 00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:22,541 needs to hear from you. 598 00:36:22,542 --> 00:36:26,874 Justice Lusk takes the stand. 599 00:36:26,875 --> 00:36:30,457 Justice went over there to retrieve 600 00:36:30,458 --> 00:36:34,916 his gun that was collateral for purported loan 601 00:36:34,917 --> 00:36:36,457 with decedent number one. 602 00:36:36,458 --> 00:36:40,207 And so he came in contact with decedent number one, 603 00:36:40,208 --> 00:36:42,457 and decedent number two was close by. 604 00:36:42,458 --> 00:36:44,458 He felt threatened by both of them. 605 00:36:46,333 --> 00:36:50,958 So he did what he felt justified that he had to do, 606 00:36:51,083 --> 00:36:54,082 because he felt his life was in jeopardy. 607 00:36:56,125 --> 00:36:59,333 His thought process was to go in the house 608 00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:02,417 and retrieve what he felt was his property 609 00:37:02,542 --> 00:37:05,458 when he encountered decedent number three. 610 00:37:05,583 --> 00:37:08,874 And again, same situation. 611 00:37:08,875 --> 00:37:11,000 He shot his way through the house 612 00:37:11,125 --> 00:37:13,625 and then tried to assert that Robert Caverly 613 00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:16,082 was the aggressor and trying to kill him the entire time, 614 00:37:16,083 --> 00:37:17,916 which was absolutely ridiculous. 615 00:37:20,208 --> 00:37:22,208 You crossed paths with Bob, 616 00:37:22,375 --> 00:37:25,250 and you're going upstairs. He's coming downstairs. 617 00:37:25,375 --> 00:37:27,207 He then goes into garage, 618 00:37:27,208 --> 00:37:29,667 finds one dead body, a pool of blood 619 00:37:29,792 --> 00:37:32,582 where the other victim had been. 620 00:37:32,583 --> 00:37:35,792 Instead of running and getting out of there, 621 00:37:35,958 --> 00:37:39,250 he's gonna pick up the gun and come in after you? 622 00:37:39,375 --> 00:37:41,042 You manage to kill him, 623 00:37:41,167 --> 00:37:43,208 and then you stop to pick up the gun 624 00:37:43,375 --> 00:37:46,042 and run outside and drop it. 625 00:37:46,167 --> 00:37:50,457 That's a very convoluted story and just defies common sense. 626 00:37:50,458 --> 00:37:52,375 He wasn't there to burglarize. 627 00:37:52,542 --> 00:37:54,333 He was there to get his property back, 628 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,125 and he defended himself. 629 00:37:57,250 --> 00:37:58,582 The defendant argued 630 00:37:58,583 --> 00:38:01,582 that he was justified to use self-defense 631 00:38:01,583 --> 00:38:03,541 on three different occasions 632 00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:06,375 as he entered someone's home unlawfully. 633 00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:09,749 Sims begins her cross-examination. 634 00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:11,000 I just knew I need to 635 00:38:11,167 --> 00:38:12,750 hammer him with the lies, 636 00:38:12,875 --> 00:38:15,375 let the jury see that he's not credible. 637 00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:17,417 On the stand, he said the gun was 638 00:38:17,542 --> 00:38:20,832 pulled out and pointed at him, which would be a threat. 639 00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:23,250 That's not what he originally told the police. 640 00:38:27,875 --> 00:38:31,542 And I had to correct him and say you felt threatened. 641 00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:34,333 So he cleaned up for trial, 642 00:38:34,458 --> 00:38:37,000 how he could lay the proper grounds 643 00:38:37,167 --> 00:38:39,999 for a self-defense argument. 644 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,916 You tie that in with the fact that the defendant 645 00:38:42,917 --> 00:38:44,792 himself had no injuries. 646 00:38:44,917 --> 00:38:48,707 He even admitted that he was never actually shot at. 647 00:38:48,708 --> 00:38:52,542 So you want us to believe that the victim had this gun 648 00:38:52,667 --> 00:38:55,707 pointed at you and that you were able 649 00:38:55,708 --> 00:38:58,417 to get your gun out and fire off five rounds 650 00:38:58,542 --> 00:39:02,999 at our victim, and he never fired back at you? 651 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000 So when you felt threatened, why didn't you leave? 652 00:39:06,125 --> 00:39:10,791 And he answered, because I came here to get my guns. 653 00:39:10,792 --> 00:39:12,917 OK, so now that you've had to kill someone, 654 00:39:13,042 --> 00:39:14,541 why didn't you leave? 655 00:39:14,542 --> 00:39:16,749 And he's responding, I was there for my guns. 656 00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:19,707 I'm going to leave with my guns. 657 00:39:19,708 --> 00:39:21,291 We wanted to make it clear 658 00:39:21,292 --> 00:39:23,000 that nothing was gonna stop you. 659 00:39:23,167 --> 00:39:25,249 No matter what you had to do, 660 00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:27,832 you were there to get your gun. 661 00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:32,791 It shows something different about his nature and who he is. 662 00:39:35,708 --> 00:39:39,500 The jury leaves to deliberate. 663 00:39:39,667 --> 00:39:41,958 Waiting for the verdict is almost 664 00:39:42,125 --> 00:39:44,541 the worst part of the trial. 665 00:39:44,542 --> 00:39:47,082 You have no idea what they're thinking. 666 00:39:49,667 --> 00:39:52,457 For families, I think it's even more difficult, 667 00:39:52,458 --> 00:39:54,291 especially when hearing the evidence, 668 00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:55,666 and they feel like it's clear. 669 00:39:57,375 --> 00:39:59,499 Later that afternoon... 670 00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:01,332 The only part that's worse 671 00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:03,375 than waiting for them to come back is 672 00:40:03,542 --> 00:40:05,749 when they actually tell us, we have a verdict. 673 00:40:08,083 --> 00:40:10,707 You don't want to be the one responsible 674 00:40:10,708 --> 00:40:12,832 for letting a murderer go. 675 00:40:15,708 --> 00:40:17,250 The defendant was found guilty 676 00:40:17,375 --> 00:40:19,333 on all counts. 677 00:40:30,875 --> 00:40:35,208 I think this case is a great example of the system working. 678 00:40:35,333 --> 00:40:36,458 He was given a fair trial. 679 00:40:36,625 --> 00:40:38,499 He was given a fantastic defense attorney. 680 00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:39,917 He was able to tell his story. 681 00:40:40,042 --> 00:40:43,125 And, ultimately, a jury of his peers made the decision, 682 00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:45,333 and the judge enforced it. 683 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:47,874 The families were extremely relieved, 684 00:40:47,875 --> 00:40:52,708 but there was still so much unresolved 685 00:40:52,875 --> 00:40:57,333 because they never did hear why. 686 00:40:59,750 --> 00:41:02,917 I've tried to set expectations with them 687 00:41:03,042 --> 00:41:06,625 to understand, nothing about this process 688 00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:10,249 is going to bring your loved one back. 689 00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:12,750 You still lost this person. 690 00:41:12,875 --> 00:41:17,500 Speak to a therapist, lean on your loved ones. 691 00:41:17,667 --> 00:41:21,708 Don't let the court process be your only source of healing. 692 00:41:25,875 --> 00:41:28,707 Steven was my younger brother. 693 00:41:28,708 --> 00:41:32,874 Every moment of our life growing up was spent together. 694 00:41:32,875 --> 00:41:35,749 I have my good days and my bad days 695 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:37,833 when it comes to dealing with it. 696 00:41:46,208 --> 00:41:47,792 - Come in. - Yes, ma'am. 697 00:41:47,958 --> 00:41:49,374 Sharing their grief... 698 00:41:49,375 --> 00:41:51,208 Jessica, may I give you a hug? 699 00:41:51,375 --> 00:41:53,458 Steven's sister Jessica 700 00:41:53,583 --> 00:41:56,582 and Bob's mother, Mary, have become friends. 701 00:41:56,583 --> 00:41:59,417 We have something that binds us together now. 702 00:41:59,542 --> 00:42:02,332 Yes, ma'am. They were special people. 703 00:42:02,333 --> 00:42:03,583 Yes. 704 00:42:03,708 --> 00:42:06,208 We learned after Steven passed, 705 00:42:06,375 --> 00:42:08,749 there was a guy at his funeral, 706 00:42:08,750 --> 00:42:11,000 and he said that my brother had found him 707 00:42:11,125 --> 00:42:14,749 sleeping up under a bridge, and it was cold. 708 00:42:14,750 --> 00:42:15,917 And Steven said, come on, 709 00:42:16,042 --> 00:42:17,791 you're gonna go home with me tonight. 710 00:42:17,792 --> 00:42:20,083 And Steven gave him a place to stay for the night. 711 00:42:20,250 --> 00:42:21,707 So they were a lot alike. 712 00:42:21,708 --> 00:42:23,916 Yes. 713 00:42:23,917 --> 00:42:26,750 I just can't even begin to put into words 714 00:42:26,875 --> 00:42:30,167 how much life has changed. 715 00:42:31,417 --> 00:42:33,042 It changes you forever.